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Speaker 1:
[00:22] They sound amazing.

Speaker 2:
[00:25] Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. It's giving, you know what today's giving? Transformation Tuesday.

Speaker 1:
[00:32] Cause you got a haircut?

Speaker 2:
[00:33] Yeah, I'm sure you guys could tell, it's extremely dramatic transformation over here. I got a trim and I'm feeling like myself again.

Speaker 1:
[00:41] You look like yourself again.

Speaker 2:
[00:43] Thank you. Are you shocked when I opened the camera this morning?

Speaker 1:
[00:47] I was, I said, wow.

Speaker 2:
[00:50] That's a transformation.

Speaker 1:
[00:50] She's going through a major change.

Speaker 2:
[00:52] Yeah, it's giving, a girl going through a breakup, she's so crazy with her trim.

Speaker 1:
[00:56] Is there something you want to tell us?

Speaker 2:
[00:58] Yeah. I did something crazy last night.

Speaker 1:
[01:02] What did you do? I did something cute last night. I did something cute last night because I cleared out my computer because I was running low on storage and they took me to this wonderful place in my computer where they show me my biggest files and they only reserve that for-

Speaker 2:
[01:16] For The Toast.

Speaker 1:
[01:17] For the times when it's dire, I guess.

Speaker 2:
[01:19] Right.

Speaker 1:
[01:20] And I got to see my biggest files in my computer, like lots of videos and stuff. And like, it was so much like old Patreon footage, like stuff from like that mukbang when I was pregnant with Charlie, a lot of footage from when I redecorated my guest room and like so many different eras of us just like popping on my screen. So many pargy eras, Toast-aversary, documentary. It was really cute to go in and delete everything. Well, because it's all on Patreon.

Speaker 2:
[01:44] Well, it exists at patreon.com/thetoast. So make sure to subscribe to support your favorite podcast.

Speaker 1:
[01:48] It was very cute trip down memory lane. That was very unexpected. Like I was just trying to do some admin. All of a sudden, they took me through the years.

Speaker 2:
[01:56] Well, my Mahjong game got canceled because like when you have literally three friends and one of them drops out, you're just sort of up shits creek without a paddle.

Speaker 1:
[02:04] I think it's time for Siamese Mahjong.

Speaker 2:
[02:07] I know. Me and Ben is like becoming a real addict too. When we get in bed, we're like, we wish we could play Mahjong. And if we just learned how to play two-player Mahjong, it's just, the thing about Mahjong, why it's so great. It's like, it's the community aspect of it. Like, and yeah, I could sit at my kitchen table with my husband, but I do that every night. Like, I don't need to do that.

Speaker 1:
[02:24] I also, someone just, I was reading my DM, someone DM'd me. They were like, you have to learn how to play two-player Mahjong. It's so much fun and you can play whenever. But I also think it would kind of ruin four-person Mahjong because all of a sudden, it's very slow.

Speaker 2:
[02:35] Yeah, and also, I think that the magic of Mahjong is that it's hard to get a game together. So when you do, it's like, everybody's so excited to be there. So yeah, I didn't get to play and Ben went to the Knicks game, so I actually was so bored, I just fell asleep. And actually, in the middle of the day, I just fell asleep once Ben left. And I don't want to put any bad vibes out there, but I feel like Ben might be a curse to the Knicks. The first game, he did not go to, they won. The second game, he went to, they lost. He's 0 for 2.

Speaker 1:
[03:04] I have that experience as well.

Speaker 2:
[03:06] And if it keeps going that way, I'm gonna need Jalen Brunson to step in and say, Ben, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can watch from outside.

Speaker 1:
[03:12] But don't you want them to lose in your heart of hearts because then he'll stay home and not be into the game anymore?

Speaker 2:
[03:21] Maybe I had a place in my life, I was genuinely that evil. But now, Ben loves the Knicks so much, and honestly, now I'm very much healed because whenever I think of the Knicks, Ruby was born in the middle of the playoffs, so we were watching in the hospital for the two weeks that we got home, we stayed up every night with Ruby sleeping on my boob. I think so fondly of it. I can't believe that it's a playoffs again. That means my baby's almost one. I actually love the Knicks now. I never didn't like the Knicks, I just hated that Ben left. But now I really love it. I actually, when Ben was at the game, I watched, because I care, I care. Yeah, I can learn.

Speaker 1:
[03:57] I can learn. That's really sweet. And then also Ruby's gonna be a little Nick.

Speaker 2:
[04:02] Okay, seriously stop, I know.

Speaker 1:
[04:06] He's gonna be a little Nick's fan.

Speaker 2:
[04:08] And he has a Jalen Brunson jersey.

Speaker 1:
[04:10] He's a Brunson boy.

Speaker 2:
[04:12] And let me tell you, I was watching an interview, Jalen Brunson went on Caleb.

Speaker 1:
[04:17] Jalen Brunson can't fuck up. No, but that's your boy's idol right there.

Speaker 2:
[04:23] My boys, he is literally like the role model for all young men of New York City. I watched, he did Caleb.

Speaker 1:
[04:31] Presley?

Speaker 2:
[04:33] Yeah, where they like, you know, do that funny sketch show. I don't know what the it's called. Yeah. And they had him say like, you're literally the king of New York. You could probably get a reservation at any restaurant in the entire city at the drop of a dime. So they call, I actually never even heard of this place. It's like the best, most elite steakhouse. Call is yourself, say it's, hey, it's Shailen Brunson. I want a table. Like Kern Steakhouse or something. I had never even heard of it. They should have called the Polo Bar. Like, yeah, Kern. They should have called the Polo Bar because that really would have been impressive.

Speaker 1:
[05:01] They should have called Hillstone.

Speaker 2:
[05:04] Literally. That's the hardest reservation. Caleb has like a script for him where he's like, bitch, you know who the fuck I am. But he like wouldn't do it. He was being so sweet. And they gave him the reservation. Like it was really inconvenient. You could tell the guy on the phone was like, in hell.

Speaker 1:
[05:18] Like actually in hell. Like anybody can call up then and say it's Jalen.

Speaker 2:
[05:21] Especially AI, you could say like, hi, I'm Jalen Brunson. The guy believed, and at first he was like, sorry, we're really busy. The Rangers are playing at the Garden tonight. And Jalen was like, yeah, it's Jalen Brunson. And they gave him a table for 730, but he was like, no, it needs to be six. Which I guess is like right before the Ranger game. Needs to be six. And the script was like making him say like, bitch, you better get me a table. And he wouldn't say anything. He was being really sweet. And then he handed the phone to like that guy who sits in the corner eating ice cream, who like was his quote manager to like confirm the reservation. So yeah, I guess it could have been AI.

Speaker 1:
[05:56] Yeah, I feel like that just set up all restaurants.

Speaker 2:
[05:59] A bad precedent.

Speaker 1:
[06:00] Yeah, like not to ruin the fun.

Speaker 2:
[06:02] Yeah, right, of your sketch.

Speaker 1:
[06:04] Yeah, so a lot of pressure for Jalen Brunson to be a great role model for Ruber.

Speaker 2:
[06:08] I think he is kind of like meeting the expectations that have been set for him by all young men of the New York Tri-State area. Like, it's so funny. Everybody wears their Knicks merch now. Like we went to the park on Saturday, which was the first game and Ben wore his hat. Everyone is wearing a hat, a jacket. Like people in New York, like they just live for the Knicks. And it's really sad because like the Knicks have never really been, besides for like that one team in like 92 that they always talk about. They've never been like an insanely amazing team. But in the last few years, they've been a really, really good team. So it's just like exciting for people here to have something, you know?

Speaker 1:
[06:49] Yeah, no, that's really great. Happy for Ben-lish.

Speaker 2:
[06:53] So yeah, Ben-lish went out, I fell asleep and did nothing, watched nothing, read nothing.

Speaker 1:
[06:59] There was nothing on last night. We had the night off.

Speaker 2:
[07:02] Except there was an article to read.

Speaker 1:
[07:04] Oh yeah, that's a story today.

Speaker 2:
[07:07] Big, big toxic workplace takedown of one Ms. Alexandra Cooper.

Speaker 1:
[07:10] The hits start coming and they don't stop coming. And you know what?

Speaker 2:
[07:14] It's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[07:14] I'm really, I'm having sort of a change of heart in the sense that I thought her video was such a slay.

Speaker 2:
[07:25] But now it's opened up.

Speaker 1:
[07:26] It's opened up this can of worms. I didn't know she had all this stuff that she was sitting on. So you only do that if you're sort of very innocent, not if you have things in which people can come at you for.

Speaker 2:
[07:38] I think also that's just the position that somebody takes. When they've had a relatively conflictless career, she sort of sails on by-

Speaker 1:
[07:46] When they've had an easy time.

Speaker 2:
[07:47] Yeah. I would never make a video like that, opening myself up. Somebody would put together a 10-part series of everything I've ever said that they didn't like. I have so much out there for people to criticize. I would just never do that. This is just coming from a person who's clearly never had a real scandal. Even though she did have to call her daddy thing, but she came out totally on top. She doesn't know what it's like to be in that vulnerable position. Only a crazy person would make that video and invite that hate, especially going up against such a beloved figure.

Speaker 1:
[08:13] Yeah, I guess I just didn't realize that she had all of these things, and that sentiment was starting to change for her and she shouldn't have opened the floodgates.

Speaker 2:
[08:22] Yeah, because now people are going back and hating on things that she did, but you ate it up at the time, the gluck gluck. You loved that. If you ate it up, then. Not you, specifically. Yeah, I know how much you love the gluck gluck.

Speaker 1:
[08:36] If you ate it up then, shut the fuck up now.

Speaker 2:
[08:38] Yeah, that shit pisses me off.

Speaker 1:
[08:40] Yeah. Yeah. And it's like everything she's done has always had like a lot of visibility. You know, from the moment they launched Call Her Daddy, like they had a lot of listeners and like, it just sort of snowballed from there. So it's not like she ever did anything of these things, like quietly and you missed it. Like you...

Speaker 2:
[08:55] Correct.

Speaker 1:
[08:55] She did it and you saw it.

Speaker 2:
[08:57] And you loved it.

Speaker 1:
[08:58] Yeah. Everybody loves it. Did you just see that? My studio's breaking down.

Speaker 2:
[09:06] Okay. No, I just like was being really aggressive with the mic stand. Sorry.

Speaker 1:
[09:09] So since we're getting into the stories, maybe we should get into the stories.

Speaker 2:
[09:12] Yeah. Let me just think like about anything else I want to share.

Speaker 1:
[09:14] We didn't like have homework last night.

Speaker 2:
[09:16] Oh, I made a delicious stir fry.

Speaker 1:
[09:19] A delicious stir fry. But every time I make stir fry, I'm like, I never want to make this meal again. It takes so long. It's so messy. All the grease. My floors were slippery. Like the kids are slipping and sliding. And it was like really back breaking.

Speaker 2:
[09:32] Was it more of like an Asian stir fry or like a Mexican stir fry?

Speaker 1:
[09:36] Asian stir fry, I would say, because it was soy sauce and sesame oil. And so like-

Speaker 2:
[09:40] I fucking love a fucking chicken stir fry.

Speaker 1:
[09:43] I just want to say like, it came out amazingly. Thank God. Because if it didn't, I would have been really depressed because I slaved over that meal last night. And I didn't, and what's funny is I thought I was going to cook it Sunday night. So I sliced the chicken, marinated it, sliced peppers and onions and put it in the fridge to cook Sunday night, and Sunday night I was just like, I don't want to cook. So it was all prepped and ready. And last night all I had to do was cook it. All I had to do was even cook it last night, but because I was making so much chicken, it just took, and I do everything in small batches, because you know, they say-

Speaker 2:
[10:12] That is funny.

Speaker 1:
[10:13] They say if you put too much in the pan at once, it will steam the chicken instead of browning the chicken. I'm sure you've seen that on Ina.

Speaker 2:
[10:23] I actually haven't.

Speaker 1:
[10:24] Oh, you missed that one. So I was just, I was really putting in the work.

Speaker 2:
[10:29] I love stir fry. I love like any sort of like chicken with peppers and onions, like a fajita too. I love all different types of like global culinary takes on the traditional stir fry.

Speaker 1:
[10:38] Yeah. It's a good meal.

Speaker 2:
[10:40] Chicken rocks.

Speaker 1:
[10:41] But just don't make it yourself, honestly.

Speaker 2:
[10:44] Oh, don't worry.

Speaker 1:
[10:44] I never do. It's not worth it.

Speaker 2:
[10:47] Chicken rocks is a stir fry.

Speaker 1:
[10:49] Yeah, it was chicken rocks. That's really what it was.

Speaker 2:
[10:51] Yeah, chicken rocks.

Speaker 1:
[10:53] Let's get into the Fast Five stories that you do need to know.

Speaker 2:
[10:58] Wait, sorry. I have to tell you something so funny. I forgot to tell you this. Me and Ben were, like last week, it was so nice outside and we were eating dinner outside and we ran into someone we know.

Speaker 1:
[11:08] Because it was nice outside?

Speaker 2:
[11:09] Correct. We ran into someone we know. You know her too, Amanda. She was in your grade in high school.

Speaker 1:
[11:13] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[11:14] She goes to our school now. And she was like, oh my God, so good to see you guys. So funny, I actually just made chicken rocks for my family. And she said it to Ben, because Ben has co-opted chicken rocks, which is our family recipe. We've been eating it since we're in middle school. And so this girl was like, chicken rocks, chicken rocks, Ben, Ben. I'm like, Ben, it's literally a family, Oshry family recipe.

Speaker 1:
[11:33] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[11:34] To hear somebody else be like, I made chicken rocks. I'm like, excuse me, that's from our childhood.

Speaker 1:
[11:37] But if not for Ben, chicken rocks would be a lost art in your household.

Speaker 2:
[11:43] Yeah, no, and he did globalize and popularize the chicken rock.

Speaker 1:
[11:45] And he's preserving it.

Speaker 2:
[11:47] He also kind of appropriated it.

Speaker 1:
[11:48] Oh, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[11:50] Speaking of appropriation, are you seeing the drama with the Hallmark movie?

Speaker 1:
[11:53] I am, but like...

Speaker 2:
[11:55] Hallmark made a movie about mahjong and they didn't put one singular Asian person in it, which is really bad. And then they also did a bunch of collabs with mahjong companies. Not one of them owned by an Asian person. It's giving Asian a rager. And while American mahjong has largely been co-opted and become an Americanized version of it, to not pay homage, not cool.

Speaker 1:
[12:13] Yeah, that there's not homage, I guess.

Speaker 2:
[12:15] Like, why isn't there one Asian character? Like, she could be the teacher. Like, she could be anything.

Speaker 1:
[12:20] Right, but wouldn't that also be, like, offensive?

Speaker 2:
[12:22] Stereotype?

Speaker 1:
[12:23] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[12:23] Maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[12:24] So, then it should be, like, the leads are Asians, but other, but maybe the story is about how these randoms got into, you know what I mean? Like.

Speaker 2:
[12:32] Yeah. I just think they could have thrown something in there.

Speaker 1:
[12:35] I don't know. I think they're damned if they do and damned. I don't know really how they got out of this spot. They should have just scrapped the movie, but then it's like, okay, so we can't play mahjong anymore?

Speaker 2:
[12:42] Right now we're silencing mahjong.

Speaker 1:
[12:43] So we can't have movies about mahjong. And I'm not saying that I don't even know anything. I'm just saying like, I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[12:50] Drama.

Speaker 1:
[12:51] Drums. Fast Five Stories That You Did Do Need To Know.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
[19:00] Thank you, Turtley.

Speaker 2:
[19:02] You're welcome.

Speaker 1:
[19:03] Our first story, as we were discussing, Bloomberg dropped an article yesterday inside Alex Cooper's unwell, tears, screaming and employees looking for the exit. So they wrote an article about toxic workplace allegations over at unwell. Different things are being thrown out there. One that like her husband yells at everybody.

Speaker 2:
[19:27] Well I think actually the article overall wasn't even so bad for Alex. It was, I mean, it was bad because I guess she's allowed it to get to this place. But all the allegations of like toxicity were coming for her husband.

Speaker 1:
[19:38] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[19:39] Which like, I guess what they're saying is that unwell hasn't actually produced anything successful outside of call her daddy. And so that's why it's been hard for the company. They have a lot of like high level executives who have left because like the company can't kind of put one foot in front of the other. I don't think they know exactly who they are or what they're doing because they started as a podcast network and they have no successful podcasts outside of call her daddy. So call her daddy keeps Alex so busy that she's really never at unwell. She doesn't really work there. Matt does.

Speaker 1:
[20:04] Matt runs the day to day.

Speaker 2:
[20:05] And they say he's just the woat. He yells at everyone, threatens people. You never work in this town again.

Speaker 1:
[20:10] Very unprofessional people have been in the industry for many years. Leave set crying. He yelled on the unwell winter game set. There's just been-

Speaker 2:
[20:17] Oh, and did you see that part in the article that said that unwell winter games, a contestant dropped out last minute.

Speaker 1:
[20:23] Yeah, I had seen a clip of it already.

Speaker 2:
[20:25] And they asked a production member to be the new contestant?

Speaker 1:
[20:28] Yeah, I saw a clip of it last week. It looked actually kind of cute. Someone's flight got delayed or canceled and they couldn't make it. So they chose this young guy from production to be in part of the cast. So it was just funny.

Speaker 2:
[20:39] Oh, it's funny how perception is because on the show, I guess it looked cutesy, but on the article, they were saying and they sprung it on him to engage in this challenge.

Speaker 1:
[20:47] He looks like a guy who would work at Barstool. And it was funny how when you look at the unwell winter games cast, it's like a guy who works for unwell. It's actually, I didn't find that to be weird at all, but I also just realized that there was bachelor winter games. Because I saw an old clip on my Instagram about your winter games from Ashley Eye. Now she's getting all this stuff servicing. And I was like, wait, unwell winter games.

Speaker 2:
[21:09] Now, I just want to say about this article. I feel so split because the article itself, I feel is a big nothing burger, except for Alex, like her husband's obviously just like an ass is what they're saying. And I would think that it's like blown out. I feel like they write stuff about this like that to be like sensational and like just get in on like the drama and take advantage of what's going on. However, the interesting part here, and I know everyone's like probably tired of me hearing me talk about it. But I see so much of this through the lens of Sophia Franklin. And I feel good at the time that like, I think a lot of people now look back on the Sophia Franklin thing, they're like, well, yeah, like that was bad. But at the time, like Alex Cooper was mother, father. Like it was everything she did in the video. See, fuckers Wednesday, like it was all iconic to everyone. And I remember, like we got a lot of hate for our takes on Call Her Daddy. People really didn't agree with us. We were very middle of the road and just like, wait, I kind of feel Sophia. Like they should be making more money. And then $60 million, you know, the rest is history. But a lot of the rhetoric around Sophia was that like, well, yeah, maybe they should have been getting more money, but she allowed her boyfriend to get involved. That was her big crime that she was married to, I'm sorry, she was dating a guy who we now know was like a C-suite executive at HBO for many years, went to Harvard Business School, had an MBA, is like an actually smart person. And these are two girls who worked in the industry for five minutes and wanted to renegotiate a huge contract.

Speaker 1:
[22:38] And like had this huge thing on their hands and like-

Speaker 2:
[22:41] Didn't know what to do with it.

Speaker 1:
[22:42] Didn't know how to steer it. And they're up against like this huge media company. And they know they're being taken advantage of, but they don't know what to do.

Speaker 2:
[22:48] And the only sort of like thing they had in their arsenal was this guy who was really smart, is really smart, and tried to help them. I'm sure he was glad he did that. So even people who were like, yeah, they should have gotten more money. Sophia's biggest crime was always like, letting a man get involved. Even though like, sorry, the man was probably smarter than them both and could have helped at the time. Like I think that's fine to say. So I just think it's like a little rich that not only did she get married, start working with her husband, they merged like her everything she built in Call Her Daddy is a part of a holding company called Trending that she started with her man. He had some successful like ventures. They've mushed them all together to start this unwell trending company.

Speaker 1:
[23:31] She has given the keys to her success to her husband. He runs the day to day.

Speaker 2:
[23:35] Yeah, which by the way, I have no problem with that. I just want to say I'm not one of these like man hating people. I work with my husband like, I feel like that's fine.

Speaker 1:
[23:43] The thing is, all of these things, toxic workplace, letting your man get involved, letting him run the show that you built, would be fine from anyone other than her who has breached all of this stuff all of these years. Like, you know, she's meant to, like she rails on everyone and has guests come on who talk about like toxicity and narcissism and yelling and this and that. And then like, you're perpetuating it. Like you're supposed to be perfect because that's what you demand of everyone else.

Speaker 2:
[24:10] No, and like you literally ruined your best friend's life. I guess her crime was asking her boyfriend for advice. Meanwhile, yeah, you've handed the keys to your kingdom over to your husband, which if anyone else were to do, like I would have no issue with. But I do find the irony quite rich.

Speaker 1:
[24:25] But she has like people who come on and talk about like being on reality TV and their producers were very toxic. And that's like the workplace that like she's created right now. And like, you're not allowed to do that because like you say one thing and do another thing. And I also feel like there's like two sides to the way that she runs her shows is there's like the, you know, when she's doing her show and she's like girls, girl, and you know, safe space, safe space, smiley, happy, like, and then she like does these articles where she's just like, so like, I don't care if people like it, you know, and it's like, they're so different, you know, and I feel like now it's like the image, it's just not adding up. And I, I, I feel like we've chalked it up to her changing lanes a lot of times, you know, like, oh, she's going to try and be the reality.

Speaker 2:
[25:08] Go from girl boss to more like Chris Harrison.

Speaker 1:
[25:11] Yeah, but it's also just, it just is so incongruous to be like one way when she's hosting the show, where it's like this warm, safe place and everybody's feelings matter. And then she's talking to Forbes and she's like, you've got to be ruthless.

Speaker 2:
[25:24] And then she goes to Utah and hangs out with Dakota Mortenson.

Speaker 1:
[25:27] Well, that's the other thing that, of course.

Speaker 2:
[25:29] Yeah. No, but I'm sorry, I couldn't, I read the article and all I thought about was Sophia, because the article is a, sort of an indictment on her husband. It doesn't say that Alex herself does anything wrong. She's sort of absent from the company, because the one thing the company has is call her daddy and that keeps her very busy. So she's sort of offloaded these 100 employees, 20 of which have left in the last year, which is like a significant percentage of the workforce. She's left it all to her husband and he's sort of destroying her reputation. Yeah, this is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[26:00] But this is all the sorts of things that she talks about, all the time.

Speaker 2:
[26:06] As far as what I've heard from actually a couple of people, is that there's a big article coming about Unwell from Variety. They've been working for a while. This is not new. I guess the timing is just crazy. Variety has been working on an article of their own in this same vein. It didn't really seem that this Bloomberg article though, didn't have any first-hand accounts. They didn't have any anonymous sources even. It was just giving vibes. I also feel like it was what you just said. You saw the clip of the production person and you thought it was cute. So they just told it from a different angle.

Speaker 1:
[26:39] They just put all the things that have happened in the last five years in one article, which when you look at it all together, yeah, the three serious shows that launched that didn't even last a year. Just like all of this, I guess, flops, but putting them together when I feel like she's done a really good job, and as you should do in business of obfuscating that thing, moving forward, making the brand seem amazing. It's like, actually, it's kind of smoke and mirrors. But the smoke and mirrors-

Speaker 2:
[27:12] But that's what everyone does, by the way. They make these fake companies that are fake and fake and fake until they actually aren't and then they end up doing quite well. But that's so internet. Everybody is always making their companies, their brands, everything seems so legitimate when it's like a podcast with three listeners.

Speaker 1:
[27:29] And I think the difference for her is because she's gotten so much money from her podcast deals, she can put so much money into one well. So the smoke and mirrors are very expensive smoke and expensive mirrors and they bought themselves a company there. Other people, they don't have that capital to just keep funneling it into the business. But between $60 million from Spotify and 100-ish from Sirius, that's a lot of money to build a company and then get the things that make it successful.

Speaker 2:
[27:58] And I do wonder why that was her angle. I think she is kind of obsessed with being girl boss because why isn't hosting a very, very, very successful podcast? Why isn't that enough? Why do you have to start a whole company with events and products and merch and shows? Why don't you just be the call her daddy girl? That's huge.

Speaker 1:
[28:14] I don't know. That part, I just can't relate to.

Speaker 2:
[28:18] I feel like that was more her husband wanting to be a part of it. We could start a company.

Speaker 1:
[28:22] Yeah. We had to monetize the audience.

Speaker 2:
[28:24] The 60 mil, the 100 mil, that's all funneling this company. Why? That could have just been yours and you could have bought more houses and went on vacation.

Speaker 1:
[28:32] You could have lived on that forever. You would get the 100, the serious deal is like three, how many years and then there'll be another deal.

Speaker 2:
[28:39] The SiriusXM deal is outsized and that's most likely not what she's taking home because it's all these promises of the shows. Remember she launched three radio shows and then four more podcasts. So she owes SiriusXM X amount of downloads per month that she's just not hitting. Her show was very successful, but it was blown up because of all these shows she was going to produce for them. Half of them have been canceled and the other half are just getting by on fumes.

Speaker 1:
[29:03] Yeah, there's not a big hit there, but she'll still make a lot of money.

Speaker 2:
[29:07] Of course. If that was me, I would just be that. I get to interview everyone, anyone I've ever wanted to interview, can come on my show and make a shit ton of money. Who wants all this stuff?

Speaker 1:
[29:19] Yeah, I don't know if that's driven by her, maybe also wanting to eventually exit podcasting. Some people don't want to podcast forever. They want to, if you podcast forever, that's every week you have to work. It's not mailbox money. Maybe you want to set something up so that you can sort of become a behind the scenes person and not have to work so hard. I do feel like maybe that's what she wants is not to podcast forever. That's not everyone's dream.

Speaker 2:
[29:46] Oh my God, couldn't be me.

Speaker 1:
[29:48] I know, but people are different.

Speaker 2:
[29:49] No, you're right, you're right. Sort of like retire into like an investor.

Speaker 1:
[29:55] Yeah, be like a CEO, behind the scenes, like still do your show or whatever. But Bill Simmons, he has plenty of shows.

Speaker 2:
[30:03] Right.

Speaker 1:
[30:04] He's gone. He could be gone. I don't know if he still does his show.

Speaker 2:
[30:07] No, I think he does his show.

Speaker 1:
[30:08] But that's the point.

Speaker 2:
[30:11] That's the thing.

Speaker 1:
[30:11] The Ringer lives beyond him.

Speaker 2:
[30:14] The Ringer started with Bill Simmons and then eventually became this big thing. Call Her Daddy was supposed to turn into this big thing where Call Her Daddy is one in a million of the successful things that the show does. But it didn't happen that way. And so now I bet that Unwell is just sort of this like thorn in her side.

Speaker 1:
[30:31] I don't even, it's not just her side, it's her whole body.

Speaker 2:
[30:35] Well, of course, you know, and these like employees that she has to manage and it's like, you're being mean to me. Like, who wants that?

Speaker 1:
[30:41] Yeah. Yeah, I just, I don't know. It's interesting that it's just all turning. It's also, it's also weird to me.

Speaker 2:
[30:51] Fickle.

Speaker 1:
[30:52] You know?

Speaker 2:
[30:52] It's so, it's happening so quickly. And I do think by the time it sort of settles for her, Sophia will be releasing her book. Like, I just think it's gonna-

Speaker 1:
[31:00] And Alex will be shows coming out.

Speaker 2:
[31:03] Yeah, it's gonna be a bad year, actually. Oh, I feel bad.

Speaker 1:
[31:07] I just, I don't know. I don't know if any of this will actually like touch her, you know?

Speaker 2:
[31:13] Right, and what's today, Tuesday? So like, is the show still coming out? Cause like the show's not about her. So, and it's all pre-recorded, like weeks in advance.

Speaker 1:
[31:21] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[31:23] But if I'm a guest, I'm not dying to be on the show right now.

Speaker 1:
[31:26] Yeah, but she has, well, that's the thing. It's like, I want to say she has a lot of friendships cause like she was friends with Margot Robbie and Miley called her up. But like where are her influencer friends? Like she's had like friends throughout, not friends throughout the years, but people who have come on the show. I don't want to like start naming them, but like-

Speaker 2:
[31:41] I know. So a valid, sorry, not a valid, a common criticism of her, it's just that I think that people say like, speaks to her character. It's that she has like no friends in the industry and the ones that like she did connect with, I'll say their names like, right? Sure. She was friendly with Morgan Stewart.

Speaker 1:
[31:59] Jackie Schimmel.

Speaker 2:
[32:00] Jackie Schimmel. Like LA, like very LA podcaster.

Speaker 1:
[32:03] There was a time when she was having a lot, Hannah Berner and Page were on her show.

Speaker 2:
[32:07] I don't think Hannah Berner and Page were ever her friends, honestly.

Speaker 1:
[32:09] Hannah Berner was on before, like when she was still in New York, Hannah Berner went on a couple of times that even when she moved like, so you can be less close.

Speaker 2:
[32:17] By the way, I feel like it's common knowledge. I feel like Page hates, and I'm just saying this based off of internet. This is not anything that I know. Based off of vibes. I feel like it's like everybody agrees like Page hates Alex Cooper because one time she like interviewed them both and was asking questions about Summer House being like, well, Hannah, like, how do you not like hate Page for staying at Summer House and staying friends with the people who like ruined your life? And Page was like, excuse me. So she was never on Call Her Daddy again. Hannah has been on to like promote her various projects, but I don't feel like they were ever like super friendly, especially because then Alex moved to LA. Like that can be explained away. Like her LA friends. What happened?

Speaker 1:
[32:53] I don't know. And so that's another one where it's like very incongruous with the person she is on her show. That's like, you know, you would never think this person alienates so many people because she's meant to be like you're the girl's girl, big sister, father, and it's like, can't keep a friend?

Speaker 2:
[33:11] I also think that a part of it that needs to be said is, she may not be a girl's girl and she may be like isolating, but I do think on the other side of it, like I think that there are a lot of people in the industry, especially like women in the industry who are like insanely close to the levels of her and would never be her friend for that.

Speaker 1:
[33:27] And those people are like not at her level. And so I'm not even talking about them. You know, I'm sure there's always gonna be people like that. I'm not talking about them, but like the people who have come on her show, who are like at her level, who are, you know, full lives and don't spend their time like being petty and jealous.

Speaker 2:
[33:45] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[33:46] Donde esta?

Speaker 2:
[33:48] Donde esta las amigas?

Speaker 1:
[33:49] Yeah, las amigas chicas.

Speaker 2:
[33:53] Friends for life.

Speaker 1:
[33:55] We'll always have each other.

Speaker 2:
[33:58] That's what keeps us bright. Amigas, cheetahs. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[34:04] I was never an amigas cheetahs, so I'm not talking to me.

Speaker 2:
[34:07] No, no.

Speaker 1:
[34:09] But yeah, just all very curious.

Speaker 2:
[34:12] I know. And it's just bizarre how quickly things flipped for her. And I imagine, had she known that this dumb video with Alex Earle, it's not even about Alex Earle anymore.

Speaker 1:
[34:25] No.

Speaker 2:
[34:26] I forgot about Alex Earle. If she had known, I mean, there's no way to know that it would have opened up this.

Speaker 1:
[34:32] Yeah. And I guess, for so long, all the criticism of her, she's never addressed. It's as if she doesn't see it, and that works for her. And I think it's a pretty good strategy. So to come down to the sewers and address.

Speaker 2:
[34:45] Welcome.

Speaker 1:
[34:46] Well, now she's in the sewers.

Speaker 2:
[34:48] And that's why she shouldn't have gotten involved because she was...

Speaker 1:
[34:51] And so I think, now taking it back, I think ultimately it was a mistake then to do that video.

Speaker 2:
[34:55] Yeah, of course. And even so, I don't really understand someone who very meticulously, for years, positioned herself, she's not a podcaster, she's not an influencer, businesswoman, mogul, marketer, on another level. I wouldn't compare her to... She was Alex Earl's boss, you know, to sort of join, like come down, and they start arguing with girls like younger than you, and it's just bizarre. It just felt incongruous with the plan she had set for herself, it seemed.

Speaker 1:
[35:26] Yeah, yeah. So we'll see. We shall see. Our next story, West Wilson is speaking out about Amanda Batula relationship for the first time. So West was on an episode of his show, Show Me Something, his podcast alongside Sophie Cunningham, and he discusses the drama a bit. He says that there was no overlap. He said, I know there's a thousand different theories on the internet right now, but that is one thing for sure that did not happen. Everyone was single. He went on to explain that Amanda and he realized things were maybe a little bit serious back in February, adding that she has been taking the brunt of the backlash. He said in the clip that her phone number has been leaked and she's been receiving hateful messages. He said, the hardest part, I think, with this whole situation is, my actions have hurt people that I care about. He explained that he intends to give some apologies face to face and clear up all the crazy shit that's been on the Internet at the reunion.

Speaker 2:
[36:23] I love him addressing the one thing. Nobody thinks that, nobody cares. I don't see anyone talking about the timeline. I don't think anybody believes them to have cheated.

Speaker 1:
[36:31] I never really thought that, but it's a little curious watching the season. There's like that sprinkle of, and so I'm glad to know, no, but yeah, great.

Speaker 2:
[36:43] Yeah, like that's the first thing you're addressing. Okay, the episode airs tonight, right? Andy keeps talking about this episode. He said again, like you're gonna have to watch it, like half your eyes closed because it's so cringe.

Speaker 1:
[36:54] Oh my God, what?

Speaker 2:
[36:55] I know, I think I might watch it live with commercials. Like, what is he talking about?

Speaker 1:
[36:58] What is he talking about? The season's not even so teep. Would we find it so cringe if none of this had happened?

Speaker 2:
[37:02] And also, I think Andy kind of backwardsly confirmed that this episode has also been edited since Scamanda. So maybe this was something that they could have tossed.

Speaker 1:
[37:13] But it's like, are they editing in the cringe? I'm also gonna be like, I wanna see both. I wanna see the pre-West Mandeval edit and the West Mandeval edit.

Speaker 2:
[37:23] Yeah, what is it? I hope it's not Alan Cummings 2.0 talking about the feast.

Speaker 1:
[37:29] Yeah, but as for West, of course people always go to extremes, like, you know, the-

Speaker 2:
[37:33] Kill yourself, like, my God.

Speaker 1:
[37:35] No, the 1% of the situation that's like, not a lot of people feel that way. Most people aren't sending her text messages or death.

Speaker 2:
[37:41] No, and Amanda is taking the brunt of the hate, but her crime is worse.

Speaker 1:
[37:45] Yeah, it's true. It's just like crazy that he has a podcast and he has to like go-

Speaker 2:
[37:52] Talk, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[37:52] And are there people who then like listen to the rest of the podcast? You know what I mean? I don't know, that's a good question. And like are going to listen to next week's podcast?

Speaker 2:
[38:02] I think there are people who finished out the episode, like just in case you said something else. I don't know if they're going to tune in next week.

Speaker 1:
[38:09] And who are those people? Maybe they love Sophie Cunningham.

Speaker 2:
[38:14] Well, it's like a sports podcast before it's a Scamandival podcast.

Speaker 1:
[38:18] Yeah, I guess they love sports too.

Speaker 2:
[38:22] And maybe they're keeping up with sports.

Speaker 1:
[38:24] Well, they should be. I'm also like officially off of keeping up with sports because like...

Speaker 2:
[38:29] Yeah, because fuck Lamar. Did you see Chloe?

Speaker 1:
[38:31] Yeah, I did.

Speaker 2:
[38:32] Fuck Lamar. She, I guess, had... I was saying on the podcast, like he was being really weird and honest about his marriage in the documentary. I guess Chloe had no idea. She sat down out of the goodness of her heart. She said she was not paid, but Lamar was doing this documentary and they asked her and she said yes. She had no idea that he was in the other room doing his testimonial saying it was like a fake marriage and he was just using her for fame and it was so fun to be so famous. She went on her podcast being like, seriously, fuck you. I gave you my time, my energy, you bitch, and you're just over there talking shit about me. She had no idea what he was saying in the documentary. I agree. I thought it was weird.

Speaker 1:
[39:05] I don't want Keeping Up With Sports to come out anymore, which means it's coming out tomorrow now.

Speaker 2:
[39:09] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:11] You know who needs a podcast like Caitlin and Scott?

Speaker 2:
[39:17] Where is Scott? I haven't seen him in so long.

Speaker 1:
[39:19] I think they should start a podcast with cultural commentary. Fast Five, Hot Takes.

Speaker 2:
[39:25] I'm all set, honestly.

Speaker 1:
[39:27] No, I think it would be.

Speaker 2:
[39:28] Let's leave the Fast Five to us. I feel like people come and go. They try to do pop culture. They try to... The Toast is supreme. Let's just leave it alone. Just leave it. We should be on NPR. We shouldn't be on public radio. We should be everywhere. It's a human right to listen to Toast.

Speaker 1:
[39:43] I'll make space for Caitlin and Scott.

Speaker 2:
[39:45] I won't.

Speaker 1:
[39:45] Just them. Only them.

Speaker 2:
[39:47] I won't.

Speaker 1:
[39:48] Our next story, some exciting news regarding what we were discussing yesterday, The Devil Wears Prada 2 premiere, Red Carpet. So I guess the movie is coming out imminently.

Speaker 2:
[39:59] So I guess it's this week, right? I would assume. I'm going to get tickets.

Speaker 1:
[40:03] The world premiere of Devil Wears Prada took place yesterday, and everyone looks seriously pargy.

Speaker 2:
[40:09] It's giving movie that feels like a real movie.

Speaker 1:
[40:13] It's giving global event.

Speaker 2:
[40:15] It's giving OG, like I see them all doing press in like press junkets. It's just giving Hollywood glam.

Speaker 1:
[40:22] Yeah, and looked amazing. She's probably my best dress as she should be because it's, you know, her movie.

Speaker 2:
[40:28] She is like a fashion killer. She's and this is obviously her moment. And it's a movie about fashion. So it was a lot of pressure. The dress was perfect. It looked like the logo of the movie with the horns. Like it was brilliant. Emily Blunt looked insane. Like I appreciate everybody showing up and showing out.

Speaker 1:
[40:44] Yeah, Meryl looked great and also very like Miranda-like. Anna Wintour was there. Lady Gaga was there.

Speaker 2:
[40:51] What's Lady Gaga's involvement? She must be in the movie.

Speaker 1:
[40:53] She has a song on the album with Doachie.

Speaker 2:
[40:56] Oh, I love that.

Speaker 1:
[40:57] Yeah, it already came out.

Speaker 2:
[40:59] Oh.

Speaker 1:
[41:00] But she's on the soundtrack. So that's a little-

Speaker 2:
[41:01] I didn't even think about the soundtrack. Like, did they make it like, you know, buzzy? Are there other people on it? Or is it just one song?

Speaker 1:
[41:06] I guess we'll have to wait till maybe it comes out on Friday, but I just saw that one song.

Speaker 2:
[41:10] And by the way, they have to start the movie with Suddenly I See, right? Like, that's so iconic.

Speaker 1:
[41:16] It is iconic.

Speaker 2:
[41:17] And it's like Andy getting dressed and she's not like fugly anymore.

Speaker 1:
[41:20] Hopefully it will be in there in some capacity. And then there's gonna be so many cameos. So I think also like a lot of the people on the carpet probably are in the movie in some way. Lots of models, you know, Winnie Harlow.

Speaker 2:
[41:30] Barbara Palvin.

Speaker 1:
[41:31] Barbara Palvin, Heidi Klum.

Speaker 2:
[41:34] Did you see that somebody asked Barbara Palvin and Dylan Sprouse about their, you know, that their home was broken into?

Speaker 1:
[41:40] Yes, actually, it's our next story.

Speaker 2:
[41:42] Oh, okay. Oh, anything else?

Speaker 1:
[41:47] Star Study.

Speaker 2:
[41:47] Yeah, anything else?

Speaker 1:
[41:48] From the premiere.

Speaker 2:
[41:50] Has anybody said anything about the actual film? Like, is it good? I'm so nervous, you guys. Like, I'm so hyped up for this. Like, the movie means, I was watching people get, like, interviewed on the red carpet and just like, no matter who you are, like, the movie is a core part of people our age as childhood. It's such an important movie. And like, if they fuck it up, I'll be so pissed.

Speaker 1:
[42:09] Yeah, I guess we'll have to ask people who saw it last night at the premiere.

Speaker 2:
[42:13] Maybe I'll ask Hannah Berner.

Speaker 1:
[42:14] Was she at the premiere?

Speaker 2:
[42:15] Yeah, because I think Page is in the movie. And so they were, like, showing up for Page and Hannah looked great. And maybe I'll ask, like, she always does.

Speaker 1:
[42:25] She always does, thank you.

Speaker 2:
[42:26] And also, do you feel like Page was wearing the same dress as Anne Hathaway?

Speaker 1:
[42:31] Her dress was very similar to Anne Hathaway. I guess it's like, you know, the fresh new silhouette. And I thought-

Speaker 2:
[42:35] It's the silhouette of the moment.

Speaker 1:
[42:37] It's the silhouette of the moment. And that's a major slay.

Speaker 2:
[42:39] On Page's part.

Speaker 1:
[42:40] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:42] But like, I need people to talk about the film.

Speaker 1:
[42:44] Right.

Speaker 2:
[42:45] Was it good?

Speaker 1:
[42:47] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:47] I'll let you guys know. Like, my ass is going. Yeah. Maybe there's like an early screening Thursday night so I could talk about it on The Toast. Like, I'm getting a sitter. I'm going.

Speaker 1:
[42:54] Great. Maybe I'll go this weekend.

Speaker 2:
[42:57] Yes. Maybe your husband could finally use the gift I got for him for Secret Santa the year before last, which was an annual movie pass. He gets two tickets a month and he hasn't used any of them.

Speaker 1:
[43:07] But it was one year, years ago.

Speaker 2:
[43:10] It was a one year. Okay. Like a hundred dollars down the drain.

Speaker 1:
[43:13] I'll pay for the movie ticket.

Speaker 2:
[43:15] Oh, you're treating?

Speaker 1:
[43:16] Big spender. Our next story, after mention, Dylan Sprouse gives a surprising reaction to tackling the home invader at his Hollywood Hills home with Barbara Palvin. So big story that actually just didn't make it this week because so far it's been a crazy week, but Dylan Sprouse and Barbara Palvin's Hollywood Hills, California home was burglarized by police and tempted to as a home invader tried to break into their estate and Dylan tackled him and held him at gunpoint before the police arrived.

Speaker 2:
[43:45] This is so hot. Like this is so hot. To me, he's always been the superior twin, not to like put twin against twin, but like Cole would never do this. And I'm sorry, like a man defending his home, his wife is inside.

Speaker 1:
[43:57] With his own body and physical self.

Speaker 2:
[44:01] It's so sickeningly hot. Like, I just love this. I love this.

Speaker 1:
[44:07] So he was asked about it.

Speaker 2:
[44:08] And he tackled the guy and he called the police.

Speaker 1:
[44:09] And it was Dylan's gun?

Speaker 2:
[44:12] Uh-huh, he's a gun owner.

Speaker 1:
[44:14] He's a gun owner. Nicely done.

Speaker 2:
[44:16] But I feel like it's crazy for LA.

Speaker 1:
[44:18] I feel like you can have a firearm. It's probably just that you have to jump through a lot of hoops.

Speaker 2:
[44:22] No, I feel like actually a lot of people in LA have guns because of the coyotes.

Speaker 1:
[44:26] Yeah, but you can own one, but it's not like, it's a congress with a Hollywood star. Yeah. Well, they always say one thing and do another, so that's congress. I don't know what he says, but anyways, he has a gun, he's not afraid to use it. Anyway, he said, I thought it was pretty funny. When the interviewer asked if it was too soon to joke about it, he replied, this is actually to my detriment, I'm really not a too soon guy in general. We're laughing at things the moment they happen. He said, you have to have some levity in life, and thankfully no one was hurt and there was no more violence than what happened, and so it's all okay.

Speaker 2:
[45:00] That's a really nutty response. I also saw somebody ask him about it and he didn't answer, he just went like this, like doing fake karate. I love them. I think they're one of the best couples in Hollywood. They're so underrated.

Speaker 1:
[45:16] But I think it's so exciting that they caught the guy because had this guy burglarized homes before.

Speaker 2:
[45:21] Maybe he's Jerry Kempfley's.

Speaker 1:
[45:22] Does he run in a network of burglaries? Can you go to his house and find her Birkin?

Speaker 2:
[45:26] Crack the case wide open.

Speaker 1:
[45:27] I think this is really major. They never find people who do burglaries.

Speaker 2:
[45:30] No, maybe they're going to go to his house and find the jewelry that Kyle Richards' mother gave to her.

Speaker 1:
[45:35] So I hope that police are digging a little deeper.

Speaker 2:
[45:38] Digging this seriously.

Speaker 1:
[45:39] I don't know why I feel like they're not. I feel like they're just going to let him go.

Speaker 2:
[45:46] And all of Dylan's hard work for nothing just to release him.

Speaker 1:
[45:50] It doesn't seem like he's not like, and lock him up and throw away the keys.

Speaker 2:
[45:53] It's a traumatic moment. Maybe he's working through it.

Speaker 1:
[45:58] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[45:58] He's in shock.

Speaker 1:
[46:00] Yeah. Barbara said they're dealing with the trauma with jokes and fun and all of that.

Speaker 2:
[46:06] I love Babs. Babs and Dill.

Speaker 1:
[46:08] Yeah. Very cute.

Speaker 2:
[46:10] They're such an underrated couple.

Speaker 1:
[46:11] They are, but that's what keeps them great.

Speaker 2:
[46:14] I agree. Stay under the radar.

Speaker 1:
[46:17] When we remember, we're pleased. There's not a lot of pressure on them. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[46:22] No, they're just good.

Speaker 1:
[46:23] It's all love.

Speaker 2:
[46:24] It's all good.

Speaker 1:
[46:25] You know, you get too big and people start to hate.

Speaker 2:
[46:27] Lots of pressure too, to like stay together. I believe that's what happened to Paige and Craig. It was a part of it, I think, honestly. I think like people loved them too much. I remember when like Craig came on the show and they had just started dating, we were like, you can never break up.

Speaker 1:
[46:38] Yeah, that's a lot of pressure. That's a lot.

Speaker 2:
[46:40] But in addition to them like genuinely being incompatible towards the end, I think that was a part of it.

Speaker 1:
[46:45] But do you think that sometimes that keeps you together a little bit? Like so many people love us and believe in us. Like I should love us and believe in us too.

Speaker 2:
[46:54] No, I think more often than not, it has like an adverse effect. Then you like start to hate the thing that like everybody loves.

Speaker 1:
[47:00] Interesting.

Speaker 2:
[47:02] Just a thought.

Speaker 1:
[47:02] Well, I've officially moved on from them, you know.

Speaker 2:
[47:05] Yeah, no, I actually think they're better apart than together now.

Speaker 1:
[47:08] What were they ever doing together?

Speaker 2:
[47:09] Yeah, it's actually insane that they were ever together.

Speaker 1:
[47:12] It is true. But I've healed.

Speaker 2:
[47:17] Me too.

Speaker 1:
[47:17] Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
[53:15] Thank you, Turtbiotics.

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Speaker 1:
[53:18] Our fifth and final story, new book news. Nara Smith has announced that she is writing a cookbook. It is called Homemade and will feature a lot of her viral recipes with everything from scratch.

Speaker 2:
[53:34] The cover is sickening. It's like very high fashion.

Speaker 1:
[53:36] Yeah. She's like a dress and a table.

Speaker 2:
[53:39] Obviously, she cooks online, so a cookbook is a natural next step. But I thought the whole thing is that her recipes are highly inaccessible and unrelatable, and she makes her own lotion.

Speaker 1:
[53:52] Yeah. It will be interesting to see what she actually puts in the book. And also, I would love to know how she got to this level of expert cook. Because as I watch her videos over the years, I just assume she's looking everything up and just making it for shits and giggles. And not everything is part of her actual personal recipe. So I hope the book gets a little personal in terms of sharing what she makes. I know she's also going to share some recipes from her childhood, growing up in Germany.

Speaker 2:
[54:21] So I was watching stuff from The Devil Wears Prada premiere, and they had this little girl, you know that little girl who does red carbon interviews and she's sassy?

Speaker 1:
[54:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[54:29] She was asking everyone, what's the line from Devil Wears Prada that you quote the most? And there were a couple of key, everyone was like saying, Gertrude Lloyds, everyone was saying, by all means, move at a glacial pace, you know how that thrills me. And then they were asking like lots of celebrities, and Nara was like, oh, I don't know. Like, yeah, it was like kind of a bad answer. And everyone's like, wait, how do you not know? Like you're at the premiere, first of all, and second of all, like, do you not know the movie?

Speaker 1:
[54:55] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[54:56] So there's just something like inherently like cold and like distant about her. And I feel like, yeah. And I feel like a cookbook is so like warm, inviting friends, family, dinner party. So I could see this book being really successful because the cover is really pretty and it being more of like an aesthetic coffee table book than an actual practical application of policy.

Speaker 1:
[55:16] Yeah. But I'm expecting it to be practical, like things that you can actually make. And I think the point is, I mean, she definitely makes them extravagant on her Instagram. Like some things, it's not as hard as you think to make it homemade or make it from scratch. And there's so much reward in that. So I hope the book just goes a little deeper. And I'm actually surprised that she's doing a cookbook because I feel like as much as her content is about cooking, like it's so not.

Speaker 2:
[55:42] It's like not.

Speaker 1:
[55:43] It's not.

Speaker 2:
[55:43] It's about like fashion.

Speaker 1:
[55:45] Yeah. And it's like irony and it's like satire and. Right.

Speaker 2:
[55:50] I don't know what it is, honestly.

Speaker 1:
[55:52] Yeah. And I feel like this is very obvious for a person who cooks on the Internet, but not obvious for her. I know.

Speaker 2:
[56:00] I would have expected more a memoir first.

Speaker 1:
[56:02] I'm curious what the tone of the inside of the book will be. And I think there's a lot of potential for it to be really great and educational and fabulous. But I think she's got to dig like a little deeper, you know. People don't just let people into their homes like because we like your videos. It's true.

Speaker 2:
[56:19] It's true. To get that like next step is it's crucial.

Speaker 1:
[56:23] Yeah. And like she doesn't always share her recipe. So have people made her recipes before? Is her food good? We don't know.

Speaker 2:
[56:31] No clue. That's what I mean. Like, you know, I feel like the type of stuff that does really well is like 30 minute meals, family dinners, like things that are actually practical for everyday life. And I wouldn't say that anything that she does is practical or relatable. And that's why she's been so successful in terms of the Internet, like virality. But a cookbook, I don't know, this kind of makes like no sense.

Speaker 1:
[56:52] No, I think that it does, the way that she does it is not practical and relatable, like being in high fashion, but that's just like pargy. But I think people like the idea of making things from scratch. Like once you've done it, you're like, you know what, it's not as hard as I thought it would be. And it's so rewarding. So I think a cookbook of everything from scratch, I actually don't own one. I would like one. But we need to know a little bit more like about and that's how I felt about Meghan Markle too, like, when did you learn how to cook? Why did you learn how to cook? Like, how did you learn how to cook from scratch, Nara Smith? Like, where did you learn these? Did you grow up with them? Like, I just want to know more about the person that I'm like now making their food because, you know, food is so personal. It's more personal than comedy. So but I also think there's a lot of potential in terms of like actually the content.

Speaker 2:
[57:36] Right.

Speaker 1:
[57:37] And so far, the cover, the title. What do you think of the title?

Speaker 2:
[57:41] Homemade.

Speaker 1:
[57:42] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[57:43] It's good.

Speaker 1:
[57:45] Is that what you want to dump for her?

Speaker 2:
[57:46] Like, is there not a book called that already?

Speaker 1:
[57:49] I don't know. And there's not even like a subtitle.

Speaker 2:
[57:52] No, a lot of people, I feel like on the internet, do like their catchphrase.

Speaker 1:
[57:57] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[57:58] What's hers?

Speaker 1:
[58:00] What is hers?

Speaker 2:
[58:01] From scratch.

Speaker 1:
[58:02] Like it's always like something about from scratch, but I guess scratch is a weird word.

Speaker 2:
[58:06] It's just not pargy. Homemade is like pretty.

Speaker 1:
[58:08] Like decided to make it from scratch. It should be called like from scratch. It's really her tagline, but okay, homemade sure. It's the same thing.

Speaker 2:
[58:15] Synonym, synonym.

Speaker 1:
[58:16] And it's a nice word, homemade. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[58:18] No, it looks like a coffee table book. All right. Let's dive into Dear Toaster's, our weekly advice segment where I choose to help people. I am a helper. I am a philanthropist. It's our weekly advice segment. So if you ever thought like, oh, I'm in a pickle, I'm in a bind with my friend or at work and I would love to get advice from Claudia and Jackie. They're so smart and wise. You actually can every Wednesday or Tuesday whenever we feel like it. Email us, deertoasters.gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Are you ready?

Speaker 1:
[58:45] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[58:46] There's some kind of crazy ones today. Oh yeah, okay. Which one should I do first? This one really bothered me. Hey, girlies, please help before I kill my husband. For context, I'm 22 years old, freshly postpartum and I'm just still figuring everything out, like breastfeeding, et cetera. The other day, my husband asked me to send his friend, Josh, a text RSVPing to his son's birthday party while he was driving. As soon as I clicked on his contact, I was appalled. There were multiple text threads of my husband saying how terrible I smell because of the breast milk, how quote disgusting my old lady bra is. His friend mentioned buying me lingerie to quote, take the hint. I handed him his phone back with the messages still up, but he never mentioned it. I have been waiting for the right time to bring it up and it will have to see Josh at the party this Saturday. Please help a girl out.

Speaker 1:
[59:30] Oh my God, that makes me like feel sick.

Speaker 2:
[59:33] I don't even care about Josh.

Speaker 1:
[59:34] Oh, I don't care about Josh. She, Josh, who cares about Josh? It sounds like Josh isn't even that big of a piece of shit. Like your husband is.

Speaker 2:
[59:41] No, he was the one who suggested the lingerie, but like whatever, that's, who cares about Josh? Like Josh is irrelevant.

Speaker 1:
[59:47] Your husband is a piece of shit.

Speaker 2:
[59:49] I know, I don't know how to tell you this, but like you have a bad husband. Like that's really, really bad. I think that like a lot of husbands like do and say things that are like mean or whatever, but having someone who does that like at postpartum, like the crime is probably 50 times worse. Like let's say you had read his texts, like you weren't pregnant, you just read his texts and he's like, my wife wears a smelly bra or whatever, like so bad. This is 75 times worse. First of all, anybody who's talking about their spouse to an outside party, you're like, you're dead to me.

Speaker 1:
[60:24] You're a piece of shit.

Speaker 2:
[60:27] Your spouse who's 22 years old in postpartum, I have to tell you girl, I hate your fucking husband.

Speaker 1:
[60:33] I hate your husband.

Speaker 2:
[60:34] If it's on site, like I'm literally knocking to fucking front teeth out. He's disgusting. And like, I don't know what to tell you because like you have a really bad husband. Now he obviously didn't kill anyone. He didn't cheat on you, but he might as well have like, you have such a bad husband. I don't know what to tell you because you're 22 years old in your postpartum and I don't want you to be alone, but like you're better off alone. And then with somebody who does this, like I'm sorry, I hate your fucking husband. He's a bad guy.

Speaker 1:
[60:59] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[61:00] And guys who do stuff like this, there's other stuff.

Speaker 1:
[61:03] Yeah, this is just one thing.

Speaker 2:
[61:04] I'm sorry, guys who are obsessed with sex after the wife gives birth and like, you know, who are like, can't wait to get to that six week appointment. Six week? It should be six months. Like I hate men like that. And like when a woman shows up to her six week appointment, pregnant, you know, I've seen that on TikTok. It's like, it's so bad. Like, unless obviously that's what you wanted and you're happy and like you were the one initiating the sex, good for you, but like, I just don't buy it. Like, you have such an, like you have an evil husband.

Speaker 1:
[61:34] Yeah, you have an evil husband. Focus on yourself at this moment. Like, you don't have to make-

Speaker 2:
[61:38] Focus on your baby.

Speaker 1:
[61:39] You don't have to do anything big right now. You don't have to leave your husband. You don't have to deal with this. Like, I mean, if you want to have a conversation about it and see what he says, go ahead, but he's a piece of shit. So he'll say something shitty, I'm sure. I don't know that that's a way to like cure him of this or make him understand that he's a piece of shit.

Speaker 2:
[61:54] I think there are a lot of women who have bad, really bad people for partners. And they don't know that how, like how evil and bad.

Speaker 1:
[62:03] And one day they're stunned by something that they do.

Speaker 2:
[62:06] So you know that you have a really bad husband. You know that. Do with that information what you want.

Speaker 1:
[62:14] Yeah, I don't know what kind of person you are, like how much you can compartmentalize, how much you can like, would you rather be alone?

Speaker 2:
[62:22] Put up with.

Speaker 1:
[62:22] I don't really know. So you know yourself, focus on the people around you who do love you, family, friends, ignore him. He's a piece of shit. And just focus on your baby right now. And all will be clear in time, but you don't have to make any big decisions. But you know, it's good to know who people are. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[62:39] Knowledge is truly power. That's how like, you're right. Some women have no idea and they get so blindsided, like years down the road being like, but we were so happy. Oh, really? Your husband was evil the whole time.

Speaker 1:
[62:48] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[62:50] So yeah, you don't have to do anything yet, especially your postpartum. And like, if you want to like give him a shot, like, yeah, sure. Talk it out. Sure. Maybe you're both really young. Maybe, maybe. But how a man treats you when you're like sick, when you're postpartum, like just really speaks volumes about the person that he is.

Speaker 1:
[63:06] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[63:07] Unfortunately for you.

Speaker 1:
[63:09] That's just some loser named Josh about it. Like I'm, it's two crimes. One that he even thinks that way about you when you've just given birth. Not like that you're the miracle that you are.

Speaker 2:
[63:20] Two that he said it out loud.

Speaker 1:
[63:21] Two that he said it to some random fucking loser.

Speaker 2:
[63:25] And then three, Josh.

Speaker 1:
[63:26] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[63:27] Josh. All right, are you ready for our next one? Totally different. Hi, guys, I am an everyday Salt Lake City listener here with a crazy situation. Long story short, my brother got into a motorcycle accident and has been in a coma since July of 2025. He's been transferred to many different hospitals at this point. And at one of them, a nurse on staff started taking a liking to my brother. Keep in mind, he was never her patient. He's now at a hospital that she does not work out, but she drives the hour or so commute and visits him alone very often. She visits him on her days off, touches him, cries over him, pokes and prods him and explains that the second she passed his room and saw him, again, he was not her patient, they had a special connection. I know my brother would hate her. She is also like, quote, happily married. The problem is my dad likes her. He thinks his behavior is normal. Everyone else thinks it's absolutely insane and inappropriate and we really don't know what to do. Love you guys. Signed a toaster and disbelief.

Speaker 1:
[64:22] That's fucking crazy. And it doesn't even matter if your dad is into it.

Speaker 2:
[64:28] This is documentary fodder.

Speaker 1:
[64:30] Yeah. She needs to watch. Why is she even on the visitors list? Right.

Speaker 2:
[64:35] Well, I do think you can just waltz into it. It's not like jail, where you have to be on a certain list.

Speaker 1:
[64:40] But you can't just walk into someone's hospital room.

Speaker 2:
[64:43] I actually think you can.

Speaker 1:
[64:45] You check in, you say, I'm here to see so and so.

Speaker 2:
[64:48] Yeah. But I think you can just visit a friend.

Speaker 1:
[64:52] Of course, but they have to approve you. I guess it's hard when a person's in a coma.

Speaker 2:
[64:56] I don't think that they do.

Speaker 1:
[64:59] I think that they do.

Speaker 2:
[65:00] It's not prison. There's not like an approved list.

Speaker 1:
[65:02] I think you could tell the hospital, like this person can't come, because everybody has to be checked in, ID, everything.

Speaker 2:
[65:09] Yeah, she's checking in. She's not flying under the radar.

Speaker 1:
[65:12] If you say this person can't come.

Speaker 2:
[65:14] Yeah, I imagine you can say that. But then I think maybe like the police get involved. This is really spooky. I do think like you shouldn't let this go. This woman's obviously mentally fucking ill.

Speaker 1:
[65:24] Yeah, and like this is really-

Speaker 2:
[65:25] And sorry to your dad, but it's too bad.

Speaker 1:
[65:27] And I'm sure for your dad, like he loves his son and someone loves his son, but like she never even met him. Like-

Speaker 2:
[65:34] No, Jackie, this is giving a truly crazy, like, delusional.

Speaker 1:
[65:37] This is like so far beyond us. Like you need to speak to the authorities, doctors, and like people who know about this world to know that like this is not okay.

Speaker 2:
[65:47] It's kind of giving like a grift, right? I don't know what her angle is. She's either like crazy and actually like thinks that this person's talking to her, but she's probably like schizophrenic and needs like help. Or this is like a con, right? Like you get close to a family, you need money, like something like that.

Speaker 1:
[66:03] All of a sudden she's marrying him and he's in a coma.

Speaker 2:
[66:06] Right, right. And then she's pulling the plug.

Speaker 1:
[66:08] Yeah, and she gets the fortune.

Speaker 2:
[66:11] Yeah, this actually could be quite dangerous. Obviously we've seen way too many episodes of Law & Order, but like I would actually, and especially if everybody's on your side, like get her away.

Speaker 1:
[66:19] I'm sorry, no part of this is normal or cute or sweet.

Speaker 2:
[66:23] No, and where is your brother's wife?

Speaker 1:
[66:26] He's married?

Speaker 2:
[66:26] Maybe she's just like, yeah. Oh no, no, sorry, sorry, sorry. She's married, she's married. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you and your mom and the auntie is like, you guys need to get this girl out. A classic, your dad is like obsessed with her. Like men are so stupid, like.

Speaker 1:
[66:39] I really think she's pretty.

Speaker 2:
[66:41] He's getting like taken for a ride by this random nurse.

Speaker 1:
[66:43] The funniest part is she's saying your brother would hate her. Imagine he wakes up from his coma and like she's there and she's like, I'm your girlfriend.

Speaker 2:
[66:50] Where's Catherine?

Speaker 1:
[66:51] No, she's like, I'm your girlfriend. And he like doesn't remember. So he thinks that like this person's his girlfriend.

Speaker 2:
[66:56] This is literally what Edie did to Mike in Desperate Housewives when he got into a coma and like lost his memory.

Speaker 1:
[67:00] At least they fucking knew each other before.

Speaker 2:
[67:03] Yeah. Oh, funny. Okay. Third and final. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:
[67:08] When people accuse Dear Toasters of not being real, like that's not helping.

Speaker 2:
[67:12] Who could, AI could never generate something like that.

Speaker 1:
[67:14] That's not helping the Dear Toasters truth or allegations.

Speaker 2:
[67:18] Oh, I disagree. I disagree. Like this is something only like, who could, no one can even think of something so crazy. Do you know what? It has to happen.

Speaker 1:
[67:26] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[67:27] All right. Third and final. Hey, Swirly's, I desperately need your advice. I started dating this guy. And so naturally I decided to Google him just to see if anything crazy popped up. Well, I almost wish I didn't because I found an article from about 10 years ago where he was being interviewed for a foundation supporting members of the military that are addicted to porn. In this article, he spoke of his past experience with porn addiction. He's self-diagnosed while in the army. Now, this is weird, right? He hasn't mentioned this yet, and who knows if he ever will. So my questions are one, how do I bring it up to him that I've seen this article? Two, would this be a deal breaker for you? We've only been dating a couple of months, so should I run or is this not a big deal or uncommon? I just want to say, I think there's nothing wrong with this. I know that sounds crazy, but I think a lot of modern adult males are addicted to porn. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[68:14] Even if it's not what you think of as an addict, they are addicted to porn, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[68:19] Actually, a submission that I didn't choose was, I saw this guy watching porn on an airplane. I think that the modern access to porn is a real addiction, so somebody who can acknowledge that and then seek help and not be embarrassed of it, I don't know, it kind of speaks to his character. I just want to say, yeah, we could be judgmental, like, oh, you are addicted to porn, but I think that a lot of young adult males are addicted to porn and they don't even know it, and it makes them crazy, and it's like screen time for adults, like, it's insane. So, I don't know, I think it kind of speaks, like, people who can grow, I don't know, I kind of like, like, obviously, it's not like the sexiest thing ever, but-

Speaker 1:
[68:54] It's not ideal, but it's workable.

Speaker 2:
[68:57] Yeah, unless you, like, I can't answer the question for you, like, should you run, but yeah, you could see this as like, itchy if you want it, or you could see, like, the beautiful parts of it, honestly.

Speaker 1:
[69:07] And like, and historically, it's kind of hard to get a boyfriend and, like, find someone who you like.

Speaker 2:
[69:12] Historically, historically, it is hard to get a boyfriend.

Speaker 1:
[69:17] And so you don't just, like, throw them away, like, because there's a blemish.

Speaker 2:
[69:21] That's why I hate it culture, because you throw away, like, good human beings for, like, dumb things. Meanwhile, like, they cheat on you and that's not an Ick.

Speaker 1:
[69:29] And so, like, I think things are always going to come up, blemishes. People are human beings. They've lived entire lives, like, before they ever met you. And then you have to, like, see if that's something that you can live with, or that's just too far for you. And I don't think that this is. I don't.

Speaker 2:
[69:43] No, I think there are a lot of women who are, like, actively married to porn addicts. And then, like, they can't even be intimate without it. Like, I don't know. I don't hate this, I just want to say. Like, it's be, like, I love someone who can, like, self-actualize and grow. And, like, and then want to help others. Look, he's speaking.

Speaker 1:
[69:59] And, like, to our service. And by the way, like, thank you for your service. How about that? Like, he was in the fucking military.

Speaker 2:
[70:03] Thank you for your service. Oh, he was in the military. And this article's from 10 years ago. So, like, maybe he was even in Iraq, you know? And there's so much going on, and he's taking on himself.

Speaker 1:
[70:11] And others.

Speaker 2:
[70:13] I think that's beautiful. I have no problem with this. I just want to say.

Speaker 1:
[70:15] And now in thinking about it, like, I'm sure porn is an issue in the military.

Speaker 2:
[70:20] Of course. Is that a girl in sight? Well, you know, there are, like, I mean, like, romantic partners.

Speaker 1:
[70:25] I never thought about it.

Speaker 2:
[70:27] Yeah, it can be easy to become addicted.

Speaker 1:
[70:29] And they're already, you know, it's a very mentally...

Speaker 2:
[70:31] Tough. They're isolated.

Speaker 1:
[70:33] Yeah, so, well, thank you for your service, part two, on helping our servicemen and women.

Speaker 2:
[70:38] And I think you should stay with him. Like, if you don't like him, sure. But, like, it sounds like you do, and, like, this is throwing a wrench in your plans. And I think it's fine.

Speaker 1:
[70:47] I think it's fine. And I think it's fine. I think you're fine. Like, oh, and as far as do you bring it up...

Speaker 2:
[70:53] No, no, no.

Speaker 1:
[70:55] You don't want to look at it.

Speaker 2:
[70:56] Let him.

Speaker 1:
[70:56] Yeah, and it's obviously a sensitive subject. You wrote in about it. We can acknowledge it's sensitive. So, in his time...

Speaker 2:
[71:02] In his time, it's only been, you said, four or five months.

Speaker 1:
[71:04] If he just told you and you didn't know it, how would you react? Probably like not good. So, at least now you can react as the supportive partner that you want to be.

Speaker 2:
[71:12] Yeah, wife material. Because it's hard to get a guy, historically.

Speaker 1:
[71:16] Historically, it's hard to get a guy.

Speaker 2:
[71:19] Historically.

Speaker 1:
[71:19] So, you know, just throw one away. You think about it first.

Speaker 2:
[71:21] I agree, I agree. Especially when he was in the military, he's obviously in tip-top shape.

Speaker 1:
[71:25] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[71:26] Loves his country.

Speaker 1:
[71:28] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[71:30] All right, well, that was Dear Toasters. Thank you to everyone who wrote in. Hopefully we were a little bit helpful. And that is our show. Thank you so much for listening to The Toast of the Millennium Morning Show, where we deliver the Fast Five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We are also available as a podcast. Anywhere podcasts can be found. So at Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Video, Iovated, CastBox, all the places, web news and podcasts, find us at Toast. We give you a five story view about how beautiful, stunning and wickedly talented we are. It's actually insane that like every platform I list is like defunct.

Speaker 1:
[71:57] That's just, I think, speaks to how long we've been doing this and how we will outlive these platforms.

Speaker 2:
[72:07] What do I say? I said, where are we going to put it? Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher.

Speaker 1:
[72:11] iTunes is Apple Podcasts. The podcast.

Speaker 2:
[72:13] Yeah, Stitcher, public radio, our radio, CastBox. I'm screaming these were the places like actually 10 years ago.

Speaker 1:
[72:22] I feel like it's time for an update.

Speaker 2:
[72:25] You think it's actually like embarrassing. We're kind of aging ourselves.

Speaker 1:
[72:28] Sort of like it's Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube.

Speaker 2:
[72:32] YouTube.

Speaker 1:
[72:34] Yeah. And if you listen on another platform, like, please let us know.

Speaker 2:
[72:38] Oh, sound off in the comments. Where do you watch The Toast?

Speaker 1:
[72:41] It's probably just sound off in the comment section that we've never seen before, because we've never like we I look at Spotify comments. And they all listen on Spotify and Instagram comments. Shit. So go sound off on the Stitcher comments.

Speaker 2:
[72:53] Can't wait to see you there.

Speaker 1:
[72:55] Have a great day on Stitcher.

Speaker 2:
[72:57] Love ya. Bye.