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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Is there a special lady in your life who has proven to be a little difficult to shop for? Yep, this happens every Mother's Day. It could be your mom, wife, sister, aunt, grandma, mother-in-law, all the amazing women in your life who have helped you become the person you are today. Maybe they have so many interests, it's hard to choose. Maybe they're a little picky, or maybe they already have everything. If this sounds familiar, let Macy's help with your Mother's Day debacle. They have so many crowd-pleasing brands, perhaps Macy's gift card would let them choose what they really want. Or perhaps you use the Macy's gift guide to help narrow things down. Whatever type of mom you're shopping for, Macy's has you covered. They have all the brands she loves, so you're not just guessing, like Valentino, YSL, La Mer, Burberry, Prada, Olaplex, Miu Miu, Shiseido, Clarence, and more. Macy's has classic pieces she could wear every day, diamond tennis bracelets from Badly Mishka, Effie Diamond Rings, and Macy's diamond pendant necklaces. Plus, Macy's has lovely pieces to complement their assortment from brands like McKenzie Childs, Michael Aram, and La Crusay. So, check out Macy's online gift guide for more ideas. Go to macys.com or shop in store.

Speaker 2:
[01:03] I sold my car in Carvana last night.

Speaker 3:
[01:04] Well, that's cool. No, you don't understand. It went perfectly. Real offer, down to the penny.

Speaker 4:
[01:09] They're picking it up tomorrow.

Speaker 3:
[01:10] Nothing went wrong.

Speaker 4:
[01:11] So, what's the problem?

Speaker 1:
[01:13] That is the problem.

Speaker 3:
[01:14] Nothing in my life goes as smoothly. I'm waiting for the catch.

Speaker 2:
[01:16] Maybe there's no catch.

Speaker 3:
[01:17] That's exactly what a catch would want me to think.

Speaker 2:
[01:20] Wow, you need to relax.

Speaker 4:
[01:22] I need a knock on wood.

Speaker 2:
[01:22] Do we have wood?

Speaker 3:
[01:23] Is this table wood?

Speaker 4:
[01:24] I think it's laminate.

Speaker 3:
[01:25] Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2:
[01:26] That's close enough.

Speaker 4:
[01:27] Car selling without a catch. Sell your car today on Caravana. Pick up these may apply.

Speaker 5:
[01:33] Well, what is this?

Speaker 2:
[01:35] Welcome to the Lady Gang.

Speaker 5:
[01:36] That's amazing.

Speaker 1:
[01:37] Say that again.

Speaker 2:
[01:38] The Lady Gang.

Speaker 4:
[01:39] Things are about to change around here.

Speaker 2:
[01:42] Each week, we catch up with Hollywood's hottest girl posse, Keltie Knight, Becca Tobin and Jack Vanek.

Speaker 1:
[01:50] Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the Lady Gang. I'm Becca Tobin here with Jack Vanek and Keltie Knight.

Speaker 3:
[01:55] Hello.

Speaker 1:
[01:56] Hi, ladies.

Speaker 4:
[01:57] Good morning. Jacqueline, are you wearing a floral sweatsuit?

Speaker 3:
[02:01] I am. Little matching pant. What? Abercrombie. They have the best sweats ever.

Speaker 1:
[02:09] You do love some Abercrombie sweats.

Speaker 3:
[02:12] It's so funny, like getting older, I'm like, I shop at all the same stores I did in high school. Abercrombie, Hollister, PacSun, Urban.

Speaker 4:
[02:21] You're not shopping at Urban Outfitters. When I go into Urban Outfitters, the material feels like it's going to fall apart once it hits water. And I can't. And I was like, I can't believe how much money I spent at Urban Outfitters back in the day.

Speaker 3:
[02:33] Well, I don't actually go shopping there in person, but like every once in a while, they have a good... It's all lounge clothes, but I don't know where else to shop for lounge clothes that aren't... Aerie has the best lounge clothes in the world.

Speaker 1:
[02:45] Wow. Get her a sponsorship. Come on.

Speaker 3:
[02:48] I wish. I spent so much money there. And pajamas?

Speaker 1:
[02:51] I'm like kind of phasing the sweats out of my life or trying.

Speaker 3:
[02:55] What are you wearing instead?

Speaker 1:
[02:57] I mean, as I wear, I'm wearing a hoodie right now. But I haven't bought any new sweats as tempted as I have been, because I think every time I go to buy them, that it's going to be like, oh, this is going to be great for the airport. I'm going to look airport chic. But then it ends up looking so schlubby. And it's because you can wear it one time and then before you wash it, but then you wash it and then it looks like pajamas.

Speaker 4:
[03:23] I had a real mental breakdown about leggings, which I'm also wearing leggings right now as my lower half. But I was in the airport. This really happened. I'm in the airport and I'm working away, and I look up and I see like my Doppelganger and it's everything.

Speaker 3:
[03:43] Doppel or Choppel?

Speaker 4:
[03:45] It was my Doppel. Thank you so much. My Doppelganger of like everything I had. She had the New Balance sneakers. She had the black legging. She had the oversized sweatshirt with the oversized jean jacket on top. Like she was me, you know? And I looked at her, and I was like, God, what an old millennial trying to be cool looks like. Like, it's this girl. And then I looked down, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm wearing the same thing. And then I realized, like, are leggings chuggy? Like, I think they are because nobody's wearing a tight pant anymore, but I love to travel in a legging. And so then on the way back from Mexico, I wore a jean. Like, who am I? I felt fine. I was wearing a big barrel jean. Very comfortable. Nice to have a pocket. I'm not going to lie, because you could put all your snacks in your pockets as you're getting on the plane. But I don't know what to wear.

Speaker 1:
[04:44] I think that if you're going from LA to Cancun or Cabo, wherever you're going, like a five-second flight, jeans are absolutely fine. You know, if you're flying in the middle of the day and it's an under three-hour flight, I think that it is criminal to be in pajamas or anything that resembles pajamas.

Speaker 3:
[05:02] Not me.

Speaker 1:
[05:06] Well, that's just, I feel like, guys, we can do it. We can put on a hard pant.

Speaker 3:
[05:12] No, but here's half the reason why. Well, no, just a part of the reason why I fly in sweats is because I want a pair of sweats when I'm traveling.

Speaker 1:
[05:19] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[05:19] And they're so bulky that I don't want to pack them. So I'm wearing the most bulky thing. So I have double duty.

Speaker 1:
[05:26] But here's my question.

Speaker 4:
[05:28] Devil's advocate, boop.

Speaker 1:
[05:30] No, this is a question that I have because I have the same thing going through my head. But then I travel in those sweats, I get to my destination, and I don't want to put them on again unless they're washed.

Speaker 3:
[05:40] I only wear them if I'm going to get coffee in the morning before I shower. I wear them when I am dirty.

Speaker 1:
[05:47] You have a different routine where this actually does work for you.

Speaker 3:
[05:51] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[05:52] I will say I found a secret. So you remember space bags? Do you remember the infomercial that people were like, the space bag and it was like a giant ziplock that had a hole in it and you rolled it up and you release the air and then it stuck? Well, space bags have got a facelift. Because I have been looking for an answer for Chris Knight because his clothes are so big and he travels and he's wanting to just have a carry on. I'm like, you can't fit this man. Like a pant and one pair of shoes. His shoe is a 13, it takes up the whole side. So I found on Amazon these great, like they look like a packing cube and it has, it's black. It has a little opening on it and it comes with a little air sucker filter. Have you seen these? Oh, this is not new information. Jack is not impressed.

Speaker 1:
[06:42] Here's what happens when I...

Speaker 3:
[06:46] You just can't use them on checked bags because then your bag is going to weigh a hundred pounds.

Speaker 1:
[06:51] Right.

Speaker 3:
[06:52] Because then you can fit so much more shit.

Speaker 4:
[06:54] But if you're flying in business class, they'll give you up to 70 pounds.

Speaker 1:
[06:58] But here, those space bags I think are good in theory. But then when I go and like store stuff in my house, I have found that I can fit the same amount of things with and without the space bag. Because the space bag makes clothes in this like hard... It becomes a book, like a coffee table book. Whereas when it's just clothes, it's like you can smush them around and maneuver them and get them in little nooks and crannies. So I don't know if this is so much a space save. No, I don't like it.

Speaker 3:
[07:29] And then it makes all of your clothes so wrinkled.

Speaker 1:
[07:32] So wrinkled.

Speaker 4:
[07:33] Okay, well, listen.

Speaker 3:
[07:34] But I love that for you.

Speaker 4:
[07:35] But thank you so much. Chris Knight is happy with it. He was very thrilled.

Speaker 1:
[07:38] Oh, good. Good, good. All right, well, let's jump into... It's time for...

Speaker 2:
[07:45] Good Week.

Speaker 3:
[07:45] Yes, it is.

Speaker 2:
[07:46] Bad Week.

Speaker 5:
[07:47] Oh, no.

Speaker 1:
[07:49] I'll go first.

Speaker 3:
[07:50] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[07:51] So I get so much shit from my friends when we're on vacation or we're doing something fun and somebody stops to take a picture or wants to take pictures and all the pictures and all the pictures. And I've always said, I don't know what it is. I just feel like it stops the energy in the moment. Like we're having a great time and then we have to go and stand in a row on the beach. And it just kind of like it cuts off that fun vibe, right? And it just is annoying. And Tamsen was on our podcast recently. And I went to her Facebook or her Instagram page just to see like all the things she's doing. And she was talking to this guy and he's a Harvard professor. And he talks about why taking pictures on vacation, he's a happiness expert. Why you lower the meaning that you feel in the moment by 16% when you take a picture. And so the solution is you assign one person per day to take a photo and you send this to the people you're going on vacation with to see and to try it out. So there's one designated person, there's one moment for the picture, we're not passing around phones, blah, blah, blah. But I'll play his justification for this. And I feel like this was my instinct.

Speaker 2:
[09:15] The meaning that you feel on your vacation by 16% by taking pictures.

Speaker 5:
[09:19] Really?

Speaker 2:
[09:20] Yeah, totally.

Speaker 5:
[09:20] So you don't think you should take pictures on vacation?

Speaker 2:
[09:24] Yeah, I recommend that one person be assigned to take pictures on your vacation each day.

Speaker 5:
[09:28] One person do it?

Speaker 2:
[09:29] One person per day. And that nobody else gets to take any pictures the whole day.

Speaker 5:
[09:33] And it makes a big difference.

Speaker 2:
[09:34] Big difference. Yeah, because if you're looking through the screen to take a picture of the thing that's right in front of you so that somebody else can enjoy it, maybe you in two years, guess what you've done? You've turned your experience into a simulation of the experience.

Speaker 3:
[09:46] Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:
[09:46] You've turned a right brain experience of beauty into a left brain simulation of the beauty that you thought you once were experiencing, but not the lower.

Speaker 1:
[09:54] Right?

Speaker 3:
[09:55] Unfortunately, this is just how our whole world is.

Speaker 1:
[09:59] What do you mean? Our simulation?

Speaker 3:
[10:01] Yeah, I mean, well, yes, we are in a simulation. But just like with everything, it's like you can't experience anything with the beauty that it is, because everything is always going back to like.

Speaker 1:
[10:14] Capturing it?

Speaker 3:
[10:15] The Internet and other people's opinions.

Speaker 1:
[10:17] Right, but it doesn't have to, is what he's saying.

Speaker 3:
[10:20] Yeah, but then one person is still doing it. So that person doesn't get to live in the happiness?

Speaker 1:
[10:25] Well, I don't know. I'm not sure that's a great question. I'm sure there's just one person that can't help themselves. Because of all my friends, I know if I give this message to all of my friends, one of them is going to still demand that she take pictures, and then that's going to be, hey, you do the picture person.

Speaker 3:
[10:40] I think it's different. It's different if it's one person that takes pictures all of the time of everything and wants to take selfies of the whole entire day. I think you can take one picture in the day.

Speaker 4:
[10:51] I have a K-type solution I have just devised. Yeah, tell us. Okay. So it's like a meat in the middle, but here's the thing. I prefer, I like an outfit picture because I like to remember how much work went in to looking hot, because so much of it is fraggle rock, right? So like I think before we leave for the thing, Chris Knight takes a photo.

Speaker 3:
[11:11] That is smart.

Speaker 4:
[11:13] But then I agree. And I actually in my later stage of life, I'm not enjoying a everyone's, we're going to a dinner, everyone stand and like take the picture. Those pictures are not the ones that I'm really joyful about. The pictures I'm joyful are of like, the other day I was at, I'm so bougie now guys. I was at the Beverly Hills Hotel and my girlfriend was in town and her, she's a granddaughter now, which is crazy, from her husband's stepkids. And they saw the granddaughter for the first time in like a while and she was holding, and I just started snapping pictures. Cause this is not a moment for me. This is a moment for her. And then when I left, I sent her like the 20 photos and it wasn't her posing, like trying to get the baby to look over here. It was just her loving this child. And they were the cutest pictures. So I think if you have someone like that, it's like someone to take the pictures of it actually happening, then those end up being my favorite photos anyway. But I disagree with you, Becca, because when I was in Mexico doing water aerobics, if I wanted a video of it, I wanted a photo, it gave me more joy to look at Chris Knight's arms flopping around later.

Speaker 3:
[12:25] I will say as somebody with a really bad memory, I love taking photos, because I also, if I'm in the moment and I'm out doing stuff, I actually forget to do anything, which is good because I'm living in the moment and I'm drinking and I forgot. But I like the idea, and especially because I don't see my friends that often, at least capturing that because we don't get together, I have one friend that's been doing this that does the thing where it's like, okay, before we go out, let's take a picture. Just so we have one picture together because we have forgotten. I barely have pictures with my best friends. Yeah, it's just like get it done. Then I didn't take another picture or video the entire day.

Speaker 4:
[13:03] But isn't it crazy because there also is this thing? Sorry, Becca, we're not trying to tell you.

Speaker 1:
[13:07] I don't care.

Speaker 3:
[13:08] No, listen, it's preference.

Speaker 4:
[13:09] Becca's still not doing a picture.

Speaker 1:
[13:10] All I'm saying is this is supporting why. My friends thought I was just being a pain in the ass and an asshole.

Speaker 4:
[13:16] No, you were like, I want happiness.

Speaker 1:
[13:18] I'm like, no.

Speaker 3:
[13:19] I'm only 16 percent happier than you.

Speaker 1:
[13:21] Yeah, because I'll let you go on, Keltie, but here's a perfect example and this is why. We go to Cabo on a girls trip. We all go back to our rooms to get ready for the dinner. I'm so excited to get ready and then finally walk outside in this beautiful view and sit with my friends and have a cocktail before we go to dinner. But instead, there's a tripod setup and there's a TikTok dance being taught. So I'm sitting there.

Speaker 3:
[13:43] That's different.

Speaker 1:
[13:45] But this is the extreme version. But even if it's like, hey, let's get a group picture of all this. I'm like, no, I'd rather have 10 extra minutes to sit here and drink a margarita and talk to you guys and enjoy the view with my eyes.

Speaker 3:
[13:57] No, I like that.

Speaker 1:
[13:58] It breaks up my flow.

Speaker 4:
[14:00] Your flow is off.

Speaker 1:
[14:02] Yes, Keltie, sorry. Go on.

Speaker 4:
[14:04] The flow is off. A flow is off. I can't remember what I was.

Speaker 1:
[14:08] Oh, sorry.

Speaker 4:
[14:08] Did you ever read the thing where people like, so my very best friend in the world, Katie and I, we have like four pictures together our whole life. When we're together, it's exactly that. We're so zoned in that I forget to take pictures. I forget to take pictures when I'm hanging with my mom because I'm just visiting with my mom and then I'll go back. I literally don't have any pictures of me and my parents because I'd never take a picture with them because I'm just zoned in. But then I have a hundred pictures of us. I have more pictures of us than I do of it. Anyway, love you guys. Okay, what's your, that's a good week.

Speaker 1:
[14:44] That was my good week. So I've been in a big organization mode. I mean, my whole life is organizing things in drawers and whatever. I went to go on this very top shelf of my bathroom closet cabinet situation and I pulled down the pharmaceuticals. So anything, whatever, beta blockers, Xanax for travel, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Some extra Moxacillin in case the world ends.

Speaker 3:
[15:09] You never know. Keep all of your prescriptions people.

Speaker 1:
[15:12] So I had this one travel bottle that I always take with me when I travel because it has beta blockers in it because if I, this is more for a couple of years ago, it doesn't really happen anymore. But if I was on vacation or if I was traveling and I had to do an audition or put something or Zoom with a producer or whatever, that pops up within a day's notice. So I need beta blockers to a lot of the time make me less nervous. So I'm organizing this pill thing and there's some Advil, my beta blockers and one is cut in half because sometimes I have them. I was like, you know what, I need to just separate these and label them. So I started taking pictures of the pills to confirm what everything was. I have been taking what I thought was a beta blocker has been a Klonopin.

Speaker 3:
[16:06] Oh my God.

Speaker 4:
[16:08] What's a Klonopin?

Speaker 3:
[16:10] Like heavy duty. A Benzo. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[16:14] I don't even know how I have this in my possession. I have no idea. The only thing I can think of is that I did at one point ask a friend if she had extra beta blockers and I think she actually gave me her Klonopin.

Speaker 3:
[16:28] Klonopin gets you up.

Speaker 1:
[16:30] I was thinking back on it.

Speaker 4:
[16:31] Before the audition, you're getting high as a kite.

Speaker 1:
[16:34] Yeah. I remember.

Speaker 4:
[16:35] Well, now we know the problem.

Speaker 1:
[16:37] Now we know the problem. I remember the last time I did an audition, I had a producer session on Zoom and I took half. I remember I finished and I fell asleep for three hours. I thought it was because my adrenaline was so high and my nerves were so high and then I was just so tired.

Speaker 3:
[16:56] Oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[16:57] I drugged myself. My eyes had to have been soulless and dead in that audition. There's no other. I mean, it's so crazy.

Speaker 4:
[17:07] You're so tiny. Even a half-clonopin is one half too many clonopins.

Speaker 1:
[17:13] It was wild that it took me this long and it's also scary that I took it and didn't realize a major problem. Yeah, so there we go.

Speaker 3:
[17:24] That's a lesson learned. You must have had such a good nap.

Speaker 1:
[17:27] It was the hardest I've ever slept. It was so strange and now I'm dying of that. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[17:33] Oh my God.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 4:
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Speaker 1:
[20:42] Is there a special lady in your life who has proven to be a little difficult to shop for? Yep, this happens every Mother's Day. It could be your mom, wife, sister, aunt, grandma, mother-in-law, all the amazing women in your life who have helped you become the person you are today. Maybe they have so many interests, it's hard to choose. Maybe they're a little picky or maybe they already have everything. If this sounds familiar, let Macy's help with your Mother's Day debacle. They have so many crowd-pleasing brands. Perhaps Macy's gift card would let them choose what they really want. Or perhaps you use the Macy's gift guide to help narrow things down. Whatever type of mom you're shopping for, Macy's has you covered. They have all the brands she loves, so you're not just guessing. Like Valentino, YSL, La Mer, Burberry, Prada, Olaplex, Miu Miu, Shiseido, Clarence and more. Macy's has classic pieces she could wear every day. Diamond tennis bracelets from Badly Mishka, Effy Diamond Rings and Macy's Diamond Pendant Necklaces Plus. Macy's has lovely pieces to compliment their assortment from brands like McKenzie Childs, Michael Aram and La Crusay. So check out Macy's online gift guide for more ideas. Go to macys.com or shop in store. April is when the world wakes up and your calendar starts getting busy. Am I right? Graduations, weddings are approaching and they call for a party. Anniversaries, birthdays you need to find gifts for, long weekend getaways, big vacations, family gatherings, so much stuff. Good thing Macy's is there to help you get ready. Macy's personal stylist help you to ease your outfit anxiety and turn it into celebratory confidence. And they can help you find the perfect gift too. Book a free session today and get 20% off your purchase with endless combos of shoes, beauty, jewelry, apparel. And you can build your ultimate look from the ground up all in one place. Come into the store and feel the fabrics, try on different fits, play with accessories and see how everything comes together. Need some expert help? Their expert beauty advisors will help you create a perfect makeup look and discover your signature scent for the moment. Plus, do you love fireworks, parades and flowers? This year Macy's is celebrating the 50th anniversary of their 4th of July fireworks show, as well as the 100th Thanksgiving Day Parade and the 51st Annual Flower Show. So come be a part of the fun. Remember to shop at macys.com or in store.

Speaker 2:
[22:48] Now back to the Lady Gang.

Speaker 3:
[22:51] My good week is I have finally hit my goal of having a thousand subscribers on my mail club.

Speaker 1:
[22:57] Yay.

Speaker 3:
[22:58] It's, I actually am up to like 1100 and guess who finally joined? Ms. Keltie Knight. I saw, I was printing my envelopes last night and I was like, oh, she did it.

Speaker 4:
[23:11] Yeah, I told you, I had my credit, I couldn't use my credit card.

Speaker 1:
[23:14] Oh yeah.

Speaker 4:
[23:15] But it did take me two months. Well, at first, I have to be honest. At first, I was like, this isn't for me because the mail really stresses me out. Like I'm the opposite.

Speaker 3:
[23:28] That's the point of the mail club is to not stress you out.

Speaker 4:
[23:32] But you won me over when you were posting all the cutie nudies about it because I was like, I really hate opening the mail and it's like another to-do thing. And the thought process of getting something in the mail, deciding what to do with it, and then keeping what I want, like all of it was just too many things. And then I kept seeing all the cutie patootie things, and I was like, oh, I'm sold. So, you know, you confronted me.

Speaker 3:
[23:58] You can always cancel.

Speaker 4:
[24:00] I'm not going to cancel. I also thought-

Speaker 1:
[24:02] How offensive after her first month if she cancels.

Speaker 4:
[24:05] I'm like, actually, this was stressful.

Speaker 3:
[24:06] It is so funny because all of my friends are subscribed to it, and I can obviously see when people cancel, and I'm like, this will be interesting.

Speaker 1:
[24:14] Yeah. I'd rather just Venmo you 100 bucks a year, so you don't have to worry about sending me anything in the mail, just to support you.

Speaker 3:
[24:22] Send it on over. I'll do that.

Speaker 4:
[24:25] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[24:25] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[24:25] Well, congratulations. Thank you. Also, are you doing commission work? Because I'm just going to let you know that I'm having a wall here that I would like that little cowboy on.

Speaker 3:
[24:35] Which one?

Speaker 4:
[24:36] I don't know. You post all these beautiful pieces of art, and then you don't tell us how we can buy the art.

Speaker 3:
[24:42] Well, this is my problem is I'm trying to figure out how to do that. How do I ship a four-foot painting across the country?

Speaker 4:
[24:50] You put it in Styrofoam and you go for it.

Speaker 3:
[24:53] I know. I have so many logistics I have to figure out. This is really taking over my life. My mail club is taking over my life, that I have no time to do anything else. But that's my next big goal is to be able to figure out how to pack and ship and sell my original art, because it is stacking up. But you know what?

Speaker 4:
[25:09] I sent you a link of an online company that does it, and you send all your art to them, and then they'll sell it for you.

Speaker 3:
[25:16] Oh. Really?

Speaker 1:
[25:18] But you still have to send the art to them.

Speaker 4:
[25:20] Well, those were original. I guess those were prints.

Speaker 1:
[25:23] Is it a thing where you can paint on the canvas and then take the canvas off the frame, roll it and send it like that?

Speaker 3:
[25:29] They have unstretched canvases that I think I want to start doing. Because then you can roll it and it's way cheaper and less fragile to ship.

Speaker 4:
[25:38] But if you make me an art, I'll drive to the OC and pick it up. I'll see your house and then I'll get my art.

Speaker 3:
[25:45] Yeah. Good idea.

Speaker 4:
[25:46] I'll stop at the outlets.

Speaker 3:
[25:48] Wait, the St. Clementi ones?

Speaker 4:
[25:50] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[25:51] Oh, hell yeah. That's good. Yeah. I'll make a commission for you. You just let me know what you want.

Speaker 4:
[25:57] Thank you. What if I'm like, I want me?

Speaker 1:
[26:01] I was thinking that.

Speaker 3:
[26:02] Just a portrait of me. My bad week is a TikTok and I have to play it because I was going to try to paraphrase it and it's just not working.

Speaker 5:
[26:12] Just tell me that she is not a scooper and we need to discuss because I thought every single woman was a scooper and I'm a little shocked that she is not and I need to know if everyone else is. And this is exactly the type of conversation I came out of TikTok retirement to have. She sent me a video about a woman that was getting her path and she happened to be on her period at the same time and the gynecologist scooped everything out. And I said to my friend, I'm like, you don't scoop? And she was like, wait, what? I was like, literally, when it is that time of the month, I get into the shower and I scoop as much out as I can as possible because I don't want to deal with it. And to me, it's just easier to reach up in there and scoop out as much as I can. And I do it every morning during that time of the month. And then I barely have any sort of residual action throughout the day. And I highly recommend this. Okay.

Speaker 3:
[27:19] So then she just goes on to explain why she does this. I am so confused here. How, with what, are we doing this?

Speaker 1:
[27:33] I can't get this visual. And I wish she didn't call it scooping. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4:
[27:37] Scooping is the wrong word.

Speaker 1:
[27:38] That's the grossest. It makes me think of like fingernails. And it really grosses me out.

Speaker 3:
[27:42] Well, yeah. The comments are so funny. It's like, you're in fact the only one that does this. And they're like, scoop from where? Scoop from where?

Speaker 4:
[27:52] But is she wrong?

Speaker 3:
[27:54] Like, I get it.

Speaker 4:
[27:56] If she has a short cervix. It's not, it's not, this is the thing I learned during my histo. It's not as big as you think it is.

Speaker 3:
[28:04] No, I know the cervix is only like three inches long, which is why when people are like, when you're having sex with a guy, it's like not actually going that far up there.

Speaker 1:
[28:13] But you're not going into your cervix. This is just in your uterus. You can't go into your cervix. I mean, you can at her. It's like when they put an IUD up there, that's what they're doing is they're opening and putting in your cervix. And how is she scooping?

Speaker 4:
[28:29] Like is she, she can't reach into your uterus.

Speaker 3:
[28:31] In her vaginal canal? You can?

Speaker 1:
[28:34] As far as a penis can go in there. Yes, that's where a penis goes in your vagina.

Speaker 4:
[28:39] But like the vagina canal.

Speaker 1:
[28:41] Canal.

Speaker 3:
[28:42] Yeah, your vaginal canal.

Speaker 1:
[28:44] But like that's not where all the blood is held. No, your uterus is above your cervix.

Speaker 4:
[28:49] Yes, so you can't get to your...

Speaker 1:
[28:51] Vagina is what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:
[28:53] Yes, you can't get up there. But I get, okay, it's not like you're scooping the melon of your uterus out. You're just going in the causeway of your vagina and cleaning that out so that you get less... I'm not mad at that. Honestly, wait, is our product that we never developed a uterus scoop? No, no, no. It's like, you know, you get that little thing at home.

Speaker 3:
[29:20] Oh, like a little spoon?

Speaker 4:
[29:21] You know, like the straw, the cleaner to get the straw, it's like a little spoolie on a thing. What if you get that for your vagina and you just...

Speaker 3:
[29:31] I mean, listen, I wish that you could do that.

Speaker 4:
[29:33] I would, yeah. I'm not mad at that idea.

Speaker 1:
[29:36] My period doesn't actually come out of my body unless I am peeing. What?

Speaker 3:
[29:43] Well, I get like blood clots when I'm peeing.

Speaker 4:
[29:45] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:46] But I don't, weak, I don't wear tampons or anything.

Speaker 3:
[29:50] I hate you. I hate you with fucking every inch of my being.

Speaker 4:
[29:53] Has it always been that way or just during perimenopause?

Speaker 1:
[29:57] Well, first of all, I'm not in perimenopause yet. Oh, cool.

Speaker 4:
[30:02] Wow.

Speaker 3:
[30:03] Way to glow.

Speaker 1:
[30:04] It's been like this for probably more than 10 years.

Speaker 4:
[30:07] But you have the IUD.

Speaker 1:
[30:09] No, I used to, but I haven't had my IUD.

Speaker 3:
[30:11] Even after it was out?

Speaker 1:
[30:14] I barely bleed.

Speaker 4:
[30:14] Don't say that out loud to anyone else. Actually, we're going to have to take that out.

Speaker 1:
[30:18] I had to pay someone $100,000 to carry my baby. I think I can have this.

Speaker 4:
[30:23] Yeah, you're right. You know what? That's fair.

Speaker 3:
[30:26] So you'll never have to scoop. I, however, could scoop.

Speaker 4:
[30:30] Honestly, you could scoop with a double hand. We could put both hands up.

Speaker 3:
[30:34] I could scoop a whole entire venti Starbucks coffee worth of blood out of my body. But yes, I don't know from where and with what is really the question.

Speaker 1:
[30:43] I think it sounds dangerous.

Speaker 3:
[30:46] Yeah. You're going to damage your vagina.

Speaker 1:
[30:49] I had a period of time where I was having sex with this guy, where every time I had sex with him, I would bleed like I was on my period, but I was not. And it turns out because sometimes if you're having sex, it can create little lesions inside your vagina. And those are very hard to stop from bleeding. So our scooper would probably cause a lot of injury to that area if a penis can.

Speaker 3:
[31:12] That's true. And a penis is smooth for the most part.

Speaker 1:
[31:15] Exactly.

Speaker 4:
[31:17] Just another bad idea from the Lady Gang.

Speaker 1:
[31:22] I want to know who's scooping. Lady Gang, please tell us who's scooping.

Speaker 3:
[31:25] I truly think it's literally only that girl.

Speaker 1:
[31:27] I hope so.

Speaker 3:
[31:29] We'll see.

Speaker 4:
[31:30] You know, this is why I'll never have a good TikTok, because I'm just like talking about real life.

Speaker 3:
[31:36] Hey, Lady Gang, it's Jack. And just in case you've been living under a rock, we have got some brand new merch for you on ladygang.com designed by yours truly, obviously. If you are a bride this year or next year, I made some new bridal merch and it's all of the bridal merch that I wish I had for my wedding. And there's even something that you can wear with your bachelorettes on your bachelorette party. It's so cute. I know. Also, I brought Lazy Gang back. You know, the OG is back in a big way. It's kind of like sporty themed. I'm obsessed with it. And then I have something for you sports moms. If you don't want to wear like a lame jersey, this is going to be your favorite thing to wear to your kids' games. And then for my e-mails, I have a Lady Gang is for Lovers tea. It's very reminiscent of the early 2000s. So go on to theladygang.com, grab some merch and we'll see you later.

Speaker 2:
[32:24] You're listening to the Lady Gang.

Speaker 4:
[32:27] My good week is that yesterday out of the blue, I got an email from my publisher that Target has pre-ordered 15,000 copies of my book.

Speaker 3:
[32:47] Oh my God. Wait, does that count towards your pre-sales?

Speaker 4:
[32:50] Well, then there was confusion because my agent and my book guru said no because they actually had to change the cover. So they are doing, like you know how, remember when we did Barnes and Noble for Lady, Act Like a Lady, we did like an exclusive? So Target wants an exclusive and they want to change the cover so that it's F star star star instead of fuck on the cover. And then they want to do the pages like either glitter or like the color of the outside. So it's like an exclusive edition. And my team was like, well, that doesn't count because it's a different ISBN or whatever. But then the publisher was like, it absolutely counts and we'll order them through book scan. Like it'll be fine. Anyway, here's the thing I will say, is that my whole life and everything we've done, and you guys can attest to this, is like begging people to work with us. Like everything we have done in 10 years, like I cannot explain enough, was like, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please do this, do this, do this, do this. Like to get a random email at 4 PM, that's like a success point, is just so unlike the vibe of my life. It's like, please, let me, you know. So that was like so delicious. My bad week is that as you guys know, I like to have an enemy at all times. Like one enemy, nobody knows about it except you. It's healthy to have. I like, I live for an enemy. Unfortunately, I have made my enemy, Amanda Francis from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I have never met this woman. I know nothing about her. But like for some reason, I watched one thing of her on TikTok or Instagram. And now I'm, and I completed it. So the video, now they think I want this content. This bitch put out a Instagram video about why the New York Times is a lie. Like the New York Times book list.

Speaker 3:
[34:56] And because she didn't make it.

Speaker 4:
[34:59] Well, yeah. And she was like, basically, the New York Times is, God, what did she say? It was something like, the New York Times, you have to like, buy your way on and gaga, gaga, gaga. And she like says this whole thing of like, why it's not real and why it's not actually, doesn't actually have anything to do with like the book sales. And then she's like, so it doesn't matter. And I was an Amazon bestseller. And I was like, first of all, she's not 100% wrong. The New York Times list is an editorial list, which is, I've talked about this before. It is book sales with cultural impact, with press, with our people talking about it. And yes, there are books that sell 4,000 copies that make it to the top of the New York Times because it's a big book. Whereas like the Danielle Steele romance number 575 is not making a list because they just feel like this is not culturally relevant, right? This is, you know, so yes, it's an editorial list.

Speaker 3:
[35:59] This is stupid.

Speaker 4:
[36:00] But I am such a cunt, you guys. I love having an enemy. I commented, now what am I doing with my life?

Speaker 3:
[36:08] On her, what did you say?

Speaker 4:
[36:09] I went on her post and I said, Amanda, this is not true. This is a great way to manipulate your audience.

Speaker 1:
[36:19] Oh, I'm going to the Instagram.

Speaker 4:
[36:20] I'll tell you, I'll read exactly what I said. I'm so mad about it.

Speaker 3:
[36:24] I was like, did she just post this?

Speaker 4:
[36:27] She goes, the truth about the New York.

Speaker 3:
[36:29] Oh, here, I see your comment. I'll read it.

Speaker 4:
[36:32] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[36:32] Wrong. Amazon is an algorithm based site, so you can sell 500 books in a day and make it to the top of the list there and screenshot and act like it was an overall ranking. This is a great example of you manipulating the story in your favor. If you truly sold that many books, you would have hit the USA Today bestseller list because that is in fact based on real book sales and includes self-published books. XO, a New York Times and USA bestselling author.

Speaker 1:
[36:58] She wrote you back.

Speaker 3:
[37:00] Yes. I know. This is what she said. Amazon, USA Today and New York Times all measure different things and reward different strategies. USA Today is based on tracked sales within blah, blah, blah, blah. Whatever. I just published a book, a book I received 60% of royalties on because it's self-published. My point stands, these lists reflect sales. Whatever. That was a stupid reply. Oh my God, Keltie, you're so funny.

Speaker 1:
[37:26] And then you went and you said this about somebody that corroborated with you. This is incredible.

Speaker 3:
[37:34] I was expecting more of AR.

Speaker 1:
[37:35] Do you follow her?

Speaker 4:
[37:37] No. But she's like, I didn't do pre-orders, I just published a book. I'm like, here's the thing, I get why all these bitches in Beverly Hills are so upset with this woman. She is infuriating because she believes her ridiculous, she's me, but so much worse. She believes her hype and her own rules to such a T and like their gospel to her.

Speaker 3:
[38:06] I don't even know. I just think she's like a scammer.

Speaker 1:
[38:09] She's a grifter.

Speaker 3:
[38:10] She's a grifter, she's like an MLM grifter.

Speaker 4:
[38:13] Yes, but like she believes it so much that you can't tell her she's a grifter. Like she's like, I just published a book, like I-

Speaker 1:
[38:21] Well, it's a fine line between grifter and just somebody who hustles. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4:
[38:26] That's what I'm saying. I'm like, am I mad at her hustle?

Speaker 1:
[38:31] Like she posted two hours ago pictures of sales on these things, like.

Speaker 3:
[38:40] On what? I don't-

Speaker 1:
[38:42] On her Instagram stories, e-books and paperback, hardcover Amazon. You can do the math is what it says.

Speaker 3:
[38:49] Well, she's really trying to sell it to people.

Speaker 1:
[38:51] 18,000 books.

Speaker 3:
[38:54] She said she sold 85,000.

Speaker 1:
[38:56] Audible, 75,000 or no, 85,000. I mean, she's sold a shit ton of books.

Speaker 3:
[39:02] 105,000 hardcover or like actual physical, 85,000 audio and 19,000 other real retailers. I mean-

Speaker 4:
[39:13] Wow, she- But that's the thing is that you're so-

Speaker 3:
[39:16] Who's buying this? What's the book about? Being an MLM-

Speaker 1:
[39:19] Manifesting money.

Speaker 3:
[39:21] We don't need any more of these.

Speaker 4:
[39:24] Anyway, but this is the annoying thing because I find her so annoying and like, but then she's like me and I'm like, she's really smart, like she is doing it. And then I'm just so annoyed by it. Like, what is that?

Speaker 3:
[39:37] Anyway. But who is buying her bullshit? Who is her target audience?

Speaker 4:
[39:41] Dum-Dums.

Speaker 1:
[39:43] No, I think that like, listen, she's so annoying on Housewives. I want to punch the screen every time she's on it. I think what it is is that she is almost like a Tony Robbins type where they make you believe in yourself so much because they themselves have created an empire and they're living proof that this quote, way of living reaps all of these rewards and there's no lie there.

Speaker 3:
[40:13] But like, does she have a rich husband? Is she rich?

Speaker 4:
[40:16] No, she's totally self-made, which is like amazing. You look at her and you're like, well, maybe I should sell a digital course. I would like to have a Birkin.

Speaker 3:
[40:23] That's an MLM.

Speaker 1:
[40:25] But no, it's not an MLM because she's not getting girls to then work for her to then sell courses, to then work for her to then sell courses.

Speaker 4:
[40:32] But it is weird because a lot of the people that buy the courses are people that want to then make courses.

Speaker 3:
[40:38] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[40:38] But that's not the goal. That would be like saying that our podcast, teaching people how to do a podcast when we did that, that that was an MLM. No, ours was, if you want to learn to do a podcast, we have a handbook for you. But if you want to then take that and make your own and then teach other people how to do a podcast, like we can't control that. We're not getting a kickback from-

Speaker 3:
[41:00] It's not a course to make a course.

Speaker 1:
[41:01] She's not getting any money back from those girls that are then going and selling courses on their own. That's the difference. And I think that if she weren't so obnoxious and annoying on this show, then there would be a little bit more, there would be an ability to accept what it is that she's doing with a little bit more respect. But the fact is that she's so annoying on this show and all she talks about is how rich she is. And so that, no matter what your business is, I know somebody like that who created a brand here. It has nothing to do with building wealth. It's something that she created, but she's the most annoying person. All she talks about is how much money she's made from said thing. That like you then want to go and be like, well, that thing isn't even that cool. But the reality is, is that you're tearing that thing down because that person is so annoying.

Speaker 3:
[41:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[41:45] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[41:45] It's not the thing, it's the person.

Speaker 1:
[41:47] Yes. Like Tony Robbins, he doesn't trigger people. He's, I went to his thing. I'm like, wow, I get it. I mean, I'm not a disciple, but like, he's cool. He's doing his thing. He's powerful. He's like commands your attention and has some really good points. But he's not annoying and he doesn't flaunt his money in your face. So then you're not like, he's a grifter. You're like, oh, he's made of empire. He's a prophet. He's a prophet. I know. This is so annoying. Not to say that they don't prey on people. Listen, I think she's also preying on people, which bums me out, but I think that that's just capitalism in general. So you could say that us having 60 second ads and our podcast is preying on people. It's just all how you look at it and she's just annoying and so it all sucks.

Speaker 3:
[42:36] I think it all comes down to how annoying you are, period.

Speaker 4:
[42:40] But I'm annoying.

Speaker 3:
[42:41] Yeah, I know. I'm not the same way.

Speaker 4:
[42:44] I think the reason that she's my new enemy is that she is me, but she's a richer version. She's more of an evil genius than I am. She evil geniused herself into a $25 million house and I have only evil geniused myself into Sherman Oaks. You know what I mean? She is so annoying, but then you're like, I got to give it to her.

Speaker 1:
[43:07] But she's not sitting here saying, I'm so annoying the way that you're sitting here saying, I'm so annoying.

Speaker 3:
[43:11] There's no self-awareness with her.

Speaker 1:
[43:13] That's the difference between you two. You're self-deprecating, you're so aware. You're like, I'm shameless. I'm doing X, Y, and Z. I'm shameless. I'm trying so hard. I'm like, you know, I'm work at the system. I'm doing the things. Like you're so transparent about it that you can't dislike you or not root for you. With her, it's annoying. She's acting like she has done something that is like Nobel Prize worthy. When really all she's done is everything that you're doing, just pretending it's something better than it is.

Speaker 3:
[43:41] Is she off the Housewives?

Speaker 4:
[43:43] No, she's still on. They're never going to let her go. She's the only like, she makes Bose is, you know, Bose was like the head of PepsiCo, right? Like she is like, she makes this woman crumble and it is wild. I'm like, Bose has, it's the exact same thing.

Speaker 1:
[44:03] Does Bose sell courses on something?

Speaker 4:
[44:05] Yes, and that's the whole thing is that Amanda's like.

Speaker 3:
[44:08] What's her course is?

Speaker 4:
[44:09] Well, Bose left corporate America. She was like huge CEO of like multiple companies and she left corporate and now she has like a be a badass bitch course.

Speaker 1:
[44:19] The badass workshop.

Speaker 4:
[44:20] Yeah, so she does workshops. She does everything Amanda's doing, but like obviously is maybe not. So Amanda, it's crazy because Bose will be like, you're such a grifter and Amanda's like, you're just jealous because your digital course is not selling the way mine is. But she's right. Amanda's right. Amanda is right. Bose's course is not selling the way the rich as course is selling.

Speaker 1:
[44:42] It is kind of crazy the shade that Bose gives about like the money queen and then hers is the badass workshop.

Speaker 3:
[44:48] Like it's really kind of a lot worse.

Speaker 4:
[44:51] I'm so mad at Amanda and I'm like, how dare you make this little group and sell these things. And meanwhile, I'm like, join the K-type collective. Like I'm doing the same thing, but like I'm not charging. But like, it's still like and Jack's like, join my mail club. Like we're all trying to create a join the LadyGang.

Speaker 3:
[45:08] At least I'm giving them something.

Speaker 1:
[45:09] But here's the difference with the reason Amanda is so maddening is because her expertise is getting rich, but she doesn't, she, it's like-

Speaker 3:
[45:20] How did she get rich?

Speaker 1:
[45:21] It's so meta by selling courses. So it's like such a, like is that what? Yeah. But that's the thing is like, Bose has all this experience that she's sharing. Keltie, you have all this experience in the business world that you're sharing. In the real world, right?

Speaker 3:
[45:33] All she's done is sold courses from the very beginning. So she's just making money.

Speaker 1:
[45:37] She's an influencer.

Speaker 3:
[45:38] But how did she make the money in the beginning? Oh, an influencer.

Speaker 1:
[45:40] I think she's just an influencer who like started to believe.

Speaker 4:
[45:43] She's like big into church. And so she had this like, you know, collective mindset. And then she's like a manifester.

Speaker 3:
[45:51] Being an influencer and then she started selling courses.

Speaker 4:
[45:54] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[45:54] Because you can't sell courses about being rich when you don't have money.

Speaker 1:
[45:58] Right. She was just showing her, I think she was showing how beautiful her life is turning out, like going, you're going along the journey with her because she's been manifesting all of these things happening.

Speaker 4:
[46:07] She's like manifesting, I manifested this man, I manifested this life, I manifested this Zimmerman dress. And then you were like, I mean, she's winning. We're talking about her for 10 minutes. Like it's just, I just don't, anyway, I need to be put in the sandbox. Like I cannot be publicly commenting on people's Instagrams. Like what is wrong with me?

Speaker 1:
[46:30] I do too, keep it going. And I also, it's part of your theory.

Speaker 3:
[46:33] No, that will keep you relevant. You should actually do that more often to everybody that's like that, to like any kind of grifter.

Speaker 1:
[46:41] I think the equivalent of like Bose, because I see a lot of myself in Bose when you're looking at like Neppo babies and you think to yourself, it's kind of the equivalent, not that I have a leg to stand on and nor does she in this situation. But I'll see somebody get put on a TV show and I think, wow, if I counted the amount of hours that I trained, the classes I took, the things I sacrificed, the real-world experience of being an actress, the grind, but then this person is more successful than I am at doing this thing that I trained for. It's just, I mean, it's silly. I can feel those feelings, but it's silly to say that that person doesn't deserve or get, like that they're not good. You can't say they're not good at what they're doing. Maybe they are good. It's just that I feel bitter because Bo's worked her ass off in corporate America a million years to get this knowledge, then teach people. And then this girl was like a natural ability to make money.

Speaker 4:
[47:38] That person, yeah. I feel like that's exactly how I feel about, I was seeing, Sierra Miller was Team Sierra, but I was seeing her, she's doing interviews now, right? She got to host the Wuthering Heights premiere. And I was like, I wanna host this premiere so bad. And it's crazy because I'm like, she does a great job. And then I look at the clip, it's got 4 million views. But then she's holding the mic in the wrong hand. Everybody, like all these influencers, they get on the red carpet.

Speaker 3:
[48:04] What if they're left-handed?

Speaker 4:
[48:05] This. They're like, oh my God, here's my question. And then they go like this. That's the wrong hand. Everybody knows that it's, you keep your body open to the camera. But if you haven't been yelled at by an executive producer to do that, you don't know that. And I wanna like write her and DM her and be like, you're so beautiful, you're doing a great job. Change your mic hand. But like.

Speaker 3:
[48:23] No, keep the comments for like the losers. I think you should.

Speaker 1:
[48:27] I think that's helpful. I think it's helpful to tell her that.

Speaker 4:
[48:31] I did it to like an influencer at the Golden Globes. Like I follow like this fashion guy. He's like, no, I saw your interview, please help me. And I was like, okay. And then I sent him like, I screenshot his videos and then I marked it up. And then I showed him like when it was good, when it was bad. And he was like very thankful.

Speaker 1:
[48:47] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[48:48] Well, anyway, I have a new enemy. It is no longer old enemy. If you've been my enemy in the past, you're free. She's moved on. And now Amanda Francis is my enemy. And the bummer part is, it's like she's everyone's enemy. I'm not even being that.

Speaker 1:
[49:01] Yeah, you're not getting very creative with your enemies because the other one that you were on for a while has become America's enemy as well.

Speaker 4:
[49:08] I know, but the thing is I can't decide if I like really, this is where I'm at. I am mad about this post, but like I can't decide if I hate this woman or if I really like her and think we could take over the world together. Like that is where I'm at.

Speaker 1:
[49:22] Don't do that. She wouldn't take you as a partner. She's a one man show. Okay, well, it's been fun. Blessings to all, especially Amanda Francis.

Speaker 4:
[49:33] Blessings to all, help you manifest that, go take that course. Join the K-type Collective or the Mail Club or the Lady Gang.

Speaker 1:
[49:39] Bye, see you next Tuesday.

Speaker 4:
[49:41] See you next Tuesday. Lady Gang is hosted and produced by Keltie Knight, Becca Tobin and Jac Vanek with social media support from Colleen Carrera, audio and video editing from Jared Monaco and additional support from Steve Dellimeter and PodcastOne.