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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Three more episodes, dude. We got through the season, now we just got the reunion, and then we can put this show to bed for hopefully a year, probably like six or seven months.

Speaker 2:
[00:12] What a boring show. This was your season finale? Like, God. And not that I expected anything differently, but just do something for us, please. Like, we have to watch. Like, do something for us, come on.

Speaker 3:
[00:25] As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos.

Speaker 1:
[00:29] Oh, man, it's 8 o'clock.

Speaker 4:
[00:30] And so that'll make it a f*****g...

Speaker 5:
[00:35] I don't need the spotlight.

Speaker 6:
[00:37] I shine just fine.

Speaker 7:
[00:39] Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch.

Speaker 2:
[00:43] BravBros.

Speaker 1:
[00:44] Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of BravBros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I'm your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by season finale Magoots. What's up, dude? I wish I could say series finale, but it's not.

Speaker 2:
[01:03] Well, I mean, I'm sick. And who doesn't want to watch Beverly Hills when they're sick, you know? Just got to do all that. You know what's funny though? I'm going to take the beginning of this episode to talk about something completely different because I don't care about Beverly Hills. So yesterday, Sunday, I was sick and just like kind of laying around, wanted something to watch. I ended up watching like most of Vanderpump Villa, a fantastic show. Still going to bitch about Hulu just dropping every episode in one drop because nobody's going to talk about it in two weeks. But so I watched that and then you know what I watched? The first two episodes of Beyond the Villa and Lord, oh Lord, let me tell you how much I do not care about those people.

Speaker 1:
[01:46] Oh, really? Oh, for Love Island.

Speaker 2:
[01:50] It's the cast of Love Island last year except for the heavy hitters. There's no Nick, no Alandria, no Ace, no Shelly, Austin might be in it at some point. It looks like he's in it for an episode or two. It's all the rejects. It's all the people we don't care about and we're supposed to really care about. I guess TJ and Iris becoming boyfriend and girlfriend, it was beyond me. I like to be an informed hater. So if I'm going to hate on something, I'm not just going to sit here and say, I'm not going to watch it. I watched it. I don't think I'm ever going to watch another episode. I don't know what possessed them to go ahead and just greenlight this show this season. Because oh my God, no one should care about this.

Speaker 1:
[02:32] People wouldn't greenlight it for a second season if people weren't watching it.

Speaker 2:
[02:37] Well, I think people watched the first. The first season came about because there was such a good buzz about that group from season six. I think it was of Love Island. And they had most of those people, like most of the people, like the fan favorites, were on that show. Like Leah and Miguel were on it for a good piece of it. So like it made sense. And then when you get the cast for the show, it's like, oh, cool, the people that really like, if they had Nick and Landry, it's like, all right, sure. Like, let's see what's going on in their life. I don't care about anybody else. The whole point of Love Island is, you have your four or five weeks or whatever in the sun and in the public eye, and then you just kind of go away. Like, we don't care about you. And one or two, sure. You're entertaining, you're exciting people. The rest of you, I never need to see you again.

Speaker 1:
[03:22] Yeah, I was done after the season finale. That was good. Good on them. I'm excited for this year. I'm excited to see what they amend and correct from last season. I'm hoping we don't pull micro-influencers again, trying to make themselves famous. I hope we get some just straight up random hot people, but who knows?

Speaker 2:
[03:41] Yeah, maybe no racists this year. That could be cool.

Speaker 1:
[03:44] Ideally, no racists would be great. Something to shoot for, Peacock. But yeah, I am stoked for this season. It's a fun show. Like it's a fun show to cover. I mean, it's an absolute gauntlet to get through for us, but it is fun and it does suck you in.

Speaker 2:
[04:01] But yeah, it's nice for us especially like dog days of summer. Like yeah, we could watch the Phillies game or we could just kind of keep an eye on the Phillies score and then watch Love Island every night. So it's completely fine because it gives you something to watch every night that's going to be new and exciting. So it is set up like perfectly. It is just an absolute gauntlet for us because we have to record. I think we were doing it twice a week last year. We'll probably do something similar, but be on the lookout for that. When is that? July?

Speaker 1:
[04:28] It's coming up. We're getting closer. Getting closer. So make sure you hydrate. But yeah, back to Beverly Hills. I mean, what a finale. I don't mean that in a good way. Nothing happened. It was the same show that we've watched. This episode we have seen for two years. The same exact shit, same exact issues, same exact things going on. You see Kyle get all of her minions to kiss her foot while we're just teaming up on Dureet. Dureet at the same time is making this like such a bigger thing and is not giving an inch. I'm not saying she should give in, but she's just, it seems exaggerated and everything's played up. It was just a ridiculous 42 minutes of TV that I'll never get back. Let me do this, let me do this. If you don't like hate watches, go ahead and stop listening now. We love you, it's okay. We're not going to be mad at you for skipping this one, but don't get mad at us if you stick it out because we're going to shit on this show for about 40 minutes.

Speaker 2:
[05:36] Yeah, I think that's a good way to do it. One last time, although we might do it three more times. Let's be very honest, these reunion episodes are not going to be anything. Look, I've actually come around to the Watch What Happens Live being implemented because when I saw episode 31, I actually laughed because it does feel like we watched 31 episodes of this show and nothing has happened.

Speaker 1:
[06:00] That's fair. Actually, maybe that's why they did it, to make it seem more realistic. If it looks like there's 31 episodes, they'll understand. I don't know. Let's just jump in, rip the bandaid off, so to speak, and we pick up where we left off with Erika and Sutton. It's exactly what you think. I can't believe that we're still talking about this moment from Sutton. Fucking grow up. Rachel's party was a lot and the way Doreet spoke to me and treated me, she was on the dance floor and I interrupted her, and she said, I'm going to hate you forever. Really? What the fuck? How old are we? What is this? What are we talking about? We skipped Doreet's book party for this?

Speaker 2:
[06:51] She's being such a baby. I like if I could go back in time to when I really wanted Sutton and Erika to be friends because I thought that would have been a good like closed circle moment, I could not care less about this. Like this was such a bad showing, honestly from both of them. We talked about it last week. I was like, yeah, let's see what Erika's got. Maybe she's got one left in the chamber that she can... No, she doesn't. She's got the same shit that Kyle and Sutton have. So like, I don't know. This was such a let down moment because that was the last ditch effort. That was the last thing I was holding on to for some semblance of entertainment. And instead it was just more of the same. I'm like, really Sutton, grow up. You're being such a baby. And you accused Amanda of being a baby earlier in the season, she got upset. Now I'm thinking if somebody called you a baby in this moment, you would cry. Like, I don't know what the hell is going on. It's just so boring. It's so unbelievably boring. And it's just the same thing every episode. I just, I just can't ever understand how people enjoy the show.

Speaker 1:
[07:55] It could be worse. Could you imagine breaking a $40,000 anything for this show? Tilly broke her $40,000 Gucci purse for this.

Speaker 8:
[08:12] That's a travesty.

Speaker 1:
[08:13] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[08:15] I don't know. It was still a very funny moment, though. When she picked up the top off the floor and threw it into her mouth, it was the only good moment of the entire episode. I feel bad. The sacrificial, what was it? Bear. It was a bear purse. Sacrificial bear for the episode. Maybe things will turn around in the reunion. Maybe things will turn around next season because that bear just gave up its life for this. I don't know. That was really the only good moment of the entire episode like you said.

Speaker 1:
[08:38] Yeah. And her picking up the top like you said and saying, oh, my friend owns this place. I'm sure the carpets are clean.

Speaker 2:
[08:45] Cool.

Speaker 1:
[08:45] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[08:46] Drop in there. I love that.

Speaker 1:
[08:47] Thank you, Tilly, for a brief, brief reprieve from hell. But yeah, anyway, Sutton, Erika and Kyle obviously are not there. I guess Kyle's excuses that she's overwhelmed and just can't make it. Sutton, obviously, text her like 30 minutes into the party, which is a wild fucking move. Erika should have been there, okay? Like Erika should have been there, I think. I think it was too big of a statement because at the end of the day, I want people to remember what Dereed's going through currently. That seems to be thrown out the window. I'm not saying that she hasn't been on some shit this season too, but she's going through it. And we have not seen a lot of support. We've seen a lot of Kyle doing Kyle shit, people cosigning Kyle shit. And then Erika, I'm disappointed because this also feels like she bent the need of Kyle a little bit and not going.

Speaker 2:
[09:45] Well, that's what we didn't want to happen. That's what we wanted to avoid at all costs was Erika just standing on her own two feet. Like, hey, I've got a problem with you. I'm not going to show up to your party. I don't give a shit. Just say, I don't care. Instead, she spins it later in the episode into this. I wanted to get your attention. Like, why? Why are we doing this? This is so stupid. Honestly, all of them should have gone. If Kyle didn't show up, of course Kyle didn't show up. I wouldn't even bat an eye at that. Sutton, we talked about last week, like you should go because you should be there to have a conversation with Doreet. This is a good opportunity for you to have a normal conversation with Doreet. And she tries at the end of the episode and it was just embarrassing. But for this moment, like to not show up in the middle of all of this to support Doreet and all the things that she's going through to do your fucking job and show up at an event at the end of the season. That's one thing. Erika, very disappointed, extremely disappointed. And that's the reasoning why she didn't show up. Again, you could have stolen the spotlight if that's what you wanted to do. You would have gotten her attention more if you did show up and pulled her aside for a conversation before her big speech, like talk to her about your feelings and show us that you're not just doing this because Kyle wants you to do it. Like it's just it's brutal.

Speaker 1:
[10:56] Disappointing. It's just very, very disappointing. But we get back to Erika and Sutton. And like the fact that she didn't text or call, really like he could have at least like that's bare minimum, I think. And look, he wanted to get her attention. He didn't get her attention. You shut the door. Like attention would have been going, like you said, attention would have been calling her before and going, look, I'm not coming because you hurt me. Okay. That would have worked. Cold shouldering. She, I actually agree with Dorit. I don't think the punishment fits the crime. This is a big deal for her in the midst of a terrible divorce from a terrible human being. And not only that, you're going to go to confessional and you're going to say maybe PK wasn't wrong. I literally wrote, holy shit.

Speaker 2:
[11:45] That's a step too far. It's such a bad look. It's a brutal look. And again, I can't say it enough, like Erika not showing up and then not doing the, no text, no call, no show. For what? Like I don't really get it. And we referenced it later in the episode. All the things that you said to me at that dinner, shut up. Like you're being a baby too. They're all being fucking babies. Duret is allowed to fight back. I'm sorry. I'm not like pro Duret. I'm not, I need Duret to show up because she's the only one that's showing up. She is probably the only one that's showing up, but that's not a great look. She didn't do anything bad compared to what everybody else does. Honestly, Kyle meddling in her shit with other people is worse than what Duret did. Duret was reactive. Duret was sitting there and she had to what? Just take a beating from all of you because you're saying that she's not being a good friend through her own divorce. Is that where we are now? You could be nicer to me. I'm going through stuff. She's going through a divorce, a very public divorce with a terrible guy who's trying to screw her at every turn. She's still showing up and she's still showing up for the cameras, and she's still trying to have a storyline outside of that, and she's still trying to maintain friendships with other people who were supporting her. But you guys want to make it all about you. Kyle wants to make it all about her. Erika, again, I was hoping that she wasn't doing this, but she's trying to make it about her too. It's just embarrassing.

Speaker 1:
[13:00] If you really break it down, they're getting mad at her for going through something in a way that they don't want her to go through it. You're not downtrodden how we want you to be downtrodden, because they always reference that. We know you're going through a lot. You're not listening to any of us. Because of your approach, guys, it's not that hard to see. If you came from a friendly standpoint, rather than every single time you start talking, Kyle, you use the mob mentality. We're all talking about it, Doreen. Why the fuck would she be like, oh, okay, now I want to talk to you guys. Every time you talk to her, you tell her we've been talking a bunch of shit behind your back and we don't like the way that you're navigating your hard time.

Speaker 2:
[13:49] They're all just in the mirror getting ready for whatever event, pointing at themselves, like, you get in there and you make this about you. That's how we shine on this show. It's like, Jesus Christ, again, now I'm looking at everything a little bit differently again, because I was waiting for just to see what Erika's motive was. But when she's talking to her at the dinner table in Italy, she's saying, you didn't lead on me at all. I've been through some rough patches, you could have leaned on me. You're really upset about that? Why are we telling other people how they should go about divorce? I don't get it. Like, congratulations, you've been through a divorce, and it was a messy divorce. Now everybody has to stop and talk to you about their own different trials and tribulations through their own divorces to make sure that you sign off on it. That's all I'm getting from this. It's just weird. It's very bizarre work.

Speaker 1:
[14:39] Erika, you burned down the entire group when you were going through the Tom Girardi stuff two years ago. Kyle, last year, shall we reminisce about what a fucking mess that was with Morgan Wade and everything? Yeah. And even amidst all of that, when Dorit talked to you, what did she say? I want to help. I feel like you're going through something. She had a conversation with you. She didn't have a conversation with other people with leading questions. Like, hey, you think Dorit's a fucking lunatic too, right? That's how you phrase things, not, hey, are you worried about Dorit? You just say, I'm worried about Dorit. And then you tell other people why they should be worried about Dorit. And in doing that, you go to Dorit and say, both said you're fucking losing your mind. No, she didn't know fucking dickhead. Like, I'm so. Oh, it's fucking.

Speaker 2:
[15:29] It makes so sick of them. I'm so sick of all of them. I can't wait for them to be off the screen.

Speaker 1:
[15:35] The fact that you got punked, Erika, Kyle and Sutton, you got punked by Amanda. Amanda showed up. She had shit with DeRite all year. And I got to give her credit where credit's due. She showed up and she's supportive. Do I need to hear her say stream of revenue another time? Absolutely not as long as I live. But she's there. And she's supportive. It is supportive. I'm just saying like that's her go to every time because she wants people to know that she has so many streams of revenue.

Speaker 2:
[16:07] Maybe that's why I'm most mad at all of them. You're making me like Amanda. You're making me actually look at Amanda in a different light, a nicer light.

Speaker 1:
[16:16] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[16:17] I just I don't know what to do with that.

Speaker 1:
[16:19] I don't either. But Amanda did her fucking job. She went to work. She was supportive and she had the right attitude at the event. Again, her and Doreed, butting heads all year. Doreed's been rude to her. She's been Amanda doing whatever it is she does. But Doreed's been kind of a dick. She's still there because one, that's what you're paid to do, and two, you don't want to burn a bridge over a big event like this because she said some mean things in Italy and left with the chauffeur. That was funny. You guys should have said that was funny, not being big crybabies about it. Then she left. We don't care. Walk home, call an Uber. You guys got back just fine. That's funny.

Speaker 2:
[17:05] Oh my God, dude. What a nightmare of a show.

Speaker 1:
[17:09] Sure is, but we get to read speech, which I appreciate was short and sweet to the point, and we get the cover reveal on Burdened. I love Cathy's breakdown. That's going to be a good log read. That's going to be, that's the whole, that's going to take me. I'm not going to read.

Speaker 2:
[17:24] I'm not going to read that.

Speaker 1:
[17:25] Yeah, definitely. Maybe the Audible.

Speaker 2:
[17:27] Maybe there's an audio book. Nah, probably not, though.

Speaker 1:
[17:29] Nah, is she going to read it?

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Speaker 8:
[21:57] No, no.

Speaker 1:
[21:59] But you get all the ladies together. Burt Bowes reveals that she was engaged. Everyone's excited. Yay. Good for you. Lots of congratulations. And we get to, what I tell you, I got up, I made dinner. I came back and rewound it and started wherever this was. Can't tell you how much I don't care about the wedding. I don't care about the planning of the wedding. I don't care about this storyline. I whack this from the show. I'm not invested. I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2:
[22:30] I needed the time filler. It's sort of like what used to be good in housewife shows. Kyle's been on it for a long time. We get to watch her daughters grow up. We should be invested in this. We should be happy. And instead, it's just not. We end up turning this into a moment of, yeah, we end up turning it into a moment of, I'm just so scared for her because I had a great life. I had a great husband and all of that came crumbling down. Nope, too little, too late. You should have shown this. You should have talked about this last season, the season before. I don't care when you talked about it, but instead you decided to hide it from the public eye and then hide everything else that you were doing from the public eye. And now we're supposed to care? No, we don't. We're not invested.

Speaker 1:
[23:12] No, I don't even know your daughter's names. I forget them frequently.

Speaker 2:
[23:17] Yeah, well, the funny thing that came from all of this was like all of them clowning her. Like, hey, we only got one bedroom for you and dad. Actually, there's only one bed. You guys are sleeping together. You guys gonna cuddle? I'm like, Jesus Christ, this is funny, but a little out of touch.

Speaker 1:
[23:33] Yeah, and like her in the end of the scene being like, you know, I feel like you'll know when the time comes to pull the plug on a marriage. Probably when you see pictures of your ex doing body shots off of a bikini clad woman in Aspen would be a starting point for me. Maybe him flirting with other housewives on a different housewife show.

Speaker 2:
[23:59] Maybe that he's rolling around a 21 year old at the airport.

Speaker 1:
[24:03] Perhaps could be when you are together having these emotional conversations and he awkwardly laughs in response to you crying.

Speaker 2:
[24:12] Yeah, any of those going to his bachelor pad and asking him how many towels he has and him saying, well, I've got one for me. I've got one for a guest. You know, I don't know. There's PK's couch like that could be part of it. I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[24:27] I don't know. But like, you're trying to pull sympathy. We don't. We don't care because you haven't given us anything. You want us to clock in when you feel like going to work, but you don't go to work. Like, no, I'm good. But Rachel and Dorit get together chatting and Dorit's, you know, again, I do think that she could have taken a lot of better approaches to everything this season. I do think that she didn't do herself any favors along the way. Sure. Yeah. But if nothing else, I would have liked the support of the group. Last night was a statement is what she says. And it's like, yeah, Sutton under the guise of not dampering the evening is a ridiculous text to send 30 minutes after it starts. Kyle makes sense. Like they're not in a good place. Why would she show up? But Dorit, not a bad point. She maintains that she's so concerned, she's so worried about me. She couldn't bite the bullet and show up to that whole thing. Erika, what the fuck did I do to you? I agree, Erika, like she did call you a C next Tuesday. She did leave you stranded. It does call for a conversation. It does potentially call for a statement of not going, but I don't think the not going counts if you don't call her and tell her, because that's telling her you don't care. That's different.

Speaker 2:
[25:50] Yeah, again, I think like you said, Dereke could have done things differently, but what I'm thinking about, I'm like, I don't think that she really should do things differently. I think the only way that you do things differently-

Speaker 1:
[26:01] I think there are some times where she pushes it a little too much than she needs to.

Speaker 2:
[26:05] Sure, but she was trying. Like again, like she's trying to do her job and she's going through all of this while also doing her job. The only thing that she could do differently is go differently about the rest of the group. Like I don't give a shit if she's going against the rest of the group with her own divorce. It doesn't really matter to me. So like I think most of, there were things that were played up a little bit, but I do think a lot of what she was doing was pretty raw and real and how she was actually feeling. So if she wants to storm away from certain things, if she wants to call people, see you next Tuesdays over and over again, it's going to be funny at first, it's going to suck. And that's probably going to be funny again by the time the reunion comes around. But again, like her talking about all of this is like, I don't know what you want to do, I just don't know what you want to be differently because this is who these people are, this is what they're going to do. And if Kyle is going to be the mainstay on all of this and she's going to be able to take a stance, everybody else is going to follow her lead. It's just stupid.

Speaker 1:
[26:59] Yeah. And she even like lists the things going like, what have I done? Been overwhelmed, not being myself. I'm late on this, that, the other.

Speaker 2:
[27:06] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[27:07] Yeah. You're going through it. And Rachel's like, how many times you said this to her? And I was like, she said it. She said it a lot of times and she even says that, I've said it so many times, but she doesn't allow for an open dialogue because Kyle wants concessions. Kyle wants Dereet to go, you're right, Kyle. I've been going about it the wrong way. Thank God for you and your wisdom, or I wouldn't be able to navigate. She wants contrition. And Dereet's not giving it for the first time, which I do appreciate. Is it annoying to watch the same thing every episode? God, yes. I would have burned my eyes out of my head.

Speaker 6:
[27:41] But she didn't cave.

Speaker 1:
[27:42] So I will give her credit for that. She stood on it for a whole season. And that's something new.

Speaker 2:
[27:47] It's even funnier. Because why would Dereet go to Kyle to ask her advice to get through a divorce? Kyle doesn't even know how to get through a divorce.

Speaker 1:
[27:55] She has no idea. Correct.

Speaker 2:
[27:56] She has no idea what she's doing. And she's not telling us what she's doing. But she definitely has no idea what she's doing. And she's holding on to this weird hope that maybe Moe's going to see the error of his ways and come back to her.

Speaker 1:
[28:07] Correct.

Speaker 2:
[28:08] If we dug into that, it's pretty embarrassing. But we go to Dureet and then you look at Dureet, you're like, hey, you should come to me for advice. Like Erika, I mean, well, let's go into your divorce. Like that was a fucking travesty.

Speaker 1:
[28:20] You're still going through it.

Speaker 2:
[28:22] You're still going through it.

Speaker 1:
[28:23] So why would you go to you first?

Speaker 2:
[28:25] What kind of advice is she going to get from you? Like don't mix Xanax and drinking. Okay, great. That's a good starting point maybe. Don't try to sing along with Asher. Like that maybe-

Speaker 1:
[28:36] No, I'll probably sing along with Asher.

Speaker 2:
[28:38] I do kind of want to see that again. So maybe you should do that to read. Aside from that, what kind of advice are you going to get? Probably nothing good.

Speaker 1:
[28:44] No, it's just wacky. It's wacky. It seems pretty obvious to me, and then I watch the show and I'm like, this is so convoluted and stupid. In the season finale of a flagship show, we had a commercial for Nikki Hilton's Jewelry Line. We had a 20-minute commercial for Nikki Hilton's Jewelry Line in the season finale of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Speaker 2:
[29:16] Yep. Then pretty much just a copy and paste of The Italy Dinner. That's pretty much what we got. That is exactly what we got. Yeah, let's check out all the jewelry. Wow, this is beautiful. Wow, Kathy throws such a beautiful garden party. Cool. This should be episode either one, like start off with this. I'm okay with that. This could be episode 10. Fine. Still going to complain about it, but okay. Doing this in the middle and then the end scene too was another like 15 minutes of pretty much nothing. Let's get the updates on everybody's life. Don't care. Nothing really big is happening. It's all stuff that we should probably be talking about all season. Oh, cool. We're just going to get a little blurb at the end and then watch Amanda and Eddie get married. Cool. The whole thing was just a complete clusterfuck, but I guess really the only thing to dig into at the garden party is everybody sitting down and like I said, copy and paste from Italy, except with a little caveat of Kyle openly saying to everybody, speak up. I need you guys to be on my side. Oh, you're right.

Speaker 1:
[30:19] Sorry, Kyle. Yeah, I agree. I agree. You get like a peanut gala like, yeah, yeah, wait, yeah. She's right. Like what?

Speaker 2:
[30:26] That was unbelievable. And it's again, the reason that we're not specifically saying and we will a little bit, but the reason we're not specifically saying is because it's all the same shit that we've heard over and over and over again. Doreet, I think she held her ground pretty well. I almost turned the fucking TV off though, when Kyle goes to her confessional and she's like, Doreet's just gonna, you know, she got a lot of publicity. She got a lot of popularity from smoking a cigarette. So she's gonna walk away. I wanted to turn it off. There we go. Now we're getting into the nitty gritty here. You didn't get that popularity. You didn't get all that support from people online because Doreet had a good iconic moment last year, which we loved. And now we're all kind of flocking behind her, not because we really love Doreet. We're flocking behind her because you're insufferable. And also you didn't show us anything from your divorce and she's showing us what it's like to go through this. You were hiding all of that. So now you're pissed at her because she's getting the fan support and you're not. You haven't gotten the fan support in like 10 years.

Speaker 1:
[31:23] Why? Because of everything that you're doing. All the shit that you've done in this episode, this episode's a microcosm for your entire last five years.

Speaker 2:
[31:36] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[31:37] Like you rallying the troops in real time should have been your indicator. Like, oh, that's what Doreet's talking about. Like she lays it out for her on a silver platter and they all sit down. And it was, it was almost like, I don't know, serendipitous is the wrong word. It was, it was interesting for Doreet to walk into the party and you see Kyle surrounded by people and she's solo walking in. Did I think it's a little ridiculous to go, the lion's dead and doesn't intimidate me or whatever. Yeah, that's kind of stupid, but whatever. You go over there and you stand your ground once again. This is where I think Doreet could have budged a little bit, not in this, at this point in the season, no. Other conversations that were had, she was combative in moments where I didn't think she needed to be combative. But that's neither here nor there, especially at this juncture because now everything's so far gone. As they're sitting there discussing whatever the fucks, I don't even know what we're talking about because Kyle's like, look, obviously you were hurt the other night. No shit. Okay. Thanks, doctor. I would have, oh, that's what she says. It would have been a struggle honestly because I'd be killing myself to get there right now. When we haven't spoken and Doreen's like, look, all three of you made a choice. That's it. All she does is break it down to what it is. You guys made a choice. You made a statement. You didn't go for a purpose. You're all talking about that behind closed doors, that that was the purpose. And then Kyle goes, well, you say you didn't feel supported. So to prove that I didn't support you like that. Hello, you didn't feel supported. So I didn't go and didn't support her.

Speaker 2:
[33:20] I always wanted to show you what not supporting felt like.

Speaker 1:
[33:26] Like what? And then she goes to this list of like when she supported her and then she throws when people say you have a fake accent. I'm like, you're just trying to hurt her. This is my point. Where did that come from? And Dureet doesn't take the bait, which I was proud of her. She goes, well, what about my divorce? She's like, we all tried to support you. Everyone tried to support you. Everyone made comments. And this is, I swear to God, I'm seeing red. I'm like, you're doing it still. No one said anything, bro. You went to people and you made leading questions and they responded in turn because they were, Bose is concerned about Dureet. She was worried about her. Sutton was actually worried about Dureet. Erika was worried about Dureet. So they're already worried. And then you give them leading questions and they respond because you set them up to respond in a certain way. And they do. And you take that as them cosigning your crazy shit. You're being a vindictive asshole. They're concerned. And now you've lumped them into vindictive assholeness. And the worst part is you're going to sit there and go, hello, can someone fucking speak up? And everyone goes, wait. Yeah, fuck, Dory.

Speaker 2:
[34:36] Yeah, we did that. Yeah. Yeah, we felt that way. Like what?

Speaker 1:
[34:40] Why?

Speaker 2:
[34:40] Why? You like it would have been so much better. It could have gone so much better if nobody spoke up or somebody was like, well, I didn't actually say anything. Not really. Like Kyle, you're kind of pushing an agenda here. That would have been awesome. Again, we are graced with so many different moments where somebody could just stand up to Kyle and just show her that she's not leading the pack, that this is not good TV and they could just completely pivot and it would be so much better and it would have caught us off guard and it would have been a good shocking moment to end the season. If we end up spinning this into what it actually is and everybody else sitting around goes, no, Kyle, I mean, you were kind of pushing an agenda here and she lashes out and freaks out and leaves, that would have been a good way to end the season. I would have loved if that's how that ended. But instead, no. Yeah, you're right. Bootlickers. Yep. Everybody kind of show up. Here we go. Kyle, you're so right. We should have absolutely stepped in and intervened with Dureet's bad behavior all season. You were right all along. No, just fucking no. Like, have a fucking backbone.

Speaker 1:
[35:43] Somebody, for the love of God, I think what Rachel and Bo's are doing based off of their confessionals, I think they're letting Dureet figure it out and not figure it out like, look, she's just got to get through this. I think they're like, this is who they are. So like, I'm going to let you hang on this one and it's going to suck, but maybe then you'll know like they don't give a fuck about you. I think that's what Bo's is doing. I'm pretty sure that's what Rachel's doing because they both set it up in a certain way where it's like Dureet and Kyle need to address their issues right now. I think Bo's is there to pick up the pieces after where I think Rachel is too. But I think this is like a line in the sand moment where it's like, this is how they are going to treat you. We're your real friends and we'll be up on the patio with you when this is all said and done. But for now, we're going to show you how bad it is. Was kind of the vibe I got.

Speaker 2:
[36:37] Yeah, it's sort of. I mean, they should still be speaking up though. I'm not really, I'm not even saying speak up for Dureet or anything like that. Just speak up against Kyle. If you guys do feel differently than what Kyle's presenting it as, tell her no. That's not like you're putting words in my mouth. You're telling other people that this is how I feel and that's not how I feel. I thought I was having a conversation with Dureet's friends. It seems like you're not doing that. So no, I actually don't align with what you're talking about right now. That would have been great because then at least draw a line in the sands. But even then, the people who we've been looking towards all season to be like, all right, I think they're on Dureet's team. It looks like they're on Dureet's team. They understand where she's coming from. You got to speak up. Leaving Dureet out on an island isn't fun. It's not good for Dureet, obviously. We obviously are against Kyle, but you have to do something like this is your job.

Speaker 1:
[37:26] I agree. That's also a very good point. I'm just, blah.

Speaker 2:
[37:31] Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1:
[37:32] Erika and Dureet get into it. They go back and forth for a while, and it's more of the same. It's Italy, like you said, all over again, and Dureet bounces. She's like, I'm fucking out. You can tell in her face, like the Erika one stings. She was genuinely upset at the end of that interaction, and Rachel says, I wish she'd said this louder, and I wish she said this earlier. I think it's not what you're saying. It's how you're saying it. Yeah. That's it, because they're not being supportive, and them being Kyle, Kyle's yelling at Dureet, telling her how she should be handling everything, and that she's not handling it the right way. Meanwhile, Kyle is still holding on to hope that Moe's gonna stop banging 20-somethings in Aspen.

Speaker 2:
[38:26] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[38:27] So, shut up. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[38:30] Have you thought about that?

Speaker 1:
[38:31] Maybe you could just shut up and not talk.

Speaker 2:
[38:33] It could work.

Speaker 1:
[38:34] That's kinda cool. Though you get to the end of the season credits. I wrote end of the season credits on the worst season of TV ever made. Kyle's big takeaway. I'm not going to be stepped up by anyone. And I showed that. No, you showed that you are just not a good friend in any capacity. Yeah. That nobody should go through something near you. God forbid they have a traumatic event in their life because you're going to fucking bury them while they're trying to deal with it. Rachel's divorce is pending, but she has a new man. Erika is sad. I do think her and Dorit will be fine. I don't think that's a friendship ender. Bose is going to do one more round of IVF and see how it goes. Sutton is Sutton. Amanda marries her cuck of a husband and makes them say for richer or richer, and even the husband didn't like that one. He finally rolled his eyes, so at least we saw some kind of life out of that guy.

Speaker 2:
[39:39] I've never wanted somebody to just go flat broke more than them.

Speaker 1:
[39:42] I know they make it really hard to root for them in any way, shape or form, but the episode ends. We went back to the party. I was like, why fuck just end it? Why are you taking this out of our misery? Fucking jewelry commercial Sutton, Bozendory Sutton comes up. I know you don't want to speak to me. And why the fuck are you up here? Whatever. Do you want to explain? Oh, God damn it. I can't even. Do you want to explain to me what happened at Rachel's? You said you'd hate me forever. No, actually, I don't want to explain it to you. It might not have been a good joke, but it was a fucking joke, bro. You called Amanda a baby and then he snuggled up to her all season because Kyle was snuggling up to her all season. And now you're going to double down in the last fucking episode and say, you hurt my feelings. Oh, no. Put these chicks on Rhode Island. They wouldn't last a day in Rhode Island.

Speaker 2:
[40:48] Yeah, I just don't get it. Like, what did you think was going to happen? Did you actually think that Duret was going to, like, as soon as she even starts to apologize, which, you know, she doesn't need to. And it wasn't that sincere of an apology. You jumped down her throat and you're like, well, see, I don't believe you. I don't believe that you actually feel sorry. Why would she? Who cares? Get over it. You're being such a baby. And I just, I just can't with them anymore. I truly just cannot. Like, this was the end of the season. This was the last scene. Was Sutton and Duret sitting down and Sutton begging for an apology. For what? I don't, I still don't really know. Because she stopped talking to you when you were being weird in that conversation and started talking to Rachel because Rachel came over and she's a much more interesting person and it's her house. Like, I just, I don't get it.

Speaker 1:
[41:35] And you were being a dick to Duret and Duret did, she literally very calmly said to you, I don't want to do this right now.

Speaker 2:
[41:43] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[41:43] Then you doubled down and she's like, ah, I walked away. And then she's the fucking monster. Yeah. And like to end the season on, I've watched you treat your friends like Duret. Kyle pissed on you for years. Years. The only reason that you're not getting shit on anymore is because Garcelle's gone, your actual friend, and you snuggled up to Kyle again. That's all that's happening. What are you talking about? Erika, shit on you until last year. She lightened up finally. What do you mean? Treat your friends like dirt. You've been treated like shit for almost your entire tenure on this show. But Duret is going too far. If you have the same energy for Kyle, you can do this to Duret, but you don't, so you can't.

Speaker 2:
[42:45] It's whatever. We're done. We're done with the season. We have the reunion, which is going to clear up nothing, no resolution, probably just make us even angrier. I'm not going to care. I'm not going to care about one thing at the reunion.

Speaker 1:
[43:00] No, me neither. Let's get to some questions.

Speaker 2:
[43:05] Yeah. I like this one from the new Lala. Why are they still there? The cast, I mean. It's time for a change.

Speaker 1:
[43:13] We don't know.

Speaker 2:
[43:14] I don't know why they're still there.

Speaker 1:
[43:15] We don't know, Lala. Koya Baby does DeRite think she's smart and she projects and tells on herself constantly. Pause her.

Speaker 2:
[43:24] Pause the show.

Speaker 1:
[43:26] Pause everybody. And like, yeah, she does project. But like, again, I'm just going to go to the root here of this season. She's going through a shit ton, and that doesn't absolve her of everything. But the lack of empathy that she's gotten is astounding.

Speaker 2:
[43:43] Yeah. From Meg Norm, I'm just confused why Erika went so in on Dorit. Like Kyle is not that powerful. She is that powerful on the show.

Speaker 1:
[43:51] She is that powerful.

Speaker 2:
[43:53] And follow up, and Sutton, what is her angle with that last stitch effort as an argument? I have no idea. No idea. I just don't understand the show anymore. Yeah, good point from Jennifer M2M. Shame on Erika. No show and no word. Very disappointing and classless. I'll be pretty careful with that C word.

Speaker 1:
[44:11] Oh boy. Andre Drew one. Do we really think Amanda went to Dorit's cover launch to be a girls girl? Yeah, actually.

Speaker 2:
[44:21] I weirdly do.

Speaker 1:
[44:22] It's a rare W.

Speaker 2:
[44:23] I weirdly do. Yeah. Oh man. From Mike Bros. Does Dorit know that she isn't the first person to go through this slash? It isn't an excuse to be a jerk. She has full clearance to be a jerk to whoever the hell she wants right now. I am not defending anybody else on this cast.

Speaker 1:
[44:40] Yeah. I don't understand, I guess, how you want to hold her accountable, but let's say both then. All right. You can say that she's doing too much. You can't sit there and say that she didn't get berated about everything for the entire season or that Kyle wasn't setting up other people to make it seem like the entire group was ganged up against her. That's objectively true. So you can have an issue with Dorit. I can totally see where any of you may have issues with Dorit. I get it. But you can't hold her to a standard and not acknowledge that Kyle was setting her up the entire season.

Speaker 2:
[45:13] Yeah. From TLPR, did you watch the last after show? Dorit is unhinged. I didn't watch one episode of that after show. Do you think I want more Beverly Hills in my life?

Speaker 1:
[45:24] What are you guys? We watch after shows of shows we like.

Speaker 2:
[45:28] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:29] Or if some crazy shit happens.

Speaker 2:
[45:31] Unbelievable. I'll save that one for the end. This is actually a fun little question that has nothing to do with Beverly Hills because I will not answer any of them. From Sarah Hills of the Beverly Hills Housewives, whose memoir would you most want to read? Also, all of the other Housewives, old or new?

Speaker 1:
[45:52] Tilly.

Speaker 2:
[45:53] Tilly. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:54] Tilly.

Speaker 2:
[45:54] Absolutely. Tilly. Rachel's could be kind of interesting too. Erika, no. Sutton, no. Boring.

Speaker 1:
[46:03] Rachel, Tilly or Bose.

Speaker 2:
[46:04] Kyle's wouldn't be a real memoir. She'd be making shit up.

Speaker 1:
[46:07] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[46:10] Probably Rachel or Tilly.

Speaker 1:
[46:11] Rachel, Tilly or Bose, I would read.

Speaker 2:
[46:15] Yeah. Bose would probably be interesting. From SDMWVU, do you think the whole cast should come back next season? No. I think they should pause this show and fire everybody. Agreed.

Speaker 1:
[46:28] Yeah. No. They need to figure out what to do with this mess.

Speaker 2:
[46:34] From JBetahut713, you deserve a ceremonial-grade matcha for getting through the season. Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[46:39] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[46:41] I don't want that, but thank you.

Speaker 1:
[46:42] There you go. KWP5015, do we really need to drag this season out just for Kyle's daughter's wedding?

Speaker 2:
[46:48] No.

Speaker 1:
[46:49] We need to drag it out for the Nikki Hilton jewelry commercial.

Speaker 2:
[46:52] Correct. Correct.

Speaker 1:
[46:54] Because Kathy said we're having this and production went, yes. Yes, Ms. Hilton.

Speaker 2:
[46:59] Yes, Ms. Hilton. We'll end on this one from lard.n underscore n, interesting username. Congrats, bros, you survived. We didn't actually. A lot of me died.

Speaker 1:
[47:11] A big piece of me is not coming back.

Speaker 2:
[47:13] Yeah, it's never coming back.

Speaker 1:
[47:15] Nope, it ever lies in Beverly Hills now and will forever in Amanda slash Kyle's Pool.

Speaker 2:
[47:22] The California Housewife shows suck so bad.

Speaker 1:
[47:26] They're so bad.

Speaker 2:
[47:27] They're so fucking bad and they're like some of the oldest shows, Cornerstone franchises and they are so unbelievably unwatchable. I just fix it, please.

Speaker 1:
[47:37] The great part is Beverly Hills is worse than Orange County.

Speaker 2:
[47:42] I know.

Speaker 1:
[47:43] And Orange County is awful.

Speaker 2:
[47:44] It's embarrassing. It's truly embarrassing. I don't know what to do.

Speaker 1:
[47:50] I don't know, but I mean, three more, dude. Three more. I can't even begin to imagine what we have to cover for three fucking episodes of a reunion. But as always, we will do our jobs because we show up to work, unlike the group of Housewives. So we'll be here, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, to recap those episodes, because we show up for our audience, because we love you guys, and we respect your time.

Speaker 2:
[48:20] Yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 1:
[48:22] Fucking fuck. Okay, that's all I got. You got anything else?

Speaker 2:
[48:29] Nope.

Speaker 1:
[48:30] That's our show. BravBros are out of here. I hate Beverly Hills.

Speaker 2:
[48:36] Boo.

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