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Speaker 1:
[00:01] Hey, y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa with the Latest with Lauren LaRosa on Black Effect. And I cannot wait to see you guys at the 4th Annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. We are coming back to Atlanta, Georgia on Saturday, April 25th at Pullman Yards. And it's hosted by me alongside DJ Envy and Charlamagne tha God. We got Drink Chance with Noriega and DJ FM. We got Keep It Positive Sweetie with my girl, Crystal Renee Hayslett. We got Reality with the King with my guy, and my brother, Carlos King. And y'all know he does reality commentary like nobody can. Now we also have Don't Call Me White Girl, the podcast. I love Mona and Club 520 Podcast, along with the Grits and Eggs Podcast. So this lineup, stacked baby. You're also going to want to check out the panels that we have lined up too, featuring Kev On Stage, Tika Sumter, and John-Hulk Bryant, just to name a few. Of course, it's way bigger than podcast. We're bringing the Black Effect Marketplace with Black-owned businesses, plus the food truck court to keep you fed while you visit us. Okay? Listen, you don't want to miss this. Tap in and grab your ticket now at blackeffect.com/podcastfestival.
Speaker 2:
[01:12] BIG BANK & DJ SCREAM bring you BIG FACTS, the number one podcast in the streets.
Speaker 3:
[01:20] Live from Revolt Studios, you know what it is, it's time for that BIG FACTS. BIG BANK is here, DJ Scream is here, Multiple Streams Podcast movement in the building. BAM, what's up? Welcome to BIG FACTS.
Speaker 4:
[01:29] What's up, man? What's up, my boy? What's up, Richie, man? My hiking buddy, BAMK, man.
Speaker 3:
[01:34] For sure.
Speaker 4:
[01:35] Can't f*** with y'all pimpin, man. You know what I mean?
Speaker 5:
[01:37] BAM, you been doing your s*** lately, bro. You been talking.
Speaker 4:
[01:39] Appreciate it, man. You know, you need people like you to goddamn show a n***a that it's possible. I'm putting work in, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5:
[01:46] You doing that.
Speaker 4:
[01:47] Appreciate that, though.
Speaker 3:
[01:48] How'd it all start for you, like, just from the top of like, how did you transition into like the Multiple Streams Podcast, you know what I'm saying? And just basically hustling and creating different ways to get money and make a name for yourself.
Speaker 4:
[02:00] So I never was able to get no job coming up, bro. So the only way I could get something is by being creative and coming up with my own shit. You know, I was a little in the hood collecting cans and ate shit like that, trying to beat the J's. You know, if I seen somebody with a washing machine outside, you know me, stuff like that, man. So hearing the word no kind of just kind of forced me to be an entrepreneur. And then, you know, like, everybody I look up to got their own stage, whether they comedian, rapper or something. So when the podcast came out, like I can't rap. Not saying I can't do it, but I can't be a rapper. So then when that shit came out, you know what I mean? I was like, okay, cool. You know, it's my way to, for one, it's my way to talk to people about what they got going on. Cause I interview mostly entrepreneurs. You know, you go to a with money, they ain't really quick to tell you what they doing, how they doing it, but you telling me you got the platform, they'll sit down with you for an hour or two. So, and then just to give back, bro. You know what I mean? When I was coming up, it wasn't really a whole lot of ways to get no money. So I was like, you know, when it's my time and I figure out, you know, when it's my time, I'm pretty much, you know, tell people to do other shit. You know what I'm saying? Cause you know, I was an educated kid, but I still ended up, you know, hustling and shit like that. And it's like, you know, I don't necessarily regret it, but I'm like, if it was other folks showing me different ways to do it, shit, I would have been doing that. You know what I mean? So that's how that came about. Just like I say, everybody I look up to got their own stage and then, you know, I just felt like, you know, when it started kind of going up, you know, in like 2020-ish, I was just like, shit, I can do that. You know what I mean? I could see myself doing that. I couldn't do comedy, bro. I was in the hood one day, I tried to practice stand up comedy, I couldn't even get that right. One time I tried to record a song, I'm with bro, what up, man? We couldn't, I couldn't, I had the words and everything written down, I couldn't get four sentences out. Yeah, Hell yeah, I could do this though, you feel what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:
[03:51] What you think like if somebody like, let's say if they financial situation is not in order or whatever the case may be, do you think in every particular situation is on them and they making excuses and not taking accountability for not doing what they supposed to do to handle their business? Or do you think sometimes somebody might just be down on their luck?
Speaker 4:
[04:12] Man, so you know, everybody, some people got so much bullshit in front of them, it's kind of hard to see light at the end of the tunnel. So it's like, your environment do a lot. You know what I mean? I was blessed to not have no super stressful environment coming up, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I ain't had no Jordans or nothing, but you know, my mom wasn't on no crack. You know what I mean? You know, like every time I look up, ain't nobody stealing, you know, stealing nothing from me or, you know, so your environment, so I can't say they making excuses, you know what I'm saying? They just might be in such a up environment that they can't even, they ain't got no access to a bank or Scream or BAM, you know what I mean? Nobody ever really told them that reading is cool or, you know, like my parents was educated, so some people parents are not, are the opposite, you know what I mean? And you know, some people parents only even know how to teach them how to read and all that type of shit. So I feel like some people environment can be fucked up, but it's still a way, because it's some people that made away from that, you know what I mean? Some that got crackhead parents, I mean, I ain't gonna say, it's some people that have parents that was, you know, crack babies. Yeah, they're just perk babies now, you know what I mean? So it's some people that overcame that, what they ain't make no excuse, but I'd be a fool to sit here and like, I'd be in the same situation if I ain't have my situation coming up. So I do feel like it's always resources, but you can't tell a to go to the library, you know what I'm saying? Like, especially if you ain't going to the library, then it's like the only form of success you really see as a black person sometimes, is a stripper, a drug dealer, or it might be a doctor or lawyer, something that's so high that you can't even really, like, I'm feeling mad, how the fuck am I gonna become a doctor? You know what I mean? I was just talking to my partner yesterday, he from Boston, and he was saying they didn't fathom going to school. I'm like, I got all them Ivy League schools. He like, how the am I gonna get an Ivy League? You know what I'm saying? So I just feel like some people's environment's so fucked up, it'd be hard for them to come up, you know what I mean, to be real with you.
Speaker 5:
[06:05] What's the main thing you think somebody might get from watching your podcast?
Speaker 4:
[06:08] So my whole goal, man, is I interview different people on my platform, Multiple Streams Podcast, different people that are doing different things. So you might not wanna do what BAM do. You know, my thing is I buy and sell trade. I'm at the hood pawn shop. But like yesterday, I interviewed a barber. I interviewed my dude, Ken Collier. Ken Collier, he going for state representative, District 62. And you know, I'm like, shit, if somebody just wanna make a change, how does that work? How do you get money from that? So the whole thing I really want them to do, you know, even if I interview a celebrity, I try to pull some personal development from it. So like the whole thing is, you know, finding different ways to become a better version of them. But I interview so many, I interview a lot of real coaches and consultants that actually, you know, if you go to follow them, they actually, they whole job is to show people what to do. You know what I mean? I interview lawyers, medical couriers. One of my first interviews with my homegirl, Crystal, she got a plant store. Never knew you could run a plant store other than weed. You see what I'm saying? So I feel like if you look at that, you could find your mentor, you know what I'm saying, for the most part. So yeah, that's the main goal, for real, for real, you know.
Speaker 5:
[07:18] You feel like you're walking your purpose?
Speaker 4:
[07:20] I feel like I'm flying in there, I can be real with you, bro, cause I mean.
Speaker 5:
[07:24] And what is that?
Speaker 4:
[07:25] I think my purpose is to get this money and show other people how to get this money, and then show people how to be the better version. Anybody know me coming up, I ain't had shit growing up. I ain't never had no Jordans, I wasn't ever fresh. You know what I mean? I wasn't ever, you know, it took a little minute to get here, so I'm on some shit. Like, if I could do it, you could do it. For real, for real, especially if you come from a similar situation, you know what I mean? For real, for real.
Speaker 3:
[07:48] What's three red flags? This is for everybody. Three red flags are scammers.
Speaker 4:
[07:53] So we can scam us, so we can keep people.
Speaker 3:
[07:54] What's the things you should start noticing if a, somebody trying to scam you out of a situation with some money, some red flag?
Speaker 4:
[08:01] As a that's been a victim. So for one man, somebody, if it's too good to be true, like if somebody, for instance, if somebody online, they tell you, you can make $5 million in 2026, these three steps. Ain't no goddamn three steps. You could show somebody how to make 10 stacks. You could, you know, if you can make 10 stacks, you might be making 100, but the million that shit, that come from really being the real best version of you, really making them connections and all that stuff. One, they make it look easy. That shit is really sleazy. You dig what I'm saying? So that's number one. Number two, number two, man, understand, man, by the time somebody come to you, they probably need you a lot more than you need them. And you don't even know it. You feel what I'm saying? So that's number two. And if you just online and you looking for a mentor, I say, if they not really willing to give you no type of game for the frisky, like meaning everything a charge, everything a charge, like, you know, anybody with real game, no, you can give somebody a couple crumbs and, you know, they can lead, you know, they can lead to a piece of bread, but ain't nobody finna just give you no loaf, you know what I'm saying? So, so, you know, if they making it look too easy, that's number one. If they come to you for it, if they supposed to have it, but they come to you, that means they probably need you more than you really need them. And you just don't even know it. As a victim, I'm going through shit right now. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5:
[09:20] How do even get caught up in that shit? Like, it's just like believing in Santa Claus to me. Like, so it's a online finna show you how to get rich. Like, that seems, that don't even seem like it.
Speaker 3:
[09:31] be desperate though.
Speaker 5:
[09:31] Even if it's some real shit out there, even if not knocking somebody who might do it, they might know how to do it, whatever, but that shit, that just look like a telemarketer to me. It don't even look like no shit I'm supposed to be looking at.
Speaker 3:
[09:45] Some be desperate. Think about this, we said in the episode, now listen, we said in the episode a little while ago, I mean to an extent, to an extent, not knocking all of them, to an extent, when you sign a record deal, it's a scam, right? It's based on selling.
Speaker 5:
[09:58] But getting some. I ain't giving you something to get some.
Speaker 3:
[10:02] Got you.
Speaker 5:
[10:03] You at least get a little money. Back in the day, they used to be like, hey man, if you send $500, we're going to send you back $10,000. Right. was actually sending the $500. Right.
Speaker 3:
[10:17] Some people be desperate, bro. I feel what you said.
Speaker 5:
[10:19] But I'm saying, bro, so you got to do the math on this shit. If I send my $500, how many more dumbass people like me like this? So you're saying this man is going to give away a billion dollars for $100,000 or whatever.
Speaker 3:
[10:35] You are correct.
Speaker 5:
[10:36] He's going to get $500,000. He's just going to give away, I'm lucky.
Speaker 3:
[10:39] Have you ever been scammed? I have.
Speaker 5:
[10:42] Any type of scam? Hell yeah, I've been scammed, like buying shit. Buying shit, but I'm trying to buy a product. I remember one time I tried to buy something offline and they sent me the tracking number and everything. You know how you try to buy something? It would come from overseas. They sent me the tracking number and everything. They sent me a letter, a picture. They sent me a picture of the item.
Speaker 3:
[11:04] But you were scammed.
Speaker 5:
[11:05] But that ain't no same thing as me trying to get rich, King. I'm not finna goddamn buy no mentor. I'm not even finna try to go to a seminar.
Speaker 3:
[11:17] So talk about your husband and I'll get into mine. So how were you scammed? When you say you're in the middle of some shit now?
Speaker 4:
[11:23] Man, well, I mean, I ain't going to say I'm a victim of a scam. It's just somebody like, you know, the situation I'm in now, it's just kind of like what you said. Somebody presented me with a nice opportunity. It was paperwork involved and the shit is still an opportunity. They just not holding their hand at the bargain up. You dig what I'm saying?
Speaker 5:
[11:43] So that business though.
Speaker 4:
[11:44] Yeah, that business.
Speaker 5:
[11:45] You know what I mean?
Speaker 4:
[11:47] Yeah, but as far as, but we talking about like online scams when people just, like you said, believe in it Santa Claus, like, you know, like I feel like they are coaches because I teach people shit too. But I mean, I only be charging for most of the shit. I be really wanting folks to learn something. You know what I mean? Sometimes that's why I don't make the money. You know what I'm saying? It be a lot of people that get support and I ain't gonna say they just flat out scamming, but a lot of these folks these days, they took a little bit of game and now they present like they got all the game and they trying to sell this shit to all the lambs. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5:
[12:18] I guess, I don't know. That's why people that I work with, you know what I'm saying? People that work with me and whatever, they be looking at me like, bro, you can charge for that. You know what I'm saying? You can charge for this, you can charge for that. Even the shit show. Like, bro, I can't charge no to audition. It's just me, bro. Even though you can, I can't do it. I can make my money off the patrons and the sponsorships and all that, bro. You chasing your dream. That's just how I look at it, bro. Other people look at shit in different, different. You fucked up. You need my help.
Speaker 4:
[12:51] I'm trying to be a service.
Speaker 5:
[12:53] Me charging you, I can get it from these people.
Speaker 4:
[12:55] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[12:57] I don't know, but I get it. It's all business.
Speaker 3:
[12:59] It be different stuff. Like for me, potentially, I know this is way back. The first time I tried to pay, that's a scam. I paid to get my credit fixed. That shit didn't work. But I was willing to take that risk. Cause my credit-
Speaker 5:
[13:10] That really ain't no scam either. Anybody can get got like that.
Speaker 4:
[13:12] That's still a scam though.
Speaker 3:
[13:14] If you pay money and then get shit back, you got scammed.
Speaker 5:
[13:16] I'm just saying, but I can see how you would go for that. Cause I try to get my credit fixed too. say they fit credit. Somebody vows and say they fit credit. That's different. I'm saying like, shit is just unbelievable. Like he said earlier, like, today is your lucky day. I'm finna make a hundred people a million now. Send me a homo-
Speaker 4:
[13:35] That's what they say too. First hundred people, God damn. But another thing too though, like when you come from like a street, any type of street background, you know a, you know a Big Worm was finna kill Smokey and Craig about two hundred dollars, really not even two hundred cause whatever, Smokey had something, he had about one something, whatever man. So when you come from that, your crunch is a little more like, I ain't finna play with nobody.
Speaker 6:
[13:58] Yeah, that's just how it go, bruh.
Speaker 5:
[14:00] If I can't do it like my heart, I ain't even gonna do it, You know what you gotta pay me for. If you're talking to me about my business, you gotta pay me for my business, this is what it is. But I ain't offering service. People be DMing me all the time, like, bruh, me and my wife wanna sit down with you, bro, you make some valid points, I want you to goddamn, and she respects you enough to have a company. I'm like, bro, I'm not finna do that. Because that's the shit you're gonna have to pay me to do. Yeah. Consult it, dog. That ain't even, I ain't in that game.
Speaker 3:
[14:31] Yeah, consult it.
Speaker 5:
[14:32] But then the bitch divorce you, you find out she cheat, and you listen to me, now you got a scam.
Speaker 4:
[14:36] Yeah. You give a lot of free game, though. Like you said something earlier, you got to lay on a bitch or lay down for a bitch or something like that.
Speaker 6:
[14:46] Yeah, yeah, exactly, bro.
Speaker 5:
[14:47] Now I was saying, that was posted, shout out to my dog, Big College, man. He posted one of my old videos. I was just like, back in the day, we used to play possum, you know what I'm saying? Like even with your girl, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6:
[14:59] Like shit fucked up, eh?
Speaker 5:
[15:01] And drag her ass about two months, like shit fucked up. See how she act? Are you different? Because shit fucked up, you might not even be fucked up.
Speaker 6:
[15:09] Yeah. Until that day, I'm fucked up forever. This shit just stuck on me forever. But shit fucked up.
Speaker 5:
[15:16] I'm a man I got. You know what I'm saying? saying this shit Scream probably get tired of me like, bro, I know you making money.
Speaker 6:
[15:23] But I call them like, man, we need some money, man. They like, it ain't that bad. It is. Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[15:29] Because I know what it feels like to be fucked up, fucked up.
Speaker 4:
[15:32] I was fucked up before.
Speaker 5:
[15:34] That shit feel horrible.
Speaker 3:
[15:36] Bad feeling. Bad feeling.
Speaker 5:
[15:39] A crying.
Speaker 4:
[15:41] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[15:41] ass crying.
Speaker 6:
[15:42] Bro, I'm broke.
Speaker 3:
[15:44] Bro, I'm broke.
Speaker 6:
[15:46] Bro, that shit, that shit will break your head down.
Speaker 4:
[15:48] Can't even get it up, I'm so broke, So hungry. So hungry. I can't even shit, You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:
[15:54] That's a good segue though. So in that moment, speaking to the hustlers out there, because there might be somebody on the ass right now, like, what's the first thing you got to do to bounce back?
Speaker 5:
[16:03] Drop your nut.
Speaker 4:
[16:04] As far as what? Like, what type of situation?
Speaker 3:
[16:06] Just if you down, bad. Everything ain't shaking.
Speaker 5:
[16:08] Drop your nuts, Everything you scared to do, do that. Everything you been holding on, I mean, whatever, bro. I'm saying this within business or anything, like, bro, you been scared to quit this job and go start, do something, quit that shit and go, whatever. Whatever is on your mind that you been thinking about, I should do, man, but I'ma keep doing this. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you're working a job, just say, if you're not working a job, if you're in the streets and that shit just ain't connecting for you, what you been thinking about, man, I need to get me a job.
Speaker 6:
[16:38] Get the job.
Speaker 5:
[16:39] Drop your nuts.
Speaker 6:
[16:40] Go get your job.
Speaker 5:
[16:42] Drop your pride. Drop your nuts.
Speaker 4:
[16:44] Go get you a job.
Speaker 3:
[16:45] Stop playing the safe.
Speaker 4:
[16:46] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[16:47] If you're working a job, knowing that you got an opportunity to put your all in something else that's your dream, drop your nuts and go chase your dream.
Speaker 3:
[16:56] Or don't complain if you still in the same place two years from now.
Speaker 5:
[17:00] Because if you're in this place and you feel fucked up, jeez, what's the difference of being fucked up over here chasing more money?
Speaker 4:
[17:07] Yeah. Yeah. You got to try it now and then. You got to just make sure you kick it with the right folks, man. You know what I mean? Don't kick it with the dumb, you know, the dumb dumb. You know what I mean? You got to kick it with folks that's trying to go somewhere, you know, pick up a book or, you know, switch your habit around or something.
Speaker 5:
[17:22] Facts.
Speaker 4:
[17:22] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[17:24] What's the biggest, what you think some of the biggest obstacles are for just people who become hustlers or entrepreneurs or whatever the case may be? What's some of the biggest obstacles?
Speaker 5:
[17:34] Trying to pull people up before you get up? That's the biggest thing, bro, by anybody. You try, you create too many, and I do the same shit at times when I've done this. You create too many bills, as in people, before you can even take care of your damn self.
Speaker 4:
[17:50] Yeah, it's a damn show. And just not-
Speaker 5:
[17:53] Responsibility, you create responsibilities as you grow. Like I know I'm finna, I know, I know it. I know my hustle.
Speaker 4:
[17:59] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[17:59] So now I'm finna create three, four responsibilities that I ain't even have to create.
Speaker 4:
[18:03] Yeah. And just ignorance, too. Some just, they gotta learn everything in the hard way. They can't learn shit the right way from nobody that's done it before. You know, they learn everything in the hard way, and that shit keeps sending your ass back. Every time you get a little money, you do a little one little thing and you fall out. You know what I mean? You keep every step forward, two steps back type shit. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[18:24] It's just the way of the world every day, man. be one of the god damn. So, we ain't know how long this shit from the lab, man. These folk playing some dangerous game with these walls and shit. They starting to talk about them other kind of missiles and shit.
Speaker 3:
[18:37] Amen.
Speaker 4:
[18:37] Man.
Speaker 5:
[18:38] So, if they get down like a doing all this saving, I'm like, I'm looking at them, I'm finna buy me something.
Speaker 6:
[18:44] this shit.
Speaker 5:
[18:45] I'm spending this shit, you know what I'm saying? Because you never know. Never know.
Speaker 6:
[18:48] Or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 5:
[18:50] just live your life. Whatever you want to do right now in that moment, that's the time to do it, bro. That's just how I look at it, bro. Anything. This shit is getting weirder and weirder. Weirder.
Speaker 3:
[18:58] It was just snowing, hailing, tornadoing, and sun out yesterday when we left.
Speaker 4:
[19:03] Front pressing buttons, bro.
Speaker 5:
[19:04] Man, we had the heat on last week. I mean, I had the air on last week.
Speaker 3:
[19:07] Air on last week, heat on last night.
Speaker 5:
[19:08] Heat on last night.
Speaker 3:
[19:09] Tornadoes in the air, it's snowing, it's hailing, and raining, and lightning.
Speaker 5:
[19:12] Food fucked up. Niggas moved all this retro-grade shit, wake up different every day. I'm already fucked up in the mind anyway. Sometimes hold ecoligal room off of shit.
Speaker 6:
[19:24] Real shit, man.
Speaker 5:
[19:25] Like, what the fuck is going on, man? I'm like, man, whenever I'm in my right mind, I'm gonna do what I want to do, because sometimes ain't even in their right mind. You right about that.
Speaker 4:
[19:33] Hell, nah. I just seen a, he was a crackhead crossing the street. As soon as he crossed the street, that walking normal as hell, on the way here, I'm like, what the fuck going on with my buddy?
Speaker 5:
[19:42] He's a transformer.
Speaker 4:
[19:44] That one minute, as soon as he hit cross street, that walking normal as hell.
Speaker 5:
[19:51] That's what I understand when people be online and everywhere's glitching, he'd be like, he going crazy. I'd be like, bro, I'm just containing this shit. I wanna go crazy. I see what he got moment. He just got hard.
Speaker 6:
[20:06] Right.
Speaker 5:
[20:08] I want to do the same shit worse.
Speaker 6:
[20:11] It's fucked up, bro.
Speaker 5:
[20:13] I don't know, man. Is it just me?
Speaker 3:
[20:16] No, it ain't you.
Speaker 6:
[20:18] It ain't you.
Speaker 3:
[20:18] It ain't you. It's everybody.
Speaker 5:
[20:22] I do want to crash out sometime.
Speaker 3:
[20:23] Don't crash out.
Speaker 5:
[20:24] Not only crash out, dummy, Mr. J crash out, bro. I don't know, bro.
Speaker 4:
[20:30] Man.
Speaker 5:
[20:31] I need therapy.
Speaker 3:
[20:33] This isn't your therapy, bro.
Speaker 5:
[20:34] No, I need shrink, though. I'm telling you, bro, be having some weird, crazy thoughts, man. Like, we're about to end, bro. this shit. Drop your mask. Let everybody know. We don't with.
Speaker 2:
[20:53] We don't eat this shit off your dick.
Speaker 3:
[20:55] Nah, as soon as you do that, all the wars gonna stop. Nah, you couldn't do that.
Speaker 5:
[21:00] But nah, nah, bullshit aside, it just, like, with all these wars and shit going on, that's all you seen on the news, it makes you think about enemy. Think about that type of energy. I'm telling you, make you start, it just, I don't know, it's just an energy in the air right now, man. I don't know if I'm the only one who can feel it or what.
Speaker 3:
[21:16] No, no, no, you're right. What you're saying is right.
Speaker 5:
[21:19] It's a hostile.
Speaker 3:
[21:20] It's a hostile energy.
Speaker 5:
[21:21] It's dog eat dog, like no trust nobody. Like, I don't even trust my dog no more. Like, man, what you looking at me? You might bite me, little fuck.
Speaker 6:
[21:30] like you're taking some bullshit going on. That 80s energy.
Speaker 3:
[21:35] That 80s energy. It was like that in the late 80s, crack era.
Speaker 5:
[21:38] I ain't never felt like this.
Speaker 3:
[21:40] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[21:41] Cause it's spiritual too. is putting this shit in their body too.
Speaker 3:
[21:46] Putting what in their body? Are you talking about the food?
Speaker 5:
[21:48] The food, bruh. It's something in that shit, bruh.
Speaker 3:
[21:50] Yeah. You ain't wrong.
Speaker 5:
[21:52] There's no way people are acting in the way they're acting. And I know y'all are gonna start a conspiracy theories on BAM episode. There's no way people are acting like so many people and it's normal. Like you gotta think, bruh, the shit that we feel like is just not normal, that we try to judge people for. They looking at us like we're crazy. Because it's normal to them. It's a chemical imbalance that's imbalanced on people that it's a new normal.
Speaker 3:
[22:16] You know, it's something just as powerful as that fool that fuck with that chemical imbalance though. That blue light.
Speaker 5:
[22:22] Where's that from?
Speaker 3:
[22:24] That's scientifically proven. You keep that blue light on your third eye like this.
Speaker 5:
[22:28] That probably will run on me then.
Speaker 3:
[22:32] It'll fuck with you. It's right there on your third eye. That blue light is gonna with you. It's gonna fuck with you. How many hours you say you'll be on the phone today?
Speaker 5:
[22:40] Shit, bro. That shit. I set a long on my shit to tell you to stop when you're on Instagram too long. But it got, this shit is retarded. It got three buttons like.
Speaker 3:
[22:50] Keep going.
Speaker 5:
[22:51] Keep going for 30 minutes. Keep going for an hour. Fuck it. I'm here the whole time like.
Speaker 4:
[23:00] Press the snooze on that.
Speaker 3:
[23:03] A lot of phones will get you. You got to be the best version of yourself you can be, man. This is a journey. It ain't forever. Do the best you can for you and the people you love and keep it simple. That's what I arrived at.
Speaker 5:
[23:14] What should you do to keep you focused, BAM?
Speaker 4:
[23:18] Man, for one, man, it's the routine, man. My routine is always going to go to like every single day, man. I'm in the gym, you know what I mean? And just other parts of my routine. Like I listen to a lot of self-development people online and they might say something about what you just said about social media. So I be trying to go the first couple of hours of my day without social media. But you know, sometimes this shit get done. Yeah, ticking and tacking.
Speaker 5:
[23:43] That's where a money at, too.
Speaker 4:
[23:44] Yeah, that would be, yeah.
Speaker 5:
[23:46] You want to watch your money, man. Watching them likes is watching your money. Basically, you're a these days, bro. They done fucked it up.
Speaker 4:
[23:52] Yeah, also meditation, man. I try to meditate for something simple like 10 minutes a day. You know what I mean? I used to try to do 30 minutes, but that shit killed me to be honest with you. But 10 minutes, I could do that in simple stuff like reading, like quiet, like, you know, quiet activities, you know what I'm saying? I might go outside, take the dogs outside, leave my phone in the crib. You know what I mean? Trying to be in one with nature, but I live in Buckhead. It ain't too much, you know, autumn trees and shit, fake. You know what I'm saying? But stuff like that, though, meditation, you know what I mean? Working out, you know, walking outside without the phone in my hand. You know what I'm saying? You know, I see a chick, I just tell her, follow me on IG. I can't get your number right now. Just follow me on G. You know what I mean? I ain't got my phone on me right now, man. But yeah, that's really about it, man. And you know, I try to do, I do a lot of gratitude shit too, bro. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I do prayer and gratitude go hand in hand. It's more so gratitude and prayer, but I just be like, man, I'm just thankful for what the hell I got going with the emotion I'm having right now, man. And you know, shit like that, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:
[24:51] What you think the most powerful conversation you don't have on your platform that reached and touched the most people?
Speaker 4:
[24:57] Man, I think one of the most powerful conversations I had was last night. It ain't dropped yet, man. I was talking to my boy Ken Collier and he just time out all the type of stuff that he trying to do to improve the community. And it's like, I guess District 62, that's my area. Like I'm from the south side. So like Kyle's Park, East Point and like parts of Zone 3 or something like that. So he was just telling me how many things going, going wrong in the community and like things that we got access to, we don't even know we got access to. He was saying like, it's a lot of young niggas catching they first felonies for vape pens, TAC vape pens. Like he said a lot of these, he said he worked for Rock. So I think Rock, they said, he said, they main thing is vape pens. They're getting felonies for this shit. You know what I'm saying? So that was one of the most powerful conversations, man. And other than that, man, I interviewed, so the one that dropped though, I interviewed my boy UFO Chevy Seated Dope Dealer. And we were just talking about all the health and health and wealth and you know, that type of conversation, you know what I'm saying? Money cool, but man, if you ain't healthy and you can't really live and enjoy that shit for real, for real, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, we like a lot of people, we will say RIP, but man, you got to do that shit before they die. You know what I mean? Like, you know, you see your auntie, every time you see her, she got some bacon or some shit on her hand. Be like, auntie, man, try, try to kill. You know what I mean? They go, they might tell you go to hell. You say somebody killed. But should I say, if you try, you know, you know, you did your part, you know, you can't, you know, whatever they do with their info is what they're going to do with their info. So I feel like that was the most important one. We just dropped that one a couple, about a week ago, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, them two right there for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[26:34] What's the biggest thing you think you want to accomplish with that platform that you ain't got to accomplish yet? Like your dream?
Speaker 4:
[26:39] Man, I just want to, I want to motivate, inspire as many people as I can, especially people that look like me. You know, I want people to be able to say, man, they watch my platform and found a mentor or a lane they can step in to where they can either, you know, continue on whatever path, because you know, a lot of us be on that path and then we get grown and bills and babies and shit hit and little, you know, man, we go from some of the babies hit is like, you know what I mean? Like we start growing or whatever. So, you know, that for one, then, you know, I want somebody to be like, man, I got rich off of this. You know what I'm saying? I was listening to this, you know, I seen that interview with that. It led me down the rabbit hole with that and look at me now type shit. You know what I'm saying? That one, you know what I mean? I want to, you know, inspire us to just be healthy and wealthy, man. You know, the best version of us, man, at the end of the day, as many people as I could do, you know, just like, you know, I'm just kind of really keeping the Martin Luther King dream going. I just ain't in politics. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you know, the white folks, like they got like Jim Rome, you know what I'm saying? And we, you know, in our community got BAM at the moment, you know what I mean? So, what you do in my bed? Because I feel like that's one, you know, the two biggest things that I feel like impact is your health and wealth, shit. Shit go left because of the money. You know, a lot of us making bad decisions because, you know, sometimes just be unhealthy decisions. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[27:54] Damn.
Speaker 3:
[27:54] What y'all think some of the podcast goats are in our culture?
Speaker 4:
[27:58] Podcast goats?
Speaker 3:
[27:59] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[27:59] Yeah, y'all are podcast goats, man, especially as far as a lot of them, man. But other than that, man, hmm. What's some more big time podcast? Let me see, man. In our culture, man. So, that's a good ass question, bruh. I ain't gonna even lie. What you think?
Speaker 5:
[28:23] See, you know, what's the name of the goat, ain't it?
Speaker 3:
[28:25] Who that?
Speaker 5:
[28:27] Joe Bun.
Speaker 3:
[28:27] You got to give it to Joe. You want to show?
Speaker 5:
[28:30] I'm saying, I thought, how you going to be one goat? It can't be one goat, right? No. Praise of all time is one goat.
Speaker 3:
[28:36] I thought when we was talking about Atlanta goats, you said it could be more than one goat.
Speaker 5:
[28:40] No hell like that.
Speaker 3:
[28:41] Yes, you did.
Speaker 5:
[28:41] I don't remember saying that.
Speaker 6:
[28:42] Pulling that, pull it up.
Speaker 5:
[28:44] Yeah, somebody pulling that shit up.
Speaker 3:
[28:47] You said Martin Luther King. I see what you said. I guess in different spaces like Joe Budden definitely, and I guess you said like hip hop culture, but then like, man, I mean, what Earn Your Leisure has done is crazy.
Speaker 4:
[29:00] I love what they doing too. That's a good one. Earn Your Leisure. That's a great one. And yeah, shit like that motivates me.
Speaker 5:
[29:05] It's a lot of great, good, but go. Who made the most money out of this shit?
Speaker 4:
[29:11] And we got-
Speaker 3:
[29:11] Joe Rogan.
Speaker 5:
[29:12] No, I'm talking about in our culture.
Speaker 4:
[29:14] In our culture, yeah.
Speaker 3:
[29:15] From what we can see, probably Budden. Joe Budden, Charlamagne, maybe.
Speaker 4:
[29:20] But that-
Speaker 5:
[29:21] Charlamagne ain't really no podcast.
Speaker 4:
[29:22] Yeah, is that considered? Yeah, that's the more like-
Speaker 3:
[29:24] He just a media all around, you know?
Speaker 4:
[29:25] But I love Charlamagne too. I be reading all his books. You know what I mean? Shout out Charlamagne, man.
Speaker 5:
[29:31] Yeah. You gonna write a book?
Speaker 4:
[29:33] I already wrote one. Got it over there, you know what I mean? My book, Navigate the Great GPA to the Road to Riches, is on Amazon, $9.99. It's a self-help book. I use a lot of hip-hop quotes to kind of influence the thoughts like, the world is yours, everything, getting it from Jesus, you know? I use that to kind of open up your mind as far as manifestation, how they got think and grow rich. I got a chapter, Think and Grow Lit, you know what I mean? Rich Dad, Po Dad, I got Rich Uncle, Po Uncle, you know what I mean, shit like that going on. So, hell yeah, man, I got a couple more. I want to write one and say, niggas ain't shit and bitches ain't either, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? That might be one of the.
Speaker 5:
[30:11] Break that down right quick.
Speaker 4:
[30:12] Oh, it's already written down, man.
Speaker 5:
[30:13] I'm saying break it down.
Speaker 4:
[30:15] Oh yeah, I mean, because at the end of the day, man, it just kind of goes back to show you, man, like kind of what we saying about the scam or what, all right, so I ain't, you know, I got to write it out in detail, but like, man, just understand it, man, everybody don't mean you well, you know what I mean? Whether it's a man or a woman, and just coming up with different simple scenarios to kind of paint that picture, you know what I mean? As far as women, you know, there's some great women out here that's doing some great things, but bitches ain't shit, you know what I mean? Some great men doing some great things, but niggas ain't shit. For real, for real, man, just, and if you don't think otherwise, man, they gonna get your ass every time, man, for real, for real.
Speaker 5:
[30:49] You don't sit in that file home waiting on the meat.
Speaker 4:
[30:51] Yeah, man, you know, you gonna get slimed. How many times one of your so-called partners gonna slime you before you realize, man, you gotta watch niggas, you know what I'm saying? You know how many niggas got another bitch with them, you know what I'm saying? They gotta understand that part of the game too, you feel what I'm saying? Shit show.
Speaker 5:
[31:08] Damn. So you think too many niggas is just too many niggas?
Speaker 4:
[31:13] Man, yeah, bro, I mean, like-
Speaker 5:
[31:16] But we gotta deal with some.
Speaker 4:
[31:18] Yeah, you gotta deal with some niggas, man, but you gotta deal with them from a bird's eye view. You gotta know what a nigga would do and what a can't do, you know what I'm saying? How you can't get yourself to the point to where you that vulnerable to these types of people, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I understand you're gonna come across a bitch-er-able moon. Some bitches might bring you a bag, but don't let some of these people too close to your home to where they know all your business and all your spots and how you moving type of shit like that, you know what I mean? Real for real, cause I mean, it's some great people out there, man, but the niggas and bitches, they market themselves so well, you know what I'm saying? Like sometimes that might be all you see. How you gotta understand what a tendency look like, you know what I mean? Like whether it's the greed or if he did it to him or did it to her or did it to him, shit, your ass might be next. It just ain't your time yet, you know what I mean? And you just gotta kinda, you gotta just kinda watch people, man, and understand, man, everybody don't mean you well for the most part.
Speaker 5:
[32:13] So if you hear somebody say somebody did them wrong, do you take that for face value and just be like, I ain't fuck with that person or you got judge on y'all?
Speaker 4:
[32:20] No, I mean, I hear you, but at the same time, man, everybody's situation is people that slimes me, it did great for the next person. You know what I mean? And I ain't the type of person to say my point of view. You know what I mean? I just try to get with that person. But yeah, if you heard it from third party, you can't ever believe that either. You know what I'm saying? That's another part of the game. But but as far as what you can see or I feel like just don't put yourself vulnerable to where shit can happen to you, because with shit like that happened to me, it's kind of like, OK, I trust the. You know what I mean? Like I know when I looked at him, his eyes went like that, went like that, squint like that. I should have caught that. You know what I'm saying? Like for real, for real. Like I know that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5:
[32:59] I felt it.
Speaker 4:
[33:00] Yeah, I felt it. You know what I'm saying? I should have went with my gut instinct, man. You know what I'm saying? You know where you know that shit was my fault. I can't even put that on this person and say, don't with this person. Don't with that person, because this might have helped you get in the apartment. He probably scared me out of my deposit. You know what I'm saying? That's my fault for trusting that with my deposit. I ain't know where this mama stay at. So why the fuck I trust that? You know what I'm saying? I ain't know where he be doing shit. Shit like that.
Speaker 3:
[33:25] So far in this journey, to get to where you are today, what's the biggest sacrifice BAM done had to make to push forward?
Speaker 4:
[33:31] Time and money, you know what I mean? All this shit caused money, man. Time and money, when I say time, shit, it might be a time I gotta play. I got my phone on silent for the next three hours, though. I done missed a play trying to do something great. I'm trying to navigate the great because I'm tired of being good. I was good for a minute, but sometimes you gotta put the good on power so you can be great. More so time and money and then just also, man, there used to be a lot of people I can hang with, man, but I can't even do it no more because they just be poisoned in my thoughts. I'm hanging with this person so long.
Speaker 3:
[34:06] They're on a different frequency.
Speaker 4:
[34:07] Yeah. It seemed like I'm quicker to adapt to their ways versus them adapting to my ways. I might talk to a and my IQ might drop two, three points talking to this, and he got them, but him being around me or her being around me, I ain't necessarily really raising them. They're going to still be who they is. So it'd be a lot of fun. I got to miss out on sometimes, man. Like, I didn't even did stuff. I don't even got no, I ain't even stronger than those vices no more. I ain't been drinking or smoking. Like I might smoke a little bit at night, but shit, I ain't going to even get behind the wheel. I don't even trust that, you know what I mean? I've been slowing down on a lot of shit. So, you know, it's a lot of things I used to do for fun, man. I can't even really do for fun no more. I say, let me get up a couple more digits and maybe I can do that again. So time, money, people and vices, to be honest with you.
Speaker 5:
[34:56] Hey, you talking about gut feeling early. How many times you went against your gut feeling and went wrong?
Speaker 4:
[35:03] Shit.
Speaker 5:
[35:04] Instantly, like damn, I knew it.
Speaker 4:
[35:06] Man, at least about three times in the last 13 months. You know what I'm saying? Like my whole life I can't really, you know what I mean? You said who?
Speaker 5:
[35:17] You said too many to count.
Speaker 4:
[35:18] Yeah, too many to count, man. I'm just glad that most of the time it wasn't really nothing that can, well, it's never been nothing that can break me or make me or whatever, but just in, shit, I'm learning new shit every day. You know what I'm saying? For real, for real. Yeah, yeah. I gotta make sure I keep them probiotics in me, man. So my stomach, my gut health can be on point. You know what I mean?
Speaker 5:
[35:39] It's your brain.
Speaker 4:
[35:40] Yeah, man, for real.
Speaker 3:
[35:42] Man, how I feel, man, we gon keep it real. We just went out there, social media like, man, who y'all wanna see on Big Face, right? I'm gon keep it real. Like, bank know this, like above any rapper, athlete, actress, any day, you came back number one. How you feel to have that type of like cult following and fan base and people that's pushing you?
Speaker 4:
[35:59] I ain't gon lie. I really love that because, you know, I don't really hear no applause or do it for the applause. I don't have no, I don't see no cheerleaders, you know what I'm saying? So sometimes when you be, and I feel like I always been a smart pulling rappers out the hat, jumping jacks, backflips on one foot and shit. And I ain't ever really got no acknowledgement for it. You know what I mean? Even in school, I was a smart, but I wasn't ever like acknowledged for it. So, so shit, man, it really feels good to see that people watching, even though they might not click or tell you that they see this or see that, tell you that they like it, that shit really feels very good. You know what I mean? Because it's been a thousand days in a row, I do some and no applause and no this, no that, and people will show you they watching it. But I'm like, well, nigga, why you ain't click that button? You know what I mean? Why you ain't show the world that you like this? Why you ain't share this? You know what I'm saying? So, I don't necessarily say that I let anything stop me, but it really do let you know like, shit, niggas watching, bro, and is appreciated.
Speaker 3:
[37:01] And just to tell you, you know you gotta, I learned this, I think we all learned this, like you gotta tell them, cause people walk up to us all the time like, bro, where you watching that shit? Let everybody know, like, okay, you gotta tell them folks, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:
[37:11] Catch that on YouTube, man, Multiple Streams Podcast, Multiple Streams, by any means.
Speaker 3:
[37:16] Share it, like it.
Speaker 4:
[37:17] By any means, that's BAM right there, you know what I'm saying? You know, so yeah, man, share it, like it. I'ma get back to where we throwing it on Spotify, Apple Music, but I'm working on getting a VA to help me with all that technical shit, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5:
[37:31] So you're just doing a video only now?
Speaker 4:
[37:33] Yeah, currently. I was doing, shout out my boy Jason, man. When my boy Jason was with me, when he was helping me out, he was helping me distribute on multiple platforms or whatever, but time permit, he had some other things going on in his life or whatever, so he's not really actively able to help me out as he was back in the day, but I'm in the process right now hiring me one of them people from the Philippines to do all that shit for me.
Speaker 5:
[38:00] You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:
[38:02] Yeah, yeah, I mean, cause that's how some people consume it. You know what I mean? You got to have what they want to get, you got to get to them, you know what I'm saying? For real, for real.
Speaker 3:
[38:10] What's your dream sit down? You sit down with anybody?
Speaker 4:
[38:13] If I could sit down with anybody, if I could sit down with anybody, shit, you got to be one person, huh? I love to sit down with, you know, my favorite, just my favorite people, like a Tip, Rick Ross, you know what I mean? A Big Bank, that'd be an ultimate sit down, man. But shit.
Speaker 3:
[38:35] Bain, you bank. I'm just talking shit.
Speaker 4:
[38:38] Oh yeah, I mean, you know, step by step, man, you know, I love to pick a like Barack Obama brand, you know what I mean? A man, I ain't gonna call him no, cause I don't know how he might get offended by that. But yeah, just people I look at too as a ghost, you know what I'm saying? A lot of my ghosts was in hip hop, you know what I mean? I wasn't really no athlete person, so, you know, people like that, people in my own city, you know what I'm saying? It will be my dream conversations with you, you know what I mean? I love to sit down with my boy Scream, you know what I'm saying? You made some of my favorite mixtapes back in the day, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, especially short of low tape, man. I would just listen to that the other day. Show for show.
Speaker 5:
[39:14] Lonely and low.
Speaker 4:
[39:15] Lonely, I just interviewed Junior, man, his son, man. He doing the down for low week, man, so.
Speaker 5:
[39:21] When is it?
Speaker 4:
[39:22] Man, I forgot.
Speaker 3:
[39:24] During his birthday.
Speaker 4:
[39:25] Yeah, I forgot. I gotta look at my notes. But that was the whole purpose of it, to promote that for the most part.
Speaker 3:
[39:32] What you think of the impact that World Cup gonna have on the city?
Speaker 4:
[39:36] It's gonna bring some money to the city, man. If you got some Airbnb's, they gonna be Airbnb-ing, man. If you got food trucks, it's gonna basically stimulate the economy in different ways. And I'm pretty sure it's gonna also motivate us to make sure we prepare for the next wave. You know what I mean? So I just feel like it's gonna do that. Just keep that Atlanta spotlight on, man. Just like, just the shit we keep doing, man. Like coming up, man, we had the 96 Olympics. It's just kind of like a, just a repeat of stuff like that, man. Just keep the economy going, keep Atlanta with the greatest city, keep Atlanta as the greatest city alive again. And it's gonna bring some money and some opportunities, for sure. For sure, for sure.
Speaker 5:
[40:18] What kind of music you listen to?
Speaker 4:
[40:20] Trap music, for the most part. Yeah, that's what I listen to. You know what I mean? Right now, my favorite dude I be listening to right now, Bossman D-Lo, but you know, I type nigga listen to Dolph all day, GZ all day, Tip all day, and Gucci Mane all day. You know what I mean? Shit like that.
Speaker 5:
[40:37] You don't listen to any new shit?
Speaker 4:
[40:39] No, I don't. Bossman D-Lo. You know what I'm saying? I don't lie.
Speaker 3:
[40:43] So when you say trap shit, I gotta salute Bellygame and go crazy.
Speaker 4:
[40:46] Yeah, I with him, but I just, I haven't got around. I don't listen to him as much as I should. You know what I mean? But, cause I just been in love with his whole branding and you know, just how he rep everything. You know what I mean? His humbleness. Like, I guess what I'm saying is, I've been more of a fan of his character and his music. Like I listen to his music, but his character is really what got me. You feel what I'm saying? But yeah, shout out Bellygame Kush, man. Yeah, yeah, before he was who he was, man, through a third party, you know, I did some business with Bellygame before, you know what I mean? And he's a solid person.
Speaker 6:
[41:28] You can't listen to all that. I just got it, got it, got it.
Speaker 4:
[41:32] I can't even, I mean, I can't, you know what I mean? I don't know who that is.
Speaker 6:
[41:37] I don't know how that shit do, how that shit, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4:
[41:41] Nah, hell nah, I mean, shit. I don't even be having that much time, man, between the motivational stuff I listen to, the podcast. You know, I got time for people I can comprehend. If I gots to think hard and figure it out, bro, it's a little, they're like rocket science to a right now, man. For real, for real, man.
Speaker 6:
[41:57] You be listening to this shit, Scream?
Speaker 3:
[41:58] Nah, come on, man, you know, come on.
Speaker 5:
[42:00] That's why I really couldn't listen to New York at first. Yeah, because I couldn't understand this shit.
Speaker 3:
[42:05] You just got to be rapping about something that got a goal like, that's why I like hustle on money music. You know what I'm saying? Like you got to have a goal. If your goal is just wake up and just get on bullshit all day and there's no goal, I can't do that because that shit can start to play on my mental too. Yeah, natural gray music. That's the genre.
Speaker 5:
[42:26] If you fit what's going on.
Speaker 4:
[42:28] Nah, for real. If it's the motivation, that would get me. I don't give a damn if it's a podcast play. I'm relating to that, but you know, I might get the popping pills I listen to some of these young.
Speaker 3:
[42:38] I'm telling that music.
Speaker 2:
[42:39] Gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 4:
[42:41] I might end up sliming my dog listening to that shit too, man.
Speaker 3:
[42:45] God bless the YNs. That's their own path. We had some bullshit music too come up. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:
[42:51] Shout out to the dude y'all interviewed, the Tony dude. You know what I mean? That was different. He talking about gospel rap and his morning routine. I'm fucking with that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5:
[43:00] Yeah, he the one. Shout out to the Tony.
Speaker 4:
[43:02] Yeah, I'm with him, man. Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[43:04] Young dude with his mind on.
Speaker 4:
[43:06] Yeah, man. Hell, yeah.
Speaker 3:
[43:08] Yeah, man. That can happen.
Speaker 4:
[43:09] And that's what the YNs need because they can relate to that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[43:13] What's the thing that makes you most proud about our city right now? What's the thing that you kind of just be like, damn, man, I ain't really too proud about that going on in our city? Currently.
Speaker 4:
[43:24] Currently, man. I just love the black excellence factor. I be feeling like, man, you could be somebody here. Everybody think they're somebody, but you can actually be somebody here and you can actually own some shit. You know what I'm saying? The property and real estate price just good enough in Georgia where we can own some shit. It's a lot of examples of successful people to where I can be someone when I grow up. You know what I mean? So that's what kept me going because like I said, I'm not really happy too much with that coming up. So if I can always point and say, well shit, he was here and he was in the same neighborhood and made it so well. You know what I mean? That shit motivate me as far as what I don't like. Sometimes it, like right now, it's a lot of conversation going on. Like they were saying about scamming aspiring artists. I think that's bullshit. My partner, his actually, this named Tony too, you know what I mean? But he put an H in front of the T, but we, you know, I ain't going to say we been scammed, but you know, you do spin your wheels and spend your money a lot throughout here. And just like, you know, we got to start moving the goalpost, you know what I'm saying? We got to just accept shit for what it is and keep it real. You know what I mean? You know, sometimes you got to admit when we wrong and just say shit, I was wrong. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3:
[44:44] I want to jump out there with any situation if you get scammed or got. That's part of the game too. Sometimes you need that to tighten your shit up. And anytime it's your money, can't nobody like getting robbed is one thing. That's forceful. But if you get scammed, whether it's an artist credit or whatever the case is, you sent that money, you decided to do that. So you got to take accountability for that.
Speaker 5:
[45:06] Because if you want to work, you want to call it in on scam.
Speaker 3:
[45:08] Exactly. So you took that risk.
Speaker 4:
[45:10] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[45:11] You gamble.
Speaker 4:
[45:12] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[45:13] And when you gamble, you could lose.
Speaker 4:
[45:15] So I wasn't really talking about dude, because I actually sat with dude.
Speaker 5:
[45:18] Who?
Speaker 4:
[45:20] I mean, I don't know if y'all are saying-
Speaker 3:
[45:22] We're not saying nobody in particular.
Speaker 4:
[45:24] I put it this way though. I sat down with him before and I ain't feel cheated. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5:
[45:29] Oh, you paid BAM, I meant Boom some?
Speaker 4:
[45:31] Yeah. At least about 200 for my bro over there. You know what I mean?
Speaker 5:
[45:34] You do what? Like some music shit?
Speaker 4:
[45:36] I can't recall, bro. It was probably like a connect- What happened, bro? It was probably some connecting the dots type of thing, man. But the looked at me and said, you don't need me if he got you. You know what I mean? He told her, go on about it. But I ain't really feel no type of way because we still had a little studio time. Like, you know, it kind of was some type of trade off. So I ain't-
Speaker 5:
[45:56] Oh, he told you you don't need him if he got you?
Speaker 4:
[45:59] Yeah, that's what he basically said. You know what I mean? If I was to think differently, I would have been-
Speaker 5:
[46:03] Did he count the money?
Speaker 4:
[46:04] You said what? No, it wasn't up to a couple of hundred.
Speaker 5:
[46:07] I'm saying that was his advice for the money?
Speaker 4:
[46:10] No, his whole thing was if you need my time, it was a compensation.
Speaker 3:
[46:14] Yeah, you had to pay for my time.
Speaker 4:
[46:15] Yeah, it was more of his time.
Speaker 5:
[46:16] But I'm saying, once I paid for your time, that was the advice he gave you for the money, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:
[46:22] Yeah, for the most part, you know what I'm saying? But the way it was, I ain't feel cheated because we still had some studio time. Like, he threw something on top of that. You know what I mean? We still had like some studio time, and we still was able to network with whoever was in the building at the time. I didn't, whatever happened. Whatever happened, I didn't feel bad. I didn't feel worse paying to perform type shit. You know what I'm saying? I didn't feel worse doing shit like that.
Speaker 3:
[46:46] When you pay to perform, y'all pay to perform.
Speaker 4:
[46:49] Well, it depends on, so what made it not worth it was, don't have me in the back when everybody gone and performing in front of four people now. You know what I mean? Don't do it, You said what? Don't have a wait till 3 a.m. Till about over with. Yeah, till it's over with and goddamn, you done had us on stage before.
Speaker 5:
[47:09] That's the price for that, too, is the price to go on primetime.
Speaker 4:
[47:12] Yeah, you gotta be in the business.
Speaker 3:
[47:15] What time do I perform if I can do this much?
Speaker 4:
[47:17] Well, they had that shit advertised it then, you know what I mean? You said you got one price, goddamn. to show favoritism, you know what I'm saying? Damn, it's what it is, goddamn it. You know what I'm saying? Or if my mindset was different, I would have not been doing it, I would have did it only for the look, like to make it look like we was getting booked, you know what I'm saying? So it's all about mindset. Like if I was like back, if I was a reverse engineer, I would have just been looking for an investor, because I'm like, what bruh? Or don't know that I'm willing to take a back seat. Say for instance, somebody like, okay, cool, you got a new manager now, I'll just be your assistant. I'll go get the socks for you and make, I'll be your door dad. This is probably before door dad. I'll go get the food for you. You know what I mean? If my mindset was a little different, I would have just went about it a little differently because I know I ain't been working at Patch Worker. I ain't goddamn been turning up on the DJ Scream for three, four years. You know what I mean? You know, yeah, shit like that going on. You know what I mean? Then I ain't gonna lie, we had a situation where we found some resources, but it wasn't like, we was on, it was like, it still felt like it was a lot on us. Like, yo, you gotta build this relationship. We gotta build that relationship, which makes sense, but it's all about mindset. Like if I was to go about shit in a different way, I would have went about it in a different way and probably would have got better results, to be honest with you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 5:
[48:34] Damn, so really out here in Atlanta making a living off of just like, shit, I can help you basically.
Speaker 4:
[48:41] Yeah, and you know, and it's just like, you saying it's not always a transparency between what I can actually do for you and what I can't do for you. You know what I mean? You thinking that certain people could take you to the top. It's just like, I'm not thinking it's gonna be a one, two, three thing, I'm thinking that you're gonna at least put me in a position where I'm close enough to shake a hand. You know, not necessarily that's gonna do something for me, but we can work together, collab, you know what I mean? Sometimes it be situations where, you know, it's like, yeah, we in a room, but you ain't even introducing me to the nigga. He's still looking at me like a, he don't know me from Canada, god damn. Like in-
Speaker 5:
[49:16] But you gotta introduce yourself.
Speaker 4:
[49:18] Yeah, but it don't hit as hard.
Speaker 5:
[49:20] Once I'm in the room, I overstep, I paid my money. Hey, hey, I'm BAM.
Speaker 4:
[49:24] No, no, no. A nigga introduce myself, but at the same time, a don't give a fuck if he don't, like sometimes that simple blessing. You feel what I'm saying? It's like if I just met you-
Speaker 5:
[49:33] It's a cosign.
Speaker 4:
[49:34] Yeah, it's just like if I just bumped into you and I met you, you gonna be like, okay, who the fuck is this little? You know what I'm saying? But if you like shit, then my boy BAM, which cost you nothing, free 99, we in the same room. It's just like, we in the room, go over there and talk to them.
Speaker 5:
[49:48] Like damn, Is it foul for him to say really, you ain't his boy either? You just paid me to come in.
Speaker 4:
[49:53] Well, you telling me you're your boy.
Speaker 5:
[49:54] No, listen to what I'm saying. That's just like right now. I done scammed you to talk to me. You know what I'm saying? And you come in. I really don't know you, so I can't introduce you to Scream. I just know you through paying you. I'm gonna introduce you to Scream. Scream know what I do. Scream already know what I do. I get money and tell him the rules. He already looking at you finding anyway.
Speaker 4:
[50:18] No, listen, all right, let me tell you how it was. We signed, all right, let's put it this way. We went to a showcase, you know what I mean? At the Palace, you know what I mean? Jade was probably there at the motherfucking door. And motherfucking, he like my boy. He say, man, I'm gonna sign you to a management deal. So we're signed, you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:
[50:37] Who's he, I'm sorry? Who's he?
Speaker 4:
[50:39] He's he, I don't wanna tell you the name out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:
[50:41] You don't wanna say this out loud?
Speaker 5:
[50:42] Oh yeah, something else. This something different.
Speaker 3:
[50:44] Something different, then?
Speaker 4:
[50:45] Yeah, this something different. That was a one time thing with bruh.
Speaker 3:
[50:47] I was saying that for clarity for them.
Speaker 4:
[50:48] Yeah, that was a one time thing with bruh, you know what I'm saying? And I ain't really tripping, because I be knowing what time shit is, but my thing is, say you sign me to a management deal, and you still moving like that. I thought I was your boy. We signed paperwork.
Speaker 5:
[51:01] Oh yeah, you my boy, now we locked in.
Speaker 4:
[51:02] Yeah, we locked in. We done ate lunch, you know what I'm saying? I'm bringing weed to the studio so all can smoke and get hungry, I'm goddamn ordering pizza and shit like that, you know?
Speaker 5:
[51:12] Oh, we locked in? Yeah, we locked in. No, that's different. I was talking about like in-
Speaker 4:
[51:17] Yeah, something like that. Like I said, I wasn't even tripping on that, cause you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5:
[51:22] That went smooth.
Speaker 4:
[51:23] I mean, what, 200 went shit to a, we still got-
Speaker 5:
[51:27] Who the management you talking about that was at the pedal?
Speaker 4:
[51:31] Man, that name was Action Jackson, bruh.
Speaker 5:
[51:33] Who the fuck is it?
Speaker 4:
[51:34] That was working for Defiant.
Speaker 5:
[51:36] For Defiant?
Speaker 4:
[51:37] Yeah, on the east side with KD.
Speaker 3:
[51:39] Oh, KD. KD Madalia.
Speaker 4:
[51:41] But KD Madalia. KD had nothing to do with that, but we was in the room with him when they had the studio in Defiant.
Speaker 3:
[51:46] Okay.
Speaker 4:
[51:46] Over in Scotthel, right by Pinnacle.
Speaker 3:
[51:48] Yeah, we should be out there.
Speaker 5:
[51:50] But Action Jackson was in on the management with you.
Speaker 4:
[51:52] He didn't want to say come through. I want y'all to come through tomorrow. Let's sign this goddamn paperwork.
Speaker 5:
[51:56] And then we all got there well?
Speaker 4:
[51:59] It just went, we still got to do the same shit we could have been doing on our own, we doing with paperwork. But at the same time, ain't no extra voucher. You dig what I'm saying? But niggas there don't know what's going on. They fucking with us, but it's still like, ain't no action being done by this named Jackson. You dig what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? They're like, damn, bro, you could have put us here, you could have put us there. It's a lot of simple things. It's like, it's a lot of simple things a could have did. Simple shit, bro. Freak, it cost nothing, bro. You know what I mean? But we thinking like-
Speaker 5:
[52:29] And it gonna make you some money.
Speaker 4:
[52:30] We not asking for no, yeah, we not even, yeah. And we not asking for no god damn money. We just like, okay, management is management. I get it. It's still everything coming out of my pocket still. Okay, you know what I mean? You know, let's just figure this out. Or even sit down with it. Like we coming up with our own, we learning about BMI and shit like that on our own and shit like that. Like nothing changed, bro. You know what I mean? It's like, then the shit, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5:
[52:54] No, I get what you saying. You saying basically, bro, you saying you can do, you ain't did nothing with the management.
Speaker 4:
[52:59] You haven't did a fucking thing. You just signed this shit for no reason, for no goddamn reason.
Speaker 3:
[53:04] So there is a friend.
Speaker 5:
[53:08] So what made you feel as if though he can do what he was saying he could do?
Speaker 4:
[53:12] Them niggas got damn time out, this tip label and shit. You know, got other names, got big ass names involved. You know, we coming from fucking old national, the palace.
Speaker 5:
[53:21] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[53:22] We thinking this shit to go, I mean, we thinking it's some, you know what I mean? Okay, cool. I understand the difference between management and investing. I understand simple things, but we still agreeing to this music shit.
Speaker 5:
[53:32] But it still had to be something he showed you to make you feel.
Speaker 4:
[53:34] That ain't show nothing but his motherfucking ass. The bottom of his goddamn shoe, That's what the he showed the. He showed us where the studio was. You know what I mean? I'm helping them out more than anybody's helping me out. Ordering pizza, I'm buying weed. ain't got rides, bro. I'm giving rides where wasn't driving sometimes.
Speaker 3:
[53:54] Was it easy to get out of it, like just tear this shit up?
Speaker 4:
[53:57] I mean, we ain't doing shit. The shit expired. The shit expired, like what? You know what I'm saying? I mean, what the? If anything, that's the only that was helping out, KD. And he didn't even know, didn't nobody read this shit. KD's the only to help. He's putting us with producers and shit, but he really ain't got time to help because he got his own shit going on. He's fucking with my boy, Runway. He's fucking with a couple of producers in the building. And that's how I met you. He used to do like, I met you a minute ago at a fucking Runway Richie mixtape release party. You know what I mean? He was doing a China cafeteria shit. And that's just us being around smoking weed with. You smoke with a long enough that it's like, come out with a song. You feel me? But I wasn't none of his responsibility. And I still text him today. I was supposed to interview him, you know what I'm saying? And shit like that going on. You know, that's the only I can look at and say, okay, this tried to do something to help out. You know what I mean? Because like I say, you know, I don't mind playing my role. You know, he might need some shit. He might need something to eat, but he in the studio with style or something. So I might be like, shit man, you know, just throw me this and I go, whatever. You know what I mean? I bring this back, save you some time. You can't do, you can't kill three birds with one rock.
Speaker 3:
[55:12] So you say you went in to be a team player and just make the team however it go. We trying to win. We trying to, you know what I'm saying, do that. But you weren't feeling the same energy on that side.
Speaker 4:
[55:21] I mean, bro, helping get a feature or something, you know what I mean? That's like I was saying, like we around a and this would have been a great song or we could have been a great collab. You don't even interest, you know what I'm saying, bro? Like, I could do shit by my own.
Speaker 3:
[55:35] You think he, I'm just curious, not to not know about it, but do you think it was that he was on some bullshit or he just really don't have the juice to make that shit?
Speaker 4:
[55:44] Bro, he probably was on some bullshit. Cause like I say, man, like, you know, I might see the recently in the mall, the energy be a little off. You know what I mean? The, his eyes don't connect like that. And I be cool, bro. I'm not mad about it because I'm straight. You know what I mean? My boy's straight. He got his clothing line, Lennox up. You know what I'm saying? And we straight, bro. We probably got more money than this. I don't know. I'm not gonna pocket watch. I'm doing great for myself. So I don't really give a fuck about nothing like that. You know what I mean? But if we're having a conversation, we're having a conversation.
Speaker 5:
[56:14] What you think is the difference in the rap game and the podcast game?
Speaker 4:
[56:17] I think the rap game ain't easy no more, man. The podcast is more feasible. It's still difficult to get people to listen to you out of all the niggas. But I feel like it's easy because that's what I use it as for, a learning thing, because it's like, okay, cool. You know, it's a lot of people I've known from back then, they see me now and it's more respect now because I wasn't really having it back then, especially then because I was kind of on some probation some shit and trying to figure it out, you know what I mean? In between hustles and shit like that. So I was doing decent, but not really, you know what I mean? So like, I just feel like the podcast game is, it's more feasible than rap, you know what I mean? I feel like it's easier for you to see some success with podcasting versus with hip hop, you know what I mean? I feel like most hip hop people, if you rapping, you might also want to throw content creator on the side, as one of your things too because it's kind of hard to break through that attention span, man. People got so many things to see and so many things to listen to, to where like, you know, and I feel like we're rapping, everybody in that cousin rap. don't really feel like, I don't think people have enough, I don't think a lot of people have enough confidence to do this.
Speaker 5:
[57:30] Do creating content as a rapper take away from you being a rapper though?
Speaker 4:
[57:34] It might, but at the same time, man, you got to make some shape. It might though. Yeah, it might, because the people I listen to, they straight rapping. They barely doing content, but I feel like shit. I mean, I ain't never succeeded in the music industry, so I can't really tell you what it take, but I do know, all right, what I mean by that too is like, all right, so like, like Lil Donald, when we was going through the ranks, that's who the independent big dog was. You know what I'm saying? So like, you know, he's very creative with how he do content or how he promote himself and shit like that.
Speaker 5:
[58:12] Yeah, I think Donald just be in himself, though.
Speaker 4:
[58:15] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[58:15] In music and everything, so it all line up. Like I'm saying, like, you trying to do like a skit, but you a rapper.
Speaker 4:
[58:21] But like, he was doing that, though, like the IJ got the juice, that shit started off like a skit, then it turned to a music video.
Speaker 6:
[58:27] Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:
[58:28] Yeah, so I feel like he kind of one of them, I'm saying, like he kind of combine both of them. My boy over there, he be like, some of this shit be, some people be feeling like it, I can't see myself doing this or being that consistent, but I feel like for one, content creators are very consistent. You know, when you a rapper, they might tell you to push the same song for seven years. They like, it's gon pop. Keep him on your single, you know what I mean? Come to our showcase. You can go first. Them, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5:
[58:55] They just milking your ass for the seven years.
Speaker 4:
[58:58] They like, man, we love that song. You know what I mean? Keep doing that song. You know what I mean?
Speaker 5:
[59:03] Sing it.
Speaker 4:
[59:04] Sing it, you know what I mean? But, you know, I feel like, but yeah, I feel like that's a good example, though. Like he, I feel like he was able to combine his personality with his music. And that's why people was with him, you know what I mean? Outside of just his natural work ethic, which the had a lot of work, has a lot of work ethic. And he probably good with money because a lot of folks be broke these days, man. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people are not really the best financially literate. You know what I mean? Like, probably just can't have us talk. Some still blaming slavery on them, God damn, though. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:
[59:34] You said baby, slavery.
Speaker 5:
[59:35] Before we get out of here, man, get these people some game, little man.
Speaker 4:
[59:38] Man, surround yourself around the right people, man. The five people you talk to the most, you ain't going to be too much above or below them. You know what I'm saying? Get yourself some education, man. We got to change the narrative, man. You want to God damn learn something. You know, you want to keep it away from black. You want to keep it with black people. Put it in the book, man. Get my book, you'll get great GPS of all the riches on Amazon. And just always try to be the best version of yourself, man. Like, yeah, you got one shoulder, you got a saying, do right. You got another one doing wrong. You know, you might slip over that sometime, but you know, don't do that. You know what I mean? Like, make sure you always try to, you know, make your grandma proud. Yeah, I put it that way. You know what I mean? And health is wealth, man. Get your fat ass in the gym. Yeah, real shit.
Speaker 3:
[60:22] Let them know where to tap in with you, bro. One more time.
Speaker 4:
[60:26] Social media, YouTube, Multiple Streams Podcast. That's it. BAM Concepts. That's my main thing. B-A-M-C-O-N-C-E-P-T-S. Multiple Streams Podcast. You can catch me on YouTube, Instagram, man. But yeah, that's pretty much it, man. It's what I'm on, man.
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Speaker 5:
[60:51] Salute!
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