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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[00:32] All right, at least I don't do crystal meth in the bathroom all night long. That's my opinion.

Speaker 1:
[00:37] He will never emotionally fulfill you. Because I don't want to be a part of this.

Speaker 2:
[00:40] Go to sleep.

Speaker 1:
[00:41] Go to sleep.

Speaker 2:
[00:41] Close your legs to marry me in trash box.

Speaker 1:
[00:45] I'll tell you how I'm doing.

Speaker 2:
[00:46] Not well, bitch. Hold on. Check me out.

Speaker 1:
[00:51] Welcome to Morally Corrupt. I'm Rachel Lindsay. She's Chelsea Stark Jones. Let's get into it.

Speaker 2:
[00:58] No, Rachel, Rachel, we're not getting into anything because it is your birthday.

Speaker 1:
[01:04] Oh, that's really sweet. I really do like all the attention on me on my birthday.

Speaker 2:
[01:09] It is your birthday.

Speaker 1:
[01:10] I was just kidding when I tried to move the podcast on.

Speaker 2:
[01:13] And we have to celebrate our queen, Rachel. Our birthday queen.

Speaker 1:
[01:18] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[01:19] Our Morally Corrupt birthday queen.

Speaker 1:
[01:23] Hold on, let me make sure this got in my wig. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 2:
[01:25] There we go.

Speaker 1:
[01:26] Just shift it a little bit.

Speaker 2:
[01:28] Happy birthday.

Speaker 1:
[01:29] Thank you so much.

Speaker 2:
[01:31] Another year wiser. How are we feeling? I feel good.

Speaker 1:
[01:35] You know, this feels like more of a reflective birthday because the last couple ones, I feel like I've tried to do the most. The first, like the one when I turned, well, I mean, you know how old I am.

Speaker 2:
[01:46] It's out there, but we don't need to keep reminding people. I love it.

Speaker 1:
[01:49] I love it. I love when I'm like, oh, this is how old I am. And people are like, really? But the first birthday after my divorce or separation, I feel like this is going to pop off my head, which will be funny. But the first birthday, I just felt like I was still in that anger space. So I just felt like I needed to show that I am okay, which I never am like, let me post this to film. But I was in that space. Let me throw this big birthday party and show everybody that I'm okay and I'm fine. And it was so much fun. It was a Cowboy Carter party, which manifested in several ways. And then I didn't want to do anything for 40. And my friend was like, no, I'm throwing you something at my house. And so it was cool. It's whatever. But for 41, maybe it's just a little bit more quiet, reflective. I'm in a totally different place than I've been in the last two years. So yeah. But feeling blessed.

Speaker 2:
[02:45] Yes, as you should.

Speaker 1:
[02:46] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[02:47] Happy birthday. We love you.

Speaker 1:
[02:48] Thank you. Love you too. Well, before we get into our Bravo News, enough about me. I mean, I've been the news. But before we get into our Bravo News, a word from our sponsor. This episode is presented by Too Good and Co. Creamer. So I love hot coffee. But whether you enjoy your coffee hot, cold, bold, or frothy, I got to tell you, Too Good Creamers make every sip a good one because they're made with farm fresh cream, real milk, and contain three grams of sugar per serving. That's 40 percent less than the five grams per serving in leading traditional coffee creamers, which makes for a rich, creamy, and delicious experience. Find Too Good Creamers in the Creamer Isle. Okay. First up, Summer House. Now, because it's my birthday and I can do what I want to, I don't want to talk about Summer House that much or at least lead the conversation. Because I just know there's so much more to go.

Speaker 2:
[03:49] It's a marathon.

Speaker 1:
[03:51] And can I just say, I was really thinking about this and thinking about how I was going to talk about this on our show today. And I was like, why does this feel so different from Scandival? With Scandival, there was, and I don't mean to like, I don't benefit from people's pain. But there was such like, oh my gosh, I can't believe this happened. But then it felt like it happened. That was the story. And we were just like, we want to see Ariana move on and thrive. We don't want to see Raquel go off, heal yourself. And Tom Sandoval, you suck and you always have. But with this, and maybe because, this was me thinking about this all in my head, and I'm curious to what you think. Maybe because with that, we've really had all the answers. We knew when they started, we knew how they felt about each other. They were open, according to Tom, they loved each other, they wanted to make it work. I got that hot mic moment at the end of the reunion. We also found out maybe the reunion was about to happen, so there wasn't this long wait, it wasn't mid-season. So it all just felt very quick, where this seems to be so drawn out. There's so many unknowns that it just feels like it's weighing so much, I'm exhausted.

Speaker 2:
[05:08] So I actually think the timeline of Scandival and West Side Story is pretty similar as to when this news came out. And I do think to your point, the biggest difference is with Scandival. We had Sheena, Lala, any Vanderpump person that had a podcast was talking about it on the podcast. Any third, fourth degree person in the story spoke about it. So we were able to piece things together and we were watching along and catching things and stuff like that. With this, all we have gotten is two bogus Instagram statements from West and Amanda and the other one from Amanda and Ciara's glamour article. To which she says a lot of things that we could assume that she was going to say. And that's about it. I think even one response that she had, she was asked if she has spoken to Amanda and she said it to a minimal, but I'm going to save that for the reunion. So it's like, I don't know if this is Bravo PR kind of controlling the narrative or if this is just a Summer House cast in general being like, we'll let Ciara tell her side when she's ready. But they're not as chatty about this as the Vanderpump people were.

Speaker 1:
[06:28] Oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2:
[06:29] And like that I think is what made Scandival feel a little bit more fun.

Speaker 1:
[06:36] But wasn't this wasn't the scandal before like the reunion? I feel like we didn't watch a whole season.

Speaker 2:
[06:42] We were, gosh, it happened.

Speaker 1:
[06:44] Or maybe the season happened after because remember they picked the cameras up.

Speaker 2:
[06:47] They did pick cameras up, but it happened. Like remember when they went to Joshua Tree for one for the for the boys birthday? Was it for the boys birthday? I think it was for the Tom for Tom's birthday or something. I thought they went to Joshua's Tree and, or no, it's for Raquel's birthday. They went to Joshua Tree. They bought her like these sunglasses. And like we were watching it like through that lens of, oh wait, they were hooking up at this. Or they just started hooking up at this time. So like we were going through like similar to how things are with Summer House of like, why did Amanda say look at my butt when she walks away? Like, was she like flirting with him? Like we were, we had that eye with Scandival, but I just feel like because they talked, like it filled this dead air period so much better. And like, yeah, we're stuck with having to see Amanda and Wes going to a Yankees game. And like this girl who notoriously wants to be inside is now outside all the time. And it just is making me feel like this is put on.

Speaker 1:
[07:51] Oh, it feels like that for sure.

Speaker 2:
[07:52] It's just so put on, the them being at the Yankees game. It wasn't a kiss cam. I don't believe it was them on the Jumbotron. This was them in the broadcast. And like, I'm sorry. I have to believe that their PR was like, this is where they're sitting. Like, how in all of Yankees stadium are you gonna have the camera in the broadcast focus on the two most notorious people online right now? Like, and then the kiss, that like weird kiss, like it was just so bizarre. And like, I forget what everyone's saying that she might act like you like me. It's definitely what she was mouthing or said in the, in the, what the lip readers are saying. I just, my prediction is they're gonna show up to the reunion together.

Speaker 1:
[08:37] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[08:38] They will be seated together.

Speaker 1:
[08:40] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[08:41] And they will break up two to three weeks after the reunion airs. They will break up. They will stop seeing each other. I don't think, I think they're trying to hold on for as long as they possibly can.

Speaker 1:
[08:54] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[08:55] But I don't foresee this happening much longer. I don't know how this is gonna fare for Summer House. I really don't even know who I want to see back in the Summer House. But I just don't see it.

Speaker 1:
[09:05] Well, there's just no way. I was looking at the timeline and you're, it was about March 3rd, I guess, they had finished filming the season. They picked up the cameras back for season 10 to get that, to get that, but they were done. So when we watched the next season, it was after, where as opposed to when we got their information, we weren't watching, I guess, anymore.

Speaker 2:
[09:33] We were watching. For Scandival? We were watching. Season 10 was airing. Season 10 was airing.

Speaker 1:
[09:38] Okay, fuck, I give you so much.

Speaker 2:
[09:39] It's a fever dream. It's a fever dream. Season 10 was airing and we were like midway or maybe a little bit like, yeah, we were midway through because they hadn't filmed the reunion yet.

Speaker 1:
[09:50] You're right. You're right.

Speaker 2:
[09:50] And then they filmed the reunion, Rihanna. Rihanna is in that revenge dress, the red revenge dress.

Speaker 1:
[09:56] So it's about three weeks.

Speaker 2:
[09:57] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[09:57] It was beginning of March, which is crazy. It was March too when this popped off and then it ended with the reunion. So like about three weeks later, they taped the reunion. We didn't see it. But yeah, to your point, it's the unknowns. It's the more people are involved. Even though they're quiet.

Speaker 2:
[10:15] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[10:16] Like Kyle, Amanda, West and Ciara. It doesn't feel, not that I believe Tom and Raquel, but it just, it was wild. But this one is, there were, like you said, people who actually were privy to the experience at all, we're talking, whereas we're, DuMois pretty much a cast member at this. We're getting so much on the rumor mill. Even cast members are calling things out. People are saying conflicting things. That's why I think for me, I'm like, all right, let's just get to the reunion. But the reunion has to tape. And then we have to watch it over two to three weeks, depending on how many parts that they do. So we're really not going to get anything until the second week in May. To your question, I think that Wes does not come back to the Summer House because everybody seems to dislike him. And there's the rumor about Summer House Ozarks, which is directly linked to him. Amanda's got in the city. And now we have, he has Summer House Ozark. So I think that...

Speaker 2:
[11:22] Bye.

Speaker 1:
[11:23] You know.

Speaker 2:
[11:23] Yeah, I mean, I hope so. I know we're going to talk a little bit more about that in the rumor report. But I just, yeah, I just, I don't, I'm not over it. I just, I want to hear more. I want to hear the timeline. I want to see Amanda repent. I want to see what her demeanor is like, because seeing her at these like events, events at the game, at the bar and stuff like that, it just, she just really is the person I thought she was. And it's hard for me to like, to watch her and just, and that statement with the dog in the background and the, if you see me out, it's still weighing heavy on my mind. And it's like, is it?

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[12:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[12:07] And me out and about. But you know what? We don't, the reason Amanda was able to skate by is because Kyle sucked up so much energy. We focused on the way Kyle responded to Amanda and Kyle's actions towards Amanda more than, but if you really think about it, we don't really know Amanda. We don't know Amanda's background that much. We don't know if, I don't even know if she really has siblings. I don't really know her story. Whereas like Paige always talks about her mom and how even when I remember she came that first season, she was like, they still think I'm a virgin. But like all of those things, the tight knit close family that she grew up in, how big her mom was in her life. Like the main thing I remember about Amanda's family is that they signed a contract with Kyle that if he cheats or whatever messes up, he has to pay them back.

Speaker 2:
[12:52] For the wedding, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[12:54] We really don't know Amanda. We know Amanda attached to Kyle. And that's like a really big thing. And so, you know, it was easy to move past that Kyle was so problematic that there was no need to really be like, but you know what, I don't really know Amanda. You just felt sorry for her.

Speaker 2:
[13:11] Yeah. She was pitiful. She was pitiful. She still is pitiful. Speaking of Kyle, a few things. Him responding to Andy, Kyle is relishing in this too. I feel like he's enjoying this to an extent. I feel like he's going to have a lot of smoke for West because he commented to Andy's question about like, oh, the reunion's coming up. Send me your questions. And Kyle says, well, is there any penalties for lying on Watch What Happens Live? Which I believe is a direct response to West lying when confronted about seeing Amanda. How do you think Kyle is going to come in to the reunion?

Speaker 1:
[13:56] I hope he's sitting next to Ciara.

Speaker 2:
[13:59] I think that's a good call.

Speaker 1:
[14:00] And I mean, I want Mia sitting next to her too. But like, I kind of want Kyle. I want them facing them.

Speaker 2:
[14:06] Yeah, it should be Andy, Andy, Amanda, Ciara, West, Kyle.

Speaker 1:
[14:14] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[14:14] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[14:15] And like I again, there's so many things I'm afraid of. I do think Kyle is going to be very vocal, but I do think Kyle is going to try to be middle ground because he'll say one thing on social and then he'll be like, well, that's not really what I meant. And I think he's going to be very much so not victim like, but just this really hurt. This has been really shocking. I'm still trying to figure it out. I don't want people to be onto a man. Like he's really more anti-West and Ciara is anti-Amanda. I do, West cannot get away with being a mute again. And I really hope Ciara or Kyle or Mia, cause Mia is with it. And even KJ, KJ has a diss track out right now. KJ, I mean, I'm like, that's his, they've known each other for a long time. I mean, I hope one of them is like, well, you had all the words for Amanda when she needed it. So I'm gonna need you to dig up and find the words here. Like you don't get to hide behind the silence. Like you need to talk, cause we've now seen you use your words. We've now seen you profess your love on screen. We know. So this shtick isn't working. Somebody said, and I didn't check up to follow, but I saw this before we got on, that Amanda unfollowed Ciara.

Speaker 2:
[15:24] Oh, let's see.

Speaker 1:
[15:25] I don't know if that's true. I'd also like to know.

Speaker 2:
[15:27] Well, I think Ciara blocked them.

Speaker 1:
[15:29] Anything that surprised you about Ciara's glamour? Glamour?

Speaker 2:
[15:33] No. No. She said, like I said, I feel like everything she said was, she didn't get too dirty. I hope she's saving some of that for the reunion. But yeah, like again, this was done before the reunion. I'm sure Bravo PR had to approve everything.

Speaker 1:
[15:56] Sure.

Speaker 2:
[15:56] So they're not gonna let anything slip that's gonna be, that they're saving all the good stuff for the reunion.

Speaker 1:
[16:02] They had to give her a moment, but like, give me a close up. I'm gonna need Ciara. I don't care about any kind of stereotypes or any kind of tropes that are unnecessarily placed on black women. I don't need you to go scorched earth like Ariana, but I'm gonna need you to like come with it. I want you, Ciara, to be locked and loaded, ready to pew pew, as the Midnight Boys would say. I need you to be, I know you'll be ready, but like, I don't want any of it, because I know it's like an unfair burden that is placed on black women with how we're perceived. It's like, it's probably why you're so beloved, because you take the high ground, and I have ops at this point, when it comes to masturbation. But you were wronged, and you were wronged in a very public way. And because of that, you deserve to speak your mind in whatever way you want, and not have to worry about the feelings of anybody else's, except your own. I want you when the reunion ends, for you to have left it all on the floor, and you can walk away, because that's when the healing will really begin. That's what kind of sucks. Like, I complain about how exhausted I am, we're tired of talking about it. But imagine how they feel. I'm sure every time you open up your phone, whatever it has to do, or social media, it has to do with this information. And that's overwhelming. You can't move forward if we're all still talking about it.

Speaker 2:
[17:29] You know what? As you were going on about how Ciara is being this black woman, this is, like, I'm really, this is a stretch. But, like, the only thing I could think of is, like, she is representing every black woman that has ever been wronged in this moment. And I thought of Barack Obama being the first black president, Doug Williams being the first black quarterback to be, to be a Super Bowl-winning quarterback. And I'm like, Ciara, we need you. You're representing us in this moment.

Speaker 1:
[17:59] I will disagree in the sense that you're right. That is how people will perceive it.

Speaker 2:
[18:03] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[18:04] And that is unfair.

Speaker 2:
[18:05] It is. It's a burden.

Speaker 1:
[18:07] You are not representing, you are representing Ciara who was wronged by her ex-friend and her ex-lover, and you only have to care about your feelings in this moment because that is going to be a part of your healing process. But to your point, the burden is that you are representing so many people because there are black women in general, because you are the only black woman in this space. Well, not now with Mia, but you know what I mean, she was the first in the Summer House space. And so people will look at you as representative of the culture in that sector as a whole, which is unfair. However, if they go low, because they already did. Ciara, they already went low.

Speaker 2:
[18:49] I just got like...

Speaker 1:
[18:50] You don't have to go lower, but you can just like tap your toe in it and back, because like you can't get as low as they get.

Speaker 2:
[18:57] No, you can't. But like a thing that I think she will do well, and hopefully she has a good team around her too, of like helping her get ready for this, is just to be smart and cunning. Like just like sharp jabs. It doesn't have to be like, go f yourself with a she's greater. We don't need that. We don't need that. We don't want that. I loved it in the moment, but we don't need it anymore. But she could say things that are just like, ooh, like sneaky shade, daggers. Like, you're too smart for this. Like she could, I think she'll get it.

Speaker 1:
[19:36] Yeah, yeah, like you're above it. The theme, and I said this before on another podcast, the theme is, I'm not mad at you. I feel sorry for you. Yes. That's the whole energy.

Speaker 2:
[19:45] And that hurts.

Speaker 1:
[19:47] I feel sorry for you.

Speaker 2:
[19:48] That hurts.

Speaker 1:
[19:50] And like, you don't even have to be like, watch what I do. Cause the thing, res, it's the loquatura. I think that's how you say it in Latin. It's a legal term. The thing speaks for itself. So like, I'm not mad cause that takes too much energy. And I can't do that because I have to prepare for my next cover shoot. I can't do that cause I got too many opportunities to go, okay? I can't lose any sleep over this. But I do feel sorry for you. And I hope you enjoy whatever this is. What was the comment that she made? So Wes, I hope you continue to act like you like her.

Speaker 2:
[20:22] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[20:23] That's the kind of stuff. God, I wish I could put an earpiece in her ear and just like feed her everything. I love the energy of, I just feel sorry for you.

Speaker 2:
[20:32] Oof, I love it. The backhanded shade, the yes, like did you catch that? Did she just say that? Like that's what it needs to be for sure.

Speaker 1:
[20:42] Cause I don't need a man to act like he likes me, okay?

Speaker 2:
[20:44] A man that's acting like he's liking somebody though is Kyle with our girl, Megan King-Eggman's.

Speaker 1:
[20:51] Did you see where he was standing on his tippy toes? That's all I could see.

Speaker 2:
[20:55] The hands on the shoulder.

Speaker 1:
[20:56] Kyle, Kyle, Kyle, Kyle's a mess.

Speaker 2:
[21:01] Kyle is a mess.

Speaker 1:
[21:03] What was that?

Speaker 2:
[21:04] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[21:05] Honestly, I saw it and I was just like, I just can't. I just scrawled.

Speaker 2:
[21:09] I like that Belle and her group chat just said no.

Speaker 1:
[21:12] No. That's all you need to say. No. Guys, step out of the Bravo world, please.

Speaker 2:
[21:19] For a minute. Please.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[23:10] I say Hochstein.

Speaker 1:
[23:11] Hochstein. We know that Jodi was breaking news on this podcast when Jodi was arrested for a white collar crime. I can't remember exactly what the charges were. For spying. Lisa has turned herself in, but not before she got a full beat.

Speaker 2:
[23:26] She looked good.

Speaker 1:
[23:27] She said, let me make sure this mugshot, this is going to be everywhere. I saw how Jodi looked. They ain't going to do that to me.

Speaker 2:
[23:33] Her mugshot, it could be like, really like a passport photo. Like it was, it was very nice.

Speaker 1:
[23:38] Yeah. Well, she's probably already thinking like, how can I merchandise this?

Speaker 2:
[23:43] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[23:44] You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[23:44] I would put that on a shirt.

Speaker 1:
[23:45] I have to look my best.

Speaker 2:
[23:46] On a coffee mug.

Speaker 1:
[23:47] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[23:48] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[23:48] She said, hold on a second. Let me get my hair and makeup. Lisa, this is the quote, Lisa is voluntarily surrendering. She's being released on her own recognizance and that was reported by her lawyer. She added her own statement in which she said, I don't want to let anyone distract me from my big divorce case this month. I thought it was already settled.

Speaker 2:
[24:07] I thought they were done.

Speaker 1:
[24:08] But maybe it's custody because sometimes they split it. She said, I'm focused on the well-being of my children who have been through enough. I've heard nobody has been charged with eavesdropping in Miami history. Well, they probably have been charged with that because that is not a criminal charge.

Speaker 2:
[24:30] She's so funny.

Speaker 1:
[24:31] I'll repeat, that was not a statement from her lawyer. That was a statement from Lisa herself.

Speaker 2:
[24:36] I've heard.

Speaker 1:
[24:37] But the crime is on the books for a reason.

Speaker 2:
[24:43] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[24:43] I'll just say that.

Speaker 2:
[24:44] The fact that her divorce is still going does make sense to me now, like why this is coming back up.

Speaker 1:
[24:49] Yeah, I thought it was done.

Speaker 2:
[24:50] Because I thought it was done. So I'm like, why is Lenny bringing this back up from 2023?

Speaker 1:
[24:53] She must be getting temporary support or something. Because we know she got support or they've settled the monetary side of it. Alexia and Adriana showed up at the courthouse to support Lisa. Love.

Speaker 2:
[25:05] Love. And look, I put this in the group chat. I said, this is an embarrassment.

Speaker 1:
[25:09] It is.

Speaker 2:
[25:09] Bravo should be ashamed of themselves that all of this is going on and cameras are nowhere to be found.

Speaker 1:
[25:17] It really makes me think it has to do with Todd. It really makes me think because Todd is suing them. That's why I feel like it's on pause. When I see that, I've said it from the beginning. I think that there's some type of issue that they're afraid of because maybe whatever happened in the last season is part of his lawsuit. I think that there are legal reasons they don't even want to touch it. Especially if Alexia is dating him again. That's why I think personally that there's no show. But that's just me. That's the guest that's alleged.

Speaker 2:
[25:43] You say never trust a Ralph, never trust a Todd.

Speaker 1:
[25:46] Never trust a Ralph. Let's just go to Ralph real quick. Just briefly.

Speaker 2:
[25:51] I can't.

Speaker 1:
[25:53] Drew Sidora update here. We've talked about the house, all of that. We know what's happening there. She's been ordered to vacate the house. But with it, and this is what I hate so much about divorces. Like all your shit becomes public. And it's such a violation for people to know so much about your bank account, how you live, what you spend your money on. But it's public information. So it's being reported that Drew brings in an average of $12,000 a month. And Ralph makes, very specific, $71,524 a month. Did we do the math on that? It's a little less than a million.

Speaker 2:
[26:36] Ralph makes over $800,000 a year. And then Drew makes, I think, about 150.

Speaker 1:
[26:45] Housewives.

Speaker 2:
[26:46] No, she makes $144,792.

Speaker 1:
[26:49] I wonder if that's before or after taxes. That's before taxes.

Speaker 2:
[26:52] This has to be before taxes.

Speaker 1:
[26:53] It's before taxes.

Speaker 2:
[26:54] This does not make sense to me.

Speaker 1:
[26:56] What do you think? I thought she would have been more than that.

Speaker 2:
[26:59] I don't see how she only makes $12,000 a month. And I don't know how one could deceive the divorce court, but there's no way that she only makes $12,000 a month.

Speaker 1:
[27:14] It's wild. She's been on since December, 2020. So she's been on for five years and she's only making $140,000.

Speaker 2:
[27:23] That doesn't, that, that, that is impossible. And she acts and she sings and she has sponsors and brand deals. This doesn't add up to me.

Speaker 1:
[27:35] The singing, that acting and singing.

Speaker 2:
[27:37] Okay, okay, okay. You know what? I was being generous.

Speaker 1:
[27:41] I don't know about the other stuff, but I will say I too, I was, I'm like, I would think that she was making more of that in Housewives. And if she's not, wow. Because somebody's divorce was public, that was a Housewife. And I feel like we saw how much money they made a month. I don't know why I want to say Shannon.

Speaker 2:
[28:01] It could have been Shannon. I mean, Shannon makes, yeah, Shannon. And Shannon doesn't do as much as Drew does.

Speaker 1:
[28:07] Listen.

Speaker 2:
[28:07] And I don't think the brand deals are popping for a 60 something year old woman from Orange County, like a 40 something year old woman in Atlanta, a black woman in Atlanta. I don't understand $12,000 a month.

Speaker 1:
[28:20] I don't know. I don't want to accuse her of anything. But I know in my personal experience, that was not a true amount that was being listed for the other one.

Speaker 2:
[28:32] Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah, cause I, again, I just, I can't buy this. And I don't love Drew. I don't love Ralph.

Speaker 1:
[28:41] I'm mad at Bravo. After five years, 140,000?

Speaker 2:
[28:45] They're a lot. She's, I don't, I don't believe it.

Speaker 1:
[28:50] You don't believe it?

Speaker 2:
[28:50] Allegedly. These are my beliefs.

Speaker 1:
[28:53] Well, it'll be a question that'll come out. It'll be a question that'll come out. We'll see. But she is saying she can't afford to leave the house and be on her own.

Speaker 2:
[29:00] Well, I could see that with this money and a child and stuff.

Speaker 1:
[29:04] So, you know, we'll.

Speaker 2:
[29:06] However, women, single moms can make that work.

Speaker 1:
[29:11] But they, she's getting glam. It's like a team.

Speaker 2:
[29:13] Well, then, but you need to stop getting glam.

Speaker 1:
[29:15] No, you're right.

Speaker 2:
[29:16] But that's the pressure. You put it on the table.

Speaker 1:
[29:18] That's the pressure on being on TV. I can't remember who was talking about this this time. But it's like, if you invite somebody somewhere, right? Like a carpet, like I'm going to go to the MJ premiere tonight. I can go and I'm going to do the carpet. But if I knowing my picture is going to be taken professionally, I would want to hire maybe somebody to do my makeup, to do my hair. I need an outfit. By the time you get done, that could cost you over three thousand dollars. Now, I will be doing my own hair. And I'm getting makeup and I'll be wearing some not-the-closet.

Speaker 2:
[29:49] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[29:50] Because I don't subscribe to all of them.

Speaker 2:
[29:52] No, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1:
[29:53] Because that's how you go broke. I ain't trying to impress y'all like that. I love y'all, but I'm not going to go broke over you.

Speaker 2:
[29:59] I love me more.

Speaker 1:
[29:59] But I do understand I will make space for the pressure because people do expect for you to look a certain way. And that's part of you getting deals and the next thing. It is a very expensive upkeep. More money, more problems.

Speaker 2:
[30:13] I guess.

Speaker 1:
[30:14] Okay. How do you say Luke's last name? Luke Gulbranson.

Speaker 2:
[30:18] You killed it.

Speaker 1:
[30:19] Did I?

Speaker 2:
[30:20] I think so.

Speaker 1:
[30:20] And what I thought was surprising news, I thought Luke was the first person from Bravo to run for a US. Congress seat.

Speaker 2:
[30:28] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[30:29] Because I thought Dr. Heavenly was running for local house, right? Local Congress in the state of Georgia.

Speaker 2:
[30:35] But upon research, upon further research, Chelsea called it first.

Speaker 1:
[30:40] She is also running for a US seat in Congress, to which I say, wow. Now, we obviously have reality TV stars that operate not just in the president, but in the administration.

Speaker 2:
[30:56] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[30:57] So not here to knock it, but wow. Boy, was I wrong.

Speaker 2:
[31:00] District 13 in Georgia.

Speaker 1:
[31:02] So Luke is not the first. But, you know, wow. I never, I don't, we don't really know that much about Luke, except that he's outdoorsy and he loves women, right? Like he gets his foot, he's always putting his foot in his mouth when it comes to women. And like, there's like some crossover and he just, he just doesn't get it right. But wow, he is running as a Democrat for Minnesota's 8th congressional district. He's trying to unseat the incumbent, who is a Republican and is seeking their fifth term. Wow, you heard this news. He says he's focusing on lower costs, protecting essential programs and expanding access to affordable health care. Great things to run on.

Speaker 2:
[31:41] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:42] Your thoughts?

Speaker 2:
[31:44] Yeah. Like you said, we don't know too much about Luke except I will add, I do know that he loves Minnesota. Yeah. I did remember that on his time on television was that he loved Minnesota. He also loved to get some maple syrup out of the trees. You remember he would do that?

Speaker 1:
[32:03] Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[32:03] Yeah, he did do that. I think on Winter House. So he's a real outdoorsman and he loves Minnesota. He's Minnesota nice. And yeah, good for him. Love to see someone that has a platform that thinks they can make a difference, utilize that platform and see how far that could get them. I don't know anything about this Peter Stauber guy. I will say there might be a lot of people in Minnesota that aren't too honed in on the pros and cons of each person and might just vote based off looks. And if that's the case, Luke's got this in the bag.

Speaker 1:
[32:42] For sure. I'm trying to see if this guy is MAGA.

Speaker 2:
[32:45] Good looking man.

Speaker 1:
[32:47] I will say that in looking at Luke's website, I'm, listen, I would love to see him in a debate. We have to watch that. We have to cover that now on this show. But what I will say about Luke is, you know, I said yes, we know he loves Minnesota. Like you said, he's very outdoorsy. He got in trouble with the women and how he navigated some of those relationships and really some of the relationships in the house. But once he left, he left. There was no drama. There was no tapping really back into. Let's see if he was on some other reality show that I don't know of.

Speaker 2:
[33:17] I don't think so.

Speaker 1:
[33:18] It really is like, that was the end of that chapter. And he went off and he did his thing. And it seems like he's back in Minnesota. And upon reflection and seeing the current state of the world, he says, listen, I'm running for Congress to help the family doing math at the table and coming up short. I love that. That's how many people are struggling with, I got to rob Peter to pay Paul. I might not have health care because I have to keep the lights on or I'll just take a gamble with health or whatever it may be. And he's fighting for unions. He's fighting for social security and Medicare. Go Luke.

Speaker 2:
[33:53] Go Luke.

Speaker 1:
[33:53] Go Luke.

Speaker 2:
[33:55] I don't know if we do endorsements, but go Luke. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[34:01] We approve.

Speaker 2:
[34:02] We approve this message.

Speaker 1:
[34:04] We do. We do. Real quick in the rumor report, it came out that Craig Conover and Kelsey Ballerini are dating. That was a rumor. It's since been squashed. There was a picture of the two of them together. At this point, I didn't even do any further research if it was real or AI, but when I saw it, I was like, there's no way.

Speaker 2:
[34:22] Yeah. She's dating Chase Stokes, I think.

Speaker 1:
[34:24] Not anymore.

Speaker 2:
[34:26] I think they're on and off. I think they might be back on.

Speaker 1:
[34:29] I think they're back off. They were on to the opening.

Speaker 2:
[34:31] I would say away for both of them. She seems to be in a messy thing with Chase Stokes. Craig is a serial liar. I don't like it for either one of them. It is a weird callback to, remember seasons ago, Kelsey, there was an auction on Southern Charm and Kelsey Bellarini was before. She was big, did an auction and auctioned, and then she was like, do you really want to date with Craig?

Speaker 1:
[34:57] I do not remember.

Speaker 2:
[34:57] Oh, yeah, yeah. So like, I think that's where the rumor kind of originated from. Wishful thinking from Southern Charm truthers, but yeah.

Speaker 1:
[35:06] Yeah, no, guys, no, no, no. Other rumor reports, Summer House Ozarks, which we touched a little bit. I posed this question on threads and I was like, is this really a thing or is this just a rumor? A lot of people were like, well, we think it's on pause or we're not quite sure with the whole West of it all. But allegedly they're about to start production on a Summer House spinoff that's taking place in the Ozarks. Take West out of it. I would be interested in seeing this show because I just don't know that area. I know a lot of people from Texas used to go to Christian summer camp up there. I watched the show Ozark. There is a whole thing about going to the Ozarks and I have no idea what that community is about. So I actually think, and that's an untapped area for Bravo World. So I was like, oh, that's really interesting. But if West Wilson is the bridge, London Bridge fall down, burn it to the ground. I don't want like all the bridges.

Speaker 2:
[36:01] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[36:01] If he's the bridge to the Summer House and Summer House Ozarks, I don't want it.

Speaker 2:
[36:05] I don't want it. I do not want it. If West is the bridge, please count me out. I don't want to reward his bad behavior, his toxicity. I don't want any part of this. I do agree that, yeah, we haven't seen the Ozarks in this light. I will say my husband went on a last hurrah trip before the baby, which I'm sorry, that was your bachelor party, but no. And him and his friends, they took a trip to the Ozarks. It was random, but they have some Kansas City area people. And he didn't have, like, shining reviews about, like, it's not like it's not the Hamptons. No, no. And my husband's from West Virginia. So he like, he's, he knows nature and the like. So he was like, yeah, it's more of a like a vacation place for, like, yeah, that like Midwest type vibe and stuff. So lake houses, dive bars, stuff like, like that.

Speaker 1:
[37:07] I, yeah, it looks.

Speaker 2:
[37:09] I think like, I didn't watch Flora Bama Shore. Did you watch that on like MTV? I think it might be like something like, like that kind of vibe.

Speaker 1:
[37:18] Like the show?

Speaker 2:
[37:20] Like the scenery kind of.

Speaker 1:
[37:22] Well, no, because the Ozarks have like those beautiful trees and like the big river.

Speaker 2:
[37:25] I guess I mean like nightlife type. Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[37:28] I don't even know if I'm expecting that as much. You know, I, I, I want Summer House Martha's Vineyard to come back. I want them to get it right, I want to come back. But I wonder, I think they'll have a much easier time filling during, filming during peak season for this than they would for Martha's Vineyard.

Speaker 2:
[37:46] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[37:47] And it's this summer house.

Speaker 2:
[37:48] I think similar concept of like you could with Hamptons, you go up for the weekend from Kansas City and you come back and you live your life and whatever. Like I think with Martha's Vineyard it was, and I think also they said with, what was it, Winter House, they had trouble filming these shows for like two weeks and like creating new stories and moving things along and stuff like that. Like I think, at least with Ozarks, they could come and go. But again, big disclaimer, I do not want Wes Wilson to be any part of this show. And I'm not sure if you saw the, this is where it's like Dumas reported it. And then there was a clip of Wes doing a press junket with John Ham, who is also from Missouri. And he talks about potentially doing a Summer House Ozarks, Wes does and like mentions that it like might be a thing, like might be in production, that he might be involved. And to that, like, yeah, I don't want to watch Wes.

Speaker 1:
[38:47] Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 2:
[38:48] I'm like, I will tune out. And I think Bravo is smart enough to know that most viewers will probably also.

Speaker 1:
[38:54] People will watch it.

Speaker 2:
[38:55] You think for Wes?

Speaker 1:
[38:56] He's a man on reality TV. I don't think he would be a part of it like, because it's either it's rumored that the show will feature four women and four men. I don't think West is one of the four men. I think it's just more of like, he would be like the Dolores, like how Rhode Island is and stuff like that. Welcome to the Summer House. And then, you know, I saw one report that was like one of the Mrs. X. I think it's just more of like that, like him introducing, like, this is my guy, this, this is my guy, this. Like, I think it would be more like that than him actually being a part of it.

Speaker 2:
[39:26] But to have the cojones to just like do what you do and then come back and just be on TV and be like, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:34] That's a man.

Speaker 2:
[39:35] That is like wild to me. To be a real white man.

Speaker 1:
[39:40] That's a man.

Speaker 2:
[39:41] That is wild to me.

Speaker 1:
[39:43] Nothing about West's behavior is shocking to me.

Speaker 2:
[39:45] I know.

Speaker 1:
[39:46] Because he will continue to be rewarded. He'll be fine. That's the infuriating thing of it all. He will be fine. Amanda can't say that about her. I think Ciara will be fine.

Speaker 2:
[39:58] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:58] Because she's the wronged one. If she was the one committing it, no, she never would.

Speaker 2:
[40:02] No.

Speaker 1:
[40:03] But...

Speaker 2:
[40:06] Ugh, makes me sick.

Speaker 1:
[40:07] You know, maybe you should give Amanda a job on this cast.

Speaker 2:
[40:11] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[40:11] Like, I just...

Speaker 2:
[40:11] Your new girlfriend.

Speaker 1:
[40:12] Not really. Like, yeah. I mean... Nobody believes that. Yes. Every video I see of them together, it looks like she likes him way more than he likes her.

Speaker 2:
[40:23] Oh, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[40:24] She's like looking dead into his eyes and he's like...

Speaker 2:
[40:27] He wishes he did not have to put out that statement. Like, he just is like... Yeah, no. He's in his own, like, worst hell. He'll find a way to get out soon.

Speaker 1:
[40:39] Yeah. Also, if I'm Ciara, unblock them. Like, I want you to see how me thrive. I want you to see it. I'm not a blocker. I'm like, look if you want to. Go ahead. Take it in.

Speaker 2:
[40:54] Maybe just, like, mute them so that you don't see their stuff?

Speaker 1:
[40:56] Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That part. That part. All right. You're going to do a little game here?

Speaker 2:
[41:02] Yes. OK. So in honor of Rachel's birthday, we're going to do a little Plead the Fifth. I think I chose some good ones. And so if you're not familiar with Watch What Happens Live, Andy typically has a guest. He has three questions. To only one, you could plead the fifth.

Speaker 1:
[41:20] Do I have to drink or something if I don't?

Speaker 2:
[41:22] Yeah, we could all climb over and crack open that Vita tequila.

Speaker 1:
[41:26] Vita's been sitting there. It's aged. Might be good now.

Speaker 2:
[41:31] Okay. So first question. Name the Bravo Lab you would be down to hook up with.

Speaker 1:
[41:44] The Bravo left?

Speaker 2:
[41:45] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[41:47] I played the Fifth.

Speaker 2:
[41:48] That's the first question!

Speaker 1:
[41:49] There's not one I would want to. And if I was thinking it's somebody's husband, and I'm not gonna say somebody's husband.

Speaker 2:
[41:56] You could go Brad or Angelina, no?

Speaker 1:
[41:59] No. There's not a one. I'm so disgusted by realities. Like, are they a romantic or attraction to people on reality TV?

Speaker 2:
[42:08] I can't even throw out a KJ for you? Like, he's a safe, good man? Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[42:12] It wouldn't even be KJ.

Speaker 2:
[42:13] It's not like KJ, but it wouldn't be KJ. I thought I left you with a layup there, but I guess not.

Speaker 1:
[42:18] They get worse?

Speaker 2:
[42:20] Let's see. What is the most annoying thing that Van does?

Speaker 1:
[42:25] Oh, I thought they were all Bravo related. What's the most annoying thing? Probably like going on like when he's like, and let me tell you why, and then he goes on for 30 minutes.

Speaker 2:
[42:41] Yeah. It's not concise. He's very long-winded.

Speaker 1:
[42:44] He would say something like, and I mean, it's podcasting, so it works, but it's not that he's long-winded. It's the, and one more thing, and just this last thought, or I wouldn't want to hook up with anybody on Bravo, any Bravo Lab, and let me tell you why, and then you just know you're in it.

Speaker 2:
[43:02] Dissertation.

Speaker 1:
[43:03] You're in it.

Speaker 2:
[43:06] Last one, and remember, you have to answer now because you already played the Fifth.

Speaker 1:
[43:10] Or what?

Speaker 2:
[43:12] Okay, Erica. Name a celeb, famous celeb who has slid into your DMs.

Speaker 1:
[43:24] How do I want to say? People really don't slide into my DMs. That's not a thing. I don't know if I'm, they're like, oh, that girl talks too much because she's always like higher learning or morally corrupt clips or, you know, like, I don't really do like a lot of sexy stuff, but Shaq.

Speaker 2:
[43:39] Okay, Shaquille O'Neal.

Speaker 1:
[43:40] I think he slides in like everybody's DMs.

Speaker 2:
[43:42] But he likes, and you're in his height demographic.

Speaker 1:
[43:46] That's what somebody said when I told them. They're like, you're about that size. You're about that range.

Speaker 2:
[43:52] Fun size.

Speaker 1:
[43:53] You're about that range.

Speaker 2:
[43:55] Well, thank you, Rachel, for playing Plead the Fifth for your birthday.

Speaker 1:
[43:58] Happy birthday. What a birthday present. I got to tell my business for my birthday. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2:
[44:03] You're welcome.

Speaker 1:
[44:04] But thank you. No, very special.

Speaker 2:
[44:06] Good.

Speaker 1:
[44:07] Well, that's a high note and a little tea, I guess, for you guys. I've never said that.

Speaker 2:
[44:10] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[44:11] It wasn't really a thing. I didn't make a thing. But that is it for us here on Morally Corrupt. Make sure you guys have a great week. We'll be here on Friday giving you the recaps. Don't know what's in the bag with that, but it'll be something. A lot of people were disappointed we didn't cover Summer House.

Speaker 2:
[44:25] We'll cover it.

Speaker 1:
[44:26] They're teasing that this Summer House episode, is it the last one? Maybe it's like there's two left, two or three left.

Speaker 2:
[44:31] I think there's a couple left, but Andy is saying that it's a tough one to watch.

Speaker 1:
[44:37] Yeah. So I guess we'll talk about it. Until then guys, take care. Bye.

Speaker 2:
[44:43] Bye.