title Club Shay Shay - Michael Beasley Part 2

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Michael Beasley, one of the most gifted scorers ever, a Big 12 Player of the Year, Big 12 Freshman of the Year, McDonald’s All-American Game MVP, BIG3 Champion, back-to-back BIG3 MVP, and one of the best one-on-one players in basketball, joins Club Shay Shay. 
Beasley reflects on growing up in Maryland, surrounded by family members who were incarcerated, including his grandfather, father, and uncle. He shares how basketball became his outlet after shooting his first shot at three years old and beginning organized basketball at eight. He explains how being oversized for his age shaped the way people viewed him and how he often felt misunderstood.
He reveals that meeting Kevin Durant changed his basketball life. Durant pushed him into the gym, taught him the language of basketball, and helped sharpen his competitive drive. Beasley also discusses living with Nolan Smith’s family during his teenage years and how those relationships helped shape the player he became.
Beasley opens up about his father, saying he later learned the truth about why their relationship was limited as a child. He explains how that revelation created distance between him and his mother before learning of her cancer diagnosis.
He also discusses the famous story of stealing pizza on the first day he met Kevin Durant. Beasley discusses time spent at Kevin Durant’s house, saying KD constantly talked basketball even as a kid. He also speaks on Lethal Shooter, remembering him as an elite shooter long before today’s NBA embraced deep threes.
On AAU basketball, Beasley says money has changed youth sports, with too many families chasing profit instead of development, discipline, and love for the game. He also describes how some coaches profited from his talent while his family still struggled financially.
He talks about attending six high schools, being on his own at a young age, and dominating everywhere he played. Beasley then revisits winning the McDonald’s All-American Game MVP over Derrick Rose, James Harden, O.J. Mayo, Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, and DeAndre Jordan after using being ranked No. 6 by ESPN as motivation. He praises Rose’s athleticism, O.J. Mayo’s skill, Blake Griffin’s power, and Kevin Love’s passing.
Beasley reflects on his legendary freshman season at Kansas State, where he broke Carmelo Anthony’s freshman double-double record and outproduced Kevin Durant statistically. He names his all-time one-and-done starting five as Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, Zion Williamson, and Anthony Davis.
He also discusses NIL, saying he wanted to stay in college longer but outside influences pushed him to the NBA. Finally, he revisits the 2008 NBA Draft and says he believes he would have been the No. 1 overall pick if the Chicago Bulls had not won the lottery and selected Derrick Rose.
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pubDate Wed, 22 Apr 2026 04:00:00 GMT

author Shay Shay Media & Playmaker

duration 4804000

transcript

Speaker 1:
[00:00] Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Man, how y'all lose to the Spurs? I didn't play.

Speaker 2:
[00:07] I played the one, two games. Spoke, like if Spoke would have played me, we'd have won. They couldn't figure, like, watch the game I played in San Antonio.

Speaker 1:
[00:16] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[00:16] Like I scored like eight points in like three, two minutes. It was like the end of the game, but it's like if Spoke would have played me, they would have had no answer for them. But I was in the suit the whole game, so I don't say y'all anything. Spoke didn't like me.

Speaker 1:
[00:30] Why?

Speaker 3:
[00:30] Because I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[00:32] I don't know. I really don't.

Speaker 1:
[00:34] But I thought the objective is to try to win a game. You ain't got to like the player. If the guy's going to help me win, I don't care.

Speaker 2:
[00:39] If you got a player that's Perth 36, my Perth 36 match up with DeMar DeRozan's. Why am I not paid like it? Why haven't I played like it? So yeah, logic applies to us all, but when it comes to Michael Beasley, it just doesn't. My whole career, go watch it. I've always watched more than half the game, and my numbers showed that I should be playing more. But for some reason, people just took my thoughts and opinion as great in the test, and I got judged for being that instead of who I actually am.

Speaker 1:
[01:16] Were you still in Miami after LeBron left?

Speaker 2:
[01:18] One year.

Speaker 1:
[01:19] How was it?

Speaker 2:
[01:20] Worse. This n***a, Spoh, looked at me and set me behind James Ennis in the belief that he was the next LeBron James. I love James too, but Spoh, you're f***ed. You're wild for that one. I was hot. The whole year I sat in there, I came back from China, so I had to go bus ash in Shanghai.

Speaker 1:
[01:43] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[01:43] First time, whatever, came back and f***ed Spoh literally, had me sitting behind James Ennis and Sebas Napier.

Speaker 4:
[01:57] It's like, whatever. He just didn't like me.

Speaker 1:
[02:00] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[02:01] He just didn't like me.

Speaker 1:
[02:03] You've heard the conversation. There are a lot of people that say it, Memphis, and I don't know how much time you spend in Memphis other than being on basketball travels. LeBron spoke about the hotels, KD spoke about the hotels, even Randolph and Allen, Tony Allen spoke about the hotel. Did LeBron get misconstrued? What is it about Memphis? I mean, I don't know a whole lot about Memphis. Have you spent any time outside of basketball in Memphis?

Speaker 2:
[02:30] Yeah, I got good friends in Memphis.

Speaker 1:
[02:32] So what is it about this hotel?

Speaker 2:
[02:35] Memphis problem is everything fun about Memphis is 30, 40 minutes outside of where the downtown is.

Speaker 1:
[02:43] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[02:44] You're talking to a guy like LeBron James. Everywhere he's gone, the party has always been, he's not driving 30 minutes to find out where the party is. So he don't know what real Memphis is.

Speaker 1:
[02:56] Right. Right?

Speaker 2:
[02:58] Downtown Memphis is not the prettiest place. It's ghetto, it's scary for a person that got money. That's why Josh shouldn't be with the, Josh, I love you. But I know some real good people in Memphis.

Speaker 1:
[03:12] Right.

Speaker 2:
[03:12] I know some real good people. Memphis is a fun city. It's just when you don't know, you don't know, you end up on the wrong side and don't know who you with. Bron ain't got time for that. You understand?

Speaker 1:
[03:23] Most NBA players don't got time for that.

Speaker 2:
[03:25] Yeah, but it's hard to explain to our people that even in a dispute, we cannot have a respectful conversation without you wanting to fight me. You can't lose the fight, I can't lose the fight without us wanting to kill each other. That's a real thing in our community. And y'all want to chastise Bron because he want to be here forever for his kids? No, if I was a billionaire and if I was as childish as he was to go and do things at my leisure, Memphis is not a place I want to do it at because I don't know somebody that looks like me may rob me. Y'all gotta stop pretending that's not a thing. That's what's wrong. Accountability. Remember I told you the women? Yes. Okay. Wait, wait. Those same women has raised these men that's speaking today. Remember I told you the wise man don't say nothing?

Speaker 1:
[04:19] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[04:19] Now we're in the era where the closed mouths don't get fed. And y'all want to blame Bron for building a billionaire and not wanting to get shot, robbed?

Speaker 3:
[04:28] Bro, stop chatting, stop doing that.

Speaker 1:
[04:32] You mentioned Ja, and you said, I think what you're alluding to, Ja probably needs to move on from Memphis.

Speaker 2:
[04:37] No, Ja just around the wrong people in Memphis.

Speaker 1:
[04:40] So you want him to stay in Memphis?

Speaker 2:
[04:44] Ja just be kicking it with the cool kids in Memphis.

Speaker 3:
[04:47] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[04:48] And Memphis is just a sidey town. So you kick it with some kids and the other kids don't like you.

Speaker 1:
[04:54] Right, okay.

Speaker 2:
[04:55] You understand? Ja need to play basketball and just stop kicking it with those kids. You understand? And that's the part of, like, when I said it went viral or whatever the. That's the part of T I want him to realize is like, dog, you need to keep him in the gym and out of that club shit, out of them cool scenes, because just like LeBron James, the cool scene is wherever you are. No, Ja don't need to get out of Memphis. The city loves him.

Speaker 1:
[05:21] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[05:22] Ja just need to understand who he is to Memphis, so the city can love him to life and not love him to death. They need to help him become a better him rather than-

Speaker 1:
[05:40] Shooter, my bang bang shit. You do realize that I think there's a greater chance that they're going to probably move on. You see they traded Desmond Bang, you see they traded Triple J.

Speaker 2:
[05:49] Desmond Bang, we're the ones, he came out of the adjunct.

Speaker 1:
[05:52] Did he? So you think there's a greater chance that Josh stays in Memphis or he's moving on?

Speaker 2:
[05:59] What is is and shall be, that's up for the sun and the sea and that's the handle. I don't know where he's going to go and if he's going to go anywhere, but I just think before y'all start judging him and just help him.

Speaker 1:
[06:14] 2018 Lakers, Josh Hart, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingham, Kyle Kuzma, Alex Caruso, Zubox, you belong to that team.

Speaker 2:
[06:21] That's the team I played on?

Speaker 3:
[06:22] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[06:22] Yeah. Should they have kept that core together?

Speaker 2:
[06:27] Honestly?

Speaker 3:
[06:27] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[06:28] I wasn't a basketball player then.

Speaker 1:
[06:31] Oh, you didn't?

Speaker 2:
[06:32] My mom died. I couldn't, I couldn't.

Speaker 1:
[06:35] You couldn't focus, huh?

Speaker 2:
[06:36] So, New York hurt my feelings because I played really good in New York.

Speaker 1:
[06:42] Right.

Speaker 2:
[06:42] And New York was only three hours away from DC. So I used to drive, you know, my mom lived on the Baltimore side of the South.

Speaker 1:
[06:49] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[06:51] I used to drive three hours after practice, after games, after, you know, whenever I could to go see my mom.

Speaker 1:
[06:56] Right.

Speaker 2:
[06:56] Because it's like she had cancer.

Speaker 1:
[06:58] Right. Right?

Speaker 2:
[06:59] So I was hoping to stay in New York, man. I wanted to stay in New York so fucking bad. I wanted to go to DC or Philly. Like one of those teams that was close to my mom.

Speaker 1:
[07:07] So you're close, so you can still go.

Speaker 2:
[07:08] Yeah, like, you understand? New York looked at me and said, Michael Beasley is the greatest player, the smartest player to ever put on a Knicks jersey. So how did this help us win? This is one of the times I wish I had something to say, because I said, I don't know. Like, I ain't never, right? And then when I signed with the Lakers, that's when we found out my mom had been lying about us about having stage two cancer and it was stage four. And then when I went to the Lakers, like we talked all day on FaceTime, me, her and my brother, right? And then like, right before the season, my brother went home. My brother went home and FaceTimed me and like I was on the phone with my mom. It was the same shit, you know? And he showed me like the side she wasn't showing us. So like, we didn't know, but like, every day she was like, really, get up and make sure she take her morphine so she can have that phone call, right?

Speaker 3:
[08:12] And then, I just got a hold of him.

Speaker 2:
[08:18] I just got a light on him. And I just had to go, I just, gosh, bro. My mom was driving herself to chemo until they put her on hospice. She didn't deserve that. And I was mad at her at that time, because I mean, I told you, my dad did. I ain't know how to just.

Speaker 1:
[08:40] Yeah, bro.

Speaker 2:
[08:41] I ain't like that yet, because man.

Speaker 1:
[08:43] You say you were mad at your mom, what? Because she didn't have anybody to take her? She had to drive herself to chemo?

Speaker 2:
[08:47] No, no, no. I was mad at my mom for my childhood. My dad at 25 told me I was, I cut my whole family off for three years. I was pissed at them. Because my dad's a real n***a, was looking for me my whole life, and I was looking for him, and you got all these random ass n****s in my life. I was wondering about my dad. And then I got mad at my mom, and then she f***ing died, man.

Speaker 1:
[09:08] So three years you're not having a conversation with your mom, and then when you come back into it-

Speaker 2:
[09:12] And then when I got to New York, and I got to New York, we was getting back. And then when I got to LA, it was just too far, and it was too late now. And then I didn't know how to say it. I didn't know how to say that. And then I just went out there, and I just had the wrong shorts on. They fit the same, so I couldn't feel that s***. Y'all f***ing laugh. That day, James died two days before. My cousin, I was supposed to be in the funeral, and I was at shoot-around like, damn, should I get on this flight? Or just play, bro? If I get on this flight, they're going to think I'm lying about people dying and s***.

Speaker 3:
[09:44] I didn't want to play at all. I didn't want to play.

Speaker 2:
[09:47] I was one of my favorite people and s***, and they was just laughing at me and s***. They was just f***ing laughing at me. Man, I was hot. I was hot, n***a.

Speaker 3:
[09:57] I was hot.

Speaker 2:
[09:59] I hated them n****s, man, because my mom didn't deserve that s***, and then James died in the car, man. James went to go, I told him, stop f***ing these dumbass b****s. Man, James went to go meet this girl, and she set him up, and the n***a hit him, and he hid, right?

Speaker 3:
[10:14] He hid.

Speaker 2:
[10:15] And the only reason the n***a didn't come is because the n***a came down the street, and they let James die in the car, man. I couldn't be there for him. And y'all laughed at me. But don't, man, I'm gonna cry a little bit, but don't act like you don't notice, right? Just act like you don't notice. Yeah, I hated that year.

Speaker 1:
[10:34] Your mom dying, that robbed you of your ability wanting to play basketball, huh?

Speaker 2:
[10:38] Yeah, I couldn't, like, Magic Johnson and LeBron James, my favorite people, I couldn't be happy around them because they was laughing, too.

Speaker 1:
[10:47] But nah, yeah, I ain't with them. Did they know?

Speaker 2:
[10:50] Josh Hart, though, I love him. Josh Hart, bro, I was on the bus one day, and I ain't even know I was crying. I was just sitting there trying to be quiet. Josh Hart came up to me and gave me a hug, bro. It was like, bro, I don't know what you're going through, dog, but you can come talk to me, and I never did, and I wish I did, but like, Josh Hart, he seen who I was, but I up, Josh, man, I ain't never... And then BI used to kick it with me. BI used to be like, man, them clubs, I'm gonna kick it with you, OJ., I don't know why, but I just up with you, and we used to talk all night, you understand? Like, you understand? I up with them youngins, but like, I'm just mad I couldn't be there for them.

Speaker 1:
[11:26] Did anybody know what you were going through at the time?

Speaker 2:
[11:28] No.

Speaker 1:
[11:28] Did you tell anybody?

Speaker 2:
[11:29] I couldn't, I didn't know how. I couldn't, my whole life, my whole life, and not just then, from day one. From day one, the day I got drafted, if I was going through it all, and it's like, if I say it, y'all just laugh at it. If I act out on it, or if I just slip out because I'm going through reality outside of this game, y'all just laugh at it, and never what I got to say, never just what I-

Speaker 1:
[11:54] Did you feel like anybody ever tried to understand who Michael Beasley was? No, not one time. Everybody thought they knew who Michael Beasley was, the player, basketball player, but nobody understood Michael Beasley, the person.

Speaker 2:
[12:03] No.

Speaker 1:
[12:04] Did anybody try to get that? Did you try to let anybody in to see that side of you?

Speaker 2:
[12:08] How many times did I cut my hair? Go back and look at it. How many times I tried to reintroduce myself? Go back and look at it. How many times I tried to apologize for who y'all thought I was? Go back and look at it. Y'all laughed at every single time. Every single time. If I had a bad game, look, the worst in the world, if I had a good game, it's just some lucky shit. I've never been able to have a good game without y'all talking about my past. Even today, I go play in the BIG3 like, he don't belong there. You know where his mental is, his mental that. Y'all don't know my mental. Stephen A. Smith met me at 15 and he said a word to me. Now, next thing I know, this talking about character issues at 18.

Speaker 4:
[12:57] How the do you even know about character issues?

Speaker 2:
[12:59] You don't know I was catching a bus to them gyms you seen yet, Walking a mile after I got on a bus, but character issues because why? You grew up with a fridge?

Speaker 1:
[13:07] I didn't.

Speaker 2:
[13:09] Y'all never asked me anything. Not once. Y'all just all thought I came from where y'all came from and didn't judge what I did. And so me and my friends got laughed at and y'all just, for loyalty, Trevor Reza looked at me and said, yo, you're the smartest I ever met, but you're loyal to the most dumbest I know that now. No, nobody asked me shit. Y'all ain't care. That's real.

Speaker 1:
[13:34] If you'd had mentorship, Michael Beasley would be a different person sitting on this couch.

Speaker 2:
[13:37] A billionaire. That's why I look at, right? And I'm so, I love the kids. Because all you need is a little bit of discipline, a little bit of organization, then you're going to be scared of your parents. Then you're going to go outside and be scared of your coaches. And you're going to go outside and be scared of the officers. And then you're going to go outside and be scared of life. And that's just going to make you live one more day.

Speaker 1:
[14:07] On the court, you had moments. Look, you're the second pick in the draft. Everybody saw what you did.

Speaker 4:
[14:12] Y'all laughed at them all.

Speaker 2:
[14:14] Go back and look at it. That's a real shit.

Speaker 1:
[14:16] When you say they, who are they?

Speaker 2:
[14:17] Like, I can give you a real stat. Every time I play it over 30 minutes, I'm averaging like 20 plus points. Every time I'm playing over 25 minutes, like look at the stats. My Perth 36 add up with the All-Stars that y'all love to pay. But whenever it was my turn, y'all all brought up what mental issues y'all thought I had. Having none. The mental issues y'all thought I had, y'all created because I couldn't understand it, which created depression, anxiety. Then I couldn't talk to anybody and every time I tried to change, y'all just laughed at me. Right? Then look at my numbers. I only play half the game max, but always produce more numbers. I just never got a chance to play. Never got a chance to play. When it was always time to get paid, you know I was in New York, right? They had a vet minimum of eight million. They played me two million last year with the minimum. Right? I'm looking at I'm trying to negotiate my contract before I go to New York. They say what they said to me. Okay, cool. I look at my age, I say, bro, they got six million to give me, just something to give me that six million for the one year. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4:
[15:22] It ain't hurting them and it ain't hurting me.

Speaker 1:
[15:23] Right.

Speaker 2:
[15:24] Ask me what they do the next day.

Speaker 1:
[15:25] What do they do?

Speaker 2:
[15:26] Mario Hazzonia win number eight, just signed for eight million dollars.

Speaker 1:
[15:30] So the money that you could have got.

Speaker 2:
[15:31] Ask who won number eight last year.

Speaker 1:
[15:34] You did.

Speaker 2:
[15:35] Not even a phone call to say they was going in another direction. Right? Yeah, Every time I played good, y'all laughed and just thought it was luck.

Speaker 1:
[15:50] Mike, did you, I mean, at any point in time, did you ever say, you know what, I need to go sit down and talk to somebody about what I got?

Speaker 2:
[15:55] Yeah. Like last week was the first time I called my lawyer and asked him, I'm looking for my insurance card now. I don't want paper that shit. I heard that shit.

Speaker 3:
[16:03] It's my shit.

Speaker 2:
[16:05] Real shit.

Speaker 1:
[16:07] Do you wish you had done sooner?

Speaker 2:
[16:10] I did. I was in anger management my whole life.

Speaker 3:
[16:15] I just never spoke.

Speaker 2:
[16:17] Quarter-pointed since fifth grade, fourth grade.

Speaker 1:
[16:22] How do you get quarter-pointed anger management in fourth or fifth grade? What did you do?

Speaker 2:
[16:29] The first time?

Speaker 1:
[16:30] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[16:31] Antoine Queen. He beat me in basketball when I didn't care. But afterwards at recess, he was like, you're just talking for nothing.

Speaker 3:
[16:41] You're just talking for nothing.

Speaker 1:
[16:44] In other words, he's a-

Speaker 2:
[16:46] Oh, so I beat the shit out of him.

Speaker 1:
[16:48] For beating you in basketball? No.

Speaker 4:
[16:51] That was five, 10 minutes. You leave me alone.

Speaker 2:
[16:53] I didn't care about basketball then.

Speaker 1:
[16:55] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[16:56] So I beat the shit out of him.

Speaker 1:
[16:59] So you beat the guy up because he was talking for nothing.

Speaker 2:
[17:01] Then when they tried to stop me, I dragged this nigger from the playground to the inside bathroom. I whipped his ass. I really whipped his ass. The only time that I would hear anything is when they would call Leroy Ellison, get to Michael Beasley. The only person I was scared of was my brother. One, partly because he knew how to box before me. Then secondly, he was the one that always snitched on my mom. I'm whipping his ass, whooping his ass, whooping his ass. Pause the story. You see this scratch on mom?

Speaker 3:
[17:39] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[17:42] Principal gave it to me. She grabbed me maybe a few weeks before that.

Speaker 3:
[17:46] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[17:47] My mother told me, next time somebody put their hands on you like that. So, I'm whooping this ass. I'm whooping this ass. I hear my brother name, the intercom, right? So, now, I'm scared. I go out the bathroom, like what's my next move? Soon as Dr. Cooper grabbed my goddamn arm, and before I can think, I looked up and seen it was her, and this thing was flying to us, baa!

Speaker 1:
[18:16] You hit the principal to teach you?

Speaker 2:
[18:17] I knocked that shit out. That's the first time I got arrested. Knocked that shit clean out.

Speaker 1:
[18:21] What grade were you in?

Speaker 2:
[18:22] Fifth grade. Boy, I was nine. I wasn't supposed to be in the fifth grade. I was eight or nine. But I was just bigger.

Speaker 1:
[18:29] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[18:29] You know what I'm saying? So, it was like, I knocked that shit out. I knocked that shit clean out. I wasn't a basketball player then. I was a child around the older people. Right. Fifth grade, you ten. I'm eight. So, yes, I'm going to act like a child. But back then, I didn't know this. Back then, I was just very violent. Because I grew up in Chocolate City. I was a light skinned guy. Yeah. My mother had both reds in my hair. So, I was a light skinned guy and a girl. I got green eyes. So, I was just always mad. Because everybody asked me if I was a boy or a girl.

Speaker 1:
[18:57] Right. Or they'd be like, So, you're swinging on them, they did?

Speaker 2:
[19:00] Come on, let's find out. Like, real shit.

Speaker 3:
[19:07] I swear.

Speaker 2:
[19:08] I'm talking like everybody in my family, your complexion.

Speaker 3:
[19:10] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[19:11] So, in DC., everywhere I go.

Speaker 1:
[19:12] Yeah, chocolate city.

Speaker 3:
[19:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:13] For sure.

Speaker 2:
[19:15] It was always a red bone joke about my mom.

Speaker 1:
[19:17] Yeah. Because your mom's light skinned like you.

Speaker 2:
[19:19] Let's go, Let's go. It's the second fight.

Speaker 3:
[19:21] All right.

Speaker 2:
[19:21] You found out if I was a boy or a girl.

Speaker 1:
[19:23] Right.

Speaker 2:
[19:23] Now, you're saying something about, All right.

Speaker 3:
[19:24] Come on.

Speaker 2:
[19:24] Let's go. We're fighting again.

Speaker 1:
[19:25] Right.

Speaker 2:
[19:25] Everywhere I go.

Speaker 1:
[19:27] So, you fought a lot as a kid.

Speaker 2:
[19:29] Yes. And I was...

Speaker 1:
[19:31] Why do you think you fought so much?

Speaker 2:
[19:33] Because you dark don't like light skinned people. Well, you're not hearing that I'm saying. Literally, black only matters to black when it's black is black.

Speaker 1:
[19:44] Right.

Speaker 2:
[19:44] The 1% matter don't matter when a nigga got green eyes because you think I'm better. Oh, nigga, I know I'm a tiger. I don't talk about the stripes. Right?

Speaker 3:
[19:52] Yeah. For sure.

Speaker 2:
[19:53] But nigga, black think light skin ain't black enough. You act light skinned. You act light skinned. I've been hearing that all my life from the females I try to like.

Speaker 1:
[20:00] Right.

Speaker 2:
[20:01] Oh, nah, you act light skinned. What does that even mean? And then they all fall in love with me when they realize, damn, no, you dark skinned. Like, yeah, because I'm a, stupid. Like, black people think light skinned people just like, no, we're light skinned inside of our body, right? Oh, no, no, we're black inside of our body and the exterior is the exterior. Albino, whatever the my mom was doing, all that shit. I see myself as you, but my whole life you didn't.

Speaker 3:
[20:28] I just had to beat you, Real shit.

Speaker 1:
[20:32] So then they realize, they're like, oh, hold on, he might be light skinned, but oh, oh.

Speaker 4:
[20:36] Everywhere I go. Look at this.

Speaker 2:
[20:40] It's split down the middle. People think that I think that that's pretty. I didn't even notice that shit until I was like 18, 19.

Speaker 1:
[20:45] Right.

Speaker 2:
[20:47] Bro, everywhere I go, oh, green eyes, light skin, and then my hair was long my whole life. My mom used to put Bo-Rats in my hair. So I was my mom's second.

Speaker 1:
[20:55] You put Bo-Rats in your hair?

Speaker 2:
[20:56] I was my mom's second child, and she really wanted a girl. She was glad I wasn't a girl.

Speaker 4:
[21:01] And then she was mad I was big.

Speaker 2:
[21:03] You know, but she ain't put like girly girly styles. Just like when Snoop Dogg made that shit acceptable. You know what I'm saying? My mom used to put my, which is dress me like Snoop Dogg as far as the hair. But I'm light skinned with green eyes. And so, nigga, she used to ask me if I was a girl. She used to call me white boy. I used to beat the shit out of me.

Speaker 4:
[21:22] A lot. A lot.

Speaker 1:
[21:25] When did you start fighting, Mike?

Speaker 2:
[21:26] When I played basketball?

Speaker 1:
[21:29] Well. Do you remember the last time you had a fight?

Speaker 4:
[21:35] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[21:37] Had it been in the last year, the last five years, the last ten years?

Speaker 2:
[21:42] Last time I had a fight was like 20... Like 2017.

Speaker 1:
[21:51] Okay. It's been almost a decade. Okay. We can get with that. Do you remember why you got into it?

Speaker 2:
[21:57] Disrespect? Loyalty?

Speaker 1:
[22:01] So you got it with somebody that you knew? You felt he was disrespectful? You've been loyal to him?

Speaker 2:
[22:07] I don't feel anything. See, like, all right, this... Your truth is just glasses you hand me with mud on it.

Speaker 1:
[22:21] Right? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[22:23] The truth should be a sword. And if you fall on the wrong side, it's just that with your blood on it. I don't do anything by how I feel. I do everything by according to what the truth is. What the right answer is, whether I fall on that sword or not.

Speaker 1:
[22:50] Do you, did you display any of this type of behavior when you were in the NBA and people exactly-

Speaker 2:
[22:56] No, no.

Speaker 1:
[22:57] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[22:58] I asked who, I never smacked none of them. They should have, I should have. They just, they all disrespected me to my face and thought I was cool. I laugh, I laugh. But no, I should have smacked a lot of them. I ain't never. Bron came to me in 2014 and said. I'm just sitting there, bro. At the time, after practice, it was D. Wade, Braun, Ray Ireland, Chris Bars, Chris Anderson, Birdman. They were all getting treatment.

Speaker 4:
[23:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[23:30] Bro, these are people I grew up watching. So I'm just admiring the conversations. And bro, I woke up to me and was like, Beas, you are a scary dude.

Speaker 4:
[23:45] What?

Speaker 2:
[23:46] Except it's just the way you look.

Speaker 4:
[23:47] I'm like, bro, I'm just, bro. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:
[23:51] It's like, and I know he ain't mean what he meant by it, but that's what y'all all take me as. I come, I'm just silent because I don't know what to say. And then I just get too afraid to tell you that I'm afraid. And then now y'all just judge me with your own mind and never ask me about mine.

Speaker 1:
[24:07] Right.

Speaker 2:
[24:08] That's just my whole life.

Speaker 1:
[24:11] Is it true you once turned down $15 million to go to China and accepted a $2.1 million from the next?

Speaker 3:
[24:18] Who told you that lie?

Speaker 1:
[24:20] Maybe we. That didn't happen?

Speaker 3:
[24:23] No.

Speaker 1:
[24:24] So did you make good money going to China?

Speaker 3:
[24:25] I'm like, yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 2:
[24:28] I made my $15 million.

Speaker 1:
[24:30] So why didn't you stay over in China?

Speaker 2:
[24:35] Because when you understand who you are, you understand value.

Speaker 4:
[24:38] Right?

Speaker 1:
[24:39] Yeah. For sure.

Speaker 2:
[24:41] What female do you like that you see every night?

Speaker 4:
[24:45] Nah.

Speaker 2:
[24:46] You might see her Wednesday and make her sweat on Thursday.

Speaker 1:
[24:48] Right?

Speaker 2:
[24:49] Especially when she knows that you got turf at your house.

Speaker 1:
[24:51] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[24:53] Right?

Speaker 2:
[24:53] Because you know, right? Like you ain't going to let her come here every day, every week. When she wants, you're going to see her when you want.

Speaker 1:
[24:59] Right.

Speaker 2:
[24:59] That's creating value.

Speaker 1:
[25:02] I play where I want. Delante West. He was a teammate of yours in China, right?

Speaker 2:
[25:08] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[25:09] How difficult is to see him going through what he's going through right now, Beas?

Speaker 2:
[25:15] It's not.

Speaker 1:
[25:16] It's not difficult for you? No. Why?

Speaker 2:
[25:21] You just told me to mind my own business. Just because it's, right? No. We all have to go through what we have to go through to become the person we need to be for tomorrow. Tomorrow only knows survival. Us and our social cues of today tend to forget that, right? Tomorrow, if tomorrow was a place we had to go to, you know how many people wouldn't make it, but we're so spoiled as to have it come to us that you can sit on the couch and be 600 pounds, right? So, no, we all, life is just a maturation process. We're all on our own journey.

Speaker 1:
[26:09] Everybody has to go through something, some more extreme than others, but we got to go through something.

Speaker 3:
[26:13] The wise man was a fool.

Speaker 2:
[26:15] You understand?

Speaker 1:
[26:16] Yeah, once upon a time, he absolutely was.

Speaker 2:
[26:19] In order to learn your lessons, like, okay, this is my ladies' revolution. It's never not been right now. So, if you get it now, when you get it later, when you do get it, it's going to be right now. See, we all confused right now with our right now, and if you confuse that, then you're the present moment, right? When you finish, it's never not going to be the present moment. That's your right now. You just got to put your head down and just not worried about mine. Right? So, don't confuse my now with your now, because right now was always going to be right now.

Speaker 1:
[26:55] I saw at one point in time, you were living in your car for two years. Was that your absolute lowest point that you've been?

Speaker 2:
[27:04] I wish.

Speaker 1:
[27:06] You've been lower than living in your car?

Speaker 4:
[27:07] Yeah. It got repossessed. That fuck ass baby my wife got, man.

Speaker 3:
[27:13] It was under her name.

Speaker 2:
[27:16] Yeah. I wish that was the worst. I was sleeping outside. I was sleeping outside for real.

Speaker 1:
[27:22] You sleep alone. You was unhoused.

Speaker 2:
[27:26] Yeah. Because my friend, you see him?

Speaker 1:
[27:28] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[27:30] I don't hold him accountable as far as, not accountable. I don't hold him responsible. Right? He will call me every night, like, dog, just come on my couch. Listen, bro, we all love elephants at the zoo.

Speaker 1:
[27:49] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[27:51] When he come down, sit on your couch, and half your house smells like it, you don't want them in your house no more.

Speaker 1:
[27:56] Right.

Speaker 2:
[27:57] I understood how big I was from an early age, so I don't put my burdens on my friends. I just let them help me. Like, he makes sure I'm in the gym. Why? He helped me because whether I'm in a house, or a car, or doing this, he hold me accountable being in the gym every day at 9 a.m. Whether I got the money to pay him or not. Yeah, I've been worse than that. Like, my mother always told me to tell you what depression feels like, I'm not allowed to show you what it looks like. That's why if I cry a little, just act like you don't notice. It's a real thing.

Speaker 1:
[28:31] You have a lot going on inside, don't you, Mike?

Speaker 4:
[28:33] Yeah, that's why I smoke a lot.

Speaker 1:
[28:37] A lot of crying, you do a lot of crying when you by yourself?

Speaker 2:
[28:43] No, when I'm on the basketball court, because I sweat and you don't notice.

Speaker 1:
[28:47] You can't tell.

Speaker 2:
[28:49] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[28:52] What will make that crying stop?

Speaker 2:
[28:55] Just listen. Stop telling me what I mean. Just hear me.

Speaker 1:
[29:02] There's a little boy inside that wants to be held, that wants to be heard, that wants to be seen. How do we get that little boy heard? How do we get him seen?

Speaker 2:
[29:09] Stop telling me who you think I am. I've been saying it my whole life.

Speaker 4:
[29:18] Stop telling me who you think I am.

Speaker 2:
[29:20] We judge decisions without knowing choices. You don't know the choices I had to...

Speaker 1:
[29:28] I made a decision based on the choices that I had.

Speaker 2:
[29:30] My stomach sometimes just got to... You understand? Maybe I got to do that shit for $20. You don't know that. That says the stripper, she got to eat and feed them babies. But you just so cool on judging pretty women was a thing. Right?

Speaker 4:
[29:44] We just so cool.

Speaker 2:
[29:45] Like, everybody's just not us, so we don't like her. Everybody just don't do what we do, so we don't like them. It's like, bro, birds fly and fish swim. We are not the same. But God gave us all air. He don't judge. Why you? That part. Just listen, bro. And not just to me. You know how many fathers out here missing their kids? You know how many mothers out here not telling the truth? And there's some niggas out there. There's some niggas out there that's right. I'm raising one of their kids right now. I love her to death.

Speaker 3:
[30:26] Right?

Speaker 2:
[30:28] Bro, just stop. People just shit.

Speaker 3:
[30:33] How...

Speaker 1:
[30:37] As I listen to you talk, and I see the type of relationship that you have with your mom, have you transported some of that into your relationship with women?

Speaker 3:
[30:49] What?

Speaker 1:
[30:50] Your anger, your disappointment in your mom because you found out that she kept you away from your dad. Your dad was trying everything he possibly could to see my...

Speaker 2:
[30:58] Unfortunately, I tried to have a family by just the wrong women. And just like my mom, they... Kaia was four when her mom decided to take her and the four for three years. Papa was four when his mom decided to take him for three years. Norrie was three. Two. They all used the crazy narrative that y'all all laughed at to take my kids away. Then I had no money, so I had to go continue to play and then got laughed at. So I just kept continuing. So now I got 16-year-old, a sixth fork, Michael Beasley, awesome. She's mad at me right now because I haven't been there as much as I'm supposed to, but she doesn't know that her mom took her away from me for three years in the name of me loving someone else. Poppo, the same thing. His mom took in the way of me not loving her anymore.

Speaker 3:
[32:07] She even stole my fucking house, whatever, but yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:14] In the process of all this going on, I just don't speak ill will of your kid's parents.

Speaker 2:
[32:21] I know.

Speaker 1:
[32:22] Just say, I would love to be there.

Speaker 2:
[32:23] Wait, have I ever, you didn't hear me say one bad thing.

Speaker 1:
[32:26] Don't.

Speaker 2:
[32:27] No. Just like I give my mom grace, I give them grace now. That's the part I do not like about when people hear me speak. Yeah. Because you just try to just-

Speaker 1:
[32:37] No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2:
[32:38] I will never speak why. This is the difference between man and women. Women don't know how to leave the hero a hero.

Speaker 1:
[32:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[32:50] We over sexualize these kids as women. Your dad did this to me. Your dad did to- Remember we were just talking about kids don't know what they don't know?

Speaker 1:
[32:59] Correct. You were.

Speaker 2:
[33:00] Every time since you've been younger, when that mom calls the dad, what the dad say? You better listen to your mom. Even if they are being.

Speaker 1:
[33:08] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[33:08] Dads know how to keep the hero alive because we know dogs, right?

Speaker 3:
[33:12] Moms feel, feel.

Speaker 2:
[33:18] So they tell kids lies in order to be right in their own story. Remember we told make up? The wolf in sheep clothing. Women lie so much that's why you can't ask them if they're telling the truth when they say they've been, right? You can't ask them if they're right. You just got to take the truth and then now, right? Kobe Bryant is dead now. He can't even defend his name, right? It's like people go through things as women and then y'all let women lie just because y'all want to f*** them in their make up. That's what, that's real shit. That's real shit and whatever.

Speaker 1:
[33:48] Money can solve a lot of things, but it can be a lot of, it can cause a lot of problems. What have you learned most about money, Mike?

Speaker 2:
[33:56] That it's not, it's nothing. We think money will solve anything, but it's like, all right, cool, I'll give you a hundred million dollars right now and you don't know what to do with it. You're just going to, you know, you know, like 70% of the people that win the lottery broke?

Speaker 1:
[34:14] Go broke, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[34:14] Because one, you'll get that hundred million dollars and spend a hundred million dollars and at the end of the year, you owe 50 of that to the, but you got mortgages on all this, right? And then it's like, money is not the root of all evil. The lack of knowledge is.

Speaker 1:
[34:35] To see that 70, 80% of the people that play professionals within 5 years end up broke, potentially finding bankruptcy, divorced. What is it that causes this situation, Beas?

Speaker 2:
[34:52] Greed. One, I just told you, the one lottery winner don't understand taxes. I think you spoke about it on one of your podcasts. I ain't giving my family no money because I'm getting taxed at it and you.

Speaker 1:
[35:08] That's what Michael said.

Speaker 2:
[35:09] Nobody teaches that.

Speaker 1:
[35:10] Right.

Speaker 2:
[35:12] Then they all chastise us or make us feel guilty for not doing. I used to go to my family like this, like, yo, we're on a ship right now and it's a hole at the bottom. I can get off the ship and go on a lifeboat, go get it. It's going to sink. But by the time it gets life-threatening, I'll come back with a bigger boat. Yeah. Or I can sit on this boat and party with you. It's all the same to me. But when this mother think me and mine getting on this life raft, my family chose to sink because we don't know. We all came from the hood, Section 8, our whole life. So all they knew was to party and keep spending and keep spending. I knew that this wasn't the way. I just didn't know the way to go.

Speaker 3:
[36:04] Right.

Speaker 2:
[36:04] Then I'm scared to leave my family, so I just chose to die with them. Then by the time I had kids, so that life raft that I had enough room for, I got nine kids. I ain't got no room for y'all no more.

Speaker 1:
[36:18] You got nine kids?

Speaker 3:
[36:19] Ten.

Speaker 1:
[36:20] Ten.

Speaker 2:
[36:22] I told you I'm raising a fuck kid right now. So I got nine, but a stepchild.

Speaker 1:
[36:27] You got nine of your own and another one that you call your child. The oldest is how old? Youngest is?

Speaker 2:
[36:34] Three.

Speaker 1:
[36:36] You done?

Speaker 2:
[36:37] No. I'm done having kids, but if I shall fall in love and have a family.

Speaker 1:
[36:44] Yeah. She wants a child. I want a family.

Speaker 2:
[36:47] I don't want no kids.

Speaker 1:
[36:48] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:48] I would love a family. I want more kids.

Speaker 1:
[36:51] You want to walk in the house one day?

Speaker 2:
[36:53] I used to. After practice, man, I used to love that shit.

Speaker 1:
[36:55] Walk in the house, honey, I'm home.

Speaker 2:
[36:56] Kids, not, honey, all the time.

Speaker 1:
[37:00] No, I'm saying, you want to let her.

Speaker 2:
[37:02] Exactly. I enjoy the woman running the house and the man running around it.

Speaker 1:
[37:07] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[37:07] Because, bro, I've been to these houses with no girlfriend. It's more like pee in the bathroom. I don't like it. Soon as you get a woman to doctor that shit up, now you the player.

Speaker 1:
[37:17] That's a home. Right? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:19] Your house now, you only know what to do because she told you how to smell that mother up.

Speaker 1:
[37:23] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:24] Bro, women, they need to understand the power they have because a man is only as strong as the women he chooses to follow. But when they all out here want to shake ass after Meg and Sexy Red, lace fronts and this, it's like, man, we sitting here.

Speaker 1:
[37:40] What we doing?

Speaker 2:
[37:41] Watching argue with niggas over who brings what to the table. Ain't that a funny argument?

Speaker 1:
[37:49] You notice that too? That seems to be the theme now right now, Beas.

Speaker 2:
[37:53] Yeah. Okay. From the man side, all the men saying is, yo, are you going to come here and help me pay some bills? That's it. You ain't making no money right now. In the business world, the black woman is the new black man.

Speaker 3:
[38:06] They make more money than us, right?

Speaker 2:
[38:08] All the women is saying is, I don't clean my house, right? Because every women will say, what you want me to come in here and cook and clean and cook and clean and cook. All right, right now, as it stands, I pay my own bills and you pay your own bills, correct?

Speaker 1:
[38:23] Right.

Speaker 2:
[38:23] Cool. You telling me when I pay our bills in one house that you don't want to cook and clean. I got one question to ask you. How many dirty tampons is behind your toilet right now? How many eyelashes is in your bed? When in the last time have you changed the sheets?

Speaker 3:
[38:41] Right.

Speaker 2:
[38:41] If you're complaining about laundry, that when in the last time you bought new underwears?

Speaker 3:
[38:50] Eww.

Speaker 2:
[38:51] We, oh no. Then the high-volume man sit there and watches the women say, I want a man that wants $100,000, $100,000 and then what we say to that? $100,000. Right? What we say, eww, I won't kick a dumb roaches. Wise men don't say nothing at all, but now we in the era of the closed mouths don't get fed. So we just sit there, watch them argue at the table. And remember, they said, from a distance, you can't tell who's who. Who the fool. That's what our women are doing today. And our. I tell women, if a come to ask you what you bring to the table, tell him you're not helping with your bills and move the f*** off. If a woman, I am the table. Tell her to go clean our house and move the f*** off. You dirty, nasty. Eww. That's real shit. Act like real. That's what I think about the table.

Speaker 1:
[39:51] Bees, have you ever had a father figure?

Speaker 2:
[39:54] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:57] You still hadn't?

Speaker 2:
[39:57] No. I remember I told you I paid for it.

Speaker 1:
[40:01] You thought he was a father figure.

Speaker 2:
[40:02] Yeah. Well, now I can't respect him because he won't even be honest about me paying for it. So I love him. I love him. Everything he did for me. I got to respect it. This is where I got my isms from. He'll fly n****. But he can't look me in the eye and say sorry for the things he wasn't supposed to do to me. Not the things he did, right? Nobody do things to people, right? But the things he wasn't supposed to do, he never looked me in the eye. Yeah, I had a father figure. He was a real n****. But I paid for that. So I guess I am my father figure.

Speaker 1:
[40:36] You said you used to get on FaceTime with your mom and talk. When she was getting ready to transition, and you knew it because I'm sure your brother-

Speaker 4:
[40:45] No, I didn't know it, n****.

Speaker 1:
[40:46] You didn't know?

Speaker 2:
[40:48] Yeah, who the f**k know their mom going to die? I didn't know until my brother went home, when I was with the Lakers.

Speaker 4:
[40:53] I don't know why I didn't know it, n****.

Speaker 2:
[40:54] I'm a kid. I'm a kid, bro. I just-

Speaker 1:
[40:58] But if you say you were a kid, how old were you in the NBA when your mom passed?

Speaker 2:
[41:00] When my mom passed, it was my last year in league, 2019. So what? I'm 37 now.

Speaker 1:
[41:05] So you're 31? 30, 30, 29, 30?

Speaker 2:
[41:08] 29, 30, 31.

Speaker 1:
[41:09] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[41:10] So I'm a n****. I'm not mom. I'm sitting there trying to-

Speaker 1:
[41:14] You didn't realize how thick you was.

Speaker 2:
[41:15] Yeah. She was lying to us.

Speaker 1:
[41:16] Oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[41:18] We thought she had stage two, but she really had stage four. We thinking, we thinking, I was like, mom, so-

Speaker 1:
[41:22] Oh, you will beat this.

Speaker 2:
[41:23] We thinking, yeah, smoke a couple J's. That's the only reason I was smoking during the season. Cause I'm trying to get my mom to sing. She hated the weed. We just tried to put it in an oatmeal and shit like that. I didn't think she was going to die. Until my brother went home and was like, yo. And then that's-

Speaker 1:
[41:36] Yeah, I lost a lot of weight and everything.

Speaker 2:
[41:39] Bro, you ever seen somebody take their last breath? No. Yeah, no.

Speaker 1:
[41:45] Well-

Speaker 2:
[41:45] My mom, 6'1, almost like 165, 185 pounds when she-

Speaker 1:
[41:52] She was at her best and then she had dropped all the way down.

Speaker 2:
[41:55] I came home and she may have weighed 40 pounds.

Speaker 3:
[41:59] What?

Speaker 4:
[42:00] She was a skeleton. You ain't ever seen nobody go through that.

Speaker 2:
[42:03] I watched cancer my whole life. A lot of people died, my whole life of cancer. Bro, these muscles you got all deteriorate and then you see this elbow?

Speaker 4:
[42:11] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:12] That elbow comes to your shoulder and it's just that thin. That's all you can see. That's literally all you can see and it's like, that's why I couldn't play basketball. I couldn't understand what I was seeing. The stronger person in my life was a raisin. Then y'all laughed at me. That's a real thing. I couldn't understand it. I just really just couldn't understand it and then-

Speaker 1:
[42:35] Nope, nope. Did you share that? Did you share that with anybody that your mom was going through that?

Speaker 2:
[42:39] I couldn't. Y'all laughed. We got the wrong shorts on. The day of my cousin's funeral.

Speaker 1:
[42:46] So the wrong shorts on your cousin's funeral.

Speaker 2:
[42:49] The day of my cousin's funeral. I was supposed to be in DC that day.

Speaker 1:
[42:53] You beat yourself up for not being there, don't you?

Speaker 2:
[42:56] Wrong shorts. But y'all laughed and then asked me why. I just laughed and then yeah, I know I had the wrong shorts on when I knew it, but thinking like I said, they fit the same. And I was just trying to, I was like literally I looked at the team and said, bro, I'm not getting on this flight because they're going to think I'm lying about people dying.

Speaker 1:
[43:13] Right.

Speaker 2:
[43:14] And I let my get into a car, man.

Speaker 1:
[43:18] Is a situation you said sometimes you get, you talk about the choices, you talk about the decisions I made, but you didn't know what the choices I had to choose between.

Speaker 2:
[43:27] Not just me, all of us.

Speaker 1:
[43:28] Yes. You too. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 4:
[43:30] Right.

Speaker 2:
[43:31] We sit here and judge everybody thoughts, like we're grading the test.

Speaker 4:
[43:38] No, man. Sometimes I got to let you think it. Sometimes I got to let you feel it. Sometimes I'll let you just get it out. Because the more I can press it, the longer it's going to blow to blow and blow and blow.

Speaker 2:
[43:47] You know what gas does when it's compressed, right?

Speaker 4:
[43:51] So, nah, man, just let people be who they are. Stop judging people so much, man.

Speaker 2:
[43:58] That shit's just nasty.

Speaker 1:
[44:02] Mike, where would you be without the BIG3? Because it's three-on-three basketball. It gives you an opportunity to compete. It gives you an opportunity to play the game that you love. But if you didn't have that, I look at your ring. Is that the championship ring? Two-time back-to-back MVP?

Speaker 2:
[44:24] I like it. It's cute.

Speaker 1:
[44:27] You like you. Prior to the BIG3, what were you doing prior to the BIG3?

Speaker 2:
[44:32] Minding my business, trying to raise my kids.

Speaker 1:
[44:36] Just playing, just going to the gym, hooping.

Speaker 2:
[44:38] Paying $1,500 a month for a phone bill because, you know, I got nothing but any of them. Just going to the gym with him every day.

Speaker 3:
[44:44] Just minding my business, wasn't I?

Speaker 2:
[44:47] I don't care about the social shit. I don't care about these podcasts or these BIG3s. I was just happy being depressed about not being in the NBA.

Speaker 1:
[44:58] You were depressed about not being in the NBA?

Speaker 3:
[45:00] At first, I was.

Speaker 2:
[45:02] Like, yeah, You just told me Kevin Durant's still playing, and I'm a year younger than him.

Speaker 4:
[45:06] You don't think I want to still be, you don't think I still be?

Speaker 1:
[45:08] Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 4:
[45:09] I was, yeah, heartbroken.

Speaker 2:
[45:11] And then, when it comes time for my insurance, right? I got to pay a co-pay because I played 12 years in the NBA, but they only given me nine years of service with like three or four games missing. It's like, bro, I got to play.

Speaker 1:
[45:23] So you want to go back and get those three games, and then you be straight?

Speaker 2:
[45:26] Yeah, bro, I got to pay for insurance for 10 kids because y'all up. I got 12 years of service. But yeah, I was depressed as. I was fucked, and he the one got me out of it. That's what We The Ones is.

Speaker 1:
[45:39] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[45:39] We The Ones, and he was there today, right? I was just so depressed. And Iman Shumpert came in the gym one day, and I dogged his ass. I love you, so, but I murked his ass so bad that I start screaming and shit because I used to only say this in my head. Like people just say, let's go, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 1:
[45:54] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[45:54] Nah, I used to always tell myself, we the ones, because I could never differentiate the me and I.

Speaker 1:
[46:01] Right.

Speaker 2:
[46:02] I don't like, right? So it was like, I just talked to myself even today. I just talked to myself. I don't know what me and I, I can't do it. I can't, right? So rather than say, let's go, I used to always talk to myself, come on, we don't want, we don't want, we don't want. But just, you know, him keeping me in the gym and he don't even know he did this for me. If he wasn't forcing me to be in the gym, I would have never got out of that depression and we don't want to have never been born.

Speaker 1:
[46:25] Right.

Speaker 2:
[46:26] And like that is, you know, so yeah.

Speaker 1:
[46:29] I'm going to throw out some names and let me know if you think you could beat them one on one.

Speaker 2:
[46:33] Why would you throw out names then?

Speaker 1:
[46:35] You think you can beat them one on one?

Speaker 3:
[46:36] I know.

Speaker 2:
[46:37] I don't think.

Speaker 1:
[46:38] Hello. As we sit here today, you feel you're the greatest one on one player.

Speaker 3:
[46:43] I've literally never lost.

Speaker 2:
[46:44] Okay, Bam, that's my man and he can set you.

Speaker 1:
[46:47] Bam beat you?

Speaker 2:
[46:48] Listen, listen, Bam has beaten me one time. How many games did it take him to beat me?

Speaker 3:
[46:54] How many years?

Speaker 2:
[46:56] Four summers? It's like literally like the way we do it in my gym, we don't just go one on one, one game. We'll play five or 11 or 15. We'll just play an odd amount of games. So at the end of it, somebody has to win. That's who wins the day.

Speaker 3:
[47:18] Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:
[47:19] So you're not talking about just one game.

Speaker 2:
[47:22] We don't count that because you can be hot right now, I could be hot right now. No, the best man won't do it two times, three times in a row.

Speaker 1:
[47:28] Are you going?

Speaker 2:
[47:28] Now, in four years, he'll tell you, I went like four years straight without losing a game, period. I'm lying.

Speaker 1:
[47:38] To anyone?

Speaker 2:
[47:39] I'm talking about we played 10 in the game today, and I'm winning all 10 of them. We played 20 today and I'm winning all 20 of them. Whoever come in this gym, I'm talking about for four years straight, Bam was the first person that got a day on me in four years, and still he's the last person that got a day on me. Damn. Bam, the only person that got a day on me.

Speaker 1:
[47:58] So with that being said, you're not surprised that Bam had an 83-point game?

Speaker 2:
[48:02] No, I've been telling y'all this. I've been telling him this. I hate the way he played. It wasn't spoiled the right way, the right way, which I understand the right way. But you got somebody like that that's going to be aggressive, if he go out there and shoot 40 shots a game.

Speaker 1:
[48:18] I don't think you can shoot 40 shots a game.

Speaker 2:
[48:19] Listen, listen, I'm not saying do it.

Speaker 3:
[48:20] Listen to what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:
[48:21] If he's that aggressive, you have no choice but to foul him.

Speaker 3:
[48:25] We've seen it. That 83 was 40 free throws.

Speaker 1:
[48:28] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[48:28] Because he was aggressive and y'all had to stop him. If he play aggressive like that every night, I ain't saying go shoot 40, just play aggressively, I promise you.

Speaker 1:
[48:37] But he go have more than 20.

Speaker 2:
[48:38] If he play aggressive, I promise you he's going to shoot 15 free throws a game.

Speaker 1:
[48:43] Right.

Speaker 2:
[48:44] That's right there. You're 30 right there. But he don't even play aggressive or look for the shots because of the-

Speaker 1:
[48:49] The system that he's in.

Speaker 3:
[48:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[48:51] If I just put your foot on the gas a little bit and they ain't going, like he's stronger than you. You ever been next time?

Speaker 3:
[48:57] Uh-uh.

Speaker 2:
[48:58] Bro, that man is a child.

Speaker 3:
[48:59] Oh, Bro, I ain't lying to you.

Speaker 2:
[49:04] Bam, I'm trying. Yeah, Bam, one of the strongest you've ever seen in your life.

Speaker 1:
[49:08] I mean, you got to name Bam. I mean, that is what you need to do.

Speaker 2:
[49:10] Yeah, if you, if he just put his foot on the gas, the other team has no choice but to foul him. He's going to be shooting 10, 15 free throws a game.

Speaker 1:
[49:18] But he caught a lot of criticism. They say, but, man, man, they fighting to die that day. It's counterfeit. He should, you know, some people say, well, Kobe, Kobe.

Speaker 2:
[49:27] Yeah, but you know how many people have been saying that the 100-point game is fake?

Speaker 1:
[49:32] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[49:32] All right, cool. I'm not going to be saying the same shit. So what?

Speaker 1:
[49:36] I mean, I never thought, I mean, look, I am not going to lie. I didn't think I'd see somebody get 80. I definitely didn't think somebody see something.

Speaker 2:
[49:42] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[49:42] I figured the thing is, you don't do the B's.

Speaker 2:
[49:44] And it behooves me to know that everybody in the NBA City had a player coming in as much as 50 and 25 and nobody brought a camera.

Speaker 4:
[49:58] So it's like, yeah, I can say the same thing about a hundred points.

Speaker 1:
[50:00] But you ain't nobody have no cam for this.

Speaker 3:
[50:02] Yeah. Cool.

Speaker 2:
[50:02] So how did it happen or did it happen?

Speaker 1:
[50:04] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[50:04] Or did it, right? It's like, we've been hearing criticism my whole life. Now we just going to criticize, extra criticize BAM for it.

Speaker 1:
[50:12] You know what I think the biggest thing is with BAM's game? It's because BAM is not looked at as a score. If it's Luca, if it's one of these guys that's a score, you know, James Harden or Donovan Mitchell, guys.

Speaker 2:
[50:24] I got my hand ready.

Speaker 1:
[50:24] Dame Lillard. Wait, go ahead, talk to me.

Speaker 2:
[50:26] LeBron James is not looked at as a score. Right now, he's currently the-

Speaker 1:
[50:30] All-time lead scorer in NBA history.

Speaker 2:
[50:32] Okay. Why y'all keep waiting for them to tell us what a score is?

Speaker 1:
[50:35] Because BAM-

Speaker 2:
[50:36] Birch Fly, Fish Swim.

Speaker 1:
[50:37] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[50:38] We don't do the same thing. Monkey Climb Trees. Right?

Speaker 1:
[50:43] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[50:43] So if I'm waiting for BAM to do it like D-Rose.

Speaker 1:
[50:48] Right.

Speaker 4:
[50:49] Right? It's like, bro, stop judging people because they don't do it your way.

Speaker 1:
[50:52] Right.

Speaker 2:
[50:53] Michael Jordan this, and Clyde this. And it's like, cool, they did it their way. This is our version. we all wanted to be Michael Jordan. This is our best rendition. But y'all judge it because it's not Mike? Cool, bro, he got 10,000 points more than Mike. You can call him the greatest or not, The history books. And remember I told you about that 100-point game?

Speaker 1:
[51:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[51:13] Bro, they ain't gonna be thinking about that.

Speaker 1:
[51:16] Did you hear when Josh Hart said he could beat KD 101?

Speaker 4:
[51:19] He can beat KD 101?

Speaker 1:
[51:20] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[51:21] Josh Hart said he can beat KD 101?

Speaker 1:
[51:22] KD said he was smoking crack.

Speaker 2:
[51:23] Wait. Josh Hart said he can beat James?

Speaker 1:
[51:29] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[51:29] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[51:30] I didn't see that.

Speaker 3:
[51:31] He said that?

Speaker 1:
[51:32] Yeah. He can beat KD 101? No, he was saying that B could beat KD 101.

Speaker 2:
[51:37] Oh, I can beat KD 101?

Speaker 3:
[51:38] Oh.

Speaker 1:
[51:41] You think you can beat KD 101?

Speaker 3:
[51:43] Huh?

Speaker 1:
[51:43] You think you can beat KD 101? I don't know about that. I don't know about that, B.

Speaker 4:
[51:50] I don't...

Speaker 1:
[51:50] Hey, Reaper, Slim.

Speaker 4:
[51:53] Hey, hey, can we...

Speaker 2:
[51:54] Can't, can't, can't, can't, can't.

Speaker 1:
[51:56] Hey.

Speaker 2:
[51:56] Can't, can't, can't. I love your thoughts. I won't disrespect your perspective. But while you and them argue about half full and half empty, I'm just going to tell you it's a dirty glass. Remember I told you your truth versus the truth?

Speaker 1:
[52:09] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[52:09] I just know. I don't think.

Speaker 1:
[52:12] So who could beat you 101? So if I put... If I came to the table and say, okay.

Speaker 2:
[52:17] Bro, God cursed me with this. Don't get mad at me, get mad at him. You talk to him about that. Go to your prayers. I ain't got nothing to do with that.

Speaker 1:
[52:21] I'll tell you what I'm going to do.

Speaker 2:
[52:22] I ain't got nothing to do with that.

Speaker 1:
[52:23] I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2:
[52:25] God sent it and I just signed for the package. I don't know how it got here. Y'all keep... Bro, you can think all you want to. the right answer will always be that.

Speaker 1:
[52:36] I'll put 250,000 on the line. Winner take all. We play it to 11. Put it up. Who beaten you 101? I'll tell you what. You know my co-host.

Speaker 2:
[52:45] A coach?

Speaker 1:
[52:46] My co-host.

Speaker 2:
[52:47] Rick Adelman?

Speaker 1:
[52:47] My co-host said he'd get you.

Speaker 2:
[52:50] Hey, Batman. Hey, Batman, I love you to death. Right? I haven't said your name.

Speaker 1:
[52:58] I...

Speaker 2:
[52:59] Because it's no joke, right? I want you to get healthy. I want you to get real healthy.

Speaker 1:
[53:04] He healthy. He coming. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[53:08] I want you to get real healthy. I want you to come to my gym, and I want you to do it the respectful way. That shit that me and Lance did, that shit was nasty. I don't play basketball like that. You understand? I'm going to wait for you, Batman. They ain't got to be involved. Keep them out of here. I know you talking about...

Speaker 1:
[53:28] I ain't say no name, Beasley. I'm out. Hey, I'm over here.

Speaker 2:
[53:32] I told Ocho the same thing. He told you he seen me in Wim Wood? Yeah, the Boogeyman.

Speaker 4:
[53:39] Right? I stopped talking.

Speaker 2:
[53:42] I know what I know. You're trying to get me to know something differently?

Speaker 1:
[53:46] I'm minding my black business.

Speaker 2:
[53:48] Yeah, that's the business going to pay you.

Speaker 1:
[53:54] Everybody said that you did play LeBron one-on-one in Miami.

Speaker 2:
[53:57] No, the story was told wrong.

Speaker 1:
[53:59] Tell me the story.

Speaker 2:
[54:02] I used to play Bron. I used to guard him in practice.

Speaker 1:
[54:06] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[54:06] Right? I used to 94 foot this nigger. Just because I wanted to make him better, but I wanted to be better and I wanted to get caught.

Speaker 1:
[54:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[54:14] One day, it was mid-season, like almost late season and he was just tired. He wasn't scared of me. He wasn't playing one-on-one. He was just tired because we just come off back-to-back or some shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[54:30] I was going to guard him 94 feet.

Speaker 2:
[54:32] I didn't care about that tired shit.

Speaker 1:
[54:34] You didn't try to hear that.

Speaker 2:
[54:35] This is out of respect, not out of him. So I get down and guard him and he yelled to the top of his lung, Mario Chalmers is guarding me today. So I looked at him and it was like.

Speaker 1:
[54:48] No, you're not.

Speaker 2:
[54:49] I didn't say it, but I thought it. I just got back in defense and he said again, Mario Chalmers is guarding me today. Turn around, Mario like, Biggie go ahead and I went on and gave Chris Bosh the blues that day.

Speaker 1:
[55:06] Oh, you put that work on Chris Bosh?

Speaker 2:
[55:08] Yeah. But Chris, I love Chris. Chris, he worked me out too. Don't just think it's one-sided. But the reporter that told the story, he's there all the time. So he was able to see that I was playing defense on him in practice. And then one day, he don't know that Bronn tired. All he see is Bronn don't want Michael Beasley to guard him. And that's the story he ran with. Nobody gave, Bronn was averaging 30, 40 points. At the time, I'm not realizing this, but you think he want to deal with this in practice every goddamn day? I'm carrying the organization, right? But, I was depressed, so I just let the story run.

Speaker 1:
[55:49] You ain't corrected, huh? You ain't corrected.

Speaker 2:
[55:50] Yeah, that's why. And then I was on Aidan podcast, right? And he asked me the same question.

Speaker 4:
[55:55] Would you know this bitch ass, me eating them hot ass wings?

Speaker 2:
[55:59] Well, I was sitting there trying to keep it, crying like, go watch that shit, but I was crying. That's all it was I said.

Speaker 1:
[56:04] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I beat him. I beat him 30 times.

Speaker 2:
[56:07] But I just ain't wanted to eat another one of them wings. That shit was hot as, but nah. I never even played round one-on-one like outside of, we played a couple of times in practice and shit, but no, that story was just told to me.

Speaker 1:
[56:20] Lay and Steve, you played Lay and Steve for 100,000.

Speaker 2:
[56:23] I made way more than that. Look, these are the shoes I wore. I knew you was going to ask me.

Speaker 1:
[56:27] You wore the times in a basketball game?

Speaker 2:
[56:30] Yeah. Hey, Deon, Deon, hey, look, when you sent me that package, the building I was in, they was over my package, but I didn't get my package. But yeah, that's why I wore these, This month for these two million-dollar shoes, a hundred thousand, I made a lot of money.

Speaker 1:
[56:43] So you play one-on-one for money? Do guys come to your gym trying to challenge you for one-on-one?

Speaker 2:
[56:49] Yeah. I play for free.

Speaker 4:
[56:50] That's why they was dumb giving me money.

Speaker 2:
[56:53] But now you got to give me the money because look, we did. But you come to my gym, you just got to find where the gym is. We ain't never going to tell you. But if you can find where the gym is, man, listen, bro, I sharpen the sword just for the sake of the sword being sharp. I don't sit here and wait for the war to get started. You prepare for war in times of peace, Denzel Washington told me that. Right? Why y'all think I'm sitting here for a tide?

Speaker 1:
[57:16] No, it's sharp.

Speaker 2:
[57:18] I swear.

Speaker 1:
[57:19] So when somebody comes to the gym and they come in a brown bag and they got $50K, they say, hey, bro, one on one.

Speaker 2:
[57:24] I'm telling them to keep their money and burn their ass up for free.

Speaker 1:
[57:27] No, you got to get the money, B.

Speaker 4:
[57:28] Who got to get the money?

Speaker 1:
[57:30] You.

Speaker 2:
[57:30] Why?

Speaker 1:
[57:31] Because they challenged you.

Speaker 2:
[57:32] I will when you put the cameras on, but when we getting better for the sake of getting better, we just men doing what men do. You know, iron can only shop in iron, right? So why the would I be in there swinging that Jell-O? No, just come in and bring your heart. I don't give a about your money. We men, the females love the money.

Speaker 1:
[57:57] Is there anybody playing currently in the NBA that reminds you of Michael Beasley? Yeah. Who reminds you of Beasley?

Speaker 2:
[58:04] Brandi Ingram. 6'10, with everything.

Speaker 3:
[58:17] JT.

Speaker 1:
[58:19] Cause you guys have been some, his rookie year, he had 13.9, 5.4 rebounds on 20. Your rookie year, you had-

Speaker 2:
[58:26] So he's my- He's my-

Speaker 1:
[58:29] A 9.5 graded car.

Speaker 2:
[58:31] He's my- He's my-

Speaker 1:
[58:34] Doppelganger?

Speaker 2:
[58:36] If Michael Beasley wasn't bad. Cause we averaged the same points, same, and they just gave him a chance and I'm not saying that I would have did that because that awesome, awesome.

Speaker 1:
[58:47] He cold, cold.

Speaker 2:
[58:48] But I just like to think, you know-

Speaker 1:
[58:50] What could have been?

Speaker 2:
[58:51] I just like to think that this could have been, right? So not only do I see myself in him, but I played him, he came to our gym, respected that man and can do it.

Speaker 1:
[59:04] You can-

Speaker 2:
[59:04] He about as strong as BAM. That boy can do it. But if I'm being honest with myself, I looked at Jason Tatum and BAM and said, I didn't lift weights enough.

Speaker 1:
[59:16] I wasn't disciplined enough.

Speaker 2:
[59:18] No, I should have been, because I was. I was strong as shit. I come out of college because I lift weights.

Speaker 1:
[59:21] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[59:22] That's the only way I did what I did in college, because I lift weights every day.

Speaker 1:
[59:24] Did you lift weight in the league when you got to-

Speaker 2:
[59:26] Yeah, but-

Speaker 1:
[59:27] Not like you should have.

Speaker 2:
[59:28] My life got a hold of me. Not in the partying sense, but just my mom, my family just having to be there, having to be there, so I would have to leave a lot. The heat just didn't have my back. Rather than tell me, yo, lift, lift, lift. At the end of the rookie year, the beat writers put out Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers get fined $85,000 worth of missed lift weight. It's like y'all always just laughed at me rather than asked me what was going on.

Speaker 1:
[59:55] They always talk about the negativity, and never talk about anything positive.

Speaker 4:
[59:59] Even now, even now, even now.

Speaker 2:
[60:00] It's like you can't talk about me having 30 points or 40 points or a good shot or a last shot without, yeah, but his mental issues. It's like, dog, people are just so stupid.

Speaker 1:
[60:13] Bees, if you could go back and do anything, if I could, you know, you know what you know now, here you are 36, 37 years of age, and I can get you to go all the way back. What would you do different?

Speaker 2:
[60:23] Nothing. I always thought I learned the lessons. You go through what you go through because God wants you to go through.

Speaker 1:
[60:30] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[60:32] If I would have changed, then you know how different reality will be even for you. You probably wouldn't be sitting here right now. No. How selfish of me to just change. No, I learned the lessons as I move on. Memories are what hold us back. Yesterday never happened. Tomorrow doesn't exist. If it wasn't for memories, we wouldn't know anything. Right? So no, I wouldn't change anything. I'm just grateful for the lessons. I'm just happy I can teach the next.

Speaker 1:
[61:00] Consequences. They say consequences, lessons without consequences, there can be no lesson learned.

Speaker 2:
[61:06] Consensus are necessary.

Speaker 1:
[61:09] Necessary. Rich Paul said that if Michael Beasley had an opportunity to do it all over again, he would take a different approach because Rich Paul.

Speaker 2:
[61:19] He said I would take a different approach?

Speaker 1:
[61:20] Yes. He said you're one of the most talented people.

Speaker 2:
[61:22] I think Rich Paul should take a different approach. When Rich Paul came to me at 25 years old, he came to me and rather than admire who I wanted to be, I told him, I said, bro, I want to change my image because I don't understand how I got to shoot it or at least, right? I just told him I want to change. He looked at me and said, bro, it ain't no money for Michael Beasley off the court. Which that turned me off to our meeting. If I can do anything over again, I would have signed with him because he looked at me and said, yo, I'm a dude like everywhere Bronn go, you're going to go. His approach was wrong because I was 25 and I'm still trying to be Bronn. I wish he would have seen that. Rich Paul said, I love Rich. I love Bronn. I love that. But they never accepted who I was. Bronn did. Bronn like a little bit. Rich never accepted who I was. Rich just always just wanted me to do what he wanted to do without accepting.

Speaker 1:
[62:18] Who you were?

Speaker 2:
[62:20] Just like the rest of the NBA.

Speaker 1:
[62:21] Do you wish you had gotten married earlier? Do you wish you had settled down with one woman, gotten married, been stable in a stable situation, and focused on basketball and became the best Michael Beasley you could become?

Speaker 2:
[62:32] Says Tim Duncan? Says Kevin Garnett? Says, how many times you been divorced?

Speaker 1:
[62:41] I've never been married.

Speaker 2:
[62:42] So why do I got to get married?

Speaker 1:
[62:46] You don't want to do anything?

Speaker 2:
[62:47] Do I want a family? Yeah, I tried for a family, but now, like I said, for me to wish I did over was disrespect the lessons. I don't care about what happened and I learned what I learned.

Speaker 3:
[63:00] You learn what you learn.

Speaker 2:
[63:02] But now, going forward, I don't trust these women to be honest. They can't go out like, okay, I asked women, judgment day, the all-knowing.

Speaker 1:
[63:14] Yeah, the omnipotent one.

Speaker 2:
[63:17] What do you say?

Speaker 4:
[63:20] How do you say it?

Speaker 2:
[63:21] What do you wear and how much makeup do you got on? I know if I created something and gave everything y'all needed and y'all came back and made this, I'd be pissed.

Speaker 1:
[63:34] Do you think it's hard to find the woman in the NBA? Is it hard for you as an NBA player to find someone, you'll find your forever partner or do you need to have met her before you got into the NBA?

Speaker 2:
[63:49] Everybody's different. Ray Allen got the dopest wife. They've been married for a long time.

Speaker 1:
[63:57] Bronn's been married for a long time. Steph Curry met his wife I think in college.

Speaker 2:
[64:01] Y'all disrespect Bronn. Bronn is literally life goals. Literally life goals. The only thing you can say bad about him is his shot. Married to his high school sweetheart still. In the NBA, longest, right? My son is in the NBA and my other one is coming. Yes. Shut up if I'm wrong, right? So, yeah, I love that part, but I don't think my mom raised me to be like that. My mom always taught me how not to get caught. Y'all was always taught not to get in trouble.

Speaker 3:
[64:35] So, I just...

Speaker 1:
[64:38] How are you raising your kid? What type of father are you?

Speaker 2:
[64:41] I'm just honest. Honest. I just... I keep adults, like, because... How are you?

Speaker 1:
[64:50] Almost 58.

Speaker 2:
[64:51] People tell you the actual age, but when you turn 59, you've never been that before.

Speaker 1:
[64:54] Right.

Speaker 2:
[64:55] So, how do you know? Right? So, I'm just honest as long as they age allows. I will never tell my 16-year-old things that I've been through when I was 25.

Speaker 1:
[65:05] Right. He's never been... He's not that age.

Speaker 4:
[65:08] She's not going to understand it.

Speaker 2:
[65:09] She.

Speaker 4:
[65:09] She.

Speaker 2:
[65:11] She not going to understand it.

Speaker 3:
[65:12] Right. Right.

Speaker 2:
[65:13] I will never tell Mikey things that have happened to me at 30, because he's not going to... Right? If a thief comes to your house, you don't know if it's a thief or a regular person, but the second you tell him, don't steal the things in my house, now you can't tell who's who.

Speaker 1:
[65:27] Right?

Speaker 2:
[65:27] We let one situation jade us all. You understand? So, no, I tell my kids the truth how they see it.

Speaker 1:
[65:34] Right.

Speaker 2:
[65:34] Their business is not their business, because I'm an adult and they're what?

Speaker 1:
[65:38] Child.

Speaker 2:
[65:38] They do what I say. Why? Because if you're not scared of your parents, you're not scared of the coach, you're not scared of the cops, and you're not scared of life. Discipline is needed. We're just so scared to, you know, whatever.

Speaker 1:
[65:57] Your kids, you see, you mentioned LeBron and playing with his son, Brawny, and particularly have another one, Bright, playing in it. Are you okay? If you're okay with your kids don't play basketball, are you okay? Do you want those kids? What do you want for your kids?

Speaker 2:
[66:13] To be kids and then grow into be teenagers and then grow into be adults.

Speaker 1:
[66:17] That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Speaker 2:
[66:19] You want to take credit for everything good they do, but if one of them become a cry kid, are you going to take credit for that?

Speaker 1:
[66:24] No, we all want to take credit for the good.

Speaker 2:
[66:26] No, you do your job, and when they fly, you just let them fly. If you're able to catch them if they can't, you know, that's your fault as a good parent. That should be living in his own, flying in his own.

Speaker 1:
[66:41] But, you know, we love them.

Speaker 2:
[66:42] So if they fall, we catch them.

Speaker 4:
[66:45] But their life is their own, right?

Speaker 2:
[66:47] They want to be a scientist, they want to be a basketball player, they want to be a football player.

Speaker 3:
[66:51] No.

Speaker 2:
[66:53] The only thing I don't let my kids do is play football.

Speaker 1:
[66:55] Whoa, whoa, whoa. We're gonna watch it.

Speaker 3:
[66:57] Huh?

Speaker 2:
[66:57] We're gonna watch it.

Speaker 1:
[66:58] Why you don't watch football?

Speaker 2:
[66:59] Because if they fall in love with it, that's the only thing I'm gonna tell them they can't do. CTE is a real thing, and y'all act like it's not real.

Speaker 1:
[67:04] Yeah, it's real.

Speaker 2:
[67:04] Yeah, like the pay, the healthcare afterwards, like Albert Hainworth is one of my real friends. And like the way he was paid in the NBA and the way they treated him in the NFL, and the way they treat him after the NFL, how dare I tell my kids to pick up a football? Like, I need help, and like, you're the good one, but what about the ones that juniors say y'all was?

Speaker 1:
[67:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[67:29] Right? Y'all just call them crazy until what? Y'all can dissect their brain?

Speaker 1:
[67:33] Right.

Speaker 2:
[67:33] No, ask questions, man. Go home with these people, right? But nah, man, that's too much banging in the head. Squirrels don't deserve that.

Speaker 1:
[67:43] You think you can play in the NBA today?

Speaker 2:
[67:45] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[67:46] Somebody called you right now to say, Beasley, we will get you.

Speaker 2:
[67:48] No, I don't think. I know.

Speaker 1:
[67:51] So you can make a roster. If somebody gave you a legit opportunity.

Speaker 2:
[67:55] He watches me every day.

Speaker 1:
[67:57] No, I'm asking you.

Speaker 2:
[67:57] But yeah, I'm supposed to say yes.

Speaker 1:
[67:59] No, but you be honest, though. You've been honest with me the whole while.

Speaker 2:
[68:02] So yes, you're thinking yes, 100 percent. Yes. I'm kind of upset with you right now.

Speaker 1:
[68:09] Why are you upset with me?

Speaker 2:
[68:10] Because I was originally told that this is going to be on tomorrow.

Speaker 1:
[68:13] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[68:14] And it was on today.

Speaker 1:
[68:16] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[68:16] I couldn't get my work in this morning.

Speaker 1:
[68:18] I'm sorry. Who do you think is the best player in the NBA right now? As we sit here today.

Speaker 2:
[68:25] Right now?

Speaker 1:
[68:26] Right now.

Speaker 2:
[68:32] I think Shay figured out how to score the best. I think Ant passes the best eye test. I think LeBron thinks the best. And I think Wimby has the most potential.

Speaker 1:
[68:46] Well, you got Yoke-age.

Speaker 2:
[68:47] I think Yoke-age is the only anomaly that I've ever seen. Bro, I hate him, man.

Speaker 1:
[68:55] I've never seen anything like Yoke.

Speaker 4:
[68:57] Bro, he just make it look so chill.

Speaker 2:
[69:00] So, honestly, I think just stat-wise and winning-wise, Yoke-age, yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1:
[69:08] Because normally we see guys be there soon. We look at Jordan, we look at Colby, we look at LeBron, we look at super athletic guys.

Speaker 2:
[69:15] If I was Russell Westbrook, I would be mad at Yoke-age. Because it's like, I come and do the Oscar Roberts thing for four years straight and that was history. And now this nigger just walking on triple W's every night. He just sleeping on them.

Speaker 1:
[69:30] He gonna lead the league in remodeling assists, which is crazy.

Speaker 2:
[69:33] Yeah, stat-wise, winning-wise, playing their own way. You gotta say Joke-age. You understand? But like I said, Bron think the best when we got the best, most potential. Shay score the best and pass is the best. I just.

Speaker 1:
[69:54] What's the best pick-up game you ever had?

Speaker 2:
[69:57] I don't know, how many? We done had some in that gym. We had some.

Speaker 1:
[70:02] Y'all be going at it.

Speaker 2:
[70:03] Bro, I went against TMAC before.

Speaker 1:
[70:05] How'd you do?

Speaker 2:
[70:08] I didn't know I did good. Like I went to TMAC house and to me, I was busting ass, but nobody told me I was busting ass. So I just went home just thinking I didn't. And then he come on this TV, talking about Michael Beasley, the best player I ever seen. He ain't tell me that shit when I was at Houston.

Speaker 1:
[70:25] I want to be your friend. So you want to hear that? He didn't tell you that then, he told you that years later.

Speaker 2:
[70:31] Yeah, he said this shit like maybe a year ago, but it's like at the time, I was so scared to even just be at his house. I was just like, damn, this got a flat spoke on his house?

Speaker 1:
[70:39] What the?

Speaker 2:
[70:41] Like, literally in his living room. Like, let me say, you can see his heads and shit while we're hooping. This is the fire and shit I was standing on. I was in there just nervous. There is T-Mac, there's T-Mac. I was just happy to just be there and shit, but I was just nervous, and then when I left, they didn't want to kick it with me again. That was the only time I was at his house. So I just didn't think they liked me, but then he said what he said.

Speaker 1:
[71:07] Give me your top five rap hoopers.

Speaker 2:
[71:09] Rap hoopers?

Speaker 1:
[71:10] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[71:13] That's the P?

Speaker 1:
[71:14] P. Who else hoop? Dave East, CB., J. Cole.

Speaker 2:
[71:20] I played with Dave East.

Speaker 1:
[71:21] He good?

Speaker 2:
[71:22] He played on my AU team. Yeah, he was good. He was just like Lethal Shooter, not shooting as far on your three-point shooter. J. Cole, I ain't never seen him hoop. He looked trash to me though.

Speaker 1:
[71:31] What about Breezy?

Speaker 2:
[71:33] Chris Brown?

Speaker 3:
[71:33] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[71:34] Chris Brown like what?

Speaker 3:
[71:35] 5'11?

Speaker 1:
[71:38] No, he's six.

Speaker 2:
[71:39] I ain't never seen him hoop.

Speaker 1:
[71:40] I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[71:41] He looked trash to me.

Speaker 1:
[71:42] Quavo say he can hoop.

Speaker 2:
[71:44] I seen Quavo shoot before, but he can just make shots. His jump shot looks right. Quavo can hoop though. I ain't going to lie. He hoop, but-

Speaker 1:
[71:53] J. Cole about to play in China.

Speaker 2:
[71:55] I ain't never seen J. Cole-

Speaker 1:
[71:56] Cole about to play in China.

Speaker 2:
[71:57] No, he look trash to me. I don't know, but no, I never seen him in person. Want me to lie to you?

Speaker 1:
[72:05] No.

Speaker 2:
[72:07] You really got me in a ship club right now.

Speaker 1:
[72:12] Think about the Beas. How upset are you that weed is legal now in the NBA?

Speaker 2:
[72:17] Why would I be upset?

Speaker 1:
[72:19] Because it was different when you played. Because just think about if you played now, what they judged against you, what they held against you, you'd be, you'd be.

Speaker 2:
[72:29] That's not true. It's still okay it's getting judged today.

Speaker 1:
[72:34] They ain't judged now. Guys smoke weed. Weed is a thing now. Everybody smokes. We seem like, man, everybody smokes weed.

Speaker 2:
[72:39] They're not getting in trouble for it, but they still getting judged for it.

Speaker 1:
[72:41] Yes, but I'm saying.

Speaker 2:
[72:42] I just got in trouble for it and judged at the same time.

Speaker 1:
[72:45] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[72:46] They're not getting in trouble for it because it's legal. Why do you think some of these number two, number one picks are not getting the contracts they're supposed to get? Because you still getting judged for it. I can judge you silently. That's my feeling. You don't got to know I'm judging you right now.

Speaker 1:
[73:05] But I don't know if society-

Speaker 2:
[73:06] You think I like your sneakers.

Speaker 1:
[73:09] But is society judging us?

Speaker 3:
[73:10] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[73:11] You think society judge you for weed?

Speaker 3:
[73:14] Hey, hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 1:
[73:16] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[73:17] Say Drew. Say something bad about them. Say your camera right there. Say gay. Say you don't like the alphabet community. Say it. Oh, right there.

Speaker 1:
[73:28] No, I'm saying-

Speaker 2:
[73:29] But why are you sitting there telling me society don't judge?

Speaker 1:
[73:31] No, I'm not saying society doesn't judge. I'm talking about weed.

Speaker 2:
[73:34] You're the same person that just asks me if LeBron and Memphis.

Speaker 1:
[73:38] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[73:39] Bro, yes, they judge. Literally, the questions we get asked, we'll give you our thoughts.

Speaker 1:
[73:45] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[73:46] Then you guys will grade them as the answers of the test that we don't know we're taking. So, do they judge? Yeah. Do I wish they didn't judge me? Yes. Am I mad about it? No, because I wouldn't be able to speak to you as I'm speaking to you now.

Speaker 1:
[74:00] But you do realize anytime you have an opinion on anything, no matter what the topic is, somebody is going to be diametrically opposed to what you said.

Speaker 2:
[74:07] How pitiful.

Speaker 3:
[74:10] Why is that my business?

Speaker 2:
[74:13] You know I only go to sleep with my own mind. Nipsey Hussey said, would you rather be at war with the world than at peace with yourself or at peace with the world? But you guys judge me for what I do. I go home. People in my head I make friends with. It's okay. Stop acting like you don't hear them. Then you come outside and then they act, they act, and then you gotta act, and then you ask me what judgment is. It's real. I'm at peace with myself.

Speaker 1:
[74:50] That's all that matters. You got a clothing brand. Your clothing brand, We The Ones.

Speaker 2:
[74:56] We Them Ones.

Speaker 1:
[74:57] We Them Ones. How did the clothing brand come about, and what does We Them Ones mean?

Speaker 2:
[75:03] We Them Ones is like a single plural.

Speaker 1:
[75:05] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[75:05] Right? So like we all men that can't speak about our feelings, but I just want you to know that even though you're alone, you're not, that's where We Them Ones come from. And this is just something I used to say in my head, something I used to get through. Everybody say, let's go. And I just didn't want to say, let's go. I just always ask myself, like, go where?

Speaker 1:
[75:26] Right.

Speaker 2:
[75:26] So I just always say, We Them Ones. And I told you I was depressed when I ran on 2018-19.

Speaker 1:
[75:33] Right.

Speaker 2:
[75:33] And just didn't know why the NBA didn't want me.

Speaker 1:
[75:35] Right.

Speaker 2:
[75:36] So like just in the gym with my guys, just being there every day and just remember why I fell in love with the game, with no money involved. It just gave me confidence to say it out loud. And I think we got the date the first time I said it out loud, playing one-on-ones against Amman Shumpert. And I didn't know it was a thing.

Speaker 4:
[75:55] I didn't know.

Speaker 2:
[75:57] And people started saying it back, like it was cool, like it was cool. So it was something organic. And then it's like, you know, I like Nike never gave me a shoot there so I, you know, just try to make my own Nike.

Speaker 1:
[76:10] Right. But you also created a music app. Tell us about the music app that you created.

Speaker 2:
[76:15] I ain't created it. My man Omar created it. And you know, I'm just like kind of help him. But it's called Aria. It's like basically. Basically, like so like like Instagram.

Speaker 1:
[76:26] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[76:26] Like TikTok.

Speaker 1:
[76:27] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[76:28] You know, you go viral for a song. You go viral for whatever you drop your song on there. And it's licensed through. And we only take in a small percentages rather than you going to get a big deal. So, you know, you can go viral tonight.

Speaker 1:
[76:40] Right.

Speaker 2:
[76:41] And if the song is as good as you think it is.

Speaker 1:
[76:43] Right.

Speaker 2:
[76:43] You wake up or six weeks from later or the next night, you can wake up with 10, 20 or 100 subscribers. Like, I'll show you, I dropped one song just to f*** around.

Speaker 1:
[76:55] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[76:55] And I got seven people paying me $5 a month. I don't f*** that. Right. But it's like, dog, I got $7, you know? And it's like, I just think that's cool for one, to just express yourself. And two, you know, you get paid while you're doing it.

Speaker 1:
[77:08] Right.

Speaker 2:
[77:08] You know, so.

Speaker 1:
[77:10] You're in the gym, you mentioned that you're in the gym every day, working on your craft, trying to get better. Obviously, you're back to back MVP in the BIG3. You won a championship in the BIG3. What is your goal? You're in the gym every day. Is it just for exercise or are you actually working on your craft, trying to get better?

Speaker 2:
[77:28] So one of my favorite quotes is, you go looking for God and find yourself, turn around and look for yourself and find God. So that's like how I was with the gym. Like right now, I've just been finding myself and the God that I've found is, and this is why I tell you I wouldn't change my past because the pain that I was able to endure and keep showing up and show has been a lessons to the kids or would not to be. And we laugh about it and we got some good kids that came out of our gym trying to think of me because of Dasmon Baines and that makes them real way better than Michael Beasley money. So without those lessons, I wouldn't be able to teach the way I'm teaching in the gym. So I went looking for myself and I found We The Ones. And now We The Ones has turned into what it is today. And now we're looking to, not even looking, we're in a process of building gyms here at Atlanta, our second city. We're building a one-on-one gym, one-on-one league. And we're doing everything from youth sports. So I know what I said, what I said about NIL where money shouldn't evolve. But we're going to try to do it the right way to where kids can not only know how to monetize themselves, but they can have something to fall on if sports, not only basketball, but all sports, if sports don't work out. So I literally just use my lessons, use my pain and just try to teach.

Speaker 1:
[79:03] Michael Beasley. Appreciate you, bro. Y'all know who it is. It's your favorite uncle. And I want to thank 11 Night Club for having us. We could not have done this without you. So I appreciate the last three days and what you've been able to do. We want to thank your staff. We want to thank everybody that was a part of this, that made this possible. The wonderful Marissa that brought us the drinks every day that we came out. So everybody at 11 Night Club, thank you so much for your hospitality. And everybody at Club Shay Shay wants to thank you because none of this is possible without you. So thank you guys. We really, really appreciate it. And we look forward to coming back down here and shooting again with you guys soon. Thank you very much, 11.