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Speaker 1:
[00:15] What's up, all you late comers? Where you guys been? We've been waiting for you to show up for our Tuesday show. We've been here waiting for you guys. No, sorry we're late.

Speaker 2:
[00:26] I was just telling Lynette that Spreaker, it was glitching for me last week. And so the show didn't come up in people's feats, but we had actually recorded it unlike this week that we didn't actually record.

Speaker 1:
[00:40] Right. This week we didn't record on Monday. We're actually recording today on Tuesday.

Speaker 2:
[00:45] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[00:45] So that's why it's going up a little bit late. And we got some stories. We got lots to tell you guys.

Speaker 2:
[00:51] Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:
[00:52] We're happy you're here.

Speaker 2:
[00:53] You know, a lot of people don't enjoy it when you say like, I'm so tired. You know, who would enjoy that? But I got to tell you, I am so tired.

Speaker 1:
[01:03] Are you really?

Speaker 2:
[01:04] I'm so old.

Speaker 1:
[01:05] Well, you had a busy weekend.

Speaker 2:
[01:07] I can't bounce back.

Speaker 1:
[01:09] Like I used to.

Speaker 2:
[01:10] Like I used to.

Speaker 1:
[01:10] I know. I agree. Yeah. I mean, when you have a busy weekend, like I had a busy weekend, it's just like, said then somebody was like, do you want to plan something on Monday? And I'm like, no, you're not recording on Monday. And I'm like, no, I got to, I'm like, I'm wiped. Yeah. I had a long weekend, which we'll talk about. But, hey, did you know they found Nancy? Pima County posted a post. I just really quick, gotta tell you this.

Speaker 2:
[01:39] No, I wanna-

Speaker 1:
[01:40] Last week-

Speaker 2:
[01:41] I'm what?

Speaker 1:
[01:42] Pima County Sheriff's posted a post, Nancy found. And then you look at the post. It's a different Nancy.

Speaker 2:
[01:51] And why would they-

Speaker 1:
[01:52] an older woman that kind of looks like Nancy Guthrie, it's like Nancy Wazowski has been found. And by the way, she was- I looked into it. She was only missing for like four hours. They reported her missing. And then they- but the thing is, is why would they do that? It was insane. I'm like-

Speaker 2:
[02:11] something's up with them. Were people upset about it?

Speaker 1:
[02:13] Of course! That's how I found out about it. It was like all over like TikTok and stuff.

Speaker 2:
[02:19] I just realized something really funny.

Speaker 1:
[02:20] Yeah?

Speaker 2:
[02:21] Our pillows that were made for us, I think by Becky.

Speaker 1:
[02:25] Yeah, we had a- is that where they are? They're up high.

Speaker 2:
[02:29] But okay, you guys can't see this. I'm just- should I take a picture of it?

Speaker 1:
[02:32] Yeah, we're in our- we're in Patrick's studio. And I was- a fan made us For Crying Out Loud little like- little pillows.

Speaker 2:
[02:39] Yeah, they say cunt on them.

Speaker 1:
[02:41] Right. And I used to use it for my back pillow when I would sit here in this chair. But I've been for like weeks going, where's those pillows? They're missed, they're gone. And now Stefanie just found them up top high.

Speaker 2:
[02:52] Maybe, maybe like, uh, Kaylin felt like Charlie Sheen wouldn't appreciate our cunt pillows.

Speaker 1:
[02:58] That's right. Charlie Sheen was here in our studio. Yeah. Uh, or maybe the kids, Patrick's kids are getting a little older and they can read. Oh, that's probably why. And he has like, they have little friends and the parents have to come over and see those pillows. Because the kids play in the studio too. So, anywho, yeah, uh, yeah. So Nancy was found. Um, I wanted to tell you this story. I think it's interesting. And I got the permission from my friend, Glenn. Shout out to Glenn and his, and his partner, Phil, who listens to our show. They love our show. Um, yes. So Glenn sent me a text over the weekend and said, have you, something like, have you ever experienced one of your children? Uh, I think he said something like passed out drunk, something like that. And I'm like, yeah, I have both of them. Yes. And then he was like, well, call me when you have time. I was out, I was rushing out the door to go look at houses. So I talked to him and he told me this, the story he's, you know, Glenn's got three beautiful daughters that are in there. Like Natalia's age and a little one's older than Natalia, one's a little younger than Natalia. So they're like teens, you know, upper teens or young twenties. And then he has a son who's 15 or 16. And he is like the golden child. He's a, you know, he's the star athlete. He gets great grades. You know, he's the good boy. You know, they're all good kids, but, you know, that's his boy. And he tells me that on like Saturday night, like his son went with his friends to a house. The parents were out for the night. And I guess they got into the liquor cabinet and they were doing shots and they kept doing shots. And there was vomit. Everybody, not just his son, everybody was throwing up. And I guess someone got in touch with one of his older daughters and she called, you know, Glenn and his wife immediately. And was like, something's up with our, you know, my brother. I don't want to say his name. We'll call him Bob.

Speaker 2:
[05:14] That's my dog's name.

Speaker 1:
[05:16] That's right.

Speaker 2:
[05:18] You know what? I think my dog has a drinking problem, so it's okay.

Speaker 1:
[05:21] Okay. Yeah. So Bob, not the dog. You need to come like come right away. So they go to the house and they've never seen him like that. He was out of it. He was passed out. He had, he was puking everywhere. And then the older, the other kids were there. They were throwing up. And then the parents, of course, got called. They came home and had to deal with that mess. And he's like, you know, it was kind of traumatizing because he's never experienced that with any of his kids to see them that way. I mean, he was so close to calling 911 or taking him to urgent care, especially his wife. And they were freaked out and it was like very traumatizing. And then he thought, what do parents do? Like, do they? He's like, you know, you got to teach these kids if you're, you don't want to like go, hey, it's okay to start. We've talked about this before in the past many times. Like you don't want to go and put it in their head. Like, hey, it's okay if you're like drinking or experimenting. But then you also want to educate them. Like if you do drink, you don't want to be doing shots of vodka or whiskey, you know, and which is what I think a lot of these teenagers have done, you know.

Speaker 2:
[06:35] They do.

Speaker 1:
[06:35] They do.

Speaker 2:
[06:36] It's not like when we were kids, these kids don't drink beer.

Speaker 1:
[06:39] No, no.

Speaker 2:
[06:41] Which is not going to do the same thing. They drink shot, they drink vodka.

Speaker 1:
[06:45] Right. They do. They do shots. And that's what happens. And that's what happened with my kids in the past. You know, I remember Sunny, like Sunny sent me that weird text like, hi, Bob. I don't remember that. Like, hey, Joe. Natalia keeps calling me. So, you know, he's like, he was dealing with him with the hangover the next morning when, you know, the next morning after it happened. And he's like, you know, I really want. And then the other thing he was, here's the classic Glenn though. Old school Glenn, because I grew up with Glenn and I've gotten drunk from Glenn. Like the first time I've ever gotten completely drunk was with Glenn and our friends at a drive-in. And they're notorious for writing on you, you know, like Glenn would write a penis on like Mike's head, you know. And so Glenn did want to have like write, like make a little mustache on him just to lighten the mood. And his wife is like, absolutely not. You're not doing that. He's like, come on, it'll lighten the mood, make them, you know, the next morning. And she's like, no, no, no. But he's, you know, he's going to talk to him. And it's, you know, something he's like parents, something for parents to think about when their kids are that age and they start to experiment. You want to like educate them. If you're going to drink, this is how you're doing it. You know, drink lots of water. Don't do shots to start with, maybe a seltzer or beer or whatever. So that was, you know, I mean, you really never experienced that, did you?

Speaker 2:
[08:16] Oh, my God, I'm just debating whether to say this. I almost a couple of years ago did a Patreon about it, but I feel like it's been many years now and I feel like I could talk about it and she wouldn't mind.

Speaker 1:
[08:30] Right.

Speaker 2:
[08:30] But remember what happened with Sadie?

Speaker 1:
[08:32] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[08:34] I mean, so I'll just tell you guys, years ago, many years ago, so she's like 18 and a half now, so she was probably 14. Maybe even, could she have been younger? I think she was 14.

Speaker 1:
[08:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[08:50] She decided to experiment with drinking. We didn't know. We had no idea. She was just home with Elbie and Xander, and they didn't know either. So I guess it so I mean, this is kind of a spoiler alert, but the story was so scary because they were just all hanging out. The three kids were hanging out, having like a dance party. I went to bed at like three in the morning. Xander comes and he wakes us up, and he's like, something's wrong with Sadie. So keep in mind, we have no idea anything's going on with them.

Speaker 1:
[09:25] Right.

Speaker 2:
[09:26] He's like, something's wrong with Sadie. She's down in the hallway. She's on the floor and she can't talk. And I was like, oh my God. So we of course run out there. Sadie's laying on the floor. I'm assuming she had a medical emergency. There's no way I'm thinking drugs or alcohol at first. I can't get her to speak. She's like so completely out of it. And I was like, oh my God, oh my God, we have to call 911. So we call the paramedics. I cannot get her to speak to me. Then I start thinking, fentanyl. Like somebody gave her a pill. Like I think she was in ninth grade. So I was like, oh my God, somebody slipped or something. I hear about this fentanyl. And then my mind just gets really dark. I'm just like, did she overdose on her medication? Like did she, and we're freaking out. Paramedics come. They seem way too calm for the situation. Cause I'm like, oh my God, she's gonna die.

Speaker 1:
[10:34] Like I'm losing my kid.

Speaker 2:
[10:36] The paramedics, they take her vitals. They're like, her vitals are okay. I'm like, what's wrong with her? They put her in the ambulance. I'm with her, but then I'm like, well, let me run in the house and look at her medication bottle and see if it's empty. I go in the house, I look at her meds, it's fine. We go to the hospital. John and I are freaking the fuck out. I mean, you remember this story, cause I told you at the time, but like I kept this a secret from all my friends. Like it was, you know, for her privacy. But anyway, long story short, I'm in the hospital room with her. She's starting to like get better. I start, I'm like, seems like drinking. Where would she have been drinking?

Speaker 1:
[11:22] Right.

Speaker 2:
[11:23] She wasn't out anywhere. Like she wasn't out at a party, like nothing happened. And I keep, oh, and now Sadie can speak, but like every time I ask her, she's like, I don't know. And I'm like, I just don't feel like she had a medical emergency. Her vitals are all fine.

Speaker 1:
[11:40] Right. Right.

Speaker 2:
[11:41] And the paramedics had been very calm about it. Like I felt at some point it dawned on me that the paramedics think that she took something or drank.

Speaker 1:
[11:52] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[11:53] So then I looked like a fool going, I don't know what, what? Anyway, finally, I tell Sadie, listen, they tested your blood. I go, if you, did you drink something? Did you get into the liquor cabinet? You know, then she goes, finally, she, I was like, we're gonna find out one way or another.

Speaker 1:
[12:11] Right.

Speaker 2:
[12:12] Cause we're gonna get the results of your blood test back. So I was like, you've, I'm scared to death. If it's not that, then something is very wrong with you medically. So if it is that I will be relieved and you won't be in trouble. And then finally she nodded and I was like, you did, you drank?

Speaker 1:
[12:31] Right.

Speaker 2:
[12:31] Where'd you get it? I go, did you go in the liquor cabinet? And she basically had wanted to try it. So she mixed Arnold Palmer, like lemonade, iced tea and vodka. And I'm telling you, because I was like so mad at Elbie and Xander. In the moment, I was like, if she did something, you better fucking tell me, right? Like you better tell me. And Elbie was crying. And so was Xander. And they're like, no, we know. So that's why it was so mysterious until she told me. And of course, everybody was surprised. Well, I mean, we made her talk to her therapist. We made her talk to her psychiatrist. I made her, yeah, like talk about it.

Speaker 1:
[13:15] Right.

Speaker 2:
[13:16] And I have to say, I mean, it's never happened since. I think it was almost a good thing. I think she was like basically scared straight.

Speaker 1:
[13:25] Right, right. That happens. Yeah. So she just basically tried it. Because that's what these kids are going to do.

Speaker 2:
[13:33] She didn't know how much she was having. She just poured vodka into a glass.

Speaker 1:
[13:38] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[13:39] With lemonade.

Speaker 1:
[13:40] And the first time drinking alcohol, like that's going to happen. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[13:44] I think she had like two or three cups of it, not realizing.

Speaker 1:
[13:49] Right.

Speaker 2:
[13:49] Yeah. She had alcohol poisoning.

Speaker 1:
[13:51] Wow. And yeah, basically, I mean, sometimes it's kind of a good lesson if it happened, especially if she did it at home, which is good too. You know, imagine if she did it someplace else and she didn't have her siblings around or, you know what I mean? That's scary. That is scary. So yeah, it's something like parents have to deal with. I wonder what our people, audience thinks. They have any advice?

Speaker 2:
[14:18] I mean, I think that this happens to a lot of people.

Speaker 1:
[14:21] Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2:
[14:22] I think I was really embarrassed, like, I don't know, as a parent, like, oh my God, your daughter did what? You know, I didn't tell anybody. But you know, what I think, it happens.

Speaker 1:
[14:36] Yeah. When you're raising-

Speaker 2:
[14:37] And kids experiment and they do shots.

Speaker 1:
[14:39] Yeah, of course. I mean, most kids, most teens, when you're raising teens, it's going to happen. They're going to want to experiment. And it's like, you got to talk to them and explain to them, you know, what, what the right thing to do if you're drinking and had a drink and don't do shots.

Speaker 2:
[14:58] It's really hard to tell too, when your kids are younger, you know, yes, I turned out to be an alcoholic. That word is so gross. But you know, the more I do like the record drunkish episodes, the more I see that it's just regular people. It's not like, it's not always the kid that was drinking at like nine. Yeah, oftentimes it's the kid that was just drinking like what looked normal. And then you start, it's just, you can't predict. So the fact that a kid gets really drunk and it's a medical emergency and they have to go to the hospital is also not a predictor of like, oh my God, that kid's like an addict.

Speaker 1:
[15:40] Exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[15:41] Their life is.

Speaker 1:
[15:41] Right, right, right. I mean, and it's also like it is startling and shocking to a parent when you think, you know, Natalia expected it, you know, in the past, like, you know, and she's now learned her her lesson. She learned it before she went to college. And, you know, she's now I don't I don't worry about that at all anymore because she takes care of herself. She's she knows her body and whatever. So Sonny, I would have never expected that he's a super cautious kid. So it never, you know, crossed my mind that he would just go to his friends. But then it's like, of course, his friends are probably experimenting. So he's going to do it too, you know. So that's why it was kind of startling to see, like Sonny and, and, you know, come home drunk like that. But then he never did it again. Like he learned his lesson kind of thing.

Speaker 2:
[16:33] But also, like LB definitely does her fair share of drinking. And when I hear about how often they drink and how much partying goes on, you know, I can't help but get a little triggered and just, and worry and go, oh, I hope she's not like drinking so much, or I hope she's not drinking in situations where she shouldn't drink. And I think about what I did and all my risky behavior and how many times I just got like drunk out of my mind. But then I just have to remember, my friend Cecily will tell me all the time, like kids in college drink a lot. Yeah, that is what they do. She's like, I barely drink at all. And I drank so much.

Speaker 1:
[17:17] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[17:18] I had one night stands. I got so drunk that I disappeared from my friends and they're all like, and you know me now and I'm like the most normal.

Speaker 1:
[17:28] Right, right.

Speaker 2:
[17:29] Jewish mom. Yeah. Who barely drinks.

Speaker 1:
[17:31] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[17:31] So like, don't worry.

Speaker 1:
[17:33] Yeah, they go through those stages. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. So we got other stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 2:
[18:13] Well, you know, I was already getting Flamingo razors for Sadie and Elbie. I was buying them and you can buy the razor and then you can also buy the blades, the cartridges separately. And it was so funny, cause when I got the package in the mail, Sadie was like, who ordered Flamingo? Like she's so excited. She thought it was for her. So I gave it to her.

Speaker 1:
[18:33] Oh yeah. Natalia uses it all the time too.

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[19:28] Yes.

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Speaker 2:
[20:30] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:31] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[20:32] So this weekend, yes, I had this state speech and debate tournament. Drove with Xander. I'll tell you, it was kind of a mixed bag. So part of this story is for Patreon. So I'll get back to that. But we drive over there. It was a fairly fun drive. We got a bunch of snacks. It was my first time having like a trip with Xander. So it was nice and bonding. And we made a joint playlist. Oh, cute. Yeah. It's just funny, cause Xander likes more harder music than I do. Kind of hard rock. He tends to like some metal stuff and like punk, you know? And I like, well, you guys know what I like, shitty music.

Speaker 1:
[21:25] Yacht rock.

Speaker 2:
[21:26] I like yacht rock. So we kind of met in the middle. Like I found singer songwriters stuff. He found more mid tempo stuff of what he likes. But we had a really good time. So we get there. Now, you're going to totally relate to this. I don't have like my friend. You know how I would always say I have like my friend Julie, and her daughter, but her daughter didn't qualify for state this year. There's like a friend of Xander's that he knows a little bit well, and I've met the mom several times and she's fine. She's fun. She's, she's a good hang.

Speaker 1:
[22:04] Yeah. Because you're not judging, right?

Speaker 2:
[22:06] I was judging.

Speaker 1:
[22:07] You are judging.

Speaker 2:
[22:08] Yes. Yes. If you're going to go, you have to judge because they need judges. And Xander was the only kid from his school.

Speaker 1:
[22:15] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[22:15] They qualified. So it's just me and our coach. Well, OK, so.

Speaker 1:
[22:24] And it's two days, right?

Speaker 2:
[22:26] Well, here's OK. So we are going to get there on Friday, Saturday morning at the crack of dawn. That's the thing starts 8 a.m. I need to be judging around, which means I need to be on campus of this high school where it takes place at like 720. Yeah, because then they're going to send you a ballot. You got to get situated. You got to get registered. There's usually lines. It's a big kashaw at state competition, because I did it last year, but it was local. If you remember, it was in Culver City. So, you know, we plan to try to get into town as early as possible. I tried to get a hotel where this lady, let's call her Betty. So, Betty and her daughter are going to, they don't go to our school, but I know them from like different events.

Speaker 1:
[23:15] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[23:16] Okay. And her daughter got qualified and we don't know anybody else really.

Speaker 1:
[23:20] Right.

Speaker 2:
[23:21] So, the hotel that she was staying at was booked solid. So, I get a different hotel. I don't know where it is. I just know it's like three miles from the school. When we get there, it turns out this other mom, it turns out our hotels are right next to each other and like they almost share a parking lot.

Speaker 1:
[23:41] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[23:41] And we got there at the, crazily at the exact same time.

Speaker 1:
[23:44] Wow. Nice.

Speaker 2:
[23:45] So, I'm like, this is what a great omen.

Speaker 1:
[23:47] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[23:48] Pulled into the parking lot. There's like my friend. She wasn't, it turned out to like just be fine.

Speaker 1:
[23:56] Right. Okay. I got it.

Speaker 2:
[23:58] So, we go to eat. She and I are like, oh good. We're both here and I'm me. I'm too effusive. I'm just like, this is so great. We're both here at the same time. We can hang out. Little do I know, she's like a book mom. She's like, not that interested.

Speaker 1:
[24:14] Right. Not socially as much to hang.

Speaker 2:
[24:17] She's not like me.

Speaker 1:
[24:18] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[24:19] They're not like us. I was like, I'm so relieved to have a friend cause this could be so boring. Not knowing anybody here. Yeah. She and I can go fuck around. The kids can talk. We'll go get dinner. So we did. We did go get some dinner. But then she was just like, all right, well, you know, we're going to go back to our room. I was like, that's fine. We're tired. We had a long drive. That's all good. And then we drove together to the school the next day. I drove them and we get there. Now I'm judging. So I'm like, oh, I hope I get around. Cause the one of the fun things about judging is you judge arounds and then you can talk about it afterwards. Like you got like a dog in that fight.

Speaker 1:
[25:01] Right. Of course.

Speaker 2:
[25:02] You care because you've seen these kids and then you're invested in like, Yeah, you're rooting for, yeah. Right.

Speaker 1:
[25:06] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[25:07] But this bitch is like, I hope I don't get one. I kind of wanted to just read my book.

Speaker 1:
[25:11] She didn't want to judge.

Speaker 2:
[25:14] Well, she was registered as a judge and she was going to have to judge, but she didn't feel like it.

Speaker 1:
[25:18] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[25:18] She wanted to read her book.

Speaker 1:
[25:19] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[25:20] I'm like, bitch, you got 12 hours to read your fricking book. We're going to be here for a long time.

Speaker 1:
[25:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[25:25] But okay. So you do you. You don't judge if you don't want to. Yeah. So she doesn't get around. She's reading her book. I go judge. Oh, but I should tell you this. So Saturday morning, so Friday night we get in. Saturday morning at 3.30 in the morning, eyes pop open.

Speaker 1:
[25:46] Oh boy.

Speaker 2:
[25:47] I'm like, I don't even want to know. It's still dark out. It can't be morning yet. I look at my phone, it's 3.30. I'm like, oh my God, go back to sleep. But my brain was having none of it. I was just awake.

Speaker 1:
[26:00] That's the worst.

Speaker 2:
[26:02] So I'm like, I'm going to have to get up at like six.

Speaker 1:
[26:05] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[26:05] So I got two and a half hours. I got to get back to sleep.

Speaker 1:
[26:08] Right.

Speaker 2:
[26:09] Could not fall asleep. I'm just laying there. So I put a podcast on and I'm trying to doze off. And then I'm having that old school kind of like, okay, if I fall asleep right now, I could get a good like two hours of sleep, right? No, I never fell back to sleep. Never.

Speaker 1:
[26:27] Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2:
[26:29] So then Xander wakes up. I wake him up at like 6 15 or so. And he's like, what time did you get up? And I'm like, I didn't want to be hours ago. I was like, don't worry about it. I just woke up, you know, but now cut to the middle of Saturday. I'm exhausted. I'm just drinking, I'm drinking coffee and I don't do well with coffee as I get nervous. So I was just not feeling great. Then I started on like the candy.

Speaker 1:
[26:59] Oh boy.

Speaker 2:
[27:00] Yeah, cause girl, my GLP had worn off like weeks ago. I hadn't taken it in a while. Shout out to my girl, Karen, who hooks me up. She had sent it to me. I just was like, I got a little cocky. I was like, I lost the weight I wanted to lose. I'm fine right now. No, I just went out of control. I was bored. I'm tired. I just started eating everything that was like in sight.

Speaker 1:
[27:25] Cause you're trying to keep your energy up. And that's how you're looking at it.

Speaker 2:
[27:29] And the place was like a fricking 7-Eleven. Cause towards the end of the day, they were serving like nachos. They had melted cheese and like jalapeno sauce. And I'm like, all right, when in Rome, when at James Logan High School in Union City, California, I guess I'll have nachos. So I have chips with like dripping cheese all over it. But I'd already had like 20 mini almond Joy bar. I wasn't a wreck. You know, it wasn't helping my mood or my emotional stability at that point. So now, and I'm barely getting to see Xander. He has hours off between rounds, but he's busy. He's like off with his friends.

Speaker 1:
[28:10] Yeah. So finally, and Adam, you don't have anybody to really hang out with.

Speaker 2:
[28:16] No, because Betty is like warm up for a year. She's not that interested. Yeah. She, we, but I met a different mom. So I had to judge around with this mom. And then we kind of bonded because it turns out that her son goes to Taft, which is where LB went. So they're from LA.

Speaker 1:
[28:36] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[28:36] So we start talking and we're in the same round. And then it turns out that she's like a drama teacher at a local school. And she's like fun.

Speaker 1:
[28:45] Right.

Speaker 2:
[28:45] And normal.

Speaker 1:
[28:46] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[28:46] And then we really get into talking about like, how did we judge that round? And who did you like? And why did we not like some things and other things? Then it turns out we're both judging in the very next round.

Speaker 1:
[28:58] Nice.

Speaker 2:
[28:58] Coincidentally in the same room. So we're so excited. So now she's my friend.

Speaker 1:
[29:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:04] Of course, I totally lost track of her. I tried to friend her on Facebook. Oh, Tanya, if you're out there, she doesn't even know I have a podcast. She knows nothing about me, but I'm sure she was like, who's this person? But anyway, right now I'm comparing Tanya and Betty. And I'm like, Tanya is so much better for me.

Speaker 1:
[29:23] Right.

Speaker 2:
[29:24] I'm like, go read your fucking book, Betty. Bookworm Betty.

Speaker 1:
[29:26] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:27] Bookworm Betty. So anyway, end of that day comes. It's like the we don't find out who breaks. To so the following day was Sunday. And that was going to be the semifinals and then the finals. Now Xander's feeling like very hopeful at this point because he'd felt good about his performances.

Speaker 1:
[29:51] Right.

Speaker 2:
[29:52] And I'm feeling hopeful for him. You know?

Speaker 1:
[29:54] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:54] Now I'm starting to get my hopes up. Like you could go to the finals like this could be really, really cool. Well, no. We find out at like nine o'clock at night that he did not break. Oh, but Betty's daughter did.

Speaker 1:
[30:08] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[30:09] And Xander was really happy for them, you know? Right. So we go over to so we're kind of making tentative plans to maybe go get some more food, but it's late.

Speaker 1:
[30:23] So he's done now. He doesn't have to.

Speaker 2:
[30:25] Now he's totally done.

Speaker 1:
[30:26] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[30:27] We're like, we're going to leave in the morning.

Speaker 1:
[30:28] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[30:29] Okay. But I was like, well, let's go get some food. And I'm trying to like cheer him up a little bit and he's tired and I'm so tired. And he's like, well, it turns out that Betty's daughter did make the final. So then Xander was like, well, maybe I'll do, we'll just go, I'll go see her round in the semifinals. We, anyway, though, we go to like meet up with them just to see if we can grab some food and we all got takeout food. But Betty pretended that she didn't know that her daughter had broken to the semifinals. And I think it's because she knew that Xander didn't.

Speaker 1:
[31:08] Oh.

Speaker 2:
[31:09] And it just hits me off.

Speaker 1:
[31:10] She was trying to be like.

Speaker 2:
[31:12] So we go meet them at this restaurant and I'm like, congratulations. And she's like, what do you mean?

Speaker 1:
[31:19] What? Are you serious?

Speaker 2:
[31:21] And I was like, come on, Betty. She's like, oh, what? And I was like, your daughter, mate, she's, she broke. She was like, oh, did she?

Speaker 1:
[31:32] Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:
[31:32] And then the daughter goes, oh, I did.

Speaker 1:
[31:35] Oh, what? Why? That's so ridiculous.

Speaker 2:
[31:38] I know. And then Xander and I were both like, we kind of exchanged a look like, you know, you, you already know this information, but like, okay, you don't have to be like, Xander's fine.

Speaker 1:
[31:48] Right.

Speaker 2:
[31:48] I was like, don't worry. Xander's totally fine.

Speaker 1:
[31:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[31:51] Anyway, then the next morning, I wake up at 6 a.m. and I am not feeling well. I felt like I had a hangover. I had a migraine. Oh boy.

Speaker 1:
[32:04] From all the sugar, you think?

Speaker 2:
[32:06] I think from all the crap I ate, from having been so tired, from lack of sleep.

Speaker 1:
[32:11] Right. That catches up to you the next day.

Speaker 2:
[32:13] I think from all the caffeine too.

Speaker 1:
[32:16] Your body's not used to all of that. No. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[32:20] So it was so bad. And I have migraine medicine with me, Imitrex, and I take, I can usually handle a half an Imitrex. I take that. I try to fall back to sleep. I can't fall back to sleep. I'm just not feeling well. Then I'm going to get like washcloths and putting hot water on it and putting it on my face.

Speaker 1:
[32:39] Oh my God. This sounds so horrible.

Speaker 2:
[32:41] Xander wakes up and he's like, Mom, are you okay? And I'm like, I'm fine. Then I'm so sick with the migraine that I have to throw up. So it's like our hotel room. And I'm just like, oh my God, I don't want to wake him up. I don't want to be gross, but like I'm, I'm ill.

Speaker 1:
[32:57] Right.

Speaker 2:
[32:58] So then I take another half an imitrix. Now I've got 50 milligrams in me. I'm a lightweight when it comes to this stuff. It just can make you feel, it's not narcotic or anything. It can, it just, it can make you feel like edgy.

Speaker 1:
[33:14] Yeah. I hate that.

Speaker 2:
[33:15] So I don't want to take too much anyway. Then I call the hotel. I'm like, what time's the latest I can get a checkout.

Speaker 1:
[33:22] Right.

Speaker 2:
[33:23] So the checkout's not till noon. And they're like, you can stay until 1230, but it's like 11 at this point. And we were supposed to go to the high school and watch the finals.

Speaker 1:
[33:35] Oh, really? I thought you guys were going to go home.

Speaker 2:
[33:37] We were going to go home, but then Xander was like, I kind of want to stay tomorrow morning. Could we leave later in the day? And I had said yes, but now I'm like, I can't drive anywhere, right? So I have Xander Uber over to the high school to watch. And he watches. But then I'm like, I'm still feeling well enough to drive, right? So then I have to fucking book the hotel for another night just so I don't have to leave.

Speaker 1:
[34:02] Oh, that I felt Stephanie.

Speaker 2:
[34:04] That's how bad I felt. I was like, no friends out there.

Speaker 1:
[34:07] And now you're like puking the next morning. It sounds like such a nightmare.

Speaker 2:
[34:12] Yeah. So my god, 1230. It was my latest to check out. So 1215, I call the front desk. I'm like, I need to book for another night. They're like, well, you can't really do that because you have a third party. I went through hotels.com.

Speaker 1:
[34:29] Oh, right.

Speaker 2:
[34:30] So there I was like, OK, listen here. I'm not I can't I can't come and like make a new reservation. And she's like, well, I'll tell you what. You can stay in the same room. I will check you out and check you back in. OK, in the same room. But you still have to come to the front desk and like bring your ID, right? And your credit card or whatever. And I'm like. OK. So she looks and I go, can I come though? Like in like she goes, you need to come by like your late check out time. So I have to like get it together. Oh, you go to the front desk. I give him my ID. OK, I take one more half an imitrix.

Speaker 1:
[35:13] Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:
[35:13] By one o'clock, I'm totally fine.

Speaker 1:
[35:17] Really?

Speaker 2:
[35:18] So now I'm just like, fuck. I'm like, OK, so it took 30 minutes. The last medication I took totally kicked in. And I was like, you know, you know the feeling when you have a horrible hangover and then it goes away. It's like, ah, yes. You're like, that's the best you've ever felt in your life.

Speaker 1:
[35:36] Right. Right.

Speaker 2:
[35:37] New lease on life. You're like, I could go run a marathon right now.

Speaker 1:
[35:41] That's how I felt.

Speaker 2:
[35:41] I was like, well, now I'm fine.

Speaker 1:
[35:43] Oh, no.

Speaker 2:
[35:45] So I just kicked it in the room for a little while. And then Xander got a ride back from our coach, from the coach. And then, like, you stayed, gathered up all our stuff. No, I didn't stay because I was like, I don't need to.

Speaker 1:
[35:59] Right. Right.

Speaker 2:
[36:00] What's the point?

Speaker 1:
[36:00] They have maybe they know some hotels might have like a day rate kind of thing. No, no, no.

Speaker 2:
[36:07] This was not like a prostitution hotel.

Speaker 1:
[36:09] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:10] They didn't have an hourly rate. No, no. They were like, so then I go down to the front desk at like, like three o'clock.

Speaker 1:
[36:17] Right.

Speaker 2:
[36:18] I'm like, well, I'm checking out.

Speaker 1:
[36:20] Oh my god.

Speaker 2:
[36:22] We checked in two hours ago, but I'm checking out. So whatever, whatever.

Speaker 1:
[36:26] That is so sad.

Speaker 2:
[36:29] So then we drove home and we were tired of all of our music, but we listened to a Mitch Hedberg CD on Apple Music. We, we, and it was really fun. He had a fun ride home.

Speaker 1:
[36:43] He passed away, right?

Speaker 2:
[36:44] Oh yeah. Years ago.

Speaker 1:
[36:45] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:45] Died of a heroin overdose.

Speaker 1:
[36:48] Yeah. But he was really funny.

Speaker 2:
[36:50] Really funny. And Xander really liked that. And then, you know, we had some good chats.

Speaker 1:
[36:54] How long was the drive?

Speaker 2:
[36:56] Six, five and a half, six hours.

Speaker 1:
[36:58] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[36:59] Yeah. We left at like 430 and we got home at like 1015.

Speaker 1:
[37:03] Wow. Wow. Well, good for Xander. Sounds like he had a great time. I mean, it's amazing that he does that Speech & Debate stuff. He's so talented with that. That's great.

Speaker 2:
[37:15] And then I could finally see, you know what? Let's do, let's talk about Blissy.

Speaker 1:
[37:20] Blissy.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
[37:27] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[37:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[37:49] Yes. So, Sadie does a lot with her hair.

Speaker 1:
[37:53] Right.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[38:10] Yeah. And they sent me, they sent us a pillowcase and the spray, the pillow spray and a silk sleep mask.

Speaker 1:
[38:16] I loved it.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
[38:43] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[38:43] Yeah. So basically I was just going to say that I, you can see the results, like what all the judges gave him.

Speaker 1:
[38:51] Right.

Speaker 2:
[38:51] And it was so interesting. His first round, two judges gave him first place and one judge gave him sixth place in the round. And I swear to you, it was the same for like a lot of kids. The judging, these judges were all over the place. Somebody would get like, there's seven kids in a round. So another round, Xander got first place, like fourth place and seventh place.

Speaker 1:
[39:20] Really?

Speaker 2:
[39:21] Yeah. So, and then his last round, he got like fifth place, sixth place and like second place. So he didn't, he didn't make it. But it was like that for all the kids, even the kid that came in first had like some, some people thought they were the worst.

Speaker 1:
[39:40] Wow. Well, I think all these judges are basically volunteer judges, right? They're like the parents and stuff. So maybe some of these judges never done it before and they're not used to it. Right. So it's kind of, kind of weird that they do it. I feel like for the, for these finals, these events, maybe they get like the coaches or something to judge. I don't know. Well, maybe they can't do it because it's lack of, or maybe they can judge other kids that are not their kids. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[40:08] It seems like they can't judge their own kids.

Speaker 1:
[40:10] But maybe they can judge other kids. Maybe the coaches should be doing it.

Speaker 2:
[40:14] I think this is something that's interesting as well. So apparently where we were in California was much more conservative. And a lot of the kids were from that area. Like a lot of the kids were from the high school. And this high school was, this is not like, it's not San Francisco.

Speaker 1:
[40:32] Right.

Speaker 2:
[40:32] It's not LA.

Speaker 1:
[40:33] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[40:34] And our coach said, she goes, this is a more conservative part of town. And I noticed now Xander's speech does have to do with being trans in it. You got to wonder if two people love it and one person hated it.

Speaker 1:
[40:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[40:50] What that could be. It's not the performance at that point.

Speaker 1:
[40:53] Right.

Speaker 2:
[40:54] And I'm thinking because there was a round that I judged where, where, and these kids tend to be not conservative. Like the kids are talking about all kinds of woke topics. Right. And I noticed that one of the rounds that I judged, one of the girls' speech was about abortion. Obviously, like pro-choice, you know, and talking about just how dangerous it is and, and that people can die from not having access to abortion. It was super interesting because I gave that girl first place. There was another girl whose speech was about how we don't appreciate teachers enough. And I'm just saying I also loved her speech, and I gave her second place. But then there was like rape culture, not jokes, rape culture, speeches, and the speeches that were the most like controversial.

Speaker 1:
[41:51] Right.

Speaker 2:
[41:52] The other two judges who were in the room with me scored way lower than me.

Speaker 1:
[41:56] Interesting.

Speaker 2:
[41:57] And I was like, and the abortion one who I thought was the best, the best performance, it was really moving. She didn't make it to the semifinals or the finals. And I was like, that tells me something.

Speaker 1:
[42:12] Right. Right. Right. That is interesting. Yeah. I don't know if it's fair to have these parents doing the final round. It's not.

Speaker 2:
[42:21] You know what it's like? It's like a jury.

Speaker 1:
[42:24] Right. Yes, it is.

Speaker 2:
[42:25] What I complain about, you just get some like real losers on juries. They don't know what the fuck they're talking about. They don't understand anything about the law. They're just like, well, I think they're guilty or for no good reason.

Speaker 1:
[42:38] I used to listen to Diddy in the 90s. So yes. Yeah. Right. Right.

Speaker 2:
[42:43] So imagine that's who's judging like your kid on something. There's no rubric. There's no like, OK, if they do this well, you really have to score them high.

Speaker 1:
[42:52] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:52] If they're articulate and they're, you know, they're projecting their voice and they're that that's this many points.

Speaker 1:
[42:59] Oh, they don't tell them that?

Speaker 2:
[43:00] Nothing. Oh, it's just like, do you like it?

Speaker 1:
[43:03] That doesn't seem fair to me.

Speaker 2:
[43:05] They tell you, they tell you to not have bias. They go really check your implicit bias. And like, you can't score a person low because you don't like what they're talking about. But like, how are you going to enforce that?

Speaker 1:
[43:20] Right. Of course. Wow. That is interesting.

Speaker 2:
[43:24] But Xander and I were talking about it and we were like, OK, but if somebody gave a speech that was just like super pro-Trump, they're not going to be my favorite.

Speaker 1:
[43:35] Right.

Speaker 2:
[43:35] I don't care how well spoken they are if I'm like, well, this person sucks. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:40] Right. Right.

Speaker 2:
[43:41] But you're not going to convince me, you're not going to do a speech that's like how much you love Trump and I'm not going to go, well, you've kind of turned me around on this or I'm going to completely ignore the fact that I really disagree. So Xander's like, you know, it is.

Speaker 1:
[43:57] Yeah. It is what it is.

Speaker 2:
[43:58] Like people disagree with my speech. You can't make them score me high.

Speaker 1:
[44:02] Right. He's got such a good head on his shoulder. And you know, that experience of doing those those performances, they're his, his, they're not debates, they're speeches. Right.

Speaker 2:
[44:14] Yeah. It's speech and debate, but he's not a debater. So it's just the speech portion.

Speaker 1:
[44:19] Just having that, you know, training and that quality of like what he's learned from that is going to come in handy as he goes off to college. Like that's a really good skill to have, you know, thinking on his feet, being fast, you know, articulating his story, getting his, his speech across. Like that is really amazing to have that, that, that ability. So that's good for him.

Speaker 2:
[44:43] I agree. I think it is such a good skill. And I've told him that so many times. I was like, it really doesn't matter. If you got to the semifinals, OK, you get to deliver your speech one more time.

Speaker 1:
[44:56] Right.

Speaker 2:
[44:57] But in the grand scheme of things, you got everything you could have gotten out of being in Speech & Debate. You've done so well.

Speaker 1:
[45:02] Absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[45:03] Wrote a speech from your freaking heart and you. And some people are giving you first place.

Speaker 1:
[45:09] Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2:
[45:10] Yeah. So some people are loving it. One woman who was a judge had also been a judge at a different event. So she's obviously from LA. She'd given him first place before.

Speaker 1:
[45:22] Right.

Speaker 2:
[45:22] He knew that this woman judged him again and he was so bummed about it. And I was like, don't nothing to worry about. I go, if she's I go. He's like, yeah, but she's already seen it.

Speaker 1:
[45:33] Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[45:34] But when people love something, they go, oh, my gosh, I get to see this again.

Speaker 1:
[45:39] Right.

Speaker 2:
[45:39] She's going to love it again. She's not going to change her mind.

Speaker 1:
[45:41] Right.

Speaker 2:
[45:42] Sure enough, she gave him a first place.

Speaker 1:
[45:44] Nice. She gave him a second time. Nice. So like, it's good for him.

Speaker 2:
[45:48] And it turns out that Chapman, where he is going to commit, has Speech & Debate on the college level. So he got excited about that. He was like, oh, I'm doing college.

Speaker 1:
[45:59] I mean, he's doing so well. It's so great. I'm happy for him.

Speaker 2:
[46:03] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[46:04] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[46:04] So that was my weekend.

Speaker 1:
[46:06] Poor Stefanie.

Speaker 2:
[46:08] Should we say hi to our friends? Sure. And save some stories for Friday?

Speaker 1:
[46:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[46:13] OK. Let's we got Dick Froelicher.

Speaker 1:
[46:16] Still Froelicher.

Speaker 2:
[46:17] Nikki, call your girls. Elizabeth Williamson's got a lot of kids. And Rita Bassiette Roxham to sleep every night. Holly, we love your Cezzure.

Speaker 1:
[46:27] Butterworth. Yum.

Speaker 2:
[46:28] Valerie hits it out of the park. Katarina.

Speaker 1:
[46:30] Check that molar, girl.

Speaker 2:
[46:32] Yep. Missy and Gabby, they're in Union City.

Speaker 1:
[46:34] Are they still in Union City?

Speaker 2:
[46:36] Yeah, they were trying to judge and they wouldn't. Nobody would let them.

Speaker 1:
[46:39] They're knocking on the doors.

Speaker 2:
[46:42] Yep. Ishaan Vajpayee. Hoo hoo. Yeah. Rebecca Lubin is so cute. Kelly Brandt.

Speaker 1:
[46:48] She's your aunt. She'll take it to Planned Parenthood.

Speaker 2:
[46:49] Yeah, girl.

Speaker 1:
[46:51] Alicia Escalante from the city of El Monte.

Speaker 2:
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[47:30] So give us some love.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
[47:35] I love that.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
[48:29] Go get some salmon.

Speaker 2:
[48:31] Yes. Palm Springs or Palm Desert. We love them. Sugar Skull. It's a small bakery and gift shop on the island of Kauai. They do wedding cakes. They do desserts. They do gifty stuff. You can find them. Their website is sugarskull808.square.site. And I'll save a couple for Friday. But Adam Lerner.

Speaker 1:
[48:54] Get a car from Adam.

Speaker 2:
[48:56] I just got an Instagram message last night from a woman who was like, do you, are you actually friends with Adam? Or is it just like you say what you say because they pay you? And I was like, no, I swear. Because she said, because I, I went through him and he's really, really nice. But I'm just wondering if it's too good to be true. And I was like, no, he is legitimately my friend.

Speaker 1:
[49:17] He is your friend.

Speaker 2:
[49:18] Yeah, my friend. He's the Cecily that I talk about all the time. He's her husband.

Speaker 1:
[49:22] Right.

Speaker 2:
[49:23] I've known him for like over 15 years. I've known him for like 16, 17 years. He's a friend of our family.

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