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Speaker 1:
[00:31] Thank you, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2:
[00:32] Of course, last time we did the election night, you were a star.

Speaker 1:
[00:35] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[00:35] You and Cenk established a very unique bond together that night.

Speaker 1:
[00:39] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[00:39] A relationship that will be around forever.

Speaker 1:
[00:42] I don't think he's very happy about this. Yeah, thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 2:
[00:47] How are things? How have you been?

Speaker 1:
[00:48] Very good, thank you, busy. We had our own election, presidency, winning, and yeah, better and better. I can't really complain. There are things going on around the world and in Europe, which are not the best and we need to fix a few things. But from our mind, personal, and point of view, I think we are doing better and better. I know that you have a rough time in the US. I can see the vision, the MAGA movement, and I see different views, and people are unhappy about some things. So it's a lot of things going on in Europe as well, which are connected to the US. I'm very happy about it.

Speaker 2:
[01:33] How do you see that in America? When you're seeing the MAGA movement, there's different things being said, how do you process yourself as an outsider?

Speaker 1:
[01:41] Okay, so I'm not going to give you my political opinion yet. I had so many things to say. I was thinking, what should I say? How do I see things before we met, right? I was on the way from Miami. We stopped for a burger. I'm not going to say the name of the company. We stopped for a burger and the lady was so nice and happy. How are you? Are you from Poland? This and that. Beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[02:11] She doesn't know who you are.

Speaker 1:
[02:12] She didn't know. And then she went, oh, what's the name for the order, right? We don't do that in Poland. Some people would say that they have privacy. Some people, they do, but mostly in Poland, we don't do it. So I went with a joke. Donald Trump and her face changed suddenly in a way I cannot even describe.

Speaker 2:
[02:33] Good or bad?

Speaker 1:
[02:34] Really bad.

Speaker 2:
[02:35] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[02:36] Really bad. And then I thought, we're not fighting with the flesh. And when someone is trying to criticize Mr. Trump, I always will tell this story. Her face was kind of demonic. I'm serious. It's hard to describe. So I don't think she was a MAGA movement. Definitely not. But what I meant by this story, I think we forgot and many people in MAGA movement forgot what was this fight about, how happy, how beautiful this day was. I remember election night with you. Everyone was so happy. And we've got this year or two when people forgot that we could have Biden or Kamala in power. And we would have demonic laws in US. You can criticize President Trump for many things. You might disagree. But from my perspective, the scale of unhappiness and criticism, it's just a way to forget about what we fought for. And I think that, I wanna say that just in the beginning, President Donald Trump is the best president of the United States in history. And I know that many people will disagree. I don't care. I think he's the best president in history of the United States. He cares about his country, about the US. And he's the great example for any other leaders around the world to take care of their own. You see, when he started the NATO disagreement, right? Everyone was like, oh, why he wants to leave?

Speaker 2:
[04:35] Back in the days.

Speaker 1:
[04:36] Back, but that was...

Speaker 2:
[04:36] And eight years ago.

Speaker 1:
[04:37] Yes. When he said very basic thing to Germany, you're spending 2%, you should spend 2% on NATO, as we agreed, instead of spending money on illegal migration. Everyone in Europe was shocked. How can he ask to pay what we agreed for? So he pushed them to do things they should do for years. So I don't understand criticism when what he did, what he said about NATO is true. How can you be upset that he doesn't want to be your private bodyguard? You, your taxes are on NATO, and in some way, indirectly, your taxes are financing illegal migration in Germany, instead of NATO, that's a fact. Why would you pay for it? It's not your country, it's not your policy, you don't like it. You pay a lot of taxes, and then Germany is not paying 2%, but they are paying for the hotels, for the illegals. It's ridiculous. So, what we see from the end, and I'm saying this as a European, as a Polish, sorry. So, I can't understand why would you expect from President Trump and American citizens to pay for NATO, when you do not pay what you agreed in a treaty. It's ridiculous. It's not fair. But what is told and what the picture is from this disagreement, is Trump wants to leave NATO. No, Trump wants to change NATO, and he knows how to do it. He's a businessman, we know, he know how to negotiate. It's not about winning, it's about being equal, equal rights, equal duties. So, I can't understand. And whenever I see disagreement within MAGA, I'm just, you know, I'm just watching, like tweeting or whatever. And I'm like, my God, you don't even know how happy you are having President Trump. You do not know, you already forgot. You forget that we could have Biden or Kamala. I just, Kamala was giving a speech yesterday, I think, about the backbone of Democratic Party. And she was obviously referring to the one race. And I was like, this, and they called us racists, us. And I was like, I had Kamala, this clip was like two minutes, and I had enough to say, God, thank you for President Trump. I'm serious. So, so my presence here is to let you know and remind you that we could have those who are in favor of killing babies and killing their childhood. I'm talking about all the wokeness. We could have generations killed culturally, physically. We could have a serious problems. And why I care about America, as I said previously, I do care because whatever happens here, it's going to happen around the world. And it's just a fact. So that's my kind of my emotion and my way of thinking on the situations. Obviously, there is a lot of problems or. But everyone was happy about Venezuela. Everyone was proud. This action was like a movie action, like what he did to this dictator. I felt proud. Why for so many years people had to suffer in Venezuela? Why there was not one brave man to do what he did in one night? And he did it. He did what he said. He gave him time. He gave him ultimatum. And then he said when you had three or four days to react and you don't, then when you're around, you're finding out.

Speaker 2:
[08:56] So question for you. I got a lot of things to go through. The other day I was looking at the Poland model, why Poland does so well versus the EU. I typed in and I said, give me the strangest laws in Poland, extreme laws. And some of the stuff that came up is like, you know what? These are considered extreme? I'm going to ask you about that here in a minute. But the first thing I want to start off with you is, you know, how you view the war with Iran right now, okay? And going back and forth, you said Venezuela, a lot of people would say to you, those that are maybe critical of the president's war with Iran, they would say, well, Dominik, the reason why we're supported with Venezuela and the way he got Maduro, he went in, got him, got out, it was quick, right? This is extensive, it's longer. How are you viewing this war with Iran and what are people not looking at? Because you got a couple of factions, right? You got the non-interventionists, I just don't want to go to war, let's mind our own business, Monroe Doctrine, why should we go there? Then there are those that are supported, but what are people not thinking about?

Speaker 1:
[09:55] Okay, so I'll try to be, in the beginning, I'll try to be very, very simple. When you have a problem with your tooth, you've got a bad tooth, some people are so afraid to go to see a dentist that they are waiting and it spreads. It's painful, sometimes it's cost a lot, but you have to do it, because you might actually die from the infection. Some people are not afraid and they do things which they know must be done for the future. That's how I see it. I know it's very simple. I don't want to be too simple, but what I mean by that, for 47 years, there was no man to react on what is happening in Iran. Everyone is shocked when we see the clips. Iran before revolution, after revolution, women are sold, women are hanged, gays are thrown up from the roofs. Nobody reacted. Then they blackmailed the whole world, like Iran, Russia, China, North Korea, the axis of evil. And they really blackmailed us for years, 47 years. Then we know that they are financing, still financing every single terrorist organization around the world. No, even Boko Haram in Nigeria. Some people are saying that it's not true. It is true. Hamas, Boko Haram, all jihad is paid and sponsored by Iran. How can you say it's not my problem? When people in Europe, not, maybe not as many, but in Europe, we actually have jihad already. Machetes, people are beheaded in the name of the religion. Priests are killed. The numbers of rapes, because they are different culturally and they believe they can rape in fiddles, are extreme. You don't have that, so you, I'm sorry to say that, but you don't have that yet. So you do not understand the scale of what is happening in Sweden, what is happening in Germany, what is happening in Paris, what is happening around Europe, because Europe was weak and led jihadists and uneducated wild people from different cultural circle. And then you've got people who are, you know, in the mass migration, you've got two or three or a hundred of them paid by organizations like very similar to Hamas, Hezbollah or INNE or other. So I think that people do not understand why this is important for next generations, you know, for our daughters. It's, I know some people will say, oh, it's cost a lot and this and that. Yeah, dentists is expensive as well. That's life, that some things in life are not perfect. You have to pay for the doctor, you have to pay for the war. I'm not pro-war, don't get me wrong. I'm not like, you know, exciting because someone will be killed or will die. No, no, but sometimes in our lives, we have to make very hard decisions, very hard decisions.

Speaker 2:
[13:25] What has this revealed by different countries? Because you're a member of the European Parliament, right? So what have you learned? You know, sometimes when fight takes place and you're at a bar with your friends, you notice who will fight, who won't fight, who runs, who will come in. You thought the big guy would fight, he didn't. You thought the small guy would run, he fought. You learn a lot about everybody, right? What have you learned about your peers in the EU from the war starting to now? Different countries, UK, Germany, Spain, Italy, what have you learned?

Speaker 1:
[13:56] I must say, and I'm very sorry to say that as a European, most of them are cowards, spineless cowards. And we had this discussion with my friends. If war would start in Europe without the US, it would take two or three days for Europe to be done. I'm serious.

Speaker 2:
[14:20] Two or three days with no help from the US.

Speaker 1:
[14:22] If US would not help, we would be done. I'm serious. So if someone thinks that US will pay from the taxes for Germany, look at how Poland pays, how much we pay. Like everyone should pay 2 percent, right? We are three and a half, four and a half in a minute. And we pay more than we should, right? That's why Poland is so different. And we don't have illegal migration, so we can pay more. So we are smart. We don't have that. Our government did not allow mass migration to Poland. And I will keep coming back to this fact, because this is where most of the problems started in Europe. And it's just a fact. So if you ask me about the war, it's unpleasant, people are dying, it's expensive, but very often is needed to stop the bleeding. That's what I think, in general terms.

Speaker 2:
[15:20] What are your thoughts about the role UK plays? Because it's interesting, right? When the war happens, hey, Lords of London, we're not going to ensure US comes in. And they've had a monopoly on that for whatever, 47 years, 48 years. It's a long number, a long time that they've been doing that. And then Keir Starmer made some comments. And now Prince Charles possibly coming to meet, to try to get that relationship together. Are we seeing the tail end of British Empire in control over the world economy? Like, is it coming to an end?

Speaker 1:
[15:49] Of course. Look at the polls. We know that they are talking about elections. It's like two years, but still, Starmer is done. Look, you've got reform, you've got other conservative parties, and somewhere in the end are labor. They are down. Politically, people will not elect them. I think Nigel has a big chance to be an ex-prime minister, maybe in a coalition, I don't know, but that's a big chance. And the things you see on the streets of London, I used to live in London. I lived there for five years. And it's so changed that yesterday, the guy was arrested for playing a gospel song, singing a gospel song on the streets of London. How can you do such a thing when you've got Muslim prayers, like thousands of them, praying on the streets during their feasts?

Speaker 2:
[16:50] This guy this year?

Speaker 1:
[16:51] That's correct, that's actually yesterday, or that was posted yesterday. And how, I can't even describe what I felt when I've seen this clip. Europe as a Christian continent, then we've got Christian country, which, well, England used to be a Christian country. When people are arrested for praying, for good things, for praying in the democratic country, how can you deal with them? I mean, how can you be a partner with such a leader? I can't see any bound, cultural bound, with the people who arrest others for praying. It's ridiculous. Now they are asking people if they are praying on the streets in silence. Even if you're praying in your head, you're arrested. I'm serious. I've seen the clip. That was very close to the abortion clinic. So they came up to the girl asking her if she's praying in the spirit, if she's praying in her mind. It's mind-blowing what they did to this country. So I'm not surprised. The leftist agenda is so extreme that whatever President Trump would do, they would never agree. I've seen this meme about President Trump, even if Trump will say that he's got a cure for cancer and will not take it because it's from Trump. So I think there is so much anger from the left around the world because they think that they own us. And they think that the fact that they lost is just a moment in the history, but in general, they own us. They own the world. I'm talking about political world. So President Trump is an example that he does not agree for not paying. It's not about money only, but it's about lack of respect. I think it's a lack of respect to American taxpayer to expect from President of the United States to take care of you when you do not care about your own nation. It's very important.

Speaker 2:
[19:11] What happened with, you know, in 2022, Cuddergate that took place, the guys that took one and a half million dollars, cash influence, four people arrested by Belgian police, you know, rule of law. There was a whole thing that you did on this, this Cudder corruption scandal at the European Parliament. Can you tell me more about this? Because the reason why this is important is you watch somebody who used to be a reasonable sound or voice, and then all of a sudden, boom, position flips. What happened there? It throws a lot of people off, because some people feel the need to still be loyal to this person. Like, well, if he says it, there must be a reason behind it. What happened in EU? Because you were one of the front and center on this. You did this, you exposed this, go for it.

Speaker 1:
[19:59] Well, obviously nothing. Nothing happened. I mean, in theory, the investigation is still open, still on. But my expectation from what we found out about Vice President of the European Parliament, Eva Kaili, socialist, she was arrested with two suitcases of cash. Like, she had two suitcases. Her father was arrested with the suitcases full of cash. And you don't need, like, three or four or five years of investigation to find out that someone was paid by Qatar. We know that Qatar…

Speaker 2:
[20:40] How did she get caught?

Speaker 1:
[20:42] Well, they put the agents around, and she was under surveillance for some time, even her car. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[20:53] So, who was surveilling her?

Speaker 1:
[20:55] Belgian police and Belgian services.

Speaker 2:
[20:57] Good for them.

Speaker 1:
[20:57] Not… It's not European service… Not European Parliament services. No, no, no, no. That was Belgian police.

Speaker 2:
[21:04] How different is that? Can you… To the average person…

Speaker 1:
[21:06] Okay, we've got an organization which is called OLAF.

Speaker 2:
[21:09] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[21:10] It's anti-corruption kind of European institution, right? To make sure that everything is okay in the European Parliament. It's not them. It's Belgian authorities took the job and started, but nothing… She's out. She was arrested, but now she's out and they're still investigate what happened. I know what happened. Qatar paid money to the people who were in favor of their businesses. It started when Qatar, we had the scandal with people dying on the on the sides of the stadiums. They were dying working there, and then Qatar wanted to do a beautiful PR for themselves. So it was easy to buy like 15, 20 MEPs. And, you know, it's not a problem at all for them. That's why when I see people from MAGA movement who change overnight, over a week, I'm always like, who paid you? Why did you be betrayed? How big cash had to be? Because you don't, I can't see, because we've got very influential people. We had, and we still have some, but we had very influential people in MAGA movement. We, I say, conservatives around the world, right? And suddenly, some of them changed completely. I can't believe that this kind of change is natural. It's not, if you're intelligent, it's not natural, I don't think so.

Speaker 2:
[22:43] So, you think some of that is happening in different countries around the world? Like, if you were Qatar, so if you're Qatar, think like they do. Who would you target if you're Qatar? You have money, you're doing cash, you did this to a member of the EU Parliament, so and she got away with it, Olaf didn't do anything, you know.

Speaker 1:
[23:00] Qataris would attack US and Israel, that's obvious.

Speaker 2:
[23:03] So give me names. So if you're Qatar, think like Qatar, who would you target?

Speaker 1:
[23:07] Trump, number one.

Speaker 2:
[23:09] How would you target him?

Speaker 1:
[23:11] Media. That's how, well, when they try to build a beautiful PR around the world, they would use influences, journalists, people who are known around the world with a big audience. They would come and offer a lot of money. For them, it's like a paper. It's like I said that I was in Jerusalem and I said to the guys, even you cannot pay that such money. Qataris are, there's no limits, right? So if someone, I don't know, making like $20,000 a month and then you see 20 million a month or 200 million, there's no limits. Then you get money and power. So I don't believe that some changes in the MAGA movement are natural because they are not logical. And I can't see any other reason than money. And my way of thinking is supported by what I've seen in the European Parliament with vice president of the European Parliament, other MEPs. And nothing's changed. I mean, it's been like a couple of years now. They're out. And I don't think there will be any consequences. So when others around the world see other people, politicians and journalists and influence, that you are caught with actual money and you do not pay any consequences, you're not charged with anything, why would that, you know, why would not take like 50 or 100 million?

Speaker 2:
[25:02] You know, the president is very shrewd. He's very smart. He's not somebody that's a lightweight. Do you think he knows this is happening? And if yes, if he knows, do you think he's doing anything about it? He's allowing allowing it to happen?

Speaker 1:
[25:15] President Trump? I don't think he knows, but it's very hard. You know, it's very hard to stop someone who is ready to bring cash in his suitcases. And then there is so much money that they couldn't physically take it. That's the story from the investigation. One of the MEPs said that they had so much cash that they dropped like 60,000 euros that had been in the parliament because they couldn't hold it.

Speaker 2:
[25:49] In the parliament?

Speaker 1:
[25:50] In the parliament.

Speaker 2:
[25:51] So they dropped up the cash in the parliament?

Speaker 1:
[25:53] They had cash in the parliament. Okay, what they did was they had a meeting with one of the ambassadors of Morocco because they cooperated as well. They had a meeting in Paris. They had a meeting in different cities. Ambassador was coming with the cash in the car. They were driving back to Brussels, one or two of them, and then they shared the money in the parliament. And one day, one occasion, they had so much cash that they dropped it to the bin.

Speaker 2:
[26:24] In the parliament?

Speaker 1:
[26:24] In the parliament.

Speaker 2:
[26:25] 60,000 euros.

Speaker 1:
[26:26] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[26:27] Who caught that money? Who saw that money?

Speaker 1:
[26:30] I think that was from... You can Google it from one of the articles of the Belgian press. A location of cash was found in her apartment that we know, but there is a story about the cash in the parliament as well. So, that's a very funny thing, because they openly, during the investigations, those who were arrested, they said, yes, it's true. Okay, we did. And then the stories leaked to the press. So, it's not like I'm having some kind of knowledge, which is not public. They said, yes, we did it. And then when they were here, yeah. So, for me, it's so shocking. So, if someone is ready to do such a things with such a money, it's very hard.

Speaker 2:
[27:20] You think Trump knows?

Speaker 1:
[27:22] I think he knows about, but how can you stop someone? You can't just, you know, we just took a Uber. We've got our laggages because I'm off to Poland tonight. You cannot be stopped just in your MEP. You cannot be stopped and searched. You cannot search like thousands of people every day. I know services should be ready for this kind of thing. But okay, yeah, I think he knows. But on the other hand, I don't know how much he knows, but on the other hand, I was in... We had a meeting in Washington. I had a meeting with Tommy Robinson and Congress people. He was there. I think he told you about it. And he was giving them like... We had this speech meeting, a presentation about jihad, jihadists. And there were very experienced Congress people. And they were like, oh, I didn't know that. Oh, really? Experienced. I mean, I'm talking about people who are in Congress for years. And they were like, oh, I didn't know. Oh, really? There were some things obvious to us, which was a surprise for them. So I was surprised when I... Yeah, that's the moment when we had this zero tolerance for terrorism, zero illegal migration in Congress. So when you ask me if he knows, maybe he's not briefed. Maybe he's not the... Maybe he doesn't have the whole picture. It's hard to say really, because when I realized that Congress people do not know how serious and advanced jihad is now in Europe and around the world, he might not know. He might not know.

Speaker 2:
[29:15] Okay, so, you know, we've talked about a lot of different things. You and Tommy, you put that number zero. You tweeted something out that was going viral all over Twitter, comparing what happened to Poland versus, you know, other countries. Wales, I think you have that number on there, Rob. If you go to... Yeah, right there. There you go. So, rapes recorded from 2000 and then 2023, 23 years later. In the year 2000, England and Wales was 85-93. In 2023, it went from 85-93 rapes to 68,109 rapes. Germany, 81-33, 23 years later, 39,029. France, 7500. It six-sexed almost to 42,400. But Poland had 2,399 rapes in 2000. It went down to 1127. How is that possible?

Speaker 1:
[30:09] We stopped migrants. We built the wall. And again, Mr. Trump was our inspiration. Our government decided not even one. This is my motto. I've got two political motos. Be like Poland. Do not let anyone in. Do not let even one. Be like Poland and zero. Two motos, very simple. And when we built the wall, the numbers dropped drastically. And what they did, I mean, England and Wales, Germany, France, Sweden as well. Sweden is really bad. It's not here, but it's really bad. They let them in. They invited them. They had this time in Germany when Angela Merkel decided, okay, I need a cheap labor. Come in, come in. And this is what happens. When you read the stories about the rapes, some of the judges in Europe, they say, oh, they didn't know better because they're from the different culture. So it's not their fault.

Speaker 2:
[31:14] They're defending them.

Speaker 1:
[31:16] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[31:16] The rapists.

Speaker 1:
[31:17] Even activists, leftist activists in Sweden, who was raped, who was raped, and the story was very well known. She came with the flowers to say sorry to the guy from Syria, who raped her because she saw so much hatred in the media. She came with the flowers to apologize. It's ridiculous, the state of mind of the left in Europe. It's ridiculous. And again, Mr. Trump is the one who is inspiration. Believe me, all of them are jihadists in some way. In a jihad, infidels can be raped, can be killed with any reason. And when you are from the desert, because that's how... My friend from Syria, he says that these people are called people from the desert. Coming to Europe, then we have this case of the guy... Actually, my friend, I came here with my friend from VisaGuard24, just published a data, information about the guy who was arrested for raping goats, and I think that was Sweden. He was arrested for a series of rapes on goats.

Speaker 2:
[32:36] Now, the goats are in danger?

Speaker 1:
[32:39] Well, animals are in danger too. Yeah, Afghan arrested over sub-Arabia. Can you believe that? Do you want that in the USA?

Speaker 2:
[32:47] Go a little bit lower, Rob. This is a real story.

Speaker 1:
[32:50] It is.

Speaker 2:
[32:50] An Afghan migrant has been arrested in France after local farmers repeatedly found their livestock with legs bound and shown signs of having suffered sexual assault. The anti-crime brigade of the French National Police took a 19-year-old Afghan migrant to custody last week after farmers in Boucher du Rhone, a region near Marcelle, set up motion-activated cameras to catch a suspected animal rapist shepherds in this region, first reported abuse to police in early 2026 with a surge of attacks against animals. Now, animals aren't safe.

Speaker 1:
[33:23] Do you want that in, do you want this kind of America? Because this is actual Europe. I didn't make this up. It's a fact. And this is every day, every single day you hear about rapes, stabbings, machetes and all this. Every single day. It's not like when you, again, when you Google rapes on animals in Europe, you will see what is happening. Again, the left bring them to our continent, the left. If you would have Kamala or if you would have Biden, you would have a serious, serious problem. So again, thank God for President Trump. He's not saint, he's not perfect, none of us. But you have to thank God for this man, because you would have goats raped, women raped, killings, and you would have what Europe has. But not Poland, not Poland, because we did not let them in. And obviously, we were fined millions of euros for not letting them in. But when I see Rome, the city is done. When I see Paris, the city is done.

Speaker 2:
[34:36] Done.

Speaker 1:
[34:37] Absolutely, it will never be the same, never. When I see Munich, for example, when I see... When I think on every big city in Europe, it's done. Not Warsaw, not Krakow, not Poland in general, because we did not let them in, and we will never let any illegal in, because Poland is so smart now after communism, so smart after 123 years of not being on the map, after partitions, after suffering. We really care. We cherish our freedom. We know how important that is. So they will never be let in because I never thought that I would say what I'm going to say now. I think that jihadists are as dangerous as communism. I would never thought that I would say such a things because the communism is a pure evil. I know what the real communism is. I suffered under the communism. And now I see how the whole continent, how Europe is destroyed by jihadists. And this is a real danger. And this is one of the reasons why I thank God for President Trump. And I don't care how they called me, like, they're laughing, they're trying to make jokes about me calling me more American than Polish. No, I love Poland. This is my country. This is my homeland. But they say, oh, you behave like a congressman from Krakow and this and that. I don't care. Because I know that his leadership is global in the many ways. He is not only example, but he's pushing like NATO, do what you promise to do. Take care of yourself. We're not going to be your babysitter anymore. And everyone is shocked. You know why? Because for so many years, there was no Trump in the office. There was no president who would be so tough on basic obvious facts, things. Okay, we have a deal. You pay 2000, I pay 2000, you pay 2000. If someone will attack this office, we're going to protect each other, right? Yes. Then you don't pay 2000, you pay 1000. And then you pay 1000 for your bars, parties or whatever. Or you don't do what we agree to do, and then you expect artists, family to pay for you. It's not right. I can't even understand why they were so angry when he says, oh, we're going to leave NATO, or we don't care. I'm Polish, I'm European. I know that we need US to help us. And I'm so happy that we were, and we are so loyal to America. Loyal to President Trump. Because we know what loyalty is. We know what it means to be betrayed. We know what it means. We went through so much suffering, and we see what is happening in Europe. That's why I hope that Great Britain will get a new government soon. Because what is happening now, I can't even believe, it's not... I was giving a speech on the Tommy Robinson's rally.

Speaker 2:
[38:18] I saw that.

Speaker 1:
[38:18] Yeah, and I said, Great Britain, make it great again. It's not an empire which we all knew from the past. They destroyed this. They destroyed this beautiful country. And it's so painful.

Speaker 2:
[38:34] Is this it?

Speaker 1:
[38:35] No, that's not the one. The one on Instagram, on my Instagram. And I think it's very important to... Yeah, that's the one. And I think it's important to remind people why it is so important. I know... Oh yeah, that's the one, the first one, the pinned one.

Speaker 2:
[39:10] How do you feel?

Speaker 3:
[39:12] Do you feel united?

Speaker 1:
[39:22] That's it.

Speaker 2:
[39:23] What?! How do you send them back?

Speaker 1:
[39:29] I want to know.

Speaker 2:
[39:30] How do you send them back?

Speaker 1:
[39:31] You put them, you put the cuffs, you put them on the plane, and the country of origin must pay for it. How to do it? Make them pay. Just like President Trump made NATO members to gather. In 24 hours, we had a special meeting, we had a summit when he says, I'm not going to help you. That's it, we're done. In one day, we had this urgent meeting, they gathered like 470 million euros in the beginning, then more for European system of defense. And I was like, where were you for so many years? Why didn't you pay 2%? You can do it in one night when Trump said, I'm not going to be your babysitter anymore, I'm not going to pay for you, American payer will not for you. They suddenly paid, so you have to, the Great Britain, the new government...

Speaker 2:
[40:25] The difference is he's feared though, he is feared and respected. What leverage does the EU have to say, leave them and back?

Speaker 1:
[40:34] Let me do it.

Speaker 2:
[40:35] Let you do it.

Speaker 1:
[40:36] Yes, yes, I will do it. I would speak to the one or two governments, I would put them on the plane, none of the boats and I would make these countries pay for it. If not, all the businesses are done, European Union cut off all the businesses, all the contracts and they will pay in a minute. Believe me, I'm in the International Trade Committee or in the European Parliament. All the deals are going through me, through my committee. I know what kind of money is, we're talking about billions and billions.

Speaker 2:
[41:07] That they're benefiting from you.

Speaker 1:
[41:08] Yes, yes. So if you stop that in one day, they're gonna take their own people and they're gonna pay for it. But you have to be brave. You have to really believe in, in the cause. So now, funny, Germany says that they're gonna send like 600,000 Muslims to, mainly to Syria, because there's no war anymore in Syria, right? So what they did, they come out on the streets protesting and they want to start their own political party. Now, they're not gonna leave. They want to stay and start the political party and they will run. And what happened? Nothing. They are still in Germany. Why? Because the German government is weak. It takes you one phone call to do it. Airline, I want 100 747 waiting. We want money on the account tomorrow by 12. If not, all the contracts are done. Simple. Simple. There's nothing unusual. If you can organize Super Bowl, if you can organize Pope's Pilgrimages and you have 6 million people, you can do the same with the remigration. You can do it, but you...

Speaker 2:
[42:21] How come America has not been able to do it? Because it's a very nasty thing. It sounds easy, it sounds simple, but it's very complicated. Especially when you're negotiating with countries that don't go by the same values that you go through. They don't live by the values you do. Do you think you're going to be able to negotiate with them?

Speaker 1:
[42:40] But even if they would not be happy to pay for the return, I would pay because it's less for the system to send them back than pay for your NHS or to pay for the whole system, education and for everything. It's just cheaper, you have to stop the bleeding. And what you need, Pat, what you need is a brave people, brave men. That's why what I said like three days ago, it looks like we're going to take over in Poland, and if we are elected, I'm going to leave my seat in the European Parliament, to come back to Poland, I'm going to live a really good life in Brussels. I must say, MEPs are making really good money and we have a good life. I'm going to leave that, I'm going to come back to the Polish Parliament, and I'd love to serve as a Minister of Migration, actually Deportation, because I would send everyone, everyone who is illegally in Poland, so obviously we have some who came before our government, not many.

Speaker 2:
[43:40] Very small percentage.

Speaker 1:
[43:41] It's a very small percentage, but you have to have a Minister, you have to have someone who will be in, like Polish ICE, Polish Departments, who would be ready to stop the bleeding when it starts again. I think it's very important.

Speaker 2:
[43:58] Yeah. When you're talking about this, I see a couple of different stories here. One, you see Germany is no longer Germans. It has taken in millions of migrants since 2015. I don't know if you have that Guardian article, Rob, if you want to pull it up. This is a Guardian article that comes out talking about this. It's in my notes. You should be able to find it. Non-Germans. So they have taken millions of migrants since 2015. 586 just in 2024. Non-German population now is 15% of the population. Non-German population is now 15%. 34% of violent crime suspects were non-Germans in the same year. So non-German 15 violent crimes two and a half times the amount of the population. And 80% of Germans are finally saying this. They have not said this in the past before. 80% of Germans are saying immigration is too high for them.

Speaker 1:
[44:51] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[44:51] 80%.

Speaker 1:
[44:52] Yeah. And, okay, so why the... Germany, Spain, Sweden, Britain, Italy, yeah. Why they elected these people? Why they elected left, mainly left, who are responsible for disaster of the European continent? I can't understand the way they're thinking. It would never happen in Poland. If we would have like radical left who are openly, openly pro-migration, like, you know what's happening in Spain now, right? 800,000 illegals are legal now.

Speaker 2:
[45:30] He said he wants another 500,000. He just announced it.

Speaker 1:
[45:33] Yes. So this is...

Speaker 2:
[45:34] Hold that up, Rob. The Spain guy, the guy who had issues with Trump is like right there. He approves a plan to give another 500,000 undocumented migrants legal status.

Speaker 1:
[45:43] This is suicide. This is actual suicide. So, I think that we have to change the culture, and Spain is done, because of the left. Sweden is done. So, until people will... people has to realize why... and I have to say it again, why it is so important to have Trump. I realize what is happening around the world. Europe would be done if not Poland, which is last stronghold of Christianity and normality in Europe. Europe would be done. I can't, I mean, our generation will never see Spain, Rome or Paris as it was 20 years ago. Never. The process will take, if you will find someone who wants to change it, reshape it, come back to normality, it's going to take like, I would say 30 years. Wow. Do you know that in France, the third generation of migrants can speak in French, but they cannot read or write. They can speak, but they cannot communicate. Third, we had the publicity about it. Third generation. How can you assimilate? How can you build the same society when an education is open for everyone? What is the reason? We had this conversation with my friend yesterday, actually, yes, yesterday, about English schools. What is happening in English schools? The level of indoctrination is just terrifying. So, when I'm here in America, I'm always very proud that I was a part of this moment in history when President Trump was elected. Dear Americans, I love you. Obviously, Poland is my homeland. I do love you. I do love this nation. Really, you are lucky. I know that you have problems. Everyone has problems. It's difficult times for everyone around the world, but you are one of the luckiest nations in the world because of this man. I hope I'm going to meet him and I'm going to tell him how great he is for the world because of what he is doing. I know he's busy now, very busy, but it's time to, because when we have this news in Europe, every day, your mental is changed. You think that everywhere is the same. It's not here. It's not in America. The madness of the left, the process was stopped by Trump and MAGA movement. And that's a blessing for the whole world.

Speaker 2:
[49:05] I want to read something to you. So the other day, I went on there and I said, listen, because every time we speak, you make me think about, Poland is doing certain things right that other people have to learn from. I said, give me the most extreme policies that Poland has that other Western countries would say that's crazy. And here's the eight things that came up. I want to read it to you. Tell me if this is accurate or this is wrong. Number one, no legal same-sex marriage. Constitution defines marriage as between man and woman. Number two, no same-sex adoption rights. Same-sex couples cannot jointly adopt children in Poland. That's true. Okay, number three, strong restriction on sex education. Promoting sexual activity to minors can be prosecuted in some context. So no sexual education to minors.

Speaker 1:
[49:57] No indoctrination. Because what left tried to do, they tried to start a new subject in the school as a pro-healthy kind of thing. And then we knew that the program of the whole thing was indoctrination and it was stopped. So there is no sexual education as they tried to in the past. So yeah, children in Poland are safe.

Speaker 2:
[50:20] Okay, so let's go to the next one. Drinking in public places is often illegal unless designated.

Speaker 1:
[50:26] That's correct, yes. You do not walk with the alcohol on the streets.

Speaker 2:
[50:30] Okay, next one.

Speaker 1:
[50:31] But obviously, don't get me wrong, this is very important. We've got beautiful restaurants, just like in here in Miami. People are sitting outside on the walk. But there are places, public area, when you do not go with the alcohol.

Speaker 2:
[50:44] Mandatory ID laws. You are required to carry ID and show it to the police upon request.

Speaker 1:
[50:50] Correct, yeah, of course.

Speaker 2:
[50:51] By the way, in America, no federal law requires to carry an ID.

Speaker 1:
[50:54] You don't need ID to vote.

Speaker 2:
[50:56] To vote in many states, yes.

Speaker 1:
[50:57] It would have been in Poland.

Speaker 2:
[50:59] Here's the next one. Sunday traditional restriction. Most retail stores must close on Sundays. Only few exceptions, gas stations and small shops.

Speaker 1:
[51:06] Correct, yes. Sundays for family. Sundays for family.

Speaker 2:
[51:09] That's the entire country.

Speaker 1:
[51:10] Closed on Sunday.

Speaker 2:
[51:12] Really?

Speaker 1:
[51:12] Yes, of course.

Speaker 2:
[51:13] Okay, so next one. Blasphemy is a criminal offense. Publicly insulting religion or religious symbols can lead to fines and up to two years in prison.

Speaker 1:
[51:21] That's right, of course.

Speaker 2:
[51:23] Illegal to promote totalitarian ideologies. You promote Nazism, communism, other totalitarian systems, you could get arrested.

Speaker 1:
[51:30] Of course, you cannot wear a T-shirt with Hitler or Stalin. No, it's illegal. We went through this shit. We know it shouldn't be allowed. We can talk about freedom of speech, but there are some boundaries in the countries like Poland. And again, Poland was, partitions were, took us 123 years of non-existence, right? Then we had World War II, Hitler. Then we had 70 years of communism. Do you think that anyone in Poland would allow you to wear a T-shirt with Hitler or with Stalin? No, no, my love, no. We went through this shit. We know what it is. You can tell me about the freedom of speech when you never experience Nazism or Communism. But we did. We know what it is. So there was no one in Poland who would oppose this kind of love. And I'm proud of that.

Speaker 2:
[52:27] By the way, yesterday was Hitler's birthday. So if somebody in Poland wanted to say, hey, what's wrong with that? I want to celebrate. I want to wear a shirt around. They couldn't do it there.

Speaker 1:
[52:36] Not in Poland, no.

Speaker 2:
[52:37] A content creator gets out there and says, why don't we talk about the untold story of Hitler, how he was a great leader in Poland. That couldn't happen?

Speaker 1:
[52:44] No.

Speaker 2:
[52:45] So are there YouTubers and streamers in Poland? Are there content creators in Poland?

Speaker 1:
[52:50] One is with me, my friend, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[52:52] Oh, so that guy is with you. He seemed like a fun guy, the tall guy.

Speaker 1:
[52:55] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[52:55] Yeah. So what can they do and what can they not do?

Speaker 1:
[52:59] Well, we are not North Korea. I don't want you to think that we are so strict. No, you can do whatever you want in a very, very simple frame. You do not praise Hitler. You do not praise Stalin. We can talk about the history. We can talk about obvious facts, numbers of people killed and ideology, this and that. Yes, but you cannot praise it. You cannot live the moment.

Speaker 2:
[53:27] Can somebody go out there and say, you know, Dominik, I don't believe 6 million people died. I think it's only 200,000.

Speaker 1:
[53:32] It's a Holocaust denier.

Speaker 2:
[53:34] So that would be considered a Holocaust denier in Poland. And he could get arrested.

Speaker 1:
[53:38] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[53:38] And so you don't have necessarily the freedom of speech that we have in America.

Speaker 1:
[53:42] Well, do you, how would you be treated if you, if in America, if you would say that Copernicus did not exist? You didn't see Copernicus, but you know that he existed, right? From the history, historical fact and proofs. Now we know about the numbers of people who were killed. You cannot deny Holocaust because the Holocaust is also Polish people and it's against the history of your own nation.

Speaker 2:
[54:06] For sure, for your nation, absolutely, because it's a very different story for somebody living there versus living in America. But to me, how do you maintain this, knowing the left is eventually going to come to want to destroy this? How does Poland maintain this 20, 30, 40, 50 years from now?

Speaker 1:
[54:24] I don't think the left would ever come back to the power to change the obvious facts.

Speaker 2:
[54:28] How are you so confident?

Speaker 1:
[54:29] Because if you want to insult someone in Poland, like, really badly, right? With your language. In our families and my friends, you call them a communist. It's like this little girl from this clip, mommy, dad called me a democrat, right? Same story, but it's very serious in Poland. Communism, if you are a communist, you are the worst human, because communists killed, but in a very brutal way, then they... I don't want to go... Everyone knows what communism is. It's the worst of the worst. So if you want to insult someone, it's like... My father was like, if he called someone a communist, I was serious. So what I think, you need... In our generation time, it will not happen. No. I mean, we do have socialists, we do have left wing in the parliament, but it's not as strong to change like constitution, because the gay things, that's constitution. They will never be able to change it in a way...

Speaker 2:
[55:43] So that's in the constitution, no same-sex marriage and no...

Speaker 1:
[55:45] Yeah, of course. Because in a constitution, it's very clear that institution of marriage between men... Can you pull that up, Rob?... and a woman is protected by the country. It's under special protection of the country. So it's not like political views only, but it's constitution. And also, I think that many people who suffered because of the communism, their emotions, memories are still alive. So, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[56:21] Article 18 of the Constitution of Poland states, marriage as a union of men and a woman shall be placed under the protection and care of the Republic of Poland.

Speaker 1:
[56:28] That is correct.

Speaker 2:
[56:29] So now here's a question. So let's just take a cutter, or let's just take some of the cutter goes to EU and says, hey, we don't like this Poland stuff, what they're doing. Who can we buy to change it? What influence does EU have to inject leftist ideology into Poland?

Speaker 1:
[56:46] What they are trying to do now is, for example, two gays are getting married somewhere in the EU state. So they want to impose this law throughout the whole European Union, but it's against a Polish constitution, right?

Speaker 2:
[57:06] So can they overwrite that?

Speaker 1:
[57:07] No. How? I mean, they can do whatever they say. I mean, European judges can say and rule out whatever they want, but it's impossible to implement it in Poland because it's against the constitution. So obviously, there will be some battles in the courts, but it's not going to change the reality. The constitution has to be changed, and they have no power, and they will not have a power for years, because as I said, memories, suffering of communism is still alive in many families.

Speaker 2:
[57:44] In Poland, when you look at numbers, there is one issue I noticed, and I'm curious to know what you say about this, because I wonder how they're going to try to spin this to come attack you guys. So GDP growth, Poland 3%, EU 1.1%, you're beating them. Unemployment, Poland 3%, EU 5.9%, you're beating them. Poland GDP up 170% since 2004, you're crushing it. Poland, lowest crime in the EU, possibly in the Western countries, by the way, you have the lowest crime. 0.5 to 1 homicide rate per 100,000, again, the lowest possibly of all Western countries. Labor market absorption, refugees, 69% employment rate of Ukrainian refugees, meaning if they come, 69% of them are working. They're not coming and sitting around or just taking entitlement programs. Foreign direct investment, Poland 2.2% of GDP, EU 1.5%. Economic growth, nearly 30 years of continuous growth pre-COVID. 30 years of continuous growth pre-COVID. Six largest economy in the EU. I think you guys just bought a bunch of gold, making you the number 10 country in the world. And gold, can you pull that up properly?

Speaker 1:
[58:53] We've got more gold than European Central Bank now.

Speaker 2:
[58:56] You have more gold than European Central Bank.

Speaker 1:
[58:59] Yes, and we are still buying.

Speaker 2:
[59:03] So, when I look at all this stuff, I'm like, okay, that's pretty impressive on what Poland is doing. Now, here's the part, though, that I'm curious what you would say about this. Population growth, minus 0.3% shrinking, okay? And the reasons why, high cost of living, high inflation, lack of affordable housing. Okay, EU plus 3%, of course, they're taking in a lot of migrants. We know that. Fertility rate, Poland 1.1 to 1.2, the EU is 1.3. Infertility rate. How do you address those two issues for population growth? Because eventually, a leftist is going to come out and say, we need migrants, we need help, we need people to come down here.

Speaker 1:
[59:41] No, we need less abortions. That's what we need. Not in Poland, but around the world. That's my argument against leftism. And do not kill your own babies. And we're going to be fine. We don't need people from Syria who would kill you for helping them. Because the girl I mentioned before is not the only case when pro-migrants, pro-migration activists is killed or raped. So less abortion, more families, and it's going to be fine. Well, it is hard. I mean, the birth rate, it is a problem. I think that's why we started a special program, financial program, to support new families. So, like, up to 26, you don't pay any tax. In contempt, in Poland.

Speaker 2:
[60:28] Age.

Speaker 1:
[60:29] Yes, up to 26 years old. So you can start your family earlier, and you've got more chances to have more babies. Then every child has, like, every month benefit as well.

Speaker 2:
[60:42] I love that. Did you hear that rap? Up to 26 years old. So if I'm making $80,000 for 25, I'm keeping all of it. When did you guys pass that law?

Speaker 1:
[60:51] That was three years ago. That's our government.

Speaker 2:
[60:54] Is that a positive? Are you seeing a direct impact already?

Speaker 1:
[60:57] Well, it's hard to say, because it's only three years. You see the difference, but then Tusk took over, and they, like, they're changing the laws we implemented. So I'm talking about the times when our government was in power. So I think we need, like, 15 years to change the direction, and you have to remember again that Poland regained our independence in 1990, partially free first elections. So we've got from, we've got, like, 30, 36 years. We need another 15, 14 years to be, like, better with this rate, but all the rest, I'm so proud of Poland. And I think the main reason of the success is lack of illegal migrants. That's the reason for the investment, for the people to start businesses. You don't feel scared. You're not terrified. Streets are clean. Be like Poland.

Speaker 2:
[62:03] Be like Poland, but to me, the reason, by the way, saying that number, I just pulled up and asked the following question. What percentage of income tax do we collect in America from workers under 30 years old? It's roughly 6% to 10%. So that means if we decided in America to not take taxes, because 50% of taxes are paid by 45 to 65 year olds. So 50% of all income taxes is 45 to 65 year olds. If all of a sudden an announcement was made under 30, no income taxes, oh my god.

Speaker 1:
[62:41] There would be more companies starting. You know what would happen to economy? The economy would boom.

Speaker 2:
[62:48] Oh my, so okay, so now the problem we also have in America, the reason why I'm asking is because we have this problem too. Our birth rate hit the lowest, reports just came back, back to back to back, we're just getting lower and lower. I think we hit 1.58 is where we are.

Speaker 1:
[63:02] Yeah, if someone would ask me to answer for the reason, I would say media, lifestyle, which is created by the media, but continue, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[63:11] How do we change that? So you said number one, you said is eliminate abortion. Okay, so that's one, number two.

Speaker 1:
[63:18] Financial support for the families as well.

Speaker 2:
[63:19] Financial support, so one way could be no taxes paid up to 30 years old.

Speaker 1:
[63:26] Or you don't pay income as a family after second child.

Speaker 2:
[63:31] You don't pay income taxes after second child?

Speaker 1:
[63:33] Then that's it, you've got two kids, you don't pay income.

Speaker 2:
[63:36] I'd make it three.

Speaker 1:
[63:37] That's a, it's movable, yeah. The whole idea is how you support family in a real way.

Speaker 2:
[63:44] For sure.

Speaker 1:
[63:45] If you want your economy to grow, you know that. If you want more babies, if you want more citizens, if you want get stronger and bigger, you have to give something. So don't take, let them decide what they wanna do. And that's, I think that's one of the reasons that's one of the ways to do it. But there are so many reasons. I mean, the main problem is radical feminism, freedom, modern way of your, you have to be for yourself. That's the problem. Radical left, because they call themselves feminist fighting for the rights. What rights? What rights you do not have, we have. So it's indoctrination. That is a problem.

Speaker 2:
[64:39] Yeah, I agree. I agree with that point. You don't have a lot of feminism in Poland, you're saying. There's not a lot.

Speaker 1:
[64:45] Not like in here. I mean, this America is really bad.

Speaker 2:
[64:49] It is really bad. And you know, I just looked at the number of tourism for Poland. Tell me if this number is right. You're saying 25, 26 numbers, roughly 20 to 23 million international tourists go to Poland every year.

Speaker 1:
[65:05] I think it's more.

Speaker 2:
[65:06] You think it's more?

Speaker 1:
[65:07] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[65:08] Really?

Speaker 1:
[65:08] Yeah, it's booming. Absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[65:09] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[65:11] And I didn't say that, but it's very important. I'm getting messages. I'm writing my social media myself. I'm getting DMs every day, about 100, 150 sometimes, from people from Europe, asking how can I move to Poland. Most of them are Brits.

Speaker 2:
[65:31] I believe you.

Speaker 1:
[65:32] I wouldn't believe, if someone would tell me 10 years ago, that Brits would ask Pol, how to move to Poland? I would be like, are you crazy?

Speaker 2:
[65:42] Why is that so extreme? Why is it extreme to you?

Speaker 1:
[65:44] People, the main reason, actually, I could read some of these messages, is safety. People are scared for their kids. Economy is number two, but number one, people are scared for their, most of them are men, for their wives and children. And they say, like, for example, the guy sent me a message yesterday, I've got a company, I've got money, I will pay taxes, I've got two kids. They cannot go to the school themselves anymore. I live in a good part of the city, but it's not good anymore. When we bought, it was good, it's not good now. How can I move all my assets to Poland? You know, they're asking politicians how to move. It's like 20 years ago, London was very Polish. It was nearly 2 million people, maybe less, 2 million Poles in London and around London. Now, Poles are coming back and Brits wants to move. Safety. So this is very important for the business as well, safety. And people who are coming to Poland now, they are so surprised. So when someone is asking me, what do you mean by be like Poland? This is my personal motto. Be like Poland with migration. Be like Poland with respecting your own country. You are what you do when you're not seen. People on the streets in Poland taking care of the streets, keep them clean. We care about our country because we care about our freedom, because we know what it is when you're losing freedom, when you've got Germans on the streets, when you've got communists on the streets. Now we are free. And that's why we care about Poland, like we care for our own home.

Speaker 2:
[67:36] Yeah, I mean, to me, it's common sense, right? What you're explaining. By the way, of the tourists, the top 10 countries that visit Poland the most, number one is Germany, of the tourists. Number two is UK, three is Ukraine, even though some travel overlaps with work migration. Number four is US.

Speaker 1:
[67:54] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[67:55] US tourists go to Poland. Five is Italy, France, Spain, Netherlands, Czechoslovakia. But four US. Why US?

Speaker 1:
[68:02] There are reasons. Many of them are Christians and Catholic. So many Catholic Americans are coming to our Basilica, Sister Faustina, Divine Mercy in Krakow. So it's not only tourism to see places, but also going to Częstochowa, Our Lady of Częstochowa. They're coming to see Krakow Warsaw, Gdansk by the sea. So it's just beautiful. So I must say, when I met last time, when I met tourists from US, they were visiting for the religion purposes. But not only that, it's just, well, it's much more...

Speaker 2:
[68:46] I'm assuming family, because we also have a lot of Poles. By the way, if I come to Poland, what three, five places should I visit? What is a top hotel? Do they have high-end, high-expensive hotels, great service, great food?

Speaker 1:
[68:58] Oh yeah, we've got Hilton, we've got Sheraton, we've got all the chains, we've got beautiful raffles, we've got Bristol Hotel next to the Presidential Palace. We've got beautiful hotels, beautiful, much cheaper than US, and then you must see beautiful Warsaw and find out about the history of the uprising, Warsaw Uprising. Then you have to go to Krakow, you have to see beautiful city of Polish kings. You have to, if you have time to see the place where St. John Paul II was born. There's so many beautiful things because we are 40 million nation people, we've got beautiful sea, we've got beautiful mountain, star-trips, we've got, first of all, it's much cheaper, second of all, it's clean and safe. I'm not afraid when any of members of my family are out after dark. Now in Europe, you cannot do shopping after six or seven when it's getting dark. The women are not going, and I'm serious, in many cases, women are not going out in Europe, in Poland, it's safe, numbers. So we like Poland again. I love this slogan. I love it because I'm so proud. I remember communism. I do remember queuing for shoes for all night. I didn't get them. And that's the example I'm trying to give to the people.

Speaker 2:
[70:28] What do you mean, queuing for shoes?

Speaker 1:
[70:29] Yeah, my mom put me in the queue during the communism. Remember, I was born 1979. As a little kid, my mom queues food stamps. You couldn't buy anything, nothing. I mean, there was nothing. So if we knew that shoes will be in the shop next day, you had to queue all night, so maybe you will get them. But there wasn't enough. We had no food. We were like very close to that as well. Our people were dying. Communism is a pure evil. And that's why we in Poland would never let anyone take over, because we have been taken over so many times. So that's why we do not want jihadists. It has nothing to do with religion differences. We just don't... We see that Europe was taken over. And we do not want to let anyone take over Poland again, ever.

Speaker 2:
[71:27] Yeah, while you're speaking, the whole idea, like when you say if your dad calls somebody a communist, that guy's... It's a curse word to call somebody a communist. I was looking at the hotels. There's this one hotel that pulled up called the Raffles.

Speaker 1:
[71:40] Raffles, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[71:41] Raffles, Europe, Giski in Warsaw.

Speaker 1:
[71:43] Beautiful, beautiful. It's next to the Presidential Palace. It's a beautiful place. And the history of this hotel is beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[71:50] What's the history about this hotel? Let's go through the pictures, because it looks insane.

Speaker 1:
[71:55] It's beautiful. It was re-opened not a long time ago, but it was the best place before the war. Like Polish elite would spend time there. Poetry, music, everyone would be there. I was like, iconic place, the best hotel in Poland. And it's re-built, it's beautiful. And still, when I see how much you pay here and how much we pay for our hotels in, by the way, Great Food, it's a beautiful place to go. And yeah, if anyone would like to come to Poland, hit me, I'll let you know where to go, where to stay, how to do it. And yeah, it's a beautiful place to be. I hope you're gonna come. I did invite you.

Speaker 2:
[72:44] I know, I'd love to come and I'd love to come and have somebody that knows what they're doing, show us around. I wanna go see the Constitution. I wanna go see, you know, learn about the culture.

Speaker 1:
[72:57] Let's organize this.

Speaker 2:
[72:58] Let's do that. Rob, can you make a note of this? I wanna, this is a place I definitely wanna go see and document. I wanna document the whole thing when we go to Poland. Very interested to see what happens. And by the way, language. I'm assuming most people in Poland speak English.

Speaker 1:
[73:15] Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:
[73:16] So it's not even an issue.

Speaker 1:
[73:17] Not a problem at all. No, no, no.

Speaker 2:
[73:18] All right. So that's a must. That's on the list. There's no reason.

Speaker 1:
[73:23] Yeah, let's do that this summer. I think it's a great idea.

Speaker 2:
[73:26] I'm fully with it. I'm fully with it. We'll get the date. We'll find a five-day window where we can head out. Rob, we've got to find a place to do the podcast.

Speaker 1:
[73:33] We've got a direct flight from Miami, from New York, from Chicago.

Speaker 2:
[73:38] How long is the flight? Seven hours? Eight hours?

Speaker 1:
[73:41] Nine. From Miami, it's nine.

Speaker 2:
[73:43] Nine hours from Miami.

Speaker 1:
[73:43] Nine hours. It's direct.

Speaker 2:
[73:45] So talking about Prince Charles, I've had other people on. Tommy Robinson sent some stuff, but I asked the question of Piers Morgan about a couple months ago. You know, Prince Charles has said some interesting things in the past. Here's a message he gave about what Christians can learn from Islam. And it's funny because we have a couple of Catholics, we have quite a lot of Catholics that work for our company. And one of the Catholics said, Humberto said, the greatest Pope ever was Polish.

Speaker 1:
[74:18] John Paul II?

Speaker 2:
[74:18] John Paul II.

Speaker 1:
[74:20] Saint.

Speaker 2:
[74:20] Saint, right.

Speaker 1:
[74:21] Correct.

Speaker 2:
[74:22] So you have that, but now here's Prince Charles saying something like this. I'm curious to know what you think about that. Go ahead, Rob.

Speaker 3:
[74:29] Islam is part of our past and our present in all fields of human endeavor. It has helped to create modern Europe. It is part of our own inheritance, not a thing apart. Islam can teach us today a way of understanding and living in the world which Christianity itself is the poorer for having lost. Our judgment of Islam has been grossly distorted by taking the extremes to be the lower. That ladies and gentlemen, is a serious mistake.

Speaker 2:
[75:06] Do you agree with him?

Speaker 1:
[75:08] This is crazy.

Speaker 2:
[75:09] This is Prince Charles. This is King Charles.

Speaker 1:
[75:12] I want him to go and, I don't know what year was it, to say exact words now. Let him repeat it.

Speaker 2:
[75:20] Well, I think he would.

Speaker 1:
[75:21] Well, maybe he would. Actually, he did not deliver the Christian message. But he obviously gave a beautiful speech to Muslims. So maybe he changed his faith. I don't know. Because the way he behaved, it's at least weird seeing London as a Londonistan, I would say. It's crazy how the city has changed, how the whole UK has changed. Why would you say this kind of thing? I don't really know what is happening in this country, but it's weird. There was no Christian message. Yeah. Right.

Speaker 2:
[76:02] No Christian message. No. By the way, again, I'll ask you, because you exposed one of the world lady got one and a half million dollars in cash. If you ask the question, did King Charles get paid three million dollars from Qatar? You know the story?

Speaker 1:
[76:16] Yeah, I heard about it.

Speaker 2:
[76:16] Yeah. So if you want to pull this up, Rob, before becoming the king, King Charles, you know, then he was the prince, was reported to have received three million dollars, three point two million dollars from a former Qatari Prime Minister, Hamad bin Jassim bin Jabbar al-Tani.

Speaker 1:
[76:36] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[76:37] Three point two million dollars.

Speaker 1:
[76:38] Al-Tani's family, yes. I mean, for them, three point two, whatever, it's nothing. It's nothing. And the question is, if this is the only money he did accept, we don't know, right? We don't know. We know about this three million, nothing for them. And I'm surprised, everyone was surprised this year, whether there is no question message, the first year, I think, without his wishes, from the king's wishes, right? Queen was doing it every year. That was, that's something which, he should answer the questions.

Speaker 2:
[77:17] I don't think anyone's going to ask him the question. Well, can you see if anyone's ever asked him? Because this, the controversy was it was cash for access. And I think a million dollars, a million pounds of it was in a suitcase, cash.

Speaker 1:
[77:30] There you go, there you go, there you go, there you go. They get used to it, they get used to it, suitcases. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised at all. It's, well, but he did not say anything. He didn't deny about it.

Speaker 2:
[77:44] Now, no, this has been confirmed. It's not like it's a, you know.

Speaker 1:
[77:48] Rumor.

Speaker 2:
[77:49] No, it's not a rumor. It's been confirmed. It's been confirmed, you know, but the way they did it, he did not admit wrongdoing, okay? He was in a carefully warded, indirect way through his office, not a personal press conference. His office, Clarence House, denied any wrongdoing, justified the payments by saying the money was immediately passed to charity, proper governors and due diligence were followed, auditors reviewed and approved the donations. He did not admit wrongdoing or apologize. Instead, he defended the situation by emphasizing that it was legitimate charitable funding handed correctly.

Speaker 1:
[78:21] So we are at the point where you're arrested for praying or for gospel song in London, and then everyone is respecting Ramadan. That's the situation where we are at the moment in Great Britain. Again, I'm not Islamophobe. I do not have a phobia. I'm not afraid of them. Should have, because there are reasons to be afraid. But it's not about Islamophobia. This term is a political term. It's about my observation of the reality and the numbers, mainly from Eurostat. If we want Europe to be Muslim continent, or we want America to be Muslim continent, with all consequences, all elements of the culture and faith, say that out loud. If you want Sharia law in the US or in Europe, let's not do nothing.

Speaker 2:
[79:26] Have you been to any of the Gulf States?

Speaker 1:
[79:29] No.

Speaker 2:
[79:29] Never have been to a Gulf State?

Speaker 1:
[79:30] No.

Speaker 2:
[79:31] Okay. There is a, you know...

Speaker 1:
[79:37] Okay, I wanted to go for a vacation. I'll give you a story, okay? There is a beautiful new hotel. Do you know which I'm talking about?

Speaker 2:
[79:43] We're at Saudi?

Speaker 1:
[79:44] Yeah. And...

Speaker 2:
[79:46] Burj Al-Kabir or Burj Al-Arab?

Speaker 1:
[79:48] No, no, no. Not the one. The newest. There is a very new, futuristic, beautiful hotel. So I wanted to go. The story is on my Instagram. Yeah, that's the one. There was a Shabara Resort. Shabara Resort. Yeah, beautiful place. So, yeah, beautiful. And I decided, okay, that will be nice to go. So my friend called the hotel and she asked about transportation from the airport, this and that. And the first information was no crosses on the neck, no tattoos, religious Christian tattoos, no alcohol or you might be arrested.

Speaker 2:
[80:38] Stop it.

Speaker 1:
[80:39] I'm serious.

Speaker 2:
[80:39] This is where?

Speaker 1:
[80:41] So when you decide, but everyone respect burkas in Europe. You don't know is this a terrorist or not. You have to respect it because our cultural system, our system of law is to respect everyone regardless, right? Their law, you're not allowed have a beautiful wine with your wife. You cannot have any religious objects, which are not compatible with Islam. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[81:15] I want to cross right now.

Speaker 1:
[81:16] So what I did, I gave the story on my Instagram saying, if they treat Christians and others in this way, I do not want any burkas in Europe. I do not want burkas in Poland. Ban it. From very, very simple reason, safety. Beautiful place, it's beautiful place. Unfortunately, I'm not going to visit, ever.

Speaker 2:
[81:42] Do you have any tattoos?

Speaker 1:
[81:44] No. No, I was offended. I was offended. You're taking such a huge money, huge money from the tourists, and the first information you're getting is religious information. And that's that that shows you the difference of our civilizations.

Speaker 2:
[82:04] Difference lifestyle-wise night and day. I asked a question about that because you have some American journalists nowadays. I think Tucker just talked about it where he says Sharia law has done more advance than we have done, right?

Speaker 1:
[82:19] That's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[82:20] So Americans are saying, you know, it may not be as bad as you think it is. We should receive it. We should accept it. Maybe it's not a bad idea. What do you say about Sharia law?

Speaker 1:
[82:31] There is a... When I was in the Polish Parliament, I was a member of the Council of Europe, 46 parties, 46 countries, and we had discussion that was like 12 years ago about implementation of Sharia in some part of Europe. When Sharia law is what I meant, killing, beating, that's Sharia law, cutting your arms. This is not even Middle Ages. Middle Ages were advanced in many ways. This is brutal reality of people and philosophy, which is not compatible with the Western civilization. So how can you even discuss Sharia law in Christian Europe when nobody, no one is discussing Christian laws, Roman philosophy, Roman law and Greek philosophy in Sharia law states? There is no discussion about it. So this is suicide, this is suicidal, and I think it has to be stopped. And it's time to speak out loud as it is, because everyone is afraid. It's time to stop being afraid. It's time for brave men. It's time to say as it is, because this is a real existential threat.

Speaker 2:
[84:00] Yeah, you hear that. And now, you know, so would Poland receive, like let's just say we'll look at the countries in the Middle East, right? Some of them have a decent, you know, economy, and they produce people that are good citizens, low crimes. Some of them produce very good results. You got quite a few places that do. If you commit any crime, you're out. You can't be...

Speaker 1:
[84:26] Yeah, that's fine. But I thought that if I'm going to the resort, which is open for international, and I'm not going on the street, and then I can have my Bible with me, or I can have my cross on me, right? This is like close. I'm not out, and burkas are everywhere in Europe. And that's not a problem at all. Even with the level of terrorism we have.

Speaker 2:
[84:50] Well, some could say that's the risk of freedom of speech. Like in America, our risk, they don't have that. So they may say, that's your problem. We didn't choose to do freedom of speech. Your constitution allows it. We don't allow it. We are a little bit more controlled.

Speaker 1:
[85:02] But I'm talking about treatment, how we are treated and how they are treated.

Speaker 2:
[85:06] I totally get that. But what there are, if I'm trying to see what the type of argument they would make, they would say, we didn't ask you to do freedom of speech. You chose to do it. You're the one that's okay with that. We're not okay with this. You don't want it, don't come.

Speaker 1:
[85:20] Democracy, it's not a perfect system, but no one ever invented anything better. Sharia, it's not better with cutting arms, rapes, killing, selling women, and all this crap. It's not better than democracy.

Speaker 2:
[85:36] Would you accept migrants from a high income per capita places like Saudi? Would you take migrants from Saudi?

Speaker 1:
[85:43] No.

Speaker 2:
[85:44] Would you take migrants from Dubai?

Speaker 1:
[85:47] No.

Speaker 2:
[85:49] Would you take migrants from Turkey?

Speaker 1:
[85:51] Zero. Zero migrants. We do not want migrants. This is what I said on Twitter on X yesterday or two days ago. Polish economy, Poland is a thousand years of existence. Poland is a thousand years country. We survived thousand years. We survived partitions, wars, communism without migrants. I mean, obviously, we had people who are coming and but we do not want to be taken over because when we are talking about migration in 2026, it's not the same as a migration in 1850. It's not the same process. The goals are not the same. People are not the same. So less abortion, more families, more children, no need for.

Speaker 2:
[86:43] You've taken Ukrainian refugees, right? And that's been enough. Would you take?

Speaker 1:
[86:47] You see, refugees, you used a right word, refugees. Because refugee by the international law is the person who flee from the country of conflict to the first safe country. Migrant, especially economical migrant is not a refugee. They are trying to call economical migrants and sometimes jihadists a refugee. They are not refugees by the international law. So we took children and, well, mainly women and children because of the war. We did what we should do. We did what international law said. So it's not like we have no hearts. We do not want to help people who are in need because when you Google it, it's not my political opinion, over 2 million Ukrainians are in Poland, over 7 million cross Polish-Ukrainian border. Do you know that in Poland, we didn't have even one refugee camp? You know why? Because they were in Polish houses. People just take them to the houses. There was no huge refugee camps. No, there was no need for that. Poland was so open for the real problem, real war, not for the guys from the boats, not for, like, when you see reports now from Great Britain, when the guys from Stop the Boats are posting, there are 100% men, right, ready to fight. If you've got, like, I don't know, 2 million, and only 10% of them are radical, you've got 200,000 army on your territory. Even if it's only 5%.

Speaker 2:
[88:36] It's not even worth the other 95% is what you're saying.

Speaker 1:
[88:39] So even if that is a 5%, it's 100,000 people.

Speaker 2:
[88:44] Would Poland take Hindus, like, from India?

Speaker 1:
[88:48] We do not take anyone. I mean, you can apply, you can come for some time. Like, we've got Indians who are students, right? We've got some guys who married Polish women. They've got restaurants, food, but it's not a massive problem, right? It's like, I don't know what are the numbers. You can't see them on the streets as...

Speaker 2:
[89:11] But not 100,000. You're not taking 100,000. It's just going through the process.

Speaker 1:
[89:15] You're going through the process. Again, everyone can apply for a visa to be in Poland for some time, but you have to go through this process. Now our law will be changed. Our candidate for the Prime Minister just announced last week that it's going to be much harder to get Polish citizenship. So even if you're legally and you will apply for a citizenship, it's going to be much harder. So to be Polish, like for many people to get American passport was a dream. I'm prouder than Polish. This is my pride. I'm proud of that. John Paul II, King Sobieski, Copernicus, many beautiful Kyrys Kłodowska, beautiful names, people who changed the world and Sobieski stopped Muslims. We're going to give the world next Sobieski soon. You'll see.

Speaker 2:
[90:08] Talk to me about Pope Leo, because the, how do you feel about him? You know, and as well as the exchange with him and the president.

Speaker 1:
[90:15] I think, okay, I'm a Catholic.

Speaker 2:
[90:19] You're a Catholic.

Speaker 1:
[90:19] I'm a Catholic. I'm a proud Catholic. And I love my church. But when Popes are getting into the politics, I do not have obligation for obedience. The Pope, his moral teaching and ex cathedra, that's the moment when we are obliged to be obedient. And I wasn't a big fan of Pope Francis and, you know, all the things he was, I wasn't a great fan. I was happy when Pope Leo was elected. I know that his brother is a very big MAGA fan, and I was very happy. But, and I'm not gonna criticize, I don't wanna do that. I want, because of the respect to the head of the church. But, why would you get in this kind of exchange with the president of the United States and comment on Pope Leo is American? It's not necessary, there's no need. But, what I see, yesterday he went a bit softer, I think.

Speaker 2:
[91:28] He did, yes he did.

Speaker 1:
[91:29] So maybe some advisors told him.

Speaker 2:
[91:32] He said it wasn't towards Trump, I wasn't talking about him.

Speaker 1:
[91:35] I accept it, that's it. God bless Pope.

Speaker 2:
[91:37] Yeah, I actually think they're gonna do something together.

Speaker 1:
[91:39] I hope, I hope.

Speaker 2:
[91:40] I actually think.

Speaker 1:
[91:41] Sometimes tensions, even small tensions, help you to get together. I agree. Great, they're good.

Speaker 2:
[91:47] I actually agree. And I think that would be a spectacle if the two got together. I think it would be a spectacle.

Speaker 1:
[91:52] That would be great.

Speaker 2:
[91:53] I think it would be great. I think the president could invite him to the White House or he can go to the Vatican or something like that.

Speaker 1:
[91:58] Baseball game.

Speaker 2:
[91:59] Baseball game. Or you know what it could be? Oh, maybe not. I was gonna say World Cup, but I don't think Italy made the World Cup.

Speaker 1:
[92:09] No, they're out.

Speaker 2:
[92:10] That is insane. This is three times in a row now.

Speaker 1:
[92:13] For them, it's like, blasphemy.

Speaker 2:
[92:16] That is insane to me.

Speaker 1:
[92:17] Yeah, I know. I'm surprised.

Speaker 2:
[92:19] I mean, I don't think a World Cup makes sense without certain countries. Brazil, Italy, Spain. But for them not to be in.

Speaker 1:
[92:30] Very sad, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[92:31] Are you guys in or no? It's Poland?

Speaker 1:
[92:32] No, I was hoping you're not gonna ask.

Speaker 2:
[92:36] When's the last time you were in?

Speaker 1:
[92:38] Previous one, but the problem is that we had a game like two weeks ago, and we didn't get in. And so sad, but I'm gonna come anyway. I'm gonna come and...

Speaker 2:
[92:49] It's gonna be a spectacle.

Speaker 1:
[92:50] Yeah, it's beautiful. It's gonna be great.

Speaker 2:
[92:51] You're gonna go to games, you're gonna go to the finals? What are you gonna do?

Speaker 1:
[92:54] I don't know about the time. I don't know what's my duties, but I'm coming here, 100%. I'm gonna be here.

Speaker 2:
[93:01] Last couple of questions before we wrap up. So tell me about the story I saw. I said this cannot be real. I couldn't believe it. So a Pakistani judge rules against a UK citizen and takes his citizenship away. This is Mark Bolin, B-U-L-L-E-N. Rob, I don't know if you have, is that it? Okay, there you go, that's the story. Britain for the first time stripped a native of his citizenship due to ties to Russia. Case concerns a 45-year-old Mark Bolin, who currently lives in Russia, the Sunrise. The decision was made by Interior Minister Shabana Mahmood, obviously a traditional British name, on national security grounds. It is the first time a British-born person has been stripped of their citizenship. Previously, such measures had only applied to foreigners. The letter Bolin releases states that the decision was made in the public interest. However, details of the case are not being disclosed.

Speaker 1:
[93:57] Where are the details? Why we do not have the details? Why there is information about it? And there is no details why...

Speaker 2:
[94:03] He was a UK police officer. This guy was a police officer. You know, he questioned the legality of the decision that's not been tried.

Speaker 1:
[94:11] But you know that we've got MEPs who are banned entering UK because there's one MEP. He was banned two weeks ago, and now we have people who are banned for coming to UK for our event on May 16th. So if MEPs are not allowed to travel on a diplomatic passport, if I'm not surprised, and I would love to hear more details about it. So something must be done with the Great Britain, something must be done with Sweden, something must be done with German, and someone should look on Law and Justice Party in Poland and numbers from Poland. Please come visit. I think everyone should come and see. And the best way would be maybe to see the difference. Go to Paris, Rome and Warsaw. You will see the difference.

Speaker 2:
[95:10] Okay. And by the way, I don't want you to get up. So when I ask this question, it's a very heavy political question, so brace for impact. Why? You know, because some people will argue this heavily. I lived in Germany for almost a couple of years. Bratwurst or Kielbasa? Why? You know, because...

Speaker 1:
[95:28] Okay, it's a different name for the same food. I mean, the same in theory.

Speaker 2:
[95:34] There's pride behind this.

Speaker 1:
[95:36] Of course, it's a tradition. It's like, what do you eat for Christmas, for Christmas day dinner, right? You've got specific things in America. In Poland, first of all, we have to explain, Kielbasa is Polish, Wurst is German. So you already have a conflict. And obviously, Kielbasa is much better because it has less fat. Wurst is too fatty. See? I know. But when you will taste it, I'll take you to the place where we got the best Kielbasa in the world. Believe me.

Speaker 2:
[96:14] I can't wait to go to it.

Speaker 1:
[96:15] Grill it, you put on the grill, it's beautiful. Beautiful. So I'm just thinking, I'm gonna put some information about it on my website. Because people-

Speaker 2:
[96:25] I mean, the way you're... Listen, if I'm giving these stats, I would have this on the website of Poland. All of these things should be on the website to sell how amazing Poland is and what it's doing. This is very attractive.

Speaker 1:
[96:36] And I think that will be a great idea to bring American people to Poland, like for a week. Let's do it, Patrick.

Speaker 2:
[96:44] Let's.

Speaker 1:
[96:45] I'm telling you, they will see Poland, they will come back, and they will understand why be like Poland is so real. What is the difference? Yeah, we're gonna bring people to Poland.

Speaker 2:
[96:59] Does the country currently do it or no?

Speaker 1:
[97:01] Do what?

Speaker 2:
[97:02] That invites people to show them the greatness of Poland.

Speaker 1:
[97:04] I do it.

Speaker 2:
[97:05] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[97:06] Dominik Tarczyński, I invite you, if you want to contact me, you can contact me through my website or through Patrick, and let's do it. You know, summertime is beautiful. It's, I'm gonna do t-shirts, I think. Be like Poland. I'm serious.

Speaker 2:
[97:22] I think you should. I'm telling you, I think you should. I think you should have it on your website. Be like Poland.

Speaker 1:
[97:28] You see, that's my motto. I love it. And yeah.

Speaker 2:
[97:32] Can you, can you sell shirts on your website?

Speaker 1:
[97:34] Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2:
[97:34] Okay, so I'm curious.

Speaker 1:
[97:35] We're gonna do two shirts.

Speaker 2:
[97:36] I think you need to do it. I think you need to do it to send that message out there and put the stats up there. Cause when I share these stats, these numbers, the average person cannot believe it.

Speaker 1:
[97:47] Yes, it's very important. We have a little bit of laughing and jokes, but this is, this is life. This is reality. You can go out after dark, after dawn, and then you can, you can do whatever because of the number. I'm so proud. It's cheaper. It's beautiful. Food is so healthy, so healthy. We don't have. It's beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[98:10] Maybe we do a, here's what I think we do. Maybe we do a live podcast. What is the most prestigious room to rent in Poland? I think the hotel, let's figure out like an auditorium, like a hall and we'll do a podcast out of Poland.

Speaker 1:
[98:25] Yeah. And we'll go around and we'll bring, and bring American tourists.

Speaker 2:
[98:29] We will, we will do.

Speaker 1:
[98:30] I'm telling you, that's a great idea.

Speaker 2:
[98:32] All right. So that's what we're going to be doing. So Dominik, as usual, it's a pleasure having you on.

Speaker 1:
[98:36] Thank you very much.

Speaker 2:
[98:37] And folks, if you want to learn more, Rob, let's put his website below as well, so you can stay in contact with them. And who knows, maybe even go visit Poland. Take care, everybody. God bless, Dominik.

Speaker 1:
[98:47] Thank you so much, brother.

Speaker 2:
[98:48] Take care. All the best, everybody. Thank you.