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Speaker 1:
[00:02] Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.

Speaker 2:
[00:09] Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Two Ts In A Pod with myself, Teddi Mellencamp, and Dolores Catania.

Speaker 3:
[00:16] Why do you look so excited?

Speaker 2:
[00:18] This is like a sickness.

Speaker 4:
[00:20] You sick bitch. I'm a sick bitch.

Speaker 2:
[00:24] I watched it again this morning with my mouth agape.

Speaker 3:
[00:28] Wait.

Speaker 1:
[00:33] Look, we're so fucking giddy. It's disgusting. Mouth agape.

Speaker 2:
[00:38] There's so many things. But before we even get into recapping, West did his own podcast.

Speaker 1:
[00:43] I saw.

Speaker 2:
[00:44] Okay. So in that podcast, we need to break this down because I was like, maybe I'm not smart enough to understand. Okay. So it's called Show Me Something Podcast with Sophie Cunningham.

Speaker 1:
[00:56] I don't.

Speaker 2:
[00:57] It's the first I've ever seen her before in my life, but whatever. West did a podcast and he said he sent text to his castmates and didn't receive response from everybody. He said there was no overlap and he and Amanda started dating in February. But then he also said they got serious in February and that's when they wanted to tell everybody. He says he wishes all the pain and suffering that came to Amanda would come to him because Amanda got doxxed, just means her phone number was leaked and somebody called her a home wrecking whore.

Speaker 4:
[01:31] Or whore.

Speaker 2:
[01:32] How do you say it? Whore. Whore. Who whore?

Speaker 4:
[01:37] Whore.

Speaker 3:
[01:38] Whore. Whore.

Speaker 4:
[01:39] Whore.

Speaker 2:
[01:40] But first and foremost, how can you say there's no overlap? It didn't happen until February, but then he was like in February, we realized it was going to be serious.

Speaker 1:
[01:54] Well, is that when they consummated the relationship?

Speaker 2:
[02:01] So February 1st, they made out and then February 15th, they boned and then they were like, Valentine's Day is the real anniversary.

Speaker 1:
[02:14] No, like, sit. No, like we don't know. We don't know. We're going to find out everything. You can't wait for the reunion, can you?

Speaker 2:
[02:20] I can't wait. Cannot wait.

Speaker 1:
[02:22] You're you're funny. Oh, are you dying over this shit?

Speaker 4:
[02:27] I can't.

Speaker 2:
[02:28] I honestly had to be this happy. I know, by the way, this is this is how happy you see me when I'm recapping this or Southern Charm. Like I get so good, like because how so you just know what you're going to get. You just know like, you know, it's predictable.

Speaker 4:
[02:49] It's predictable.

Speaker 2:
[02:50] And it's all about, you know, fighting and resolution.

Speaker 1:
[02:55] You know, the end to every play and like just different actors.

Speaker 4:
[02:59] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[03:00] And this is just so, so not that this is different.

Speaker 1:
[03:04] Uncharted Waters for you.

Speaker 4:
[03:05] This is Uncharted Waters.

Speaker 2:
[03:07] Look how excited I know.

Speaker 1:
[03:09] My goodness, Teddy.

Speaker 2:
[03:11] Yeah. So this is Episode 12 of Season 10. I even this is what the issue I have. I even went back and watched some of Season Five because that is when Ciara was dating the other guy.

Speaker 4:
[03:27] Luke?

Speaker 1:
[03:29] When she first came on?

Speaker 2:
[03:30] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[03:31] When she first came on to the scene, she was dating Luke.

Speaker 4:
[03:33] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[03:34] When she was dating Luke. I came on later.

Speaker 1:
[03:38] Ashley Darby dated. Down the road.

Speaker 2:
[03:40] That's the same guy.

Speaker 1:
[03:42] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[03:44] Oh my gosh. I never put that together.

Speaker 4:
[03:46] Dolores.

Speaker 1:
[03:47] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[03:48] He's cute.

Speaker 1:
[03:48] He's a really nice guy, by the way. Did you see him make a comment? He made a comment.

Speaker 2:
[03:53] Well, he dates everyone. What was his comment on this?

Speaker 1:
[03:56] His comment was he wants to see everyone happy and he's still friends with everyone. And yeah, well, because he's also running for Congress. Oh, good luck to him. He said he seems like a really good guy.

Speaker 4:
[04:12] He seems like a great. He needs to be on Rhode Island.

Speaker 1:
[04:15] I know that he's a congressman. However, he plays hockey. He teaches young kids how to play hockey. Luke. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[04:29] Okay. So yeah, I mean, he's like a good old boy, Luke.

Speaker 1:
[04:32] But even back then. He built his log cabin over there.

Speaker 2:
[04:35] Ciara kind of put a stop to everything with Luke when she realized what was going down with Hannah. Like Ciara has always kind of been like this. I don't know much about her relationship with Austin because I didn't watch Winter Games. Did you watch Winter Games?

Speaker 1:
[04:52] No.

Speaker 2:
[04:53] Yeah. So I mean, we all have our boundaries.

Speaker 1:
[04:55] Winter House.

Speaker 2:
[04:56] Winter House.

Speaker 1:
[04:57] Again, I have to, like, I got to stop somewhere.

Speaker 2:
[05:00] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[05:01] And Winter House was my dead, my dead out. I had a hard out at Winter House.

Speaker 4:
[05:09] Winter House was my final straw.

Speaker 2:
[05:13] I didn't mind going back six seasons to see things. But then I was like, now I don't even know what network Winter House is on.

Speaker 1:
[05:20] Even if I can't sleep, it's not how I'm not. No. Winter House is it for me?

Speaker 2:
[05:30] Okay, so we start out the episode, Ciara is crying, telling Amanda that she wishes West would have seen her.

Speaker 1:
[05:41] Seen.

Speaker 2:
[05:41] Seen.

Speaker 1:
[05:43] See, we are seasoned women.

Speaker 2:
[05:46] We are seasoned women. So I hope everyone else is noticing all the time that she says seen and other people say seen. And then, Ciara dives under Amanda's lap. Amanda tells Ciara that she sees her. And then, but then why was Amanda wiggling her butt in the mirror all around?

Speaker 1:
[06:07] Because she didn't really give a shit that her friend just basically cried on her lap.

Speaker 2:
[06:14] Yeah, you don't do that. Like, you don't take somebody from the fetal position, crying, you know, twerking, to twerking your butt. I've noticed she's been twerking her butt a lot this season. She's like a dog that's excited.

Speaker 1:
[06:29] Well, there's a good reason for it. You know, when that person comes home and they got a little pep in their step and they're a little more giddy and they're walking around the house twerking or they're putting on a little extra cologne and giggling for no reason.

Speaker 2:
[06:49] Or they're just humming.

Speaker 1:
[06:51] Or humming or talking in their sleep. Actually, Crystal Gale wrote a song about that.

Speaker 2:
[06:56] She did?

Speaker 1:
[06:57] Yes, she did.

Speaker 2:
[06:59] Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:
[07:00] Well, Dreamers Never Lie, Talking In Your Sleep. So yes, I've experienced all of those, these things. The twerking to me was I'm getting bones and I'm getting some attention.

Speaker 2:
[07:13] I am the lead girl in this house now.

Speaker 1:
[07:17] I'm the lead girl. I'm getting some attention. I'm not going to bed at 8 o'clock like I was last season.

Speaker 2:
[07:26] I'm doing it. I'm doing all the things.

Speaker 1:
[07:27] I mean, she's not like brushing her hair differently or anything or.

Speaker 4:
[07:32] I know, she's definitely not giving herself a blowout.

Speaker 1:
[07:36] She's giving West a blowout. No, but like, come on, that was bad taste. You walk, you know, your friends, like when I feel for someone, it goes to show you. And I will, I've had conversations with Ciara. And I will say the least of what we could say about this is the friendship really wasn't reciprocated because when Ciara cries for you, she's actually really crying.

Speaker 2:
[08:08] Yeah, she's crying for you.

Speaker 1:
[08:10] But it wasn't. But this was like, OK, poo, poo, poo. I'm poo, pooing you. You're good.

Speaker 2:
[08:17] Like, oh, it's OK. But also maybe somebody that it's also had a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[08:23] It's OK. And then let's say she's shaking her ass fucking. Oh, God, I don't even match. Don't post that.

Speaker 4:
[08:33] Oh, my gosh. The purple and the black and the green.

Speaker 3:
[08:36] I changed my shirt for you.

Speaker 1:
[08:38] I'm a slob. I'm disgusting. And I'm already seeing what you're wearing now because I put this shirt on for you because the other one, I had mayonnaise on it because I can't stop eating. Did you see the pictures of me from last night? I look like I swallowed my old self. I'm like twice the size as I used to. I can't stop eating. I don't know. I'm I'm actually talking to someone after we get off the phone. I mean, after we get I have I have an appointment with someone. I paid like a lot of money to talk to them to see what's wrong with me. I hope it helps. I can't do it anymore.

Speaker 3:
[09:12] I'm going to lose my my my boyfriend.

Speaker 1:
[09:15] I'm going to go out with West.

Speaker 2:
[09:17] Oh, my God. Well, West, who else is he going to go out with? Because apparently he's gone out with a lot of people. But anyways, before we get back, I want to know what's the draw.

Speaker 1:
[09:27] I mean, is a nice kid and all. But what is it?

Speaker 2:
[09:30] I want to know if you had to pick somebody to have sex with on that cast, what would it be?

Speaker 1:
[09:41] I always like a wounded bird. I think it would be Kyle by now, but no.

Speaker 2:
[09:45] No.

Speaker 1:
[09:45] I mean, just saying have sex, right?

Speaker 2:
[09:47] Yeah, just have sex. You don't have to marry them.

Speaker 1:
[09:55] I'd have to watch a few old episodes to maybe find somebody, because right now, that's a rough. What about you?

Speaker 2:
[10:01] Well, he went away for a while, because when he was pretending to like Ciara and pretending he was trying to hook up with her, he gave me the egg, because I thought he was doing it on purpose to try to get like a rise out of West. But I'd say Jesse Solomon makes me laugh almost every episode.

Speaker 1:
[10:20] I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't. I'm sorry. I can't.

Speaker 2:
[10:27] I can't do the singing, even though that's the only thing that's on his profile.

Speaker 1:
[10:32] I would sleep with Amanda before I would sleep with the guy in that house.

Speaker 3:
[10:37] I can't.

Speaker 1:
[10:38] I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 2:
[10:47] Then after KJ said he hasn't liked anyone as much as Dara in a long time, he has his wall up because of past relationships though.

Speaker 1:
[10:56] Well, who doesn't?

Speaker 2:
[10:57] And also, why are all these guys in the house so scared to commit, even though they have a good thing going? Like, do you think it's because they just have so many options?

Speaker 1:
[11:05] Well, they're not the only ones that are scared to commit these days. Look at Southern Charm.

Speaker 2:
[11:11] Right.

Speaker 1:
[11:12] I mean, he got rid of the really good girl. Like, even his friends were saying, like, what are you doing? Right?

Speaker 2:
[11:17] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:18] And half the time, they don't even want to admit they have feelings for the girl.

Speaker 2:
[11:23] True. But KJ is different in this way, that he's-

Speaker 1:
[11:27] I feel like KJ is different.

Speaker 2:
[11:29] Yeah. He's like, I really like her. But I feel like he's been like that since day one. I've never felt that way before.

Speaker 1:
[11:37] Those are really strong words. But she was sitting there and after she told those girls, Ciara and Mia, they were in the car, Ciara and Mia, and she's like, he asked me to be his girlfriend this week. And then they go and try and talk him out of it. I would have been like, hey, what the hell? Hey, you guys, shut your fucking mouth.

Speaker 4:
[11:59] Yeah, no, I just told you, you don't know me.

Speaker 2:
[12:01] I would do you.

Speaker 1:
[12:02] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[12:02] And told you this. I mean, it's a whole thing. But before we even get back to Summer House, we have to be in New York for a little bit. Well, first, West apologizes to Ciara for being all over the place with that girl and hopes it doesn't ruin all the progress they made. I'm sorry. How does he think it's not going to ruin any progress?

Speaker 1:
[12:29] Well, let me just start by saying, I'm not blaming the girl, but I'm going to blame this. That girl basically, now, everyone in the world knows Ciara and West's past, present, and the feelings that go back and forth. Whoever that girl is, and I don't know her, basically sat on Ciara's fucking lap to make out with him. Yeah, she was spiteful.

Speaker 2:
[12:57] I thought so too.

Speaker 1:
[12:58] That was very, that was old school Jersey Shore bitch.

Speaker 2:
[13:02] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[13:03] That was like 1988 Stake Valley High School. Now, me and you are going to get in a fistfight, even if I haven't touched this guy in two years.

Speaker 2:
[13:10] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[13:10] Because it's a whole point.

Speaker 2:
[13:12] Like you put your back to me, sat on his lap, kind of like had your drink and the little holder drinking, leaning forward, making out with him. You could tell he was blacked out. You could tell by this point he was no longer registering.

Speaker 1:
[13:32] He should have. Well, if he's not registering, how can you blame him? You blame him for getting to that point.

Speaker 2:
[13:40] You blame him for getting to that point.

Speaker 1:
[13:42] But that girl was not like that. I think-

Speaker 2:
[13:44] No, you could tell. But even later on, she kept when they switched to the other couch and all that stuff, she kept following him around. I think she wanted to go with where they were going for the night.

Speaker 1:
[13:56] Yes. 1988, Pasek Valley High School. If I didn't do something about it, one of my friends would have grabbed her off his lap and beat the shit out of her, just so you know.

Speaker 2:
[14:09] Yeah. I think in that moment, somebody could have saved West.

Speaker 1:
[14:14] And Ciara.

Speaker 2:
[14:15] And Ciara. Both could have been saved. Someone could have just pulled that girl off and been like, not right here, bitch. Not right here. Not right now.

Speaker 1:
[14:23] Not right here. Not right now. Get the fuck up. Because that's what girlfriends do where I come from. And I feel like it was, not only was it wrong on West's part, but here we're saying like, does he even know what's going on at this point? But not only was it that, but like I said, again, it was like a pissing, like I'm going to piss on him because I'm going to claim him as my property kind of thing. Like a dog pees on a spot.

Speaker 3:
[14:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[14:52] But can you explain why was Amanda on that FaceTime giggling like a school girl? What is wrong with these two?

Speaker 1:
[14:58] If things were happening at that time, you know what I loved?

Speaker 2:
[15:02] What?

Speaker 1:
[15:02] West didn't know Amanda was on that FaceTime.

Speaker 2:
[15:04] Yeah, he had no idea. It could have been anyone.

Speaker 1:
[15:06] He thought it was a guy.

Speaker 2:
[15:08] Yeah. He says whoever it is, tell him I said, what's up?

Speaker 1:
[15:14] So unless she text him, because they were communicating constantly by now, by the way.

Speaker 2:
[15:22] You think they're in constant communication. Do you think that's why she doesn't end up coming?

Speaker 1:
[15:27] I do. I think he's in cahoots. And I think there's one of two, one of two things happened in that she told him, I'm going to be facetiming her. Because you know, when you're going to facetime someone on camera, you got to call and say, facetime him. He said, she said to him, go apologize. I'll be on facetime. And then he said, okay, oh, whoever it is, tell them I said hello. Yeah. I'm thinking, I'm sorry. I'm going towards that.

Speaker 2:
[16:01] You have to lean. It just, it's too predictable. What's happening. It's too much. It's too on the nose production.

Speaker 1:
[16:10] You could see text messages. Pull the tapes.

Speaker 2:
[16:14] Yeah, pull it. We want to see the text messages from these dates.

Speaker 1:
[16:18] We want to know when this really back to that room and see if he was texting on his phone before he got in there.

Speaker 2:
[16:26] Yeah, before he went and checked in her room to see if she was there.

Speaker 1:
[16:29] I could be wrong.

Speaker 2:
[16:30] We could be wrong. But who knows, we take a small little break in the West of it all because Mia goes to the same medium that Ciara went to. However, this medium was also on the Valley Persian style. I just wanted to make sure that you just walk back.

Speaker 1:
[16:45] She gets around this one, huh?

Speaker 2:
[16:47] Yeah, she's everywhere. But I mean, she had some really, like I would have been emotional listening to that too. She talks, she knows about Mia's dreams and relays messages from Mia's mom and grandma. And do you believe in mediums?

Speaker 1:
[17:05] I want to, but so it's a very big conflict in my religion, being Catholic. I saw on Instagram this priest that performs exorcisms and all this stuff. They're deadly against this. And he goes, yeah, there's someone talking to them. And there's good and bad in every room. I don't want to say the words, right? Because I get freaked out. So there's good and bad in every room. And those good and bad things in every room, both hear your conversation. So how do you know that the thing coming through to them is the good one or the bad one?

Speaker 2:
[17:44] Right.

Speaker 1:
[17:45] So, you know, I've been to mediums that are absolute not great. And I think some that are really good.

Speaker 2:
[17:54] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[17:55] So it's, you know, when you're looking for closure and you're looking for an answer, I'm not against it. I'd be a hypocrite to say I was because I've used them before.

Speaker 2:
[18:05] I mean, you guys for sure had that terrible one on Jersey that just recited everything Janayden had already told her.

Speaker 1:
[18:11] Oh, yeah, she was a, she did come clean in the end though, thank God. We had a very good one who spoke to my dog. You know, that's all it took. The only time you ever saw me cry on camera, my dog came through with my grandparents. And it's funny that you're saying this because I spoke to her after that scene. And it was right before I met Paul, and I just found all the papers the other day. I had packed a box when I left that townhouse, and everything came true that she said. Gina, the psychic medium. Yeah. Gina on there, she said everything. She said I'd be traveling to Ireland. I see your grandmother doing the Irish jig. I'm like, oh, my grandmother was Irish. She's like, she's happy about something. She's doing like the Irish jig. I met Paul shortly after that.

Speaker 2:
[19:11] So she knew.

Speaker 1:
[19:12] But there was more stuff that I had written down that she really came through. So do I believe in mediums? Yes and no.

Speaker 2:
[19:20] But it depends. Yeah, that definitely depends on the medium and the situation.

Speaker 1:
[19:24] But am I happy she had closure? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[19:27] Yeah, it gave her closure. And I think it gave her whatever she's looking for in her current relationship, which we got to talk about because I'm a little concerned about that one. Mia's. Like, do you see that relationship going the distance?

Speaker 1:
[19:45] Well, you know, I don't see her that happy with him. Yeah, like, I know she's looking for closure with her mom. And I mean, is she complaining that he works all the time?

Speaker 2:
[19:56] Yeah, like when he's like, I want to throw the pigskin and I want to do that.

Speaker 1:
[20:00] Maybe he's just not like a personality for TV, right? Doesn't make him a bad guy. But what I see is, is he giving her what she needs because she seems like she's asking her mom, am I doing the right thing? More than just with her job. Like am I with the right guy? If I break up with him, am I going to miss that chance to have a baby?

Speaker 2:
[20:22] Have a baby. What do I do? Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:25] If he was being the man in her life, then she wouldn't be questioning these things if he was fulfilling everything.

Speaker 2:
[20:34] If she felt like he was going to be there for her throughout all these things.

Speaker 1:
[20:38] Yeah. Like I said, I know a lot of guys who act like they're in Italian, we say men's a mort, half dead, but they're still good guys.

Speaker 2:
[20:45] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:46] It doesn't mean he's a bad guy, but I don't know that she's that happy with him.

Speaker 2:
[20:51] Yeah. That's kind of how I feel too.

Speaker 1:
[20:52] She seems close with her brother, which I love.

Speaker 2:
[20:54] I know. I loved her brother. I thought her brother was good TV.

Speaker 1:
[20:57] He was good TV. I like it. He goes, can I have a drink now? He's like, I didn't sign up for this. This wasn't on my bingo card today.

Speaker 2:
[21:05] First I'm told that I should date my sister.

Speaker 1:
[21:12] That poor guy just wanted to go home.

Speaker 2:
[21:14] Yeah, that poor guy just wanted to go home. Okay. Then at the dog adoption, Amanda confronts West, also a dog, about how he treated Ciara and tells him to treat her better.

Speaker 1:
[21:27] Is this all a front? Because if we find out that they were together during this time, it's going to be worse than it already is.

Speaker 2:
[21:38] I mean, I'm wondering as I'm watching this, like West, how are you treating Amanda now?

Speaker 1:
[21:45] Good question.

Speaker 2:
[21:47] I can't help it. It's like at this point, if anybody knows how to adopt a dog, it is Amanda because she was Kyle.

Speaker 4:
[21:59] Kyle's like, West.

Speaker 1:
[22:00] Kyle goes, we're not bringing home another rescue. You thought you weren't.

Speaker 3:
[22:05] You thought maybe you weren't. But we know somebody else.

Speaker 4:
[22:10] I know one mullet wearing dog that I'm going to bring home soon. I don't know if. I don't know if it's going to be February at the beginning or February at the end. This site kicks like I see a mullet in February.

Speaker 2:
[22:32] They're like, we don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4:
[22:38] Yeah, so that happens.

Speaker 2:
[22:40] But we kind of see there. At that point, they have a connection. That's a little bit like the fact that Kyle even brings out the drink to West and West just like it's like second nature. Oh, thanks.

Speaker 1:
[22:54] You know, I'll take a Guinness. Yeah, I'll take a Guinness and my wife and a side of my wife and a chaser of Amanda.

Speaker 2:
[23:05] Yeah. And so, you know, this this scene is where I kind of start to think like, OK, this is making me a little bit uncomfortable because Amanda was, you know, just jumping up and down pretty much with Ciara. And now here she is trying to tell West what to say and what to do.

Speaker 1:
[23:25] That's why I go back to the scene where he walks in the room and tries to, like, talk to her and be like, I'm really sorry. I wish that. And she just happens to be on the phone when he does that.

Speaker 2:
[23:37] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[23:39] Like, that's why, like, she's I feel like I'm so stupid. It's not like I've lived 25 lives and been around the block more than once. I feel like she's kind of orchestrating like this is almost like she's coming out of her shell, but she almost is having fun with what's going on. I could be so wrong.

Speaker 2:
[24:00] I could be so wrong too, but I felt like she was having fun the week before. Remember when the girl was there and she went and skipping around dancing and like, don't watch my ass as I walk away. Yeah, I don't know. I just find those things odd to do too. And we also have to discuss something because I got yelled at a little bit on the gram. Like people are like, why do you think West owes anything to Ciara? They haven't been together for so long.

Speaker 1:
[24:31] He doesn't actually. Technically, he doesn't. But as a man who was as close to her as he was, for someone who supposedly cares and loves for her, he knows how this woman feels about him. And just like you wouldn't want to hurt someone, you'd want to be considerate of their feelings. That's a responsibility to someone that you care about, whether you're romantically involved with them or not.

Speaker 2:
[24:56] Yeah, that's true. That's true because then we get to the following weekend where they are at the Summer House.

Speaker 1:
[25:03] But is Jesse involved here anywhere?

Speaker 2:
[25:05] Oh yeah, like how? Jesse's disappeared. Jesse's just there for comic relief sometimes.

Speaker 1:
[25:11] Yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 2:
[25:12] He, like, he's there for, like, Wes hugs, like, you're going to be okay, buddy. That's it.

Speaker 1:
[25:18] In the morning, the morning hug. It's always in the morning.

Speaker 2:
[25:21] Yeah, but nowhere else have we seen him. Why wasn't he at the dog rescue?

Speaker 1:
[25:27] I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[25:28] Why wasn't he in that conversation? Why weren't both best friends weighing in?

Speaker 1:
[25:33] Why is Amanda orchestrating what Wes should do?

Speaker 2:
[25:36] That's what I mean. Like, where, like, where's Jesse? Where's, I mean, where's Carl even?

Speaker 1:
[25:44] Why isn't Kyle and Amanda speaking to him as a couple? Well, I could, I could talk, I could give myself that answer and say, who's Kyle to tell anybody what to do in a relationship, right?

Speaker 2:
[25:58] Right. But I think at this point, who's Amanda at this point of the week, Kyle and Amanda are already not speaking. Because remember, Amanda has not come to the Hamptons this weekend.

Speaker 1:
[26:15] No. Right.

Speaker 2:
[26:16] She says it's too much for her. But we don't get a true explanation. And we don't really see.

Speaker 1:
[26:21] She didn't say it was a mental health weekend, like Paige used to say when she was on her way out.

Speaker 2:
[26:26] Yeah. Like that's I think it's one thing to say. If she would have said, like, I just, you know, I'm having a mental health weekend. But all she said was, I just can't do it. I can't do it right now.

Speaker 1:
[26:37] What is it I can't do? Can't do what? Can't go there and eat McDonald's for breakfast and bagels. And why is everyone so skinny with the way they eat? I want to know now.

Speaker 2:
[26:46] I want to understand now, too. And they're not just eating like the McDonald's. They're having the pancakes, too.

Speaker 1:
[26:53] She said she wasn't her joyful bubbly self. What was she doing? Moving out?

Speaker 2:
[26:56] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[26:57] I mean, was she apartment hunting? Because she seemed very bubbly the week after when she was twerking.

Speaker 2:
[27:14] We also have another conspiracy.

Speaker 1:
[27:16] Please give it to me, because I don't want to hear mine. I sound like an asshole if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2:
[27:20] Well, listen, we're not even getting to the main one yet. This is just leading up to it.

Speaker 4:
[27:25] You will think that-

Speaker 1:
[27:26] I'll stand on that hill and die with this main one.

Speaker 2:
[27:29] Yeah, like this main one is just what, we both know what it is, and so we're right. I mean, it's impossible to be wrong at this point.

Speaker 1:
[27:37] I watched this at one o'clock in the morning last night.

Speaker 2:
[27:39] See, it didn't even take you an effort to do it.

Speaker 1:
[27:42] I wanted to call you.

Speaker 2:
[27:44] I wish you would have. It would have been, hello.

Speaker 4:
[27:48] For, hey, did you watch Summer House?

Speaker 1:
[27:51] We're like crackheads.

Speaker 3:
[27:52] Did you see this one?

Speaker 4:
[27:55] Did you hear how many times I said this word?

Speaker 1:
[27:58] I don't know how high this one was. Where did we get this crack from?

Speaker 4:
[28:05] But my question is-

Speaker 1:
[28:06] Summer House has the best heroin.

Speaker 3:
[28:08] Sorry. Summer House has the best heroin.

Speaker 1:
[28:13] Such losers.

Speaker 3:
[28:14] Is this what it's come to, Teddi?

Speaker 4:
[28:15] We're grown ass women.

Speaker 3:
[28:17] Is this what it's come to?

Speaker 1:
[28:19] I am so upset with myself.

Speaker 2:
[28:21] We're giggling like school kids trying to get to the bottom of like whatever. But do we think that the whole Jesse and Ciara thing, do we think that was all just a ploy? Do you think Jesse was trying to help out West? And Amanda? No, you think that's showing me that?

Speaker 1:
[28:41] No, because that happened last year.

Speaker 2:
[28:42] Like I was, I remember this season.

Speaker 1:
[28:46] Yes. But I'm saying last year, it started last year. Like I'm actively was mad about it when they were like, Jesse, play with her toes. I'm like, you know what, Ciara, you don't have friends on that show.

Speaker 2:
[29:00] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:00] You know what, Ciara, anybody that was pushing you to make out with Jesse or sit next to him, knowing that he was kind of in dog mode last year, like, no, I would say get away from my friend and get your feet and it would be like, Ciara, put your feet down. Like, not because I'm older, because that's the kind of friends that we were when we were younger.

Speaker 2:
[29:21] Yeah, that's just how it was. But, you know, they're at the house, they have the party night. It's way outnumbered. There's a million guys, there's no girls. The only girls we've got, thank goodness, Ciara, Mia, and Dara know who I could do without. Who? I could do without even Sabrina on a telephone call.

Speaker 1:
[29:45] Really?

Speaker 2:
[29:46] How do you feel about you like hearing Ben be like, oh booby dooby doo.

Speaker 1:
[29:51] I do. After he brings after he gives Amanda her coffee in the morning, and then he makes the call. Booby dooby doo mean shit. Doesn't mean shit.

Speaker 2:
[30:06] What is Amanda wear?

Speaker 1:
[30:08] He wants to just be in love.

Speaker 2:
[30:12] He just wants to be, he knows. Now, I think he knows he didn't have a chance with Amanda because of West. Ben's had to get over that.

Speaker 1:
[30:24] Did he really have a chance with Amanda?

Speaker 2:
[30:26] Like, Ben wanted to, it was common knowledge.

Speaker 1:
[30:31] She didn't seem very, she, she just liked saying he liked me.

Speaker 2:
[30:35] She also said he tried to fuck me.

Speaker 1:
[30:38] And why group chat? Find the group chat. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[30:41] Like send us the group chat.

Speaker 1:
[30:43] First of all, I don't repeat things like that.

Speaker 2:
[30:47] Like, and on what group chat?

Speaker 1:
[30:50] His friends, one of his friends, he's got a rat on his ship because one of his friends were like saying it. Like who, what kind of people are these people?

Speaker 2:
[31:00] And it's a group chat.

Speaker 1:
[31:02] You're going to leak it. It's a group, something like that, she said. Here's the thing. Is she bragging? Say like he was into me. I don't talk like I don't talk like that. I'm just stupid. I don't like to tell somebody else that I'm with that some other guy likes me because I don't do that kind of thing. Because I don't want to get somebody beat up.

Speaker 2:
[31:22] You don't want to start a fight.

Speaker 1:
[31:23] I don't want to start a fight. But in her case, Kyle was apologizing to Ben.

Speaker 4:
[31:28] For what?

Speaker 3:
[31:29] I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[31:31] He was apologizing.

Speaker 2:
[31:33] I feel like you've seen the worst side of me.

Speaker 3:
[31:38] I was like, oh, goodness.

Speaker 1:
[31:40] He's like, I guess he really didn't want to lose the chances of possibly Ben taking her off his hands. He didn't know she was already 400 foot out the door.

Speaker 2:
[31:48] He didn't realize that she'd already rented her new place while we're all here.

Speaker 1:
[31:55] Imagine if we were right about everything.

Speaker 2:
[31:59] Oh my God. Imagine if we were right. One, we'd never stop bragging about it.

Speaker 1:
[32:02] Is it public? But two, I'd be like, I'm going to be a medium. I should be on the next show.

Speaker 2:
[32:09] They need to have us as the narrators on the next.

Speaker 1:
[32:12] I'll be the narrator. I'll be the medium. I'm going to tell them how everything ends. I'll tell them what's going to start before it starts.

Speaker 2:
[32:22] I'm going to actually, I'm going to start deciding who the cast is, who doesn't come in, who doesn't come out. But either way, before, after this little Amanda conversation, Ciara says to West, let's have a talk tomorrow over coffee. West kind of...

Speaker 1:
[32:42] Yeah, because she didn't know that the apology when he walked in the room was told by, orchestrated by the person she was on the phone with.

Speaker 3:
[32:49] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:52] And she had known that, it may have been a different conversation.

Speaker 2:
[32:55] Do you think she realized that once it happened, okay, because they go on their, you know, their boat ride, their walk. Ciara mentions how West downplayed their relationship in the press.

Speaker 1:
[33:06] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[33:07] Um, and then West says, I see you, I see you.

Speaker 1:
[33:15] Let's say it together.

Speaker 2:
[33:16] I see you.

Speaker 1:
[33:19] You're seen.

Speaker 4:
[33:21] You are seen.

Speaker 1:
[33:23] Okay. So maybe they were communicating. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[33:28] Do you think Amanda was telling West, this is what you need to say to Ciara, because that is what she said to me. She wants to feel seen even though she didn't have that conversation.

Speaker 1:
[33:41] Didn't happen on camera.

Speaker 2:
[33:42] No, it didn't.

Speaker 1:
[33:43] So did it happen when she was telling him to go in the room and apologize? Oh, no, because that happened after. Sorry.

Speaker 2:
[33:48] Yeah, I think it could have happened anytime. Because there's a member, their best friends. And then remember also best friends. Well, this supposedly is best friends.

Speaker 1:
[33:59] I never knew they were best. Wait, can you tell me, huh? Have they been best friends for a long time? Amanda and West, I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[34:07] No, best friends. I meant no.

Speaker 1:
[34:09] Oh, you mean Ciara and Amanda.

Speaker 2:
[34:13] But no, but even when Kyle goes. Sierra, you didn't talk to her and find out that she's not coming. Like, Sierra's not even bothering calling her best friend to tell her, I'm leaving you high and dry with all the guys this weekend. That's a little suspect. Like, she's not it's not like Amanda misses multiple weekends. Amanda's been there every single time, even if she was sleeping, even if she slept the entire time and was having some emotional issues, she was there.

Speaker 3:
[34:49] Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:
[34:52] But then West says, This part was like hard to watch, though. It's really hard to watch because you can see when they're both sitting there. And of course, Ciara couldn't look more beautiful. She's like in this white, like ridiculous, every day, it's like folded over. She's like showing the perfect amount of under boob. And West looks like I ran him over with a pickup truck.

Speaker 1:
[35:16] Do you want me to tell you what I see? I feel like West isn't emotionally attached to these women. I don't think that West, I think West detaches himself to the situation.

Speaker 2:
[35:37] Right.

Speaker 1:
[35:37] And I feel that if West wasn't on the show and didn't show up, he would be the guy who zips up his pants and boasts to you and doesn't talk to you again.

Speaker 2:
[35:49] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[35:49] That's just how I like. I have spoke to him. He's charismatic. He's charming. There's a new word for this. It's something. It's an something introvert.

Speaker 2:
[36:01] It's so I've heard of this word, but it's not the one I'm thinking of. A crumber, there are something crumber. Like they leave you breadcrumbs, a bread crumber.

Speaker 1:
[36:14] I've never heard that, but I like that, an oetrovert.

Speaker 2:
[36:17] An oetrovert is someone who may appear extroverted, meaning they gain energy from external sources and relationships and often do not seem to need as much alone time, but who actually have a more introverted nervous system. I think I could be one.

Speaker 1:
[36:35] I think I can also, but maybe that doesn't, isn't him. I mean, I just feel like he is able to detach himself from the situations and then the person that he's with, because he's so charismatic and he's so charming, gets these feelings for him. He doesn't get them back and he gets himself in trouble.

Speaker 2:
[37:00] Yeah. But did you notice the whole time he was talking to her, he was looking forward? He never looked over at her. Like didn't make eye contact.

Speaker 1:
[37:10] It was hard for him. He didn't want to have the conversation. If he could run from it, he would. And you know what? After watching him and Amanda at the baseball game, I felt the same vibe that he was giving her there as he was giving Ciara here. Because you know why? I've been that person on both ends. That's why I'm recognizing it. And I could be wrong.

Speaker 2:
[37:32] No, I think you're right. I think you're right. Because like West says his natural instinct was to resent Ciara because of all the hate they got online. Her face didn't even change when he said that.

Speaker 1:
[37:47] Because she feels for him, because she felt because guilt is a form of control. He was making her feel guilty so that he can control her like being so mad at him. Like, oh, you know, feel guilty for me. That way you can't be mad at me if you feel guilty for me. He's smart, this motherfucker.

Speaker 2:
[38:09] He's smart. He knows what he's doing. And then he says, you know, I'll take it from here. All I know is it hurts me not to be a part of your life in some way, but you make the decision now on what you want to be. And then that's when she says, can we just be best friends again? And they cry and hold each other.

Speaker 1:
[38:30] Could he have sat down and hugged her? I was getting a back and neck ache when he was leant over.

Speaker 2:
[38:35] Also, I thought I could see his butt crack.

Speaker 1:
[38:39] And God, you are fucking up. He had his skin marks in his. Why are we laughing at this? God, forgive me. I'm going to get over for laughing at this.

Speaker 2:
[38:55] But you know, he was sweating during that and he was leaned all his sweat on her white outfit. Even there was a moment, did you see when she got done? She had to like pull her hair out and like wipe it down.

Speaker 3:
[39:06] It's still beautiful.

Speaker 1:
[39:08] People usually look ugly when they cry. She even looks prettier when she cries.

Speaker 2:
[39:14] She doesn't need any makeup. She looks stunning.

Speaker 1:
[39:17] I couldn't take it. I can't take it. She like I don't care about being younger again. I would never want to go through any of these disgusting emotions everyone's going through and all these problems because you and I would walk away from this without a second look by now. We would have been like this is going on two years now and we would have been so over it in three minutes.

Speaker 2:
[39:34] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:35] But to look like her, what I wouldn't give.

Speaker 2:
[39:41] I know such a gift.

Speaker 1:
[39:42] I wouldn't be sitting there. But what good is it when you're sitting there crying over West?

Speaker 2:
[39:47] I know that's a waste. It's wasted.

Speaker 1:
[39:50] I understand you love him as a friend. I'll say a million times.

Speaker 2:
[39:53] But do you think that's really all it is? Do you think she only loves him as a friend? No, I think that. I think when he said to her, when you talked about your house in North Carolina, I wanted to be there for you. I wanted to be there. Or when I brought you to my home, I didn't realize the effect that was going to have on you. Those words were to pull at her heartstrings. That was to pull at her love strings.

Speaker 1:
[40:17] Guys, dude, my guy, West, cut the fucking girl loose. Don't say, even if you feel it, keep it in and don't say it to her. Don't drag her in. Like I've had to be cold to people for reasons like, because I knew they'd like me and I would say anything I could to get them not to like me. When I was younger, you know?

Speaker 3:
[40:43] No one's, I'm not, I don't have to do that these days.

Speaker 1:
[40:48] Trust me. From what I remember, from what I can recall, there's been many times where I could have sat there and made someone still want me and still love me and somebody I was never going to like in that way. I would know better than to say those things.

Speaker 2:
[41:03] But he said them and then he was emotional about it. And then he's like, I can't live with this awkwardness. And then you see it's really all about him. He doesn't want to feel uncomfortable. But my next question is, how long will it be until West makes another mistake?

Speaker 1:
[41:21] Well, how could he make a mistake when he has no commitments here? There's no emotional, there's no romantic commitment here. So how can he go wrong with her other than banging her best friend or having some drunk girl come and push her elbow or in the face to make out with him? Like, honestly, how could he possibly do anything wrong?

Speaker 2:
[41:50] Do you think there's a world in which she could have said to him, Hey, West, I obviously miss you. I obviously miss you, but I can't do it this way.

Speaker 1:
[42:06] And I can't be your friend.

Speaker 2:
[42:08] I can't be your friend because I clearly still have deeper, like, or like, I just can't do it. I just like it's not because I'm mad at you. It's because it brings in feelings for me.

Speaker 1:
[42:23] Like when you're over someone, you wouldn't care.

Speaker 2:
[42:27] Yeah, you could do it.

Speaker 1:
[42:27] They dated your mother, much less your best friend. Her problems with Amanda, right? But her problems also with West because she still cares for him in that way.

Speaker 2:
[42:37] I know.

Speaker 1:
[42:38] It's not like I'm going to get upset if Frank Catania gets married like he did. I was happy for him. As a matter of fact, I said to him, if you don't marry that girl quick, you're like when you're over someone, you can be their friend. Until Paul, I was friends with every ex-boyfriend I ever had.

Speaker 2:
[42:56] Yeah. You can be friends and you can say it. But I just felt the way he drew her back in in that moment.

Speaker 3:
[43:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[43:04] I feel like before the season ends, because we still have a good amount of episodes left.

Speaker 3:
[43:08] Thank God.

Speaker 1:
[43:09] What would you do, Teddi, for entertainment?

Speaker 2:
[43:11] Obviously, who knows? I couldn't even be bothered to put makeup on my face today. Because I was like, I got to put a hat on, I got to sit down, I got to prep.

Speaker 1:
[43:22] There's more things more important than putting on makeup. And you're not hard to look at, you're beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[43:28] Yeah. Wow. Remember the scene with Spin the Bottle when he pulled his chair closer and was rubbing her leg with his foot?

Speaker 1:
[43:37] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[43:38] He's been trying to pull her back in the whole time. But then in that same token, he also sat on Amanda's back. And they had also said when he likes somebody, he sits on their back.

Speaker 1:
[43:47] Well, was Ciara not there when he sat on Amanda? Yeah, no. So here's the thing. There's also that person who collects people that are into them, even though he doesn't want them, but they don't want to miss out on, I'm not a fucking therapist, who am I to talk like this? But it's because I was all of these people. Because you don't want to lose that person that's so into you because it feeds your ego.

Speaker 2:
[44:17] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:18] So you keep them.

Speaker 2:
[44:20] What about when he laughs and goes, and I knew you were never going to make out with Jesse?

Speaker 1:
[44:25] She laughed.

Speaker 2:
[44:26] Why didn't you stop it? And he had nothing to say for it.

Speaker 1:
[44:30] He didn't stop it because he didn't care. He didn't care. And neither did her friends when they told Jesse to suck on her toes.

Speaker 3:
[44:41] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:43] Or when Jesse was trying to hump her when she was on the raft in the pool.

Speaker 2:
[44:47] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[44:49] I forgot about that.

Speaker 1:
[44:50] When he was laying on top of her. Last year made me livid with the way I felt Ciara people were treating Ciara.

Speaker 2:
[44:59] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:59] I wanted to pull her aside and say, you know what? Take a break from this house right now.

Speaker 2:
[45:13] The last final thing that I just need to say it again, because I'm obsessing, is why, West, why right now, did you feel the need to, this was your one opportunity to say to Ciara, I feel like you still have those kind of feelings for me, and I'm not changing.

Speaker 1:
[45:34] I don't feel that way. He shouldn't have to say that. Sorry. Don't expect somebody who hasn't been mentally doing the right thing by you, to mentally do the right thing. Don't expect that, because he's clearly not able to do that.

Speaker 2:
[45:54] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:54] But it's a high price he's paying for keeping for keeping somebody dangling. Yeah, because now he's like, I'm not keeping her dangling. You know, it's been two years now that, you know, we've been, well, then keep your hands off her leg during spin the bottle. Stop hanging on her. Don't go into her room and apologize and say you should talk because your girlfriend told you to.

Speaker 2:
[46:18] Don't make her homemade nachos.

Speaker 1:
[46:20] Don't make her homemade nachos. But listen, he's not bringing her coffee in the morning like Ben over here.

Speaker 2:
[46:26] No, he isn't because he's still so hung over.

Speaker 1:
[46:32] What a charmer.

Speaker 2:
[46:36] I have yet to see that man take a shower. I think he just jumps in the pool.

Speaker 1:
[46:40] It's not like he's taking coffee to her every morning. That must be a thing because Brian on Rory is stopping on the way to the gym to bring the mistress coffee.

Speaker 2:
[46:51] I mean, I'm not the only person that's bringing me coffee.

Speaker 1:
[46:58] I mean, at least you have somebody. Nobody's fucking bringing me anything but a headache. So does Paul love me on the one or two days out of the month? He brings my coffee to me. Does that mean he loves me?

Speaker 4:
[47:14] Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 2:
[47:15] Those are the only days.

Speaker 1:
[47:17] I should check his route on his phone.

Speaker 4:
[47:20] You know what?

Speaker 1:
[47:20] You need to see if he's bringing somebody coffee in the morning.

Speaker 2:
[47:23] You need to check his Starbucks app and see how often he's ordering Starbucks and how many times there's two cups.

Speaker 1:
[47:30] We have coffee imported from Ireland called Frank and Honest Coffee, and we're out of it.

Speaker 2:
[47:35] Oh, so you have coffee at home?

Speaker 1:
[47:37] We have coffee. We have a Mealy coffee maker built into the wall that crushes the grounds every time I need coffee. You couldn't catch me dead in Starbucks. Maybe once a month, I'll get a passion tea.

Speaker 2:
[47:50] Okay. All right. So, I mean, your coffee situation is a little bit different than, you know, than all of ours because we have to go out and get it.

Speaker 1:
[47:58] If I find out Paul's bringing McDonald's, because you could see me there three times a week. I had to fight the food noise on the way back from getting my nails done.

Speaker 4:
[48:12] What do you want to get?

Speaker 1:
[48:14] If I, oh, I would get like a number one is a Big Mac meal or a number seven is two cheeseburgers, diet coke and fries. Listen, if I found out Paul ever brought somebody, they're dead. Dead.

Speaker 2:
[48:27] Brought him, I mean, so what's going to happen? Are we going to finish off the season with him and Ciara making out? Or or is it going to start to transition to Amanda?

Speaker 1:
[48:42] I think there's still room for Ciara and West.

Speaker 2:
[48:46] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[48:47] Here. I think that Ciara needs closure because sometimes you romanticize something in your mind. I think Ciara needs to have that one more time. That's why I like I wouldn't be mad at it. If that happened.

Speaker 2:
[49:02] If they had sex one more time or if they made out of a club, which if something I want almost something to happen between the two of them for her to get it out of her system, you think she's going to get it out of her system before Amanda takes it out of her system and gets her anger?

Speaker 1:
[49:17] I do.

Speaker 2:
[49:18] OK, good. That makes me feel good.

Speaker 1:
[49:21] One less fuck for the road kind of thing.

Speaker 2:
[49:23] I hope that she I really do hope for her sake she's over West before West dicks her over again.

Speaker 1:
[49:31] Right. But then she'll still have the best friend. She's also considers him a friend after the romance dies down. Right. There's still that. That's my best friend. That's who I cried to. That's who I said I didn't feel seen. And the next thing you know, he's telling me he sees me in a scene.

Speaker 2:
[49:52] And remember also West was the one going to Kyle to give him advice too when he was being mean to Amanda.

Speaker 1:
[49:59] Yeah. Because I saw West and I was like, hey, I just want to tell you, you know, that's I thought it was really nice of you to stick up for Amanda like that. You know, and maybe that was the panty dropper for Amanda. You know, I remember when I was getting divorced and my brother, who I love, love, love so much. He said he was younger. He's like five years younger than me. And he was what was like 28. So he was like 23. And he and I like thought like, oh my God, you know, maybe I could get my marriage back or maybe I could make this one. He goes, once the spark is gone, it's gone. It doesn't come back.

Speaker 2:
[50:35] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[50:37] And in that case, I mean, people do come back from things, but maybe the spark wasn't gone. You know, you could break up with someone and still want to physically be with them.

Speaker 2:
[50:47] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[50:48] But once that physical part is gone, that's gone. Now, Kyle said, geez, I had such a good time when she didn't show up. I realized how fucked my marriage is.

Speaker 2:
[51:00] Yeah. Like I had more fun and I felt like, and it wasn't like he was even doing anything terrible.

Speaker 1:
[51:06] He was being his silly self.

Speaker 2:
[51:07] Yeah. He was being his silly center of attention self. And he was just being like, he just wanted to be like, and people didn't have to pretend they didn't like him. They played along with him.

Speaker 1:
[51:20] They all had a good time and he was like, wow, I haven't felt this good in so long. And my wife happens to not be here. We're really in trouble.

Speaker 2:
[51:27] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[51:27] I'm like, you have no idea. I know you want to be seen.

Speaker 2:
[51:34] Yeah, I know. I know. Well, I think we have we have a lot left.

Speaker 1:
[51:40] I'm well, how much? How many? Let's let's talk. Let's figure this out because you know, we're going to have to have a funeral when this is over. I mean, it's going to be like breaking bad.

Speaker 2:
[51:48] What do you think we should could ask Andy if we could be at the reunion?

Speaker 1:
[51:54] I mean, listen, Teddy, I hate to say it, but maybe you could get us in. Say, listen, like this might be my last time.

Speaker 4:
[52:05] This might be my last time to be at a reunion.

Speaker 3:
[52:10] Can you take one for the team?

Speaker 1:
[52:13] I swear I'll buy you something to help buy a nice workout outfit.

Speaker 4:
[52:17] I don't want to be by myself, so I need to bring Dolores. Because I'm all alive.

Speaker 3:
[52:29] Bet you better call him today.

Speaker 1:
[52:32] I'm going to text him and say, wow, Teddi's really good.

Speaker 3:
[52:39] I'm crying, all in the name of fun. But you won't make that call.

Speaker 4:
[52:48] Stuff I need to do. Bye Dolores, I'll talk to you soon. Thanks guys for tuning in to another episode. Hopefully we have better news next week.

Speaker 3:
[53:00] Yeah, Teddi gets us into the reunion.