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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[01:00] You are listening to A Psychic's Story, a podcast that shares behind-the-scenes insights of people who lead supernatural lives among the ordinary. And I'm your host, Nichole Bigley. Join me every Wednesday as I dispel the myths behind magic and lore. Welcome to A Psychic's Story. Mysticism to mystify. Hi, psychic listeners. Today's guest is someone whose work bridges intuitive connection, energy healing, and the powerful role of sound as a pathway for transformation. She is a certified Angel Intuitive Medium Teacher, Energy Worker and Sound Healer, who has worked with people all over the world, helping them connect with spirit and awaken their own intuitive gifts. What makes her work unique is how she weaves together multiple modalities including angelic connection, reiki and sound frequency into an integrative healing experience. Before stepping fully into this work, she spent years as a special education and emotional support teacher, bringing a grounded human-centered understanding into everything she does today. Through her work, she supports others in reconnecting with themselves, understanding energy on a deeper level, and stepping into their own awareness and healing. This is the story of Katie Haegele. Welcome to A Psychic's Story, Katie.

Speaker 5:
[02:29] Hi, Nichole. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2:
[02:31] Yes. I feel like I know you through Natalie and Courtney.

Speaker 5:
[02:35] Courtney, I feel the same about you.

Speaker 2:
[02:38] Yeah. We've got connected a little bit offline and everything. When you hear the word psychic, what does it mean to you?

Speaker 5:
[02:47] To me, it means having a tuning fork inside of my body that allows me to pick up on vibrations and other things that maybe other people are not as finely tuned to.

Speaker 2:
[03:01] That's a beautiful example. I never really thought about it like that, but it's true. Do you consider yourself psychic? How does that show up in your work in everyday life?

Speaker 5:
[03:09] I do consider myself psychic. I say all the time that every medium is a psychic. Everyone that has the ability to connect into energy is a psychic. For me, it's so interwoven into who I am, and with hindsight, I've been able to make so many more connections over the years. But it is who I am, so there's no separation for me as to, oh, this is my psychic life and this is my normal life.

Speaker 2:
[03:38] We do try to, at least for a while, and I'm sure you've heard me say on the podcast, I tried to separate it, and that is when, at least for me, it can't speak for everybody else, but when there was a huge disconnect in my life, and my guides and you were like, no, girlfriend, you need to return back to this for sure.

Speaker 5:
[03:55] Absolutely, and for me, it took an actual physical injury for that to happen, like a literal, it was a literal push. So when I was teaching, I got injured by a student. What happened was it is one of those life-changing events that you don't realize, like how much you are attached to what your identity is, you know, for a certain time in your life. And for me, it was this moment when everything that I thought I was going to do disintegrated. When people talk about like Dark Night of the Soul, there are many, many, many years for me of pain, like actual physical pain that pulled me into that. But that pain was actually my portal, my portal back to myself, my portal back to who I am. I can be so grateful now that that happened and that I have tools now to manage the physical part of things that I still deal with from that, but also to be fully in alignment with what I came here to do into this life, to do.

Speaker 2:
[04:59] Yes, pain is a portal. And how long did that take you from the initial injury and then that awakening or that Dark Night of the Soul?

Speaker 5:
[05:08] I mean, it was long and drawn out because I'm very stubborn. So for me, it was, I'm going to push through this, I'm going to do this. And my body was like, nope, you're not going to do this. So it was this physical thing that happened to me that was like, okay, you need to slow down. We're going to make you slow down because it's time for you to get back to who you are. It was about six years of me trying to navigate the pain. And that's what led me to Reiki. And I literally, I had exhausted every other thing that Western medicine had to offer at that point. And I was so beaten down, I was so exhausted. And I was still learning. I was like, let me read. I have time now. Let me read everything that I can. And the first book that I ever read after that Reiki session was Louise Hay, You Can Heal Your Life.

Speaker 2:
[06:00] And it's an awesome book.

Speaker 5:
[06:02] It is. It made me really angry because I was still in this phase that, picking her up for the first time and reading, your physical pain is connected to something energetic. So I was still in that space where I was taking that personally. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[06:21] And sometimes people can take it as like this, you're telling me I'm the problem.

Speaker 5:
[06:25] Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[06:26] And then it's my fault. And the key to my healing is me and I'm the one blocking it. And that can be a cycle that we go through.

Speaker 5:
[06:34] It is a cycle. Absolutely it is. But for me, that Reiki session, I walked, it was a friend that I used to teach with and she's still my friend today. She said, I know this woman and she does Reiki. And I hadn't even heard of it. This was in like the end of 2009. And I said, well, I've done everything else. I might as well try it because that's where I was.

Speaker 2:
[06:58] Well, yeah, what else is going to happen? It'll either help me or it won't, yeah.

Speaker 5:
[07:02] Or it can't hurt me. So I walked into that room and this person who was also still a very good friend of mine looks right in my face. She said, oh, you're a medium. And I was like, no, I'm sorry. I'm not a medium. Absolutely not. Sometimes I know things, but no, no, no, no. You really are. And I was like, I don't think so. And she just smiled at me and she said, okay. And we did the Reiki session. And after that session, every single thing that I had blocked out from my entire life previously opened back up. I mean, everything all at once. It was for me, my background because I was raised Catholic. I went through literally 16 years of Catholic school all the way after college. So that is a very indoctrinated- Very Catholic. They have very strong beliefs about these types of energy things. So I had a lot of fear around it for a long time. But that being said, it's also one of the greatest gifts, that religious information because angels were my gateway. Angels were safe to me.

Speaker 2:
[08:10] I say that all the time. Angels are the way into it. It feels safe.

Speaker 5:
[08:15] It does. And over the years, they've always been there. But when I learned how to recognize them and then started intentionally interacting with them and learning about them, it was like this whole other world opened up to me. And from that point on, it's just been like, boom, boom, boom. Let's open all the things up. Let's make it stronger and stronger. And for me, I have all of the Claire's. So I can get information through knowing, seeing, feeling, touching, smelling, sometimes even tasting. And that has continued to get stronger and stronger because I show up and say, okay, what do I need today? What do I need to learn today? What can you teach me today? So that really, the teaching theme has really interwoven itself in my entire life. And I know that like my soul imprint, I know that I'm a teacher. Like I know that that's part of my soul. So my identity was linked into that out-knowing the soul piece of it. So now I get to teach in so many different ways, and it's so much more than I could have ever, really ever dreamed of.

Speaker 2:
[09:24] Yeah. So many things I want to ask you, but I don't want to forget this part when you said like the soul imprint because that's different than some of the language that I've heard other people share. And I think that helps people maybe connect with it more. And that our identities, as you mentioned, are so, at least from my perspective, driven so much about like the titles we give ourselves. I have that teacher and what does that teacher look like? Or am I a sister, am I a mother, a friend? Like those sort of titles that come through our daily lives. And to me, that's like the ego trying to hold on to make sense of reality and the world that we're in. And then from a soul perspective, like what lights you up? What is an alignment with your higher self and your soul? What is your quote unquote purpose? Not because it's an end destination or something you have to do, but it's really how you live your life and how you show up. And that's very different and it's kind of hard to explain sometimes, but when that connects and you're kind of re-remembering that and you're getting back to the heart of who you are, that authentic you, and you're not shy about it and you're starting to step into that, to me, that's when everything really unfolds and lights up in your life.

Speaker 5:
[10:31] Absolutely. And I'm laughing at like the language that you're using because I use like angel cards, you know, and what I do, but I have them all sitting on my desk. Right before we got on, I shuffled and one of the cards fell out of the deck and it was, the card was alignment. Yeah. So here's me saying, okay guys, thank you. Thank you for just this reassurance because even though I know, and I'm sure you're the same, even though you know that this is what you're here for and that you're doing the work that your soul came here to do, it's still great to have validation because we're human. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[11:12] And to also put a finer point on that too, so when Katie and I are talking about really more of that soul imprint, what I think about it is our soul essence, like who we innately are and we can't get away from it. It's like you can't disconnect yourself from that. And that teacher, as you mentioned, could be the teacher that you were earlier on in your career, and now it's enabling you or allowing you to fill a role and in those responsibilities in a different capacity in a different way. And it's been my experience that people that, so for example, I was a communicator, or I said when I went to school, what am I going to do with my life? Well, I talk to spirit, so I guess I'll learn how to communicate with humans. And I went into communications in PR. Well, that was kind of like an offshoot or a parallel path to it, but it is about communication. So in my mind, I'm a communicator, I'm also a healer at heart. So whatever I do and whatever capacity is going to have that as who I am and how I show up. I've been thinking a lot more lately about life themes and patterns, the ones we find ourselves in and want to make more sense of. And I came across something recently that I spent some time with before bringing it here, because I'm very intentional about what I share with you all. It's Cosmitra, and it's a Vedic astrology tool where you enter your birth details and receive an in-depth map of your life patterns and timing, along with guidance based on your chart. What stood out to me right away is that it wasn't generic. It helped me make sense of real experiences, different phases of my life, and things that either felt aligned or didn't. When I first entered my information, I was surprised. I've always been told I'm a Pisces sun, Aries moon, Aries rising, but Cosmitra showed me that I'm an Aquarius sun, Aries moon, and Cancer rising. When I asked the team at Cosmitra what was up, they said that the Vedic system is more ancient, tracking the current positions of constellations, whereas Western astrology is based on seasons and our relationship to the sun. I love learning about other systems and even testing their accuracy. There's also a life review feature where you can look back at different chapters of your life and seeing how those timelines lined up is what made it click for me. Cosmitra is not about predicting your life or telling you what to do. It helps you understand the energy you're working with so that you can trust your intuition more. If this sounds interesting to you and you're curious to learn more about yourself and your life, go to cosmitra.com to generate your Cosmic Blueprint and use code Psychic20 for 20% off. That's cosmitra.com and Psychic20 for 20% off. For those that aren't familiar with Reiki, and I don't think we really, we may have a little bit, but talked about this. For you, for that first Reiki session, you said a lot of things cleared. How do you describe, if somebody hasn't had a session before, what Reiki is like? What people may experience going through it?

Speaker 5:
[14:21] So, it's funny because even Reiki has shifted for me, and Reiki is life force energy. It is source energy. It's what we're made of. It's what the stars are made of. It's what everything is made of. My elevator speech to people is, it's the force in Star Wars, because that's a reference that everyone understands. You see that lighting up of people. During a session, everybody's different. In my experience, I always get messages for people during Reiki sessions. So, again, it's not separate for me. You may feel warmth in your body. You may feel tingling in your body. You may actually feel energy moving through. You may see colors. Sometimes people describe it as a lava lamp. You know, your eyes are closed and you see these colors moving like a lava lamp. And really, it's a profound sense of relaxation. It's a peacefulness that comes over your body. And it really, in my experience, people have reported back, like, it lasts and it continues, you know? And it makes it easier for them to also reconnect to themselves. And every practitioner brings something different to that. And right now, we talked about Courtney and her and I are developing, it's called Reiki Beyond the Matrix. And what we're doing is using quantum, it's quantum, we're getting this information, these downloads. And we're using the quantum fields and pulling in Reiki from that. And that's like a whole other ballgame.

Speaker 2:
[15:51] Yeah, yeah. No, when I first started with Reiki, it was, I won't repeat the story because I've shared it enough on the podcast, but since she was my cat, she needed healing. And I was hopefully optimistic or skeptically optimistic that it would work. But once I experienced her shifts and her healing, I was like, I got to learn more about this. And but at the time, not everyone, it's not like now where if you say Reiki, at least somebody, if they haven't had a session, they've somewhat maybe heard of it, you know? But at the time, I said Reiki is like a massage for the soul without the touch or like acupuncture, but without the needles. And you use life force. I say it's life force, it's life source energy, it's sentient. It's cool to hear that you and Courtney are working it into the quantum because my guides and angels have been saying for several months now, it's no longer about Reiki, Reiki itself alone, is it can't be the thing. Humans are changing at such a fast pace. Humanity and the collective are changing that like the old way of doing things, while it's still great and it works, people need to be able to adopt it into different modalities to work with the current state of human consciousness and the collective energy and we're going to get into that with Angelic codes and frequencies and even some wheels, I believe. Yes, we are. Yeah, but I don't want to get too far down that path just yet. So as far as energy healing and multi-modality work that you do, you describe a like route to rise, so using air quotes on that, like a whole person approach, what does that mean in practice?

Speaker 5:
[17:17] So for me, and I credit Natalie with this and reading my chart for me, I have always been a very grounded person. I never understood why even in like that midst of pain for me, where I was like nothing else, there was still this little voice in the very beginning that said, there's more, there's something more to this. This isn't for nothing, there's more. That's what kept me going and what allowed me to stay grounded in my body even though I was in so much pain. So for me, I'm able to actually ground the energy in, in a way that I can translate it for people. So I can translate Reiki energy, I can translate words and messages for people. I do, I have my 500-hour yoga teaching certification. So Reiki during yoga. Again, for me, it's just not separate. In sessions, any session with me, you're getting Reiki, you're getting messages, you're getting energy work. I might give you yoga poses to do. Because what I do is I can stay grounded and connected and also show people what that looks like. I think of myself as an example. Like this is what an embodied energy looks like. You can be in your body and still be connected. And it's really interesting and that's something, it took me a long time to actually accept fully that piece of it for me. It's been people over the years saying like, you make me feel safe. You're so grounded. You can say things in a way that makes sense to me. You can give practical examples. So again, it's the teacher, it's the medium, it's the psychic, it's all of those things together. So when you're grounded in your body, you're able to rise more into your spirit. And I think that what my goal is, part of what I think I'm here to do is to be an example of what that looks like. Because people learn by looking.

Speaker 2:
[19:05] Yeah, so the root is the grounded part of it. And then the rise is whatever that experiences, okay, that connection. And I've talked about this before, and it took me some time to fully understand this too. I mean, a lot of spirituality will talk about how it's important to ground, clear and protect. And having that be in your spiritual hygiene or your spiritual practice, whatever that looks like to you. And I was like, okay, cool grounded. And I always felt like grounded was something, I wanna say separate, but like you just had to do. But the realization finally dawned on me at some point during the spiritual growth and journey that really because we're these physical beings, and we also have this human experience, that we can experience all of the levels, the mental, the emotional, the physical and the spiritual. And when we're grounded, i.e. in our body from that awareness, we have a unique ability unlike some other beings and or other experiences to also co-create with source and whatever that co-creation is, if it's healing and or manifestation and all of that. So I just wanted to kind of paraphrase that, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, but that is really what you're meaning is is helping people understand how do you remain grounded and at the same time operate in this physical environment and understand all the different levels or energetic levels.

Speaker 5:
[20:24] Yes, be a walking portal.

Speaker 2:
[20:28] OK, so what have you found people are most in need of right now when it comes to healing and support?

Speaker 5:
[20:35] Oh, my gosh, that's a great question. There's just so much. You know, I think that there's so much grief in the world right now. And I'm not just talking about grief from like losing people, from people passing away. You know, there's grief for ways of life. There's grief over, you know, how things look differently than maybe people thought they would look. And it really shows up in people's bodies in a different way now. And I think it's because of the shifting that's happening collectively. These things are coming up. They're surfacing, except not everyone has the tools to know how to work with that. So a lot of what I'm seeing right now is, you know, people who are working in grief and their intuition is coming online full force, and they don't know what to do with it because of this movement. So that has been a theme, I would say, probably for the last year.

Speaker 2:
[21:30] Yes. And the more and more people that continue to be awake and they're like, all right, what do I do with this? But then also things come to the surface. We need to process and or heal it, start to understand it a little bit more in order to move forward and all of that. So a part of your work is sound healing. And for someone who's never experienced that, what is sound healing at its core?

Speaker 5:
[21:52] So sound healing works with vibration to move energy in your body. So the visual that I give people is imagine yourself as a glass of water on top of a speaker. As the sound comes through the speaker, the water in the glass moves. Your body is made of water. So any kind of sound, it doesn't have to be intentional sound. Any kind of sound that we experience affects our body. So with sound healing, it's very intentional. For me, it is very intentional. You know, like this is I'm calling in the angels, I'm calling in, you know, whatever beings, light beings, whoever is there as support during sound healing sessions, so that people can have that full experience of allowing the energy to vibrate gently. So like you said, Reiki is a massage without the touch. I say the same thing about sound healing. It's like a massage for your insides.

Speaker 2:
[22:42] Yeah, and one of the things that just blew my mind, I'm sure you can probably attest to this too, I get information, I'm like, whoa, that just is crazy to me, but I believe it, because it comes either from God Universe or from my guides and angels. And one of the things they said to me probably about four, five years ago was that sound is the only thing, like being in the 3D, okay? Sound is the only thing that can permeate and move through that physical space. Light can't even, so light can get blocked and all of that. So sound at its core, when we're thinking about, again, being these human, or sorry, spiritual beings having this human experience, that's why it is so powerful from a healing perspective, whether that's the spoken word or literal sound. One of the things, I always get confused, so what is the difference between vibration and frequency then?

Speaker 5:
[23:32] So vibration is how quickly something moves, and the frequency is the pitch.

Speaker 2:
[23:37] Okay. Because I always say vibration and frequency, because I never want to leave it out.

Speaker 5:
[23:42] I mean, I tend to use them interchangeably because they are so close together. But what my guides and Angel is, especially again, it's really been in the past year, they keep saying to me, music is the bridge, sound is the bridge, it's the bridge between here and there, it's the bridge, it's the bridge. So I say to people, music and sound is one of the most powerful tools that we have in the 3D.

Speaker 2:
[24:04] I mean, that's what the ancients did when they were moving things and buildings and, yeah.

Speaker 5:
[24:08] So we're getting, it's this ancient, the return of the ancient knowledge is coming. You can listen, you can look up songs in different keys because your chakras are tuned to specific notes. So you can, if you're like, oh, you know, like I want to move some energy out of my heart chakra today, you can look up a song that's in the key of F, listen to that song and that key, that vibration will start to move the energy in your body. So these are things that you can do every single day intentionally to use sound more.

Speaker 2:
[24:40] You just gave me a good idea. Okay. I'm going to put a pin in that. I'm asking my guides and angels to remind me later.

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Speaker 2:
[25:26] All right, so before we move forward and some of these other questions too, that I have about body and energy field and people receiving sound, one of the other things I wanted to clarify, so we have vibration, frequency, sound is created by both. What about codes? Because you hear a lot of people in the spiritual community like throwing it around, like codes and light codes and all that, but it is a very real thing.

Speaker 5:
[25:49] Yes, it is.

Speaker 2:
[25:50] So what are codes?

Speaker 5:
[25:52] So for me, how I see codes, they're part of our DNA. So we come into our physical bodies, when we choose to come into a body, with everything that we need, and that includes the coding that's in our DNA. What I've been seeing is that there's layers of protection that were put around certain parts of these codes until we were ready. I think it's one of those things. Everyone who is incarnated on this planet right now is here right now for a reason. We all carry these codes. We also have free will. We have the choice of how we're going to work with that or not. For me, the codes are when something, I can feel them when they light up in my body. I can feel it as vibration, but it's like something coming online. It feels like an expansion of something actually inside of my body that then extends out into my energy field. It's a process. There are lots of different ways that people are downloading codes. Downloading, like all of a sudden, I have this information that's in my head, and it feels really familiar, but I'm not sure why it feels so familiar. That's another example of what opening a code, looking at a code can look like for people. It comes in in lots of different ways, sound, light. It could even be in a conversation with someone. We're all connected.

Speaker 2:
[27:21] It's like a password.

Speaker 5:
[27:22] Yeah, really. I'll often see people's energy fields as like mandalas and on the outside. When codes are downloading or codes are opening up in them, that shifts and it becomes more intricate, almost like a kaleidoscope. Then all of a sudden, they can plug more into the quantum. They can plug in more into that alive field, where it's the Akashic records, however you want to say that. But I think that that is our ability in a human body to access greater and greater information about who we really are.

Speaker 2:
[27:55] Thank you for sharing that. That's cool about the kaleidoscope thing, because we've had people write into the podcast saying where they may have had dreams or they had these knowings or they're in a meditation where literally codes or they'll say it's hieroglyphic or an ancient language that they can't distinguish and it's like being written on them almost like tattoos or the Matrix, the movie where they'll see things. The way I've also described it is think of it like when you're in the physical and you're in this 3D form, you need physical DNA, i.e. that human DNA that we have it, but there's a mirror to that, which is what my guides and angels call our spiritual DNA. When we leave, i.e. our soul exits our physical body and we're no longer in this avatar, we take with us that coding or that DNA. The physical part of the DNA may expire, but that soul essence and or what makes us up as that light being is really what impacts us.

Speaker 5:
[28:51] Solular DNA.

Speaker 2:
[28:52] Yes. Did you say soul? Solular?

Speaker 5:
[28:55] Solular, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[28:56] Okay. Another term that I'm learning here.

Speaker 5:
[28:58] That's a Courtney word, but her and I use that term a lot.

Speaker 2:
[29:01] So I'm going to have to practice saying it. Solular. Okay.

Speaker 5:
[29:03] Solular, yes.

Speaker 2:
[29:04] I like that. Okay. So what is actually happening in the body, meaning the energetic body? So I like to look at it as the mental, the physical, the emotional, and then the spiritual when somebody is receiving sound.

Speaker 5:
[29:16] So again, for me, how I perceive it is their energy field starts to, it moves slowly at first and it almost looks wavy. And for me, I do a lot of layered sounds at the same time. And so it'll hit a couple different chakras all at once because they really are all connected. Nothing's actually separate. So their field starts to become wavy. And then as the session goes on, their field speeds up. And as the field speeds up, it almost looks like little corkscrews. They create this little vacuum that goes from the outside in. And because the frequency and my intention is so specific, anything that does not match that frequency then spins out of their field. It's very interesting to see. And people, some people cry, some people fall asleep, some people are like very wired, some people have like experiences where they're like feeling their loved ones on the other side. Some people, and I do it as a group. So this isn't even one-on-one. So I'm in a room with 15 people and everyone's having their own unique experience with the sound based on what it is they need in that moment.

Speaker 2:
[30:28] I'll have to redraw this ancient symbol that I had downloaded to me about 20 years ago. And I honestly forgot.

Speaker 5:
[30:35] Until just now.

Speaker 2:
[30:36] No, no, until about maybe two weeks ago, I was in my basement. It's a whole long story, but the short of it is, I was down in my basement. I heard my intuition or my guides angels go down the basement. And I did, I'm like, why am I down here? I was looking for something. I'm like, it's not in the basement. Find this box, open the box. I'm like, okay, great. I found this book I had written about 20 years ago. And I was like, oh, I forgot about this book. So I needed to dust that off. But inside like an envelope, which I thought I had lost, right when I was, after I was attuned to Reiki, I had a lot of these symbols download. I didn't know what any of them meant. Some of them I didn't write down, others I did. And I thought and I looked, I was like, oh yeah, that symbol. And what you're describing was like the corked screws and everything seems a little bit like that. So I'll have to redraw it and text it to you later.

Speaker 5:
[31:19] Yeah, I would love that.

Speaker 2:
[31:20] Yeah, yeah. So, okay. This may be a redundant question, so apologize, we can skip over if not. But we talked about vibration, frequency and then codes. How do you describe what a sound code is? Is it a combination of those things?

Speaker 5:
[31:35] It's a combination of those things, but also sound has different layers. So have you ever heard like a cork singing bowl?

Speaker 2:
[31:42] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[31:43] So it gets layered and it's a lot of like different tones that actually overlap each other. So what that does is it creates a really unique signature. And even with singing bowls, they're all different as well, you know, because they're made differently. The people that make them have their energy in them.

Speaker 2:
[32:00] I wanted to get a chalice and it hurt my brain so much that I just gave up. It's like, which one do I want to get? Yeah. Uh-huh.

Speaker 5:
[32:10] So a sound code is, it's like a key. It's this overlapping frequency, vibration, notes, these different levels of them. I think the best way to describe it, you know, like when you have a key for the hotel and now they're just like the push things, you don't have the actual key anymore. It's like that. It creates like a little pass key, just like that. You know, so all those layers together open the door.

Speaker 2:
[32:35] That's a great explanation. Way to share that. And when you're channeling or working with sound in this way, where is that information coming from?

Speaker 5:
[32:43] So for me, again, I feel like I'm always connected, so it's not that much of a stretch to like kind of put myself in that space. But when I, I always say that I get as much out of sessions as other people do, because it's also working on me. But it's almost like I'm in a trance for a lack of a better way to describe it. I can see how the energy in the room moves and it like dimensionally, there's a lot of like dimensional, interdimensional shifting that happens during a session. So I'm kind of like watching all of that and talking about like being grounded. I actually ground the sound through my body. So what happens is I get really hot. I get really, really hot because it vibrates my field so strongly and my field helps to hold the space in the room.

Speaker 2:
[33:33] I've seen your face get really red.

Speaker 5:
[33:35] Even now, right?

Speaker 2:
[33:36] Yeah. It's the energy. Yeah. For me, I will just say life force, life source because it's no longer just Reiki in my mind, but my hands and I'll get really flushed in my face too. Also, I feel the heat from outside too. So is this something that people can learn to access themselves? And if so, how?

Speaker 5:
[33:56] Yes, absolutely. Everybody has the ability to do all of the things. And I think that people can access it at different levels. I think that it's a great tool. If you're drawn to sound, you have court singing bowls, you have the brass singing bowls, which are the Tibetan ones, there's tuning forks, there's so many different kinds of sound tools that you can get. I also happen to have a five-foot gong in my living room.

Speaker 2:
[34:22] Five feet?

Speaker 5:
[34:24] It's huge. It's sitting in my living room. So that's another whole story.

Speaker 2:
[34:29] Adds to cart.

Speaker 5:
[34:30] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[34:31] Pause the interview. I'm going to go look for a five-foot gong. Just kidding.

Speaker 5:
[34:34] Exactly. So there's so many different levels. If you're drawn to it, I always say like, oh, if somebody says that sounds kind of cool, I wonder what that is like. You don't even have to buy it. There's lots of like metaphysical shops. There's lots of places around that you can go that actually will have those things out. So if you're not sure if you're going to like it or what that looks like, go and try one.

Speaker 2:
[34:57] Yeah. I will also say too, I remember when, sorry, I keep bringing this up, but it's true stories, is that when I was first attuned to Reiki, I started to get really in my head because one, it's one thing to ask the angels and pull the angels in because they automatically, at least for me, started working with me, but they were also pulling in crystals a lot. At that time, I was familiar with crystals, I was studying them, I knew a lot about them, but I thought I had to actually have the crystals in my possession. I was not in a place where I could financially afford. Now, again, at this time, crystals were not what they are now. Now, they're a little bit more expensive or a lot more expensive because people got on to it. But I was like, I don't have all the money to buy all these crystals. And my guide seniors were like, Nichole, dumb dumb. They didn't say dumb dumb. That's just me adding it. They said, you can call in the vibration and the frequency of the crystal. You don't necessarily need to have it in your possession. Now, having something physical makes it a little bit stronger and can help amplify, but you can still through intention. And that's what makes me think about what you're talking about with the sound, too. So if you don't have the money and or you're interested and want to learn more later, maybe you pull in through playlists and everything else. The sound, the frequency, the vibration of these certain things. You can play with bells, gongs, sound bowls or crystal bowls, all of that and then see what starts to work with you. So I just wanted to share that little tip.

Speaker 5:
[36:19] Yeah, that's amazing. I have an excess of crystals as well. Actual physical crystals. But I think of myself as a keeper for crystals. This is like a little side note. If I'm drawn to something, I listen and I get it. And then I'll also be drawn to pass it along. So I say I'm their keeper for a little while, and then they go to where they're meant to be.

Speaker 2:
[36:39] I'm kind of a hoarder of them. That's nice of you. I feel like they're my children, and I just don't want to give them up. Although I do have some that I'm like, okay, you are meant to go to someone else, but I haven't quite gotten to where you are with that yet.

Speaker 5:
[36:54] My favorite is Labradorite. I could literally probably do an entire room in my house just with Labradorite. I would say my soul is made of Labradorite.

Speaker 2:
[37:03] I'm a lapis lazuli or lapis lazuli depending on, yeah, that's one of my favorite ones. Let's go back to angels and archangels and frequency. Actually, we'll go to, we'll shift into that area. Your work includes connecting with angels and the archangels through sound and energy too. How do you experience that angelic energy in your practice?

Speaker 5:
[37:24] For me, it's evolved too. I look back at little Katie in the beginning of this journey, and I was like, bless her heart. She had no idea. She had no idea what was happening, what was to come. But in the beginning, they showed up. You would think, oh, here's a person with wings. They had their certain energies. I work with Archangel Michael a lot. Now I know he has always been with me. He's been with me for my whole life. For me, he shows up, he's very hot. Again, it's very fiery, very hot. I always say angels and archangels have great senses of humor. I think people have this idea like they're like, yes, they're holy. Yes, they have a very high frequency and they're meant to support, but they also work with humans. They know how to connect with us in ways that feel authentic to us. Archangel Michael, he's very hot. Well, in the beginning, I used to get a very high-pitched ringing in my ear when he would come and I would feel a little off balance. All of a sudden, it was like my brain would vibrate just for a second. Then I would ask questions, who are you? Then this was also practice for me and trusting. I'm certified as well in Angelic Reiki, which was channeled in Meditron. It's like Meditron downloaded it in back in, I guess, I'm going to say the early 90s.

Speaker 2:
[38:50] Yeah, it's been around for a long time.

Speaker 5:
[38:52] I also am attuned to that. That, I learned about the angels, what they did, what their jobs were, and that's how they would show up. Now, with Angelic Reiki, you channel their actual energy, so you merge your field with their field. Your aura energy has to be in a certain frequency to sustain that. With Angelic Reiki, that's what that does. It helps to attune your field. For me, that was back in 2012, 2013 that I did that. Now, I say they show up more as they are now for me. It's not necessarily in human form. They're just like these gorgeous spinning towers of light. They have different colors, but I know who they are because their essence remains the same. I can channel that energy in a different way because I'm doing this all the time. I say to people, however it feels good to you is how they will show up for you.

Speaker 2:
[39:49] Why do the gateway?

Speaker 5:
[39:50] They want it to be relatable. They want you to connect. That's what they're here as a support system for us. I work with Raphael a lot too. Raphael supports the healing energy and heart energy and Metatron. Metatron, I have nicknames for all of them too.

Speaker 2:
[40:09] What are their nicknames?

Speaker 5:
[40:12] For me, instead of thinking their names or saying it, Metatron and Michael will often come together. I just think M squared in my head and they'll be there. I call Metatron Met.

Speaker 2:
[40:24] Okay. So short, short.

Speaker 5:
[40:25] Just short.

Speaker 2:
[40:27] I was going to say, it's Michael, Mikey.

Speaker 5:
[40:28] That would be weird. I'm sure you can hear him right now.

Speaker 2:
[40:32] Yeah, I can. He showed up this morning. I had the Angelic Academy. I have it on the third Sunday of every month. So if anyone's interested, you can sign up. But anyway, I had that and the one we were channeling was actually Raphael today. It was funny, Michael was making a joke because I was in my kitchen making my water before I headed upstairs. I saw this little speck of blue light and then it flashed really big like, okay, you're focusing on Raphael today. Don't forget me. You need to tell everyone, don't forget me when they have jokes. It's funny.

Speaker 5:
[41:01] They do have jokes. I see Michael often in the beginning as flashes of light or as static, like snow or sparkles in the air. So those are really good references for people who are listening. If all of a sudden you're seeing these colors or what looks like sparkles, I say, you can get your eyes checked if you want because just to be on the safe side. But if it comes back normal, it's because you're seeing that it's their auric energy because they move so quickly. It's like we catch these little flashes of light.

Speaker 2:
[41:32] Yeah. One other thing I wasn't playing on mentioning this too, but they're like, bring up our wings. I think that, but I'd love to hear your thoughts, that as you mentioned, it's what people feel safe in all religions. I think it's like almost every single religion on Earth except with the exception of maybe one, have had angels in some capacity in that religious, which is also why it can be comforting for people who are under that bridge. Because even if you were not necessarily religious, they're talked about pretty much unanimously across the board. I think wings were given symbolically, one, because their light is so big, but also when you see them floating or moving, you automatically would think, okay, well, what flies? What moves? And that tends to be wings, but they do still are symbolic, the wings. So what have you experienced that? Because when I see them, they are light beams. They're like these big, massive beams of light.

Speaker 5:
[42:22] Yes. So in the beginning, I would see them with their wings, and their wings were all different too. So I think that that's an interesting point. As they're connecting with us, they're getting to also experience different parts, different aspects of maybe their own vibration. So it's fun for them too. That's what they would say like, oh, this is a change my wing color today. Jo Fayel, so Archangel Jo Fayel. I love her. She is my guide to help me with patience.

Speaker 2:
[42:53] Patience is in your patience or patience?

Speaker 5:
[42:55] My patience. Okay, your patience. My patience, to be more patient and to be in the moment. But she is one that likes to change what her wings look like. Oh, that's fun. She'll change the colors and it's interesting.

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Speaker 2:
[43:49] All right, well, we have a lot to get through, and I want to be respectful of your time, but I have so many more questions. So quickly on these, do different archangels carry different frequencies or tones?

Speaker 5:
[43:58] Yes. So color also has frequency. So for me, when it comes to archangels, it's more like the frequency of the color than the actual sound.

Speaker 2:
[44:07] Yes, yeah. And when you are working with angelic energy through sound, what's happening on an energetic level? You kind of covered this a little bit, but with the angels, it's different. So how's that?

Speaker 5:
[44:19] It is different. So I always want to be respectful of what people feel comfortable with. My intention is always whatever is for people's highest good. So I will set the intention that whatever angelic energy, if that person is open to it on a soul level, you know, on their subconscious, if they are open to this angelic energy working with them, that archangel will come and stand behind their chairs. So I always say it's a full room when that happens. And they hold space. That's the best way that I can think of it. It's like they stand there. And the way that that angelic frequency moves, it's like a wave over the person. So you have the sound waves and then you have the angelic waves, you know, and it creates this, it's like a vortex. And I zip people up. So even though the room's full, everybody's in their own little pod. So everyone's experience with whoever, angel-wise, people-wise, whatever that looks like, is their own.

Speaker 2:
[45:20] Yes. And that's how I work with it too. Not as much through the sound, because I don't do sound work quite like you do. But I have experienced those waves. And also, I look at it as with their energetic fields or their auric fields that kind of holds that container. Now, how can someone begin building their own relationship with either angels or angelic frequency or guidance from them?

Speaker 5:
[45:44] So I tell people, just ask. You can just say, in the very beginning, I used to pull an angel card. I had the Archangel deck was my first ever angel deck. And every morning I would wake up and I would say, okay, who am I going to connect with today? And I would pull a card. And whatever angel was on that card was who I talked to that day. Hey, can you help me find a parking spot? Hey, I mean, that's what they're there for. Ask them, can you let me know how you're going to show up for me? Can you send me a sign? And I learned to ask for specific signs too, like specific numbers. I would say, so that when I see this number, I know it's you, can you send me this number? And it really is unique for everyone. But I think calling in whoever is for your highest good, and then it's learning to trust. It's learning to trust if you get, honestly, the first time I asked for a guide's name, I heard Bob in my head, and I thought I was making it up. Because I was like, you're not telling me that I have a guide name Bob, like I just made that up in my head. So it's that learning curve where it's like, okay, well, this is what I heard, and even though I think it's silly in my brain, I'm going to trust it. So it's getting past that like human part of yourself that wants to tell you that you're making all of this up in your head.

Speaker 2:
[47:02] Yes, yes. And we kind of glossed over something really important, but you said it earlier as well, is that they don't buy past our free will and choice. So that's why it's important to ask them and or to invite them and in whatever way is the other thing. And all angels from my experience, especially the Archangels, which I call the heavy hitters, are here to be of love and to heal and to protect. However, they also have areas of specialty and focus. So there's that. But yes. Okay. So now let's move on to Whales, Water and Planetary Frequency. When you suggested this as a topic, I thought, oh cool, that has definitely never been covered on the podcast before. But you also work with whale energy and frequency. And this is something that many are probably not familiar with. I know way back, I'm going to date myself because I don't remember, but like maybe when I was a teenager, they were just starting to do studies and research with the sound of dolphins and whales and how they communicate and also telepathically underwater and through that sound. But also that they found it was very healing, just like bees, even using the honey and or candles that are made from bees. All of these frequencies and sounds have a healing effect and also have ability to connect, to communicate. So with that whale energy and frequency, can you explain that connection and how it came about for you?

Speaker 5:
[48:25] So for me, I've always been fascinated by them, but I was never like, oh, this is a thing. I thought that they were cool. I'm on the East Coast, I'm in Philadelphia area, so we were at the beach all the time, but we never saw whales in New Jersey. It just wasn't a thing for the longest time. And then in actually 2, 22, 22, my husband and I were in Maui and that is whale season there. And it was the first time that I had ever actually experienced a whale in the wild. And that day, the first time that I saw their humpbacks there at that time of year, it was like something, we'd talk about codes and how it feels in your body, that is what happened to me on that beach. And I'm crying watching, it was one of the most powerful experiences I've ever had. So from that point, they started to talk to me. And it was another learning curve for me, like am I making this up because I thought this was really cool? But no, you know, and they started talking about how their purpose...

Speaker 2:
[49:34] Real quick, sorry. When you say talk to you, was it more telepathic?

Speaker 5:
[49:37] Telepathic.

Speaker 2:
[49:38] That's what I got. I was getting telepathic and okay, so sorry.

Speaker 5:
[49:41] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[49:42] Go ahead.

Speaker 5:
[49:42] No, that's fine. I just talk about it like it's normal.

Speaker 2:
[49:45] No, no, I say that because, you know, it could have been emotional, you could have been getting the visuals and so, but I heard telepathic, so I just wanted to make sure. Because I do feel like they are extremely intelligent, probably even more so than us, because they understand the ways. And so, it's almost like if extraterrestrials were to come the same way when you hear that.

Speaker 5:
[50:06] Yes. And I do not think that that is too far off. That's another conversation. That's another one.

Speaker 2:
[50:12] That's a whole other podcast. I almost went down that rabbit hole with you and I was like, no, we don't have time.

Speaker 5:
[50:17] Yeah. So, whale frequency. So, they have a huge range of frequency and in the hertz that they actually communicate with. And it affects our, just like, just like our brain waves have different hertz that put us into like relaxation and sleep, and REM sleep. There's all these different things. And whale song tends to be those lower hertz that connect in with where our brain waves are when we're in those states. So, I don't know if you've noticed, this is something that I've noticed in the past, again, the past year, maybe like year and a half, all of a sudden, people are having these encounters with whales that have never happened before. Whales are, like humpback whales are approaching boats. Orcas are, you know, like swimming alongside of charters. And they're coming closer and closer to people. And the populations are also starting to rebound after all of the years of humans hunting them. And the one thing that the humpbacks, their frequencies can go all the way up to like 8,000 hertz, which is like a really, really high whistle. But I get to be, you can't swim with them technically in the US. But when you're in the water and the whales are there, their frequency is in the water. If you go underwater, you can hear them. So even though your body, your body's in the water, it's interacting with the water in your body. So again, it's like that's another way that I was getting information from them. Like this is what we're going to do. We're working with sound healing. The ancient things are coming back. There's so much. I'm still sifting through a lot of this information. I also know that some of it is downloaded and I don't have access to all of it yet, but it will come when the time is right. But they kept showing me that we're actually not different. We're not different at all. Even their chakras, their humpback whales, their chakra system is very similar to ours. Very, very similar. Humpbacks were my thing and then all of a sudden, I had this invitation to be able to go to Mexico and have this experience with gray whales. When you talk about intelligence, I will tell you, I have never in my life experienced an intelligence like I did when I was with these gray whales. We're in a little teeny tiny boat, like six people. These whales are 40 tons and they would come up, the moms would bring their calves up to the boats, and they would bring the babies right up to, and the babies would pop up and you could pet them, and they were so aware, and I could, again, it's that telepathic communication, and they were so aware of, they could have easily flipped us, but they would come up and they would stop at just the right, and they would, every time they came up, they would roll so that they would make eye contact with you. If you have ever looked into the actual eye of a whale, it's like looking into source energy. There's no other way to put it, and it's like what a gift that they're all still willing to show up for us, because that's what the message is from all of them. I mean, we even saw an orca which are not there at that time of year. And that message was we're here to support you, we're here to help you. This is part of what is next. Like they see the best in us when we can't see it in ourselves. And that's going to continue to grow. I think that these experiences and people being present in the moment when they're with whales and dolphins, everyone stops when you see these beautiful animals. Everyone stops and comes in to the moment. You know, and that's part of what the lesson is. But their awareness and consciousness is something. I say like I literally am a changed person since having the experiences that I did in Mexico. It was amazing. It just, and I know that there's so much more that I don't even have all of the access to. You know, I sent you that picture where I was doing Reiki on that. She popped up and I asked her and heard her say yes telepathically. And she would put her fin down for like five minutes. She just laid there. And when I would ask her, she would put her fin back up to my hand. Well, and I was like, but it was one of that was she was teaching me. She was teaching me to like trust my own telepathy, which is coming more online now. And also it's the willingness. And again, they have free will too. They could choose not, but they're choosing too. So it just, they help to put us, like you could listen to a recording of Whalesong. It will put you into like, into theta. It will put you into theta, which is the hertz is for meditation.

Speaker 2:
[55:19] Yeah, I have not been in the water with whales, but one of my clients when I was in Atlanta, I opened the Georgia Aquarium when it first opened and they have whale sharks there. And for a long, long time, whale sharks were only over on the other side of the world in Asia because they weren't indigenous and or in populations near North America. And so the short of it is they literally outfitted like a UPS freight airliner and made these giant tanks in order to be able to save them. Because over there, they ate whale sharks for food.

Speaker 5:
[55:51] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[55:52] And so part of the conservation effort was to help that repopulation. And when those whales first came, I was like so sad for them because you could feel everything that they went through. But then once they settled in and being there and seeing them with the tanks and how peaceful and calm they were and are, and also being above because I was able to go behind the scenes as the PR person and see them, and see them on top of the water. And by the way, you can go if you're interested, Katie or others, you can actually go scuba diving in the Georgia Aquarium with these whale sharks and have like an in-person. And they were like, we're here to heal, we're here to heal. Now, I didn't throw that into the media kid at the time, but yeah, they were here to transcend time and space and healing for us.

Speaker 5:
[56:38] So guess what I'm doing in October? I'm going back to Mexico to that same lagoon and swimming with the whale sharks because they migrate to that part of Mexico.

Speaker 2:
[56:49] See, well, you didn't have to go that far, you could always go to Georgia, but there's something to be said in nature and the actual natural setting of it for sure.

Speaker 5:
[56:57] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[56:58] Okay, well, I'm excited for you. I can't wait to see-

Speaker 5:
[57:00] Synchronicity.

Speaker 2:
[57:00] Yeah. I can't wait to see your pics and video because I was like, share with her and others that you can go diving with them. Okay. You shared with me earlier that energy is being transferred from water to Earth, and especially with the angels and the whales helping that, and you talked about as well that they're coming closer to humans and to humanity to help us. What does that mean?

Speaker 5:
[57:23] So my first experience with having these codes downloaded, I thought it was amazing when I was in the ocean and then I got out of the ocean. I had never felt so sick in my entire life. I actually felt like I was seasick on land, and I kept asking, what is happening? And it was actually, Michael said to me, it's too much to transfer because the land is too dense. So there's so much fluidity in the ocean, obviously, and the way that sounds and light and codes and everything else travels in there is much different than being on land. So I actually asked the whales if they could kind of fine tune it a little bit so that it wasn't making me feel so sick. And it was immediate. As soon as I asked them that, it was immediate and I felt better. So they were working with that, like how I would say I get to be like the practice kid. Like, let's practice on Katie.

Speaker 7:
[58:30] The guinea pig.

Speaker 5:
[58:32] Yes, exactly. So it was not pleasant, but now I know. So now I can say it because people have been experiencing this too, that same kind of feeling, like I feel really nauseous for no reason. I feel really sick. I feel like I'm kind of like off balance. And what the whales and the angels were saying is it's because those codes are transferring now. And the angelic vibration is able to hold it and kind of disperse it a little bit more evenly on land. It was almost when that happened, they were like, oh no, we're so sorry because it's not a thing. They don't see us as any different than they are. We see them as different, but they don't see us as different.

Speaker 2:
[59:16] The example that they're giving me right now, even when you're talking now, if you prescribe to the belief that we went to the moon and everything. So that's again another podcast. But when you're seeing these videos that some of the astronauts shared about with gravity once they get back to Earth, and they're trying to relearn through therapy with their body, it's the same thing with our energy. When we go from different states, we're in air, we're in the water, if we're on land type of thing. And I experienced this, I had never been that I know of, at least this physically ill when I got back from Egypt. I had a whole literal 48 hours of what I called the purge. I mean, it was just stuff moving out in all different kinds of directions, emotionally, mentally, physically, literally, like getting sick. And then another 48 hours of nothing but bliss, which was so, so wild to me and amazing at the same time. And I was like, why did I have to go through 48 hours of that? And they said, similar to what you did, you're changing the shifts in the vibration frequency and then what you're able to hold moving forward, the other stuff needed to move out. So when you receive any sort of codes, healing, it's not always going to, you're not going to be in the same state. You have to shift. It's got to go somewhere.

Speaker 5:
[60:30] Yeah. And it's not always pleasant. I don't often get sick just because of the way that I hold my energy. But this time last year, I was sicker than I'd ever been in my life ever. For three weeks, I was down for the count. And they kept saying, I was like, oh my God, what is happening? It was just so bad. I was like, guys, please, can we? And they kept saying, you need a clean slate. You need a completely clean slate. And I was like, well, we got it now. But it was right after that, that all of these things started to really anchor into my body and my energy fields. And where I felt the shift happen, in my physical body to be able to hold the energy differently.

Speaker 2:
[61:10] Yeah. And I've had to retrain myself because they told me this, that it's very important that when we're quote unquote sick, it's not that we're sick, we're healing, because that helps move it faster too. Okay. So let's, we got to move over to Patreon here in a moment. And I want to be mindful of your time. But one other final question regarding the whales and frequency, the planetary frequency is, why do you feel that this work is becoming more important right now? Because you mentioned also that they're coming closer to us too.

Speaker 5:
[61:37] Yeah. I think that there's finally enough people who are conscious. I think that we've tipped from like, you know, 50 to like 50.01% of people now who are more conscious, who are more awake, who are more connected, who are remembering who they are, who are remembering what they're here for. And because of that, the collective consciousness is also rising. And, you know, they always tell me, when my guides, my angels, always say to me, you know, once you get to that place, you guys will pull the rest along. So I think that they're coming so much more closely now because more people are open to it, more people are remembering, more people are able to be present in those moments that they can receive more than they ever have in the past. And I think we're going to continue to see these encounters happen with whales and dolphins and even other wildlife in general. I feel like their consciousness is raising just as we are. So it's been really interesting to get to be on the planet for this shift that's happening.

Speaker 2:
[62:49] Yes. It's so, so cool that you said that we're at that 50.1 percent because I like to ask my guides and angels to give me percentages and things. Like if I don't, you know, but also they keep saying, you're at the tipping point, not me, but humanity and that when you think about it at the end of the day, like I don't think there's been another time on this planet, at least that they're telling me that it's true, that we've been the majority of us in more of that awakened state and the ability and the intention to want to move forward in a different way and in a different capacity, which is a miracle in and of itself.

Speaker 5:
[63:25] Yes. I have that same messaging that is coming. So I mean, I love that alignment too, where it's like we can validate that for each other. And I know others out there are also getting that. So it's so amazing to me to watch it happen, and also know that even though it looks a mess here, there's this divine current that's riding underneath of it. I say that to people all the time, like try not to get pulled in. There's this current that's driving everything. It's running underneath all of this, and it's going to get us to where we need to be.

Speaker 2:
[63:58] Yes. And keep that in mind too, that it's not so dark out there. It may look like it, but we're more on the same page than not, even though it doesn't feel like that. See that? Okay, as we're wrapping up, for someone curious about sound healing or frequency work or angelic work, what is one way that they can begin exploring this safely and simply?

Speaker 5:
[64:19] So I can give you some resources if you want to post.

Speaker 2:
[64:23] In the show notes. Okay.

Speaker 5:
[64:25] Yeah, in the show notes. It's one of those things, go at your own speed. Go at your own speed, set good energy boundaries. Say that you only want what's for your highest good. There's lots of stuff flying around out there. So set a boundary and say, I only want authentic information. I only want authentic connection. Authenticity, my guides keep telling me, is the highest vibration we have right now. So claim authenticity for yourself and then be open and say, okay, show me to where I need to be. Show me where I can find this stuff. And then take the action steps, because that's where people get stuck.

Speaker 2:
[65:01] So much alignment with that card, because we keep using that word, but I'm going to say it again and be a broken record, in that I did an episode way, way back. I can't remember which one it is off the top of my head, but it was about how authenticity is the highest frequency. And I was, because I always thought it was love, unconditional, because that's what we are when we're at source level and we're in that oneness. And they said, no, because when you're authentic, you are at the heart of love. So I was like, woo, okay. If there's one thing you hope listeners take away from this conversation, what would it be?

Speaker 5:
[65:31] That you are connected, that you are a walking orchestra, that you have this vibration that's unique only to you, and you are here to make a difference on the planet by just being you. So show up for yourself, be you, step into your authentic, again, authenticity, step into your authentic self. You know, there's no one like you, and you have all of the tools that you need to be able to be the best version of you. Love it. All right.

Speaker 2:
[66:04] Thank you, Katie. And then in closing, where can listeners find you and explore your work?

Speaker 5:
[66:10] So I'm on Facebook as Katie Haegele, it's H-A-E-G-E-L-E, and on Instagram, I'm Katie Starlight11. I pull daily cards with channel messages every day, so for four years now. There's daily cards for four years. So that's something that's on there. I have my information, how to reach out about an appointment is also in both of those spaces pinned along with the cell phone, my cell phone number and email. Cell phone, I say, just shoot me a text. I am too busy to be able to be fielding phone calls all the time, text is the best way to be able to get in touch with me. Also, we do, Courtney, Natalie and I do our soul signatures live on YouTube.

Speaker 2:
[66:52] I was hoping you were going to bring it up.

Speaker 5:
[66:54] On Facebook. Yeah. So we have a live show that my friend Natalie and Courtney, who Nichole also knows, Natalie does astrology. Courtney is also a media and medical intuitive and an advanced practice nurse. We channel, tap in and say, okay, who wants to come talk to us or what do the guides and angels want us to talk about today? Every Monday at 3.30 Eastern time, that is what we do. We've channeled Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Olivia Newton-John is on our Frank Sinatra. It's been really interesting how all the music people have been showing up lately as well.

Speaker 2:
[67:32] That Michael Jackson one was wild. Well, and also was so timely because you guys were getting, you guys were getting, sorry, we're going to go off the, stay with us, we'll get back, we'll return back to Stanger. But you guys were all getting separate things from Michael and then he came through. There are a lot of things and false information about him out there, and I'll just leave it at that. Then I forget what happened, but news and other things were coming out right after you did the live show. So it was so timely.

Speaker 5:
[68:00] It was three weeks before all of that stuff came out. The three of us have been getting message so loud from him and we were like, okay, I guess he's coming to us for a reason. So that's what we did. Some of the things that he said to us in that, it was the beginning of January in that show, we actually came out weeks later and all of the stuff surfaced. So we were like, wow. But again, it's so nice to have that validation. Because we're like, why would Michael Jackson come and talk to us?

Speaker 2:
[68:33] Can I put in a special request?

Speaker 5:
[68:35] Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[68:38] I have two that I would love. It's Marilyn Monroe. I don't know if she's on your list and Cleopatra.

Speaker 5:
[68:45] I'm writing these down.

Speaker 2:
[68:46] I'll group chat or group text you guys.

Speaker 5:
[68:49] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[68:50] But whenever you guys can get to it, because I'm just curious with my own channelings from them, because they came to me when I was a teenager. I was like, why am I channeling these folks? I wrote down notes. I'd have to go find them. But yeah. Are there any offerings, programs, or resources you'd like to share too on your end?

Speaker 5:
[69:10] I have stuff that I can post up on my social media off the top of my head.

Speaker 2:
[69:15] I can include them in the show notes.

Speaker 5:
[69:17] Listening. Here's the thing too. I say to people, when it comes to the sound healing stuff, there are so many things out there like on Spotify, anywhere you could get Amazon music. Find something that when you listen to it, don't just randomly pick something and be like, I'm going to listen to this. If it doesn't feel good in your body, look for another one. Try and find those things. I love Ashanna. She has a specific, it's called Jewels of Silence. That's one of my most favorite. Singing bowl, because she does a little bit of chanting as well as the singing bowl. Playing, she's amazing. I always say go with what feels good in your body. When it comes to sound stuff, that's like the biggest advice.

Speaker 2:
[70:00] I'm going to go listen to Wales. All right, Katie, well, thank you so much for being on and sharing your wisdom with us. And we'll be back next week with another episode. Thank you for listening to A Psychic's Story. Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode and join the conversation on Instagram, Facebook or Twitter. All episodes are free on your favorite podcast player or at asychicstory.com. Have a question? Is there a topic you'd like to hear more about? Or have a suggestion for a future guest? Send an email to contact at asychicstory.com or leave a voicemail message at 1-800-880-1881. We'd love to hear from you and you may even be featured on a future episode. If you're interested in booking a session with me, you can do that directly on the website. And if you want to hear even more content hosted by yours truly, check out my other show, Supernatural Matters. Reminder that you are automatically entered to win either a free 20-minute intuitive or energy healing session with me if you leave 5 stars along with a positive review. Currently, reviews can be left on Apple, Stitcher, Podchaser or Castbox podcast players. Don't forget to email contact at asychicstory.com when you do because it allows me to get in touch with you if your name is pulled in the drawing. Your name stays in until you win.

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