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Speaker 1:
[00:00] You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible, from backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society, I've got the privilege of talking to Casey today. Casey is an individual that reached out to me about an experience he had up in Southwest Washington, and he had heard me on the Blurry Creatures show recently. So thank you to those guys for having me on to talk about the Ohio Bigfoot flap that was going on early March 2026. And Casey was able to reach out. One interesting piece of info about Casey is Casey does also have prior law enforcement, years of service there as well. So that might come into play, we'll see. But Casey, welcome to the show. How are you doing today, sir?

Speaker 2:
[01:12] Doing great. Thank you for the, for allowing me to be on the show.

Speaker 1:
[01:16] Absolutely. And this is such a cool area that we're going to be talking about. I mean, it is, it's wild, it's remote. It's out there by Moussing Hellens and, and Toodle. Casey, is there anything else that you would want the listeners to know about yourself for context before we get going?

Speaker 2:
[01:38] So Northwest guy grew up, raised, and one of those that would, skeptic would be fair to say for sure, even though I was in law enforcement. Um, I say skeptic of anything such as Bigfoot. But that said, um, yeah, that's pretty much my background, retired police officer.

Speaker 1:
[02:01] That's awesome. Casey, feel free to, to take us back to what was going on that day, how, you know, the year, the time of year and what you guys experienced out there north of Toodle and Silver Lake.

Speaker 2:
[02:17] Yep. Yep. Okay. So afternoon, beautiful, sunny, warm day, July of 2012. Driving along Tower Road, straight stretch, heading out to see family. And my wife's family. And so I was with my wife, my son and his friend. And we were on a straight stretch, like I said, going around 55. And this is July of 2012 again. And about four o'clock in the afternoon, looking straight ahead, I'm driving in literally on the right side, my right, this giant, and I would say jet black on two feet creature of some sort is standing there. And I'm probably 100, 150 yards away from this thing, just looking at it. And then before I could even say anything, all of a sudden it's like a blur. This thing just jets across the highway in an instant. And so as I'm pulling up to this very spot where this just vanishes, it's a clear cut to my left. And I rolled the windows down just in thought, what did I see? And I'm looking into the clear cut, and I'm stopped on Tower Road, and my wife literally says, I wish I wouldn't have saw what I just saw. And I said, oh, I'm so thankful you saw it, because can you imagine being the only person to see something that you don't know what you saw, but you know what it wasn't? This, I've seen deer, I've seen elk, I've seen bear in the wild, I've seen, you name it. And it was none of those things. It was simply unexplainable. And again, guessing just in size, he was so big, 10 plus feet, jet-block. And my wife described this thing as, she goes, someone's like, it's like they pulled a prank on us, like there's this big scream across the whole entire highway. And they just took the camera and just, and the projector, so to speak, in the film across the screen. It was so fast, it was a blur. And in the clear cut, I'm just sitting there for a good 10 plus seconds, easy. Detect nothing, I see nothing. And it's like, if it's an animal, I'm gonna see it. We're going to see it because it's a clear cut. And at this moment, my son, you know, he's like, he wasn't looking ahead. And he and his friend were in the back seat. And he's like, don't tell this story. People are going to think you guys are crazy kind of deal. And we were already thinking that. We weren't going to say anything because we didn't know what it was, other than to say, we know what it absolutely wasn't. And so, you know, we collected ourselves and continued on our way. And literally didn't tell even family when we got to where we were going, and told a few select friends there and there over the years. But it was just, it was crazy. But I can remember just like yesterday, and here we are 2026, and this was 14 years ago, nearly 14 years ago. And it's as fresh as then. And I told my wife the other day, I finally got the nerve to tell her, hey, I'm going to do this, be on the show. And she was good with it. She was like, yeah, that's, we saw what we saw. We don't know what it was. She went so far as to even ask close friends who hunt, have you ever seen a bear on two feet? You know, she was trying to explain it, you know, as if something could move that lightning fast. And no, no, there's no way, there's no such thing. She didn't ask if they'd ever seen Bigfoot, that kind of thing. But she was, she's still just, it's just so baffling. And so that literally was the experience. I mean, it lasted all of seconds at most. But it was unmistakable what we saw. And it was huge, absolutely huge and pitch black. And just in it, Tower Road at that stretch is a good, you know, this is a gas, 30 plus feet easy, wide, probably more. And there's plenty of shoulder on each side. And, but this thing just, just was jetted, just lightning. I'm talking lightning speed.

Speaker 1:
[07:29] That is so fascinating. And it is in an area, if you look, I mean, so let's say we know Tower Road. So if you're looking at Tower Road, I mean, you can look at Silver Lake and Toodle, and that's like high, that's 504 that goes over to St. Helens. But like this area that you're referring to really goes into that center area where there, I mean, there's roads in there, but it's not like, you know, major roads like I-5 or 504 or 505. I mean, you're in there, right?

Speaker 2:
[08:03] Yeah, this, yeah, this, this is, so where we were was a good seven plus miles or so off of I-5 up to our road. There was the straight stretch just right before that area or that turn. There was a house in the distant area to the right, yeah, not too far off the road, but it was literally just right next to the road. Yeah, so just mind boggling.

Speaker 1:
[08:35] So talk about, well, I got a few questions for you. So you mentioned it was just a few seconds of seeing it, I guess we could say blurry run across. We'll use the word blurry a few times in honor of the guys over at Blurry Creatures. So it blurred across the road, ran pretty quick. So I love those guys. Now, did you get a chance to look at it before it started running that way across the road? Like, did you get a good look at it?

Speaker 2:
[09:11] No, actually, it was, see, this is the crazy thing. I mean, it was this thing standing still two feet, and just massive. And I can't even say it was running because I never saw it touch the ground. It was so, just like, I wouldn't say an aberration, but kind of you'd almost think so. And where did it go? And how could it have literally, like, disappeared? Did it go to ground? It didn't go to ground. Again, with my law enforcement background, I would have been able to see, you know, for sure, you know, if this thing's hunting, tracking, that sort of thing. And it just was gone. And there was nowhere literally for it to go. So I didn't get a facial, neither did my wife. She just, we both had the clear vision of it standing. And then just to go back to blur, it was just a literal blur across Tower Road. It's just crazy, absolutely crazy.

Speaker 1:
[10:20] It really is. You mentioned it was jet black, and you were estimating 10 feet, potentially 10 feet tall around there.

Speaker 2:
[10:33] 10 feet all day long. It was so, so giant. I'm a sports guy, I've seen athletes, the seven footers, and there's nothing I can't even begin to say. It was 10 plus. And I say that just because it's, again, a rough estimate, but I'm 150 yards, at least, down the highway, at a straight stretch, and you can see this thing. But again, going 55, I'm closing on it in a second, and thereabouts, and this thing was easy, 10 plus. I know it sounds crazy, but yeah, so.

Speaker 1:
[11:17] Okay, so, I mean, you mentioned your sports guy. So let's say, you know, Shaquille O'Neal, 7'1, that's what Google says, 7'1, but way higher than, way bigger than Shaquille.

Speaker 2:
[11:32] Oh yeah, 100%. Yeah, this dwarfed, he dwarfed him. This thing was just absolutely massive and giant. And, you know, when you see any clips of, you know, what they call Bigfoot, it's, you know, they show that they show this lumbering, whatever some of the stuff you see. And there's this thing moved so, you know, instantly, like just like my wife said, it was as if a cartoon, like you take the cartoon and shows Roadrunner, you know, that kind of thing, just literally, just flash. And so, I have my suspicions as to what I saw, and I can't say natural, because there is nothing to explain it in the natural that I've ever seen. So take what you will from that, but because physically, what can do that? And it was, like I said, it was a beautiful, clear afternoon, and there's just nowhere for it to go. And so, yeah. And I'm just still so thankful my wife saw it, because she's a school teacher, and it's the last thing she would have ever wanted to see, honestly, and she saw it, and she can explain it just the same way as can I. And yeah.

Speaker 1:
[13:14] Gotcha.

Speaker 2:
[13:15] Can I ask you a question?

Speaker 1:
[13:16] Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[13:18] Have you ever heard of a story anything similar to something like this? Because it was so, it's not like I go around listening to shows. Blurry Creatures is a hoot, and I just recently caught on to that. But it's not like I'm into looking for stories like this.

Speaker 1:
[13:37] Right. Right. So you ever heard of? It's interesting, and it was something I was going to bring up too, is that, you know, you listen to your account. And one of the things that does get brought up sometimes is when people see them move very quickly, but very smoothly. And something that's brought up a lot is like, it was so smooth and it was so quick. It was almost like it was on cross-country skis. It was just like, it just glided right across. And I want to say, I have heard a few people saying that it just, you know, looked blurry as it went across. And of course, you know, that's sometimes the joke too, right? Why don't we get any good pictures of Bigfoot? Because it's blurry all the time, but. So I would say, you know, I've heard similar things to how you've described the way that it moved across the road. And I mean, I've even talked to an individual from Pennsylvania where, let me think. So they were filming, they were filming the Bigfoot. And the way that they saw on film as opposed, so they could look down, they could see it through the viewfinder, but they could also look at it and it looked different, which is very interesting. So I don't know, like, if it can, if whatever, whatever this is and whatever it can do, if it can affect the way we're looking at it. Some people think that it can affect our eyes and that's why it might be blurry because of frequencies. It's a lot of a lot of conjecture and theories there, right?

Speaker 2:
[15:24] Let me just say this is how quick I would say this thing was. So let's, it was an easy 40-yard distance, this thing covered just from where it was standing to, and this is even being generous to in saying only 40 yards, because it was much further than that. But let's say a 40-yard distance, you get the sprinters for the NFL combines and that sort of thing. They run a four, a lightning guy is four, two, you know. That's 4.2 seconds. This wasn't even seconds. This was, what would it be? Milla, Milla, Milla, you know, not even a minute of a second. It was crazy how fast this thing covered even 40 yards, let alone it was much further than that, into this clear cut. And so, I mean, that is literally what happened. And so, it wasn't like we saw it take steps. It was like this thing was standing, clearly standing. And then in an absolute flash, you could just see this blur across the highway and then nowhere to be seen. That's what I'm saying. It was, and so can that be natural? Is that something that we've ever seen in the physical? I don't know. I mean, I can't explain it. My wife can't explain it.

Speaker 1:
[16:53] I can't think of anything in nature that can move that quick.

Speaker 2:
[16:58] I know. I know. See, that, therein lies the challenge on the whole thing. It's like, rationally, it's beyond belief. It's just literally beyond belief. And we both saw it. And, you know, so just a smidgen of my, not only was it in my retired police officer, but I'm in higher education as well. So it's not like I'm looking to tell a story to create something here. This is, you know, this is literally what we saw. And again, just to double down, triple down, I'm just so thankful my wife saw it. Because try to repeat that story to someone, and you know, you're going to get the, you know, my son's reaction was what it was. But he knows, certainly we saw what we saw, because we both, he knows us obviously, but it does sound crazy. It just sounds crazy.

Speaker 1:
[17:57] And just to double check, so very, very short time where you actually saw it standing there and then it just blurry went across the road. Was there anything that you could see that, you know, sometimes people when they try to describe what they see, they're like, oh, it looked kind of more like some kind of ape or monkey, or it looked like a human that was hanging out in the woods. Any, any weird details like that?

Speaker 2:
[18:25] Yeah, that's a great question. No, there, that's the thing. I mean, what you could see, what we could see, well, I'll say what I saw in my wife, she would say the same, but just a massive black figure creature. And the best I could describe it would be like, apes aren't even that big, so, goodness. Maybe caricatures of what people would say is Bigfoot, perhaps, but, and it was standing still. It was literally standing, you know, statuesque, you know, for a good, you know, it was a good second plus, easy, because we both saw it. I mean, it was, we were locked in on this thing. You could see it, but you couldn't see like a, it's not like I'm looking at someone's face, 15, 10, 15, 20 feet away, you know, which is frustrating, you know, and it would be for a listener to hear this, but at the same time, that's just what we saw. And it was definitely a physical being standing there. And then just as quick as you can blink, it's just on. And so, because if I would have seen something, you know, in the clear cut, you know, I would have been reaching for my phone, even 2012, we had cell phones. And just to get a snippet. And like I said, I sat there for a good several 10 seconds, there was no traffic behind us or in front of us. We were able to sit there. And, you know, it crossed my mind at the very moment, could this be what people would say is big? For that's one of the reasons I rolled the window down. And not only that, just to see and hear and smell and whatever, but to experience. And plus that's my training, you know, from law enforcement, we always have a window rolled down. And it was just crazy. It was crazy.

Speaker 1:
[20:44] That's some wild stuff. Could you tell how wide across it was?

Speaker 2:
[20:51] Yeah, so in replaying it and at the time, that's a great question. I would say it was broad. And so in comparison to say a shack, who's probably a good, you know, three plus feet, three and a half, this thing was that and then some. So a rough estimate, because you got the shoulder where it was, you know, off the tower road. So it covered a good, you know, it was big enough to see its girth. And I would say, you know, four plus feet. Again, that's a rough estimate, but it was big, it was wide. This wasn't like a, you know, a minute bowl, skinny type of thing. This thing was giant, giant. So, no.

Speaker 1:
[21:44] Okay. Sometimes people, after they experience something like this, they are really affected in different ways. Did it affect you or anyone else in the car or in ways that you can think of?

Speaker 2:
[22:07] So, what it did for me was, there's something for sure out there, and whether it's natural, supernatural, one or the other combination of the two, I definitely know for sure there's something. And I'm not saying it's Bigfoot, because I don't know what it was. I just know what it wasn't. And so, that I'm certain, absolutely certain of. And my wife would say the exact same thing. So, it didn't affect us in the way that, if it would have just been me saying it, I would be really frustrated. I would be like, oh man, who's going to believe this? And try to convince yourself of what you saw, but then try to convince yourself you didn't. But we know what we saw. And so, that thankfully is a blessing, so to speak, that we both did. And so, we both know that we can't say what it was. Right.

Speaker 1:
[23:16] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[23:17] We just know that it exists, whatever it is out there, and when it fits, what I'll say is it definitely fits the features of what people would say as Bigfoot. That I can definitively say, is it fits what people say, and these explanation and caricatures and so forth. But I can't definitively say that's what it was. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1:
[23:43] Yeah, no, it really does. It makes you wonder if there's a whole theory where maybe it's something else, and it's using a form to show itself to us, and sometimes people see it as alien, sometimes as Bigfoot. That's definitely a theory that's out there, but I've heard it. But did anyone get really going down the Bigfoot trail after this that was in the car, or like I don't even want to hear about Bigfoot again, or just kind of you guys were in a middle ground?

Speaker 2:
[24:27] So my wife just kind of kept it close to the vest, as did I, because it was very, very selective. And I bring her into conversation, if we were talking to close friends, like, you guys aren't going to believe what we saw. And she would, and they'd look at her and she'd say, yeah, that's what we saw. What do you guys think it was? And we never would just say, oh, it's Bigfoot. We just never have. However, there's consistencies that it is, perhaps that's what it, based on what you see, so or based on what shows, characters and that sort of thing. But yeah, it would occasionally come up in very, very, because we have friends that live out also in like, I don't know if you're familiar with Rose Valley, which is a community in Cowlitz County and kind of out in the woods, so to speak, and you know, in have, do we know anybody that's ever seen? I've only talked to one person that claims that his, it wasn't he himself that saw it, but he's a basketball coach, college coach in the Northwest and a friend of mine. And I told him, he goes, he goes, you know, I can't believe this. He goes, my uncle, he went on to tell me his story. And, and they literally saw one out on a logging road. And so that's the only other person that I've ever spoken with that can, you know, essentially say they had to run in with something. There's was different because it was actually walking. It wasn't like a blur.

Speaker 1:
[26:18] Oh, sure.

Speaker 2:
[26:20] But that said, you know.

Speaker 1:
[26:24] Two more questions for you. And thank you so much for taking some time out of your day to share this. Would you want to have a sighting again of whatever it was that you saw that day?

Speaker 2:
[26:40] I wouldn't have a problem with it. And, you know, seeing it, what I would want is to have my phone out. And I would want to have video for others to see. I don't have to be convinced of anything. Neither does my wife, because we saw what we saw. I would just want to be able to kind of lock it in for others. I wish that everyone could have seen this. And at some point, because there's no denying, there's something out there. And so it's not like I'm going about my day hoping, oh wow, I hope I see one. When we go there, it definitely crosses my mind, thinking, wow, are we going to?

Speaker 1:
[27:29] Oh yeah, I'd be thinking about it all the time. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[27:31] Yeah, yeah, we do. And yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:37] So, lastly, you know, this happened in 2012, so you have had, well, man, you've had what, 14 years. It's quite a while to think about it. And to probably run it over in your mind a few times.

Speaker 2:
[27:56] Yeah, the story has never, ever changed.

Speaker 1:
[28:01] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[28:01] Let me just, can I add one caveat to this? The only reason why I even went on your show is because, you know, why, you know, was even willing, because when I would tell some of my close friends, hey, you should talk to, you should tell whatever show, I go, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. And then, of course, blurry creatures, you know, they don't just talk about Bigfoot, there's a whole lot of great topics they cover. But when you're on there, it was like, okay, this is the safe place. I can literally, I have no problem telling you. And so, but the story, it's as if it happened yesterday, honestly. It's as if we saw this thing yesterday. So sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 1:
[28:44] My goodness. So have you gotten to, sometimes witnesses will get to a point where, based on what they saw, they could say, Bigfoot, in my opinion, is this or this, or are we at a point where we're as, you know, without as much information as when we started?

Speaker 2:
[29:11] That's a good question. So, you know, based on some of the stories that I've heard of people's sightings and so forth, it doesn't sound exactly the same as mine because that's why I asked you, has anyone ever had an explanation or a story I should say, an experience where something moved this fast? When I hear people telling Bigfoot stories, these encounters, so to speak, they're like lumbering slow or they maybe dash quickly, they take a big jump or whatever. So where do I put that? Do I put it natural or do I put it supernatural? And because it's outside the, I've just never heard of anybody telling a story similar to this, to what we saw and what we experienced. So, no, I, but I, I would say that I do absolutely, there's no question something's out there. And do they have the capability, like you said, to kind of make it make themselves blurry? And I wonder, I don't know. I mean, they, they can, something's doing something, for sure, 100 percent. Am I saying it's Bigfoot? Well, it certainly resembles any and all. You know, when you see a show or you hear of a story and they describe it. Yeah, it matches the description. And why does it always seem like it's on the side of a road? Well, this one was on the side of a road. And in the size, yeah, that's sounds exactly about what we saw. But the speed at which this thing went was just unbelievable, just inexplainable. So how does it do that? I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[30:56] You know, it's one of the reasons I do this show is because I feel that is one of the last great mysteries of the world is trying to figure out what it is, or what exactly Bigfoot is. All these people keep on seeing something out there across the US, and Casey, thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing your experience. I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you came to the show to share today.

Speaker 2:
[31:26] Yeah, that really does sum it up. But, you know, there's absolutely no question that there is, there are things out there, and whether we're going to call it Bigfoot or, but definitely it was not a bear, deer, elk, you know, any of the animals that any of us have ever seen. Nothing of the kind. And so I'm absolutely certain, and there you go.

Speaker 1:
[31:56] Well, thank you so much for coming on, Casey. It was a pleasure talking to you today.

Speaker 2:
[32:02] You too, Jeremiah. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1:
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