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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[01:10] Hey, how are you, Kim? Thanks for having me on today.

Speaker 1:
[01:14] So I understand that you had a really big health scare and you're a real outdoorsy guy. And then you put everything into ChatGPT and it told you exactly what was wrong with you. Bring us back to that situation.

Speaker 2:
[01:31] Yeah, absolutely. I can safely say that without ChatGPT, I would not be here today. Yeah, actually, I wouldn't be anywhere. So yeah, I tend to, I'm a health enthusiast. I cycle 15 plus miles every day. I take care of myself and I started having these bouts of dizziness and what's called tachycardia. I'd be sitting on my couch and my heart would be racing at 150 plus beats a minute.

Speaker 1:
[02:00] Okay. And as an athlete, I bet you your resting heart rate was what, probably 50 around there?

Speaker 2:
[02:07] 58.

Speaker 1:
[02:08] Okay. All right.

Speaker 2:
[02:09] Yeah. Anything under 60 is good. Yeah. I had just intense dizziness. I had one night that I get up at two in the morning for a bathroom break and I hit the bathroom floor stone cold, passed out and it was there that the kind of the ping-ponging between different healthcare providers started. My PCP said, well, you should probably see a cardiologist and the cardiologist said, no, you probably want to see somebody that specializes in autonomic disorders. They said they can't help me. They referred me to a gastroenterologist who really only wanted to boost his revenue by doing a colonoscopy and nothing else. And Kim, I was dying. I was down to my seventh grade weight. I couldn't hold my foot down.

Speaker 1:
[02:58] Oh my gosh, you're kidding.

Speaker 2:
[03:00] Oh my, people looked at me, friends, and would ask, hey, David, do you have cancer?

Speaker 1:
[03:05] Yeah, I mean, actually, you know what? I was just going to ask you that. That's what they probably thought. So how long was this whole process when you were going from doctor to doctor, doctor to doctor?

Speaker 2:
[03:15] It was three or four months. And at one point, it got to the point where I said to my wife with sincerity, I said, you know, if I don't wake up tomorrow, I'm okay with that. My life hit the point, Kim, of being non-sustainable anymore, just constant misery, constant pain. And I had one of those aha moments. I worked in tech, and I dumped all of my medical history into a GPT conversation. And the prompt was probably something like, help me. And literally the output came in, and you're familiar with GPT, probably 15 seconds. And GPT said, yeah, what you more than likely have is an autonomic disorder brought about by a bacterial infection. And by the way, while you're at it, go to Amazon and buy this OTC. And and that should do it. And then the standard legal disclaimer.

Speaker 1:
[04:18] No, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2:
[04:21] For real.

Speaker 1:
[04:22] Say that again. It I mean, yeah. So it told you what you had. It told you to go to Amazon to buy an over-the-counter med.

Speaker 2:
[04:29] Yep. The I don't know if I'm allowed to say.

Speaker 1:
[04:32] Sure, you say.

Speaker 2:
[04:33] But it's called the letters FC, Frank Charlie, CIDAL. And basically the cause is a bacterial overgrowth. I was taking GLP-1s for diabetes and it slowed my motility. And I started taking the medication. Literally within three to four days, I started to feel relief from the other symptoms. And I thought, holy moly, I'm on to something here. And it took a couple of months to get back on my feet again. But I went literally from being on the edge of bedridden, I was exhausted by two o'clock most days. The tachycardia was brutal, multiple trips to the ER. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was just, it was horrible. To by the time three or four months rolled around, I went, you know what? I'm gonna get back into that lifestyle that I love. And I started climbing mountains. And New Hampshire is a great place to climb.

Speaker 1:
[05:31] Now this thing, I guess I'm unfamiliar with what Chat told you to buy on Amazon. Is this one of those like fringe medications or fringe supplements that is for sale? Or is this pretty well known?

Speaker 2:
[05:43] It's actually, and I looked at it all, I came to a skeptic's eye. You know, hallucinations and GPT are common and my life literally depended on it. And as I started to read the reviews of the product, I'm holding it in my hand. It's put up by a company called Biotics Research. And there were dozens and dozens and dozens of folks who had a very similar experience to my own, who talked about coming out the other side of it. So yeah, not really fringe at all. It's an organic. And the proof is in the pudding. You can't really fake feeling, wow.

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Speaker 3:
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Speaker 2:
[07:29] It's not a battle.

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 4:
[07:34] It is an honor to share.

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 5:
[08:19] Did you take this results from what Chat had told you and brought it to all the doctors that told you go somewhere else or there's nothing I can do and rub it in their face?

Speaker 2:
[08:29] That is a great question. And candidly, no. You know, one of the things that I remind myself of is that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of the class.

Speaker 1:
[08:40] You know what? I had to say, I use that line. How many times do I say that, Andrew? It's so funny. Here's my line is what I say is that don't forget the guy who graduated last in his medical class is still called doctor. You know?

Speaker 2:
[08:54] Oh, my God. Somebody used that line with me just this morning. How spot on is that? And to take up one step further, one in four doctors are in the bottom quarter of their class.

Speaker 1:
[09:03] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[09:04] So yeah, I did not take the information back, but I'm eternally grateful to be feeling good again.

Speaker 1:
[09:10] And your weight is coming back up?

Speaker 2:
[09:13] Yeah. I'm back to my fighting weight again, back to cycling 15 miles a day. I push out 10,000 steps a day. And last year, my goal when I started to feel better was to summit four mountains here in New Hampshire. And so far this year, I've already been up five mountains here in New Hampshire. So yeah, I'm playing my A game again. And I have to share, I got your email about AI denying claims in the insurance industry in under one second.

Speaker 1:
[09:45] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[09:45] And oh, my goodness, you were spot on on that with the prompt that you can use with GPT, Gemini or Claude to innocent self-advocate. And I thought, my goodness, the timing of that is perfect.

Speaker 1:
[10:01] Well, I'm glad that I helped you out.

Speaker 2:
[10:02] That's that.

Speaker 1:
[10:03] So when you're at the top of these mountains and you think about everything that you've just gone through, you've been to hell and back, right?

Speaker 2:
[10:10] Yeah. And when I get to my first 3000 footer last year, I had one of those moments where it's that piece that surpasses all understanding. And I'm looking around and I thought to myself, wow, could this have taken me out of the game forever? And so I query GPT and I'm like, could I have died from this? And the answer was so boring and unsurprising. The output said, you had severe autonomic instability, the tachycardia with your 150-plus beats a minute for weeks and weeks and weeks, easily could have pushed you into cardiac arrhythmia and killed me. So I'm a very blessed guy. And interestingly, it's not my first rodeo with self-advocacy. Oh my goodness, 15 years ago while cycling, I was struck by a 16-year-old newly licensed driver. Sustained some really, really severe injuries and was kind of run through the medical mill in the same way that I was with my recent challenge. But what I didn't have at that time was the benefit of AI. So the world is a little bit different than that experience.

Speaker 1:
[11:27] You're here for some reason. I don't know what it is, but you're here for something.

Speaker 5:
[11:31] I mean, maybe you should just stay home this weekend though. We don't have to go crazy every single weekend.

Speaker 1:
[11:40] Go sit on the couch, find a series to watch, you know.

Speaker 2:
[11:44] Actually, I hike on Fridays, so I'm working Mondays through Thursdays, and Friday is my hiking day. And I hope I'm within okay to mention this, but my wife and I founded a nonprofit a few years ago to help teach others self-advocacy skills. And I didn't realize that, you know, X amount of time later, and that same skill set would literally save my life, so.

Speaker 1:
[12:10] Well, you know, I'm so happy that you're okay, number one. And number two is that you really, you came on and you told the story, because how many people are sitting there right now, maybe going through a similar situation, right, Andrew?

Speaker 5:
[12:23] Just plug it in. I mean, what's it gonna hurt? Ask ChatGPT, these are my symptoms, here's some files.

Speaker 1:
[12:28] Go ahead and look it over for me. It does hallucinate.

Speaker 5:
[12:31] Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[12:32] We have to make sure. And there may be something where you put it into one chat bot and then you ask the other chat bot what its thoughts are. But, you know, the proof is in the pudding right here that you may not necessarily know exactly what's happening. There is a tool called Consensus. I don't know if you ever tried Consensus. No. Consensus.app, it will look at medical peer reviewed situations and studies. And so, I plugged in my health situation into Consensus the other day. And what mine is, is that I had a coronary transplant three years ago, almost three years ago, and I still have a really bad stigmatism. I can't put on the hard contact lens, glasses won't really help. So, I was wondering if I had, if any stem cell treatment could actually benefit me. And it came back and said, you know, not really, but there's hope maybe someday. But it also came back and said, you know, you were doing everything right. You tried, you know, surgery is not possible.

Speaker 5:
[13:32] And this is AI? Consensus is AI?

Speaker 1:
[13:34] It's consensus.app, consensus.app.

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