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Speaker 1:
[00:00] We found out my mom had been lying about us about having stage two cancer and it was stage four. Every day she was like, really, get up and make sure she take her morphine so she can have that phone call. I was pissed at them.
Speaker 2:
[00:14] God, man, I didn't even know how to say it. I didn't even know how to say that.
Speaker 1:
[00:17] And then I just went out there, I just had the wrong shorts on.
Speaker 2:
[00:20] They was just laughing at me and shit.
Speaker 1:
[00:22] Magic Johnson and LeBron James, my favorite people. I couldn't be happier around them because they was laughing too.
Speaker 3:
[00:52] Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharpe. Club Club Shay Shay, stopping by for Conversation on the Drink today. He's your favorite player, favorite player. He's one of the most talented and gifted scorers ever to pick up a basketball. He's one of the best college freshmen of all time. Big 12 player of the year, Big 12 freshman of the year at AAU Phenom. He was McDonald's All-American Game MVP, a BIG3 champion and back to back BIG3 MVPs. Some call him one of the best one-on-one players we've ever seen. He's an elite scorer, a generational talent and a walking bucket. A viral internet sensation, a beloved player by NBA fans around the country. Here he is, Beasley, Michael Beasley. Thanks for stopping by, bro.
Speaker 1:
[01:37] I didn't think you were talking about me at first.
Speaker 3:
[01:39] That's you. Beasley, every time we have a Club Shay Shay episode, we always toast because every guest that's come on here has accomplished something great. So we have a signature drink, my drink, which is Shay by La Portier. We're here at 11. Thank you, 11, for hosting us. We got the very talented and lovely Marissa bringing us a drink. We got you what you asked for, a double shot. Me, I got a side cart.
Speaker 1:
[02:04] You mix?
Speaker 3:
[02:06] Yeah. Not normally, but I like side cart.
Speaker 1:
[02:09] How you deal with the hangovers?
Speaker 3:
[02:10] No, ain't no hangover because we don't add no artificial color or sugar. That's all natural. That's great. That's a Petite Champagne and a Ounie Blanc grape. I promise you, what you- Yeah, see? Go ahead, take your time. Do what you do.
Speaker 1:
[02:28] Now, I'm checking for teardrops.
Speaker 3:
[02:31] Normally, we have a Turkish Quartz glass that's specially blended to drink our cognac because 80 percent of it comes through your nose. When you nuzzle it, you don't get that burn, you don't get that F-ing that's hitting you in the head.
Speaker 1:
[02:50] I like it better than VSOP.
Speaker 2:
[02:52] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[02:54] Who's VSOP?
Speaker 1:
[02:56] You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:
[02:57] I'm not going to say it.
Speaker 2:
[02:59] They ain't paying me. I ain't going to say it.
Speaker 3:
[03:06] Go ahead, take your time.
Speaker 1:
[03:17] I'll put it next to XO.
Speaker 3:
[03:19] See, but I tell you, that's what it is. It's a VSOP that drinks like an SO.
Speaker 1:
[03:26] What's the price?
Speaker 3:
[03:29] This is, it all depends. We don't set the price. The retailer sets the price. So we sell it to them for one thing, and obviously they're gonna make their money. So it all depends on where you are.
Speaker 1:
[03:39] $100, $200, $200, what?
Speaker 3:
[03:42] Somewhere between $79 and $99.
Speaker 1:
[03:45] And it tastes, okay, I can do that.
Speaker 3:
[03:48] We'll ask, as a matter of fact, we won't give you a bottle before you leave.
Speaker 1:
[03:51] Yeah, my bottle's cost, you know.
Speaker 3:
[03:53] Yeah, I know your bottle's cost, yeah. So let's get right into it. From the DMV.
Speaker 1:
[03:58] I'm from DC.
Speaker 3:
[03:59] You're from DC.
Speaker 1:
[04:00] I'm from DC in PG County. Okay, so the DMV just really give it.
Speaker 3:
[04:04] DC., Maryland, Virginia, so.
Speaker 2:
[04:06] Yeah, we don't live on Virginia side.
Speaker 1:
[04:09] They don't live on our side. We don't disrespect to them and things like that, but the DMV is a new thing.
Speaker 2:
[04:14] All right.
Speaker 3:
[04:15] So you're from DC., Prince George County? Yeah. Okay. Growing up in DC as a child, what did Beas wanted to be when he was a kid?
Speaker 2:
[04:29] Honestly?
Speaker 3:
[04:30] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[04:31] A rapper?
Speaker 1:
[04:33] Really? One of those dealers. I don't want to say it online, but I was raised by... My uncle got the Rico the first time when I was eight, I think it was 97, 96. I was like seven. My dad, my grandfather did 99 years. He died, but he's Rob Banks.
Speaker 3:
[04:58] Damn.
Speaker 1:
[04:59] So I used to think...
Speaker 3:
[05:02] So that's what you grew up around and so that's kind of...
Speaker 1:
[05:04] But they all kept me on the basketball court. So I shot my first shot at three years old. I remember it, Walker Mill Park, Walker Mill Gardens, I think. And you know, back outside court. But when I first started playing organized, I was eight, John Edgar Howard. My uncle got locked up. This was like 97. My uncle got locked up and then I was just in the hood until I met KD.
Speaker 3:
[05:35] Were you an influence, so were you a kid because you mentioned your grandfather got locked up, your uncle got locked up, your father got locked up. So kind of like, who raised you? Who was the influence that you like kind of gravitated that made you think like, okay, you've got the basketball, but listening to you say, I want to be a rapper, which is not a bad profession. And then you're like, yeah, well, I ain't gonna say what else I wanted to be. So kind of like, you kind of gravitated towards people that you saw in the neighborhood that was kind of doing those kinds of activities.
Speaker 2:
[06:04] Yeah, that's how we get in trouble.
Speaker 3:
[06:06] Yeah, true, true.
Speaker 1:
[06:08] I was always bigger, right?
Speaker 3:
[06:10] So you were big for your age.
Speaker 1:
[06:12] So I didn't speak my first word till I was like three. Okay. But I was the size of a three year old at 10 months.
Speaker 3:
[06:22] Damn.
Speaker 1:
[06:23] So my mom used to tell the story all the time. She got into a car accident when I was a year old. And it was a soft accident. The officer came to her and was in such a distress. Man, we got to get your son to the hospital right away. He's unresponsive. He's not saying anything. We asked him his name. He don't know. He don't know his age. And she looked at him like, bro, he 11 months. You know what I'm saying? Like I was that big. So I skipped pre-K. I skipped. I was in kindergarten at like four years old. Right. So by the time I was in sixth grade or seventh grade, I was 11 in seventh grade. I was real young, 10th, 11th, and seventh grade. So I was always just doing what they did. Like everybody just thought I was older. Everybody always thought I was older. And I couldn't talk at first. And by the time I learned to speak, I learned you would do it for me. So just play dumb, right?
Speaker 3:
[07:25] So you just sit back and let others talk for you.
Speaker 1:
[07:28] Yeah. And then when you don't say what I don't want to say, then I just don't kick it with you no more. But that's just my whole life. And I wasn't Michael Beasley until I was like maybe 15. Like right now, I'm just like, I was just Mike. They called me Little Mike. My dad was Big Mike. So I was just Little Mike. And my grandmother used to call me Boojie Man.
Speaker 3:
[07:52] Why is that?
Speaker 1:
[07:53] Because I don't eat leftovers. You know, this level couch?
Speaker 3:
[07:57] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[07:58] My great grandfather, Granddaddy Glanius, he died on a level couch. So I don't sit on level couches, especially if they don't got rips and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? We're in a strip club. I'm not sure why you got me here, but... You know? But yeah, like my, you know? So like I just always been like, like people see me and think they know because of my size and never heard the things I say. And then by the time they heard it, they deciphered your way in such as the, the glass being half full or half empty. They put your perspective on, right? And then the world just know you for what they know you for.
Speaker 3:
[08:35] You mentioned your grandfather, your father, your uncle. How different do you think your life would have been had you had those people in your life being in a more influential way and not doing what they did? How do you think that would have impacted you?
Speaker 1:
[08:50] I think I would have been a better person. I'm not sure if I would have been a better basketball player. I didn't become a good basketball player until I met Kevin Durant and Stink and Chuck and Carl Scott.
Speaker 3:
[09:10] People don't realize that you're only a year older than KD?
Speaker 1:
[09:13] I'm a year younger.
Speaker 3:
[09:14] KD is a year older than you.
Speaker 2:
[09:17] Well, not a whole year.
Speaker 1:
[09:21] He was born September 88?
Speaker 3:
[09:22] 98.
Speaker 1:
[09:23] 98? No, he wasn't.
Speaker 2:
[09:25] 88.
Speaker 3:
[09:25] 88? So KD is like 37, 38?
Speaker 1:
[09:28] And I was born January 89.
Speaker 3:
[09:30] Wow. I would have never guessed that, Beas. Why? Because when you did, hold on.
Speaker 1:
[09:39] You're telling me I look old?
Speaker 3:
[09:40] No, no, no, you don't look old, but I just think the thing is because Kevin Durant, and I think a lot of this is that Kevin is still playing, and you probably, we're going to get into that, Kevin is still playing at an elite level.
Speaker 1:
[09:52] Wait, wait, wait, I'm still playing at an elite level?
Speaker 3:
[09:54] But I'm just in the NBA.
Speaker 1:
[09:55] But, hey, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3:
[09:57] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[09:59] If you didn't breathe, is the air still here?
Speaker 3:
[10:03] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[10:05] So just because I'm not in the NBA, don't mean it's not elite in my gym too, right? I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3:
[10:11] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[10:11] But I'm still dribbling the basketball too, don't retire me early.
Speaker 3:
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Speaker 1:
[11:37] Kevin was the first person that's ever told me, don't do that, let's go to the gym. When the gym was closed, we used to go to the back of the gym and it was embarrassing at first, but whatever. It was a small seven-foot court and he was better than me first.
Speaker 3:
[11:57] Right.
Speaker 1:
[11:58] So he knew how to jump off one feet. I was a two-foot jumper.
Speaker 3:
[12:01] Right.
Speaker 1:
[12:02] And we used to try to dunk on each other.
Speaker 3:
[12:04] Right.
Speaker 1:
[12:04] All the time. He used to dunk on me so much because I didn't realize then, but he's stretched up over the one foot. Right. So like KD was the first person that, right? And then after that, I met and I ultimately fell in love with Nolan Smith. And he taught me with basketball.
Speaker 3:
[12:27] He ended up, didn't he go to Duke? Okay.
Speaker 1:
[12:30] They just go to Duke. He was Duke National Champion.
Speaker 3:
[12:33] Yeah. Whatever.
Speaker 1:
[12:35] But yeah, I fell in love with Nolan and Nolan became my brother. And I lived with Nolan from 14 to when I was at the college, 13 when I was at the college.
Speaker 3:
[12:45] You mentioned that you met KD and then, was that when your love of basketball took shape or you already played?
Speaker 1:
[12:50] I always loved it. I just didn't know how to love it because I only played outside. I played at nine, I played at John Edgar Howard, but then my uncle got locked up. That was my first understanding of the Rico and shit like that.
Speaker 3:
[13:05] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[13:06] But he was my only way to the basketball court. My mother raised us right, but she raised us how she could.
Speaker 3:
[13:14] Right.
Speaker 1:
[13:14] So she didn't know what she didn't know, right? She didn't know that I needed that at the time. He did. So from, he got locked up when I was eight, nine, from eight to 11, I didn't have basketball. Then I met Kevin at 11 turning 12. I start going on AU trips then, and then I met Nolan on 13, and then 14, I became Michael Beasley.
Speaker 3:
[13:45] So you had no other male influences, family members, your grandfather, father, uncle?
Speaker 1:
[13:52] No, my grandfather was like, okay, yes, I didn't have, like we used to go to Cumberland Jail.
Speaker 3:
[13:59] Cumberland Jail?
Speaker 1:
[14:01] Jail.
Speaker 3:
[14:01] Jail, okay.
Speaker 1:
[14:02] That's when my grandfather was locked up.
Speaker 3:
[14:03] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[14:04] So I'm not going to disrespect him because he did raise us. We used to go there every Thursday, and drive to three hours to go visit him, and my grandmother would tell him what we did for the week, right? It was a divider, right? And whenever we get in trouble, he'd be like, come on, let's pray. And we'd go up there and pray, and knock on your head all this time, right? So, and then every last Friday of the month, we'll go visit him for Family Day, and then there's no divider. We'll be outside with everybody. He'll just hug on us. I love my granddad, bro. I love it. What's the system that took them? My grandmother's child, she's like, bro, a couple of three hours away, I didn't realize when I was young, but we used to do that shit every week, every week. So yeah, I had male influences, but they all got locked up. My dad, my, you know, whatever, you know, whatever. Yo, I may cry sometimes, but just act like you don't notice, right? I'm tired of that part, right? I got to get it out at some point. I don't need that. I don't need that.
Speaker 3:
[15:18] You good?
Speaker 1:
[15:18] I don't need that. But yeah, yo, I love my granddad. He just died when I was nine.
Speaker 3:
[15:26] What did, he passed when you were nine, and to see the emotion, the raw emotion coming out of you 30 years, 20, 30 years later, what did that do? What did that do to Michael Beasley? To see your grandfather be incarcerated, never get an opportunity to see you outside, never get an opportunity to see what you became, Big 12 player of the year, Big 12 freshman of the year, number two overall draft pick. He never got an opportunity to witness that. And I know a part of you wanted him to see, because I know how proud you are of him and how proud he was of you. But he never got an opportunity to witness that.
Speaker 1:
[16:02] It was the first time I thought about that. And if I can answer it honestly, yes. I'm glad you didn't ask me last year or the year before, because I would have gave you a childish answer. If I can answer it honestly, I'm happy it happened the way it happened. Because I told you, he got 99 years. If he was to see that, it would be behind the jail cell. Right now, he can see it and be happy about it. So, if I had it, my way is selfish, right? Which is why we got to let go of the old us. It's selfish to know who we want to be tomorrow. So yeah, I miss my granddad, but I can't miss him no more than God has him.
Speaker 3:
[16:46] Your father, did you have a relationship with your father?
Speaker 1:
[16:50] Yeah, when I was young.
Speaker 3:
[16:52] What was that relationship like? Did he take you?
Speaker 1:
[16:55] You got kids?
Speaker 3:
[16:56] I do.
Speaker 1:
[16:57] So what was it like when you were young? Two, three, right? You loved him.
Speaker 3:
[17:02] Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:
[17:03] Your first one, how old is he?
Speaker 3:
[17:05] My oldest is a girl. My son is in the middle, 34. He'll be 34.
Speaker 1:
[17:09] Girl, boy, I tell everybody, you get from your girls in the first years of life what you want from your boys and vice versa. That's where the term momma's boy's girl and daddy's girl. So it's the same. My dad didn't have money.
Speaker 3:
[17:24] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[17:26] My mom thought she was doing what was best for who she was as a, right? At the time, this was 89, 90, a lot of new bills was coming up out, sending the three strike, a lot of that.
Speaker 3:
[17:44] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[17:44] I understand. So when my mom, my dad didn't want my mom anymore, and he told me this when I was 25. When my dad didn't want my mom anymore, then she made it hard to see us. So that's what happened to that relationship. I remember being mad at my dad.
Speaker 3:
[18:05] Because you didn't know the full story, huh?
Speaker 1:
[18:09] Then when I was 25, he told me the whole story. This is why I just want people to tell the truth. Because my dad told me the whole story, dog. I'm talking about I didn't have to say a word, because we used to grow up no food. Served sandwiches, we used to grow up with powdered milk. We used to grow up, you understand? Christmases. Damn, how the f*** did she do that? But when I was 25, my dad told me how she did it. Y'all used to come around with 4,000, and just because I didn't want to be with her, she would take 3,500, 3,800 and just send me on the way with 2,000. They won't let me see y'all. He told me the real side. And like I said, I don't blame my mom, because she was doing what she was doing, that she thought, right? But that just took years away from my dad. And when he told me the real story at 25, I got mad at my mom.
Speaker 3:
[18:59] But did you ask her, when you talk to your mom, say, Mom, this is what dad told me, is that what happened when I didn't see him as a child. What did she say to you, Mike?
Speaker 1:
[19:08] Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3:
[19:09] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[19:09] What woman in your life is able to take accountability?
Speaker 3:
[19:13] You got a point, Mike.
Speaker 1:
[19:14] They all wear makeup, right?
Speaker 3:
[19:15] You got a point, Mike. You got a good point, Mike. Accountability is hard sometimes for women.
Speaker 1:
[19:20] Yeah, so that led to me and my mom not talking for three years.
Speaker 2:
[19:24] Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1:
[19:25] And then I found out she had cancer, and then she died a year later. And then her world laughed at me for that, so I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 3:
[19:35] Is it true that when you met Kevin Durant on the basketball team, you stole the pizza?
Speaker 2:
[19:39] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[19:41] How you?
Speaker 1:
[19:42] Yeah, I had to.
Speaker 3:
[19:43] What do you mean you had to?
Speaker 1:
[19:44] Because I judge decisions and not choices.
Speaker 2:
[19:50] Right?
Speaker 1:
[19:50] You all think you know what you know and what you wouldn't do, but then at the same time, you boast to the world how you're the only one of your kind, and then chastise everybody else for not being like you. I wasn't like them. I was going home to five miles to feed, and my mother always told us, if you bring one in the house, you better bring enough for them all. So I wanted a slice of pizza, and at the same time, I didn't want my ass whupped. If I'd have came in a car, it was four people in the car in the back seat of a two-door Nissan Pathfinder. Man, you're stuck in it. Got in that shit. If I'd have got in with one slice man shit, I took the slice, whupped my ass, and none of us would have got a pizza. So yeah, I took half the slice, because half the slice was five. I was eating one and had four more. yo, I was the man in my house.
Speaker 2:
[20:44] Everybody was happy that day, huh? Bro, I got home, I was the first on an Xbox. Bro, for real, y'all laughing, bro, I got home, man, what? My mom, she had to cook dinner.
Speaker 3:
[20:55] Right.
Speaker 1:
[20:55] Bro, she made me a cool little, like my mom used to make this banana pudding, a little quick little, bruh, we're going to sleep.
Speaker 2:
[21:03] She bring me a little cup, dog, and that's why, man, listen, bro.
Speaker 1:
[21:08] But yeah, it happened. But it's like, dog, I had to.
Speaker 3:
[21:12] Listen to that you talk. It sounds like you had responsibilities, a man's responsibility as a child, because you thought and said, look here, I got brothers and sisters to feed at home. Now, I can't be full and have them be empty, and have you always thought like this? So coming up from the time you was like, you say 12, 13, have your whole life, you thought of yourself as a provider?
Speaker 1:
[21:37] Yes and no.
Speaker 3:
[21:38] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[21:39] So I wish I can tell you that, yeah, I was so mature and I had that mindset my whole life, but no, Fatima Smith had five kids. Antoine.
Speaker 3:
[21:50] Are you the oldest?
Speaker 2:
[21:51] No.
Speaker 1:
[21:51] Leroy Ellison, Diamond is the oldest. I'm the second.
Speaker 3:
[21:54] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[21:55] Diamond's the provider of the family.
Speaker 2:
[21:57] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[21:57] But we all had the same rules. You come in this house with one and not for all, then you get your ass whooped. So no, I wasn't mature. I was just scared of my mom.
Speaker 3:
[22:06] Right.
Speaker 1:
[22:06] You understand? And today, nobody's scared of their parents. So they go outside and nobody's scared of these coaches. So they go outside and nobody's scared of these officers. So they go outside and nobody's scared of life. I was just scared of my mom. I wasn't mature. I wasn't, you know, not.
Speaker 3:
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Speaker 1:
[23:56] KD talked about basketball.
Speaker 3:
[23:58] What did you talk about?
Speaker 2:
[24:02] I would listen a lot.
Speaker 1:
[24:05] Like me and KD, first, like when I first met him, and like it would translate on the basketball court, like all I would do is just rebound. Like I literally averaged like 30 rebounds playing with KD because the same way he played now, he played then. So he loved playing with me because I would just rebound and just throw it back to him.
Speaker 2:
[24:23] Rebound and just throw it back to him. You understand?
Speaker 1:
[24:25] So I didn't understand basketball, but passed the playground. KD was like he didn't know this. I didn't know this at the time, but he was teaching me basketball. He was teaching me the language. So I used to talk about dumb stuff. And Wanda used to smack me just like she's smacking him. But I was just always known for being a goofy kid. I didn't know at the time that I was like the bad mischievous kid. I was just always goofy and happy. And that's just all. I was always joking and just always just laughing and joking about something dumb and something. Like I remember the first time Ms. Wanda took us to a club, and not the club, the grocery store. Right. And I was like 11. I said, you know, I said, hey, man, look, like, you think they'll laugh if I do this in the club? I did a little funny dance.
Speaker 2:
[25:16] She like, man, what you know about the club?
Speaker 1:
[25:17] And I'm like, at the time, all I knew was where R. Kelly is, you know? I was just always that kid that just had a joke and just, you know, not, you know, just get my ass with it, you know? But, nah, KD used to talk about basketball all the time. Like, now that I think about, like, what he's doing today, you know, I understand manifestation like a muffle.
Speaker 3:
[25:42] That's what he talked about back...
Speaker 1:
[25:44] KD, like, KD love on more than I do. Like, if KD would stop, like, I want him to assemble league. When KD stop playing basketball, he's going to live in PG. County, man, somewhere. I don't know exactly where, so don't, don't go try looking for him or shit. But he love, like, he love that shit. He love that place more than I do. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3:
[26:01] Lethal Shooter. You grew up with Lethal Shooter?
Speaker 2:
[26:03] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[26:05] He was on... I went to National Christian. So when I first met KD, I tried to go to National Christian.
Speaker 3:
[26:14] Right.
Speaker 1:
[26:14] But I got kicked out because, like, we used to have to wear black socks.
Speaker 3:
[26:20] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[26:21] And I couldn't afford them. So I just show up in the socks that I had, like mismatched socks and stuff. I just get a little write-ups.
Speaker 2:
[26:26] Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:
[26:27] And on top of me being goofy and shit, I just get a little write-ups. And then I would never do my homework. I don't know why. Because I get home and this is all, and all that's still going on. So I will always forget by the time I understand. So I got kicked out of National Christian in the eighth grade. And but National Christian, it was me. It was Skinny. It was Dane's, Patrick Union Jr., Lethal Shooter. And he was shooting that mother f**ker like he's shooting that. Really?
Speaker 2:
[26:57] Hell yeah. That's what he was known for.
Speaker 1:
[27:00] Like he was never the greatest, most athletic basketball player. But before and back then, you would get in trouble for shooting those long threes.
Speaker 2:
[27:10] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[27:11] That's the only reason he didn't play a lot.
Speaker 3:
[27:12] Right.
Speaker 1:
[27:13] Because he didn't know how not to shoot those long threes.
Speaker 2:
[27:15] Man, he was shooting that mother f**ker.
Speaker 1:
[27:17] You know, but then when he get to his mid-range game, bro, you're going against KD so he can do what he's blocking shots.
Speaker 2:
[27:23] You understand?
Speaker 1:
[27:23] So it was like, it was hard for him to figure that part out. He eventually did.
Speaker 3:
[27:27] Right.
Speaker 1:
[27:27] And you see what he is today. But like, bro, he shoot that s**t from like, he step across the half and just let it go. You understand? When it go in, the whole gym, but when it don't, it's just back then.
Speaker 3:
[27:40] Coach will snatch you out of the game.
Speaker 1:
[27:41] Yeah. So yeah, I think if it was this era today, Lethal will be in the NBA just as, you understand? But back then, we like, if you shoot a fast breakthrough, you get, you know what I'm saying? So for sure, he was just ahead of his time.
Speaker 3:
[27:54] Yeah. Do you think more NBA players can have shooting coaches? Because I see him working with a lot of different people.
Speaker 2:
[28:00] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[28:02] Why not? You want to be the best.
Speaker 3:
[28:04] You do? Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[28:07] Sometimes you got to humble yourself to learn what you need to know. You don't know everything and pity to the fool do.
Speaker 3:
[28:15] The AAU culture. I've heard a lot of people say this, even KD spoke on it, LeBron spoke on it. I've seen a lot of prominent players that come up on the AAU culture that said the AAU culture is bad now. How different is the AAU culture now compared to when you grew up?
Speaker 1:
[28:30] Money?
Speaker 3:
[28:32] Damn. Money ruins everything, huh? Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[28:35] We didn't know about the money they was getting. We played for the love of the game.
Speaker 3:
[28:38] Correct.
Speaker 1:
[28:38] We played for a chance to go to college.
Speaker 3:
[28:41] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[28:41] We played for a chance to get an education.
Speaker 3:
[28:44] Right.
Speaker 1:
[28:44] Then we played for a chance to take care of our family.
Speaker 3:
[28:47] Right.
Speaker 1:
[28:48] NIL opened up the gates all the way down to 10 years old. Okay. News flash people, only 60 get drafted a year and 20 of those get cut. There's only been 4,800, roughly 5,000 people that's ever made it to the NBA. Chances are your son won't. Bro, they need to have fun first before they make money. That's what's wrong with A&U today. Everybody trying to make money and be the best fourth grader and the best third and best is like dog, play for the right reasons and the right things will come.
Speaker 3:
[29:26] Is it the parent? Because a lot of times parents are just-
Speaker 2:
[29:28] Yeah, it's the parents because kids don't know what they don't know.
Speaker 3:
[29:31] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[29:31] Kids only know what you tell them. Kids, right?
Speaker 3:
[29:34] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[29:35] You know, a two-year-old thinks he's God. Ask me why?
Speaker 2:
[29:40] Why?
Speaker 1:
[29:41] Because he doubled life and last year, he was just a blob, getting fed everything.
Speaker 3:
[29:46] Right.
Speaker 2:
[29:47] Now, he's climbing all over the ground.
Speaker 1:
[29:50] He thinks he conquered life.
Speaker 2:
[29:51] You're going to let him make a decision? He thinks he's God, he's a narcissist. Every two-year-old is, right?
Speaker 1:
[29:58] So these kids don't know what they don't know is my point.
Speaker 3:
[30:01] Right.
Speaker 1:
[30:02] It's up to these parents to stop thinking everything financial, because even if it comes, right? Let's just say, your youngest child make it to the NBA.
Speaker 3:
[30:11] Correct.
Speaker 1:
[30:12] Right? How much does he owe you for the 18 years of life he lived?
Speaker 3:
[30:19] He don't owe me nothing.
Speaker 1:
[30:20] Okay. So why are you so worried about how much money he make or doesn't? You should just be worried about a good person.
Speaker 3:
[30:27] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[30:28] You should be worried about the good morals. You should be worried about discipline. You should be worried about good health.
Speaker 3:
[30:32] Right.
Speaker 1:
[30:33] We all think money is going to bring that. That's why these BBLs are... Nobody just want to do a sit-up. Nobody want to eat.
Speaker 3:
[30:41] Do squats or lunges.
Speaker 1:
[30:42] Yeah, man.
Speaker 3:
[30:43] No, because I agree with what you said. I didn't have a child as an investment. Well, I'm going to have this kid and then eventually he's going to pay dividends. That's what I do with stocks. I'm not having a child to look at a return.
Speaker 1:
[30:55] Now, it's okay to invest in your kids.
Speaker 2:
[30:57] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[30:58] S&P, at day one, $100, just a month. By the time they turn 18, it'll be like 1.8.
Speaker 2:
[31:06] Right.
Speaker 1:
[31:06] Just compound. It's okay to invest in them. As children, teach them how to invest.
Speaker 3:
[31:12] But I'm not looking for a return on my investment. Just be a good kid, be a good person.
Speaker 1:
[31:17] The return is to go out and be respectful to the world.
Speaker 3:
[31:20] Not monetarily. Correct.
Speaker 1:
[31:21] Be respectful to yourself, understand God is above us all and don't judge nobody.
Speaker 3:
[31:25] Right.
Speaker 1:
[31:26] The best business to mind is your own. And that's the best way to make money.
Speaker 3:
[31:30] It's your own care. Let me tell you something. There are moves and then there are power moves. Like when a coach steps in and change the culture overnight. A power move. When a quarterback leaves a team that's a champion and he goes to another team and they become a champion. Yeah, that's a power move. Or when a basketball player pulls up from the logo. And before you know it, power move happens. That's what aunts love. And you know what else is a power move? Hiring Morgan & Morgan. They're the largest injury law firm in America. Over 100 offices, over 1000 lawyers, and they've recovered $30 billion for over 500,000 clients. I'm talking real wins too. $6.1 million in Florida when the offer was only $100K. $29.5 million in Georgia. $10.6 million in Nashville. So if you're injured because someone else messed up, don't play around with it. You deserve to get paid. Make a power move. Check out Morgan & Morgan. Their fee is free unless they win. Go to forthepeople.com/shannon or dial Pound Law. That's Pound 529 with your cell phone. That's F-O-R thepeople.com/shannon or Pound Law. This is a paid advertisement. But a lot of times the AAU coaches, they have these players and they're special. Michael Beasley, Kevin Durant or whomever coming out. And these AAU coaches, like if you send them to this place or you send them to that place or you let them get this shoe, there's a reward for said coach down the road.
Speaker 1:
[32:55] Money?
Speaker 3:
[32:59] So the money goes back to money is ruining things again.
Speaker 1:
[33:05] It's not the money that's the root of all evil. It's who controls the money, which becomes the root. Right?
Speaker 3:
[33:12] Right.
Speaker 1:
[33:12] When you make decisions from your stomach, then you have no oxygen for your brain, right? Kids don't know nothing, so, right? You got a phenom and this place is willing to pay you to bring that phenom to, right? Just $100,000, right? How much are you giving the kid? How much are you giving the kid's mom?
Speaker 3:
[33:35] Probably nothing.
Speaker 1:
[33:36] That's stealing, right? I found that out from my peers in the NBA Draft camp. That's how I grew up.
Speaker 3:
[33:44] So they're making money off you, but it ain't kick you nothing. It ain't kick your mom nothing. And know you were struggling. Know you got- Oh, no.
Speaker 1:
[33:48] This is how I knew that. So NBA Draft camp?
Speaker 3:
[33:52] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[33:53] Me, D-Rose, Ergoin, OJ. Mayo, all of them. We was in the room playing cards and stuff, right?
Speaker 3:
[33:59] Because a lot of y'all play on the McDonald's All-American team.
Speaker 1:
[34:01] We all knew y'all. They all looked at me and was like, Yo, Beasley, I know you was getting paid that out. No, I wasn't.
Speaker 2:
[34:07] Man, bro, for you to go here and you to go there and you to do that, you to do that.
Speaker 1:
[34:12] I was looking at them like, bro, y'all tripping.
Speaker 2:
[34:13] I've never got paid a dollar.
Speaker 1:
[34:16] But then they start naming dates and stuff. I'm like, oh shit, bro, he gave me $1,000 there. You know what? He gave me $1,500. Then, $1,000 at $14,000, $15,000.
Speaker 3:
[34:26] That's a lot of money.
Speaker 1:
[34:27] But now my peers are telling me that he was getting $100,000, he was getting $200,000, he was getting $50,000. My mom wasn't living like that. So then I called somebody I trusted that knew this person and said, you know, one, two, three. He looked at me and said, four, five, six. Seven, eight, nine is the rest. Then nobody paid attention. Right?
Speaker 3:
[34:58] So he's profited while you and your family's struggling.
Speaker 1:
[35:02] And then I still owe you when I get there? Would you know that I paid my childhood off $185-something when I found out? Like, same person had a receipt from 13 all the way to when I got drafted and I looked at it and it was sitting on there like McDonald's receipts. How about shit like that? Right? Plane tickets. It was shit like, and this is a real thing. We don't say names, right? You told me that, right? But bro, yeah, I had to pay my childhood back, so I don't owe no man for anything because the one, and then it's like I pay for, I raise myself.
Speaker 3:
[35:38] These?
Speaker 1:
[35:39] As well.
Speaker 3:
[35:39] Somebody kept documentation.
Speaker 1:
[35:42] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[35:42] They brought you-
Speaker 1:
[35:43] Why you say somebody like you didn't just say these coaches hold money?
Speaker 3:
[35:47] Your coach.
Speaker 1:
[35:48] These, I don't-
Speaker 3:
[35:49] Or handlers or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1:
[35:51] Yes.
Speaker 3:
[35:51] But it's the documentation.
Speaker 1:
[35:53] Of what?
Speaker 3:
[35:54] He kept documentation when I took beads to McDonald's, or I bought beads from shoes, or I did this, or I did that. From the time you were 13 to the time you were drafted.
Speaker 1:
[36:02] Which is what broke my heart.
Speaker 3:
[36:05] Because you thought he was doing it out of kindness of his heart.
Speaker 1:
[36:07] Which is why I just asked you, how much do you, for 18 years of his life, if you're a real dad, how much do you really- If your son grow up and become Elon Musk and only give you 10 grand or not even.
Speaker 3:
[36:23] My kid ain't got to give me nothing. My kid didn't ask to come here.
Speaker 1:
[36:25] Let's just talk real facts.
Speaker 2:
[36:27] It was my responsibility.
Speaker 1:
[36:29] I'm not going to... Later for the days that I just subscribe to whatever y'all say, either hear what I say or don't ask me. But this is real shit.
Speaker 3:
[36:39] High school. Is it true you went to six high schools?
Speaker 1:
[36:43] I went to seven elementary schools. I went to four middle schools. I went to six high schools.
Speaker 3:
[36:52] You went... You're a freshman, national Christian, 30 points, 10 rebounds. Sophomore year, Riverdale Baptist, 28, 13 rebounds. Junior year, Oak Hill. Okay. What did I miss? What did we miss?
Speaker 1:
[37:06] I went national Christian.
Speaker 2:
[37:09] I went Loneburg Prep.
Speaker 3:
[37:10] Loneburg Prep, okay.
Speaker 1:
[37:11] I went IMG Academy.
Speaker 3:
[37:12] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[37:14] I went Riverdale Baptist.
Speaker 3:
[37:15] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[37:16] I went Oak Hill Academy.
Speaker 3:
[37:17] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[37:18] I went Notre Dame Prep.
Speaker 3:
[37:19] Okay. Why so many schools?
Speaker 1:
[37:29] Because I didn't understand who I was at the time, and I was just a jokester.
Speaker 3:
[37:32] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[37:32] Remember I told you the science thing?
Speaker 3:
[37:34] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[37:34] When you see me, I will be quiet first, so that people take that as maturity.
Speaker 3:
[37:39] Right.
Speaker 1:
[37:39] So then what I would do, like things a kid would do, not only would it surprise you because you think I'm older, right, but it extra surprise you because you don't know I'm actually younger.
Speaker 3:
[37:52] Right.
Speaker 1:
[37:53] Remember I was 11, 10 turning 11 in the seventh grade. All my peers was 12 turning 13.
Speaker 3:
[37:59] Right.
Speaker 1:
[38:00] That doesn't sound like a lot now, but a 13 to 11 year old, that's a very big maturity gap.
Speaker 3:
[38:06] So let me ask you a question. How tall were you? How tall were you 11, 12 years old? Six foot, six two, six three?
Speaker 1:
[38:12] 11, I was six one. You were like six one? Yeah. I was big my whole life. I never had a growth spurt. Like the only thing that grew on me, like from 11, 11 I wore 12. And then the summer eighth grade, from seventh grade to eighth grade, these sits went from 11 and a half to a 18 where they are today. Swear to God, that's not a, like my mother hated me that summer because she thought I was lying just to get new shoes that week. And every time we had goals, like dog bigger size, bigger force, six, seven months, bro feet was hurting.
Speaker 3:
[38:49] How did you find shoes of size 18?
Speaker 1:
[38:51] We did until I started playing basketball.
Speaker 3:
[38:55] So you basically had to wear basketball shoes the whole while.
Speaker 1:
[38:58] I wore the same, like my uncle that got locked up, before he got locked up, he gave me a pair of Damon Stardomiles. This is my favorite shoes ever. But they was a little too small.
Speaker 3:
[39:06] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[39:06] So when they really got small, I used to just step on them and just wear them as slippers. And then, you know, I stopped, like by the time I got, like my first pair of shoes in the 17, 18 was the Allen Iversons with the zipper.
Speaker 3:
[39:20] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[39:20] They got a lot of shits.
Speaker 1:
[39:22] My mom came home with them shits. But that's when I was able to, you know, retire the Damon Stoddermeyes because like my foot was hanging out. It was like that big.
Speaker 2:
[39:30] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[39:30] But like, so, but I was always tall my whole life.
Speaker 3:
[39:34] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[39:35] I stopped growing my third year in the league in Minnesota. I got drafted at like six, eight and a half with no shoes. And by the time I got to Minnesota, I'm like now I'm like six, 10 and a half.
Speaker 3:
[39:49] I mean, look at it, remember you're dominant. Every school that you went, was it hard being on your own? Cause you were on your own at these schools, right? Was it hard being? Cause like you said, you're a kid, you're 14, 15, 16. You're on your own. But I was used to it.
Speaker 1:
[40:03] I was on my own my whole life. I grew up with my mom when I stopped playing basketball and just started living with Nolan and his family. I was on my own then. I love Nolan, but waking up early. My grandma, she wake up 5.30 every morning. Yes. Start looking for change in the calcis and shit. Every morning, somebody put it there last night. But every morning, this is how I knew God is. This is my first life. Every morning, she'll wake us up 5.30. Man, I got to go, I got to go and find a dollar and 10 cents to get on the bus early, early. Every morning, I swear to God. I'm just used to waking up early.
Speaker 3:
[40:43] Right.
Speaker 1:
[40:44] I move with Nolan, they don't wake up early, not as early as I do. I was tiptoeing around the house. I've just been alone my whole life. That's it. I've just been alone my whole life. Just been quiet my whole life. It's like when I come outside, I just be wanting to have fun or just joke or something. For some reason, the world judges your opinion like it's a test. So if I ask you, hey yo, what you think about the color green? And you just say, I don't like it because it reminds me of the forest. Now all of a sudden, you're just a forest killer. Right. So it's like we live in a society to where it's like you can't give opinion without it being graded like a test. And that's basically my whole life.
Speaker 3:
[41:26] McDonald's All-American Game, you won the MVP. Derrick Rose is in that game, James Harden is in that game, OJ. Mayo is in that game, Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan. You go to the McDonald's All-American, obviously you're one of the 24 best high school basketball players in America. You win the MVP. Is that, when did you know like, you know what? I can go to the MVP, I'm going to be great. When did Michael Beasley finally get down on him? I'm a bad mofo.
Speaker 1:
[41:55] By then, I was just mad.
Speaker 3:
[41:57] What were you mad about?
Speaker 1:
[41:58] I was the number one player in the country and I get to ESPN, and they got me ranked number six, and Kevin Love number one. No disrespect to Kevin Love because I love him, but ESPN been doing this for my whole life.
Speaker 2:
[42:07] Look at all of my stats.
Speaker 1:
[42:09] ESPN just make it a business to just erase my existence, even from what you just said. Nobody know I was the MVP. If you go to the McDonald's game, I'm not even in the hallway of the MVP. Why? ESPN. So the only reason I played that game, because I was going to go there, I twisted my ankle bad.
Speaker 2:
[42:31] So I wasn't going to play.
Speaker 1:
[42:32] But when I got there, I seen that ESPN had me rank number six.
Speaker 2:
[42:36] So go look at the game.
Speaker 1:
[42:37] My first shot of the game was a disrespectful one from half court. And I just happened to make it. So I stopped busting they ass.
Speaker 2:
[42:50] That's it.
Speaker 3:
[42:50] So you was on one. So you felt some type of way. You're like, I'm the number one player. I come to the McDonald's All-American Game. You got me ranked number six.
Speaker 1:
[42:56] I go to the practice and like Blake Griffin, I love this, bro. Blake Griffin has always been one of my favorite players. You understand? And when I first meet him, he dunking. That's why he the only one that did dunk contest, because I ain't no duck like that.
Speaker 3:
[43:12] Right.
Speaker 1:
[43:13] Right. Whatever. So Blake Griffin, he was just chopping it up and he was kind of unknown too.
Speaker 3:
[43:17] Right.
Speaker 1:
[43:17] And he the one brought it to my attention. I'm like, not even like disrespecting me, but like, yeah, that's weird because not only was I ranked differently than all of them, everybody else is ranked differently.
Speaker 3:
[43:28] Right.
Speaker 1:
[43:29] And Kevin Love was number one. Right. And like I said, no shot to Kevin Love, because Kevin, I love you.
Speaker 3:
[43:33] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[43:35] No pun intended. But I just remember being mad at that, because I worked for that number one spot, because I was chasing OJ.
Speaker 3:
[43:44] Mayo.
Speaker 2:
[43:44] That's how-
Speaker 1:
[43:45] Yes. I was chasing OJ. Mayo, my whole, and then when I finally get here now, OJ. Mayo ain't even a thing to chase.
Speaker 2:
[43:51] Like, okay, what do I was, you know.
Speaker 1:
[43:52] It was just confusing to 17, 18 year old.
Speaker 3:
[43:55] Right.
Speaker 1:
[43:55] So then when I went, and then number six, that's when I was like, because I wasn't even going to play, like I said, I was hurt. So I was just on some district, like some fuck y'all shit, and I wish I wasn't because that was my hood side. If I could have been professional, I would have really gave it my all, and then probably would have had 40 points on it. It has 50 points.
Speaker 3:
[44:15] But you made it your mission, you made it your mission that you was going to destroy that game, that you was going to destroy those guys in that game.
Speaker 1:
[44:22] After I made the first shot?
Speaker 3:
[44:23] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[44:24] Like going up into the, I was just remember being confused, but when I made the first shot, I was like, oh, these are the trash.
Speaker 3:
[44:29] You took a shot from half court, how they trash? They ain't guarding that, Beas.
Speaker 1:
[44:33] That ain't my fault.
Speaker 3:
[44:40] Were the guys better than you expected? It's like, okay. I mean, I had teammates that.
Speaker 1:
[44:46] Honestly?
Speaker 3:
[44:46] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[44:47] I'm going to be 100 percent honest. The only people I couldn't wrap my head around out of that group, Derrick Rose, because I don't realize how tall he is. He's like a real 6'4.
Speaker 3:
[45:08] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[45:09] Yo, I ain't never seen nobody that fast in my mother's life. Then we jump out. He runs so fast too and jumps straight up.
Speaker 2:
[45:23] Man, I ain't never seen no shit like that in my life.
Speaker 1:
[45:26] Taking the contact and just, boom. OJ. Mayo was drawing before all of us. The step backs that KD see today, he was throwing since 13. Ask everybody. No, I ain't going to lie to you. Then Blake Griffin, I could not believe he jumped that powerful. Then Kevin Love, he broke. Kevin Love can throw a chest pass. I'm mad he never did this in NBA. Kevin Love throws a chest pass from full court like Wes Unsell.
Speaker 3:
[46:00] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[46:00] Bro, those right there, that's when I was like, God damn, these are different. Because nobody knows I was a hood in the hall. I didn't find out about AAU basketball until I was 11. I didn't know AAU world was a thing. So I got there. I was just impressed, but I was just mad because they ranked me number six.
Speaker 3:
[46:22] Are you the best one and done player? Because when you look at just, I think your first game, you had like 30 and 20.
Speaker 1:
[46:29] Again, I was mad.
Speaker 3:
[46:31] Why?
Speaker 1:
[46:33] David Hoskins.
Speaker 3:
[46:36] I'm not familiar with the name.
Speaker 1:
[46:38] David Hoskins played there before me. He got injured, so he was-
Speaker 3:
[46:41] He played K-State?
Speaker 1:
[46:43] David Hoskins was real strong, real buff. I love that, Detroit, real cool. But whenever it comes to basketball, he will always tell me, like, hey bro, we practiced a few times. And he'd be like, hey bro, you took a lot of shots today. Just know when I come back, you ain't getting that many shots. Like, he just always, for no reason. And I never knew why. Because I was 17 in college. Turned 18. So it was like, I think he was like the third, fourth year in college and shit. But it's like, I used to always be mad at him.
Speaker 2:
[47:14] Like, man, why the you keep wanting something, you know?
Speaker 3:
[47:16] What you want, bro?
Speaker 2:
[47:17] We'd be kicking it.
Speaker 1:
[47:18] And he'd just, bro, I just know you ain't getting them shots.
Speaker 2:
[47:20] Yeah. All right.
Speaker 1:
[47:23] That shit pissed me off. Like, a couple of them old pissed me off. Yeah, but I love them. But that's like, I was just mad, man. And then Frank, Frank, right, Frank stuck his, like, every time I got in trouble, this is where I learned discipline. Every time I thought a joke, a joke, a joke, I was flipping a 600-pound tire. 600 pounds, 100 yards, 150 yards, 1,000 yards. Like, what did he do to it? Like, Scott Greenwell got mad at Frank. He came to Frank and said, yo, I gotta, I gotta find something else because he's having fun with my discipline. Like, Scott used to make me flip that tire, he used to go on that, flip that bitch. Because I used to give him jokes so much, like, dumb. This much, I was just 17.
Speaker 3:
[48:00] Right.
Speaker 1:
[48:01] Right. But David Hoskins just pissed me off and just like, I just got to show you. And I didn't mean to score those points. Like, the points is just me being-
Speaker 3:
[48:08] Why you actually didn't have, what was it, a 30-20 or 40-20 game that you had, your first game? Your first college game.
Speaker 1:
[48:13] I don't remember. It was like, I just remember I had-
Speaker 3:
[48:15] It was a crazy game.
Speaker 1:
[48:16] I had like 20 rebounds.
Speaker 3:
[48:17] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[48:18] But I just always focused on rebounds. I just always focused on rebounds. So the points came, they just came. I didn't even know I was a scorer.
Speaker 3:
[48:26] I don't know if people realize this. You averaged more points, more rebounds, shot a higher percentage than Kevin Durant, and your 28 double-doubles broke the freshman double-double record, previously held by Carmelo Anthony. Do people realize how great you were that one year at K-State B's? Do they realize how great you were of all the one-and-dones? And they've been some great one-and-dones. But do people realize just how great you were? Or do you realize it?
Speaker 1:
[48:52] I just told you ESPN do their best to try to... That's just really all I can be. I know what I did. And the day before my first game, I text KD. He ain't never said it, I ain't never said this. I wish I still had that phone. Text KD and was like, dog, how did you do it? Like, how I do what? Like, bro, you Irish. Bro, you did what you did last year, bro. Like, what the...
Speaker 2:
[49:18] You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:
[49:19] He literally texted me. He's like, bro, you better than me. That's easy for you. Enough said.
Speaker 2:
[49:27] You know?
Speaker 1:
[49:28] Like, Kevin gave me the confidence to do that shit, right? And not to say that he knew or I knew I was going to do what I did. But, like, that's a real conversation, real text. And, you know, it's just happened that way.
Speaker 3:
[49:44] I'm going to pick... I want you to pick your all-time starting five with one and done from this list. I'm going to give you KD, Anthony Davis, Zion, Mello, Kyrie, Joe LMB, Derrick Rose, Michael Beasley.
Speaker 1:
[49:58] I'm going to take Derrick Rose at the one.
Speaker 3:
[50:01] Yep.
Speaker 1:
[50:06] I'm taking... I want to go big because I need rebounds. So I'll take KD at the two.
Speaker 3:
[50:11] Okay. Damn. You got to make it after.
Speaker 1:
[50:14] I'll take Zion at the three.
Speaker 3:
[50:15] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[50:18] I'll take AD at the...
Speaker 2:
[50:19] Wait.
Speaker 1:
[50:19] Who else you said?
Speaker 3:
[50:20] You got AD., Carmelo, Kyrie, Joel Embiid.
Speaker 2:
[50:27] Ah, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:
[50:30] KD at the two, Mello at the three, Zion at the four, and AD at the five.
Speaker 3:
[50:37] You're leaving yourself off?
Speaker 1:
[50:38] I want to win.
Speaker 3:
[50:41] You can win with you.
Speaker 1:
[50:42] I can win better with them.
Speaker 3:
[50:44] Okay. I'll take your word for it. This NIL now, they had NIL when you were in school. Would you have stayed in school or you go into the NBA?
Speaker 1:
[50:55] I wanted to stay in school. Well, everybody told me this is one of the things nobody listened to what I wanted to say. Like Frank will tell you, like I begged Frank. Not begged him, but I really wanted to stay in college.
Speaker 3:
[51:05] Right.
Speaker 1:
[51:06] Like as far as college figures, Tim Duncan was the one I admired the most.
Speaker 3:
[51:13] Yeah. He stayed all four years.
Speaker 1:
[51:16] Because at the time, Corey Brewer and Joaquin Noah and Aho.
Speaker 3:
[51:22] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[51:22] They did the double-double thing back-to-back.
Speaker 3:
[51:25] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[51:25] So that right there, like the boldness of Joaquin being the number one and coming back and then doing it again. Right.
Speaker 2:
[51:34] Right.
Speaker 1:
[51:35] So I just started researching and then Tim Duncan was like, because in my mind, I'm like, bro, that's got to be the first time that ever happened. Tim Duncan, three years in a row, number one, number one, number one, and then went number one. It's like, you know, you don't know for me, it is I know.
Speaker 2:
[51:53] Calm down.
Speaker 1:
[51:54] Time waits for us all.
Speaker 3:
[51:55] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[51:56] Look at his career. So I really wanted to stay three years, four years, and maybe get a ring, the scoring thing. I didn't know I was going to score that many points. So I started averaging and I was like, well, I can really be some Pete Mervitt shit.
Speaker 3:
[52:09] Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1:
[52:09] So that was really my real thought. But my family and the people we spoke about, they just made the decisions for me.
Speaker 3:
[52:19] God damn. But you look at the money that these kids make it now and they jump from school to school. Somebody say, well, I got two million for you. You play one year here, I got another two and a half over here, I got another three over there. Is that good for college sports? I'm not begrudging guys making the money. Make it more.
Speaker 1:
[52:37] Everything has a yin and a yang. So there's always good for the worst reasons, and there's always evil for the best.
Speaker 3:
[52:47] Right.
Speaker 1:
[52:47] So giving these kids money early, some of them are going to know what to do with it, and some of them are going to start businesses. Like, I know a kid, Ellie Popak, man, one of the most, mostly raised some good kids. So one of them, Ellie, 13, he started a vending machine company, and now he scales to like a million a month.
Speaker 3:
[53:05] Wow.
Speaker 1:
[53:06] He's only 18. Right. Some kids will know what to do with the money. Some kids will just further, like, it's a scale. Like, the difference between medicine and poison is just the dosage. The difference between Eli Mus and the crackhead is just the dosage. What you do with the money, it all correlates, right? So yeah, I would love to say it's great, it's great. But then, if I'm being honest, if I can look back on the past and everything isn't 100 percent, but we do as a society repeats itself as history, I have to believe that this money is detrimental to some of these kids. Right. I think they should just be playing for the right reasons. I think they should be playing to be a better person, to learn discipline, for longevity. I think we're so scared of the right now that we don't think about tomorrow. That's where the money comes in. And goes out.
Speaker 3:
[54:03] In that 2008 draft, if the Bulls don't get the number one pick, is Michael Beasley the number one overall draft pick?
Speaker 1:
[54:12] That's the only thing I'm mad about Poo.
Speaker 3:
[54:15] The old-time kid that they got the number one pick.
Speaker 2:
[54:18] Poo, Poo.
Speaker 1:
[54:19] Literally, D-Rose, one of my favorite. When I met D-Rose at 14, we sitting there chopping up in the room and shit. He's sitting there like, man, I ain't never went through my girl phones. Never went to my girl phone, Drew.
Speaker 2:
[54:31] I'm sitting there like, for real, why not?
Speaker 1:
[54:35] Bro, you don't trust yourself, I can't trust you.
Speaker 2:
[54:39] Bro, that bar stuck in my land.
Speaker 1:
[54:41] I remember that from, he was one of the flyest, smoothest. When you know him, he loud, but in public, he's just smooth out the way, just like he's played, right? So, that's the only thing about D-Way that was hot at, man. It's like, soon as I, Chicago got it, it was like, ah man, poof. But I didn't know he was going to do what he did in Memphis. I didn't know that they was going, right? One shot away type shit, right? But that's the only thing I was mad at. I wish I wasn't because I wasn't able to embrace my mom and my family, like, you know? But I think if anybody else would have got the first pick.
Speaker 3:
[55:16] Right. You've heard a lot of conversation over the last week or so. I think Pat Bev started the conversation about D Wade and James Harden. That James Harden is a much better player than D Wade, yada, yada, yada. There's been a lot of people weighed in on it. Some people say, well, I take regular season James Harden, but I won't play up D Wade. You played with D Wade in Miami. He was in the McDonald's All-American Game with Harden. What's your take on this, Beas?
Speaker 1:
[55:45] I think yesterday never happens and tomorrow never comes. I think we're so into nostalgia that we want our childhood to be better than every other eras. We're talking two different eras. When Clyde Drexler played, it was a one-two. That third step was a trial.
Speaker 3:
[56:08] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[56:09] D Wade was the era of introducing the Eurostep with Manuel Gennobli.
Speaker 3:
[56:14] Great.
Speaker 1:
[56:15] James Harden was the era of introducing the zero step in volume shooting.
Speaker 3:
[56:21] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[56:21] Right. If I had to say who's better, I can't because he can do way more things legally than they can.
Speaker 3:
[56:31] Right.
Speaker 1:
[56:31] Right. I will have to just divide the errors up. Right. D-Wade played an era he played in. When D-Wade played, just like when Kobe played in that era.
Speaker 3:
[56:40] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[56:41] Seems to tell you the first to 90 wins the game. That mean 100 points. Right?
Speaker 3:
[56:46] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[56:46] We were only scoring 90 points there. In an era where D-Wade was averaging 30 points, giving you five assists and five rebounds. That mean he accounted for at least 40 percent of the offense with the blocks and the steals. Right. In that same era, I think the most threes per game might have been like five or six. And that was from like Kyle Corba. Right?
Speaker 3:
[57:14] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[57:14] If you shot a fast break three, you're getting benched. Right? James Harden and Steph Curry, they introduced the era of the point guard, shooting guard especially, volume shooting. D-Way was 29, 30 percent on one or two a game.
Speaker 3:
[57:34] Right.
Speaker 1:
[57:35] James Harden ain't nothing but 36 on ten a game. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[57:39] He just shooting more.
Speaker 1:
[57:40] And now, let me get off this arrow. I love to watch Daniel Harden play.
Speaker 3:
[57:45] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[57:45] You understand now? Like I said, 90 points, 30 points, 40 percent of the James Harden and Steph Curry helped introduce volume shooting. Now, everybody's shooting a three. Now, we're scoring 140 points a game.
Speaker 3:
[58:00] Correct.
Speaker 1:
[58:00] James Harden scoring more points, but the-
Speaker 3:
[58:04] With their lesser of the team's percentage.
Speaker 2:
[58:06] You understand?
Speaker 1:
[58:07] And no disrespect to James Harden because he can only be in his error.
Speaker 3:
[58:10] Right.
Speaker 1:
[58:10] He introduced his error. He should be proud of the step back that we all shoot because that's him. Right. But if Steph and James didn't take ten a game, and they're only making 36 percent, that's three.
Speaker 3:
[58:23] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[58:24] If they didn't take that, and you understand, it would have never be this error today. D Wade, I remember my second year, going into my second year, D Wade came to me bragging like, dog, I made 103s last year. That was a big thing.
Speaker 3:
[58:38] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[58:39] And now you're talking about ten a game, you got to average that that's 803s compared to the 100 he's bragging about, making that 30 percent, that's 300 to 800. Yes, if D Wade took 803s, you don't think he was going to make 300 of them?
Speaker 3:
[58:51] Right.
Speaker 1:
[58:51] You know, so people compare in errors when you can't do that because it's different rules. And zero step is a thing.
Speaker 3:
[58:58] And they're so different of players. Yeah. James Harden has a ball with the ball in his hand, he's going to shoot the step back three, D Wade didn't have the ball mainly in his hand, he either dives, slashes to the basket.
Speaker 1:
[59:09] Merge five, fish swim, and you got to let people do what they do. They control the games differently.
Speaker 3:
[59:14] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[59:15] You understand? We don't want, that's why.
Speaker 3:
[59:17] Right. The BIG3 in Miami, how upset when they traded to get LeBron and Bosch?
Speaker 2:
[59:26] Very. Bro, I was the one that made it happen.
Speaker 1:
[59:30] Now, this is why I love Pat Riley because he's just as honest as they come. Now, maybe he knew before he was telling me, but he sat me down and he said, bro, I'm not trading you because it was trade rumors. I ain't trading. He said, the only way I would trade you is if I can get Bosch and Bron at the same time. That's literally he said those words to me. You understand? I remember being in my house, I was in the sitting room, falling asleep, waking up to my phone going off. Everybody telling me I was going to Minnesota. That was maybe two, three weeks apart. But when it happened, it was just straight to Minnesota and I was upset. I was like, damn man. But whatever, I was mad. I was mad. Bron, my favorite player. Bron, the first player I told my mom about. Bron is the reason I spoke to my mom about basketball for the first time. You understand? We was at the track and Stink came to me and KD was like, bro, he's 240, he ain't 6'8. We just was like, oh my God, he doing that.
Speaker 2:
[60:40] He doing that.
Speaker 1:
[60:41] I went home and I told my mom, bro, I want to be that. That's the first time I ain't want to be rapping on them.
Speaker 2:
[60:46] Real shit. Back then, everybody else, I was with Sinners.
Speaker 1:
[60:51] Ron had helped me and KD. Stink was working on me and KD. Stink used to always tell KD, when you dribble five feet, you understand? So it was a brand new thing for somebody all high to be a. But when we saw LeBron, we said, oh no, we coming right after that. Yeah. Now, I'm going to tell her my mom, dad. She's like, I don't know who the fucking LeBron James is, da, da, da, you know? So, I'm my favorite person my whole life.
Speaker 3:
[61:19] You got an opportunity to play with LeBron. You go back to Miami. Before we get to that, why weren't you more successful in Miami? Looking at your college career, Beas, I ain't going to lie.
Speaker 1:
[61:32] Be honest with you?
Speaker 3:
[61:33] Yes, please.
Speaker 1:
[61:34] Because everybody gets drafted to their own situation. Okay. Pat Riley is so smart that he tricked you guys and just won 17 games the year before. The year before that, he was second round and the year before that, they won a championship.
Speaker 3:
[61:51] Right.
Speaker 1:
[61:52] We were still in the D-Wade era.
Speaker 3:
[61:53] Right.
Speaker 1:
[61:54] When D-Wade got hurt, they tanked 17 games to try to get, if you look at the demographics, Utah was running, right, Darren Williams and Carlos Buza.
Speaker 3:
[62:05] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[62:07] They drafted me to be Carlos Buza. I used to watch Carlos Buza and Carl, Carl Malone. So I f*****g throw up. I just tried to tell you, see how narrow my shoulders?
Speaker 3:
[62:19] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[62:21] Nowhere in hell can my shoulders get that wide. I can get strong, but wide.
Speaker 3:
[62:24] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[62:25] I like to tell them all the time, it's like, bro, I can be that effective, but just my way. Spowe and, you know, I love Spowe. Spowe and Rothstein and they just, it was so, they were so anxious to get back to the championship and curate D-Wade that they just forgot about me. You know? And then I didn't help get in trouble, so that part.
Speaker 3:
[62:48] But there's a lot of getting trouble in Miami, huh?
Speaker 1:
[62:51] No, I didn't get in trouble like y'all think. I got in trouble just trusting the wrong people.
Speaker 3:
[62:57] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[62:57] You know?
Speaker 3:
[62:58] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[62:58] I got in trouble. What we said, just being around. And just one of them people I was around with my team. But no, I didn't get in like, that's the part of the scenario of I hate, I didn't like, we're this 11?
Speaker 3:
[63:10] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[63:11] This is literally the first time I've ever been in. I don't do things like this. I don't go to, this doesn't attract me, this doesn't excite me. You know what I'm saying? If you wasn't as cool as you was, I was going to check you about having me here. You know? But like, I don't do shit like this, so I didn't get in trouble how everybody think I got in trouble, but I ain't, I'm not innocent.
Speaker 3:
[63:31] You mentioned like LeBron was your favorite player, and you get an opportunity to come back to Miami in 2013, and you played with D-Wade, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen. How was that experience?
Speaker 1:
[63:40] It was good, but bad on basketball. I just bad.
Speaker 3:
[63:46] You wanted to play more? What was the point? Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[63:49] Like, every time I stepped on the court, it said I should play more. The numbers say I should play more.
Speaker 3:
[63:53] You get buckets, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1:
[63:55] But not just buckets.
Speaker 2:
[63:56] I like, I can get, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:
[63:58] You rebound?
Speaker 1:
[63:59] Yeah, you do. I like to win the game. I don't like to just go out there and score. Like, just because I can do it, don't, right? So, I gotta breathe. This is whatever. Just God gave me that gift. But I just like to win the game, and I just wanted to play with him. But it's like, I played his position, and Spoke couldn't figure out how to make us both Mack trucks. That's what he used to call a brown truck. Brown, like the Mack truck lane. He couldn't figure out how to make us both Mack trucks. Right. And Spoke just couldn't figure us out. But this is why I can't talk bad about Spoke. Remember we talked about the yesterday? Yeah. When Spoke was in the bubble, and he let Hero and Tyler Duncan, and he let them, the young guys. I'm a Heat fan, because that was like the apology I needed for not letting me play when I was young.
Speaker 3:
[64:49] Right.
Speaker 1:
[64:50] And then you see where Hero and Duncan are today.
Speaker 3:
[64:52] Right.
Speaker 2:
[64:53] Right.
Speaker 1:
[64:53] So I just wish he would have gave me that right there.
Speaker 2:
[64:55] Right.
Speaker 1:
[64:56] But at the time, it was just so like, it was my rookie year, his rookie year, and it was the D Wade show. So he couldn't even give me his real opinion or accept mine because it was what Pat says, what D Wade says. You understand?
Speaker 2:
[65:07] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[65:08] So personally, I think that's what happened to my career. And then when I left, then whatever narrative everybody made up, I got canceled before we even created a culture. You understand? Like this canceled culture. We came up with the culture in like 2012, 14.
Speaker 3:
[65:23] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[65:24] We came up with the canceled culture. Like, bro, I got canceled in 2008, was just trying to figure out who I was. And then by the time I got traded, then y'all just accept, y'all just...
Speaker 3:
[65:34] Just took everybody's word for what they said about you.
Speaker 1:
[65:37] That's crazy, Michael Beasley. I could never say anything now.
Speaker 3:
[65:41] I read that when you came back to Miami, you tried the LeBron diet.
Speaker 1:
[65:46] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[65:47] Did it help?
Speaker 2:
[65:47] Hell yeah, man.
Speaker 3:
[65:50] What? So...
Speaker 2:
[65:52] He don't, bro.
Speaker 1:
[65:53] When it comes to winning life in music, it's Drake.
Speaker 3:
[65:59] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[66:01] In sports, it's LeBron James. I don't care how much you hate this guy.
Speaker 2:
[66:05] I don't care how...
Speaker 1:
[66:06] He's a billionaire playing basketball. He spends a million plus on his body. Bro, he's 40 what? He's been in the NBA since 18.
Speaker 3:
[66:18] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[66:18] Okay, let's reverse that. He's been in the NBA more than half his life.
Speaker 3:
[66:24] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[66:25] He's doing something right.
Speaker 3:
[66:26] Right.
Speaker 1:
[66:27] So when I got next to him, I just did everything he did. I'm talking about down to the ice cream and chocolate chip cookies. Real shit. But I never been, bro, I came out of college, I was 240.
Speaker 3:
[66:40] Right.
Speaker 1:
[66:41] Bro, when I was next to Lebron, I was 265, 4, 5% body fat just walking around, but it didn't fit for my, because I don't play like him. He played more brute and I'm more finesse. So that kind of got in the way. But I loved, man, listen, bro.
Speaker 2:
[66:56] You loved the way you looked, it felt good. I used to go home with no shirt on. What? Man, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[67:02] But I just never been that big before. Like in college, like Scott Greenwell, I didn't notice at the time, but he made my body perfect for me.
Speaker 3:
[67:12] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[67:12] That's why I was able to do what I was in college. Yes. I actually wanted to take him my whole career, but whatever. I love him to death, so he never do nothing wrong to me. It was me on him. But LeBron, I was 265. I just don't eat that much. He eat two, three times a day. I'm used to eat once a day.
Speaker 3:
[67:37] Had they turned you loose in Miami and let you be what you were in K-State, how effective could you have been? How impactful could you have been?
Speaker 1:
[67:48] One of my favorite phone calls, we was in the gym one day. After the gym, Bam and B Chill called me and there was a couple of other guys. This is when the gym was popping, popping. Bam called me and was like, yo, be real, bro. Be real. Like I'm saying, I ain't trying to stroke your ego, but I'm saying I'm just asking you a real question. He asked me that same question. He said, bro, how many times you think you would have won the MVP? Just that question alone from one of my peers. I told him, I said, well, I don't think D Rose deserves that one over LeBron. D Rose is definitely, but I think LeBron deserve five straight.
Speaker 3:
[68:35] Right.
Speaker 1:
[68:37] I don't think I would have got it over Kobe or Westbrook's triple double. If I'm being honest, I would have been second, fifth, 10th for a lot of years and I may have got one.
Speaker 3:
[68:48] Right.
Speaker 1:
[68:49] Right. But I definitely would have been at least a Carmelo Anthony-esque score. Right. I don't like to live in, the fact that Bam called me and asked that, it was random though and we had a conversation 40 minutes about it. Then I said maybe one and he said, no, dog, you trippin do, do, do, do. That's all the respect I get.
Speaker 3:
[69:10] I know you say you don't like to live in the past, but do you think, have you ever thought about what could have been, what should have been?
Speaker 1:
[69:17] Yeah, I mean, we forced to. That's like, how often are you alone?
Speaker 3:
[69:21] A lot.
Speaker 1:
[69:22] Right. How often are you alone when people are around? I'm never in your brain. It's a million things going on. You got more neurons than there is in the universe. So yeah, I dwelled on the past a little bit, but that's just helped me prepare for the future a lot more.
Speaker 3:
[69:46] You mentioned the ice cream and cookies. D-Rose has told a story, Norris Cole has told a story.
Speaker 1:
[69:51] I was on a plane.
Speaker 3:
[69:52] You was on a plane. Tell us what transpired. I think they were playing cards or something.
Speaker 1:
[69:58] I'm going to tell you from my perspective.
Speaker 3:
[70:00] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[70:03] Spoh tried to swing his dick and Riley tried to swing their dick.
Speaker 3:
[70:08] Did you guys lose that game? You went to get one and y'all lost the game. So they were mad that you were lost.
Speaker 2:
[70:13] And Spoh and Riley, I've seen it. I've seen it happen because I'm watching.
Speaker 1:
[70:17] I was a quiet guy.
Speaker 3:
[70:18] I'm watching.
Speaker 1:
[70:18] Spoh and Riley tried to take off the...
Speaker 3:
[70:22] Took the cookies.
Speaker 1:
[70:22] And then tell them. Like, I'm pretty sure if they would have went to him like a person, a man, it would have been maybe a different story.
Speaker 3:
[70:30] Right.
Speaker 1:
[70:31] But he personally brings those himself. His chef.
Speaker 3:
[70:36] And so they took his cookies. They weren't the plain cookies.
Speaker 2:
[70:39] Yes. How, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1:
[70:40] That's the part of the story they're not telling. Like, Bron don't just... Bron ain't going to come to your establishment and have your cookies.
Speaker 2:
[70:47] No, he got a chef and he got. He bring his own ice cream and his own cookies.
Speaker 3:
[70:51] So those LeBron ice cream, LeBron cookies. They took LeBron ice cream, LeBron cookies and wouldn't let LeBron eat his own ice cream and cookies.
Speaker 1:
[71:00] Bro, that boy stood up for...
Speaker 3:
[71:02] See, that's the story that he did.
Speaker 2:
[71:03] Thanos.
Speaker 1:
[71:06] Sitting there with the cars. Yo, can I get my... Where I play cars at, I can see where they bring the cookies at.
Speaker 3:
[71:20] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[71:20] So I can see them scrambling. But at the time, I don't know.
Speaker 3:
[71:26] You don't know why?
Speaker 1:
[71:27] No, I know why because I didn't know that I knew why.
Speaker 3:
[71:30] Right.
Speaker 1:
[71:32] So I'm just watching like, hey, come back. Come to Bronze. What? I stood up and yelled as far as the back. Everybody heard him. Yo, if anybody do what, I, bro, sat down, I mean, it was loud as, and sat down, as cool as it was cool, you ain't got my cookies, y'all ain't going. You're right, bro, he him. That's the first time I seen the whole organization get scared. From that point on, they tiptoed around him. They knew he was up.
Speaker 3:
[72:19] So from that moment on, you knew LeBron was leaving. They knew he was leaving.
Speaker 2:
[72:23] Everybody did. Yeah, one of them said.
Speaker 3:
[72:27] So they were saying like they were surprised.
Speaker 2:
[72:28] I knew. If they didn't know, I knew.
Speaker 1:
[72:32] Because everything was different. Everything was like, bro, he's such a fun person.
Speaker 3:
[72:36] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[72:37] He's just such a like people see this him and bro, he's just such a fun, goofiest person you'll ever be around, bro.
Speaker 1:
[72:44] It's like, you understand?
Speaker 3:
[72:45] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[72:46] If f**k me up because I'm just expecting to be the goofy one.
Speaker 2:
[72:49] You understand? Then he played a joke before I played the joke. Like, God damn, n***a. You know what I'm saying? It's like, bro, that's like, bro, Bro, I'm the easiest person to be around.
Speaker 1:
[72:56] That's why it's like when you f**k up, you just f**k up, right? And it's like, n***a, you want to make this billion dollars or not? He know, he the one player that knew who he was from day one. Kevin Durant had to find out, derails all of us from day one. Man, he knew when I walk in this, it's going to be a billion dollars. Do you want to make it or not?
Speaker 2:
[73:16] Simple as that. You understand? And I seen that.
Speaker 3:
[73:19] See, I thought the cookies, I thought the cookies were like the team. No. He brought his own cookie.
Speaker 1:
[73:25] Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think, no. I remember Ron bringing his own cookies.
Speaker 3:
[73:30] This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to the Sheppard Podcast Platform. You just listened to part one on. Just simply go back to Club Shay Shay profile and I'll see you there.