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Speaker 1:
[00:00] I'm gonna be out of town for a week soon, and I'm already dreading the mattress, because it's not gonna be as good as the helix I have at home.

Speaker 2:
[00:06] Whenever I hear about Bobby going out of town, I'm like, the mattress is gonna be a real issue.

Speaker 1:
[00:11] And you think, this is gonna make great content for our helix ad, which it will and which it did, just now.

Speaker 2:
[00:17] Yesterday, when I changed my sheets, I thought, I'm never changing this mattress. I never have to change my mattress, this mattress rocks. I love my helix.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[01:31] I'm Lindsey Weber.

Speaker 1:
[01:33] And breaking news.

Speaker 3:
[01:35] Caramels are a fad.

Speaker 4:
[01:37] Milk chocolate candies, that's the future.

Speaker 1:
[01:40] Caramels are a fad, milk chocolate candies are the future. And that is from the trailer for Hershey starring Alexander D'Addario. Are we gonna cut this? If I could just crack the recipe.

Speaker 5:
[01:52] You keep chasing perfection and maybe you should be chasing magic. Nice batches.

Speaker 1:
[02:01] Perfect.

Speaker 2:
[02:02] I felt like they didn't get a good line, like a classic women in balloons line in the trailer. I feel like I'm a little disappointed by this trailer. I was waiting for someone to say something like, chocolate, like it's called chocolate or like something, you know, like, you know, like something truly like.

Speaker 1:
[02:19] Chocolate doesn't belong in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 5:
[02:22] When you follow your dream, you don't let anyone get in your way.

Speaker 2:
[02:25] I do worry this is really just going to be like Timmy, Fee, Chalamet, Charlie, The Chocolate Factory vibes, which it like already is kind of, you know.

Speaker 1:
[02:33] But there are no songs.

Speaker 2:
[02:34] Yeah, but it's still kind of like the magic of chocolate, like chocolate is about the magic or like milk ingredients, I don't know, you know, that part where she's like magic.

Speaker 1:
[02:46] What does she say here?

Speaker 5:
[02:46] You keep chasing perfection and maybe you should be chasing magic.

Speaker 1:
[02:53] Will we be seeing this? I didn't realize it was an Angel Pictures release, which means it's faith-based.

Speaker 2:
[02:58] What does that mean?

Speaker 1:
[02:59] It's a company that makes like very Christian television shows and movies.

Speaker 2:
[03:05] Does that, could that mean it's all, it's just like very PG too?

Speaker 1:
[03:08] Yeah, I think it's either the Mr. Hershey or Hershey, Pennsylvania is an extremely like Christian town or it's just deeply family-friendly. I think it's more of the latter.

Speaker 2:
[03:19] Yeah, so it's not like, oh God, like at the end, it's like, and I'm God and I made the chocolate. You're welcome. Bye.

Speaker 1:
[03:25] You're welcome. That's what he does. Why is this so funny to me?

Speaker 2:
[03:30] Can't cut this now.

Speaker 1:
[03:31] We were gone last week and this always happens, just earth shattering news happens while we're not recording and the earth shattering news that happened this time was the Hershey trailer drop while Lindsey was on vacation.

Speaker 2:
[03:42] Just like the Hadron Collider happened when Lauren was away, the Hershey trailer did drop while I was on vacation.

Speaker 1:
[03:48] I didn't realize this was coming out so quickly. It feels like just last week they were shooting it in Hershey, Pennsylvania. I guess these sorts of movies are made quickly and cheaply.

Speaker 2:
[03:56] It took one week to shoot it. If you feel like it was just last week that they were filming this movie, you are correct.

Speaker 6:
[04:05] It was.

Speaker 1:
[04:07] Hershey movie production. I didn't expect it to look this cheap because I didn't know it was an Angel Films release, but whatever, we'll be seeing it at Regal.

Speaker 2:
[04:17] Will it even be at Regal? Great question.

Speaker 1:
[04:19] I don't know. We are back finally. Everything else that happened while Lauren was gone was Coachella. Coachella happened. It's over.

Speaker 2:
[04:28] It's actually a smart idea to take Coachella off because I feel like Coachella has become like the week we've always stuff, used to always happen and now nothing happens. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[04:37] I do.

Speaker 2:
[04:38] Nothing happens there anymore.

Speaker 1:
[04:40] It's covered more than ever, but nothing really happens. It's just people are there.

Speaker 2:
[04:45] In a way where the music is covered and that's cool and I love music, but there's not as many fun and funny things happening for our purposes is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:
[04:56] Yeah, I agree with that. Although this was the first time that Nicole Richie and Joel Madden's rarely seen daughter was seen at Coachella. She is now 18 and Kate was there. She is giving Punnett Square. She looks like both of them.

Speaker 2:
[05:08] But she's also giving big eyes like Amy Adams in Big Eyes and not Amy Adams in Big Eyes, the paintings that Amy Adams paints in Big Eyes. I watched Big Eyes. I know that she's not the Big Eyes.

Speaker 1:
[05:19] I like that you put in the Big Eyes screenshot of her painting, not just a child with big eyes, but a cat with big eyes. I'd forgotten that she did the animals with big eyes as well.

Speaker 2:
[05:29] Well, I would argue that Joel Madden and Nicole Richie's daughter looks like the cat from Big Eyes more so than the girl from Big Eyes. She's giving more cat. I mean, her eyes are really big. I'm a little bit like AI, a little bit like Facetune. Did we make the eyes bigger? Her eyes are just so big. They are really, really big. Who has eyes like that?

Speaker 4:
[05:47] Nicole Richie kind of has eyes like that.

Speaker 2:
[05:49] Never seen eyes like that. I feel like Coachella used to be full of all these fun micro stories about influencers doing funny shit. Now it's kind of homogenized where everything is influencer shit. So it's kind of boring, right? Nothing exciting happens. It's like, oh, we got a glimpse of Nicole Richie and Joel Madden's rarely seen daughter Kate. She's got big eyes.

Speaker 1:
[06:10] She's got huge eyes.

Speaker 2:
[06:11] We used to do, this used to be like dime a dozen. Now we only saw one girl, one new girl. Do you know what I mean? Timmy was there. I bet he didn't see any girls. And I bet he didn't even go to any pop-up you know, big Cheeto tent sponsored by Lexus. I mean, actually, we should hear his. He left us a voice note telling us how his time was. I bet it's going to be like, I had fun.

Speaker 1:
[06:33] Well, I'll play it.

Speaker 7:
[06:34] Hi, Hologuids. I am Timmy and I am at Coachella and I am at the Addison race set. And I just have to say, hello. She's starting. She's starting. Okay. Hi.

Speaker 2:
[06:46] Is that the whole thing?

Speaker 7:
[06:48] Wait.

Speaker 1:
[06:48] That's the whole thing.

Speaker 7:
[06:49] Wait.

Speaker 2:
[06:51] Okay. That's exactly what I expected. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1:
[06:55] That speaks to your point.

Speaker 2:
[06:56] I said, I feel like even Timmy didn't even do his normal, like I'm at the Cheetos lounge or whatever. He was just like, I'm here for the music. There really actually isn't anything that funny going on. Everything is so normalized. Everything is so like, Magnum Ice Cream made its debut at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival as the festival's first ever frozen dessert sponsor.

Speaker 1:
[07:17] I don't know what it's a factor of. Usually back in the day, you would laugh at all of the brand activations. Like every year we would have a list of all the brand activations and we would laugh about them.

Speaker 2:
[07:26] Right.

Speaker 1:
[07:26] Those are still happening, but they're less funny. I guess they're just so expected now. And the production quality in terms of like, it's been like this for a few years, but like what I kind of like about Coachella, the new version, is that the accessibility of the performances is so high now. It's so easy to watch the shows that like the music has trumped the ridiculousness of all of the brand stuff in a way. Yeah. I'm like, oh, it's so easy to share the performances now that people are focusing on the music and not the SponCon of it all. Which I find kind of nice in terms of enjoying music, but it's less fun in terms of making fun of the spectacle of everything.

Speaker 2:
[08:16] Additional brand integrations were layered across the event, including Trident's Try Different Speak Easy Lounge, a neon-lit Neutrogena Hydro Boost Water Gel installation designed for photo capture, and an immersive beauty moment from ELF Cosmetics tied to its Glow Reviver Melting Lip Balm. Skechers also hosted a lounge highlighting its Aero Burst running shoes, while Sally Hansen offered on-site manicures, nail art, and product sampling. I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1:
[08:42] Don't forget, Jasmine Tookes and Sarah Sampayo had a supermodel catch-up sesh at the pizza slime party sponsored by OutKast.

Speaker 2:
[08:50] Okay, that's kind of getting there.

Speaker 1:
[08:53] OutKast with a C, not a K.

Speaker 2:
[08:55] Okay, come on, we're getting somewhere. I'm seeing normal buildings, like a shiny Barbie box and like a Coca-Cola house or whatever, you know?

Speaker 1:
[09:07] And the poosh camp nearly blew away. It kind of did in a way. Courtney Kardashian's poosh, you're probably wondering, she's still doing that? Yes, she had a tent at Coachella and it blew away.

Speaker 2:
[09:19] You can't just build a tent, not in the desert. The wind's gonna take it.

Speaker 1:
[09:23] Courtney Kardashian's Coachella party, quote, Destroyed by sandstorm as tables and chairs fly through the air. Wait, I'm dying.

Speaker 2:
[09:31] Loft activated at Camp Poosh in Coachella Valley, returning as the event's exclusive denim sponsor as part of its Summer of Loft campaign. The offsite experience, it wasn't even there, featured a denim workshop tent, blah, blah, blah, using LoftX pooch patches. Okay, so not only was the pooch, what I keep saying pooch, not only was the poosh tent, it was like, went away, it was a LoftX poosh tent. So the jeans, the jeans flew.

Speaker 8:
[09:58] Spilling the tea on Camp Poosh, the most iconic event at Coachella. Life is measured by experiences, and today we're experiencing Camp Poosh together. I feel extremely grateful to be invited. Come with me to the Camp Poosh event at Coachella.

Speaker 9:
[10:09] The event was at a ranch in Thermal.

Speaker 10:
[10:11] It was the prettiest property.

Speaker 8:
[10:13] Then we waited in line for our wristbands and to get checked in. If you've ever wondered what it's like to go to Courtney Kardashian's Coachella event, Camp Poosh, I'm taking you guys with me and spilling my honest thoughts, so come along. It's held at this giant estate in the middle of the desert. It's super secluded, but you're only allowed to uber there.

Speaker 10:
[10:28] We made it to Camp Poosh. What a journey to get here, but we made it, you guys. All thanks to you and of course, Poosh. Now this is my fourth year attending and I was so excited to get to run into so many of my favorite influencers and like love Island stars, you guys. It was packed. There were so many people here, but hands down, my favorite part is the Kardashian activation.

Speaker 1:
[10:47] So that's Coachella. Let's talk about speaking of sponsorships, speaking of brands, Miles Teller cashes out on a hand cocktail company in $325 million sale, M-Dash, but I'm not retiring from acting. I keep seeing this headline that Miles Teller cashes out on a $325 sale of his investor brand long drink, which you've probably seen at bars. But Miles Teller didn't make all $325 million of that. We don't know how much he made of that.

Speaker 4:
[11:18] He has not revealed that.

Speaker 2:
[11:19] No one's talking about, you know who else is an investor? Kygo, the DJ. And no one's saying that. Everyone's focusing on Miles Teller. I mean, it's just funny because it's like, people are like, oh, you cashed out on your canned cocktail company in a $325 million sale. Well, does that mean you'll stop acting? And he's like, no, because he probably made like, what is, I would say, two movies worth of salary or something from this cash out. Maybe three. Three movies. Well, is it Hershey? I don't know. What movie is it? How much was he paid?

Speaker 1:
[11:53] We don't know his quote. I would guess that he's making a couple of million dollars for every movie. And I bet he made 10 to $20 million on this.

Speaker 2:
[12:02] 20, which is honestly right. I'm retiring after that, but like, it's funny that-

Speaker 1:
[12:07] Not Miles.

Speaker 2:
[12:08] That's the wording of this, because that's what people are kind of like, that's the talking point or whatever of this. When it's like, he says, I don't really talk numbers, says Teller of the Acquisition, refusing to disclose his take home total. I was always taught that's not in good taste. All I'll say is I'm not retiring from acting anytime soon. I think he's implying that's not enough money for him to retire from acting, right? He's not just saying like, I love acting so much. I think he's like, it's less than you think, which it is less than I bet we think.

Speaker 1:
[12:35] I also think that Miles Teller would retire from acting if he could. He kind of seems sick of it all, you know?

Speaker 2:
[12:42] Really? You think so?

Speaker 1:
[12:44] He seems a little over it.

Speaker 2:
[12:45] I don't think so.

Speaker 1:
[12:46] I think he just wants to be a dad.

Speaker 2:
[12:47] He's in the Michael Biopic. You gotta want to do that.

Speaker 1:
[12:52] Have you ever had a long drink?

Speaker 2:
[12:54] No, I actually had to look up what it was. It's like gin. It's gin and a little juice.

Speaker 1:
[12:59] And a little juice. It's citrusy. They're good. I was in Florida some time ago, and I was at a bar, and every single person was ordering and drinking them, and I was like, what is this? And then I finally ordered one for myself, and I was like, oh, it's the most normal citrusy alcohol drink you've ever had. It's very refreshing. That's it. It's very plain.

Speaker 2:
[13:22] Yeah, it's apparently like a Finnish, they were from World War II, like during the Summer Games, the 1952 Summer Games. They invented it or something. I don't know. I didn't know. Yeah, gin, I'm out when it's gin. Sorry, I can't do gin anymore.

Speaker 1:
[13:39] But then they relaunched it some years ago. Miles said that he went to his bodega, his neighborhood bodega in the Lower East Side, saw a tasting event, said, can I invest in this? He did. Then he told his friend Kygo, hey buddy, I invested in this drink, you should invest too. And Kygo said, I will. And then Kygo said, hey buddy, to his golf player friend, Ricky Fowler, you should invest in Long Drink as well. So Ricky Fowler gave money. So all three of them are investors in this company.

Speaker 2:
[14:08] This is why it's good that I'm not rich and famous because I would just invest in anything that I enjoyed in life. I would be like, who made this? Can I invest? Like this would be something I would do. A lot, I feel.

Speaker 1:
[14:19] I know.

Speaker 2:
[14:20] You know?

Speaker 1:
[14:22] I can see it and I believe it.

Speaker 2:
[14:24] And they were bought by White Claws parent company, which is funny. That's the other thing. And I was reading about this on Vine Pair. The columnist was kind of like, I'm looking for a bad thing to say about this, but honestly, it's so smart. And I was like, wow, even the kind of cunty columnist at the liquor blog says, good deal, good purchase, great idea.

Speaker 1:
[14:47] The cunty columnist at the liquor blog.

Speaker 2:
[14:49] Didn't he give a little cunty in a good way? I mean that in a good way.

Speaker 6:
[14:52] I love guys like this.

Speaker 1:
[14:54] Of course, the other business man from Top Gun Maverick, Glenn Powell, congratulated Miles on Twitter and said, MT, remember when I saved your life that one time? Can't put a price on friendship, but if you could.

Speaker 2:
[15:07] Do you think that that diva's mad he put his money in ketchup and not this liquor?

Speaker 1:
[15:11] I was about to say. He's got a very, very robust ketchup, mustard and chip land.

Speaker 2:
[15:17] Do you think he's mad he invested in barbecue sauce and not like a canned cocktail?

Speaker 1:
[15:23] I think so. I bet you he is.

Speaker 2:
[15:25] Glenn's like, hmm, now that I'm kind of not the talk of the town right now, I really should have put not all of my money into chips, flavors of chips.

Speaker 1:
[15:36] Well, it is sort of like, Glenn has been like, I'm going to invest in myself for the past few years and it's not earning out.

Speaker 2:
[15:44] Invested in a drink that is not his heritage, doesn't have his face on it, it's not him front-facing. I didn't know that he was doing this until they used him as press when they sold it. But Glenn, his body, soul, face, spirit, secretions, everything is going into those sauces.

Speaker 1:
[16:02] I think Miles might be a smarter businessman than Glenn Powell, I have to say.

Speaker 2:
[16:05] It's true. But would I rather see Glenn Powell in a movie? A hundred times over. And I've seen so many Glenn Powell movies that are bad recently. So it's like truly still something crazy to say that.

Speaker 1:
[16:17] Have you watched his one that's like how to make a killing? I watched the first half.

Speaker 2:
[16:23] The first half. It's fine.

Speaker 1:
[16:26] That is so you.

Speaker 2:
[16:28] What? Like to stop doing something I'm not enjoying?

Speaker 1:
[16:30] You love to only watch half of a movie and say, I don't want to do this.

Speaker 2:
[16:34] Listen, if it's good, I'm not, I mean, if it's bad, I'm not following through. I got other things to do. Rather read a bad book. We got, honestly, we should be on Glenn Powell watch because things are, we need to uplift. It was promising.

Speaker 1:
[16:48] What happened to our promising young man?

Speaker 2:
[16:50] I know we just need to be on Glenn Powell watch. I'm not ready to call it on Glenn Powell, but we need to be on Glenn Powell watch. Like, mama, I'm watching you.

Speaker 1:
[16:57] I'm ready to call it in that I think that everyone's sort of realizing that he's not the savior, the instant savior that people once billed him as. Sure. He's not over, but I'm scared.

Speaker 2:
[17:09] Twisters was too good. He can't be over.

Speaker 1:
[17:11] And Hitman was too good.

Speaker 2:
[17:13] And he's in an upcoming Ron Howard untitled firefighter film project. That's gotta be good.

Speaker 1:
[17:19] And if we know anything about Ron Howard. What?

Speaker 2:
[17:22] What do we know?

Speaker 1:
[17:24] I was about to make a joke, and now I'm not gonna make it anymore. Let's move on to Leve.

Speaker 11:
[17:27] So, Miles, let me start with you. How did you get involved with this brand, which is not exactly a beer, not exactly a hard liquor, and not exactly a spirit?

Speaker 9:
[17:37] Correct, yeah. So I was up in New York, and I was just kind of walking around, and I happened to walk into a liquor store where these guys were doing a tasting of long drink. And this was very early days for them. I think this was in 2018 or 19. And I just tried it, and I thought it tasted like nothing else that I'd ever had. And so then when I got home, I was able to get a contact and kind of told those guys how much I loved it, and if they could keep sending me some. And I felt like I got enough free drinks at that point. And I said, hey, we should sit down and, you know, let's talk about doing a partnership with this. So it was very organic, and it's been wonderful. And now I'm still kind of getting them for free, but I'm a big investor as well, so it's good.

Speaker 2:
[18:27] Let's talk about a snoozer of a Coachella set. Just kidding. No, I'm not kidding, actually. She put out a music video for a new song called Mad Woman, starring lots of, you know, buzzy young stars. But the way, I guess she got Lexis to pay for the video. Music videos are apparently so much more expensive now than they ever were, because every time a music video comes out, it's like the, it used to be like, we just used to put beats in them. Now it's got to be like electric neck Lexis, you know? Electric Lexis.

Speaker 1:
[18:56] Well, I think it's less that they're more expensive now than they're just like, are they worth any investment? Where it's like, a label doesn't want to pay for it, may as well have Lexis pay for it.

Speaker 2:
[19:04] Yeah, but guess who was in this video? And that's going to get eyes on it. That's right, heated rivalry star Hudson Williams. We still, as a culture, are so horny for those men. It's been months and we're still on them. Can you believe?

Speaker 1:
[19:19] I can't. And season two hasn't even started anything.

Speaker 2:
[19:22] No, not even filming. But we haven't even gotten either of their follow-up things, just weird little Verizon commercials and like, Lauvey.

Speaker 1:
[19:31] Peloton commercials.

Speaker 2:
[19:32] And music videos and like, thirsty appearances at various award shows. It's just interesting because it's like, we're chomping at the bit.

Speaker 1:
[19:41] And we're still waiting for the phase of secondary projects that were filmed before they were famous. So there's going to be a phase of stuff from the two of them that are going to seem like they're follow-ups, but they're sort of like budget things that they happen to film before Heated Rivalry blew up.

Speaker 2:
[19:59] They should keep pay to keep those away. Can someone pay to keep those from coming out? I'm like, please keep them. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[20:05] Before they start showing up in their big post-fame projects.

Speaker 2:
[20:10] We gotta pay to keep those out, you know?

Speaker 1:
[20:13] Under lock and key. But Leve is promoting this new single in two ways that I appreciate. One is a Erawan smoothie that's just named for the song, the Mad Woman smoothie, which includes coconut water, oat milk, pink peppercorns, raspberry electrolytes, whey, pomegranate powder, strawberries, blackberries.

Speaker 2:
[20:34] Can we just point out for a second? I know she's kind of become a pop star, but let's not forget her music is literally jazz. It is kind of crazy that a woman who sings jazz music that is touching upon pop, but really not. It's very jazzy. It's still very, very jazzy. This song, Mad Woman, is not Taylor Swift going from red to 1989 or whatever that jump was. It's jazz, right? She's like Scooby-Doo, Ba-Dooby-Doo. She still is doing that. So it is kind of incredible.

Speaker 1:
[21:07] It's lovely music.

Speaker 2:
[21:08] What she's managed. Yeah, it's so fully not for me, but I literally am obsessed every time she sings because I'm like, we got a jazz star among us. That's crazy. No.

Speaker 1:
[21:45] I think it's really cool. She's in a very specific lane.

Speaker 2:
[21:48] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[21:49] But I found it funny when I opened up Fortnite over the weekend, and it was like, get the new Leve skin. And I was like, okay.

Speaker 2:
[21:57] She's in Fortnite. That's weird. That's so fucking crazy to me.

Speaker 1:
[22:04] And she's in like, if you want to spend money on the Leve skin, you can. And it's the one that I took a photo of. And it's kind of a cute little kind of a mini dress.

Speaker 2:
[22:14] Who is playing Fortnite as a jazz singer, an Icelandic jazz singer? Maybe that's...

Speaker 1:
[22:20] I'm not playing it. I just have the skin.

Speaker 2:
[22:22] Wait, but like, are you going to buy the Leve bundle that includes like a pogo stick? Oh no, it's a mic, a microphone, like some dances to jazz, like a stuffed animal, and like a Leve in like a cute little fit.

Speaker 1:
[22:36] I'm not going to get that one, but I did get the free one, which I'm pasting in, which is this dress, which is kind of like a more voluminous skirt.

Speaker 2:
[22:45] Well, she wore that.

Speaker 1:
[22:46] So I have that, which is an interesting thing to run around shooting people in. You know, like I find it visually interesting to run around like Leve because then she's evil, you know, she's got a gun.

Speaker 2:
[22:56] I'm no longer surprised by anything happening in Fortnite, I have to say. So this tweet is what got, this tweet is what like came into our world. Did you read this? Ascendant jazz pop singer Leve unveils star heavy mad woman video, Erwan Smoothie, electric Lexus honoring Miles Davis for Amazon. I think that last thing is what got people going. What's going on with the electric Lexus honoring Miles Davis for Amazon?

Speaker 1:
[23:21] Well, I'll tell you, the spirit of honoring the past while moving it forward is what makes this tribute so meaningful. Partnering with Lexus to bring this celebration to life felt natural, natural. They get how creativity and innovation can move people. Just like music does. Unsurprisingly, some of the commenters on Miles Davis' Instagram page are skeptical. Wow.

Speaker 2:
[23:42] On behalf of Miles Davis, all these people are like, how dare? Oh, she covered it for the blue and green edition RZ. Oh my God. I hope she made 400 bajillion dollars from whatever this bullshit is. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[23:59] I'm sure she did.

Speaker 2:
[24:00] Do you think because she makes highbrow jazz music, this lowbrow crap doesn't really affect her as much. It doesn't pull her in that direction. Like she's too far like-

Speaker 1:
[24:09] Kind of keeps you immune from scrutiny.

Speaker 2:
[24:11] A little bit, something. It's like because no matter what, when she gets steps up to the mic, she's singing like iconic jazz music. Like you can't even call her, you can call her a sellout, but it would be really hard, you know?

Speaker 1:
[24:24] Because she's so focused on like a niche form of- Yeah, because she's still singing jazz music. More respectable, quote, quote, quote, respectable music. Totally.

Speaker 2:
[24:33] There's something kind of amazing about like how low can you go when you're singing jazz music?

Speaker 1:
[24:38] Beep-a-doo beep-beep beep-a-doo beep-beep. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[24:42] Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[24:45] Her manager's like, well, she's in the beep-a-doo beep-beep space, so I think we have a little more leeway when it comes to taking sponsorship hits, you know? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[24:55] No, I actually kind of am like, that's true, right?

Speaker 1:
[25:01] I believe it.

Speaker 12:
[25:53] I want to be famous.

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Speaker 3:
[27:06] Hi, my name is Lloyd Lockridge and I'm the host of a new podcast from Odyssey called Family Lore. In this podcast, I'm going to have people on to tell unusual and sometimes far-fetched stories about their families.

Speaker 13:
[27:17] I've heard my whole life that she invented the margarita.

Speaker 3:
[27:20] Then we're going to investigate those stories and find out how much of it is true.

Speaker 9:
[27:24] He gets a patent one month before the Wright brothers. Oh my God.

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[27:53] Who are you calling mother?

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[28:02] Mother, here is your story worth.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[28:07] She's our age.

Speaker 1:
[28:07] Bat the Bowery. I'm doing that.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 12:
[29:27] I want to be famous.

Speaker 2:
[29:29] Okay, great. I was stung by a scorpion over vacation, but Taylor Momsen was bit by a spider, and it looks like she got it way worse.

Speaker 1:
[29:36] Looks bad.

Speaker 2:
[29:37] Because I really bounce back because I'm healthy. Nothing happened to me. I mean, a little happened to me, but I didn't have to, nothing, I didn't have to go anywhere.

Speaker 1:
[29:44] She had to go to the hospital.

Speaker 2:
[29:46] Yeah, she got the thing where they, I kind of love, I'm always obsessed with this, they draw a line around the bite.

Speaker 1:
[29:51] To see if it gets bigger, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:53] Yeah, sorry. I mean, it looks really not fun at all.

Speaker 1:
[29:57] It looks pretty gnarly. She was in Spain opening for ACDC.

Speaker 2:
[30:02] Which is pretty fucking punk rock.

Speaker 1:
[30:05] It is.

Speaker 2:
[30:06] You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[30:07] I'm impressed by, she's been this girly for like 15 years.

Speaker 2:
[30:12] But opening for ACDC and getting a gnarly spider bite is like kind of on brand for her, you know? Just like Lauvey and Alexis electric car.

Speaker 1:
[30:20] Well, remember like a couple of years ago, she was on tour with someone and got bit by a bat.

Speaker 2:
[30:28] Oh my God, you're so right. Why does she keep getting bit by stuff?

Speaker 1:
[30:32] I think she's sort of willing this stuff to happen. I think she wants the sort of punk rock experiences. So maybe she puts herself in situations where things like this can happen a little more frequently than other people than let's say, Lauvey.

Speaker 2:
[30:45] The bite comes two years after a bat bit the singer. It's like crazy because she's still on this ACDC tour. And at that time it was in Spain and now she's somewhere else. She's in Latin America and she got bit by a spider.

Speaker 1:
[31:00] So on April 9th, she was bit by a spider. Then she had to go back. She thought it was over. She was like, I'm fine. I went to the hospital. I'm fine. Then five days later, she went back to the hospital after the rash got bigger. So she had to not perform at one of her performances because she made it to the Mexico City performance, but she couldn't go to the one before that.

Speaker 2:
[31:19] So wouldn't be an ACDC tour if I didn't get bit. It's funny that it's also when she's on tour with ACDC. There's something cursed about that. I'll just say that. That seems like cursed maybe. Can we move on to what was weirdly the biggest story while I was gone that I ignored, but now have got back into? And we're still in the middle of, they're really dragging it out if this is real. Do you think this is real? Do you think this is real? Don't forget these two had a business relationship, which means it could be real.

Speaker 1:
[31:46] I know that there's stunt queens. I know that what's good for the goose is good for the gander when it comes to the ballad of the Alexes in this space.

Speaker 2:
[31:52] God, it really is, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:53] And I know that Alex with an E, Cooper, is saying this is not a PR stunt because that is a rumor that's going around. You sent me a crazy days and nights blind post that was suggesting that the Alex v. Alex feud is all fake and all a PR stunt. I think-

Speaker 2:
[32:12] It just feels likely.

Speaker 1:
[32:14] It's easier for me to put myself in Alex Cooper's shoes. And when I do that, I'm really annoyed by Alex Earle. So I kind of believe that Alex Cooper is like, shut the fuck up. What are you doing? I don't think that the feud is anything major, but I do believe that Alex Cooper is like, this girl really pisses me off.

Speaker 2:
[32:34] Really? Okay.

Speaker 1:
[32:36] Once she dropped the Instagram DMs, I was like, okay, I kind of believe it. Because I was willing to believe that it was a PR stunt for a bit.

Speaker 2:
[32:42] You're saying this makes them look bad in a way that it feels like it wouldn't be fake because they wouldn't be acting this well, or they wouldn't be showing their asses this well, really?

Speaker 1:
[32:54] I mean, to me, my interpretation of this is that Alex Cooper was willing to just say, you know what, if Alex Earle hates me and is talking shit about me, I'm going to let that slide because that's good for business, that's good for me. Maybe we can bury the hatchet on the show one day, who knows? But then I think Alex Earle started getting just mean, like overtly nasty mean, and maybe saying things that blatantly weren't true. And Alex Cooper was like, okay, I've had enough of this.

Speaker 2:
[33:21] Can I back up a little?

Speaker 1:
[33:23] Please.

Speaker 2:
[33:24] Alex Cooper, Call Her Daddy, Alex Earle, TikTok. She had a podcast on Call Her Daddy's parents network, which is called Unwell, that is Alex Cooper's company that she created as a production company around Call Her Daddy's success. So they take Alex Earle from TikTok. Alex Earle is known for telling stories on TikTok. Alex Cooper is known for podcast, Call Her Daddy podcast from way back. She never had her TikTok era. I guess she's like doing that now, but Alex Earle is straight from TikTok, where she's like, get ready with me while I like have triple bypass surgery or whatever. Like whatever it was.

Speaker 1:
[34:05] Or while I treat my acne, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[34:07] Yeah, whatever it is.

Speaker 1:
[34:07] Remember we talked about her acne skincare line a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 2:
[34:11] So these two were in business together. Something seems to have went very sour. Cause that, it's funny cause it's like, it's almost like the idea that they were in business together convinces me it's fake and real. Like there's two ways this could have gone. They're in business together and this is an elaborate thing. But then the idea that they were in business together and it broke up so spectacularly because it really did. Like she had this podcast with them and then it kind of ended and it was bad and blah. And there have been rumors about their breakup or whatever for a while. So it almost feels more likely that they actually don't like each other because it's like.

Speaker 1:
[34:43] I agree.

Speaker 2:
[34:44] Because why, cause it's very unprofessional for both of them that this podcast existed, was promoted, blah, blah, blah. And then all of a sudden didn't. That seems like a lot of work or like a lot of misdirection for a fake feud. That would be a little bit too much work, don't you think?

Speaker 1:
[35:00] Well, before Alex Cooper made the video that I found quite entertaining.

Speaker 2:
[35:06] Right.

Speaker 1:
[35:06] The thing that started this version of the feud because Alex Earle.

Speaker 2:
[35:10] Because it's fucking wimpy. It's pussy to do this part.

Speaker 1:
[35:14] You said it, not me. Like a week ago, Alex Earle posted a repost of a TikTok in which a woman who I think goes by Bravo Mom on TikTok complained about Alex Cooper very directly and was like, here's my problem with Alex Cooper. She's an ambulance chaser.

Speaker 2:
[35:31] This is what we call a cowardly sub tweet, where you find somebody else saying what you want to say, kind of.

Speaker 1:
[35:38] And then you repost it.

Speaker 2:
[35:39] And you repost it and you say nothing. Are you saying anything? No. Are you saying something? Kind of.

Speaker 13:
[35:45] I would honestly compare Alex Cooper to an ambulance chaser. Like you just had the most horrific accident of your life. You're, you know, hanging on by a thread. Don't know if you're going to make it. And she's the first one there. She's the first one there. And she's a grim reaper. She wants to get the exclusive interview. She wants to be there when you're vulnerable and you're broken down. And you're ready to sign over your rights to your life. Like she's so awful.

Speaker 2:
[36:22] Then Alex Cooper was like, okay, if you have something to say to me, I'd love to hear it. Because girl, I know you're a talker. I gave you a podcast.

Speaker 1:
[36:31] And this Alex Cooper clip kind of says what you're saying in that Alex Cooper is like, there is no beef. What is your issue with me? You're complaining about stuff that isn't real. Like, why are you starting beef when there is no beef?

Speaker 14:
[36:45] Hey guys, you guys know I don't usually address this kind of stuff because it feels like a waste of time. And honestly, it's embarrassing to participate in this. But I am obviously seeing the videos, I'm getting tagged, I see the DMs, I see the comments. So at this point, it just feels long overdue. Alex Earle, hey girl, the passive-aggressive repost and the likes and the commenting on things, I gotta call you out here. You're gonna need to get specific and just say what you gotta say about me. There's no NDA, no one is stopping you. Stop hiding behind other people and just say it yourself. What's the beef? Cause I'm really tired of waking up and seeing you using this fake drama to distract from other shit going online for you. Not interested. I know what happened and so do you. So talk. Unless the fake narrative that you're creating happens to be way more interesting. Than the truth. I have nothing to hide when it comes to you and me. So unless you actually have something to say, I'm out. This is over. Have a good Monday, everyone.

Speaker 2:
[38:26] I do think that it's a little bit too good to be true. That what I think is eventually going to happen is that Alex Earle is going to go on Caller Daddy. Though I don't necessarily think this is fake after kind of, if you think about kind of all the drama that they've been through, the ending of this, which is inevitable, is going to make it seem fake. Because ultimately, when all is said and done, eventually, I do think they're going to go on Caller Daddy and have this narrative about like, we were pushed against each other or whatever. Business is tough. Like, I felt like I wasn't supported in my business or whatever it is, right? So is that, then all this other background news comes out with sources and or whatever, but we haven't, that's where we're at in terms of anything either of them have ever said. Alex Earle has not said anything. They just, she posted a video where her friend, she's a Coachella, obviously.

Speaker 1:
[39:17] This video is so boring.

Speaker 2:
[39:18] She posted a video which her friends like showed her the Alex Cooper video and she kind of responds, but really not, like not response, reacts. She doesn't actually respond. She just kind of reacts.

Speaker 1:
[39:29] Barely reacts.

Speaker 14:
[39:30] I don't usually address this kind of stuff because Is it funny? It feels like a waste of time and honestly, it's embarrassing to participate in this. Other people and just say it yourself. What's the beef? Okay.

Speaker 2:
[39:44] She barely reacts and then that's it. Then my other favorite mamacita, well, I haven't used that word in a while, steps up to the plate. That's right. Miss Chicken Fry herself. You're thinking, where's she been? Where's Chicken Fry? You guys haven't talked about Chicken Fry in a while. That's right, because she's boring, but she loves to insert herself. So Barstool Dave gets involved because he's still aligned with Alex Cooper, right? Alex Cooper, yes. Who still likes Alex Cooper.

Speaker 1:
[40:15] The video Dave Portnoy posted made me feel ancient. It's like Dave Portnoy on a beach explaining the drama.

Speaker 2:
[40:23] He is so pathetic. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:
[40:24] He's pathetic and it made me feel like I was looking in a mirror.

Speaker 2:
[40:27] Commenting on these girls' drama, you look so fucking stupid. Sorry. Like you look, you as an older man, look fucking lame weighing in on this shit. I don't give a shit what your involvement is. Like, wow. It is crazy that every time anyone does anything, he has to say something.

Speaker 1:
[40:45] Well, the problem with the video that he made was that it made me feel like, oh my God, is this how I sound on Who Weekly when I'm talking about drama between 24 year olds? I was like, oh Jesus. Cause that is what it's like. He's like, here's what's going on between Alex Earle and Alex Cooper. But his version of events is like, I have known Alex Earle since before she was anyone. Like we signed her to Barstool. Like I knew her before the world did. And I always thought that her signing with Unwell was a stupid idea because she was already too famous. He was like, you don't want to sign with Unwell unless you're on the come up. And she did it post come up, which I found, which I thought was a bad business decision. So he's not necessarily siding with Alex Cooper, but he's like, I don't know why Alex Earle did it.

Speaker 2:
[41:24] Business, the male business perspective, it's like shut up. As if these women aren't already like dealing with money and like business, like shut up.

Speaker 1:
[41:34] And then Brianna Chickenfry, as Lindsey said, entered the conversation and was like, I side with Alex Earle. Then it was like, I've heard and I know for a fact that Alex Cooper is a mean bitch. And then Alex Cooper went on Instagram and was like, this girl on girl shit needs to stop. Well, Alex, with an I, tries to get her story together, which is funny. Let me address Brianna Chickenfry, who was adding on to the fake narrative in Dogpile. Brianna, you coming online saying I'm a mean girl, that I'm going to get destroyed in people's comments saying that I hate Alex Cooper. Here are the facts. I have never met you in my life. Here are our DMs. This is the only communication we've ever had together. And Brianna La Paglia, Chickenfry, is DMing Alex Cooper a few years ago being like, we should meet, we should be friends. I love you, you're the best.

Speaker 2:
[42:22] I never invited you on Call Her Daddy. Sorry, but I find that really hard to believe. I believe that she 100% asked Chickenfry to be on Call Her Daddy. There's no, there's no way, like there's no way she didn't.

Speaker 1:
[42:34] But at least Alex Cooper is smart enough to know there's no proof of it that exists.

Speaker 2:
[42:37] Totally, right. But it's just funny because I'm like, there's 100%, I do not buy that in for one second. Oh, you know why there also is drama between them, why she doesn't like it. She wrote this in here. I don't know if you read this part, but remember, Beyond a Chicken Fry's best friend, Grace, who she had a podcast with and they had a falling out. We talked about this on this podcast.

Speaker 1:
[42:57] Oh, then Grace was on Unwell. Yes, sorry, I explained that.

Speaker 2:
[42:59] Grace got recruited by Unwell and then they offered her a podcast. That internally is a little bit drama.

Speaker 1:
[43:08] A little bit drama.

Speaker 2:
[43:09] Anyways, I'm just saying. I feel like Cooper and Chicken Fry might have drama over that, even if there's no textual proof or whatever. Why is Chicken Fry even getting involved in this? I'm like, Chicken Fry.

Speaker 1:
[43:22] She wants attention. That's fine.

Speaker 2:
[43:23] I know. Chicken Fry is like, what about me? Remember me? I'm like, kind of. Actually, I do remember you. You were kind of fun.

Speaker 1:
[43:28] We're all forgetting Chicken Fry, so she needed to insert herself into the narrative. I think what vaguely interests me about this is that in terms of business decisions, what Alex Cooper is saying is that, is I think just realistic. She's like, when you left Unwell, this is an implication. When you left Unwell, you made it seem like there was all this bad blood, that all this shit went down. But in reality, it was probably a very boring decision that was mutually decided upon, where it was like, I think it's best if I leave Unwell. I'm speaking as Alex Earle. And I think it's good for me if I make it seem like I left under duress, or I left because of a feud, or I left because Alex Cooper is a mean girl. But Alex Cooper is saying, no, none of that happened. It was just a boring thing. You decided to stop doing it and that's okay.

Speaker 2:
[44:17] And you're trying to get eyeballs. I love when celebs realize that podcasting is not fun. It's just so funny to me because it's like a natural extension of what she does on TikTok, which is talk to camera. But then when it becomes a podcast and it's formalized and longer and you have to actually like have something to say, it's like, this is boring and I don't want to have to do this. 22 hours ago, she posted on TikTok, sorry, been filming this week. And it's her like doing pole dancing or whatever, but it's like bad. It's like funny and everyone in the comments is like, sis, enough, you're trying to build suspense, you're losing us. Everyone's kind of mad. They're like, Alex Cooper won. But I feel like they're saying that because she said something, because she actually directly, people love a direct response or accusation, right?

Speaker 1:
[45:00] I'm very hot and cold when it comes to Alex Cooper, but when I like her, I like her. When I don't, I think she's quite annoying. I think that video was good. I think it did make her come out on top. And I think that the original thing that started this version of the feud or this stage of the feud, which was that stupid repost of Alex Earle's where a woman is calling Alex Cooper an ambulance chaser, was dumb as hell. Alex Cooper isn't an ambulance chaser. She's a talk show host. That's what talk show hosts have been doing since talk show hosts started.

Speaker 2:
[45:27] Like, didn't you, did anyone else watch the Barbara Walters documentary? It was incredible.

Speaker 1:
[45:31] Right, it's Barbara Walters. It's Oprah.

Speaker 2:
[45:33] But it's kind of like how Barbara Walters was just like, is there a tragedy happening? Gimme, gimme, gimme, like, you know, just really, like, not sensitive, you know, knowing exactly what she needed to get out of people, essentially. It's just like, she's just the new version of that.

Speaker 1:
[45:51] Yeah. And I don't think it's, like, manipulative to have famous women who are going through stuff on your podcast, if anything, because Alex Cooper's podcast is kind of a softball interview space. It's not like she's going to make people miserable or have them, you know, suffer through, like, a really serious line of questioning. That show is pretty generous to its guests. And those interviews almost always go well for the subjects.

Speaker 2:
[46:18] The person who is being interviewed, right? Or give them attention so they can continue on their money-making journey or whatever.

Speaker 1:
[46:26] I hate just, like, picking a side here and having to say that I'm in support of Alex Cooper here, but I am. I have to speak my truth.

Speaker 2:
[46:33] You support the journalist.

Speaker 1:
[46:34] I do. Lori Loughlin is unrecognizable with draft. No, that's not the headline I like. The headline I like is the Daily Mails. Lori Loughlin 61 sparks wig rumors with revenge makeover as her hairstylist responds. I've never heard of someone sparking wig rumors.

Speaker 2:
[46:51] She sparks wig rumors is so fucking funny. That's so funny.

Speaker 1:
[46:55] She sparked wig rumors with the revenge makeover as her hairstylist responds. And the hairstylist response is after she was spotted at this event, I think, like, LACMA or something, it was something in Los Angeles, Olivia Jade went as well. So OJ was there with her mother. Lori Loughlin showing off her bob with bangs. And people are like, wow, what a wig. Then the hairstylist was in the comments and said, it's not a wig. I wouldn't know. He wrote, chop, chop for Lori yesterday.

Speaker 2:
[47:23] Us Weekly's headline is Lori Loughlin's hairstylist slams wig rumors after Full House alum's major hair transformation. She looks amazing.

Speaker 1:
[47:31] She does.

Speaker 2:
[47:32] Is she known for having long hair? I don't really know. Is this really that big of a d- It's like, oh my God, she cut her traditionally long locks.

Speaker 1:
[47:40] I think it's not that she's known for long hair. She's just not known for having a bob. We do like when someone shows up with a bob. When someone gets a bob, we're obsessed.

Speaker 2:
[47:50] They're calling it a revenge bob because she recently got a divorce or announced divorcing her husband.

Speaker 1:
[47:54] From Massimo.

Speaker 2:
[47:55] Anything with OJ is of interest to me.

Speaker 1:
[47:59] They look great. Wow.

Speaker 4:
[48:01] They look great.

Speaker 2:
[48:02] But you know what I love about them? They look like mother and daughter.

Speaker 1:
[48:05] That's what you love about them?

Speaker 2:
[48:07] Well, it's not too crazy. We're not going like Kardashian style where it's like which ones which. It's like, no.

Speaker 1:
[48:15] I see what you mean. They don't look the same. Yeah. Because you're saying that when you look at Kris Jenner and Kim Kardashian, you think they look like sisters in a way that's very eerie and unsettled.

Speaker 2:
[48:25] It's uncanny valley. I'm feeling a shiver down my spine versus, look at these two beautiful women.

Speaker 1:
[48:32] These look like two women who share jeans and are maybe 25 or 30 years apart in age.

Speaker 2:
[48:36] Totally.

Speaker 1:
[48:37] I see what you're saying now. It's to be well to realize what you were saying.

Speaker 2:
[48:40] Yes, yes. Okay, I use my-

Speaker 1:
[48:43] I love Lori Loughlin so much.

Speaker 6:
[48:45] And her daughter can't get enough. Posting a photo of the two from the event, Olivia writes on her April 17th Instagram stories, how does my mother look like this? The 61-year-old turns heads in a silver sequined gown with a thigh high slit, paired with matching heels and glowing glam. The sweet moment comes as Lori, who also shares daughter Bella with ex Massimo Giannulli, has been leaning on her daughter's first support ever since she and Massimo announced in October that they were separating.

Speaker 12:
[49:16] I want to be famous.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[50:47] What are you making?

Speaker 1:
[50:47] Smoothies. Smoothies. You know what I made recently in my blender? Actually, Liz, just last night, a great Ali Slagle recipe that I make a lot. It's like a lemon ricotta pasta thing where you blend the ricotta with some pasta water and lemon and it's a perfect little sauce. So quick, right in my Vitamix.

Speaker 2:
[51:01] Okay, yum.

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Speaker 2:
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[51:18] What have you been using from Wayfair lately?

Speaker 2:
[51:21] Well, my shoe storage, obviously, is kind of crucial. It's kind of like crucial to my life is the shoe storage because I keep buying new shoes and thank God I have storage for them. It goes right up on the wall and it stands in my way and I barely see it and it's kind of iconic.

Speaker 1:
[51:34] What I like about it is that it's sort of magic. I can't even tell that there are shoes in there. It just looks like a beautiful piece of decor.

Speaker 2:
[51:39] It's metal. It has little holes in it so the smells get out.

Speaker 6:
[51:43] Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 10:
[51:44] It's perfectly designed.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 12:
[53:25] I want to be famous.

Speaker 1:
[53:27] Let's move on to this Instagram story that I was kind of shook by and was like, wow, that's a good statement. And that is something that I think could actually affect change in real life. Tyler the Creator went on his Instagram and posted a screenshot of security camera footage of him in a bookstore. This is interesting.

Speaker 2:
[53:49] It is. This is interesting. Because this really is next level scary surveillance bullshit that fans are reaching for. That I didn't, I haven't seen this before. Have you seen this before? I mean, unless it's a part of a court case or something.

Speaker 1:
[54:06] I've seen people share this type of footage before, but I've never seen the celebrity who is in the footage respond in this type of way, where he like was like, you can't do this.

Speaker 2:
[54:19] I'm thinking of Solange in the elevator. I'm thinking of like that stuff where there's some sort of kind of like action to it that precipitated the sharing of it. Or like, this is just kind of random. This is just like day in the life, right? But that's what to me is so creepy about it, where it's not like, there isn't something that happened that we're trying to figure out what happened that feels a little bit more journalism. This feels more like scary, where it's just like, we just have fucking surveillance footage that anyone's allowed to just kind of like take and share on the internet.

Speaker 1:
[54:50] Right, this is Tyler, the Creator, standing up against the surveillance state. So Tyler, the Creator, goes on Instagram. He shares a screenshot of him just browsing a bookstore, looking at the spines of a book, saying, hmm, what am I gonna read today?

Speaker 2:
[55:02] Just like normal, nothing's happening. Nothing is being called out, you know?

Speaker 1:
[55:08] No, he's just looking. And I guess someone who worked at the bookstore posted that online, it went viral. Oh, Tyler, the Creator at a bookstore. He reposted the image and said, I'm gonna read the whole thing because it's good and it's long.

Speaker 2:
[55:19] Yeah, read it.

Speaker 1:
[55:20] So annoying. Just existing living, mind your business, and the next thing you know, it's either security camera footage of you, just existing, uploaded so folks can either prove they saw you or get some engagement they crave. I understand the excitement, but the behavior is going to morph into everyone having footage or anything involving them uploaded for content. Doctor's office, grocery store, with the way ring cameras and other home things are, soon brushing your teeth or taking a piss is going to become content without you knowing. Quote, LOL, quote, why did he look at the sink like that? Quote, who gets blood work in a hat like that? Type of comments will flood rather than folks really understanding how weird it is. It sucks too, because I congratulated this girl in her amazing bookstore, keeping physical media alive, even signed something out of pure appreciation for what she was doing. I want to be able to brush this off, but I'm going to keep being vocal about it. Y'all know how I feel with the relationship people think they have with musicians, actors, et cetera, just because they like some songs or a movie or clothing, et cetera. Not over here. Space should be respected no matter how many lyrics you know. Love. I think this is representative of a larger issue happening with celebrities, and I think we're going to start seeing more of this, because it is getting creepier by the day.

Speaker 2:
[56:23] What do you mean larger issue, just like surveillance footage or whatever?

Speaker 1:
[56:26] Surveillance footage, like this type of stuff. And I think he's like, I've dealt with this for some time now, and I'm actually sick of it. Sort of like Alex Cooper finally saying, I've dealt with this for some time now, and I'm actually sick of it, and I need to say something.

Speaker 2:
[56:39] Mm, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[56:41] And I think it's gentle enough and thoughtful enough that people may actually think twice before doing this again, especially because if it makes the celebrity mad at you, then that really sucks. If the celebrity calls you out, that's got to be humiliating and mortifying.

Speaker 2:
[56:57] Well, it's crazy too, because he made a point to say, this is the kind of store it was. It was a cool store. It was a cool owner. It was cool. I complimented her. I said, I love, I signed something for her. If she had said to him, can I put on my social media that you were in the store, that you liked the store? There's just a better way to go about it, where it's like, I assume she posted this or she gave this out to post to promote the store.

Speaker 1:
[57:21] That's what he's sort of implying here. The person that he spoke to, who he thought was really nice, is the one who released the image. That's what it seems like to me.

Speaker 2:
[57:32] Is that what we're saying?

Speaker 1:
[57:32] Unless it's just another employee, but that's what it sounds like he's saying.

Speaker 2:
[57:35] It sounds like that's where it came from.

Speaker 1:
[57:37] He's like, I was nice to you and I was generous to you, and then you did this to me in return.

Speaker 2:
[57:41] That's what's crazy too, where it's like, I feel like he went out of his way to do stuff that if she had just said, hey, I'd love to promote the store. If you like my store, can you post about it? Or can I post a photo with you of the store? He probably would have said, yeah. I can't imagine. He's not that famous too, whatever. So that's what's maybe most shocking to him, where he's like, this was a cool vibe and it still was a nasty thing to do, which was post this boring footage of me in your store.

Speaker 1:
[58:10] Moving on, Tmz has opened up operations in DC., which what took them so long? They should have done this years and years and years ago.

Speaker 2:
[58:20] I love that it was government shutdown. They were like, okay, government shutdown and everyone's obsessed with finding politicians not doing their jobs. We're going to start Tmz Dc, which just means we're going to send three staffers to go to DC and start harassing politicians. It's just three guys in DC being like, here we go.

Speaker 1:
[58:40] Charlie Cotton. One of them's name is Charlie Cotton.

Speaker 2:
[58:43] Charlie Cotton, Jacob Wasserman and Jackson Buhage are in DC and they're doing the thing that Tmz does everywhere else, but they're doing it in DC., which is like standing outside of buildings and talking to people when they leave.

Speaker 1:
[58:55] So we're in DC on the hunt for good stories. We're also going to explore the intersection between pop culture and politics. That's me, me writing up the paper. I love when a new media organization is exploring the intersection of something. Don't you love that? Aren't you like, oh, activated when they're exploring the intersection?

Speaker 2:
[59:11] Tmz, for all the things that they do bad, I do like the gumshoe-ness of this, the boots on the ground. We just sent three divas to DC and we're going to see what they do.

Speaker 1:
[59:24] I think DC could use more of this energy where it's like, I kind of agree. We're going to be really annoying to the politicians instead of just let them walk home.

Speaker 2:
[59:32] I kind of agree. And be rude to them in the Tmz way. We're being rude to them and more like we're protesting and that's so great and we should definitely do that. It is our right. But what if we were annoying to them in ways like this? What if we treated them like celebrities a little bit and held their feet to the fire in this annoying celebrity way?

Speaker 1:
[59:52] Like if I saw What's His Name Again, Charlie Cotton, sort of a harass Tyler the Creator at LAX and be like, Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, what's up man? Hey, hey, hey, why don't you tell us about your experience at the bookstore on camera? I'd be like, don't do that, that's annoying. But that energy should be brought to politicians. I think that's cool. I agree.

Speaker 12:
[60:10] It was only a matter of time before this happened. Take a look.

Speaker 15:
[60:14] We have officially launched Tmz DC. We have boots in the ground in our nation's capital. We have three people there who are on the Tmz staff. They are now living in Washington, DC. They are, just as the business card shows, they are Jackson, Jacob and Charlie.

Speaker 10:
[60:38] How are you, man? I'm from Tmz. Could I just ask you about the bubble one, sir?

Speaker 16:
[60:45] Could I just ask you quickly about the bubble one?

Speaker 12:
[60:49] Who was that? That's the person from Tmz.

Speaker 16:
[60:51] I know, but who was Lindsey Graham?

Speaker 12:
[60:52] Oh, that was Lindsey. So Tmz was tracking down Lindsey Graham like they do celebrities. Is this the right approach to media coverage of politics right now? Because I think better handled by some of the Real Housewives who were in DC recently for our HIV fundraising event. And they said there's more drama in politics than there is on the Bravo show. Right now, that's true.

Speaker 16:
[61:20] I mean, it's honestly true. I welcome it personally. Like, I think that until members of Congress hold themselves to a higher standard, they're not entitled.

Speaker 2:
[61:27] Let's head to relationships. Gay guy, kid, prom, colon, Matt Bomer's son and Billy Lord's sister.

Speaker 1:
[61:34] I wrote that.

Speaker 2:
[61:35] Gay guy, kid, prom.

Speaker 1:
[61:37] Did you know that gay guys can have straight children? Because I forget that sometimes.

Speaker 2:
[61:42] You forget that they can and that they do.

Speaker 1:
[61:45] So Matt Bomer's gay guy son went to prom with Billy Lord and Bruce Bozzi's gay guy daughter.

Speaker 2:
[61:54] Well, Billy Lord is the sister of this girl.

Speaker 1:
[61:57] Billy Lord is the child of Carrie Fisher and Brian Lord. After Brian Lord left Carrie Fisher, he got with Bruce Bozzi. Okay? So Bruce Bozzi and Brian Lord are together and their daughter is Ava Lord. Ava Lord is now dating the child of Matt Bomer and his husband whose name is Simon.

Speaker 2:
[62:23] Bozzi and Lord legally adopted Bozzi's daughter Ava.

Speaker 1:
[62:27] Right, so Ava was Bruce's daughter first. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[62:30] Brian Lord was the head of CAA. I'm not sure he is anymore, but at one point he was. Bruce Bozzi owns a bunch of restaurants. He's a restaurateur and Billy is older than Ava. So Ava, Billy is, you know, has a kid, I think has a husband, acts Carrie Fisher's daughter.

Speaker 1:
[62:49] Billy's in her 30s.

Speaker 2:
[62:50] Carrie Fisher's only daughter.

Speaker 1:
[62:52] And looks just like Carrie Fisher, yes?

Speaker 2:
[62:53] Yes, and this is Ava, her sister. She's now going to prom with Matt Bomer's son. Who's Matt Bomer's partner, husband?

Speaker 1:
[63:04] Matt Bomer's husband is-

Speaker 2:
[63:06] Simon Halls.

Speaker 1:
[63:09] He's in the business. He's like an agent or he's a publicist. He's a publicist. He's a publicist.

Speaker 2:
[63:13] And they have three kids.

Speaker 1:
[63:15] And they got married very early, marriage equality. They've been married for like 15 years.

Speaker 2:
[63:21] Matt Bomer's big reveal. I've been married to my husband for three years.

Speaker 4:
[63:25] This was in-

Speaker 1:
[63:26] 2014. Matt Bomer's other big reveal came out this week, which was that he recorded songs with Diane Warren for a Magic Mike XXL tie-in EP. It never got released.

Speaker 2:
[63:35] I need it yesterday. Literally, I need it yesterday. Where is it? Release it. Release the tracks.

Speaker 1:
[63:40] This is from Deadline.

Speaker 2:
[63:42] Diane?

Speaker 1:
[63:43] In some vault somewhere, there are a couple of unreleased rough tracks featuring two-time Emmy nominated actor, Matt Bomer and 17-time Oscar nominated songwriter, Diane Warren.

Speaker 2:
[63:52] I have access to Diane's phone number and I will use it.

Speaker 1:
[63:56] Quote, we recorded a couple of songs for the soundtrack, just kind of on a lark, although one of them was recorded by Ludwig Gorinsson, who just won his third Oscar, because he was working with Donald Glover, who was also on Magic Mike XXL. I guess they did really well on Spotify, which is not something I planned for. Then the folks at Tower Records were like, would you ever want to record an album? And they were like, do you write music? And I was like, I've written music since I was a kid. So we worked on this stuff with Diane Warren. It'll never see the light of day, probably. But if you want it to see the light of day, text Lindsey.

Speaker 2:
[64:23] I, well, text, I got to text her. Diane, send me the demo.

Speaker 1:
[64:28] She'll send it. What does she care?

Speaker 2:
[64:31] Listen, the other thing that people were talking about while I was gone, well, after I came back, was that Cameron Winter of Geese fame, love his ass, was spotted getting coffee in Williamsburg with none other than Olivia Rodrigo. Here's the problem. She has a new album out, she has a new song out. She's promoting, right? He is the hot guy of the moment. He is the new new. So this would be a very spiritually smart fake relationship. But people on Twitter spotted them like doing cute stuff, like little kiss.

Speaker 1:
[65:15] While you were away, you also missed the Geese discourse about them being...

Speaker 2:
[65:20] Oh, I read it. You think I didn't read that? Yeah, that headline was so not it. You have to actually read it. They gave it a headline that was very misleading, sorry, about the company that supposedly built the hype for them.

Speaker 1:
[65:35] That sort of disseminates all of the clips, the clip farmers.

Speaker 2:
[65:40] I love him. I think he fucking rocks. So would this be a cute pair? I mean, it would make a lot of people so mad, which is fun, and they could make some beautiful music together. But I am also like, it's too good to be true.

Speaker 1:
[65:54] Do you like the new Olivia Rodrigo song? I finally listened. I like it.

Speaker 2:
[65:57] I don't. I don't like it. Moving on.

Speaker 1:
[65:59] Sad news. Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe split.

Speaker 2:
[66:03] This was big. This reverberated. Multiple people asked me about this and I was like, sad, but they were all lesbians.

Speaker 1:
[66:10] There's nothing like a lesbian breakup. It's so depressing.

Speaker 2:
[66:13] To shock the world.

Speaker 1:
[66:15] Lesbian breakups are so verbose. Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[66:19] But these two really like, wait, so like, it's such a big deal that these two broke up that Glenn and Doyle had to weigh in.

Speaker 1:
[66:28] Glenn and Doyle's little lesbian red alarm phone went off and she was like, I got a comment. I got a comment.

Speaker 2:
[66:33] Why is Glenn and Doyle weighing? Like, I'm sorry, like why?

Speaker 1:
[66:36] Well, let me just read the Megan and Sue joint post because it was a joint post, a Sarah font, white on black. There really is no smooth or easy way to share this news. After a lot of thought, we've made the decision to separate as a couple. This hasn't been an easy decision, but it's one we made together with so much love, respect and care for each other. We've shared a whole life over the last decade through big moments and in quiet ones and that is something we'll always carry with us. We are so grateful to this incredible community that held us up. She means fags. Welcome to sin and supported us exactly as we are. So many of you have reminded us again and again why loving out loud matters. Getting to create a touch more of the podcast and build a network around it has been tremendous. Oh, my relationship is so fulfilling. We made a podcast together. The conversations, the laughter, the connection, it means more than we can put into words. While this chapter of doing the podcast together is ending, what we've built isn't. Thank you for being with us through all of it. It means the world to us. With so much love, Megan and Sue, and then Glenn and Doyle said, got out her keyboard and went, I got something to say. She said, no two people I trust more to have made the exact right, honest, brave, hard decision in the clutch. I was inspired to follow you down your shared path, and I know I'll be inspired by your individual ones. We live and tell the truth, and then when the truth changes, we live and tell the new truth. God, I hate the way people talk. Congratulations to hearing each of you for honoring yourselves. I'm sorry. Congratulations to each of you for honoring yourselves. So much love and respect. Gee. Oh.

Speaker 2:
[68:16] We hear the truth and then the truth, truths. What did she say?

Speaker 1:
[68:20] We live and tell the truth, and then when the truth changes, we live and tell the new truth. It's like woo woo breakup speak.

Speaker 2:
[68:29] It's crazy because that is what Glenn and Doyle does.

Speaker 1:
[68:32] Yeah. She speaks like this.

Speaker 2:
[68:34] We tell the truth and then the truth changes and we tell the new truth. It's like, okay. You could also call that a lie and then the truth.

Speaker 4:
[68:44] But no, sure.

Speaker 2:
[68:45] You tell what the truth means to you.

Speaker 1:
[68:46] The truth changes.

Speaker 2:
[68:47] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[68:48] Just referring to a relationship as truth is just way too podcast speak.

Speaker 2:
[68:53] I mean, people really loved this couple. Take Glennon back out of this. Glennon back away from the keyboard. Oh, you see who's first comment below? Do you see who's first comment?

Speaker 1:
[69:02] Abby Wambach. Oh yeah, she's there too.

Speaker 2:
[69:05] I'm here. Who's next, Brandi Carlile? The Indigo girls are waiting in the wings.

Speaker 1:
[69:16] Glennon Doyle has a pillow on the Indigo girls and is just sitting on them. She's like, me first. I am the number one lesbian right now.

Speaker 2:
[69:24] Truly. Well, now that these two have broken up, it's time for someone else to ascend. They're all kind of like, nice.

Speaker 1:
[69:34] You know what we need next? Megan, Sue, if you get a text from Elizabeth Gilbert, ignore it. Ignore it.

Speaker 2:
[69:42] Sue Bird is about to get the worst text of her life. For real.

Speaker 1:
[69:48] Elizabeth is going to be like, you know, if you need somewhere to stay, I've got a church in New Jersey that's vacant.

Speaker 2:
[69:55] We're sad. They got the rip graphic. I just sent it to you.

Speaker 1:
[69:58] Oh, they got a rip graphic? That's so sad.

Speaker 2:
[70:01] They ripped the hell out of them.

Speaker 1:
[70:03] I hate seeing a rip go through lesbians. That really makes me sad.

Speaker 2:
[70:06] I know. It's really sad to see a rip going through lesbians.

Speaker 1:
[70:10] Tina Campbell and Glendon Campbell have split after 20 plus years of marriage. You know the group Merry Merry? I realized the only reason I knew who Merry Merry was is because there's a Merry Merry song on one of the many, many, many Prince of Egypt soundtracks that I had. Merry Merry. There's a Merry Merry song on one of the many Prince of Egypt soundtracks that I had in the 90s.

Speaker 2:
[70:35] How did you have so many?

Speaker 1:
[70:37] Because they released a billion print. Do you remember this part of the Prince of Egypt rollout?

Speaker 2:
[70:42] No, I only remember one, the one.

Speaker 1:
[70:46] I had three Prince of Egypt soundtracks in like 1988.

Speaker 4:
[70:49] We prayed that one.

Speaker 2:
[70:50] I know that one.

Speaker 1:
[70:51] Yes, so that's the main song with Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey singing the pop version. So that song is in the movie and it is on the Prince of Egypt soundtrack. Okay?

Speaker 4:
[71:05] We know who and you could hear.

Speaker 1:
[71:08] When the Prince of Egypt came out. I'm just gonna keep going. What they also did when the Prince of Egypt came out was they released a Nashville inspired album.

Speaker 2:
[71:17] Oh, I'm standing.

Speaker 4:
[71:18] What?

Speaker 1:
[71:18] And an inspirational inspired album. I have both of them.

Speaker 2:
[71:22] Wait, where's the Nashville one?

Speaker 1:
[71:23] The Nashville was called like, there was one called like Prince of Egypt Nashville. It had, I remember my favorite song of it was by Jessica Andrews. It was like country music inspired by-

Speaker 4:
[71:32] How did I miss this?

Speaker 1:
[71:33] Prince of Egypt. And then there was the inspirational gospel.

Speaker 2:
[71:37] I'm sorry, I'm sorry. A song called I Can't Be a Slave performed by Toby Keith.

Speaker 1:
[71:43] Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:
[71:44] Gats? Crazy.

Speaker 1:
[72:17] It was like, I don't even know that all the music was written for the album. I think some of them were just, they just pulled off vaguely inspirational country songs of the time, and then put it on like a mixtape, but they did it for country, and they did it for gospel.

Speaker 2:
[72:32] International.

Speaker 1:
[72:33] Or just like more specifically religious music, which was the inspiration version.

Speaker 2:
[72:38] It was called Prince of Egypt, Inspirational.

Speaker 1:
[72:40] Yes, yes. Because the reason I know who Mary Mary is is because they had a song on the Prince of Egypt Inspirational Album called, like, Let Go, Let God. But they're a gospel group. They got famous in the early 2000s. Two sisters, neither of whom were named Mary. Their names are Erica and Trisina. They both married guys with the same last name. They both married different Campbells, but the Campbells that they married are not related. One of them married Warren Campbell, one of them married Teddy Campbell, and the Mary Mary member, Tina, who married Glendon Campbell just filed for divorce.

Speaker 4:
[73:36] Okay, we got there.

Speaker 2:
[73:38] We got there. We got there.

Speaker 1:
[73:40] And if you want to listen to Mary Mary music, you can either listen to Mary Mary albums or Prince of Egypt, colon, inspirational.

Speaker 2:
[73:47] Which I'm literally running to listen to Prince of Egypt country though first. I need to hear that, sorry.

Speaker 1:
[73:52] And remember that was like back in the day, like people bought albums. I was looking them up afterwards. Both of those albums, I mean, I know the original soundtrack sold more, but the inspirational album and the Nashville album both sold over a half a million copies.

Speaker 2:
[74:05] I would listen to 45 different versions of that song that I was singing earlier.

Speaker 4:
[74:10] And now I'm standing here, my heart's so full, I can't explain.

Speaker 1:
[74:17] Kelsey Bellarini and Craig Conover are not dating, TMZ has learned, despite an Instagram fueled rumor claiming with, quote, good authority, the two are an item.

Speaker 2:
[74:24] I mean, it's the most believable thing that those two would date. So everyone believed it because it's a likely thing. And it would surprise me if even the idea of them dating somehow gets back to them and they do date.

Speaker 1:
[74:35] So he's Southern Charm Guy, she's country girly, who's always on again, off again with Chase Stokes. But they're apparently off at the moment.

Speaker 2:
[74:42] Who dated Madeline Klein? Who dated Maddie Klein?

Speaker 1:
[74:44] Who dated Maddie Klein?

Speaker 4:
[74:45] Seeking faith and seeking words.

Speaker 2:
[74:51] We need God. I think we need God.

Speaker 4:
[74:56] Thoughts?

Speaker 1:
[74:57] I agree.

Speaker 11:
[75:23] What's Rita Ora up to?

Speaker 12:
[75:26] Who is this woman?

Speaker 1:
[75:39] Rita has a new song, Cause for Celebration. My favorite Rita news is when there's a new song, and I like it. It sounds like she linked up with another European DJ.

Speaker 2:
[75:49] I do like the guy's name. It's like Nerf or something. It's Gerd, what is it? Serb, Serb. I thought it was like, I thought it was like.

Speaker 1:
[75:59] It's Serb. He's Brazilian. So he's not European. He's Brazilian. He's from Sao Paulo. I like that. The song is, whatever you are imagining, that is what the song is.

Speaker 2:
[76:09] No, when I listened to it, I was like, okay, nothing's happening here, but it's exactly what I imagined. We'll play it. I kind of wish it was less harmless, but like, sure.

Speaker 1:
[76:50] You wish she would take more of a risk, more of a creative risk?

Speaker 2:
[76:52] Yeah, it's not a big swing for her at this point to release like a random club track that is like gonna be played in a store or like in the background of something, you know?

Speaker 1:
[76:59] In Ibiza or something. I don't really hear a lot of these random club tracks in my daily life, but I'm sure there are spaces where they are ubiquitous, and I'm happy for those spaces. Thank you for listening to another episode of Who Weekly. Call in at 619 who then to leave questions, comments and concerns for our Friday show, Who's There. Support us on patreon.com/whoweekly for bonus episodes, a Discord server, commentary tracks and more. You can also get the audio only, audio only on Apple podcasts. Just click subscribe within the app. Thank you to Katie and Eric of the Who's for providing our read-a-themes on Tuesdays. Thank you to Timmy, our research and editorial assistant for researching and editorializing and sending us dispatches from Coachella. We'll see you on Friday. Bye.