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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Yo, finally, we're here at Drink Champs, the fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. We're gonna be there, you know we're gonna tear it up. You know there's a lot of black people there, so you know we're gonna be black as hell. April 25th, Atlanta, Georgia, please go get your tickets. I'm telling you, go get your tickets. I know how this happened. I've been going there, it's been going there, you've been going there, go get your tickets! It's going down, Drink Champs, fourth annual Black Effect, black, black, black, blackeffect.com/podcastfestival.

Speaker 2:
[00:27] What up y'all, this your main man Memphis Bleek right here. Welcome to ROC Solid, a production of I Heart Radio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over at Drink Champs. Yeah, yeah, y'all, you already know what it is. Yours truly, M. Greasy, Mev Blizzle, back in the building with another ROC Solid exclusive. Got my brother here, my smoke partner. We should be smoke champs, man.

Speaker 3:
[01:04] For real, for real.

Speaker 2:
[01:05] Young Relly, Ching Bing and them. They might be smoke after this one. But you know I got my dog Smoke DZA in the building with me. What's up, my guy?

Speaker 3:
[01:14] Come on, man. Killing the blame, fighting the good one.

Speaker 2:
[01:17] That's right, man. Happy New Year, my brother. Happy New Year. Seeing y'all all out there at that WrestleMania wrestling fest, man. You know what I'm saying? What made y'all get it? How did that even connect?

Speaker 3:
[01:31] First and foremost, shout out to my brother Westside Gun.

Speaker 2:
[01:34] Wait, no, Lord. They banned the gun. They said you can't ban the snowman. How they banned the gun?

Speaker 3:
[01:46] You know, I'm going to save that part of the story for him to tell it. But you know, we've been making some waves and shit got a little complicated. I mean, so they did do My Brother Dirty on that note, you know what I mean? But we got into it like, you know, since we was kids, we loved wrestling. And being grown and being able to actually purchase tickets and some of these guys are actual friends, you know, we support. So we always was front row at WrestleMania's or whatever the premium main event was, AEW shit, TNA. But we got the opportunity to do our own thing. So, you know, we got fourth row.

Speaker 2:
[02:31] That's what's up, man. That's dope, man. Congratulations on that, bro. Tying hip hop in the wrestling was something I ain't never thought. But like you said, as a kid, we always was into it. Come on, man. They had, what was my man? Animal Steel, to eat the turnbuckle. Come on, my, you got Big Jaw Star, Andre the Giant. You know what I'm saying? That's when I was in it with Coco B. Wade.

Speaker 3:
[02:56] That's the era that introduced me to wrestling.

Speaker 2:
[02:59] My, we always little niggas practicing that shit on our little cousins, little brothers like this, jumping off the couch like elbow to the neck, Facts, though. Nah, that's true, man. That's what's up, man. So you're doing the music thing, man. What was the come up, the moment that you was like, let me take this music shit serious, man?

Speaker 3:
[03:23] Well, you know, I came up in a battle circuit, but it was way before it got commercial, way before the cameras really started to play a part to it. But, you know, that gave me confidence. But when I really took it serious, I want to say is, hmm, I think once I started writing for other people and getting some of those ass cap checks.

Speaker 2:
[03:48] Shit, that a chain. That'll make everything happen. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3:
[03:52] Yeah, that made my parents take me serious. You know what I mean? So that was like-

Speaker 2:
[03:55] Why are they always the first haters? Yo, that's literally your first group of haters, your moms or your pops. Like, your brother, all that. They the first haters.

Speaker 3:
[04:04] It's crazy. But you know, I was trying a lot of shit. You know what I mean? And you know, my parents is West Indian, so they wanted me to get a job. Yo, go get a job. Like, what are you doing? Like, it looked like I was just jerking wreck until they seen something and they seen my name on it. It was like, oh, okay. Oh yeah, yeah, keep doing that.

Speaker 2:
[04:26] Yeah, this shit paid. That's all they wanted to make sure is you got paid.

Speaker 3:
[04:29] Yeah, like you figured it out. So after that, you know, they've been on board. Shit, they my biggest fans.

Speaker 2:
[04:35] Oh yeah, they become the... That's how all the haters are.

Speaker 3:
[04:38] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[04:39] Yo, listen, my theory is... My theory is the hater is your biggest fan, because they have to know everything about you, they hate you.

Speaker 3:
[04:50] Yeah, that's a fact.

Speaker 2:
[04:51] So they are your biggest fans in hindsight, you know what I'm saying? So we got to love it, and moms and pops, you know, my moms know. She used to tell me, put them raps down, do that homework. Now she looking like, pick them fucking raps up, What you doing? What you talking about, you in the pool?

Speaker 3:
[05:09] Yeah. Yeah, my mom, my mom's ain't... She like, you know, she's just happy I'm doing my own thing. My pops passed, but before he did, he was definitely my biggest fan. He'll be mad at me, but he'll run into something and I'll be the first person he goes, you know Smoke DZA, you heard of Smoke? That's my son.

Speaker 2:
[05:28] That's right, he was proud.

Speaker 3:
[05:30] Yeah, he was super proud.

Speaker 2:
[05:31] That's all you want to do is make your parents proud, man. That's for sure. So I might have this misc and screw out. Did Dipset put you in the industry? You got on through them or a different way?

Speaker 3:
[05:43] Nah, so, shites bubs. Shout out to my brother, Shites Bubs, the Emperor.

Speaker 2:
[05:47] That's Purple City Bird Gang, man.

Speaker 3:
[05:50] Right, right, right.

Speaker 2:
[05:51] Always had the haze on them.

Speaker 3:
[05:53] Always. He was the one that introduced me to Real Weed. No way. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[05:58] Now, Shites had that weed back in the day, my G.

Speaker 3:
[06:00] Shites is for sure pivotal in getting me a part of the system, you know what I mean? And teaching me how shit works. And I met Shites through Johnny Shipes. That's the first person that actually gave me a shot, you know what I mean? And around, I want to say, oh four, oh five, like the tail end of what everybody knew Purple City to be with Ag and Un, like they was drifting off and doing their own thing.

Speaker 2:
[06:27] Shout out Unkasa.

Speaker 3:
[06:28] Shout out to Un, that's my brother.

Speaker 2:
[06:29] He the second nicest with glasses I ever saw.

Speaker 3:
[06:32] Two gun Un.

Speaker 2:
[06:32] Word up, straight up, rest in peace. My man, Batman, was the first with glasses, man, that he was nice to. And then when I see Unkasa where he came, I'm like, damn, that's crazy. Don't sleep on these.

Speaker 3:
[06:44] He's a rapping ass.

Speaker 2:
[06:45] Word up. He's a rapper's rapper.

Speaker 3:
[06:48] He's a rapper's rapper, for sure. I came in the tail end of that. And you know, Shice is still pivotal in my career today. You know what I mean? That's big, bro.

Speaker 2:
[06:57] He's doing this thing in the Wii game now, right?

Speaker 4:
[06:59] For sure, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[07:00] That's what's up, man. He was out here running around with the, that's when it was Piff.

Speaker 4:
[07:04] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[07:05] He actually made the word Piff in the urban dictionary. It's made by Shice Bubbs, so shout out to Shice.

Speaker 2:
[07:12] No fucking way. Man, that's what's up, man. So how did that link bridge the gap for you to link with currency, man? My dog.

Speaker 3:
[07:21] Oh, man. Shout out to Spitter.

Speaker 2:
[07:23] Word up, man.

Speaker 3:
[07:25] New Orleans, man. Shit, that's a good question. And I want to say like, 09, when we started doing South by Southwest.

Speaker 2:
[07:35] Damn, y'all was the first ones doing that shit there.

Speaker 3:
[07:37] We was out there early.

Speaker 2:
[07:38] Yeah, because that's around when it first started, 09. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[07:42] And we had the Smokers Club. That was our brand that we was pushing at the time. And we did our first show in South by Southwest, and Spitter was on that show, Wiz was on that show, J-Rock and Kendrick Lamar was on that show, Big Crit was on that show. And you know, that started our brotherhood. But the first time I actually met Spitter was when he was on a Freshman cover. And I think that was a little before we did South by Southwest. And it was a session with Mickey Fax. And this is when Spitter was smoking blunts. I know he don't want to hear that. But I met Spitter when he was smoking blunts, but yeah, he was the first to the conversion of the paper gang. But to answer the question, going to South by Southwest, that's what started the budding brotherhood of all of us. And that's how I really started kicking it with Spitter. And then moving to Dame. When Dame had DD 172, that's where we really-

Speaker 2:
[08:45] Oh, okay. Oh yeah, I remember he was fucking with Dame. Yeah, man, Dame and Spitter had drama too.

Speaker 4:
[08:52] Yeah, yo, chill.

Speaker 2:
[08:54] I forgot about that, yo.

Speaker 3:
[08:58] I'm pretty sure they good now.

Speaker 2:
[08:59] Yeah, of course, man.

Speaker 3:
[09:01] But yeah, that's where we really was cutting records and just running around the city. And camaraderie really got built there. That was the foundation.

Speaker 2:
[09:10] Man, that's what's up, man. Currency a good dude, man. I was supposed to go out there to New Orleans and fuck with him. I'm going to make it out there real soon, man.

Speaker 3:
[09:19] He's a fucking movie.

Speaker 2:
[09:20] Trust me. I know, my G. Fucking... You from a legendary... You know, every borough in New York got their spitters, got their legendary history, top dogs. Like, being from Harlem, though, like... That's a lot of pressure, because y'all put a lot of people came out of Harlem, man. You know what I'm saying? I might as too many to name, but you know the elite, main niggas, Maze, like puffing from Harlem, but I don't know how he adapted Harlem. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how that happened. The Lox, too. The Lox from Yonkers. They adapted Harlem, too. Y'all cheating. Y'all is stealing artists. So we gonna talk about that on another episode, how Harlem be just stealing, making... Yeah, he Harlem, too.

Speaker 4:
[10:07] Nah, cause it's love.

Speaker 3:
[10:08] It's love in Harlem.

Speaker 4:
[10:10] It is.

Speaker 2:
[10:10] I'm not hating, but I'm just saying, we never took a Queens nigga just like, yo, he Brooklyn. Queens took Brooklyn niggas, they took AZ.

Speaker 4:
[10:17] They took AZ.

Speaker 2:
[10:18] Yeah, you took AZ definitely take AZ from Queens.

Speaker 3:
[10:22] I was about to say, y'all lost a few to Queens.

Speaker 2:
[10:26] You know what I'm saying? took, jacked them.

Speaker 3:
[10:28] But it's love.

Speaker 2:
[10:29] Yeah, it's always love.

Speaker 3:
[10:30] You know, it's a five borough thing when we out of New York, but you know Queens get the money, you know Harlem. You know what we do in Brooklyn. You know how y'all give it up and then shout out to the Bronx.

Speaker 2:
[10:40] We ain't taking no more. We making it now. Brooklyn keep on making it. We making it now. We got new mentality. You know what I mean? It's 2026. We gotta get this money, baby.

Speaker 4:
[10:54] You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:
[10:56] But like I said, being from Harlem, you got Maze, Dipset, Cam, you know, Cam is Dipset, fucking The Lox.

Speaker 3:
[11:06] Nah, you can't put The Lox in there. Big Al.

Speaker 2:
[11:09] You know, Big Al, McGruff. It's a lot of legendary spitters. Too many to name. Too many, man. But like, what was the pressure like for you to et your name in that historical lineup?

Speaker 3:
[11:21] Because, you know, it never really was no pressure, to be honest, because, you know, I knew where I was from, but I also knew, you know, I had my own path to make and lead. So like, I think it gave me more of a confidence to be a part of the group of names that you said, instead of really having pressure because, you know, when I'm everywhere I go, I'm waving the flag of Harlem. And obviously, you know, I'm a New York, so I got a lot of friends that's from the South and the Midwest and the West Coast. So, you know, being a Harlem, I always stand out because when ask me where I'm from, I say Harlem. I'm gonna say New York.

Speaker 2:
[12:01] That's right. Yo, nobody say New York. And it's crazy, you could be in another country and you're like, yo, where you from? And say they borough.

Speaker 3:
[12:07] Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[12:08] Straight up.

Speaker 3:
[12:09] Let them figure out where that's, oh, New York, yeah. So I think it gave me more of a confidence instead of a pressure to actually live up to what other niggas was doing because I feel like, not even I feel, I know I came up in the internet era. You know what I mean? So it's completely different to how the guys that trailblazed the way came up. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[12:36] So, man, listen, y'all killed this. Listen, I go to my streams, I go to my Spotify and look at my old albums and be like, oh, my shit was weak on here. But then you look and be like, damn, but I went gold. The foot traffic was good, the digital traffic was bad. But for y'all to come up in that new era, y'all paving the way now for the like, my next thing that I was going to go into, the other brand deals, the merchandise, the weed brands, everything. How was that? Because I feel like you wanted a main, the main only artist in New York that really maintain his brand outside of music, where it's not just about music when they speak Smoke DZA, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3:
[13:20] You know what's ill, Blizzle? I was talking to Rob Markman years ago, because I used to be thirsty to get on the Freshman cover. That was something that I had to have back then. And I never got it, and all my friends got it. Niggas that was next to me, niggas that came up under me. I used to be like, what do got against me? And then Rob told me, it wasn't what people had against me. It was like, yo, what are you doing outside of rap? You got to have something else other than rap to make a story for real this day. Like, yeah, you nice, yeah, you talk that shit, but what else? And from that day, I was always thinking about my what else, because it gotta be more than just rap, it's business. You know what I mean? So putting all those components around, like the weed, the wrestling, the fly shit, you know what I mean? Like it's all different brands and ways that I could compartmentalize and make money off these things. So I think just having that mentality made it a little easier for me to develop shit and actually keep it going. And obviously I didn't do it by myself because nothing great happens alone. That's a fact. I had a lot of partners along the way, and I still do. So, you know, just taking that serious.

Speaker 2:
[14:40] You can make my notes look like I'm Steven A.

Speaker 4:
[14:43] Blizzu.

Speaker 2:
[14:45] Because every time you say, son, I look down, I'm like, yeah, that's going into my next note.

Speaker 4:
[14:50] Yeah, that's hard.

Speaker 2:
[14:51] Steven A. Blizzu. I need an ESPN spot.

Speaker 3:
[14:55] Now, you really good at this, man.

Speaker 4:
[14:56] I've been told you that. He really good at this shit.

Speaker 3:
[15:00] Good luck.

Speaker 2:
[15:01] And I was going to say, because you know, you said your business mind, like that's what I was going to say, because these kids out here today don't really understand how important ownership is, man. Like, speak to them about how important ownership is behind your brand and how that shapes your, like your mentality shaped about that, because if you don't own nothing, then you're just doing all the footwork as a slave trader.

Speaker 3:
[15:21] And you know, because the ill part is you learn how important ownership is, not owning shit. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4:
[15:29] That's right.

Speaker 2:
[15:29] Ownership.

Speaker 4:
[15:30] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[15:31] And I learned the hard way. I learned from, you know, just being impulsive and doing shit when you just see that one number and you just got to get to that and just being impulsive instead of just being like, you know what? All money ain't good money. And if I wait, I can get tripled at, quadrupled at. But you know, being young and having a family, it makes you impulsive, especially being an artist. A from New York that got to keep up. You know what I mean? So at the beginning, I made a lot of impulsive decisions that made me have to learn. You know what I'm saying? So going through that, hitting my head a couple of times, I was like, all right, doing the same shit over and over and expecting different results. This is insanity. And I'm not a crazy nigga. So let me slow this down a little bit and focus on one thing and then build a team around me to make sure that these things don't happen again.

Speaker 2:
[16:28] That's a fact.

Speaker 3:
[16:29] Owning is very important.

Speaker 2:
[16:30] That's a fact. All these kids, they be so quick, they see the dollar. Don't think about the end result. That's how they do it to us though. My theory is, if somebody ready to give you something up front, what they making on the back end?

Speaker 3:
[16:44] How much is it worth?

Speaker 2:
[16:45] You feel me? Because nothing is free. If you're going to give me this, then I mean, you got a profit. You're not giving me this money to lose. You got to think about it that way. So, you know, that's my thing when I talk to these young boys about all that. Like you was the first I heard like, you know, when you listen to the Southern rappers, like the Pimpsies, the Scarfaces, the... You know, even out west in the Bay, a lot of the Bay areas had that, you know, chill, the smokeadelic vibe, the pimp, like the pimp feel. You like, I feel like the first East Coast consistent artist with that. Do you feel like you get enough credit for that, for your contribution on the East side for that?

Speaker 3:
[17:33] Um, damn, that's a good question, bro. Um, no. But to hear niggas like you say that, and when I'm talking to niggas like Kiss, you know what I mean, and other that I grew up on that, y'all inspired me when I hear from y'all and let me know, okay, you doing it right, you know what I mean? And nah, I don't feel like I get that credit, but at the end of the day, my story is still going. So I'm just, I'm pushing. I'm not really looking for the praise either, like, but to get the acknowledgement is always, it's always good to know that I'm on my path. You know what I mean? So.

Speaker 2:
[18:15] I'm a firm believer whether one or one million, right? Because one could tell a million.

Speaker 3:
[18:20] Facts.

Speaker 2:
[18:21] You know what I mean? So I'm a firm believer of that, man. One person listening and knowing, seeing, can tell. That's all you need, man. And integrity is everything. You can hear it in the music. know when you authentic or you faking it. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3:
[18:37] You can see it because you know when the cameras ain't off.

Speaker 2:
[18:39] You can't fake the fans.

Speaker 3:
[18:39] We all sizing everybody up. That's right. Are you really what you say you are?

Speaker 2:
[18:44] And that's the shit social media give an advantage to y'all with. Where in that day, you can hide a. A lot of these artists hid behind the XXL interview, the Source Mag interview, they video and then the camera cut off. You never see these guys again. So to you as a fan, you like, oh, he with that shit. And then social media come out and you like, wait a minute. This, hold on. This is mushing this in his hood. He can't even get out the car to go to the store. Wait one second. Social media ruined it for a lot of niggas from my era, but I feel like they enhanced it for a lot of niggas from your era.

Speaker 3:
[19:23] Yeah, because the from, or some of the niggas from my era, we just know that you don't gotta be, I'm not a tough guy.

Speaker 2:
[19:31] That's right.

Speaker 3:
[19:32] You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:
[19:32] Like that's not what I'm promoting. The coolest rule the world, baby.

Speaker 3:
[19:37] You feel me? So I'm just like, I'ma always be unapologetically me because that's all I know how to do. Now do I get angry? Yeah, I'm human. So get mad, but at the same time, I know how to carry myself on social media because I know it's other people watching. My kids follow me on social media. My niece follow me. I got kids that's looking at me.

Speaker 2:
[20:04] That's what should change, right?

Speaker 3:
[20:05] Yeah. So it's like anytime I post something in my stories, my kids is the first people there.

Speaker 2:
[20:10] That's a fact.

Speaker 3:
[20:11] I know I'm being watched and not only that, the world is watching. It's people watching me that I've never seen a day in my life. So I got to make sure that I represent the right way for my family at the very least, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[20:24] That's a fact. That's a fact. Do you feel like, let me ask you in your opinion, because I get this question a lot. People always ask me, what project or what record you feel like best represents you or tell a story about you?

Speaker 3:
[20:40] I would say an album. I say my album with Pete Rock, Don't Smoke Rock.

Speaker 2:
[20:45] Shout out Pete.

Speaker 3:
[20:47] That was like the catalyst to me, like being recognized by people I really look up to.

Speaker 2:
[20:55] Pete Rock is a legend.

Speaker 3:
[20:56] Because it was like, you got an album with Pete Rock. How the fuck did you do it?

Speaker 2:
[21:02] It's a fact.

Speaker 3:
[21:02] You know what I mean? So, and Pete was like my Phil Jackson. Like I was in the studio for every song with Pete. And Pete will be like, nah, do it over.

Speaker 2:
[21:13] Yeah, you need those.

Speaker 3:
[21:14] Yeah, he will push back like, nah, I don't know about that. Oh no, that's it right there. Don't do nothing else. And he was allowing me to challenge him. Like, nah, Pete, I know you know, everybody loved the drums, but let's hold the drums on this one. And he's like, you know what we gonna name the song? Hold the Drums. And that's like one of my most popular songs.

Speaker 2:
[21:33] That's crazy.

Speaker 4:
[21:34] Hold the Drums.

Speaker 2:
[21:35] I told my Cheech, album gonna be called, it's Cheech Fault. It's Cheech Fault. It's your fault I'm in here rapping this shit. Man, you did this shit. It's your fault. So if they say it's wack, it's Cheech Fault. If it's lit, it's back to my fault, y'all. Nah, nah, it's still Cheech Fault.

Speaker 3:
[21:57] This stupid.

Speaker 2:
[21:58] Word up, yo. Yo, like doing the branding in the hip hop shit, man, like how do you stay focused on different... My high words get fucked up. Keeping it separated, like one from the other, because I'm gonna tell you, I've been in this business, I done had the brands get low, I done had the brand Kush Gang, you know, we got the ROC Solid moving, we got the weed brand mine, right? And I ain't got one t-shirt on nobody, nothing. Because I'm not from that era, you know? At ROC-A-Fella, we had somebody that did that, a whole department. You go down there and tell them, yo, I want this done, you had boxes of t-shirts next week in the office waiting for you. You came up with a logo, you sent it downstairs, Bobby Dash run that shit downstairs, boxes of headbands, hat, t-shirts was waiting. So I never knew where to go out and get that plug, that footwork for that. It's not like the Capsule Spy.

Speaker 3:
[23:07] See, for us, you know, I just utilize my buddy system. You know what I mean? And like, how I separate it is, sometimes you can't separate it. Sometimes the worlds just meet, regardless, as much as you try to separate them, sometimes it just makes sense to, you know, cross brand certain things. But I lean on my buddy system, you know what I mean? Like, what good is your comrades if you can't utilize them? It's not using them, it's utilizing them. Like, you know, like, for instance, West makes some of the best merch in hip hop, if not the best merch.

Speaker 2:
[23:39] He killed it.

Speaker 3:
[23:40] I wear his shit like I wear Balenciaga or Gucci or anything else. You know what I mean? My man Steve and Quazi, they got kill off season. The leather shit, I'm always, and I'm wearing that shit, I'm paying top dollar too. You know what I mean? The same way how I'ma spend with any of these other brands, it's not only to support my friends, but I like fly shit and I'm gonna utilize them niggas too, the same way. You know what I mean? So it's like, you gotta build your farm of people around you. And all y'all, you know, we all feed off each other. Like, you know, we don't charge each other for features or no shit like that. Like, we just-

Speaker 2:
[24:16] We working.

Speaker 3:
[24:17] We working, you know what I mean? Keeping it pushing, keeping it in the family, it's really like the black dollar when you think about it. You know what I mean? We keep it in the family, we always gonna expand it.

Speaker 2:
[24:26] That's what's up. That bring me to a story. I remember being a young nigga, right? It was probably like about 21, 22. And I'm walking in, this is when we did, we was in Def Jam office, ROC-A-Fella, on 50th. 50th. Yup. And I'm walking in the building, coming in here, I got two, three of my with me, Jay coming out. And I'm like, yo, Hov, what's up, man? I need more radio support. I'm telling this, I need niggas. You know this, when the merch, the label wasn't the same, ROC-A-Fella. This was at the tail end where you put that call in, it wasn't boxes of t-shirts waiting no more. You know what I mean? And he was like, yo, you gotta get your niggas to move around. It started, you know, none of your niggas got no plays. None of these don't know how to move around. So I'm looking at my niggas like, nah, all my niggas know how to do is shoot. That was like, then you need new. So I'm looking at him like, I can't get rid of these my niggas, my childhood friends. I can't fork them for only knowing how to hold it down. And he was like, but Bleek, we don't got no beef. don't need to hold it down no more.

Speaker 4:
[25:36] have to think like, damn.

Speaker 2:
[25:39] Even my new ain't make no merch. I ain't got some new. They ain't make no merch either. They in Florida at the Range learning.

Speaker 4:
[25:54] They prepare it.

Speaker 2:
[25:56] Like, if they go down.

Speaker 3:
[25:58] Oh, man, I gotta send you some mock-ups, Blizzle. I'll send you the mock-ups of where to get it done. Just go do it.

Speaker 2:
[26:03] Come on, hold me down, man. Put me in the game.

Speaker 4:
[26:05] I got you.

Speaker 2:
[26:06] I got you.

Speaker 4:
[26:06] Yo, what?

Speaker 2:
[26:07] The merch shit?

Speaker 3:
[26:07] I got you. I got you.

Speaker 2:
[26:09] We slippin, dog. That, Burnham, man, told me, yo, bro, I don't even want to... You know, sometimes you're like talking personal conversations you have because they won't talk to you again.

Speaker 3:
[26:19] Bernie like that.

Speaker 2:
[26:21] He killin them. He is destroying them.

Speaker 3:
[26:24] That in a wheelchair right now. Performing, though.

Speaker 2:
[26:27] You lying. What happened? I seen the.

Speaker 3:
[26:29] I think he tore his fibula and some shit like that.

Speaker 2:
[26:31] Ah, nah, ain't even athletic. How you do that? A blank? You can't smoke a blunt and turn to fib and tear to fib.

Speaker 4:
[26:42] Yo!

Speaker 2:
[26:45] How you rolling up and tear the fib?

Speaker 4:
[26:48] ain't even athletic.

Speaker 2:
[26:49] Yo, chill.

Speaker 4:
[26:51] It's true.

Speaker 2:
[26:51] Yo, it's true. is not athletic. Those are like sports injuries. My like, yo.

Speaker 3:
[26:58] When I seen it, I was like, how the fuck did he do that? But I seen it on the internet, but then I also seen him in front of like 5,000 people. Like last night, I said, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[27:06] Get better, my, man. Get the fib right, man. Damn. I remember I broke my shit, man. In Miami, I got hit by a cab riding them scooters and they had to do Summer Jam in the wheelchair. I thought I was biggie because God bless. I seen when Big got in his car accident, he had a show and he had the girl wheeling him around. So I thought I'd do that at Summer Jam. It wasn't that legendary. It wasn't that legendary. No one remembers it.

Speaker 4:
[27:36] He said it wasn't that legendary.

Speaker 2:
[27:38] If it was legendary in my mind.

Speaker 3:
[27:42] Nah, that's what I don't remember though.

Speaker 2:
[27:43] Word, what keeps you grounded in this business? Being through, having all the relationships you have, being through all the situations, deals, independent, records not going like you wanted to go. What keeps you grounded as an artist? The way you like, man, I'ma still stay focused. You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of, they tend to give up and not know how close they was.

Speaker 3:
[28:08] Yo, I ain't gon lie, I'll be one of them artists, like I used to be, where it's like, man, fuck this shit. And then there'll always be one thing to bring me right back. But just being persistent, you know what I mean? And just knowing that this shit is a marathon for real.

Speaker 2:
[28:23] That's a fact.

Speaker 3:
[28:23] You know what I mean? So like, I guess keeping me grounded also is looking at people that actually gave up, you know what I mean? And not saying maliciously, like respectfully, like, I don't want to be like this. I gotta keep it going, you know what I mean? And obviously, you know, the people that believe in me that I'm actually doing this for them too, you know what I mean? So it's like, I can't give up. them been, them came too far anyway. So it's like, I ain't come this far to just come this far.

Speaker 2:
[28:57] That's a fact. That's a fact. That's a bar. I ain't come this far just to come this far. That's a bar. I think, boy, French just said that, right? It's a new joint. We're him and...

Speaker 3:
[29:08] Max?

Speaker 2:
[29:08] Yeah, we're him and Max, man. Shout out the wave, the Coke wave.

Speaker 3:
[29:11] The Coke wave.

Speaker 2:
[29:12] See? Yeah, I'm 50. The Coke wave. They got me back on the Coke wave.

Speaker 4:
[29:20] Man, they turn this shit up too.

Speaker 2:
[29:22] Almost on the fifth floor and I'm on the Coke wave. Shit is bad. Music influencing the old heads now. So out of everything, man, like you do the sports, you got your sports entertainment thing, man. You got the brand companies, you do the music. What's the most fun you think? You can't say all three.

Speaker 3:
[29:44] Nah, all three ain't the most fun. Because, you know, obviously, we came up smoking Buds. So just to be able to move how we move with the weed is like, that's unfathomable. We can't fathom that being from where we from.

Speaker 2:
[30:01] New York, y'all gonna wait till I move to legalize it after y'all unlock me up in every county, been to every precinct, pay every fine.

Speaker 3:
[30:13] For the Buds.

Speaker 2:
[30:14] And every time I got locked up, there's always a school zone around where the fine go extra 500 because you in the school zone. I got locked up on a GW and they said I was in the school zone. Where the fuck is there a school on the bridge? Word. And this is when they came out with the Mason Jaws. My just lit the air when the cop right there, the smoke going up, looked like a cartoon, the smoke going up, he saw me. pulled me over. This is one of the funny stories. We're going to go back. I'm sorry, but I got to tell this story because got the Mason Jaws. If you know a Chia Pet, that's what the Mason Jaws felt like looking with a stash in the car. That shit felt like it was growing as the cop was walking up. It was growing more. Like, I just put the shit on the dashboard, like, fuck it. Ain't no way to put this shit.

Speaker 3:
[31:11] And sit on court.

Speaker 2:
[31:12] I'm on the court. So of course he take me out the car, take us to the precinct. We get down there. I got the bleek on my arm, tatted. The go to take pictures. You got tattoos, know how they hit you with that. Me take pictures, take a picture of my tattoo. He look and say, you Memphis Bleek? I'm looking at the like, well, I just, you think I'm a, I'm that much of a fan, You bugging? Like, was like, come on, man, tour the shit up and let us go. Word, my on some G shit. Like, I'm a fan, rock for life, Why you ain't say that on the bridge? Like, I ain't know that shit work. Next term, hey, y'all heard of ROC-A-Fella?

Speaker 4:
[31:54] said, I ain't know that shit work. Word up, my.

Speaker 2:
[31:59] Yo, my bad, but that weed story you just said made me think about that, man. But I was asking you-

Speaker 3:
[32:05] The most fun.

Speaker 2:
[32:06] Yeah, what you have the most fun or the most intriguing thing that you wake up and drives you the most, give you that push?

Speaker 3:
[32:13] Right now is the wrestling shit. I'm having the most fun in the world with that shit right now. Cause it's like, you know, it's a new business. And I'm getting to like mingle with people that I grew up watching. And I'm learning, not from a fan perspective, but from the business perspective, like behind the curtain actually being, you know, one of the owners of a wrestling promotion. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[32:40] And that's different.

Speaker 3:
[32:42] It's super different because we indie, but we work on a major structure. So I'm learning so much and I'm getting to put my knowledge of being a fan for 41 years to test. So I'm having the most fun with that shit. I mean, just creating matches and putting new wrestlers on, giving shots, you know what I mean? And just being embedded in the game.

Speaker 2:
[33:07] So we can sign wrestlers.

Speaker 3:
[33:09] For sure.

Speaker 2:
[33:09] Cheecho! Fight us a wrestler, dog. Somebody in the hood think they got that bat skill. Fight us a wrestler. We wrestling entertainment now. You know what I mean? Yo, so shit, you been in, let's go. Top five, all time wrestlers.

Speaker 3:
[33:26] Top five, all time, in order?

Speaker 2:
[33:28] No, no, no order.

Speaker 3:
[33:30] All right, well, I'ma go, my number one is Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 2:
[33:33] That's right, I don't care.

Speaker 3:
[33:35] Despite whatever?

Speaker 2:
[33:36] Yeah, despite the controversy, know they was a Hulk-a-Maniac.

Speaker 3:
[33:40] I was, and not for nothing, Bluezu, that was my man.

Speaker 2:
[33:44] Oh, you knew him?

Speaker 3:
[33:45] I knew, that was my man.

Speaker 2:
[33:46] I never met him. And they say he was racist. Come on, dog, you darker than me. You know what I mean? Like, dog.

Speaker 3:
[33:56] You know what I mean? Like, I went and had dinner with him a couple of years ago. He, that was my man. And you know, shout out to Nick, his son, Nick. Nick's still my homie today. But Hogan, Chris Jericho, I love Chris Jericho because he got the fucking art of reinventing, you know what I mean? That reinvented for the last 30 years. Just every year is something different. And he done won every championship and every promotion. Stone Cold Steve Austin, you know what I mean? He ushered in to add an era in wrestling that...

Speaker 2:
[34:34] That came in drinking a beer. That crack a can of beer on your head. Straight up, with the bad leg too. That had the stinky leg early.

Speaker 4:
[34:48] With the knee brace and the jorts though.

Speaker 3:
[34:51] And the jorts.

Speaker 2:
[34:52] Word, yo.

Speaker 3:
[34:53] Had the jorts before John Cena. He just wasn't wrestling in them, but he's coming out with the jorts, the can of beer and the middle finger.

Speaker 2:
[35:00] Yo.

Speaker 3:
[35:00] I mean, Undertaker.

Speaker 2:
[35:03] The Undertaker changed the game. They can come out, shake the rope on you and choke you out.

Speaker 3:
[35:08] Yeah, because we knew it wasn't... It's not a human walk in the earth that's like the Undertaker, but we all took him serious. You know what I mean? Like, he had the art of making the fans believe.

Speaker 2:
[35:19] But it was rumors about him. They were saying they doubled the Undertaker. Like, they put a new Undertaker in there.

Speaker 3:
[35:26] Not a I. So that was 1995 when they did an Undertaker vs Undertaker thing for SummerSlam. And they had Primetime Brian Lee playing Undertaker. So, just to confuse.

Speaker 2:
[35:37] They said that with the Ultimate Warrior II before, that they doubled, he was a double.

Speaker 3:
[35:41] Nah, they said he was a Cary Vaughn Eric, but nah, that's not true. That's just people, just chatting. But my number five is probably Shawn Michaels. Heartbreak Kid.

Speaker 2:
[35:52] That's right, that's right. The Heartbreak Kid, my. what was it? The Heartbreak Foundation, or what was it?

Speaker 3:
[35:59] Nah, that's the Heart Foundation.

Speaker 2:
[36:00] The Heart Foundation, yeah, man, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[36:02] Nah, that's Bret Hart and Jim the Anvil.

Speaker 2:
[36:04] Yo, that, see, I was a tag team, because them niggas, the Killer B's, the Road Warriors.

Speaker 3:
[36:12] See, that's your era right there.

Speaker 2:
[36:13] Yeah, my, yeah, the Road Warriors was my shit. Yeah, before they merged it, when it was the NWA.

Speaker 3:
[36:22] Yeah. Before they went to WCW.

Speaker 2:
[36:24] Before they merged, it was WCW and WWF. Then they merged, they made it, what, WWE?

Speaker 3:
[36:31] All right, so WWE came because WWF is the World Wide Wildlife Federation. So they had like, they lost a dispute to them. So they had to take the F and turn it into E. And it's sports entertainment. Like, they didn't, WWE don't, they're not like, cold wrestling.

Speaker 2:
[36:49] That shit is insane, man. I told you Jake the Snake was my, put the snake on you. Word. Then you had my man, Animal Steel eat the turnbuckle.

Speaker 3:
[37:04] You know, he was a judge in real life.

Speaker 2:
[37:06] Who?

Speaker 3:
[37:07] George the Animal Steel.

Speaker 2:
[37:08] Nah, chill. But, you know what a lot of these young need?

Speaker 3:
[37:13] What?

Speaker 2:
[37:14] The Iron Sheik move. Nope. Remember, back in the day, niggas was practicing the moves on niggas in the hood.

Speaker 3:
[37:40] I'm telling you.

Speaker 2:
[37:41] Put a little in the Campbell Clutch.

Speaker 3:
[37:43] I'm telling you. That's how was getting put to sleep.

Speaker 2:
[37:45] Yeah. What's my?

Speaker 3:
[37:47] Put the Ted DiBiase Man Dollar Dream on a.

Speaker 2:
[37:50] All my men, damn, when they was the fucking NWO, what's my man had the slick hair with the toothpick?

Speaker 3:
[37:58] Scott Hall.

Speaker 2:
[37:59] Nah, that water juice. Razor Ramon. He put you in his... Come on. These young dropping these flags, my. I'm telling you, you'll get a young to get out the gang.

Speaker 3:
[38:11] Not off the wrestler move.

Speaker 2:
[38:14] Yo, the Iashique came in with the bent up shoes and kicked ass.

Speaker 3:
[38:20] Iashique was like that.

Speaker 2:
[38:21] Yeah, he was like that, my. That's what's up, man. So let me ask you this. You gave me your top five wrestlers. Top five all time smoking rap.

Speaker 3:
[38:33] Oh, nobody asked me that.

Speaker 2:
[38:35] Yeah, man.

Speaker 3:
[38:36] Oh, all right, no order. I'm going to go with Khalifa.

Speaker 2:
[38:44] He got to be up there.

Speaker 3:
[38:45] Yeah, he up there. Currency, of course.

Speaker 2:
[38:51] Got to be.

Speaker 3:
[38:57] Kiss and styles, actually. We got to put them together.

Speaker 2:
[39:00] As a group, okay.

Speaker 3:
[39:02] Kiss and styles. I love smoking with them niggas and hearing stories. So that's three. You.

Speaker 2:
[39:13] Me? Oh, shit, I'm in the Smoker Horlicks.

Speaker 3:
[39:16] You in there. Four, and then my fifth one. My fifth one, I'm gonna put Dog in there, cause this nigga Snoop always fuck. Anytime I ever smoke with this, I be coughing and shit. I be wild and embarrassed.

Speaker 2:
[39:30] I got beef with Snoop. It's up. It's up. Every time I see Snoop, it's up. That only smoke me out, where I'm like, yo, fam, I'm done. I'm too high. I can't smoke no more. Twice. You know how the first time it happened, I'm like, this shit ain't happening again. Next time I see this thing, I don't care how many blunts he roll. This shit ain't happening again. And then I get up with him again and I'm like, this.

Speaker 3:
[39:57] It happened again.

Speaker 2:
[39:58] That, my. Yo, I got a picture with Daz and Snoop and Corrupt in the fucking picture. It's so much smoke in the room, the smoke look like it's posing with us for the flick. Word, my, Snoop, it's up. He don't even know it's beef. He don't even know it's beef. It's up. Soon as I see you, 400 road.

Speaker 3:
[40:22] Nah, dog be smoking me out.

Speaker 2:
[40:24] Word. I was waiting for you. I was going to be like, no, Snoop. But then, nah, my top five smoking rappers from my era, I got to put, if you put a group, I got to put the dog, pal. Got to put Snoop. I got to put my Xzibit. Got to.

Speaker 3:
[40:44] Let me see if you miss one. I bunch y'all two up together on the weed shit.

Speaker 2:
[40:50] Who else? I got to put up there, man. I got to put Red MF as a group too.

Speaker 3:
[40:55] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[40:56] Without Red MF, I'd be smoking sticks and seeds in my weed. I felt like Biggie was talking to me. You still pick seeds out your weed. I felt like that shit was a straight shot at me because I was at some show and I'm throwing mad shit and then I heard the verse and I'm like, that was talking about me. Biggie shitted on me. That was about me. That was about you? Yeah. Red MF, we got to LA and they was like, what you smoking on? I showed them, they like, come on little bro, come with me. They took me to the homie and I got some shit and that changed my life. So they got to go up there. Who else from my era that was a major smoker fucking holly.

Speaker 3:
[41:39] See, I think about backstage when it was you and Jai.

Speaker 2:
[41:42] No, Jai's a smoker only, but Jai... Yo, I love my bros, man. I love you, Jai. You know I love you, you my. But Jai still smoke dispensary weed. He don't care. Like, you know his levels to this shit. Jai don't, he don't care. He smoking, it don't matter, like, rolling. He don't care, so that's why I rhyme. No, he up there, he an honorary mention. But nope, I don't care cause you my man. Nope, nope, you my man. Who else? I'm trying to think. Cause it's a few niggas that I done burnt it down with. We done blazed it. Yo, this one out in the left field, will never think. Paused in his name, though. It's 2026, too, you my bro, you might have to change your name. Mr. Cheeks.

Speaker 3:
[42:40] Word?

Speaker 2:
[42:40] You definitely gotta change your name.

Speaker 3:
[42:42] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:42] It's 2026, I love you, my. We can't call you Mr. Cheeks. Not 2026, my.

Speaker 3:
[42:50] I didn't even know he was a Buddha head like that.

Speaker 4:
[42:51] What?

Speaker 2:
[42:52] The Lost Boys, yo, I was in Miami, one of the illest smoking sessions I had, I'm in Miami, it's me, Mr. Cheeks and Corrupt.

Speaker 4:
[43:01] Wow.

Speaker 2:
[43:02] Like, would never think, and them my niggas, bro, like, man, Cheeks, you gotta pull up. We gotta talk about this new name in 2026. We reinvent, I'm Blizzle, we changing his name. Fuck that. That's my dog.

Speaker 3:
[43:17] I'd like to get an alternative.

Speaker 2:
[43:18] He gonna wanna fight me when he see me cause he from back in the day. You know be like that? I'll see you and be like, yo, you owe me five minutes. You owe me five minutes. You know a see you and be like, yo, five minutes.

Speaker 3:
[43:29] I ain't got nothing to do with that.

Speaker 4:
[43:30] I ain't got nothing to do with that.

Speaker 2:
[43:35] Nah, but Cheeks up there, he a smokin ass too, man. I gotta put him up there cause he blow it down heavy with your boy.

Speaker 4:
[43:41] Word.

Speaker 2:
[43:42] Another thing, man, what's your take on the direction you feel New York music scene is going?

Speaker 3:
[43:58] That's a tough question. Cause I want to take myself out of it and answer it non-biased. I think it's interesting. I'm not really a fan of drill music like that, but I respect anybody getting money from any craft and it's art, art is art.

Speaker 2:
[44:23] I think the way you might want to say it is the way I say it. I'm a fan of drill music, just not the actual real crime you're rapping about in the music. Because if it's a real crime, I don't like it. It's now feel like an informant. You told me too much information. Like my daughter say, TMI.

Speaker 3:
[44:42] It's TMI. But I'm a fan of people that's saying something. Yes. I like artists like Fergie Baby. I like Jay-Wan. I like Ka Cash. I like Joey Badass.

Speaker 2:
[45:00] Joey B.

Speaker 3:
[45:01] Spade. You know what I'm saying? And obviously, you know Griselda clearly.

Speaker 2:
[45:06] Yo, them, I told, I seen Benny in Atlanta, I told that, y'all gotta have a plantation where y'all breed in these fucking artists.

Speaker 3:
[45:15] Like mutants.

Speaker 2:
[45:16] Like, it gotta be. Cause come on, man. How you just defining 38, Stove Guard. Like, first of all, we still dealing with West Side, Benny. We ain't even digest y'all niggas yet. And y'all coming with new niggas.

Speaker 3:
[45:31] Nah, but the ill part is the that you name, they been around. You know what I'm saying? Like, I got a record with Special in 06, me Special Nipsey. So Special Ben dumping. Yeah, Rest In Peace, Nip.

Speaker 2:
[45:42] Yo, Nip was, man, he was on his way, bro. Every time I listen to that album, I'm like, he was so, he was that close to taking this whole shit over, bro. It's crazy.

Speaker 3:
[45:55] Yeah, they robbed us of him.

Speaker 2:
[45:57] So, another question, right? Cause you know how a lot of rappers be like, I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler. I'm a hustler that rap. So do you feel like you're a rapper with a brand, or do you feel like you're a brand that just rap?

Speaker 3:
[46:13] Shit, that's a great question. I'm both. I'm both. Regardless, rap or not, I'ma find some way to get some money. That's right.

Speaker 2:
[46:26] Hustler, baby.

Speaker 3:
[46:27] So that's the hustler spirit. You know what I mean? I'm a Harlem, I figure it out.

Speaker 2:
[46:31] Yeah, all the work. Yeah, all the work. Harlem all day. Couldn't even walk two steps. Got it right here. Right here. Fiskelle, Fiskelle, Fiskelle. Bobby, Bobby. You like, I came to buy some sneakers. Fuck, I don't want no Coke today.

Speaker 3:
[46:47] Bro, bro. Don't get hit with the rabbit food. Oh my Jesus Christ. Had that real zip and then go in the building, hit you with the rabbit food. Come out a hole in the door, hit you with the rabbit food, come out a hole in another building, you be looking for that for three years.

Speaker 4:
[47:02] That's a fact.

Speaker 3:
[47:04] So you give up, like, fuck it, it was just 400.

Speaker 2:
[47:06] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[47:07] I mean, but I'm both, you know what I mean? Because I'm definitely a rapper, you know what I mean? It's like niggas that be on the internet, like, I ain't an internet, saying it on the internet.

Speaker 2:
[47:16] You are internet now, you on the internet.

Speaker 4:
[47:19] You made that announcement on the internet.

Speaker 3:
[47:20] You are internet, I'm definitely a rapper.

Speaker 2:
[47:23] That's a fact.

Speaker 3:
[47:24] 1,000%.

Speaker 2:
[47:25] That's a fact, man. Respect, man. So when it's all said and done, and you chilling, got that J, grandkids running around, because you might be on J's by then. It might not be a blunt. You might go for a paper game. You know what I mean? Me too, I might be there with you.

Speaker 3:
[47:39] Slowly, slowly.

Speaker 2:
[47:40] But I don't know. It's hard, it's difficult.

Speaker 3:
[47:43] We gonna get there. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[47:45] But you know what I mean? What you want your legacy to be, outside of just being a Harlem, New York rapper, what do you want people to remember Smoke for?

Speaker 3:
[47:57] Um, somebody that put that shit on, somebody that, uh, somebody that was authentic to his mission and just to himself, you know what I mean? Uh, a wordsmith, you know what I mean? And, uh, just somebody that never, I never hit the plug, you know what I mean? Like, I'm always, I'm always, uh, I'm always giving somebody a link, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not trying to hide the plug. I've always shared my platform with anybody that was around me. So, somebody that gave back, you know what I mean? To the culture. And then, you know, anytime, like I said, I said this in another interview, but this is about to be my shit. Anytime you smoke some good weed, thank you to God.

Speaker 2:
[48:56] Ah, that's what's up, man. Hell yeah, man. What's one thing you, ah, it's a question people ask me, so I'm trying to figure out the right way to ask you. That you felt like, and I took this thing from zero to a hundred, that you're most proud of, that you look back and say, this is exactly how I planned it.

Speaker 3:
[49:21] Wow. I think the Smoke DZA brand. You know what I mean? That's definitely something I took from zero to a hundred. Where it's like, you know, sometimes when I'm telling stories and I'm like, damn, that really fucking happened. I mean, cause it's like, I never sat with something for a little while. And it was just like, I never celebrated a move for more than a day of it happening. Like the next day I'm like, I'm trying to do new, I'm trying to create new history. So I think the Smoke DZA brand from zero to a hundred to see where it came, where it's where I started and where I'm at today. Yeah, I'm proud of that.

Speaker 2:
[50:04] That's what's up, man. So what's next, man? What's next? What could people expect? What's next from Smoke, man? You know what I mean? Like what you got, what you working on? What people should expect? Like, you know what I mean? 2026 is the year to host, man.

Speaker 3:
[50:19] Yeah, nah, for sure. For sure. I mean, definitely more music. I think I'm winding down with the music a little bit. I think I'm like on like a three year watch. You know what I mean? Give or take. But definitely more music. Trying to collab with everybody that I love and respect. We need to get that blizzard when there's a tape.

Speaker 2:
[50:46] Let's do it, man. Come on, man. I'm working.

Speaker 3:
[50:49] You know what I mean? And obviously, Don't Smoke Rock II with P-Rock. I got a crazy record that I'm about to drop with three of the people that love. You know what I mean? I'm going to just say, I got a record with Currency West and Max B. Ooh. That's how I'm going to kick the year off. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, by the time this interview drop, that joiner be out. And then Fourth Rope, you know what I mean? Fourth Rope is really what... That's what I need everybody to be invested in right now.

Speaker 2:
[51:28] Fourth Rope. Turnbuckle shit. Jump off the Fourth Rope on your cousin head tie.

Speaker 3:
[51:32] I got my flyaway champion in here.

Speaker 2:
[51:34] You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3:
[51:35] This guy right here.

Speaker 2:
[51:36] Come on, man. Come on, man. Nah, nah. You the champ, man.

Speaker 3:
[51:40] You the champ.

Speaker 2:
[51:41] What's up, fam? Happy New Year, my guy.

Speaker 3:
[51:44] I got the flyaway champion. Take your jewelry, man.

Speaker 4:
[51:48] It's Earth.

Speaker 3:
[51:50] The real one. You and Westside God give an opportunity to pro wrestlers all over the place.

Speaker 2:
[51:56] It's been a blessing for us, for real. Real one.

Speaker 3:
[52:00] Just showing love.

Speaker 4:
[52:01] Appreciate y'all.

Speaker 2:
[52:02] I got you, man.

Speaker 4:
[52:02] I love talking about wrestlers.

Speaker 2:
[52:04] That's right, man. New Tag had karate and all that shit. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[52:07] These guys have been throwing wrestlers in their bars for years. So they got their own promotion now.

Speaker 2:
[52:12] That's right.

Speaker 3:
[52:13] We out here hustling, man.

Speaker 2:
[52:14] We working hard. That's right, man. Much respect, man. Definitely, man.

Speaker 3:
[52:18] Motherfucking brother, the real one. But yeah, get on YouTube, subscribe to 4th Rope. Follow us on Instagram. Make sure you pull up to one of the shows. Come get some of that good merch. Come catch the real one live. Catch the Hardy Boys, our tag team champions, live. Catch Zilla 5-2, our world champion, live, and then the whole 4th Rope roster. I'm hoping to have you there this year.

Speaker 2:
[52:40] Come on, hell yeah.

Speaker 3:
[52:41] We tried to get it last year.

Speaker 2:
[52:42] I know, man.

Speaker 3:
[52:43] This year, we're going to get it right.

Speaker 2:
[52:44] I'm there this year. I'm there. Cheecho, locking the gate.

Speaker 3:
[52:49] Now, we're going to get it right. But yeah, man, just expect all cool shit, man. Cool, authentic, original culture shit.

Speaker 2:
[52:59] That's exactly why I fuck with you, bro. That's why you a solid, man. You always going to be family, man. We need more cool in the world. It's fake, tough guy shit. Please stop or we're going to have a nigga throw you off the fourth rope on your head, Please. You know what it is. It's ROC Solid. Doucet. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[53:20] Oh, shout out Cha-Cha Charlie, man. Josh Bishop, Joe Alonzo.

Speaker 2:
[53:25] You already know. He's silent. This ROC Solid, Smoke DZA, fourth rope, baby Doucet.

Speaker 3:
[53:31] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
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