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Speaker 1:
[00:01] The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

Speaker 2:
[00:10] Hello, hello, and welcome back to What We Said podcast. Everybody, hope you're having a fantastic Tuesday, and it's about to get even better because our Navy sets are launching today.

Speaker 1:
[00:22] I'm so excited.

Speaker 2:
[00:23] 10 a.m., PST.

Speaker 1:
[00:24] I must say we really ate down on these sets. If you were able to get the striped set, it is that but in Navy. And I have, when I tell you I reach for these, both individually and together, multiple times a week, like those pants, I just want to wear the pants every day. They're very chic, if you will. They're just the perfect weight of cotton. And the fit of them is not, I hate when pants are just like, they leave an indentation on you and they feel just like too tight. These just give more like, kind of oversized around the waist, like they're a little more loose.

Speaker 2:
[01:02] Like a little slouched, but in the best way possible.

Speaker 1:
[01:05] But still structured. And they're just perfect. I've been wearing them on top.

Speaker 2:
[01:10] Don't worry, they have pockets. Also, we're selling the shirt and pants as separate items, but you can also buy them as a set. All those options will be available for you to purchase. So don't miss out.

Speaker 1:
[01:21] Our little like, WWS cute logo is embroidered in the same thread color as the Navy fabric. And it's just like on the, kind of on the lower sleeve area. If you're wondering what makes these unique, it's that we custom made them and the fit of them, also we have a little logo on there, but it's not noticeable. It's not like in your face.

Speaker 2:
[01:39] No, they're the best. You guys will be obsessed.

Speaker 1:
[01:43] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[01:43] And we don't say that lightly. And we definitely don't overuse that word here.

Speaker 1:
[01:48] There is a limited amount of them, not trying to, you know, use tactics, but it is true. We only ordered a certain amount. So if you want them, get your hands on them. We will link them in the show notes. And if you're watching on YouTube in the description, or you can go follow us on Instagram. We're very excited about them and very proud of them. So hope you guys love them. We really should have worn them this week, but we wore them last week.

Speaker 2:
[02:10] So yeah, we wanted to get you guys hype.

Speaker 1:
[02:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[02:12] You know. Well, what's been going on with you?

Speaker 1:
[02:15] Well, big, huge news in my household. I am giving up being a morning person, and I'm literally not kidding.

Speaker 2:
[02:25] Big, huge news.

Speaker 1:
[02:27] I just am at this place. I'm like, I've been dabbling, right? Or I've been breadcrumbing you guys. Yeah, I don't know. It's been hard lately. I think I'm just done. I think I tried. I gave it my best run, and I think I'm over it. Here are my thoughts. Once I got home from Japan, it was just insanely hard. I think with the time change in the first place, with daylight savings happened a few weeks before I went to Japan, maybe a week or two, I don't remember. And that was already a hard adjustment because it just was so dark when I was waking up, and it felt like I was waking up even earlier. I was like, oh, this is gonna be an adjustment, but whatever, I'm still on my grind. And then we went to Japan and I was like, oh, this is gonna be a good thing for it because when I got home, I was waking up naturally at like 3:34 a.m. So I was like, oh, I'll just inch a little closer and then I'll be waking up at 6 and it'll be perfect. Well, it just didn't work out that way. It was like randomly I was staying up so late because of the time change from Japan. So I would be up until like 1 a.m. and then I'm like, sorry, I'm not waking up at 6. So then I started waking up later. And I'm just in this place right now. So I slept in for a few days. And by slept in, I just mean until like 7.30. And I was like, 7.30.

Speaker 2:
[03:44] I mean, like for most people.

Speaker 1:
[03:45] Yeah. Not when you have a kid though. Like that's, I would consider that sleeping in, you know? I mean, I guess I could just pretend I don't have a kid and, you know, Leif could just take care of her every single morning and I could wake up at 9 if I wanted. Obviously that's not reality for me. So it's like, I woke up at 7.30 and I was just like, yeah, this feels so much better. Like, oh my gosh. I was feeling so run down and genuinely like, I think it was just staying up till too late, but I'm like, I feel not even like I'm being healthy. Feels like I'm like way overexerting myself and waking up early, doing these hard workouts, working all day, then staying up late and doing it all again. Obviously, yes, I could go to bed earlier, but it's just like not flowing. I don't know. I kind of like staying up a little bit later. Like it's just my natural instinct. So I'm like, I'm done. I'm over it.

Speaker 2:
[04:40] You do you, boo.

Speaker 1:
[04:41] That's right. What a fun adventure for the past four months. Thanks so much for sticking with me, guys. I gave it a really good run. That's actually the longest that I've ever done that. And it's hard because it does feel good once you're going through the day. Like, you feel accomplished. It feels nice that you had timed yourself before. But I'm just, I don't know, maybe it's just this month I need a reset. And maybe honestly, maybe when summer hits a little more, I'll feel even a little sun's coming up even earlier. Yeah, I'll just be more down because it'll be like fully light when I like, I don't know. We'll see. But that's my update for now is that I gave it a really good run. It was months of my time. And I feel proud of myself for sticking to it very consistently. But I also, yeah, I just got to put me first. Yeah, you do. And I don't want to be tired and sick.

Speaker 2:
[05:30] You had to put your sleep first, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[05:32] I was literally feeling almost like on the verge of sick. Like it would be, which this doesn't make sense because then I would stay up late, but it would be like 5 p.m. And I'm like, I'm going to drop. Like I'm so tired. So then I would just be like, you know, sitting on the couch, like playing with Benny, literally trying to just stay awake and then randomly get a boost of energy and be up till midnight. I'm like, this is not the vibe. Yeah. So yeah, say goodbye to the morning person.

Speaker 2:
[05:58] Goodbye. It's okay.

Speaker 1:
[05:59] I'll be sleeping until at least 730 for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 2:
[06:02] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[06:03] I just feel like that.

Speaker 2:
[06:03] It's not like you're like now waking up at nine or something. It's like, that's, that's an hour. You're still, you know, getting up and getting, getting the day going. You should still be proud of yourself.

Speaker 1:
[06:13] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[06:14] Be easy on yourself.

Speaker 1:
[06:16] I'm like, I've done enough. I know. No, I'm just saying for what the intended goal was, it's not happening. Yeah. Like if the intended goal was like, wake up before Benny's up, do a full workout and like, you know, wash my face and then she's away. That was the goal. That's not happening anymore. So that's the problem is that I still would love that, but whatever. I'm not, I'm not in that phase right now and I don't care. So yeah.

Speaker 2:
[06:40] Good. Nice.

Speaker 1:
[06:41] That's my first update.

Speaker 2:
[06:42] Exciting update.

Speaker 1:
[06:43] My second update is I have a new passion. Going to the dentist.

Speaker 2:
[06:47] Oh.

Speaker 1:
[06:48] Oral health.

Speaker 2:
[06:49] You love it?

Speaker 1:
[06:50] Huge oral health girl.

Speaker 2:
[06:53] You're obsessed?

Speaker 1:
[06:53] I'm obsessed. No, I went to the dentist yesterday for a teeth cleaning and I've been going. So prior to, I guess this was like six months ago that I got a cleaning, I had not gone to the dentist in years and I did not give a rip. Every six months, I'm like, no, I'm not going to get a cleaning. So annoying. It's just such an annoying task. I dread it. I'm there. I'm like, no. I honestly hadn't gone in so long that I kind of forgot what a cleaning even entails. I was dreading it and kind of making it more of a big deal than I think it needed to be in the first place. Went for a cleaning six months ago. I had the best experience. It wasn't that hard. My teeth felt amazing afterwards. They felt so clean. They looked so much better. They were just polished and so clean. And I was like, why was I putting that off for legitimately five years? That's crazy. So decided, you know what? So I got a text.

Speaker 2:
[07:44] You think that you're doing something to them. You think you're going to get me in there. It's your teeth, honey.

Speaker 1:
[07:49] You're health, sweetie.

Speaker 2:
[07:50] You think you're going to get me in there every six months? Joke's on you. They're like, actually, joke's on you. It's called period. What's it called? Period.

Speaker 1:
[07:56] Literally, it's called gingivitis, mama. So I come back. So they text and they're like, it's time for cleaning. I'm like, sorry. I was like, I just went. Then I looked and I'm like, oh, it's been like six months. So decided to go back. Had a lovely experience. My teeth look so much better. Like, okay, here's the thing, mamas. My teeth have been staining or something. Like lately I'm like, okay, so what are these stains on my teeth when I don't even drink like dark sodas, I don't drink coffee. I'm like, what's going on? They told me that green tea is like one of the worst things for staining. I'm like, perfect. My daily matcha has kicked in. And I was like, so what can I do to not like have it be staining? And she's like, you just have to not drink it. I'm like, that's not an option.

Speaker 2:
[08:45] What else? I just went to a tea ceremony. Literally. Now is not the time.

Speaker 1:
[08:49] But she was just saying to rinse after. Like if I do have a matcha, just like rinse your mouth after and it will help a little. But anyway, they polished my teeth. They're looking great. I just was feeling so good. I left. I was proud of myself for, you know, you just feel when you're an adult and you like actually go to your appointments on time. I don't know if that's just maturing. I'm like, oh, I have my life together. I'm not like avoiding. I literally just avoid all appointments. Like they're like, you're checking. I'm like, bye. Literally with, there was one appointment that they were hounding me on for postpartum. Just never went. I don't even remember what it was. I was like, yeah, I'm not going. They're like, hey, you really need to, I'm like, literally just ghosted them. Haven't spoken to them since.

Speaker 2:
[09:33] You're like a 50 year old man.

Speaker 1:
[09:34] Literally, I have like a great relationship with all the doctors that I worked with too, like giving birth and in that whole place, just ghost some for ever. They haven't heard a word from me. I think it was like the year check up or something. Yeah, it wasn't like so soon after. I was just like, yeah, it's like a two day.

Speaker 2:
[09:51] They're like, we need to get you back in.

Speaker 1:
[09:53] Like check out your stitches. I'm like, yeah, I'm good. No, it was literally, I think it was a year or something later.

Speaker 2:
[09:58] That's so funny. But the dentist is great.

Speaker 1:
[10:00] I just decided, I'm like, what is the big what? Because I also, did I get a cavity filled? I can't remember, I got something.

Speaker 2:
[10:09] Getting a cavity filled will kind of deter you after a while. You're just like, great. Got to go in there, like doing x-rays. Yeah. I haven't had many cavities. I've only had one in my entire life. But even then I'm like. I haven't had many either, but if you don't go, you don't have cavities.

Speaker 1:
[10:25] Exactly. What you know or what you don't know won't hurt you.

Speaker 2:
[10:29] Won't hurt you.

Speaker 1:
[10:30] Just has like tooth pain every day. I'm like, if you ignore it.

Speaker 2:
[10:34] If you just think it away. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[10:36] Anyway.

Speaker 2:
[10:37] Love that.

Speaker 1:
[10:38] So that's my update. Super into the dentist lately. I'm so excited to go back in six months.

Speaker 2:
[10:43] I have a dentist appointment coming up, so this is great for me. But I did just go. I literally swear it was two seconds ago.

Speaker 1:
[10:50] It comes so quick. I'm like, really? It's already been six months since I did this thing. But yeah, here's your sign to just not put it off. Just go. It's not that big of a deal. I kind of feel like that with most appointments that I do go to, like I put them off, I make them such a big deal. And then I go and I'm like, literally, who cares?

Speaker 2:
[11:06] You know what I hate is when the appointments I always think are going to be a big deal that I'm like so scared of, especially like, you know when you're pregnant and at the end, they make you do the swab? You know, like they'll like swab you. It's like when you're very close to giving birth.

Speaker 1:
[11:19] Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:
[11:19] And that's like a thing like people dread. And I remember I was like dreading it so much. Then it was just like not a big deal at all. Two seconds. She's like, you can literally do it yourself. I'm like, sorry? It was two seconds long. It's like the appointments I always think are going to be a big deal. And I'm so scared of so fast. The ones I'm like, oh, this will just be quick. I'm like there for two hours. They're like, sorry, we got to look further. I'm like, yeah, great. I'm like, I'm just going to apply a real quick be back in a GIF. No, it's true.

Speaker 1:
[11:45] You know what they say.

Speaker 2:
[11:46] That's life. I don't remember, but you know what they say.

Speaker 1:
[11:49] You can't plan. Go to the doctors. Go to the doctors and you won't regret it.

Speaker 2:
[11:52] Do your appointments.

Speaker 1:
[11:53] Just do it. Just make your appointments. We can do that at my ad midnight that I host that still doesn't exist, but maybe it will one day. So yeah, I'm just feeling very like an adult.

Speaker 2:
[12:03] There's so many different doctors you could go to as well. The health things that you taught me one thing. Lots of specialists in this world.

Speaker 1:
[12:09] It's true.

Speaker 2:
[12:10] They're like, you should be coming in once a year. Once you turn this age, I'm like, sorry. Let's check my what?

Speaker 3:
[12:15] No. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[12:15] So now I'm going to go back on it because go back on what I just said two seconds ago and just gave a whole spiel on just to be a contrarian. But honestly, sometimes I do feel like it is just a money grab where I'm like, that just feels so unnecessary. But the teeth thing, like why not? I feel like it's not, I don't know, I guess it is money obviously. And even if you just go once a year, but I do think like oral health is hugely important. And I do think it's great to get that checked. Some of these things that it's like, yep, come back every year. I'm like, that's feeling a little bit like you just want money to me.

Speaker 2:
[12:49] Like I'll call you if there's an issue.

Speaker 1:
[12:51] I'll call you if I'm feeling a symptom. How about that?

Speaker 2:
[12:53] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[12:53] Anyway, I'm sure you could really say that about a lot of different things. Like people who are in these specialized industries are probably like, no, it's actually like very important to go to the gynecologist to go to all these places. I do agree.

Speaker 2:
[13:04] You should go to the eye doctor every year. You should go to your gynecologist every year. You should go to the skin doctor every year.

Speaker 1:
[13:09] The skin doctor, yeah, I guess it is important to do all of them, but it just feels overwhelming. The skin is another thing that I always dread. I'm just like, I don't want to go. But it is important. I do go once or twice a year, honestly, for me, because I have fair skin. But anyway, make your appointments, ladies. Just be an adult and do it.

Speaker 2:
[13:28] It does feel really good to just get them over with.

Speaker 1:
[13:30] Yeah, it does. You feel accomplished, especially if you just get them in the calendar and you're just going, you know what I mean? Because there are times even leading up where I'll just cancel. I did that the other day, not the other day, the other month, like with a skin one, because I had just gone. I was like, I literally just went. I really don't need to go back. I will go back in six months. And like it came up and I was just like, nah. I was like, I need to reschedule. They're like, for what day? I'm like, I'll get back to you on that. Let me give you a call back.

Speaker 2:
[14:06] I'm screaming. Can't wait to go to the dentist. Love the dentist. You have a good hygienist. It's great.

Speaker 1:
[14:11] It really is. I like the dentist that we go to. I just feel like they make it a very seamless experience.

Speaker 2:
[14:17] And I will say, but if you do have tooth trauma, this is like the most boring conversation, but if you do have dentist trauma though, I one time like they hit a nerve, like he didn't numb me enough and he hit a nerve. And so I do get a little like, antsy at the dentist each time when they're drilling or like not drilling when they're like doing the little cleanings.

Speaker 1:
[14:35] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[14:35] Where it's just like, it's just like a response that I'm like, oh, don't hit a nerve or something.

Speaker 1:
[14:40] Well, do you know what? They've come a long ways because, because I hadn't gone for so long, I was like, oh, I don't want to do this part. I don't want to do this part. Mama, they don't do any of those things anymore that I was like thinking of because everything's so advanced.

Speaker 2:
[14:51] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[14:52] I don't know, just like the whole cleaning thing. It's like, you're not like, I just have memories of like these nasty tasting things. It's like nothing tasted gross. They have like new air polishing thing where it's like not this like gritty stuff in your mouth. It's just like literally air. It just feels so much easier. I'm like, oh, it's come a long way. Anyway, I'll stop talking about the dentist now, but that was my very riveting, very exciting update.

Speaker 2:
[15:15] I also saw in your vlog, you're gardening now and you're having a slug issue.

Speaker 1:
[15:19] Yes, I don't know what the slug issue.

Speaker 2:
[15:21] Or the start of a slug. Yeah, one bite, that's all it takes.

Speaker 1:
[15:25] One bite, that's all it takes, that's not even the song.

Speaker 2:
[15:29] One bite, just great. If it happens, you know where to go. You know who to call a sluggo.

Speaker 1:
[15:35] So, Lafe is mostly the gardener in our house. I'm overseeing everything and documenting.

Speaker 2:
[15:42] Documenting, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[15:43] No, it's been so fun. We have cute little strawberry plants and-

Speaker 2:
[15:47] Strawberries are great. They're so easy. And they're so fun and rewarding to get a big juicy strawberry.

Speaker 1:
[15:53] Yeah, but also I'm like, there's going to be three total.

Speaker 2:
[15:55] Yeah, you just have one.

Speaker 1:
[15:56] One breakfast.

Speaker 2:
[15:56] It's like a fight over who gets to eat it.

Speaker 1:
[15:58] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[15:58] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[15:59] No, it's so cute though. We've been using our basil. We've been making pasta, putting fresh basil on it. We've been using dill. It's been so fun to have the herb. We're just doing herb garden right now. We're starting with that, very beginner level. And we've already had some learning. It's a learning curve. We're already learning little things that we need to adjust. But I think it'll be fun. I feel like, hopefully, it's somewhat easy to keep the little herbs alive.

Speaker 2:
[16:24] Yeah, I think some of them are easier. Like rosemary, I couldn't even kill it if I wanted to.

Speaker 1:
[16:30] Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 2:
[16:32] Do you have rosemary? Yeah, I love rosemary. It smells so good as well.

Speaker 1:
[16:35] Rosemary, thyme, dill, two more. You can watch my vlog for a visual. But yeah, it's been so fun. Benny loves it too, just being out there. Just got her a little potting bench, like a kid's one, over on the side, and it's so cute. Our backyard's coming together a little more. Even, hey, we don't have the stupid permits yet, and we'll get into that later. But the other half of our yard is cute, and it's fun.

Speaker 2:
[16:56] No, I love it. I can't wait to come see your garden.

Speaker 1:
[16:58] Yeah, how's your garden?

Speaker 2:
[17:00] Oh, not good. Well, some plants are thriving, others not so much. I had a strawberry plant that lasted a while, but then it died. So I was like, I trimmed it down, hoping it would grow back this year, and it didn't. So I actually need to go to the garden store and get a couple refills of things. And I'm trying to re-plan my little flower bed to incorporate some tomatoes, actually. I might try some tomatoes, but we'll see.

Speaker 1:
[17:28] Have you done any herbs?

Speaker 2:
[17:29] I've done herbs. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[17:31] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[17:32] Yeah, but there's also spacing. I feel like yours are big, like mine's pretty small. And so there's like certain spacing that I, again, you guys know, I literally just like throw in and I hope it works. Like I'll like read out the things like full sun. I'm like, great. And I just like throw them together. And then some of them will die next to the other ones because it like takes the water or this one will like attract slugs and then it will start eating on my other ones. The slugs love the basil. They were eating my basil like nobody's business. But would you just ask me? Oh, I had herbs in there. Yeah, I've mixed herbs and flowers. And then sometimes like the flowers that I plant, I don't realize, will like block the sun. So I need a little more planning and learning. But it's fun to do that. It's fun to just like throw it in and just like see how, I learn better that way. And like if I were to read about it and then do it.

Speaker 1:
[18:19] Well, we know Leif is very much a, he's our Virgo King. He plans and plans. He like really nails down what we need to do. So that was great on my end. Cause we just went to the garden store. We had all the things we needed to do. And he was like, oh, I have to put this one here, this one, whatever. He knows all the, I mean, he doesn't, we're very beginners with it all, but I'm like, great, you get to do all the research and then I just get to show up. The plant nursery is like the most low stimulating amazing place ever. I want to just go and walk around there more often. So pretty. I would love to plant some flowers. Haven't gotten there, don't know where I'd put them, but I feel like it's just so pretty. I'm like, I've got to add some flowers.

Speaker 2:
[18:58] Well, there are some flowers that like will determine certain bugs, which is great that you can add in certain places that will deter pests from getting your things. I don't know all of them, but it's nice. It's nice once you do know all of this. I feel like my mom always knows the names and stuff, and I'm just like, oh, I know the look. I'm like, that one. Yeah. That one's good in the summer, full sun. That one's good for this, but I was just seeing people in your comments on the YouTube talking about the slugs, and they were giving you tips that I've tried and didn't work. They're like, put the eggshells.

Speaker 1:
[19:33] Sorry, I really did not see any of these comments.

Speaker 2:
[19:35] Oh, really? Maybe I made it up.

Speaker 1:
[19:37] Oh, you're going to go back and deep dive.

Speaker 2:
[19:38] Trauma. People telling me to do that. Now, they're like, oh, put eggshells. Basically, you're supposed to break up eggshells. That's something people say and put it in the soil so that the slugs don't-

Speaker 1:
[19:50] Oh, interesting.

Speaker 2:
[19:50] Get to the plants. That didn't work for me. I did that. It's sharp and it will hurt them.

Speaker 1:
[19:58] Great. It kills them.

Speaker 2:
[19:59] I would come back and they'd be all over my plants. Just literally dodge the eggshells. They put a thing of beer outside of your garden in a cup, and then they'll climb in and drown because they love beer. I'm like, well, that ruins the vibe of my garden if I have a huge circle of beer under it.

Speaker 1:
[20:18] It's like giving away trash.

Speaker 2:
[20:19] Just a huge pool of drowned. I have to go out every morning and get the freaking slugs that are drowned in my beer. It's crazy. Slugs is the only thing that ever worked for me.

Speaker 1:
[20:30] Trying to live your dream life, like gardening in your beautiful yard, just beer everywhere. I'm done. Well, I'll keep you guys updated on all of those things. You guys, it is officially wedding season. And something that can be very fun and exciting, but also overwhelming if you are, whether you're a guest at a wedding or you're in the wedding is to find a perfect dress and accessories and shoes, specifically shoes are always the hardest part of the outfit for me, the amount of times I text Chelsea when I have an outfit and I'm like, what shoes? And I'll send her three different options because that to me just like makes or breaks the outfit. We cannot tell you how obsessed we are with Sam Edelman. They have a shoe for every occasion. They have for the casual moments, I've been wearing these woven ballet flats that I got from them. They're brown, they look so cute with just denim or linen pants. They also have really great, lots of different like heel and sandal options, specifically if you are looking for something for a wedding. They're always so comfortable and truly some of my favorite shoes come from Sam Edelman. They have like sling back heels, kitten heel sandals that are really elegant. They have pumps, they have ballet flats, they have sandals. They really have it all. You guys need to go on their website and you are bound to find something that you love.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 2:
[26:18] Are they nightmares?

Speaker 1:
[26:19] I can't wait to dive in. One of my favorite things to talk about. Trash men.

Speaker 2:
[26:24] Same. Okay, I'll go first. I showed my date a silly video of my best friend and I. And he goes, wow, your best friend is hot. This was during the date. That was the last date. Sarah, keep your thoughts to yourself. Yeah, great. Can't wait to introduce you two.

Speaker 1:
[26:43] That is something I will never understand. Oh my gosh, Chelsea, we need to talk about something shocking. It's like so dark though. I don't know if I should bring this up right now. But I'm going to. Have you seen the stuff about Healy Beck? Noah Beck's sister?

Speaker 2:
[26:58] Yes. Diabolical.

Speaker 1:
[27:02] The reason this was making me think of it is because I was just going to say like when guys are like talking in front of you about how like other girls are hotter than you, I'm like, I will literally never understand. Like, keep, some thoughts can just be inside. Like, I can't, but that the guy, or I should say the child that she was like with, so if you guys have not seen all of this, Hailey Beck was caught like having a relationship with one of her high school students in Arizona. And I think because-

Speaker 2:
[27:35] She's a teacher, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:35] Yeah, she's a teacher.

Speaker 2:
[27:36] She's a high school teacher.

Speaker 1:
[27:37] Because it came up on my free page, I feel like it's just been, I've been seeing all, it'd be like, oh, the texts are released. You know my nosy ass.

Speaker 2:
[27:42] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:43] Every one of those text messages. That is so, when texts are released, oh my gosh, it's so like, such a window into people's lives. It's like just crazy to me anyway.

Speaker 2:
[27:55] Yeah, you feel like you shouldn't be reading them. It's like way too private.

Speaker 1:
[27:59] Exactly. It's such, it's like a car accident. You can't look away. It's just like, this is so shocking. And have you seen any of them? Have you seen like the texts?

Speaker 2:
[28:08] I wish I hadn't.

Speaker 1:
[28:09] No, same. But the reason I was thinking of it is because the kid would be like saying all, like stuff like that to her, her basically, which again, he's 100% the victim. Obviously, he was just saying stuff like, basically like, oh yeah, well, you don't have a nice body and like just like stuff. I'm like, oh, just the whole thing, toxic as I just can't even imagine how they found themselves in a situation.

Speaker 2:
[28:35] I saw one video that was kind of explaining, or not explaining, but theorizing, I guess, basically saying like everyone was like, this guy is like legendary because he's like, like this girl's a predator and he's just like, kind of acting like, okay, can you give me money? Okay, like he's just like acting too cool almost. And they're saying, but that's like, it could just be because he, that's how he's coping with someone who is a teacher, like making these like-

Speaker 1:
[29:03] This like power dynamic. Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:
[29:05] It's not even necessary that he's like, which is, you know, not saying he's not too cool, but they're like, also, you have to realize he's a victim. So he's also speaking and he doesn't know how to navigate this. Like he, that's his way of like kind of being like, yeah, I don't know, he feels uncomfortable. It's not just like, oh, he's trying to be cool. And he's trying to be like, he knows what he's doing. Kind of like making him less of a victim by saying like, oh, he knows what he's doing because he's just so cool. And he's like, basically saying anyways, they're like, you also realize that's like a, what is the word I'm looking for? Trauma response? Yeah. And like a protective mechanism basically of being like kind of rude to her and like saying like things that are like playing it cool. Like if a guy's coming on to you and you're like, you don't want to outright, I don't know, just like reject them and whatever because you're kind of scared of them because of the power dynamic. So you're like trying to kind of play it cool and I don't know. I know what you're saying.

Speaker 1:
[29:56] Yeah. The whole situation is so messed up, but that kid was also in a relationship with another teacher.

Speaker 2:
[30:01] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[30:02] And I think that's how it all came to the forefront, right? I think that someone caught her. Don't quote me on this, but I think it was like someone caught her with him or like that was exposed. And then they went through, like they started going through an investigation, going through all the texts and they're like, sorry, now you're texting her as well. And they found out that he was doing that with two different teachers. And like, Haley Beck kind of knew it too because she was like, would be texting about him and she'd be like, don't compare me to Mrs. B. I'm like, okay, this whole thing is so toxic, this web. And like, you two teachers, what are you doing?

Speaker 2:
[30:43] Yeah, like you've left the planet.

Speaker 1:
[30:46] You have actually lost your entire mind. He's 17.

Speaker 2:
[30:53] So scary.

Speaker 1:
[30:54] Disgusting. Like the private messages about her and like, like his private discussions with his friends, like high schoolers being like, yeah, she was doing this to me. Like, I'm just like, this is a nightmare.

Speaker 2:
[31:08] That's terrifying.

Speaker 1:
[31:10] For her family also, like her siblings to be involved, they're probably like, goodbye. Okay, bye. Like, we do not support this. Also, don't loop me into this, like.

Speaker 2:
[31:24] Oh my gosh, that's so scary.

Speaker 1:
[31:25] It was so diabolical. Like every single part of it, I'm just like, this is nuts.

Speaker 2:
[31:31] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:31] And awful.

Speaker 2:
[31:32] No, that's so bad. I feel, yeah, that makes me feel sick.

Speaker 1:
[31:36] I know.

Speaker 2:
[31:36] It's just like these teachers, I'm like, literally, are you on a different planet? Are you on a different planet? You're like, literally, how are you, like, justifying this and making this, like, a normal part of your day-to-day routine, that you're, like, texting your students and, like, having sexual relationships with your students, teenagers.

Speaker 1:
[31:57] Yeah, she would also be like, you're getting, she would also, because I think he had a girlfriend at one point or, like, something. And she was basically like, you're getting a relationship out of me, like, very manipulative, just being like, I'm not, like, yelling at you or, yeah, you're getting all the benefits with no pro, like, no cons. Yeah, and like, money, like, all this stuff.

Speaker 2:
[32:20] The money is crazy, too.

Speaker 1:
[32:21] The money is crazy, literally.

Speaker 2:
[32:22] That's such a manip, that's what I'm saying. That's like what the video I watched was basically saying. Like, he's in such a bad situation with, like, the power dynamic of it all. And it's like, he doesn't know, like, he probably just doesn't even know how else to react. It's just like, oh, like, it's like, it's keeping some level of his own dignity. You know what I mean? By, you know, the way that he was acting and the way that he was talking. Cause that was like a big theme as everyone was like, the way he's talking is legendary. Like, he's basically taking advantage of them. And it's like, no, no, no.

Speaker 1:
[32:52] No, this is all, there's so much. That's not possible. Well, yes, all of, there's so much trauma and so many issues on everything that's happening. Like, but at the end of the day, when you are in your late twenties, yeah. It's not, there's absolutely zero excuse for, yeah, being in a relationship with someone who is a minor.

Speaker 2:
[33:18] Like, it's just disgusting.

Speaker 1:
[33:20] Absolutely insane.

Speaker 2:
[33:22] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[33:23] Wasn't expecting to go on that.

Speaker 2:
[33:24] Yeah. Good morning. I was dating this guy. We were probably on our third. Wait, no, it's your turn. Sorry. I'm sorry. We've only done one.

Speaker 1:
[33:32] I was dating this guy. We were probably on our third day or so. After dinner, we went back to his place, started kissing, you know, things started escalating slightly. He stopped kissing me and says, If I would have known we were going to do this, I would have showered better. Safe to say, I stopped immediately, got my stuff and left. Disgusting. Sir, you should be showering to absolute perfection on the daily.

Speaker 2:
[33:55] Now you've drawn my attention to it. And now I'm done.

Speaker 1:
[34:01] I would have showered better. A million other things you could have done to de-escalate this. You could have just been like... I want to wait. Like, I don't want to... Like him. You could have just been like, this is so fun. I really respect you.

Speaker 2:
[34:17] I don't want to rush things. Let's do this tomorrow.

Speaker 1:
[34:20] Exactly. You don't need to, again, normalize inside thoughts. You don't need to verbalize that. Showering better is crazy. What did you not do?

Speaker 2:
[34:31] Did you shower at all? Yeah, that's disgusting. No thanks. Like, now that's all I'm thinking about. I was like, okay, so I'm going to get fricking infection or something from you. Now you're disgusting. Like, maybe the smell.

Speaker 1:
[34:46] Spooked, spooked, spooked.

Speaker 2:
[34:48] Okay. I was hooking up with this guy in his car and his girlfriend called right after we finished up and got back in the front seat. He was connected to Apple CarPlay, so her contact showed up on his dash and it was impossible to hide. I was shook that I was the other woman, but I didn't really ask him to explain. It was probably the best sex I've ever had, but I broke things off because I felt so bad for her. Jennifer, I hope you're still not with Jake. The best sex I've ever had is crazy.

Speaker 3:
[35:16] Oh, it's crazy. Apple CarPlay.

Speaker 2:
[35:21] That's so bad. The way your heart would drop immediately.

Speaker 1:
[35:27] Right after getting done with all that?

Speaker 2:
[35:29] No.

Speaker 1:
[35:30] Perfect. Oh, that would be such an odd feeling to be like the other...

Speaker 2:
[35:35] The other woman?

Speaker 1:
[35:36] To realize that you are the other girl. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[35:39] If you didn't know.

Speaker 1:
[35:39] If you didn't know, I can't even imagine that... How your...

Speaker 2:
[35:44] What would you do?

Speaker 1:
[35:45] Stomach would actually... Let's cosplay.

Speaker 2:
[35:47] Okay. That's you. You see it on the CarPlay. What do you do? Well, it was the best sex we've ever had, so... Make sure you take that into consideration.

Speaker 1:
[35:56] Oh, gosh. I wonder how long they were...

Speaker 2:
[35:59] Now, you're instantly guilty. You're instantly like, great. I feel like I would say something. And now I didn't even realize.

Speaker 1:
[36:06] I genuinely feel like I would.

Speaker 2:
[36:08] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:09] Like, immediately. I'd be like, is that... Oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 2:
[36:13] But how does she know it was the girlfriend? Right. Did it say girlfriend with a heart as the contact?

Speaker 1:
[36:18] Right.

Speaker 2:
[36:19] Or did she know who this person was?

Speaker 1:
[36:21] Subtly kind of know.

Speaker 2:
[36:23] She had a hunch, maybe. Blames her.

Speaker 1:
[36:25] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:25] I'm like, you know.

Speaker 1:
[36:27] You shouldn't have done that. Shocking. I went on a Tinder date when I was in college and the guy was insisting on driving me home. I kept telling him that my friends were driving me back to campus and he told me that it would be fine for him to drive me because he only ate half of his burrito and didn't have the energy to murder me.

Speaker 2:
[36:42] Huh? Huh?

Speaker 1:
[36:47] I immediately texted my friends to get me and blocked him. I didn't go on a Tinder date again after that and my friend set me up on a date and my now husband a couple of weeks later.

Speaker 2:
[36:55] I only had half my burrito. So like insinuating if he had eaten his whole burrito, he might have enough energy to murder her. Why?

Speaker 1:
[37:04] Why does their brain go to murder? I'm so scared. Why is that a common thread? Honestly, doing this podcast has terrified me in that way because I've realized it's a common thing that guys bring up murdering you.

Speaker 2:
[37:16] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[37:16] On dates. Why are you bringing that up? Why is your mind even going there? Why are you joking about that?

Speaker 2:
[37:23] Because they know that that's what girls are scared of. So they subconsciously are trying not to be creepy. I'll see certain guys talk about how they're literally, they'll be like, oh, I'm walking home and there's a girl and I'm kind of following her. She's going the same way as me. And I'm trying not to be creepy. I'm trying not to scare them. They're walking faster. I'm like, no, no, no. So maybe they're thinking, okay, she's obviously scared to go home with me because maybe she's scared I'm literally gonna murder her because that's what girls are scared of, which is true.

Speaker 1:
[37:57] But then it's like don't verbalize it.

Speaker 2:
[37:58] Yeah, so maybe don't bring up murder.

Speaker 1:
[37:59] Because I'm picturing if like I was walking home.

Speaker 2:
[38:02] It's like an unspoken thing. Once you've spoken it, now I'm like, oh, so you know what's going on.

Speaker 1:
[38:07] I'm imagining I'm walking home, there's a man behind me. If he says, don't worry, I'm not gonna murder you. I'd be like, bye.

Speaker 2:
[38:18] Don't worry, I'm not thinking about killing you. Definitely not thinking of doing anything else inappropriate with you. You know, you're a beautiful woman. It's like, okay, I'm running at that point.

Speaker 1:
[38:27] Running for the hills. Have you seen those?

Speaker 2:
[38:29] There's nothing you can't do though, because even just be gone.

Speaker 1:
[38:33] Have you seen those videos of people on hikes and it's me letting the girls know I'm safe? Yeah. But it's usually a gay guy.

Speaker 2:
[38:39] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[38:40] He's like-

Speaker 2:
[38:41] They say something crazy.

Speaker 1:
[38:42] Yeah, I can't even remember, but it's like, bringing up, just making it very clear that they are not straight and green flags. They're like, did you watch Vanderpump Rules? They say something as they pass.

Speaker 2:
[38:55] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[38:56] That would be better.

Speaker 2:
[38:56] That would be a good one.

Speaker 1:
[38:57] That would be better. Yeah, maybe just don't bring up murder with someone that you don't know that well.

Speaker 2:
[39:02] Don't remind them of the possibilities. Like, or what you're capable of. Yeah. Because they're already thinking about it.

Speaker 1:
[39:08] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[39:10] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:10] It's so insane. I just can't believe this is a thing that happens. I'm taking right back to Gary.

Speaker 2:
[39:17] I know.

Speaker 1:
[39:17] That man is not safe.

Speaker 2:
[39:19] I thought of that too.

Speaker 1:
[39:20] That man.

Speaker 2:
[39:23] Well, that's a different story when they theorize about it. At least if they're saying, I won't murder you. It's like, okay, well.

Speaker 1:
[39:30] Yeah. But I'm saying I will.

Speaker 2:
[39:32] They're saying, if I did.

Speaker 1:
[39:33] Yeah. If I did, I would put you in that shed.

Speaker 2:
[39:39] I could murder you or if I did murder you. Those are definite say, I'm not going to murder you. That's still sketch, but not as bad.

Speaker 1:
[39:47] Yeah. Crumbs. I'm like, that's actually amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[39:50] Thank you for telling me you're not going to murder me or disrespect me.

Speaker 1:
[39:53] But actually, he didn't say that. He said he didn't have enough energy.

Speaker 2:
[39:55] Oh, that's true. That's actually worse. So he's thinking about it.

Speaker 1:
[39:58] Yeah. You know what?

Speaker 2:
[40:00] It's actually very creepy.

Speaker 1:
[40:02] No, exactly. Like, I'm even thinking about the Gary thing. Like, all roads lead back to him for some reason being like, he really had me fooled, by the way, I was like, he's such a golden retriever. Like, six months later, I'm like, oh, you're a scary man.

Speaker 2:
[40:17] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[40:18] Bringing that up, like again, it's crazy because they were actually engaged or married by the time he was saying this stuff. But bringing that up is actually so scary because if you think about it, I wonder if he is very, very subconsciously, very subtly trying to place a power dynamic of like, oh, you know what I could do? I wouldn't, I would never. But let's be clear, if I wanted to, I could kill you. You're the scariest person alive. Why are you bringing that up?

Speaker 2:
[40:51] Yeah. And you know what? In that moment, well, then, you don't want to provoke them. Fake scenario. Someone says that to you on a date. You're alone with them. Play their game.

Speaker 1:
[41:03] Comply, comply, comply.

Speaker 2:
[41:05] No, no.

Speaker 1:
[41:06] I would.

Speaker 2:
[41:06] Threaten. Oh, like, you know, they're like, I could murder you and I could whatever. He's like, you know, I ate half. I didn't eat the other half of my burrito. Otherwise, I would have had, like, enough energy to murder you.

Speaker 1:
[41:16] The joke from burrito to murder, by the way. Like, how do you even connect those two things?

Speaker 2:
[41:21] By the way, why is this much like carne asada going to give you enough energy to murder somebody? That's crazy. That's all it takes. What I'm saying is you should, you know, you could say something. I don't know exactly. I'm trying to get into my fake scenario.

Speaker 1:
[41:37] Okay, so you're on a date, and let's give this scenario. So he says that to you. You're in the car, and he says, Oh, I only have my burrito.

Speaker 2:
[41:44] How I could say this, but something along the lines of, yeah, and if I would have known that you were going to get a diet coke instead of taking a sip of my tea that I got for you, then you would have already been dead because I poisoned the tea. And then it's like, oh, ha ha ha, and it's like, I'm kidding. And they're like, I'm kidding too. And then you're both like, then you're both threatened.

Speaker 1:
[42:02] Okay, yeah, a little joke.

Speaker 2:
[42:04] If I wanted to kill you, I could chop you up and put you in that shed. And she's like, if I wanted to kill you, you would have already been dead because- No one will ever find your body.

Speaker 1:
[42:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:13] Or like, no one would even know you got murdered. Because I would be so good at it.

Speaker 1:
[42:18] I'm liking that.

Speaker 2:
[42:19] Come up with creative ways to tell them how you could kill them. Right, right.

Speaker 1:
[42:24] This conversation.

Speaker 2:
[42:25] No, it's true. Girls really good at poisoning. That's like the classic way girls kill. Bring us something about poisoning. Make them a little scared that I made you last night. With the special ingredient. Make them feel a little scared. Powered in and make on.

Speaker 1:
[42:41] True. Powered in and make on.

Speaker 2:
[42:43] I can see you coming at me.

Speaker 1:
[42:44] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:45] You'll never see me coming at you.

Speaker 1:
[42:46] I know. I wonder if that because I feel like when I feel threatened, like this has happened to me kind of recently, not in that way necessarily, but like I can't give specifics unfortunately. Like my instinct is just to like comply. Yeah. Comply, comply.

Speaker 2:
[43:02] That's the smart thing to do, I think.

Speaker 1:
[43:04] Not be combative at all. Just be very like, like kind of joking, but almost playing dumb. Like I'm not onto them because it scares me that if I, if they perceive me as like...

Speaker 2:
[43:17] Scared.

Speaker 1:
[43:18] Scared, but also like even smart. Like if they perceive me as like, oh, I know exactly what you're doing. And if I'm being like combative and almost like, what's the other word I'm looking for? I don't know, but just kind of...

Speaker 2:
[43:30] Like aggressive?

Speaker 1:
[43:31] Yeah, or kind of like contrary. And like if I'm like coming back with something, yeah, I guess aggressive, combative. Then I'm afraid that they're like...

Speaker 2:
[43:42] I gotta act now.

Speaker 1:
[43:43] Yeah, like you're gone. Like I feel like it's better to just, not that I thought someone was gonna actually kill me. Okay, by the way, no. But I'm just saying like, I feel like that gives... Okay, these people, these guys who are, by the way, their masculinity is so fragile, but they're trying to be very like aggressive and masculine. I feel as though those people are threatened if by a strong, smart woman who is combating them. So I feel like it's always better to like play dumb and be like escape. Yes. And just be like, oh, and play like, you didn't really hear that comment or like, it's not really clocking to you. And then go in the opposite direction.

Speaker 2:
[44:24] Yeah. I think it depends on the scenario.

Speaker 1:
[44:26] I think it does depend on the person.

Speaker 2:
[44:28] Because if it's like a one time, you don't know them. Sometimes maybe it would be better to be combative. But if it's like a long, a long scheme where it's like you're in a relationship with this person or you know this person, you're going to see this person a lot. It might be better to kind of go incognito.

Speaker 1:
[44:41] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[44:42] But if it's like a one, if it's like on a first date and they say something, it's like, okay, well, we're obviously not going on a second date. And I don't want you to leave the state being like, maybe, you know, make you think that I'm scared of you.

Speaker 1:
[44:54] I also think that your intuition will tell you if you're genuinely in fear. Like, I always do think it's better to placate. But if you're like, okay, this guy's just an idiot and he's, I not actually feel like threatened, but that was a stupid comment. Okay, then, yeah, make the comment back. You know what I mean? Be safe, ladies. It's sad that we even have to have these conversations and then are just so terrifying.

Speaker 2:
[45:13] I do love the quote, be a bitch first and apologize later.

Speaker 1:
[45:17] Yes, definitely.

Speaker 2:
[45:18] It went in doubt, agreed.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 1:
[49:16] I'm sorry. Well, let's backtrack. Because why did you say do you want it and then eat it all?

Speaker 2:
[49:21] Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Speaker 1:
[49:23] Okay, let me eat it all.

Speaker 2:
[49:23] Oops, did you want a bite? Do you want that?

Speaker 1:
[49:25] Well, if I wanted it, then give me a bite. What are you talking about?

Speaker 2:
[49:29] Yeah, did you want me to see you eat it? I'm confused.

Speaker 1:
[49:33] Taking frugal to a new level.

Speaker 2:
[49:34] A new level, disgusting level.

Speaker 1:
[49:37] That is diabolical. Taking you on a date and that is the food is crazy. Someone's leftover pretzel and cheese place.

Speaker 2:
[49:45] No, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[49:46] Half drink, just drinks that are half drink. I can't. Okay, I was on hinge and matched with this guy. We started texting after the initial combo on the app happened for a few days and almost immediately he sends me a pic. As we were planning a date of his ankle monitor, saying the date has to be on FaceTime. But as soon as he's out, he'll treat me as his princess.

Speaker 2:
[50:15] Honestly, I trust him.

Speaker 1:
[50:18] I immediately got the itch and stop replying. Cut to three years later, I've already met the love of my life and we live together. We actually also met on Hinge, shout out Hinge. But the first guy sends me a picture of himself in a field saying, I'm free, are you still my princess?

Speaker 2:
[50:33] Oh my gosh, he waited for you.

Speaker 1:
[50:35] My stomach dropped. I know he sent this to everyone in his roster, but I about died from psychic hand embarrassment.

Speaker 2:
[50:42] In a field is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[50:43] You just, I'm free. Are you still my princess? When that would work on me?

Speaker 2:
[50:50] Yeah, but what if you were the one? Like, what if it was a misunderstanding? What if he was unlawfully or what's it called?

Speaker 1:
[50:57] Like he was, he was, yeah, wrongfully accused, wrongfully accused, wrongfully convicted.

Speaker 2:
[51:04] Like, and you lost out.

Speaker 1:
[51:07] You lost out on the, you could have met the love of your life.

Speaker 2:
[51:09] The most patient man of your, of your life. Three years.

Speaker 1:
[51:12] So romantic. That puts a Mormon mission to shame.

Speaker 2:
[51:15] Oh, seriously. You just got to stay in your house.

Speaker 1:
[51:19] The ankle monitor is crazy weight. So he can be on hinge in jail.

Speaker 2:
[51:25] No, he's just, he's just at home.

Speaker 1:
[51:27] Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Me thinking he's in federal prison for a second here.

Speaker 2:
[51:32] No, he's just in home arrest. Like he just has to stay home.

Speaker 1:
[51:36] So honestly, can she not come over?

Speaker 2:
[51:38] House arrest? Sounds amazing.

Speaker 1:
[51:44] I'd like that.

Speaker 2:
[51:44] You know your man's home. You know he's home.

Speaker 1:
[51:49] No doubt about it. So hold on, why can't she come over?

Speaker 2:
[51:52] You've got multiple people making sure your man's home.

Speaker 1:
[51:55] I, because I think when she said, as soon as he's out, he'll treat me as his princess, that kind of like made me feel like he was in jail. As soon as he's out, but I guess just out of the house. So I'm unfamiliar. Can you, so you can't leave your house ever?

Speaker 2:
[52:11] I mean, I think there's maybe like a certain like, you can go to the grocery store or something. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[52:16] With the ankle monitor?

Speaker 2:
[52:17] Yeah, like you can't just like not actually leave your house. I think it's like a tracker.

Speaker 1:
[52:22] Yeah, right, right. You're monitored very much. I wonder why she can't come over to his house for the date or if she was just too scared.

Speaker 2:
[52:31] I mean, he's very respectful. He's not pushing anything on her. He's not saying like, come to me. That would be a red flag.

Speaker 1:
[52:36] Our king.

Speaker 2:
[52:37] That would be a red flag. If he was like, come over, it's like, okay, come on, I don't know you.

Speaker 1:
[52:41] Yeah, and you're under house arrest?

Speaker 2:
[52:42] Yeah, he's like, don't listen. I'll get right for you. I'll get right for you. Give me three years. I'm working on myself. I'm not gonna press you. I would love to FaceTime you though. Wow. Respectful king. Wow, wow, wow.

Speaker 1:
[52:59] Really turning over a new leaf. You could have really lost out. She said she met the love of her life, but who knows?

Speaker 2:
[53:04] Yeah, who knows?

Speaker 1:
[53:04] Who knows?

Speaker 2:
[53:05] But it also kind of would be scary if like, you don't know what he's in there for and then he remembers you three years later, you'd also on the flip side be terrified.

Speaker 1:
[53:13] Oh. Terrifying.

Speaker 2:
[53:15] He's like, is my princess?

Speaker 1:
[53:16] I'm free, my princess.

Speaker 2:
[53:17] I'm coming to get you, princess.

Speaker 1:
[53:18] No, no. Actually horrifying.

Speaker 2:
[53:21] That would be terrifying. In reality, that's terrifying.

Speaker 1:
[53:23] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[53:24] But I wonder if she looked up what he was in jail for. You can definitely do that. That's gotta be a public record. Yeah. What, a little theft here and there?

Speaker 1:
[53:34] A little theft. We're apologists for this man.

Speaker 2:
[53:39] A little armed robbery never hurt anybody. Okay. Went to visit my long distance returned missionary boyfriend for the weekend in California. And one of the nights he had me lay in the back seat with a blanket over my body. Well, he went to make his different stop, stealing weed.

Speaker 1:
[53:53] Stealing?

Speaker 2:
[53:54] Uh-huh. Or dealing. Dealing, sorry. Dealing weed. He told me his customers would not want to be seen by me. Mind you, I didn't know he was a dealer until he was telling me to get in the back of the car. Also, mind you, I was a 19-year-old sheltered Mormon girl from Utah. I was convinced up to this point that me and him were getting sealed in the temple until he conveniently told me as I was laying under the blanket in the back seat, he doesn't believe in the Mormon church anymore. Went to visit my long distance returned missionary boyfriend for the weekend in California. And that is what happens. He's already dealing drugs.

Speaker 1:
[54:27] I'm screaming.

Speaker 2:
[54:28] Lay in the back seat with a blanket over yourself. Can I just stay home?

Speaker 1:
[54:31] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[54:31] Look, I don't want to be with you that bad. No.

Speaker 1:
[54:34] Why did I even come to visit when you have all these... It is the recent returned missionaries sometimes that are the most unhinged or even just...

Speaker 2:
[54:45] They've literally not been on this planet for two years.

Speaker 1:
[54:47] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[54:48] And they're landing and they're like, whoa.

Speaker 1:
[54:50] They're like, what can I do?

Speaker 2:
[54:51] There's so many different options for them.

Speaker 1:
[54:53] I remember feeling that way too. Again, I was just always under the impression that you couldn't lie to a bishop or something. I've never lied to a bishop. Are you kidding me? My salvation's at stake. I am telling the full 100% truth. I wasn't till literally I was in my early 20s that I learned that people were just lying left and right to their mission or things like that. They're coming on from their mission and I'm just under the impression it's like, we're all following the rules, right? You said that, right? They're like, oh no, I just lied. I'm like, well, how did you do that? Why? I'm like, wait, what? I genuinely, this did not click for me until I was in my 20s that people would just do that. Or even to this day, it's like, as I'm getting to be an adult, it's like, I'll meet someone who's an active Mormon. I'm putting quotes under that. And in my head, that means you're going to church, you're following all the rules, because that's just what I grew up, it's what I thought. And then they'll be like, oh no, we drink. Oh yeah, we don't do that. We don't wear garments like, oh yeah, I don't pay tax. I'm like, oh.

Speaker 2:
[55:59] Didn't realize, I thought you were a Mormon.

Speaker 1:
[56:01] Yeah, they're like, yeah, I am Mormon. I'm like, okay. Again, I have conflicting thoughts over that, because on one hand, I'm like, go off, do whatever you want. But at the same time, it is such a paradigm shift of what I thought it was to be, you know, and especially a return missionary. I would think they're like the closest to God at that point. Like they have been dedicating their life for years. And then it's just get home, all of it's out the window. They're like, oh, I don't even believe in it. I'm like, huh?

Speaker 2:
[56:27] Two years?

Speaker 1:
[56:28] Two years of your life?

Speaker 2:
[56:30] I know, it's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[56:31] Or they're just down to like, yeah, drink, smoke, like have sex immediately. They're just like, I don't care.

Speaker 2:
[56:35] Well, they stick, a lot of like they will stick through, but then they'll come home again.

Speaker 1:
[56:38] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[56:39] It's like, well, why'd you stick through?

Speaker 1:
[56:41] I know. Why did you just leave? I know, it's very interesting. It's a phenomenon. I mean, again, there are so many people who are not like that and who are like super devout with it, but it is surprising to see that.

Speaker 2:
[56:50] It's surprising when they come home and immediately leave the church instead of, like, why didn't you come home?

Speaker 1:
[56:57] Feel it out for a sec.

Speaker 2:
[56:58] Or opposite, like if you didn't want to do it, why didn't you just like leave your mission?

Speaker 1:
[57:03] Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:
[57:03] Like, why were you still, like they'll come home the day after they leave the church. It's like, well.

Speaker 1:
[57:09] Yeah, yeah. No, I know.

Speaker 2:
[57:10] You stuck it out. Oh, good for you.

Speaker 1:
[57:12] I actually know many people who have done that. Like I am thinking of someone specific who like on their mission, they were like planning to leave. They're like, yeah, like right when I get home, I'm like leaving the church, but I'm just like still.

Speaker 2:
[57:23] I think a lot of people. Maybe they like it.

Speaker 1:
[57:24] Yes. I think a lot of people like their mission. Like this is a common sentiment that I've heard even from a lot of people who do not like subscribe to Mormonism at all anymore, but they loved their mission. Like they're like, even though I don't believe it, I still liked, like I still wouldn't have gone home early because I just liked the people and I liked doing service for them. Well, you're in a routine, it's probably like, okay.

Speaker 2:
[57:46] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[57:46] They're like, whatever. I committed to doing, again, not everyone, but I have heard multiple people being like, the last six months of their mission, they're like, I don't really care about this, but I love the people, so I'll just like seek it out.

Speaker 2:
[57:58] Very interesting.

Speaker 1:
[57:59] That is an experience I'm very like-

Speaker 2:
[58:03] You want to try?

Speaker 1:
[58:04] I'm like, I'd like to go on a mission. I hope I can get called to serve soon. That's so specific that neither of us have experienced. Like, I wish I could speak to that more, because I cannot even imagine how that would feel to go away for two full years.

Speaker 2:
[58:18] And I think it's just such a life-altering thing to do. And that's why they talk about it so much when they come home. It's like-

Speaker 1:
[58:25] It's such a formative time of your life too. Like it's such- those ages, like I just genuinely- All right, last one. Started off by me having to pick him up. He had just gotten home from a mission and didn't have a car yet. Mid-conversation, he asks if he can suck on my toes. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[58:41] Like it's been a long time. I need some toe action.

Speaker 1:
[58:45] I laughed because I thought he was kidding. He was dead serious.

Speaker 2:
[58:48] Suck on my toes? He was dead serious.

Speaker 1:
[58:52] Okay, please tell me you knew him before.

Speaker 2:
[58:55] Or not. That's quite shocking.

Speaker 1:
[58:58] Well, I was thinking like maybe it was her boyfriend before.

Speaker 2:
[59:02] It's like, okay, let's get back into it.

Speaker 1:
[59:04] Yeah, let's get back into the toes. He was dead serious and continued to keep asking me after me saying no four times. He said, please, it really turns me on. I told him I had to go. He started singing country songs and wouldn't get out of my car. He continued to show me an Instagram page he started of him just shaving things into his thick chest hair.

Speaker 2:
[59:25] Sorry.

Speaker 1:
[59:27] When he finally got out, he walked to my back window and drew hearts in the dirt.

Speaker 2:
[59:34] He's just vibing. He's just vibing.

Speaker 1:
[59:37] The next day, I woke up to flowers at my house that said, I'm sorry. The crazy part is, I never gave him my address. He now has a TikTok all about sneakers. When it randomly pops up on my feed, I laugh because I know now why he loves sneakers so much.

Speaker 2:
[59:51] He has a foot fetish.

Speaker 1:
[59:52] Because it covers the toes.

Speaker 2:
[59:55] Why does he love sneakers if they're covering the toes?

Speaker 1:
[59:57] True. He's fantasizing what's underneath.

Speaker 2:
[60:02] He still likes that let the imagination run wild kind of thing.

Speaker 1:
[60:07] All of this. He just got home from a mission, sucking on the toes.

Speaker 2:
[60:10] I have an Instagram page of him shaving things into his chest hair.

Speaker 1:
[60:13] King of side quests. The sneaker page on TikTok. Now he's really just vibing out, trying to see what sticks.

Speaker 2:
[60:20] So what was he saying sorry for? For asking for sucking on her toes? Probably. Like, it's just funny that he just knew that he just bobbed the date. It wasn't like, what's this weird thing? He's just like, sorry. Like, I brought up the Instagram page. I drew on your car. I'm sorry. I asked to suck your toes.

Speaker 1:
[60:37] Asking to suck on your toes on a first date is the craziest thing I've ever heard. Like, of course you would laugh and think that was a joke.

Speaker 2:
[60:43] Yes, especially if they just got home from their mission.

Speaker 1:
[60:47] That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:
[60:48] This goes along perfectly.

Speaker 1:
[60:49] This rounds out our conversation. It's like they're the most feral.

Speaker 2:
[60:51] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[60:52] Because they haven't been normal. They're starved. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[60:55] For human affection. They're like literally anything. I know I can't do anything else, but like I can do the toes.

Speaker 1:
[61:00] I wonder if that's a common fetish because of that.

Speaker 2:
[61:03] I actually learned this. I watched Ladies of London. It's a new Bravo show. And one of the girls was talking about fetishes and how it's like so close to the part of your brain. Like the part that recognizes feet is the part that like is very close to the part of like sexual arousal. And so literally sometimes people get the wires crossed in their brain. That's why they have foot fetish where like feet like genuinely like sexually arouse them. Yeah. Okay. So maybe it's just for certain people. Let's just.

Speaker 1:
[61:30] The wires got crossed. And now he's starting a sneaker page.

Speaker 2:
[61:33] Yeah. Who was the one? I think it was Jax from Vanderpump Rules who kind of had a foot fetish. And he would like literally be like walk home, like in your heels, like I want them to be dirty and sweaty. I want your toes to be dirty and sweaty in a second.

Speaker 1:
[61:45] Is that Jax?

Speaker 2:
[61:47] Is that Jax?

Speaker 1:
[61:48] It's got to be Jax. I'm sorry. Walk home in your heels.

Speaker 2:
[61:51] Like he'd be like, I don't care if you were like walking on the dirt, like even better.

Speaker 1:
[61:58] Sweaty is crazy.

Speaker 2:
[61:59] Sorry if it wasn't Jax.

Speaker 1:
[62:00] Yeah. Just a full new personality for him unlocked. That is nuts. I need to watch some. I need to watch some reality TV soon too.

Speaker 2:
[62:11] You got to watch Summer House because obviously the Amanda West thing.

Speaker 1:
[62:14] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, maybe Summer House, you know, you know me, gets really hard to start something. Like that's a big commitment.

Speaker 2:
[62:20] Yeah, it is a big commitment. I think there's 10 or 11 seasons now.

Speaker 1:
[62:23] Oh, I'll try.

Speaker 2:
[62:26] It is good though.

Speaker 1:
[62:27] I am just craving like a dumb, like, well.

Speaker 2:
[62:31] Summer House is for you.

Speaker 1:
[62:32] Really? I'm talking almost like too hot to handle, like Temptation Island, Kate was texting us about Temptation. It's like something stupid, or just like completely.

Speaker 2:
[62:40] Low lift.

Speaker 1:
[62:40] No hate, no shade. Okay, I actually shouldn't call that stupid because like Love Island technically trash TV, but a little, I guess, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[62:51] On purpose.

Speaker 1:
[62:51] On purpose, yeah. I just.

Speaker 2:
[62:54] But real emotions.

Speaker 1:
[62:55] Yeah, I haven't turned my brain off and watched something like that in a while, or even Love is Blind. Like I didn't watch this last season. I'm craving something like that.

Speaker 2:
[63:02] Yeah, this last season wasn't that good.

Speaker 1:
[63:04] I kind of get like that in the summer though. Is Love Island gonna start soon?

Speaker 2:
[63:07] I think it starts in like maybe end of May, beginning of June.

Speaker 1:
[63:10] Okay, yeah. I'm ready. Actually, literally, I think last year, I was like, I'm not gonna watch it. Because you know what it is? It's the pureness of it gets ripped out with the social media culture because like everyone ruins everything.

Speaker 2:
[63:23] So everyone just wants to be Instagram famous.

Speaker 1:
[63:25] Yeah, not even like Instagram famous, but it's like everyone on the outside is like canceling them while they're in the villa on like multiple accounts or just like just hating certain people or shipping certain people. I just like, I don't know, I felt like this last season when they all came out, I was like, it was felt very dark. I was like, oh, I'm feeling very sad for them. Like they blew up overnight and that's great. That's awesome for them that they get these opportunities, but it's like coming with so much hate that it's not feeling like fun. Yeah. It doesn't feel like, yeah, there's certain things where when someone gets big, like becomes kind of like a star, it feels just like fun and exciting. And like maybe I'm just glorifying it because I didn't, like I'm thinking when Paris Hilton, I'm sure she went through hell in the media. I actually know she did. So maybe it is the same, honestly. But wait, I have so many thoughts.

Speaker 2:
[64:22] Just different forms of hate because you know, before social media is like, you kind of just hate or like discuss these people and like ship certain people in the privacy of your own living room.

Speaker 1:
[64:32] Yeah, I guess when it's just broadcasted. Because like even though the big media outlets could do that, now it's just so much more like it's a media, number one, and it's like your peers. Like it's just like people are doing it. So it feels different. I don't know what it is, but it just it felt this last time I was like, oh my gosh, it's been ruined. Like it's not even fun to see them become so successful because you feel so bad for them. It's like, oh my gosh, this is what they're all like going on. These interviews being like, this has been the hardest time of my life. You know what I mean? Okay, I have to end with this really fast with Justin Bieber at Coachella because this goes perfectly along with it. And like, this is not nothing that I'm saying is groundbreaking or like hot takes at all. But I watched it just, you know, on my couch, Couchella. You know, people would say that like Couchella. I didn't know you could watch it on a live stream. And I guess it's only been like that for the past two years.

Speaker 2:
[65:23] Yeah, I don't think that was a thing before.

Speaker 1:
[65:25] The experience of watching Couchella at home was so fun. I thought it was when they were like, oh, it's live streamed. For some reason in my head, I'm like, oh, it's going to be like crappy quality, just like someone randomly filming it so that we can kind of get a feel. No, full blown production. Like you can see every angle, amazing quality, like full blown just concert documentary almost. Like it was so nice. I watched Sabrina, Addison, Justin. Like I watched mostly just the big performances, but I would just like cuddle up on my couch at night with a snack and tune in. I'm like, this is everything.

Speaker 2:
[65:56] That's amazing.

Speaker 1:
[65:56] Anyway, loved that experience. But with Justin's performance, this is what I've been, the conclusion I've been coming to, is that with him going on YouTube and like searching up these things, number one, it was very special and sweet. And I don't even care if that is parasocial, but it felt very special. Like I was tearing up watching it because I feel like it's no secret that the industry really destroys these big stars. Like it is very hard for them mentally. And I think like they kind of give up their childhood to like make other people happy and to like make the whole world happy. And they don't get to have a childhood. They're just like worked to the bone and like going through so much in the press and so overworked. Like I can't even imagine how much they have to do and the weight of the world on their shoulders when they're kids. And I was thinking about this when I was reading, I've read a few celebrity memoirs lately and for example, Jeanette McCurdy, David Archuleta, like in Jeanette's book, she was kind of talking about how people, you know, were, they would meet her and be huge fans of her. And to them, it's like these lines, she's saying everything's so iconic and to her, it's the worst time of her life. Like she is suffering from an eating disorder. Her mom's abusive. She's like going through so much with just people she works with and all these different dynamics and she feels so unhappy. And then everyone else is like, you know, it's this dichotomy of just like, this is the time, this is the era. And she's like, no, that's the most traumatic time of my life. And I felt like the reason this was, this performance was like so special and sweet was because it felt like it was him. So he was like, I'm sure you guys have all seen it by now, but he was on YouTube like typing in. He was like, I wanted to see how like, basically how real, not the connection is, but like, he was like, how far do you guys go back? And like, everyone's like screaming. And then he's like typing in different songs. And so he's like typing in these old, you know, he sings them from swag, obviously. And then he kind of went into this whole portion, which he was like, do you guys go way back? And he like typed in Baby by Justin Bieber. Everyone's just like going crazy. And then he's singing it. And it's like the music videos on the screen of his younger self. And he's singing Favorite Girl, Baby, like all these hits. And he's like looking back and like smiling. And it was like, I was tearing up because I'm like that, it feels like, and I'm not saying like, oh, he's healed now, but it feels like he was like, he's gotten to a place at least for this performance. Yes, where it's like, he was probably going through so much. He probably felt like his childhood was stolen from him in a lot of different ways. He probably felt very miserable during all this time. And it's probably very traumatic to look back on. So when everyone's like the classic like peak Bieber era, he's like, that's not to me, like that's not a happy memory. And so then him looking back and like smiling while he was doing it, like people were like, I have not seen that smile in years. Like he has not-

Speaker 2:
[68:50] Oh my gosh, I'm gonna sob.

Speaker 1:
[68:51] I know, because-

Speaker 2:
[68:52] That's so cute.

Speaker 1:
[68:53] In all of his past performances, like or recent, it's a little more serious.

Speaker 2:
[68:56] I also think that like in a way, he could have been looking at it from, like, okay, I'm gonna see what they see. Not like put myself in there, but like I'm gonna try and see like, okay, this obviously brought people joy and like people are so connected to this time and like these songs. So like I'm gonna bring this up for them and then I'm gonna watch with them and like, I'm seeing from their point of view instead of like putting my own, you know, like thinking about what a terrible time was for me. Maybe he was like, okay, I'm gonna like see what they saw.

Speaker 1:
[69:24] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[69:24] And like they see this like little boy who's just like innocent, like super multi-talented and just.

Speaker 1:
[69:30] Insanely talented. He went back like way back to him singing like with you on YouTube and just like all these older videos. And he was just duetting, like harmonizing with his younger self. Like, oh, I'm actually inconsolable. Like this is so sweet. I loved the whole concept of it. Like I was eating up every literal ounce of everything that he was putting out. I was just like the old stuff, the new stuff, like every vibe. And it really did feel so sweet to see him. Cause he hasn't toured in a long time. Like to see him smiling and like singing these old classics and he, and to hear him talking too. Cause like he doesn't often, I don't know, he doesn't I feel like address people very often. And it was really sweet because he just kept being like, I love you guys so much. Like thank you so much for like being here with me. And like just what he was saying, it was like, oh, okay. He is like very grateful and he does love what he does. It just like has been a rough, you know, a rough journey to get here. Anyway, it was, I was obsessed. And I've been listening to exclusively Justin Bieber for the past two days, like all the old, I'll just go on Spotify and do like old songs and the best of Justin Bieber, like all the different playlists. That's all that I've been listening to and I'm obsessed. He's just so, I like, I was telling Leif, I'm like, I actually can't believe someone can be that talented. Like when he was singing, I'm just like, it's actually unbelievable. Like his voice is unreal and he deserves every bit of hype, I think, of course.

Speaker 2:
[71:03] Oh my gosh, yeah, he's so talented.

Speaker 1:
[71:05] Anyway, that's where I wanted to end things.

Speaker 2:
[71:06] You actually sounded love that.

Speaker 1:
[71:08] Yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 2:
[71:09] JB for life.

Speaker 1:
[71:10] That's right. And Hailey Bieber for life, honestly. Love her, I feel like, you know, as it does, people go through arcs. She's on an up right now. I think people are liking her and I'm happy for her because geez, that family just goes through it. And I love them. Anyway, love you guys so much. Go get our Navy sets if you're interested. They launched at 10 a.m. 10 a.m. PST. So the link will be, if there's any left, the link will be here. The link will be on Instagram. Depending on when you're listening and watching to this, go check it out. Make sure you guys are following us at What We Said Podcast. If you want to watch on YouTube, just type in What We Said Podcast. We love you guys so, so much.

Speaker 2:
[71:48] And that's what we said. Goodbye.

Speaker 3:
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