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Speaker 1:
[00:15] Welcome to Jam Session. I'm Juliet Litman.

Speaker 2:
[00:18] I'm Amanda Dobbins.

Speaker 1:
[00:19] Good morning, Amanda.

Speaker 2:
[00:20] Good morning. I'm great. As you started talking, I had to do a posture check. So I'm sorry for the slouching in the first two seconds of this video. Really working on it. Haven't purchased one of those Taylor Swift sports bras, but it does seem good. It does seem good. But I'd like to think that I could build the muscles myself, you know?

Speaker 1:
[00:42] I think you can.

Speaker 2:
[00:43] I'm working on it. I do a lot of strong back at Pilates. They call it sexy back, but that's not what I'm there for. I'm there for strong back.

Speaker 1:
[00:52] I'd rather not call it that. I wouldn't let anyone know.

Speaker 2:
[00:54] That's kind of my one note. I'm happy with my Pilates switch in 2026. I like my new studio, but we're there for strength. And if it happens to be slightly sexy in the process, that's great. But no one's really going to be seeing the back that often, you know? Sure.

Speaker 1:
[01:11] Yeah, sure.

Speaker 2:
[01:11] I'm more concerned about strength.

Speaker 1:
[01:13] When I had abdominal surgery in 2019, I said to a friend, I'm gonna have a really big scar. And she was like, how often are people seeing your stomach? And I was like, great point. This is... So it's fine.

Speaker 2:
[01:22] Bless Dr. Dwight, my OB-GYN, who was very concerned with my second baby, with Cy, about making sure that my C-section scar was gonna be really attractive. And I was like, that's really nice, Dr. Dwight. But the only person in the history of the world who will ever see this scar will probably, and not even me, because of where it is, I can't see it.

Speaker 1:
[01:46] Tough angle.

Speaker 2:
[01:47] Tough angle. It'll just be my husband, and I don't really think he cares that much.

Speaker 1:
[01:51] It's all good.

Speaker 2:
[01:52] We don't need to worry too much about this. But you know what? He did a beautiful job with the scar.

Speaker 1:
[01:56] Great job, Dr. Dwight.

Speaker 2:
[01:57] Shout out, Dr. Dwight.

Speaker 1:
[01:59] All right, let's get into celebrities. We have a lot to cover. Nothing groundbreaking, but lots of pet interests of Jam Sessions. This is an exciting week. Where do you want to begin? Here are our topics. We got Victoria Beckham in The Wall Street Journal. We got the Devil Wears Prada world premiere. We've got Meghan Trainor weighing in on the Toxic Mon group. We got Rihanna on the cover of W Magazine. Sandra Bullock has joined Instagram.

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Speaker 1:
[04:04] Posh Spice, baby!

Speaker 2:
[04:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[04:06] You know, Victoria Beckham and David Beckham are amazing for many reasons. And I would say today I'm finding them amazing because Victoria Beckham got a whole long feature in The Weekend Wall Street Journal in which no information was delivered. Literally zero new information. It's kind of a marketing clinic of yourself.

Speaker 2:
[04:28] With respect, I think that's going to be a theme throughout the topics on this podcast. We have reached a point certainly in popular celebrity culture where everyone just does stuff without revealing anything. And I guess we're all playing along.

Speaker 1:
[04:43] Yeah. I think the occasion for Victoria Beckham, I'm about to call her Victoria Spice, Victoria Spice Beckham being featured in The Wall Street Journal is that she and The Gap announced a collaboration, which is The Gap X Victoria Beckham. Of course, my first thought was, will we be getting gray t-shirts from this collab? The Wall Street Journal suggests that all of the casual wear will have branding on it. You might get a gray t-shirt, but it'll say The Gap and Victoria Beckham. So that's up to you if you want that. I would consider it personally.

Speaker 2:
[05:18] Right. Also, presumably, it'll be a lower price than the Victoria Beckham marled gray t-shirt that was posted to her website and e-commerce sites a couple of weeks after the Netflix stocking question, when we all wondered about the provenance of the gray sweatshirt. I believe that was in the 140 to 150 range.

Speaker 1:
[05:43] That's a lot.

Speaker 2:
[05:43] I think the gap collapse will be lower.

Speaker 1:
[05:47] At least for a t-shirt, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[05:50] You're right. I don't know whether I want that level of branding on my t-shirt. I'm looking for simplicity.

Speaker 1:
[05:57] I thought so.

Speaker 2:
[05:58] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[05:59] Victoria Beckham is also touting the fact that Victoria Beckham, her clothing line, is now profitable. She makes it very clear that her beauty line did not carry them into profitability. It would have been such anyway. But as stated before, we are wearers and fans of VB, the beauty line. So that's no shame in that game.

Speaker 2:
[06:18] It's so good. It's the only mascara I wear.

Speaker 1:
[06:23] Me too.

Speaker 2:
[06:24] The liquid foundation drops are magical. They're really, really good.

Speaker 1:
[06:29] The mascara, I realized I wasn't cleaning the brush enough. Since I've cleaned the brush much more, it's really been working great for me.

Speaker 2:
[06:36] Yeah. I think it's fantastic. I wear the eyeliner. I recently ventured into eyeshadow, but I gotta learn how to apply darker eyeshadows. I'm not, I just, my skills aren't there yet. I haven't watched enough YouTubes or I haven't watched enough TikToks reposted on Instagram. So, I'll get there.

Speaker 1:
[06:56] You'll get there.

Speaker 2:
[06:56] Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[06:57] Yeah, I believe in you. The interviewer from The Wall Street Journal did dare to ask Victoria Beckham about her son, Brooklyn. In fact, Brooklyn is mentioned quite a bit. The writer of this is Ellen Gamerman. Brooklyn is mentioned a lot by the writer, not in their conversation. But the question, I'm just gonna read from the article. When I asked Victoria about Brooklyn, she does not reply with his name. And then here's the quote. I think that we've always, we love our children so much. We've always tried to be the best parents that we can be. And you know, we've been in the public eye for more than 30 years right now. And all we've ever tried to do is protect our children and love our children. And you know, that's all I really want to say about it. I thought it was interesting that the question was not really shared. So I don't exactly know what she's responding to with this. But again.

Speaker 2:
[07:45] I'm sure it was incredibly awkward and...

Speaker 1:
[07:50] Pretty gracious answer for the awkwardness, I actually think.

Speaker 2:
[07:53] No, I mean, I don't... When I say awkward, I don't blame the writer. I think that you do have to ask it. And I think probably if I had to imagine it involves some form of the sentence, you know that I have to ask about the recent news reports about Brooklyn Meckham. That's your son Brooklyn and what he said. But that's not an exciting copy in a story, so I understand why it was edited out. Yeah, I mean, as you noted, they are very good marketers and good at publicity, and they had an answer prepared. And she knew exactly what she wanted to say. I'm sure it was rehearsed. I don't totally have a problem with that. I would have more of a problem with someone being like, I'm not going to comment or I don't have any sort of answer or how dare you. Because when you walk into the arena, the arena being a Wall Street Journal profile or any sort of press, you're going to be asked things and you should be prepared. I went to a movie theater conference last week in Las Vegas, it's called CinemaCon.

Speaker 1:
[09:00] CinemaCon.

Speaker 2:
[09:02] And a lot of celebrities do show up. And you can tell who is prepped and who isn't. And it just absolutely drives me insane because, first of all, what I saw was not even real journalism, it is essentially an investor day for movie studios, they do presentations. So all of the questions are decided in advance. Most things are scripted, most people are reading off teleprompters. And still there were some celebrities, Millie Alcock, who were not given a specific answer to a question that everyone knew was going to be asked. So some of the job is prep. And I don't mind that she is being prepped. She reveals nothing, you know? We are no wiser as to what is going on with the Beckham family or with Brooklyn Beckham than we were before this. Other, I guess, than that their strategy is to not acknowledge it or to not speak to it. But...

Speaker 1:
[10:01] I actually think that's a good distinction. I think it's to your... And you sort of eluded to this already. She did acknowledge it, but like obliquely, and wouldn't get into it. So she wasn't trying to dodge it. And there's obviously some sadness and some difficulty there. But it's sort of the best non-answer you can give while not giving a no comment. So I actually... I guess my point is I agree with everything you're saying.

Speaker 2:
[10:26] Yeah. This reminds me that a couple weeks ago, Bridget Reid in The Cut wrote a long, mostly write around, but fairly well, if anonymously sourced piece about, quote unquote, what happened with the Beckhams, but that was really about Brooklyn Beckham and Nicola Peltz Beckham. And again, it wasn't anything that was totally new, but gave some more details about what's going on on that side of the equation, and especially the Nicola Peltz Beckham of it all.

Speaker 1:
[11:02] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[11:04] And the I don't use Google Docs, which I've thought about a lot. And in some ways, may we all get to the place where we can say, I don't use Google Docs to people. But it's interesting how it doesn't seem like there's that much more to know from either side. And I do think that Victoria Beckham and the Beckham family, when David Beckham spoke, he gave something, a very similar answer of just like, we love our kids very much. We love all our kids. So that does seem to be their strategy of just being like we love our children and we're moving forward and hoping he comes back. But it does seem like everybody just wants more and it doesn't really seem like there's that much more besides the wedding and the dog and troubled in-law interactions.

Speaker 1:
[11:57] Yeah, I don't think they're going to be like our son is being brainwashed by his wife, which maybe they're saying behind closed doors, but they probably have something more specific. I don't know. But it's moving product. So there is that.

Speaker 2:
[12:12] I mean, that is true. It's at least moving product for Victoria. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[12:16] And I look forward to the full gap line. I'm like, yeah, let me see what this is going to look like. I'm interested.

Speaker 2:
[12:21] Where are you on collabs these days? You shopping a lot of collabs?

Speaker 1:
[12:25] I'm not doing a lot of shopping right now, period.

Speaker 2:
[12:27] Why not?

Speaker 1:
[12:29] I'm trying to save as much money because I'm doing a renovation.

Speaker 2:
[12:31] Right.

Speaker 1:
[12:31] And so every... It is a different kind of shopping.

Speaker 2:
[12:35] Prudent. That's smart.

Speaker 1:
[12:37] So I'm trying to put out every dollar into my home. But I did do a little shopping over the weekend. And the other thing is, like, I have a lot of stuff, and I don't even know, like, what I want to look like in this world. Like, not like, what procedure do I need? But like, how am I presenting myself? I'm working on it. We'll come back to that in feedback and follow up, I'm sure.

Speaker 2:
[13:00] Totally.

Speaker 1:
[13:02] So where am I on collabs? I think I'm admiring them from afar.

Speaker 2:
[13:05] OK.

Speaker 1:
[13:06] Where are you?

Speaker 2:
[13:06] I am always excited. And one of my best ever purchases is a Marni for Uniqlo collab, a raincoat that I wore, that I bought, I think, from Poshmark. Not even. It was sold out by the time I got to the collab, because I'm not I'm not logging on at 10 a.m. Eastern.

Speaker 1:
[13:26] Me neither.

Speaker 2:
[13:27] To buy the collab sellouts. I'm sorry. I just I can't get there in time. But it is it's very cool and it's also so functional. It's a giant, really, really useful, but still not ugly raincoat. So I'm I'm pro collabs. I was I'm asking because I was looking at the Christopher John Rogers Old Navy Collab recently.

Speaker 1:
[13:50] Oh, yeah, I was looking at last night. I was at the Old Navy app as a top five app on my phone.

Speaker 2:
[13:55] Oh, so your app level with Old Navy.

Speaker 1:
[13:58] Oh, I'm with Old Navy. Old Navy is to me is the real real is to you. I'm adding things to my cart and coming back to them in due time. Like it's just just waiting for me. Also, I really love this three pack of pajamas for my son that I sold out and was like waiting for it to come back. But it's been months.

Speaker 2:
[14:14] Oh, wow. That's that's dedication. I really like Old Navy clothes. I'm not on an app level with Old Navy, even though the website is borderline unusable, especially on mobile. Yeah, I like I know. I understand. But you know me and my data. I don't want to have to sign up for an account. I pay for shipping with Gap and Old Navy and J Crew every time, even though I have.

Speaker 1:
[14:36] That's nuts. That's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[14:38] I just they won't leave me alone and they don't need my info.

Speaker 1:
[14:42] Paying for shipping is something I will not do. I will not pay for shipping. I would rather go to the store.

Speaker 2:
[14:48] But the store doesn't have half of the things anymore.

Speaker 1:
[14:51] I know. I would consider a ship to store to avoid. Wow. Amanda, can I tell you how much I'm making this shipping economy work for me?

Speaker 2:
[15:00] Tell me.

Speaker 1:
[15:01] Micah turned one.

Speaker 2:
[15:02] Yes. Happy birthday, Micah.

Speaker 1:
[15:04] I had extra formula. I returned formula to Walmart, unopened, obviously. But I was just like, this is a free return at Duane Reid. Sure, I'll do it. I returned diapers, too, that he was like too big for. I was like, this is stuff that probably I should just put outside or give away. But I was like, no, this free shipping economy will work for me, and I will go to Duane Reid to return these things.

Speaker 2:
[15:29] Okay. I'm very good about returns because it's the only way you can have the addiction that I have in 2026 is that you have free returns. Really? No, or I'll pay $8,000 for a smaller business. Listen, I understand the cost, and it's what I'm willing to do to stand up to Amazon or whatever. But I'm just very diligent about if it doesn't work, it's got to go and it's got to go back immediately, and you have to be vicious. You really have to return everything. But I'm not at your level. I definitely bundle a lot of RealReal purchases together so that I only pay for one flat $14.95 shipping fee from the RealReal. But that just means I end up spending way more money on the RealReal, which is really bad, because I'm like, well, if I don't get it now, I can't buy it until my next shipment.

Speaker 1:
[16:22] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[16:23] Anyway, so I did not get anything from the Christopher John Rogers Old Navy Club, but I thought about it.

Speaker 1:
[16:30] I browse it as well. It was nice. I liked it. Old Navy's doing great. We love Old Navy.

Speaker 2:
[16:36] Victoria Beckham, it seems like you're doing fine to good. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[16:43] Devil Wears Prada creeps ever closer. The world premiere was last night in New York. My Food News co-host, David Jacoby, attended.

Speaker 2:
[16:52] Oh my gosh. I'm so jealous, but I also don't want to know his review. Jacoby, I love you, don't say anything.

Speaker 1:
[16:59] I know a second person, Maggie Schmarin, who also attended.

Speaker 2:
[17:02] That's exciting.

Speaker 1:
[17:04] Yes. So the people are out there.

Speaker 2:
[17:06] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[17:06] They're seeing the movie. The stars are out there. And there's a lot to discuss with this rollout, particularly you brought this to my attention via our rundown. There is a fake online issue of Runway Magazine available. It's a fake print issue. Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[17:25] This is the prop. This is why I was a little late. I got this in Cinemacon. So this is Runway, the magazine, which has been made and I don't know how it's available. Is it also online?

Speaker 1:
[17:38] Yeah. I read it online. Great. Is there a United ad in that?

Speaker 2:
[17:42] I'm sure that there is because there is a whole partner directory here. And I would say this is 95% SponCon, as in the ads are honestly the best content because they...

Speaker 1:
[17:58] Because actual creative work went into it.

Speaker 2:
[18:00] Well, and also the advertisers were challenged to use Devil Wears Prada references. So we have...

Speaker 1:
[18:06] Great time for me to show off my Coke Zero that I've been wanting to open.

Speaker 2:
[18:09] We have Diet Coke and Diet, you know, I'm not really sure. Tough call. They're so different, which is obviously a Devil Wears Prada reference to the Cerulean belts. But I don't actually understand what this is, what's different about them ones in a can, one's not. Anyway, so...

Speaker 1:
[18:28] Oh, I can tell you.

Speaker 2:
[18:29] Go ahead.

Speaker 1:
[18:30] People who drink Diet Coke like it very specifically. They like it from the fountain, they like it from the bottle, they like it from a can. I think one of those is a can, one's a fountain. And so it's a commentary on the Diet Coke cult.

Speaker 2:
[18:41] I do much prefer fountain, which I know is... Which is controversial to you.

Speaker 1:
[18:46] You're a tribe. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[18:48] You like the plastic bottle, which I think is...

Speaker 1:
[18:50] No, I like a can. As Jacoby says, it's only cans for me.

Speaker 2:
[18:54] Okay, got it.

Speaker 1:
[18:55] Instead of only fans, only cans.

Speaker 2:
[18:56] Only cans. Okay, got it. That's funny. So, you know, here another partner, Grey Goose, sip at a glacial pace.

Speaker 1:
[19:05] Nice.

Speaker 2:
[19:05] By all means, move at a glacial pace. You know how that thrills me.

Speaker 1:
[19:08] Sure. Can you pull up the Tresemme ad?

Speaker 2:
[19:11] Sure. Yes. That one was not as creative.

Speaker 1:
[19:14] Well, do you know who's in the Tresemme ad? I was wondering if you clocked that. Do you know who that is?

Speaker 2:
[19:19] No. Who is this?

Speaker 1:
[19:20] That's Paige Sorbo from the co-host of the podcast, Giggly Squad, and formerly of Summer House. She's a Bravo person.

Speaker 2:
[19:28] I did not know about the Summer House to Giggly Squad connection. Giggly Squad is something that I've heard about, and I even heard someone say the words Giggly Squad out loud in Las Vegas. Oh, okay. Congratulations to them.

Speaker 1:
[19:42] That's probably because of Paige. Her co-host is Hannah Berner, who's a comedian, and Paige and Hannah were both original cast members of Summer House. They both have left.

Speaker 2:
[19:50] Well, Paige, your hair looks very nice in this and versatile.

Speaker 1:
[19:54] It's a big come up for Paige. That's why I wanted to call it out.

Speaker 2:
[19:56] Okay. It would seem to me that Trésame is just infringing on Arriba's copyright almost, but that's okay. I'm sure they had lawyers clear it. This is not that creative, but that's okay. Anyway, the point being that the ads themselves are much more creative than the quote unquote advertorial content. Well, the feature content that is really advertorial either for people in the movie or, I don't know. It's, you know, here we go. This is about Emily Charlton, aka Emily Blunt's character charting a new course at Dior, which I think is a plot point of the film.

Speaker 1:
[20:35] I did read this article online.

Speaker 2:
[20:36] Okay. Well, what did you learn?

Speaker 1:
[20:40] I learned that it seemed like the writer of the piece, Andy Sachs, played by Anne Hathaway, seems to be friendly with Emily based on this piece. And I actually found it had very little content compared to some of the other quote unquote features.

Speaker 2:
[20:52] Sure. So, maximalism reconsidered. What did you learn there? Yes.

Speaker 1:
[20:56] That one, I don't remember. There was another one that was like a duo. It was like showing a duo in their fashion.

Speaker 2:
[21:03] Sure. And that they dressed the same way.

Speaker 1:
[21:05] Yeah. The woman in it looked a lot like someone else on Bravo. So, I spent a lot of time wondering if it was her.

Speaker 2:
[21:10] By young emperors?

Speaker 1:
[21:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[21:12] So, these are probably the best photos.

Speaker 1:
[21:17] So, the thing that really came to mind for me with this is you frequently talk about how like this is for you, like Marvel is not for you, this is for you. This is the full Disney. It's pretty interesting to see Disney put all of its might behind this movie in this way. I kind of find it flattering, like for us. And also startling.

Speaker 2:
[21:41] I completely agree. And it's a little bit of, I don't, now that I have what I thought I wanted, I don't know if I want it. Sure. And I guess maybe I never wanted Marvel and fan culture in the way that it exists for people who like Marvel and fan culture. I experience, I'm obviously a fan of Devil Wears Prada. I would say I'm top 0.01% of people who loves this movie. I feel that I am a subject matter expert, but I don't want a lot of ads collated together in a glossy magazine necessarily.

Speaker 1:
[22:25] Totally. But on the flip side, it's like exciting that Disney was like, this is worth it, let's spend the money.

Speaker 2:
[22:31] Totally. Because to me, that means at least that maybe they also think it's worth it to spend the money on the movie itself.

Speaker 1:
[22:39] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[22:39] Again, I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know. Also, it means that they sense enough other people who care about it in some way that it's money making opportunity. I guess once you're in that club and once a large business, a large corporation like Disney sees you as profitable, then you can do more stuff.

Speaker 1:
[23:02] I think also the four stars from the original movie who are now in the second one, Anne Hathaway, Meryl Streep, Emily Blunt, Stanley Tucci, they're all uncontroversial in that they're great, almost universal approval, pretty interesting. It's funny seeing Emily Blunt and Stanley Tucci on stage together since they are in-laws. He married her sister, I believe, she introduced them through the first movie. It's just like, this whole thing is nice, but again, it's also startling and like thank you, thank you, but no thank you. It's like a huge party being thrown for you that you don't really want to attend.

Speaker 2:
[23:40] Right. Some of it is what we were talking about last week with the, was it last week, the Vogue cover with Meryl Streep and Anna Wintour?

Speaker 1:
[23:48] It was two weeks ago, maybe it was last week, who can say?

Speaker 2:
[23:51] Anyway, and the difference between Anna Wintour's Vogue and Chloe Mao's Vogue, and the difference between the reception of the original Devil Wears Prada and the interaction between that Vogue and Devil Wears Prada and this one where Vogue and vogue.com are like balls to the wall. Everything that they are doing is this movie is going to be a money making opportunity for us and a real boost to our brand at a time when we need it. I think it's really savvy. I've clicked through some of the things, especially they're leading into some of the high fashion stuff in a way, and the original book in a way that is smart. They're targeting all the different kinds of audiences. But there is something about the vogue as it is portrayed in the original movie, and as Anna ran it, and the themes of the movie itself, and one of the themes that the Andy character is chafing against, it's like exclusivity. Everybody wants to be us, where by definition, everybody is not us. This is a real big tent now. So it's kind of funny, and I'm like, I don't know whether I'm happy for Paige Disorbo of Giggly Squad, my new best friend, but do I need to trace some ad for Paige Disorbo? Is that part of my movie going content? I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[25:25] I was surprised to see her. It's interesting also what's coming out. Did you see that there was a stray story in the last day or so about Sidney Sweeney's cameo getting cut from the movie?

Speaker 2:
[25:36] I did, but I didn't click through because again, I just need to see the movie. At some point, we're spoiling the movie, which is another interesting part of this, right? Where now Devil Wears Prada exists outside of the movie, which is the sign of big business and the sign of things doing well. There is for all major event movies, which is what the industry is built on now, it is like a whole amusement park and a world that you can experience without buying a ticket, which is counterintuitive. But I'm at a point where I want to just see the movie. So don't tell me, except was it because Sydney Sweeney was not deemed like?

Speaker 1:
[26:19] I think it was just like something that got cut. It was like things get cut all the time.

Speaker 2:
[26:23] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[26:24] I just thought I noted it because it seems like there's a concerted, I don't know how deep, but some concerted effort to take down Sydney Sweeney right now.

Speaker 2:
[26:33] Well, she's sort of, I think after the whole Jeans thing, which you were on leave for.

Speaker 1:
[26:39] Yeah. So I remember, though.

Speaker 2:
[26:41] I was hoping that you just took a break from that.

Speaker 1:
[26:44] Well, I just think it's interesting that like her, the fact that she and Zendaya don't like each other was like a talking point coming out of the Euphoria premiere. And I don't watch Euphoria, but I'm sort of only taking in the chatter at a surface level. There's a lot of conversation about how her plot point, her plot line doesn't work. There's the whole anti-Sydney Sweeney movement making it into the pages of Page Six. And I'm not really a Sydney Sweeney fan, so I'm not here to defend her, but I'm just sort of noting it, of like, oh, this is happening right now.

Speaker 2:
[27:16] Yes, I think so. I think some of it is, she's sort of MAGA-coded and has been hinting at that for many years. So there's a response to that. She's now publicly dating Scooter Braun, which is sort of interesting. You know, and so he brings a lot of associations.

Speaker 1:
[27:32] And in this Bieber moment, he's like definitely a villain.

Speaker 2:
[27:35] So it's sort of like a Blake Lively, like people are waiting for their moment.

Speaker 1:
[27:41] Yes, totally.

Speaker 2:
[27:42] I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1:
[27:44] I didn't have to have a note that Sidney Sweeney got cut. I bet other people got cut too, but that's the only one that I'm currently aware of having not seen the movie. So anyway, two weeks to go, two weeks-ish. You'll be seeing it next Monday.

Speaker 2:
[27:57] My sweatshirt shipped.

Speaker 1:
[27:58] Oh, great. Yeah. Awesome.

Speaker 2:
[28:01] You're not approved yet for the screening?

Speaker 1:
[28:03] No, I emailed again this morning.

Speaker 2:
[28:04] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[28:05] I'll keep you posted.

Speaker 2:
[28:06] Yeah, please do. Our friend Molly is coming with me to the screening on the 27th, which is very exciting. We've planned my family's entire life, and we did family planning last night with the calendars.

Speaker 1:
[28:24] Cool.

Speaker 2:
[28:24] And this is on the calendar, and like Zach literally had to change his work plans around my ability to see Devil Wears Prada 2. So it's happening. I'm excited. I'm also probably going to be devastated, but it's okay. I will be honest, and I will go with an open heart.

Speaker 1:
[28:41] Great. I look forward to your review. I hope to see it on the same day as you.

Speaker 2:
[28:45] I hope so, too.

Speaker 1:
[28:48] Okay. Let's move on to Rihanna and her daughter, Rocki, being on the cover of W Magazine. I don't frequently read W Magazine, but when they want to make an impact, they really do with their parties. And now with this. Pretty cool. Baby Rocki. Incredibly cute. She's wearing a Dior diaper on the cover. It's noted several times. Notably about this issue, it's the pop issue. Like, actually, like, it's almost hard to figure out who else is in this issue, because it's so focused on Rihanna and W magazine.com.

Speaker 2:
[29:23] Right.

Speaker 1:
[29:24] Rihanna, which is fine. Who else matters? Rihanna does not speak to W Magazine. It's really cool photos. Like, it's really worth scrolling through to look at all the photos. They have a real, like, Versailles at night feeling to them.

Speaker 2:
[29:38] Photographs are by Tim Walker, and she's styled by Jaleel Weaver, just to give people.

Speaker 1:
[29:45] They it's really cool. It's very French feeling. It's very theatrical and dramatic. And there's just a lot of quotes from other people about Rihanna, including A$AP Rocky, which is pretty interesting. I couldn't tell how much of this was like, I have an opportunity to talk to this person, so I'll also stick in a Rihanna question. And how much of it was like specifically for this piece. You might have a better sense of that than I, but pretty interesting positioning from Rihanna and A$AP Rocky. Rocky says they're partners basically on everything. To kind of like have her and Rocky be in the pictures. Rocky's really only in one photo, the rest is just Rihanna. And have him like give quotes. And so I was like, was this specifically for this piece? I would be surprised, but maybe. It's just an interesting positioning.

Speaker 2:
[30:34] So to your point about how this was done, it's, I don't know. I do read W Magazine. It's actually one of the best Instagram follows, I think, because it's kind of what Vogue used to be before Vogue WED.

Speaker 1:
[30:48] Sure. I follow it too. And the person who runs it, Sarah Moonves.

Speaker 2:
[30:53] Yes. Sarah Moonves is very good at her job at making interesting photos and having parties. I have been to the Golden Globes Party a couple of times. It's intimidatingly fun because of the number of celebrities. And then they also have the Lynn Hershberg video series, which you often see memed of people, black and white, and a lot of celebrities being asked fun questions. Kind of like original YouTube content.

Speaker 1:
[31:22] Yeah. I think they also have celebrities read the lyrics to a pop song. So like this year they did Man Child.

Speaker 2:
[31:26] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[31:27] And it was like a compilation. It's very fun.

Speaker 2:
[31:30] So.

Speaker 1:
[31:31] Did you award Susan Wright?

Speaker 2:
[31:32] So that said, I'm a fan of W Magazine, but I am not privy to its interworking. So I don't know. It's presented sort of as an oral history.

Speaker 1:
[31:40] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[31:40] And I think you're right that either that some quotes were saved. I don't even know if these quotes are all new or whether some of them are compiled from other quotes from, you know, from other interviews, whether to your point they were interviewing, say, Sarah Paulson for something else or Jonah Hill for something else and just saved this snippet. You know, in this format, emails also work, so some of these could be emailed. But this is not the first time that Rihanna has done something visually without doing an interview, I think.

Speaker 1:
[32:16] I believe that's correct.

Speaker 2:
[32:17] I think that she just doesn't always want to do interviews anymore. And she's Rihanna.

Speaker 1:
[32:23] I would say she almost never wants to.

Speaker 2:
[32:25] The last one I remember is when she did interview with Mel Ottenberg, the editor-in-chief of Interview.

Speaker 1:
[32:30] Magazine.

Speaker 2:
[32:31] He was also briefly in the Charlie XCX movie The Moment and Very Funny. And he asks her something and then pauses. And she says, I know the trick that you're doing where you don't say anything for a while and you wait for me to fill the space and I'm not going to. So Rihanna is a pro. She really knows what's up and she also has the ability to be like, I don't want to talk. I think the photos are really cool and that seems to be, I mean, she is very interested in fashion and also like image making as an artist and she has a great eye. And I know she is always, quote, collaborative on the shoots that she does. That's another way of saying that she gets what she wants and has approval in a way that many, most artists don't, but she's really good at it. So, and I don't know, cute baby. One of the other little boys, one of them also wore Dior, like new Jonathan Anderson Dior. He wore the little coat and it was really cute. So, must be nice to be them.

Speaker 1:
[33:36] I enjoyed just browsing through this. The idea, I feel like for me, well, Ringer has Instagram activity, I feel like is legendary. Particularly because she reaches out to so many Real Housewives and other Bravo people. But since she doesn't talk that much and she hasn't made music in a while, she's like an idea in many ways more than anything else. Like, you know, obviously has her makeup and the clothes and the Pumas. But like, as a star, like a celebrity, she has like a bigger place in the imagination than like anything else in a lot of ways, which I think is by design, right? It's like why you do a piece in this fashion, no pun intended. And it's pretty amazing. Like she's really one of one and it's no surprise that she's like an icon to so many people.

Speaker 2:
[34:20] I mean, this is also something that Beyoncé started doing at some point where I remember like the email Vogue interview and Beyoncé really uses her Instagram to like put images forward and then not say that much unless it's what she wants to say. I think you...

Speaker 1:
[34:37] Unless it's the three hours of the Renaissance movie.

Speaker 2:
[34:40] Well, yeah, but that was, that's a concert. That's...

Speaker 1:
[34:43] Sure, it's good, but she talks a lot. I guess my point is just Rihanna's not even done that, right? Like she might be filming herself for the last six years, but like we have two Beyoncé self-produced documentaries.

Speaker 2:
[34:54] It's true. It's different variations of control. And then there's the Taylor Swift playbook, which is I film and tell you everything, but I mediate everything. So...

Speaker 1:
[35:04] Yes, exactly. So she's like... It's almost like Beyoncé's in the middle of those two in a way.

Speaker 2:
[35:09] Anyway, I don't know. It seems like it's nice to be Rihanna.

Speaker 1:
[35:12] Yeah, seems really great.

Speaker 2:
[35:14] Except for, you know, she was... There was like a security incident in her home recently, which was very scary and that seems scary and possibly also has something to do with what she does and does not put out into the world. But, you know, she's still doing this. She's been back out in public. She seems great. So I hope they're safe and I'm a fan.

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Speaker 1:
[37:22] Let's move on to talk about Meghan Trainor, who was rumored to be a member of the Toxic Mom group.

Speaker 2:
[37:26] Right.

Speaker 1:
[37:27] Amanda, are you aware that Meghan Trainor just canceled her tour?

Speaker 4:
[37:30] She did.

Speaker 2:
[37:30] She canceled her tour after this interview.

Speaker 1:
[37:33] Yes, she did an interview because an album came out, and she's about to go on tour.

Speaker 4:
[37:37] Right.

Speaker 2:
[37:38] She's on the cover of Us Weekly.

Speaker 1:
[37:40] Yes. It's kind of crazy that the All About That Bass woman is this famous, but it's a catchy song. She has many catchy songs. So she was asked about the Toxic Mom group.

Speaker 2:
[37:53] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[37:54] And she basically... Her quote's really funny. Let me pull it up.

Speaker 2:
[38:01] Yeah, just read it. I'll read it.

Speaker 1:
[38:03] Please, go for it.

Speaker 2:
[38:04] So the question, and the full question is printed here, or at least a version of it. You got pulled into the viral mom group saga after Ashley Tisdell's essay in The Cut. What was that like? Here's Meghan Trainor's response. It's quite long, but I'll do this one to the can. I was a bad mom friend. I never went. They had so many events. They were awesome and always there for each other. There was a group chat, but eventually they started a group chat without me because I wasn't there, dot, dot, dot, and that was totally fine. So the dot, dot, dot, Elide suggests that some things were cut out.

Speaker 1:
[38:38] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[38:39] Explaining her feelings about the second group chat. But she's on the record and that was totally fine. I didn't feel bad. The last time I saw them was like a year ago and I brought them to dinner and paid for it because I was like, I'm so sorry that I'm just not present.

Speaker 1:
[38:54] What a flex.

Speaker 2:
[38:55] Also, then to include it, then to tell Us Weekly for your Us Weekly cover. Then that story popped up and I was like, what? I saw my face everywhere and wait a second, I'm not even there. I saw a TikTok where they were like, well, everyone hates Meghan Trainor right now, so I bet she was the mean one. I was like, don't worry, guys. But some moms in that group don't want to be famous and never wanted attention. It was really hard for a lot of moms and I felt so bad. I felt bad for Ashley that she was ever sad. I think it was just a lot of miscommunication and confusion. I don't really know what happened, but I wish them all the best.

Speaker 1:
[39:34] Hell yeah, we wish them well.

Speaker 2:
[39:35] Yes. Then there's some more. So this seems like a way more normal response to being maybe cut out of the mom group. In your opinion, was Meghan Trainor cut out of the mom group?

Speaker 1:
[39:55] Yes. I think she was.

Speaker 2:
[39:57] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[39:58] I think that Meghan Trainor might think it was justified because she was quote, never there.

Speaker 2:
[40:03] Right. She took the high road.

Speaker 1:
[40:05] Yeah. She took the high road and then reminded them how rich she is by taking them all out for dinner. Yeah. That's great. The high road comes to the free meal. I'd love to be on the high road.

Speaker 2:
[40:15] Yeah. This reminds me, just speaking of the mom group, Hilary Duff was on yet another really high profile talk show, and I just, once again, I'd like-

Speaker 1:
[40:29] You're just catching up.

Speaker 2:
[40:31] No, no, no. But I wish I'd understood when the first essay came out, the power dynamics at play here, because I would have put Mandy Moore much high as the most famous person, and she might be third after Hilary Duff, Meghan Trainor and then Mandy Moore, and I just didn't understand what Ashley Tisdale was going up against. I think I'm speaking for a lot of people, so maybe I'm not.

Speaker 1:
[41:01] I'm just thinking about if I think Meghan Trainor or Mandy Moore is more famous. Here in 2026, the year of our Lord.

Speaker 2:
[41:07] Mandy Moore used to be on network TV. She's going to be on a Nate Bargatze movie, but like as the Nate Bargatze, you guys know who I'm talking about. But she's like the mob.

Speaker 1:
[41:18] It's a great question. I don't know who's more famous. I'm going to look into that. It might be Meghan Trainor. But yeah, Hilary Duff is like a heavyweight. So also Hilary Duff's husband coming at you is like a henchman, you know, from The Queen.

Speaker 2:
[41:32] Right. So. So.

Speaker 1:
[41:35] And Hilary Duff is not just more famous. She's like people really like her. Like people are on board of this Hilary Duff revival. So.

Speaker 2:
[41:42] I do see that. So I kind of wish that I could go back. There's this question we get a lot of the big picture of like, if you could go back and watch one movie for the first time, like you've never seen it, you don't know anything, have that experience, what would it be? I kind of want to go back and re-experience Ashley Tisdale's essay for the first time, knowing what I know now about Hillary Duff. I don't know how much that it would change it because, while I understand Hillary Duff's significance in the world, she will never be that significant to me. I will always be slightly bemused. But I do wonder whether I would feel differently about Ashley Tisdale if I went in with that knowledge.

Speaker 1:
[42:29] I just think that Ashley Tisdale is a tryhard who didn't ever quite make it. She's just not at the Hillary Duff level. So that...

Speaker 2:
[42:37] Sure. But what is the Hillary Duff level? And your understanding of what that means is layered and...

Speaker 1:
[42:45] And ever changing. The understanding is ever changing.

Speaker 2:
[42:49] Right.

Speaker 1:
[42:50] Well, I hope that Meghan Trainor feels better. She needs to rest. That's why she had a camp on her tour. I do as well. You know what? Good job handling being cut out of the group. Sounds like a vicious group.

Speaker 2:
[42:59] I mean, that's the other thing. It does sound a little vicious, right?

Speaker 1:
[43:02] Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2:
[43:04] And understanding that Hillary Duff is more powerful and also that vicious.

Speaker 1:
[43:10] Also, you cited sitting down with your calendars. It's hard to really have recurring events when you have children. How do these moms make it happen? There's so many events that Meghan Trainor even missed.

Speaker 2:
[43:21] I really don't know. And I know that some of them live on opposite sides of the city. So getting a... It seems tough. Good luck.

Speaker 1:
[43:29] Next, Sandra Bullock. She joined Instagram last week. She teased that something was coming. Did you know what it was going to be when you saw that she joined Instagram?

Speaker 2:
[43:40] I did because she and Nicole Kidman came to CinemaCon to present the Practical Magic 2 trailer.

Speaker 1:
[43:49] And that's why she joined, to promote the trailer.

Speaker 2:
[43:52] So I saw the trailer last week with Sandy and Nicole.

Speaker 1:
[43:57] Cool. How did they look in person?

Speaker 2:
[43:59] They looked great. They had a very peculiar but funny energy. Nicole has been quite daffy in her public appearances of late. And she was really going into that. But they had a good repartee. Sandra Bullock cued up Nicole Kidman's We Come To This Place For Magic, which obviously, if you're promoting Practical Magic 2, it works. It was also, again, a convention of theater owners. So really, really playing to the crowd. Yeah, they look amazing. They, I will say, and I don't know whether you felt this in the trailer, but on the big screen, I began to wonder what kind of filters they're using and whether I can get them for my own life. They're probably more expensive. But yeah, it was great to have her back. I'm not a huge Practical Magic person, but I'm not either. Jade is raising her hand. Oh, you're not raising your hand. You were just scratching. I thought Jade was like very excited in the corner that she was in the Practical Magic. Okay, but it was nice to have them.

Speaker 1:
[45:08] Sandra Bullock's like incredibly important to me.

Speaker 2:
[45:10] I know, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:11] Do you think she's happy? I just like really need to know that Sandra Bullock leads a happy life. She's had a lot of hard stuff, honestly.

Speaker 2:
[45:19] She has.

Speaker 1:
[45:20] But I'm just like, I feel myself tensing up and like nearing tears wondering if Sandra Bullock is having a happy life. I really want her to be happy.

Speaker 2:
[45:30] I mean, she's experienced loss and heartbreak.

Speaker 1:
[45:34] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[45:35] But I think also...

Speaker 1:
[45:37] She's still Sandra Bullock.

Speaker 2:
[45:38] She's Sandra Bullock. She's lived a full life. She has an Oscar. She has children.

Speaker 1:
[45:44] For a movie that is very maligned, probably rightfully so.

Speaker 2:
[45:47] Yeah. They made a joke because they came out and there was a lot of smoke, you know, the smoke effects where they walked on. She was like, that's what happens when I leave for drop off every day. So, you know, she has a great home life. I think the fact that we don't see her that much...

Speaker 1:
[46:02] Yeah, she's always been very proud.

Speaker 2:
[46:03] Yeah, it means that she's doing her own stuff. You know, life has its ups and downs, but...

Speaker 1:
[46:09] What's your favorite Sandra Bullock movie?

Speaker 2:
[46:11] Um, probably Two Weeks Notice, I'm sorry to say.

Speaker 1:
[46:15] Oh, my God, I love Two Weeks Notice. The only problem with it is that Donald Trump's in it.

Speaker 2:
[46:18] I know, and we could cut it out. It's not material to the plot.

Speaker 1:
[46:21] Totally. It could go.

Speaker 2:
[46:23] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[46:23] I own that DVD. I think it's in my house on Cape Cod.

Speaker 2:
[46:26] You own the DVD because Sean Fantasy, the king of owning DVDs and Blu-rays, said yesterday, we talked about it on a picture, and he does not own it.

Speaker 1:
[46:37] Well, I have it. I will send a picture. I love Two Weeks to Notice so deeply, but of course, it's While You Were Sleeping for me, which was one of the first COVID-era rewatchables. Check it out, everybody. I love her, like, in a sort of psychotic way. I must have, like, really attached to her movies at a time in life where I needed something to strive for. I also think that her role as Gracie in Miss Congeniality and Miss Congeniality 2, but really the first one, impacted me so deeply. And her, you know, I'm often thinking to myself as I walk the streets of New York, she's beauty and she's grace. She's Miss United States. Like, it's just she's one in a million. Like, what a great movie. I don't know. Her work means more to me than I think almost any other actress.

Speaker 2:
[47:27] We don't talk enough about Miss Congeniality. I agree with that. Just a crowd pleaser. We do talk enough about Speed, but she's obviously wonderful in Speed.

Speaker 1:
[47:37] Speed's great. Yeah. Speed's great.

Speaker 2:
[47:39] You know, and you need the crossover appeal. I'm a huge fan. I hope that she enjoyed making Practical Magic 2, and I hope they do a big press tour. It was, again, it was kind of kooky, and they were part of the Warner Brothers presentation, which just gives people too much time to talk. You know, limits are good, but I think that they'll, they would do a good press tour.

Speaker 1:
[48:03] I'm just double checking something here.

Speaker 2:
[48:04] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[48:05] Am I right in recalling that she's never done a TV show?

Speaker 2:
[48:10] Probably.

Speaker 1:
[48:10] I believe I'm correct.

Speaker 2:
[48:11] She's one of the holdouts.

Speaker 1:
[48:13] One of the only.

Speaker 2:
[48:15] Well.

Speaker 1:
[48:15] One of the only. How amazing is that?

Speaker 2:
[48:17] I think that she made a lot of money when movie stars did that, and then she's been living her life, as we discussed.

Speaker 1:
[48:27] I've been moved to tears a lot on Jam Session lately. I didn't expect Sandra Bullock to do it for me. That's beautiful. I'm close to it. Not quite crying. I love my girl. I'm happy she's on Instagram. That was an immediate follow. Okay, Amanda.

Speaker 2:
[48:41] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[48:42] Can you tell us what the Breakthrough Prize is and why there was pictures of celebrities attending the Breakthrough Prize ceremony?

Speaker 2:
[48:49] I finally Googled this because it was an incredibly heavyweight list of celebrities over the age of 35 that showed up to this event that rang a bell, but for a while I thought was Prince William's, you know, Earthshot Prize. But you know, Earthshot Breakthrough, I wasn't totally sure. But this was an A-list group of people, right? Anne Hathaway, Gigi Hadid, Salma Hayek, Naomi Watts, Ben Affleck, Oscar Isaac, Lily Collins, Robert Downey Jr. and his wife, Sarah Sultan, Jessica Chastain, Olivia Wilde, Zoe Saldana, John Legend, Chrissy Teigen, Michelle Williams, Michelle Yeoh, Christina Aguilera, you know, like I'll just keep going.

Speaker 1:
[49:34] Oscar nominees only, honestly.

Speaker 2:
[49:37] Truly. So a lot of notable people, I think to the point that one of the Instagram accounts that I followed that was just posting carpet photos was like, oh wait, we have even more. It had like an elder millennial Met Gala vibe to it, at least in terms of the caliber of people, if not the fashion. Anyway, so I finally Googled the Breakthrough Prize and it is their science-based awards and they've co-founded by Sergey Brin, Priscilla Chan and Mark Zuckerberg, Yuri and Julie Milner and Anne Wojcicki. So it's Silicon Valley Nobel Prize basically, right? Which is the Nobel Prize, as we all know, was founded by Alfred Nobel, who I believe invented dynamite. So as a way to highlight maybe some good in the world instead. So that seems like what's happening here. I hope they had a nice time. I believe in science, so it's better.

Speaker 1:
[50:41] Was this in Los Angeles? It must have been at this guest list.

Speaker 2:
[50:44] It was. It was in Santa Monica.

Speaker 1:
[50:46] Okay. Checks out.

Speaker 2:
[50:48] So now you have a list of all of the Hollywood people who will show up to support the Silicon Valley greats and science. Sam Altman was there.

Speaker 1:
[51:00] Do a Control-F for Andrew Taggart. Do you know who that is on a visual assessment?

Speaker 2:
[51:05] Yes, he was here.

Speaker 1:
[51:07] Do you know who it is, though?

Speaker 2:
[51:08] No, I don't. Who is that?

Speaker 1:
[51:09] He's one of the chain smokers. Can't believe he got invited.

Speaker 2:
[51:12] Wow. Congratulations to him. And Bill Gates was there.

Speaker 1:
[51:18] Cool.

Speaker 2:
[51:18] Listen.

Speaker 1:
[51:19] I didn't know he was going outside these days. That's cool.

Speaker 2:
[51:22] Apparently, they were willing to have him. Like, everyone was there. I guess...

Speaker 1:
[51:27] Incredible.

Speaker 2:
[51:28] I guess everyone needs Silicon Valley money, including science, which is where I'd prefer that it go.

Speaker 1:
[51:33] That's true. Yeah, like, focus on that, guys. All right. Feedback and follow up. Recently, we were lamenting not knowing what to wear on our bottom halves, below the waist. Um, unlike Sabrina Carpenter, we were looking to wear pants or maybe shorts, not hot pants or tiny shorts, but regular people's clothes. And thanks to Citizens of Humanity, we both got some new stuff. And I just wanted to say thank you so much to them because I'm wearing jeans today that I never would have picked out for myself, and they suggested to me, the Nora and Benson. It's a trouser jean. It's not very high waisted, which is my first time not wearing very high waisted jeans in literally years. And I feel like a million bucks. Like thank you so much for the suggestion, Citizens of Humanity.

Speaker 2:
[52:22] I am also wearing a pair of jeans today that we were said. So these are A-Gold because I had forgotten that A-Gold is part of the Citizens of Humanity brand. And I'm a longtime wearer and recommender of the A-Gold Parker long short. That's my preferred denim short. Cool. So now I'm wearing the 80s jeans that they recommended to me. And as I was walking out, my husband said, You look nice. So there you go.

Speaker 1:
[52:49] Nice.

Speaker 2:
[52:50] That's all you can ask for in life. No, they were great. And I wore a different pair that they sent all Sunday with my kids. And that was, I can't remember the name. I'll post it.

Speaker 1:
[53:01] But it's the nor- it's the Mori. I mean, sorry, Miro.

Speaker 2:
[53:05] The Miro in almond- in almondette. Anyway, it was like a neutral gene. And my four-year-old got taco all over it. And I was able to spot clean it and go on with my day. So it was great. I feel very put together. Thank you to them. Me too.

Speaker 1:
[53:21] I know. I, as I alluded to earlier, I'm not even sure like what I want to be. I don't have a vision for myself. So I really appreciated someone else suggesting a vision. And kudos to me for going with it. And here I am. I'm happy. So I really appreciate it. I feel great.

Speaker 2:
[53:37] I also would not have picked out these jeans that I'm wearing, but they suggested them. And I was like, okay, I'll go with it. And they don't touch my legs, which feels nice. You know, I don't want that in the summer. But they still don't look slouchy. So I'm pleased. Thank you to them. Thank you. Thank you to people for suggesting things.

Speaker 1:
[53:58] Okay, lastly, I want to share with you that I was desiring to go to a 9 a.m. movie in general. I think I may have said that I was considering playing hooky to see Project Hail Mary during the workday. Was I not?

Speaker 2:
[54:14] If you didn't, I'm glad you're saying it now because I encourage this behavior.

Speaker 1:
[54:18] Well, on Sunday, my parents babysat, and so I, Sunday morning, and so I went to see Project Hail Mary at 9:15 a.m. at the movie theaters. In one of the theaters where it has the full plush reclining seat. And I brought in a coffee.

Speaker 2:
[54:36] Beautiful.

Speaker 1:
[54:36] It was not given a hard time. And it was great. I had a great time at the movies. I arrived too early because I hadn't left my house on my own on a weekend in so long that I forgot what that's like. And it was great. I just had a delightful time at the movies. I just wanted to let you know that I did it.

Speaker 2:
[54:54] Did you enjoy the movie itself?

Speaker 1:
[54:56] I did. Yeah. Who doesn't want to spend two and a half hours with Ryan Gosling pretending to be smart? He might be smart, but like playing a scientist.

Speaker 2:
[55:04] I think he was smart. I think he did a good job explaining the science. That's great. I'm excited for you.

Speaker 1:
[55:11] I had a good time. Yeah. The song Pada Pada by Miriam Makeba is in that movie. And that song is incredibly important to me and everyone who went to Camp Walt Whitman. So that was a pretty exciting moment. That was huge. And yeah, I mean, I don't know, like what is there to say about Ryan Gosling that hasn't been said. I certainly have nothing new to add. He's very great.

Speaker 2:
[55:33] Those glasses are really good. They had me wondering whether I should get like non-rimmed glasses. And then I was like, I'm not Ryan Gosling.

Speaker 1:
[55:41] I am a proud owner and wearer of low top cream colored Converse. So that was exciting for me.

Speaker 2:
[55:48] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[55:50] His sweater reminded me of Chris Evans in the First Knives Out movie. It's just sort of pantheon of great white sweaters. So yeah, just great, great time. And the movies were great. I hope to see more in 2026.

Speaker 2:
[56:03] I hope that as well. I hope that you get confirmed for Devil Wears Prada. My personal feedback and follow up is just, I just realized how bad my posture was throughout this podcast. I checked it.

Speaker 1:
[56:13] Mine's bad every week. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2:
[56:14] At the first 10 seconds. And then I wasn't sitting up again. So I'm going to try to close it out here with something positive, engage the core. I apologize to everyone. You know, I'm a work in progress, just just like everybody else.

Speaker 1:
[56:29] On that note, thank you to our producer today, Jade Whaley. We'll be back next week.

Speaker 5:
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