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Speaker 1:
[01:58] You guys, welcome to another Pop Culture Kiki, as always, it's me, Kelli Williams.

Speaker 3:
[02:03] And Troy McEady.

Speaker 1:
[02:04] And not to brag, but my finger's like super straight now.

Speaker 3:
[02:09] The only straight thing about you.

Speaker 1:
[02:11] I know. But I did want to talk a little bit about the surgery. So if that stuff grosses you out, just fast forward through the intro and you know, you don't need to hear it. But I sent Troy a voice note about it. I stayed awake during the surgery and it lasted five Rihanna songs. The surgical assistant asked me like, what I wanted to hear. I was like, Rihanna. And I could tell she was shocked. I was like, just put on Rihanna, my safe space. So yeah, I could hear everything. And I couldn't obviously feel the cut. Like my finger was so numb. My hand was so numb, but I could hear him be like, and see under those tendons are the tendons we need to release. So I could like, I knew what they were up to. And at one point I felt like liquid dripped down my hand. I was like, blood, that's blood. So I had to like really focus on Rihanna during this surgery.

Speaker 3:
[02:59] It's also so crazy to hear them talk about the tendon and then snip the tendon that has been, like the very tendon that has been the reason for all of this for like years now.

Speaker 1:
[03:10] I know, I was like, get it, get it.

Speaker 3:
[03:12] Like fucking get that bitch, like burn it. And yeah, that's crazy. But now you have stitches, but you can bend your finger.

Speaker 1:
[03:19] Yes, I've gone to physical therapy twice already and it's only been a week basically since my surgery. So I've been moving it a lot. I unfortunately am allergic to codeine and I didn't know I was allergic to codeine until I had already taken like five codeine, Tylenols with codeine. Not all at once, all spread out when I was supposed to take them. So yeah, I basically didn't eat last week from Monday to Thursday. So if you are on the video tier, I know I look really thin, but I'm okay.

Speaker 3:
[03:51] Please don't start a Reddit thread about Kelli being too thin.

Speaker 1:
[03:54] No, I'm so skinny.

Speaker 3:
[03:59] Oh my God, that's hilarious. Well, I'm just like so happy for you that it's over. My God, like, I don't know what activities you've not been able to do, but I hope that you go out and do like go bowl 10 times in a row.

Speaker 1:
[04:12] Well, at PT, they were like, what do you want to do? I was like, I want to be able to like carry grocery bags again and bowls. Those are my end goals. But yeah, Troy, you were like watching my finger bend for years as it was happening. I was like, Troy, I don't know what's happening. But yeah, you checking in on me meant so much. And thank you to everybody who sent me DMs, just seeing if I was okay. It means a lot.

Speaker 3:
[04:34] I mean, I know I've said this a million times, but if I, if this was reversed and I was dealing with that, it would literally be such a huge part of our relationship. It would be our ball and chain together. We would be dragging it like a tumor. So I'm just like, so proud of you that you handle it so well, because I would be a complete maniac about it.

Speaker 1:
[04:56] Yeah. Well, thank you. How was your birthday? Did you do anything fun for your birthday?

Speaker 3:
[05:00] My birthday was very chill. This year, I knew that I didn't want any like, I didn't want any like crazy attention. I didn't want like a party or to like throw a big dinner. Like I just didn't want to do any of that shit. I just wanted to like, I hadn't been in New York in like a month. And I just really missed being here. And I just wanted to like, go out and do all the things that I do in New York on my own. I wanted to listen to music all day. I just like had a me day, honestly. But for my birthday birthday, I went to West End Girl with Katy. So that was like what I considered my birthday celebration was going to see Lily Allen. And I met Carol Radzowil in line at Lily Allen.

Speaker 1:
[05:43] Incredible.

Speaker 3:
[05:44] Kelly knows this story, but like you guys are going to fucking die. So I'm in line to get a drink with Katy and it's a winding bar line. So it's like, you know, the people in front of you are actually standing next to you in line because it's a winding line. So I look and I see Carol and I think not many people had spotted Carol yet. Like nobody really knew it was her. And then all of a sudden, when people realize it was her, you could hear the whole room like murmuring about it. Like people were like pointing and taking pictures and stuff. And this lady was behind us. And she's like, Katie's freaking out. I'm like pretty chill about seeing famous people. I wasn't like freaking out, but I was like, Oh my God, like I am going to, am I going to say something to Carol? You know, I'm going to be staying in extra in a second. And this lady behind this was like, Oh my God, that's Carol Radzowel. And we were like, yeah, that isn't like, it's crazy. She's here. And she was like, are you guys going to say something to her? I never say anything to people. And I was like, I don't know. I don't I don't ever think about it. Like I usually just either say something or not, but I never like play in it. And she was like, well, I'm not. But it was weird because it felt like she didn't want us to. Like, we couldn't figure out why she was so like weird about it. And she was like, are you going to say something? Are you are you going to let him say something? It was weird. And then finally, I was standing next to her and I was like, Carol, your ponytail looks really chic because she had like a big weave ponytail. And I'm not used to seeing Carol with weave. And I was like, that is a really chic pony. It was like down her back, a lot of magic hair. She had like, Bridget Bardot, like curtain bangs. She looked really fucking hot. And she was wearing this men's tuxedo shirt tied up and like just high-waisted vintage Levi's. And she looked really cool. And I was like, yeah, I like your whole outfit. You look really chic. And she was like, really? She was like, you think so? She was like, I just wore this because we were filming tonight. And I wouldn't normally wear this to like a concert or whatever, but we were just, we just finished filming. And I was like, no, you look so chic. Like it's, it's, it's a good look. And her friends were with her and she was like, she's so chic. She is chic. She is chic. She is the chicest. She is so chic. I was like, uh-huh. And then after we got done talking to her, the lady behind, she goes, what did you say? What did you say to her? You said you weren't going to talk to her. You let him talk to her. What did he say? She was like mad. And I was like, I just told her that I liked her outfit, that I liked her ponytail. And she was like, well, I don't like the outfit. And she was like, I don't think that a woman her age would be wearing something like that. It's so inappropriate. And she doesn't have the body for it. Then we end up arguing with this lady because she was calling her fat of all the women in the world. Like bring up Ghislaine. But like you're going to call this woman fat right now. Seriously, Carol Radzowil. Come on now. Come on. Like it was just like both of us were like, girl, this is like, you can say a lot of things about this woman, but to say that she's fat and she's like her stomach's hanging. I was like, her stomach is hanging. She's like gaunt, like she's rail thin. She has abs. She's and she's in her 50s. Yeah. And she looks like that. Like it was just such a weird moment. But aside from that, Westin Girl was like really fucking cool. It was a really, really, really cool show. It was basically a play. It was a like a stage production.

Speaker 1:
[09:21] I'm so glad you got to go because I think you were the first person I heard speak about this album in general.

Speaker 3:
[09:28] Yeah. I've been a Lily girl for a very long time, so I was excited and I thought it was cool that it wasn't like a, it was at Radio City Hall. It was like, yeah, it wasn't like a typical concert experience. So that was like just fun to see them moving the set around. And she was acting out the lyrics of the songs. Like, so that was really cool. The show was amazing and she sounded really good. But yeah, that was a really wild, a wild little moment to meet Carol and then be attacked by some lady because she called Carol fat. It was crazy.

Speaker 1:
[10:02] Well, what did you think of Coachella? Speaking of concerts, what were your Coachella thoughts?

Speaker 3:
[10:07] I think I need to know yours before I want to know yours first.

Speaker 1:
[10:13] Honestly, I think I didn't know that the second weekend was like more fun than the first. I really enjoyed watching clips from the second weekend a lot more than the first weekend. I thought bringing out Madonna was awesome. Sabrina Carpenter has really warmed her way into my heart. Do I play her music often? No, but I like to watch her whether she's at an award show or doing something like this. I always know she's going to be fun. Seeing Casey Musgraves was really cool. I like that she got added to the second weekend. Seeing Big Sean again, I forgot how big of a Big Sean fan I was until I started hearing him going, wobbly, wobbly, wobble, wobble. I was like, oh, shit, I love Big Sean and Justin Bieber. People, I get it.

Speaker 3:
[10:59] What do you think?

Speaker 1:
[11:00] I didn't pay for Coachella, so I enjoyed it. I understand if you paid for Coachella and you didn't enjoy it, fully get it. Or if you're someone who's like, you know, if Sabrina Carpenter went up there and played on a laptop, it wouldn't be received well, I agree. I agree 100%. But I just thought it was fun. And it's kind of nice to see Justin perform with like light in his eyes again. We've done this podcast almost five years. And I feel like there was a point where we were almost like, is this going to be bad for Justin Bieber? Like, how will we report something happening to Justin Bieber? But I don't know. I thought the second weekend was a lot better than the first. And I want your thoughts on this because I understand he was doing his own version of like, eras, kind of, like playing his first YouTube video and playing clips of old music videos. But I noticed he shouted out Justin Timberlake and not Usher. Do you think that was purposeful?

Speaker 3:
[11:59] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[12:00] Okay, I thought so, too, because some people were like, you're looking too much into it. I'm like, I don't think I am, though.

Speaker 3:
[12:06] Not if you, like, know the history. You know?

Speaker 1:
[12:10] Yeah, those are kind of my only thoughts. And I thought, like, Billie Eilish being the one less lonely girl was really fun. But yeah, not that I will ever go to Coachella. But if I was, I would have to go to Weekend, too, because it seems more fun. What about you?

Speaker 3:
[12:22] The Billie thing was so cute.

Speaker 1:
[12:24] Yeah. And they have so much history.

Speaker 3:
[12:27] I know. And there's already people have already made fan edits that have, like, made me emotional of her, like her entire career talking about him. I mean, it would be like if I would, if like, I don't, I can't even think of a comparison. It would be like if if Jamie Lynn was like, get up there, go sing with her and told me to like go sing with Britney. Like, that's like really cool that that happened for her, you know? Totally. Yeah. I was kind of split down the middle about Coachella this year. I felt like this is the year that I realized that Coachella has become more for the people at home than the people at the festival. It's turning on itself, where it's like, it used to be this festival about music and about like going there and not giving a fuck and doing drugs and being free and blah, blah, blah. Now it is a social media festival. Like, it's not a place where you can like go be free and like wear H&M and like listen to the strokes. Like, people hiring stylists this year for Coachella was really fucking crazy and like very dystopian. I thought like the Victoria, Paris, like Starbucks house of it all was just so fucking Hunger Games weird. Like that part of it was really itchy to me. I just thought it was all so like the influencers are like they are an invasive species.

Speaker 1:
[13:49] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[13:50] That needs to be eradicated.

Speaker 1:
[13:52] I agree with you. And I've even seen some influencers who were like, I wouldn't have gone to Coachella if I didn't get a brand deal. And it's like, I don't know if we need to be like, that's like an inside thought that you don't need to like announce. There's a lot going on right now.

Speaker 3:
[14:05] Like really? And I didn't even know that people like this could be a thing that has always happened. And maybe it just went over my head. But everybody being like, who invited you? Who invited you to Coachella? Who are you going with? You can just go to Coachella. You don't have to be. It's not the ball. It's not the Met Gala. You can just go. You don't have to wait for a company to reach out to you to go to fucking Coachella. Like, what are you guys talking about? And then the whole like, I was invited, but they uninvited me. Really? Mass uninviting from companies this year. How ironic.

Speaker 1:
[14:44] Yeah. Yeah. The whole influencer stuff is very strange. And it's strange because they took the spot of my CW celebs that used to go to Coachella.

Speaker 3:
[14:54] Yeah. And they were fun. I'm sorry. Like that 2010s era of like, you know, Shanae Grimes being at Coachella, they knew how to Coachella. These people, I think, have turned this festival into something that like, is just not fun. Like, I just, I don't know. It makes me kind of sad. It's like, I think we need like, we need a new festival to fill the void of what Coachella used to be. Because Coachella now is just like, it's an Instagram festival. It's just too influencer-y. Like, they have really ruined the vibe. But the music, I thought, was really great this year. I had a really, really fun time watching it. I basically feel like the Coachella now is the VMAs. I think that it's, it's become a spectacle. What are you gonna wear? Like, it's the VMAs. It's the closest thing we have to that excitement. So I had a lot of fun watching it. I've never watched the Coachella livestream before. I don't even know how long they've been doing that, but I thought that was really cool. I really, really, really loved Blood Orange. If you guys know anything about me, you know, Blood Orange is like one of my favorites of all time. And that was my favorite set of the whole show. But I liked the Justin Bieber set. I thought it was nostalgic and sweet. And it was kind of nice. Like, I feel like the sets have gotten just so over the top. And that's really cool, because the budget is crazy. But I also don't always need, like, pyro and water exhibits and, you know, cars driving through the stage and all this shit. Like, I thought it was, like, cool that it was so extremely stripped down. It was the total opposite. It felt really intimate, like a House of Blues thing or something. I thought Sabrina was really good. It's like, damn, that's a pop star, you know? Do all her songs sound identical? Yeah. Could I tell them apart? Nope. At a certain point, I looked at Dara and I was like, have we heard this song? Do I like the beat?

Speaker 1:
[17:00] I like the beat.

Speaker 3:
[17:02] They are all the same song, but it's all right. They're all good. I thought FKA Twigs was absolutely out of this world. She probably blew me away more than anything. I was just so in awe of her. She is such a fucking artist. She's such a weirdo. I love her. The Madonna thing, it pissed me off.

Speaker 1:
[17:27] Why?

Speaker 3:
[17:29] Because they were all so dystopian. It was like watching a zombie movie. It was just so weird.

Speaker 1:
[17:38] I thought you were going to say it didn't fit right. I was like, wait, did you not have fun watching her? But now I get what you mean, like the crowd.

Speaker 3:
[17:45] Yeah, the crowd was horrible. They ruined the entire experience, I think. Like, I mean, to the point that Madonna was like, can you guys hear us? Like, what is wrong with you?

Speaker 1:
[17:56] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[17:56] And like, I keep seeing obviously there's all this debate back and forth about whether it's like a Gen Z problem or if it's a problem that's specific to Coachella. And I think that it's a combination of both. Like, I think what's so fascinating about Gen Z is that it seems like they genuinely do not know how to enjoy experiences. And it's a really interesting thing to watch, not just from like millennials, but I think just in general, like to watch these people try and enjoy things, but they're like not, their brains are not wired to enjoy things the way that every generation before them has. So the result is them standing and watching Madonna at Coachella with no expression, no reaction, not dancing, blank faced with a phone, an inch from their face. Like the video, I don't know if you saw any videos of people filming the audience, like behind them. Yeah, it was freaky. It was complete silence.

Speaker 1:
[18:59] Yeah, I agree. And I'm not going to say that I'm not someone who takes out their phone at concerts. Like I am guilty of that. But I do think it's important to put it away for a little bit and like really be there because yeah, you want to get some kind of video of Madonna seeing Madonna is like seeing a living living legend in my opinion. But you also want to be able to like be in it and really enjoy it.

Speaker 3:
[19:18] Right. My my filming policy is I'll film a chorus.

Speaker 1:
[19:23] Yeah, that's good. I never do full songs.

Speaker 3:
[19:26] I film a chorus and then I let myself enjoy it.

Speaker 1:
[19:29] That's all you need.

Speaker 3:
[19:30] I'm yeah, I'm totally for you want them the moment. I don't know what any of us are going to do with these concert videos, but you want the moment and I get that. But it was just very like, what the fuck is wrong with these people? Like, I just feel like Gen Z doesn't know how to engage in the world in a way that it's like how to engage in life. They the way that they engage in life feels strange to everybody older than them. And like the concert thing is one of those things where it's like, damn, like you guys are really just blank staring quietly at the stage at Coachella. Like, if I was like running Coachella, I'd be like, we can't use the footage of the audience. This is like weird.

Speaker 1:
[20:14] If you were in Coachella, you'd pay people to like walk around and slap phones out of people's hands. Like, watch the stage.

Speaker 3:
[20:21] You would hear me getting violent and tussling with people in the audience. I would have been so mad. But yeah, I just I feel like the whole thing in general has just become so the influencers have come. Like I said, they're an invasive species. They came in and they disrupted the ecosystem to the point that now it's like, watch me style myself for Coachella. It's like just going to the Starbucks house. I hired a stylist for Ericka and we're all wearing the same belt.

Speaker 1:
[20:50] I also wanted to give a shout out to Carol G. I had never listened to her music before these past two weekends. And her voice is so like crystal clear powerful. So I just wanted to also give a shout out to her because she killed it on Sunday night.

Speaker 3:
[21:04] Yeah, she's amazing.

Speaker 1:
[21:06] Yeah. I love music I don't understand, but makes me want to dance.

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 1:
[26:13] Well, staying on the track of concerts, everyone's going to be really sad. Meghan Trainor canceled her concert. Her tour, she was about to go on. So if you did get tickets to Meghan Trainor, you will be refunded.

Speaker 3:
[26:26] What was the excuse that she gave, even though we all know it was because of low ticket sales?

Speaker 1:
[26:29] She said it was more than she could take on. She stated that balancing the tour album and New Baby was just more than she could take on.

Speaker 3:
[26:38] And Sabrina keeps changing her costumes and it's like, how am I supposed to copy them if she keeps changing them? I would imagine that's probably really difficult for her.

Speaker 1:
[26:45] Definitely.

Speaker 3:
[26:46] I can't stand that bitch.

Speaker 1:
[26:51] Meghan Trainor is on our enemies of the pod list.

Speaker 3:
[26:53] She is. She is an enemy of the pod. Like she is truly like, I can't even talk about her because it'll go into territory that I'm embarrassed to have recorded. You know? Speaking of Meghan Trainor, we should talk about this before it gets too out of control before we go too far. Britney Spears is in a rehab facility.

Speaker 1:
[27:13] Oh, yes. Yes.

Speaker 3:
[27:15] Hello. While we weren't recording, it was reported that she admitted herself to a rehab. So I tried to find the most recent article because I don't think that we know anything other than what was reported last week about her going. So I'll just read. This is from BBC. This was from the 13th. It says Britney Spears goes into rehab after driving under the influence. It says she's gone to rehab a month after she was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol and drugs. The singer voluntarily checked herself into a treatment facility. Her representative told multiple US media outlets on Sunday. Following her arrest on March 4th, the star's representative called the incident completely inexcusable and said her loved ones would come up with an overdue needed plan to set her up for success, for her well-being. Her entry into treatment comes three weeks after the DUI, blah, blah, blah, BMW driving erratically, blah, blah, blah, signs of impairment, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. Afterwards, her representative told the BBC, Britney is going to take the right steps and comply with the law, and hopefully this can be the first step in a long overdue change that needs to occur in Britney's life. Hopefully she can get the help and support she needs during this difficult time. Her boys are going to be spending time with her. Her loved ones are going to come up with an overdue needed plan. Yeah, so her sons have been getting paparazzi a lot. And that's crazy. It was just like, wow, this is happening now. Like, they're going to start dating influencers and TikTokers, and they're going to be famous. And that's really weird. It makes me feel really old and crazy. But I'm I'm happy for her. Like, I think that this is good for her. And I've always just kind of chalked Britney's behavior up to like mental health and addiction. I think that like what people find so like disturbing or whatever, or like conspiracy theory or whatever about her social media is like mostly just her being an addict.

Speaker 1:
[29:24] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[29:24] And yeah, I think that this is good for her. What do you what did you think about it when you heard?

Speaker 1:
[29:29] Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. She just had her DUI that she was on allegedly on drugs. She wasn't drinking, but she was still on something. So I think for the safety of her and everyone else, like, I don't think this is a bad thing. But I really hope that this doesn't somehow get turned into her having to be like back in a conservatorship. I would say that that's like something I'm a little weary about, but there's nothing wrong with a rehab stay if you need it.

Speaker 3:
[29:56] Yeah. And I guess my my biggest fear for her is that she's so turned off by medication and therapy and doctors and help because she's been so abused by the medical system. So I just hope that an actual kind human being comes into her life and like wants to help her and wants to like actually do something productive for her rather than trying to take advantage or figure out some way to steal money.

Speaker 1:
[30:28] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[30:29] I hope she meets a nice like female therapist. That's like a little bit older and like really nurturing and motherly. That's like what I really hope for her.

Speaker 1:
[30:39] Yeah. I think that's all any of us can hope, honestly. And I hope that we start seeing like glimpses of maybe a healthier Brittany that seems more familiar so people can kind of chill the fuck out and stop saying she's a clone.

Speaker 3:
[30:52] Oh my God. My dream.

Speaker 1:
[30:57] So there was drama during our little one week break between Alex Cooper and Alex Earle and kind of Brianna Chicken Fry. So I know the very top layer of all of this. I am sure like Reddit has deep, deep dives of everything. So apparently Alex Earle has been liking or had been liking shady comments about Alex Cooper. She maybe reposted something saying Alex was an ambulance chaser, which we will get to in a moment. And Alex Cooper basically was like, say what you need to say, little girl. Like she made a video being like, Alex Earle, what's going on? And it reminded me at the end of 13 when Tracy's like, speak up, mama, because I can't hear you. Like, it seems like that energy. So basically, from from what I saw is Alex Earl still hasn't said anything directly. But then Brianna Chickenfry was like, well, Alex Cooper is not nice. She's a bitch. And Alex Cooper is like, I've never met you. And Brianna Chickenfry was like, you were on an episode of my show. And she was like, my bad, didn't remember. And a lot of just back and forth. And Brianna Chickenfry is always in everything. But what just came out, I believe, yesterday on Bloomberg is that apparently Alex Cooper's husband is the issue, allegedly, with Unwell. The key takeaways from this Bloomberg article, Alex Cooper's podcast Empire is facing challenges, including employee turnover and discord between staff members and her husband, Matt Kaplan. Kaplan has earned a reputation for frequently yelling at staff members with some crew members threatening to quit if he doesn't behave better. Unwell has struggled to increase hit programming beyond Call Her Daddy and has shifted its focus to acquiring existing shows rather than building new programs from scratch. So my guess is that Alex Cooper's husband was not nice to Alex Earle or something. So Alex Earle left, but Alex Cooper did give her her IP. Like, it's not like she kept anything. She kind of just released Alex Earle to do whatever. My only thing, and I want your opinion on this, I've been waiting to talk to you about this, is the ambulance chaser thing. You and I have said multiple times, we do not think Alex Cooper is the best interviewer, but that's where people want to go. They used to want to go to Good Morning America and The Today Show. Now they go to her. And I don't think it's fair to call her an ambulance chaser. If you're not going to call, I don't know, Katie Couric an ambulance chaser. It's just like, we just have a different media now. It's a different spot for people to go to. What do you think?

Speaker 3:
[33:35] No, I agree. And like, it works. Yeah. It gets her the clicks, it gets her the views, it gets people talking about it, like whether or not she's a good interviewer doesn't really seem to matter at this point. You know what I mean? It's more so about like the clicks and how many people are discussing the fact that the person was even on her show, even if they don't talk about anything that they said.

Speaker 1:
[33:59] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[34:00] Like just her guests, the who she's able to get on that show alone is enough of like a buzzy thing to keep people going on it. Like the interviews are extremely frustrating. You know what I mean? But like, yeah, I agree with you. This is wild. It's like Battle of the Blonde White Women with Instagram face.

Speaker 1:
[34:24] That's really funny.

Speaker 3:
[34:26] That's so crazy.

Speaker 1:
[34:28] It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, because if you remember the original Call Her Daddy drama was because of Sophia Franklin's boyfriend at the time. And now it seems like Alex Cooper's husband is allegedly running amok. And I don't know, people love to pile on to Alex Cooper. I don't know enough about her to like say why. Other than maybe she's annoying and not the best interviewer. But also, like she has really built this brand out and she is able to get these big guests because nobody watches the Today Show anymore.

Speaker 3:
[34:59] God, behind every successful woman is a man trying to fucking destroy what she's built. Jesus Christ, it's so crazy. God, let's talk about movies.

Speaker 1:
[35:15] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[35:17] You saw the drama.

Speaker 1:
[35:18] I did see the drama.

Speaker 3:
[35:20] Yeah. What do you think about the drama?

Speaker 1:
[35:22] I loved it. And spoilers ahead, everyone. Just please fast forward if you don't want spoilers. I will say I'm glad that somebody in our Patreon comments mentioned how much like gun violence there was because I didn't expect there to be so, so much. But overall, I liked it. And I think Zendaya is so like captivating. And I love seeing her on a big screen. And yeah, I think that she did great. And I'm not the biggest like Robert Pattinson fan, but he was fun to watch. And is it Danielle Heim that's in it? One of the Heim sisters? Listen, Rachel, if I ever see you on the street, you're a little bitch.

Speaker 3:
[36:00] She was so good as that character because she literally like ignited people. Our theater was going nuts. You could see the girls like rocking back and forth in their seat. Like people wanted to fight her.

Speaker 1:
[36:10] Yeah, I like leaned over to Blair and I'm like, she's actually the worst one.

Speaker 3:
[36:14] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:15] Yeah. But I liked it. And I like that it showed that everyone has their shit. Like some people's shit is a little more serious than other people's, but everyone has done the things they're not proud of.

Speaker 3:
[36:26] I've never seen a movie like it. I've never seen a movie shot that way. I've never seen a movie edited like that. I thought it was like for it to have jumped all over the place that like that, it was still so easy to follow. And what's so crazy is like during like Twilight, I wasn't really like a Robert Pattinson head. It wasn't until after that I became a really big fan of his. And now I think that he's like one of my favorite male actors. I think he's so captivating, like his voices, his accents, like he really gets lost in a character. And like it's just fun to watch him play up against somebody like her, who also is so captivating and so like, like all her characters feel so lived in, like physically, like she just feels, you know, so comfortable and they're both really good at that. And I just thought that they like bounced off of each other so well, like the good and bad, like the happy parts of the movie where they had chemistry were incredible. And the bad parts where they were like fighting were also so good, like.

Speaker 1:
[37:31] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[37:33] And yeah, I agree with you. I thought it was like to me that the message of that movie was very much like. It's like everybody is fucked up and some people choose to be honest about it, but there are also people walking around every day that have had thoughts like her and don't act on it. And it doesn't mean that you're like a bad person. Like she wasn't a worse person than her friend. Her friend did do something horrible, you know?

Speaker 1:
[38:02] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[38:03] That was awful what she did. That made me more. I was like, oh, my God.

Speaker 1:
[38:08] And I don't know how to explain it, but I guess I'm going to explain it this way. Sorry, everyone. I did drink a Celsius. I felt like I knew each character. Like they felt like really familiar. Everyone, even the actor who played the best man, I was like, oh, like, oh, yeah, I understand him. And I understand why Rachel is a bitch and she wouldn't be my friend. But I know her.

Speaker 3:
[38:30] Yeah. And I love that it was like Robert Pattinson like couldn't admit anything that he had done wrong. And then it turns out the worst thing that he ever did was like to her. Like she got to experience the worst thing he ever did. It was to her. It was cheating on her right before their wedding and like destroying the wedding. You know, so it made them it made them even. So then when they like met again at the end, it was like they really could be like, all right, let's really do this because now we're even and you're not the scariest person in the room. I'm emotionally violent as well. And we can do this thing. Yeah, I thought it was great. And the fucking music. Oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[39:13] It was just so like I said, I've never seen him or like you said, I've never seen a movie filmed that way either. And I just loved it. And I didn't expect to like it as much as I did.

Speaker 3:
[39:23] Yeah, I would definitely put it on my, you have to go see this movie list, I would say for sure. And it's like universal. I feel like everybody will like it. I also saw Mother Mary. I went to like a pre-screening of Miss Anne Hathaway's pop star film. And. I'm gonna say beautiful, visually stunning, acting out of this world. Anne Hathaway, so fucking good. And Michaela, I've loved Michaela since Chewing Gum. So I will literally watch literally anything she's in, whether it's Chewing Gum, Black Mirror, I don't care. I just love her. Her acting was beyond words. The movie itself, not for me. It wasn't for me. It was like very conceptual. It was a lot of dialogue. It's mostly just those two acting at each other in one room. Anne Hathaway's acting is beyond words. She's so spectacular. It feels like a big music video. I felt like I was watching Born This Way. I felt like I was watching a bunch of Gaga videos. I was watching Born This Way. Sometimes it felt like Abracadabra. It had Judas vibes. It looked like a music video. And then sometimes it felt like I felt like I was watching a Kate Bush video. I was watching like, I don't know, it was just, it felt like a big long music video. And I'm a theater vibes gal. I love to pick up the vibes of people around me. I heard a lot of huffing and puffing, which isn't great. I could tell people were waiting for it to be over. I could see people started whispering more about, and you can always tell when people start disrespecting the movie that they're like over it when they're just like, I'm going to talk now.

Speaker 1:
[41:29] Here's my phone.

Speaker 3:
[41:30] Yeah, like, fuck it. So a lot of that, the theater, I felt like wasn't really into it, but I think it's going to be a polarizing movie. Like I think people should see it because you'll either love it or hate it. But yeah, it's kooky. It's weird. I don't think you'd like this movie.

Speaker 1:
[41:50] I was just thinking, well, if nobody likes it, I'll probably enjoy it.

Speaker 3:
[41:55] He I saw Lee Cronin's The Mummy, and a lot of our listeners recommended that I go see this movie. A lot of the horror girlies that listen to the show. You guys told me that it would be fun and gross. And you were right. It was really fun and disgusting. It was so fucking gross. But in like the funnest way, it was so fun. Like I did not expect, this isn't really my vibe. Like the mummy is not like, it's never been for me. I loved this movie. Like I had so much fun watching. Was it like Schindler's List? No, you know, it wasn't the help. It wasn't like some Oscar worthy movie. No, it was silly. It was ridiculous. It was silly, but it was funny. It was like a really dark humor and I wasn't expecting to laugh so much. Just the absurdity. So if you don't know, I'm not spoiling anything. This is in the preview. But basically the movie is about this little girl. She gets abducted and then she comes back and she's not the same. They find her years later from a mummy tomb and the parents are just like, oh, our little girl is home from from a tomb. They barely ask any questions about it. They're just like, who cares? She's home. That's all that matters. From a tomb and she's a mummy. And it's like it's hilarious watching the parents act like it's not weird that there's a mummy in their house. And they're like, our little girl back where she belongs. And she's like bound in mummy fucking cloth and is like gray. Oh, so that was like silly and kooky. But it's fun. If you like a gory like popcorn horror movie, like you will love this movie. You should go see it. The last thing that I saw, and I can talk about this really fast, was they will kill you. This isn't really new anymore, but I just hadn't seen it. And I waited until the last minute again. Fun. It was like absolutely ridiculous. Don't go into the movie thinking that it's like going to make sense or anything. It's a silly vampire movie, but it's like very action forward. There's a lot of really cool fight scenes. It's like a vampire movie meets like Kill Bill. It was fun. It was gory. Patricia Arquette doing like a, I don't even fucking know, like a German accent or something. I'll take it. And the lead, she was really great as like our little action hero, girly. It was fun. Again, I don't know if I'd ever watch the movie again. It's not going to like, I don't need the Blu-ray, but I'm happy that I saw it. And it was a fun theater experience because it's very action forward. It's like, like I said, lots of fight scenes, a lot of gore. There's a lot of cool setups for this girl to like do stunts, but she was awesome.

Speaker 1:
[45:01] So I did watch Boy Band Confidential and it is on HBO Max if you guys haven't watched it yet. I thought it was really good. I think Joey Fatone, there have been quite a few of these documentaries over the years. I think Joey put together the best one. As someone who's been obsessed with this stuff for years and years, I didn't learn too much new information. I will say if I ever see Johnny Wright, it's on site. I hate Johnny Wright. I think Johnny Wright is such a slimy creature of a man, and it's so gross how he can sit there and be like, Lou did all this gross stuff with all these young men, but I didn't know anything about it. Whereas you were Lou's right-hand man, so what do you mean you didn't know anything about it? I understand Backstreet Boys are rotted. In 2026, Backstreet Boys, not great. But Johnny Wright goes into how his revenge was his success, and how he would just take, because Backstreet Boys ended up firing him once they realized Lou Pearlman stole $28 million from them. More than that, I think. So he decided to make NSYNC bigger, because NSYNC didn't fire him. And he's talking about how he would find out Backstreet Boys were supposed to be on the American Music Awards, and somehow get NSYNC in there instead of Backstreet Boys. And I'm like, so you're putting revenge on these 17, 19-year-old boys because they fired you, because you were friends with their pedophile slumlord manager?

Speaker 3:
[46:36] Well, he's extremely evil and spiteful, and he's one of those guys we always say, like, it's, like, unfortunately, how unfortunate, how talented he is and how good he is at his job, because he's literally a piece of shit.

Speaker 1:
[46:51] Yeah. And I just think it's so gross how he gets to sit there and act like he didn't know anything Lou was doing and just kind of be like, well, I'm still managing Justin to this day, so I must be good. But what I would love to do is in the second part of the episode, they talk a lot about Lou being a creep, which I really appreciated. Ashley Parker Angel talks about it. This guy Scott, who Lou basically plucked out of obscurity from the mall. Brad Faschetti from LFO. We learned that he was, like, one of Lou's drivers, which they talk about in the Mad About the Boys Vanity Fair article that we mention all the time. I know we talk a lot about Lou Perlman, but what I would like to do is take this article, break it down and put in new points we've learned and just kind of, like, expand on that article because Troy and I could talk about Lou Perlman all day and we shockingly don't have a Lou Perlman episode, but I think combining this documentary with the article would be really good because Joey actually killed this one.

Speaker 3:
[47:52] Yeah, we should totally do that.

Speaker 1:
[47:56] So, that'll probably be next week's public episode, just so everyone knows.

Speaker 3:
[48:00] Yeah, Johnny Wright is somebody that I feel like, like, at least people know Lou. People don't know Johnny Wright, which is insane to me, that all these years he's been able to just kind of slither through. But yeah, Johnny Wright, like, from like 99 to, like, 2000, I want to say like four or five. Like, he was like a huge part of the image of Britney Spears. Like, he helped create Britney. And all of the crop top, the schoolgirl thing, the Lolita, all of that stuff was his idea. He literally, like, raised her. And then when the Justin stuff happened, he left Britney to work full time for Justin and then helped Justin make an album about Britney. Like, he's really a treacherous person.

Speaker 1:
[49:00] And he sued Britney in 2007. He sued her for unpaid wages or whatever. But yeah, I guess I'm sick of seeing Johnny Wright, but it is funny, like, they open it up with AJ talking about how he played Dopey. And I could recite exactly what AJ was saying because of how many times AJ has told this story. Blair was at one point, Blair was like, well, I hope you learn something new.

Speaker 3:
[49:25] Oh, AJ.

Speaker 1:
[49:26] I know.

Speaker 3:
[49:27] Get AJ on the theater stage. He needs to be doing, like, theater acting, I feel.

Speaker 1:
[49:33] I agree. Get him away from Brian and Nick and let him be a drag queen, because I think that's exactly what AJ wants.

Speaker 3:
[49:40] Make AJ the next Roxy Hart. We demand it.

Speaker 1:
[49:45] Did you get a chance to watch it yet?

Speaker 3:
[49:48] No, I haven't. So that'll be a good excuse to watch it if we do it this week.

Speaker 1:
[49:52] OK, cool.

Speaker 3:
[49:54] We should talk about Katy Perry and Ruby Rose.

Speaker 1:
[49:56] I'm going to need you to like explain this to me like I'm in fifth grade because I feel like I missed something.

Speaker 3:
[50:03] OK, so I'm going to read the tweets. So this all started because Complex Music posted this thing that said like Katy Perry reacts to Justin Bieber's Coachella set where he essentially sang karaoke to his older material on YouTube. So first, that video went kind of viral of Katy being confused at his Coachella set. And that was during the moment of everybody being like, a woman could never do this. Like Katy Perry has rode into the Super Bowl on a 30 foot lion. You know, she was flying around the stage in Vegas, and people were making fun of her, and Justin is doing karaoke. A woman could never, which I still think is a valid point. I get that, right? So then Ruby Rose responds to Complex's tweet, and she says, Katy Perry sexually assaulted me at Spice Market nightclub in Melbourne. Who gives a shit what she thinks? And then she just kept going. And she said, I'm going to read down the list. These might be a little out of order, because I just took screenshots as I was like panicking. I was like, I was so scared that they were going to disappear. I was only in my early 20s. I'm now 40. It has taken almost two decades to say this publicly, though I am grateful to have made it long enough to find my voice. It just shows how much of an impact trauma and sexual assault takes. Thank you for seeing me. So somebody responded and said like, so she kissed a girl and you didn't like it. They're trying to be funny. And Ruby Rose said she didn't kiss me. She saw me resting on my best friend's lap to avoid her. And she bent down, pulled my pulled her underwear to the side and rubbed her disgusting vagina on my face until my eyes snapped open and I projectile vomited on her. And she brought up how, you know, for a myriad of reasons, opening up about woman on woman violence and sexual abuse seems to be 100 times harder than speaking about male predators, at least for me. She said after I threw up on her, I told the story publicly, but changed it to be funny, a funny little drunk story because I didn't know how else to handle it. Later, she agreed to help me get my US visa. So I kept it a secret, but I did tell y'all she wasn't a good person. Instead, I got attacked by everyone. She also said, I'm not interested in filing a report over this. Not when I haven't even filed a report for the numerous rapes at the hands of grown men. But she is more than welcome to sue me. She won't because it happened. I have photos and it was literally in public and witnessed by multiple people. Plus, there's so much more that happened in the years leading up to her silly song. She won't want me discussing. The psychological manipulation was strong with that one. But hey, she wrote and signed the letters of recommendation for my US visa application in the 2010s. So there's that. And then this like blew up and became this whole thing. Now it's like an open investigation. Now it's like being investigated, which is crazy. And I just feel like people have always had like not great stories about Katy Perry.

Speaker 1:
[53:23] I agree with you. I was thinking of the text messages during the Kesha case. Was it between Lady Gaga and Kesha?

Speaker 3:
[53:30] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[53:31] Those were the first thing that came to mind. And honestly, when it comes to Ruby Rose, I really hope she's able to heal because it sounds like she had such a difficult time being in this industry and like every year she opens up more. So I hope that this is like another way to help her heal because it sounds like there's so much trauma in her life.

Speaker 3:
[53:54] I agree when you hear women in Hollywood just casually talk about how often or how many times they've been violated. Yeah, it is so crazy and it's so like. I don't know, it's just very eye opening. Like, it's just like, God, this is so common.

Speaker 1:
[54:15] Yeah, yeah, it's heartbreaking. And if if this is true, you know, I hope Katy Perry does get in trouble for this because you mentioned this when you you're Dunzo Christina Aguilera episode. I can still remember you being like, it's really strange when other industry people openly talk shit about someone in the industry. And I feel like Katy Perry is very that too.

Speaker 3:
[54:37] Yeah, like people have no problem sharing their experiences with her, which is crazy. So now this video has resurfaced as of like yesterday of her. It's an old Justin Bieber video of her, like basically sexually assaulting him on stage, like squeezing his butt and stuff and being like, sorry, Selena, like he's mine or whatever. So like now that's a thing that people are talking about. So two days ago, this is from TMZ. It says, Ruby Rose detailed night of alleged sexual assault in essay. It says, Ruby Rose's recent barrage of social media posts isn't the first time she's talked about the night Katy Perry allegedly sexually assaulted her. She wrote an essay about it in 2011, but said at the time that nothing bad happened that night. Back in 2011, the actress wrote an essay for news.com/australia. An Australian publication which seemingly referenced the same night that she's now saying Perry rubbed her disgusting vagina on her face. So she said, I spectacularly lost dignity in keys one night not too long ago. Remember when Katy Perry and I crashed the year 12 formal? That was the other weird thing about this is that they were at like a high school weird thing. Because now there's a video of it that's gone public where it's just like all these high school kids doing like the dougie or something. I don't fucking know. But she said, Remember when Katy Perry and I crashed the year 12 formal? I don't. I had been off the grog for 30 days, my first attempt at sobriety. And I was out partying with Katy Perry. What I do remember thinking was, I'll have a drink tonight. I deserve one. I mean, what's the worst that could happen? Well, not stopping at one drink or 10 and then vomiting on Katy Perry's foot was the answer. What was worse was I don't normally spew. I don't know why I just don't. So clearly the universe wanted to punish me. So she did throw up on Katy Perry, but it was because she was disgusted at the sexual assault, not because she was too drunk. This is the outlet says Rose wrote at the time that she lost her dignity one night while out with Perry and decided to drink just 30 days into her sobriety. There is a video of them out together that night. And it says the night spiraled out of control. Rose wrote, including a moment where the pair crashed a 12 year, 12 formal. And in the video, Katy's like singing while all these kids are dancing. I don't know why they went to a senior formal. I don't know what that was about. She wrote that she vomited on Perry's foot. And she also wrote, before you jump to conclusions, nothing horrific happened, nor have I been hit with a DUI. But I just had enough. And it had been one of the best decisions of my life. So her trying to like downplay it in the old essay.

Speaker 1:
[57:46] Wow.

Speaker 3:
[57:47] So what a crazy thing to resurface.

Speaker 1:
[57:50] Katy Perry, what is going on? Those nuns cursed her. All those old people that she's stolen Holmes from.

Speaker 3:
[57:58] Seriously, she's bad juju on her.

Speaker 1:
[58:01] Yeah, yeah, not good. And again, like fully like investigate this. And especially again, because so many people have talked shit about Katy Perry and said that she is awful.

Speaker 3:
[58:12] Yeah. Oh, God. You know, when a video resurfaces of you from 2011, it just can't be good. Whatever you're doing in that video is bad.

Speaker 1:
[58:23] 2011, not a good year for any of us.

Speaker 3:
[58:25] No.

Speaker 1:
[58:28] So TMZ has opened an office in DC and all they're doing is bothering politicians. And for the first time in my life, I'm like, should I try and work for TMZ?

Speaker 3:
[58:38] You should.

Speaker 1:
[58:39] I should. I would love nothing more than badgering people who work for us.

Speaker 3:
[58:46] You should be you should be on the TMZ floor with a big gulp or whatever.

Speaker 1:
[58:52] I do the TMZ tour bus but in DC. And I'm like, and over there is where.

Speaker 3:
[58:59] I don't know. So JFK and Marilyn Monroe made love right there on that lawn. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[59:05] I just love it. I love that they're bothering politicians. Do I still think TMZ is rotted? Duh. I think Harvey Levin is like the devil himself. But at least he's using his evil powers to bother other evil entities.

Speaker 3:
[59:20] Yeah. Where he belongs.

Speaker 1:
[59:21] Exactly.

Speaker 3:
[59:23] I wanted to talk for a second about the the Bravo lawsuit that Lea McSweeney has against Andy Cohen, because we got more details about it while we took a break. And I actually thought it was pretty interesting. So basically, Lea is like really leaning into the drug use of it all. The cocaine of it all, which is so crazy, like the cocaine thing and how it just has always been like the B plot of Bravo. Everybody at Bravo is on Coke and they do all this bad stuff. And like the Coke is the reason, but they can't say it, you know? Whether it's like Southern Charm or Vandermrump Rules or Andy himself or the Housewives. Like there's a whole entire clip of them at a Rooney reunion arguing about cocaine, which is insane. And Andy's just sitting there like the fucking Cheshire cat, like not able to say anything because he's the king of the alleged king of cocaine sitting there.

Speaker 1:
[60:25] He's the Scarface of Bravo.

Speaker 3:
[60:28] Right. Like he's a Tiffany's tray of Coke waiting in the back for him. So Leah is like really leaning into the cocaine usage and basically saying in this lawsuit that like Andy picks his favorites based on like who will do drugs with him. So who was willing to do cocaine with Andy Cohen? That's who Andy favors. And those are the people that have an easier time keeping their job because they'll party with him. And then she lists off all these people from all different Bravo shows from the Housewives to like the sideshows who have been affected by the fact that they won't party and how like Andy won't favor them because they don't want to partake in partying with him. And listen, I am obviously the biggest Bravo head. I don't ever want anything bad to happen to Bravo. And I don't know what I would do if one of these one of these 80 lawsuits against Andy actually did become something that disrupted the network. I'd be really sad that we like, whatever. But like, you can't be the kind of boss Andy Cohen is forever and never have anything happen to you. You just can't.

Speaker 1:
[61:40] Yeah, I agree with you. And I do think he's the executive producer of most of these shows, right?

Speaker 3:
[61:47] Um, now he's, it used to be now it's just mostly Housewives.

Speaker 1:
[61:52] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[61:52] Oh, hello.

Speaker 1:
[61:54] Give me electricity just went off.

Speaker 3:
[61:58] Hold on a second.

Speaker 1:
[62:00] And in order to see Troy working on fixing his light, you have to sign up for our video tier.

Speaker 3:
[62:07] Okay, I'm back. But now he mostly is just EP of Housewives.

Speaker 1:
[62:12] I just think that's inappropriate. I just I really think that's wrong. I get it. Bravo, you party and it's just it's basically every show is about partying. But there has to be some separation between who runs the show and like, obviously there's favoritism.

Speaker 3:
[62:27] Yeah, I mean, I think that's pretty clear.

Speaker 1:
[62:30] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[62:31] Yeah, I just I feel like in all these people have tried to like come for Andy and it never sticks. And eventually it's like, you know, if you're somebody like NeNe Leakes, you end up just kissing the ring because you want to fucking job and you want to work. But it feels like Lea, her little crazy ass is the one that's willing to go the distance on Andy, you know?

Speaker 1:
[62:51] Mm hmm. It'll be interesting. I'm so interested to see how this plays out.

Speaker 3:
[62:55] Me too. And it's going to be public.

Speaker 1:
[62:57] So so Troy will be outside the courtroom with a little mic waiting.

Speaker 3:
[63:03] If there's one courtroom that I'm down to be outside of, it is definitely this one.

Speaker 1:
[63:07] So Zayn and Louie, there is an update on their Netflix show. And I remember we talked about it getting pulled, but we didn't know why. This is from TMZ. Sorry, One Direction fans, a reunion seems ever less likely to happen because a new report claims Zayn Malik slugged Louie Tomlinson. The Sun laid out the alleged altercation in an article posted late Friday, claiming the fight went down during the filming of a new Netflix reality show, which was supposed to focus on the pair bonding on a road trip. The outlet says sources told them the fight was triggered when Zayn made a crack about Tomlinson's mom, who died of cancer in 2016, not the kind of quip friendships usually come back from. Louie allegedly took a step towards Zayn, who sources then told The Sun punched Louie right in the face. Zayn was allegedly wearing rings, and he cut his former bandmate's head, drawing blood and concussing him. The incident took place about six months ago, and The Sun claims the two haven't spoken since. What a band that just has way too much trauma attached to it. I think it's really sad, and this is something I saw with the One Tree Hill Girls, is when you think you can get past everything, and Liam passing away is so sad, and maybe they hope they could bond again. But I think sometimes when you go through that much trauma with someone, it's hard to separate them from that trauma, even if it's the best intentions. It's probably hard to put yourself back in that mind space or head space, even when you're like, you know what, I've worked through this, but sometimes when it's in your face, it's hard to ignore.

Speaker 3:
[64:52] Well, I think it's impossible to ignore it too when the band is, the foundation of the band is built on manipulation, lies, Simon Cowell. I mean, they're a, they're a manufactured band. Like from the moment they were put together, it was toxic.

Speaker 1:
[65:12] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[65:12] You know, exactly. They don't even have like a great foundation to lean on. It's like the whole house is dilapidated. It's really sad.

Speaker 1:
[65:23] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[65:23] It's really, really, really sad.

Speaker 1:
[65:26] And it sounds like this could have been something great for them, but unfortunately there's still too much animosity there.

Speaker 3:
[65:32] Well, my Zayn came out as bisexual.

Speaker 1:
[65:35] I saw that and thought of you immediately.

Speaker 3:
[65:38] I don't know if you... So now as somebody who already is on like One Direction fan edit internet, like my feed is insane because now all those videos are resurfacing of Zayn being bisexual on that stage with those boys. And I just, there's just something. So I think that there should be a documentary about One Direction girls wanting those boys to be queer. I just think that it's so like... I don't know why it's so funny to me. Like the girls are so horny for them being affectionate and stuff with each other. So now that's my whole TikTok is like story of my life background songs of Zayn like kissing Harry and shit on stage.

Speaker 1:
[66:30] Time for you to get on Raya and find Zayn.

Speaker 3:
[66:33] I know. It's like finally, finally Zayn, we can be together.

Speaker 1:
[66:38] No more Gigi in our way.

Speaker 3:
[66:41] No more Gigi, Bella, Anwar. Kyle Cook was paparazzi'd out with Meghan King from the Real House in New York County. And I just like, I am like, what is going on? They were at Temple in New York, and I just don't have words for any of us.

Speaker 1:
[67:09] Seeing little petite toxic Prince Kyle Cook put his hands on her shoulders to lift himself to smooch her. I was like, this is too much. And also, they left the Page Six party. It was a Page Six exclusive. I'm like, anyone with eyes can kind of see what's going on.

Speaker 3:
[67:27] Yeah, like this is just, these Bravo people are so funny with their pap walks and stuff and like calling the paparazzi. And it's just so funny because they operate like eight listers, but they're not, you know, and none of them are like media trained unless that's just the job like watching West like a fucking idiot trying to navigate. You know, literally try and navigate like a celebrity scandal is so funny because they're not celebrities, you know what I mean? But yeah, the pictures are funny, Kyle so much tinier than her. Not that that bothers me, I don't care about that. I'm pro Short Kings, but it is funny like watching him like use her body to be like.

Speaker 1:
[68:27] Oh, my God, I was dying and Blair was like, you don't even know the lore of Meghan King, and she's like, I don't know. She's like, I have to like sit you down and truly give you a lesson on this woman.

Speaker 3:
[68:39] It's true. It is really there is the lore is luring. That's all I can say. So yeah, you got to got to get back into the OC bag.

Speaker 1:
[68:48] Well, I also want to say Chappell Roan did not attack a child. Like I said, I knew someone called me what? The biggest Chappell Roan apologist of all time. I was like, I don't even like her.

Speaker 3:
[68:59] I know you don't even like her music. I'm like, don't.

Speaker 1:
[69:01] I'm like, I just don't think she tried to beat a child.

Speaker 3:
[69:04] You've like never been nice about her. That's why that was such a funny comment.

Speaker 1:
[69:09] No, typically I get yelled at for being too mean to Chappell Roan.

Speaker 3:
[69:12] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[69:14] But yeah, she that soccer player came out and said like he spoke to Chappell. Chappell said, that's not my bodyguard. And she apologized for the whole situation. But of course, no one's reporting on it, because it makes her look good. So justice for Chappell Roan. And she didn't say, she didn't say, behead her.

Speaker 3:
[69:32] Well, nobody. Now the thing is people don't believe it. They think that she paid him to say it and to take the fall. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[69:40] Oh, my God. It's like.

Speaker 3:
[69:44] That's why I'm like, Slater, girl, enjoy these people while you can. Because they'll want your head cut off in like a week because you did whatever.

Speaker 1:
[69:54] Yeah. So yeah, Chappell Roan. That wasn't her bodyguard. And that's the end of it. Period.

Speaker 3:
[70:02] And you can just say that you just don't like her. You don't have to wait for a scandal to happen to jump on a bandwagon to have a thought. You can just say, I just don't like her. It's not it's okay.

Speaker 1:
[70:15] I have like the opposite effect when everyone's piling on someone. I'm like, maybe they're not that bad.

Speaker 3:
[70:20] No, I am the same. That's why people find us so frustrating because they want us to join in. And during those times, we don't typically because it's like, I don't know. I feel like if you follow these stories enough, you can see above it rather than being in the weeds with it. And I can see when there's like a manipulation happening or happening or like a forced media narrative is like happening. It's very clear.

Speaker 1:
[70:44] We're like, we actually love Priyanka now and we're in love, so.

Speaker 3:
[70:48] They are in love and how dare you. I just wanted to give a shout out to one of my favorite podcasts, Infamous, did a Mormon scams episode. So they talked about Jen Shaw and they talked about the Mormon wives. It was a Mormon reality TV extravaganza and I love Infamous. It's a really good podcast and yeah, I just wanted to give a shout out to them and you should listen. Everybody should listen. It was really good.

Speaker 1:
[71:22] I wanted to give a shout out to the Love Trapped podcast. It's number one, so I'm sure you guys have seen it, but it's all about this woman who has like kind of trapped men over and over, saying she's having their babies and she'll like have fake sonograms and she did it to Clayton who was the bachelor. I don't know like anything about this man other than what I've learned from this podcast, but Blair's been obsessed with this case for like years, so I've heard about it. Basically she gave Clayton a blowjob and then said she was pregnant with his baby and everyone else has just kind of like paid her to go away and like hasn't brought her to court until Clayton did, so she's done this to like multiple men. So this podcast, Love Trapped, I just had to give it a shout out here because it is so well done and it's also just like so crazy. It's such a crazy scenario and I think this woman would have like continued to do this if not for Clayton, who I don't think people like very much from what I've heard.

Speaker 3:
[72:29] No, he's one of the yeah, he's not great, but that will be such a good concept for a movie.

Speaker 1:
[72:36] Yeah, I'm sure I can't wait for like the 2020 and the eventual Lifetime movie. I'm ready.

Speaker 3:
[72:43] Oh, I love that. I hate that, but I love it. American Horror Story is bringing back our evil queen, Emma Roberts for season 13. I haven't watched American Horror Story in a few years. I think a lot of people have fallen off of American Horror Story. It's sad to have watched a show that was so great at one point, just become such a shell of itself. And I think it's smart for Ryan Murphy to lean into the nostalgia. It's like when all else fails, go back to Coven. It's so funny. Like, we've done this now twice. It's like we're doing it again. Coven's back. And listen, it's smart because it would get me to watch. Like, I will watch American Horror Story again if we're getting a Coven, another Coven season. But we do need Jessica Lange. I just need for Jessica to agree one more time. We need Jessica. We need Angela Bassett. We need Kathy Bates. We need all the girls. Sarah, Emma, Tysa, Gabare, all of the girls. I need literally everybody back. Just one time will be really cool. Hi, this is Donnie. Troy has been updated and is aware that Angela Bassett, Jessica Lange, and Sarah Paulson will all be in this upcoming season. But yeah, we got a little video of Emma as her coven character. I was like, Oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[74:13] I know that Ryan Murphy loves like his Lea Michele work, but I do think Emma is his true like prize.

Speaker 3:
[74:20] I do too. Yeah. And I think he's secret. It's like he knows, but it's like she's not the one that he parades around.

Speaker 1:
[74:27] He's like, we can't just bring her out. You don't get it. She has to bring her doll.

Speaker 3:
[74:31] That's a whole thing. But she is his muse. She's been in like everything he's done in the past however many years. Like, I agree with you.

Speaker 1:
[74:42] So Aaron Carter's mom, Jane Carter, is trying to raise money to get him a star on the Walk of Fame. She said she just needs $80,000 through a GoFundMe, and then Aaron can have his star on the Walk of Fame. I know our listeners are smart enough to not donate. Please don't donate to anything Jane Carter puts together. Jane Carter is one of the nastiest, grossest, low life people, like parents, parent stars, like she's just so, not parent stars, what am I trying to say?

Speaker 3:
[75:20] Your face as you were saying that was like, you knew it was wrong, but you were like, that was so funny.

Speaker 1:
[75:28] She's just a nightmare. She's a nightmare human. And I hope when they do eventually talk about like, these momagers that are really nasty, not Ashanti's mom, not talking about her, talking about Jane, I hope they just focus on Bob and Jane Carter for like 45 minutes.

Speaker 3:
[75:44] They fucking deserve it. My god. This woman, by the way, is also never held accountable for anything. Like she never gets interviewed by people. She's never featured. Like she's talked about in the docs, but she's never there to like have to sit there with a hot light on her and answer questions ever.

Speaker 1:
[76:02] I mean, one of our very first posts on Beyond The Blinds Instagram, because Troy and I used to be on Aaron Carter's lives for like three hours. And we screen recorded him being like, Lou Pearlman. I didn't date Lou Pearlman and Jane in the background going, that was Nick. And that should tell you everything you need to know about Jane.

Speaker 3:
[76:22] She's so fucking treacherous and evil. Truly the definition of somebody that just had children to work them.

Speaker 1:
[76:28] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3:
[76:31] And the ones that didn't work just didn't exist. They just were feral and alone.

Speaker 1:
[76:36] Right.

Speaker 4:
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Speaker 3:
[77:13] Euphoria is back.

Speaker 1:
[77:15] Haven't watched, can't lie.

Speaker 3:
[77:18] I watched last night and I'm going to be honest, I enjoyed it. Like people are being really negative about Euphoria right now for fair reasons. You know, what a toxic show. But and I would went into it being like, oh, I'm going to hate this. It's going to be awful. Everybody said it was so bad. Blah, blah, blah. I enjoyed it. I thought it was like, first of all, I forgot how beautifully shot Euphoria is. Like I forgot how much of a visual spectacle it is. And that it just like looks like a big ass, expensive music video. Sometimes it was, to me, I'm one episode behind. I haven't watched the newest one. But the first two episodes were just simply visually, I thought really stunning. And yeah, like, I don't know. I just didn't think it was as bad as everybody else said. It's totally different show. It's nothing at all, really narrative wise, what it was before, because they're not in high school anymore. Right. So we have completely moved on from what Euphoria used to be. And I know that that bothers a lot of people because they like the high school setting. But I didn't mind it. Like, I didn't mind that we went on, like, we're on, like, this journey with Rue also. Not to make this the holes and die episode, but like, oh, my God, she is so fucking good. And I'm sorry. She is that character. She is Rue. When she plays Rue, I literally do not see her. I see Rue. Like, that's her. That is like she is so at this point, like, lived in with that character. She's just, she carries. Like, I just think that Zendaya is just so fucking talented. Now, I will say, when you watch, I will be eager to talk about this with you. I've always felt like Euphoria is fetish content.

Speaker 1:
[79:24] Okay. Yeah. I mean, even with that one character doing BDSM.

Speaker 3:
[79:30] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[79:30] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[79:31] I think it's like very clearly fetish content. And sometimes it goes really far. Like it goes really hardcore. Sometimes Sam Levinson, I think, can't contain himself. This season, the fetish content of it all is like outrageous. Like hearing, you're not going to know the context of any of this, but just like the gagging, the like hand gagging, especially with Faith, like them shoving the balloons down their throats and her gagging and her spit all over the place. The farting, the farting felt like fetish content. The dog thing felt like fetish content. All of Sydney Sweeney's scenes were not even trying to not be fetish content. At one point, she is fully dressed like a baby doing OnlyFans, with her legs spread open and her underwear pulled up into her vagina so you can literally see her vagina. And she's dressed like a baby wearing a pacifier and has pig tails, fetish content. Like, the second episode was hard core. It was like, wow. Like Sam Levinson must have like B-roll that he sells on the fucking dark web because this is like, why else would you be doing this? And also, Sidney Sweeney seems to be getting worse as an actor every year. Like every year that that woman is famous, she's a worse actor to the point that now it almost feels like she's doing a parody of Sidney Sweeney.

Speaker 1:
[81:20] So I have this theory about Sidney Sweeney and I'd love to know everyone's opinions and I'm sure you'll give them to me. I think Sidney Sweeney is going to leave Hollywood. I think she is getting all the money she can get right now and that's why she's doing all those terrible deals. That's why she's partnering with Bezos. That's why her acting is kind of taking a back seat because I think she's going to like disappear in a few years. Maybe not like three years, but I say within five years, Sidney Sweeney will be completely off the grid and she will have gotten her bag and sold her soul to do it, but I really don't think acting is her forever and she knows that and she doesn't want it to be.

Speaker 3:
[82:05] I think that there's something to that because I think it's really clear that she doesn't care about acting. It's painfully clear that none of this is serious to her and all the shit that we all get so bent out of shape about when it comes to her is funny to her because she literally doesn't give a fuck. She doesn't care about acting, she doesn't care about politics, she doesn't care how you feel about her, she's willing to exploit herself, she's willing to use her body in a way that feels beneath her. She's willing to do all those things no matter how we feel about it. Like you said, I think you're probably right. She's setting herself up to just not even be doing this soon, and maybe investing in behind the scenes stuff that just makes her money. But no, she doesn't fucking care about acting. She doesn't care. I think that at one point in her life, maybe she did, but I would even say by the time she got to like, Madame Web, it was just kind of like, I'm just doing this and I'm going to get hired. I don't have to try. And yeah, and it's fine. And my movies will make a decent enough amount of money. It is what it is. Like, I don't think she cares at all.

Speaker 1:
[83:30] Yeah, fully agree. What I care about when it comes to euphoria, because I've never enjoyed euphoria. I watched the first season and a half, and I was kind of like, I get why people like it. It's not really for me so much. I really like the drama surrounding euphoria. Like, I like that Zendaya showed up to the premiere, took some photos, and left. And in all, like, the cast photos, she's not even in them. Like, I'm ready for that to come out instead of whatever the season is. Like, I'm ready for the Sam Levinson exposure.

Speaker 3:
[84:01] We need it. Jesus Christ, do we need it, because that man, God, he's a piece of shit. Like, God, he is awful. And he, like, just can't get out of his own way. Like, he can't help but, like, turn his projects into fetish, his own fetish content. Yeah, like, he's just one of those guys. And I will also say, Labyrinth's music is missed. My God, it is... The show, I did not realize how much it relied on the music for just, like, the tone and to move it along and, like, structurally, like, the music does so much. And, God, without Labyrinth, it's, like, it's mostly quiet. It's, like, mostly silent. And it's just really weird. Like, it's really, really obvious that it's missing. You can just tell. So that part of it's weird. But I've enjoyed, like, seeing everybody again. I know that people have not been super into, like, the writing. I think, to me, it feels the same that it's always felt, if I'm being honest. I, like, I just, it just feels like euphoria. But I have enjoyed it. I will say that I've actually enjoyed the newer episodes.

Speaker 1:
[85:25] So Lena Dunham recently released a book, and she confirmed the Lord Jack Lena slideshow. And that's all I'm going to say, because we will talk more about it soon. Wink, wink.

Speaker 3:
[85:39] Yeah, I won't add to it either. I'm reading the book. I'm loving it. I can't put it down. I'm obviously listening to it on audio, of course. Audible, can you just fucking sponsor us?

Speaker 1:
[85:53] I know.

Speaker 3:
[85:53] Come on, like, oh my god. Hello.

Speaker 1:
[85:58] Also, I just need to say, I meant I'm like, it finally came to my head. A stage mother is what the word I was looking for, for Jane Carter, just so everyone knows it. Finally, not not parent star. That is not what I like.

Speaker 3:
[86:11] I want to be a parent star better. I'm going to start saying that. We found out yesterday that Taylor Frankie Paul will face no charges after the domestic violence investigation. And everybody, of course, is breaking their silence on it. All the Mormon wives are breaking their silence. Um, so first we have, let me just get through Us Weekly's pop-ups. So first we have Dakota has broken his silence. So it says, in an Instagram post shared in the early hours of Monday, April 20th, Dakota spoke about the attention that he has received since the news broke on March 16th that he and Taylor allegedly had been involved in a dispute that halted season five production of the show, blah, blah, blah. So he said, over the past several weeks, I've taken a step back in that time away from the chaos. That space has been a breath of fresh air and has given me clarity. My focus now is where it should have been all along on my son and creating a stable, healthy environment for him moving forward. Dakota wrote, Us Weekly, Dakota wrote in black text.

Speaker 1:
[87:26] On a white, black background.

Speaker 2:
[87:28] Why would you add that?

Speaker 3:
[87:30] Dakota wrote in black text against a white background. The pair who shared a son ever to engage in tumultuous romance from July 2022 until December of 2024. Dakota's post continued, I regret not stepping away from the difficult cycle sooner. I'm not perfect and I take accountability for my part. I'm sincerely sorry to those who I've heard. At the same time, I don't agree with how this situation has been portrayed publicly. It does not reflect the full context of what occurred or the impact that it had on me and my son. Yeah, so that was pretty much his full statement. What did you think when you heard the news?

Speaker 1:
[88:13] I think they all just need to take a break from the public eye, if I'm being honest. I'm glad that Taylor was able to speak her truth. The photos that Dakota posted, I don't think did him many favors, if I'm being honest. I think a lot of people thought like his bloody nose look like ketchup and people are really like picking apart everything. But I think what would be best for Taylor and Dakota, obviously separate, but also really take some space away from the public eye. And I don't know if that's what's going to happen. I'm going to assume now the bachelorette season will come out since she's been found not guilty on everything. It wouldn't shock me if maybe they just put it on Hulu instead of ABC. Nothing's come out about that. But I think all the Mormon wives and husbands need to take a little bit of a break. They've done four seasons in less than two years, I think, which is fucking crazy.

Speaker 3:
[89:07] Yeah, it's so this is so wild to be on this side of things because it's like back in the day, you know, you look at like early 2010s reality stars and stuff and like they didn't have the opportunities that like the influencer era reality stars had. Right. And then you get into like the Vanderpump rules era. And I would almost say that that's like the golden age of reality people being able to use their platform to make money in different ways and to write books and do all these different things. And now it's the other extreme where they they burn out immediately like the show is on for a week and they are influencing out the ass selling as much product as possible being hired for crazy jobs like they it's like the total extreme. And I agree with you. I feel like they need to just they need a moment. It's like just don't be on the Internet. Don't be posting cryptic mom talk shit like just, you know.

Speaker 1:
[90:09] Yeah, I think everyone needs a break from each other. Everyone needs a break from the cameras. I give them a lot. I give the other moms a lot of credit for being like, we need cameras down right now. You know, we need to actually figure out what's going on. And even Jessie is out a lot with Marciano now, and she's posting things like you're seeing me having fun. You're not seeing the breakdowns and everything. And I'm like, maybe we shouldn't see anything for a little bit. Maybe it's just like, take a take a step back. And I'm sure that's hard, too, because I know what it's like to get dopamine from likes. You know, I've had to like untrain my brain from seeing that and being like, oh, yeah, I matter. And I think they all need to kind of unlearn that so they can feel better.

Speaker 3:
[90:51] Well, to be fair, I'm going to read Taylor's response as well. OK, because Taylor posted some photos of herself on her Instagram, just like looking really thin and like not well. And she said, here come the ugly parts of what healing actually looks like. If you know me, you know, I'll admit my parts, flaws, and faults. I'm well aware that that's a part of it. We'll get there. This public atrocity that I not only lived through once but twice on even a bigger scale was ultimately the cost of my freedom. I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy or even the ones who publicized it. I cried on my knees in pain while also saying thank you. We have a road ahead, but regardless, I'm forever freed from a certain living hell I couldn't find my way out of. Metaphorically, someone witnessed me bleeding out and poured salt all over me. Somehow, I'm still here. As we can see barely because I believe God held me through and sent help plus an army, which makes me cry because thank you to all of you that have supported me even without full context. God undoubtedly had a hand in this because after waiting seven weeks on the seventh day, exactly, I received the call that all charges were dropped. Those are his numbers symbolic for his plan, which I'm nervous to see what's in store. Steps moving forward are the very basics. We're working on eating, movement, rest, and retraining the nervous system. I'll be sharing the process because if my worst is shared, better bet, I'll share the rebuilding too.

Speaker 1:
[92:31] I'm assuming a book is coming, right?

Speaker 3:
[92:33] It feels like these are the stages of a book.

Speaker 1:
[92:37] Or a podcast.

Speaker 3:
[92:38] Mm-hmm. Oh, God, please, please, I can't.

Speaker 1:
[92:42] I was going to say, it must be hard to be so addicted to the limelight. And I feel like when it comes to Taylor and Dakota, they're so addicted to that toxicity that whether people are talking badly about you or talking good about you, at least they're talking about you. So, yeah, I just, I hope Taylor is able to heal, and I hope Dakota gets help, and I hope that their kids are safe.

Speaker 3:
[93:07] I agree with all of that. And please don't start a podcast.

Speaker 1:
[93:16] I know people like you don't start a podcast.

Speaker 3:
[93:19] Yeah, seriously, stay away.

Speaker 1:
[93:22] So the singer David was finally arrested in slaying the 14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez, and this is from KTLA. The Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office on Monday revealed unsettling allegations in the first degree murder case, singer David for the death of 14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez, whose body was found last year inside the front trunk of the performer's Tesla. Quote, Celeste was just a child under 14-years-old when David Burke allegedly engaged in repeated lewd sexual relations with her DA, Nathan Hotchman said at a news conference. But Burke's actions did not allegedly stop there. When she threatened to expose his criminal conduct and devastate his musical career, Burke allegedly murdered her, cut up her body and stuffed her body in two bags that were placed in the front trunk of his car. The teen's body sat inside the trunk for over four months before she was discovered in a tow yard on September 8th of last year. This horrific and gruesome murder committed by the charged sexual predator is shocking and appalling. To Celeste's loved ones, we will get the justice you seek and deserve. So yeah, I'm happy that he is finally arrested. I'm also like, this is going to sound fucked up, but I'm glad they're finally highlighting she was 14 when she was killed. Because when they found her body, they kept saying 15, which is still extremely young. But I do think saying her actual age is really important.

Speaker 3:
[95:01] God, Jesus, what a crazy, horrific story. And we moved on from that way too fast as a culture. I mean, I guess that's just how the new cycle is. But God, that was like so insane.

Speaker 1:
[95:16] Yeah. And I'm glad he wasn't able to run. I'm glad he didn't take his life. And I'm glad he's getting like tried. And hopefully justice will be served correctly.

Speaker 3:
[95:25] But I'm glad he's getting like, complete, like couldn't be less, more opposite of a story. Lisa Hochstein from The Real Housewives of Miami, if you hadn't heard, was arrested for spying, which I'm obsessed with this. If you watch this show, it's like this makes so much sense that Lisa would do this to Lenny, who she's just so like, I can just hear it. Like I can hear it in my head, like everything that took place. So basically she hid, oh, I'll read the, I'll read the. So it says, she turned herself into authorities in Miami and it's all tied to a felony charge accusing her of spying on her ex Lenny. Her attorney told TMZ the surrender is voluntary and part of a prearranged agreement following the charge filed earlier this week, insisting her client has nothing to hide as the legal process plays out. So according to docs obtained by TMZ, Lisa unlawfully and intentionally intercepted or tried to intercept wire, oral or electronic communication involving Lenny and others that he spoke with. The charges seem to stem from a March 2023 incident, notably just a couple months before. Reports surfaced claiming that Lenny accused Lisa of planting a listening device under his car to monitor his phone calls. Lenny pulled the plug on their 12 year marriage in May of 2022, filing for divorce from Lisa, which spiraled into a bitter war. The situation gets even messier. Lisa's ex-boyfriend Jodi is facing the same charge and was already taken into custody in Florida over the weekend while Lisa had a warrant out before turning herself in. Her turning herself in was the most housewife shit. She showed up in full glam. It was so, it literally tickled me. It floated me off the ground seeing her in high horror drag showing up to the police station, waving at the cameras like she's Elizabeth Taylor. It was amazing.

Speaker 1:
[97:38] Yeah, it was quite a housewife walk, I have to say.

Speaker 3:
[97:44] It was very real housewives.

Speaker 1:
[97:47] And of course, they just put cameras down on Miami. It's like put them back up.

Speaker 3:
[97:51] This always happens. This always happens. It's what they get.

Speaker 1:
[97:57] Well, I just checked TMZ because I didn't have anything left to talk about. But Kylie Jenner's former housekeeper staff bullied and discriminated against me in a new lawsuit filed.

Speaker 3:
[98:08] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[98:09] Kylie Jenner just wrapped up two weekends of partying at Coachella and has returned to a lawsuit from a former housekeeper who claims she was subject to discrimination over religion and national origin. According to the legal docs filed last week in Los Angeles by Angela Vasquez and obtained by TMZ, Angelica claims she started working for Kylie as a housekeeper at her Beverly Hills residence on September 10th of 2024 and then was moved to her Hidden Hills residence one week later, where she says she reported to a woman named Elsie and head housekeeper Patsy. Angelica claims she was treated with hostility and exclusion as soon as she began her employment and was subjected to severe and pervasive harassment by Patsy, Elsie and other staff members. Specifically, she alleges she was belittled and humiliated in front of co-workers due to her race, national origin and religious beliefs. Angelica who says she is Salvadorian and Catholic claims she was told Catholics are horrible people and was mocked or intimidated about her immigration status. She also claims comments were made to her that allude to people of her background being deported from America. In addition to the alleged bullying, Angelica claims she was assigned the worst tasks purposely excluded from the housekeeping team and had fingers snapped at her and was shouted at routinely. She even claims a supervisor threw hangers at her while reprimanding her on one occasion after she complained about the treatment. Angelica alleges she developed anxiety and symptoms consistent with PTSD due to the work conditions, which got her bullied further and says she eventually had to resign in August of 2024 when she says her complaints went unaddressed. Angelica is seeking damages for unpaid wages, emotional distress, and more. Plus, she wants damages. Sources familiar with Kylie's household tell TMZ the plaintiff was a junior housekeeping employee who had attendance issues among other workplace concerns. Notably, none of these allegations seem directly targeted at Kylie. More so, her staff and her failure to address complaints and concerns. Um, okay, so that was kind of a misleading headline.

Speaker 3:
[100:26] I'm a little confused.

Speaker 1:
[100:27] So apparently, this woman, Angelica, was made fun of for being Catholic and Salvadorian. But Kylie Jenner kind of has nothing to do with it. But it's Kylie's staff that was being rude to her.

Speaker 3:
[100:41] So the staff is infighting with each other.

Speaker 1:
[100:44] Yeah, so and it sounds like maybe Angelica tried to talk to Kylie and Kylie blew her off, allegedly, maybe.

Speaker 3:
[100:50] Okay. Wow. I definitely thought you were about to read that Kylie was like throwing hangers at her house.

Speaker 1:
[100:55] Me too.

Speaker 3:
[100:56] But okay, so there there she's like fighting with her, her staff and team about okay.

Speaker 1:
[101:03] TMZ, you got me with that headline. Good clickbait. Good one.

Speaker 3:
[101:07] That would be a good Bravo show.

Speaker 1:
[101:09] Oh, Mike, could you imagine?

Speaker 3:
[101:11] Like the staff of wealthy people?

Speaker 1:
[101:14] Incredible.

Speaker 3:
[101:15] Like below deck, but just like in a mansion. I don't really have a lot to say about this. I just wanted to add that I was really sad to see what has been going on with Natasha Lyonne the past couple weeks. It just like broke my heart. Like it made me really sad seeing her break her sobriety. And that red carpet was tough, man. That was like, you know, that was tough. And like, she's just always been such like an inspiring person to me. Like I've just always really loved her. And like, I love how open she is about her sobriety journey and like how bad her addiction really was. And also, you know, relapsing is also part of the journey. And it's like, I'm not like judging her, but it made me sad. It made me feel really bad.

Speaker 1:
[102:09] It must be hard to do that in such a public platform.

Speaker 3:
[102:12] Yeah. To just have like a little slip up moment and and then she like was with that weird. She was with like a really seedy looking guy that was like, oh, that's not good. A man that looks like that is like you're not in for a good night with that one.

Speaker 1:
[102:28] Yeah. So we're thinking of you, Natasha.

Speaker 3:
[102:31] Yeah. Madonna Confessions 2 was coming. We will be on the lookout. We will be listening. I think that they should do. I really want a documentary about Madonna's first Coachella set. And I think it would be like the perfect time for somebody to make it and release it. For people who don't know about just like how important Madonna is to Coachella. That was the other thing that pissed me off was like, it's like not only is Madonna on stage, but like, I know none of those people understand that Madonna invented that festival basically. Like she's the reason that somebody like Sabrina Carpenter would be performing. So it's like, you know, I wanted to kill every person. I was like so fucking mad. But yeah, I think that's all I had.

Speaker 1:
[103:24] Well, someone else we are thinking of this week, our editor, Donny, he was recently diagnosed with MS He is doing well, though, and he's looking for a network. He's looking for people who have MS, know people with MS I know insurance isn't exactly being kind. So if you have any experience with MS or insurance or whatever, please reach out to Donny, our editor. He's incredible. We love him very much. And we're always rooting for you, Donny.

Speaker 3:
[103:54] And if you feel more comfortable sending it to us, you can and we can we'll send it. Whatever is easier.

Speaker 1:
[103:59] Yeah, definitely. But I know that people love community and he's kind of looking for that right now. And I asked him if we could share it and he said, please.

Speaker 3:
[104:07] So, yeah, we love you, Donny.

Speaker 1:
[104:10] We do. You make our show better. So thank you very much. And thank you guys for listening. And again, thank you for all the well wishes. I really appreciated it. And yeah, just thank you for being understanding that sometime life happens when you have to get surgery.

Speaker 3:
[104:24] Right. Yeah. Especially when it's not cosmetic.

Speaker 1:
[104:29] Could you imagine I show up with like a nose job? I'm like, but my finger.

Speaker 3:
[104:35] You had like a Lindsay Lohan facelift. You're like, I can now bend my finger. I wanted to say thank you to everybody for the birthday wishes and all the DMs and everything. That was like very sweet. I was very anti my birthday this year, but that made me feel good.

Speaker 1:
[104:53] But yeah, guys, sorry, I was on like crack cocaine drinking a Celsius during this. And I'll never forget stage mom again. I'll never forget that word.

Speaker 3:
[105:01] What was what was the thing you said?

Speaker 1:
[105:03] I said Parrot Star.

Speaker 3:
[105:07] I'm obsessed. We love you very much. We missed you.

Speaker 1:
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