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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Baby, we made it.

Speaker 2:
[00:01] Category is gown, because it is time for the finale.

Speaker 3:
[00:05] Yes, all the girls are back on the main stage to strut their stuff for the finale.

Speaker 2:
[00:09] And mother is giving choreography and bugle beaded performance.

Speaker 3:
[00:16] And we get baby pictures, friends and family chats, and a new original song performances from our final three.

Speaker 2:
[00:23] I was born with adult teeth. Are you here to stimulate? Are you cooking with gas? Or are you versatile?

Speaker 3:
[00:31] Honey, we are all of the above and you know what else?

Speaker 2:
[00:33] What, sister?

Speaker 3:
[00:34] I'm ready to crown a winner. So let's get into the grand finale of season 18 of RuPaul's Drag Race. I'm crowning.

Speaker 4:
[00:41] Mom. Race Chaser.

Speaker 3:
[01:07] Hello.

Speaker 2:
[01:08] Hello.

Speaker 3:
[01:08] Hello, and welcome back to Race Chaser O'Current, a podcast dedicated to the discussion, dissection and dissemination of every single episode of RuPaul's Drag Race. Starting from the very beginning.

Speaker 4:
[01:23] This is the beginning.

Speaker 3:
[01:25] There you go.

Speaker 4:
[01:26] My name is Alaska. What's yours?

Speaker 2:
[01:27] My name is Courtney Act and I'm Ozzie Royalty.

Speaker 1:
[01:31] I can hit the high notes and I'm in the top three.

Speaker 3:
[01:36] That was your finale episode.

Speaker 2:
[01:37] That was my finale episode. I was wearing that pink August Getty gown.

Speaker 3:
[01:45] Pretty.

Speaker 2:
[01:46] I think Katy Perry went on to wear and now Willam owns, or maybe Katy Perry wore it before me. I feel like she wore it after me. I think she saw it and she was like, I want that dress.

Speaker 3:
[01:57] She was wearing it when she stole that house from that nun. We are recapping the Drag Race Season 18 Finale. The season everyone has been clucking about all year.

Speaker 2:
[02:09] What are the chickens clucking about?

Speaker 1:
[02:10] What are the chattering chickens chucking about?

Speaker 3:
[02:14] Willam is still away on assignment.

Speaker 2:
[02:17] She is. We thought that the scars would heal quicker, I guess, but unfortunately.

Speaker 3:
[02:23] Willam, listen, you have to do hyperbaric. You have to do lymphatic drainage. These are not negotiable. You have to do these things. You have to do more.

Speaker 2:
[02:33] It's like the doctor says, your nose won't bleed no more if you just keep your finger out of there. So you need to apply that same logic to your new orifice.

Speaker 3:
[02:46] To your orifice. Period.

Speaker 2:
[02:47] Yes, you need to dilate, but stop putting other foreign objects that cause blunt force trauma in it, please.

Speaker 3:
[02:56] When will she ever learn? Now, last week was the all RuPaul of Perusa Smackdown.

Speaker 2:
[03:03] It was.

Speaker 3:
[03:03] Which we discussed together. You are here. You have a standing invitation anytime you wish to be here. You can press the she emergency button and tap out either of us at any time and take over. And somebody won $50,000. It was Juicy Love Dion. Yes. In a shocking turn of events. She is good at lip syncing. Now we've made it to the finale and RuPaul is ready to crown her winner. So it's kind of a live finale. There's kind of a studio audience. They're probably the same people who are under ironclad NDAs who were there for last week.

Speaker 2:
[03:48] I can't work out that just is something magical about the era of a giant live in a theater event. I understand it's a huge logistical nightmare. I understand. But also like.

Speaker 4:
[04:02] You got queens with their phones and their car and their voice memos and their glasses.

Speaker 2:
[04:08] Meta glasses. I was walking along Melrose yesterday. I know nobody walks in LA but I walked down Santa Monica, down Robertson, up Melrose and back to where I live. And there's a shop.

Speaker 3:
[04:22] Is that your typical stroll for when you're?

Speaker 2:
[04:24] My typical stroll when I'm on the stroll. There's a shop that's like a meta.

Speaker 1:
[04:28] You're looking for a good time mister. Toot toot. Hey, beep beep.

Speaker 2:
[04:34] I don't get into Tesla's though.

Speaker 5:
[04:36] As a point of protest.

Speaker 1:
[04:38] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[04:38] Yeah. Speaking of points of protest, there's a meta store and it's like a giant concept. So I even, I was like, for some reason, I felt tenuous about even walking in the store, but it sells skateboards and meta glasses. And you can buy like meta glasses in any frame shape, like Oakley's Ray-Bans, like every color. And I picked a pair up and they're like, they're light, they're fine, like they're just like normal sunglasses, but they have multiple cameras and recording devices in them.

Speaker 3:
[05:11] That's freakish.

Speaker 2:
[05:12] I saw somebody who posted a video wearing the meta glasses on Instagram and it shows you like a special little logo to let them, let you know that they've been using meta glasses.

Speaker 3:
[05:21] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[05:22] It's actually kind of wonderful footage because you get like a first person, like experience and I really loved it. And then I felt dirty because I don't like the idea of, I know everybody has a camera already, but I don't like the idea of people just having meta glasses that are recording you without your knowledge or consent.

Speaker 3:
[05:40] It's so freakish. Have you seen the guy on line who goes, Hello. And he's like, apparently like, I don't know what he looks like, but he probably just looks like a very guyish guy. So he goes into like Home Depot and goes, Hello. And everyone turns around and is like, and then he's like, Yeah, I don't know. Did you hear that? And he keeps doing it. And he does multiple videos of it. Anyway, this is why last week's episode was 90 minutes long. What's happening? Who's going? Who's what's going on? Oh, Raja, Bob and Kim are on bikes.

Speaker 2:
[06:23] Let me tell you, thank God that pull through from episode one made it all the way through to the finale. Otherwise, none of season 18 would have made sense.

Speaker 3:
[06:31] Yeah, I was really hoping they would, you know, kind of tie that up. Yeah. I'm so glad they did.

Speaker 2:
[06:37] Real cliffhanger of episode one. I kept watching just to wait and see what happens.

Speaker 3:
[06:41] Anytime Raja's on my screen, I'm happy, though.

Speaker 2:
[06:44] That's true.

Speaker 3:
[06:45] She looks great and she's sickening.

Speaker 2:
[06:47] And playing to type with a glass of white wine in her hand.

Speaker 3:
[06:51] On an exercise bike. Goals. The each girl comes out giving their, you know, moment and RuPaul lip syncs Mother of the House. Well, she performs it. I don't know if she was lip syncing. It's her song. I mean, it's very likely they, it could have been like the old sound stages. They had the boom mic hanging down. You couldn't see it in the frame. And she was just, you know, projecting.

Speaker 2:
[07:18] She could have also done ADR where you just, you pop into the booth after the live performance, just to sweeten any little bits. Just to clean it up a little. I'm not saying there were any clunkers. I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying that every now and then, there might be a note that you're a little breathy on because a dancer is dipping you and you just need to touch that shit up.

Speaker 3:
[07:38] Speaking of dips, how about her voguing?

Speaker 2:
[07:41] Mother vogued.

Speaker 3:
[07:44] I have not seen voguing like that since my daughter, Nebraska. I mean, really just.

Speaker 1:
[07:50] I thought you were trying to get on All Stars All Winners.

Speaker 3:
[07:53] I'm not saying anything inflammatory. I'm saying a compliment.

Speaker 2:
[07:58] I'm saying high quality.

Speaker 3:
[08:02] I mean, this is ballroom. This is ballroom culture.

Speaker 2:
[08:04] Everything comes from ballroom.

Speaker 3:
[08:06] Everything does.

Speaker 2:
[08:07] My balls have a lot of room today in my Gia gun for trans lingerie tucking panties.

Speaker 1:
[08:12] What the fuck are you even tuck? Do you want to see?

Speaker 2:
[08:17] I am tucked and I am padded.

Speaker 1:
[08:20] Honestly. Wait.

Speaker 3:
[08:21] Jeans with a gown is my gender. This is it. I feel so cunt and fashionable.

Speaker 2:
[08:28] Jeans with a gown is a valid gender, I think.

Speaker 4:
[08:30] It's my gender.

Speaker 3:
[08:32] I need pockets and I need flats, but I like gowns. Oh, my God. See, if you're not behind the paywall, you are not seeing all of this paywall puss.

Speaker 2:
[08:41] It's literal puss, puffy puss, but puss nonetheless.

Speaker 6:
[08:46] So did you like the performance?

Speaker 3:
[08:49] RuPaul's performance? I loved it. I haven't gotten the call yet, but I still, yes, I loved it.

Speaker 2:
[08:56] I would like to talk about RuPaul's stunning jumpsuit, bugle beaded by the look. That is some finale level handwork, hours of beading.

Speaker 3:
[09:10] And you can tell she felt pussed.

Speaker 2:
[09:12] She did.

Speaker 3:
[09:12] She felt pussed in that black cape and in the little shoe poking out in her toes with the French tip nails.

Speaker 2:
[09:20] Those shoes are such 90s RuPaul shoes. I feel like that supermodel era, clacky black Frederick's of Hollywood, four inch.

Speaker 3:
[09:32] My issues on Hollywood Boulevard, honey.

Speaker 2:
[09:34] Now, yes.

Speaker 3:
[09:35] Yes. Now, the girls got together with Leland to produce their own songs, to do a collaboration Lopez on a song. And first up is Darlene Mitchell. She's a little bit country and a whole lot of stupid, and her song is called Cooking with Gas.

Speaker 2:
[09:59] I really enjoyed this Darlene moment. I really enjoyed her outfit. You know what's interesting? There's been commentary around Darlene's looks this whole season, that they've somehow been like subpar or mold drag. But I went back through a retrospective of her looks, and all of her looks have been beautifully made, had a very strong point of view. That point of view has been mold drag, but the execution of the quality has been not mold, not mold, mold. And all of her drag is so elevated and beautiful and well executed.

Speaker 3:
[10:42] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[10:43] And so I kind of just have this idea that like, she has had busted drag because there's this commentary of like, well, you can even win drag race looking like that.

Speaker 3:
[10:52] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[10:52] But then I looked and I was like, she's stunning.

Speaker 3:
[10:56] Yeah. She's very stunning. The makeup has always been right. I mean, she's really done a variety of looks and yeah, you're right. You're right.

Speaker 2:
[11:05] Some of the hair choices, maybe that was it.

Speaker 3:
[11:08] She does. She just bought a bag of hard fronts. And you bring a bag of film lace.

Speaker 2:
[11:13] Well, yes. But I'm back in synthetics.

Speaker 3:
[11:16] HD film lace.

Speaker 2:
[11:19] I opted for film, not HD because HD disintegrates too quickly. So I've just gone with a simple film lace. Okay.

Speaker 3:
[11:25] Nicole Kidman.

Speaker 2:
[11:26] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[11:27] Nicole Kidman in Destroyer.

Speaker 2:
[11:29] Or The Interpreter.

Speaker 3:
[11:31] The Interpreter?

Speaker 2:
[11:32] I watched that again recently. Have you seen that one?

Speaker 3:
[11:34] Nine Perfect Strangers. How about that one?

Speaker 2:
[11:37] Well, The Interpreter I love because her accent kind of floats all over the place. But she's an interpreter at the UN and she speaks like 26 languages. So I'm like, of course her accent would be so varied and unpredictable.

Speaker 3:
[11:52] I love that woman.

Speaker 2:
[11:53] Love her.

Speaker 3:
[11:56] What would you say to 24 year old Trash, the drag queen?

Speaker 2:
[12:02] What would I say?

Speaker 3:
[12:03] She'd say go home. What would you say? She said go home. You have work in the morning. And then what would you say to five year old Blake, which is always kind of a sweet moment. And these queens always look exactly the same somehow. And her fiance looks like Jacob Elordi.

Speaker 2:
[12:27] Yeah. Work, Deva. Trend alert, drag queens with boyfriends. Or fiancés.

Speaker 3:
[12:37] Husband, Sevan, fiance, Sevan.

Speaker 2:
[12:40] You heard it.

Speaker 3:
[12:41] There's a trend happening. I'm not saying we did it first, but...

Speaker 2:
[12:43] You heard it.

Speaker 3:
[12:45] I'm not saying we did it first, but... We're kind of on the vanguard of that movement.

Speaker 2:
[12:53] Anyway, we're going to take a quick break so that I can put an ad up to find myself a husband. Baby, whatever's my husband. I would like a ring. I would like a ring. I would like a diamond ring. I'm a wedding finger. I would like a big and shiny diamond that I could wave around and talk and talk about it until the day is done. Forgive me, Lord, that I could ever doubt it. Married.

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Speaker 3:
[17:14] We are back, and Myki Meeks is up next with a song called Versatile. And this is very Madeleine Ashton. I see me, I see, I know she was on the mood board.

Speaker 2:
[17:27] It is, definitely.

Speaker 3:
[17:28] Starting at the vanity with the just the mirror, just the mirror and me know.

Speaker 2:
[17:35] I was hoping that this song, there would be a button, because the whole song is about being versatile, being able to do anything, sing, dance, act. Obviously, there's a double entendre with homosexual sex of being versatile. And I was sort of hoping there would be a button right at the end, where she was like, I'm versatile, I'm versatile, boom, but I don't talk kind of thing.

Speaker 1:
[17:57] That's funny.

Speaker 2:
[18:00] I like that too.

Speaker 3:
[18:01] You should have consulted on this.

Speaker 2:
[18:03] Leyland, call me.

Speaker 3:
[18:04] They missed out, but this was a fun number. I mean, it's very like, I don't want to show off, you know, like sort of gonna really do every trick in the book and kakarikikakukaka. And Honey, she still had that long hair so she could do this evolution of the snatch back. That long hair is gone.

Speaker 2:
[18:26] Myki's parents are in the audience. We love a proud and supportive family there for their child.

Speaker 3:
[18:32] They're adorable.

Speaker 2:
[18:33] An opportunity I was never afforded the privilege of having. Not because my parents are dead just because I wouldn't fly them from Australia. Oh my god. I was so, I was like. I never got like a, whatever they were called in the big pink fairy box. Like I never got anything from home, no videos from family, no family who are at the reunion. And I actually feel like that would have been like maybe the thing that would have tethered me to reality enough that I didn't go back to my room and have a mental breakdown and look in the vase to see if there was any recording devices or anything like that. But anyway.

Speaker 3:
[19:12] And that's why they didn't want you to have your family around.

Speaker 2:
[19:15] Quite possible actually. I had Chas Bono instead and apparently there was a B story. Like you know how they plan different outcomes like if A do this, if B do that. Because Jocelyn got married to her husband on that episode or proposed maybe.

Speaker 3:
[19:34] Oh so she was the first. Sorry I retract my statements. We did it because of Jocelyn.

Speaker 2:
[19:41] Jocelyn walked so you could honk honk.

Speaker 3:
[19:43] Twelve years later we did.

Speaker 2:
[19:46] And then they asked Chas if he had anything else to ask me. And Ru was like, Chas is there anything else? And there was a slightly awkward repeated moment where RuPaul was legitimately trying to get Chas Bono to ask me to marry him. And they had a B plan where if that happened that like, they would do the proposal like in the broadcast. Because there had been this rumor that Chas and I were dating. The National Enquirer had even run a story that Chas is, Chas is dating a drag queen and mom's furious.

Speaker 3:
[20:24] And first of all, why would mom be furious about that?

Speaker 2:
[20:27] Imagine this being your daughter-in-law.

Speaker 1:
[20:28] Who cares? As long as you're happy, Chas.

Speaker 2:
[20:33] Anyway, I digress. This is about...

Speaker 3:
[20:34] They were trying to get Sharon to propose to me on My Finale. I mean, they just are nuts for proposing on this funky show. And Sharon was like, no, because that means she doesn't win. I was like, that's a good logic. Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[20:54] Next up, or more about Myki, less about Courtney.

Speaker 3:
[20:59] Let's talk about her interview category. This was the most sort of like, I'm going to say RuPaulisms. I'm going to talk about like how drag has changed my life, how I beat my inner saboteur, how kakadaka. It was very like RuPaul guru, house of hidden meanings, book tour fish.

Speaker 2:
[21:19] Yeah, she knew the assignment and she did it correct.

Speaker 3:
[21:22] Yeah, she had the best interview, I believe. No notes.

Speaker 2:
[21:29] No notes.

Speaker 3:
[21:31] Finalist number three is Nini Coco and she does activate, stimulate, activate. She was sorting through the Epstein files on stage with the desk and the suit. I loved this song the most. I think it has the most potential to go out. I could hear this in a club and it would be like cunt.

Speaker 2:
[21:56] It would go up. The club would go up. The club would go up. I was watching this episode of Drag Race live. I even subscribed to Fubo. Feebee. Freebee. Fobos. No, it wasn't free. Pluto? It was $80. Well, it came with a five day free trial. Fubo.

Speaker 6:
[22:14] Fubo?

Speaker 2:
[22:15] Anyway, whatever the it was called. I was watching. I think this might have been the first time I ever watched a finale of Drag Race on live television.

Speaker 6:
[22:23] Oh really? Fubo is a television channel.

Speaker 2:
[22:26] Yeah, a streaming service.

Speaker 3:
[22:28] But you were on the West Coast, so.

Speaker 2:
[22:30] Well, yeah, I guess I wasn't going to lie. Well, I guess I technically watched it live in Las Vegas in 2014 with Bianca and Adore.

Speaker 3:
[22:37] Like via satellite or something.

Speaker 2:
[22:39] Yeah, we like were locked in a hotel room and watched it together with cameras. Thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[22:44] But I loved.

Speaker 2:
[22:46] I loved Nini Koka's number. Oh, the reason that I said that is because I can't seem to remember any of these things happening. Even though I watched it live, I think I was so caught up in the spontaneity of the moment, but I remember loving Nini's number.

Speaker 3:
[23:00] Great number. Imagine if she had pussy hair on just for a second. Like if she had just a little bit of a little bit hair that moved a little bit of this, a little bit of that goes a long way. And I think that like, especially in this final cat suit, you know, reveal, but all that being said, this was a fabulous song, a brilliant performance and she really crushed it.

Speaker 2:
[23:30] Now Nini, if you are fearful of wearing big moving hair in drag whilst doing a big dance number, you can take some simple precautions like wearing a glitter lipstick to make sure the hair doesn't get stuck in the lips.

Speaker 3:
[23:42] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[23:43] And you can have it back off the face with big movement on the back and a little bit around the face. But I would point to Sasha Colby as a perfect example of moving beautiful hair, doing brilliant, beautiful numbers. Thank you.

Speaker 4:
[24:00] So just be like Sasha Colby.

Speaker 2:
[24:01] Just be like Sasha Colby. That's basically the moral of everybody's drag journey. Be more like Sasha Colby.

Speaker 3:
[24:06] Just be like the most gorgeous fucking goddess on earth. Just do drag. It's not that hard, guys. OK, be faggy every single day. What?

Speaker 2:
[24:18] Was that a lyric from the song?

Speaker 6:
[24:19] No, that's what she told her three-year-old self.

Speaker 1:
[24:21] Oh, good for her.

Speaker 6:
[24:23] She said, hold on to your youthful happiness. Your queerness is your greatest gift. Be faggy every single day.

Speaker 2:
[24:29] That's great advice.

Speaker 3:
[24:31] I have a deep state conspiracy to talk about. Yes. NeNe's mother. OK, so if you ever watch The Price is Right, there's one of the models and her name is Diane. And she is just so gorgeous. And there was a lot of fallout because she and Bob Barker were having an affair. She eventually sued the show. He tried to ruin her life.

Speaker 1:
[24:52] NeNe Koko is Bob Barker's love child.

Speaker 3:
[24:54] Well, I'm just saying. And I watched a documentary about all this recently, and they said that Diane can't be found. Like, no one knows where she is. She's not in the public eye. They couldn't reach her. No one knows where she is. NeNe Koko's mother looks exactly like Diane.

Speaker 2:
[25:16] I think you've, cold case. We've got a new podcast series. Briefcase.

Speaker 3:
[25:28] We're wearing briefs and we're doing cases. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[25:31] I really like this conspiracy theory that you're pushing.

Speaker 3:
[25:33] Something to think about, everyone.

Speaker 2:
[25:35] Now, do the ages match up, though, because when are we talking? Are we talking 90s, 80s, 70s?

Speaker 3:
[25:41] I don't know, but I would just like to consider it to be true and not really look too deep into this.

Speaker 2:
[25:48] I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There goes Courtney.

Speaker 3:
[25:51] Internet, do your thing. Let us know.

Speaker 2:
[25:54] Now, you've spoken about Nini's mother. I would like to talk about Nini's boyfriend.

Speaker 6:
[26:00] Arruga.

Speaker 4:
[26:01] Arruga.

Speaker 3:
[26:04] Wait, I don't remember.

Speaker 2:
[26:06] Oh my God.

Speaker 6:
[26:07] AJ, the hot nerd.

Speaker 2:
[26:08] He looks like a model from a Tommy Hilfiger commercial.

Speaker 3:
[26:14] She rented, she paid him.

Speaker 2:
[26:16] I don't think she did.

Speaker 3:
[26:17] She went to Central Casting and was like, okay.

Speaker 2:
[26:20] He looks like he was sent down from Central Casting as just a stunning, handsome man with like a thick, luxurious head of shiny hair. They met in the place that you go to educate yourself after high school when they were learning about engineering university, college.

Speaker 3:
[26:37] Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:
[26:39] Excuse me, I have to swat back a load of people.

Speaker 3:
[26:41] We're playing password. The place that you go after high school to educate yourself.

Speaker 2:
[26:48] College. You didn't.

Speaker 6:
[26:50] Ru asked if they met on Nerd Grinder.

Speaker 2:
[26:53] Which is a very, okay. Speaking of, last week we talked about being in on the joke. I would like to ask the question. RuPaul was like, you were two smart people. How did you meet? And is it difficult being two smart people who are dating?

Speaker 3:
[27:10] Did you say that?

Speaker 2:
[27:11] And I was trying to understand the concept, whether she was, whether she was just being absurd or whether she was like, there's this idea in her head that two smart people dating would be a challenge. And then the question remains in her relationship, is she the smart person or the dumb person? Because she's got to be one or the other. If, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3:
[27:37] Her brain is riddled with brain worms. I mean, at this point, she's like, she's literally in so much pain standing there in drag.

Speaker 1:
[27:45] She's like, so is it?

Speaker 3:
[27:47] She's not looking at them. They are completely over there. She's looking this way.

Speaker 1:
[27:51] So is it difficult dating an astrophysicist?

Speaker 3:
[27:55] Waiting for the commercial break. Like, can we wrap this up? Miley Cyrus. Ride, shine, clock said pussy time. Bust my pussy nut while I'm fingering your butt.

Speaker 1:
[28:08] Do I suck dick?

Speaker 3:
[28:09] You ain't seen shit.

Speaker 1:
[28:10] Throw a C note, watch you slide down my throat.

Speaker 3:
[28:13] I can't even say these words.

Speaker 2:
[28:15] Throw a C note. Just say cunt at this point.

Speaker 6:
[28:18] Well, a C note is a hundred dollar bill.

Speaker 2:
[28:21] Cunt, cunt.

Speaker 3:
[28:22] I am less offended by the word cunt. These are the lyrics from RuPaul on Miley Cyrus' song called Catitude.

Speaker 6:
[28:30] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[28:31] I was not familiar with this piece of art until earlier today. I'm glad that it's come into my consciousness.

Speaker 3:
[28:38] I'm glad we could share it with you.

Speaker 2:
[28:39] Consciousness.

Speaker 3:
[28:41] There is no conscience involved.

Speaker 2:
[28:42] There's no conscience involved in that.

Speaker 3:
[28:45] It's unconscionable.

Speaker 2:
[28:46] It was unconscionable. Miley Cyrus wins the Giving Us Life Time Achievement Award.

Speaker 3:
[28:56] Miley Cyrus is 32. Is that what they say?

Speaker 4:
[28:59] There she is.

Speaker 3:
[29:00] I'm going to go blow my brains out.

Speaker 2:
[29:04] What have you done?

Speaker 3:
[29:04] I have done literally nothing with my life.

Speaker 2:
[29:07] The girls have.

Speaker 3:
[29:09] She's like already in the lifetime achievement era. Like she's a little young for that.

Speaker 2:
[29:15] She's also in the pantheon of divas of today. Like Beyonce is at the top. Like obviously like your Diana Ross's, your Barbara Streisand's, your goddess shares this era of women. The next generation is obviously your Madonna and your Janet and people like this.

Speaker 3:
[29:35] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:36] But like of today, and I mean, I know Miley's been around for decades, but like I feel like Beyonce is the undisputed inclusion into the pantheon of greats. And Miley Cyrus is in there. She is like at 32.

Speaker 3:
[29:51] Why did I think she was older for some reason?

Speaker 2:
[29:54] She's been around since she was 12. I never watched Hannah Montana and I think I was too old. And also like Disney was on like a weird cable service that only half the people had. And so I kind of, do I want to go back and watch an episode and then see how I feel. I'm not going to commit to anything more than that. But I feel I love Miley Cyrus so much that I want to know and feel this new era, which is like a 20 years since Hannah Montana kind of thing. I want to be on at the ground floor. So I'm going to go and watch some Hannah Montana and see how I connect with it.

Speaker 3:
[30:30] A well deserved award because Miley is really a fan of this show. She really like gets it.

Speaker 2:
[30:36] And the girls are visibly gagged.

Speaker 3:
[30:40] Yeah, they love her.

Speaker 2:
[30:40] It is obviously a surprise. And everyone is like, holy fuck, Miley Cyrus is in the building.

Speaker 3:
[30:46] We adore Ms. Cyrus. And then Ms. Congeniality. Jane Don't wins Ms. Congeniality. Interesting since she was a huge cunt everywhere the whole season. I think people have forgotten what Ms. Congeniality means. Congenial means like friendly, nice, like kind and like easy to get along with. Jane Don't, listen, I love her. I think she should have been in the fucking finale. She's cunt as fuck, but she's not congenial.

Speaker 2:
[31:19] Or are we finding something out? Or are we finding something out about the edit? Was she actually so nice and kind that everybody voted her congenial?

Speaker 3:
[31:30] No, it's true. She probably was back there helping everyone and they didn't show us this part of the narrative.

Speaker 2:
[31:35] Oh, there is another universe where Jane Don't is the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 18.

Speaker 6:
[31:42] I know.

Speaker 2:
[31:43] And I feel like it's also the universe where Donald Trump isn't president.

Speaker 6:
[31:48] I know.

Speaker 2:
[31:49] I think that's it.

Speaker 3:
[31:50] So you're calling Myki Meeks Donald Trump.

Speaker 1:
[31:52] Okay, we'll take a break on that.

Speaker 3:
[31:54] No, I'm just kidding. No, I know what you mean. It is like, it's so strange to think about. But she was giving her speech and she said, congeniality is not something the women in my family aspire to, which is a designing women reference. And then they cut to Athena going, ugh. Which is just so funny. Like they have this much time on an episode like this editing it. Everything is a choice. And they chose to cut away from the action and cut to Athena Dion going, ugh.

Speaker 2:
[32:30] They know what they're doing.

Speaker 3:
[32:32] They love it. And I love it.

Speaker 2:
[32:35] And I'd be willing to bet.

Speaker 3:
[32:37] Oh, I thought my phone was going. I thought it was.

Speaker 2:
[32:38] Oh, you thought it was me.

Speaker 3:
[32:39] I thought it was there. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[32:40] I would be willing.

Speaker 3:
[32:41] I'm ready to be called. All Stars is coming up. I'm just saying this. I don't know. Maybe they haven't filmed it yet.

Speaker 2:
[32:48] No, we filmed it.

Speaker 1:
[32:49] Oh.

Speaker 3:
[32:54] And speaking of alternative universes, why don't we take a break?

Speaker 1:
[32:59] Why don't we take a break?

Speaker 3:
[33:14] It's good to wear sequins for the finale.

Speaker 2:
[33:16] It is, it feels appropriate. And a floor length gown. It feels appropriate.

Speaker 3:
[33:21] Courtney's gown is floor length, as is mine. You can't see it because we're behind a desk, but just believe us. I love that earring, that's a long earring.

Speaker 2:
[33:30] This is by House of Emanuel, an Australian jewelry designer.

Speaker 3:
[33:34] That's beautiful. I want the, and their clip bones.

Speaker 5:
[33:38] Just a beautiful piece of clip bone.

Speaker 3:
[33:40] Oh, I really want a pair of those.

Speaker 2:
[33:41] I've got them in crystal, and I've got them in whatever you call that.

Speaker 3:
[33:45] I have crystal envy right now.

Speaker 2:
[33:46] I love crystal.

Speaker 3:
[33:47] I am envious of those crystals.

Speaker 2:
[33:49] I love them.

Speaker 3:
[33:50] Beautiful. This is one of my oldest gowns, one of the first garments I ever had made. Dallas did such a good job, and I just love that.

Speaker 2:
[34:00] Let this be a message to all of you, Tiimou and Sheehan and Amazon Queens out there. This dress is 12 years old?

Speaker 4:
[34:09] Probably about that, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[34:11] And it doesn't look a day over brand new. It's got a beautiful leather edging, a gorgeous buckle at the back. The sequin still shines and glistens, and it's 12 years old. Yeah. And it still fits. A gown that is-

Speaker 3:
[34:29] It's stretch. Okay, on the main stage, thank God that it's made in stretch, a word to the wise ladies. RuPaul, let's talk about RuPaul.

Speaker 2:
[34:39] RuSplendent, just-

Speaker 3:
[34:42] RuSplendent.

Speaker 2:
[34:43] RuSplendent.

Speaker 3:
[34:44] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[34:45] I really love this. I think I've always had a boner for bugle beads. Yeah. For me, because there's something about them, the shine, the glistens, the work that is involved. It is my belief that what you are looking at is small glass tubes, black glass tubes. Every single one. Here we go with glass tubes.

Speaker 3:
[35:10] We have Courtney on the podcast and suddenly we're talking about glass tubes.

Speaker 2:
[35:14] I love crystal. Small capillary-like glass tubes of black glistening glass.

Speaker 3:
[35:20] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[35:21] That are hand-sewn.

Speaker 3:
[35:22] Brilliant work.

Speaker 2:
[35:23] One by one.

Speaker 3:
[35:24] Beautifully done.

Speaker 2:
[35:25] Amazing.

Speaker 3:
[35:26] You can tell that RuPaul feels extra fierce tonight. He really can. The hair is just big, voluminous, bump it. The mug is extra.

Speaker 2:
[35:35] The mug is extra stunner.

Speaker 3:
[35:38] Painted for blood tonight.

Speaker 2:
[35:41] The earrings.

Speaker 3:
[35:44] Eyeliner is so sharp, it could cut a man.

Speaker 2:
[35:47] It really could. Gorgeous.

Speaker 3:
[35:50] Love those earrings too. Beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[35:52] Gorgeous shape.

Speaker 3:
[35:52] Mother looks great.

Speaker 2:
[35:53] Gorgeous clacky mule.

Speaker 3:
[35:55] Sure. Maya shoes.

Speaker 2:
[35:57] That is not the sound of a sling back. That's not a sling. No, sling back has got a sling around the back. That's just a clacky mule.

Speaker 3:
[36:04] Yeah. Michelle Visage.

Speaker 2:
[36:09] Looks gorgeous. Looks beautiful.

Speaker 3:
[36:11] Absolutely gorgeous. I love this sort of snake slithering.

Speaker 2:
[36:16] Gold safety pins almost. Is this a nod to-

Speaker 3:
[36:18] Oh, Discordica.

Speaker 1:
[36:21] Discordica.

Speaker 2:
[36:23] Carson Kresley in a-

Speaker 3:
[36:25] Sequence.

Speaker 2:
[36:25] Harlequin. Sequin.

Speaker 4:
[36:28] The finale is all about Sequence.

Speaker 3:
[36:31] Everyone, it's all about Sequence.

Speaker 2:
[36:33] It must be sparkly. It must be gold.

Speaker 3:
[36:35] It must.

Speaker 2:
[36:36] Or metallic rather.

Speaker 3:
[36:37] Jamal Sims. Sparkly. Gold. Shimmer. I love that jacket.

Speaker 2:
[36:43] Beautiful.

Speaker 3:
[36:45] Now, let's get into some of the runway looks of the Divas of the girls coming down the runway.

Speaker 2:
[36:52] We've got Didi Fuego in Florals for Spring. Groundbreaking.

Speaker 3:
[36:58] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[36:59] She looks beautiful. It's a beautiful gown.

Speaker 3:
[37:02] She looks beautiful. And I think that like something she's done kind of all season has been like, she's going to wear really short hair, really flat hair, like hair that doesn't really give like softness. This is very soft. I think this is the most sort of beautiful like hair and makeup that she's had all season.

Speaker 2:
[37:23] On the subject of makeup, I was thinking about last week's runway rundown and I was complimentary as I, as was appropriate to all the girls. But then I thought about Naomi Smalls' runway rundown that she does where she's had to tell, scathing, like brutal. She's critical. Like violet, charchky level.

Speaker 3:
[37:46] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:47] Hateful. No, she's critical and she's often saying what I'm thinking.

Speaker 3:
[37:51] She gives good reason for her critiques.

Speaker 2:
[37:53] So I thought I would add a valid critique.

Speaker 1:
[37:57] Courtney is going to be a cunt.

Speaker 2:
[37:58] No, this is actually not cunty.

Speaker 3:
[38:01] Go ahead, say it.

Speaker 2:
[38:02] I feel-

Speaker 3:
[38:03] Zoom in.

Speaker 2:
[38:04] The lip.

Speaker 3:
[38:04] Camera one, zoom in.

Speaker 2:
[38:07] I feel the lip on Didi Fuego's Runway Look could have been a softer pink with a lovely gloss to it. Because to me, this is like a standard issue drag lip with a harsher lip liner and a deeper color. But with all these beautiful pastels, I would have loved to have seen-

Speaker 3:
[38:27] Softer.

Speaker 2:
[38:28] A Whirl by MAC with Myth. And wait, is Myth the pink one or is it the tan one? I think it's-

Speaker 3:
[38:36] Myth is like a nudey kind of dusty rose.

Speaker 2:
[38:40] There's another one that's called whatever it's called. It's like a soft pink with a dare I say tongue in chic lip gloss.

Speaker 3:
[38:50] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[38:51] I think that would have just been stunning on this.

Speaker 3:
[38:54] And this is something Willam said in the group chat and I don't know if it was our group chat. But Willam said, it's a shame that they don't have Matthew there. Because Matthew each season would be like after an episode or two had gone by, would sit down with you and say, you know what, I would like to see more of this from your makeup. I'd like to see this kind of shift just so you look optimal for TV.

Speaker 2:
[39:23] I remember that.

Speaker 3:
[39:24] To have a consultation, whether it's on camera or off, would be so useful to these young performers. But, you know, so I think that they should do that.

Speaker 2:
[39:37] The interesting question is, I mean, I guess I love Raven. If Raven depends on the tone, but like Matthew coming around and telling you anything about your face, I was just like gagged and appreciative of anything. I wonder whether Raven coming around and telling me things. No, I think it would still be absolutely like, oh, thank you for telling me that.

Speaker 3:
[40:01] Yeah, because she knows how to beat them up.

Speaker 2:
[40:03] She does.

Speaker 3:
[40:04] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[40:05] But I agree. I think that just those little, I think Matthew told me to like wear more makeup.

Speaker 3:
[40:14] And it took you 10 years, but you finally followed that advice.

Speaker 2:
[40:17] Somebody in the comments on last week's episode said something about like, what is this? This isn't drag. That's just a cross dresser. And I was like, oh, good. I can see you're familiar with my body of work. Like who comes out of pocket at Courtney Act for not wearing enough makeup. This is the most makeup I have ever worn people.

Speaker 3:
[40:36] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[40:36] Thank you.

Speaker 3:
[40:37] Didi Fuego, you look beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[40:39] Mandy Mango.

Speaker 3:
[40:41] Mandy Mango, she looks beautiful. I mean, she really has such a beautiful face and you can tell like the makeup is put there. I want to say the shady question. Who painted you?

Speaker 2:
[40:56] Who painted her?

Speaker 3:
[40:56] Who painted you tonight?

Speaker 2:
[40:58] Who did you face?

Speaker 3:
[40:59] This is the, right. This is the shady Alyssa Edwards thing where it's like, you look great tonight. Who painted you? But it's true. You can tell like, she's either really like stepped up her makeup game or she had someone paint her for the finale. Either way, her hair and makeup looks beautiful. And the crowd went up when she turned around and revealed the Philippines flag.

Speaker 2:
[41:24] Absolutely.

Speaker 3:
[41:26] Which is just such a fun and beautiful tribute.

Speaker 2:
[41:31] And it's also a beautiful way to present a flag as like a shrug, beautifully draped in silk. And I will also point out this shoulder that she's wearing is a traditional like Filipino silhouette. Next up, Briah Blush, who is looking stunning. She comes out with a mask, like a doll's cutout mask of her own mug on a stick.

Speaker 3:
[42:03] She looks just like the Blythe doll, you know, Gina's doll.

Speaker 2:
[42:07] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[42:07] Girl.

Speaker 2:
[42:09] She knew what she was doing. She's a Gina doll, isn't she?

Speaker 3:
[42:12] A girl.

Speaker 2:
[42:13] She is.

Speaker 3:
[42:13] Yes, she is.

Speaker 2:
[42:14] She's a Gina doll dressed as a Gina doll.

Speaker 3:
[42:18] It's kind of wild, but Briah's face is just one of the most beautiful out there.

Speaker 2:
[42:24] Stunning.

Speaker 3:
[42:25] I think she should give everyone makeup advice on this season. And this outfit is also really, really elevated. It stands out. It's a gown, but it has like such a playful angle, like the hat.

Speaker 2:
[42:41] I will say, I have a feeling that this is the exact shade of pond scum green that Michelle Visage detests. I think this is what she's talking about when she says she hates green.

Speaker 3:
[42:52] She did it to repulse Michelle Visage.

Speaker 2:
[42:56] Why not?

Speaker 3:
[42:57] She should have worn a powdered wig and you know, the white, white face.

Speaker 2:
[43:02] I love that now that Michelle Visage has done Marie Antoinette, nobody else is allowed to. She did it on Strictly Come Dancing in the United Kingdom. I did it.

Speaker 3:
[43:10] I've seen it. I'm over it.

Speaker 1:
[43:13] I don't ever want to see it again.

Speaker 2:
[43:15] But Briar looks stunning.

Speaker 3:
[43:17] She really does. I love that collar. This is fierce. And I'm so glad Briar isn't dead.

Speaker 2:
[43:23] She died?

Speaker 4:
[43:25] Did she see that this was making the rounds of a post?

Speaker 3:
[43:29] Matt showed, it was like the night after the finale. He showed me a post that was like, Briar Blush has passed away. Like it was like, so I don't know if it was the fans being crazy or her.

Speaker 2:
[43:40] People be out here on the streets killing people on Instagram. There's a drag queen in Sydney, Polly, who she's an older queen. Have you met Polly?

Speaker 4:
[43:50] Ahoyah.

Speaker 2:
[43:53] And she's always killing people on Facebook. She'll like post on Facebook, like RIP, Maria Vannuti, like a legend of Australian television. Everybody's like, oh my God, Maria Vannuti is dead.

Speaker 3:
[44:05] Like as a joke or like a mistake?

Speaker 2:
[44:07] No, because she thinks that she has died. I think she has, I think she has died now. But like, she just keeps going around killing like legends accidentally. That's called cop and strays.

Speaker 3:
[44:20] I don't know who did it, but Matt like messaged Gina. Gina's, you know, Briar's manager and Gina was like, oh my God. So she called her and she answered. So Briar as of recording, famously not dead, not dead and looking great.

Speaker 2:
[44:37] Is Maria Vannuti still alive? Keep talking.

Speaker 3:
[44:46] Is Briar Blush still alive?

Speaker 2:
[44:50] Still alive.

Speaker 3:
[44:52] Still alive. Sierra Mist. She's a bird. She'll only fly away.

Speaker 2:
[45:00] I'm like a bird.

Speaker 3:
[45:02] I don't know where her soul is. I don't know where her home is.

Speaker 2:
[45:04] I don't know where her hole is. She looks stunning. These beautiful blue pheasant feathers. Would you call this a royal blue, a cobalt blue?

Speaker 3:
[45:17] I think royal blue.

Speaker 2:
[45:19] It's beautiful.

Speaker 3:
[45:21] I like this hair too. I mean, listen, with Ciara, you're not really going to get like standard, you know, I'm going to be in a glamorous gown. She's always like a monster or a creature or a thing or a cuckoo to ca. And so she, her being bird woman, this is mid-animorphs, you know, they turn totally into a bird. They turn totally into a human. This is middle transformation.

Speaker 2:
[45:49] She's trans, she's in transition.

Speaker 3:
[45:51] She is. I love that hair. It's fucking cool.

Speaker 2:
[45:55] She took those avian hormones accidentally.

Speaker 3:
[45:57] She did.

Speaker 2:
[46:00] And then she pulls off the coat to reveal this stunning, we've got, we've also got a lot of hand applied crystals, I believe, on the face and on the arms. The beautiful feather work. I love crystal and stop talking about crystal. Stop talking about crystal.

Speaker 3:
[46:20] Crystals, glass pipes. I mean, come on.

Speaker 2:
[46:23] Thin glass pipes. Um, just beautiful.

Speaker 3:
[46:28] Really a beautifully made ensemble.

Speaker 2:
[46:32] There's at least six different birds in this outfit. Six, the feathers of six different birds.

Speaker 3:
[46:41] Sure.

Speaker 2:
[46:42] It's like when you get a whole aviary. A surf and turf and you've got like mixed meat.

Speaker 1:
[46:46] Stimpler platter.

Speaker 2:
[46:47] You get a platter. Like there's a cock feather. There's a pheasant feather. There's an ostrich feather. We've got chickens. We've got flightless birds. We've got the whole.

Speaker 3:
[46:57] Penguins?

Speaker 2:
[46:59] Penguins? Not birds.

Speaker 4:
[47:02] Penguins are birds.

Speaker 2:
[47:03] Are they?

Speaker 3:
[47:04] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[47:04] They're flightless.

Speaker 3:
[47:07] Penguins are birds. I'm wearing all penguin feathers today.

Speaker 2:
[47:13] I was talking about the ostrich. That's a flightless bird.

Speaker 3:
[47:17] Here is Sierra's lip thing. Even this, it kind of bothered me sometimes during the season. But this, I'm seeing it. I'm like, I get it. It makes sense. I like it. I remember Trixie's makeup being really polarizing for a long time and really like kind of like strange to look at. And now because she's done it so long, it's like, how beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[47:45] It's always fun.

Speaker 3:
[47:46] That her eyes are triangles that are like this, the white. It's like, it makes sense after a certain amount of time.

Speaker 2:
[47:53] There's women who have redefined beauty for themselves. I think Uma Thurman is one of those women who in the beginning, we didn't think of as beautiful. And now we do think of her as beautiful. But I love, I love it when you have a straight person who sees Trixie Mittell for the first time and they're like, what the is that?

Speaker 3:
[48:12] I know.

Speaker 2:
[48:12] Why has she got those lines all over her face?

Speaker 3:
[48:14] Yeah. Vito Von T's star.

Speaker 2:
[48:19] Fuck me dead.

Speaker 3:
[48:21] I absolutely love this. This is any time that you take a garment and I'm reminded of Tyra Sanchez. She did some and I don't know if it was an event or if it was a finale. It was some sort of live show, but she came out and it was in a gown and it was like a strapless, just gown to the floor and it was covered in these types of stone, these big rhinestones, just completely covered in it and the way it catches light, there's nothing like it.

Speaker 2:
[48:58] The bigger the facet, the bigger the flash.

Speaker 3:
[49:00] Mama, I love this, it is so drag, it's so fierce and the hat, I thought looked like a satellite dish, which the MTV logo is a satellite dish.

Speaker 2:
[49:16] Dressing on brand. Also, she bought her own backdrop because she is in a black gown and the background is often black and she thought, I will not be hoodwinked. I will not let my finger be hoodwinked by your black backdrop. I am bringing my own white backdrop to hold as a cape off the shoulders to provide you with the full visual effect of my silhouette.

Speaker 3:
[49:39] That is so fucking smart. Oh, I love it. Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant.

Speaker 2:
[49:45] Breathtaking.

Speaker 3:
[49:47] Mia Starr. She's giving breasts.

Speaker 2:
[49:54] She's giving Alexis Michelle.

Speaker 3:
[50:03] I just paid for Subway Dads. NYC, I'm coming through.

Speaker 2:
[50:09] I'm assuming these are Alexis Michelle references. Yeah. She's also maybe giving a little Athena Dion. She's giving a motherly, maternal glamour vibe. Maybe Alexis Michelle did her face.

Speaker 3:
[50:24] If I was in Photoshop, I would select the object of this hair. And then I would just magnify it.

Speaker 2:
[50:36] I agree wholeheartedly.

Speaker 3:
[50:37] Because this is one of those things. You get the hair done and it's done by the stylist who lives in fucking, you know, California or whatever. And you're like, it looks so good on the wig head, bitch, I'm gonna slay. And then you get it to your hotel, it gets shipped to you. You put it on your head and you're like, oh wait, my head is larger than a wig head.

Speaker 2:
[50:57] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[50:57] Because whose head isn't bigger than a wig head? A wig head is the size of this. So the wig looked like this big sculpted, you know, head, head system. And then here-

Speaker 2:
[51:14] Her tit is bigger than her wig.

Speaker 3:
[51:16] It looks too tiny on her head.

Speaker 2:
[51:18] It does.

Speaker 3:
[51:19] Almost like a pompadour in this one picture.

Speaker 2:
[51:22] She looks beautiful.

Speaker 3:
[51:23] She does look beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[51:24] I actually have the opposite problem to this, because I have such a tiny little bird head. That I will put a wig on and be like, I look like I'm wearing my big sister's hair.

Speaker 3:
[51:33] When is Willam coming back? Because we have got to get rid of this girl. No, I get it. We all have different size heads.

Speaker 2:
[51:43] We all have different size heads. And we all have different size cocks.

Speaker 1:
[51:46] The breasts?

Speaker 2:
[51:48] River Medway told me that when she's talking about, she'll bring up the subject of her penis. She thinks a man is attractive. And she's like talking to other people around him. She will choose the word cock. She will bring up her cock in a sentence as opposed to penis or dick or anything else. Because the word cock really sexualizes the sound of the word. So she'll talk about it so that then the man who she thinks is hot will think about her cock in a sexualized way. And I think that's a clever and manipulative tactic River Medway.

Speaker 1:
[52:25] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[52:26] Thank you River.

Speaker 2:
[52:28] Back to me a star.

Speaker 3:
[52:32] I feel like I went through a period where I was trying out, like this was years and years ago, but I was trying out wearing larger breasts. And I found that when I was like interacting with people, and maybe it's because of my height or whatever, but like people would immediately like zoom in on that and be like honk, honk, honk. Hey, titsy ma goo. You know, like it was very like that. And I feel like that with this garment. It's like, I'm not paying attention to the garment because I'm paying attention to Zaganga, Guganga, which she has chosen to put them on with as a breastplate, you know.

Speaker 2:
[53:11] She also does have a Jocelyn Fox level of accessorization going on. I feel like we just read Mia Stauffer Filth for the last eight minutes. We've talked about her hair, her tits, her accessories. She does look absolutely beautiful and stunning and gorgeous.

Speaker 3:
[53:23] She does. She does. And and we've also talked about Jocelyn Fox 35 times this episode. So thank you, Jaws.

Speaker 2:
[53:33] Unresolved drama.

Speaker 3:
[53:34] Athena Dion. Athena Dion, I would like to shout out this hair, which is by Hair Witch. Did you see it from the back?

Speaker 2:
[53:42] Your hair is from Hair Witch or her hair is from Hair Witch?

Speaker 3:
[53:44] No, her hair is from, mine is by Billy Lamour.

Speaker 2:
[53:50] Lamour.

Speaker 3:
[53:51] This is by Hair Witch, who does the super huge wigs. This wig goes all the way down her back. Like, this is the size of hair you want.

Speaker 4:
[54:02] It's a finale.

Speaker 2:
[54:03] Did Hair Witch also do Kenya Pleas' hair?

Speaker 4:
[54:06] Possibly. I don't know. Or maybe I was.

Speaker 2:
[54:08] Because it's big too. Yeah. Beautiful.

Speaker 3:
[54:11] I'm also, I like Athena's makeup here. I mean, go for it. Look at how much black is in that eye and it's just yanked back to there. I like it.

Speaker 2:
[54:23] The tones. I love these sort of like this vintage gold and the white and the sequins and the accessories. I love the cape. I love, I think it's a beautiful, stunning look of a goddess, a Greek goddess. Because she's Greek. Because she's Greek. You might not know this about Athena Dion, but she's actually Greek American.

Speaker 1:
[54:46] She should do, I'm breaking dishes up in here all night, oh pa.

Speaker 2:
[54:53] Boom.

Speaker 3:
[54:54] Can you please her? The question remains.

Speaker 2:
[54:57] Oh my God.

Speaker 3:
[54:58] Talk about hair.

Speaker 2:
[54:59] Talk about hair.

Speaker 4:
[55:01] The girl said, oh y'all want wigs?

Speaker 2:
[55:05] She also said, You want hair? I am going to leave this ultimate episode of this competition with my most ultimate look to date.

Speaker 3:
[55:16] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[55:17] She also looks like a goddess. Just stunning.

Speaker 3:
[55:22] It's grand, it's over the top, it's theatrical, it's dramatic, it's very fun. And then she turns around and she's like, here's my ass, oops, oops.

Speaker 2:
[55:34] I love this so much.

Speaker 3:
[55:36] I love those earrings.

Speaker 2:
[55:37] That hair, this beautiful like tribal body paint.

Speaker 3:
[55:42] Her mug is really out of control too. Discordica Adamziana. Oh, she's wearing safety pins.

Speaker 2:
[55:54] Cheeky, a nod, a throwback. The safety pin is this season's sponge.

Speaker 4:
[56:00] It is, it is.

Speaker 2:
[56:03] Pin it up.

Speaker 3:
[56:04] I can't believe this. Fucking cool, man.

Speaker 2:
[56:09] This is stunning. Do we think she made this?

Speaker 3:
[56:13] Probably, she does all, she does get down with all the, and that cape, how many safety pins are going on on this garment?

Speaker 2:
[56:21] What poor creature had to die for you to have that coat?

Speaker 1:
[56:25] Do you know how many poor creatures I had to fuck to get this coat?

Speaker 2:
[56:30] It's a beautiful, beautiful gown. It's a beautiful, beautiful gown. But also, I love this punk spike hairdo.

Speaker 3:
[56:36] I do too.

Speaker 2:
[56:37] With the crystal tips and the safety pins and the hardware in the hair.

Speaker 4:
[56:44] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[56:46] I don't know if I've seen safety pins worn as intentionally visible accessories before in the hair.

Speaker 3:
[56:52] Oh, yeah, it's amazing. And she looks evolved from her season.

Speaker 2:
[57:01] Something we didn't talk about last week was that her outfit was not just the Mugler reference, but the Mistress Isabel Brooks outfit, which I did learn about from the Race Chaser Instagram account.

Speaker 3:
[57:17] Also, yeah.

Speaker 6:
[57:17] And the Naomi Smalls.

Speaker 2:
[57:19] And the Naomi Smalls.

Speaker 3:
[57:20] It's been referenced a lot, but for good reason.

Speaker 2:
[57:23] Sorry, you were talking about evolution.

Speaker 3:
[57:25] Evolution Lopez. I come from the olden days of Drag Race, where like a year would go by since, you know, filming the season and then going back for a finale. So you really saw queens like really looking different. Maybe it was just filler, but they really had time to like evolve their look. And I think some of these queens have definitely done that. And this is a very short amount of time, though. Like six weeks, isn't it? Jane Doe.

Speaker 2:
[57:55] Jane Doe. For me, the winner of season 18.

Speaker 3:
[58:03] She's wearing dragonflies.

Speaker 2:
[58:07] A dragonfly.

Speaker 3:
[58:09] A dragonfly. Mama in this Bernadette Peters curly hair, this gold dress with the red coming out the bottom. I love it.

Speaker 2:
[58:21] Trend Alert, Punk Spikes.

Speaker 3:
[58:23] Sure. It's drag. It's her. It's fierce. I like it.

Speaker 2:
[58:30] How do we feel about, is it an, I don't know if it's a nose ring or if you bite down on it. I think it's a nose ring.

Speaker 3:
[58:38] No, it looks like she has a fucking popsicle in her mouth.

Speaker 2:
[58:41] I can't work out. I just think it's doing-

Speaker 3:
[58:45] With the earring on the end of it.

Speaker 2:
[58:48] I just, I would love to see her beautiful face. It feels like she's, was she silent or was she silenced? Is this a comment?

Speaker 3:
[59:00] Maybe she, yes, I think maybe she was sending a message. There is a bug covering my mouth.

Speaker 2:
[59:06] If you need help, wear yellow flowers tomorrow.

Speaker 4:
[59:09] Oh, there is that.

Speaker 3:
[59:11] She looks great.

Speaker 2:
[59:12] Stunning.

Speaker 3:
[59:13] Juicy. Love.

Speaker 2:
[59:15] Still no wig.

Speaker 3:
[59:17] She will not put on hair. She won't do it and I love it.

Speaker 2:
[59:23] She'll wear a pussy cat like glued down finger wave, like a skull cap. It's probably on a skull cap based those wigs that she wears.

Speaker 3:
[59:33] If you do it long enough, people will get used to it and it will become your thing and it will become a cunt. So I'm glad she stuck to it. She will never put on a fucking wig.

Speaker 2:
[59:43] Also in this economy, you don't have to pay for wig styling.

Speaker 3:
[59:45] No mama, she's like, make me a fucking hood with feathers and fucking things sticking out of it.

Speaker 2:
[59:51] I really enjoy this to be honest.

Speaker 3:
[59:52] It's beautiful. Looking like a sad bird like Ava Perrone. Yeah. That's a Courtney. Bianca said that to you on season six.

Speaker 2:
[60:05] I look like a beautiful, sad bird.

Speaker 1:
[60:07] Looking like a sad bird like Ava Perrone.

Speaker 2:
[60:11] If anybody-

Speaker 3:
[60:12] Lashes, hair, lipstick. So Lauren, but call me-

Speaker 2:
[60:16] Make an Argentine rose. She looks fierce. Nobody can come for me in that look. Sorry, Bianca. That is a defining image of RuPaul's Drag Race season six.

Speaker 3:
[60:27] She's known for her beauty, so you should really take her out.

Speaker 2:
[60:29] She's pretty in her own unique way.

Speaker 3:
[60:31] Sorry, Nor. Juicy love, you look great. Now, Darlene Mitchell.

Speaker 2:
[60:38] From trash to treasure. Ah. I love it.

Speaker 3:
[60:45] Where have I heard that before?

Speaker 6:
[60:47] Didn't you say that on television?

Speaker 3:
[60:51] Many, many times.

Speaker 2:
[60:52] You know what this looks like?

Speaker 3:
[60:54] What?

Speaker 2:
[60:55] This looks like a dress that AI made.

Speaker 3:
[60:58] Oh, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[60:59] It looks like it's pulled all of these different elements of dresses and put them together in a way that no human would ever do because it's ugly, but it's wonderful.

Speaker 3:
[61:14] Yes. It's absurdist.

Speaker 2:
[61:17] It is absurdist.

Speaker 3:
[61:18] I mean, there are so many different elements, so much like clashing colors and design and yeah, you're absolutely right. And yeah, it works.

Speaker 2:
[61:28] It really works. It's like a piece of contemporary art. Like I feel that this, I could see this in an art gallery.

Speaker 3:
[61:36] Yeah. It's fun.

Speaker 4:
[61:39] Fun, playful use of color. All in all, not bad.

Speaker 2:
[61:43] And I'm going to say that I think the thing that people are talking about when they're talking about Darlene with the possibility of winning the season, looking the way she does. I think, I think they're talking about the weeks. Cause she wears like a hard front. Like that's her thing. Bring back hard fronts.

Speaker 3:
[62:02] Bring them back.

Speaker 2:
[62:03] And he brought back hard fronts during the pandemic and they're a revolution.

Speaker 3:
[62:07] And here Darlene is continuing that charge.

Speaker 2:
[62:09] Continuing that legacy.

Speaker 3:
[62:11] I love it.

Speaker 2:
[62:12] I love it.

Speaker 3:
[62:13] Fierce. And I love the hard front. Momma, how easy was it for her to get in drag that day? Just, okay, should we go? Why is everyone taking so long?

Speaker 2:
[62:23] Clip on earrings.

Speaker 3:
[62:24] What's going on? Bring back quick drag. Okay. Myki Meeks.

Speaker 6:
[62:28] What is she wearing?

Speaker 4:
[62:30] What is that hip thing? Why does that look crazy?

Speaker 2:
[62:34] It does look a bit crazy.

Speaker 6:
[62:35] So when she posed with her hands on her hips, they go inside, like to the nude illusion. So it's almost like a floating hula hoop kind of around her.

Speaker 3:
[62:44] Oh, okay, okay, okay. From this angle, it looks very strange, but she looks like a Bellagio fountain.

Speaker 2:
[62:50] She does.

Speaker 3:
[62:50] Like, you know, golden shower streams shooting off of her.

Speaker 2:
[62:55] She looks stunning. This hair is magnificent.

Speaker 3:
[62:58] Really, really good.

Speaker 2:
[62:59] It's a little bit like a RuPaul supermodel, like original, but in a dark color, with that crisp, beautiful curl that Matthew did.

Speaker 3:
[63:10] Beautiful, expensive, stunning.

Speaker 2:
[63:16] Finale, gold, winner, gold medal.

Speaker 3:
[63:19] Those aren't bugle beads, but they look like those little hanging things that are like little golden bananas, banana sequins. Beautiful. Ninny Coco.

Speaker 2:
[63:31] Oh, beautiful. Who will?

Speaker 3:
[63:35] She said...

Speaker 2:
[63:36] Is this a 3D printed hair?

Speaker 3:
[63:40] Girl, I don't know, but it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2:
[63:42] It is pretty cool. I really like the tones of this skirt. We've got like these almost like autumnal tones of like silk coming sweeping across the body. I would have loved to have seen some of that brought up into the top of the gown somehow. I love the noodle illusion, but I would have loved...

Speaker 4:
[64:06] I don't know what I would have...

Speaker 2:
[64:08] A collar? Some sort of like fabulous collar that incorporated those colors because it just feels a little separate to me.

Speaker 3:
[64:17] If this was to derboot and we were doing a trend alert, it would be this sort of like, I am a gorgeous woman and I'm stepping into like a completely disconnected dress. Jane Don't had a similar thing.

Speaker 2:
[64:30] Yes, yes.

Speaker 3:
[64:31] And like, I get that that's like the thing.

Speaker 2:
[64:35] It is actually stepping out of another gown.

Speaker 3:
[64:38] Yeah, because like you don't maybe want to be swallowed up by all of it. So, but I, you know, I would, I agree. I would like to see some sort of tie in with the top.

Speaker 2:
[64:50] I think she looks stunning though. And I love this hair. It's very interesting.

Speaker 3:
[64:57] Now we have to make some difficult decisions, Courtney. This is the moment where we choose our biggest dispute of the week. Who missed the mark? Who didn't elevate quite as much as the other girls?

Speaker 2:
[65:11] This is going to be tough. This is the finale. These girls have bought their best and they look stunning.

Speaker 3:
[65:17] They showed up with dollars.

Speaker 2:
[65:20] But I have an answer.

Speaker 3:
[65:23] I also have an answer.

Speaker 2:
[65:26] I have a feeling we're going to be aligned on this.

Speaker 3:
[65:29] I would say me a star.

Speaker 2:
[65:31] Me a star.

Speaker 3:
[65:33] All right. Just because of some slight proportionizing issues, she does look beautiful. But you know, it's our responsibility. We have to make these decisions.

Speaker 2:
[65:47] This is what responsible journalism looks like.

Speaker 3:
[65:49] It's not like we just arbitrarily made up this category and just do it by choice every week. We have to do it. We owe it to our listeners. Legal, yes.

Speaker 2:
[65:59] I signed an NDA and I signed a legal form saying that I had to commit.

Speaker 3:
[66:05] You did.

Speaker 2:
[66:05] To Gadarella of the Week.

Speaker 3:
[66:07] And I'm glad you did. And thank you for, oh dear.

Speaker 2:
[66:10] Thank you for being woman enough to sign it.

Speaker 3:
[66:12] This is the moment where we choose our top salute of the week, where if we both unanimously choose the same person, they win a fabulous prize. What fabulous prize, you're wondering.

Speaker 2:
[66:22] Oh, what fabulous prize.

Speaker 3:
[66:23] Well, have you been enjoying your red cosmetic bag?

Speaker 2:
[66:27] I've been enjoying my Alaska Thunderfuck red neoprene cosmetic bag that is such a lovely size to fit everything in. And if you unzip it, it contains additional bags inside. People say you shouldn't put a hat on a hat, but putting a bag inside a bag makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3:
[66:46] It contains multitudes.

Speaker 2:
[66:48] It does. And as do we.

Speaker 3:
[66:49] I encourage you to go to to get your hands on one of those while they last. And also I wanted to throw in something else from alaskathunderfuck.com, the black Alaska bucket hat. Because it's the finale. This is sort of, this could be your crown. If we both choose the same person. Now, this is where the decision must be made. Who was I cooing and calling over here? So, Lauren, but call me.

Speaker 2:
[67:24] In Houghton Tyne Rhymes.

Speaker 1:
[67:25] I want to be loved.

Speaker 2:
[67:27] I want to be rainbow high. They took my favorite line out of, or maybe they put it into the film, but it wasn't in the West End production that I recently saw, which was, there is no soap, no soap like jazz, no detergent lotion, no air with such power. In the shower, it's the mother and father of luxury. Anyway, we've got a show to do. Are you ready?

Speaker 3:
[67:50] My top salute of the week is Vida Von T Star!

Speaker 1:
[67:59] You're a winner, baby!

Speaker 3:
[68:02] Vida, well done, beautiful work, and you will be receiving these very special prizes. We thank you so much.

Speaker 2:
[68:10] Thank you. This is drag excellence for me.

Speaker 3:
[68:13] Unbelievable. It was tight, though.

Speaker 2:
[68:16] Simple and elegant, but also over the top and stunning and just perfection.

Speaker 3:
[68:22] We loved it. That's it for our fashion segment, The Runway Rundown, so let's take a break and we'll be right back. We are back, and it's always fun to see the girls return from the previous season. So Anya Nerve comes back to the main stage. This is her moment to look the best she's ever looked, and I think she achieved.

Speaker 2:
[68:56] I think she achieved it.

Speaker 3:
[68:57] She looks great.

Speaker 2:
[68:58] She looks fucking beautiful, man.

Speaker 3:
[69:00] I love this hair. I love this head wrap. I love the sweeping sculpted things on this gown.

Speaker 2:
[69:10] And I love the way it starts at the shoulder and it continues down all the way around the gown. The theme is continued to the floor. It's like Cinderella.

Speaker 3:
[69:19] Yes, it is. Like the magic is swooping around.

Speaker 2:
[69:22] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[69:23] Yeah. And I love that RuPaul has a conversation with someone while looking across at the other side of the room. If you've ever wanted to know what talking to RuPaul is like, this is what it is.

Speaker 2:
[69:33] They do warn you.

Speaker 3:
[69:34] Imagine you're looking at her and she is looking at the other side of the room and saying, so how have you been since your season, kiddo?

Speaker 2:
[69:45] Courtney, look at me, Courtney. I have one word for you. Humanity.

Speaker 1:
[69:50] Humanity.

Speaker 3:
[69:53] Anya looks great. And Ru announces that someone's getting the chop. Someone's getting Alexis Mateo on this day. And it was Darlene Mitchell. It was not her moment.

Speaker 2:
[70:05] It came as a surprise to me. This moment. Because I actually thought that Darlene might be the winner of this season. I mean, since Jane Tone was eliminated.

Speaker 3:
[70:16] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[70:17] And so this was interesting because I thought it was going to come down to maybe Darlene and Myki. And it came down to Meekie. Meekie. It came down to Myki Meeks and Nini Coco.

Speaker 3:
[70:30] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[70:32] Nini Coco, who's already a winner because she got a hot boyfriend.

Speaker 3:
[70:34] I think, right. Exactly. I think that they are now looking at like who do we want to have as like a fixture of the next All Stars and then the versus the world. And they look at someone like Darlene and it's like we would be foolish to give her a crown now because then she won't be able to return until we do All Winners 2. I still haven't gotten that call. Okay. But you know what I mean? Like she seems like a wow sort of like fixture now.

Speaker 2:
[71:12] Yeah, come back clean.

Speaker 3:
[71:14] Yeah. And so they want to have her back for something. So yeah, they said, no, hit it to the house. We want to see a lip sync off between these two divas.

Speaker 2:
[71:24] Isn't that what they did with Jane though? That's why Jane went home early so they can bring her back. I mean, I know that they get to bring everybody back eventually. But I do feel, I feel like Myki Meeks is a stable winner. Like she, she stands strong, like she's, anyway, I'm jumping ahead.

Speaker 3:
[71:45] She did really strong the whole season. She's good at everything. She can talk and like give the RuPaul product. So she's a fabulous winner. This lip sync was to Every Girl You've Ever Loved by Miley Cyrus.

Speaker 2:
[72:01] Featuring Naomi Campbell. Not mentioned on the episode. Can I say, is there beef?

Speaker 4:
[72:06] Must be, must be.

Speaker 3:
[72:07] RuPaul said there's only one supermodel bitch. This was a fun lip sync. Nini Coco was carrying a purse for some reason. Oh, it turned into a puppet. Listen, I don't get it. But why not?

Speaker 2:
[72:19] Everybody loves puppets.

Speaker 3:
[72:20] Everybody does.

Speaker 2:
[72:21] I think it's a commentary on the fashion industry and Naomi Campbell. I don't think I can make anything out of this, but she, lip syncs Naomi Campbell's lyrics with the puppet.

Speaker 3:
[72:32] That part, I get.

Speaker 2:
[72:33] But she didn't want to confuse the audience by lip syncing two different voices in one song.

Speaker 3:
[72:37] Standing there dressed like the devil holding a purse. It seemed strange, but it had a payoff. So good job. And honestly, they both did an amazing lip sync.

Speaker 2:
[72:48] Did they know what the song was because Myki looks like she dressed for the song?

Speaker 3:
[72:52] Nini said, I'm Nicole Kidman going into the movie theater by myself.

Speaker 2:
[72:56] Very that we come to this place for magic. For magic.

Speaker 3:
[73:01] Heartbreak feels good in a place like this.

Speaker 2:
[73:03] Heartbreak feels good in a place like this.

Speaker 3:
[73:05] Dazzling colors on a giant silver screen.

Speaker 2:
[73:08] Dazzling colors on a giant silver screen.

Speaker 3:
[73:10] No one can clock my film lace.

Speaker 2:
[73:13] No one can clock my film lace.

Speaker 3:
[73:15] Myki Meeks is the winner. Live fiercely, live boldly and write it in the books baby. The Meeks shall inherit the crown.

Speaker 2:
[73:25] Great line, I will say.

Speaker 3:
[73:27] Very good.

Speaker 2:
[73:28] Although she wasn't given a crown. She was only given a scepter. But don't let the truth stand in the way of a well written line.

Speaker 6:
[73:36] She got the crown later when they put them all in that hotel room and made them watch it live.

Speaker 2:
[73:40] She did.

Speaker 3:
[73:41] She did and she looks beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[73:43] And what was she wearing when she got the scepter? Were they in these outfits? The lip sync outfits? Or was there a 17th outfit that they had to wear?

Speaker 6:
[73:50] No, the lip sync outfits.

Speaker 3:
[73:52] Yeah. Congratulations to Myki Meeks and we're off to All Stars.

Speaker 1:
[73:59] Okay, here we go.

Speaker 3:
[74:01] Girl, they were airing commercials for All Stars during this. I was like RuPaul got off my neck.

Speaker 2:
[74:05] You know what else they were airing commercials for? Actual television commercials on MTV for Basco.

Speaker 1:
[74:12] Basco.

Speaker 2:
[74:13] Her tour. That was so cunt. Having an ad for your touring drag show on MTV in prime time, Friday night. That's money.

Speaker 6:
[74:25] There's also an ad for Basco's tour on this YouTube episode.

Speaker 2:
[74:28] Well, I'm glad I mentioned it.

Speaker 3:
[74:30] Hallelujah.

Speaker 2:
[74:31] That's what you get. You don't just get what you pay for here at MOM Podcasts, you get extra.

Speaker 3:
[74:38] All Stars 11 doesn't premiere for a few weeks, so we're picking up where we left off. Back to Season 10, Classique State of Mind and Classique Tiara. And we thank you so much for joining us for Race Chaser. Oh, Courant this week.

Speaker 4:
[74:54] My name is Alaska.

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[75:48] And please email us at racechaserpodcast.gmail.com. We want to hear from you. So if you have a question about something we've said or a spreadsheet or some bonafide scuttlebutt, we want to hear it.

Speaker 2:
[75:59] Pie chart.

Speaker 3:
[76:01] We'll be back next week with more discussion, dissection, and dissemination.

Speaker 5:
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Speaker 5:
[76:44] Race Chaser is produced by moguls of media, aka Mom.

Speaker 3:
[76:47] Hosted by Alaska and Willam.

Speaker 5:
[76:49] Produced by Big Dipper.

Speaker 3:
[76:50] Editing and sound design by Will Pitts and Scott Anderson.

Speaker 5:
[76:53] Media and design support by Stone Cold.

Speaker 3:
[76:56] Our theme song is Race Chaser by Alaska.

Speaker 5:
[76:59] Executive produced by Alaska Willam, Big Dipper, Camille Stennis and Joe Silear.

Speaker 3:
[77:02] Recorded at Forever Dog Productions.

Speaker 2:
[77:08] I would like a ring. I would like a ring. I would like a diamond ring on my wedding finger. I would like a big and shiny diamond that I could wave around and talk and talk about it until the day is done. Forgive me Lord, that I could ever doubt it. Married.