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Speaker 1:
[00:11] In person, is this our first in person in my studio?

Speaker 2:
[00:15] No, I mean, not, definitely not ever, but since Stassi with Tay.

Speaker 1:
[00:20] Yeah, since the rebrand.

Speaker 2:
[00:22] I feel like we did one.

Speaker 3:
[00:23] Did we?

Speaker 2:
[00:24] Just a one.

Speaker 1:
[00:25] Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:
[00:25] And then we were a person in New York.

Speaker 1:
[00:27] Lucky number two.

Speaker 2:
[00:28] Yeah, but here we go. I mean, we're so goddamn good at our jobs.

Speaker 1:
[00:33] Are we?

Speaker 2:
[00:34] Oh my God, yes. But we like, we're so good remote too.

Speaker 1:
[00:38] You know what, sometimes I feel like I'm not really great at my job, but I'm good enough.

Speaker 2:
[00:43] Okay. Well, first of all, you have many talents.

Speaker 1:
[00:45] That's all that matters, that I'm good enough.

Speaker 2:
[00:47] You have many talents. Also, you're like OG podcaster. And as I will never let people forget, I am the OG radio host. So listen, it's so second nature to us now, we just don't even know.

Speaker 1:
[01:00] That's true.

Speaker 2:
[01:00] It's like breathing.

Speaker 1:
[01:01] That's true. I need to acknowledge right now though, that like you are a tanned queen. It looks like you just got back from Ibiza with Bo, actually.

Speaker 2:
[01:10] Bo and I are both tanned.

Speaker 1:
[01:11] Bo and Tay got spray tanned yesterday.

Speaker 2:
[01:14] We went on a lovers trip together.

Speaker 1:
[01:15] And me and Teddy are getting sprayed tonight. But I have been, I'm in my shedding phase. So like when I want to look beautiful for something, I have to be ugly for a few weeks.

Speaker 2:
[01:28] I understand.

Speaker 1:
[01:28] And so like even when I was in New York last, in fact, the previous New York trip was the last time I tanned and I had just put some tanner on myself. It wasn't even a proper spray tan. So for a month now, I have been just scraping my body in the shower, like not a tan in sight. And I've just been really marinating in my ugliness, pastiness and my pastiness. And that's why I look the way that I look. My foundation, the lightest color that I have doesn't even match the color of my skin. But I also realize, so I'm going to get spray tan tonight. I'm going to leave the cocoon tomorrow. Wednesday, I'll really shine. And I'm going to look gorgeous and bronze, whoever. I realized that I did a major fuck up with my shedding period.

Speaker 2:
[02:21] What did you do?

Speaker 1:
[02:21] Normally, when I do this, it's also when I schedule my Botox. Whenever the seasons change.

Speaker 2:
[02:29] You know me, Botox is my religion. Botox is my family.

Speaker 1:
[02:33] I can't believe I forgot this. So I don't know if I'm going to reemerge as beautiful as I possibly could be because I forgot to get Botox. So I've just been sitting in my ugliness.

Speaker 2:
[02:44] Raise your eyebrows.

Speaker 1:
[02:46] What?

Speaker 2:
[02:46] Just raise your eyebrows. No, exactly. No, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, my dad is Mr. Botox, okay? Dr. Strecker is Mr. Botox. I've been getting it since I was 18. I know everything about Botox. It's when you're resting, if you can see the lines, that's when you endanger a girl. But right now, it's just natural. Raise them again. It's minimum, it's minimum. You're okay. You're not like, you're not.

Speaker 1:
[03:11] Yeah, but I did all of this to be perfect and flawless. Sitting in my ugliness.

Speaker 2:
[03:15] I know.

Speaker 1:
[03:16] To...

Speaker 2:
[03:17] Listen.

Speaker 1:
[03:19] How could I be so dumb?

Speaker 2:
[03:19] Stars are just like us.

Speaker 1:
[03:21] How could, like, you know, I need my Nefertiti neck lift, I need my Barbie talks, like what's wrong with me that I completely forgot? And I had a wide open Friday.

Speaker 2:
[03:30] You really blew it.

Speaker 1:
[03:31] I really did.

Speaker 4:
[03:32] And I'm just like, am I okay?

Speaker 1:
[03:36] I'm short-circuiting. So I might not look as pretty as I thought I was gonna look.

Speaker 2:
[03:40] You're gonna look amazing. First of all, you actually look very good pasty. I think it's like the Victorian obsession within you. You look, you're a pretty pasty queen.

Speaker 1:
[03:49] Should I cancel my?

Speaker 2:
[03:50] No, no, no, no, no, never do that. That would be insane. That would be crazy, crazy, crazy. Plus for what you're wearing for Wednesday, you need a tan. That's bold. Pasty girls and colors do not go well together.

Speaker 1:
[04:01] I have been told that I need to wear more color.

Speaker 2:
[04:03] Yeah, who's telling you this?

Speaker 3:
[04:04] Everyone.

Speaker 2:
[04:05] It's very funky of you.

Speaker 3:
[04:06] Don't even dare.

Speaker 2:
[04:11] You know, I'm going to go back, though. I'm going to go back to being all classic. You can live in the land of color. No, no, no, no. Be Rainbow Bright. And I'm going to go back to Taylor's shit.

Speaker 1:
[04:21] No.

Speaker 2:
[04:21] Yes. We flip-flopped, girl.

Speaker 1:
[04:23] Why is everyone trying to change me? Can't I just live in my black and white outfits and just call it a day?

Speaker 2:
[04:29] You're not really one to give in to the peer pressure. So what's really going on here? Who's telling you?

Speaker 1:
[04:33] The people I respect.

Speaker 2:
[04:34] There you go. It ain't me. My funky ass. She'd be like, I don't want to be funky just yet. Oh, by the way, we discovered there's a new word. It's not funky. I'm playful. Because you were at a friend's birthday party. She turned 40 and I was like, oh my God, she looks like the outfit was outfitting. The legs were legging. And you were like, she's like you. And I said funky and you said no playful. I'm like, that's a great word.

Speaker 1:
[05:00] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[05:00] I can fuck with playful.

Speaker 1:
[05:02] We're gonna start using playful instead of funky, except it's just like really fun to say funky. So like, I actually don't think I can stick with it. I don't think I can give it up.

Speaker 2:
[05:09] I'm okay with it. Well, wait, I will say lately, I've just been like working with fashion brands, Le Gents, very ladylike, Tuckernuck, very preppy. That's like Nantucket. And so I'm like getting back into like my more like, like classic-y roots. And I feel like now everyone associates classic, like couture clothing with you. And I feel like now, like I wore this gorgeous Le Gents, like boat neck. It was fitted black. I wore like a black pan. I had like gold buttons. Gold buttons are mine. Okay. Gold buttons all the way down the front.

Speaker 1:
[05:41] Are they?

Speaker 2:
[05:42] Yeah. And yes, we're not talking about this. And I win this one. I will die on this hill.

Speaker 3:
[05:48] I didn't know they were, but-

Speaker 2:
[05:49] They are.

Speaker 3:
[05:50] Okay, fine. Take the gold buttons, you weirdo.

Speaker 2:
[05:54] But somebody was like, oh, not you trying to look like Stassi. And I was like, let's just, everyone settle down. And then I watched Villa in the very first episode when you guys arrived at the castle.

Speaker 1:
[06:03] Those were mother of pearl buttons.

Speaker 2:
[06:04] They were, but it's the same cut.

Speaker 1:
[06:08] Boat neck, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[06:10] So I want to be clear. I got this top before I even saw that outfit. Listen, we have similar sensibilities.

Speaker 1:
[06:15] We do. You're just a little funkier than I am.

Speaker 2:
[06:18] Anyway, wait, so the pastiness of it all. So we have the greatest spray tan. She's an artist.

Speaker 1:
[06:25] Yeah, shout out to Fabiola.

Speaker 2:
[06:27] Shout out to Fabiola. And so she...

Speaker 1:
[06:29] Yeah, no, did you see that on Giggly Squad? Paige was talking about how she got a spray tan in LA and it was like art. And I was like, did she get Fabiola?

Speaker 2:
[06:38] I did see the clip. And I was like, did she get her girl? Did you ask her?

Speaker 1:
[06:41] Well, no, then she went on to say whose name it was. And I'm like, that's so crazy. The way that Paige described her spray tan person that she had in LA is how we described Fabiola.

Speaker 2:
[06:50] It's so, she's so careful.

Speaker 1:
[06:52] She's an artist.

Speaker 2:
[06:52] She literally puts a washcloth here when she sprays so you don't get the bad chunky muddy markings. She's just, she's very intentional anyway.

Speaker 1:
[07:02] Leonardo da Vinci, Monet.

Speaker 2:
[07:04] Could never. No, couldn't. Literally, they're shaking. Fabiola is the queen. So she came over and I haven't seen her since we got back from LA and I was a tanned queen when I arrived.

Speaker 1:
[07:15] The whole time.

Speaker 2:
[07:16] The whole time. And so I never, and I kind of still held on to that summer tan even as we left. One of the spray tans, whatever, I'm not a scientist, but she saw me. And I think she didn't know who I was. She was like, Fabiola, nice to meet you. I'm joking. But I said, I'm so pasty and she was like, I've never seen you this pasty. And I was like, well, girl, we had a baby and then we didn't go like to St. Barts purguesh. So like this is just me and all my pasty glory. And she was like, this is very important to do right now. So wow, I know. I mean, listen, it's the truth. It's the truth. I am 75% better looking with a tan. I should never be not tan.

Speaker 1:
[07:56] It's just crazy. Cause everyone is. And it's really unfortunate because I follow all of these like pale, cool toned girlies that are stunning to try. Well, they're on like TikTok. So like, I don't know all their names. I can't.

Speaker 2:
[08:10] It's hard.

Speaker 1:
[08:11] But I'm just like, God, you guys are, there's like a handful of people out there that just like really make being pale just so gorge and elegant and just like mysterious and chic.

Speaker 2:
[08:26] It's not me.

Speaker 1:
[08:27] And I keep trying to make it me. And it can't, like my body looks weird. I can't wear shorts. I can't wear a skirt. Like it's, it's alarming. It doesn't, it's not like a pretty pale. Some people have a pretty paleness to them. I don't know. I'm just like too rosy.

Speaker 2:
[08:43] I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit. I think you're pretty good pale. I think you're even better tan. But like I'm like sick. I'm, I'm, I'm ill. I'm, I'm like, I'm like diseased when I'm not tan.

Speaker 1:
[08:54] Maybe because you're warm toned.

Speaker 2:
[08:57] I'm not good with this. Like I don't know the tones.

Speaker 1:
[09:00] Yeah, no worries.

Speaker 2:
[09:00] But like, but like Tay showed you my leg yesterday. And I feel like we have to have a discussion about that. Like she can't just go around showing people my pasty, like, like, like hairy German legs. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was embarrassed. Yeah, it's like, she really should have asked my consent. Like I felt like she was like showing, I would have rather you seen my legs than that. Like my legs are like for me, my untanned legs are for me and me only.

Speaker 1:
[09:26] It is, it is, yes.

Speaker 2:
[09:29] Vulnerable.

Speaker 1:
[09:29] Yes, 100%.

Speaker 2:
[09:31] So I just wanted to talk about that and it really, I'm hurt.

Speaker 1:
[09:33] Release it.

Speaker 2:
[09:35] I'm really hurt. I hope you still want to be my friend after you saw my shin guards. That's what we call the hair on my legs. They're like, they're German shin guards.

Speaker 1:
[09:43] I didn't know that it was a German thing.

Speaker 2:
[09:46] Yeah. Well, that's what Tay's decided it is.

Speaker 1:
[09:49] Well, you brought up a Vanderpump Villa and we should talk about it.

Speaker 2:
[09:54] So I did jump a little bit around because I happened to have inside information on certain things that were going down in the season. So I wanted to, before I came out here, see everything because obviously we're out here. Also, are we able to say what we're out here for by the time this drops?

Speaker 1:
[10:13] No.

Speaker 2:
[10:13] Got it.

Speaker 1:
[10:14] Cool. It's really annoying because this episode drops the day of the thing, but it won't have happened yet.

Speaker 2:
[10:21] Okay. So we'll recap it next week.

Speaker 1:
[10:23] Next week.

Speaker 2:
[10:24] But I'm so excited. That's why we're all bringing out our Sunday best.

Speaker 1:
[10:28] Yeah, we're trying to look hot.

Speaker 2:
[10:29] On a Wednesday. Also, it's a day event, brutal, hard, harsh lighting.

Speaker 1:
[10:34] It's harsh lighting, hard in terms of outfit because you don't want to be too dressed up because you're outside during the day. So like you got to, you know.

Speaker 2:
[10:43] I know. Also, are we like in grass?

Speaker 1:
[10:45] I think so.

Speaker 2:
[10:46] That's wild.

Speaker 1:
[10:46] Which is why I'm wearing my new Chloe jellies.

Speaker 2:
[10:50] I'm so jelly. But they, I'm jelly of the jelly. But they have like a little like kitten heel, right?

Speaker 1:
[10:55] Yeah, but it's thick enough to wear like, those shoes are meant for.

Speaker 2:
[10:59] I mean, I'm wearing a heel, just like, fuck it.

Speaker 1:
[11:01] That's, yeah, that's you.

Speaker 2:
[11:02] It's fine.

Speaker 1:
[11:02] You do you, funky funk.

Speaker 2:
[11:06] But anyway, I feel like there's gonna be like a lot of familiar-ish faces, so I'm excited about that. Like, I don't think I'm gonna feel weird.

Speaker 1:
[11:11] No, I'm so excited.

Speaker 2:
[11:14] Me too.

Speaker 1:
[11:14] I've been building for this day for a long time.

Speaker 2:
[11:18] Girl.

Speaker 1:
[11:18] It's three years in the making.

Speaker 2:
[11:20] Three years.

Speaker 1:
[11:21] Over three years, actually.

Speaker 2:
[11:23] Tay and I have been along for the journey every stepity step of the way. However, you have really done the Lord's work, and that needs to be known. You're a captain.

Speaker 1:
[11:34] I am. I am.

Speaker 2:
[11:36] You're coach.

Speaker 1:
[11:37] The general.

Speaker 2:
[11:38] Put me in.

Speaker 1:
[11:38] I am the general.

Speaker 2:
[11:39] You really are.

Speaker 1:
[11:40] I'm in charge. I don't give up on my people.

Speaker 2:
[11:42] Slaying dragons. You really don't. Everyone needs to know what a champion for the people Stassi is. You really are. Even to a point where I'm like, girl, we're good. Don't worry about it. But you really get like, you get offended for us. And I'm not even mad because I'm in a bath. Allegedly.

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Speaker 3:
[16:29] Something's wrong with me.

Speaker 1:
[16:30] The first moment was, it was after school. The kids got back from school or whatever, and it was me, Bo, the kids, we were around the table. Bo was building a Lego with Messer, me and Hartford were coloring or something. And I was like, oh my gosh, Hartford, do you want to see Huntrix? They performed at Coachella last weekend. And I just brought it up on YouTube. And I start, literally, I can't control myself. Crying? Yes, tears just keep coming. And I'm trying to hold it in. In my brain, I'm like, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. Why are you, what is wrong with you? And I kept trying to hide it. And then finally Bo looked at me and he's like, what is wrong with you? And I was like, I don't know, I just feel things deeply. And I can't explain it. I can't explain it.

Speaker 4:
[17:17] I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 2:
[17:19] She's like, what is this wetness on my face?

Speaker 1:
[17:21] No, this happens to me all the time. And then Hartford looks at me and she's like, you're crying? And I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, I'm not sad. I just like this performance is just making me feel a lot of things that I can't explain. And then so like I was able to, that went away. Then Hartford saw, this was yesterday before you guys got here, she saw on our screen that like her Hartford Spotify playlist had popped up. So it was like her as a baby. And so she's like, I want to play it. I'm like, sure. I haven't played this in years. I have no idea what's on there.

Speaker 3:
[17:54] I press play right now and it's.

Speaker 2:
[18:06] She's gonna, she's crying. Oh my god.

Speaker 1:
[18:08] It's the song from Dumbo, Baby Mine.

Speaker 3:
[18:17] And I literally fell to my knees.

Speaker 1:
[18:22] I like fell to my knees. I was like, oh my god, I haven't listened to this. Since you were a baby, I was like, I listened to this my whole pregnancy, like my whole pregnancy with Hartford. And I didn't listen to it with Messer.

Speaker 2:
[18:34] There's Oscar tears coming down to this right now. This is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[18:38] I was just like, oh my god, I was transported back to when I was pregnant with Hartford and going through not the easiest time.

Speaker 2:
[18:47] Fair.

Speaker 1:
[18:49] And listening to that song was one of the main things that just made me feel so in tuned with her and the pregnancy experience and being thankful for where I was at. Even though you might have looked at my life and been like, well, she's not thankful for anything. Her life's gone down the drain. I was just so thankful for Hartford and that I like...

Speaker 2:
[19:11] The things that you could have gratitude about, you did.

Speaker 1:
[19:13] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[19:13] So deeply.

Speaker 1:
[19:14] Yes. And I could not stop sobbing listening to this song. And I'm like, I need help. And I'm like, this is why I think I'm so cold with people.

Speaker 2:
[19:25] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[19:25] Because if I allow myself to feel anything at all, if I give an inch, my feelings take a mile.

Speaker 2:
[19:34] I'm not joking. You will drown in a puddle of your own tears.

Speaker 1:
[19:36] I will. That's why, you know, like when I get angry, I get angry really hard, really fast.

Speaker 2:
[19:41] You have big feels.

Speaker 1:
[19:41] I have big feelings and then I'm over it, or like I get excited about something and then it's like, you know what I mean? Then I'm like, okay, I mellow out. But like if I allow myself to feel any emotion, it takes over my body and I can't control it. And that's either psychotic or an empath.

Speaker 2:
[20:00] I think you are an empath.

Speaker 1:
[20:01] But that's not me. Me hearing Baby Mine isn't feeling for other people.

Speaker 2:
[20:05] It's feeling for yourself. Oh, oh, oh, you have empathy for you.

Speaker 1:
[20:08] Yeah, I had empathy for me.

Speaker 2:
[20:09] I got it, I got it. I got it. You're like, I have so much empathy for what I feel. What I'm feeling, I know I'm feeling. I get the crying with the songs. I, whenever I have a, But like, Huntrix?

Speaker 1:
[20:27] But why the hell was I crying over Huntrix?

Speaker 2:
[20:30] What's a Huntrix?

Speaker 3:
[20:30] At Coachella with Cat's Eye. K-pop Demon Hunters.

Speaker 2:
[20:35] Oh, got it, got it, got it. I thought their name was K-pop Demon Hunters.

Speaker 3:
[20:39] No.

Speaker 2:
[20:39] Okay, I understand.

Speaker 1:
[20:41] So like, what is, that has, that made no sense.

Speaker 2:
[20:44] That was emotional. Do you think it's all connected to your kids? Is that, do all ribbons and roads lead back to them?

Speaker 1:
[20:52] Maybe, maybe.

Speaker 2:
[20:53] I get that. I mean, so I have a playlist for Baby Bo. It's called Mornings with Baby Bo. And not that I'm digging up anymore, but I was. And there, that song, I'm done, see three for a moment. That one.

Speaker 1:
[21:07] Wow, that's on there.

Speaker 2:
[21:09] Dude, that fucking song is so sad.

Speaker 1:
[21:13] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[21:14] It's about life, it's about death.

Speaker 2:
[21:16] And I'm like, I'm going to be a hundred.

Speaker 1:
[21:18] I'm going to be dead.

Speaker 2:
[21:19] I mean, I, and she looks at me like concerned, cause she doesn't know that there's such a thing as happy tears.

Speaker 1:
[21:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[21:25] Cause she is not an empath, yet. But when she turns whatever age you are, I feel like this is all so new though. I feel like this is like the last two years you've become emotional, again.

Speaker 1:
[21:37] I think I've always been emotional.

Speaker 2:
[21:40] I just feel like I've seen you cry so much recently.

Speaker 1:
[21:42] It's my Scorpio moon.

Speaker 2:
[21:44] Oh, I guess so.

Speaker 1:
[21:45] We just feel things very deeply as Scorpio moons.

Speaker 2:
[21:48] Excuse me.

Speaker 1:
[21:49] Which is why I have to put a wall up.

Speaker 2:
[21:51] Right.

Speaker 1:
[21:52] Otherwise, I can't do my day-to-day activities.

Speaker 3:
[21:55] I can't function. I can't handle life.

Speaker 1:
[22:01] So that's where I'm at. Also, I had another moment with Hartford yesterday that I forgot to tell you when I came back upstairs. Sorry, is this turned into a parenting podcast?

Speaker 5:
[22:10] I don't give a.

Speaker 1:
[22:12] Don't worry, we'll get to Scamandabal or whatever the fuck. We will.

Speaker 4:
[22:15] We must.

Speaker 1:
[22:17] Lex vs. Lex, whatever.

Speaker 2:
[22:18] My Roman Empire is all I can think about.

Speaker 1:
[22:20] We'll talk about it. I have talked a lot about how I think Hartford and I have had a lot of past lives together. When she was born, and Teddy brought this up yesterday, when she was born and she came out, she gave me a look that she was just like, oh no, not you again.

Speaker 2:
[22:37] This bitch.

Speaker 1:
[22:38] I just felt it. She's like, fuck, I have to deal with you again. I have moments with her where in her heart, she loves me, is obsessed with me, I'm her mom. But there's something in her soul that holds her back, or she has the angel and the demon on her shoulder fighting.

Speaker 2:
[23:00] You did her dirty in the past. Maybe you were Amanda to her Sierra. Maybe you dated West in a past life. I'm sorry. Maybe we're living in parallel universes.

Speaker 1:
[23:12] Maybe we are.

Speaker 2:
[23:12] And you are simultaneously living those lives.

Speaker 1:
[23:15] I just don't think in any of my past lives, I'm capable of doing that.

Speaker 2:
[23:18] I actually don't need that. You've never been like a, maybe like a murderer.

Speaker 1:
[23:22] Maybe I was just about to say that. I couldn't see myself. I've murdered someone, but definitely not pick me.

Speaker 2:
[23:27] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[23:28] That's no way.

Speaker 1:
[23:29] I will die on that hill. Okay. Anyway, when I got her out of her bath and you guys were waiting upstairs, whenever I get her out of her bath, I get emotional and I'm just like, I love you and I just smile at her and all that. Sometimes she's like, please don't smile this time.

Speaker 3:
[23:46] She'll ask me that.

Speaker 1:
[23:47] She's like, don't smile because she knows it's like a connecting moment where she doesn't feel like connecting. So I've started to just look away and be very stoic when I get her out of the bath or whatever. I'm trying to feel what her soul is wanting. Yesterday, I looked at her and I smiled and I gave her a hug. Then I was like, why are you resisting? She was like, I love you and you are my favorite, but my brain doesn't like you.

Speaker 2:
[24:17] I'm dead. I'm dead.

Speaker 1:
[24:22] You could tell it made her sad. She couldn't figure out what is it. It was making her feel guilty. I'm like, that's not your brain. That's your past life. It's okay. It doesn't hurt my feelings because I know, I feel the love from you. I feel that you love me. I feel how much you want to be. We have a special connection and bond that spans centuries, girl.

Speaker 2:
[24:50] You're so California. You need to come to New York for a trip. Literally.

Speaker 1:
[24:55] The fact that she said that and she felt bad about it, she was like, why does my brain tell me these thoughts?

Speaker 2:
[25:01] I like that she also identifies it and communicates it. This is great.

Speaker 4:
[25:04] Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2:
[25:05] Right. But also, like wild that she can even put it into words and process it.

Speaker 1:
[25:12] I need to know if anyone else's kids have gone through this.

Speaker 4:
[25:14] Me too.

Speaker 1:
[25:15] Because I think I'm doing a pretty good job of understanding it.

Speaker 2:
[25:22] You are. Most parents would shut down and get their feelings hurt. 110 percent.

Speaker 1:
[25:25] Because I see how conflicted it's making her.

Speaker 2:
[25:29] You're like, and I did something wrong to her in a past life.

Speaker 1:
[25:31] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[25:31] It's actually my fault.

Speaker 1:
[25:32] It's my fault. I remember when I did get pregnant, some astrologist had reached out to me and she was like, your child, this child, is your North Node.

Speaker 2:
[25:43] I don't know what that means.

Speaker 1:
[25:47] Your North Node is like your soul's purpose.

Speaker 2:
[25:50] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[25:51] And it's your lesson. It's like your lesson. And whenever I look up my North Node in astrology, it always says your North Node is to learn to stop trying to control everything. I agree with your North Node. So my life's lesson, my soul's purpose in my lifetime is to learn to relinquish control. But someone had messaged me that my daughter was my North Node and so maybe it's those two things together that like Hartford is part of my purpose and it has to deal with she will teach me the lessons on relinquishing control or something like that. I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[26:31] I actually like the messaging of this conversation as a new parent because like I'm in a phase now so Bo hated me for a while and it really hurt my feelings and I was like I'll never talk to that bitch again. Fine. I'll abandon you. But I decided to say because you know, it's hard to move and she's in my house. So anyway, but I remember like now we're in a phase where she thinks sunbeams fly out of my butthole. She thinks I am Celine motherfucking Dion.

Speaker 1:
[26:59] Yeah, no. The way that like when you sing to her, she lights the fuck up, laughs, giggles so engaged. It's just like it's the best thing ever.

Speaker 2:
[27:06] It's the greatest thing ever. But I also am aware enough to know that like this too shall pass. There will be good moments and there will be bad moments. She'll think I'm annoying. She'll think I'm embarrassing. She'll hate me. She'll yell at me. She'll wish I didn't talk so much about her. Like all of these things I'm going to have to deal with down the road. But like, it's so scary to think about her not 100% just thinking that I'm like the greatest thing in the world, but it's good to prepare yourself for it. Because it's just reality.

Speaker 1:
[27:34] I don't know. Some parents, their kids are obsessed with them.

Speaker 2:
[27:36] That's not true. That's not true. Every kid has some sort of like, axe to grind, like complaint about their parents. My parents are fucking awesome. And I still could tell you stories. Like, you know, they were really strict when I was growing up. So like, no matter how hard a parent tries, there will always be some level of trauma that they leave on you, even if they like, I mean, were as close to perfect as humanly possible. That would be the perfection would be the trauma, right? Like my things, I'm like, my parents were so great. Like, it was so hard to live up to a love like theirs. And I bet they're like, oh, this bitch.

Speaker 3:
[28:07] Sorry we didn't divorce.

Speaker 2:
[28:08] Yeah, so sorry we were stable and functioning. Yeah. No, my mom got really upset with me. I remember, do you remember Rude Jude? Do you remember Blast in the Past? Yes. Sippin on GHB when we were out to dinner.

Speaker 1:
[28:21] Okay, just like FYI, I'm not friends with this person. I didn't, I only met this person once because my crazy ex-boyfriend brought him to dinner and this person was like absolutely insane. And I...

Speaker 2:
[28:33] He was my coworker. I like...

Speaker 1:
[28:35] Sorry.

Speaker 2:
[28:35] I... Listen, he would acknowledge everything you just said. He's like a crazy person and always working on the crazy outwardly kind of a thing.

Speaker 1:
[28:42] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[28:42] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[28:43] So like I have just... And this is 10 years ago. So I've had one interaction with this person.

Speaker 2:
[28:46] And he had GHB.

Speaker 1:
[28:48] And I'm like, this is not an atmosphere that I want to be in. Like, I'm not going to like sit here with people doing drugs.

Speaker 2:
[28:53] I think it's normal for a woman to be scared of a man carrying around date-rate drugs. That's normal. But he was just doing it to himself.

Speaker 1:
[28:59] Yeah, it was so wild.

Speaker 2:
[29:00] But it's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[29:00] I've never seen anything like it.

Speaker 2:
[29:01] It's a crazy thing. So he wrote a book. He's very open about the drugs he's done and the life he's lived and all this stuff. So he was saying that like his, like he has crazy stories about his parents. And so I had him on my show years ago at Sirius and I was interviewing him and I was like, I'm kind of like jealous, Low Key, that your parents were like so fucking crazy because like your life is so yours. Like the world is your oyster. Like there are no expectations. So you just get to kind of do you. Cause like, I feel like my parents were so stable like there's already like a baseline that I have to live up to and that's like a lot of pressure. My mom was so mad at me. She like didn't talk to me for all weeks. She was like, I'm sorry, I gave everything up to be a wonderful parent. And I'm like, see that's trauma right there. What you're doing right now that. So no matter what, it's guaranteed. And, but I just know when Bo looks at me, like sometimes she'll just like give me the most judgmental look like side eye. I'm used to it. But it breaks me. And so I'm just saying I need to, I want to be Stassi Schroeder when I grow up. I want to learn how to have my kid give me some sort of a pushback, a criticism and like take it for what it is and like internalize it and go like, you're allowed.

Speaker 1:
[30:07] It was helpful that when she came out of me, she gave, I knew it. I knew it right then and there.

Speaker 2:
[30:16] I was like, it's like so crazy, but like it actually also makes sense.

Speaker 1:
[30:19] I was like, she is having thoughts. She's giving me judgy face. Like she's just like, she knows. When I'm like, I know. I'm like, don't worry though. We'll get through this.

Speaker 2:
[30:29] To be fair, she just got smushed out of a vagina. Do you think maybe that was the look she was giving?

Speaker 1:
[30:33] No, Messer was like, didn't give that look. No. Messer's, yeah, he did. He slid right out and he was like, I'm happy to be here and I'm chill. I mean, that was, he.

Speaker 2:
[30:43] That was then.

Speaker 3:
[30:44] That was then. Yeah, that was then.

Speaker 1:
[30:46] He is not chill whatsoever.

Speaker 2:
[30:48] He's been so good with Baby Bo.

Speaker 1:
[30:50] He has.

Speaker 2:
[30:51] He said to Teddy, he came over to Teddy last night, and he goes, I don't, I not hit her.

Speaker 3:
[30:56] I not hit her.

Speaker 2:
[30:57] I not hit her. He's like, good job, let's keep it up. Did you talk to him?

Speaker 1:
[31:03] Well, yeah, well, leading up to it. Yeah, you said don't hit Baby Bo.

Speaker 3:
[31:06] I mean, like, you can't hit babies.

Speaker 1:
[31:07] Yeah, so like, we're not, we're gonna be gentle, no scratching, no pulling here, like be, no hit, like.

Speaker 2:
[31:13] I no hit her.

Speaker 1:
[31:15] I not hit her.

Speaker 2:
[31:16] I not hit her. So, and heart with her is the cutest thing ever.

Speaker 1:
[31:21] She's so maternal.

Speaker 2:
[31:22] She really is.

Speaker 1:
[31:23] She's a maternal girl.

Speaker 2:
[31:24] She really is.

Speaker 1:
[31:25] And she just loves to take care of things and be loving and sweet. Not to me, but.

Speaker 2:
[31:30] I was gonna, there was a caveat. No, wait, you guys.

Speaker 1:
[31:33] Well, she is sweet to you, though.

Speaker 2:
[31:34] She is.

Speaker 1:
[31:34] She is.

Speaker 2:
[31:35] She's careful. She is.

Speaker 1:
[31:36] You know what she is?

Speaker 2:
[31:36] She's honest with you, and that should be every parent's goal, is knowing exactly where your kid is and giving them this like safe space to tell you whatever they're thinking and know that you're going to handle it like an adult. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:50] I feel bad, because I feel like I talk so much about the fact that she has past life beef with me, but she really is so incredibly loving to me also.

Speaker 2:
[32:00] I mean, she is so madly adored you.

Speaker 1:
[32:04] I feel when her soul is pulling her back, though.

Speaker 2:
[32:07] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:07] I feel the shift when she feels the shift, when the devil on her shoulder is telling her, like, no, no, stop hugging her. I feel that shift energetically. I don't know, man. It's kind of crazy. I can't explain it. We're just connected.

Speaker 2:
[32:21] That part of her soul needs to do EMDR. I did EMDR. It's basically like it's a part of therapy and you get kind of mildly hypnotized. So that part of her soul needs to get over it.

Speaker 1:
[32:34] It will eventually get over it.

Speaker 2:
[32:35] You think?

Speaker 1:
[32:36] Yeah, because it's my soul's purpose to real English control.

Speaker 2:
[32:39] Right, right, right, right, right, right, right.

Speaker 1:
[32:40] It'll happen. North node.

Speaker 2:
[32:45] I thought I nailed it.

Speaker 1:
[32:47] North node.

Speaker 2:
[32:47] I did not.

Speaker 1:
[32:49] Should we? That was 30 minutes.

Speaker 2:
[32:53] Wow, we're really unbelievable. Look at us go every single fucking time.

Speaker 1:
[32:58] Which is so crazy because I'm going to be honest.

Speaker 2:
[33:01] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[33:01] I need to go touch grass. I need to go outside.

Speaker 2:
[33:04] I know.

Speaker 1:
[33:04] I need some fresh air because I have been on my phone, hooked to it, refreshing it more than I ever have in my entire life this past week. Alex vs. Alex and Summer House, command of all whatever.

Speaker 2:
[33:24] Baseball game. Baseball game.

Speaker 1:
[33:26] It's the baseball game.

Speaker 2:
[33:27] I've watched the clips an unhealthy amount of times. I hope that they get paid for every time somebody watches it because, my god, they will never have to work again. The lip reading is so spot on. You can't tell me that Amanda is not saying to West, act like you like me.

Speaker 1:
[33:43] Act like you like me. It's giving.

Speaker 2:
[33:46] So I did something shameful today.

Speaker 1:
[33:48] What?

Speaker 2:
[33:49] I went back and I started, because when I'm doing my makeup, showering, whatever, I like to have noise on in the background. So I started rewatching Summer House, season one, because I am that.

Speaker 1:
[33:59] Am I on that?

Speaker 4:
[34:00] You are, by the way.

Speaker 2:
[34:01] You're the first episode, which I forgot. It's the Steve Jobs episode. Yeah. It's amazing.

Speaker 1:
[34:09] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[34:09] You're fabulous as always. But I wanted to remember the origin story of Kyle and Amanda.

Speaker 1:
[34:16] Was she on it from the beginning?

Speaker 2:
[34:17] She was. She was going over there late night, they were having sex on camera, and it was a thing.

Speaker 1:
[34:23] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[34:23] Like you just hear like noises and stuff. But it's so like I can't get enough. I'm addicted. I'm addicted to Amanda Boutula. Like not like in a, I think she's great way. I'm addicted into like not liking her.

Speaker 1:
[34:35] You got to look into everything. You got to go back.

Speaker 2:
[34:37] I have to go back and it's so demented. Because we're living in a crazy time because when y'all started doing reality television, there was no streamers. It was the episode comes out, and you watch it and then it's done.

Speaker 4:
[34:49] It's done.

Speaker 2:
[34:50] And now we can watch it in a very demented, unhealthy way, and I love it. And I just can't get enough of wanting to judge Amanda Batula.

Speaker 1:
[34:59] We need help and we need our own hobbies, okay?

Speaker 2:
[35:04] No, we have many jobs. We are now, I mean me now, we're both parents.

Speaker 1:
[35:09] I know, but it's just taking over a lot of space in my brain.

Speaker 2:
[35:13] I know, it lives rent free, completely in my brain.

Speaker 1:
[35:14] It's really taken over. I need to think about other things.

Speaker 2:
[35:18] I don't like something so negative to take over my energy, but I can't quit a girl.

Speaker 1:
[35:23] I know, every time I go into a room, I'm like, has Alex Earle dropped the video? Any new place I go to, it's all I can talk about. I'm like, are we all waiting for Alex Earle's video? I can't talk about anything else. I went to a birthday party, and it's not just me. I went to a birthday party this weekend. Morgan Stewart was there, she walks right in, she walks up to me.

Speaker 3:
[35:45] So are we waiting for this video?

Speaker 2:
[35:48] Bring me up to beat on the Alex, Alex, Alex, Alex, Strauss. Because I feel like I'm in, I'm way more into what Amanda said to us at the baseball game. That's where my head's spiraling about, but we talked about the Alex, Alex.

Speaker 1:
[36:04] We did, a little.

Speaker 2:
[36:05] So there's been really nothing since she said on it.

Speaker 1:
[36:09] So this Brianna chicken fry made things worse for Alex.

Speaker 2:
[36:12] So that is where, which one? X or Ix? Earle or Alex Earle. Can we call them X and Ix? I think that's fun.

Speaker 1:
[36:23] Cooper and Earle.

Speaker 2:
[36:24] I'm calling them X and Ix.

Speaker 1:
[36:25] No, Cooper and Earle.

Speaker 2:
[36:29] I missed the whole chicken fry. So fill me in. She basically said that X was a mean girl.

Speaker 1:
[36:35] So yes, she was basically coming out saying that Alex Cooper was a mean girl, all this stuff, blah, blah, blah. Then Alex Cooper, I don't know why she did this. I understand releasing the video.

Speaker 2:
[36:47] I feel like once you're in it, you're in it and it's a runaway train. I just want to say I probably would be behaving like Alex Cooper. It's giving me. If somebody wants to take that as an insult, they can, but I love myself sometimes. So I would say, how about if I can empathize with what she, I think she feels like she's fighting the world.

Speaker 1:
[37:08] Right. She probably does. So what happened is she then released, in response to whatever Brianna Chickenfry was saying. How does one get that name?

Speaker 2:
[37:18] How can we even take it seriously?

Speaker 1:
[37:20] What is that? What's the origin story?

Speaker 2:
[37:22] I can't take Chickenfry.

Speaker 1:
[37:23] What's the origin story of Chickenfry?

Speaker 2:
[37:25] I have no idea.

Speaker 1:
[37:26] Do you know how much I would throw myself off the roof of my house if I became known as Stassi Chickenfry? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:33] That has Dave Portnoy written all over it.

Speaker 1:
[37:35] That's not okay. That's not fair.

Speaker 2:
[37:38] Yeah, I know. Also, it really is an immediate hitter credibility. How can I take somebody with Chickenfry on their name actually seriously?

Speaker 1:
[37:47] She got her nickname. I don't know how to say her last name, Lepaglia?

Speaker 2:
[37:50] Sure.

Speaker 1:
[37:51] Lepaglia?

Speaker 2:
[37:52] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[37:53] Got her nickname from a viral Vine video where she jokingly compared her leg to a Burger King Chickenfry.

Speaker 2:
[38:00] Yikes. Dark.

Speaker 1:
[38:03] Like an episode of The Valley.

Speaker 2:
[38:06] I'm deceased. Put me in an urn.

Speaker 3:
[38:10] Shit me away.

Speaker 2:
[38:12] In a sarcophagus.

Speaker 3:
[38:14] That sucks.

Speaker 1:
[38:15] Wow.

Speaker 3:
[38:16] You made one fucking Vine video.

Speaker 1:
[38:18] And for the rest of your life, that becomes your last name? I feel bad.

Speaker 3:
[38:23] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[38:25] That's why she's always trying to fight everyone. Her people hurt people.

Speaker 3:
[38:29] Yes, hurt people. You know? Hurt people.

Speaker 2:
[38:32] Her people hurt people.

Speaker 1:
[38:33] Okay. So Alex Cooper then responds by screenshotting all of their DMs.

Speaker 3:
[38:38] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[38:39] And putting him out there.

Speaker 2:
[38:41] And they seemed very amicable back and forth.

Speaker 1:
[38:43] For sure. And like Brianna Chickenfry seemed like just a really big fan and whatever and all that. And Alex Cooper was very nice and supportive to her.

Speaker 2:
[38:50] And it went on the correspondence. It seemed like it was spanning over.

Speaker 1:
[38:53] Until 2023.

Speaker 2:
[38:54] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[38:55] And so then Brianna responds being like, which, okay. Like I don't understand why Alex Cooper actually responded to this. She didn't need to respond to Brianna Chickenfry. I get what you mean. Like she's probably like in it right now. It's like her against the world and she's like spiraling or whatever. But like, I don't think she needed to, she didn't need, she has a, she interviewed Kamala Harris. Do you know what I mean? Like you don't need, you don't need to be.

Speaker 2:
[39:19] Rising above is always the way. Ignoring things is always the vibe.

Speaker 1:
[39:24] It really is.

Speaker 2:
[39:25] But sometimes it can be difficult, especially when you feel like you're being misrepresented and you're being wronged. But also, the new cycle is so swift. And so I feel like if you can just not keep eating it, the fire, it will die out. And so, but I, again, I can't fault her for it because I could see myself like falling victim to it too and being like, hey, that's not my truth. But at the same time, it is it is prolonging the narrative.

Speaker 4:
[39:50] Yes, correct.

Speaker 1:
[39:51] Okay. And then Brianna then fought back and came out, like did an immediate video, which I appreciate the Swift, the Swift video. We didn't have to wait all but 20 minutes.

Speaker 2:
[40:02] Chicken fries on it.

Speaker 1:
[40:03] She was on it and really, do you know what she says?

Speaker 2:
[40:07] Fast food drive through out in five minutes or less. Is that Burger King slogan? I don't think so.

Speaker 1:
[40:13] I don't know, but it works. And her in her video, she's like, yeah, that was our correspondence. Back when I was a fan of yours and I didn't know how you treated Alix Earle and other people or whatever. Like you don't see any of our correspondents since over the last two years or whatever. So whatever kind of dies there. But she, Brianna says, Alix Earle is on it and she is going to blow this shit out of the water.

Speaker 3:
[40:39] She is going to end Cooper.

Speaker 1:
[40:41] And so like she says that. So I think it's not even the fact that Alix Earle commented, I'm on it.

Speaker 2:
[40:49] I'm on it.

Speaker 1:
[40:49] It's the fact, like that could have been explained away. Like a sarcastic, yeah, I'm on it.

Speaker 2:
[40:54] Right, like that was her like quid pro quo.

Speaker 1:
[40:56] Yeah, like she could have just been like, we don't know how she meant totally, I'm on it. But with Brianna coming out and saying this, it's like now we all collectively, including like every like business out there, I see like every brand and business commenting on Alix Earle's post being like, yeah, we don't care. Like, are you going to release your shit? Do you know what I mean? Like, it's like everyone is invested in this. The History Channel actually posted something on their TikTok about it. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[41:25] Do you think Alix Earle is regretting having said I'm on it? Because now like she does kind of like that maybe she thought is like, that's my ender. I'm on it. Wink, wink, lol, fuck off. But now, yeah, she does have to be on it and we're all waiting with breath that is baited and so it's like girl, but maybe she doesn't want to be on it anymore.

Speaker 1:
[41:44] But now I'm getting angry. Now I'm like, I spent a lot of time refreshing my phone last week.

Speaker 2:
[41:52] I'm waiting for it.

Speaker 1:
[41:53] I thought for sure by 2 p.m. Pacific time on Friday.

Speaker 2:
[42:00] That was your deadline you gave her?

Speaker 1:
[42:01] That was my deadline. I was like, because it's like 5 p.m. New York East Coast. Like that's, we'll absolutely have a video out by then. We'll have something out by then. That time came and went. And I'm like, wow, this, just want to acknowledge, I need a hobby.

Speaker 2:
[42:19] Well, I want to say this too. I saw a clip of a man talking on a show. I don't know who he is, but I think he is involved somehow with Alex Earle's reality show.

Speaker 1:
[42:29] Oh yeah, so David Grutman.

Speaker 2:
[42:30] Got it. And so this, now I'm going, wait, so is this all just like, and I don't think that this Alex Cooper, Alex Earle beef is for marketing.

Speaker 1:
[42:39] Oh, it's not.

Speaker 2:
[42:39] I definitely do not.

Speaker 1:
[42:40] I need the people to know, this is real, and now they might use it on the reality show. But this is all real.

Speaker 2:
[42:48] But maybe this is why she is delayed. Maybe they see it like an organic opportunity, hold it, hold it, hold it, drum up a lot of curiosity for the show. Why wouldn't they just hold it until they need all eyes on them?

Speaker 1:
[43:00] I'm sure that's a part of it. I also feel like she probably, it's a lot of information to then go through all the right channels to make sure it's okay that you're releasing certain information and being like, is this okay? Is this okay? Is this okay? Just making sure you're safe to say a lot. It's a lot to get approved. It's a lot to, I also think that it all collectively, her side of the story put together probably isn't that big of a deal. And like, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[43:35] It's kind of a nothing burger.

Speaker 1:
[43:36] It's kind of an, it's, I don't see it being this crazy ass thing. I think Alex Cooper and her just did not do business well together.

Speaker 2:
[43:47] Right, right. And that's the thing too, is like, is Alex Cooper a mean girl or is she very proficient at business? Like there's all these other like, you know, secondary tertiary conversations coming out of it now.

Speaker 1:
[43:57] I just like, we wouldn't be asking this if this was a do.

Speaker 2:
[44:00] And that's my, that is my gripe with it. Like also like, you could, you can be like, super aggressive in business and people might not like that, but like it doesn't like, I hate when it's women, it's like she's mean. It's like if it was a man, you just be like, he's aggressive in business.

Speaker 1:
[44:13] I hope no video comes out in the next two days. Oh my God, we're spending all this time talking about this.

Speaker 2:
[44:19] Oh God.

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Speaker 2:
[48:52] Oh, yet again. Anyway, well, we'll see. I did see though a theory that Alix Earle is very good friends with the person who dated Alix Cooper's husband now.

Speaker 1:
[49:04] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[49:04] So there could be like, so maybe it's just that petty fucking beef, right? Like my friend dated your guy.

Speaker 1:
[49:09] I think it's really layered and there's a lot to it. I think it started someplace and it built, built, built and it's spidered out into a bunch of different things. And I think she's probably like, how do I explain that all in one video?

Speaker 2:
[49:21] Like you can't. And also like, what is her feeling? Like you can't make claims if you're like, well, I felt like, like you have to have, you know what? If you're going to make a big bold claim about somebody, you have to have like actual receipts to back it up in the, in the game that they're playing.

Speaker 1:
[49:35] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[49:36] It gets dangerous.

Speaker 1:
[49:37] Yeah. So I kind of think we're not going to hear anything. I kind of think it's just going to go away. And Alix Earle still has her team, her, her, her two girls.

Speaker 3:
[49:48] And I think Cooper Nation will be fine.

Speaker 1:
[49:53] And this is the thing. I don't want to see either of them either fucking canceled or like, I don't want like, this is just like juicy. I never wanted to pick a side. I never wanted, like, I just am like interested in the drama of it all. Like we want to know girls fighting girls. I want to know what happened, but I don't want to see like any of their, their lives or businesses suffer like, okay, cool. Since nothing else is going to come out, can we just like all pretend like this didn't happen now and move on?

Speaker 2:
[50:20] Because we can, and we can move right over to a baseball field. Yeah. Last in demand.

Speaker 1:
[50:26] Thank God for them. Thank God for the decision.

Speaker 2:
[50:29] Thank God for their horrible decisions that they continue to make. I have to ask you from a reality TV, like OG veteran perspective, what are they doing? What is the play? Why are we going out in public? So from my POV-

Speaker 1:
[50:46] I'll tell you my theory.

Speaker 2:
[50:47] Okay, go. Because I have a fan POV. Let me just do my fan POV. My fan POV is West is literally Kyle 2.0. He's just younger Kyle. He wants to be out and about, and that's it. And she just wants to be appealing to him.

Speaker 1:
[51:00] Oh, wow.

Speaker 5:
[51:01] That is so crazy.

Speaker 2:
[51:03] Oh, stop it.

Speaker 1:
[51:03] Yeah. I don't think that this is any sort of PR thing. I don't think they're thinking everything through. I think West is a party boy that likes to be out, and she's like, fuck, okay, I guess I have to be out, because I have to be what West likes.

Speaker 2:
[51:15] Even though she wants to hide and be in right now, which is exactly what she and he should be doing. You can, you know, you can, like, you can postmates alcohol to your house. You don't have to just sit inside and be sober the whole time.

Speaker 1:
[51:26] God, I would love a reason.

Speaker 2:
[51:28] Oh my God, give me, give me this much of a reason to refuse to leave the house.

Speaker 1:
[51:32] Like, I missed the COVID times.

Speaker 2:
[51:34] Oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[51:34] You know, I had, like, no expectations for me to be anywhere, just could watch Netflix, Hulu, whatever the fuck I wanted to watch. Like, oh my, what a dream. Like, you, at least, you have the world hating you. At least you get to sit at home now and binge your shows.

Speaker 2:
[51:49] But this is the danger of what they're in. Because if they were as legit as, like, TMZ is reporting.

Speaker 1:
[51:56] They're not legit.

Speaker 2:
[51:57] Then, but if they were, if they were so in love, they would just be, like, cocooning together. But he still needs to socialize, to go out, to do the things.

Speaker 1:
[52:06] Yeah, because he's not in love with her.

Speaker 2:
[52:08] No, and she blew it all up for a guy for a situation ship.

Speaker 1:
[52:12] Yes, and I don't think that they were hooking up while they were filming Summer House.

Speaker 2:
[52:16] I actually don't either.

Speaker 1:
[52:17] I think that, because if they were hooking up, they would avoid each other.

Speaker 3:
[52:20] Oh, they absolutely, they'd already caught feelings.

Speaker 1:
[52:22] That was like a simmering, they both knew that they were attracted to each other. They had that, like, burning desire to, like, be all over each other. But if they didn't cross the line yet, meaning, I mean, I think they crossed the line just in the way that they were acting, like, I'm sorry, him, like, grabbing her hair and her, like, coming over in her bathing suit and then saying, watch my ass as I walk away.

Speaker 2:
[52:43] Are you, so bad, so bad.

Speaker 1:
[52:47] Crazy, crazier than anything I went through on fucking Vanderpump rules, I'm crazier.

Speaker 2:
[52:52] Million percent crazy.

Speaker 1:
[52:53] Okay, cause nothing, they weren't acting like that on camera. Do you know what I mean? So, like, this is insane. So, like, they were inappropriate with each other, but if they had already, like, crossed the line and hooked up with each other, they wouldn't be acting like that.

Speaker 2:
[53:05] They wouldn't be acting like strangers, like they were fighting. They would be so freaked out.

Speaker 1:
[53:08] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[53:09] True.

Speaker 1:
[53:09] So, I think that it is relatively new that they started hooking up, but, like, West doesn't even know if he likes her yet.

Speaker 2:
[53:16] It's...

Speaker 1:
[53:17] Do you know what I mean? Like, it's a very new, messy thing.

Speaker 2:
[53:19] I feel like he's regretting this, cause now he's kinda stuck, because he does care about his career and he does care about his image. And so, I think he knows he's on the path of sand of all, even though he's Rachel. Girl, girl, you Rachel, West. But I do feel like he thinks if sand of all could be on the trade. I heard actually on DuMois that he was like talking, he was in Arizona for some like work thing. And he was saying something to somebody about like, well, you know, I mean, sand of all did get to go on the trader. So like, like, this isn't the end for me. Like, I think he's very concerned about his trajectory after this. So he's gonna have to stick it with her because everybody has agreed. The only way that they can be forgiven is if they get married. Yeah. So I think he is feeling pressure and he's also a commitment folk. I mean, he must be, he is in a hell of his own making and I love it.

Speaker 3:
[54:07] I love it.

Speaker 2:
[54:08] And she is also feeling his disconnect because she knows.

Speaker 3:
[54:12] She knows.

Speaker 2:
[54:12] She's an older woman. And I think she's showing, oh my God, I can't fucking believe this. And that's why she is saying that is like shit. You say to a guy, you've been dating forever.

Speaker 3:
[54:20] Act like you like me.

Speaker 1:
[54:23] I say that to both sometimes.

Speaker 2:
[54:24] Literally. I say that to Tay too.

Speaker 3:
[54:26] Act like you like me.

Speaker 2:
[54:27] Yeah, we're out, you know, and about. And so, and she's so aware of people watching her, but then he wants to be out. She's like, has a scarf and also her dressing like him.

Speaker 1:
[54:38] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is really what is like, come on. The dressing like him is so obvious and...

Speaker 2:
[54:49] Cringe.

Speaker 1:
[54:50] It's just like what, and when they kissed and they both immediately went to just like look at the screen again to like make sure they were still on it or something.

Speaker 2:
[54:57] Did they do it because they could feel people watching them?

Speaker 1:
[54:59] It was so slimy.

Speaker 2:
[55:01] Or did they do it because she said, act like you like me?

Speaker 1:
[55:04] They kissed because the camera thing was on them.

Speaker 4:
[55:06] They didn't know.

Speaker 1:
[55:08] But they go to look at it immediately.

Speaker 2:
[55:09] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[55:10] That was the broadcast though, not the Jumbotron.

Speaker 2:
[55:13] It was, they were, so that kiss was on the broadcast, not the Jumbotron.

Speaker 1:
[55:17] So what were they looking at?

Speaker 2:
[55:18] Probably people filming them. I'm assuming cameras are pointed at them, wouldn't you think?

Speaker 1:
[55:23] I don't know, but it was really weird how they just like both quickly went in.

Speaker 2:
[55:26] A baseball game? I don't even want to go to a baseball game. My wife's going with my child and I said, no, thank you. No, I wouldn't even go to a baseball game when things are good.

Speaker 1:
[55:34] Like out of all the things, you're going through this like traumatic experience of your own making. But like, so like I know what that's like to have like the whole world be looking at you, talking about you, disliking you, all of that.

Speaker 4:
[55:47] The last place I want to go is a sports game where there's so many people around.

Speaker 1:
[55:56] You are not safe. There's no one to, there's no shield. There's nothing to, anyone can say anything to you, record you, whatever. There's no corner to hide in.

Speaker 4:
[56:04] No.

Speaker 1:
[56:04] There's no like-

Speaker 2:
[56:05] They're not as sweet.

Speaker 4:
[56:06] Oh, it's wild, that choice.

Speaker 1:
[56:09] That choice is wild. And the day that Sierra has her glamour magazine.

Speaker 2:
[56:14] So good. Living well is the best revenge. So good.

Speaker 1:
[56:17] It's amazing. And all of her like answers to like every question, I was like, yes, yes, queen, queen, queen.

Speaker 2:
[56:23] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[56:23] Like, but it's just annoying because like this has overshadowed it because of course we want to talk about the shit that's salacious, you know.

Speaker 2:
[56:30] Right, right. But it's just like, God, she's winning and they are actively losing. And it's poetic justice.

Speaker 1:
[56:37] Her pulling him down, like the footage of like her pulling his jeans because he was like, Right, right, right.

Speaker 2:
[56:44] He was cheering for the other team. And she's like, she's so controlling.

Speaker 1:
[56:48] Yeah. I mean, I can't fault her on that. I am too.

Speaker 2:
[56:50] But girl, West is not the one. There's plenty of men out there who want to be controlled. West is not one of them. Yeah. Oh, she's going to look, she's already looking like a fool. And she's going to end up looking like such a fool. And it's just, but she deserves it. I kind of don't feel bad.

Speaker 1:
[57:06] No, I don't, I did feel bad. Like our last episode that we talked about it on, I did. Cause I was like, I know this person. Like I know Amanda, not like know her well, just meaning like we have hung out a handful of times. We have each other's number, whatever. Like it's been a while. Like I haven't seen her in like five or six years.

Speaker 2:
[57:25] Right. Your acquaintance is at best.

Speaker 1:
[57:26] Yeah. So like, I'm like, and I also know what it's like to go through a scandal.

Speaker 2:
[57:30] I know you do.

Speaker 1:
[57:31] So I was like, I feel-

Speaker 2:
[57:32] You have empathy.

Speaker 1:
[57:34] I feel bad. Like, was I, were we piling on by even talking about it? But like-

Speaker 2:
[57:38] The world is talking about it.

Speaker 1:
[57:39] But now I don't feel bad because of how they've conducted themselves since it broke.

Speaker 2:
[57:44] The bars.

Speaker 1:
[57:45] The bars, the baseball game, the post with her dog saying like, I'm going to be out and about, like, okay.

Speaker 2:
[57:52] Following around this fucking party boy.

Speaker 1:
[57:54] Yeah. I'm like, you guys have, you don't care about Sierra. Like you would not be acting like this. You'd be hiding.

Speaker 2:
[58:00] Still have not acknowledged Sierra by name. It's insane.

Speaker 1:
[58:03] And so it's just the way that they've handled it since then has made me be like, oh, I don't care anymore. Fuck it.

Speaker 2:
[58:09] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[58:09] I don't think she is who I thought she was.

Speaker 2:
[58:11] No.

Speaker 1:
[58:11] And that's just like what it is.

Speaker 2:
[58:12] Agreed. And now people are like going back into like the archives of Summer House. And like, she says some, I think she was just with Kyle, who was such a villain for so long that she was like, I can do no wrong. Like he will always look like the bad guy. And she just didn't. The thing is, she would have been fine. If she just fucked Kyle over, nobody would really give a shit. Because he didn't treat her like shit for so long. It's because of the, it's the Sierra of it all. And she, you know, she really, she really messed up on that one. And I hope her and West are fighting right now. They are. They definitely are.

Speaker 3:
[58:47] They are.

Speaker 2:
[58:48] But she's like not fighting. She's like super passive aggressive because she like can't even find her own voice.

Speaker 3:
[58:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[58:53] Oh, she's in a hell of a role making it so what's here.

Speaker 3:
[58:55] I love it.

Speaker 2:
[58:55] It's delicious.

Speaker 3:
[58:56] God, it's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[58:57] What a time to be alive.

Speaker 2:
[58:59] Feels good.

Speaker 1:
[59:00] That Mormon wives.

Speaker 2:
[59:02] Oh my God. The never ending.

Speaker 1:
[59:04] Jessie out with Marciano.

Speaker 2:
[59:05] Girl.

Speaker 1:
[59:06] Oh no, don't think I didn't FaceTime.

Speaker 2:
[59:08] And I love Jessie. I love you.

Speaker 3:
[59:10] I love you. And I was like, what?

Speaker 1:
[59:12] And then I texted Jessie, what? And I'm like, you know what? I'm going to see them.

Speaker 2:
[59:15] Yeah. We might see them soon.

Speaker 1:
[59:18] I'll see them.

Speaker 2:
[59:19] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:21] I'll see them. I'm just like, you guys, I didn't do all this work, all of this detective work on Vanderpump Villa.

Speaker 2:
[59:28] For nothing.

Speaker 1:
[59:29] For just to end up right here, unless you guys are in love.

Speaker 2:
[59:32] So Villa, let's talk about Villa. Villa.

Speaker 3:
[59:35] I just miss it so much.

Speaker 1:
[59:37] I had the best experience this time.

Speaker 2:
[59:40] Here's the thing, I get you had the best summer of your life. I did. But it hurts because I was not around. You have a great summer, but chill. I don't know. On the quantifying.

Speaker 1:
[59:51] It was like the English countryside is really, it suits me. The estate really suited me.

Speaker 2:
[59:57] Yeah. It was spectacular. The outfits were outfitting. You were a queen in her element.

Speaker 1:
[60:01] Thank you. I really got to know the staff. I had already known so many of them, and so I got to be around them more. It really did feel like summer camp where you're like, even though I've never been in a summer camp, which is what I imagine summer camp is like, and then you get to see each other again next summer. You know what I mean? Like that's how it felt. And I don't know, it was just really fun. And well, I love detective work.

Speaker 2:
[60:24] You were so brilliant in the first episode. There literally are no words. I'm not through the whole season. I kind of jumped around, but my god, that first episode was like, that was OG Stassi. It was like Stassi 4. It's so fucking good. Like, and the internet agrees. Like, it was just, it was like delicious.

Speaker 1:
[60:42] Well, I just couldn't be, I couldn't believe what I was being told.

Speaker 2:
[60:45] Craziness.

Speaker 1:
[60:46] I was just receiving information. Well, I thoroughly enjoyed receiving information, digesting it, talking about it. Fucking dad talk, thinking that they were gonna pull one over me.

Speaker 2:
[60:58] Girl.

Speaker 1:
[60:59] Jordan.

Speaker 2:
[61:00] Jordan.

Speaker 1:
[61:01] Jordan thinking he was gonna try and get me on his side, try and get me to understand.

Speaker 2:
[61:05] Do his homework? He didn't do his research. You know what he was dealing with?

Speaker 1:
[61:09] And you know what he said at the reunion after?

Speaker 2:
[61:11] Go. Can you say it?

Speaker 1:
[61:12] He said, yeah, I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2:
[61:15] Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:
[61:16] It's not that big of a deal. But like I was talking, like obviously we were at the reunion and we were having to discuss things or whatever.

Speaker 3:
[61:21] And he's like, did you even watch our show?

Speaker 1:
[61:25] To me.

Speaker 4:
[61:26] And I'm like, excuse me?

Speaker 1:
[61:29] I was like, I've just spent hours and hours of my life on my computer with screeners, with my glasses, just like up against. I'm like, I've taken notes. How dare you look at me right now with this condescending little, did you even watch our show? I'm like, I've been doing, I put so much work into this fucking reunion little man.

Speaker 2:
[61:50] Little, little man.

Speaker 1:
[61:52] I was just like, God, you make me mad.

Speaker 2:
[61:55] He is so narcissistic. It's like if you don't see my side, then you clearly didn't do your job.

Speaker 4:
[62:01] Oh, she's really.

Speaker 1:
[62:02] We thought, there was so much of that reunion that didn't air. I feel like post, it's like enough time has passed that I can kind of just like.

Speaker 2:
[62:10] I agree.

Speaker 1:
[62:11] I wasn't allowed to ask a lot of questions because of legal shit.

Speaker 2:
[62:14] Right.

Speaker 1:
[62:15] There were so many questions that I wanted to ask, that I'm like, this is what the people want to know. I was told I couldn't.

Speaker 2:
[62:20] Your hands were tied.

Speaker 1:
[62:21] And yes, it did look like one fucking long Dunkin commercial. Not my choice.

Speaker 2:
[62:25] I'm a Boston girl. I love Dunkin Donuts.

Speaker 4:
[62:27] I love Dunkin too, but like, it took up a lot of time.

Speaker 2:
[62:30] It took a lot. The bar, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[62:31] It took up a lot of time.

Speaker 1:
[62:34] But there was a lot that did happen, that like didn't air. And we for sure thought, like everyone, like production wise, we thought that Jessie was going to announce her divorce to Jordan on that stage that day.

Speaker 2:
[62:45] Damn.

Speaker 1:
[62:46] And so it was like a looming thing that I was like feeling in my, like that I'm like, okay, I'm prepared for this. I'm prepared for this. She must've spoken to like producers a little bit about how it was on her mind. You know, now we know she is getting a divorce and she's happy about it and all that. So like we can say it now.

Speaker 2:
[63:02] Of course.

Speaker 1:
[63:02] Do you know what I mean? But it like never happened. And like Jordan never got, like I was waiting for Jessie to just like pummel Jordan. And like that moment never happened. I just wanted it so badly.

Speaker 2:
[63:11] Because he deserves to be pummeled.

Speaker 1:
[63:12] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[63:13] He is definitely getting his right now.

Speaker 1:
[63:15] The second that he started talking about her fucking insecurities, I was like, oh no. You claim you're here to protect your wife and protect your family. Yet, you're sitting here listing out specific insecurities of hers. That contradicts everything that you're saying right now. That is a huge invasion of someone's privacy.

Speaker 2:
[63:43] Vulnerabilities?

Speaker 1:
[63:44] Absolutely. It disgusted me.

Speaker 2:
[63:48] I don't think I'm any of my ex's favorite person in the world, but I will say this thing. There are unwritten rules. There are some things you never repeat publicly about somebody you were with, and that's definitely the top of the list.

Speaker 1:
[64:01] That is one of them, and they were together.

Speaker 2:
[64:04] He's so gruesome. Anything to save his own butt. That's the lane that Jordan's in.

Speaker 1:
[64:09] Yeah. No, I can't. Now, I need to just say for my own peace of mind, I did voice note this to Jessie yesterday. I was like, just FYI, back when I was at Villa in England, I really did thank you and Marciano had sex because I hadn't seen the next season yet. I got the screeners on my flight home. So I didn't see everything.

Speaker 2:
[64:27] So you were questioning Marciano in England actually in a different time and place.

Speaker 1:
[64:32] Yeah, so we didn't see the lie detector stuff. We didn't see her meet with him yet. We didn't see all of that.

Speaker 2:
[64:37] So this is not what you think now.

Speaker 1:
[64:40] I don't think that now. I do not think that Marciano and her had sex prior.

Speaker 2:
[64:44] I think, yeah, good to clarify. I know, I of course knew.

Speaker 1:
[64:47] Not that anyone cares now.

Speaker 2:
[64:49] Yeah, but also, but maybe, and also I feel like Jessie's the kind of person that's like, no, no, no, I am totally fine. I totally get it.

Speaker 1:
[64:54] She was like that.

Speaker 2:
[64:55] She's so chill. She's so great.

Speaker 1:
[64:56] She is really chill.

Speaker 2:
[64:57] She's so great.

Speaker 1:
[64:58] Like if someone was out there saying that about me, actually, I don't know, this is our jobs. It's all speculation. You put yourself out on TV, everyone's allowed to pick it apart.

Speaker 2:
[65:07] It's easier said than done, but you and I have recently had conversations along the lines of, listen, we talk shit for a living. If you're in the world of podcasting, reality television, what have you, you've done your own fair share of shit talking, so you can't get all panties in a bunch hot and bothered when people do it back to you. That's hippo fucking critical. So yeah, when you put your life out there, I think you have to have a certain level of like, people are gonna discuss this. And Jessie gets it, and I respect her for having a good head on her shoulders about it.

Speaker 1:
[65:41] She really does.

Speaker 2:
[65:43] She really does.

Speaker 1:
[65:43] Now it looks like her and Marciano are together.

Speaker 2:
[65:45] Honestly, whatever.

Speaker 4:
[65:46] I trust...

Speaker 2:
[65:48] Yeah, she's... You know what? Divorce, post-divorce, I mean, I became a lesbian.

Speaker 1:
[65:53] Listen, I also...

Speaker 4:
[65:54] Crazy things happened.

Speaker 1:
[65:55] I have a soft spot for Marciano.

Speaker 2:
[65:57] I know you do.

Speaker 1:
[65:58] He does lie, which you know I hate, and has not been loyal to people. But there is a good person there.

Speaker 2:
[66:08] Tay and I actually had a very deep conversation about this.

Speaker 1:
[66:11] I don't know how to describe it. I feel like I have this big sister energy towards him. I do feel like I have this big sister energy towards, honestly, everyone on the Villa cast.

Speaker 2:
[66:22] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[66:23] So like I-

Speaker 2:
[66:24] It's kind of your role.

Speaker 1:
[66:25] And so there's no one, like there's not one person on that cast that I don't like. So like I feel for all of them, including Marciano.

Speaker 2:
[66:33] Empath, here we go again. The theme of today is empathy. I will say Marciano triggers me, I don't really know why. He feels like Jax 2.0, but I think that Jax is not, in my opinion, a good person. And I think that Marciano maybe has some more redeeming qualities.

Speaker 1:
[66:56] I don't like that comparison. I choose to believe that Marciano is not as bad as that.

Speaker 2:
[67:00] Okay, fair enough. I mean, you would know better than me.

Speaker 1:
[67:02] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[67:02] So I'll just give Marciano a break.

Speaker 1:
[67:04] Marciano doesn't have dark energy.

Speaker 2:
[67:06] Understood, understood. Okay. He has a lying problem.

Speaker 1:
[67:09] He has a lying problem. He just wants to be famous.

Speaker 2:
[67:13] Yeah, he's thirsty AF, you know, but he doesn't have the darkness inside of him.

Speaker 1:
[67:17] I don't see dark energy.

Speaker 2:
[67:19] Okay. Although lying about sleeping with somebody when you didn't is like pretty crazy.

Speaker 1:
[67:24] Pretty crazy.

Speaker 2:
[67:25] Pretty crazy when you have kids and a marriage and that's a reputation.

Speaker 1:
[67:29] She's forgiven him.

Speaker 2:
[67:30] She's Jesus.

Speaker 1:
[67:32] It's like, if you can forgive, if she's forgiven him, then like we all have to forgive. I'm doing whatever the girl is telling me to do.

Speaker 5:
[67:39] Fine.

Speaker 1:
[67:40] So like if Jesse's okay with it, I'm okay with it.

Speaker 5:
[67:42] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[67:42] I like that. I like that.

Speaker 1:
[67:43] You know, he didn't do it to me.

Speaker 2:
[67:45] Facts.

Speaker 1:
[67:46] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[67:47] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[67:48] All right. So anything else, sister?

Speaker 2:
[67:50] So Tay and I did fly across the country with baby both for the first time. We've never flown on a plane with her ever. Our first one was across the country. There was explosive diarrhea. There was judgy looks from people on the plane. There was a lot, but Tay and I are going to recap it. On Monday's episode of Taste of Taylor. So we'll have a whole breakdown for you guys.

Speaker 1:
[68:11] Also, that flight is I think the hardest one with children. It's easier to go to Europe because at least you're like, okay, it's sleepy time now. When you're going to and from New York and LA, it's just short enough and just long enough to be like, what do we do with ourselves?

Speaker 2:
[68:26] What do we do? I can barely function as an adult after that flight.

Speaker 1:
[68:29] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[68:30] So looking at my flight, that flight shiled me up. So here's what we're going to do. But we'll break it all down. But it was a lot, but we survived. Yeah. She's a good girl. I'll say that. She's a really good girl. We're very, very lucky. It didn't come from me, okay? It's not my parenting, it's not my genetics, and every second with this kid makes me fall more and more and more in love with her. She's so good. And time zone changes. I mean, there's a lot going on right now.

Speaker 1:
[69:09] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[69:09] First time sleeping in a room together is in a very long time. First time going on a plane, first time sleeping in a hotel, there's just a lot.

Speaker 1:
[69:18] We had an early night last night because we have babies and kids.

Speaker 2:
[69:21] We're responsible adults.

Speaker 1:
[69:23] Last night was the first night that Hartford stayed up like an older kid.

Speaker 2:
[69:26] I know.

Speaker 1:
[69:27] That was actually like a shift too. She's never done that.

Speaker 2:
[69:30] Really?

Speaker 1:
[69:30] Where she's like literally won't go back in her room. She's like, no, I know that you guys are upstairs and I have FOMO.

Speaker 2:
[69:35] I mean, we're amazing conversationalist. Why would she want to come up and hang out with us?

Speaker 1:
[69:38] You could tell she was just so excited to just be laying there on the couch, just sitting and listening to everything.

Speaker 2:
[69:44] She's like, my bed's uncomfortable. Yeah, I have to get on my bed.

Speaker 1:
[69:47] My bed's so uncomfortable. It's so uncomfortable.

Speaker 3:
[69:49] My neck hurts.

Speaker 1:
[69:51] I'm like, liar. Anyway, I hope everyone has a wonderful rest of your week. Lots of big things happening.

Speaker 2:
[70:01] We got some major recapping to do next week. Both show.

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[70:05] Bye.

Speaker 2:
[70:22] Bye!

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