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Speaker 1:
[00:00] All right, we are back for part two of our episode with Dad. Thank you for staying.

Speaker 2:
[00:07] Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1:
[00:08] Now, this is gonna be more fun, no politics, so if you're triggered by politics, you don't have to hear it here today. We're giving you a break.

Speaker 2:
[00:17] Maybe.

Speaker 1:
[00:18] Maybe. But I wanted to talk about just like some hot topics, some things that are going on, and have you heard of someone by the name of Bonnie Blue?

Speaker 2:
[00:29] No.

Speaker 1:
[00:29] No. Okay, so, Bonnie Blue, I wanna make sure that I actually, you know, her monthly income is reported to be about $900,000 a month, if not more.

Speaker 2:
[00:43] And she's selling coochie.

Speaker 1:
[00:44] That is, in fact, what she does. She actually did this whole thing to where she slept with 1,000 men in 24 hours, I think it was.

Speaker 2:
[00:59] Then she's wore out.

Speaker 1:
[01:00] Guys, did I get that number right? I think it was 1,000. Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[01:05] Then that pussy's wore out. That ain't no count. There ain't nothing left about it.

Speaker 1:
[01:09] 1,000 men in a day. And then, and people pay for like subscriptions.

Speaker 2:
[01:14] Can you imagine being the 1,000th guy?

Speaker 1:
[01:18] I mean, the fact that that's just crazy to me, that someone would do that. First off, it's disgusting. Like to, and to make money off of this and to have pride in doing it.

Speaker 2:
[01:29] Well, now listen, I can understand. Well, like when I was younger, I'm not going to talk about people like that because when I was younger, I was a hoe. But like, I, my numbers ain't no thousand.

Speaker 1:
[01:42] No, it's, it's crazy. But also, who do you think is responsible for this? The content creator or the audience that's paying to watch this?

Speaker 2:
[01:53] Well, why are we saying someone's responsible for it? I mean, it's her body.

Speaker 1:
[01:56] But just like behavior, like, yes, it's her body, my body, my choice. I get all that.

Speaker 2:
[02:01] Right.

Speaker 1:
[02:01] But for normalizing behavior like this, because at the end of the day, I don't-

Speaker 2:
[02:05] It's the consumer that's normalizing.

Speaker 1:
[02:07] Yes. I don't want my children growing up thinking this is acceptable behavior.

Speaker 2:
[02:12] Don't worry. They got a granddaddy.

Speaker 1:
[02:13] Yeah. So I definitely think, yes, she, she's putting the content out there, but what's even more alarming is the amount of people who want to consume content.

Speaker 2:
[02:24] But Savannah, you know that we have got a screwed up world that we're living in. Our country is very, the world is very voyeuristic. They want to see the train wreck. They literally want to jump on the side of the tracks just to see the collision.

Speaker 1:
[02:39] That is very accurate. And so now she slept with these thousand men in 24 hours.

Speaker 2:
[02:46] Well, she's nasty, but anyone after the second one, the third man on down is nastier than she is.

Speaker 1:
[02:54] So and then she came out and said that she was pregnant.

Speaker 2:
[02:59] Well, they're going to name the baby Target because a thousand of them had a shot at it.

Speaker 1:
[03:04] I'm dying. Yeah. So came out that she's pregnant and did a whole thing about it. Can you imagine the DNA bill is what that DNA bill was even talking about how they're trying to figure out who the father is. And then she came out and said that she was just gaslighting everyone and she wasn't really pregnant. She was wearing a fake bump and calling parents. She was literally like calling parents stupid for you.

Speaker 2:
[03:35] Just got gang banged by a thousand men. Don't call somebody stupid.

Speaker 1:
[03:38] She said parents were naive or gullible for taking it seriously and said, if you believed that, that's on you. If you believe that she was pregnant.

Speaker 2:
[03:52] Why are we talking about this bitch? Because at the end of the day, she's trashy. She's a hoe. She's got no respect for herself. And she has no relationship with her daddy because her daddy would have slapped a living dog shit out of her.

Speaker 1:
[04:04] Then there is that. So I think too, but then she also upset a lot of people for faking a pregnancy.

Speaker 2:
[04:11] But that's what they got upset over.

Speaker 1:
[04:16] I mean, granted, you were correct on that. But she was upset. Like people got upset because it is again, it is so hard for women to get pregnant in today's day and age. So faking a pregnancy. And then she flipped it and blamed the audience because they believed it.

Speaker 2:
[04:34] But that's because she's a narcissistic, nasty, treacherous trifling, no self-respect, sea dump.

Speaker 1:
[04:45] Oh my goodness. Well, this took a turn. We didn't get involved in politics today, but we are X-rated.

Speaker 2:
[04:52] Well, call it whatever you want to. She's trashy.

Speaker 1:
[04:54] Yeah, that was-

Speaker 2:
[04:56] And this is on video?

Speaker 1:
[04:58] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[04:58] So it's out there. Memorialize for life.

Speaker 1:
[05:00] She's gorgeous too.

Speaker 2:
[05:02] But you can be beautiful and have no self-esteem.

Speaker 1:
[05:05] No, I know. But it was crazy that all of this has happened. I mean, yeah. Do you think that we're in a world now to where we're oversharing?

Speaker 2:
[05:19] You ain't even got to ask me that because I've been telling y'all that for 10 years. Less is more.

Speaker 1:
[05:26] But what do you-

Speaker 2:
[05:26] People don't know you're a hoe unless you confirm it. I've kept my hodem hidden.

Speaker 1:
[05:33] But do you think people going out here talking about their relationships or talking about their therapy or whatever it may be?

Speaker 2:
[05:42] Yes, I think it's too much. Yes, I do. Because I feel like that A, if you're having trouble in your relationship and you're going to counseling, and you're speaking to a therapist, why are you talking to all your girlfriends at that lunch table about what your therapist just said? Because you're paying for this advice over here. Because you're hoping they're going to tell you something. You can dilute down the message that you didn't want to take. Yeah. So you got to decide whether or not you want to be fixed. And if you want to fix the problem, go to the professional. If you want to give somebody to co-sign your bullshit, because you've had a lot of people to co-sign your bullshit. If you want to have your bullshit co-signed, then go have lunch at Restoration Hardware and sit there with your girlfriends and y'all kiki it up and do whatever you're going to do.

Speaker 1:
[06:29] Kiki it up. I'm dying.

Speaker 2:
[06:32] Kiki it up. That's just what it is.

Speaker 1:
[06:37] So you're hopping on to new slang, apparently.

Speaker 2:
[06:43] Well, my friend taught me that last week. And she's from Atlanta. You know who I'm talking about. You know, Candy.

Speaker 1:
[06:51] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[06:52] And she said, you know, I said, what does that mean? And she tells us, oh, I said, well, then we all do that.

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Speaker 2:
[08:20] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[08:21] What do you think about relationships? Like, do you soft launch a relationship, hard launch a relationship? Do you keep it private? What do you believe?

Speaker 2:
[08:33] You know what I believe? The relationship is between two people. Keep it between two people. But they don't have to be no soft launch. You ain't got to put your shit on social media. You don't owe the world. The world doesn't need to know who you're sleeping with. They don't need to know who you went to dinner with. They don't need to know that you're doing this. Keep it with that one person.

Speaker 1:
[08:55] But obviously though, I mean, everyone uses social media.

Speaker 2:
[08:59] You don't send me posts and shit like that.

Speaker 1:
[09:01] You want to post photos of your significant other or just a big life moment or a vacation or you think that's wrong with that?

Speaker 2:
[09:09] You want to brag about it?

Speaker 1:
[09:11] No, because you're happy.

Speaker 2:
[09:12] No, you ain't. You're not doing it because you're happy. You're doing it for the clicks, for the likes. You're doing it to brag and to show off. If you love somebody, if you love them the way God intended for you to love them, you ain't out here auctioning them off. Because if you're going to put them on your social media and talk about how great they are, you're looking for bids.

Speaker 1:
[09:33] No, you're just happy with your life.

Speaker 2:
[09:35] No, you're bragging and boasting.

Speaker 1:
[09:37] You post about mom.

Speaker 2:
[09:40] Well, that's a miracle that I ended up with that.

Speaker 1:
[09:43] It is. I don't know how she puts up with you. I really don't.

Speaker 2:
[09:46] Well, I'm not going to share that with you because you're my daughter.

Speaker 1:
[09:48] Shut up. You're disgusting. Okay. What do you think of dating apps in today's day and age?

Speaker 2:
[09:56] I never had to have such as that. I never had to have no help getting somebody pregnant. I never had to go out here and get on the computer to find somebody to lay down with. I didn't have that problem.

Speaker 1:
[10:04] But what do you think of the idea of dating apps?

Speaker 2:
[10:05] Obviously, they don't work because they keep creating new ones every damn day.

Speaker 1:
[10:10] Well, maybe they work so well that they keep creating new ones.

Speaker 2:
[10:14] No, because if they work so damn well, there wouldn't be so many people needing it.

Speaker 1:
[10:17] Well, you know, I think there's, I don't know if it's like Bumble or one of those apps, but they will actually pay for people's weddings that like meet on their app.

Speaker 2:
[10:27] Well, because that's great marketing.

Speaker 1:
[10:29] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[10:29] Because that's saying to all these other suckers out here, look, I found my husband on Bumblebee or whatever y'all call it, Bumblebee or Bumble or whatever.

Speaker 1:
[10:38] You remember whenever I tried to sign up for one and I got blocked? You remember that?

Speaker 2:
[10:45] Yeah, because one of the actors on there blocked you or athlete.

Speaker 1:
[10:51] No, it was whenever I was talking to this athlete and he was talking to multiple other people and it was very public of the people he was talking to. So I signed up for this dating app. And then he calls me as we're walking down like Rodeo Drive.

Speaker 2:
[11:05] He said, I'm not agreeing for you to be on there.

Speaker 1:
[11:07] He said, next time you go to sign up for a dating app, why don't you make sure you sign up for one that my friend didn't create? And then they blocked me for like years.

Speaker 2:
[11:15] Because he didn't want you on there.

Speaker 1:
[11:16] Yeah, he didn't want me but didn't want anybody else to have me on there.

Speaker 2:
[11:19] Right.

Speaker 1:
[11:20] Who do you think lies more in relationships, men or women?

Speaker 2:
[11:26] I used to say men, but today I think it's women.

Speaker 1:
[11:30] Really? What do you mean?

Speaker 2:
[11:32] Because women have just turned into men. I think that women have literally, that they feel so empowered about this whole, my body, my choice. I can make as much as you can make. We're equal partners in this. I can do what I want to do, you can do what you want to do. But when you do what you want to do, then I get to get pissed off about it. I think that the roles have been so twisted now, that that's why you're having trouble with men and women coming together and having a successful relationship, because the man has been so diminished in the eyes of the woman as far as the masculine role goes, because she views that masculinity as control.

Speaker 1:
[12:18] But do you not also think, though, that men have done a lot of this to themselves in today's day and age?

Speaker 2:
[12:24] Because they're not as strong.

Speaker 1:
[12:26] There are not, men in today's day and age are, like my age, are not what men were back in your day.

Speaker 2:
[12:33] There has been a...

Speaker 1:
[12:35] Men are so soft.

Speaker 2:
[12:36] There has been a softening, but that's due to the way they've been raised, because we want to, because listen, you got brothers. And how many times do I say, when one of them tells me something, I go, well, hell, don't be talking about her. You ain't no catch.

Speaker 1:
[12:52] Yeah, you have.

Speaker 2:
[12:54] So in order for you to find a good woman, you got to be a better man. And at the end of the day, yes, I will agree to some of that. But when a woman says, when a man's trying to hold a door for her and she goes, I can do that myself, see that that is stripping, that is stripping a man of his masculinity and of his role.

Speaker 1:
[13:15] Yeah, I've never understood that. Like, I expect you to open up the car door for me. I expect you to open up a restaurant door for me.

Speaker 2:
[13:23] And to pull your chair out.

Speaker 1:
[13:24] Yes, I expect things like that.

Speaker 2:
[13:26] That's right.

Speaker 1:
[13:27] And I've said, I went, there was a time where I was like, die hard, I am woman, hear me roar.

Speaker 2:
[13:33] And how would that work out for you?

Speaker 1:
[13:34] Oh, it's terrible. There's nothing that's attractive about it in my eyes. Like, there's something so much more attractive about being softer, allowing a man to do. Thank you.

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Speaker 1:
[13:48] Because it was, I was very anti.

Speaker 2:
[13:51] God tell me, I know.

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Speaker 2:
[15:51] I don't agree with all that shit.

Speaker 1:
[15:52] Or like situation ships.

Speaker 2:
[15:55] Situation ships.

Speaker 1:
[15:57] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[15:57] What is that?

Speaker 1:
[15:58] Like a situation ship is like, you're basically dating someone, but you're not dating them.

Speaker 2:
[16:05] I think that any relationship needs the first thing that you have to have is common, is respect for each other, but be 100% transparent. Because my thing is, is that like, now you know that I'm friends with a lot of people that I hold with.

Speaker 1:
[16:22] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[16:23] And they know hard finish between us. Because I was always very transparent with mine. I think you have to be 100% transparent. That if we're going out to dinner on Saturday, and this is, hey, what are you doing this weekend? You want to go to dinner? That don't mean that I'm getting ready for us to go look at houses on next Thursday. That means I'm hungry and that-

Speaker 1:
[16:48] You don't want to eat alone.

Speaker 2:
[16:50] Yeah. And that if things go progress after that, then great. But that don't mean I'm putting a ring on you.

Speaker 1:
[16:57] But how can you sit here and say, okay, so that's for like, hey, I'm hungry, let's go have dinner and let's sleep together. But then you want to like hold women to the cross and talk about them sleeping with men.

Speaker 2:
[17:13] They can always say no. But if a woman would tell a man, no, if you tell me I can't eat today, I'm going to be hungrier on the next day, right? And if I don't eat for two days, I'm starving on the third day. So you set the table. A woman sets the table and the man has to learn to abide by it or move on.

Speaker 1:
[17:40] But men should also be the leaders, correct?

Speaker 2:
[17:44] And I did. I led you to the bedroom. That's what I was planning on doing to begin with.

Speaker 1:
[17:48] I think what you're saying is so-

Speaker 2:
[17:50] Double standard.

Speaker 1:
[17:51] Double standard, hypocritical.

Speaker 2:
[17:54] Think about all these girls that message your brothers. What did they tell them that they want to do?

Speaker 1:
[18:01] Yeah. I mean, that's just a whole different-

Speaker 2:
[18:03] So those girls are setting the table.

Speaker 1:
[18:07] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[18:07] They are putting on the menu, letting him know what the menu holds.

Speaker 1:
[18:11] That they'll sleep with him that night.

Speaker 2:
[18:12] Exactly. So if you set the standard, then the man will rise up to it. And if he doesn't, you ain't lost nothing.

Speaker 1:
[18:20] Okay. We'll kind of see eye to eye a little differently. Do you think men are intimidated by strong women or are they just lazy?

Speaker 2:
[18:35] I think if a man is intimidated by a woman, period, then he lacks his own sense of being. I have always been attracted to that. I've always been attracted to a woman of independent means that didn't need me for the financial part, and that could take care of what she needed to take care of. That was a turn on for me.

Speaker 1:
[18:59] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[18:59] But that's because I was secure with who I was. You have dated men, or boys, young men, that were not secure with who they are.

Speaker 1:
[19:10] No.

Speaker 2:
[19:10] You were way more secure with who you were, and you came out of the stable screaming, I am woman, hear me roar.

Speaker 1:
[19:20] Yes. That is accurate.

Speaker 2:
[19:21] And so, and you attracted these weaker men who were willing to let you do.

Speaker 1:
[19:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[19:29] And thank God that phase has passed.

Speaker 1:
[19:33] Thank God. I also think it was hard too though, because especially, I think, in where we live, being in the South, women do have, women have had roles, right? Women have had roles, men have had roles, and even me dating older people, especially in the South, it's like women still had a role. So I feel like even in my last relationship, it was very intimidating that I had everything going on that I had going on when this person was used to, a woman who didn't work, who stayed at home, who took care of kids. And that was never, you know me, I've always said, like, I wanna be a wife, I wanna be a mother, I wanna take care of my kids, but I'm always gonna have my job going on as well.

Speaker 2:
[20:29] You can always retain your independence, but your independence of, you know, your independence should never come into play when it comes to the care of your children, the care of your marriage, or your relationship with Christ. If you go Christ first, your husband, then your children, then everything else comes after that. Even me, I know that's shocking, but even me.

Speaker 1:
[20:54] I mean, that's shocking for you.

Speaker 2:
[20:55] Even me.

Speaker 1:
[20:56] I saw something on Instagram the other day about a tax break basically for stay-at-home moms. If you're giving up your job and your career and you're staying at home, that there's some loophole or whatever on Instagram.

Speaker 2:
[21:18] Don't be asking me taxes.

Speaker 1:
[21:20] Trust me, I'm not. I'm not asking nobody. Account it please because I'm not looking to chat for nothing. But do you think if a woman is giving up her entire life to stay at home with your kids, do you think she should be rewarded monetarily for that?

Speaker 2:
[21:39] Well, I think that if you have a wife that has placed her children and her household and her husband first and has given up her independence, when I say independence, independence in the world outside of that house, then she is an equal partner to you and she should be entitled to 50% of everything that you have. But without that, you wouldn't have been able to go out here and do what you've done.

Speaker 1:
[22:03] See, I agree with that. But there are a lot of people that don't agree with that. And I'm just saying now, like if I'm having kids, I'm staying at home, I am forgoing any income that I would be making. The person that I'm with better be able to make up for what I'm forgoing.

Speaker 2:
[22:22] Well, I think that if you love someone, it should never be based on the monetary value there. I think that it has to be, it shouldn't be that he needs to make up the lost salary because basically you've just become a Bonnie Blue.

Speaker 1:
[22:35] No, no.

Speaker 2:
[22:36] You know, I think that you love someone and you build a future together and you work on the budget that you have. And then everything that y'all create together is ours. I mean, that's the way it should be. I don't think you should look at it that, wait a minute, now I gave up my career to have this baby for you and that was a million dollars a year that I was making, so I need to be compensated for that because then you start getting into, you know, like, okay, how many babies do I need to have per my prenuptial agreement to make sure that I'm getting this and this and this? Then it's a contract. This is a business.

Speaker 1:
[23:12] It is. And that's where it gets messy. I just feel like I have seen recently on like TikTok and all these, you know, people sharing too much, but you know, you've got a husband's going out here blowing all this money and then they're saying, they're telling the stay at home wife and mother, oh, you can have X amount of money to spend.

Speaker 2:
[23:35] The spouse is saying.

Speaker 1:
[23:36] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[23:36] Well.

Speaker 1:
[23:37] But while he's going out here and blowing on all this money on all of his toys, but see now you've taken a different, that's not what you said initially.

Speaker 2:
[23:45] What you said initially was how did I feel about a woman who gives up her career in the outside world to be a mother and a wife and a home taker?

Speaker 1:
[23:54] Should the spouse make up for that?

Speaker 2:
[23:57] Well, I think that he is because he's providing a home, he's providing a lifestyle.

Speaker 1:
[24:01] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[24:02] But you're saying that she's driving a minivan, he's driving a Ferrari. I mean, that's unevenly yoked.

Speaker 1:
[24:10] What would you do if that was happening to me?

Speaker 2:
[24:12] Well, that ain't gonna happen to you. That would never happen, because I would say to you, I'd be lost to your mind.

Speaker 1:
[24:15] Well, first off, you know how strong headed I am. So that would never happen.

Speaker 2:
[24:19] That's why I said, it's never something that I'd have to be worried about.

Speaker 1:
[24:21] What do you?

Speaker 2:
[24:22] I worry about him, I don't worry about you.

Speaker 1:
[24:25] What is that supposed to mean?

Speaker 2:
[24:26] It just means that I know what I've raised, and there are times that I get cringey about it, and there's other times I'm like, yeah, that's mine.

Speaker 1:
[24:33] What is something that you would say you're nervous about when it comes to me and my life?

Speaker 2:
[24:40] I think that you and I suffer from one big, you and I suffer from one situation that causes us to always be seeking the next best biggest thing. Because once we get something, then there's always something shinier over the hill. And so we're always chasing the shiniest thing.

Speaker 1:
[25:04] Well, I think that's hard work ethic.

Speaker 2:
[25:06] No, I used to think that I used to justify me buying all this stuff and doing the things I was doing by saying, oh, but that's the goal, to always get better and bigger. No, I think the goal is, at 57, for me, the goal is to be happy. The goal is to have peace in your life.

Speaker 1:
[25:22] Well, yeah, dad, of course, that's everyone's goal, is to be happy and peaceful. But let's face it, when you're sad, would you not rather cry in a four seasons or a Motel 8?

Speaker 2:
[25:35] Well, I ain't doing the Motel 8. Them days is long gone, thank you, Jesus. But I think that I would be looking at why am I crying, not where I'm crying, where I'm doing the crying.

Speaker 1:
[25:47] Yeah, but there's just situations that are out of your control. Life just happens to you at times.

Speaker 2:
[25:52] Who are you talking about? Life ran the hell all over me.

Speaker 1:
[25:55] So you just want to make sure you're in a position to where you can, you know, it's like that thing that's been going around on social media. I am too old to be living an uncomfortable life. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[26:11] Then she said that. I think that it all comes down to what your level of comfort is, and the things that you find comfort in. I and your mother have lived for 28 months on less than we've ever lived in our life. And I learned that 80% of the stuff that I have, I don't need. I have it because I want it, not because I need it. And my desires have shifted. Now, I want you to have whatever you want in your life and whatever, and you're going to have to make the mistakes that you're going to have to make in order for you to ever change your thought process, because we don't change our thought process until we've actually, until we actually, something happens and we actually realize that's not going to work. That's not the best choice. And that's how that's how my thought process changed a lot. But 28 months of being away from the people that you love more than anything in the world and being told that you can't have something when I have lived my whole life having what I wanted.

Speaker 1:
[27:19] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[27:20] That is that is a tool that humbles you. And so, what I would say to you about you and a relationship is that you will only be as happy in your relationship as you was before the relationship.

Speaker 1:
[27:40] Oh, without a doubt.

Speaker 2:
[27:41] So, if you're looking for that relationship to fix all of the, you know, like you had to move so much when you was a child. If you're looking, if you're looking, she was traumatized going from one mansion to the next. But if you're looking for that man to fix that, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 1:
[28:02] No.

Speaker 2:
[28:02] And it's not fair to him for you to bring him a broken, a box of broken pieces.

Speaker 1:
[28:09] Yeah. No.

Speaker 2:
[28:09] You have to do the work to put yourself back together and then present yourself as a whole woman to him. And then he can nurture that. You give him something to nurture, not something that's a damn build a bear project.

Speaker 1:
[28:23] You don't think people want build a bear projects?

Speaker 2:
[28:26] I don't.

Speaker 1:
[28:27] No, I'm kidding. I don't know. No, but I think-

Speaker 2:
[28:29] We have built enough bears out here that's walking around, that's stole from us, lied on us. We ain't rebuilding shit.

Speaker 1:
[28:36] No. But that's the thing. It is healthy to spend some time by yourself.

Speaker 2:
[28:41] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[28:42] To figure out what you want out of life, who you are, what you need to correct, so that you're not going into something just broken and messy, and you never get a good start by doing that.

Speaker 2:
[28:55] You know, I can remember always finding my self-worth and my validation in the things that I could afford, whether it be a new car or a bigger house or five houses. And I realize now how broken I was at that point in my life, how large the hole was. And I look at it now and I feel so bad for me then, because I didn't have the tools then that I have today.

Speaker 1:
[29:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:29] And I feel bad because I look back and I look at pictures, because y'all have been having all these old pictures out and stuff. And I look and I look at pictures of me and I look at how I looked in my eyes and so many pictures. When I'm looking at myself, I'm looking at a young man that was a broken, that had a gaping hole in me and someone who had so much fear. And I don't want that for any of my children. I would rather see you in a modest home with a regular car and have peace in your life, a great relationship with Christ and that you feel whole.

Speaker 1:
[30:15] But that's also not to say that you can't.

Speaker 2:
[30:18] That you can't have that in your mansion. Yes, I get that.

Speaker 1:
[30:20] That like nice things and be whole and happy.

Speaker 2:
[30:24] Absolutely. And that's what I want for you, because I'm not in competition with you. You should not be in competition with your family. You know, just because you're driving a Ferrari and I'm not, doesn't mean that you're better than me. It doesn't mean that, you know, that if I wanted one bad enough, I could go get it. But the things that you have in your life will never make you better than someone else.

Speaker 1:
[30:53] Never.

Speaker 2:
[30:54] They will never make you... You'll have that instantaneous gratification of, Oh my God, I've done this.

Speaker 1:
[31:01] I've also said too, it's having that gratification, but being able to be financially successful in my mind gives me the opportunity to, yes, of course, you're going to have nice things, but also to give back to people and not even think twice.

Speaker 2:
[31:20] Well, if you want to give back, I've got something on my mind right now that you could do for me.

Speaker 1:
[31:25] You know what I mean, though, because we're that way of showing up. If we see somebody who can't afford something, we're going to quietly take care of it.

Speaker 2:
[31:35] I just heard your mom had been most of my money the other night and asked me for money online.

Speaker 1:
[31:39] But you know, I am excited for that, to be able to give and not even think twice about giving.

Speaker 2:
[31:47] Well, and that's biblical. That's biblical because the Bible clearly says that to whom much is given, much is required. And there's only so many cars that you can drive. There's only so many houses that you can truly say that you live in. So many dresses that you can wear. And then at that point, you should be looking outward, not inward, at the people that you can be of service to. And, you know, the Bible also tells you that charity begins at home.

Speaker 1:
[32:21] I cannot with you.

Speaker 2:
[32:23] But, you know, the Bible says honor thy father.

Speaker 1:
[32:26] Uh-huh, and mother.

Speaker 2:
[32:27] With that new Mercedes convertible.

Speaker 1:
[32:29] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[32:30] But, you know, all jokes aside, I want you happy and whole, because if you're not happy and whole, my baby is not going to be happy and whole.

Speaker 1:
[32:41] Your baby.

Speaker 2:
[32:42] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[32:43] It is my baby.

Speaker 2:
[32:44] Mind how you look at it.

Speaker 1:
[32:45] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[32:46] Then my baby's not going to be happy and whole.

Speaker 1:
[32:49] I'm telling you, I'm going to have like a feral little girl. If it's anything like me, I'm.

Speaker 2:
[32:55] And look at how you turned out.

Speaker 1:
[32:56] Yeah, it turned out great. But this is going to be somebody that is like playing in mud and.

Speaker 2:
[33:03] We're not doing all that.

Speaker 1:
[33:04] Being dirty. And it's.

Speaker 2:
[33:05] No, she's going to be a lady, but I'm going to let her get by with probably whatever she wants to. But I want you to be happy and fill the hole. I want you to have that hole closed up before you give birth, because if you don't, your baby is coming in to a situation with a mother that is not a whole woman who can't be a whole mother to that child.

Speaker 1:
[33:28] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[33:28] And then that child will sense that without a doubt. And your child is not the tool to repair your soul. No, you need to you need to get on your knees and ask God to heal you, not your child, because that's not a burden that should ever be placed on a child. No. And I did that. When I had my first two children, I can remember that hole that I had that was so massive. I felt it for the first time, start to close in some.

Speaker 1:
[33:56] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[33:57] And then Chase came along, and it was like it went from this to this.

Speaker 1:
[34:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[34:04] Because that was like, I just can't even, Chase was just like-

Speaker 1:
[34:10] Well, because you were in a happy relationship.

Speaker 2:
[34:13] I had never been in love. So, I was in love with the woman that I was having a child with, and who was very independent, and who got pregnant before we got married, and who made it very clear to me when she sat me down and told me, she said, I want you to know, she says, what I'm going to tell you does not have to change your life at all. She said, I know that you were trapped in the first marriage, and I don't want to be that person to make you go through it again. But I'm pregnant, and I was like, I was like, this is not happening to me.

Speaker 1:
[34:49] This is not happening again.

Speaker 2:
[34:50] This is not happening again. And it never crossed my mind. The first time I was so scared to death and just like, oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[35:00] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[35:00] Because I never loved that woman. She was a girl at that time, and I never had any love for her. That was a one night stand, but your mother, I mean, the first time I laid eyes on her, I was in love with her.

Speaker 1:
[35:15] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[35:16] And when she sat there, she says, but I'm having my baby. I'm keeping my baby. And I looked at her, I just stared at her, and I said, we're going to get married. She says, no, we're not. You've already done that. She said, I don't need you to take care of my baby. She says, I've got a job. She says, if I have to get another one, she says, I'll get another one. She said, but I'll take care of my baby. And when she said that to me, it was like one of the most freeing moments of my life.

Speaker 1:
[35:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[35:50] Because then I felt loved for the first time.

Speaker 1:
[35:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[35:53] Because I knew that it was not about anything. Yes. Listen, your mama held tight. We got married on the 25th, and Chase was born on June 1st. So she was not wavering. And it took a lot of me saying, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. So Chase came into this world. And when I remember holding him for the first time, and it felt like I was able to exhale.

Speaker 1:
[36:23] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:24] And I could come in from work, and she'd have him in that little swing, and he had the longest little legs, and he'd just start jumping as soon as he saw me. And that brought me so much joy and so much calm. And then you came along. And I remember thinking that, because you came along 14 months later.

Speaker 1:
[36:47] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:48] And your poor mother. And I remember when your mother pushed you out, and they handed you to me, and I was sitting on this little black rolling stool. And I looked into your eyes, it's like you stared through my soul. And there was that, it was a feeling that I had never experienced, not to say that I didn't have a connection with the others, because I did. But you're in a different time. Every one of my children came to me at a time that I needed them.

Speaker 1:
[37:20] Yeah. But you're also at a different place in your healing process.

Speaker 2:
[37:24] Yes. And I was in a, I was in a, the first time in my life I'd ever felt safe was with your mother.

Speaker 1:
[37:32] But then you also say, you know, with Grayson, you truly got to enjoy raising Grayson.

Speaker 2:
[37:39] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[37:39] And like, I don't take offense to that, because you were in a different place in life.

Speaker 2:
[37:43] But I enjoyed raising you and Chase. Lindsay and Kyle was hard because there was, you know, the money wasn't there.

Speaker 1:
[37:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:51] They still had everything, but the money wasn't there like it was with y'all. But with Grayson, he came at the epitome of our wealth. And everything became so much easier. And there was not a need to say no. There was no budgetary requirement. But there was no budget requirements with you and Chase. But I was older. I was 36 years old. So, I mean, at the end of the day, I might have been older than that. He's 19. So, he's 20 next month. And I'm 57. Be 58 next week.

Speaker 1:
[38:30] Yes, you were 37.

Speaker 2:
[38:31] So, 37. So, 37 years old, your mother and I were kind of very stable and knew what our life was.

Speaker 1:
[38:36] It was just different.

Speaker 2:
[38:37] Yes, it was just different. But there is never, every one of my children have given me something that has been wonderful in my life. When you came out and I held you and was cleaning your face off and cleaning your eyes out, it's like you stared into my soul. And that has stayed.

Speaker 1:
[38:53] And I still do that?

Speaker 2:
[38:55] That has stayed. And for that, I'm grateful because I have, you know, I think about, I have a buddy of mine that he's, he's got two boys and both of them are married. And he doesn't have that relationship with the daughter-in-law.

Speaker 1:
[39:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[39:12] Neither does the mother, neither does his wife. And both of his boys' wives are now pregnant. They're gonna be three months apart.

Speaker 1:
[39:21] Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:
[39:22] And so he said, in her family, she includes them in everything.

Speaker 1:
[39:27] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[39:28] And he says, and we don't get invited to anything.

Speaker 1:
[39:29] That's awful.

Speaker 2:
[39:30] And I said, but I blame that on your sons.

Speaker 1:
[39:32] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[39:32] Not on her. I said, I blame that on your sons. And I said, I know it's hurtful. And I said, because, you know, as a parent, you sacrifice for your children. You give them everything that you can give them. You give them your heart, your soul. And then, and you raise your children to grow up and to be self-sustained and self-sufficient. But inside of you, as a mom and dad, you still want to be wanted and needed. You don't really, and I can say this for me, I never raised my children to give you away.

Speaker 1:
[40:07] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[40:09] I raised my children for you to be able to take care of yourself, but to always come home. So I feel bad for him because he's just got these two boys that the girls are running their lives. I know that I'm not going to have that problem with you because I know that I'm going to see my baby. I do worry about chasing Grayson, them getting tied up with someone, and that that could happen with them.

Speaker 1:
[40:34] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[40:34] Because that would destroy your mother.

Speaker 1:
[40:36] And that's what I hate is that I do feel like women have become very divisive and when they get in relationships, because at the end of the day, when I'm with someone, we're spending our lives together. So we're going to be with each other 24 seven. What does it hurt us to include my family and their family and things? It doesn't hurt us to do anything. Like it doesn't hurt us to do that, but by not including them, it hurts way more people.

Speaker 2:
[41:14] Absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[41:14] So if it's not a very unhealthy, toxic situation, include them.

Speaker 2:
[41:20] That's right.

Speaker 1:
[41:20] Understand that everyone's going through this process together. Love those people because at the end of the day, his parents aren't going to be around forever and neither are yours.

Speaker 2:
[41:29] That's right. That's right. And I mean, you know, I think about, I know that we're good with you, but I do worry about your brothers.

Speaker 1:
[41:40] Yeah. Oh, I will grab them by the hair of their damn head and snap them back into it.

Speaker 2:
[41:47] I do worry about your brothers. Really more, I really worry more about Chase than I do Grayson, because Grayson has just got so much of me in him.

Speaker 1:
[41:55] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[41:57] Chase does have a lot of the huge side in him. And so I do worry about that, but I'm going to try not to worry about things until they get here.

Speaker 1:
[42:06] Also Grayson's more attached.

Speaker 2:
[42:09] Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[42:10] Than Chase's.

Speaker 2:
[42:11] Yes. And I will continue. Which is so odd.

Speaker 1:
[42:16] I know. But I will continue to nurture that with Grayson. I'm going to make sure he's attached forever. I've got my ways.

Speaker 2:
[42:24] He called me on my way over here today and he goes, I'd send him a picture of this car that I'm getting. And he goes, that is sick. He said, yeah, I'm rocking that around. And I said, because you know, Samantha's not going to let me drive her car. And I said, no, she ain't going to let you have that car. And so he said, he told me, he said, daddy, because your mother had said about the house in Texas, your mother said, why are you worrying about having these kids all their own rooms and stuff? I said, so when they come home, and she said, but Todd, Savannah's never coming back home. She has her own home. Grayson, and Todd, Grayson's in college. When he leaves college, he's not coming back home. And so I called Grayson.

Speaker 1:
[43:14] He's gonna have us our rooms. I want to be able to know that I've got-

Speaker 2:
[43:18] You've got a soft landing.

Speaker 1:
[43:20] Yeah. And I don't want to share with nobody. I want to be able to leave my stuff there.

Speaker 2:
[43:24] That's right.

Speaker 1:
[43:25] And then just like, if I just jump on a plane and be like, hey, I can be there in an hour.

Speaker 2:
[43:29] Right, exactly.

Speaker 1:
[43:30] Yeah, don't listen to her.

Speaker 2:
[43:31] But that's okay because-

Speaker 1:
[43:32] Just like this is the same witch that I said, you know, if something were to happen to me, and I have these eggs, I have left them to where they go to you.

Speaker 2:
[43:44] To your mother.

Speaker 1:
[43:44] Yeah. And she's like, well, what would you want me to do with them? I said, well, I would hope that you would want to have somebody have one. Like, so you have a piece of me. And she's like, no, I can't do that.

Speaker 2:
[43:58] And then you come to me.

Speaker 1:
[43:59] And you're like, yeah, I'll hire somebody to have it. Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[44:02] I'll move them in with us.

Speaker 1:
[44:03] Could you imagine just throwing them away?

Speaker 2:
[44:06] I would never in my life, because you already know how I feel about, if it's an embryo, it's a baby.

Speaker 1:
[44:13] Yeah, but could you imagine, like, something happening to me and me being gone forever and then having an option to have a part of me and you choose not to?

Speaker 2:
[44:22] That would happen. If you had seven embryos, I'd have seven implanted.

Speaker 1:
[44:26] My God.

Speaker 2:
[44:27] So I'd have, if all seven of them took, then I'd have seven, I might get me a bus.

Speaker 1:
[44:31] Well, on that note, we're gonna wrap things up. But before we do, you, Chase and Grayson, have your podcast coming out April 10th. I don't know when this is airing, but Two Sons and Me, right?

Speaker 2:
[44:44] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[44:45] Okay, that's coming out April 10th. And I know the first episode or two was a little rocky in recording, because y'all are kinda, that's a lot of male energy. But it's gonna be great. I just saw the teaser, it's amazing.

Speaker 2:
[44:59] Yes, I love it. And I love that they have that platform where they can come in and say what they wanna say from a guy's standpoint. And we're booking a lot of guys to come on the podcast.

Speaker 1:
[45:14] I mean, I'm proud of Grayson, because this is really-

Speaker 2:
[45:16] You should be proud of Chase too.

Speaker 1:
[45:18] No, I am. I'm proud of Chase too, but Chase is 30. Grayson is 19. And Grayson grew up as four year, five years old on TV. And now he's on a platform and having a voice of his own. And he actually has some great viewpoints and thoughts, and this is going to be the world's first time seeing Grayson truly as a young adult male and not a child.

Speaker 2:
[45:46] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[45:46] That's what I meant. I'm proud of Chase too, but it's just, this is Grayson's first-

Speaker 2:
[45:51] Grayson is an old soul. Grayson's way of analyzing things and conceptualizing is like literally about 10 years more than what he is an age. And, but yet he's still a baby at heart. So, you know, like I was saying about the house, I said, Grayson, I said, your mom just sent me to stop worrying about doing a room for you because you're not coming. He goes, what is wrong with her?

Speaker 1:
[46:14] Yeah, something's wrong with her.

Speaker 2:
[46:16] He goes, dad, whether I come back home full-time or not, I still want my own room. When I want to come home, I can come home.

Speaker 1:
[46:23] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[46:23] I said enough said. I called the agent, said that house is not going to work. I got to make sure that all of my children have their own rooms.

Speaker 1:
[46:29] Thank you. So, two sons and me.

Speaker 2:
[46:31] Two Sons and Me airs April 10th. You can find it everywhere that you find Chrisley Confessions 2.0 and Unlocked.

Speaker 1:
[46:40] So, you have on all podcast apps as well as YouTube video.

Speaker 2:
[46:45] That's correct.

Speaker 1:
[46:46] So, guys, go watch it on YouTube. Subscribe to their channel, Two Sons and Me. It's going to be great. I'm excited to watch it. So, thank you for coming on.

Speaker 2:
[46:55] Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1:
[46:55] Depending on how I feel with all my egg retrieval stuff, dad may step in for me for an episode. We'll see, but remember...

Speaker 2:
[47:02] It depends on if you're sick, because if you're sick, I could be sick on that same day.

Speaker 1:
[47:06] Okay. Well, you can't be sick when I'm sick. That doesn't work like that anymore. It worked when I was younger, but now we're both adults with jobs. You can't be sick and I be sick, and then I can't take over for you, and you can't take over for me.

Speaker 2:
[47:16] But if I have a cyst...

Speaker 1:
[47:18] Well, then it better rupture and you better come back to life.

Speaker 2:
[47:22] Oh, God. Folks, I may see you in a couple of weeks on Unlocked. The Wear Pants, The Fairly Odd Parents and Ghosts. Pluto TV is always free.

Speaker 1:
[47:54] Pluto TV, stream now, pay never.