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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Went down to the farm the other day to do a little frost seeding. It's frost seeding time in Tennessee and to establish a clover plot. And I've got a tractor barn down there where I keep my tractor. And there's some more equipment in there, some implements. And I was, while I was down there, I was thinking, man, I don't have a way, I need to be watching this, need to be making sure nothing's going on. Thought about putting a trail camera on it, but guess what I thought of next?

Speaker 2:
[00:24] What did you think of next?

Speaker 1:
[00:25] The Tacticam Defend 360. I've got a Reveal 3.0 on my food plot, and now I've got a Defend 360 on my tractor barn, looking at the tractor, looking at the implements, making sure nobody messes with it, never gets touched. Grabbed a box out of the truck, a Defend box out of the truck, opened it up, popped it up on one of the poles on the pole barn, and now I've got 24-7 surveillance on things I need to be watching just with the click of an app on my phone.

Speaker 2:
[00:53] Yeah, and it doesn't cost you an arm and a leg to get going either. These things are $99 right now for the month of March, and you can also get 20% off all the hardware with code God's Country 20, God's Country 20. And plans start at $5 a month.

Speaker 1:
[01:07] Yeah, thanks for our buddies over at TactiCam for sending us this code, and you can visit defendcellcam.com right now to get yours. Yo, what's up? You're off in God's Country with your boys, Reid.

Speaker 2:
[01:45] And Dan.

Speaker 1:
[01:46] Isbell, also known as The Brothers Hunt, where we take a weekly drive. Got ahead of you, right here.

Speaker 2:
[01:52] I think we can start leaving drive out.

Speaker 1:
[01:54] I know, yeah. Let's try it again. A weekly, a little quicker next time. A weekly, there you go. To the intersection of country music and the great outdoors, two things that go together like Castrating Calves and Cow Guys.

Speaker 2:
[02:17] Nice. Or a Telecaster and a Vince Gill solo.

Speaker 1:
[02:22] You'll understand Cow Guys if you listen to the podcast. Brought to you by...

Speaker 2:
[02:28] We didn't have time to write a new one, so you just enjoy this one, okay? Some of you probably haven't heard it, do you? Wi-Fi or you don't.

Speaker 1:
[03:06] Or you don't.

Speaker 2:
[03:07] Wi-Fi or you don't.

Speaker 1:
[03:07] If you got a Wi-Fi or Wi-Fi or you don't.

Speaker 2:
[03:09] But listen, this episode is not about the intro. It's not about anything else except Zach Top.

Speaker 1:
[03:15] Zach freaking Top.

Speaker 2:
[03:18] I mean, we knew he was good. Everybody knows he's good.

Speaker 1:
[03:21] Yeah, he don't need no introduction.

Speaker 2:
[03:23] But dude, the tone, the tone is something I haven't seen since I've been in town.

Speaker 1:
[03:31] Yeah, he's different.

Speaker 2:
[03:32] The tone was perfect, dude. Yeah. It was perfect. To a point to where he was done with that, the Gravert, I didn't even want to say nothing, dude.

Speaker 1:
[03:44] Yeah, no, I asked him to sing a lot, probably too much, but I had to, man. I mean, he's one of my favorite vocalists in town right now, and what he does is so different from everybody else.

Speaker 2:
[03:54] Just filthy.

Speaker 1:
[03:55] And it's just so good. It's so good.

Speaker 2:
[03:57] I mean, his picking is, I mean, you'll see, when you listen to this stuff, it sounds like the record.

Speaker 1:
[04:02] Yeah, and he's a cool cat.

Speaker 2:
[04:03] To the point where I didn't even want to sing Harmony. Yeah. I was just like, I'm just gonna let that go.

Speaker 1:
[04:07] He's funny, he's witty, good stories.

Speaker 2:
[04:09] He was a delight.

Speaker 1:
[04:10] Yeah, it was an honor to sit down in the same room with him.

Speaker 2:
[04:16] I'm gonna go out and say we might have just interviewed like a hall of famer.

Speaker 1:
[04:21] I thought about one time, I thought about, man, should I video him just to have that video on my phone of one day? Like, can you imagine? And of course, no, I didn't. But like, can you imagine having a video of freaking Merle Haggard or-

Speaker 2:
[04:34] As a young guy singing the song?

Speaker 1:
[04:36] Yeah, or Alan Jackson or Garth or who, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[04:41] It's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[04:42] He's a monster dude, Zach Top. You're gonna love this one, man. You're gonna love it. Hit the subscribe button, hit the bell notification button, share it, save it.

Speaker 2:
[04:51] Appreciate all the sponsor boys.

Speaker 1:
[04:53] Appreciate everybody believing in the show like we do. And yeah, man, Zach Top, check it out. You're gonna love it.

Speaker 2:
[05:00] Next level.

Speaker 1:
[05:01] Yeah, see you next time. Peace. All right, we're off to a hot start already. Ray tried to, we got the new Gunnar Kindle in today. Ray tried to move the mics, you know, it was for Zach.

Speaker 3:
[05:17] Broke a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 1:
[05:18] And it's already fallen twice, broke some stuff. Yeah, so we put it back on.

Speaker 2:
[05:22] Slammed into your guitar for filing.

Speaker 3:
[05:24] We have not, yeah, we haven't quite broken any guitars yet. So that's good.

Speaker 1:
[05:28] Nothing like me walking in just saying, going, Jordan, Ray needed a sound check on the guitar, so Jordan was just holding the strumming. And when she got done, she just laid it on top of that metal case right there. I was like, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 2:
[05:40] People that don't play, they don't know, dude.

Speaker 1:
[05:44] No, they don't know, dude.

Speaker 3:
[05:45] Sometimes they sound better once you beat them up a little bit.

Speaker 2:
[05:47] Sometimes they do.

Speaker 3:
[05:48] I feel like I'm very middle of the road when it comes to that with guitars. Like I know people that are very, take way better care of their instruments than I do. And I take way better care of mine than some folks do too. But it, you know, I don't know, I'm somewhere in the middle of the road. I don't mind a little.

Speaker 1:
[06:06] I think they need to use. I think they need to work.

Speaker 3:
[06:07] Well loved. Yeah. I mean, I spill a beer on one every now and then.

Speaker 2:
[06:14] I might have a guitar on it.

Speaker 1:
[06:16] I'll ash in the sound one sometime.

Speaker 2:
[06:18] That just may be.

Speaker 3:
[06:19] If there's no where good to ash.

Speaker 1:
[06:21] If I ain't written a good song off that guitar.

Speaker 3:
[06:23] That's something I've never done. I can't believe I haven't thought to do that. Ash a cigarette inside the sound hole. That'd be pretty good. I'll tell you, one of the funniest, Jake Worthington, I was just telling you guys, he came out and hunted with me and some friends of mine in Oklahoma, duck hunting. He showed up the night before we were going to hunt. He pulls up in his truck. He just lives like a couple of minutes down the road, down these gravel back roads.

Speaker 2:
[06:50] From where you duck hunt?

Speaker 3:
[06:52] Yeah, from where we were. It was perfect. I knew he was closer and then we figured out and was like, dude, you're literally like five minutes away on gravel roads.

Speaker 1:
[07:00] Guy's a national treasure. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[07:04] He had had him a little bit of Crown Royal and it was the most comical looking thing. He pulls up in this old alley, it was 80 something big old Ford pickup and he jumps out of that thing with one of his guitars, no case on it or nothing. He just drags it out of the seat behind him as he's jumping down out of this truck, comes over and plops down by the fire and proceeded to sing his nuts off like nobody else can.

Speaker 1:
[07:35] Yeah, he's a killer. He's the best.

Speaker 2:
[07:38] Yeah, we loved having him on. He's a character too.

Speaker 3:
[07:40] Oh, did y'all have him on?

Speaker 1:
[07:41] Oh yeah, he did.

Speaker 2:
[07:42] Yeah, he's a character.

Speaker 1:
[07:43] He came in with his pleated pants and his perfectly crisp star-stained white shirt. And new balance on.

Speaker 2:
[07:49] Yeah, new balance.

Speaker 3:
[07:50] Yep, that's funny. I didn't realize it. I feel like when you're trying to get going and make it happen at first, I felt like I needed to be dressed the part all the time, non-stop. And then you start to slowly just like, I'll wear my stage clothes on stage. I don't need to wear all that to sit here. It's a bunch of guys. I know Jake does that all the time. Wearing the starch jeans with the sneakers is always a favorite move of mine.

Speaker 1:
[08:23] At a point, and that's just like life, right? You get a little bit older, you maybe settle down, and you're just kind of like, man, I just don't really care. I just don't really care about anybody anymore, except my family and my kids.

Speaker 3:
[08:35] I want to look half decent, but I don't need to be.

Speaker 2:
[08:39] Yeah, just a half.

Speaker 3:
[08:40] Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[08:40] Yeah, I don't need to wear New Balance.

Speaker 3:
[08:42] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[08:42] Jake's the only guy that's younger than me, and I'm like, are you my granddad?

Speaker 3:
[08:47] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[08:47] How are you my granddad if you're younger than me?

Speaker 3:
[08:49] He is a, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[08:51] Like he just feels like daddy's bud.

Speaker 3:
[08:53] Living, breathing.

Speaker 1:
[08:54] Yeah, he's old soul.

Speaker 3:
[08:55] Grandpa for sure.

Speaker 2:
[08:55] He's just a pawpaw, dude.

Speaker 3:
[08:57] Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[08:59] All right, Helling from Sunnyside. I bet some of you already know who it is, especially if you're watching the video, probably.

Speaker 2:
[09:06] Hopefully.

Speaker 1:
[09:06] Helling from Sunnyside, Washington. We got a Grammy nominee and winner now. Known to smoke a dart on stage mid-song. Internet says he's the son of Alan Jackson.

Speaker 2:
[09:19] We'll see about that.

Speaker 1:
[09:20] Former member of the bluegrass sibling band Top String. He's a multi-platinum artist, CMA and ACM award winning. Most recently nominated for five ACM awards. One of the most requested episodes for the show.

Speaker 2:
[09:33] Yeah, people have been blowing us up to have you on.

Speaker 1:
[09:36] We got the one and only Zach Top, God's Country podcast this week, y'all.

Speaker 3:
[09:44] Thank you guys for having me. That was a nice introduction.

Speaker 1:
[09:47] Thanks, dude.

Speaker 3:
[09:49] It's fun to, it's like there's something to say about me now. It used to be.

Speaker 2:
[09:55] Guy like Carson Chamberlain from H Exactly, exactly.

Speaker 3:
[09:59] That was my one accolade. This one old producer, songwriter guy.

Speaker 1:
[10:04] The guy after Eastie Corbin.

Speaker 3:
[10:06] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[10:10] I feel like we already know you. That's good. We talk a lot of trash. I love it.

Speaker 1:
[10:16] It was nice enough of the Grammys to make a award that you could win with the traditional.

Speaker 2:
[10:21] They were like, this guy's pretty good.

Speaker 1:
[10:23] Honestly, bro, my wife told me not to say that this morning in the car. I was like, I wonder if I could joke with him about like...

Speaker 3:
[10:28] No, it's perfect. It's a funny, I go back and forth on that. I'm very thankful obviously that they made the new category. It's cool. And it feels like, you know, a little extra special to win that the first year that it was a category. It's kind of like a little piece of history, I guess. However, maybe they'll ax it next year or something, but maybe then I'll be the only one that ever won of them. Oh, what if? But, That was backfired guys. We gotta get rid of that one. The, like, the ornery Jack and me wants to say, no, this is the, just call mine country. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:10] Totally, not traditional.

Speaker 3:
[11:11] Right, qualify the other stuff. If you want, like, you know, make the contemporary country category, that's fine. But like.

Speaker 1:
[11:17] Call mine country.

Speaker 3:
[11:19] Yeah, it's, I don't know. There's something about, there's, there's kind of like pillars to what everybody knows and loves as country. And I think it's exciting that there's a bunch of, you know, edgy stuff now. It's not edgy, it is the mainstream, I guess. I'm the one not in the mainstream. But there's like, there's new stuff and innovation that happens in all genres of music. So it's, it's exciting and it's fun that it gets more people in the door to country music. You know, it's like, it's not some, I don't want this to sound bad, but it's almost like Morgan Wallen's almost like a gateway drug to country music. Cause from what I can see, people who love country music will go just as quickly to a Morgan Wallen show and then go to my show the next night and have a blast, you know, the whole time. They want to wear their boots and, you know, here's some songs they know. And, and so I'm, I'm a, you know, come one, come all, if people are loving it and it's working fine and dandy and it's getting more people in the door to country music. So that's fun. But yeah, like I said, I got a little onerous side of me. That's, you know, still, I think it's a little, kind of a stick in the mud too, I guess.

Speaker 1:
[12:38] I think it's all fine and dandy.

Speaker 3:
[12:40] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[12:41] For the country listener.

Speaker 2:
[12:42] Yeah, it's fine and dandy, dude. Come on over.

Speaker 1:
[12:45] Yeah, man. And everybody that, everybody listens to country music, dude.

Speaker 2:
[12:49] I like what you said about it being a gateway drug too. It's almost like it, it would, it brings people that would not normally ever even consider 100% coming into country music. They're like, Ooh, I like this beat. I like this melody.

Speaker 3:
[13:03] His stuff is more like palatable, more approachable for somebody that's never listened to country stuff before. And so it's like, well, yeah, it kind of sounds like a hillbilly when he sings still, but it's got, you know, obviously hip hop type of influenced sounds to it.

Speaker 2:
[13:19] But then they go, well, who's opening for him? Oh, well, he's cool. I'll check him out.

Speaker 1:
[13:22] Oh dude, you're down the rabbit hole and then you listen to everybody.

Speaker 3:
[13:26] Yeah, so it's cool guys like him. Even the Beyonce thing, it's like, I'm not a fan of that at all. But it's like, eh, it might've made some more people pay attention to What Country Music. It might've been another thing. They got a few people in the door. So it's a...

Speaker 1:
[13:43] It might've turned some people away.

Speaker 3:
[13:44] Well, it might've got them out the door. It may have too. Probably a little bit. I mean, yeah, what Morgan is doing and has been doing is it's crazy, unheard of.

Speaker 2:
[13:57] They're good songs too, man. I mean, that's the other thing that I remember when he came on the scene and was going nuts. As much as old crotchety songwriters in Nashville wanted to hate on it, they couldn't because the songs were good.

Speaker 3:
[14:09] No, they're great. Yeah, yeah. Great commercial songs. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[14:12] I guess we won't talk about that.

Speaker 3:
[14:13] Right. 100%.

Speaker 1:
[14:14] They do the job that they're supposed to do really well.

Speaker 3:
[14:17] Yeah. And he's got, man, he's got some cool, cool... I mean, Sand in My Boots was one of the first ones. I think that's a great song.

Speaker 1:
[14:24] Great song.

Speaker 3:
[14:24] And what's the... Off this last record, the...

Speaker 1:
[14:32] There's a bunch of them.

Speaker 3:
[14:33] I know. There's a lot of them. What's the little... Yeah, I'm a little crazy, but the world is all sane. I think it's a great song. Yeah. Weird little things in it. Super interesting. I feel like there's a lot of songs that are commercial good songs that is like, yeah, all right, it didn't really turn my head or make me like, what was that? And that's one of them songs that I'm trying to remember what the...

Speaker 2:
[15:00] It's the second...

Speaker 3:
[15:01] It's Insane or something.

Speaker 1:
[15:02] Yeah, I'm a little crazy about the world.

Speaker 3:
[15:04] That one was like, oh, that's interesting. Oh, it's great.

Speaker 2:
[15:09] It's the nuts one.

Speaker 3:
[15:10] He's ride by scared on their Santa Claus bikes. Yeah. Yeah, a bunch of cool, cool lines in there. I like that song a lot.

Speaker 2:
[15:16] Jameson Rogers, Shadow of Jameson, Party.

Speaker 3:
[15:18] Is that who's on it?

Speaker 1:
[15:19] I couldn't remember. No, Jameson's on there.

Speaker 3:
[15:22] Nice.

Speaker 1:
[15:24] Dude, just got back from Augusta, saw some pictures.

Speaker 3:
[15:26] Yeah, yeah, man.

Speaker 1:
[15:27] Hanging out with our boys. We know Trey.

Speaker 3:
[15:30] Oh, no kidding.

Speaker 2:
[15:31] He called me yesterday. He's like, Hey man, you know Zach Top? I'm like, well, I'm about to.

Speaker 3:
[15:35] I love it. He was a blast. It was so funny.

Speaker 2:
[15:38] He's a giant, isn't he?

Speaker 3:
[15:39] He is a massive. I've never felt so small as I did hanging out in that crowd. Yeah. A bunch of ex football players. Yeah. It's like, dude, I never had to be the short guy. I'm 6'2 and I'm four inches shorter than the next guy.

Speaker 2:
[15:56] He's the biggest white guy I know.

Speaker 3:
[15:59] Trey?

Speaker 2:
[15:59] For sure.

Speaker 3:
[16:00] He's a big one.

Speaker 2:
[16:00] As far as just like a built big head, neck, knees.

Speaker 1:
[16:05] And that's when you can see like, the guys in the linemen in the NFL are a different level.

Speaker 2:
[16:12] It's a different breed.

Speaker 3:
[16:12] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[16:13] Athletes at that caliber and that level is just.

Speaker 2:
[16:17] Bro, you think you're something.

Speaker 1:
[16:18] It's almost.

Speaker 2:
[16:19] Until you stand across the line from that Joe.

Speaker 1:
[16:21] And then you were born to be an insurance man.

Speaker 2:
[16:24] I'll better learn to pick guitar.

Speaker 1:
[16:25] You were born to work for State Farm.

Speaker 2:
[16:27] Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[16:28] When you come walk up next to those guys.

Speaker 3:
[16:29] The first national anthem I ever did was a Bengals game. They had the Eagles in town. Anyway, you know, I go down there and do it right at the 50 yard line. And then as I'm getting done, all them guys are running back on the field. And I was like feeling like I had to dodge. I was about to be trampled by these little ladder three times as big as me. Never heard of that song. I heard an elephant. Yeah, exactly. I hope they see me.

Speaker 2:
[16:56] Excuse me, sir. Pardon me, sir. Pardon me, sir.

Speaker 1:
[17:01] What days did you go?

Speaker 3:
[17:03] We were just down there. My buddy, Duck Hodges.

Speaker 1:
[17:07] He was on a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 3:
[17:07] Oh, kill it.

Speaker 1:
[17:08] We loved him.

Speaker 3:
[17:08] Yeah. He's awesome. So he was talking about Club Country, I assume. So he threw a little party for that down there. So I went down, hung out for that and sang a couple songs with him. Duck from Fancy Dogs. Fancy Duck. He's going to get out of my price range here before long, I'm sure.

Speaker 1:
[17:23] Well, it already is.

Speaker 3:
[17:24] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:
[17:25] Send me some shirts, Duck.

Speaker 2:
[17:26] Good thing he sent us some stuff. We couldn't afford this.

Speaker 1:
[17:28] He hasn't sent us nothing yet.

Speaker 3:
[17:30] He invited me down for that thing, so that was fun. And then, yeah, we got to go on Thursday with Peyton and stuff.

Speaker 1:
[17:36] Is that your first time being down there? You've been down there before?

Speaker 3:
[17:39] I was down there last year. Just got to go see some of the part three on Wednesday. So that was the first time seeing an actual competitive round. It was awesome. Got to, we followed around Freddie Couples for, I don't know, six or seven holes.

Speaker 1:
[17:53] Oh, he came out hot. Two Thursday.

Speaker 3:
[17:55] I was so pumped. Birdie Birdie? Yeah, he was, yeah. I think he was one under. When we seen him, I think we started with him on 11 or something and then watched him, what'd he Birdie, 13, I think, to get to two under. And I was like, dude, this is awesome. I mean, he's from Seattle too. And who isn't a fan of Freddie Couples already, but then yeah, being, you know, from Washington as well, he's always been one of my favorites. And anyway, so we followed him. We watched him get to 200 and then he parred 14. And then he hit two in the water. He parred 515. That's like, dang it. This place is really hard.

Speaker 1:
[18:35] I was listening to those, those bar stool golf guys, the 14 guys, and they were like, they were talking to somebody about, they're like, what does an amateur shoot? And Kevin Kisner was like, there's a possibility that an amateur will never get off of the hole number 15 or 12.

Speaker 2:
[18:51] Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:
[18:52] There's a really good possibility that somebody could play those holes forever.

Speaker 3:
[18:56] Absolutely. Because you can't keep the ball in the green.

Speaker 2:
[18:58] What?

Speaker 1:
[18:59] You cannot keep the ball in the green.

Speaker 3:
[19:00] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:00] Cause you're going to, from every angle, there is a spot as big as the top of that kennel right there that you got to land it.

Speaker 3:
[19:06] Hit the putt just a little too hard. Let alone approach shots in there. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:11] Anything about the back and you got to down, you're a way, grains away, slopes away from the back. It's over.

Speaker 3:
[19:17] Exactly. You're going in the water every time. The slightest miss is just a disaster on that place. That's, it was, it was crazy seeing that. Obviously they talk about it a bunch and you watch it on TV every year, but being there and standing right next to those greens, just like, yeah, I don't, what in the world would I do from 120 yards out coming into this?

Speaker 1:
[19:37] Especially if they're running 13.

Speaker 3:
[19:39] 13% chance, exactly, that I stay on this green.

Speaker 1:
[19:41] They're 12 and a half to 13, so you're not keeping them on there.

Speaker 3:
[19:43] With a gap, which, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[19:44] All right, so what's the main difference that you recognize between watching it on TV and being there? Because when you watch it on TV, you're like, oh, that doesn't look too difficult.

Speaker 3:
[19:56] I think that's the whole thing. You just seeing the undulation in those greens in person. And the frigging hills.

Speaker 1:
[20:03] Like the way the course moves.

Speaker 2:
[20:04] What do you mean the hills? Is it hilly?

Speaker 3:
[20:06] Oh, crazy. Yeah, like, there's not a flat lie even in fairways and stuff. They have almost, there's always some little downslope where the ball's above your feet or below your feet or there's not just like a... Other than T-boxes, it seems like there's almost no flat lies out there.

Speaker 1:
[20:23] Somebody was complaining about that. They were like, I don't think The Masters does a good enough job of having camera levels, camera angles level with the ground to see how these guys are actually hitting the ball. Because it looks like they're hittin into flat spots on the fairways and everything's a perfect lie. But literally, he was like, every shot these guys hit from the fairway or the rough, your ball's below your feet, ball's above your feet. It's something that is... Like you never have a flat lie unless you're on the T-box.

Speaker 3:
[20:50] Yeah, it's wild to see. That was... It was really cool.

Speaker 1:
[20:54] Godly, they hit that ball a mile. Oh, that's crazy, dude.

Speaker 3:
[20:57] It was so cool to see. We saw Deshambault swing in person. That was a fun one. I hadn't... I mean, I've been to a few golf tournaments and stuff, and I got the chance to be... I don't think I got to see him hit one close up.

Speaker 2:
[21:13] I feel like he swings out of his shoes, man, when he takes off.

Speaker 3:
[21:15] Oh, I know. And he's a little guy.

Speaker 1:
[21:16] It's like controlled.

Speaker 3:
[21:17] Hits it a mile.

Speaker 1:
[21:18] Yeah, it's like 190 mile an hour ball speed. That's like the fastest of the tour, but it doesn't look... He's so good, man. He's so freaking good. And to do it back to back, I don't know that you'll ever, in our lifetime, I don't know that we'll ever see another back to back. Maybe Scotty does it again.

Speaker 3:
[21:32] I know, that's crazy. How many guys have done it?

Speaker 1:
[21:35] Four.

Speaker 3:
[21:36] Who is it? It's gotta be Nicholas and Tiger.

Speaker 1:
[21:38] Nicholas, Tiger, Faldo and Rory.

Speaker 3:
[21:41] Yeah, that's crazy. I know. It's funny. For whatever reason, I have something against Rory.

Speaker 2:
[21:49] Cool. He loves this show, so he'll definitely do it. Good.

Speaker 3:
[21:51] That's perfect. I don't have any reason to really, but for whatever reason, I've always just kind of rooted against him.

Speaker 2:
[22:00] Because he's not American, dude.

Speaker 3:
[22:02] I guess.

Speaker 2:
[22:02] Yeah, that's why I'm really against him.

Speaker 3:
[22:03] Dang Irish guy. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[22:06] The Colin McGonigal generation, dude. Don't worry about my generation, dude. It's just like the easy to not like, because he's so freaking good and he wins American tournaments.

Speaker 3:
[22:12] There's that. Yeah. And then I feel like when all the PGA lives stuff, he kind of became the martyr for the PGA and was just like, a little too much holier than that. Yeah, for sure he was. But I do think it's like, he seems like probably you could sit and have a beer with him and he'd be a pretty cool guy. But that was when he, I mean, it was one thing, obviously, to get the monkey off his back last year and then to come back and do it again. That's like, that's a pretty big statement. It's hard to not appreciate that.

Speaker 1:
[22:48] It's impressive.

Speaker 2:
[22:48] I think we're talking too much about this.

Speaker 3:
[22:49] Congrats Rory.

Speaker 2:
[22:50] But congrats Rory.

Speaker 1:
[22:51] I can sit here and talk about golf all day.

Speaker 2:
[22:52] I thought he was, no, I'm done. I'll start.

Speaker 1:
[22:56] Wait, what?

Speaker 3:
[22:59] Yama saw he was going to blow it again. Yeah, so he's going to blow it. I know, when he, what was the double he made on the part three early in the round and he dropped it and he was two strokes back in the lead and it's like, oh my goodness, what a choke job.

Speaker 2:
[23:12] And then Rose was coming on.

Speaker 3:
[23:13] He steadied it and come back. Dude, Rose blew it.

Speaker 1:
[23:17] Yeah, not, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[23:18] Hey, Cam Young, I put money on Cam Young. I did too, I did too. I would have been excited to see him do that.

Speaker 2:
[23:24] People don't like him. Why do people not like Cam Young?

Speaker 3:
[23:26] Oh really?

Speaker 2:
[23:27] Yeah. They say he's very stoic, he doesn't smile and stuff.

Speaker 1:
[23:31] Oh, that's why, cause he's not, he's not.

Speaker 3:
[23:33] Everybody does that. Scottie is one of the most like emotionless people on the golf course. I feel like you can ever see.

Speaker 1:
[23:39] Which is one of the reasons he's probably so good at golf is he can just chill out and be affected. A birdie is the same as a bogey.

Speaker 2:
[23:46] We're getting the wrap it up.

Speaker 3:
[23:47] Next show. Sorry, no more golf talk.

Speaker 1:
[23:50] We do this little thing we call What You Mad At. Brought to you by Poncho Outdoor.

Speaker 2:
[24:10] Yeah, I forgot that one, sorry.

Speaker 3:
[24:12] That was beautiful.

Speaker 1:
[24:12] They did that one quick.

Speaker 3:
[24:13] I gotta tell you. I was ready for that one.

Speaker 2:
[24:14] Bluegrass, bluegrass.

Speaker 3:
[24:15] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jeez, get that thing cranked up there where Bill would have done it.

Speaker 1:
[24:19] Give me a wink or something.

Speaker 2:
[24:20] Well, y'all talk so much about golf, we only got 10 minutes left.

Speaker 3:
[24:22] Yeah. What I'm mad at.

Speaker 1:
[24:26] What are you mad at?

Speaker 3:
[24:27] I know they, I think Mike sent me these questions so I could prepare, but I didn't prepare. This will be very honest.

Speaker 1:
[24:35] People know, they get sent these questions now?

Speaker 3:
[24:38] Just in general, like here's what the run of the little MO is. And I had thought, my point in saying that was I had thought of something. And now that it's time for the... Yeah, you guys go.

Speaker 1:
[24:53] Let me go. Mine's Dom.

Speaker 3:
[24:54] Okay, come on.

Speaker 1:
[24:55] I left my windows down on my truck the other day. Beautiful day outside, I just left my window rolling into the driveway, left them down, got out. Next time I got in my truck, a bird had landed, flown into my truck, landed on my steering wheel and shit on my steering console.

Speaker 3:
[25:11] That's beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[25:12] Oh, that's kind of poetic.

Speaker 1:
[25:14] It's like a white, there's a white circle, a little black. Right, just a bird shit right there on my steering console.

Speaker 2:
[25:19] What'd you use to clean it off with? Scratch it off and keep driving?

Speaker 1:
[25:22] It's still on there.

Speaker 2:
[25:23] You left it.

Speaker 1:
[25:24] I flicked the top turd off. That was like the heavy turd, not the juice, not the white juice around it. Not, yeah, I flicked it off out the window and then just left the rest.

Speaker 3:
[25:34] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[25:34] So I'm still mad at it.

Speaker 3:
[25:35] Have you washed it since? No, it's still in there.

Speaker 2:
[25:37] Right now it's cooking out there.

Speaker 3:
[25:39] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:
[25:40] So I'm mad at it every time I get my truck.

Speaker 3:
[25:42] That's pretty good.

Speaker 2:
[25:43] That's pretty good. Bird.

Speaker 3:
[25:45] And I introduced you to a, what are them dang, Clorox wipes.

Speaker 2:
[25:49] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[25:50] Clean it up in no time.

Speaker 2:
[25:51] It's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[25:52] I think I got some.

Speaker 3:
[25:53] For a new sponsor there.

Speaker 1:
[25:54] I think I got some in my console.

Speaker 3:
[25:56] You might, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[25:56] I think I do.

Speaker 2:
[25:57] Right beside where I drive.

Speaker 3:
[25:58] Just grab a napkin out of the glove box, spit on that thing a little bit, and scrub it off.

Speaker 1:
[26:03] Instead of every time, I go, this is my bird.

Speaker 3:
[26:05] Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[26:06] Did you get your tires fixed?

Speaker 1:
[26:08] Yeah, dude. Brand new tires.

Speaker 2:
[26:10] Riding into town with Reid was like, and he was like, his side, it wasn't that bad, but the passenger side was super wobbly.

Speaker 1:
[26:17] I couldn't find, I was waiting for a deal. I'm a deal guy.

Speaker 3:
[26:20] Fair enough. What'd you get? Did you get some?

Speaker 1:
[26:22] Got some Nittos, dawg.

Speaker 3:
[26:23] Tires.

Speaker 1:
[26:24] Marketplace, though.

Speaker 3:
[26:25] Ah, fair enough.

Speaker 1:
[26:25] Make up a deal.

Speaker 3:
[26:26] Used or?

Speaker 1:
[26:27] No, they're brand new.

Speaker 3:
[26:27] Okay, okay.

Speaker 2:
[26:30] What's wrong with used tires?

Speaker 3:
[26:32] Nope, nothing at all. I was just, I don't think I've ever heard anybody buying tires off a Facebook Marketplace. You can buy anything.

Speaker 1:
[26:40] I bought that truck.

Speaker 3:
[26:41] You can buy anything. What is it?

Speaker 1:
[26:43] It's a 2019 Silverado 1500.

Speaker 3:
[26:46] Okay, I was getting excited for you to say something old. I've been on the hunt for like an old 70s or 80s. Some Chevy or GM.

Speaker 2:
[26:55] Like a Blazer?

Speaker 3:
[26:56] Square body thing. Pick up. Yeah, K-10 or something.

Speaker 2:
[27:00] I got some I'll show you.

Speaker 1:
[27:01] The Cheyenne's are disgusting, dude.

Speaker 3:
[27:03] Yeah, those are sweet. I love them things.

Speaker 1:
[27:04] Yeah, those Cheyenne's are nasty.

Speaker 3:
[27:06] Mike's dad has a sweet one. What is that? 69 or something? 70? Okay.

Speaker 1:
[27:11] We just went to Tater Day, which is where Jordan's from. Tater Queen right here, by the way.

Speaker 3:
[27:17] Tater Queen? What did you have to do for that?

Speaker 1:
[27:21] Have all our teeth. Yeah, only one with a full set of teeth.

Speaker 2:
[27:24] Some people from there listen, dude. I'll just...

Speaker 1:
[27:27] They know.

Speaker 3:
[27:28] Where was this at?

Speaker 1:
[27:31] It's Western Kentucky.

Speaker 3:
[27:32] Oh, let's go.

Speaker 1:
[27:33] Western, Southern Kentucky. Yeah, Marshall County. Well, anybody.

Speaker 3:
[27:36] A girl with all her teeth that can call in pigs? I see why you want anything.

Speaker 2:
[27:41] I see why you murdered her.

Speaker 1:
[27:42] You gave her the trophy.

Speaker 3:
[27:43] Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[27:45] And anybody can enter. So like you had a bunch of those old cats who all they do is work in them Chevelles and Shines and K10s and Blazers, put their stuff in. There were some sharp trucks.

Speaker 3:
[27:55] I believe it.

Speaker 1:
[27:56] Sharp trucks.

Speaker 2:
[27:57] I got a 75 going. I'm real excited about it.

Speaker 3:
[27:59] Really? That's awesome.

Speaker 2:
[28:00] Blazer, K5. It's a Shine.

Speaker 1:
[28:03] Yeah, those are sick.

Speaker 2:
[28:04] That'd be nice.

Speaker 3:
[28:04] That's awesome.

Speaker 2:
[28:05] Excited about that.

Speaker 1:
[28:06] What you mad at?

Speaker 2:
[28:08] Man, my wrist has been hurting for no reason. To the point to where I had to buy a brace. So I have to sleep with a Terminator wrist brace.

Speaker 1:
[28:20] Are you a hypochondriac?

Speaker 2:
[28:23] No.

Speaker 3:
[28:24] Remind me what that is.

Speaker 2:
[28:25] That's when you think something's wrong with you. All the time.

Speaker 3:
[28:27] Okay, okay.

Speaker 2:
[28:28] It's different than when something actually is wrong with you.

Speaker 3:
[28:30] Convince yourself something's wrong with you.

Speaker 2:
[28:31] Yeah. Like there's a sharp burning pain right here when I do this and I think it's a lot to do with that.

Speaker 3:
[28:39] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[28:40] It hurts and I can't figure it out.

Speaker 3:
[28:42] It's no good.

Speaker 2:
[28:43] But I'm not going to the doctor. You know?

Speaker 3:
[28:45] No.

Speaker 2:
[28:46] I hate the doctor.

Speaker 3:
[28:49] I don't want to go to the dentist. I don't want to go to the doctor. I'd rather just wake up dead than know that there's something like colon cancer. I'm not going to get screened for that. I'll just die of it.

Speaker 2:
[29:01] You'd just rather wake up dead.

Speaker 1:
[29:03] Just rather not know than the anxiety and the stress of knowing. I'm with that.

Speaker 3:
[29:09] I would rather... When the Lord calls me, it'll be my time. Until then, I'm just going to cruise.

Speaker 2:
[29:17] But it's kind of like that guy... My dad used to tell the story in church all the time. There's a guy. He said, hey, man, you got to get out of this house. There's a flood coming. The guy in the house said, no, man, the Lord's going to take care of me. Water gets high. He goes to the second floor. They come in on a boat. Hey, man, water's getting high. Like, hop in this boat. We'll take it. He's like, no, dude, I got faith in the Lord. He's going to take care of me. They come back on the roof and they get a helicopter. Same situation. So he gets to heaven at the gates and they let him in. He's like, dude, I mean, you told me to have faith. I had faith the entire time. He said, well, hell, son, I sent two boats to the helicopter. I mean, it's kind of the same situation.

Speaker 3:
[29:58] It's like, okay. That's a fair argument. That's a solid argument, all right? One of these days I'll grow up and be more mature about it.

Speaker 1:
[30:06] It's all good. They don't give culling screenings until you're 45 anyway.

Speaker 3:
[30:08] Yeah, I got some time.

Speaker 2:
[30:10] You got 30 years before you got hit that.

Speaker 3:
[30:12] Oh, Lord. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[30:14] Oh, man.

Speaker 3:
[30:15] Okay, now I got to do a mad at. I'm angry at my back. I, well, here's another. Well, that too. Every time I play a round of golf badly, I just like not swinging right. It hurts my back. And then this morning I woke up, I woke up late, Mike rang my doorbell, which is what woke me up to bring me here.

Speaker 2:
[30:43] Nice.

Speaker 3:
[30:43] And I got out of bed and like was holding my back like an old man. It's terrible. And so I've been, yeah. And I thought of another one too, if I can say two things I'm mad at. This is probably the stupidest thing to be mad at, but way more fun. On the, lately I've been, I was always skinny as a rail my whole life and like couldn't gain weight to save my life. And then one year on a bus and 30 pounds comes really easy. So did that. And then so lately, basically since the start of this year, I've been trying to pay attention a little more because it just, there's beer always at any time. Yeah. And nobody frowns at me cause I'm not showing up the office drinking beer. It's just like, well, it's Monday, but that's my weekend. I worked Friday, Saturday, Sunday, so I can drink beer on Monday if I want to. But then on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I also want to have a couple of beers. I'm doing a show. And so you can literally just drink something 24 seven. And it's like, that's, I don't think that's normal. Probably don't need to.

Speaker 1:
[31:52] Doctor probably wouldn't.

Speaker 3:
[31:53] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[31:54] If you'd ever go, he'd tell you not to do that.

Speaker 3:
[31:56] If I ever went, he'd say that wouldn't be a great idea. But then I just realized, so I've been on this good kick. I'd lost 15 pounds since the beginning of, or like the middle of February or something. I was down 15 pounds. And then I've had a bad week long stretch here. Went to The Masters. Off the wagon. I'm not gonna not drink a million beers. And I'm like, I'm on the, I'm not trying to be sober. I'm drinking. It's just like, you know, just like.

Speaker 1:
[32:24] I'm good Peyton, I'm watching my drink.

Speaker 3:
[32:26] Right, exactly. I'm not doing that. And I'm gonna, you know, they got all the great food out there. I'm gonna load up. So did that. And then, and I keep on telling myself, it's like when I'm at one of these things, it's fun. That's like, all right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna drink here. But then the next few days I won't drink. But then it's like, went to a birthday party, crawfish bowl on Sunday when I got back. And so obviously I'm gonna eat, yeah, 12 pounds of crawfish and drink a bunch of beer. And then it's like, all right, but I'm not drinking much. And then I played in a charity golf tournament yesterday. And I'm not gonna not drink then. So I think I'm not drinking today. And that's about it. Cause then tomorrow I'm going home and we're bringing my dad. We're thinking of our next segment.

Speaker 2:
[33:08] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[33:08] And so then I'm gonna spend the whole weekend drinking while we bring calves. And at some point I gotta, I don't know, I gotta do something.

Speaker 2:
[33:18] So you're a real cow guy.

Speaker 3:
[33:21] I am not a real cow guy. I have seen cows. I have touched cows.

Speaker 2:
[33:26] You said branding, so I assumed you were real.

Speaker 1:
[33:28] You said we are branding cows all weekend.

Speaker 3:
[33:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, we are. I'll be in there. I'll be cutting nuts. I'll be roping. That's a cow guy.

Speaker 2:
[33:35] Yeah. What about not a cow guy?

Speaker 1:
[33:36] What else do you have to do to be a cow guy?

Speaker 3:
[33:38] I don't know. Be good at it.

Speaker 2:
[33:41] Be good at cutting nuts?

Speaker 3:
[33:42] They also call cow guys cowboys, by the way, fellas. More commonly referred to. Yeah. I'm a bad one, I guess. I do things that cowboys do. I just do them poorly.

Speaker 2:
[33:56] So you're just a bad cowboy?

Speaker 3:
[33:58] Yeah. Pretty much. That's what I got a day job.

Speaker 2:
[34:00] I like that.

Speaker 1:
[34:01] So you're literally going to cut nuts. Yeah. We were in Kansas one time, turkey hunting me and Luke Combs. And we were turkey hunting this ranch where they were doing, they were cutting nuts as we were turkey hunting. And we went and they let us get back there. We shot a turkey. We came back. We were showing them. And Luke was like, what y'all doing? They were like, we're castrating.

Speaker 3:
[34:20] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[34:21] And they were like, you want to try? He was like, yeah, I'll try. And they were like, here's the raise. I was like, no, I'm stopping it right here, dude. Cause if you slip one time and slice your hand.

Speaker 3:
[34:31] Or let alone some vital organ. No, it's fun. I mean, it's not that hard. We, it was funny. We talked, my girlfriend had never done it. She'd come out there last year and saw it all for the first time. She got in there. She's a gamer. She does. Where's out there? Washington back home.

Speaker 2:
[34:49] You're going back home to cut cows nuts off.

Speaker 3:
[34:51] Yeah, exactly. Couldn't find anything better to spend my time with.

Speaker 2:
[34:55] I'm just not built for cows, dude.

Speaker 3:
[34:58] It's so fun. It's such a, like I got to be around it a good bit as a little kid. My dad's always whatever been in the livestock business. So I got to be around it and it's like, it's fun to, it's a lot less fun if you have to actually do it for a living, I'm sure. But for me, when I just get to go cosplay a couple of times a year, it's really fun and the brainings are always just a big party. Everybody, half the people are sitting around drinking beer and half the people are working and then everybody just rotates. You can wear a cowboy hat. I put in my three days a year so that it's like, you can't tell me.

Speaker 2:
[35:36] Yeah, valid credit for cowboy hats.

Speaker 1:
[35:39] Logo's justified.

Speaker 2:
[35:41] Cowboy hat credit, dude, I get it.

Speaker 3:
[35:42] Thank you, dad, for providing an outlet that I can still do a little bit of it and give myself a little bit of legitimacy. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[35:52] I feel like there's like a bar that you have to be able to do in order to wear a cowboy hat. I feel like if you can't saddle a horse, or I don't even know what a minuscule thing is.

Speaker 3:
[36:04] Yeah, that'd be a good, yeah, that's not a bad.

Speaker 1:
[36:06] You can't wear a cowboy hat if you can't ride a horse. If you can't ride a horse, you can't wear a cowboy hat.

Speaker 2:
[36:11] If you can't mend the fence, you can't wear a cowboy hat.

Speaker 1:
[36:16] If you can't hoof a horse.

Speaker 2:
[36:18] No, nobody can do that.

Speaker 3:
[36:20] Are you a, trim a hoof?

Speaker 1:
[36:22] Yeah, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 3:
[36:23] I couldn't do that.

Speaker 1:
[36:24] Okay, that's kind of deep.

Speaker 3:
[36:26] I'm getting to you. That's getting pretty involved. There's a lot of- What's the line? Where's the line? Where is the line?

Speaker 2:
[36:32] What about a gate that you had to wrap your arms around and pull to and then take the wire off?

Speaker 3:
[36:37] Yeah, that's a good test.

Speaker 2:
[36:38] Can you wear a cowboy hat?

Speaker 1:
[36:40] I can do that.

Speaker 3:
[36:41] Well, yeah, but I mean, that's- There's a lot of people that probably couldn't. They wouldn't know what they were looking at when they walked up to it.

Speaker 2:
[36:46] I'm saying we know how to do that. Do we get like a week's worth of cowboy hat wear?

Speaker 3:
[36:50] Yeah, yeah, that's another good point. If you can do this, you get a week a year that nobody's going to give you sh- for wearing a cowboy hat. If you do this, you get two months out of that.

Speaker 2:
[37:01] If you cut a cow's nuts off, that's a year's subscription to a cowboy hat. I think there should be qualifiers. Glad to know you made it.

Speaker 3:
[37:12] I don't know if I- I'm going to see how I do this weekend. Are you a cow guy? Exactly. Are you a cow guy? These guys don't even know what they're called. That's how far from cow guys they are. I'll find out how I do this weekend. I might be changing my look for this coming up tour.

Speaker 1:
[37:31] Might not be able to wear the cowboy hat.

Speaker 2:
[37:32] Exactly. One more. So what's the most cowboy guy thing you can do? Like-

Speaker 3:
[37:40] That I would be able to do?

Speaker 2:
[37:41] When you think about it, what's the most cowboy thing, qualifier you can do? Are you riding a horse?

Speaker 3:
[37:49] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:50] Okay, that's pretty good.

Speaker 3:
[37:51] I'll rope. I hadn't roped in a long time last year.

Speaker 2:
[37:54] I feel like if you've roped a cow in your life, I think you're-

Speaker 1:
[37:59] Might be a lifetime subscription.

Speaker 3:
[38:01] All right, I did it. I need to wear a glove this year. I got out there and roped and I'm not good, like I said before. And if you're not good, you shouldn't rope bare handed. Anyway, I just jumped up there. One of the guys was like, man, get up here. So he loaned me his horse and I just jumped up there and didn't even think about it. Went and caught one, just got one heel and went to dally it and he took off on me. And so just rope burn the living sh** out of the inside of my fingers. I had these things taped up for a couple of weeks. I got to play the next weekend. So I need to wear a glove this year and make sure I don't tear my hands up again.

Speaker 2:
[38:38] But you're going to wear a little PGA golf. It was going to be wide.

Speaker 3:
[38:41] I make a little roping glove. I should wear a golf glove though. That would be a tideless one. But yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[38:47] That would cut you to your foot joint.

Speaker 1:
[38:51] I know.

Speaker 3:
[38:52] That's a detractor against my cowboy hat subscription, I would think.

Speaker 2:
[38:55] I should wear the golf glove. Yeah, that cuts you in half.

Speaker 1:
[38:58] What was it like growing up in Sunnyside? So you said you grew up on a ranch. Your dad was a?

Speaker 3:
[39:04] Yeah, grew up on the ranch is a stretch. We had a hobby farm, I think 40, 50 acres or something that our house was on. We had a bunch of animals around there, a bunch of goats. That was what we first started roping on, me and my brother. We weren't big enough to, yeah, we weren't riding horses and roping. We weren't big enough to rope calves, so we'd just run around on our feet and rope goats.

Speaker 2:
[39:27] You're a goat roper, dude.

Speaker 3:
[39:28] Exactly, exactly, I can't do you. Goat roper would be far more accurate than ever calling me a cowboy, I will say that. But yeah, we always had a handful of horses around, a few cattle every now and then, a bunch of chickens. It was basically just a little hobby farm. We'd get eggs off of it, and it was basically, I think, a lot of fun for us kids and a way to, it was our chores to do too, to take care of them and stuff. Yeah, it was good. From an early age, I remember being like five years old and we'd get up at five in the morning and go down there and do all the, you know, probably hours worth of work maybe. And we'd get paid a quarter for it. And I was so excited about that. And then at one point, my dad started paying us 50 cents for it and I was over the moon.

Speaker 2:
[40:24] It was incredible.

Speaker 3:
[40:25] Yeah, exactly, exactly. But yeah, it was just kind of like that. And I was at my dad's run the Sailborne out there. That's his main business. But he was partners with a fella in a ranch when we were little. And so we'd get to go ride out there and check fence and do all the gathers and the brandings. And that's fun. Yeah, it was awesome, man. It's nothing but fond memories looking back on it for sure.

Speaker 1:
[40:55] I see you doing some hunting now. Did you do any hunting back then?

Speaker 3:
[40:58] Not hardly. Not hardly. That was never a thing my dad did. We, like, my whole friend group kind of growing up, we spent a lot more time, yeah, around horses and cows, I guess, than around, I mean, we had BB guns and we'd run around. I got a shotgun when I was 10 or something, and we'd go shoot clay pigeons and stuff like that. But yeah, never, never really any hunting. We shoot coyotes every now and then out at the ranch or try to anyway. And yeah, exactly, pretty much.

Speaker 1:
[41:30] They're hard to hit when they're running.

Speaker 3:
[41:31] Yeah, yes they are, yes they are. But yeah, just like the last, I guess I went duck hunting the first time in college. A couple of my roommates, one of them's now my brother-in-law, they all did it. And so I went along a couple of times and kind of had fun. I mean, it's fun whether you kill anything or not, you know, just the hang is great. Yeah. But then in the last two years have gotten, you know, the opportunity to go to some really cool places and shoot a lot of birds and that's like, I can, I'm no great duck caller, but I've kind of got the hang of that a little bit. And I've got, this is the first time got a little springer spaniel dog. He's year and a half or something. I get him back in May or June.

Speaker 1:
[42:21] So you got him at the duck school?

Speaker 3:
[42:24] Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. That and Upland stuff too.

Speaker 1:
[42:27] Come on, man.

Speaker 3:
[42:28] Yeah, shout out to my boy, Aaron Seifritz over there at Falco Retrievers.

Speaker 1:
[42:34] And that's awesome.

Speaker 3:
[42:34] Yeah, I've taken good care of him. So yeah, that's made it even more, yeah, I'm all in. Amelia, my girlfriend got the dog originally and she was just going to have him be a house pet. And I was like, come on, this actually is kind of an awesome dog. I wanna see if I can get him trained. The first time I've got to have one professionally trained, I can make him sit and lay down and stuff. But all this stuff is, it's so wild to see what they can do. And that's, yeah, I'm sold on it. I'm very hooked on duck hunting. And I'm supposed to go turkey hunt tomorrow, I think.

Speaker 1:
[43:06] Oh, nice.

Speaker 3:
[43:07] I went down with Duck.

Speaker 1:
[43:09] Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:
[43:10] Went down to Mississippi a couple days or a couple weeks ago and got one in like 75 yards and then he wandered off. So that was kind of hung up on you. Exciting. And yeah. But yeah, I've only ever killed one turkey before. It was a friggin zombie bird.

Speaker 1:
[43:28] Zombie turkey.

Speaker 3:
[43:29] Well, you see people that here's another thing I'm bad at that I do a little bit. It's turkey hunt. And the first bird I ever killed.

Speaker 2:
[43:39] We'll get to things you're good at. I promise.

Speaker 3:
[43:40] One of these days. For my final trick.

Speaker 2:
[43:45] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[43:46] Here's one thing I'm okay at. Yeah, exactly. But we, some of Amelia's family friends took us out.

Speaker 2:
[43:55] Where in Mississippi?

Speaker 3:
[43:56] Outside of Grenada.

Speaker 2:
[43:57] Oh, okay.

Speaker 3:
[43:58] Yeah. Took us out. We had three march up this little road at us. Me and Amelia were both sitting on the trees. You take the one on the right, I got the one on the left. And so, and they got in, it was probably 50 yards or something. And they acted like they were about to kind of start walking back into the woods. And so, I was like, I wish you'd just shoot them. They might not come back out. So we did, she hit hers, but it ran right off. I folded mine, it went down, it flopped around on the ground and it laid still. Experience people who are good at turkey hunting, run up there and they step on their head and make sure they don't run off. I jumped up and started hooting, hollering and high fiving. And then we walk up there and I got 10 feet away from this bird and it jumped up and ran off. And the guy that took us, his little boy was there, I mean not little, he's 13 or 14 or something. Anyway, he starts hollering, cross, get on that bird, tackle that bird, cross. He starts running. I set my gun down and take off running after him. I got the stupid turkey belt thing with the little seed on it, so that thing's slapping me on the ass. I swear we ran two miles chasing this thing and never could catch it. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm trying to keep up with this 14-year-old kid and he's trying to keep up with the turkey. We finally lost it. I was like, I cannot believe we let that thing get away. Anyway, the guy that took me, Zach Carpenter, goes back there the next morning and he said like 50 yards from where I killed it, found a dead turkey. I was like, I have to assume it's yours. And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna assume too. So anyway, I've got spurs and the beard off of it at the house, but yeah, I need the full thing. I need the picture with its tail spread out and all that. So we're trying to get that done with Duck tomorrow.

Speaker 2:
[45:44] Yeah, he'll get it done.

Speaker 3:
[45:46] Yeah, I have great faith in him. Shoot, Zach Carpenter did everything right too. I just forgot to run up there.

Speaker 2:
[45:52] Well, if Duck fails you, holler at your boys.

Speaker 1:
[45:54] Absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[45:56] We got a spot. We got a couple of spots.

Speaker 3:
[45:57] I love it. I keep on being tempted to shoot one in mine. I don't think I'm allowed to. I think I'm in Britain with the city limits still, but there's a double beard that wanders through the yard.

Speaker 2:
[46:08] How big is the yard, man?

Speaker 3:
[46:10] It's on five acres.

Speaker 2:
[46:12] Oh, you can do it. We can get away with four ten?

Speaker 3:
[46:15] Yeah. My neighbor Harry, he's awesome. He shoots in his backyard, so he wouldn't care.

Speaker 2:
[46:19] No, dude.

Speaker 3:
[46:20] I know he wouldn't.

Speaker 2:
[46:21] We can have you out on that real quick, real quick, fast life and still have time to get stuff done during the day.

Speaker 3:
[46:27] That's right.

Speaker 2:
[46:27] We'll just have to get him to come get you out of bed at four.

Speaker 3:
[46:30] Yeah, exactly. I'll get up for that, you know, if it's around a golf or hunting or anything like that.

Speaker 1:
[46:36] We can do both of those.

Speaker 2:
[46:37] You came to the right podcast, dude.

Speaker 3:
[46:41] All right, we're going to.

Speaker 1:
[47:33] What?

Speaker 2:
[47:33] How is it spelled? No, dude. It's this.

Speaker 3:
[47:41] That was actually kind of heat.

Speaker 2:
[47:42] Nice, thanks.

Speaker 3:
[47:43] Yeah, that was fire.

Speaker 2:
[48:03] Weather's warming up, and it's time to pack away that winter gear and start thinking about more lightweight, versatile spring and summer options. The other day, I took my boy fishing. I threw on a poncho. It protected me from the sun, but it was also super lightweight. I got some little schmutz on it, no problem. Threw it in the wash, it comes out brand new. I love that shirt. Whether you're fishing all day in the sun, working up a sweat on the job side, or tending to livestock, bro, this shirt is it.

Speaker 1:
[48:29] Yeah, my favorite thing about these shirts is how versatile they are. You can kind of almost wear them anywhere. I wear my poncho shirts to work. I wear my poncho shirts to mow in. I wear my poncho shirts to fish in. Yeah, they're just super versatile shirt. They work if you're outside all day, but still look good if you're heading out afterward.

Speaker 2:
[48:47] I'm gonna tell you this, I got a t-shirt on right now, and this thing is super butter soft, dude. I'm gonna order more of these. These are legit.

Speaker 1:
[48:54] Go to ponchooutdoors.com/godscountry and enter your email for $10 off your first order. Do a little game.

Speaker 3:
[49:02] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[49:04] It's called Lyric or Lie.

Speaker 3:
[49:05] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[49:06] And I'm gonna sing a lyric from a 90s country song. And you tell me if it's been manipulated.

Speaker 3:
[49:12] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[49:13] Or if it's accurate.

Speaker 3:
[49:15] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[49:15] Okay? All right, here we go. First one. Ready. All the marbles and rocks and thought twice before I hauled a baby doll bed for the girl next door.

Speaker 3:
[49:25] Manipulation, it's Barbie doll bed.

Speaker 1:
[49:28] One for one. Ray, can I not get a sound for that dude? Like a right sound?

Speaker 3:
[49:31] Yeah, get us a little.

Speaker 1:
[49:32] Like a check mark sound or something? What are you doing in something? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[49:35] What are you doing in there?

Speaker 1:
[49:36] What are you doing in there?

Speaker 2:
[49:37] It's always the meh.

Speaker 1:
[49:40] All right, here's another one. And that big four poster king size bed where so much love was made. She said, give it away. He said, give it away.

Speaker 3:
[49:51] That's accurate. Oh, give it away, George Strait, Jamie Johnson.

Speaker 2:
[49:55] Oh, there you go, Ray. That was a good one. Two for two.

Speaker 3:
[50:07] Manipulation. That's a day I'll never forget. Oh, Tim McGraw. We listen to a lot of that record specifically when we were real little. That was some of my parents' favorite. We listened to a ton of Tim McGraw.

Speaker 2:
[50:23] What's your favorite Tim McGraw song?

Speaker 3:
[50:26] Well, it probably ended up being a, I mean, I love Just To See You Smile and some of them, a bunch of that early stuff, man, was so good. Don't Take The Girl, obviously.

Speaker 2:
[50:33] Mark Bassler did it?

Speaker 3:
[50:34] Yeah, man. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1:
[50:36] Hold on to that thought. Let's do a couple more of these and then let's get back to this.

Speaker 3:
[50:39] Yeah, lay it on me. Did you say crawling Baton Rouge?

Speaker 1:
[50:52] No, I said calling. Okay, you said calling.

Speaker 3:
[51:04] Um, isn't it? Upright down to my last dime? Oh, this guy's good!

Speaker 1:
[51:10] Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:
[51:11] I thought that was you.

Speaker 1:
[51:12] No, it wasn't.

Speaker 3:
[51:13] Did you get a good noise that time? I feel like I want to be here for the noises.

Speaker 2:
[51:17] Give him the noise again, Ray. Money, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that was him singing.

Speaker 3:
[51:23] Gross. That's a horrible noise. Find a better noise.

Speaker 1:
[51:27] Good job. That was awesome, dude.

Speaker 3:
[51:28] Thanks.

Speaker 1:
[51:29] And I was even of like, man, we're trying to trick him a little bit because it's like regret, forget.

Speaker 3:
[51:32] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[51:34] I thought it was pretty good.

Speaker 3:
[51:35] I've listened to some country songs in my day.

Speaker 1:
[51:39] Can we just play Just To See You Smile? Can we sing that?

Speaker 3:
[51:41] Just to see you smile.

Speaker 1:
[51:44] This is one of my favorite country songs of all time.

Speaker 3:
[53:17] What a melody, man. That's, I think, his, I mean, a lot of people can tell you. Thanks for doing that.

Speaker 1:
[53:23] Sorry to put you on the spot.

Speaker 2:
[53:24] No, I love that.

Speaker 1:
[53:27] So where was music introduced to you? Was it that, just like radio in the truck while you're nuts or whatever?

Speaker 3:
[53:35] One of my, yeah, I mean, a lot of that, I think that's part of what made me love it so much too. Cause as like a lot of little boys, the romantic idea of being a cowboy was cool to me already. And then I got to go watch my dad and all the guys he worked with do it. And I could kind of follow along and try to do it too as a little kid. And so I just loved songs about that. So it was all the old George Strait rodeo songs, stuff like Emeril by Morton was one of my very first favorites. And then Marty Robbins was the other one I remember. My dad had an old blue pickup, still had a tape deck in it and everything. So we had Gunfighter Ballads and Trail Songs with El Paso and Strawberry Roan. I still do pretty much that whole record back to front every word. And that was just all those cowboy songs. And I just loved those. That was my favorite to start with. And then as I kind of got older and stuff, obviously country music is more than just cowboy stuff. But I feel like that's part of what made me fall in love with it so early.

Speaker 2:
[54:46] You know, it's crazy that you're saying that. Because my son loves Marty Robbins.

Speaker 3:
[54:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[54:54] And I have a Tacoma and there's a CD stuck in there that my aunt gave me. And it's a Marty Robbins.

Speaker 3:
[55:02] Really?

Speaker 2:
[55:03] Yeah. And what's crazy is they listen to like Hardy and they love all this new stuff. But when we get in that Tacoma, he's like, hey, can you turn that cowboy stuff on? He's like, I'm in the West, Texas town of El Paso. And he's like, he loves that. And I really started, the songwriter to me was like, why does he love this?

Speaker 3:
[55:24] Sure.

Speaker 2:
[55:25] And I think it comes back to how like playful those melodies are and simple in the sense of like, they all sound like jingles. There's nothing.

Speaker 3:
[55:36] It's like a lullaby. It is like a lullaby, totally.

Speaker 2:
[55:39] That's what Roger Miller did.

Speaker 1:
[55:41] All Roger Miller did was write lullabies. That's what he literally tried to do.

Speaker 3:
[55:45] Lullaby type melodies. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[55:46] It's the wildest thing, man. The way I feel like he had rather listened to that.

Speaker 3:
[55:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[55:53] Even though it's not, he's, I mean, dude, they don't even, they hear a Luke Combs song. They're like, turn it. They've already heard this a hundred times. You know what I mean? Like they don't even.

Speaker 1:
[56:00] Even though it ain't got 808s and synthesizers. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:
[56:03] And they love Morgan and they love all these guys. And they love Dylan Marlowe and they love him, man. But for some reason, he gravitates towards that Marty Robbins. And I think it's because of those melodies.

Speaker 3:
[56:16] I think there's a lot of that. And it just, I mean, you listen to El Paso, it reads, it's like a storybook too. You know, it's the way that it'll, and not just, I mean, a lot of country songwriting is sort of storytelling, but the way that that actually is like just an old Western book. It's an old Western. Just condensed to-

Speaker 2:
[56:35] Thousand percent.

Speaker 3:
[56:36] Yeah, exactly, four minutes.

Speaker 2:
[56:37] Three, four minutes.

Speaker 3:
[56:38] I mean, how do you do that?

Speaker 2:
[56:39] I mean, I've been writing songs for-

Speaker 3:
[56:40] It's impressive, man. It's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[56:41] For 12, 13 years, professionally. And it's like, to get an entire story in a song and it all be cohesive and have a beginning and an end.

Speaker 3:
[56:53] That's a long song, by the way. It'd be too long for radio nowadays.

Speaker 2:
[56:57] How long is that song?

Speaker 3:
[56:58] I think it's over four minutes.

Speaker 2:
[56:59] Oh, is it?

Speaker 3:
[56:59] It's got a bunch of verses to it.

Speaker 2:
[57:00] Yeah, yeah, it definitely does.

Speaker 3:
[57:02] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[57:02] But it's a complete story.

Speaker 3:
[57:03] 100%.

Speaker 2:
[57:04] That might be another reason why he loves it.

Speaker 3:
[57:05] It's hard to, man, it's, there's those type of story things are really cool. You don't see as many of them nowadays, but those things that just, I mean, you follow along in your head like a movie.

Speaker 1:
[57:17] Got the video in your head.

Speaker 3:
[57:18] Yeah, exactly. It's so cool. It's hard to do.

Speaker 2:
[57:20] It's hard to do. It gets done every now and then.

Speaker 3:
[57:22] Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1:
[57:23] I will say, like, going back to just, like, listening to tunes and trucks and growing up that way, like, Jordan, this morning, we were talking, listening to part of your new record, part of your record is out right now, the part of the old record. She was like, Jordan says, she was like, I think, like, why I like Zach so much is just, like, it makes me feel like I'm little riding around in my dad's truck again.

Speaker 3:
[57:46] Yeah. And there's some nostalgia with it.

Speaker 1:
[57:48] There absolutely is nostalgia, but there's also, like, a familiarity with it. Like, you've been there before because all of us that grew up in the South, especially on Chicken Farm or, you know, West Tennessee going hunting or whatever, it's like we were listening to those country music back in that day in the 90s when we were growing up, mid 90s, late 90s. And yeah, man, throwing your music on, and it's obvious that it is, but, like, throwing your music on just takes, it takes me back, man. It takes me back to being a little, you know, seven-year-old in the shotgun of my dad's, you know, Z71 and just riding around listening to those types of tunes, man. There's a familiarity with your music that's very nice. It's very catching to me.

Speaker 3:
[58:28] I appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah, it's a fun, it's a, well, I guess my theory on why I ended up the way I am, or, you know, that my music sounds like that, I feel like I listen to so much of that older stuff. Like, I think people assume I just listen to nothing but 90s stuff. Right. That's not at all, like, later in my life, I've listened to a lot of that, and obviously listened to plenty of it. My parents, like we were just talking about, I listened to a bunch of Tim McGraw and George Strait and Alan Jackson and stuff. But when I was a young kid studying, being a student of the music and learning what I could, it was like I had a dang box set of George Jones CDs from the start, you know, 60s and early 70s stuff. I went through there and learned all my favorite songs off of that. And, you know, that was the kind of stuff I was listening to and fell in love with first. And thought was really cool. And so I feel, you know, so that would have been what Alan Jackson was listening to, you know, George Jones was a big hero of his. So it's kind of, it's, I kind of arrived at the same spot almost as those guys from the same influences just at a different time. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:44] How interesting is that, dude?

Speaker 3:
[59:46] Yeah, it's super cool. It's kind of weird.

Speaker 1:
[59:47] Yeah, that's super cool.

Speaker 3:
[59:48] But.

Speaker 2:
[59:49] Yeah, it's crazy as your dad.

Speaker 3:
[59:50] I know. Have you ever seen him?

Speaker 1:
[59:53] Yeah, he's getting honest.

Speaker 2:
[59:54] Have you ever talked to him?

Speaker 1:
[59:55] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[59:55] Oh yeah. I did not ask him that.

Speaker 2:
[59:57] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[59:58] But no, yeah, we played a few shows with him last year. And I got to meet him at one of them. Just went in there, five minutes, took a couple of pictures. And I'm so bad at interactions with those, most everybody I'm fine around.

Speaker 2:
[60:13] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[60:15] The, those guys that, you know, there's not a whole lot of guys left alive that are really- Yeah. And like really guys that influence me a lot. I know. I'm proud of myself. I'm shaking inside, but-

Speaker 2:
[60:27] I can tell. Look at that part. I'm just a normal guy like you.

Speaker 3:
[60:32] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[60:32] You're that normal guy.

Speaker 3:
[60:33] It's nice to hear that from you.

Speaker 2:
[60:34] One leg at a time.

Speaker 3:
[60:35] That's right. But I'm so horrible. I want to have some sort of cool, regular conversation with somebody like that. But I don't know what I can talk to him about. And so then it's just like, well, then I could just tell you how much I love you and how much your music has changed me. And it's like, yeah, you've heard that three million times before. You don't want to... So then I just end up being like, hey man, nice to meet you.

Speaker 2:
[61:04] I must say this is cool like yours, right?

Speaker 3:
[61:06] Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's hard to... Same way around Vince Gill. And Vince is so freaking nice and so sweet to everybody. He's not like an intimidating person to be around.

Speaker 1:
[61:17] He's awesome.

Speaker 3:
[61:18] But I just don't know what to like say without just being a fangirl.

Speaker 1:
[61:22] Yeah, I botched a meeting with him.

Speaker 3:
[61:24] Really?

Speaker 1:
[61:25] Yeah. I was actually in a charity golf tournament and was gonna talk to him, but he was hitting range balls. And when he looked at me, I was like, can I borrow a couple of those range balls to putt with? That's awesome. I swear, he's like, sure you weirdo. You freaking weirdo.

Speaker 2:
[61:38] Sure freaks.

Speaker 3:
[61:39] We're at a golf, where's your golf balls?

Speaker 1:
[61:40] We're at a freaking golf event.

Speaker 2:
[61:42] Sure you creep ass dude.

Speaker 1:
[61:43] I ended up talking to him later though, he was cool.

Speaker 3:
[61:45] That's awesome.

Speaker 2:
[61:47] Anybody you haven't like really starstruck by? Like that you couldn't even, have you seen anybody?

Speaker 3:
[61:52] I mean, those would be great examples there.

Speaker 2:
[61:54] No George Strait yet or nothing?

Speaker 3:
[61:55] Yeah, I met George a few times. Yeah. And he was definitely the same sort of way. I was like, I don't even know what to say to you. You know, it's like your Amarillo by Mourner was my first favorite song. And so, you know.

Speaker 1:
[62:05] Along with everybody else.

Speaker 3:
[62:06] Right. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, you've heard it from everybody else. I don't know what I'm supposed to say. So it's just like, nice to meet you, George.

Speaker 1:
[62:13] You could sing it to him and it'd be different than everybody else.

Speaker 3:
[62:15] Yeah. He'd love that. He'd love that. I'll tell you, that is my... You want to know a third thing I'm mad at? Yes. When you come up and meet me, please do not sing my song to me. I love meeting everybody and I'll never turn down a picture or sign something or...

Speaker 1:
[62:31] It's gonna be, I never lie.

Speaker 3:
[62:32] Yeah. I never lie. Just walk up and, I sleep like a baby.

Speaker 2:
[62:37] Please.

Speaker 1:
[62:37] Zach, I sleep like a baby.

Speaker 2:
[62:39] Oh, do you, buddy? Do you sleep like a baby?

Speaker 3:
[62:41] It's the worst. It is the worst.

Speaker 2:
[62:43] You know, my favorite.

Speaker 3:
[62:44] And I love them. It's, I mean, it's, it's the, the intention is so good. And they're, it's, they just want, it's just like, I know your song. And it's like, Oh my God, I'm so thankful that you know my song. And all these people do, but it's, oh, that one's tough. And then when they, it's one thing if they just like, I sleep like a baby and then let it go.

Speaker 1:
[63:04] They keep going.

Speaker 3:
[63:04] But then if somebody really feels like they're killing it and give you half the chorus, it just like, I can feel my soul shriveling inside.

Speaker 2:
[63:14] Our favorite thing is when people send us lyrics, you know?

Speaker 3:
[63:17] Oh yeah, like I got us something. Why don't you put a melody to this?

Speaker 1:
[63:20] You know what you should write a song about?

Speaker 2:
[63:21] We love that. We love when people say, hey man, you should write a song about that.

Speaker 3:
[63:27] Yeah. It's pretty, it's funny. I've talked about this with Mike a bunch. I don't know where the line is of like, I kind of want it when people send stuff, you kind of never know when there's going to be that diamond in the rough, so it's like, you kind of do, right.

Speaker 2:
[63:42] It's like, did Mark Nestle send me this? Okay, nevermind.

Speaker 3:
[63:45] Right. But there's also, you know, it's like he had to write his first song at some point too. And somebody saw some, you know, talent there. So it's, I try to listen to some stuff and You should just send your email that way everybody listening can send you all their songs. Here's my phone number if you don't have an email. Text me a voice memo of your song that you recorded. Zach Top Star Search.

Speaker 1:
[64:12] It's Country Music Star.

Speaker 3:
[64:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[64:15] Do you ever miss playing Bluegrass gigs and doing like Carpetry? And do you ever miss like the old life? The old?

Speaker 3:
[64:23] Things about it. I'm really, really happy where I'm at. Yeah. There's obviously stuff that I don't... I feel like Country Music, we get it fairly easy in the fame department, sort of. Like we can go...

Speaker 2:
[64:38] Wait, what? What are you talking about?

Speaker 3:
[64:40] Versus other people, like a movie star or a pop star or something.

Speaker 2:
[64:44] Going to the restaurant. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[64:46] Just still living pretty normally.

Speaker 2:
[64:48] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[64:51] You know, we can go play a show to 20,000 people one night and then go buy bacon at the Kroger the next morning. You don't need to take a security person.

Speaker 2:
[65:01] Some people still do, but you don't need to.

Speaker 3:
[65:03] You don't need to.

Speaker 1:
[65:05] If you went to Bucky's, you probably would.

Speaker 3:
[65:07] Depending on who you are, if you're Lainey Wilson, probably you're going to get bugged. It's different for a guy for sure. And I feel like it's, yeah. And a lot of people just like, sometimes they want to take a picture if they do recognize you in the grocery tour. And then sometimes they're just like, hey, love your music. Thank you. That's a nice way to start my Tuesday.

Speaker 2:
[65:29] I don't want to bother you. I don't ever do this.

Speaker 3:
[65:31] I'm not this guy, but- That's always a good lead in.

Speaker 2:
[65:35] I never do this, but-

Speaker 3:
[65:36] Just ask for a picture. I don't care. I'd love to take a picture with you. Don't explain to me that you don't want to ask for a picture because you're about to ask for a picture.

Speaker 2:
[65:44] It's a layout how someone should approach you if they want a picture with you.

Speaker 3:
[65:51] Oh, just-

Speaker 2:
[65:52] In the wild. You're walking-

Speaker 3:
[65:53] Hey man, love your songs, can I get a picture?

Speaker 2:
[65:55] That's it.

Speaker 3:
[65:56] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[65:56] So you got to do-

Speaker 3:
[65:57] I love shaking people's hands, getting a picture with them. Yeah, start with that. Don't do that. No, I love it. I really never turn down a picture. And I feel like people expect that they're bothering you more than- it's like, it's not that big of a deal. Just don't spend five minutes here telling me how you don't want to bother me while I'm trying to buy eggs.

Speaker 2:
[66:19] While you're bothering me.

Speaker 3:
[66:19] Just say hey and grab a picture. And yeah, sometimes they got a little story they want to share or something. That's nice.

Speaker 2:
[66:25] Get it going. Get it going though.

Speaker 3:
[66:27] Yeah, just I'm glad to meet you.

Speaker 2:
[66:29] Let's get a picture. Don't stretch it out.

Speaker 1:
[66:32] What's been the most surprising part of your life now of like this gig?

Speaker 3:
[66:39] That's a good question.

Speaker 1:
[66:40] Surprising could mean hardest. It could mean-

Speaker 3:
[66:43] Right.

Speaker 1:
[66:43] Right. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[66:43] There's just you can't know. It's funny. Everybody, there's a lot of people older than me that's been around this business a long time that I'm working with. And so they try to warn you and you still don't really like, it's still surprising. I'm trying to think of what would be, what is surprising? What's surprising, Mike?

Speaker 2:
[67:09] Sounds like this question is surprising.

Speaker 3:
[67:11] Yeah, it is. Well, yeah, I've never really thought about what I didn't expect out of it or something. There's all the dreams you have as a kid, hoping someday you get the chance to be a singer and then-

Speaker 2:
[67:23] Did you see yourself doing it? Yeah, what do you see? Did you see yourself meeting Alan Jackson? Did you see yourself having radio hits and big songs and being this like picker? Like you're a bonafide country picker now, dude. You're in with like Chet and Vince and-

Speaker 3:
[67:38] I'm not going to put myself in that class.

Speaker 2:
[67:40] I know you're not. You don't have to. You don't have to because the rest of us will do it, man. But honestly, you're a real life picker.

Speaker 1:
[67:47] And in country music right now too, like you're kind of like, you're kind of the man of what you do, you know? I mean, you're the Zach Top.

Speaker 2:
[67:57] I think in 10 years, I think in 5 to 10 years, it'll be like, yeah, Brad Paisley, Keith Urban, Zach Top.

Speaker 1:
[68:03] Same.

Speaker 2:
[68:04] I mean, you're that guy, man. Plus, you're a Telecaster. Aren't you?

Speaker 3:
[68:09] I try. I'm a lot better at this than I am at Telecaster. I didn't ever start playing at Telecaster except that I couldn't afford to pay one. So I made myself learn to do it for a few years. The funny thing for me, when I was really little, all I wanted to do was play. I loved my teacher. The first stuff I was hearing, George Strait, Marty Robbins, stuff like that, I wanted to learn those songs. But then when I got to be eight or nine years old, all I cared about was playing guitar. So I was just trying to copy every Tony Rice lick I could find.

Speaker 2:
[68:42] Do you play church street blues?

Speaker 3:
[68:44] I don't get it, dude. I can't get the rhythm. I can't get the... How the rhythm falls?

Speaker 2:
[68:51] I can't get it, dude. I just can't get it.

Speaker 3:
[68:53] Tony was one of a kind of real stylist.

Speaker 2:
[68:58] Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 3:
[68:59] Yeah, but yeah, that was all... So I spent probably three hours a day, I feel like, most every day for five years, you know, from eight to 13. All I cared about doing was playing guitar. I'd sit down there and learn every song I could find on CDs and tapes that my mom and dad had. And it was, yeah, that was all I cared about. And I kind of just sang because it was like, well, I like this song and I want to play guitar to it. So I suppose I should sing it too. And then, you know, got to be... Once I kind of like got through puberty, then I started really paying attention to my singing.

Speaker 2:
[69:42] Yeah, how you sounded.

Speaker 3:
[69:43] Yeah, yeah, kind of. But anyway, yeah, I feel like there's a lot less of that now. I mean, it's hard to not be where the culture is. I heard somebody smart say culture is downstream from technology and they had a very smart explanation for it. I want to say it was, shoot, who's that? He's a comedian. Jimmy Carr, right? Is that a British?

Speaker 1:
[70:09] Jimmy Carr was a president.

Speaker 3:
[70:10] Well, I know Carter. I said Carr. I might be butchering that. Anyway, he was talking to Tom Segura. I know he was on there. But they were talking about cultures downstream from technology. So what technology is doing determines a lot of the way we interact with the world and society. So right now, the example of that is kids get on TikTok when they're five years old and all they see is stuff on TikTok and well, I guess this is what everybody's doing. I'm gonna try and do this. There's not a ton of motivation to like, hey, you should go lock yourself in your bedroom for 15 years and try to master playing an instrument. I think there's another, I listen to a lot of podcasts.

Speaker 2:
[71:07] Obviously, not ours because he had never heard that.

Speaker 1:
[71:09] Cool though.

Speaker 3:
[71:09] I wasn't ready for the question.

Speaker 2:
[71:10] He had no idea what the question was.

Speaker 3:
[71:11] My bad, cool though. I heard another, Two Bears, One Cave reference here, Matthew McConaughey was on there and he was talking about, no, he wasn't, he was talking to Theo Von. He was talking about, we don't, we're, we have a tendency to live life in the third person these days. I thought this was one of the most brilliant things that I had heard in a long time. We used to do something just for the love of doing it. You go, you hike a mountain and you do it and you get up there and you just look around and see everything and you walk back down and that's it. And then cameras came along and so now-

Speaker 1:
[71:56] And you used to tell people about it. You would tell the story.

Speaker 3:
[71:58] Right, you can tell the story, right, describe it. You really had to take in like, if you wanted to tell the story, you got to pay attention, you got to be living in that moment.

Speaker 2:
[72:07] Good point.

Speaker 3:
[72:07] And then cameras came along and so then you could do something for the love of it and then you could capture the memory sort of to look back on later days. And then the cameras became the phones that you just have nonstop and so then you can just capture anything. And then you said, you know, beyond that, we're not just doing something to do it and capture the memory. Now, the better, the bigger dopamine hit is doing it just to post it and get the reactions and the affirmation from the people that are, you know, will tell you how great you are.

Speaker 2:
[72:44] It has nothing to even do about the event.

Speaker 1:
[72:45] You're putting yourself in the picture now.

Speaker 3:
[72:47] Right. I see it. It's so interesting. I feel like I've been harping on my fans in this podcast or something. I don't mean it to come across like that. But like, you know, at shows and stuff, where you'll see some of the people that just have their phone up for half the show. It's like, I'm sorry to break it to you. Nobody wants to see your Snapchat story with the terrible audio that your phone is gonna capture. Like, you're not gonna look back at that. I get grabbing a little clip, a little video, but like when you do it for a majority of the show, you're not even watching the show. You're watching me through your phone screen, which you can do nonstop anyway. Right. See something in real life and love it. Yeah. It's a funny, there's, and I'm very guilty of it too. It's nice to have affirmation and I understand why it's a thing, but there's something magical about it if you can get rid of that thing.

Speaker 1:
[73:52] Live in the moment, man.

Speaker 3:
[73:53] Yeah. Try to soak in every detail of what's happening around you and just live, whatever it is, if you're at a show, if you're on a, whatever, if you're fishing, whatever, and just really soak it all in and try to take mental pictures of it to where you could relive that sort of memory rather than flip back through a picture and your phone of it.

Speaker 2:
[74:16] I wonder if we're training ourselves to like not remember things because we're so determined to catch it.

Speaker 3:
[74:24] I bet there's gotta be, yeah, some, some, right, versus like, right, when you just, oh my God, this is so amazing. I can't believe I'm getting to do this. I'm going to soak in every detail so I can remember this versus now. It's just like, yeah, it's cool. I'm at a concert. I'm going to take some videos and take some pictures, you know, and then, right. I can post it on my Instagram story and people will think I'm awesome. Cause I was at the Morgan Wallen concert.

Speaker 2:
[74:46] I'll tell you, man, I recognized it when we were at that Monster Jam. We all, we took our, we all have young kids and we took them on a Monster Jam. And there were people, there were parents in front of us with their cameras, like filmed the entire two and a half, three hours. And we were there just, and like not even seeing their kids like enjoy the trucks jumping up in the air and getting excited. They were so focused on filming that so that they could either put it on YouTube to try to get some stuff or try, but you could tell it was like, it was a job. It was not like for fun or whatever. Meanwhile, their kids are like having the time of their lives, but they're not even interacting with them because they're just...

Speaker 3:
[75:30] I think you miss out on a lot when you... I mean, you think about a lot of the population, like what they... The percentage of time that they're viewing the world through whatever they're videoing on their phone. It's like, you're not actually...

Speaker 1:
[75:44] Not even yours.

Speaker 3:
[75:45] Yeah, you're living in that person. Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 1:
[75:49] Hey, Cold Beer and Country Music Headline Tours continuing this summer. You got guys like Marcus King and Lucas Nelson coming on.

Speaker 3:
[75:56] Yeah, Marty Stewart. I'm pumped, man. This is very exciting for me just to have some other guys that I feel like are a big deal. Like Marcus King was...

Speaker 1:
[76:10] Monster.

Speaker 3:
[76:10] Yeah. I had nothing going on and everybody knew about Marcus King already. So I've looked up to him for so long.

Speaker 1:
[76:16] That's cool.

Speaker 3:
[76:17] And do just have so much respect for him musically as a player, singer. I mean, he is...

Speaker 1:
[76:22] He's salted earth dude too.

Speaker 3:
[76:23] Yeah. So nice. So nice. And yeah, so excited to get to share the stage with him. Marty, obviously, you know, he's been around killing it forever and still killing it. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[76:38] You think he'll wear a scarf in the summer?

Speaker 3:
[76:40] I hope so.

Speaker 2:
[76:42] Like summer scarves?

Speaker 3:
[76:43] Yeah. A lightweight... A linen one.

Speaker 1:
[76:46] A linen one.

Speaker 2:
[76:46] A tank top like a linen scarf.

Speaker 1:
[76:48] Just one wrap. Not double wrap.

Speaker 3:
[76:50] Don't double wrap that.

Speaker 2:
[76:52] He is great.

Speaker 3:
[76:53] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[76:55] He's great.

Speaker 3:
[76:55] I'm pumped about that. It's a funny position to be in where we did, the first time I felt it, played a festival with Travis Tritt and he was on right before us. We were last. Another monster.

Speaker 2:
[77:09] Hey, also, closet picker.

Speaker 3:
[77:12] He can pick. He can play, man. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[77:13] Absolutely. There's some of those guys that fly under the radar.

Speaker 3:
[77:16] Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2:
[77:16] He's one of them.

Speaker 3:
[77:17] 100%. But he just killed it and it struck me as I was staying there side stage watching his whole set. It's like, you should not be playing before me. Let's see if Phil's wrong. That's how I feel about them guys, Marcus and Marty and stuff.

Speaker 2:
[77:33] Okay. God rest his soul, Joe Diffie. I feel like when we saw Diffie late in his life, he had lost a little bit of a step, right? Which is fine. I mean, that happens, right? Do you feel like those guys have lost, had Travis Strait lost a step?

Speaker 3:
[77:52] I mean, you're not going to be the same as you are when you're 30. 30. Listen to Merle Haggard, arguably one of the greatest singers of all time. He didn't sound the same when he was 60 as when he did when he was 30. But there's still that magic there. I would say Travis has not lost a step. It sounds significantly different than when he was 25, but it's not losing a step. Guys that got it that good, I don't think lose it. You know, same thing, Hank Williams Jr. He don't sound the same as, but he still got the Hank Jr. thing. You're going to, you can't not pay attention.

Speaker 2:
[78:28] Like Marty, I don't feel like that cat's lost a step at all.

Speaker 3:
[78:31] No, he may be gaining steps in the last two decades. No, he's awesome, man. He's the Marty Party I love. Every time he, anytime he comes on the shuffle or something, I was like, let's go with some Marty Party now. Yeah, just, you know, even beyond his music, he's got such a persona around him. He's such a character.

Speaker 2:
[78:51] He's so cool, man.

Speaker 3:
[78:52] Yeah, he's so cool.

Speaker 2:
[78:54] He's built it.

Speaker 3:
[78:54] There's some of those guys that like somehow they do, they do this wild edgy stuff. If I tried to do it, it would be just like, oh my God, this guy's trying too hard. And then some people just ask who they are and they pull it off. It's like, oh my God, that's way cooler than I'll ever be.

Speaker 2:
[79:11] I bet Skaggs is still smoking, dude.

Speaker 3:
[79:13] Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[79:14] I don't think you ever lose that.

Speaker 2:
[79:15] That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:
[79:16] You don't wake up and you don't remember how to do that.

Speaker 3:
[79:18] Singers that are, yeah, that real singers don't, you know, it's the same thing. Listen to those, playing those shows with Jackson, Alan Jackson. Oh yeah. It doesn't sound the same. It's the notes aren't always hit as perfect as, but that thing is still there. The thing is still there. Yeah, man. And I love, a lot of guys are great, great singers. As they get older, voice gets like deeper and richer, and it's amazing. I hope my voice age is well like that. It's like, listen to from now on, all my friends are gonna be strangers. Merle Haggard sounds like he's 22 in that. I think he was somewhere. He might've been 30, but anyway. One of the first, I think that was the first hit he had on radio. And then you hear him saying, that's the way love goes or something. It's like, oh, this guy's really, you know, he always had it, but it's like something about, they get a little older, and something about it makes you feel more.

Speaker 1:
[80:17] You hear some of that life in there.

Speaker 3:
[80:18] Yeah, exactly. Exactly. There's more to them, I guess. They've lived more.

Speaker 2:
[80:22] If we make it through December, always just, that one tears me apart.

Speaker 3:
[80:26] There's not many bad ones.

Speaker 2:
[80:27] There's not.

Speaker 3:
[80:28] I think I just discovered, or did not discover, but realized the other day, I think I'd like to make an argument that the best Merle Haggard record ever made is Back to the Barrooms. I don't think, if you, you know, it doesn't have Fight Inside of Me on there or Mama Tried or, you know, you gotta make arguments for those records that we, but Back to the Barrooms has Back to the Barrooms, which is great. Makeup and Faded Blue Jeans. I Don't Want to Sober Up Tonight. Can't Quit the Habit. It's got, what's the, Stay Here and Drink is on there.

Speaker 2:
[81:12] Oh, that's the big one of that record, probably. That's for commercial success.

Speaker 3:
[81:15] Yeah, right, right. But the songs on that thing, and then that dang, Strait covered it later. Dang, I gotta pull it up. The track list on this thing is so good.

Speaker 2:
[81:27] Kinda wish I knew so I could flex, but I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[81:29] I know. I wish I could say it and be cool right now.

Speaker 3:
[81:32] I wish I had remembered it.

Speaker 1:
[81:33] If I was a cow guy, if I was a cow guy.

Speaker 3:
[81:36] Cow guys know this record.

Speaker 2:
[81:37] Cow guys know this record. Cow guys don't cry.

Speaker 1:
[81:40] This will get you a lifetime cow guy hat.

Speaker 3:
[81:41] Cow guys don't cry. Oh, here it is.

Speaker 2:
[81:44] It should have been a cow guy.

Speaker 3:
[81:47] Change everything. Change everyone. Oh, Misery and Gin. That's the other, I mean, you know.

Speaker 1:
[81:54] How did I know?

Speaker 3:
[81:54] I should have known that. Ever Changing Woman, y'all know that? Hold that Ever Changing Woman in my arms.

Speaker 2:
[82:00] Misery and Gin, dude.

Speaker 1:
[82:01] Cool.

Speaker 3:
[82:02] Here's the one I was trying to come up with was Our Paths May Never Cross. But our paths may never cross. Leonard is on there, and then I don't have any more love songs. I don't have any more love songs.

Speaker 2:
[82:17] We're already way over, dude. But we gotta do a Merle Haggard song. Just something.

Speaker 3:
[82:22] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[82:23] Let's do Merle Haggard into Gravert. Just a Merle Haggard into Gravert.

Speaker 3:
[82:27] Well, it could probably just be the same thing.

Speaker 1:
[82:30] Let's do that.

Speaker 2:
[82:31] Let your Gravert be a Merle. I mean, Misery Gin, dude.

Speaker 3:
[82:35] That's a hard one to beat. Let's do that one right there. I'm going to break something.

Speaker 1:
[82:39] We can come back and we can do this again.

Speaker 3:
[82:41] Yeah, there's so much we got a lot more to talk about.

Speaker 1:
[82:42] Yeah, we got a ton to talk about. Just do a bunch of songs, dude. And we'll call it the Great Rip. Just do a full show.

Speaker 3:
[82:49] Just do five. Yeah. How does it start? Dude, yeah, that thing is so good. Oh, my gosh, this is so good. Thanks, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2:
[84:37] I feel like I was listening to the record right there a little bit. Besides that one buzz note.

Speaker 3:
[84:42] Yeah, I keep on, I don't, usually I play it out of C, but I didn't think I could get up there this morning.

Speaker 1:
[84:49] I love it. When you started singing, like all the, all that Zach Top thing you do on the end of those lines, was that something that has always been there, or somebody you listened to that did that, or just kind of like, was it something that you wanted to do?

Speaker 3:
[85:06] I think there's a lot of just like amalgamation of a lot of different guys. What they did, I mean, obviously Whitley was probably the biggest influence on my singing. And he did a lot of those, you know, licks and runs and stuff. But yeah, I mean, it's all them guys, George Jones, you know, obviously licked to death when he sang it.

Speaker 1:
[85:28] So good, man. It's so good.

Speaker 3:
[85:31] Yeah, and you get like Gary Stewart had some interesting, different sound and stuff too. Just different moves he would, you know, that he had that made him a lot different from everybody.

Speaker 2:
[85:42] Heavily bluegrass influence too.

Speaker 3:
[85:44] Yeah, for sure, for sure. I freaking loved, you know, old Stanley Brothers stuff. Carter Stanley, I think was, had one of the nicest tones to his singing voice. Tony Rice had a cool singing voice. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Just a lot of guys I loved and tried to copy them for a long time and somehow stumbled around and fell.

Speaker 1:
[86:07] You got people copying you. You got people copying you now.

Speaker 2:
[86:10] Man, RIP Tony Rice, dude. That guy. All right.

Speaker 1:
[86:13] We got time for a great, we actually have time for nothing, but Grave Red. Let's get one more, one more song.

Speaker 2:
[86:19] We're just making it.

Speaker 1:
[86:20] I know we got like, we got him in here.

Speaker 3:
[86:22] We got him in here.

Speaker 2:
[86:23] So we're just like, total request live.

Speaker 3:
[87:19] And I had to tell her.

Speaker 1:
[89:44] You're insane, dude.

Speaker 2:
[89:46] Dude.

Speaker 3:
[89:48] I appreciate it.

Speaker 2:
[89:49] That was special.

Speaker 1:
[89:50] No doubt, man.

Speaker 2:
[89:50] That was special, dude. Thanks for doing that. I'm sorry to put you on the spot.

Speaker 1:
[89:54] I know, I love it. You're a killer, man.

Speaker 3:
[89:56] I love it.

Speaker 1:
[89:57] Hey, Takova's giving you a little gift for coming on the show, man.

Speaker 2:
[90:00] Oh, thank you, Takova.

Speaker 3:
[90:00] We're gonna have you a little pack with some-

Speaker 2:
[90:02] I'll tell you what, we're not gonna-

Speaker 1:
[90:03] Some Tacticams and some knives and meter pros.

Speaker 2:
[90:06] I love it. You're not gonna make what you would make on a regular show, but we'll pay you in gunner kennels to cut those meters and trail cameras.

Speaker 1:
[90:13] Some trail cameras and then meters.

Speaker 3:
[90:15] That's beautiful.

Speaker 1:
[90:17] Man, is that top, everybody? I don't even have to say go swimming. You're gonna go see them and they're gonna go listen to your music. Hey, listen, you're a gem.

Speaker 3:
[90:23] Check out the website for the- do a shameless plug for the tour. Should be on sale by the time this comes out. Yeah, beautiful. zachtop.com/tour.

Speaker 2:
[90:32] There you go. You're a diamond in this town. Bro, thank you for being here. It's an honor, man.

Speaker 3:
[90:36] Thank you all very much for having me. It's an honor.

Speaker 1:
[90:38] Thanks for hooking it up back there. Thanks for listening to the podcast. Zach Top, everybody. We'll check you out next time. See ya. Cheers. You ever tasted Freedom?

Speaker 2:
[91:00] Indeed.

Speaker 1:
[91:00] You know what it tastes like?

Speaker 2:
[91:02] It tastes like real American beer. Full flavor beer made right here in the US of A, and it comes in two ways to crush it.

Speaker 1:
[91:09] Real American beer, Light, is light beer turned all the way up to 11. It's got a cold crack, a clean finish, and it's only 99 calories. When it's beer o'clock, it's real American beer light.

Speaker 2:
[91:22] Yeah, and when it's not beer o'clock, it's real American beer zero that brings the same beer energy, just without the alcohol, nothing watered down, nothing toned back. When it's not beer o'clock, it's zero o'clock, baby.

Speaker 1:
[91:33] However you show up, real American beer is always 200% American.