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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Is it his song?

Speaker 2:
[00:01] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[00:01] It's his song?

Speaker 2:
[00:02] He has a single or coming out, I don't know. It's like a 911, I have an emergency, like a summer.

Speaker 1:
[00:08] James, you are the emergency. Don't tell people about 911. Now they know how to... That's a crazy song for him. Okay, well. Hello, and welcome to the Just Trish Podcast. It's Tuesday. You know what they say, Two for Tuesdays. We're going to tackle it tonight.

Speaker 2:
[00:48] Two for six.

Speaker 1:
[00:51] I think you can do that accent. The two for six. Maybe bring two for six back.

Speaker 2:
[00:56] They should. That's your next commercial, the two for six.

Speaker 1:
[01:00] I'm gag. I was so gag on your shirt. Did you have that on the morning?

Speaker 2:
[01:03] I did, yeah. I originally had a Olivia Rodrigo shirt on, but then I figured this Trisha shirt would be a better representation of our branding as a duo, if you will.

Speaker 1:
[01:13] We are a duo. Yeah, we had our first interview together today, which was very exciting. The Harry Daniels Podcast out next Sunday.

Speaker 2:
[01:19] Yeah, big.

Speaker 1:
[01:21] I love his podcast on a Sunday.

Speaker 2:
[01:23] The Lord's Day. What better day?

Speaker 1:
[01:25] I guess there's probably not a lot of podcasts that come out on that day. But are people driving anywhere to listen? I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[01:29] People are at home cleaning. I mean, talking about myself. I always need something to listen to on a Sunday.

Speaker 3:
[01:34] On the way to church?

Speaker 2:
[01:35] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3:
[01:36] It's a perfect podcast.

Speaker 1:
[01:37] They were doing screen time. Do you have screen time on your phone? Mine didn't have any clocking in ever, right? Because like I said, you have to set it up or something. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[01:45] Oh, yeah. Usually, is it Sunday? Like it pops up. Oh, you know, mine doesn't.

Speaker 1:
[01:50] And I even had them both look because I was like, I don't know how to do this. And so yours is. Do you know what yours is?

Speaker 3:
[01:56] I don't know. I mean, it depends. It changes.

Speaker 1:
[02:00] Like average, do you think?

Speaker 3:
[02:02] Maybe, maybe six hours.

Speaker 2:
[02:04] Oh, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1:
[02:05] That's good. Theirs was what, nine hours?

Speaker 2:
[02:07] Yeah. Harry's was almost 10. Mine's just over nine.

Speaker 1:
[02:11] Yeah, to me, I didn't think that was a lie. I feel like, I don't know how long. I feel like I'm on my phone at least an hour a day, like every hour on the day.

Speaker 2:
[02:19] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[02:20] I'm always checking it. So in my head, I'm on my phone 24 hours because I'm always checking it. So I thought that was low actually. But mine wasn't locked.

Speaker 3:
[02:27] Yeah, yours will be high. I think when you were on tour, mine was like eight to nine hours. Because I was following my wife most of the time online.

Speaker 2:
[02:35] The TikTok lives. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[02:38] I was doing that a lot. Yeah, I feel like I probably had the most screen time, but it wasn't clocking as Justin Bieber would said. But I tried to turn on, hopefully, I'll know by next Sunday if I'm also chronically online. You guys, we just did a podcast, so I don't know. I'm already feeling it. I had this wig on since 7 a.m. because we had to get there early and drive back and forth. Drive time was like what time of the hour is. So the wig was on at like 7 a.m. this morning, which means I was up at like 6 a.m. this morning. So I don't know how this podcast is, but I feel good. I had a little moon bath on Friday. I feel very cleansed, so I feel good.

Speaker 2:
[03:04] I can't prepare with sugar, too. I was like, let me get her a donut and get that a little sugar rush.

Speaker 1:
[03:10] I do feel I'm gonna need a little sugar rush and no water. Now I have the water. I had no water, nothing in me, actually. I did stop for a little chicken nugget on the way, but it was, yeah. I needed it because I was like a little delirious. Yeah, but in a good way. I feel like I cleansed myself so much over the weekend that like I'm too pure. There's no thought in my head. There's no worldly thought in my head, which is like such a, you meditate?

Speaker 2:
[03:34] No, I probably should though.

Speaker 1:
[03:36] You should try it.

Speaker 2:
[03:37] I probably should. There's a lot in my head.

Speaker 1:
[03:39] Yeah, it's the craziest feeling to have nothing in your head, like truly, like it's actually amazing. Like I feel like my brains would float out if I didn't have this wig on. Like it just feels like light. Like, yeah, there's nothing in my mind.

Speaker 2:
[03:51] No one threw tomatoes at you this time?

Speaker 1:
[03:53] I didn't do it on TikTok Live. Maybe that was the no tomatoes thrown and no tomatoes will be thrown. You guys, I have to announce. I think for sure, people have pointed out on TikTok that, and I didn't even know this, the signed copy is available on Barnes & Noble for the same price as an unsigned. Why would someone get an unsigned? I guess they don't care about the signature.

Speaker 2:
[04:21] But if you can, why not just, right?

Speaker 1:
[04:24] Yeah, I'm signing all of them. I don't know if you noticed, there's limited quantity, a lot, but a limited quantity. And they pre-ordered these, and that's why I kind of paused my headshots, because it's going to take me probably a month to sign all those.

Speaker 3:
[04:37] It is very limited, because a lot of them are going for the tour. So some people are going to buy them on the tour, but to get them online.

Speaker 1:
[04:42] You can get them online for the same price. That's a great deal. Check it out. Good stuff. Oscar, that vlog up.

Speaker 2:
[04:52] Thanks for checking in, Mama.

Speaker 1:
[04:53] You're welcome.

Speaker 2:
[04:54] It'll be up this week. I'm waiting until I officially move, so I don't dox my current apartment for the last few days.

Speaker 1:
[05:00] They come to help you move?

Speaker 3:
[05:01] Dox the next people.

Speaker 2:
[05:04] The next people can dox with it, but yeah, yeah, yeah. So this week, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[05:08] Are you showing yourself physically moving stuff out?

Speaker 2:
[05:10] No. I do give apartment tour though before I leave.

Speaker 1:
[05:16] Do you want the house tour?

Speaker 2:
[05:17] It is giving that.

Speaker 1:
[05:19] Of your old apartment?

Speaker 2:
[05:20] Yeah, as my farewell.

Speaker 1:
[05:22] Was it furnished when you did the tour or unfurnished?

Speaker 2:
[05:25] It's still furnished at this current moment, so yeah.

Speaker 1:
[05:28] I'm excited to see it. I've seen the outside and I've never seen the inside.

Speaker 2:
[05:31] I know.

Speaker 1:
[05:32] That's exciting.

Speaker 2:
[05:33] It's my farewell tour to my apartment of five years.

Speaker 1:
[05:37] I was very excited. I was showing your Instagram story, obviously to Moses, I was showing it to my dad, I was showing it to everybody. I was like, look, it's so beautiful. Oh my God. I'm like low-key jelly because I always want... Look, this is so California luxury problems, but love our pool, love it so much. But I was like, why is our pool dark and everyone's is so blue and sparkly? I never can understand why. Ours are like painted dark blue or something, our tiles.

Speaker 3:
[06:02] It's just the color of the stucco inside.

Speaker 1:
[06:05] It's the tile. So yours must be painted, what? Is there white?

Speaker 3:
[06:08] Lighter blue. There's different colors.

Speaker 1:
[06:10] Ours looks like...

Speaker 3:
[06:11] Because usually they do, it's called Midnight. It's like a really dark...

Speaker 1:
[06:16] It's a little scary, right? It's a little scary. I didn't notice it until I would see your pool like yours and I was just like, wait, why is everyone has a sparkly blue and ours is like a little spooky. I mean, I love it, but a little scary. It's just dark. It's just dark. So it's just like, anyways, love our pool, grateful for a pool, of course, but yours is very pretty and sparkly and it just was giving... It was giving everything. I was so excited. I was like, oh my God, I want to see. Are you having house warming?

Speaker 2:
[06:41] I probably should once things are warmed up. Although I was thinking about it too. I was like, friends literally consist of like you guys. So it's going to be a work thing.

Speaker 1:
[06:53] That'd be fun.

Speaker 2:
[06:54] I was thinking about that too because I don't know how this came up in my brain, but I'll get there. But I remember because your birthday party was basically people you work with. And I was thinking like, who would be like my similar situation? A housewarming or birthday, whatever. And I'm like, it really is just people I pretty much work with. But when you're older, that is kind of the tea. You have your family and then that you see, and then your work people who is the other half of your life, and that's your whole life.

Speaker 1:
[07:20] It's your whole life. Well, we had one of that Harry Daniels. He's very much like, people just don't make time for you, whatever. And I was like, it's also like the older you get, you just don't have the time to make for people. You have the time to work, and that's it. And so obviously, yeah, I see glam, I see you, and that's it.

Speaker 3:
[07:37] Then there's the second phase when you have kids, and you become friends with parents or kids that your kids are friends with.

Speaker 1:
[07:45] Right, right. Then it's like, now who has kids that we can play with?

Speaker 3:
[07:48] Your kids choose your friends, you don't even choose it.

Speaker 1:
[07:50] I see. I know I got to schedule Malibu's play date. I'm getting nervous about it.

Speaker 3:
[07:54] But we want to bring a housewarming gift, so you better do a party.

Speaker 1:
[07:59] We got to do a party for that gift. No, and that is one thing. Yeah, you're well, though I think the only person I'd go to like a housewarming or birthday, I don't think I have anyone else in my life either. Jimmy, I go to his too. Literally us.

Speaker 2:
[08:12] And I was like, I was getting so emotional like walking around my house, because it's also crazy for me to say it's my house. And then I was like, well, I'm going to cry right now thinking about it. Because you hear like, oh, me specifically, I guess, I saw like an article like a month ago, where like this really top YouTuber, his, sorry, Linus Tech Tips, but Linus Tech Tips, he just bought a private jet. And he also has like three homes. And like one of them is like on a private island or whatever. And then a couple of years ago, there was like an employee came out, like why I quit Linus Tech Tips. And it was like how he felt like undervalued and the stagnant wages and like the employees aren't allowed to talk about wages. And how like even some of the employees that have been there since the beginning of the channel can't even like afford a house. And then I was like, oh my God, like I lucked out. I feel so grateful. I love you guys so much. I know I'm so emotional because you have been just the best. I love you guys a lot.

Speaker 1:
[09:09] Oscar, you made me cry. That's how I felt seeing you get it too. But like, because you are so talented. And I've always said that and you obviously have worked so hard and for mainstream stuff like that. And you are just so worthy of all of it because you are. We said it in the Harry Daniels too. It's like you are like the backbone of this podcast too. It's like I've done so many without you and you get it and we get each other. And I feel the same way.

Speaker 3:
[09:27] We were texting each other over the weekend when she was sending me the pictures. And I replied to them too. I never reply, but I did. And she was sending me, she was getting emotional about how important this is for us, that this is happening and that, I don't know. We were just talking about how much the responsibility we have of the people we work with and all those things. So anyway, we were just happy. We felt the same way we would feel when Malibu gets a house. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[09:55] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[09:55] We're like, this is major. This is a big, important moment.

Speaker 1:
[09:59] But it's all you. You work so hard and you always have worked so hard and you just get everything done. And even since the tour last year, really taking over the hot topics, as people say, they're like, Oscar drives the ship. And you too. We're here to key. I'll give my comments, I'll give my opinion, but no one can do it like you. And yeah, everyone's so happy for you. I saw the comments.

Speaker 2:
[10:17] I'm just so grateful for you. Like, I never thought, I never thought in a million years. I'm so emotional. But like, it just felt like a dream that could never happen. So I'm like super grateful. And also like, you guys have been so supportive throughout the whole process. Like, I don't know what I would have done without you two. I came to you for everything. And I know not to speak for Jimmy, but we have texts all the time about how grateful we are for you two, how much we love you two. And the fact that like, everyone that works for you adores you, you know, I think it just speaks so much to how stupid you guys are. So I'm just very grateful and very happy.

Speaker 1:
[10:53] We love you. And Jimmy is next 100%, 100% next. And that's it, you know, and you help us, we all help each other and we're very happy.

Speaker 2:
[11:00] How are you?

Speaker 1:
[11:00] Yay! Well, go check out Oscar's vlog. To get the Emma Chamberlain West Elm furniture in there.

Speaker 2:
[11:08] You know, that pigeon, that pigeon water pitcher, Darren's like, what the hell is this?

Speaker 1:
[11:13] Honestly, no, I was looking at those beds too. I was like, damn, they're kind of cute. $2,000 are a little crazy, but hey, we'll love it.

Speaker 3:
[11:19] Finally, you have a place to put the rock I gave you.

Speaker 2:
[11:22] Oh, yeah. Anthropology, or yeah, the anthropology.

Speaker 1:
[11:26] A better house warming gift than that. Oh my gosh. Well, now I'm crying. Oh my gosh. Well, I love it. I love the shop. It's the best job ever. And you make it the best and I love us. Me too. And even today, getting to our interview together, it is so crazy to also like, I guess, in a different setting. People have saying that too at the podcast. Like he had a crew of like six people. He has the old talk to a talk to a talk to a crew. And so they do run a tight ship over there, too. The producer was on it. She knew we were on a time schedule. She's like, oh, just time. And she's giving him like last questions and stuff. But it's just so one, I felt first of all, you connect so good. I thought like you were like 20 because he's 22. Harry Daniels, he's really young. And you guys were talking. Alex, I literally, that's when I felt old, but not a bad way. You just, I feel young all the time. I was like, I'm 18. And then like I get next to like a 22 year old. I was like, oh my God, like the references, all this, like it's crazy. But you keep up with it. And that is the magic of Oscar. You can keep up with the 22 and 38 over here. So that was, but it was cool to see you in that setting. Cause I was like, oh my God. And then people were like, oh, you and Oscar are sitting so close to each other.

Speaker 2:
[12:29] I know. And I didn't realize you, that's like the closest we've ever sat on camera.

Speaker 1:
[12:32] That's so funny that other people clocked it. Like you guys are so next to each other. I was like, thank you for taking the middle spot too. I knew, I know that middle spot can be a crazy spot. One, cause you do have to do like side looking, which I hate. And then two, I was in the middle for the Julie Fox podcast and I was always traumatized by that because I was just like the middle, you're just middle. I don't know how their cameras are set up, but I felt back. So I felt teeny, but I don't know if that's how it's going to be. We'll see.

Speaker 2:
[12:56] I think so. And you had your purse on your shoulder and like you could see it like from the angle you were. So I think you're gonna look teeny tiny.

Speaker 1:
[13:02] I ended up putting it down cause I'm like, you don't look cool as cool as I thought. It looks like I'm in a hurry or something. I'm like, let me put it down and not be that. But it was fun. It was a good time. Oh my gosh. Wow.

Speaker 2:
[13:09] And you gave us so much tea too. We can't even repeat it, I guess. But finding out the Cat's Eye tea with Manon, I feel like so relieved. Now I'm in the know. So now I'm like-

Speaker 1:
[13:19] That was crazy.

Speaker 2:
[13:20] That was crazy.

Speaker 1:
[13:21] He needs a podcast where he actually spills the tea and not be scared about it. I'm like, you need to just spill cause he has so much like off the record, Oscar notes, inside, like there were so many inside things. I'm like, are you guys DMing him? How do you know all this information? I was so lost for most of it, but he is super sweet and he actually, he's a good interviewer. Yeah, it was good. I think that'll be a good podcast. I'm very excited. I need a new podcast to listen to. So, it's a good name. I'm surprised no one's had it.

Speaker 2:
[13:43] That's why I was like, oh, yeah, that is a good name.

Speaker 1:
[13:45] Very fitting for him and you. Well, we're here. Moses, how are you? Oh, check out Moses cooking videos.

Speaker 3:
[13:52] I'm good.

Speaker 1:
[13:53] What'd you do this morning?

Speaker 3:
[13:54] Well, I told you, I was everywhere. I was like best buy things. There was so much to do this morning. And I got you the steak for tomorrow. We're doing a special steak striker group.

Speaker 1:
[14:05] I'm on TikTok now where it's like steak and watermelon. Have you seen that?

Speaker 3:
[14:10] I even got the asparagus that was on the side.

Speaker 1:
[14:11] Oh, you got the asparagus too?

Speaker 3:
[14:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[14:14] It's like steaks and asparagus and watermelon. They're like in a rose and it's just so aesthetic and I've just been wanting it so bad.

Speaker 3:
[14:19] I guess I don't need this anymore.

Speaker 1:
[14:24] What happened? Why did you do that?

Speaker 3:
[14:28] Because LizTree, like out of the blue, they just DM'd me and they made one for me.

Speaker 1:
[14:33] Wow. They love doing that. They do that with mine too.

Speaker 3:
[14:38] The title is Trisha Paytas official fan account, which is my title on TikTok.

Speaker 1:
[14:44] That's so funny.

Speaker 3:
[14:45] It's a picture of us.

Speaker 1:
[14:46] I love that.

Speaker 3:
[14:47] It's a biblical. You were the Queen of Egypt and I'm Moses.

Speaker 1:
[14:53] I don't know. I think I was Moses from the Prince of Egypt. I think I was young Moses in that.

Speaker 3:
[14:59] But you were like Cleopatra. Well, you looked like- Anyway, that's what the picture is and then there's all the other stuff. But yeah, thanks for all the support. I love doing the cooking videos. It's almost at 10,000 subscribers.

Speaker 1:
[15:13] He's crazy. He's going.

Speaker 3:
[15:16] People are making the dishes. That's what's amazing.

Speaker 2:
[15:18] I have seen a lot of TikToks of people doing your recipe.

Speaker 3:
[15:20] Making the food. It's just so cute.

Speaker 1:
[15:21] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[15:23] It's mind-blowing because I know how much we love those dishes and cherish them and to see other people enjoy it.

Speaker 1:
[15:28] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[15:29] My whole family loved it. They wanted me to do it again. We did it twice. Anyway.

Speaker 1:
[15:33] No, it's amazing because I don't even post because I'm always trying to post my shadow ban channels. I was trying to post it. I haven't posted Moses' last couple of ones and they've been doing so well and you're crushing it too. Wow. All of us just thriving here.

Speaker 3:
[15:45] The year of the whores.

Speaker 1:
[15:47] Year of the whores. Moving forward full speed ahead. Did you tell them?

Speaker 2:
[15:54] No, but you really manifested how Weekend 2 was going to be the weekend to go.

Speaker 3:
[16:00] Excuse me?

Speaker 1:
[16:01] You manifested it?

Speaker 3:
[16:02] That was me.

Speaker 2:
[16:03] That was you?

Speaker 1:
[16:04] I don't remember. I just take it.

Speaker 3:
[16:07] I said, because everyone said Coachella was horrible, all the accounts. I was like, guys, when everyone talks badly about something, then you go. Second Weekend is going to be amazing.

Speaker 2:
[16:18] You did say that. That's true.

Speaker 3:
[16:20] You're welcome.

Speaker 1:
[16:22] I did want to go. I did want to go to the second weekend. Even Tana was like, I take back what I said. I would have given anything to be there at Beaverchella night too. She's like, that looked like everything and more. I did. I got weirdly emotional too, even though I know nothing about Billie Eilish, Justin Bieber. I know surface level things, obviously, but then I was watching a whole montage of Billie Eilish just standing, Justin Bieber, since she was 13, and having the posters behind her. I was just like, then I got emotional. I was just like, oh my gosh. I couldn't even imagine. Obviously, she's super famous now on her own, but that probably would be so cool, full circle. Doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:
[16:58] What?

Speaker 1:
[16:58] She lesbian?

Speaker 2:
[17:00] She is queer. I forgot if she's bi. Right now, she's dating a boy, not wolf.

Speaker 1:
[17:06] Got it. It doesn't matter. I don't know why I asked that. Can you even ask that anymore? I don't think you should be allowed to. So sorry. My interest or thoughts got to me. Happy Lesbian Awareness Week.

Speaker 2:
[17:18] No, Lesbian Visibility Week.

Speaker 1:
[17:19] Visibility, yes.

Speaker 2:
[17:21] Awareness.

Speaker 3:
[17:22] Beware.

Speaker 2:
[17:24] Beware.

Speaker 1:
[17:26] Lesbian visibility. You know lesbians are my all-time favorite people of 2025, and I think it's going into 2020. I love music, lesbians are my everything. I really do want a whole tour where just lesbians come and no one else, that needs to be their role. But I know all my lesbian friends, a lot of their awakening, I would say 50% was Justin Bieber, and not in a mean way or anything, but they just, that was like, you know, there's always a moment where you remember feeling urges or whatever like that, and 50% of my lesbian friends were like, oh, it was Justin Bieber, which I think is just so interesting. I don't know, I think it's interesting. It just is interesting, I suppose. I guess you just, you do, I don't know. When you start feeling stuff, my first one, oh, I mean, it's a little inappropriate, but it was Donny Asmin and Josephine with 10,000 origin coat, which is like biblical, but like he was in like a loincloth and I remember being like, I remember being like nine. Okay, anyways, we don't have to talk about it if you want to. That's weird to talk about. But I do remember, it's gross, why am I talking about this? Just keep it, I just got excited. I got excited for Billie Eilish, that was the whole thing, and I got excited for her. And then I looked at the whole one less lonely girl trend, and I guess like he does it at every, he did it at every show.

Speaker 2:
[18:30] Yeah, like that was the thing, you know, like who's gonna be the one less lonely girl.

Speaker 1:
[18:35] But you think he knew the girl that he brought up?

Speaker 2:
[18:38] I think he was a fan, like a random fan. Like you know, Zara Larsson brings up someone to do like the Lush Life dance.

Speaker 1:
[18:44] But do you think it's random or you think they plan it? Cause like Brittany planned, you know, like Tyler Oakley coming up.

Speaker 3:
[18:48] They usually vet the person.

Speaker 1:
[18:50] Yeah, I don't think you'd randomly pick someone.

Speaker 3:
[18:52] Cause you have to also have them at a certain spot, queued, ready to go.

Speaker 1:
[18:55] Matthew Morrison does that. It's a specific person. I noticed it cause he picked Chris Olson the first night. But then I noticed he did it with Jonathan Groff and Jonathan Groff was in the same seat. So I'm assuming, and then he did it with his daughter who was also in that same seat. So I'm assuming they- I know.

Speaker 2:
[19:06] I know for Taylor, I mean, I don't know how it works for every artist, but for Taylor, for the Aero story specifically, it was like the 22 hat where they pick a little girl. Her team like is kind of scouting for like just an excited like little girl or little child because it's both genders. But yeah, and then her tour person, her name is Erica. Like she'll go, she'll be like, okay, now it's time to escort the parents or guardian with the child to like the exact spot to be and then tell them like what to do and be like, okay, she's gonna give you the hat. And then you can like shake her hand and tell her you love her. And then, so they kind of prep her in advance, but for 90% of the time, it was like someone that they scouted at the tour. Sometimes, it'd be like Kobe Bryant's daughter, and Taylor was close with Kobe, so Kobe Bryant's daughter was there for one, and then so they set that up for specific.

Speaker 1:
[19:58] Okay, so like if you know someone.

Speaker 2:
[20:00] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[21:40] That's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[21:41] I looked up because I was like, wait they're young. And then they were together 10 years and I was like, she was the one less lonely girl at the wedding, which I kind of like, I feel like it's a little cheesy, but I would love it. I guess if you marry a fan. Yeah. If you're like a fan. And she said that too. I don't know what it was, some documentary or something. And she's like, oh, it's like, I was giddy. And I was like, yeah, I guess you would be. Like that is kind of, that is so crazy. Like you're a fan. Obviously she was a fan because she's like met him and stuff like that before. But it's like, that is so weird to like marry and it like works out. Crazy. And then like, it'd be hard. Then it's like, well, you look at him like a person or like an idol.

Speaker 2:
[22:15] I'm sure at one point the allure of it being like an actual celebrity probably wears off. And then it's just like any old person. You know what I mean? I think so.

Speaker 1:
[22:24] Every time I see Donny Aspin, I'm still like, a giddy.

Speaker 2:
[22:27] We're with him every single day of your life. I'm sure it would wear off at some point.

Speaker 1:
[22:30] I wonder that. I do wonder. I'll never know. But I do wonder that. I'm always like, I wonder if you're still like, wow, you're a celebrity. How do you feel about me? Do you look at me like, wow, that's a celebrity? No, you never think like wow.

Speaker 3:
[22:46] So it's almost like how you feel about it when you're in Glam or not in Glam. You feel a certain persona shows up. So when we're in public and people see you and they get this joy of meeting you, it's infectious. I feel that joy. You know what I mean? I can feel it and I can. It's a very unique situation because it's like a win-win situation. There's a gift being given but there's nothing really happening. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[23:14] Yeah. So you feel it there.

Speaker 3:
[23:16] So I feel that energy. So it depends. If you go on stage and there's 5,000 people, you feel that energy and you feel it. So it shifts.

Speaker 1:
[23:24] Not just in the daily when we're eating dinner. Wow. Look at that beautiful celebrity.

Speaker 3:
[23:29] Well, I always look at you and think you're beautiful. But I think there's a moment that you're mine and there's a moment that you're not mine.

Speaker 1:
[23:36] Oh, wow. I'm always here as being.

Speaker 3:
[23:39] But you know what I mean? Because when you're on stages, 5,000 people, they have a certain connection to you that is different. At that moment, you're theirs.

Speaker 1:
[23:50] It's like the little Debbies.

Speaker 3:
[23:52] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[23:52] From Hacks.

Speaker 1:
[23:53] Did you watch the last episode? That made me cry.

Speaker 3:
[23:57] Yeah, that episode.

Speaker 1:
[23:58] If I didn't have my tubes out, I would think I'm pregnant. I swear. I've been craving chicken and waffles lately. I cried at Hacks. I've been crying everywhere. That one was. Oh my God, when she went to the convention. It was so fictional, but it feels so real too. She was like, basically, does anyone care? I'm going to just do it for her.

Speaker 3:
[24:15] People love Hacks.

Speaker 1:
[24:16] Yeah. She was like, Debra Vance is a comedian, and she's in her 70s, and she wants to be a mass award. No, no one, mass award. I was like, no, I don't think you're big enough for that. But maybe Radio City. I was like, first of all, Radio City is huge. When they said that, I was like, that's also ginormous. But okay, but she's like, no, I want to do a mass award. So she goes to one of those fan conventions, which I love, which is so funny, because Billy Baldwin, I have so many pictures with him, because when I used to do those conventions, he was at all those conventions, and I love that they actually had him there. That was so funny. But she goes and she takes all my little debbies with her, which is such a good name for a fan though. Oh my God, all the little debbies were there. And well, they were pissed because she hasn't been, she hasn't been connecting with her fans. And I was just like, oh my God, okay, yes. So she didn't reconnect. But guess what? All those little debbies, as soon as the call to action had to happen, she was like, oh, I was letting Madison Square Garden know you want me. And they did that. And then they came through for her. And then she got a spot at Madison Square Garden on 9-11. That show was written so well. I was like, cackling. I was like, so, and it also made me really emotional. I was just like, oh my God, her fans came through. Cause it's like, her fans are from all walks of life. And I just, it also feels like we would share a fan base if Deborah Vance is real. Yeah. I feel like those are like, you know, and it is like the parasocial, Tana said that too. She says it so well. It's like the parasocial of it is like, it's so real, like you were saying, like when you, I don't know, I don't know how to explain it, because it goes both ways with like influencers or specifically me or maybe Tana too. But it's just like, you just feel, you like, like I know all mine, like I know, like Deborah knew all her, like number one fans is like the wrong word to use, just people who like support her like nonstop. And so like, I know all mine on a personal basis, like I know Danielle on a personal basis. I know like even like the new ones, like Oscar Craven, Trish Craven, like I know all them on like a personal, like it's just, I don't know. You know those people just ride for you, no matter what and it made me really emotional because you know, not everyone gets that, but the fact that she had her little dubbies, even at 70, I hope I see Aidan at 70. I hope I see him at my Ashton. I hope I see all of them, Catherine, Brian, because it's like, we made it together. We made it through life. We made it to 70.

Speaker 3:
[26:11] You'll see them in Vegas in your residency.

Speaker 1:
[26:14] Yeah, yeah, that's true. Vegas, I'll be there and I think I see Daniel in the UK.

Speaker 3:
[26:17] Everyone will move to Vegas.

Speaker 1:
[26:19] Oh yeah, I would love, I would love to follow up Ravance's career. I would love, she has a great career.

Speaker 3:
[26:23] I was thinking of Donny Osmond more. I was thinking Donny Osmond.

Speaker 1:
[26:28] Be his career or be his friend.

Speaker 3:
[26:31] Yeah, like having his residency in Vegas.

Speaker 1:
[26:34] Right. He does have just all, that's maybe, I would love, Harris, let me know if he ever retires. Anyways, it made me really excited to watch your foray last night.

Speaker 2:
[26:43] I sure did, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[26:45] I haven't caught up on it, but I did see some highlights Maddie's back.

Speaker 2:
[26:49] Yeah, Maddie had more of an arc this past episode. I'm really just like along for the ride. I don't know what the hell is going on. None of it really makes sense, but you know what? I'm seated regardless to see what's going down. There's one scene that I'm kind of obsessed with when like Maddie, her big reunion with Cassie, and it's kind of like a power dynamics thing. Like Maddie wants to look really successful and they're meeting like at a pool, a hotel pool or something. Mind you, it's like summer, it's LA. They have Alexia Demme in a fur coat with her bikini underneath with like leather gloves. And I'm like, you know what? What the hell, Shore?

Speaker 1:
[27:26] Yes, no, she looks so good. No, I love that moment too, cause she looks just so classy. Everything's like, you're forgiven. I like, feel like I watch episode because I see so many clips on it. I gotta watch it. Cause it comes on Sunday nights and like Sunday nights we're sleeping. So we always had to watch it on like a Thursday or something like that. But she did look fierce. I'm too. I'm also like, I don't know. Cause I don't know the characters, but I'm getting to know them. Cause I'm like, Jules, she seems like she's the one like well done and like she's like in a penthouse and she hasn't figured out what did she do in high school? You know what I mean? Now I just want to go re-watch the first episode so I'm like, who are these people in high school?

Speaker 2:
[27:57] I think whatever happened in the past two seasons has nothing. I only watched season one, but I feel like I know enough about season two. But seeing the discourse, everyone's like this makes no sense for the character. I'm like, a lot can happen after post pandemic, I suppose. But my favorite thing about the show, timing wise, the fact that it takes place, I guess in like 2022, 2023, but the aesthetic is like 60s. Yes. Why do Cassie and Nate Jacobs live in like, their kitchen is chartreuse, like floor to ceiling. Floor to ceiling chartreuse, it makes no sense.

Speaker 1:
[28:31] I love it.

Speaker 2:
[28:32] A circular bed, nothing aesthetically makes sense with like it being 2022. And I kind of like love it. I don't know. It's like nuts. It's so nuts.

Speaker 1:
[28:40] The whole thing is confusing, but you know people love it. People love it, right?

Speaker 2:
[28:45] Or are seated. The viewership went up 40% from season two for season three so far. I think people are very curious about what the house is gonna go on.

Speaker 1:
[28:52] It's not crazy. People are always like, I always see so much like criticism everywhere, but if those numbers are up.

Speaker 2:
[28:57] People want to know. Also, their stars have all risen exponentially since season two. It is kind of insane. Zendaya's acting is also so good.

Speaker 1:
[29:07] So good.

Speaker 2:
[29:08] She is so in it. At least she had creative differences and stuff. The fact she showed up to work and she is still giving it 100%. The Emmy campaign is gonna be fierce.

Speaker 1:
[29:22] I think she is the only actress of her star quality and big name that it doesn't feel like you are watching Zendaya. It feels like literally the character.

Speaker 2:
[29:29] It is very transformative.

Speaker 1:
[29:30] Yeah. I feel like even in some of her movies, I feel like challenges. She is a great actress, but it is a little bit of Zendaya. I agree. This one is like, who is this?

Speaker 2:
[29:40] She is so good. Same thing with the drama. She really has gotten so much better. She was already great at acting, but she has gotten even better. She is so good. I forget that she is straight and married to Tom Holland because as Ru, she really been looking like a lesbian.

Speaker 1:
[29:56] Shout out lesbian visibility week.

Speaker 2:
[30:01] Ru is visible to me.

Speaker 1:
[30:02] I do love the lesbianic art for sure. We are seeing all of it.

Speaker 3:
[30:06] She just looks so good. Zendaya will get an EGOT one day.

Speaker 1:
[30:08] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[30:09] 100%.

Speaker 1:
[30:10] She is like there.

Speaker 2:
[30:11] Yeah. She is like the-

Speaker 1:
[30:13] Does she have anything right now?

Speaker 2:
[30:14] Emmy. She won the Emmy twice for Euphoria season one and two.

Speaker 3:
[30:18] She was the youngest, no? Or something like that.

Speaker 2:
[30:20] Yeah. I think the youngest to win it twice too. I think the only black actress to win it twice. Wow. Yeah. For the same role. The Emmy campaign is going to be fierce. Because I don't know if it goes- No, Euphoria is a drama. I was going to say if it goes against Hacks, that's going to be tough because of Deborah Vance.

Speaker 3:
[30:37] She already has that one. She needs all the others.

Speaker 2:
[30:40] Yeah. She needs the O, the T, and the G.

Speaker 1:
[30:43] She can get it easily.

Speaker 2:
[30:44] I think if she went back to singing, she could get that Grammy. I love her song, Replay. Have you ever heard it? Put this song on replay. I could listen to it all day. Do you remember when she was at Coachella? She performed at Coachella.

Speaker 1:
[30:58] Yes. I know her whole musical art.

Speaker 2:
[31:01] 2022, I think. She made a special appearance to sing, I think Labyrinth. She sang the song from Euphoria Season 2.

Speaker 1:
[31:10] There's words to it?

Speaker 2:
[31:11] It's called All For Us, I think.

Speaker 1:
[31:13] It's like, still don't know your name. That one.

Speaker 2:
[31:16] I have no idea.

Speaker 1:
[31:17] That was the one on TikTok that everyone was doing. Where it's like, shoo.

Speaker 2:
[31:20] Yes, it is that one. So I think she could definitely tap back in and get that grain whenever she wants.

Speaker 1:
[31:29] I love Zendaya.

Speaker 3:
[31:30] Me too.

Speaker 1:
[31:30] I'm a fan. I'm locked in.

Speaker 2:
[31:34] I guess back to Coachella speaking of.

Speaker 3:
[31:37] Wait.

Speaker 2:
[31:38] What?

Speaker 1:
[31:38] Before we go to Coachella, wait, can you talk about your music video? I forgot to ask you about that.

Speaker 2:
[31:42] Oh, Yala.

Speaker 1:
[31:43] Yeah, I need to know. I was like, that's what I was so excited to talk to you about.

Speaker 2:
[31:46] Oh, yeah. I filmed it last week. I literally left here. Last one was crazy because I went from here straight to the music video. But also, my house was closing, so I had to go to the bank right after here, wire the money, and then I had to meet someone to sign all the paperwork. They were going to come meet me on the set of the video. I was like, I want to sign up for music videos. I actually don't know when I'm going to be available because I don't know what time we wrap.

Speaker 1:
[32:13] Oh my God. Look at you, LA life.

Speaker 3:
[32:19] I gave you the tip that day. I was like, they'll come to where you are.

Speaker 2:
[32:21] Yeah, you actually did clock it. And you did clock it was a lot of paperwork and you weren't lying.

Speaker 1:
[32:25] They're like, we're coming to you?

Speaker 2:
[32:26] Yeah. But it was like in Malibu slash Calabasas, but like the hills, like literally it was a dirt road. You had to drive up and like the directions were like the GPS is going to be wrong, but it's like you go up the hill, up the dirt road. You're going to pass the horses, pass the horses on the left is where you'll pull in. I was like, what the? And it was like middle of nowhere. I was kind of stressed because I was trying to get the cars to Jimmy and I felt so bad. So I was like trying to call Jimmy and tell him, but I was losing service.

Speaker 1:
[32:53] I thought about that when you left. It literally was like, did Oscar take the cars? It was like, we should have like just, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:
[32:58] I was like, Jimmy, I'm so sorry. I'm gonna, as soon as I finish here, I'm gonna let you know. But it was pretty quick. I saw Misha. Shout out Misha Spice.

Speaker 1:
[33:08] Was she a cameo or was she just there?

Speaker 2:
[33:10] She was another cameo for the scene I was in. And it was really cute. It was a fun time. The artist team was very, very sweet. Everyone was so lovely. She is lovely.

Speaker 1:
[33:20] Did you get a scene time? Are you on screen with the artist?

Speaker 2:
[33:24] Yes, and I have, I didn't know. She was like, I actually want dialogue in this scene. And I was like, oh, we're improv. It was very yes. And I was like, I'll give it to you, girl. Let me give you a little improv.

Speaker 1:
[33:34] Are you nervous at all?

Speaker 2:
[33:36] The only reason I was nervous is cause I was having the worst stomach pain. Like it was like cramping. And like I was just like worried about not being present. Cause my stomach was hurting so bad. I think I was just stressed with like so many like balls in the air at one time. So that was the only thing that I was like stressed about was just like trying to be present when out my stomach was hurting so bad. I was like gonna keel over, but everyone was like very nice and it was pretty quick.

Speaker 1:
[34:02] So what did you, how many people were in the scene with you?

Speaker 2:
[34:04] Kind of a lot. Well, there's me and the artist and I like had, you know, we're in the front, we had our dialogue. And then there was like a group behind and Misha was a part of the ensemble behind, but then other scenes, like it kind of shifts.

Speaker 1:
[34:19] Like there's another, oh, you're in multiple scenes.

Speaker 2:
[34:21] I'm in one scene, but then it shifts. Like there's different male protagonists, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1:
[34:28] Wow. And are you seen in the other ones or no?

Speaker 2:
[34:30] No, I have my one main scene. So it was kind of quick. It was like an in and out kind of thing.

Speaker 1:
[34:34] Wow. That's like never the case in music videos.

Speaker 2:
[34:36] They had clothes pulled for me, which was nice.

Speaker 1:
[34:39] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[34:39] I think it was great.

Speaker 1:
[34:40] Oh my gosh. I was living to ask you about that. I was just like, oh man, I wanted to know.

Speaker 2:
[34:43] It was really fun. And then Oscar Cray, I feel so, I really need to just tell him who it is, but he was like, is it Pink Panthers? And posted about it. I was like, let me manage to explain it is not Pink Panthers.

Speaker 1:
[34:54] It's kind of in the same caliber. They were both at Coachella.

Speaker 2:
[34:56] True, true. Yeah. But Pink Panthers, I think was like main stage or something. She's just like, she's number one.

Speaker 1:
[35:03] So Coachella is hard to get no matter what.

Speaker 2:
[35:05] It is hard to get.

Speaker 1:
[35:05] You didn't tell even Oscar Cray?

Speaker 2:
[35:06] No, I should. I should clear it up and say who it is.

Speaker 1:
[35:09] Give a little insight so they know.

Speaker 2:
[35:11] But it doesn't come out till July. So we have some time.

Speaker 1:
[35:13] July?

Speaker 2:
[35:14] I know.

Speaker 1:
[35:15] Why is it taking so long?

Speaker 2:
[35:16] And they filmed two videos that day. So I think they're doing the first, yeah. It'll be a rollout, I suppose.

Speaker 1:
[35:22] Oh my God. They are busy.

Speaker 2:
[35:24] I know.

Speaker 1:
[35:25] Well, after the podcast on Wednesday, we had a film Patreon for the week and I was like, oh, what should we do? So I was looking at my list of stuff. And I was like, let's do the hike. Moses on the way there, he was like, I thought we were doing this with Jimmy and Oscar. And I was like, why don't you want to go on a hike with me? You were like annoyed that we were doing the hike. And I was like, well, okay. I was like, oh, I just thought it was going to be more people. And I was like, we are a duo. You and me are also a duo.

Speaker 3:
[35:49] A group hike, you know.

Speaker 1:
[35:51] That would be so weird, a group hike.

Speaker 3:
[35:53] People go on hikes, right?

Speaker 1:
[35:55] Anyways, you can go to patreon.com/justtrish. And let me tell you, good thing you and I didn't go. We would have been dead. Really?

Speaker 3:
[36:02] Dead. Oh my God, this was.

Speaker 1:
[36:03] And not from the cardio. There was wild animals. There's it's just people actually on Patreon. Half the people loved it. Other half was like, this gives me anxiety. Like literally people were like, I'm so stressed. It was like, what's the Blair Witch project? Real life. And I was genuinely scared for my life.

Speaker 3:
[36:22] In the middle of the day though.

Speaker 1:
[36:24] But that's what was even scarier. And hopefully our conclusion was right. Because I was like, well, I think what happened was, but we just, there was a, I was terrified. I was terrified. It was so scary. It was the scariest thing I've ever done in my life. And never again, never again will I ever go on a hike. That was the craziest thing I've ever done. I want to go back immediately, but I couldn't go back the way we came because there was someone screaming. And I'm like, I'm not able to go back to the scream anyways. You'll have to see what it is. But I was, I booked it. I had Moses to film me running up that hill as fast as I can because I was so scared. Yeah, well, I did the whole 20 mile thing per Oscar suggestion when we were talking about Brooke Monk. And by the way, it wasn't making fun of her. Someone was like, oh, Trisha making fun of her. First of all, it was just like, oh my God, it was a parody. I thought it was funny in camp and she showed that she did the 20 miles. Clearly, I did not like what like people were saying. You saw the bridge the same time and my goal was to do mile one, mile two, mile three. I was. I wanted to hike for a good hour, but we lost probably like 25 minutes and I was like, no. And then that's why I skipped from mile seven to mile 20 because I was just like, I can't do this. I can't even do it for a jokes or parody because I was so scared. I was shaking and it was a beautiful day, but there was nobody on the hike. You go to Runyon Canyon and there's literally 100 people, not one person on this hiking trail. The first hiking trail Moses pulls up to, he left the room. But the first one was a big bushy area. I was like, absolutely not. Then the second one was more paid, but not one person was out there. Nobody. That was crazy. Then we just heard screaming and then there was a little wild animals everywhere. We had no club, no piece of wood, nothing. I was like, then Moses finds this-

Speaker 2:
[37:50] No club, no piece of wood.

Speaker 1:
[37:51] Shouldn't you go with something in case you see a mountain lion or some shit? Obviously, we see them around our house, but we have protection. Moses had nothing, so he grabs a stick out of the woods and he's just like, I'm like, what are you going to do with the stick? It was just- Anyways, so we put together, I ended up editing it. I felt bad because, well, then I didn't want Jimmy to have extra work or anything, and then I knew you were busy. So I was like, well, let me just edit this, which I think made it seem more stressful for people. I don't think it became cute in camp because even Moses was like, oh, I thought Jimmy was going to do something fun with it.

Speaker 3:
[38:17] Yeah, because at least he can enter the comedic relief.

Speaker 1:
[38:21] Maybe he can just edit it for a bonus video for it, for fun now, because I do feel bad for everybody. They're like, I have to be like, we love this. I was like, this gave me so much anxiety. I can't watch it. And I was freaked out the entire time. It was getting Blair Witch. I was holding the camera the whole time because I thought if something happens, like we need to film it. It was crazy, stressful. That was ours. Anyways, that was it. All right.

Speaker 3:
[38:44] Back to you should go watch it, because I don't want to spoil too much. Because I mean, her assumptions of what hiking is was so far away from what hiking is.

Speaker 1:
[38:53] You told him while you were gone. Yeah, I was like, it should. Brian Canyon is 100 people. This had zero people, which was so nice.

Speaker 3:
[38:59] It was like nice and quiet.

Speaker 1:
[39:01] Also, I didn't speak it to existence. But now that we're not walking and hiking ever again, I just was literally like, also, it always starts with like the husband and wife were married for six years and then one goes missing. And I was just like, no, absolutely not, because he was too calm. He was being too calm about it. I was like, actually, no, actually, let's go back. I did not like any of it. So it was anyways, it was a vlog. I needed a vlog. I had to put it up, you guys. Sorry if it's stressed people out. That's what we had. It was the only day we had to work with. And that's what happened there. So it was at the end, it was all good. There was a resolution. Everything's fine. I think we figured out what the screams were.

Speaker 3:
[39:35] It was insane.

Speaker 1:
[39:36] Yeah, it might have been, yeah. We figured it out maybe. Anyways, go see what it is. But what else did we do? I guess that was it. That was last Wednesday.

Speaker 3:
[39:45] We did so much that day.

Speaker 1:
[39:47] That day?

Speaker 3:
[39:48] We did so much. It was Patreons and filming.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 3:
[41:27] Hot topics.

Speaker 1:
[41:30] My head, I'm not even in it. It's such a good way. I feel so light. I feel so light.

Speaker 2:
[41:36] My occasional intrusive thought about Billy Eilish's sexuality.

Speaker 1:
[41:39] Right. So sorry. That was so weird. But it is Lesbian Visibility Week.

Speaker 3:
[41:43] So, Spice Coachella and Lesbian Weekend Week. Do you have James Charles singing in Coachella?

Speaker 2:
[41:48] Did I have James Charles re-Coachella? You do your James Charles Hot Topics first.

Speaker 3:
[41:56] I mean, it's probably the same, no? Let me see.

Speaker 1:
[41:59] I doubt it. Oh, wait, I'm so confused. What are we watching? It looks like there's a crowd around him.

Speaker 3:
[42:19] Yeah, it's like the ones in the mall, the old fashioned ones, where he sits on the floor and singing.

Speaker 1:
[42:22] Wait, I can't see all the times, right?

Speaker 3:
[42:24] I was looking at it, I don't know really. And this one girl, next to him, she's like...

Speaker 1:
[42:27] Why was he? Also, not that big of a crowd. I thought there was like 1,000 people around him. I'm like, what is this, 2017? Like, what is happening? Oh, okay, it wasn't that big of a crowd.

Speaker 3:
[42:36] Or is it predicting calling 911? I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[42:38] He has a song.

Speaker 3:
[42:39] It's called 911.

Speaker 2:
[42:41] Yeah, I only know because I saw there's like a TikTok trend. I don't know how many people are doing it, but they're doing a dance to this song.

Speaker 1:
[42:49] Is it his song?

Speaker 2:
[42:50] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[42:50] It's his song?

Speaker 2:
[42:51] He has a single out or coming out. I don't know. It's like a 911, I have an emergency, like a summer.

Speaker 1:
[42:57] James, you are the emergency. Don't tell people it's on 911. Now they know how to. That's a crazy song for him. Okay. Well, that's crazy. He's been blocked from a means. I literally never see him and it's a bliss. And then when I see it, I'm just like triggered.

Speaker 2:
[43:17] I know, because I saw a Coachella like roundup video that talked about another aspect of James Charles Coachella Weekend 2. It was he did a brand deal with a private jet company to go to Coachella Weekend 2. And the whole thing was like, oh, I'm not actually going for the festival. I'm going just to get content, because I'm going to recreate one of my past Coachella looks that everyone's talking about. So he went down for Weekend 2, not to like see any artists, just to remake his Instagrams and one of his old Coachella outfits. And I guess also terrorize a group of fans. They're like, we're just here to see Addison Rae. We're like, I mean, Addison Rae is only like 45 minutes. Like that's why I'm standing out here.

Speaker 1:
[43:58] He went to the main stage where people are waiting early. He's like, I'm going to be here at, yeah. I was like, you said the girl next to him was like, no, this is not feeling it.

Speaker 2:
[44:06] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[44:06] I asked Jimmy to zoom in.

Speaker 2:
[44:08] Yes, what?

Speaker 3:
[44:09] I asked Jimmy to zoom in.

Speaker 1:
[44:11] Well, or not. It knocks the girl. I want to be in this video. She has to be in it. So I mean, OK, I will say, I kind of like, not the James Charles love it. But I do like the idea, like Nicky did, too. It was like going down to get the con. Who else did that? Was it?

Speaker 3:
[44:27] All the influencers?

Speaker 1:
[44:28] No, boy, they didn't even go to the festival. Was it Harry Daniels? No, someone else said, they just went, oh, my makeup artist, Ronnie, just went to, well, he was doing makeup, but he just went to the festivals and stayed in the house.

Speaker 2:
[44:37] Yeah, a lot of people do go down or go up to Coachella just to do the activations and the events outside without needing an actual wristband. But he literally just went, took a private jet. The private jet was just him. It wasn't even like he brought friends. He did a brand deal for a private jet. It was just him, and I guess the person filming him, to fly up there, take Instagram pics, make little terrorizing TikToks, and then come back.

Speaker 1:
[45:04] How much fuel did we use for that?

Speaker 2:
[45:06] Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[45:06] How many? What?

Speaker 2:
[45:08] I know.

Speaker 1:
[45:09] Another 10 years of all of our lives because we can't breathe because of James Charles doing a TikTok and a private jet by himself. At least bring people with you.

Speaker 2:
[45:14] That's what I'm saying. In the comments too, he was doubling down and being sassy with everyone who was clocking, does you really need to take a private jet? He was like, it's either this or being six hours of traffic. And I'm like, girl, what?

Speaker 1:
[45:27] Gross, gross. Why? I hate, I don't hate James Charles. I absolutely hate his attitude. I hate his attitude, just thinks he's better the way he like mocks things. Like I just, it's so, it's so condescending and so out of touch. It's not good for him. I think that's what it is. The energy that surrounds this of him is like this negative energy that is only going to like cater more negativity towards him. It's just like gross. It's like this weird cocky behavior that doesn't work well and well for anybody. You know what I mean? In the influencer world. So I don't like it. I know he's been very popular. Also not to cancel this jet company, but who's this jet company that's just taking Justin? At least Starbucks. At least they brought lots of people. You know what I mean? It wasn't just like what? It's weird.

Speaker 2:
[46:13] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[46:13] And is it that good for their brand to have James Charles alone?

Speaker 2:
[46:16] Because at least the other ones you can kind of rationalize a little bit by like, okay.

Speaker 3:
[46:19] Nobody else wanted to destroy nature like him.

Speaker 2:
[46:22] Gag it.

Speaker 3:
[46:23] He's the only one that agreed.

Speaker 2:
[46:25] I mean, just agreeing with everybody else. Yup.

Speaker 3:
[46:27] Yup.

Speaker 1:
[46:28] That part.

Speaker 2:
[46:28] Uh-huh. But the other ones were going to go with or without him. You know what I mean? If he didn't take a spot, if an influencer didn't take a spot on the PJ, they'll just invite another one. But this one's literally just for one person.

Speaker 1:
[46:40] I hate that. I hate all of that.

Speaker 2:
[46:44] People who follow James Charles, a lot of them are young. Are they really going to be like, oh, I'm influenced to now rent a private jet? That is so crazy.

Speaker 1:
[46:52] No. Yeah. Don't and actually don't do that for yourself. That's so weird. I guess if you're taking it, I don't know. I would say no. Also because the dangers of a private jet, they sound scary. Don't do it. But definitely don't take it by yourself. It's so weird. And he gives me a little twitch. You know what I mean? I just get a little twitch in my eye when I think about him.

Speaker 2:
[47:13] And the other gag of Coachella was, of course, the Sabrina and Madonna collab, which...

Speaker 1:
[47:21] Or the lack of gag.

Speaker 2:
[47:23] Clock it. You are so right. Like, why was the crowd not moving? I keep seeing this one thing, like the live chat in the YouTube live stream when Madonna came on the first time and Sabrina transitioned from Juno to Vogue. And I was like, have you ever tried this one? And then the Vogue instrumental played.

Speaker 1:
[47:40] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[47:40] And everyone in the chat was going, Oh my God, it's RuPaul.

Speaker 1:
[47:48] I mean, I love that.

Speaker 2:
[47:51] I mean, I'm so sad.

Speaker 1:
[47:55] More relevant to Gen Z than Madonna. Look, I think Madonna is like a legend and icon, but I do know the crowd went mild when she came out. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[48:04] And it was, but it was a gag. Like everyone kind of knows. But like I, right. I saw a tweet that was like, you kind of have to respect Madonna. Like you respect your granny because everyone came out of her coochie. And that is so true. Like Madonna has birthed every pop girl in existence has been influenced by Madonna in some way or another.

Speaker 3:
[48:23] Either she had to fight for it. It wasn't an easy journey for her.

Speaker 2:
[48:27] So you got to just give her her chance.

Speaker 3:
[48:30] I mean, she's my generation. Like I grew up listening to Madonna, not anyone listening to Sabrina Carpenter.

Speaker 1:
[48:35] Well, she wasn't alive yet. I'm just saying, I'm just saying like nobody was listening to Sabrina when I grew up.

Speaker 3:
[48:43] Back then, no.

Speaker 1:
[48:46] That's what he's saying. She paid the way. All the ones that came after her are paying a much to her.

Speaker 3:
[48:50] I'm just saying that like knowing her history, appreciating what she's done. People don't know. They just know her as a big star. They don't know that she had to work hard to get there.

Speaker 1:
[49:02] Clock it. Tell them. No, with Jen Moore. Let's keep going.

Speaker 3:
[49:06] There's Moore, but I don't know if that's it.

Speaker 1:
[49:08] Yeah, Jen Z won't ever know. Even I really don't know. I just know Britney Spears loved herself for a minute. I was like, I love her too because she performed with Britney Spears. That was a huge deal when they kissed at the VMAs. It's a whole thing. I think it would have been gag year because I do feel like Jen Z's Madonna is Britney because Britney is our generation. But to them, it's like old. It's like the Millennials liked her and I feel like that's us with the boomers is like Madonna was like the boomer Britney basically.

Speaker 3:
[49:32] Don't point at me when you say boomer.

Speaker 1:
[49:35] I mean the people who love Madonna, she's a boomer, she's 68, she's boomer vibes, which is like nothing bad. That's what she is. But better than being, I spent my weekend and we'll go back to Coachella. I'm not diverting from this, but I did spend my weekend. I'm off of AI fruit TikTok because obviously killing our planet. I'm not trying to do that. But I am on, what are you talking about? Millennial Cringe TikTok. We got to do a whole page on just reacting to these. I actually hide under the sheets, want to pee my pants like face turns red. I hate this so much. I actually hate millennials. I think they're the worst. I'm not one of you at all. I will do anything to de-age myself or up-age myself to boomer. I will do anything it takes because I am just so, I hate us. It's very, we've done it before. There's one that they did the Taylor Swift like, oh, she's small girl and he's large boy. I'm like, I hate it so much. We watched a video a while ago too, like millennial YouTubers used to be like that. It's like, no, and it's just like so, so annoying. I mean, and you know what? They even have celebrities. Jennifer Lawrence was in one where they're like, oh, do a face that would ruin a picture. She's like, I hate millennials and I am one, and it's so, but I feel like I'm not millennial cringe. Am I like, am I that person? No, I'm not, right?

Speaker 2:
[50:51] I don't think so.

Speaker 1:
[50:52] Yeah, I'm like, I think I like them. You know, like I don't think I like that ever, right? But I know so many people, God, it's the most annoying. I hate them so much. Anyways, that was my TikTok and I hate millennials. But side note, I will say I'm not gagged by Madonna. I think it's a flex to bring her out. I think it is. And obviously, you know, I love Nonny Osmond. That's who I'd bring out Coachella. So I'm not trying to like anything. I'm not trying to be like, oh, the worst.

Speaker 2:
[51:19] The crowd at Trishchella when you bring out Coachella.

Speaker 1:
[51:22] First of all, let's get down to business. They go crazy. Anyways, I don't even think he's like, anyways, side note.

Speaker 3:
[51:30] I mean, it's huge for her to sing with Madonna as a singer.

Speaker 1:
[51:33] It's a big.

Speaker 3:
[51:34] And she did something with Dolly Parton. So it's like, it's.

Speaker 1:
[51:36] But people weren't gagged for that either. I really just think like Gen Z and like that's totally fine. Obviously old people just get old. I don't think they're like gagged by those people. I don't think they understand the like legendary.

Speaker 3:
[51:44] Yeah, they don't need to be. It's really for hers. You can do things that she enjoys and wants to do.

Speaker 1:
[51:48] Do you think she cares?

Speaker 2:
[51:50] She loves Madonna. I mean, how it happened was Madonna's agent was talking to her at the SNL 50 celebration and her Madonna's agent like introduced himself to Sabrina. And she went, oh my God, I love Madonna. And then she like sang at karaoke at the SNL 50 celebration, like a virgin. And then Madonna's manager came up with that idea for them to collab at some point. And there's also like a tweet that went viral after their performance at Sabrina Wood from like I think like 2017 where she was reacting to a Madonna performance and she just tweeted Madonna killed that. She could be talking about anything, but yeah.

Speaker 1:
[52:27] Super fan chat. Okay, got it.

Speaker 2:
[52:29] Yeah, so she really does live for Madonna. And honestly, I wasn't like super gagged either. I mean, there was rumors that Madonna was going to come out anyway. So the element of surprise was gone, but I was covering it for work. I had to cover it Friday night and Saturday afternoon. And at first I was like, I don't know what to cover because I did all this week in one. Like what is new for me to cover? And then she brought up Madonna and I was like, thank you, Sabrina. Now I have something to do.

Speaker 1:
[52:54] Did it get views?

Speaker 2:
[52:55] It did. The one that went viral out of all of them was like a prayer and it got like two million likes on Instagram. And I think like over 30 million views on ours.

Speaker 1:
[53:08] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[53:09] 30 million views in one day, like within less than 24 hours.

Speaker 1:
[53:13] I guess people were gagged then.

Speaker 2:
[53:14] But then Coachella took it down on all our Instagram reels. I know. They're still live on TikTok and people are using the sound, which is-

Speaker 1:
[53:20] Why? Why do they do that?

Speaker 2:
[53:21] Copyright, I guess. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[53:23] The festival's over.

Speaker 2:
[53:24] T and it's on YouTube live. Like it's not like I stole the footage.

Speaker 3:
[53:28] Also, you guys reported it. It's not about-

Speaker 2:
[53:32] I think I did it too. You have to make it a little bit, you have to editorialize it is what they call it. I've put a headline on it and then edit the video so it's not just in and out of the song. I make it a little package into 45 seconds. That's so weird. I know.

Speaker 1:
[53:48] That's annoying.

Speaker 2:
[53:48] I know because I was up to 1 a.m. editing it, but it's still up on TikTok and people are using the sound from Like A Prayer. Sabrina sounds so good. Unlike A Prayer specifically, the vocals were crazy.

Speaker 1:
[54:01] She's amazing. I know people are not gagged for her anymore. I was like, her performance was boring. I was like, what? It is crazy. I'm in the middle with her and I thought it was pretty good.

Speaker 2:
[54:11] But then I think also the Coachella crowd in general, because Addison Rae's performance, have you seen this one TikTok of her? It's a clip from the livestream. She's like, Coachella, who's excited to be here? Then she puts the mic to the crowd. She goes, OK, I guess we're not having as much fun as I thought we were.

Speaker 1:
[54:30] That is so... So I guess that is just the Coachella vibe, there was like unamused.

Speaker 2:
[54:34] I think everyone just has their phones out and is just getting the content and degas. I mean, even Tana talking about Bieberchella Weekend 1 when no one was really feeling it until the older songs came on. I think the crowd at Coachella just sucks.

Speaker 1:
[54:47] Yeah, I think it's hard to impress them.

Speaker 3:
[54:50] Also, when you have so many stages, so many performers, each person comes to see one person they're excited about. They're not going to be excited about the other ones. So you end up with all this kind of like mixture of people that just happened to be there.

Speaker 1:
[55:01] A good crowd. I feel like if you didn't want to see Addison because she goes on early, you wouldn't be there. Yeah. Oh, she went on right before Bieberchella?

Speaker 2:
[55:07] She goes on like two sets before Justin. Wow, that's a great squad. Yeah, she's on the main stage. But the headline, like a Sabrina or Justin, if you're still there and not gagged, you waited all day just to not be gagged.

Speaker 1:
[55:18] Oh, I see what you're saying. Maybe people just got there eight hours early to see Justin and then Addison just happens to be on performing two sets sooner so they're not gagged by her.

Speaker 3:
[55:24] There's so many more. I mean, there's so many performers. And I know people that go just to see this one DJ or this one group.

Speaker 1:
[55:31] I was kind of gagged for Billy Corgan on Sombr. I was like...

Speaker 3:
[55:37] The crowd goes wild.

Speaker 2:
[55:38] That's me, Sombr brings up. I'm like, I'm not gagging, but...

Speaker 1:
[55:43] Because Ronnie, my makeup artist this morning, he's like, yeah, I do Billy Corgan. I was like, what? You do his makeup? I'm like, yeah, he was trying to get me into Coachella to do a smokey eye. I was like, that's the biggest flex. Why are you not opening with that? How come you're not gagged?

Speaker 2:
[55:58] Who is that? I'm so serious.

Speaker 1:
[56:03] Oh my God, I'm fired. That's crazy. You're so online. You're so pop culture. Yes, Smashing Pumpkins.

Speaker 2:
[56:10] I've heard of that.

Speaker 1:
[56:11] Oh my God.

Speaker 3:
[56:12] That is the biggest band.

Speaker 1:
[56:13] The biggest band.

Speaker 3:
[56:13] Depeche Mode, that era.

Speaker 2:
[56:15] Oh.

Speaker 1:
[56:15] No, they are so much bigger than Depeche Mode. I didn't know Depeche Mode. I don't know any songs by Depeche Mode. They're also like the eighties. Smashing Pumpkins has been like five decades going strong. Performed last year with My Chemical Romance, like Gerard Way looks up to Billy Corgan. They're massive and then Sombra just casually brings them out. And I was just like, okay, I guess I'm the only one getting by that. But to me, that's the real gag. That was the gag of Coachella and no one was talking about it. Is that main stage?

Speaker 2:
[56:39] Sombra? I think he might have been Sahara.

Speaker 1:
[56:43] Oh, it's a different stage? I'm so gagged. I was like, damn. And then Ronnie said he doesn't make up for like three years. I was like, oh my God. Like Billy Corgan, I'd love to have you on the podcast. That's the way, yeah. I'm guessing it's main stage. Sombra's pretty big, no? Is he like the biggest right now?

Speaker 2:
[56:59] He is really big, but the Sahara stage is also big. That's where Cat's Eye was on.

Speaker 1:
[57:07] Oh, I thought they were main stage too.

Speaker 2:
[57:08] No, Sabrina was main stage.

Speaker 1:
[57:10] What's up with Cat's Eye's outfits? Why were they in those undies?

Speaker 2:
[57:13] That's a great question.

Speaker 1:
[57:14] Like they don't need that. They're such good dancers. They're so pretty. They can be in short shorts and cute outfits. They were in these, I don't know, I just was giving pussycat dolls with Robin Antoine and not the Nicole Scherzinger one, not the flop one. So sorry, but yeah, it was giving not Cat's Eye. I was not happy with those outfits, but also maybe because I'm just older and I just thought these are pretty girls. They deserve pretty outfits and they can be sexy. They don't have to be that.

Speaker 2:
[57:36] Yeah, I do kind of like their outfits. Weekend one more, like the purple. They're also like, I kind of undisclosed too. I do like their stylist. They use the same stylist that they always use, Katie, last name.

Speaker 1:
[57:48] It was okay. Well, I was giving like a boy, like a male gaze dressed them sort of thing.

Speaker 2:
[57:53] No, it was a girl. Yeah, same stylist. It's a girl.

Speaker 1:
[57:55] I guess I can't remember them all. It wasn't my cup of tea.

Speaker 2:
[57:58] Yeah, even like Laura, I didn't notice. So like I looked up close, but like she was wearing a corset, but the corset was flesh colored. Like it looked nude, but she was still cinched. It was kind of crazy.

Speaker 1:
[58:08] Oh, I like that idea.

Speaker 2:
[58:09] Yeah, it was interesting. Their performance, I think they did a really good job choreography, vocal wise. But the guy for me, the pop culture emergency for me was Pink Panther's having, it was Manon, Slayyyter, Chase and Infinity. She brought out all the divas, just like be dancing in the background. That's a pop music emergency to me personally.

Speaker 1:
[58:31] Pink Panther's Manon, who else?

Speaker 2:
[58:33] Chase and Infinity, who's an actress and Slayyyter.

Speaker 1:
[58:36] Love her.

Speaker 2:
[58:37] I know.

Speaker 1:
[58:37] I love all of them, honestly.

Speaker 2:
[58:38] It was a Queen convention.

Speaker 1:
[58:39] Yeah. Why weren't you there?

Speaker 2:
[58:41] That's the guy. That was the one moment I was like, oh.

Speaker 1:
[58:44] Was that the stage your fave this weekend too? Maybe.

Speaker 2:
[58:51] Yeah, maybe. I did Addison also brought out Olivia Rodrigo. I was waiting for that. That was actually pretty gaggy to me because I didn't know Addison and Olivia were that close. I knew they were friends because they've been photographed together before, but I didn't know they were that close. But I didn't either. Shout out our sister, Anna Collins because she choreographed Olivia's and Addison. She worked with Addison's choreographers, but she choreographed Olivia for her performance and her whole music video. Petra shot it.

Speaker 1:
[59:20] Oh.

Speaker 2:
[59:21] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:22] It came out recently. Maybe I did see this.

Speaker 2:
[59:24] It just came out a couple of days on Friday.

Speaker 1:
[59:27] Congrats, Olivia Rodrigo. We love you. Well, Oscar loves you. I'm not familiar yet, but I'll get there.

Speaker 2:
[59:31] I love that girl. That's my niece, 100 percent.

Speaker 1:
[59:33] But we stan her.

Speaker 2:
[59:34] It's so crazy that people you collab with are Olivia's creatives.

Speaker 1:
[59:40] Slayyyter should be headlined to me. I think she should be main stage headline everything.

Speaker 2:
[59:43] I love Slayyyter's album.

Speaker 1:
[59:44] Everyone loves her too. And I don't understand why she isn't literally headliner.

Speaker 2:
[59:49] She was the 3 p.m. performance, I think Friday. But the crowd that she drew was insane.

Speaker 1:
[59:54] Yeah, she's so good. And has such a loyal fan base.

Speaker 2:
[59:57] Yeah, but she's definitely on the up and up. But even her crowd for that early, I think she was the first act. The crowd was insane. It was thousands of people. And not even one of the main stages too. So she got there.

Speaker 1:
[60:12] Girl, you're my fave. Slayyyter was my favorite. Cat's Always Be Here the first weekend. They really lost me that second weekend with every outfit. And then obviously, I did... I do love Karol G's performance too. I do love that Becky came back. I love Paso Pluma. I love his band. I love his band so much. I loved everyone. She had Jay Belvin. She's a good performer. Karol G is Beyonce to me. She's kind of my favorite this weekend. All I did like Justin Bieber is like, he looked like he was in a desert or something. I didn't like that.

Speaker 2:
[60:41] I feel like he dressed in a little bit more... Not even a little bit, a lot more confidence this time too. He felt very... He knew he kind of gagged it last weekend. And obviously, the results of the songs are going up 400% on streaming platforms. He gagged the whole internet, the views on all the videos from Coachella's Instagram account being so far better than everyone else's. I feel like he went into Weekend 2 more confident.

Speaker 1:
[61:05] He's like, I got this. The one with the lonely girl, people go crazy. I saw Alexis Oakley, I saw Tana. Everyone's just like, oh my God, he performed it. I don't know the equivalent. Do you have an equivalent? I don't have an equivalent to that. Maybe Donny Asman, Puppy Love. I guess that is kind of the equivalent, but maybe that's it. I don't know. Do you have one?

Speaker 2:
[61:20] My current one right now would be Zara Larsson on her tour. She brings out a fan to do the Lush Life dance. It's like the TikTok trend. It's the dance to one of her songs. She brings someone out to do the choreography with them. Granted, I would be so bad at it, but that would be a gap.

Speaker 1:
[61:37] Are you preparing?

Speaker 2:
[61:38] Are you seeing her? She already was here. Where? She played a smaller venue. I think it was the Will Turn. It was post-Grammys. It was a couple weeks after Grammys, so the tickets were just so expensive. They were like $700. I know. And she already is talking about coming back and doing arenas, so upgrading. Sorry, Deborah Vans, but she did book Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 1:
[62:06] She did. I did $700. You know what? Back to Deborah Vans. I will say, can my little fishies, can you all tweet Madison Square Garden? I'll do the same deal as her. $20 tickets, y'all. I'll do $20 tickets. Promise you, Madison Square Garden, every seat will be $20. That would actually be kind of gaggy. That was a good idea she catched it. I'll be get $20 tickets. I'm like, yeah, just to have... Yeah, because the first episode, she was trying to get the EGOT, which also inspired me that maybe I should sing with Mariachi, you know? Jesus, they are all... I can do it too. I was like, that's a good way to get it. But she was going for the EGOT. Now she wants to do Madison Square Garden because she's talking about leaving her legacy. And I really feel like I should do Madison Square Garden too. So anyways, little fishies, if you want, hit up the garden. Yeah, add up the garden and I'll do it for 20 bucks. Maybe Zara Larsson needs an open act.

Speaker 2:
[62:49] Oh, wait, that would be fierce.

Speaker 1:
[62:51] I'm here for your MSG.

Speaker 2:
[62:53] That would be fierce.

Speaker 1:
[62:54] That would be everything. I love her. No, she is like my queen.

Speaker 2:
[62:56] And then you guys could have a little MSG in the Chinese food afterwords because you know, she loves a little mukbang after. Yeah, she loves a little mukbang.

Speaker 1:
[63:02] How do you know that?

Speaker 2:
[63:03] Because she boasts about it on Instagram.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[65:46] A tour that was canceled, however, is the Meghan Trainor tour. And what a controversy it was. I feel like artists are canceling tours like kind of a lot right now. So I don't know why Meghan Trainor specifically made so much news.

Speaker 1:
[65:57] She canceled. Well, she has like, she's been having a hate train for a while. People really just don't like her. I don't know why. She seems nice.

Speaker 2:
[66:03] I literally was thinking about this last night. I, when I was typing my notes, I was like, God, her worst offense is really, she's just a little corny and she's skinny now.

Speaker 1:
[66:15] She sings the same songs, but so does everybody else, right? They all do sound the same.

Speaker 2:
[66:18] But yeah, she's a little corny. But you know what? If that's her biggest crime in a world of big offenders these days.

Speaker 1:
[66:26] Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2:
[66:27] My God.

Speaker 1:
[66:28] She didn't get skinny that b****. I know I can't support anymore. Sorry, girl. Where's all about that bass?

Speaker 2:
[66:37] That is gaggy.

Speaker 1:
[66:38] I know, but people really did turn on her when she lost weight or something. I don't know. People really just don't like her.

Speaker 2:
[66:42] I think people were already vibing with her already when she was bigger, quote unquote, because I think people still thought she was kind of corny. You know?

Speaker 1:
[66:50] Oh, they were not vibing with her when she was bigger.

Speaker 2:
[66:52] I think people still thought she was kind of because she kept doing the little do-wop-do-wop kind of sound. And then people always bring up her being a guest judge in RuPaul's Drag Race and she's wearing a onesie.

Speaker 1:
[67:03] Well, that was the biggest crime. That one maybe deserved a cancellation, but she should get out of the Kia Asylum for that. You know what I mean? It's been a couple of years. Why did she? Did she ever say why? Maybe she had a medical problem. Did she say?

Speaker 2:
[67:14] For why she canceled her tour?

Speaker 1:
[67:15] No, why she went on RuPaul's dress like in a onesie.

Speaker 2:
[67:19] You should reach out for a statement on that, because I don't think she's ever addressed it, but she should.

Speaker 1:
[67:24] She definitely should. Well, Chris Olsen's been fighting for his life on TikTok over. I've just seen like 5,000. I didn't know the tour was canceled. I didn't know anything. He was just like, how are y'all so mean to Meghan Trainor? And he made like literally so many TikToks. And he's like, I disabled the comments because you all couldn't stop being mean to her. I was like, oh my God, what's happening?

Speaker 2:
[67:39] It was very vicious.

Speaker 1:
[67:40] I'm laughing because it's like crazy.

Speaker 2:
[67:42] It is crazy, yeah. Well, for the tour, ironically, on April Fools, a Meghan Trainor stan account tweeted as a prank, Meghan Trainor has canceled her upcoming tour. And again, the power and putting words out there.

Speaker 1:
[68:01] Never, never.

Speaker 2:
[68:01] You warned everyone on April Fools, don't do it, and look what happened.

Speaker 1:
[68:04] Oh my gosh. It was a fan account?

Speaker 2:
[68:07] Like an update account, like a fan.

Speaker 1:
[68:09] It was like an Oscar Crave?

Speaker 2:
[68:10] Yes, but for Meghan Trainor.

Speaker 1:
[68:12] They cursed it. Well, that's why even on our hike, I was already thinking bad things in my head. I was trying to get it. I wasn't even saying it. I was already thinking like this is going to go wrong. And then it does. And I'm just like, okay, no, like you can't even think bad thing. Damn. Blame that person. That person should be the one. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[68:26] The tour was supposed to kick off on June 12th in Michigan and then go through 30 arenas across the country.

Speaker 1:
[68:32] Arenas.

Speaker 2:
[68:33] Arenas. I know.

Speaker 1:
[68:35] Well, she did play Madison Square Garden last year.

Speaker 2:
[68:37] True. But again, that was just like just last year. But anyway, she said, this is the right decision for me and my family right now. I promise I'll be back soon. I can't wait for you to hear this new record. I'm so proud of it. And I'm endlessly grateful for your love and support as always. She basically said that it's too soon for her to go on tour because she just had a baby and she needs to focus on her family. But I think people were speculating for a while, just that damn ticket master seating chart will get you.

Speaker 1:
[69:04] Oh, I wasn't telling.

Speaker 2:
[69:05] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[69:06] Well, but JLo canceled too, right? For the same reason.

Speaker 2:
[69:08] That's what I'm saying. It's been pretty common.

Speaker 1:
[69:11] If you're going to flop, you got to cancel, I suppose. Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[69:15] And then-

Speaker 1:
[69:16] Or go to smaller. Why don't you just go to smaller? That's what I was thinking too.

Speaker 2:
[69:18] The Pussycat Dolls is also having this problem because they just announced the mini reunion because it's only three of them. And they immediately booked arenas, which is so weird to me.

Speaker 1:
[69:31] At least Meghan Trainor has been touring.

Speaker 2:
[69:33] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[69:33] Like-

Speaker 2:
[69:35] And to come back, not even for Pussycat Dolls specifically, to come back, obviously, nostalgia acts do very well right now. Like, look at Hilary Duff. Like, she's selling out arenas and playing like the older catalog. But she did the test of smaller venues first. She also released new music, promoted new music. She was, like, going hard on the press tour before announcing an arena tour.

Speaker 1:
[69:56] Yeah, the Pussycat Dolls con came on nowhere. You're just like-

Speaker 2:
[69:58] Uh-huh. Like, I didn't know that was happening.

Speaker 1:
[70:02] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[70:02] So it's very odd. And I think people just got to, like, manage expectations a little bit. Like, why are you immediately going to arenas? You know, like, what is the harm in, like, a theater tour? Like, Trisha Paytas does.

Speaker 1:
[70:16] Yeah, has her own theater tour.

Speaker 2:
[70:18] Like-

Speaker 1:
[70:18] No, there's no- nothing wrong with it. Although I do want to play Madison Square Garden, so. And I guess I could also lower ticket prices, maybe. Like, maybe they didn't want to lower ticket prices.

Speaker 2:
[70:28] Yeah, maybe. That's the thing, too, is the prices have been so crazy that, like, I feel like a couple years ago, people were able to casually go to concerts more. Whereas now, the fees and even just the upfront prices are so high, that people have to be, like, choosier with, like, who they actually see in person. And that is something that really needs to be figured out by the government. I don't know, like, why? Because it's like Ticketmaster kind of has, like, the monopoly, and they can just price it whatever, and no one can do anything about it, you know? So it's like-

Speaker 1:
[71:01] I thought you do have a say on Ticketmaster.

Speaker 2:
[71:04] The artists can, like, weigh in. Yeah. But then they still have, like, the fees and stuff, where they just add stuff. Oh, I see, just add stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[71:13] Arenas are hard, I think, unless- I think just no. And she did just go on tour last year. I do think- I mean, even me, like, with Trish Miss, it's like, yeah, some people, like, I want to go back to Toronto, and, like, you've been to Toronto too many times. I'm like, but they love me there. And they're like, how about Edmonton? I was like, ah, I don't know. Calgary. I was like, well, let's go back to Toronto. You know, like, it's like, I think they- Yeah, I think in general, it's just a thing, but touring is fun. That sucks. Well, people, like I said, I think just want to be mad.

Speaker 2:
[71:42] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[71:42] People are so mean too, because like, oh, is she flopped? We can just call it out more and be like, you flop. Well, damn, she's not going to say that.

Speaker 2:
[71:51] That is honestly the deep- Like, I wonder if she just flat out said, they ain't selling, so I have to cancel it.

Speaker 1:
[71:59] Right.

Speaker 2:
[71:59] Like, would that have gone over better?

Speaker 1:
[72:01] I don't know. I don't know either. I guess, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[72:04] Because what can you really say at that point? It almost is kind of all Rosalie back to Debra Vance, but it is kind of the Debra Vance thing where the whole, like, arc and Hacks was, like, another, what, autograph signer? Another, like, star at the thing was, like, just tell them what's really going on because they're your fans and they'll relate to you more if you're just honest and you just say, I need your guys' help right now. Like, if you just were up front, like, maybe things would have turned around. But, like, wow, like, you know what? I do want to see Meghan Trainor live and I want to support her when she needs us, you know?

Speaker 1:
[72:34] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[72:34] So I think just be honest.

Speaker 1:
[72:36] I think so too. I don't know. People, I don't know, she didn't really say anything, though. She didn't really.

Speaker 2:
[72:42] She just released that one statement and then kept it moving and Chris Olsen is doing all the talking for her, which that's a good friend, at least.

Speaker 1:
[72:48] Good friend. Don't know if I'd want that. You know what I mean? Because it just looks sus. Like, if you're just my talking head and like, well, Trisha's on TikTok, wow, and Trisha talk about it. You know what I mean? Like, love it. One TikTok's good. Five is kind of crazy. Then you look a little bit like, you're meanies. I mean, people are being mean. Look, I get it, but...

Speaker 2:
[73:06] And then the gag is too that the day before she sold her house, like her mansion, so people are really going with the narrative of, oh, she broke. But I don't think she broke because again, the songwriter money is pretty good. Even in the streaming age, she's written a lot of like hits.

Speaker 1:
[73:21] She also, that house, I think it's sold. It's been up for sale for like a year. And she-

Speaker 2:
[73:28] 21 months.

Speaker 1:
[73:29] From what I've heard, I'm not like her friend. I'm not here from her, but from what I've heard, from reliable sources, she has like a house worth double that now. So I think it's fine. I think she-

Speaker 2:
[73:38] She's not like sizing down, but-

Speaker 1:
[73:39] No, yeah, she definitely going up. And I think it just sold that day. And people, also like who cares? If someone's broke and they sell a $6 million house, guess what? They're not broke anymore. They got some money back. Like it's just like, people are just so mean. It's bad. That's bad. That's also, it's like the James Charles effect too, where it's saying call 911. It's like that same energy where like you call someone broke, the energy is gonna make you broke. You know what I mean? It's just, it's fine. We all go broke at some point. You've been broke, I've been broke, we've all been broke.

Speaker 2:
[74:06] And people are also clanging on that. It was originally listed for 12 million, but it sold for a measly 6.83 million. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:
[74:14] Well, that's a crazy loss.

Speaker 2:
[74:15] It is a crazy lot. I mean, she bought it for 6.9 and then she did a lot of, sorry, she bought it for 6.5 in 2020 and then she renovated it a lot and she built a gym, walk-in closet. And a recording studio into it. So she did put a lot of money into it. So she did technically take a loss, but like, I think she's fine.

Speaker 1:
[74:35] She also built like Bora Bora back there. Did you see the backyard?

Speaker 2:
[74:38] No.

Speaker 1:
[74:39] Oh my, I remember when I walked in, cause I did the podcast at that house and I remember probably walked in, obviously it's like sold now, so it doesn't matter. But like that backyard literally look like Bora Bora. There's like a waa, there's like a lazy river, water slides. There's like a mountain. It's like, I think you could see it in some of the photos. It was so crazy. Yeah, I never show this. I'm like, this is insane. Look like a waterpark in her backyard. She was like, yeah. Oh, I think she said she couldn't go to Bora Bora on vacation for a couple of years because of how much it cost or something like that. Like that probably in my estimation, probably would be like two degree million dollars that she put in the back.

Speaker 2:
[75:07] That's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[75:08] So I guess you put in a lot. But maybe not everyone wants that. I loved it. I would want it. But maybe people are like, this looks like a circus, you know, which isn't great. But then the other recording studio, it was a cute house. Kind of got a main street though. It was kind of like crowded. So Liz0 too, she just sold her house and it was like a $4 million. I guess maybe just like the market was high at one point, now it's not.

Speaker 2:
[75:28] Yeah, right now me and my real estate team, but it is a buyer's market right now. And it's funny because I still like, I think I'm just nosy because I don't obviously need the real estate app notifications. But I still like to track and see like houses that I was looking at at one point, like how are they doing now?

Speaker 1:
[75:43] Yeah, I do that too.

Speaker 2:
[75:44] And some of them are still up there and I see those price cuts keep happening and I'm like, mm-mm-mm.

Speaker 1:
[75:48] Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:
[75:50] Yeah, it's the buyer's market right now, not the seller's market. Interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[75:54] People are crazy. Yeah, it's like the Liz1 too. She lost 4 million, but she still sold it for $1,000,000. I'm like, I think they're all.

Speaker 2:
[75:59] Everyone's still doing fine.

Speaker 1:
[76:00] They're doing fine. People just love to be mean. I guess leave Meghan Trainor alone. I mean, really, like you said, she's really kind of harmless. It's not like she James Charles, you know what I mean? Like it's like crazy. Yeah, the guys and what people get away with. Yeah, there's just people online that are like awful, awful people and they just don't get the same hate, you know?

Speaker 2:
[76:21] Yeah. Even like Glavicular, I feel like people are nicer to him than Meghan Trainor.

Speaker 1:
[76:25] Yeah, no, actually. Oh, he's so sweet. Oh, he like yelled at a girl for littering. Like he there just like find out any little thing and I'm just like, okay, but he said like some awful things. I'm sure he could sell out an arena. You know what I mean? Show him at Madison Square Garden three nights in a row.

Speaker 2:
[76:38] That is actually so scary because you're right. I think that's true.

Speaker 1:
[76:41] Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[76:42] If he was on Madison Square Garden, it would sell out so fast.

Speaker 1:
[76:44] So crazy. That's like so wild. I know. It's bizarre. I feel like I'm going to go to Madison Square Garden now. I feel like I could do it for $20 a ticket. I think so. I think the ticket prices get people. I'm sure Meghan's was probably high. I'm assuming at least over 100. Not cheap. Make him miss you. Come back with an all-star tour in 10 years. I think that's the best way to go.

Speaker 2:
[77:08] Okay. Tickets went up to about $200. Averaging around $120.

Speaker 1:
[77:15] That's expensive.

Speaker 2:
[77:17] Then some ended up getting listed as low as $13. I guess maybe the price cuts still weren't moving.

Speaker 1:
[77:26] She tried a price cut. Well, she tried.

Speaker 2:
[77:27] She tried.

Speaker 1:
[77:29] I want to just chill. She's still all about that base. 40 billion streams.

Speaker 2:
[77:34] The other house drama I forgot to get to in Coachella, so instead I'll tie it into houses, is Tana's Coachella house situation. Her story time of someone just going into her house that she went into.

Speaker 1:
[77:46] Crazy.

Speaker 2:
[77:47] This is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[77:47] Yeah. Oh my God. Two girls. I know. I was going to get... Well, I knew when it happened, she was like, oh yeah, like two people got into my house. I thought it was here. I didn't know it was out in Coachella. I didn't know the whole thing. Obviously you guys go to Tana's. She's so funny. She's like, I just did a whole podcast about this. Cause I haven't seen her. I'll see her tomorrow. I haven't seen her. I'm like, what podcast did you do? Even for her is like, what?

Speaker 2:
[78:03] Girl, I'm sure yours will come out before whatever one she went and did. Because it's been a few months of her doing her own podcast and I'm still waiting. Like, so don't even sweat it.

Speaker 1:
[78:16] So real. I know. She's like, I just did an hour long podcast about that. That's why I'm like so curious to talk about it tomorrow. Cause I want to know the tea too. But I'm like, you did the story time. You did the podcast. You did another podcast. She's in New York. She's all over the place. Yeah. It's, I mean, that is a wild story. Basically, yeah, like two girls like broke into her house. It's so funny. Cause I've had something like some like this happened too. And like, I guess they didn't break in. I guess they had the code. And she's like, that's from, she went to the house on Verbo and Verbo used to come with all the Helios. And she thinks like it's either a Helios employee or like whatever. Cause they got in with the code. Then they were saying it's like the owner's daughter, but the owner doesn't have daughters. It was like this whole thing, but they like left like photo strips of themselves with their IG handles on it. So they like broke in and always got it and just like left that there. Like it was so weird.

Speaker 2:
[78:59] I saw the other TikToks too from weekend one of Coachella where people clearly on something were like, I walked up to Tana Mongeau and I tried to go out and party with her, but she's like, oh, I'm sober now, I'm not partying. And I was like really upset because I wanted to party with her and I love her. Like she's my favorite person in the world. I think people expect her to still be like 18 year old Tana who's down for whatever. And like maybe 18 year old Tana would be like, that's so funny. But like she's an adult.

Speaker 1:
[79:27] Yeah, she's like, I'm paranoid. Like she says she's like, I have to talk to her.

Speaker 2:
[79:31] Yeah. So that's obviously not gonna fly.

Speaker 1:
[79:35] Took it seriously because they were two girls. So she's like, no one's taking this seriously. No one cares.

Speaker 2:
[79:38] Like, so crazy. And it again, at first I was like, how is this even possible? What? Like they left photo strips. And she really had receipts to prove her story. It does sound so like unbelievable, but she really gagged it with the receipt. So I was gobsmacked. But also it's so real when she's like, she called the police and they technically were like, well, they didn't break in because they have the code. And I didn't know about this is like either, but my realtors were telling me they had a listing in LA that was kind of big news like last year where it was being squatted in by an OF model. And like all these OF models were squatting in one of their listings for like weeks and shooting content and stuff in there. And then one time one night they went back to the listing to like prepare it for a showing. And all of a sudden there was like all these people inside and they're like what the how are there all these people they called the cops. It was like big news like helicopters came and everything, but they couldn't press charges or whatever because technically they there was no like private property don't trespass signs.

Speaker 1:
[80:47] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[80:48] Isn't it crazy? And also if one of the people squatting in there like slipped and fell or whatever, technically they could sue them.

Speaker 1:
[80:54] Oh, my.

Speaker 2:
[80:55] Their house. So it's the law is so weird about like you would think if you're going into property that you're not renting or you don't own whatever it be a crime. But it's very weird.

Speaker 1:
[81:07] No, what rules are laws are crazy. Yeah, you're like literally someone can just like start living in your house and be like, I live in this house now. You can't kick me out. It's so weird. That actually freaks me out, especially in California. Those kind of things are so weird. People started getting mailed to your house or something. It's so odd. Weird behavior.

Speaker 2:
[81:26] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[81:27] Don't do that weird. Yeah, that happened. Not quite like that, but that's why I never use Sephora. I'm like, oh, sign up for points. I used to sign up for points back in the day in 2013, 2014. I used to have so many points. I used to have literally 500,000 points. So many because I was just saving them. I have so many points. Then one time I went to Sephora and they were all gone. It was literally someone that worked at Sephora. I took all my points and whatever. I was just like, Sephora. Every time they asked me, do you want to start a beauty insider? Absolutely not. Like you guys stole my information. You called me. You used all my points because I kept getting this number. And it was like the same person that stole all the points. I was like, yeah, it was just shady. And I was just like, no, never again. So y'all are weird if you look up someone's private information and go in there. Yeah, I don't know what the other people think, but it's not cute.

Speaker 2:
[82:07] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[82:08] It's not cute.

Speaker 2:
[82:09] Because yeah, I guess that's really the only theory that makes sense in Tana's case is that someone was able to access the back end and get the information.

Speaker 1:
[82:16] The code. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[82:17] Yeah. Because I remember when I worked at Urban Outfitters, God, 2014, maybe 2015, yeah, 2014. But yeah, it is crazy how much information is saved in those systems. And you just look up a celebrity's name and you see all the orders and everything.

Speaker 1:
[82:34] No, yeah, absolutely not. That's so weird. Yeah, that's like the airlines too. They'll be like, oh yeah, I saw you in the call log yesterday and I didn't know it was actually going to be you. I was like, that's so weird. What does that mean? Just get all the names of the people that are being on your flight? I guess you need it, but a little weird. I use a code name now. Ever since the tour last year, I've been using like code names for everything. So that's why I know, like even if there's a good delivery and it's like delivery for Trisha Paytas, I'm like, no, no, not a real delivery because that's not what I use. It's kind of what you need to do. Everybody should do that because everyone's just, even regular people are getting attacked.

Speaker 2:
[83:02] I know like a lot of, yeah, you're right. Especially on tours, like celebrities will use like pseudonyms for hotels and stuff, whatever. But then I think for Harry Styles, they found out what pseudonym he was using. So that was the whole thing.

Speaker 1:
[83:12] Debra Vance.

Speaker 3:
[83:14] That was a pseudonym.

Speaker 2:
[83:16] Oh, yes. I forgot about that. I forgot he was using that.

Speaker 1:
[83:19] Harry Styles was using DeVance. And Gene Smart just talked about it in an interview. And I guess he sent her flowers. Like, Harry Styles sent Gene Smart like flowers. He gave her tickets to his show. I was like, the concept of Harry Styles watching Hacks and then using Debra Vance as his login. Isn't that so funny? That it all goes back to Debra Vance. But yeah, you really need to because also hotels, I get they're trying to be nice, but like, yeah, sometimes like I'll be staying at a hotel, and like glam will come up, but you'll need like an elevator to come or you'll need a key to come up. But they're like, oh, they just let us up. I was like, OK, let's not. Why are we doing that? Like, then just let people up. Like, it's so crazy. But yeah, now you always have to do the secret name. Oh, she's the Sprouse twins. He got he would.

Speaker 2:
[83:57] Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:
[83:58] An intruder at gunpoint.

Speaker 2:
[84:00] I know Dylan Sprouse.

Speaker 1:
[84:01] The one that's married to the model.

Speaker 2:
[84:02] Yes, he's married to Barbara Palvin, the Victoria Secret model. Yep.

Speaker 1:
[84:07] How did he get her?

Speaker 2:
[84:09] I think she is like, she's gorgeous. He's also really handsome, too. Yeah, I would say they're like both really nerdy. Like they like it's not like a try to be quirky thing. It's like they literally just they like to make their own cosplays for anime. They watch anime together. They play video games together.

Speaker 1:
[84:27] That's cute.

Speaker 2:
[84:27] Like they're very just like chill, low key. I think that's why everyone was already like really turned on when Dylan Sprouse like apprehended an intruder in his house because Barbara Palvin saw a stranger like in their yard, told Dylan like Dylan had her go like hide, call 911 and he tackled the trespasser and held them at gunpoint until 911 came. And everyone is like wet for Dylan Sprouse now.

Speaker 1:
[84:57] Yeah, absolutely. That's crazy because also he's like, he's also a celebrity, so he could just be like, what do we do? Let's hide together. The fact. Yeah. The fact that he's just like, I'm going to defend our house. And like the person didn't even make it inside. He didn't, whatever. He's just like, absolutely not. And holds in there until the cops come. I mean, brave.

Speaker 2:
[85:11] Fierce as he is.

Speaker 1:
[85:13] How old is he? He seems young. I probably shouldn't say that. He's my age.

Speaker 2:
[85:16] Is he?

Speaker 1:
[85:16] God, I think of them as like 12. Are they your age?

Speaker 2:
[85:20] Yeah. It's like that era. Selena, Miley, the Sprouse twins, Demi, we're all 92.

Speaker 1:
[85:26] Wow. So they're 33. Is that the right math? I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[85:30] Or probably 34 now, actually.

Speaker 1:
[85:33] That's crazy. They were so little. How do people grow up like that? That's just crazy. They're little kids and then they grow up.

Speaker 2:
[85:39] I mean, the concept of aging, but yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[85:42] That's what I'm saying though. Aging is a crazy concept. I saw an interview with Cher and they're like, how does it feel to get old? It sucks. I was like, that's kind of real, actually. I don't think anybody wants to get old. You don't want to die either, but I wish we could just say the age we like to be. Because it is crazy. Those little twins are like, man, crazy. It is a crazy concept. So, so wild to me.

Speaker 2:
[86:06] Well, kudos to Dylan. He doesn't play about his wife.

Speaker 1:
[86:09] No.

Speaker 2:
[86:10] It's so real.

Speaker 1:
[86:11] Defend. Defend your home.

Speaker 2:
[86:12] I love them together too. I think I've just edited so many videos of them that I know their whole lore and I think they're very sweet.

Speaker 1:
[86:18] How, when do they get married? I guess they're not that young anymore.

Speaker 2:
[86:21] They've been together a while, but they got married last year, I believe. Kind of on the low. I think they got documents of when she changed her name legally to Barbara Sprouse. She still goes by Calvin professionally, but legally, it's Sprouse.

Speaker 1:
[86:36] It's crazy. Who just changed her name? I was like, that's crazy. Remy Ashton is awesome. Remy Cruz is now Remy Parsons. I'm like, damn, she's changed her name a lot. It's hard to keep up because at Coachella, she has a Ms. Remy Cruz bowl, but then it's like they crossed out and put Ms. Remy Parsons. But you should just cut the Cruz for the bowl because we love that you took that name, but also we don't know you as that. Because every time I see Ms. Remy Parsons, I'm like, what? Who is this?

Speaker 2:
[87:01] Yeah, T. And especially sometimes she goes the full Remy Cruz Ashton Parsons. She uses all of them sometimes, too.

Speaker 1:
[87:12] Two last names, Cruz Ashton?

Speaker 2:
[87:14] I think so, yeah. On her, someone had to look her up. I think someone at my work reached out to find her on her team information. So you have to put in their name, and then it shows up in this website of who represents them or whatever. And they had the fool. And they asked me, why does she have five last names? And I had to explain.

Speaker 1:
[87:32] It's going to be our kids. Paytas Hackman, whoever they marry, it's going to be three last names. It's going to be, it's a lot. Yeah, the paperwork alone is just crazy. I think I changed my name on Instagram. To Paytas Hackman, but to change it fully is a lot. People say, oh, marriage is just a certificate or a piece of paper. It's also like, yeah, so why do we have to change our name just because we're married?

Speaker 2:
[87:55] True.

Speaker 1:
[87:56] What's the concept? What do you think is the origins of that?

Speaker 2:
[87:58] Oh, good question. Is it for me looking the most? Is it like a property thing? I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[88:03] Is it a what?

Speaker 2:
[88:04] A plot? A property kind of thing. If you have the same names for owning property or owning things, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[88:09] I guess the hotels, when you go.

Speaker 3:
[88:11] I mean, it's like religious and administrative.

Speaker 1:
[88:14] Oh, administrative. Maybe for the plot when you die, then you can have the same name on the plot.

Speaker 2:
[88:18] Oh, gag, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[88:21] It's a lot. It's a lot to change your name.

Speaker 2:
[88:24] Also, I just realized you can tell I was with Harry Daniels this morning because every sentence is gag and tea.

Speaker 1:
[88:28] I know.

Speaker 2:
[88:29] I know.

Speaker 1:
[88:31] I think that's the other reason I went into meditative mode. Love him. But honestly, my brain was overloaded, over-stimulated, trying to keep up with everything. And I was like, I don't know what's happening. So then I just zoned out afterwards. I just cleared my head after.

Speaker 2:
[88:43] That's smart because I'm realizing as I speak, every sentence is gag, tea, gag, tea.

Speaker 1:
[88:49] Yes, he was.

Speaker 2:
[88:50] And that is when he was here, everything was well, yes. And that's when my well, yes became my vocal stim. I get vocal stims like so easy.

Speaker 1:
[89:00] Vocal stims are my new favorite thing. I love when people like, here's my vocal stim of the week. What does that mean? That's just like, you can't stop saying something. I do love with your vocal stim this week.

Speaker 2:
[89:09] I guess it's Harry Daniels right now with a little gag or two.

Speaker 1:
[89:15] I need a vocal stim.

Speaker 2:
[89:18] Usually my vocal stims do come from my mother, Jen McAllister.

Speaker 1:
[89:23] Oh, is it your actual mother?

Speaker 2:
[89:24] No, no. My spiritual mother, Jen McAllister, usually I get my vocal stims from her or drag race, like a lot of drag, gay.

Speaker 1:
[89:32] I think we say mama.

Speaker 2:
[89:34] That comes from Jen McAllister.

Speaker 1:
[89:36] Oh, does she? Sounds drag to me.

Speaker 2:
[89:38] I'm sure for her, it originated from something gay, but the way she spells it out is mama. That's how you do it. M-A-W-M-A-W.

Speaker 1:
[89:46] Yeah, you said it this morning.

Speaker 2:
[89:47] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[89:47] Maybe you laugh.

Speaker 2:
[89:48] That's where origins are Jen McAllister, so it should show out. Nothing I say, I'll put a blanket disclaimer, I never say or type anything original. It all comes from somewhere.

Speaker 1:
[89:57] But nobody does.

Speaker 2:
[89:57] No one does. You're all influenced by something.

Speaker 1:
[89:59] I know. But don't be influenced too much. My TikTok of the weekend, I was annoyed and I almost was going to do a TikTok rant about it. You know Mj Gray?

Speaker 2:
[90:10] No.

Speaker 1:
[90:11] Do you know Wizard Liz?

Speaker 2:
[90:13] Was she the one that got cheated on?

Speaker 1:
[90:15] Yeah. She was the one that made her living or her platform, basically telling girls know your worth and men ain't ****. Anyways, then obviously that whole thing happened and her man made her look like a clown. Well, Mj Gray is another... Is grifter a bad word because everyone calls her a grifter.

Speaker 2:
[90:31] Yeah. That means you're just like not following your actual beliefs or morals. You're just going to make whatever the money is basically.

Speaker 1:
[90:37] She's the grifter then because she is very pretty. They're all pretty girls. They're all pretty girls. But their whole thing is like, oh, I actually had no idea who this was prior to this weekend. But then my whole TikTok was this. And I was like, oh, I fell down the rabbit hole of it. And the whole, you know, she's really pretty. The whole thing is like anyone who gets married is stupid. Marriage is a scam. I've loved men. I will never trust a man. And if you do, you're dumb. And don't tell me there's good guys. Don't tell me, oh, for the money, whatever. They're like, no, they're lying to you. You're used to collateral. There's no such thing. Whatever. She's like, marriage is a scam. Motherhood is a scam. I never would want that. You guys are stupid. Like, that's her whole thing. Literally gets engaged this weekend after nine months of dating. And she's like, and then she said one time, she said, I have to know someone for at least three years to even like love them, whatever. She gets engaged over Paris. Now she's become like a lavish influencer. And now she's like shows like her Chanel and all that stuff. Basically, basically she's like a sugar baby because when her explanation video was like, guys, just know that I'm in a really good situation. So that's why, but then she goes, I still don't believe in the Institute of Marriage, even though I'm partaking in it. I was like, girl, give it up. Everyone was pissed. So anyways, she's like, yeah. So then someone's like, well, hey, we like listen to you or whatever. She goes, well, kind of like manage your expectations. She's like, well, don't look to me to make your decisions. Like make your own decisions. I got so mad at these and good thing is today because I was like, you know, just a bit because I was just like, don't tell women, oh, don't look to me for your life decisions when your whole thing is telling them like, oh no, I know everything. Like I know men and I know them and you can never trust a man. And then you're getting married and don't say like, oh, I'm in a good situation. Guys, trust me, this is a good situation. It's like, that's also what Wizard Liz said. And I look at him just like we can fool out of her. So it's just like, it's fine. Like everyone was saying, it's fine if you change your opinion on marriage and you meet the right one, right? Like to make your whole brand that and then to get pissed at the people who like followed you and be like, well, that's your fault. Like I never told you not to because people, you know, people like, look, especially because they're really pretty girls, like a Wizard Liz too, they're pretty, they're, you know, their standard is high and stuff. And then they get into this situation and they yell at their followers. They're like, what'd you guys expect? Like I got a good one. And then the guy, we're trying to be private, but meanwhile, like has him like, he's, he's like in the background, you hear his voice for everything. He's like, you never wanted to be a girlfriend. Now you're a wife. Like it sounds like he's 25. Like it just sounds so gross. Her whole thing is like just now being like a sugar baby is basically what she's like implying and stuff like that. And you're just like, let's stop listening to these influencers. I feel like just in general, Tik Tok influencers have become annoying as hell. And it's like these like millennials, honestly, everyone's annoying. Who isn't? Name one person who's not annoying.

Speaker 2:
[93:05] I guess Jen McAllister.

Speaker 1:
[93:06] Okay, who do I find not annoying? Nobody. I find everybody annoying these days. No, I'm gonna be positive. I am in a positive.

Speaker 2:
[93:15] Clear headed, positive, no negative thought.

Speaker 1:
[93:19] Well, now it is. Now that I got back to this, I was like, this, because seriously it is. Like how are you gonna just tell all these women this? And then like they follow you and then they're like a little upset. It's like a little different. And then someone's like trying to compare to body positivity. How are all the like body positive people are being skinny now? And it's like, they're like a little different, right? It's like a little different because obviously they're like who they want to be. They're so sure who they are, which body positivity people, including me, I feel like I've always been kind of upfront. Because if I could be 100 pounds, I could. But clearly, mentally, I'm not there yet. So it's just like, that's a little bit different. And you're living in the body that you have to live in. This is like, you're choosing to spew this propaganda, but then meanwhile, you're engaged now because you have a big rock and you're in Paris and stuff like that. Anyways, unfollow all these people. I was so, I was annoyed. I honestly just feel like maybe the rage weight of it all too. Maybe people are just trying to piss people off or something. I don't know. I was just like, she, I don't know where Wizard Liz is. She had the baby with the guy that made her look like a clown and just like, yeah. They got married so quickly. That's the other thing. They always say, don't wait two to three years before you even like give a guy like sex or something like that. It's like, y'all are getting married in nine months. Which is like fine or engaged, I guess. I guess some people have said that too. Like she's just engaged, guys. She's not married, but to also be like in the same breath of your proposal. She's like so giddy, so happy. She goes, I still don't believe in this due to marriage. So it's just because I'm more protected and it doesn't mean I believe in it. It's like, yeah. Like, are you stupid? Yes. That's the answer.

Speaker 2:
[94:41] It gives me the same feeling of like when you told me about The Mormon Wise for the first time, where I'm like so upset and I have no idea who anyone is.

Speaker 1:
[94:49] I was like, because I was just seeing all the old clips of her and it was pissing me off because it was just so high and mighty. That's like, oh, my God, you're stupid. The marriage only benefits the man. And in that case, I would agree with you. If you're in a marriage that only benefits the man, if you're like serving him and doing it, yeah, no, don't do that. But damn, find someone who elevates your life. Find someone who is just Moses, really. He just does everything. He takes care of so much. I was watching another influencer named Abby. Abby and Josh know them. She's really tall, he's short. That's the only way I can describe him because that's how they describe themselves. She's always so tall and he's so short. And she was saying all the stuff that he does, that he cooks every meal and does all the dishes. And then people are like, well, what do you do? And then she's like, well, I help him manage his anxiety. It's so funny, I learned so much about him last week, yesterday too. He has a fear of elevators. So she'll call ahead of time and be like, how do we take the stairs? They haven't taken an elevator since they've been together for 10 years or he has anxiety about flying. So she drives 18 hours down to Disney World. She has like, yeah, I help him with all of this stuff or whatever. It's like people really are just, they're mad if the guy does everything, they're mad. They always say that with us too. They're like, what does Trisha do? They're like, well, it doesn't matter. None of your business what I do. I also can just exist. Maybe I just got lucky, God's chosen one, that I have Moses just here for me all the time. Just, you don't know. Maybe I do something, maybe I don't. Who cares? Moses doesn't care. I just chill him through life sometimes. Do you ever care that I lay in bed a lot?

Speaker 3:
[96:11] No. Do you remember that one we saw where it says that when your wife is laying in bed or on the sofa, it's when she attracts all the wealth and the house.

Speaker 1:
[96:21] I said that to you. I said it to Moses all the time. It's like, don't call your wife lazy. Not that he does, but it's like never think your life is lazy when she's laying on the bed or sofa. She's attracting the abundance, the wealth, the good energy, she's attracting everything you need in life.

Speaker 2:
[96:35] Because you're on your finstile.

Speaker 1:
[96:39] Well, now I see so many of these, so now they all are coming to me. And I'm like, monks are saying it.

Speaker 2:
[96:45] Monks?

Speaker 1:
[96:45] Yes. Why it was like a monk or something that was saying it. And he's like, I probably sent you three. And he was just like, yeah, it's like a monk. And he's just like, no, that woman, if she's laying still, she's needing that energy, that recharge for your life. And I was like, that's what I'm doing. I'm recharging.

Speaker 2:
[96:57] Was it a real monk or AI monk?

Speaker 1:
[96:58] It might be AI, now that I think about it, because I do fall for them. But I loved it. And I felt real and I felt seen. And I feel that's true. I really do feel like I've come into my, into our energy. Our whole family energy has just really uplifted since I've really been pregnant, which means I was resting a lot. So I still take that same mentality and just love to take a rest.

Speaker 3:
[97:19] But when I, for example, when I look at the kids, to me, it looks like this miracle of nature or just like the impossible thing that you've done. Like I always see that. The last three years, it was just been like back to back that.

Speaker 1:
[97:34] Is that why you do so much for me?

Speaker 3:
[97:36] But I always say I would do it even if we had no kids. But all I'm saying is like you do. That's what I'm saying. Like you did so much even in that, and they're all healthy and great and happy. So it's like, you know, that's huge. That's not a small thing.

Speaker 1:
[97:51] I got a lot of good karma points for that then. How much longer does it last you think? Because you really have, I feel like since I've been pregnant, you've done way more. You've always done a lot for me. But it's like, once we got married, you did more. Once I got pregnant.

Speaker 3:
[98:02] But it's not, it's more because there's more to do. You know what I mean? Like I do, like you raised the occasion. It's not like I wouldn't do as much if it wasn't pregnancy. There was a lot to do. I would still do a lot.

Speaker 1:
[98:14] And I do nothing.

Speaker 3:
[98:16] That's not true.

Speaker 1:
[98:17] What do I do?

Speaker 3:
[98:19] You work all the time, first of all.

Speaker 1:
[98:21] I do love it. Monday through Wednesday. That's my hustle. I was thinking about that today.

Speaker 3:
[98:23] She always says that, but that's not true.

Speaker 2:
[98:25] She works all the time.

Speaker 3:
[98:27] She works on the weekends. She works and work in some work trips. You work 24-7.

Speaker 1:
[98:33] I was editing our Patreon vlog. I felt very work mode. I was like, wow, look at me. I even said it to all the comments, like, love this. But I know Jimmy's scary music would have been so good in this. I was like, okay. Trying to give you guys the vlog. And we did our Not Love Line. We really are the Patreon beat this past week. All right. I do do a lot, but I don't need to break. Break for Moses because he does the most. My dad always says that too. My dad thinks I do nothing. He always like, in just would be like, oh, are you calling the plumbers? Are you doing? I'm like, dad, I actually do a lot. Like I think he thinks I do absolutely nothing that Moses does everything for me. But I do a lot. I do do organizing. I call and make the dentist appointments.

Speaker 3:
[99:09] But also like, like, you know, it's the, I don't know, like the soul of the family lies with her. Because it's like when we do photo shoots for the family for holidays, when you go on holiday trips, when you do things like you're the one that plans that and traditions and holidays and everything that has meaning. So you do all that.

Speaker 1:
[99:29] Birthdays. And I think me and Elvis are going to have a joint. I mean, it's going to be Elvis' birthday. But because my birthday also got canceled the week of May 8th, 5th, May 5th through the 10th. My dad's birthday, father's, or my dad's birthday is on mother's day. And it's also on my euphoria day. And it's also a day that I can't, I can't, I have to, I'm gone. I'm like, damn, that week really just got away from us. So Cinco de Mayo I'm missing. Netflix, Ojo de Cinco, which is my birthday. And then Nueve de Cinco, which was in Dio. And then-

Speaker 2:
[99:58] May the fourth be with you.

Speaker 1:
[99:59] May the fourth. I'm missing that day too. I'll be here for May 1st. I'll be here for May Day. We'll bring May baskets for each other. I'll be here for that. Damn. Yeah, I mean, I'm missing all. Mother's Day, my dad's birthday. Damn. Well, I do. Thank you for that. Yeah, anyways, but I will, I'm missing, I'm technically missing Elvis's birthday because I'll be in England, but I'm going to plan a birthday for her. Does anyone care out there? Oh my God, we have so much time to go. Why did I think we were ending? Have we talked too much? This is the problem with doing a podcast in the morning is like, talked out.

Speaker 2:
[100:41] Yeah, T and we still got much more to go. Well, I mean, maybe this will get you talking, Zayn Malik, potentially bisexual.

Speaker 1:
[100:49] I love that. Lesbian Awareness Week. What did he say?

Speaker 2:
[100:54] OK, well, he has a new song out called Take Turns. And in the song, he kind of describes sexual relations with both men and women. And he did an interview with Zach Sang, which I did not know Zayn and Zach Sang go like really far back, but they did like, I guess anytime Zayn releases something, he's going to Zach Sang, and they did like a weird photo. It almost looked like a couple's photo shoot the way it does. They were like all dressed up on a hotel balcony in black and white.

Speaker 1:
[101:21] Well, they are. Are they both bisexual kings, I think, right?

Speaker 2:
[101:24] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[101:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[101:26] But anyway, Zayn has never confirmed his sexuality even after the song. Zach Sang brings up the song Taking Turns with Zayn. It's kind of giving another Benson Boone moment, like what you're talking about.

Speaker 1:
[101:39] I love that.

Speaker 2:
[101:40] Because you know how Zach Sang gets. He gets very like into the artistry of it all. And meanwhile, some things are just like the song is about being horny, you know?

Speaker 1:
[101:48] So is that what it's about to you?

Speaker 2:
[101:50] Zach brought up, he's like, it's a very sexy song. And Zayn laughs like, yeah, what do you think it's about? And of course, Zach Sang, is it about like a toxic relationship? Like, and Zayn starts laughing. He's like, no, it's it's not about that. He goes, oh, that's what I took away from it. And it's like, OK, so we had Zayn literally teed you up to ask him about sucking.

Speaker 1:
[102:12] Oh my God. What is it about? Have you listened to it?

Speaker 2:
[102:15] I looked at the lyrics and the lyrics, it talks about doing stuff to men and doing stuff to women.

Speaker 1:
[102:20] Oh, so literally, bye.

Speaker 2:
[102:22] Yeah. You're by. And Zayn was literally giggling, so ready to spill the bisexual tea.

Speaker 1:
[102:36] And Zach was just like, moving on.

Speaker 2:
[102:38] Yeah, I think Alex Cooper, at least, would have given, say what you want about the girl. I think she would have asked about something.

Speaker 1:
[102:44] No big deal.

Speaker 2:
[102:45] You think? I'll call her daddy. She asked, she asked Gwen and Paltrow who's better in bed, Brad or whoever else. That's true. I think she would ask.

Speaker 1:
[102:52] Hate the follow up question, though.

Speaker 2:
[102:53] That's true, but I think she would, I think the gay would have had big bold letters on the card. Asking about time and place, you know what I mean? Every one of the action fan had the fans, girls especially, for some reason, girls love a bisexual boy, but everyone thought, people thought maybe Harry bisexual, maybe Louie bisexual.

Speaker 1:
[103:16] Probably, probably all of them.

Speaker 2:
[103:19] At this point, I kind of think Harry is performatively queer, where he kind of plays into it a little bit, but isn't really- Birthday dinner.

Speaker 1:
[103:27] Really?

Speaker 2:
[103:28] But I think now I'm looking at Zayn like, oh, you were the one who was really about it, and Harry's about it just to be giggly and fun.

Speaker 1:
[103:33] Oh, I feel like Harry, I feel like he's about it.

Speaker 2:
[103:37] I thought so, but he never put his money where his mouth was, literally.

Speaker 1:
[103:41] Literally, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[103:42] Yeah, so now I think it's all up to Zayn to really carry the bisexual flag.

Speaker 1:
[103:46] And who was worried about it? Someone in the group was worried about it. I saw somewhere, Lewis, someone who is someone that like maybe he's like worried he's going to out him too.

Speaker 2:
[103:54] Oh, well, maybe thinking of Louis and Zayn got into a fight when they were filming a Netflix documentary.

Speaker 1:
[104:01] Maybe that was it.

Speaker 2:
[104:02] Yeah. So this story kind of came out and people thought it was maybe trying to deflect from the other big headline, which was the story about why their documentary got canceled for Netflix. It was a three part project that was supposed to follow the pair as they reconnect post One Direction on a road trip around America. But the son reported that the show was scrapped after allegedly Zayn and Louis got into a fight, where Zayn allegedly punched Louis in the face.

Speaker 1:
[104:31] Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:
[104:32] I know and no reporter knows exactly what the fight was about, but the son is claiming that Zayn made a remark about Louis' mother who died in 2016 after battling leukemia. And then they got really heated, Louis got really upset, and Zayn ended up punching him in the face allegedly.

Speaker 1:
[104:57] What do you mean, allegedly? There was no one that saw it?

Speaker 2:
[104:59] Well, there's no proof of the actual physical altercation, but...

Speaker 1:
[105:03] Well, not everyone's Dakota. They don't have that phone out ready to go. You know what I mean? But still, a fight maybe happened.

Speaker 2:
[105:09] And it did get scrapped. I remember when they announced it, and then nothing came up after that. It was just the headline. They were announcing a project, nothing came up after that. Louis and his sisters unfollowed Zayn on Instagram. Zayn still follows Louis. And the director also made a comment about the documentary, about the project getting scrapped once this headline came out. She posted it to her Instagram story, sharing the sons' cover and said, there goes the last year of work, sad face. So the director kind of confirms that the sons' reporting is kind of accurate.

Speaker 1:
[105:50] How do you think they just still put something out? Put together what they had, footage?

Speaker 2:
[105:54] I guess they didn't get very far into filming, because six months ago is when the altercation happened, and they announced the project a little bit before that. It was just last year. So I don't think they got much done, at least for the full project. And Netflix was just like, yeah, let's just...

Speaker 1:
[106:11] Cut it. Is Zayn doing press right now?

Speaker 2:
[106:13] Zayn is. He just released.

Speaker 1:
[106:15] Well, we should talk to Trisha.

Speaker 2:
[106:17] Oh, yeah, let's do Zayn.

Speaker 1:
[106:17] I think that's a mutual one we can agree upon.

Speaker 2:
[106:19] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[106:20] I don't know much about him, but I would like to know more about him if he's bi.

Speaker 2:
[106:24] That's all I want to know.

Speaker 1:
[106:25] Yeah, I need to know. That's so interesting to me. I need to know. More people need to know. There's a bi erasure happening right now, and I think people need to know, am I bi? How do I know I'm bi? I think we need... I'm on.

Speaker 2:
[106:39] Yeah, see.

Speaker 1:
[106:39] If you want to know what Zach's saying, I know they're friends. But we're like the same caliber, right?

Speaker 2:
[106:44] I would think so.

Speaker 1:
[106:45] We're both theater tours, me and Zach Sang. I feel like I think... Come on.

Speaker 2:
[106:49] Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1:
[106:50] Let's reach out. I know. I saw that Jack Black was on the Bad Friends podcast. I reached out to Trish. I'm like, can we get Jack Black on? Like, how do all these people got all these great guests?

Speaker 2:
[106:57] It's always like a friend of a friend situation, though.

Speaker 1:
[107:00] Yeah, I guess they did have Zach Gaffer on their podcast.

Speaker 2:
[107:01] Yeah. Oh.

Speaker 1:
[107:02] I know. They only get good ones. We need more friends.

Speaker 2:
[107:07] That's a problem for us.

Speaker 1:
[107:08] Zach Sang was my friend. I could have asked. We ruined it.

Speaker 2:
[107:11] Damn true. That's true.

Speaker 1:
[107:15] So sorry, Zach Sang. My apologies.

Speaker 2:
[107:18] Harry Daniels is kind of our only hope, but he's afraid to ask anyone for anything.

Speaker 1:
[107:21] Yeah. He's like, I'm scared to ask guests.

Speaker 2:
[107:23] I'm like, yeah, my best friends are Cat's Eye, but I can't ask them. I'm like, okay. Your best friend, Emma Roberts, who loves you came.

Speaker 1:
[107:29] Yeah. You're actually cool with these people. I know. It's so hard. I like Zayn, I think. I think he might be my favorite from One Direction. Minus the punching thing.

Speaker 2:
[107:40] Yeah. Oh yeah, true, Dan.

Speaker 1:
[107:41] If it happened.

Speaker 2:
[107:42] Yeah, allegedly. Who would my favorite be? I think Harry kind of lost me post this kiss, kiss all the time, disco occasionally.

Speaker 1:
[107:54] That's the name of the album?

Speaker 2:
[107:54] I think that's the name of the album.

Speaker 1:
[107:56] Horrible name.

Speaker 2:
[107:57] I was heated for the Harry comeback, but it kind of came on really quick. I'm so sorry. I know people still write for the album. It did kind of lose me. I apologize. So now, maybe Niall.

Speaker 1:
[108:06] Oh, from The Voice? I like him.

Speaker 2:
[108:08] Yeah, from The Voice. Yeah, he just released a new album, too. And he did a little pop-up event at a coffee shop. And he was really sweet. He was doing the barista thing, because his song's about getting coffee with somebody.

Speaker 1:
[108:23] Oh, OK.

Speaker 2:
[108:23] And then he had a fan event, too. And I think it was on TikTok. It went viral, because he invited specific fans. And one of the fans, she put her business hat on, and she was networking. She was not in the line to go chit chat with Niall. She went to his team and had her resume. She was like, this is why I think you should hire. Like she pitched herself, and I was like, work. And there was a TikTok of Niall looking over his shoulder, seeing her talk to his team, and he giggled. He thought it was fierce.

Speaker 1:
[108:49] Okay. What did we know? Maybe it was like the Deborah Vance of it all, where she goes to Ava, and she's like not a fan. She's a hater. She's wanted her job.

Speaker 2:
[108:56] I think she was upfront about being a Niall Stan, but wanting a job at the record label. It kind of gives me Maddie and Euphoria going up to that agent at brunch or whatever, being like, my name is Maddie. You need to hire me. She picks up her phone, like, hello, whatever that lady's name, desk speaking. Like it's kind of giving that Maddie tease. It's giving Maddie tease.

Speaker 1:
[109:18] Yeah, you got to shoot your shot. Why not?

Speaker 2:
[109:20] I respect the people that do. I could never be me because I'm too afraid, but.

Speaker 1:
[109:25] I don't know. Yeah, I same. I don't think I could ever, yeah, like just make her hire me. I don't know. Maybe you could put yourself out there. You could, I feel like you could do that.

Speaker 2:
[109:34] I like doing it on the one-off, like saying something here and hoping someone hears it one day versus like actually going to the person who can be the path forward and be like, hi, you know.

Speaker 1:
[109:46] Well, you miss a hundred of the shots you take, yeah. What is that? Who said that?

Speaker 2:
[109:53] Probably those girls trying to get to Coachella by saying they don't have a ticket or whatever.

Speaker 1:
[109:57] Oh, who was that?

Speaker 2:
[109:58] Every person on Coachella was like, oh, I got canceled, oh, I don't have a ticket. Like they all ended up going, so I guess they got the last laugh there.

Speaker 1:
[110:05] How's Bram Flake's doing?

Speaker 2:
[110:07] You know, I think everyone has moved on, at least from what I've seen. I feel like now people are hating on James Charles, I would assume. This is not pop culture related, but it is girl boss related. There was an Uber Eats driver that went viral because when she would post a little delivery, proof of delivery photos, she included her feet in them, and she would get higher tips.

Speaker 1:
[110:30] And I was like, that's crazy. Is that real?

Speaker 2:
[110:33] Yeah, I think she had the proof. I mean, she had the receipts of her dogs in the photo.

Speaker 1:
[110:40] Wow. And some people just gave her more because she did the feet.

Speaker 2:
[110:43] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[110:44] I wouldn't even notice. I don't even think I know.

Speaker 2:
[110:46] I never look at the photo.

Speaker 1:
[110:47] They always take a photo?

Speaker 2:
[110:48] They do.

Speaker 1:
[110:50] I don't think they ever take a photo of ours. Do they?

Speaker 3:
[110:53] Yeah, usually there's a photo. Well, a lot of times we'll take it from them, but if they place it, they'll take a photo.

Speaker 2:
[111:00] What are we? An hour 48. I'm so sorry. Almost made it. I know because Shane Dawson1 always does that. Speaking of Millennial Grunge, he always does the little photo. He'll post it to his Instagram story. When the Uber post mate photographs his delivery and he always does his quirky little like, oh, he's standing with his toes pointed at him and he's like with his ***. I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[111:22] You were giving Shane.

Speaker 2:
[111:24] It's like, and then he posts it to his story. I'm like, we don't need to see it. You know what I mean? We know. Yeah, we get it.

Speaker 1:
[111:33] Is he still eating his ***?

Speaker 2:
[111:34] He's still eating the same old things.

Speaker 1:
[111:36] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[111:36] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[111:37] I guess he's skinny legend now, so he probably wants to draw how skinny he is next to the bag. I probably would do that too if I was lost a bunch of weight. Look how tiny I am next to this. And then he'll just point my legs in.

Speaker 2:
[111:50] Do the photo before they put it on the ground.

Speaker 1:
[111:52] I've never had anyone take my photo. That's so weird.

Speaker 2:
[111:54] Darian yesterday, he was like, don't check the photo on Postmates. And I was like, why? Then I went to go look. It was he like full on pose. He's like, oh, I was like, why did you like smile and everything? He's like, well, I wanted it. I didn't want it to look like a mug shot.

Speaker 1:
[112:08] That's so funny. I would, because I'm like, I don't want them to put that picture invasive, that they can picture of you. Like, where is that photo going to end up?

Speaker 2:
[112:15] True. And he's in his jammies and everything. And he's like smiling with his.

Speaker 1:
[112:19] So you don't leave it. Shane too, I'm surprised he grabs it. I'm like, leave that.

Speaker 2:
[112:23] I always do that too. I'm like, just leave it at the doorstep. But yesterday they called that they couldn't get in the building. So Darian ran to go to the front door, but he already came in. He was able to get in. So then they met in the hallway. Yeah. He had the photo. It was really awkward.

Speaker 1:
[112:38] Yeah. When I saw that big apartment, that plot. So, oh my God, that was like, to find a postmate in there was so hard. It was like impossible. Like, I want to meet you, but then we would like miss each other. And then there would be no reception. People would be locked out of the staircases. It's a lot to find. Give them good tips, you guys, because it's not an easy job.

Speaker 2:
[112:54] Yeah. Especially if they're showing their feet and you're into that kind of thing.

Speaker 1:
[112:57] Yeah. It's pretty smart, I guess.

Speaker 2:
[112:59] It is smart. She said that she would get an extra like 20 to $50 tips. Wow. On some of her orders. And she said it would be like the tips that comes in after the drop off. You know, you can add a little.

Speaker 1:
[113:13] So she knew from the picture.

Speaker 2:
[113:14] Yeah. It was a direct correlation.

Speaker 1:
[113:17] Good for those guys or whoever is doing that.

Speaker 2:
[113:19] I got an email from someone asking. It was like they wrote it very serious. I haven't responded yet. But maybe I will because they were like, Hi Oscar, I am acquiring to know how much you would charge for a photo of your feet. And it was like so specific. And gave me Instagram handle and everything. It's like, this is real. Like, here's my Instagram blah, blah, blah. I just really want to see your souls. And I was like, I didn't reply yet. And I'm like, what would the rate be? I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[113:44] What are you thinking?

Speaker 2:
[113:45] I don't know. I don't think I have great, like, I have bad hands from lifting. Like, I'm very callous hands and also very callous feet. So maybe I would like put in vest a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[113:54] Maybe that's what they want to see.

Speaker 2:
[113:56] True.

Speaker 1:
[113:56] Don't get them too excited here. You're describing your feet to them. It's like, ooh, I like that. How do you have callous feet? Do you barefoot a lot?

Speaker 2:
[114:05] I think just from a lot of cardio. That's the only thing I think of. Yeah. Cause I'm actually never barefoot. I hate being barefoot.

Speaker 1:
[114:10] Oh, that's right. I love it.

Speaker 2:
[114:12] I hate it. It's my least favorite thing in the world.

Speaker 1:
[114:13] You get pedicures?

Speaker 2:
[114:15] No, never.

Speaker 1:
[114:16] You get really callous feet. Cause I'll get them off at the...

Speaker 2:
[114:19] I'll do it myself, but not like the intensive thing, which I probably should.

Speaker 1:
[114:23] Yeah. Just like once a year, at least.

Speaker 2:
[114:25] Just, yeah. I don't know if the rate goes up or down with that though. So I guess...

Speaker 1:
[114:28] Well, email them back and find out.

Speaker 2:
[114:29] Yeah. Enquire.

Speaker 1:
[114:31] See, like, how's this going?

Speaker 2:
[114:32] Because we might be going that direct. Like furniture is expensive, let's say that. So whatever it takes.

Speaker 1:
[114:39] No, our house is still not furnished. We're still working on Beetlejuice cabinets because even like years ago, we couldn't afford it and then we could afford it and then it still like takes. It's just it's so expensive. Everything that construction is going on for 500 years.

Speaker 2:
[114:50] It really has been.

Speaker 1:
[114:51] Oh, my God. So it's like Thanksgiving and I'm like, OK, it's so expensive.

Speaker 2:
[114:58] I'm like, that kills me.

Speaker 1:
[115:00] It feels like it's moving today. It feels like there's more people out there. So it feels like it's moving. But also, I just have no idea what we're doing. I'm literally like, tell me your house. I was under construction. That's so bougie. And I was like, I don't know if that's bougie. I think I don't know what's happening out there. Something, everything, everything, and I was like, I'm doing everything today. I'm just like, I'm getting some chicken and waffles. Did you eat? You ate the smoked salmon? Is that what you ate?

Speaker 3:
[115:23] I had banana, some smoked salmon, because I was rushing. I didn't have time.

Speaker 1:
[115:26] You didn't eat anything?

Speaker 3:
[115:28] I ate those.

Speaker 1:
[115:29] Well, that's nothing. Like a warm meal?

Speaker 3:
[115:33] Not yet. There's no time.

Speaker 1:
[115:36] You can make time. He always says that. But you make time to eat.

Speaker 2:
[115:39] It's hard sometimes. Sometimes, I feel like I'll snack or do things in a rush and then not have time to really eat an actual meal until dinner time.

Speaker 1:
[115:51] They always need to make time for that. People are so silly when they say, I forgot to eat. I didn't have time to eat. Well, you make 10 minutes to eat.

Speaker 3:
[115:58] I did. Then I got a banana and smoked salmon. That's what the 10 minutes will give you.

Speaker 1:
[116:03] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[116:04] I feel like I can't escape this episode without an Alex V. Alex update.

Speaker 1:
[116:10] Oh. Are people succeeded for this?

Speaker 2:
[116:12] I don't know. I'm standing up and walking away only because, Alex Earle, you let me down, girl. You had your one shot to be messy, to be a little interesting, to shake the table a little bit, and you didn't take it.

Speaker 1:
[116:25] Especially because she's been starting this whole thing. She's been really the one to be liking comments, being shady.

Speaker 2:
[116:30] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[116:31] It's like, well, now take it home. She's like, okay, on it. Where?

Speaker 2:
[116:35] Where? On what? Everyone else is doing the talking for you, and you're letting everyone else down. Everyone on Team Earl is also let down. Then the narrative switches of like, she's just above the drama, you guys. She doesn't need to stoop to Alex Cooper's level. She's so above it. No, she's not because she was reposting.

Speaker 1:
[116:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[116:50] If she could slam dunk, I think she would, but I don't think she has a slam dunk.

Speaker 1:
[116:55] I also heard the theory saving it for the reality show.

Speaker 2:
[116:58] Yes, I see that too.

Speaker 1:
[116:59] Yeah, because she filmed horizontal, so everyone's like, oh, they probably use that for the B-roll of the.

Speaker 2:
[117:04] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[117:04] Are people going to care once it comes out?

Speaker 2:
[117:09] It's not interesting enough to last a year, you know what I mean, until this comes out. Because again, I don't think there's any like bi-sister level like tea in there. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[117:18] Someone did say this is bi-sister for straight people.

Speaker 2:
[117:21] In straight and white, I guess, because it's also unseasoned. It's very unseasoned. There's no flavor here. It's all about money and maybe a little bit of politics. That's the most boring kind of beef to me. Money and politics is what everyone else is beefing over. So it's nothing new to the table.

Speaker 1:
[117:35] That is actually very true.

Speaker 2:
[117:36] Right?

Speaker 1:
[117:37] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[117:37] Because what everyone has come to the deduction of is that there was a bad business deal. They are very different on the political spectrum. And that in their early collaborations, specifically this drunk get ready with me, Alex Earle didn't like the way she came across and like Alex Cooper was a little bit too raunchy for her, which again goes back to like the different morals or whatever. So, okay. Like, it's not that interesting to me. It's not.

Speaker 1:
[118:04] Well, I guess I had her to, she should be better just doing a whole hour dissertation, interviewing 17 people about this. He's got the time. I was wondering what he does. Like, how does he survive? How do you interview 17 people? I guess that's his job. Did he get sponsored in that time? I don't know. I think we like people better. I don't know. I know he was canceled. I think we like him. I think he's good.

Speaker 2:
[118:24] He's always nice to me. Yeah. I have no idea what the update is.

Speaker 1:
[118:27] But his research is like, I think I commented, I was like, how do you know all this? Because like, how are you getting all this? Like, he just, how do you know all this information of people that you don't know?

Speaker 2:
[118:37] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[118:38] People are just giving you this over the phone, willy-nilly?

Speaker 2:
[118:40] I guess so. He says he spoke to 17 people who had sourced information about the dynamic between Alex Cooper and Alex Earle.

Speaker 1:
[118:50] Well, it sounds like what I had heard. Alex Cooper's deal with Spotify, the $60 million deal was about to be up. So she was about to level up to the, what was it? $125 million from, who was it?

Speaker 2:
[119:01] Was it serious?

Speaker 1:
[119:02] Maybe serious. But like, in order to get that deal, she needed more on the Unwelcome Network than just Call Her Daddy. And then when she got Alex Earle, she gave her $1.2 million a year and then got her $125 million, which I don't think she gets all the $125 million. That's what I heard. I don't know. I think bottom line is true. It's just like, Alex Earle was too big for it. Like anyone else would be probably thrilled. Probably Grace O'Malley, like 1.2 million. She'd be like, yeah, I love it. But Alex Earle was kind of already as big or getting up on the rise or whatever. Alex Cooper saw it. She's like, I'm going to profit off this. It's just like business. But yeah, it's all, as you say, unseasoned. You know what I mean? It's all like giving chicken cutlet raw.

Speaker 2:
[119:40] These are problems that, guess what? Every normie in America has to deal with, like getting screwed over in the business and the corporate world, getting knocked off the corporate ladder, someone using your ideas and making money off of them and screwing you over. Girl, join the rest of us, mama.

Speaker 1:
[119:56] I know over there Mar-a-Lago, maybe you don't have to deal with that, but guess what? Over here in the suburbs, we're dealing with the same issues. I'm making, back to Meghan Trainor. Actually, maybe this is where she got canceled. When I had an interview for Meghan Trainor, to her social media, I had to make a whole deck. For Meghan Trainor, I had a whole idea, creative strategy.

Speaker 2:
[120:14] I know this.

Speaker 1:
[120:15] Yes, I had it all themed, like aesthetic. I'm like, okay, the vibe is gonna be pink. This was pre-era colors too.

Speaker 2:
[120:22] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[120:22] I was really hit with the curve. I'm like, this is the vibe I see for her. I think more of a pink color story. I made a fake Instagram feed of what it will look like. Never got a call back, but guess what? Her Instagram started being pink. And I'm like, damn, that's business for ya. You know what I mean? That's just how it works. So Alex Earle, guess what? We're still rich, and the rest of us, we're not as lucky, you know? I was still living in that apartment in North Hollywood, not making any money.

Speaker 2:
[120:45] And they took that deck.

Speaker 1:
[120:46] Yeah, they took the deck and ran.

Speaker 2:
[120:48] That is so, so interesting, gosh. Yeah, because right when we closed, closed, right when we finished filming last week, it was like the Brianne Chicken Fry came in it, and then Alex Cooper was responding. And I think we better say this to someone else, too. It's like, what a weird, like, seriously no shade to Brianne Chicken Fry at all, obviously, like we beef with her, whatever. But it's like, that's a weird person for Alex Cooper's level to beef with, because she's so, like, influential, gets all the biggest people, she's interviewing Kamala Harris. It's like, why did she care what, like, Brianna Chicken Fry inserted herself with? Because it was just kind of like, I don't know, it just seems not on the same level at all.

Speaker 1:
[121:23] I know. It's all like, kind of weird to me. Again, I think it's because with Alex Cooper, it was more about the brand, like her brand started taking, like, reputational hits as far as not being, as far as being like a little bit predatory when it comes to doing bookings or whatever. I think at the end of the day, whether it's Alex Cooper, her husband or whatever, like, yeah, she's a little bit vicious when it comes to business or like very much like about the bottom line. But that's just what people are like. That's just the real world, honey. Like, that's what, again, what everyone else has to deal with. So like, why am I going to get the tiniest violin to play for you? Because you only made like 1.2 million instead of like, what, you wanted like 20? Because, okay, like, that, I think, again, that's why she can't come and make the storytime TikTok of like, how she was wrong about Alex Cooper, because no one's going to care.

Speaker 2:
[122:12] Zero-epathy. She was on, she wasn't, Sophie with an F was on, Alexa, Alexa Niers, do you remember her? She was like on her podcast and she's like, so yeah, I was like, and why did I get cancelled? What, for like wanting more money, for like not wanting to work for a bar stool? And she, it's just like not fair. She's like, us girls just get cancelled. It's just like not fair. She's like, like you, I'm sure you didn't get to deserve to be cancelled. And Alex and I was like, well, I robbed her in a Bloom's house. I think she had no idea who she was. So it was so funny. And like sometimes people deserve, but then all the comments were literally like, so if you had it with an F didn't get cancelled. She just like, yeah, she just like quit. Like she just quit the thing. No one was canceling her for like not wanting to like continue. And then there's Dave T by the C has a merch now for it. And then Brianna is pissed at him. Cause she's like, I told him that in confidence. And Dave just wanted to know the T and he said all, I don't even know who they're talking about. Amanda West, I don't know who any of these people are. But she, I told him that in confidence and he said it out loud. Yeah, it's kind of to me, I'm kind of like over it. Be better had me like intrigued for a minute. I was kind of like, well, let's see everyone you talk to. Cuz then, Alex Earle.

Speaker 1:
[123:12] Yeah, Ashton with an I. Girls, that's how I know this family's a little, every name they're swapping out a vowel with an I. I'm like, this isn't like Wheel of Fortune. It's like, come on, it's Alex with an E, it's Ashton with an O. Like, let's be serious. Let's get serious challenge. I don't know, I don't really trust the patriarch of the Earle family. He's a little-

Speaker 2:
[123:32] Well, yeah, I think that's what it all comes down to. He's a little questionable too. Yeah, so I think-

Speaker 1:
[123:37] Morally, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[123:37] Yeah, well, are you seated for the reality show?

Speaker 1:
[123:40] No, absolutely not. I mean, this does, I'm sure people are very into Alex Earle and that's okay. I'm not gonna yuck anyone's yawn, but I'm like, this was your one chance. She did a little pap walk after, people were still seated. My favorite trend actually, this was my TikTok, was everyone putting themselves in different situations. This one girl put herself with the old man filter, so her face looked all old and wrinkly. It was like, Alex Earle, I'm an old man. This is my dying wish. Tell us about Alex Cooper. And this other girl put headphones in her nose, she was on oxygen and she had the little heartbeat behind her. She was on a hospital bed and she's like, Alex Earle, I'm on my deathbed, I'm very ill. Please tell me what Alex Cooper did. Girl, we were all begging, we're all so seated. And you threw it away.

Speaker 2:
[124:27] She did a pole dancing video. She's like, I'm just gonna do a little pole dance.

Speaker 1:
[124:31] Okay, I do need to know about this though, because she posted a video on a pole and then she wrote, sorry, I've been filming this week or whatever, but Alex Cooper's pinned TikTok is, just saw a girl say idolizing Trump is like thinking the stripper actually likes you and it's from October 2025, but it's her pinned TikTok. So I need to know when was it pinned? Was it pinned after Alex or Alix Earle was on the bed?

Speaker 2:
[124:58] Obviously, obviously. Because why would it? I mean, that's so random, why else would it be pinned?

Speaker 1:
[125:04] That is, I'm sorry, Alex Cooper is taking it from me. I feel like it's the unpopular side, but she's kind of taking it from me.

Speaker 2:
[125:11] I agree, I feel like at this point, like everyone's, all these girls are rich, no one feels sorry for anybody in this situation. And it's just like, who's the more entertaining? Who's going to give us the messy? Who's going to give us the tea? It's why I got back on the day for no drain. I'm always giving us tea, you know what I mean? I want the tea and I love that Alex Cooper is giving it because she doesn't need to, but she is.

Speaker 1:
[125:28] And it's like, again, if you're going to be about it, be about it. Like if you're going to be shady and repost and sub tweet or whatever, step up to the plate when you're called. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[125:38] Nick Viall called Alex Cooper a hypocrite because he's like, isn't she doing the exact same thing that she's accusing Alix Earle of doing? He's like, why don't you just say it then?

Speaker 1:
[125:46] Because she doesn't know. That's what she's asking. She's like, what?

Speaker 2:
[125:49] You don't think Alex Cooper knows the reason?

Speaker 1:
[125:51] I don't think she knows the exact reason. I think maybe it's like the business thing or whatever. But if Alix Earle is going on about how she's a vulture, she's like the TMZ, she's preying on all these women, what exactly is your issue?

Speaker 2:
[126:03] You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She seems like a lot of beef.

Speaker 1:
[126:06] Yeah, so it's been a year of the vague posting. I'm like, girl, what exactly is your problem? Because honestly, I don't even know. I thought we were good. I thought, yes, the business deal, I let you out with it. Whatever, you're doing great. You're the Carl's Jr., whatever. But you're vague posting to Helen Back. And I haven't been saying shit. I've been telling all the press that we're cool. But you're vague posting that I'm like the devil, that I'm GMZ, that I'm preying on women. So what is it?

Speaker 2:
[126:32] They need a book. She's waiting for the book to come out, Alex Earle.

Speaker 1:
[126:36] Or the reality show, I guess.

Speaker 2:
[126:37] Oh, yeah, that's right. Taylor Freaky Paul, I think, was saying she's writing a book now. She said she was waiting in the comments. She did her comeback yesterday. And then someone's like, oh, you should write a book. And she goes, oh, I got offered before. And I never thought it was time. And then she goes, da, da, da, now it's time. She might be waiting for the book.

Speaker 1:
[126:52] That's fair. I feel like Elise TFP has a real story to tell because I do think she also is a victim in this too. Alex Earle, I'm not quite, again, until new information comes out, maybe Alex Earle is gonna drop a bombshell and really gag me.

Speaker 2:
[127:04] No, never.

Speaker 1:
[127:05] And I'll be like, wow, Alex Cooper is the bi sister of it all, you know? But until then, I'm like...

Speaker 2:
[127:12] But I think one thing the bi sister taught us after we did the deep dive on tour in our Patreon, it was like, everyone just looked like a clown at the end of it. Everyone was like, everyone just stopped. Like, everyone was like, okay, team Tati, then wow, team Charles. And by like 2022, we're like, what are we doing with changes? And that's when you had the freak out, right? And it's just like, you all look silly. And Jeffrey weirdly had the best exit where he was like, so in the middle of all the drama and then just decides to be like, guys, no more drama. I'm not talking about this anymore.

Speaker 1:
[127:38] I'm not doing this anymore.

Speaker 2:
[127:40] Is that a title? I love it. I love when you're like, I love it. Truly, I love that when someone's so messy and they're like, actually, I'm above this now. And I'm like, period. I think it's just so funny because it's just such a way out of it, as you should.

Speaker 1:
[127:54] Even if Alex Earle at least did that and was like, you know what? I'm not gonna do it. You know what? At least she did something, but instead it's like on it. And then it's like, sorry, I've been so busy filming all week and here I am dancing on a stripper pole for cardio. Clearly you have the time. Clearly you have the time, I know you have the time. Let's be serious, challenge. I fear Alex Earle is a little unserious to me. And sorry, Ashton, I'm sure you're sweet. I don't mean to come for you for the I in your name, but it is a little ridiculous. I digress. I can't, I can't.

Speaker 2:
[128:26] Yeah, she's like, your sources are wrong. She said that would be better. And I was just like.

Speaker 1:
[128:29] Okay, then what's the truth? Okay, why don't you and your sister go make the TikTok and let us know what the truth is. But until then, I guess this is the information I have to go with. And right now, it's not looking that good for you. It's giving us nothing.

Speaker 2:
[128:43] Yeah, I'm kind of uninterested. That should be, and well, uninterested. Sophia with an F, now's your chance to make your own network. You, James Charles, whoever else comes along.

Speaker 1:
[128:56] No, I'm interested in that one. Kind of fierce. That's a good name. Yeah, I could get down to that.

Speaker 2:
[129:01] I would definitely put James on that.

Speaker 1:
[129:03] Yeah, the Earles, I'm so sorry. They're for somebody, I don't know. They're for somebody, I'm sure.

Speaker 2:
[129:08] They're pretty, well, I don't know the sister. I don't know what she does. I don't even know what she looks like.

Speaker 1:
[129:12] I'm sure she's pretty. Yeah, I'm sure she's pretty. Alex Earle, on Dancing with the Stars, she seems sweet. I was like, okay, she's a nice girl. I already knew in the background, I already knew the Trump connections. I already knew the Zayn allegations, not even allegations, beliefs.

Speaker 2:
[129:28] Beliefs.

Speaker 1:
[129:29] And the Gymshark lawsuit, I already knew that. But it seemed like everyone was moving past it, so I was like, okay, question mark. Maybe she changed. Yeah, I think her views, I think she just got quiet, which is like the smart thing to do, I guess.

Speaker 2:
[129:41] Right.

Speaker 1:
[129:43] But I think that's why she comes out about that. It all just gets brought back up. I already see the switch up too, where like after B Better's video, a lot of people who were like pro Alex Earle at first when they were covering it were like, I forgot about this stuff. I think I'm switching back to Alex Cooper, which is like tea. It's just like-

Speaker 2:
[129:59] The back and forth.

Speaker 1:
[130:00] It's just gonna, it's just a mess. It's like the best way to win, I guess, is just by, just say, just Alex Earle just say it. Just say like, I'm not doing this. I'm not gonna get down and dirty. Like I'm gonna bow out. At least do that.

Speaker 2:
[130:11] But instead she's like, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[130:13] She's just giving nothing instead.

Speaker 2:
[130:15] I'm just filming my reality show.

Speaker 1:
[130:17] So boring. It's so boring to me.

Speaker 2:
[130:19] Nick Vowell calling anyone a hypocrite though. I was like, can we not?

Speaker 1:
[130:23] Why don't you just worry about not being on the no fly list? You know what I mean? Like stop terrorizing random people on planes. Like let's focus on that. Yeah. Like come on.

Speaker 2:
[130:31] Oh my God. Damn.

Speaker 1:
[130:35] Well. People are going to be worked up for no rea... Actually, yeah, for good reason. They're just like...

Speaker 2:
[130:39] I know.

Speaker 1:
[130:40] I was reading for you. Give us something. Alex Cooper. Yes, I will go to the next Unwell Award Ceremony.

Speaker 2:
[130:47] I love it. Yeah. I have to be team Alex. I'm on the very biased side of this. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[130:53] I'm the most unbiased because I don't really care for either of them that much. Really? I'm not really seated for either of them, but from where I'm seeing both sides, I'm like one of us is serving a little bit of zest, and the other one is giving just dry.

Speaker 2:
[131:07] Did you know Alex Cooper's husband was married to- she was a mermaid.

Speaker 1:
[131:12] Yes, the girl from H2O slash The Vampire Diaries. Everyone keeps bringing that up on the team Alex Earle camp.

Speaker 2:
[131:17] Wait, why?

Speaker 1:
[131:18] Because everyone's like, Alex Earle's best friends with Claire Holt, and who was Claire Holt's ex-boyfriend or ex-husband, Alex Cooper's current-

Speaker 2:
[131:27] Are they best friends? I mean, that's kind of tea.

Speaker 1:
[131:29] Yeah, they're like BFFs or whatever. But I'm like, okay, then give us something. Okay, that connection in and of itself isn't enough to-

Speaker 2:
[131:37] That's so random.

Speaker 1:
[131:40] Famous, pretty white girls being friends, I feel like-

Speaker 2:
[131:42] Well, this guy also, Matt, also dated the Olsen twins, or one of the Olsen twins, Mary Kate or Ashley, out of high school. I mean, I'm sure, I think he's young too, but I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[131:52] It's like for rich, well-connected Hollywood people, it kind of makes sense to me. I mean, look at like Hailey and Justin, and then look at, you know, everyone's dated Justin, Justin dated Kourtney, he dated Kylie, he did it kind of-

Speaker 2:
[132:04] He dated Kourtney?

Speaker 1:
[132:06] Hooked up with Kourtney, hooked up with Kylie, hooked up with Kylie. Like everyone's kind of been passed around in this town.

Speaker 2:
[132:13] That sounds good. I know. I totally did say she like, when she was younger, she would have been bothered if like someone she dated slept with one of her sisters, but she wouldn't be bothered anymore by it.

Speaker 1:
[132:21] She's like, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[132:22] She's like, it's a small town.

Speaker 1:
[132:23] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[132:24] Not that small.

Speaker 1:
[132:24] So it doesn't really gag me that much.

Speaker 2:
[132:26] I could probably find someone that didn't sleep with-

Speaker 1:
[132:29] Even in gay world, gay just like regular, gay regular folk, LA, you know, they've all slept with each other, you know? That's true. Everyone is sleeping around. So yeah, especially in Hollywood. I'm like, yeah, that totally makes sense.

Speaker 2:
[132:42] We need that podcast. Who slept with who in WeHo?

Speaker 1:
[132:45] Oh, our collaboration with Chronically Online Girl. We have like all the photos on the wall.

Speaker 2:
[132:51] Oh, Chronically Online Girl. That's why that podcast, it was like, I'm like, isn't someone named Chronically Online?

Speaker 1:
[132:56] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[132:58] They should clap then.

Speaker 1:
[132:58] Well, I guess Nicole doesn't have a podcast. She does have a podcast, but it's not called Chronically Online Girl.

Speaker 2:
[133:02] Why not? What's it called? Why wouldn't you do the cross-branding?

Speaker 1:
[133:07] That's true.

Speaker 2:
[133:08] Because it's such a good name. What was her podcast called?

Speaker 1:
[133:11] She still has it, Talk Nasty to Me.

Speaker 2:
[133:15] That's interesting. It's just, okay.

Speaker 1:
[133:18] She sues Harry Daniels. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[133:20] I feel like she should have it be a cross-promotion of the two. But anyways, it's a good name. Both are good names. Well, that's it.

Speaker 1:
[133:29] I think so. It was a slow news week.

Speaker 2:
[133:32] It was a slow news week. Wasn't much happening. How about over there, water boy? I was going to call you water boy. That sounded weird. My water man.

Speaker 1:
[133:39] Just water is fine.

Speaker 2:
[133:41] Just water is. I like Twitter. Unfortunately, no one sees my tweets, so I feel like I don't do it enough.

Speaker 1:
[133:47] I see it. The little debbie.

Speaker 2:
[133:49] You're the little debbie. You're the Ava. You're the Ava in that situation. Yeah, you have the little fishes. That is true because she even says to her, she goes, yeah, I've neglected the little debbies when you came along. And I was like, oh, that's so cute. We could live together one day in Vegas.

Speaker 1:
[134:04] Oh, especially because we would have such a big place in Vegas, too.

Speaker 2:
[134:10] We'll all live there in a compound.

Speaker 1:
[134:12] That'd be fierce. I'd be so down for that. My pitch, I forgot to follow up with you. My pitch about me and the flop cast girls being you and Tana's opener in Vegas. I imagine that's with a little shell and a cane.

Speaker 2:
[134:23] Okay. Well, I guess I have to see proof of concept. I don't know if we have an opener, but it probably could work.

Speaker 1:
[134:29] I think Oscar and the flop cast girls, I think the three of us would be the greatest play of the opener.

Speaker 2:
[134:35] That seems about right for that show. It's going to be chaos there.

Speaker 1:
[134:39] A little tip of the hat, a little top.

Speaker 2:
[134:42] I like it. It's up to me, done and done. Talk to the creative director, which is Tana. We got to figure it out. We're figuring it out. All right. I want to talk more, but...

Speaker 1:
[134:56] Well, we have Patreon.

Speaker 2:
[134:57] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[134:57] I'm saving my real tea. I got a follow up to Alex Earle, but I really want to be messy about it on Patreon, where I can be unshackled.

Speaker 2:
[135:07] I love that.

Speaker 1:
[135:07] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[135:08] Unhinged. Un...

Speaker 1:
[135:11] Burdened.

Speaker 2:
[135:12] Unburdened. Thank you guys for being here. We talked a lot today, but the talking doesn't stop here. Go to patreon.com/justtrishtoday and see what else we have to talk about. Lots of good stuff. We'll see you guys there. Happy, happy Tuesday.

Speaker 1:
[135:29] Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 2:
[135:30] See you next Tuesday.

Speaker 1:
[135:31] Lesbians, this is your week, baby. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[135:33] Shout out to the lesbians. I just... I love you. You make the world go around. And they are my favorite people. I can name them all right now, but I... I have probably two handfuls of lesbians that I just love so much. And they're my everything, and they know it. Thank you for watching. We'll see you in the next one.

Speaker 1:
[135:52] Bye.