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Speaker 1:
[00:00] This week on the program, well, I don't want the world to see me because I don't think they'd understand what the hell I was doing watching this movie. We're talking City of Angels. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sajdak.

Speaker 2:
[00:10] Eric Szyszka.

Speaker 3:
[00:11] Pauline Chris Cabin.

Speaker 1:
[00:13] And we hate movies. Hello, everyone, welcome to The Fine Program, as always. Thank you for tuning in this week, because that's right, Remake Roll continues, because we're talking about City of Angels from 1998, directed by Brad Silberling. Now, this guy, you may recall his work, previous episode, a long time ago, Casper.

Speaker 3:
[01:02] Yes. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1:
[01:03] The friendly ghost, he directed that motion picture. Moonlight Mile, which I think is a Jake Gyllenhaal.

Speaker 3:
[01:08] It is indeed.

Speaker 4:
[01:09] A movie from the outside NC.

Speaker 1:
[01:11] Land of the Lost, the Will Ferrell adaptation there. And also the adaptation, a series of unfortunate events, the Lemony Snicket Netflix.

Speaker 2:
[01:23] Oh, the movie's called that. I thought you were saying it's filmography.

Speaker 1:
[01:28] I mean, what's the best there?

Speaker 2:
[01:29] Casper?

Speaker 3:
[01:30] Casper is kind of the best of the bunch. I think so.

Speaker 1:
[01:35] Some would say this. I mean, this is...

Speaker 4:
[01:36] Some would say this?

Speaker 1:
[01:37] Who would say this, Steve?

Speaker 4:
[01:38] I think somebody must...

Speaker 1:
[01:39] Roger Ebert, maybe. He gave the lone thumbs up on this fucker. Because it's nice and romantic. I'm using air quotes. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[01:47] You don't have to see the fucking farting ghosts from Casper as well. I mean, I don't know. This is... It's a tough filmography.

Speaker 3:
[01:55] That's the thing is Casper at least would make somebody happy. Like Casper is making kids happy. They're laughing their ass off. They're having fun. Lemony Snicket as well, I think. But Moonlight Mile and this movie, I don't know if even the people who are desperate for love are going to really enjoy whatever this shit is that they're being given here.

Speaker 1:
[02:13] I took literally a world class nap during Moonlight Mile. I kind of had it on. It was a Saturday afternoon. And I was just like, what if I rested my eyes during this boring Dower movie?

Speaker 3:
[02:23] No good.

Speaker 1:
[02:24] There you go. Yeah, of course, this is a remake of the Wim Wenders classic Wings of Desire from 1987 with Bruno Gans and Peter Falk. Both of them angels now, of course.

Speaker 3:
[02:36] And Nick Cave. Nick Cave was also a piece.

Speaker 1:
[02:39] Nick Cave for fashion is in the motion picture. I'll say off the bat, I'd prefer they kept Meg Ryan as a fucking circus performer than a doctor. I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 3:
[02:50] Sounds great.

Speaker 2:
[02:51] It's harder, harder work, I'll say that.

Speaker 1:
[02:54] He falls in love with her. She's like a trapeze artist, I think, right? She is, yeah. Like, way more interesting than a fucking doctor. Dude, doctors were a dime a dozen in the 90s.

Speaker 3:
[03:03] Visually, at the very least, yes, it's much more interesting, but I think we were talking about this on the text chain. We were all about hospitals at the moment. We were hospital fucking crazy at the time.

Speaker 2:
[03:16] Well, also, it's smart for Nick Cage, right? Because his Seth character there, he's been watching, he knows what the US economy is. He knows that these guys make money, these doctors. And then she's got this Lake Tahoe house, in addition to this very, very nice LA apartment with a view.

Speaker 1:
[03:36] I will fall for you, but you should transfer your assets to me before you die, actually.

Speaker 2:
[03:40] I couldn't believe it. You guys, you didn't get married first. It was really brutal to see that happen. All of poor Seth tables, Seth plates.

Speaker 1:
[03:50] The thing is, the Acrobat V doctor bit and a bunch of the changes in this. I've seen Wings of Desire a couple of times. It's one of my wife's favorite movies. We've seen it four or five times in our courtship 16 years. But this movie just removes all of the artistry, all of the actual whatever- Stripping for parts. Exactly. It's actually a very logical, we're going to make this into a big blockbuster movie. We're going to make the Angel stuff make super sense. Everything's going to be very clean, what the rules are and how everything works. It's going to be very, very laid out how this movie makes sense. It does, but it lacks any and all artistry, any and all whatever that movie is saying about life and humanity. Also, and I'm sorry, the Wings of Desire ends with her being like, hey, Bruno Gans, I've got some great news for you. I'm in love with this dude and it's awesome and life's amazing. And he's like, I have learned what it's like to be human. And this movie has to traffic in the Hollywood cliche shit of she just fucking runs into a logging truck like Final Destination. Come on now.

Speaker 2:
[04:58] Also, you're a doctor. Heal thyself. You're on the side of the road. Can't you do something?

Speaker 1:
[05:03] Get healing.

Speaker 3:
[05:04] I hate to say it, but there's some things you cannot heal, such as truck. Truck cannot be healed.

Speaker 2:
[05:11] First of all, real quick, she's colliding into truck, bicycle into truck, versus truck into bicycle.

Speaker 1:
[05:17] I agree. How fast was she going? We'll talk about this when we get to this moment, but this movie should end with Meg Ryan. The movie's over, the credits are going up, and then we just cut back into a library, and Meg Ryan's like, hi, we all had a lot of fun tonight. We hope you did too. We had a lot of fun making the movie. Driving come drunk is just as dangerous as driving actually drunk. Totally. That's what I'm here to tell you. You have to give at least 10 hours between having an orgasm and getting behind the wheel of anything.

Speaker 2:
[05:50] And I'm an actor, and I'm not really dead, just so you know.

Speaker 3:
[05:54] And anyway, why don't you support your local library? This is a wonderful system we have, and we've built this since the beginning of our age.

Speaker 1:
[06:01] Honestly though, if you just got fucking pumped and you were at the filling station for a second there, the least you could do is put a helmet on when you're riding a bicycle. I mean, come on. Yes, one in nine women die behind the wheel have been cum drunk. That is proven. Nicholas Cage here. I'm actually not an angel. I hope you had fun tonight. We did. We all did. You know, people's evenings at the movies were starting out on a fun note and not the dour fucking running into a truck and killing herself end of the movie. The front of this, do you guys read what was going on on the trivia?

Speaker 2:
[06:36] No.

Speaker 1:
[06:38] This movie was preceded by something called, the title is, Another Froggy Evening. It's a Michigan J. Frog Looney Tunes short, because Warner Brothers was doing these up and down the 90s. Yes, I do remember that. We discovered this because Tooby's got all these Looney Tunes collections now, and we were watching ones from the 90s. And when I looked them up on IMDB, time after time, it was like, played in front of this movie it shouldn't have, in front of this movie it shouldn't have. And this fucking Michigan J. Frog, and I looked it up, it's like, Michigan J. Frog through the ages, and he's influencing historical figures or something.

Speaker 2:
[07:16] What?

Speaker 1:
[07:17] Yes. It's kind of like the first Minions movie.

Speaker 3:
[07:20] That's insane.

Speaker 1:
[07:21] Hey, real quick here, let me just pull this chair around.

Speaker 5:
[07:25] It's Dennis Franz.

Speaker 1:
[07:27] We all had fun tonight. But men also can suffer from come drunk driving, you understand. That's if your cock goes blasty, it's time for a taxi. That's me, Dennis Franz.

Speaker 3:
[07:39] I have been personally railed by Nicholas Cage, and I can tell you right now, there is no, you cannot move but 15 minutes after he's tucking his big one up your tuchus.

Speaker 2:
[07:50] Oh, those are two heavenly bodies wrestling.

Speaker 6:
[07:52] I'd love to see them.

Speaker 3:
[07:53] Riding together.

Speaker 1:
[07:55] Yes. Oh, and a boing, boing, boing. Hello, my babies. Hello, my darlings. This is me, Michigan J. Frog, here, just to tell you, I did not actually travel through time and influence all those historical figures.

Speaker 4:
[08:06] Also, yes, I am a talking frog because I'm an actor.

Speaker 1:
[08:09] Most frogs cannot talk.

Speaker 5:
[08:10] Back to you, Dennis Franz.

Speaker 2:
[08:11] See, in reality, it was Hitler's idea, not mine.

Speaker 3:
[08:15] You know, these days, up in heaven, I'm dating Maggie. Me and Maggie are getting along, and yes, I hop right in there every morning just to give her the what's what.

Speaker 1:
[08:24] We start with a little girl dying, a little fucking girl dying.

Speaker 2:
[08:28] Yeah, Susan. This is great. Yeah, she's getting too hot, so the mom just tosses her in the tub.

Speaker 3:
[08:34] This is one of the few scenes where I'm kind of like, you almost, other than the mother, you are almost getting the tone of Wings of Desire. Like, the distance is correct. Like, him with the girl is actually like, oh, wait, maybe you got it. Maybe you figured, I don't know. Maybe you figured it out. I don't know. But immediately, it fucking fucks it.

Speaker 1:
[08:53] You're totally right. I'm watching this, I was like, okay, this actually works, like he's just there with the girl and you see them go to the hospital and it's all totally fine. And I'm like, yeah, this is, okay, it's passing the smell test so far, this is great. And then she goes, are you God? And he goes, no, my name's Seth. And I was like, I'm out, I'm out, man, I'm out.

Speaker 2:
[09:14] Also, she says, can mommy come? And he says, no, come on, you can't deny a dying girl her final wish. Grab her mother's soul out of her body.

Speaker 1:
[09:23] I think she's already dead, though, dude. She missed the fucking window on that wish. Hey, I got a quick, I'm doing this like bet with another angel friend of mine. What was your favorite thing about being alive, which you no longer are, by the way?

Speaker 6:
[09:37] Pajamas.

Speaker 2:
[09:38] This is tragic as hell. Like, look at the year this came out, what, 98? This little girl would have grown up and thrived during the pandemic.

Speaker 1:
[09:47] Think so? A lot of time for pajamas, yeah. Oh man. So we cut to Cage talking with Andre Braugher here. And so Cage may be Seth, but they kept Andre Braugher's name from the original. He is Cassiel. If they kept Cage, he should be like Damiel or something like that.

Speaker 3:
[10:07] Sounds right.

Speaker 1:
[10:10] Why does Andre have to be? It does. But if he's Seth, he's just got to be John. You can't have it both ways.

Speaker 2:
[10:17] And I understand Seth is a biblical name. I thought that was like a skateboarder name.

Speaker 1:
[10:21] I mean, it sounds like a skateboarder. I mean, it was a biblical name. But yes, like the ale thing, I think that's how they do it in Wings of Desire. I forget they're like Cassiel and something or other. Damiel. Damiel. Yeah. You can't just like, oh, now I'm Seth.

Speaker 6:
[10:34] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[10:35] It's Cassiel and Ted and our X, our bogus journey.

Speaker 3:
[10:40] It's hard enough to convince people. Like you're trying to convince her that you are an angel and that like you have these choices. That's hard enough with Seth as your name.

Speaker 6:
[10:51] I'm Damiel.

Speaker 3:
[10:52] I'll be your new boyfriend, Damiel.

Speaker 1:
[10:55] At least change it to Damien or something.

Speaker 3:
[10:57] Dominic. Easy enough.

Speaker 2:
[10:58] The Damien thing right there, I think those names sound evil to an American ear. You know, like demons.

Speaker 1:
[11:04] I mean, hey, look, fallen angel. Like, hey, quick question, Dennis Franz, are you actually the devil? Because you're telling me to be a fallen angel. I think I know a little something about fallen angel.

Speaker 2:
[11:16] Of course, he's the most beautiful of them all, Lucifer, and it's Dennis Franz. People were uglier back then.

Speaker 4:
[11:21] You gotta understand.

Speaker 6:
[11:23] Yeah! I had yous all fooled.

Speaker 1:
[11:27] I am the devil.

Speaker 2:
[11:28] You're thinking Bible times? Everyone was ugly as sin.

Speaker 3:
[11:32] Who else would have ordered a ham club sandwich with pancakes and strawberries?

Speaker 6:
[11:37] But the devil! That's right. It's spicy sausage, because I'm the devil.

Speaker 2:
[11:46] I mean, he's a glutton. He's a hedonist, he says.

Speaker 3:
[11:48] I love him.

Speaker 2:
[11:48] He smokes like a chimney. This guy is, well, he's definitely a sinner.

Speaker 3:
[11:52] He's the best part of this movie. Beyond. He's just the best part. This kind of breaks the spell. Once we see Andre Braugher and Nick Cage talking on that sign, I'm like, the green screen on this thing looks so fucking bad.

Speaker 2:
[12:06] It's rough, dude.

Speaker 3:
[12:06] I'm like, oh no, I'm out.

Speaker 1:
[12:09] I thought I was watching an early days funnier die sketch or something.

Speaker 2:
[12:14] It's a heavenly shimmer that makes it look artificial.

Speaker 3:
[12:17] Sure.

Speaker 1:
[12:17] Oh, I think you meant to say heavenly shitter, dude. Because it looks like fucking shit.

Speaker 2:
[12:22] What are you talking about?

Speaker 3:
[12:23] Terrible.

Speaker 2:
[12:24] Yeah, if anyone needs me, I'll be in the heavenly shitter.

Speaker 1:
[12:31] That's what I just called a bathroom I decorated in the house here with all the angel memorabilia on the walls. That's the heavenly shitter. I do. There is this weird because these angels are watching and I think there's something like Nick Cage is like, Oh, did you know this girl? I saw this man on the elevator touch a woman's back and then he touched her bare back and then they and he's like, did they? He's like, Yeah, they did. And I watched them. Yeah. It's like a weird like their watch. Anytime you're fucking ladies and gentlemen, an angel is watching at the foot of the bed.

Speaker 2:
[13:02] Of course, seemingly they get horny and they probably have a lot of genitalia. They don't have genitalia famously.

Speaker 1:
[13:10] We're unclear on that in this mythology.

Speaker 3:
[13:14] When you fall, you get your genitalia. But before that, it's not there.

Speaker 2:
[13:18] Gravity brings it to earth and takes that bump and turns it into a schlong, as I understand it.

Speaker 3:
[13:24] Is that how you understand it?

Speaker 1:
[13:26] Well, that's what the manual said anyway. I do love all these like throughout the movie, like it's not just throughout the movie, whenever we're getting like these wides of Los Angeles, if it's not like B-roll that they paid to license, like if they actually went and filmed it, they are placing angels kind of all over the place, and it becomes like a fucking like the Matrix wears wall though, because they all just look like fucking Agent Smiths and the Black Get Ups.

Speaker 3:
[13:57] I kind of like it because it's the one bit of humor in this, like this movie takes itself so fucking seriously, is so treakily shit. And like I'm just like, oh, there's this like, there's one where he's going through the hospital and there's just some guy who's like watching cartoons with the kids with like, oh, and I'm like, fine, there's a laugh there, finally. It's just something.

Speaker 1:
[14:17] An angel like finding Looney Tunes Remarkable is a pretty good shot.

Speaker 3:
[14:21] Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1:
[14:22] Well, here's the question. Can you just like, if you're an angel, like, you know, could you just like go to the movies? It doesn't seem like you're assigned to anybody. You're just supposed to like kind of walk the earth. And if you see trouble, you're like fucking Keith, John, which Carradine is it from?

Speaker 2:
[14:40] David Carradine.

Speaker 1:
[14:41] David Carradine. Like you're just walking the earth, solving problems as they come to you.

Speaker 2:
[14:45] Yeah, that sounds pretty good, honestly. I would like just to chill out for a while. If I could be an angel, that'd be fantastic.

Speaker 1:
[14:52] But that's not chilling out there.

Speaker 6:
[14:53] That's like you're walking around, you're constantly on the watch for shit.

Speaker 1:
[14:56] Like if you're assigned to a person, then at least you're like, well, you know, my guy's asleep, he's doing good. No signs from the big man upstairs. I gotta take him in the night, so now I can go to the movies.

Speaker 2:
[15:09] But what if your person's like a pig, or like some, there's something off, you just don't like their company. And I'd rather just walk around and just find my own troubles.

Speaker 1:
[15:19] I can't believe I was assigned to a gooner. He's gooning. He's been gooning nonstop.

Speaker 2:
[15:25] Whenever I goon, I go, I know you're here.

Speaker 3:
[15:29] There's no angels near gooners. We know this much. Only demons hang out there like, yeah, keep doing it.

Speaker 1:
[15:35] I love it. Keep doing it.

Speaker 6:
[15:38] Longer.

Speaker 1:
[15:40] Oh, no, my gooner's going to get a blood clot in his leg. Better convince him to stand up so he doesn't die.

Speaker 3:
[15:46] Another paycheck. Send it to OnlyFans. Yes.

Speaker 6:
[15:50] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[15:51] She really likes you.

Speaker 1:
[15:55] It is nice to see that it's not just like we're helping people who are like lonely or distraught or whatever. I love really doing a service here. The air traffic controller who's like worried about credit card bills.

Speaker 2:
[16:07] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[16:07] Then Nicholas Cage has to be like, hey man, incoming disaster.

Speaker 2:
[16:13] But dude, you're a god guy. Help him out with those bills. Figure something out. Maybe divert that plane into the credit card building.

Speaker 3:
[16:21] Limitations. Limitations, Eric. He doesn't got it.

Speaker 1:
[16:24] Did you notice who the air traffic controller was?

Speaker 5:
[16:26] No.

Speaker 1:
[16:27] No, I didn't. One J. Patterson, April's boss from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Speaker 5:
[16:32] Oh, shit.

Speaker 1:
[16:33] All right.

Speaker 5:
[16:34] Dan. Dan, my grown son, Dan. No.

Speaker 3:
[16:40] No, not Seth Green.

Speaker 5:
[16:41] I can't focus on all these planes.

Speaker 1:
[16:43] My son's missing with the Ninja Turtles. It's fine. The Ninja Turtles are fine. The turtles will find your son. You need to find a way for this flight path to clear.

Speaker 2:
[16:53] He's not taking any of the Foot Clan to heaven because he's like, I thought they were robots. I saw it in the cartoon and the video games.

Speaker 1:
[17:00] Oh, son of a bitch, those were teenage children. Oh, this is a fucking black eye on heaven, I'll tell you that.

Speaker 5:
[17:09] Now I gotta fall, I guess.

Speaker 1:
[17:11] And also, but that's a good point, you know, because he's like, you know, mostly, I think he says at some point, mostly he ferries people into death. That seems like a specific job. Like people are dying in Los Angeles. People are dying left and right. This guy would be running ragged all over the place. But there's so many of them.

Speaker 3:
[17:28] There's a bunch of them.

Speaker 6:
[17:29] And I like, I see the attendance of those fucking beach parties at dawn and dusk.

Speaker 1:
[17:33] There's a lot of angels out there.

Speaker 2:
[17:35] Too many angels. It's not really special anymore, right?

Speaker 1:
[17:38] Well, that's right. I guess it's like, it's okay if he falls like, well, what? There's like fucking 50 guys. I can't fart without an angel behind me.

Speaker 3:
[17:45] And God can make that shit anytime he likes. It's not like he has to procreate or anything. Just snaps his fingers. Oh, here's a bunch of new angels.

Speaker 2:
[17:50] Sure, but what happens if he doesn't get the guy in time? Does he just resuscitate and live? It's like, oh shit, or does the devils get him? That's right, the devil got him.

Speaker 3:
[18:03] That's, I mean, Eric, what you're talking about, I'm glad we only, like, I was kind of pissed off about the amount of information I get anyway. I'm not huge on rules. I don't need that many of them to be given to me when a movie like this starts. So I don't want any more than I get. And I'm kind of glad that we only get as much as we do so that they can play a little bit with the in-between.

Speaker 1:
[18:23] Yeah, yeah, I mean, there's not a ton here. I think he's meeting back up with Andre Braugher, and Andre Braugher's talking about how angels were never humans to begin with. He's like, something, something, this little girl asked me one time if I had wings, and there's a great line, like, what good would wings be if you couldn't feel the wind on your face? Which I think is a line possibly directly, right from the OG. But yeah, this is where all the angels are on the beach watching the sunrise, and it's like, shh, could you guys stop talking about what we are? The sun is rising, you're ruining it. But apparently there's beautiful music that we can't hear. F1, F1 Angels.

Speaker 2:
[18:59] But it's fucking great.

Speaker 1:
[19:00] That is kind of the best part of the movie when Dennis Franz realizes he can no longer hear. That's kind of, it's the closest Dennis Franz has ever come to breaking my heart.

Speaker 3:
[19:08] It's right before I see his ass. So I'm happy as a clam here. This is a beautiful scene.

Speaker 2:
[19:13] The music should be the Goo Goo Dolls. They only exist in heaven.

Speaker 1:
[19:16] Yeah, of course.

Speaker 3:
[19:18] I was going to say, my mom, A, this was her tear-jerker movie. If she wanted to cry a bit, she would put this movie on. She had the soundtrack. This is how I was introduced to Jimi Hendrix. Wow, okay. Red House is in this movie, and it's one of my favorite songs ever. But I was listening, I was like, oh, the rest of this is garbage. Except for the Paula Cole song, which talks about, it's when she's fingering herself, after she first meets Seth. And there's an actual line that says, I have the Amazon between my legs right now. Holy shit, okay.

Speaker 1:
[19:53] First of all, I will not allow any Alanis uninvited slander on this podcast.

Speaker 5:
[19:58] Yeah, that's a great tune. It's a banger.

Speaker 2:
[20:00] I kind of agree with Chris.

Speaker 1:
[20:02] Oh, it's a banger, ladies and gentlemen. And also I have an affinity for the Goo Goo Dolls Iris as well. That's more of an ironic love.

Speaker 2:
[20:09] That belongs in the kingdom of heaven. That is a great song.

Speaker 1:
[20:13] That was like, it's weird, like they wrote that song for this soundtrack. And then it later went on the Dizzy Up the Girl record. And I wasn't going to nerdily text you guys about it, but I don't know if you noticed, the version that we hear in this movie is not the version that everybody is more traditionally familiar with. It's a completely different recording. It's like Johnny by himself. It doesn't seem like the rest of the dolls are there. It's a little less on the production end. Yes, it's not as beefed up, yeah. Hey folks, today's episode is brought to you in part by Hims. Now look, you don't want to just lose weight, right? You want to look better and feel better. That's why Weight Loss by Hims now offers access to the FDA approved Wegovi Pill and the FDA approved Wegovi Pen. Wegovi is designed to help you lose weight and keep it off so you can stay on track with your goals. With Wegovi at Hims, lose up to 20% or more of your body weight when combined with diet and exercise. It helps you regulate your appetite and eat less, so success is within reach. Plus, Wegovi is the first ever GLP-1 pill for weight loss, so there are no needles needed, y'all. Through Hims, everything happens online. You'll connect with a licensed provider who will determine if treatment is right for you, and if prescribed, your medication is delivered right to your door, no insurance necessary. Even better, with a range of affordable GLP-1 options, Hims makes it simple to find a weight loss approach that fits your world and your wallet, if eligible. You'll get a treatment plan personalized to you and unlimited dosage changes as needed. Ready to reach your goals? Visit hims.com/whm to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you. That's hims.com/whmweightlossbyhims is not available in all 50 states. WeGoVee is the registered trademark of Novo Nordis AS. To get started and learn more, including important safety information, WeGoVee clinical study information and restrictions, visit hims.com.

Speaker 2:
[22:26] By the way, some social commentary here at The Star where Meg Ryan's at work in this hospital. You see a surgeon reading People magazine and tossing it into the bio as you think.

Speaker 3:
[22:37] Wouldn't you believe it? Oh my God, because celebrity culture just, whoo, got away from us.

Speaker 1:
[22:42] Well, that's when we're having like, because she just kind of goes to work, and she's a cool, tough-as-shit doctor, and she's a surgeon. Or she's shushing and booming on her bicycle to get to work, though, isn't she? Fucking no helmet to be found.

Speaker 2:
[22:54] Honestly, not a good doctor. First person I see, she kills, and then she's got terrible bedside manner with everyone.

Speaker 1:
[23:00] Awful bedside manner. Yeah, not great. She's a terrible fucking doctor. But the People magazine bothered me, because it's like, oh, we're kind of, doctors having fun. We blasted Jimi Hendrix, as Chris said, and she's like, cool, I got this one. And then like, while they're doing it, this dude is reading a People magazine next to an open wound. Like, I don't know, magazines are fucking filthy. That should be nowhere near the surgery room. Yeah, like, what fucking waiting room did you pull that from? What other gunk is all over it? Have you seen a fucking newsstand?

Speaker 2:
[23:30] I don't want to come to and have a paper cut.

Speaker 3:
[23:33] That would be bad. I do agree with that. My mom loved this because the Rosenfeld, when she comes in, she asks who cathed them, and Rosenfeld did it. That's what my mom did for many years. She cathed people. She was the person.

Speaker 1:
[23:46] She was Rosenfeld?

Speaker 3:
[23:48] She would have been Rosenfeld, but she wouldn't have fucked it up like Rosenfeld does. She was an A-plus catheter.

Speaker 1:
[23:54] Is the catheter fucked up on top of everything else that gets fucked up for this poor guy?

Speaker 3:
[23:58] Well, she's like, who cathed this guy as if somebody fucked it up?

Speaker 5:
[24:01] Oh, got it, got it, got it.

Speaker 1:
[24:04] Yeah, they do the surgery. The dude, I guess, tentatively makes it through. We got a gag about, oh no, I'm missing a sponge. I'm like, what is this hospital, dude? Great question. We're having too much fun. Take me fucking anywhere else. Holy God. And, but like, she walks out to wash up. I don't know, it's a little, a little blase for my taste. Like, watch the man get sewn up, you know, make sure everything's okay. Yeah, dude, she's walking out like, like when, when the team thinks they've won the big game, but there's still 30 seconds on the clock and someone fucking nails a nasty ass three. Fuck some, yeah, this is what happens here.

Speaker 3:
[24:44] I'm very happy that the pit kind of dispelled a lot of these playful, like, this, the playing of music during surgery was kind of be like, you know, we have fun here. It's not all life and death. We have some music, y'all putting on some sugary here. Here we go. Listen to some sugary while I cut somebody open.

Speaker 2:
[25:02] Some people, you know, I'm sure some doctors do that because it's like taking out the trash. You know, it's just any other goddamn job day in and day out. You don't want to deal with this crap.

Speaker 1:
[25:12] Well, it's also supposedly like a concentration thing I've heard.

Speaker 3:
[25:15] You know, it's to it's a lesson to stress. Like it's to make it feel like it's not life and death. That's mainly the reason to do it because it's not for them.

Speaker 1:
[25:22] But Dr. Strange, he was another doctor that enjoyed operating to music. Hey, play whatever we got the license for. That's right. Be Dr. Strange. What pop song will make this poppier? I wonder if it might be some cool guitar driven Jack White tunes or something.

Speaker 3:
[25:40] How about some how some disco tech music? I like that chic band. It's getting chic in here.

Speaker 1:
[25:46] But this dude dies. Yeah, yeah, totally dies. She goes back, they're like, hey, would you want to come back in here and maybe finish the job? Yes. She tries to resuscitate this guy full on, like I'm holding the dude's heart, like massaging it. I think she sees Cage for a second or possibly he sees her. That's the big, the meat, as cute as it would be.

Speaker 2:
[26:08] He likes what he sees.

Speaker 1:
[26:09] It's a weird, I think she just looks up and she's supposed to be staring at a monitor or something. And he's like, Oh, wait, me?

Speaker 5:
[26:16] You, wait, you're looking at me?

Speaker 4:
[26:18] Is that you look me?

Speaker 3:
[26:20] Oh, I didn't tell you you could do that. I usually tell them they can do that. Oh, don't, don't look. I have to put on my face.

Speaker 1:
[26:26] Dude, you've got some really nasty, like Meg Ryan, hot shot surge and shit right here too. Cause like, I think it's the People Magazine reader. He's like, uh, he's going. And Meg Ryan's just like, he's not going anywhere. Instantly dead. So she has to go, like the family's having a nice time in the waiting room, cause apparently this wasn't a big deal of a surgery. Yeah. And she's just like, yep, we lost them. What do you want from me? And like their Devo, the mother, by the way, Deidre O'Connell had a great year.

Speaker 3:
[26:55] Hell yeah.

Speaker 1:
[26:56] Yeah. Penguin mom. Yeah, the Penguin mom, also from Eddington, great in Eddington as well.

Speaker 3:
[27:00] Oh yeah, I didn't even think, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:02] The, the, the, the palling around in the waiting room, it must have been a thing where it was like, someone had told them like, it's not that big of a deal because we hear on the way in what happened, the guy collapsed jogging. Like, I'm sorry, if someone collapses while they're exercising, they have to go to the hospital. I'm not fucking joking around in the waiting room. For fucking heart surgery, not so much, but she's just like, yep, he's dead. Oh, and like, you know, I guess, I guess this is to show that she needs to learn something or something.

Speaker 6:
[27:32] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[27:32] I don't get it.

Speaker 2:
[27:34] She needs to learn to feel, and she needs this angel to come down from heaven to teach her what that is about.

Speaker 1:
[27:40] Glass those back walls. Yeah, that's for sure.

Speaker 6:
[27:42] None of that fucking matters when she pancakes her fucking face against a logging truck. No.

Speaker 1:
[27:49] It matters nothing what this woman learns in this movie. Isn't that what life is, Andrew? So fleeting. Don't you understand?

Speaker 2:
[27:55] Fleeting. Yeah, it's true. Maybe, see, she looked away for a second and then hit that truck. She looked away for a second and cut this guy's heart open or whatever the happened.

Speaker 1:
[28:04] But she cries in the stairway here afterwards and Cage is like, it's okay, it's all right. And this is, we haven't said this yet, but just like the original film, angels can read everybody's thoughts. So she's just sitting there but thinking like, I'm so sorry, it was a textbook operation, the room got so big and I got so small. She thinks to herself.

Speaker 3:
[28:26] No, no, no, no, no, no. None of this. Get it away. I don't like it.

Speaker 1:
[28:30] We cut to a much more interesting movie, which is Seth and Cassiel cooling temperatures at this liquor store robbery. Didn't even need Stephen Seagal to fix this shit. No one got killed here. Nary a Robocop to be found.

Speaker 3:
[28:47] I'm not even seeing some crashed bottles. You can't even get me a little clink, clank, crash on the block. I'm fine.

Speaker 1:
[28:52] Yeah, nothing here. It is one of those things though, when you notice that the angels calm the people down. They stopped us from turning into, again, a Robocop-esque bloodbath. Then you're like, when this guy is watching this lady finger herself in a little bit, you're like, couldn't he be doing something else? Couldn't you be stopping a double homicide, a murder-suicide? It's Los Angeles, man. I'm sure there's another liquor store being robbed right now.

Speaker 3:
[29:19] What are you telling me is more important than watching Meg Ryan finger herself?

Speaker 1:
[29:25] Come on now. I mean, I'd be taking the night off too, Kevin.

Speaker 3:
[29:29] Kick back, have some Angel beer, you're fine.

Speaker 2:
[29:32] Well, let her prove this. This is so weird just to watch her.

Speaker 1:
[29:38] But yes, it's very clear that the Angels can affect human life if they touch them and bring them to a sense of calmness, I guess. Yeah, we do get a couple more. Andre Braugher lists out some rules here because Cage is like, can people see us? Have you ever been seen by someone that's not a child or a dog or a dying person? And Andre Braugher is like, well, they only see if you want them to, so that's a little nugget put away there.

Speaker 2:
[30:08] Which is cool. You could scare the shit out of people. I would just appear to people in the middle of the road while a bus is coming.

Speaker 1:
[30:15] And do a bunch of jump scares, like someone's just alone in their house, and just go, bah! And then get out.

Speaker 2:
[30:20] Absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[30:23] The guy who is working the register at the liquor store is the guy who plays the head SWAT commando in Christmas Vacation when they break into the house at the S. And he also gives Brian Doyle Murray, she's like, man, Mr. That is low, or whatever he says to him. I would be, if I had a rubber hose right now, and you saw it and so forth. I said I gave it back.

Speaker 3:
[30:49] I never saw the Grand Canyon, I think he says, soon. I'm like, if that's my thought as I'm going out here, not like, oh my God, I love my wife, oh my God, I love my dogs, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1:
[31:00] Okay, okay, wait.

Speaker 2:
[31:01] The Grand Canyon is very special.

Speaker 3:
[31:02] I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is.

Speaker 1:
[31:04] I'll tell you this, dude, the Majesty of the Grand Canyon, I understand what you're saying, Chris, but the Majesty of the Grand Canyon at least beats the woman who's thinking, I should have gone to Ralph's instead. Should have gone to the grocery store instead of this convenience store.

Speaker 3:
[31:16] She's trying to get one off. She's having to joke to herself. And that's how, if that's how I leave this world, sure, I deserve it.

Speaker 2:
[31:22] Also, I hate that the non-consensual reading of minds. Get out of there. You're not going to like what you find.

Speaker 3:
[31:28] Well, he doesn't get to, excuse me if I'm wrong, he can't read, can he?

Speaker 1:
[31:33] I was just wondering about can they read? I think it's an over thought, yeah, it's an overhearing of thoughts.

Speaker 3:
[31:38] Yeah, so he couldn't read a book. He can only do that as a human being. So what else do you got, Eric? That's just like the one entertainment you have is hearing people's thoughts.

Speaker 2:
[31:48] The entertainment, my god, with these so-called angels. These are supposed to be the good guys. I'm entertainment to them.

Speaker 3:
[31:54] Yes, yeah, you are.

Speaker 2:
[31:55] It makes me sick.

Speaker 1:
[31:57] It is also, it does sort of change things when occasionally they can get horny. They're not always horny, but apparently occasionally they can be. Like if you're super hot fingering yourself, someone's like, say, you know? But it's that weird, and that's what's weird about this movie, right? It's like, he's watching that fucking flick sesh, and I mean, well done if you can get tickets to the event. That's great.

Speaker 2:
[32:21] She should be selling the tickets is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:
[32:23] But I feel like as an angel, it's kind of like he's like an alien sort of thing where it's like, he shouldn't exactly know what she's doing, kind of like, what is happening to me? Yes.

Speaker 3:
[32:35] We're giving that to him kind of. We're laying that on him. He's just curious.

Speaker 1:
[32:40] Or even being above it, like, oh, that's what they do. You know, oh, they're just doing that again.

Speaker 2:
[32:44] Yes, he should be above it. Also, if he doesn't have genitalia, we need to get that out of the way immediately. We should just, we should know somehow.

Speaker 1:
[32:53] Hey, Castiel, isn't it weird that we don't have dicks?

Speaker 5:
[32:55] Yes, it is weird we don't have dicks.

Speaker 2:
[32:56] Thank you, that's perfect. Yes, I mean, and then why was, why is he getting so enamored with her?

Speaker 1:
[33:03] FYI, when you fall, you get a big old schvanz like I did. It popped out like an outy belly button, but it turned into a penis, you understand?

Speaker 2:
[33:13] Oh, very cool.

Speaker 3:
[33:14] Teresa calls it the old swinger. She likes it when I whip it around in a circle.

Speaker 1:
[33:20] I was falling from the heavens, and then all of a sudden it looked like my pelvis was giving a thumbs up.

Speaker 2:
[33:25] Yeah, I'm Lucifer, and this is my morning star.

Speaker 1:
[33:32] So the next morning, Dr. Maggie has another surgery that she's going to get to, but, uh-oh, shitty boyfriend Colm Feore is like, hey, I told your boss that you've got mental problems, and we pushed this surgery for you. Also in Cage's face-off as the doctor, he's doing the face-off surgery. Oh, fuck, you're totally right, oh, wow, that's awesome. I'm due for a re-watch, man, it's been a while me and face-off.

Speaker 3:
[33:58] Wonderful movie.

Speaker 1:
[34:00] But yeah, so this, the failed surgery, such as it was from the day before, is like under review, and Feore's like, oh, don't worry, like, you're not at fault, we've got great insurance here. And they're gonna push it to Monday, and that happens to be Dennis Franz's surgery. Dennis Franz, by the way, really clear, just to keep in mind, he needs heart surgery. I want to be really clear about what, later in the film, he has had heart surgery.

Speaker 3:
[34:26] Correct.

Speaker 5:
[34:27] Right, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[34:29] Pretty awesome thing. She's like, we fight for people's lives, but don't you ever wonder who we're fighting with? And he's like, not really. Yeah. Oh shit, maybe she does have mental problems. We do realize that she is an insomniac, because something like, I was going to come over, I wanted to sleep, you never sleep when I'm there anyway, or some such thing, this lady's got some sleep issues. Exactly, yeah. But it is funny, because he does throw out a why didn't you call me or whatever, and awesome Cage reactions. This movie is him just staring eerily or otherwise, and when he, the angel, realizes that they're kind of shooping one another here, he kind of does like the dog head tilt, like, oh, oh, they're together, oh. It's very funny. That's my girlfriend. If that guy's getting mugged, I'm not going to put my hand on that other guy's back so he gets murdered. Because I'm a jealous angel.

Speaker 2:
[35:30] I've seen that head tilt before when Two Lovers are around. It was done by Michael Myers.

Speaker 3:
[35:37] What a sweetie.

Speaker 1:
[35:38] He is creepy as hell. He's trying to be naïve and innocent, but with the cagedness, it's just too much.

Speaker 2:
[35:50] It's creepy, man. It's fucking weird.

Speaker 3:
[35:52] It is because you're trying to play the romance element. But what he's playing completely is the curious alien angel thing. He's not thinking about the romance or the comedy of it really, and that's the issue.

Speaker 2:
[36:04] I just realized a face-off thing here. Who played the better angel? Michael, John Travolta, Seth, City of Angels.

Speaker 1:
[36:13] Wow, they both played angels.

Speaker 2:
[36:15] That's right. Wasn't he an angel in that, or was he just a weird fellow?

Speaker 3:
[36:18] No, he's the angel.

Speaker 1:
[36:19] Michael is the angel Michael.

Speaker 3:
[36:20] Seth is the more like, in a different movie, I think his performance would work. Michael, it's too much jubilant. I can't deal with him.

Speaker 1:
[36:30] I've never seen Michael. Is there a scene where John Travolta finds out what cake is or something? No, he's just eaten it.

Speaker 3:
[36:35] He's already done it. He's already gotten all that.

Speaker 1:
[36:37] He's kind of fattened that movie. Oh, is it like, oh, my angel days are behind me. I retired to this small town in Oklahoma or whatever. Yeah, and he's just eaten big steaks and the whole thing. Ooh.

Speaker 3:
[36:47] Cigarettes. There's lots of cigarettes on him.

Speaker 1:
[36:50] But it's phenomenon is where it turns out he's just got a brain tumor and dies. Yes, but it also might be aliens, too.

Speaker 3:
[36:57] They think for a bit. They think for a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[36:59] I mean, Michael is an episode. Phenomenon is an episode. I was just going to say, I just realized we got a couple of Travolta's on the table here we haven't thought about putting in the kitchen. Some Travolta's for the table also. And you could do it for the, what do you call it there, for the WLM of a Travolta themed month blowout and have fucking Dennis Franz in that picture. Oh shit, he plays a magnificent scumbag in that movie. I'm a pimp or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[37:23] And he's got the line like, this is going to be bigger than this, a Brüder film.

Speaker 1:
[37:26] Yes, he does. He fucking totally does, dude.

Speaker 3:
[37:30] Sorry, sorry. I asked for the Travolta's were supposed to be fried, not grilled. Oh, I'm sorry. I wouldn't, but I just prefer it that way.

Speaker 1:
[37:37] Yeah, we're better with charcoal. Yeah. Squeeze a lemon, sir. We go to, I guess, which is like, duh, everybody knows this is the sick angel hangout, the library. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[37:52] Of course.

Speaker 1:
[37:53] Which is from the first, which is from Wings of Desire. It is from the first one. They even kind of have the similar old timer here who is reading something else in the other movie, I think.

Speaker 3:
[38:01] Yeah. Amy Brenneman is here for some reason. For one second, I was like dumbfounded.

Speaker 6:
[38:06] Is it actually Amy Brenneman?

Speaker 3:
[38:07] It's actually Amy Brenneman. She's the first angel when you come in and they're going through the computers, she's the first one you see.

Speaker 1:
[38:14] I thought it was. That's interesting. Yeah, that makes sense. There's also a-

Speaker 3:
[38:18] Did she get cut? Maybe she got cut.

Speaker 1:
[38:19] I don't know. Possibly. Michael Mann is in this movie, apparently, according to IMDB. Yes, hold on, I'll pull it up. When Cage is at a bar smoking next to a guy who's also smoking, that's Michael Mann.

Speaker 3:
[38:36] That's Michael Mann?

Speaker 4:
[38:37] That's what the trivia says.

Speaker 1:
[38:38] Yes, that's the IMDB trivia. But yeah, the old man is reading, Ernest Hemingway's A Movable Feast. And I guess, yeah, so he can't read, but if you're sitting next to someone who's reading, reading over their shoulder, you could hear it. He does the hand thing, though. This is some Star Trek shit. He puts his fucking hand over the cover of The Movable Feast. And that, to me, gleans like he's read it, because then he's fucking quoting it later to Meg Ryan. Yeah. Which is weird. By the way, Chris Cabin, you are correct. I found it. The ass end of the IMDB cast page. Amy Brennan credited, or I guess uncredited, technically, Angel in Library at Computers.

Speaker 3:
[39:18] Crazy. And that's funny, because of the Michael Mann connection. She was just doing heat with him.

Speaker 1:
[39:22] Exactly. Very bizarre. It would have been cool to have her have some lines, like a female angel. You barely see, I mean, I don't remember in Wings of Desire, if there are female angels, there probably are, but I don't know. But it would be cool to see a female angel in this movie for even two seconds.

Speaker 3:
[39:36] That'd be great. I would love that.

Speaker 1:
[39:37] Are there not some lady angels on the beach? There probably are. You mean with lines and whatnot? Yeah, have some substance to them would be the thing. Sure, yeah. Never read A Movable Feast. That's like him looking back on his life in Paris, right? I believe so. Yeah, it's pretty good. I never could tell if I was a man enough to read Ernest Hemingway.

Speaker 3:
[39:59] I do find it funny though that like Hemingway is the like, that's the author they pick for these like genteel, otherworldly creatures. Ernest Hemingway, sure, I guess.

Speaker 1:
[40:08] I guess it's a sensualist kind of a scenario, but.

Speaker 3:
[40:12] If it's all about the fucking food, maybe he should be listening to Action Bronson all the time.

Speaker 4:
[40:17] Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[40:18] All food. All so much food. Thank you, Bob. Fuck.

Speaker 1:
[40:21] That's delicious. I'm still a few years away from cooking shows. Honestly, I'd probably think it's a thing where it's like regardless of having read the literature, you've heard the name Ernest Hemingway so that when you show it, all the fucking slow Joes of the back row can be like, Garsh, we heard of that guy.

Speaker 2:
[40:40] Oh, smart guy stuff.

Speaker 1:
[40:42] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6:
[40:43] But this is where we meet him.

Speaker 1:
[40:45] Here's Dennis Franz introducing this movie, eating ice cream in a hospital bed.

Speaker 2:
[40:50] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[40:50] My guy right there.

Speaker 2:
[40:51] Do you want to get well or do you want Ben and Jerry?

Speaker 1:
[40:55] You know what, sweetheart, if you did your surgery yesterday, I'd be sucking carrots up a fucking straw in my arm or whatever the fuck you're gonna do.

Speaker 3:
[41:04] I'd be eating the bacon, but the carrots would be getting up in there through the straw right there. But I'd be chomping down to bacon, of course.

Speaker 1:
[41:10] It's kind of amazing that that is how he is talking to this woman, very like how you would assume a Dennis Franz character would speak, right? But then you learn that he's like this angel that has previously had knowledge of everything and experienced everything and this, that, and the other thing. And I'm like, now I see what you look like when you go fucking treat waitstaff at an Applebee's, asshole.

Speaker 2:
[41:36] I mean, he's with, you know, he says like, oh, like, I'm not the procedure. This is my name. And then she just walks out of the room. She has terrible bedside manner. He's fine being a little rude.

Speaker 3:
[41:47] I don't think he's that rude. It's fine. He's he's a little a little a little annoyed.

Speaker 5:
[41:50] If your stupid ass had done the surgery correctly, but you fucking fumbled the ball on the one yard line, you dumbass.

Speaker 3:
[41:58] Have I ever told my Dennis Franz story?

Speaker 1:
[42:00] Oh, no, I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[42:02] So Dennis Franz, I went me and Soph went to see Inherent Vice maybe like two weeks before it came out. There was a screening and I got it. Like last minute is Dennis Franz and his wife come in and like are like shuffling behind people. And I'm like, oh my God, it's Dennis Franz. It was a movie. And like they're kind of shattering a little bit. Like, oh man, just show the little traffic. I'm not kidding you. Thirty minutes into this movie, he's like, we got to get the fuck out of here. Just gets up and shuffles his way out. He was not having it. He did not enjoy the film. And the wife was right there with him.

Speaker 1:
[42:43] Yeah, we're getting out of here, honestly.

Speaker 3:
[42:46] What is this? Is this a drug comedy? They like those now, I guess.

Speaker 4:
[42:51] Wow, jeez.

Speaker 2:
[42:52] You know, I was hoping he'd be more of a cinephile.

Speaker 3:
[42:55] No, no, no, he was not having it. I mean, maybe he came around. I assume he liked One Bad After Another.

Speaker 5:
[43:00] That would be, you know.

Speaker 2:
[43:01] Yes, of course.

Speaker 1:
[43:02] Linda, I told you that the fucking dinner was gonna make me too jammed up and I wouldn't be able to sit through a two hour and 40 minute movie.

Speaker 5:
[43:09] Now look what's happening.

Speaker 1:
[43:10] We gotta leave. The lights are already down and I gotta take a shit at home. It's all that gnocchi. I keep eating the gnocchi. It really gums me up insane.

Speaker 3:
[43:18] If I don't shit now, I'm not gonna shit, hon. It's one or the other. So we gotta get right out of here right now.

Speaker 2:
[43:24] Yeah, in his defense, maybe it was a shit scenario or a sickness scenario.

Speaker 1:
[43:29] He's an older guy, dude.

Speaker 3:
[43:30] Possible.

Speaker 2:
[43:31] I went to a retro of Raiders of the Lost Ark once and I started feeling very ill almost immediately and I got up and left. Hopefully no one's like, that Eric Szyszka hates Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Speaker 3:
[43:44] That's what they've all been saying, Eric. All over the place they've been saying, oh, he hates it.

Speaker 4:
[43:47] Dude, you should have, when was this by the way?

Speaker 2:
[43:49] Oh shit, this was like 2016, 2017.

Speaker 1:
[43:55] Okay, so in letterboxed time. So what I would have done, because I would have thought the same thing, dude, I would have been, I'd go to letterbox and be like five star rating. Hey, if anyone saw me leaving the screening today, because the New York repertory scene is a very small, but robust community. If anyone saw me leaving the screening, trust me, I love Raiders of the Lost Ark, I just had to take a shit and daddy's got to do that at home.

Speaker 2:
[44:18] Right, yes. Well, I didn't do Letterbox until a little later than that. So I should go back and look if there's any reviews referencing me.

Speaker 6:
[44:29] How dare he leave?

Speaker 3:
[44:31] That son of a bitch. Oh, these people who hate Spielberg, they're just so up their own ass, you know?

Speaker 1:
[44:36] Oh, by the way, Dennis Franz's wife, Mrs. Messenger, played by Joanna Merlin, who you may recognize as a judge on SVU, I think 50 different times. I'm sure she was. She was mostly an SVU gal, but she was on some of the others playing, I think, the same judge.

Speaker 2:
[44:51] What was that last name again?

Speaker 5:
[44:52] Merlin.

Speaker 1:
[44:53] Merlin, just like the magician.

Speaker 2:
[44:54] That's like a cartoon character. That's not a real name.

Speaker 1:
[44:57] I don't talk to her, dude.

Speaker 5:
[44:58] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[44:59] Also rounding out the cast, Robin Bartlett of Mad About You and Inside Lewin Davis plays like the pediatrician, her pediatrician friend.

Speaker 2:
[45:09] You're right, because we go to baby jail now.

Speaker 1:
[45:11] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[45:11] We got all the babies in these cages.

Speaker 1:
[45:14] It's great because it's very funny because Meg Ryan loses a full grown adult man, and she's very sad about it. She's like, oh man, I should have got into pediatrics. Robin Bartlett is like, no, you know how hard it is to lose a baby, and I'm losing babies like that sister. Left and right. It sounds like. It's funny thinking about the devastation that this Meg Ryan character is feeling for losing this. I'm not saying it ever gets easier for doctors and surgeons or whatever to lose patients, but the way that she crumbles like this. I'm like, was this the first time it happened? Like, how long has this character been a doctor? Because she seems so surprised by the notion that she could even think about losing a patient.

Speaker 2:
[45:59] Aren't they all desensitized? They're all desensitized this? It's like, fine. It's like, what's for lunch type of thing?

Speaker 3:
[46:06] At least the males tend to be very macho to block all that out. And I just like, yeah, I don't understand why. I would like to know how long she's been doing this and how long she's been here.

Speaker 1:
[46:16] Or if this is a big one or...

Speaker 3:
[46:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[46:18] That would be nice. Even if Colm Feore is like, listen, we've lost patients for it. What makes this one special? Even if she's like, I don't know, damn it. That would be something. You're totally right, Steve. But it has to be addressed in some way. Because you're right, Eric. They do train to sort of remove the emotion from it. Because there's no way you could do this job if you can't do that. But that's why I'm like, was this the first time? What is going on? Does she think that this dude looked like a beloved uncle of hers that passed away also? Whatever it is, it's got to be something.

Speaker 2:
[46:45] You got to do that day in and day out. I remove the emotion from doing podcasts.

Speaker 1:
[46:50] You have to.

Speaker 2:
[46:51] In and out. If one dies, that's fine.

Speaker 1:
[46:55] When she goes into the maternity ward and is just sitting there, it's this weird moment where she closes her eyes and she's kind of just sort of spacing out. I was like, she's acting as if she's listening to a symphony over the speakers or something. I was like, how is a maternity ward the place where you're chilling out? This is the quietest maternity ward of all time. There's not a single crying baby in this thing.

Speaker 3:
[47:20] Well, no, there's one that is won't shut the fuck up. I'll tell you that much. There's the one they found in a dumpster behind a house of pies, which is quite something.

Speaker 1:
[47:31] Maybe an angel shouldn't have been watching someone fucking jack off and put a hand on the back of the mother before she chucked that baby. That's what I think. These pervert angels are like, oh, no, dude, this dude's got a dildo and is going to town on himself. I am going to watch this instead of whatever that lady's doing in the dumpster. That's boring shit. That's boring.

Speaker 2:
[47:51] I agree with you initially, but then you paint me that picture. I'm like, well, you got to watch that.

Speaker 1:
[47:56] I got to see how that turns out.

Speaker 3:
[47:59] No, yeah, technically, I can't touch the baby. I can't get the baby out of the dumpster. I'm sorry. They got to stay in the dumpster.

Speaker 1:
[48:05] And this is just the weird, like, she is at this crossroads, like professionally, personally, emotionally, mentally, all this stuff. And then it just cuts to Nicholas Cage just staring at this woman, like Count Orlok.

Speaker 4:
[48:19] And I'm like, how did they not realize how funny this is?

Speaker 1:
[48:23] It's just, it is, I'm sorry, like, I could not, I should say, I don't know about you guys, I'd never seen this before.

Speaker 2:
[48:29] Oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[48:29] I'd seen the Goo Goo Dolls video a thousand times, so I've seen clips of this movie a bunch, like, never before.

Speaker 2:
[48:35] Oh, I saw it in theaters, man.

Speaker 1:
[48:36] Oh, is that right?

Speaker 2:
[48:37] Of course. I was going to the movies every weekend, and Nicholas Cage, come on.

Speaker 1:
[48:42] I definitely watched it, we rented it as a family, I definitely saw it probably with everybody, is my guess. But it's just, I was blown away, I was like, this is so funny, and nobody talks about how funny this movie is. Because, I mean, like, in the Wings of Desire, like, Bruno Gans is kind of weird-looking, craggy, like, his stare is intense, but also, like, there's, it's compassionate and less, it's just significantly less weird.

Speaker 3:
[49:08] And the emotional register is just different. Like, it's not this high-end fucking, like, weepy shit. Yes, exactly. And they know that that's what they're doing here. In that movie, it's ponderous.

Speaker 1:
[49:19] Gans is able to telegraph a curiosity.

Speaker 2:
[49:23] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[49:24] That, I think Cage is also trying to play Seth as a curious person, but again, just with the eyes and, you know, it's just a vampire performance. It is.

Speaker 2:
[49:34] It is, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[49:35] And Silberling, I mean, I think it's also, the directing is just so off for what they want.

Speaker 6:
[49:40] Now, make your eyes wider.

Speaker 1:
[49:42] Make your eyes wider now, you see.

Speaker 6:
[49:44] Wider, wider than that.

Speaker 3:
[49:46] We're gonna make all these old bitches cry. I'm gonna tell you that much. Yeah, that's right. Brad Silberling is here to make these ladies cheer jerk.

Speaker 2:
[49:53] It does feel stilted and weird, and this is where Meg Ryan runs into him in the hallway, right?

Speaker 1:
[49:58] Yes, he's like Blair witching the elevator bank for some reason.

Speaker 2:
[50:02] That's creepy as fuck, to stare at the wall.

Speaker 6:
[50:04] It is, dude.

Speaker 1:
[50:06] And she sees him because he wants her to see him, and also in Wings of Desire, no one could ever see an angel. I think only the dying or something like that. Yeah, kids. Even Peter Falk doesn't see the angel. He's like, I know you're there, but I can't see you. And that's kind of a cool way to do it, but here he can reveal himself, and he's like, I'm a messenger, and what are visiting hours? Security, security, security.

Speaker 2:
[50:31] Exactly. Oh, David Koresh will come again.

Speaker 3:
[50:36] I don't know. Do you know how handsome he is and how hot he is? I mean, if he's that hot, I wouldn't be calling those security. Just want to see this guy do his job.

Speaker 1:
[50:44] Well, we are two minus three minutes from fingering ourselves in a bathtub, for sure.

Speaker 3:
[50:48] There we go.

Speaker 2:
[50:49] Yes, while we centrally drink a Rolling Rock.

Speaker 6:
[50:53] Dude, what are we doing?

Speaker 2:
[50:54] I love it.

Speaker 1:
[50:56] But like, yeah, like, oh, I was at work and this hot guy came up to me and just went, are you in despair? Yeah, like, okay. Either you're a serial killer, you're trying to recruit me from Scientology or another thing, but get the fuck out of my hospital, please.

Speaker 3:
[51:11] Well, yes, but that's beside the point, sir.

Speaker 1:
[51:14] Are you in despair? Would you like to be?

Speaker 5:
[51:16] Oh, stab, stab, stab.

Speaker 2:
[51:18] Well, you know, people die when their bodies give out.

Speaker 1:
[51:22] Yeah. Your patient is living, just not in the way you think.

Speaker 2:
[51:27] Security, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[51:28] And what I mean by that is, I'm doing a weekend at Bernie's thing with him.

Speaker 2:
[51:33] We're walking down the street with his corpse. I would love it.

Speaker 3:
[51:36] Get some reggae playing all the time.

Speaker 2:
[51:37] Chest cavity fully open.

Speaker 1:
[51:39] Hell yeah, dude. Speaking of chest, I've never seen an angel with this much visible chest hair than Nick Cage has going on.

Speaker 3:
[51:46] But it's nice, though.

Speaker 1:
[51:48] Earlier in the movie, it's like this weird wrap shirt that he's wearing that covers it all up. But when he reveals himself to Maggie here, it's a very slutty shirt showing off these pecs. You know what I mean? You're a strong breeze away from having a nipple come out here.

Speaker 2:
[52:06] What a little slut.

Speaker 1:
[52:07] And that's what sends her to the bathtub, which I believe is the next scene where she's got, and I love the telegraphing of the foot up on a claw tub. You know exactly what's going on. Absolutely. I will just say, though, it's double reason to celebrate because, yes, the Cage encounter happened, but also she has had the successful Dennis Franz surgery. Oh, right. Because he's in the surgery room listening to her thoughts. No dying, Mr. Messinger. Not until you give me Seth's phone number.

Speaker 2:
[52:39] He's doing a sexual espionage on this woman by reading her mind. She's into me. Nice. I also appreciate that she lit candles for this gooning session.

Speaker 1:
[52:50] Well, dude, yeah, it's a real night in, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3:
[52:54] Set the mood.

Speaker 1:
[52:56] She's making love to herself, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6:
[52:59] She's not just jacking off.

Speaker 1:
[53:00] This is a real taking your time with it. You've been thinking about doing this this way since two days ago.

Speaker 3:
[53:08] Let me just listen to your thoughts, really, Maggie. Dennis Franz. Dennis Franz eating a chicken sandwich.

Speaker 6:
[53:15] Oh, oh no. Oh, Maggie, no.

Speaker 1:
[53:18] Dude, but this, Eric already mentioned it, but the fucking, the fact that this is Rolling Rock and not just like some anonymous glass of wine, not that like a woman can't drink a beer, but just the glistening Rolling Rock positioned right towards the camera like a bad commercial. Is it like afterwards? Is it a post-masturbation? No, I think it's like, I think we're, you know, walking and chewing gum at the same time, dude.

Speaker 6:
[53:45] Plus, you got to empty out that bottle because, you know.

Speaker 2:
[53:48] Wet up both holes.

Speaker 1:
[53:49] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[53:50] I guess all holes, really.

Speaker 3:
[53:52] You're flicking and then you just let out a fucking ghastly burp in the middle of it. That would be really funny.

Speaker 1:
[53:59] Totally, dude. Yeah, this is Paula Cole's Feelin Love is playing right here. Oh, she's feelin love all right.

Speaker 3:
[54:05] Amazon. Amazon between my legs. My Christ.

Speaker 6:
[54:09] That rocks, dude. Wow.

Speaker 1:
[54:11] You think you, Elmer Dalturo, almost played this during, in the beginning of Shape of Water as well, with the egg timer?

Speaker 3:
[54:17] Shut up. Come on. Is this or is some Sade, at least? Christ.

Speaker 4:
[54:22] Play the song from my favorite movie remake, City of Angels.

Speaker 1:
[54:26] I do wonder, like, we can get a film series going where the lady's gilling off in a bathtub. We've got this, we've got Shape of Water.

Speaker 3:
[54:33] Sure.

Speaker 1:
[54:34] Oh, does it have to be a bathtub? I guess maybe. All right, so any master, any female master. Margot at the Wedding, Nicole Kidman? Oh, that's right.

Speaker 3:
[54:39] That's a wonderful one, yeah.

Speaker 6:
[54:41] A wonderful one.

Speaker 3:
[54:42] Right there. That's a good one.

Speaker 2:
[54:44] I only know the short films I've seen online.

Speaker 1:
[54:47] Oh, those seven, eight minute-ers? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[54:50] Well, you know, sometimes there are maybe 20 or 40.

Speaker 3:
[54:53] Eric's favorite distributor, Pornhub.

Speaker 2:
[54:57] Don't go spreading that.

Speaker 3:
[55:00] You've got to spread something.

Speaker 1:
[55:02] And like you do a lot of these, you know, I know I do this all the time. Like, I wake up from, like, a harrowing dream, and I'm like, oh, boy, glad to be back amongst the land of the living. Oh, it's three o'clock in the morning? Let's start a book for no reason. Let's start a book that I didn't, that should not be in my house. This is some conjuring shit. You wake, you go to sleep and you wake up, but there's a fucking book in your house that you didn't bring there, fucking creepy.

Speaker 5:
[55:26] Right, it's like, the dead brought it.

Speaker 3:
[55:30] This is a bad wreck, the dead.

Speaker 1:
[55:34] She even has some line to Colm Feore at some point in a minute, like, oh, you left your book at my house, and he's like, I didn't put that fucking book there, and she is not appropriately creeped out.

Speaker 3:
[55:43] That's the thing, I don't think I would know if, like, if it was like the bedside, sure, that would make sense, but like, I just, I don't think I would not know, like, there's plenty of books in my house that if I saw, like, I don't know if I own that. I don't know if that's mine, maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[55:59] But it's just right on your bedside table, very creepy, very weird. And especially, that is when, if you play the music differently, when Colm Feore says, I didn't leave that book, it's like, da, da, da. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[56:11] I like the vibe Dr. Boyfriend has right here. He's smoking a cigarette while playing basketball on the ER helipad.

Speaker 1:
[56:18] Well, this is, I guess this is showing you the difference between them, because he's like, yeah, I lost somebody, he's not too bummed about it. Right, yeah, he's practicing his fucking, practicing his fade away jumper instead. So she goes to the library, because also that's like, it's a library book.

Speaker 2:
[56:33] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[56:33] She takes the book back to the library and she's like, oh, can you let me know who took this out? Like I found it. And the guy at the desk is like, well, I can't tell you that, but I could tell you when. She's like, oh, okay. And he goes, give me five minutes. I was like, you need five minutes to look this up. That's insane. I don't know, man. How about just a tip tap?

Speaker 2:
[56:51] Do we ever check back in on that? Nope. So not at all.

Speaker 3:
[56:55] I was waiting for her to do the George Costanza and Patton Oswalt and just like, come on.

Speaker 2:
[56:59] It should be like, it was never taken out.

Speaker 1:
[57:02] Oh, yeah, exactly. And also, so he could move, I guess, he wanted himself to be seen by that book so he could move it around. I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[57:11] Do inanimate objects count?

Speaker 1:
[57:14] That's a great question.

Speaker 3:
[57:15] I have no idea.

Speaker 1:
[57:17] I think you can manipulate objects.

Speaker 3:
[57:18] Sure, that makes sense.

Speaker 1:
[57:20] If you could manipulate objects, again, like take the bullets out of the gun before the guy goes into the fucking store.

Speaker 2:
[57:26] He's busy doing the whole no human, no human being would arrange books like this.

Speaker 3:
[57:33] Well, yeah, because we know he can move because when he does the mix, the salad, he's trying to make the salad.

Speaker 1:
[57:37] We'll talk about that salad.

Speaker 2:
[57:39] Yes, we will. That's so he's at the library here.

Speaker 1:
[57:43] Yes, Seth appears to her in the library and like Andre Braugher and the rest of these angels are like watching her like walk around the library or whatever. It's creepy, dude. Again, it's like, no, no, hey, no.

Speaker 2:
[57:59] How long has Nick Cage been alive as an angel?

Speaker 3:
[58:02] Oh, we're going to get to age gap. We're going to do age gap.

Speaker 1:
[58:04] It is actually. This is what we're going to do.

Speaker 2:
[58:07] No, it's not. You guys, it's not age gap. That was in my notes.

Speaker 4:
[58:11] No, it's not age gap.

Speaker 2:
[58:12] Dick Gap. Is this the first one? You know what I mean? Yeah, fair.

Speaker 1:
[58:17] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3:
[58:18] I think so. He doesn't seem to have any recollections of another person who felt this way about.

Speaker 2:
[58:24] Five thousand years or whatever it is to find the one.

Speaker 1:
[58:29] I mean, it's Meg Ryan, dude. Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[58:32] And I mean, have you met some of the younger men in America?

Speaker 6:
[58:36] Five thousand. I bet you would take ten thousand.

Speaker 2:
[58:41] Yes, that's fair. Some of these fellas on the internet aren't having a lot of luck, huh?

Speaker 3:
[58:44] Pretty tough.

Speaker 1:
[58:49] In the original, I think the two of them have some line back and forth about like, we were here before Berlin was Berlin, and we were here before people existed, or if we're talking about that, then it's like they've been here since the original plan.

Speaker 2:
[59:02] But that's weird, right? Like we were here before people existed, and now you see a person and you eventually want to fuck it. It's like seeing, I was alive before dogs were here. Oh, there's a dog. I want to fuck that.

Speaker 3:
[59:13] You think that's just the same thing right there?

Speaker 2:
[59:14] It's not a wonder one.

Speaker 1:
[59:15] They're different species.

Speaker 2:
[59:16] Thank you, they're different species.

Speaker 4:
[59:18] They're humanoids at least, though.

Speaker 2:
[59:20] Dr. Boyfriend has that line when he wants to get married later, we're the same species, which clearly these, Nick Cage is a different animal altogether.

Speaker 1:
[59:30] By the way, great thing to toss into your fucking proposal. We're the same species, might as well get hitched. What a fucking loser. Absolutely. Oh, do you like a beautiful feast?

Speaker 5:
[59:41] I left it at your house last night. Hope you're not weirded out by that. Read it to me. Read it to me. You know when you were coming last night, I thought you might like this book afterwards.

Speaker 1:
[59:54] And unbeknownst to him, he's reciting one of the sexier passages of this book, because it's all about talking about fucking eating oysters and drinking wine and whatnot. I lost the empty feeling and began to feel happy.

Speaker 4:
[60:10] Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[60:11] Let's go to the- I'm not doing it for you. Well, I also love they go to the- they wind up like- it's like a long meet-cute date. They go to the fucking farmer's market or whatever. And as- There was a montage of them shopping for fruit. Okay. And as they're walking out, all the angels are like- should be like pointing like in the fucking omen, like, no, defiler!

Speaker 3:
[60:31] Outlander!

Speaker 1:
[60:33] But this is like the whole pear sequence.

Speaker 5:
[60:38] I could eat a pear for hours.

Speaker 1:
[60:40] Dude, I thought the same fucking thing.

Speaker 6:
[60:42] Oh, I was saying it too.

Speaker 2:
[60:44] Describe it to me. Describe it like Hemingway. You know, I don't know what a pear tastes like to you.

Speaker 1:
[60:49] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[60:51] She's like, oh, it's like sugar sand. Oh, perfect.

Speaker 1:
[60:55] Yummy. I know this guy's eerie and sexy and stuff, but again, before you go to a second location, or as you're going to that second location, so what's your last name? What do you do? Do you live around here? Do you got a roommate, a wife? What's going on? Like, these are questions human beings ask, even when someone is so unearthly sexy.

Speaker 5:
[61:14] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[61:16] You know, I'm sure someone asked David Bowie where he was from, you know, he's got to do it.

Speaker 1:
[61:22] But so she takes him to the hospital, second part of this date, come to work with me, okay. And this is weird, she's like, oh, you want to know like how I first want to become a doctor? I'm just going to need some of your blood. And he's like, oh, I don't have that. Judy goes, that's not going to be a possibility.

Speaker 3:
[61:46] Let me just go into this fridge you have here.

Speaker 5:
[61:48] Just get out of the way, get the fuck out of the way.

Speaker 3:
[61:50] Oh, here's a little packet of blood. I did it already. I pre-did it for you.

Speaker 2:
[61:54] Wow, you're pre-menopausal.

Speaker 1:
[61:58] They do later on when like him and Andre Braugher are going back and forth, which I think is another like riff on Wings of Desire is like, you know, things that wouldn't be cool if we could like just, you know, do this as human beings, like eat food, you know, see your reflection, whatever the list is. One of them is lying, which means that these things cannot lie, which the movie breaks that law at least twice.

Speaker 3:
[62:21] It's pretty great. I mean, a few times I would say. So this could have turned into a liar-liar situation, which I would have preferred, honestly.

Speaker 2:
[62:28] Of course, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[62:28] Dude, if this movie ended with Nicholas Cage beating himself up in a bathroom.

Speaker 4:
[62:33] I'm kicking my ass.

Speaker 2:
[62:34] Right, a courtroom scene that's conducted by, I don't know, St. Peter.

Speaker 3:
[62:40] Fantastic.

Speaker 1:
[62:41] So she puts her blood down under this microscope and she's like, that's me, those cells, that's me.

Speaker 6:
[62:47] And he's like, weird.

Speaker 1:
[62:48] I have no understanding of any of this.

Speaker 3:
[62:50] What are you talking about? I have no idea what you're doing. What are you saying to me right now?

Speaker 1:
[62:54] Dude, but then what he says here, again, big red flag, he's like, but so how do you explain the enduring myth of heaven? And I'd be like, oh man, is this, did I bag a fucking super religious guy?

Speaker 2:
[63:08] God damn it. He sounds like a cult member.

Speaker 1:
[63:11] You don't have a pamphlet in that enormous jacket, do you? Cause I do not want whatever pamphlet it is. No, I don't have a pamphlet. I have many pamphlets.

Speaker 2:
[63:19] And they're about how the Hellbop Comet is coming by.

Speaker 1:
[63:23] Oh hell yeah, dude. This was right around the time, I think.

Speaker 2:
[63:25] I think so. Yeah, it's heaven's gate. It's fantastic.

Speaker 3:
[63:29] Didn't I tell you I'm a messenger from God? It's a normal thing to be. It's a very normal thing to be.

Speaker 1:
[63:34] Isn't the same messenger, doesn't he say something about being beeped? Isn't there some beeping conversation?

Speaker 2:
[63:39] Because she gets beeped. It's like a doctor joke, like a 90s doctor thing. Well, if I got your message, I guess you would have had to have beeped it to me. Oh, you've definitely been beeped.

Speaker 1:
[63:49] Yes, that's right. You've definitely been beeped.

Speaker 5:
[63:52] Oh, I'm beeping you right now.

Speaker 2:
[63:53] I think he thinks that means like the masturbating tub.

Speaker 1:
[63:57] Oh yeah, you were beepin off last night. Right after you chugged that Rolling Rock.

Speaker 2:
[64:04] With that swirl thing you did, you did a round, yeah, you did your rounds.

Speaker 6:
[64:09] Counterclockwise swirl. You got beeped and you did your rounds.

Speaker 1:
[64:12] Casio, is it wrong for me to watch women beep themselves?

Speaker 3:
[64:16] What's beeping?

Speaker 5:
[64:18] I do it all the time. Oh, Seth, do you mean masturbating?

Speaker 1:
[64:22] No, that's fine. Oh, Seth, you're such a young angel. You know, actually, I saw some guy with a dildo go ham on himself yesterday. That was fantastic. Dude, major alien moment here when he just goes, what happens when you cry? Oh, come on.

Speaker 6:
[64:40] Dude, get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2:
[64:42] You've been alive 5,000 years, you've seen someone cry.

Speaker 1:
[64:45] You've figured that shit out, dude. Yeah, but she does get beeped right here, and it's amazing because she starts treating him like the dog that he is. It's like, oh, stay right there, you stay, stay, I'm getting beeped, you stay, stay. Well, again, because you forgot to ask him anything about himself, where he works, what's his phone number, blah, blah, blah. Like these are, look, because even if she asked and he was like cagey about it, ah, then we could say like, oh, she at least asked, you know what I mean? Right, yeah, exactly. But she gets beeped, by the way, because Dennis Franz is fucking choking on something, that honestly, this seems like a thing, this nurse should be able to be like, oh, that's what's doing it. Instead, this nurse is just sitting there like, I just don't know what's going on. He's just choking for some reason. Like Meg Ryan has to come in and sort of like free up his airway or whatever. And he's like, oh, yeah, that's much better there. That's now I can get the cigar back down there.

Speaker 2:
[65:40] The tube or something was like locking his airway. I imagine he tried to eat it.

Speaker 1:
[65:44] Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 3:
[65:46] Well, he goes that's what he does. He leaves to go eat. I mean, that's right after this, right?

Speaker 1:
[65:50] Sorry to do, but I thought these are a bunch of gummy worms you gave me here. But yeah, Cage is in the room. He kind of does this weird heart power up move to him where he puts his hand over Franz's heart or whatever and he goes to walk away and he's like, I know you're there, go back and tell him I'm not going.

Speaker 6:
[66:08] Not yet, I'm not.

Speaker 1:
[66:11] Yes, and then I guess Cage comes back later when he's watching Jerry Springer or whatever. This week on the show, we're going to talk about the mothers who are also part of the Clu Clux Clan. And this is the same line the Falk uses, I know you're there, I can't see you, but I just know you're there. And then instead of having a very cool one way conversation, which is the way the original goes, he reveals himself and now we're just full on having a little.

Speaker 5:
[66:36] Geez, you look good. How do you know when I'm here?

Speaker 1:
[66:40] So here's the thing, geez, you look good. He's like, I forget how good you all look, which means he used to be a beautiful man. And he's been running this body like a fucking rental car. You know what I mean? Just like he knows.

Speaker 2:
[66:52] Till the tires fall off.

Speaker 3:
[66:54] I mean, I'm sorry, I would be doing the same exact fucking thing.

Speaker 1:
[66:57] I mean, I am doing these.

Speaker 3:
[67:00] Yeah, and you also fell from grace.

Speaker 2:
[67:03] Of course, yes, I was the most beautiful angel.

Speaker 3:
[67:05] But like two club sandwiches and a pack of fucking pancakes, that is a hell of a fucking meal.

Speaker 2:
[67:11] Yes, the diner order is crazy. They go out for food.

Speaker 1:
[67:15] This is after he has been like, by the way, Angel, nice pic there. She's hot, little flat chested for my tastes, though.

Speaker 2:
[67:22] But hey, all you need is a handful.

Speaker 1:
[67:26] Sick.

Speaker 2:
[67:28] How is that in this movie?

Speaker 1:
[67:30] It is pretty wild. But it's also like, but it is funny because he does say like, oh yeah, it should be Carl Messinger, whatever his name is. Yeah, I'm a glutton, which is we get that.

Speaker 3:
[67:41] Hell yeah.

Speaker 1:
[67:42] When he says heatedest.

Speaker 3:
[67:44] Hell yeah.

Speaker 1:
[67:44] That means, oh yeah, for a while there.

Speaker 5:
[67:47] Before I met Demetrius, I was going through him two by two, three by four.

Speaker 1:
[67:52] And whenever I get my hands on, man, I spent a week back in 76, total dedicated chicken fucker.

Speaker 5:
[67:57] Couldn't even believe it.

Speaker 2:
[67:58] You know all the rules the old man has? I broke them all.

Speaker 3:
[68:02] I mean, hell, Teresa was fine with it. I went cruising right after we met, and she was absolutely fine with it. I just do it as much as I can.

Speaker 2:
[68:10] You know, I'm surprised in the other motion picture, 8mm, you didn't see one of my films that I made.

Speaker 1:
[68:17] They used to call me a machine in the old days.

Speaker 2:
[68:19] Yes, but then we handed it down. It's like Batman, there's a new machine.

Speaker 3:
[68:25] No, I was close friends with Dirk Diggler, and I'll tell you, that thing is real. I'm not kidding you. That thing, you go look at it, it could kill you if it fucking got hard in front of you.

Speaker 1:
[68:34] Yeah, I was his guardian angel that night. He got beat up in the Burger King parking lot, jerking off in the front of that guy's flatbed truck.

Speaker 3:
[68:40] Saw it coming a mile away. He didn't listen. That's his problem.

Speaker 2:
[68:45] Put my angelic hand on his cock.

Speaker 3:
[68:49] It's wonderful. It's massive.

Speaker 1:
[68:51] That's what I was preventing. I was preventing him from getting hard, but then that just made the other fella angrier.

Speaker 2:
[68:58] I was trying to defuse the situation.

Speaker 6:
[69:02] What does he say or do?

Speaker 1:
[69:03] He's like, former celestial body, recent addition to the human race. And then Nicholas Cage is like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 6:
[69:11] Who are you?

Speaker 1:
[69:13] And yeah, he's eating in these, a lot of fruit and whipped cream on these pancakes, really stuffed pancakes. Yeah, big time on the pancakes, he got that club sando just sitting there. And then he's asking, what's the situation with these French toasts you got there?

Speaker 2:
[69:29] Yes, he's ordering more. There was another plate too, right? There was a third plate, I think.

Speaker 3:
[69:34] There's another club sandwich. I think there's two club sandwiches.

Speaker 1:
[69:37] Because I guess he feels either emboldened because he's like, ah, you're here for me, but I ain't ready to go yet. He's like, I'm not here for you. I'm trying to fuck this doctor. And like, I guess he's emboldened by that. So that if the old man ain't looking for me, I could do whatever I want. Double cheeseburger for me right after major heart surgery. Well, because it's a thing where he, like he knows that he has a specific time that he's going to die. And back at the hospital, Cage tells him, like, yeah, no, you're not dying right now. So he knows, like, I can fucking run this shit till the wheels fall off, baby, because I ain't dying this week.

Speaker 3:
[70:12] That's a plus and minus. Like, it is kind of, it's funny that he does know that and that it's exact like that. It's not like Clyde Bruckman where it's just like, I feel it in the air. Yeah. No, it's just here, it's this day. And until then, I'm adding bacon to everything. Add the fucking bacon to the pancakes, add the bacon to the fucking salad. I don't care.

Speaker 1:
[70:34] But he tells him, you know, his whole deal. And, you know, yeah, when you do this big fall, you make the jump and then you wake up and you're a little sore and you're starving because you've never eaten before.

Speaker 2:
[70:45] This is a good line too. That, you know, they gave the greatest gift to these bozos. I didn't think they gave it to us too. It's free will.

Speaker 1:
[70:53] Two of the greatest gifts that God gave to these guys. One is free will. Of course, the other one is Wendy's. You ever have Wendy's?

Speaker 3:
[71:02] Fantastic. It was nothing until they got that spicy chicken. Oh my, oh my God. When they got the spicy chicken, you just, you park me there. Give me a bed and a nightside table and I will stay in Wendy's for spicy chicken sandwiches.

Speaker 2:
[71:15] It did change the game.

Speaker 1:
[71:17] It did. Yeah, in a few years from now they're going to invent something called the Baconator. You better believe I'm sticking around on this rock long enough for that at least.

Speaker 3:
[71:26] Tour down for breakfast.

Speaker 1:
[71:28] I looked in God's big book and I found out the Baconator was coming in 2001.

Speaker 6:
[71:34] Some other bad stuff.

Speaker 5:
[71:35] But the Baconator is coming. I'm sticking around. I don't care about that.

Speaker 2:
[71:39] Put some money on the Baconator.

Speaker 1:
[71:42] Yeah, you're right, Steve. Where were the fucking angels on that fateful day, by the way? 2007 was the Baconator. Just checked.

Speaker 2:
[71:51] And I just checked. I was 95 Spicy Chicken Sandwich and then 96 it became permanent, I think.

Speaker 1:
[71:57] So it's kind of like an arch deluxe deal.

Speaker 3:
[72:00] It's just right there.

Speaker 1:
[72:02] There's an interesting thing right here where it's actually a fascinating question, right? Cage is like, how many of you are there? Like, how many of us have done this transformation? And he's like, yeah, more than you think. But it's kind of weird when we recognize one another in the street. So we just got to walk on by. That's all you got to do is walk on by because it's fucking weird talking about heaven with somebody. I just remember the old days.

Speaker 5:
[72:25] Remember the old days? Remember Lucifer? We used to call him Lou. He was the nicest guy could ever could be.

Speaker 3:
[72:31] Called him Lou.

Speaker 1:
[72:32] But he went a little kooky in the head there.

Speaker 3:
[72:35] Called him the son of the morning, but I don't line again to nepotism talk.

Speaker 1:
[72:41] But Franz says that basically like you can't tell human beings the truth about what you are because they just do not have the emotional maturity or whatever to grasp what you're saying to them and they inevitably will not believe you. And then this is where they go. He's like, hey, you fucking weirdoes still do that thing down at the beach there, sunrise and sunset, you all fucking congregate down there. And Cage is like, yeah, we do. And he's like, oh, let's go. Let's go see it. And then, yeah, this is the moment where it's like, they're all like clearly vibing on something. And Cage is like, can you still hear it? And he's like, nah, it's all gone. Guess I'll just show my ass and go swimming instead.

Speaker 6:
[73:21] Cowabunga, dudes.

Speaker 1:
[73:23] Oh, you could hear God's earthly, you could hear God's celestial voice to the sunshed. But do you ever feel sand on your taint?

Speaker 6:
[73:31] You haven't, had you?

Speaker 4:
[73:33] I'm about to.

Speaker 3:
[73:35] Have you ever felt your intestines work through two club sandwiches and a pancake?

Speaker 5:
[73:40] I have, and boy, howdy. Have you ever dove into a public beach with a gaping heart wound from an open-heart surgery that happened not four days ago?

Speaker 1:
[73:50] Like, he doesn't even have any bandages. Salt at my wound, Mother Earth, let's go. Actually, one of the things they don't tell you is you turn into Wolverine when you come down here.

Speaker 2:
[74:00] I need you to do that angel hand on my fanny there to keep the diarrhea at bay.

Speaker 1:
[74:06] OK, last time.

Speaker 3:
[74:09] I mean, if you could just get me an emodium, that would be easier. But if you're going to do a hand thing, do a hand thing.

Speaker 1:
[74:14] All right, this is the last time we will play angel fanny, all right?

Speaker 2:
[74:18] Just till I get back to the bedpan.

Speaker 1:
[74:21] But, and again, look at the artlessness of this movie. There's this great moment when, you know, Bruno Ghosn meets Peter Falk. Peter Falk is amazing in that movie. And Dennis Franz is very good in this. But because he is doing the thing of like, oh, I love a cup of coffee. I love the cool touch of this and this and that. But then he also takes a little notebook.

Speaker 6:
[74:39] He's like, I could draw her here.

Speaker 1:
[74:41] I could see this. I make a big line.

Speaker 6:
[74:43] Then I make a small line.

Speaker 1:
[74:44] Then I could do this. And like, that is so much more interesting than, like, I think at some point he's like, yeah, this is my daughter, her dumb boyfriend and my beautiful grandchildren, because that's what we do in America.

Speaker 5:
[74:56] We just populate and populate.

Speaker 1:
[74:58] That's the thing. It's got nothing to do about, like, when you have all this time now, you can experience art on an emotional level. You can be creative. You can use your mind in a way you never thought. Nope, just fucking, fucking and paying bills and having a fucking barbecue outside every Saturday.

Speaker 6:
[75:14] That's it.

Speaker 2:
[75:14] Eating and having kids.

Speaker 6:
[75:15] It's America.

Speaker 3:
[75:17] That's the thing is Ruth, the daughter, must have some kind of power or something. If you're half angel. Great point. Come on. I would think I like that he's like her stupid husband, Frank. I fucking hate this guy. Can you believe it? I'm an angel. I got a demon for a fucking son-in-law. Can you imagine that shit?

Speaker 1:
[75:36] But then, hey, you know what fucking sucks working for a living? You know what I mean? Like it's just like exactly. They got a thing down here called a nine to five. You got to do it fucking five days out of the seven they got in a week. Isn't it so weird when you spend most of your time working for some asshole that's taking half your money and then the government takes the rest of it. Can you believe it?

Speaker 5:
[75:55] But there is the baconator, which is coming.

Speaker 1:
[75:59] You're right, man. That's the American way. Fast food, raising a family and fucking skinny dipping. That's all that matters and going to work.

Speaker 3:
[76:07] No, no, no. I couldn't go see the sunrise. Of course, I'd get fired if I went to the beach to see a sunrise in the morning. I'd be fired that day.

Speaker 1:
[76:13] Oh, and by the way, that surgery that I'm poo pooing is going to cripple my entire family. That's funny.

Speaker 3:
[76:19] 30 grand. Have fun with that.

Speaker 1:
[76:23] I got to say too, when you see the two of them go out, because Meg Ryan does have a line to him about like, your body surfing days are over. Yeah. And he's like, oh yeah, watch this. And they go out and you see them both body surfing back in. The Dennis Franz body double is clearly wearing boxer shorts. I don't think so. I need to see that fucking mushroom cap in all it's glory.

Speaker 3:
[76:46] Come on now. At least an ass. More ass if you need to, please.

Speaker 6:
[76:49] Yeah, the butt cheeks. Show it from the top. Show his ass.

Speaker 1:
[76:52] Whatever. Dennis Franz, I think you do see his ass very famously showed his ass on NYPD Blue. Guy was not ashamed of what God gave him.

Speaker 3:
[76:59] Good man. Nope.

Speaker 1:
[77:00] Dude did not care that he looks like Danny Devito's penguin from behind.

Speaker 3:
[77:05] Why would you?

Speaker 2:
[77:06] He looks beautiful.

Speaker 3:
[77:07] He does.

Speaker 1:
[77:09] But so basically, Cassiel sort of encourages Cage's character, Seth, to take the plunge. He's like, hey, man, you know, what are you waiting for when you wake up?

Speaker 5:
[77:18] You're just, all right. Yeah. What are you waiting for?

Speaker 1:
[77:21] Eric, you had said this, we should be a half hour shorter. It absolutely should be. Because like, this is the downtime when like, Cage finds out what he needs to do, and he's not even like really grappling with it. He's just faffs around for a while until he finally does it. Because we basically have a whole other meat cute scene where he fucking stalks her to the park, and he's like, your dog told me that he's pretty happy, but you don't sleep enough, and he worries about you. And I was like, no, you already did the whole alien thing. Just jump off the building. I'm the homeless guy you meet in libraries and in the park. And by the way, your dog's talking to me.

Speaker 2:
[77:58] Your dog says, you need more sleep, and you should smile more, baby girl.

Speaker 3:
[78:04] The dog says, he has to go piss on the other dog's piss. He's all about getting over on somebody. He has to shit now. Earl, stop.

Speaker 1:
[78:15] Earl, no. Really bad Meg Ryan line right here, where she's like, oh no, are you married, homeless or even worse, a drummer? Hilarious. I was expecting, are you married, homeless or gay?

Speaker 2:
[78:36] Yes, right. Yeah. But his answer to that is like, I don't want to hurt you.

Speaker 3:
[78:41] Strange.

Speaker 1:
[78:42] Unless you need me, unless you make a mistake, the choice is yours.

Speaker 3:
[78:49] He saw. He's jigsaw.

Speaker 2:
[78:50] But then they just kiss, right?

Speaker 1:
[78:52] Like he kisses her and she's like, did you feel anything? And he's like, oh, and then she just runs away. I mean, of course, he can't feel anything.

Speaker 3:
[79:00] Do you love your boyfriend? Well, that's a complicated thing. I mean, no, the answer is no, I don't.

Speaker 1:
[79:05] Oh, he does throw that in the conversation too, you're right. So if he can kiss, I guess he can go downtown too, but he just wouldn't feel anything.

Speaker 3:
[79:11] Oh, no. Right.

Speaker 6:
[79:12] Hello. But that's the thing, I don't think he knows about the option to go downtown.

Speaker 3:
[79:19] Clearly, he does not. Whenever you're asking of like, does he know? He doesn't. He doesn't have that in his fucking brain.

Speaker 2:
[79:25] When he watches The Gooner, he doesn't learn these things.

Speaker 3:
[79:27] Exactly. No, but that's not like a state that there's many other people doing many other things. So he doesn't think like, well, that's what all of them do.

Speaker 2:
[79:34] I guess that's fair. We did have a quick scene, right? Where Meg Ryan and Dr. Boyfriend, and he wants to like fly up to Lake Tahoe. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[79:45] There's a first scene where he tries to plant that seed. She's like, why are my fucking bags packed? And he's like, because we're going to Lake Tahoe.

Speaker 2:
[79:53] I love it.

Speaker 1:
[79:54] To your house, by the way.

Speaker 2:
[79:55] It's hers.

Speaker 1:
[79:55] It's her uncle's house. Yes. But even still, he's like, I want to use it. It's kind of awesome when we go there and I get to like hang out and let that bathtub. Pretend it's mine.

Speaker 2:
[80:06] It does look pretty sweet.

Speaker 1:
[80:07] I think that's what he's trying to get this fucking marriage proposal for. Because then he gets some ownership over that beach, over that fucking lake house. Now you got some real real estate in your life.

Speaker 2:
[80:18] It's true.

Speaker 3:
[80:19] It'd be funny if he just starts like you get more Confior and he's just like, you know, the Olympics were there once and the fucking game they have. He just starts getting the history because he's ready to be the fucking guy who runs Lake Tahoe.

Speaker 2:
[80:33] I could be mayor.

Speaker 3:
[80:36] Let's just move there. Why not? I mean, it is a gorgeous house. This fucking house is insane.

Speaker 1:
[80:40] You know, that's where Fredo Corleone was assassinated.

Speaker 3:
[80:43] It was.

Speaker 1:
[80:45] But so Dennis Franz has this, hey, I beat surgery party and everyone goes over to the house. And this is like the, isn't this heaven?

Speaker 4:
[80:55] Look at this. Isn't this heaven?

Speaker 1:
[80:57] I'm living in that weird, super industrial section of Los Angeles that doesn't get featured in movies too often, but here it is.

Speaker 3:
[81:04] Well, I wouldn't really know. You would be the one to know about heaven here, Dennis. Do you remember? Do you got any recollection here? Is this what it looked like? It's not bad. I got to tell you.

Speaker 1:
[81:13] And this is where like Dennis Franz realizes, like, that Cage has set up like no story at all or whatever. And he's like, oh yeah, my friend here, when he says up, he's from up, he means he's from Canada, you see? Yeah, I think that covered it. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3:
[81:30] Wait, you said you're from Tahoe. That's up there. Yeah, he's from Tahoe as well.

Speaker 1:
[81:34] But the little kids can see right through it, the little girls playing with him or whatever, and she's like, you're just like grandpa.

Speaker 4:
[81:41] Unless you'll be the being that fell to earth.

Speaker 2:
[81:43] Takes the Polaroid picture, yeah, yeah. And then it's just a big light blur where he was supposed to be.

Speaker 1:
[81:50] That's right, yeah, a little lens flare.

Speaker 2:
[81:52] I was hoping it would be like invisible, like he was like a vampire, nothing.

Speaker 3:
[81:56] He's not a vampire.

Speaker 1:
[81:57] Oh, so weird, I took a picture of Seth, and when I looked at it, I saw my own death.

Speaker 6:
[82:02] Isn't that so odd? Huh, huh.

Speaker 1:
[82:04] Also, really odd part of this movie is Dennis Franz shown eating vegetables in this scene. I mean, he has to at some point after the fucking heart surgery.

Speaker 3:
[82:16] And you understand he does the smartest thing that a fat man can. He picks the vegetable that goes with butter the best.

Speaker 1:
[82:23] Exactly.

Speaker 3:
[82:23] So he goes for corn. He's got a bunch of corn.

Speaker 2:
[82:25] Corn is just a butter conduit, that's all.

Speaker 1:
[82:27] Corn on the cob is also a really good walking vegetable. He can still be the party animal of his little backyard BBQ, but I got a little snack with me. Now here it's Ali Kord in front of this flat chested doctor to get her off my back. Then afterwards it's sausage time.

Speaker 2:
[82:43] Right, he's buttering up sausage and eating it like corn on the cob.

Speaker 3:
[82:51] I got some ribs, I got secret ribs in the house if you need some.

Speaker 1:
[82:58] Secret ribs.

Speaker 2:
[82:59] I've been hiding them in the back of the toilet tank.

Speaker 1:
[83:03] Those are just grandpa's ribs there you see.

Speaker 6:
[83:06] Don't worry, it's not a problem.

Speaker 1:
[83:07] I used to be an angel so I could do this. It's kind of weird because it's like they have this whole scene, Meg Ryan is also at this party, like we said, there's corn on the cob, we're grilling the whole thing. I know. The very next scene is we go back to her house and we're making more food.

Speaker 6:
[83:26] This is where we make that salad.

Speaker 1:
[83:28] It's like a midnight salad, like they've been at the party.

Speaker 4:
[83:31] You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[83:32] I need a line that's just like, oh yeah, that food was disgusting.

Speaker 3:
[83:38] They're getting veggie, so I was thinking like, oh god, I'm a doctor, I need some vegetables, so let's have a little salad. I mean, hey, in Europe, they have it as dessert.

Speaker 1:
[83:47] This is when this movie turns into Superman 2 for four minutes, where basically he accidentally cuts his hand and she doesn't see it. It goes through. He does that first, and then she starts stabbing this guy.

Speaker 6:
[84:03] Yeah, dude, she's going at him with this knife.

Speaker 2:
[84:06] Oh, now I see why her patients keep dying.

Speaker 1:
[84:08] It's not even like a quick, like, I'm going to... I think this guy might be an angel, what with the picture and all this stuff. And she's asking him, like, pointed questions too, like, where were your parents from? Or whatever the she's asking. A quick prick would suffice. She goes down the hand with a butcher knife. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[84:25] And then she's like, well, what's your last name? Uh, Plates.

Speaker 1:
[84:30] Dude, you might as well have said Lettuce, dude.

Speaker 2:
[84:33] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[84:33] Which is a lie, which he cannot do. Sorry, you told me he can't do it, so he can't do it.

Speaker 2:
[84:38] Yeah. Yeah. It should be like, uh, Angel.

Speaker 1:
[84:42] But that's a weird, like, it's a not-not lie, because he doesn't have a... Yeah. Nah, he's still lying.

Speaker 3:
[84:49] Yeah, he's lying. It's a lie.

Speaker 1:
[84:50] Never mind, he's lying. But she finds out, yes, of course he's not bleeding because she fucking just opened up his whole fucking carotid artery there. Dude. I didn't feel it the way a human does, he says to her.

Speaker 2:
[85:03] I do like, she's got one line that's like, you freak, you liar.

Speaker 3:
[85:07] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[85:08] What are you?

Speaker 1:
[85:10] I was there to take Mr. Balford, but I couldn't take my eyes off you instead.

Speaker 3:
[85:15] That's romantic, isn't it? Look, listen to that. Isn't that wonderful? Oh, look, he died for me.

Speaker 2:
[85:21] Here's the question is, can Cage, as an angel, visit Heaven? So could he, like, if she died, could he just go and date her in Heaven?

Speaker 1:
[85:32] That's a great thought.

Speaker 3:
[85:33] I don't think so.

Speaker 1:
[85:34] We don't see Heaven, so it really doesn't.

Speaker 2:
[85:35] It's a gated community.

Speaker 3:
[85:38] I think when you're up in Heaven, you are a person.

Speaker 1:
[85:40] It's a pearly gated community. You're like the light.

Speaker 3:
[85:43] I think once you get up there, down here, you are the person because if you do want to be seen, you need to look noisy. You need to look like a person. I think up there, they're all like the light thing that you see in the camera.

Speaker 2:
[85:54] But you're like a purgatory ghost. Perhaps you could date.

Speaker 3:
[85:56] Maybe. That's not bad. That would work.

Speaker 1:
[85:59] Dating myself a girl down in purgatory right now. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 3:
[86:03] She's kind of wild.

Speaker 2:
[86:04] She killed herself.

Speaker 6:
[86:05] It was a sin.

Speaker 2:
[86:06] But, you know, they didn't send her downstairs for it.

Speaker 1:
[86:09] It's kind of great, though, man, because she's always home. What I want to call her, she's always there.

Speaker 2:
[86:13] She's damned to that apartment still.

Speaker 6:
[86:16] It's like she never leaves.

Speaker 1:
[86:19] Um, but yeah, you know, just the freak out here, you know, she's like, I can't even conceive of what you're fucking talking about. And she tells him to get out. And he does a famous angel disappearing thing right here. Yeah. And before in the movie, when he's done this, it's been like at the library or other places where you could conceivably be like, oh, he just like fucked off through a door really quickly. Like at the hospital, like, oh, maybe he got on the elevator and I just missed it. This is this dude two feet away from her in a kitchen. And then all of a sudden he's not there. And her reaction is not what it should be. Like if someone just vanished before your eyes, it would be more than like a heavy sigh, you know?

Speaker 2:
[86:56] Right. Now we have our sad moment. All hope is lost. Better smoke cigarettes and she'll have a sad lunch at the grocery store.

Speaker 1:
[87:05] By herself. Yeah. This is where Cage is smoking next to, I guess, supposedly Michael Mann. I'd have to go back and look at the game tape for that.

Speaker 3:
[87:15] It really didn't. Yeah. I know about that.

Speaker 1:
[87:17] And he's not, unlike some other people that are uncredited here at the ass end of IMDB, I'm not seeing any Michael Mann. You even get the Elizabeth Shue credit.

Speaker 2:
[87:27] I was trying to see, like, is there a common producer or cinematographer? And I couldn't find any.

Speaker 1:
[87:32] Yeah. Weird.

Speaker 2:
[87:33] But maybe I missed it.

Speaker 1:
[87:37] Very strange. But dude, in this montage, by the way, you see her distracted again doing surgery. Just, you know, leave it at the door. She's like fucking wrist deep in somebody, like staring into space, and they have to be like, Dr. Rice. And she's like, Oh, oh, right. My fucking life or death job I have.

Speaker 2:
[87:54] Sorry, I'm usually wrist deep in myself.

Speaker 1:
[87:59] Not today. But yeah, there's like a storm's coming in at one point. It turns into like a dark and stormy night, and like she's taking her fucking robe off at home, like she's still got like a tank top on, and he's just back in this house, but in invisible mode, by the way. Not cool, dude. And by the way, this is when Sarah McLachlin starts playing. And I had the muscle memory of just reaching for my remote control. I gotta change the channel. I'm not watching these dogs in the cages. I can't handle it. Because it is specifically Sarah McLachlin's angel, by the way. You don't react that way to any Sarah McLachlin, dude. Kind of, sort of.

Speaker 3:
[88:39] Suddenly she just puts Earl in a cage.

Speaker 1:
[88:44] For just a dollar a day, Earl can get out, you know. Oh man, yeah, it was really something with that fucking tune in there. But, and then she knows that he's there, and it's like, could you just hold me so I could go to sleep in the scary- Just stay. Yeah. Okay, we're kind of angel dry humping now. This is, this means we're dating. FYI, this is dating.

Speaker 5:
[89:08] By the way, apologies for the angel boner.

Speaker 3:
[89:12] It might go through you, it might not.

Speaker 4:
[89:15] I'm looking through you.

Speaker 1:
[89:19] So she wakes up, he's gone, but wouldn't you know it, she looks at the clock, oh shit, she has slept until 724 a.m. Noth is waking up till 3 o'clock, or waking up at 3 o'clock, so she's like, oh, thank you, angel, I slept through the night, yay.

Speaker 3:
[89:32] Finally, got, what, four hours of sleep?

Speaker 1:
[89:35] Yeah, just four hours, and then this is a sheet.

Speaker 5:
[89:37] Clarence, I want to live again, and I want to fuck you too. Oh, you're so hot, Clarence. Clarence, I also magically know what's wrong with that crying baby back at the hospital, let's go.

Speaker 3:
[89:47] Clarence, are you hung? I am too, yay.

Speaker 5:
[89:51] Clarence, I'm 69, yeah, take the plunge, Clarence.

Speaker 1:
[89:55] Dude, then you got Inside Lewin Davis Lady being like, how did you fucking know what was wrong with this baby? And she's like, I just knew. Okay, I guess they needed one more scene of, everybody loves a eureka scene in a Hollywood movie, whether it's warranted or not. Yeah, whether you remember what the fuck was going on with the character that's getting eureka-fied in the first place. Then secondly, I guess it's like, we could show her being good at her job, but she's been so bad at it, so sure.

Speaker 2:
[90:22] Yeah, I guess that's fair. By the way, I quickly, I found a Brad Silberling and Michael Mann connection in 2009. The DGA had both of them collaborate on upgrading the theaters, so maybe, you know, the DGA screening room in LA and New York. So maybe they know each other through the Directors Guild. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[90:41] Yeah, they might be just buds. Yeah. But so Maggie, we cut to her sort of alone in the locker room at the hospital. This is some more barefootery going on. And I was like, barefoot in a fucking hospital locker room. I don't know. But this is, dude, Colm Feore comes in and like, dude, if you ever want like photographic evidence of the fucking wrong idea at the wrong place at the wrong time, it's this dude in this hospital locker room like, so what do you say? Marry me or what? Because it's quite clear that they don't have a super committed relationship to even begin with. It's like comes over sometimes. They go to Tahoe sometimes. How about like, let's give this a real shot. Like, just start there, get together.

Speaker 2:
[91:27] It's like, convention that you didn't get to go to Tahoe last week. And so you're saying, will you marry me? We can finally go to Tahoe, right? What do you say?

Speaker 1:
[91:34] Then I can use that Tahoe house whenever I want. I can just get the keys out of our house and you can't say shit about it.

Speaker 2:
[91:40] What do you want? You want me to get down on my knees? You want me to what do you want me to say? We belong together. We're the same species.

Speaker 1:
[91:46] I'm sorry, I'm not an angel. He goes to her, please be my wife. Just think about it. And he walks out of his locker room? No, sir.

Speaker 3:
[91:58] That's not going to work.

Speaker 1:
[91:59] It is kind of weird that Colm Feore looks so much like Nicholas Cage in this movie. They kind of have a similar haircut.

Speaker 2:
[92:05] She's got type.

Speaker 3:
[92:07] She probably should have given George Clooney a try then. Nice and close cut.

Speaker 1:
[92:13] But there's a scene where Maggie goes to check on Dennis Franz, and he's like, put your dang stethoscope away. I'm fucking fine already, will you? And she's like, what is up with this Seth guy, by the way? And he's basically now just like, all right, here's the deal. Promise you're not going to flip out. All right, look, he's an angel. I used to be an angel. He can give up eternity just for you. I know, because I also did it. Let me let you in on the secret of all secrets.

Speaker 5:
[92:44] Do you want to know how the world was made? What are we talking about?

Speaker 1:
[92:49] How much time you got?

Speaker 3:
[92:50] Do me a favor and just keep on touching my chest, though. That's feeling real good. My bare chest needs some touching. Teresa doesn't do it no more.

Speaker 2:
[92:58] Yeah, did you know that dinosaurs didn't exist? We just put those bones down there to fuck with you.

Speaker 1:
[93:03] That was my initial job, making dino bones.

Speaker 2:
[93:08] I was like, let's see how fucking weird this one could be. Oh, they won't buy this, but then they did.

Speaker 3:
[93:13] I'm going to tell you, the moon landing, not even Stanley Kubrick had anything to do with that. That was all us.

Speaker 1:
[93:18] He also says earlier in the movie that he has not even told his own wife that he's an angel. He's like, why would I put her through that? This flat-chested doctor, though, get ready to have your head blown up. Yeah, totally. So Sheila goes back to the library to try to find him or whatever. She does a little prayer here, like, oh, God, help me through this. And all these angels are like, well, you've come to the right place. God is here at the local library. Cockroaches crawling all over themselves. And in a really annoying turn here, because it really doesn't last that long, and this movie is just about two hours, she's like, this is where she does the, get out of here, nobody wants you anymore. She's just like, I just want to say goodbye, I don't want to see you ever again, that kind of a deal. I'm marrying the other guy, or whatever. Yes, I'm gonna marry Colm Feore, and dudes, she's like, says her piece, and she's walking out of this fucking library, and all of these angels are perched up on ledges, watching her exit the premises like it's the end of the birds.

Speaker 3:
[94:25] Yes!

Speaker 1:
[94:25] She's just like tiptoeing around all these angels, pardon me, oh, I didn't mean to hurt your friend's feelings, whoops.

Speaker 3:
[94:32] Their favorite show is ending. They had a good show going on here with Nick Barrett and Maggie. It was looking good, and then now, fuck it, she's going with Colm Feore, who's going to become the mayor of Tahoe.

Speaker 1:
[94:45] But so this sends him up the construction tower, and he decides to do the deed, jumps off this tower here. And when he's climbing it, did anyone else? The IMDB says it is the Hail Mary and the Our Father being said in Polish. My ear just, as he's climbing this tower or whatever, I just heard, inch, inch, asa, asa. There's like quiet chanting underneath the track here. Very weird. Oh, yeah. Bane was also an angel, but he went the other way, you know. Sometimes you do it for pure evil reasons, you know.

Speaker 3:
[95:18] You don't want to see under that mask. Let me tell you something. That thing is grotesque.

Speaker 5:
[95:22] Oh, the first time I fell to earth, I had all the pancakes the Waffle House would make me.

Speaker 3:
[95:30] It looks like a fajita platter under there. It's not good. It's just all mess.

Speaker 5:
[95:34] Ah, yes, I was going to do a Colombo reboot, but I couldn't, so that I became evil.

Speaker 1:
[95:43] When he's doing this dive, though, and it's like, I guess, pseudo life passing before his eyes, you bet your ass he thinks back to that bathtub scene.

Speaker 3:
[95:52] Oh, yeah, that's number one with the bullet.

Speaker 6:
[95:53] There's just a clip of that fucking foot up again on the top.

Speaker 1:
[95:55] Which is, it's in black and white to let you know, which, because it comes into play in a second, but he's like, color, and I'm like, what? Because I was confused by that, because in Wings of Desire, the angels are always in black and white, and the movie's in black and white until he falls, and then it's color. It's kind of a cool thing. Oh, it's like an actual artistic thing that's fucking thought about and not just thrown in at the last second.

Speaker 6:
[96:16] Yeah! Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2:
[96:18] What if we sort of said it but not really?

Speaker 1:
[96:21] Exactly. Just do it or don't. You didn't do it in the movie, so it confused me.

Speaker 3:
[96:26] Well, I mean, this is even more like a dog then. I mean, you should make it a little bit more fuzzy, too. Like, just you can't really make everything out. That would be fun.

Speaker 1:
[96:35] And it's so dumb, because it's like, at this point, why are we even bothering to acknowledge the artistic style of Wim Wenders in any way? I would argue the vast majority of people who went to see this movie on opening weekend were not aware of the existence of Wings of Desire.

Speaker 3:
[96:51] Probably not.

Speaker 1:
[96:51] I'm not saying everybody. I'm sure people were out there that was aware that it was going to be a remake. But I'm sure the vast majority of Cage people and Meg Ryan date night people did not give a shit and were just kind of confused by that choice.

Speaker 3:
[97:04] I'm just... This happens, and we've got 30 minutes left.

Speaker 1:
[97:09] We certainly do.

Speaker 3:
[97:09] And I'm like, whatever you wanted to do with this, already you can tell, you fucked me. Like, the good... What would have been good about this movie is them together learning stuff with him and seeing his reactions and actually having fun with that idea. But you know that's not going to happen, because I got 30 fucking minutes with this guy.

Speaker 2:
[97:28] We need time for him to behave like a baby, fall on the ground and realize he cut his hand and there's a boo-boo there, and these construction workers have to tell him that, oh, is it red? Then it's blood.

Speaker 1:
[97:42] The one guy who is like first telling him like, oh, hey, wake up, man, or whatever. I didn't notice this. I looked it up, but it's crazy now thinking back in the scene. It's William Stanford Davis, who you guys, I don't think, care or watch it, but he's the very funny character, Mr. Johnson, on Abbott Elementary.

Speaker 3:
[98:01] Ah, oh, okay.

Speaker 1:
[98:02] The janitor character. But then also, there's some fucking line about, he's like, oh, can you see me? Is this blood? And then you just hear a guy go, is it red? That is a fucking baby, 1998 Nick Offerman.

Speaker 2:
[98:18] Whoa, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[98:19] It is really wild. See, then there's just like no facial hair to be found. Really wild look. That's before he fell to earth, unfortunately. That's exactly right.

Speaker 3:
[98:30] Five-eyes mustache.

Speaker 2:
[98:31] So now that Nick Cage is a human, he starts dancing through the streets like Roberto Benigni.

Speaker 1:
[98:37] Yeah, this is when he finally starts to cage out a little bit, because it's been so internal and oh, oh, oh. And I was like, yeah, I'm dancing, I'm singing songs and doing that shit. Now they're like, the audience is like, oh, now I understand why you started the presentation with that Michigan J. Frog fucking cartoon, because now he's Michigan J.

Speaker 4:
[98:55] Frogging down the street.

Speaker 1:
[98:56] He realized he doesn't know Chinese anymore. That's a bummer.

Speaker 2:
[99:00] He's got no bus fare, he's got a hitchhike, and then a car pulls up, he puts his face in the window and says hello, and is punched in the face and mugged. He has no money, so they take his boots. And I've got a question about the boots.

Speaker 3:
[99:15] Sure.

Speaker 2:
[99:15] Made in heaven, is that what it says on the side?

Speaker 6:
[99:18] Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[99:19] Shouldn't he lose his clothes?

Speaker 1:
[99:21] Yeah, it would make more sense if he was naked or in Wings of Desire. The way that Bruno Gans gets money, and Peter Falk kind of razzes them about it, because he sells his armor at a pawn shop. He takes it, and he gets 200 marks. It's kind of this great line. It's like, I sold my armor, you got robbed. It's okay, it happens. It's just this great fit of armor. I sold my armor in 1952, New York Street, 44th Street. I got $500 for that. It's like this great thing. But that's cool, and that's kind of an interesting idea. It's something.

Speaker 2:
[99:54] Yes, it is, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[99:55] Between realizing he no longer speaks every language on the planet and getting mugged and punched in the face, he does go to the hospital. Right. And this is where Anne, the pediatric lady, treats his wounds or whatever. And then this is where she's like, oh yeah, her uncle's got a cab in Lake Tahoe on the Nevada side. And he bolts out of there or whatever. And now it's just this road trip thing that takes a lot of time off the clock. And I think of like him, he could be like learning what fucking, he could be eating pancakes that are supposed to be so good. He really could. We should see him indulge in food just to get that cage moment, which doesn't happen.

Speaker 3:
[100:36] The oysters. My god, the oysters. Come on.

Speaker 1:
[100:38] Really quickly, when he gets mugged or whatever, and they take his boots and they all drive off and he's just left, and the shot of cage and he's like face down on the ground or whatever, it starts raining. But at the start of this, I thought like a dog was pissing on him. A homeless guy was coming his way with him.

Speaker 5:
[100:56] It's like, oh, I got mugged and they stole my boots, and now I'm getting fucking pissed off.

Speaker 3:
[101:00] Maybe the guys who robbed him came back just to give him one last fucking humiliation to piss on his fucking face. That'd be great.

Speaker 1:
[101:06] And he's trying to hitchhike here and it's not going well. It's front of an earth is so ugly, it's from a nudie booth kind of place. It's like nude girls going on in the background. And there's this guy, like this guy pulls up. It's a great, like the window rolls out. And I feel like this is a Simpsons thing. The window rolls down and it's a pig. Then when Homer's hitchhiking and then it's the guy, a cat, rasta pig around watermelons, you know? Because the truck pulls up and the window rolls down. And then this cute basset hound sticks his little face out. And I was like, oh, that's kind of familiar.

Speaker 3:
[101:40] Old Zeke rides up here with me.

Speaker 1:
[101:42] Yeah, exactly. And then so we've got, it's a little bit of a who's on first gag here because he's like, I'm going to Tahoe. And then the guy's like, okay, I'm going to Reno. And he's like, Tahoe? Reno? Tahoe? I was like, get going with this movie. And you notice, but he's like this really nice guy that takes, ah, just come in, we'll figure it out. Why is that happening? Because Casio is there, weirdly doing whatever angel magic. Yes, I'm just behind the scenes doing my angel puppet master.

Speaker 6:
[102:14] Meanwhile, someone's like, put that knife down, Harry! Please, God! Where is my guardian angel to save me from my murderous husband? This domestic violence thing is going on, oh no!

Speaker 2:
[102:28] Now you gotta help this guy find his true love.

Speaker 6:
[102:30] All those years go in a choich for nothing.

Speaker 3:
[102:34] I had to find a truck, sorry, hon.

Speaker 1:
[102:38] But so he finally shows up at the house because he gets dropped off, he sees a phone, so I guess he can read, by the way, because this is how he gets the address. He looks at the phone book.

Speaker 2:
[102:46] Damn it, we get the goo goo dolls here, right?

Speaker 1:
[102:49] This is the goo goo doll. The road trip, yes, the goo goo dolls come on right here, yes. But yeah, so it's like, this is all garbage, right? Because we've sort of already established that he can't read, so he's reading the phone book, but also we're told already, the woman at the fucking hospital said it's her uncle's cabin. The odds that it's the same name or he's able to decipher that it's no thank you. It's ridiculous. Also, like, I want to see him pee for the first time.

Speaker 6:
[103:16] Whoa, whoa. Oh, oh, this is amazing.

Speaker 2:
[103:21] I can now feel what you call diarrhea.

Speaker 6:
[103:25] Well, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 4:
[103:26] What's happening after that righteous piss I just had?

Speaker 6:
[103:31] Oh.

Speaker 1:
[103:32] Welcome to the party, pal.

Speaker 2:
[103:35] You had your first turtle head, huh?

Speaker 1:
[103:38] Yeah, didn't want to spoil things for you, but the majesty of taking a shit is wild.

Speaker 3:
[103:43] Oh, oh, you're supposed to go in the bowl. Oh, you're not, just let it roll down. Oh, okay.

Speaker 5:
[103:47] Ordinarily, but it does happen.

Speaker 2:
[103:50] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[103:51] Oh, I thought I just went in that one that was hanging off the wall.

Speaker 2:
[103:54] Isn't this heaven, the toilet?

Speaker 1:
[103:57] And Dennis Franz is, because again, like Peter Falk is not that involved in Bruno Gans' transformation. Dennis Franz is, he should be like, listen, buddy, anytime, when you're about to do it, come, tell me where you're going to be. I'll be there with the coat and some money and a car keys for you. I got like two grand in the bank for Angel Emergencies, just for you, pal.

Speaker 3:
[104:19] Yeah, pick them up at the airport, you know? You gotta get ready for them. Come on now.

Speaker 1:
[104:24] Look, just because I had to fall from heaven with nothing doesn't mean I want fellow fallen angels to do the same, all right?

Speaker 5:
[104:30] I didn't listen.

Speaker 1:
[104:31] I had to suck dick for money for three years.

Speaker 5:
[104:33] It was kind of fun, by the way.

Speaker 1:
[104:34] I didn't know that that's what people did. It's kind of awesome. But you shouldn't have to do that unless you want to.

Speaker 3:
[104:40] That's how I met old Teresa. I handled her, her first husband. He was a hell of a guy.

Speaker 1:
[104:47] Had enough of getting nights beat up in Burger King parking lots, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:
[104:52] She bursted into the motel. We locked eyes and we just fell in love right there.

Speaker 4:
[104:57] I swallowed and then we fell in love.

Speaker 3:
[104:59] Yes. Old Simon. Yeah, he was a hell of a guy. He bought me dinner afterwards.

Speaker 2:
[105:04] Old semen. Oh no, Simon. Yeah, that wasn't.

Speaker 1:
[105:05] Simon.

Speaker 3:
[105:06] Yes, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:
[105:08] Nice to meet you, Teresa.

Speaker 2:
[105:13] You know, I would like to buy you some cotton candy and take you to the fair.

Speaker 6:
[105:20] And I don't want the world to see me.

Speaker 1:
[105:25] Gulp. Oh, man. So, yeah, she's like bandaging him up and whatnot because he's still bleeding and beat to shit and everything. Colm Feore was right, though. This fucking sick Tahoe House. I would be like, so maybe this weekend, Tahoe House?

Speaker 3:
[105:41] Let's go.

Speaker 1:
[105:42] That's why I feel like honestly, Colm Feore, like, you got to be better with that proposal, dude. You really got to think about things here. You want to make sure you seal that deal, not like you want to get married or something. Dude, she looks like Meg Ryan and has this fucking Tahoe House and is a pretty cool dog.

Speaker 6:
[105:58] You should have fucking wiped this shit up years ago.

Speaker 2:
[106:00] And that double doctor income?

Speaker 1:
[106:03] Oh, dude, absolutely. So they have sex for the first time in front of this fire. And it's really weird. Like, do you feel that? Oh, dude. And that. Tell me how to describe it to me. Whoa. Yeah. Like, tell me what it feels like to get jerked off here in this moment. And then you see, right? And then it moves, it moves over to the other situation, because she readjusts and you're like, okay, now after this readjustment, this is intercourse. And she's like, I want you to tell me what you feel right now. And he's like, it feels warm, aching. And she like fucking sits on it. And then she's like, it's okay. It's okay. We fit together. See? And I was like, oh my God.

Speaker 3:
[106:43] Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2:
[106:44] Is this what happened in Big as well?

Speaker 1:
[106:48] See, we fit together. He should Forrest Gump it right here. Oh fuck, cause I mean, he's got no idea what's going on over here. You're totally right. How is this not a two pump chump situation?

Speaker 6:
[106:58] This would be like his first or second direction ever.

Speaker 2:
[107:01] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[107:02] We were made to fit together.

Speaker 2:
[107:04] So, I mean-

Speaker 1:
[107:05] Like wet puzzle pieces.

Speaker 2:
[107:09] The sex is done. He's laying around in the morning, spraying perfume in his face.

Speaker 1:
[107:14] We got some Encino man in the shower, which I always appreciate.

Speaker 2:
[107:17] We almost-

Speaker 1:
[107:19] I thought he was going to drink it. I really did when he was like-

Speaker 2:
[107:21] That would be very funny.

Speaker 3:
[107:22] Well, he's got his flopping dick all over in the shower too. My God.

Speaker 1:
[107:26] Dude, definitely Cage penis alert here.

Speaker 3:
[107:28] Lovely.

Speaker 2:
[107:29] I recorded my TV and I was going back and forth trying to see if I could make it all out. Not quite, but it looks pretty good.

Speaker 5:
[107:37] There's something there.

Speaker 3:
[107:38] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[107:39] It's that Coppola energy, dude.

Speaker 2:
[107:42] Big Coppola energy.

Speaker 1:
[107:44] But she's like making him the perfect angel breakfast anyone's ever made and it looks great. She's like, not quite. And she has to go.

Speaker 2:
[107:53] You know what, by the way, it's a candlelit grape breakfast. It's a grape breakfast.

Speaker 1:
[108:00] She's like hand mixing a fruit salad right here.

Speaker 3:
[108:04] A lot of fruit.

Speaker 2:
[108:05] I saw two big old bowls of grapes, that's what I saw.

Speaker 3:
[108:09] There's two big things of grapes which you did not put into the fruit salad for some reason. But then you have the fruit salad where she does, nice note, squeezing the orange over the whole thing.

Speaker 1:
[108:19] Yeah, it's a good idea. It's a little something there, dude.

Speaker 2:
[108:22] You're fine.

Speaker 1:
[108:23] It's this first or second meal ever. You just have that, then later maybe you both take the car out, you go for a nice lunch. A nice light breakfast, another blow bang possibly. Take the car out, everybody's wearing seat belts, all right. Eyes on the road. A nice cup of coffee too, by the way. Get that, again, you're cum drunk. You need a cup of coffee. Settle them nerves.

Speaker 3:
[108:44] Cup of coffee, maybe even you try some cobrew if you want to. And then for lunch, yeah, you got to go Wendy's. Wendy's spicy chicken, right there.

Speaker 1:
[108:53] We don't see what she gets at the general store or whatever. Oh, we certainly do. Oh, do we? Because she spills it in the street after killing herself.

Speaker 2:
[109:01] What is it?

Speaker 1:
[109:02] And that's the thing that's crazy. It's a bag of pears, dude. That's what the fruit salad was missing, was the sandy pear.

Speaker 2:
[109:10] You should have drove.

Speaker 1:
[109:12] Oh, how a dramatic irony.

Speaker 2:
[109:15] But she's cum drunk, she's feeling the wind in her hair, she's closing her eyes for long periods of time for no reason.

Speaker 1:
[109:21] Dude, she is doing a solo titanic situation with her arms out like this. We don't see the impact. I still don't really get how she does.

Speaker 2:
[109:33] We cut to the candle blowing out at the grape breakfast.

Speaker 1:
[109:37] Because he's like, oh, where is she? But if you drive head first, again, no helmet, bad situation, into a logging truck, I just feel like you're breaking your nose and maybe getting a concussion.

Speaker 2:
[109:50] Maybe she went under the wheels or something.

Speaker 1:
[109:54] She would look ground up.

Speaker 3:
[109:55] A lot more blood, I think.

Speaker 2:
[109:57] She has to look dead. Half her body is missing.

Speaker 1:
[110:01] I just want her impaled on one of them logs.

Speaker 2:
[110:04] Yes. Final destination.

Speaker 1:
[110:07] Hins between the truck and a tree or something. A little signs action too could work.

Speaker 2:
[110:14] Right. Say goodbye before we back up the truck. She falls apart.

Speaker 5:
[110:21] Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1:
[110:22] I got to deliver these logs.

Speaker 5:
[110:23] You know, sorry.

Speaker 1:
[110:25] And you know what's crazy is like in moments like this, for me, watching something like this, like this moment would get me. I'm enough of a sucker that moments like this normally get me. Even if the rest of the movie hasn't worked, these moments, I foolishly like translated into like, what if that was me in my own life and I feel terrible? Sure. The chemistry the two of them have in this movie is so terrible. You're right. I felt nothing in this moment. She's like, you know, he says like, do you know how much I love you? And she's asking, is this what happens? Is this what happens when you die? And like, guys, nothing. I was just sitting there. I was like, there's nothing here. And as an audience member, you're, I mean, I'm sure, you know, tearjerker, people were crying. You're feeling ripped off. You're like, well, that was fucking stupid. Like, it's been two hours and that's what happened? Okay.

Speaker 3:
[111:17] Real quick. Yeah. I mean, I just, anything, the whole point was to get me to the point where he gets to do his little baby shit. Like Eric said, he fucking tries things for the first time. You fucking go swim in the ocean with her. Like that's the whole fucking point.

Speaker 1:
[111:32] I misremembered, I thought like, I had this thing where like she, like, they have a kid together and like, Oh wow, angels. And like she has a cancer or something and then she dies.

Speaker 3:
[111:41] No, it's not X-Files.

Speaker 1:
[111:42] Oh no. I think actually, Steve, what you were just thinking about was how they ended the show How I Met Your Mother. Of course. It's all that bullshit, they get together, they have a couple of kids, then that lady checks out. Bummer, man. Yeah, dude. End of the titular mother.

Speaker 4:
[112:02] Not the end of this movie, though.

Speaker 1:
[112:03] I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 4:
[112:04] 20 minutes left.

Speaker 1:
[112:05] The big romance is he is like, oh no, just stay with me. Don't look over there.

Speaker 5:
[112:09] Don't look at him. Look at me.

Speaker 1:
[112:12] And then you need to see an angel. So we get out of here, Phil. Get the out of here, Phil.

Speaker 3:
[112:17] Bring in Amy Brennan. Maybe she's the one who's here for this. That would be nice.

Speaker 1:
[112:21] I want to be in Tahoe. Oh, it's fucking Anderson.

Speaker 5:
[112:24] I fucking hate Anderson. Out of here, Anderson.

Speaker 1:
[112:29] We've got a rivalry for fucking Millenia. God fucking free. He was the one that took Thomas Jefferson out from under me.

Speaker 2:
[112:37] For some reason, I wanted to be the one to march him to hell.

Speaker 3:
[112:44] A young Paul Giamatti as Anderson.

Speaker 1:
[112:48] Hell yeah. Oh, great. It's fucking Seth.

Speaker 6:
[112:51] Hey, asshole. Girlfriend's dead, huh? Gave it all up for this, huh? Pretty cool.

Speaker 3:
[112:57] How is it doing?

Speaker 6:
[112:59] Does fruit taste good, you idiot?

Speaker 1:
[113:04] Oh, I'll see you in a hundred years.

Speaker 6:
[113:05] Oh, I guess I won't. Maybe I'll piss on your grave. Come back this winter. We'll go skiing Tahoe for life.

Speaker 1:
[113:14] But I do. But she asks, she's like, if you want to ask what my favorite thing, it was you.

Speaker 2:
[113:21] Oh, my God. It was all for Seth Plait.

Speaker 1:
[113:25] I did it all for Seth Plait. There is one part where she's like, and we can be Mr. and Mrs. Plait. And I was like, okay.

Speaker 2:
[113:32] So now he's gonna-

Speaker 6:
[113:33] You know what? And just for pissing me off 200 years ago, I'm taking her to hell.

Speaker 2:
[113:37] Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 6:
[113:39] I'm changing her paperwork.

Speaker 2:
[113:41] She's supposed to go upstairs.

Speaker 6:
[113:43] She's going down.

Speaker 2:
[113:44] He messed up by not marrying her immediately. Like, he's losing this Tahoe house. She's losing that apartment in LA. He's losing everything. He's got no social security number. What is he gonna do?

Speaker 1:
[113:55] He starts squatting in her house. That's the only thing that could have described. He's just there, living in that house.

Speaker 2:
[114:01] You're right.

Speaker 1:
[114:01] Because they bury her. He's in a suit at her funeral, which is like, okay, where'd you get that? Any of these questions. Who's arranging this burial? Did they just go, oh, hey, fucking weird guy that was with my daughter. You could just live in her house now, and here's some walking around money.

Speaker 2:
[114:19] Shouldn't we meet her parents here at the funeral or something?

Speaker 1:
[114:22] That'd be nice. Or that uncle. Yeah. Seth, of course, here are the keys to the Tahoe House. You rightfully are on the list now.

Speaker 2:
[114:30] Yes, the mysterious drifter that started dating her the weekend she died. Okay.

Speaker 3:
[114:39] Was he in the truck? Come on, you can tell me.

Speaker 2:
[114:41] I would be suspicious as all get out.

Speaker 1:
[114:43] But he's just sadly moping through the last 18 minutes of this movie. He goes, buys some more stupid fucking pears.

Speaker 3:
[114:50] He buys all the pears, Steve.

Speaker 1:
[114:53] So this could not happen to anyone ever again.

Speaker 6:
[114:54] Pears are what killed my girlfriend.

Speaker 1:
[114:59] But Cassiel is there for him, right? And he's like, am I being punished? And Cassiel's like, come on, you know, the big guy. He's not, he's not doing that. And then this- My Catholic brain is like, yes, he is. Yes, he is. Definitely is.

Speaker 4:
[115:11] I'll tell you this, though.

Speaker 1:
[115:12] I felt nothing when she's fucking dying in the street horribly. I felt everything at this Andre Braugher line of you're living now and one day you'll be dying. And I was like, oh God, it sucks that he's gone.

Speaker 2:
[115:26] Oh, I thought you meant it.

Speaker 4:
[115:26] What up?

Speaker 2:
[115:27] It sucks to live as well.

Speaker 1:
[115:30] I just mean, I miss Andre Braugher.

Speaker 2:
[115:33] Yes, that as well.

Speaker 3:
[115:34] He's great.

Speaker 2:
[115:34] It's also terrible to be in this body and live and die.

Speaker 1:
[115:39] Maybe your body, dude. I'm having a pretty good time over here.

Speaker 2:
[115:42] Must be nice, guys.

Speaker 1:
[115:44] Must be.

Speaker 2:
[115:45] Regular circus over there.

Speaker 1:
[115:48] And basically Braugher is like, hey man, if you knew how this was going to like shake out, which you've still done it. And he says, I'd rather have one kiss, one touch, one smell of her than an eternity without it. All right. OK.

Speaker 2:
[116:04] All right.

Speaker 1:
[116:04] And then he's just eating this pear. He eats the pear and then takes a fucking big old swim at the end.

Speaker 6:
[116:09] Not even a naked one. Nope.

Speaker 2:
[116:11] Jumps into that ocean, tries to body surf like Dennis Franz.

Speaker 1:
[116:15] I guess it's a real like, I am, you want Paul Giamatti there.

Speaker 2:
[116:19] Oh, he's not even enjoying it.

Speaker 6:
[116:20] He's just putting on a show.

Speaker 2:
[116:22] He can't even hear the music.

Speaker 1:
[116:24] Look at him body surfing in jeans. What an idiot, right, everybody?

Speaker 6:
[116:28] I already saw your dick, man. Just go and do it.

Speaker 3:
[116:31] Throw off those pants and let it fly.

Speaker 6:
[116:34] Boo this man, boo.

Speaker 1:
[116:37] Come on, everybody, boo with me. It is kind of insane, though, because we do have one, before the movie ends, we do have one shot of he's back at Dennis Franz's house and like, they're kind of just sitting in the backyard staring at each other. That's the scene. Like, Dennis Franz has to have a big, honkin fucking monologue here to bring this thing home, and Cage just needs to sit there and listen to it. And that's a better way to end this movie than him swimming. Come on. Do you think all these angels are jealous of him swimming, though, because all the angels, like, go from watching the sunrise to, like, just watching him live it up in the ocean? I wouldn't be able to be like, fucking, that idiot. What a, oh, my God, that fucking moron. Oh, my God, she's dead. What an idiot. She's dead, and it's all for fucking pears and pancakes now.

Speaker 3:
[117:23] Pears can't be that good, right? There's just no way.

Speaker 1:
[117:27] You also, I'm sorry, you got to think of fucking more delectable fruit than a pear for this.

Speaker 2:
[117:32] I would say pears are underrated.

Speaker 3:
[117:34] I like pears, but, like, yeah, to give up eternity for, maybe not.

Speaker 2:
[117:38] Yeah, maybe not, yeah. I don't think there is a fruit that I would give up every day.

Speaker 3:
[117:43] A really firm strawberry, that might do it. Yeah, a really, like, a well-done... Yeah. I could do that.

Speaker 1:
[117:51] Interesting.

Speaker 3:
[117:52] A tart blueberry, a bunch of tart blueberries, that would really do it for me.

Speaker 1:
[117:55] A good Granny Smith apple, you know?

Speaker 3:
[117:57] Oh, yeah, very much.

Speaker 1:
[117:59] I mean, again, I don't know about sacrificing eternity just because Granny Smith apple tasted like, you see.

Speaker 3:
[118:04] But they're very good.

Speaker 2:
[118:05] Oh, my God, it tastes like green.

Speaker 1:
[118:10] Oh, my God, color. Was I an angel this whole time? Oh, man.

Speaker 4:
[118:14] But that is the end of City of Angels.

Speaker 1:
[118:16] We'll go around the horn here for some final thoughts and possible recommendations. Chris Cabin.

Speaker 3:
[118:19] Fuck this. Absolutely not garbage. Absolute fucking garbage. I just like I get nothing from this movie. I try very hard and like it's got people I like in it. But Dennis Franz is literally the only time that I feel like a real heart beating in this movie. Like everything else is a big no. It's nice to see Andre Braugher. Of course, he always peppers up anything, but everything else. No, thank you.

Speaker 1:
[118:44] Eric Szyszka.

Speaker 2:
[118:45] It's also no for me. I think, Andrew, you hit the nail on the head earlier that they just don't, Meg Ryan and Nicholas Cage in this movie just don't have a lot of chemistry together. So I think that instantly kind of tanks the endeavor. And it's silly.

Speaker 1:
[119:01] It is pretty silly. Stephen Sajdak, how are you feeling? Yeah, I kind of agree. It's a light no. I think it looks good at points. Cage is trying to do something interesting. Meg Ryan is pretty magnetic just in general. Andre Braugher is very good. Dennis Franz is fun. But the Hollywood mathifying of a great artistic film into whatever this is, you got to just, for the remake role of it all, it's a no. Peter Falk is great. Dennis Franz actually does his best. It's just not enough. Yeah. No, I agree. It doesn't come together. I will say this, especially because we're ragging on the director's filmography. I don't think it's that much of... It's not an incompetently directed movie. Yeah. I think if anything, the direction of Cage, I mean, that's a separate conversation, but they really just the two of them do not have chemistry at all. It's distractingly so when they eventually have to be falling in love. It just doesn't work. But go watch Wings of Desire. Shit, go watch Far Away So Close. It's underrated sequel that not many people know about. Just honestly explore the filmography of Wim Wenders. You will have an absolute blast. Motherfucker has done narrative and documentary. Great filmmaker. Absolutely great filmmaker.

Speaker 2:
[120:19] I'll watch Paris, Texas after those, too.

Speaker 1:
[120:21] Yes. Oh, yeah. Great Paris, Texas. Excellent, excellent. Vim motion picture. But that is going to do it for this episode on City of Angels. As always, if you want more We Hate Movies, check out the Patreon, y'all. patreon.com/wehatemovies where you can get, yes, We Hate Movies episodes just like this. Absolutely 100% commercial free at all times, y'all. And we kicked off remake roll with a Patreon offering, our We Love Movies episode that we do every month. That was about a remake, of course, Martin Scorsese's The Departed, Remake of the City on Fire, or Infernal Affairs, excuse me, remake of Infernal Affairs. That was really great. Chris Cabin, we did a remake on Once in a Lifetime that dropped a couple weeks back.

Speaker 3:
[121:00] We didn't do, we did Bad Seed 2018 from Master of Horror, Rob Lowe. It's a hell of a fucking thing, man. McKenna Grace kind of wipes the floor with Rob Lowe. She's only been in the business for what, for like two years at this point, this is Rob Lowe's story, many decades.

Speaker 1:
[121:19] Sure, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[121:20] Wipes away a lot of fun in that episode.

Speaker 1:
[121:23] Steve Sajdak, last week we had Melrose 210 come out. What were we recapping there? We were talking about the girl from New York, a little Robbie Lamarte episode of Nano 210 and a wild scene setting kind of Melrose place with some Tracy Lord smashing up my favorite character shooters.

Speaker 2:
[121:45] I'm very excited for the cult, the cult arc.

Speaker 1:
[121:49] We're having a lot of fun in the cult. Richard or Martin, what's his name? Martin Abbott. Yeah. And if you are listening to this on the day it comes out, which is the 21st of April, tune in tonight, by the way, y'all, for our top tier Patreon supporters. We're going live on WHM After Dark, our monthly AMA style chat show where we are vibing, imbibing and answering your questions live on the air. That is right. That is available to folks on the Craven tier of our Patreon. And also this week, Steve Sajdak, we have an animation damnation coming out, which is getting into the remake vibe. That's right. It is the reboot or remake of DuckTales from a couple of years ago with David Tennant and Bobby Moynihan, Ben Schwartz, Danny Pooty. Like I've never watched it. It's supposed to be really fun. So I can't wait. By the time it comes out, I'll have watched it. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, I always thought it was a good time. I've not seen the whole thing, but yeah, Beck Bennett as Launchpad McQuack. That's fun. Yeah, Kate McCoochie does the little girl duck there. I can't think of her name. Daisy.

Speaker 2:
[122:55] Abigail.

Speaker 1:
[122:56] Abigail, yes.

Speaker 2:
[122:57] Webigail.

Speaker 1:
[122:58] There it is. There it is. So that's a lot of fun. And we're going to close out this week, Eric Szyszka, with a remade character on The Glee Blossom Reclining.

Speaker 2:
[123:06] Yes, yes. So in 2002 or one or whatever they did, there was an entry describing Darth Sidious as his own character, not exactly. They weren't trying to connect. I mean, everyone knew he was Emperor Palpatine, but they were acting like he wasn't. So we're going to read the EU lore of yesteryear about Darth Sidious before Revenge of the Sith came out. So that'll be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1:
[123:32] Absolutely. And then next week, y'all, we are dropping The Nexus, which is, of course, our Star Trek recap show, back to the regularly scheduled programming on that. So an episode of the original series, the animated series, and then TNG's Ensign Roe, very classic season five episode, very excited about that. And next week also, folks, we're dropping, speaking of our top tier supporters, the next edition of Scaredy Cats, our modern horror recap show, where we are talking all about the Pope's Exorcist. That is a video show that you can get the audio of as a podcast as well. That was a lot of fun, just finishing up the cut on that. It's very, very funny. A very, we all thought, fun movie. Speaking of next week, by the way, Remake Roll has one last bullet in the chamber, Stephen Sajdak, what are we doing? We're ending with probably one of the worst of the bunch, probably the worst of this bunch, Robocop from 2014, ladies and gentlemen. One of our many times of trying to make Joel Kinnaman a movie star, it just wouldn't happen.

Speaker 3:
[124:30] Stop doing that.

Speaker 1:
[124:31] Yeah, society said no many times, including in 2014 when that movie came out, so next week we'll be talking all about the Robocop with Joel Kinnaman and I believe Samuel L. Jackson in the role. Yes, indeed. So we're gonna talk all about that next week. Until then, I've been Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sajdak.

Speaker 2:
[124:47] Eric Szyszka.

Speaker 3:
[124:48] Chris Cabin.

Speaker 1:
[124:49] Take it easy.