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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
[01:50] All right, welcome back to Tuesday's Nano Dosing. It is April 21st, and Big T, we've got a mirrors bet to make.

Speaker 4:
[02:02] Big series this week.

Speaker 1:
[02:03] Rivalry week. Big series. Bravo's and the Nats this week.

Speaker 4:
[02:06] First and second place, right?

Speaker 1:
[02:07] I believe so. I think the Nats are tied for second in the division.

Speaker 4:
[02:12] Yes, that is correct.

Speaker 1:
[02:13] Five games back, but I was just saying before we started to tape that the Nats, not a bad squad. And then Big T was like, well, you're a low 500. 10 and 12. Big T, don't look at the stats.

Speaker 4:
[02:27] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[02:27] Okay. Don't look at it. No, stop looking at the stats.

Speaker 4:
[02:29] You're just going to name some players.

Speaker 1:
[02:31] No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not naming any players.

Speaker 4:
[02:33] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[02:34] About the teams. Big picture. Big picture. Because so far, even though we are 10 and 12, that's it. This has got, we've gotten off to a much, much better start than I anticipated.

Speaker 4:
[02:43] A strong 10 and 12.

Speaker 1:
[02:44] A strong 10 and 12. There are three teams in Major League Baseball that have over 120 runs scored.

Speaker 4:
[02:55] Okay. I'm going to guess.

Speaker 1:
[02:58] Who are they?

Speaker 4:
[02:59] I'm going to guess it's the Dodgers, Braves and Nats.

Speaker 1:
[03:02] There are four teams. Sorry, that happened.

Speaker 4:
[03:05] Dodgers, Braves, Nats and Reds.

Speaker 1:
[03:11] Wrong. It would be the Dodgers. It would be the Washington Nationals. It would be the Houston Astros, surprisingly. Wait, it might just be the three teams and the Atlanta Braves.

Speaker 4:
[03:27] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[03:28] And the Atlanta Braves. So Atlanta Braves lead the league. They have 122 runs scored. The Astros, Nats and Dodgers all have 121 runs scored.

Speaker 4:
[03:39] How's the weather down there?

Speaker 1:
[03:41] So well, I'm just saying our defense, our pitching stinks. Bad pitching, but the bats look a lot better than I thought they'd be. So I'm excited. So far, the rebuild looks promising. Now, if we scored 121 runs and we're below 500, and that makes you ask just how bad is the pitching. We've given up 134 runs, which is second in baseball behind the Astros that have actually given up 140 runs.

Speaker 4:
[04:07] But the run differentials in the NLEs, the Braves are plus 57. That is number one in baseball. In second place are the Marlins at negative one. In third place are the Nats at negative 13. Then the Mets are negative 25. And the Philadelphia Phillies have allowed 38 more runs than they have scored.

Speaker 1:
[04:26] Yeah, now you want to see a crazy division. Look at the NL Central because the two teams at the top of the division, the Reds and the Cardinals right now, they have run differentials of minus eight, both of them. And then every other team in the division has a positive run differential, but...

Speaker 4:
[04:44] Every team's good.

Speaker 1:
[04:45] Every team's good, yeah. I think every team is a game and a half apart.

Speaker 4:
[04:48] The Cardinals will fall off, the Reds probably will, but a lot of good teams in that, a lot of good baseball.

Speaker 1:
[04:54] A lot of good baseball being played. I think if you're doing a rebuild, it's way more encouraging to see the bats looking really good, right? And then the pitching just stinks.

Speaker 4:
[05:03] Yeah, I mean, you would prefer to have both or either, but yeah. I think there's a lot of a lot of analytics people will tell you, there's no such thing as a pitching prospect. So I think they would probably agree with you that you would rather your bats. The thinking is you should you should never be reliant on pitching.

Speaker 1:
[05:24] Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 4:
[05:26] Because it's very volatile, especially with injuries now.

Speaker 1:
[05:29] Agreed. And you can. Yeah, you can. I don't know if it's easier to address, but I think in my dumb brain, it's easier to get average at pitching. Right. You might not put together like a great pitching staff, but I feel like it's easier to become an average to slightly above average pitching team than it is to become an above average hitting team.

Speaker 4:
[05:50] Probably.

Speaker 1:
[05:51] So as far as I'm going to give the rebuild, what are we, 22 games into the 2026 season?

Speaker 4:
[05:57] That's correct.

Speaker 1:
[05:58] I'm going to give the rebuild so far for the Nationals an A minus.

Speaker 4:
[06:01] Wow. You don't even need to see 500.

Speaker 1:
[06:05] It's a complete rebuild and we're ahead of schedule right now.

Speaker 4:
[06:08] All right. Yeah. But big series this week for Gamer.

Speaker 1:
[06:11] Massive. What do you think, 22?

Speaker 4:
[06:15] I would love to get three. We're the only team in baseball that hasn't lost a series. So two would be sales pitching in this series. Like we should win three of these games, I think.

Speaker 1:
[06:26] Probably. So we got a lot to talk about today. A lot to get into. How's your weekend?

Speaker 4:
[06:34] Average.

Speaker 1:
[06:35] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[06:37] Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 1:
[06:37] It's pretty solid.

Speaker 4:
[06:38] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[06:40] On the sheet that you sent over this morning, there's just a link to a post from the New York Post, and it just says Big T vindicated.

Speaker 4:
[06:50] Yes, go watch that.

Speaker 1:
[06:51] I did. It's a video of a tiger leaping into the crowd after the circus barrier collapses.

Speaker 4:
[06:58] And what happens?

Speaker 1:
[06:59] And so, Big T, this looks terrifying.

Speaker 4:
[07:06] Of course. But what does the tiger do?

Speaker 1:
[07:08] The tiger runs away.

Speaker 4:
[07:09] He just hangs out. He just walks around.

Speaker 1:
[07:11] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[07:12] Doesn't try to eat anybody. Nothing. As I said, you would much rather be face to face with a tiger than a hippo. Hippo, that happens. You're dead. Someone, a lot of people would have gotten out, but someone's dead.

Speaker 1:
[07:25] Now, what the fuck is wrong with these people that aren't getting up and leaving?

Speaker 4:
[07:30] I don't know. I think they were just in such shock. I wish Arian was here.

Speaker 1:
[07:36] Now, this does vindicate me for saying that I'd rather get into the ring, like a boxing ring with a tiger than Mike Tyson.

Speaker 4:
[07:42] I think that's a little different.

Speaker 1:
[07:44] The tiger might get distracted.

Speaker 4:
[07:47] I guess it is kind of the same thinking, so.

Speaker 1:
[07:50] I also don't understand why you have a collapsible barrier.

Speaker 4:
[07:54] Yeah. I mean, this has to be in like China or somewhere, right?

Speaker 1:
[07:59] You would think so. The tiger is just like peace. I'm out.

Speaker 4:
[08:05] I'm looking up where it is.

Speaker 1:
[08:09] I think tiger is pound for pound, the coolest and also most terrifying animal in the world.

Speaker 4:
[08:13] Coolest?

Speaker 1:
[08:14] Yeah. I think they're so cool, man. Tigers are odd. Tigers have great.

Speaker 4:
[08:17] They're very majestic.

Speaker 1:
[08:19] Yeah, they've got drip.

Speaker 4:
[08:20] Are they cool?

Speaker 1:
[08:21] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[08:22] Are they the coolest?

Speaker 1:
[08:23] Name a cooler animal.

Speaker 4:
[08:26] Stingray?

Speaker 1:
[08:27] Not cool. Stingray is cooler than a tiger?

Speaker 4:
[08:30] I'm thinking out loud. I've never given this much thought. Let me think.

Speaker 1:
[08:34] Clearly, you haven't.

Speaker 4:
[08:35] You know what's cool, and it's not terrifying or anything. The chameleon is cool.

Speaker 1:
[08:42] That's true. Yeah, I'll give you that.

Speaker 4:
[08:44] That's sick. I don't understand how that works. I don't know if it, almost 29 years old, I'm supposed to know how that works, but I don't. What other animals are cool? A lion is cooler than a tiger.

Speaker 1:
[08:59] Disagree.

Speaker 4:
[09:01] Explain?

Speaker 1:
[09:02] Disagree.

Speaker 4:
[09:04] You're just, your brain is getting striped-mogged right now.

Speaker 1:
[09:07] I am, I am.

Speaker 4:
[09:08] You see the stripes in your lips.

Speaker 1:
[09:09] I see the stripes.

Speaker 4:
[09:10] Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1:
[09:11] Yeah, but the stripes are, there's a reason why the stripes exist. It's because they're fucking awesome. What am I supposed to ignore the stripes with a tiger?

Speaker 4:
[09:19] No, you can take it into consideration. By the way, this was in Russia, which checks out.

Speaker 1:
[09:22] Yeah, that does absolutely check out. Yeah, the stripes make a difference, 100%. Does the lion's mane make a difference? Yes, that is a factor. Are you talking about a female lion or are you talking about a male lion?

Speaker 4:
[09:33] In my mind, I was envisioning a male.

Speaker 1:
[09:35] Okay, a male lion, somewhat cool, but they always got a lot of scars on their face. Have you ever seen like-

Speaker 4:
[09:39] Right, because they're out there fucking people up.

Speaker 1:
[09:41] Yeah, I mean, we're talking two different things though.

Speaker 4:
[09:44] You just named something that's super cool.

Speaker 1:
[09:46] No, no, no, no.

Speaker 4:
[09:47] If there was a dude walking around and he was cock of the walk just big time and he had scars all over him, you would say those are cool.

Speaker 1:
[09:55] Not necessarily. I'd say that person's scary. That individual is scary. I would say that the tiger is cooler, like the sleek tiger, the stripes, how it walks, like in silence, the size of a tiger.

Speaker 4:
[10:09] Lions are roughly the same size.

Speaker 1:
[10:11] I think tiger is bigger. Yeah, I think. Full-grown, a grown-ass Bengal tiger will fuck you up.

Speaker 4:
[10:21] Well, no one's disputing that.

Speaker 1:
[10:23] I'm also not disputing your chameleon. The chameleon is a very cool animal, yeah. But if we're talking like which amongst the jungle cats are the coolest, it's tiger. And I personally don't think it's close.

Speaker 4:
[10:37] So Bengal tigers are typically 4 to 550 pounds and 9 to 10 feet long.

Speaker 1:
[10:46] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[10:47] Definitely scary. Male lion size. Uh, 330 to 550. And that gives me, uh, and about 10 feet long. So pretty similar.

Speaker 1:
[11:06] I'll take a tiger any day.

Speaker 4:
[11:10] Is there a YouTube video of a tiger and lion fighting?

Speaker 1:
[11:12] I've looked that up before. There's a lot of, uh, a lot of, like, what if this happened?

Speaker 4:
[11:16] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:16] Where people just kind of make up how the fight goes. Like, I saw one fight, I think, where the tiger was winning, but then it got, like, dust in its eye. And then the lion jumped on top of it and killed it.

Speaker 4:
[11:27] This looks real.

Speaker 1:
[11:29] It's boxing. Just hitting each other with two pieces, three pieces.

Speaker 4:
[11:32] Yeah, it's not that. It's a lot of slap fighting.

Speaker 1:
[11:36] Yeah, they're not really trying to kill.

Speaker 4:
[11:38] Because they respect each other.

Speaker 1:
[11:40] Yeah, they do. But yeah, I'm Team Tiger. And there's zero question about that. I won't apologize for it either. We got some more stuff to talk about over the weekend. Can you enlighten me on to the RFK Jr. raccoon penis story?

Speaker 4:
[11:54] Yeah, I hate when stuff happens on a Thursday. And like then because now we've got five days till our next show comes out. And it's like, this is old news at this point.

Speaker 1:
[12:02] But we should talk about it.

Speaker 4:
[12:03] I mean, we don't have a choice. He cut the penis off a raccoon and journaled about it.

Speaker 1:
[12:08] Right.

Speaker 4:
[12:10] That's a story made for a Tuesday, Macrodosing.

Speaker 1:
[12:13] It's in his book, RFK Jr. The Fall and Rise.

Speaker 4:
[12:16] A book about him, not his book.

Speaker 1:
[12:18] Yeah, a book about him. He says, I was standing in front of my parked car on I-684, cutting the penis out of a road-killed raccoon, thinking about how weird some of my family members have turned out to be.

Speaker 4:
[12:29] Which is such an incredible sentence.

Speaker 1:
[12:31] That's an amazing, amazing piece of writing. My kids waited patiently in the car, he said. Later, telling People Magazine, he collected the raccoon's genitals so he could study them later. What did he find out from studying them?

Speaker 4:
[12:46] By the way, there's something hidden in this story that could be its own headline. His daughter, Kick Kennedy, recalled in a 2012 interview with Town and Country magazine, her father's fascination with animal viscera once put a smelly damper on a childhood family vacation to Hyannis Port, Massachusetts. Upon learning, a whale carcass had washed ashore on nearby Squaw Island. The elder Kennedy made a beeline for the beach and proceeded to decapitate the animal with a chainsaw.

Speaker 1:
[13:12] Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's that story.

Speaker 4:
[13:15] That's in the eighth paragraph.

Speaker 1:
[13:17] There's also the story about when he planted the dead bear in Central Park.

Speaker 4:
[13:21] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[13:22] This guy has a fascination with dead animals. So I need to know, number one, why did he want the raccoon's penis? Like, what was it about that part of the raccoon that he wanted to study? Number two, what did he learn from the raccoon's penis? And these are the questions that have not been answered so far.

Speaker 5:
[13:44] Yeah. Where are the findings?

Speaker 4:
[13:45] There's only one man that can answer that.

Speaker 1:
[13:47] I would like RFK Jr. RFK Jr. I know that you're active on x.com, the everything app. It's all happening on X. We are the media. Ilhan's given us that that duty. I was about to say, right, but it's part of a duty. It's a calling on x.com. I pose to you, I would like to know what you learned from the raccoon's penis when you studied it later. Was it fuzzy? How many holes did it have?

Speaker 4:
[14:13] And you know, he's doing...

Speaker 1:
[14:14] Is it telescoping?

Speaker 4:
[14:15] He's doing himself a disservice by not addressing this because we are only left to speculate what he did.

Speaker 1:
[14:21] Right, right. So every day he remains silent on what he found out about the raccoon's penis. We're probably having thousands and thousands of people that go out there harvesting their own raccoon penises.

Speaker 4:
[14:35] You think?

Speaker 1:
[14:35] Yeah, yeah. He has just created a thousand RFK Juniors by not by not explaining what he found out. Like it does, the fact that it does not address what he found out when he studied it later tells me that there's something that they're hiding from us.

Speaker 4:
[14:49] Yeah, TMZ's new Washington Bureau called him and asked him about it, and he just laughed. He didn't answer. They asked him what he did with it, and he just said, ha ha ha. So we're only left to guess.

Speaker 1:
[15:02] He doesn't know what to say to that. Yeah. The Washington DC TMZ Bureau has, they've gotten off to a pretty hot start. They just basically ask questions that everybody would like to ask to the Congress people, and the Congress people are just woefully unprepared to answer.

Speaker 4:
[15:15] How did this take so long?

Speaker 1:
[15:16] I don't know. I don't know. It's just like, all you got to do is send one dude with an Australian accent to ask all these questions, and they have no idea how to respond to them. Lindsey Graham, tell me about your bubble wand trip to Disney World. He just, I'm not talking about that. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4:
[15:34] Yeah. I don't know what took them so long. How long has TMZ been around since 90s?

Speaker 1:
[15:40] I think so. Yeah. What was TMZ? Were they originally like a magazine? Like one of the tabloids that you get at checkout?

Speaker 4:
[15:48] That sounds plausible. I do not know.

Speaker 6:
[15:50] It says it was created on November 8th, 2005.

Speaker 4:
[15:54] Wow.

Speaker 6:
[15:55] And it was always, it was a celebrity news website that quickly gained prominence with major exclusives like Mel Gibson's 2006 DUI arrest.

Speaker 4:
[16:08] They had Kobe first too.

Speaker 1:
[16:09] Yeah, they had, I think, Michael Jackson first too.

Speaker 4:
[16:13] Do you know what TMZ stands for? I just learned it.

Speaker 1:
[16:15] No.

Speaker 4:
[16:17] TMZ stands for 30 Mile Zone, a term referring to the historic studio zone radius in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1:
[16:22] Oh, shit.

Speaker 6:
[16:23] So it was at first a website in 2005 and then it became a TV show TMZ on TV in 2007. So almost 20 years.

Speaker 4:
[16:32] By the way, I know it felt obvious from the beginning. I think it's very apparent now that Nancy Guthrie has passed away, but we just gave up on that. Nobody's looking into that anymore.

Speaker 6:
[16:46] Cash is drunk.

Speaker 4:
[16:48] But like the police there should be.

Speaker 6:
[16:51] I know. It's so sad.

Speaker 4:
[16:52] And maybe they are and it's just nobody cares anymore.

Speaker 6:
[16:56] I also think if there's no updates, like there's no updates to say, you know.

Speaker 4:
[17:01] Yeah. Well, did you see last week, Savannah Guthrie was interviewing Anne Hathaway? I think on the Today Show and then they came back from commercial and she was gone and Hoda replaced her. So there was speculation as to what if there was something new or.

Speaker 1:
[17:21] So they found a new ransom note too, right?

Speaker 4:
[17:23] A week or two ago. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[17:25] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[17:25] TMZ got sent another one.

Speaker 1:
[17:27] So where are we at right now? What is the status?

Speaker 6:
[17:30] Nothing.

Speaker 1:
[17:32] There's absolutely no update.

Speaker 6:
[17:34] I think they get ransom notes, but I don't know if you can completely corrupt like confirm that that's from a real source. Right.

Speaker 1:
[17:42] It could be.

Speaker 6:
[17:43] Or we can at least.

Speaker 1:
[17:44] It could be like a psycho or a weirdo that once again involve.

Speaker 6:
[17:48] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:
[17:49] That sends their own ransom note.

Speaker 6:
[17:50] Yeah. But it's not like, I mean, also they're not going to tell the general public before there's something concrete. Like they're not going to. It's the same thing with Idaho 4 where everyone was like, how have they not found anything? Then all of a sudden they pop out with Brian Coburg and they're like, oh yeah, we busted him like three days ago and whatever. So I'm sure that hopefully they have something in there is not telling the general public. But I mean, it doesn't seem to have been that there's any leads or anything. They still haven't found that person that was in the mask from the ring camera.

Speaker 1:
[18:28] That's crazy too.

Speaker 6:
[18:30] Yeah, having the ring camera footage and still not knowing who it is is really scary.

Speaker 1:
[18:37] Yeah, I mean, I guess I might have drastically overestimated the capabilities of the surveillance state. Yeah, I figured that something like this, and I don't know anything about the neighborhood that she lives in, but I figured doing something like this would be impossible to get away with, given not only like the ring camera that was at that house, but like neighbors' ring cameras, cameras when you go through like toll booths, cameras on convenience stores, just all that stuff like the ability to track people's phones wherever they go. I would think that if you just gathered all that data, you could find cars that were in the area.

Speaker 6:
[19:17] Rare surveillance state L.

Speaker 1:
[19:21] Yeah, big time.

Speaker 6:
[19:22] Yeah, usually now they're catching them pretty quick. This is a rare L from the surveillance state.

Speaker 1:
[19:27] I did also read the article about Kash. Oh my God. He likes to have a cocktail or two.

Speaker 6:
[19:34] Bring your checkbook. I'm suing your ass.

Speaker 1:
[19:36] Yeah, so he's kind of like changed his tone a little bit from, let's go, we're going to do the lawsuit thing. And now that's kind of changed to him being like, the fact that they're writing this about me tells me I'm winning. Which is, that's like step two, I think maybe after he talked to some lawyers who were like, hey dude, they're going to get discovery on you. And then that means they have access to like every text that you've sent.

Speaker 6:
[19:57] That's the last thing Kash Patel needs.

Speaker 1:
[19:58] And you do not want that cash, I promise you.

Speaker 6:
[20:00] That is the last thing Kash Patel needs.

Speaker 4:
[20:03] There's been a development on that in the last two hours. Have you seen that?

Speaker 1:
[20:06] Oh, no, I have not.

Speaker 4:
[20:07] FBI Director Kash Patel is suing the Atlantic for $250 million.

Speaker 1:
[20:11] Oh shit, really?

Speaker 4:
[20:12] Over its story on his alleged drinking.

Speaker 1:
[20:14] Okay, where's this news?

Speaker 4:
[20:15] CBS? I mean, it's everywhere, but that's where.

Speaker 1:
[20:18] I'm going to read about that.

Speaker 4:
[20:20] FBI Director Kash Patel filed a defamation lawsuit against the Atlantic magazine on Monday, saying a recent story about his alleged frequent drinking and absences included, quote, false and obviously fabricated claims.

Speaker 6:
[20:29] They had nine sources, so they got nine people to lie about the same thing.

Speaker 1:
[20:37] Yeah, I mean, if they did that, then like respect, that would be a great way to take down the news.

Speaker 6:
[20:46] But yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1:
[20:48] Like if you hated the Atlantic, you get a group of people together to like be sources for them for an article and just lie to them. And then if they run with that story, then it's like you're fake news for trusting the lies.

Speaker 4:
[21:05] That would be sick.

Speaker 1:
[21:07] I guarantee that they've tried not specifically like this administration, but like people have tried doing that.

Speaker 6:
[21:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[21:15] Now, okay, so he's suing them for 250 million. So again, not a lawyer. Always need to say that. 250 million is a lot of money. Where did they come up with that number?

Speaker 4:
[21:27] I think if you're claiming damage to your reputation and whatever, you can just kind of name it whatever number you want.

Speaker 1:
[21:35] But he, so he's got a job with the FBI and the salary is public, right?

Speaker 6:
[21:40] Yes. Let me see how much he makes.

Speaker 1:
[21:41] Yeah, I would guess, what would you think the director of the FBI makes?

Speaker 4:
[21:46] I mean, the president only makes 300 or 400 grand. I'm going to say the director of the FBI makes $280,000.

Speaker 1:
[21:55] I think it, let me go three. But also he had his podcast thing going before that.

Speaker 4:
[22:02] We're just talking state income.

Speaker 1:
[22:03] Yeah, we're talking his income right now.

Speaker 5:
[22:05] And his successful girlfriend.

Speaker 1:
[22:06] Because that's right.

Speaker 6:
[22:07] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[22:08] Do you think she's going to do a prenup with him?

Speaker 4:
[22:11] I'm seeing 200, that's just on the Google AI thing.

Speaker 6:
[22:14] I keep saying that he has made at least 2.1 million from his other ventures.

Speaker 1:
[22:24] Okay.

Speaker 6:
[22:26] Yeah, it says the estimated salary is 220,000. Isn't it public?

Speaker 1:
[22:30] Yeah, it should be.

Speaker 4:
[22:33] But maybe for that high of cabinet positions, it's not public?

Speaker 1:
[22:39] Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4:
[22:40] I would say 200 to 300 grand.

Speaker 1:
[22:41] Yeah, that sounds fair.

Speaker 6:
[22:43] Because I know Congress is 174,000.

Speaker 5:
[22:47] Yeah, this says as FBI Director, he would receive a federal salary likely around 200,000. But that's just an estimate.

Speaker 1:
[22:56] So if he is suing for 250 million, that implies if he got fired from his job, you could be like, yeah, this cost me if I'd worked at this gig for 100 years.

Speaker 4:
[23:06] Well, that's the actual damages I'm sure are a million dollars. And then the punitive damages are 249.

Speaker 1:
[23:14] Right.

Speaker 6:
[23:15] And then you have to think about Alexis' Spotify streaming. And that's probably 249.

Speaker 1:
[23:21] So they'll have to go through discovery. They'll have to prove that the reporter acted with actual malice.

Speaker 4:
[23:30] They named her as a defendant as well.

Speaker 1:
[23:32] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[23:33] It seems like both sides are pretty dug in, which is interesting because.

Speaker 1:
[23:38] So when it comes to the defamation, they have to prove that the reporter knew that the claims were false.

Speaker 4:
[23:45] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[23:45] They have to prove that the reporter acted with actual malice to try to damage Kash Patel. So it's very difficult. And then they have to prove that it did end up damaging him. So it's super difficult to prove a defamation against a public figure, which is an entirely different conversation, because I do think that at times that it's not great that it's so hard for somebody to win a lawsuit to defend themselves if they haven't done anything wrong. But in this case, it seems like most lawyers would be like, hey, they're going to get your phone. They're going to get every text message you've sent. This is a bad idea. My guess is he's probably hoping that they settle out of court.

Speaker 4:
[24:27] Yeah. So here's what would be interesting. Let's say what you described is what happened. They conjured up this group of fake sources who gave this story to this reporter. She feels she has it thoroughly vetted, goes with it. I believe it's reckless disregard for the truth, is the terminology that you have to have acted with.

Speaker 1:
[24:48] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[24:49] Would that be applicable in that scenario?

Speaker 1:
[24:51] No, I don't think that it would. In fact, I think that if there were sources that presented themselves as being real.

Speaker 4:
[24:58] And they might be. These people probably work in the FBI.

Speaker 1:
[25:02] Right. But let's just say hypothetically, every source is making it up about Kash. That Kash, the only time he's had a beer since he's been Director of the FBI is in the locker room with the US hockey team. And that's on camera. But besides that, sober. Right? If all these people from the FBI acted as sources, lied to the reporter from the Atlantic and said, Hey, Kash is doing all this. He's passed out. We had to get like the jaws of life out because we thought we couldn't get into his room. And he's putting us at like a, in a difficult position in terms of national security. He's a danger to the security of the United States. If they made all that stuff up and they told the reporter that, the reporter corroborated that story with other sources at the FBI. In that event, couldn't Kash Patel just sue all the people from the FBI that made up those stories? Cause it seems like they would be the ones that slandered him and acted with actual malice to hurt him. Even if maybe their agenda was to feed a fake story to get the reporter in trouble for reporting something that's completely made up and be like, haha, made it up.

Speaker 4:
[26:14] Yeah, I don't know how that would work.

Speaker 1:
[26:16] So I guess it could be, so who else does he name as a defendant in this?

Speaker 4:
[26:20] It was the Atlantic and Sarah Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 1:
[26:24] So it has nothing to do with the sources.

Speaker 4:
[26:26] It's just the 19 page lawsuit filed in the district of Columbia seeking 250 million of damages. Sarah Fitzpatrick, the reporter who wrote the story is also named as a defendant.

Speaker 1:
[26:36] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[26:37] So yeah, those are the only two listed that I see.

Speaker 1:
[26:40] I want to see what happens.

Speaker 4:
[26:42] Well, cause he either, but in the scenario you laid out, he would know who the sources are, right? Or are you saying, so I guess it could have gone two ways. Kash Patel could have given them, said, we're going to plant this story and see if they run with it.

Speaker 1:
[26:57] Like an op, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[26:59] Or these people conspired against him to do it. So it could actually be they're on his team or against him.

Speaker 1:
[27:05] Right. It could be Deep State.

Speaker 4:
[27:07] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:07] I think that's the angle that he's probably going with is like the, there's at least nine people at the FBI that got together and they are the Deep State and they don't like the fact that I've fired some of their former co-workers or like rocked the boat too much. And so they conspired against me to plan a fake story to get me fired. And then those people should then probably be the ones that, because if you're the reporter and you've got nine people from the FBI telling you this, you try to vet it. I don't know how the legal process works for that. I don't know all the different hoops they have to jump through to get it published. Because I know that like if you're the Wall Street Journal, if you're the New York Times, if you're like CBS News, you've got so many lawyers that work for you. That they tell you, okay, you need to button this up and make sure that this is ironclad before you publish it. I don't know how it works at the Atlantic. But if it's not true, they definitely expose themselves to, yeah, massive, massive lawsuit. The question is, is it true? Cash does seem like a party guy to me.

Speaker 4:
[28:11] Yeah, it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility. But do you go after a publication with a $250 million lawsuit if you're not absolutely positive?

Speaker 1:
[28:21] You could because you want to intimidate them.

Speaker 4:
[28:23] Seems like a terrible idea.

Speaker 1:
[28:26] It might not be. If you have no intention of ever going to trial, you just file the lawsuit for 250 million. It makes you look like you're fighting it.

Speaker 4:
[28:33] Try to get a settlement.

Speaker 1:
[28:34] Try to get a settlement. And then it signals to maybe if you have a boss out there that pays a lot of attention to the news, maybe your boss sees that you're filing a massive lawsuit to fight whatever this is. And he's like, good job, Kash. Way to fight. That's another possible explanation.

Speaker 4:
[28:51] But then you're going to look bad at some point when you drop it.

Speaker 1:
[28:54] No, because when you drop a lawsuit, it never gets the same amount of attention as when the lawsuits filed.

Speaker 4:
[29:00] That's true.

Speaker 1:
[29:00] And there's also a good chance that you could just settle it out of court. And the Atlantic says, we will pay you a million dollars to make this go away. Because we don't feel like spending all this money on a legal department, and it's going to be a long fight, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's a million dollars. And they could be like, okay, done.

Speaker 4:
[29:19] That actually is nuts that you could just sue somebody. If this story is true, you put a massive lawsuit against them, and then it's cheaper for them to just give you a million dollars.

Speaker 1:
[29:33] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[29:33] Than to go through and prove it. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:36] Because you have the army of attorneys that you would have to hire to go up against the director of the FBI would be just overwhelming. Now, they do have like a lot of places have lawsuit insurance. But then if you use it too much, then the premiums on that go up just like any other kind of insurance. So one of the claims that he's denying in the lawsuit is that he drinks to the point of intoxication and drinks to the point of excess. I don't know how you... That would be a tough one to prove is false when there's... When you're on camera drinking beer. Right? So the lawsuit listed 17 allegations in the article that the legal team alleges were false and defamatory statements of fact, including that he is known to drink to the point of obvious intoxication. That is a very tough... Unless you never drink beer. That's a tough one to prove.

Speaker 4:
[30:32] Yeah?

Speaker 1:
[30:33] Because then you're just like, I... Yeah, you know, I drank six beers, but I was not obviously intoxicated that day. And then other people will be like, yeah, you were. And then you... That's all you can say.

Speaker 5:
[30:45] He is notably on camera celebrating with a lot of alcohol.

Speaker 1:
[30:50] And then, yeah, the Atlantic said, we stand by our reporting on Kash Patel. We will vigorously defend the Atlantic and our journalists from this meritless lawsuit. It's the second lawsuit that Patel has filed in connection with media reports of his allegations of drinking and partying. Last year, he sued Frank Figliotti, an MSNBC analyst and former FBI agent, over claim that Patel was spending more time in nightclubs than the FBI's headquarters. That case filed in the US. District Court for the Southern District of Texas is still pending. So he's got two lawsuits right now. Sorry for partying. They're the sorry for partying lawsuits from Kash Patel. And listen, I don't want to tell a guy that you can't hang out. You can't have a good time. He's a sports fan. He likes hockey. Good for him. But you just can't do it if you're the director of literally the FBI.

Speaker 6:
[31:41] When he's like, what, can I not live my life? No, I actually don't want you living your life for the next four years. I kind of just want you focused on this one thing.

Speaker 1:
[31:47] Yeah, again, I want the most no-nonsense person.

Speaker 6:
[31:51] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:51] Like the toughest hang that you could ever have.

Speaker 6:
[31:53] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:54] I want it to be like the strictest teacher you've ever encountered in your entire life. A guy that has zero sense of humor, a guy that goes home and eats the exact same dinner every night.

Speaker 6:
[32:05] With his German Shepherd.

Speaker 1:
[32:07] Yeah. He watches his same program every night. He does a crossword puzzle for fun at lunch.

Speaker 4:
[32:15] Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. All the other stuff, okay. What's wrong with that?

Speaker 1:
[32:19] Nothing's wrong. That's his one source of entertainment that he ever has, that he allows himself to have.

Speaker 6:
[32:24] Doesn't have a Twitter.

Speaker 4:
[32:24] You're not a crossword guy?

Speaker 1:
[32:25] No, crosswords are great.

Speaker 4:
[32:27] You sounded pretty anti-C-word right there.

Speaker 1:
[32:29] I can see how that might have come across as anti-crossword. I'm saying the only outlet that he has is he does one crossword puzzle a day.

Speaker 6:
[32:37] Doesn't want to get too involved.

Speaker 1:
[32:39] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[32:39] And doesn't do it on his phone because he doesn't want to be tracked. He doesn't want someday to be subpoenaed.

Speaker 4:
[32:45] I respect getting a little ink under your fingernails. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:48] I want him to be.

Speaker 4:
[32:49] You're talking to the guy that takes a scorebook to baseball games. I like a little pen and paper.

Speaker 6:
[32:54] We're all on the same page.

Speaker 4:
[32:55] Now, I do the crossword on my phone.

Speaker 6:
[32:57] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:58] You know what? I'll even allow him that, Big T. I would say that you can do your crossword. A guy that does his crossword by himself at lunch every day. And then once a year, he goes to a single baseball game and he keeps score.

Speaker 4:
[33:13] CPFT, these kids now, they want to play all these little word games. I played Wordle today and what's the connections? Is that what it is? And New York Times bought all of these and so they're now all on this app. And my crossword app is now cluttered with all this Gen Z bullshit that I have to wade through to get to the real crossword. I got to get through connections and Wordle and Bloggle and all this other shit.

Speaker 6:
[33:38] Strands.

Speaker 4:
[33:39] To get to, I don't even know what that one is, to get to the real stuff. And it's upsetting.

Speaker 1:
[33:45] It is very, it sounds upsetting.

Speaker 4:
[33:48] I pay a monthly subscription to do my crossword. Yeah. And all these kids now, all they want to do is play Wordle. It's a joke.

Speaker 6:
[33:54] But honestly, that's the vibe I want the FBI director to have.

Speaker 4:
[34:01] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[34:04] I don't want Kash Patel to feel joy for the next four years. Not because I don't like him, which I don't. I need him to be zoned in. Hey, I need you to tap out of the Twitter. I need you to get out of the space.

Speaker 1:
[34:16] Ideally, he would have no idea what Twitter was.

Speaker 6:
[34:19] Ideally.

Speaker 1:
[34:19] Like he would have a technology guy that would explain Twitter to him for important cases.

Speaker 6:
[34:23] What does Bill Belichick call it?

Speaker 5:
[34:27] Snapface.

Speaker 4:
[34:27] That's performative.

Speaker 6:
[34:29] But I want him to be... I want him to snapface real, real.

Speaker 5:
[34:32] Now especially because he has a 28-year-old girlfriend.

Speaker 4:
[34:35] He's on him now, yeah.

Speaker 6:
[34:36] Right. But I hate this level of unseriousness I have to deal with Kash Patel. Like you need to fucking tighten it up.

Speaker 1:
[34:44] Yeah. He eats the exact same dinner every night, which is like meatloaf, white rice, white rice slash potatoes.

Speaker 6:
[34:54] Yeah. A starch of some variety.

Speaker 1:
[34:56] A starch. And then he's got his peas and his carrots.

Speaker 4:
[35:00] That sounds like prison.

Speaker 5:
[35:01] It's like the movie Hitman before Glenn Powell becomes the Hitman in the show.

Speaker 1:
[35:06] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[35:07] That's exactly what he is. He's like a high school teacher. He wears his cargo pants.

Speaker 6:
[35:11] Button up all the way to the top. No buttons.

Speaker 5:
[35:15] Drives to work, drives home. That's about it.

Speaker 1:
[35:17] You know, I could even see him, because he gets home so late, probably. In my mind, he gets home at like 915 every night, 930.

Speaker 5:
[35:24] Because he's working so hard.

Speaker 1:
[35:25] He's working so hard. But he tapes the baseball game. So he gets home and he's got the VHS and he taped the baseball game and he pops it in, watches it from the start. And then he sits there by himself.

Speaker 5:
[35:39] And he doesn't know what Twitter is, so he doesn't have spoilers.

Speaker 6:
[35:43] Does the scorebook on his recliner. Has a recliner.

Speaker 1:
[35:46] Maybe he has a small dog.

Speaker 6:
[35:48] Oh, see, I think German Shepherd.

Speaker 1:
[35:49] I think it might be a small dog that he like scratches its ears. And it's funny because he's such a serious guy.

Speaker 6:
[35:54] You'd think he'd have the German Shepherd.

Speaker 1:
[35:56] But he goes for a walk and it's like a little Boston Terrier. Yeah, that's like making all the funny noises.

Speaker 6:
[36:00] Yeah, does he have a wife?

Speaker 1:
[36:02] Ex-wife. Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[36:04] Kids?

Speaker 1:
[36:06] Yeah. Daughter.

Speaker 6:
[36:07] Daughter, I knew it.

Speaker 1:
[36:08] She kind of hates him, but.

Speaker 6:
[36:10] She respects.

Speaker 1:
[36:10] But yeah, it's just like, oh, that's daddy.

Speaker 6:
[36:12] That's just dad.

Speaker 1:
[36:13] I understand why you couldn't be the former dad.

Speaker 6:
[36:16] Yeah. What did he do before this?

Speaker 1:
[36:18] Just cop, just cop his entire life.

Speaker 6:
[36:20] Cop his entire life, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:21] Cop slash prosecutor.

Speaker 4:
[36:23] Would you be able to tape a sporting event anymore? I couldn't do that. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:30] What is the, if we're doing like the Super Bowl, how long do you think you could last with the Super Bowl without it being spoiled?

Speaker 4:
[36:39] Where are you?

Speaker 1:
[36:41] Your normal day-to-day life here in Chicago.

Speaker 4:
[36:44] Right. But on a Sunday night, you're not, in order for there to be the necessity of you taping it, you'd have to be doing something else.

Speaker 1:
[36:55] I'm saying if there was a competition, to see who could go the longest without...

Speaker 4:
[36:58] I mean, you could just sit in your house with no screens on, and you could not know for as long as you want.

Speaker 1:
[37:02] Yeah. But like...

Speaker 4:
[37:05] But I'm saying if I have to go somewhere, if I'm obligated to be somewhere at the time a game is on, I have to figure out how I can watch it live, because I can't tape anything now. And now you can watch stuff on your phone, so it's good. But are people still doing that?

Speaker 1:
[37:24] No, I don't think so. I don't think... Yeah. It's impossible to avoid the spoilers. But like if you absolutely had to avoid a spoiler, let's call it game one of the World Series Big T, and you didn't want to find out who won. No, let's just go back to the Super Bowl. If it was a contest to see who could last the longest without getting the Super Bowl spoiled for you, how long do you think you could go if you really, really tried? What the rules are, you have to go about your data.

Speaker 4:
[37:52] I could make it to Monday morning coming in here, and then obviously I would find out.

Speaker 1:
[37:56] Because you would just go to sleep. You'd fall asleep early and not look at a screen. And then you'd come in here and you'd find out.

Speaker 4:
[38:03] If I didn't want to, I could go weeks.

Speaker 1:
[38:06] You think weeks? I don't know. I think it would slip in.

Speaker 4:
[38:12] I mean, the answer is just however long you can go without your phone.

Speaker 1:
[38:16] Or TV.

Speaker 4:
[38:17] Or even just social media. You could do whatever you want as long as you stay off social media. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[38:24] I think you could try. You could you could sit for hours on end coming up with different words that you wanted to mute on social media and it would still slip by.

Speaker 4:
[38:32] Yeah. I've got a lot of muted words.

Speaker 1:
[38:35] Oh, yeah. Has there been an update on those?

Speaker 4:
[38:37] I haven't added any in a long time, I don't think. Accounts, certainly, but not words, I don't think.

Speaker 1:
[38:43] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[38:45] A lot of them are years and years old.

Speaker 1:
[38:48] I did see last week that there's a new Top Gun coming out.

Speaker 4:
[38:53] Really?

Speaker 1:
[38:53] See that?

Speaker 4:
[38:54] I did not.

Speaker 1:
[38:54] It's in production right now. I don't know if that means that we're still in script development or if we start to shoot.

Speaker 4:
[38:58] I'd have Top Gun muted.

Speaker 1:
[38:59] You have Top Gun muted?

Speaker 4:
[39:00] No, I'm just saying I didn't see that, so.

Speaker 1:
[39:02] Yeah. New Top Gun, Top Gun 3.

Speaker 4:
[39:05] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[39:06] You know what I got to do? I have to reach out to Liam's dad. I got to reach out to Mr. Blutman and talk to him because I've cooked up storylines for Top Gun 3 that I would like to get into the producer's hands, because I think I've got such a good plot for Top Gun 3 when it comes out, and it would be a shame if it didn't get used. I feel like we have to use it now. It's now or never.

Speaker 6:
[39:29] Shouldn't you say it here so that if they do use it?

Speaker 1:
[39:33] Yeah. Good call.

Speaker 5:
[39:34] You want to say it too early in case they steal it.

Speaker 1:
[39:36] But then I can be like, you're stealing my idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5:
[39:39] Got you.

Speaker 1:
[39:40] On record.

Speaker 6:
[39:40] We're reverse Breaking Bad. We're getting back what Breaking Bad took from you.

Speaker 1:
[39:44] Yeah. And I think I've even said this on the air. I think I said it maybe to Miles Teller when we had him on the show. But yeah, it's no brainer for Top Gun 3. It's the it's the Casey Jones or wait, not Casey Jones. That's the guy that was the the engineer. It's the John Henry. It's a modern day John Henry story. John Henry was the steel driving man. He was either a sharecropper or a slave. And he was working on the railroads. And he was the strongest man that you've ever seen. He would lay track faster than anybody else. This guy was a machine of a man. And then the steam engine got invented. And it threatened to put all the guys out there like John Henry out of work. And so they arranged a competition between John Henry and the the the drill that would go through a mountain. And they want to see who would who would work faster, who would work harder. John Henry beat the machine going through the mountain. And then he died at the very, very end after he proved that humans were still superior to the machine. Classic story. Now think about that applied to pilots and AI drones. Oh, yeah, the government shuts down all the manned pilot programs in the Air Force, the Navy, et cetera. And they're like, we're only going with the AI drones. And then Tom Cruise has to step in and prove that humans can still beat the machine. Because there's something that the machine can't do that only Maverick can. And they don't program Mavericks into the code.

Speaker 4:
[41:26] That's strong.

Speaker 6:
[41:27] I like that.

Speaker 1:
[41:27] They program rules into the code. And the most important part about being a Top Gun pilot is knowing when to break the rules.

Speaker 4:
[41:36] I love this.

Speaker 1:
[41:38] That is Top Gun 3. Let me write at least a part of it.

Speaker 4:
[41:42] Do you think they'll name an enemy in this one or it's just the enemy?

Speaker 1:
[41:46] I kind of like how it's a faceless enemy. Although real wing heads out there spotted that it was probably Iran last time. Because remember when they hijacked that plane to fly out?

Speaker 4:
[41:56] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[41:57] When they like snuck into the airbase? That was an F-14 Tomcat. And the only other country on earth that has F-14s besides us, and we've decommissioned all of our F-14s, the only other country that has them is Iran, because we sold them to Iran back in like the 80s.

Speaker 4:
[42:12] And then we did the Top Gun mission to Iran in real life?

Speaker 1:
[42:15] Yes. Listen, art and life have become just like one and the same.

Speaker 4:
[42:23] What's that conditioning? Is that what they call it?

Speaker 1:
[42:26] Yes, we've been conditioned.

Speaker 4:
[42:29] By the way, is Twitter down for you guys?

Speaker 1:
[42:31] I don't know.

Speaker 4:
[42:32] Yes. Nice.

Speaker 1:
[42:34] But yeah, it's great that they're doing another Top Gun. I would just love to be a small part of it, use part of my story. I'll just be in the background. If you need a background actor like in the bar, I'm sure you're going to have a bar scene where Maverick and whatever the hotshot pilot, if it's going to be Miles Teller, like they go, they chat up some women. I'll just be in the back drinking a beer. Or if you want to put me in a plane, that'd be fine too.

Speaker 6:
[43:06] If they were to take you up on all of this and put you in the movie, and let's say they gave you a big enough part that you are accredited, you have a name, what would your call name be?

Speaker 1:
[43:16] My call sign?

Speaker 6:
[43:17] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:18] Fuck, that's a good question. I don't know.

Speaker 6:
[43:22] I feel like we definitely did this when Top Gun 2 came out.

Speaker 1:
[43:26] Yeah, but I can't give myself my call sign. That's something that your colleagues have to give you.

Speaker 6:
[43:32] T?

Speaker 4:
[43:35] What if it was, I think we did, someone asked us on like a voicemail and we did it. I don't remember what I said. What about Mike for you? But MIC.

Speaker 1:
[43:45] That's good.

Speaker 4:
[43:46] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:46] Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 4:
[43:48] How much would you pay to be an extra in that movie? You're on screen for one second, but you're in a flight suit and you get to keep the flight suit.

Speaker 1:
[43:58] A full second? Not like a fleeting pass? Yeah, a full second.

Speaker 4:
[44:02] There is a one, one thousand. Yes, there is a one second scene where you are visible in the background and you're wearing a flight suit that you get to keep. How much would you pay for that?

Speaker 1:
[44:11] How much money would I pay for that?

Speaker 4:
[44:12] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:15] Probably more than anything outside of a house. More than anything that I've purchased in my life.

Speaker 4:
[44:23] $50,000? $100,000?

Speaker 1:
[44:26] That's where we're getting to.

Speaker 4:
[44:28] So like $75,000 for sure.

Speaker 1:
[44:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah. In that area.

Speaker 4:
[44:31] And $100,000 you'd think about it.

Speaker 1:
[44:33] Right, but I have to be not the director's cut, not...

Speaker 4:
[44:36] No, you're in the movie.

Speaker 1:
[44:37] Not like the extra.

Speaker 4:
[44:38] For one second you are in the movie.

Speaker 1:
[44:40] I'm on the big screen. You can clearly see that it's me. I'm wearing a flight suit and I get to keep the flight suit.

Speaker 4:
[44:47] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:47] Yes. Somewhere in the $50,000 to $100,000 range. I would 100% do that.

Speaker 4:
[44:54] So if they said $125,000, you would say no.

Speaker 1:
[44:56] Yeah. At that point, a man has got to have a code.

Speaker 4:
[44:59] If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.

Speaker 1:
[45:01] At this point, they're just taking advantage of my very generous offer. Usually, you have to pay the actor to be in the movie.

Speaker 4:
[45:07] Typically.

Speaker 1:
[45:07] Yeah. Actually, you know what? I might run into some problems with the SAG if I did that.

Speaker 4:
[45:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:13] The Screen Actors Guild might break my news.

Speaker 4:
[45:14] Do you have to have a card to be in a movie for one second?

Speaker 1:
[45:17] I imagine that you probably would have to get your card, but I would I would get my card for that.

Speaker 4:
[45:23] You don't have one already?

Speaker 1:
[45:24] No, I would. Yeah, I would. Whatever it takes, I would be very interested in that. So let me know if you are the producer of Top Gun and your Macrodosing. Just reach out and you can take some of my storyline. I think it's a good storyline. I think people would like it. Or if you need like, why are you spending all this money on script supervisors and subject matter experts from the actual military when you can just use my brain? And I've played over 200 hours of Flight Simulator. So if you have a question about any of the plans, you can just ask me instead. Save yourself some money.

Speaker 4:
[45:55] Do you think Mark Blutman knows Jerry Bruckheimer?

Speaker 1:
[45:57] Yeah, Jerry Bruckheimer.

Speaker 4:
[45:59] 82 years old.

Speaker 1:
[46:00] He's an absolute legend. Armageddon, Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop, National Treasure, Bad Boys, Pirates of the Caribbean, Goat.

Speaker 4:
[46:12] F1.

Speaker 1:
[46:13] F1.

Speaker 4:
[46:14] A movie whose plot I still am searching for, but was entertained by.

Speaker 1:
[46:23] He's a big John McCain fan. Looks like it, yeah. I mean, that's apropos of nothing. I'm just reading about the man. Listen, yeah. Oh, oh my God. Yes. He produced. Kangaroo Jack.

Speaker 4:
[46:46] Oh, wow. Would you like to make a call right now?

Speaker 1:
[46:52] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[46:52] Yeah, I would like for you to.

Speaker 1:
[46:54] Yeah, I got it. I got to call. I'm not going to say who I'm going to call. But this I do know a friend who had a small role. He had a small role in Kangaroo Jack.

Speaker 4:
[47:06] The list of these movies is hysterical. Remember the Titans, Beverly Hills Cop, Pirates of the Caribbean, Top Gun, National Treasure, Kangaroo Jack.

Speaker 1:
[47:16] With Pirates of the Caribbean, that one from having this debate the other day, do you say in general Caribbean or Caribbean?

Speaker 4:
[47:22] I say Caribbean with the exception of those films.

Speaker 1:
[47:25] Same. What's up with that?

Speaker 4:
[47:28] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[47:29] Okay, let's go.

Speaker 4:
[47:32] You said you weren't going to.

Speaker 1:
[47:33] Sorry, bleep out that name.

Speaker 4:
[47:48] Tell them Big T would love to be in the film if they're just taking requests.

Speaker 1:
[47:52] Jerry's not picking up. Telephone number. I can't believe Jerry's not picking up my call.

Speaker 4:
[47:56] Wow, is that a first?

Speaker 1:
[47:57] It's one of the first, yeah. Jerry is usually 100% answering. Let me text.

Speaker 4:
[48:01] Tell him, please call back before the end of the show. I'd love to resolve this today. Do you have Mark Blutman's number?

Speaker 1:
[48:10] I don't have his phone number, no.

Speaker 4:
[48:12] Should we get Liam in here?

Speaker 1:
[48:13] They definitely know each other. Yeah, let's get Liam in here.

Speaker 4:
[48:17] Let's try to figure this out.

Speaker 1:
[48:18] Full court press.

Speaker 4:
[48:19] Yeah. Strike while the iron's hot. He is here. I saw him.

Speaker 1:
[48:27] Yeah. Okay. Because if they're making this movie right now, we have to have these conversations.

Speaker 4:
[48:32] If they're already in filming?

Speaker 1:
[48:34] I don't know if it's in filming or if they're still writing. I just I read about it like last week. And it sounded like they were still in the writing process. But who knows? These things move fast. You know, you know how Hollywood is, Big T. Okay. So we'll get back to that in a second. Stand by. Also in the news today, Big T sent this one over. There was an accounting error revision that brought Ilhan Omar, her net worth, from $30 million to $95,000.

Speaker 4:
[49:07] Yeah. Did you see that?

Speaker 1:
[49:08] That was in the Wall Street Journal. Yeah. I just saw that. I just read about it.

Speaker 4:
[49:12] So she, I guess in her tax filings last year, approximated the value of her husband's venture capital firm and winery at $25 and $5 million. The previous year, they were, hold please. She valued them at like $1,000. In her latest financial disclosure filed in May 2025 and covering 2024, Omar valued husband Tim Minnitz Venture Capital Management firm Roselake Capital at $5 to $25 million and his winery, Essaint Cru, it's E-S-T-C-R-U, I don't know, between $1 million and $5 million, far greater than the $1 to $1,000 and $15 to $50,000. She valued those businesses at the previous year. And then, this year, she valued her assets at $95,000.

Speaker 1:
[50:10] Okay. So it sounds like, correct me if I'm wrong, she included her husband's business as part of her assets and then revised that to say that that belonged to her husband, not to her.

Speaker 4:
[50:27] I don't know if she didn't count them this time or if the value was just drastically reduced. I don't know exactly what happened.

Speaker 1:
[50:34] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[50:34] But they claim it was an accounting error.

Speaker 1:
[50:38] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[50:38] Not necessarily that just the valuations went down. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[50:42] I don't know. I don't think the value, from my understanding, I don't think the valuations of the business went down. I don't think that his like, venture capital fund went to $0 or whatever.

Speaker 4:
[50:51] Well, she said it was $1,000 the year before. So who knows what their value in this stuff at?

Speaker 1:
[50:56] Yeah, I don't know. But I do know that she married a rich guy.

Speaker 4:
[51:01] Well, now she says she's not. But she says she's not rich.

Speaker 1:
[51:04] She's not rich, but her husband's rich. I think that's what the claim is here.

Speaker 4:
[51:11] The controversy stems from a massive gap between her original filings, which estimated her assets between $6 million and $30 million and a newly amended report that places those assets at a much lower range of $18,000 to $95,000. So it does say those assets.

Speaker 1:
[51:27] Right, her assets. I don't know if that's saying...

Speaker 4:
[51:30] That sentence says the same assets. I don't...

Speaker 1:
[51:34] Okay, we got to figure this out.

Speaker 4:
[51:35] But either way...

Speaker 1:
[51:39] Either way she should be way better at taxes, given that she's in Congress. I would assume that she has access to some pretty good financial tax people.

Speaker 4:
[51:49] Yeah, I would love to figure out what that accounting her was. Do we have Liam Blutman?

Speaker 1:
[51:55] I just gave him the Zoom log in.

Speaker 4:
[51:58] Is he not here?

Speaker 1:
[51:59] No, he just left. He said, I don't know where he went. So we got to figure out, get to the bottom of the Ilhan Omar thing. I mean, if your husband is a rich person that has a venture capital firm and you're married, I feel like most people claim those as being like joint assets, right?

Speaker 4:
[52:15] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[52:16] Like, so the general theory or the principle behind it is, are you avoiding conflicts of interest in your job as a congressperson? And if you're legislating on things that your husband could stand to profit from, it also stands to reason that you would profit from those things.

Speaker 4:
[52:33] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[52:34] Yeah. Okay. What else we got in the news today?

Speaker 4:
[52:39] That was most of it. Have you seen the Gindex?

Speaker 1:
[52:42] No, it's that.

Speaker 4:
[52:43] So there was a British engineer who set up an AI call center basically to call every bar in England and ask what they charge for a pint of Guinness. And then he compiled all of that into a website that lists the national average and the cost at every bar. So now the bars have found out about this and the free market at work, they are all trying to lower their prices to be the lowest Guinness in the area. Now that they know you can look at the Gindex.

Speaker 1:
[53:12] Because it's easily comparable.

Speaker 4:
[53:14] Right. So...

Speaker 1:
[53:16] Do they... What data did they get out of that? Are there certain towns that have like the cheapest Guinness?

Speaker 4:
[53:22] I'm not sure, but you can go to the... There he is.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 7:
[54:40] Hey. Hey, how's it going, friends? Hello.

Speaker 1:
[54:44] It's going well. Good to see you.

Speaker 7:
[54:46] Nice to see you.

Speaker 1:
[54:47] Liam, I had a question for you because in the news this week, we've seen that Top Gun 3 is in production right now. And I didn't know if your dad had any sort of connection with Jerry Ruckheimer, the famous producer that's working on this, or anybody that might be working on the project. But I've got some great ideas for a script for Top Gun 3.

Speaker 7:
[55:09] Okay. I don't know who that is. I haven't seen either movie, but I look forward to taking notes on your ideas and getting it over to Markie. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[55:20] So I can send you my notes.

Speaker 7:
[55:22] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[55:23] And then you can send those to your dad and see if he can get those in the right hands.

Speaker 4:
[55:27] We also were just wondering if Markie does know Jerry Bruckheimer or anyone else associated. We would just love to be considered maybe for an infinitesimal role in the film. Non-speaking, of course. Just maybe we're hanging out in the background at some point.

Speaker 7:
[55:46] How do you spell this guy's last name?

Speaker 1:
[55:48] B-R-U-C-K-H-E-I-M-E-R.

Speaker 7:
[55:54] Okay, I'll text Mark and ask if he knows him. Now we wait.

Speaker 4:
[55:59] Could we potentially get Mark on the show?

Speaker 1:
[56:02] We could talk about it. I don't know if what I'm doing right now is considered way, way, way outside the bounds to the point where they're not allowed to accept outside solicitations on things. Some places are like that. I know there's a lot of record companies that if you send them your demo tape in the mail, they will never listen to it. Because if they listen to some things, then they open themselves up to being sued if one of their bands has a song that sounds like a song that you sent in.

Speaker 4:
[56:30] You probably should have done that with Breaking Bad.

Speaker 1:
[56:32] I probably should have done that, yes, 100%. But yeah, so it would just be my dream, Liam, to have some small part in Top Gun 3, whether it's one aspect of the storyline or if it's just me in the background for a second wearing a flight suit, whatever the case may be. I want to tell them that I'm here to help.

Speaker 7:
[56:54] Okay. I have decent news for you.

Speaker 1:
[56:57] Okay.

Speaker 7:
[56:59] Marquis' response is, I don't personally, but a good friend of mine does. Why?

Speaker 1:
[57:06] Okay.

Speaker 7:
[57:08] That's a step in the right direction.

Speaker 1:
[57:09] It is a step in the right direction. Is his friend Jerry O'Connell? Because I did notice that-

Speaker 7:
[57:14] Is not.

Speaker 1:
[57:15] Okay. I did notice that Jerry, he was in Kangaroo Jack, was at Jerry Bruckheimer Joint.

Speaker 7:
[57:20] Interesting. Okay. Kangaroo Jack, one of the first films I watched.

Speaker 1:
[57:25] It's a good one.

Speaker 6:
[57:26] May I ask how Markie and Jerry know each other so well?

Speaker 7:
[57:29] So, yes, this is a good question. I honestly had thought that through me and Lukey working here, that that had helped ignite the friendship. Not the case. Markie and Jerry have known each other for years and years. I believe Markie casted Jerry in something, if I'm not mistaken, long ago, and they've been friends since. And him, those two and Howie love getting coffee every morning.

Speaker 6:
[57:58] And that's correct.

Speaker 7:
[58:00] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[58:01] Every morning.

Speaker 4:
[58:02] What a crew.

Speaker 5:
[58:04] Seriously. That's amazing.

Speaker 1:
[58:06] Liam, if you could tell them, like, I don't know how much of this you want to share, but the general premise is the story, the age-old story of John Henry going up against the machine. But this time, it's Maverick going up against AI drone technology. Okay, topical. And they're trying to get the real pilots out of the biz. And Maverick has to go in and prove that there's still room in this world for a human pilot. And you can listen to the whole tagline I put out a whole spiel about earlier. But basically, it's like the computers don't know, they're great at a lot of stuff, they don't know when you have to break the rules. That's only something that a Maverick can do. Top Gun 3 in theaters this summer.

Speaker 4:
[58:56] You want a tagline?

Speaker 1:
[58:57] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[58:58] One mission, the drone couldn't have flown.

Speaker 1:
[59:01] That's good. It rhymes. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 6:
[59:03] But I feel like that kind of gives it away right off the bat.

Speaker 4:
[59:06] No, that tells you what we need.

Speaker 1:
[59:09] Man vs. Machine. Maverick vs. Machine.

Speaker 6:
[59:13] I like Maverick vs. Machine.

Speaker 1:
[59:16] Yeah, that's it. We don't have to throw that out there. We'll think more about the tagline. But the general idea, the nugget, the seed of the story, I think is very solid. So again, I'm just here to help whatever they need.

Speaker 7:
[59:32] You sound like you're willing to give it your all, and that should be appreciated.

Speaker 1:
[59:36] Well, let me know what your dad says. Also, tell him I say hi.

Speaker 7:
[59:41] He said, okay, I'll tell him you say hi. He said O'Connell is my top Jerry.

Speaker 1:
[59:46] That's fair. Mine too. Unless Jerry Bruckheimer brings me under his wing.

Speaker 4:
[59:51] Where's Jersey?

Speaker 1:
[59:53] Jersey Jerry? He's my number one Gerrard.

Speaker 7:
[59:59] He's my number one Guilfone, my number two Gerrard.

Speaker 1:
[60:02] Who's your number one Gerrard?

Speaker 7:
[60:04] Ryan Gerrard. Come on, go.

Speaker 1:
[60:08] Come on, Golf. All right, Blut, have a good one. I'll let you get back to it.

Speaker 7:
[60:12] Okay, I'm going to go sleep. You guys have fun.

Speaker 1:
[60:14] Okay, bye.

Speaker 7:
[60:15] Bye.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 4:
[61:57] I mean, you and I do web.

Speaker 1:
[61:59] That's true. That's it's about to be late season too, where we got NBA Playoffs, NHL Playoffs. And so I'm going to be awake. I'm going to be going to bed at like midnight, waking up at 530 for WUB. That's fun.

Speaker 4:
[62:16] I got to bed at midnight anyway.

Speaker 1:
[62:17] I always wonder what people like.

Speaker 4:
[62:19] What time are you going to bed?

Speaker 1:
[62:20] Well, if it's if it's like NHL or NBA Playoffs, sometimes pretty late.

Speaker 4:
[62:24] No, but on a normal day, no sports. What time are you going to bed?

Speaker 1:
[62:28] 1130. OK, 11.

Speaker 4:
[62:31] So that's that's almost midnight.

Speaker 1:
[62:33] Yeah, but sometimes you get the overtime. You get like the four over times. You got to stay up for it.

Speaker 4:
[62:38] It's always in Vancouver.

Speaker 1:
[62:39] Yes. So it's the late game anyway.

Speaker 4:
[62:41] Not this year because they suck, but somewhere out there.

Speaker 1:
[62:44] Yeah, but it's the late games and then, yeah, you know how it goes. It's fun. I'm not going to complain about it, but I always I always like to imagine like the super early morning people, like the Mike and Mikes of the world. If you get on the radio at like 530 a.m. or 5 a.m., there's zero chance that you stay up to watch all the games.

Speaker 4:
[63:03] No.

Speaker 1:
[63:04] Especially as you get older, if you got like kids and stuff, these guys, they don't stay up to watch the games. All right, we got some other stuff going on in the news. Big T, do you want to talk any sports?

Speaker 4:
[63:15] What about them?

Speaker 1:
[63:16] You have any NBA playoff takes?

Speaker 4:
[63:19] I know that CJ McCollum kicked Jalen Brunson in the dick.

Speaker 1:
[63:25] Yep.

Speaker 4:
[63:26] That is the only series, I could name you both teams that are playing.

Speaker 1:
[63:32] Okay. You could not name...

Speaker 4:
[63:36] The Spurs are playing the Trailblazers. Because I saw some discourse on the court.

Speaker 1:
[63:45] Yeah. What did you think about the court?

Speaker 4:
[63:48] Not a fan, doing a lot out there. Yeah, I believe those are the only two series I know both teams competing.

Speaker 1:
[63:57] I think it's a cool court. There's a lot going on. I think it's extremely un-intimidating. I think it's almost like welcoming.

Speaker 4:
[64:04] Yeah. We're here for a fiesta.

Speaker 1:
[64:06] Yeah. I said on PMT, it feels like a jumpy air castle.

Speaker 4:
[64:10] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[64:11] Which is great. They're a lot of fun. And it looks like a fun environment to be in. But I wouldn't be afraid. I would be afraid of Wimby, but I wouldn't be afraid of the court. I think the court has to step up its game.

Speaker 4:
[64:22] Did they win?

Speaker 1:
[64:22] They did. Yeah. And it was really close. Wimby was awesome. This just might be the Wimby. The NBA might just become the Wimby show for the next 10 years.

Speaker 4:
[64:30] Who's on the Trailblazers these days?

Speaker 1:
[64:32] You got Stefan Kassel.

Speaker 4:
[64:34] He is on the Spurs.

Speaker 1:
[64:35] Oh, sorry. Sorry. Yeah. In that game. Who's on the Trailblazers? I knew that. On the Blazers, you've got Donovan Klingon.

Speaker 4:
[64:43] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[64:44] From Yukon. Kling Kong. Then you've got the guy, the Israeli guy that was on the Wizards, what's his name? Denny?

Speaker 4:
[64:52] Avdia?

Speaker 1:
[64:53] Avdia, yeah. That guy?

Speaker 4:
[64:56] Oh, they have, they don't have Sengoon anymore.

Speaker 1:
[65:00] No, where did Sengoon go?

Speaker 4:
[65:01] He's on the Rockets, right?

Speaker 1:
[65:03] Yeah. Are you a Gooner?

Speaker 4:
[65:04] No.

Speaker 1:
[65:05] I'm a Gooner.

Speaker 4:
[65:06] I just know that he gets a lot of triple doubles.

Speaker 1:
[65:08] Yeah. I'm a Gooner. I believe in the man. Oh, I want to ask you about this, Big T, because I know you don't really care about the NBA, but you should start to watch Wimby.

Speaker 4:
[65:19] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[65:20] Because the entire sport is just going to be Wimby, ultimately Wimby.

Speaker 4:
[65:26] Well, the sport of basketball, as far as I'm concerned, it's just in college and then they don't. I wish there was a way to watch those guys play after that, but that's it.

Speaker 1:
[65:38] Big T.

Speaker 4:
[65:38] It's actually good. Now, they get extra years in college and stuff. They play forever, so it's better because once they do that, I don't know where they go.

Speaker 1:
[65:46] Big T looks at the NBA like most people look at the senior tour.

Speaker 4:
[65:50] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[65:51] Right now, if they're in college, if they're in the NCAA tournament, that's the show.

Speaker 4:
[65:57] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[65:57] And then they can go off if they want to keep playing and collect a paycheck, there's an avenue for them to do that in the NBA later. But ultimately, the peak of the profession is college basketball.

Speaker 4:
[66:07] Yeah, like Nate Ament, he's talking about leaving college after his freshman year. I don't know why he would do that. He needs to continue getting his education. He's really good at playing college basketball, too. He's just going to give up basketball.

Speaker 1:
[66:17] Right.

Speaker 4:
[66:17] I don't know why he would do that. But yeah, I wish there was a way to keep watching those guys.

Speaker 1:
[66:24] Yeah, so I know you don't really care that much about it. It will end up being like there's a big regular season and a big production made every year in the playoffs. And then ultimately, it's just going to be Wimben Yama. And whatever team he's on, probably the Spurs for his entire career.

Speaker 4:
[66:41] Do you remember Cooper Flag last year at Duke? Yeah. What's he doing? I mean, he was awesome at playing basketball. And now is he selling insurance somewhere? What's he doing?

Speaker 1:
[66:51] He's probably going to win rookie of the year.

Speaker 4:
[66:53] In what?

Speaker 1:
[66:54] In the NBA.

Speaker 4:
[66:55] Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:
[66:56] The national basketball.

Speaker 4:
[66:56] So he is still playing?

Speaker 1:
[66:57] He plays basketball.

Speaker 4:
[66:58] Oh, that's good to hear.

Speaker 1:
[66:59] For a job.

Speaker 4:
[66:59] Okay. Good.

Speaker 1:
[67:00] Yeah. He found a place to land where he doesn't have to get a real job yet.

Speaker 4:
[67:04] Okay. Good for him because it was fun to watch.

Speaker 1:
[67:07] Yeah, it was. But in a sport that you do care about a little bit, is Tottenham going to get relegated?

Speaker 4:
[67:16] So they got a big draw this weekend.

Speaker 1:
[67:18] So I think if you had gone into this weekend and you had said, do you have to get a win? I think most people would have said you would like a win, but you just can't have a loss.

Speaker 4:
[67:31] No, that was a big draw for them.

Speaker 1:
[67:34] You need to get a result. You need a point out of it. Now, the way that they end up getting that draw might have actually made it worse though. Because they were winning and it was five minutes into added time, five minutes out of eight into added time, and then they gave up the equalizing goal. So it was a win that then became a draw at the end. That probably bummed them out a lot. But now if you look at the odds, Big T, odds for Tottenham to be relegated at the end of the season, I believe that's minus 130.

Speaker 4:
[68:06] Sounds about right.

Speaker 1:
[68:07] For West Ham to get relegated, now it's plus 150. So those kind of flip-flopped over the last week. So right now, Tottenham is a favorite to be relegated, which would be fucking hilarious if it happened.

Speaker 4:
[68:20] Yeah, West Ham is a point ahead of them, but they have played one fewer game. So if they win that game, they'll be four points ahead. Tottenham plays Wolverhampton, who's in last place. I mean, if they lose that, it's over.

Speaker 1:
[68:32] Yes.

Speaker 4:
[68:33] But they should win that game. Then they play Aston Villa, who's very good. Aston Villa should take care of them. They play Leeds.

Speaker 1:
[68:40] Oh, wait, Jerry's calling. Hey, Jerry. What's up, pal? Hey, PFT Commenter, you're on Macrodosing podcast right now, live to tape.

Speaker 2:
[68:50] Hey, what's up?

Speaker 4:
[68:52] Hey, Jerry.

Speaker 1:
[68:53] That's Big T.

Speaker 2:
[68:54] Hi, everybody. Big fan of the show.

Speaker 1:
[68:57] Thank you, Jerry. Appreciate that. Really looking forward to seeing you in Vegas.

Speaker 2:
[69:01] Oh, yes, so am I.

Speaker 1:
[69:03] When I called, did you think that there was an outside chance that I was inviting you to go to the spring break experience in Vegas?

Speaker 2:
[69:12] That's the show that you guys are doing, that Anika and Nicky were fighting over?

Speaker 1:
[69:17] Yes. Yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 2:
[69:19] Yeah, sure. I would love to go. I have to admit, I have not watched anything this weekend. I know there was some milk down by Anika, but I love Anika and I think Nicky and Anika were breaking off into their own little unit. That's something I did recognize. We did Camp Barstool. I think they are very close. I was watching them quite intently when we were at Camp Barstool. It doesn't seem to be sexual. It seems to be just two friends. I couldn't believe it. I would watch them at Camp Barstool. They would sit with each other for hours and just talk. I was like, what are they talking about? My wife is my best friend, everybody knows that, Rebecca Romaine. Look it up. I'm good for 10 minutes with her tops. And then just phones out and just like, that's it, you know? Yeah. And we're best friends. But like, Anika and Nikki would talk for hours and hours and hours. And they would just like look out at that lake at Camp Barstool, Lake Barstool and just talk. So they obviously have a connection that, I mean, there's no denying that they have a connection. But you'll love to go. You know what? I'll watch all the clips.

Speaker 1:
[70:55] Jerry, let me just interrupt. I'm not actually inviting you to go out. I'm just saying, like when I called, I wondered if that's the reason that you thought I was going. We're still going to Vegas for Max's bachelor party. But I don't think that they've got, they've got the space for you to go out there this week.

Speaker 2:
[71:13] Well, then why the fuck did you just say that?

Speaker 1:
[71:14] I said, I said, I want to know if you thought that's why I was calling. It was a bad way that I phrased it. It's very misleading. I apologize.

Speaker 2:
[71:22] No, when you say call, I just assume it's something that can't be put in writing, you know?

Speaker 1:
[71:27] Right.

Speaker 2:
[71:28] So that's why I call up.

Speaker 1:
[71:29] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[71:30] I didn't realize we were on air until you said we're, are we on air?

Speaker 1:
[71:34] Yeah, we're on the air right now. This is all for air. But I do have a real reason why I called you.

Speaker 2:
[71:43] Let me, all right. Now that we're playing the guessing game, let me guess.

Speaker 1:
[71:46] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[71:47] I know you're into flight simulation. I know I send you flight simulator videos. This is going to be something about Naval pilots.

Speaker 4:
[71:57] Jerry, you're hot.

Speaker 2:
[71:58] Or moose or something?

Speaker 4:
[71:59] You're hot.

Speaker 1:
[71:59] You're very, you're lava hot right now, Jerry.

Speaker 2:
[72:04] It's going to be Naval, street of Hormuz. Do I want to go in on a flight simulator business?

Speaker 4:
[72:10] Colder.

Speaker 1:
[72:10] You get a little colder.

Speaker 2:
[72:12] Okay. Flight simulator. Do I want to be your wingman in some sort of dogfight, online dogfight?

Speaker 1:
[72:19] Not really online dogfight, but I mean, we could talk about something like that.

Speaker 4:
[72:23] But he does need you to be his wingman in a sense for this ask.

Speaker 1:
[72:27] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[72:28] Oh, wingman for this ask. Does it have to do with me? I mean, I know we're on air. I want to apologize for portraying Geno Smith on your podcast. That was insensitive. He's great.

Speaker 1:
[72:42] It was fantastic, Jerry.

Speaker 2:
[72:47] Actually, I should whisper this. I know I'm on air. I am amazed at the lack of fallout from that. Either people did think it was actually funny, and they were like, let's give it a pass. It's so funny, the fine line between what's offensive and not. It's like if it's really funny, it sort of gets a, like you get a pass.

Speaker 1:
[73:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[73:13] You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:
[73:14] Were you a little bit offended that there weren't people out there being like, I can't believe Jerry O'Connell did this?

Speaker 2:
[73:21] Well, at first I was like, wow, I thought I was more famous than this. But then something happened to me, Big Cat. It sort of like bolded me where next, I might probably make an accent or something. I may really go for it.

Speaker 1:
[73:40] Yeah. I mean, I thought it was very funny. It's the hardest that I've ever laughed.

Speaker 2:
[73:44] But I mean, I might try, I might go Indian.

Speaker 8:
[73:49] I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[73:50] I might go Middle Eastern or something. I'm going to really, I'm going to be someone who tries to get canceled.

Speaker 1:
[73:59] Jerry, can you do a female voice?

Speaker 8:
[74:04] Like a man-tie-tae-ow. I got a man-tie-tae-ow from dying man-tie-tae-ow out here.

Speaker 1:
[74:13] That's pretty good.

Speaker 8:
[74:17] When I see you, I'm going to suck your dick. And I'm going to let you put your finger in my butt just like Urban Meyer. That's the only coach-cheating-scandal situation we're allowed to talk about. There seems to be an embargo.

Speaker 1:
[74:38] That was really good, Jerry. I think you could do that. We could try to... I'm going to put that in my file of like the amazing things that Jerry O'Connell can do in terms of acting.

Speaker 2:
[74:47] There should be a good one. We call up, but I'm sorry I'm not talking about your podcast. I'm talking about part of my take, but which I was just listening to when you called up. But it would be fun to say like I'm an exotic dancer who's pregnant with Max's child.

Speaker 1:
[75:05] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[75:05] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[75:07] You put a baby in me, Max. I recognize you from your hair. It was him. I saw his belly. I know he told me he was dieting and he had trouble getting it up because he's on a GOP one. So the blood flow isn't the same. But we got it up and you came inside and you gave me a job. Are we on the air? Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[75:29] We're on the air.

Speaker 4:
[75:29] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[75:30] It's okay. This is good stuff, Jerry. This is good stuff.

Speaker 2:
[75:34] But this is my time on your show.

Speaker 1:
[75:39] Yeah. So I had a question for you, Jerry.

Speaker 2:
[75:43] Anyway, I was going to guess.

Speaker 1:
[75:45] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[75:45] So thinking about, oh, is it about the show or Moose?

Speaker 1:
[75:48] It's about naval aviation. It is 100 percent about naval aviation.

Speaker 2:
[75:53] I knew it. Oh, by the way, you listen on my feed, if you put a naval ship blasting a hole in an air room with a precision, I'm watching that ship. And I do want to apologize to anyone who's offended. You show me a video of a drug boat getting blown up. I'm watching the whole thing, especially at night. I love the night vision ones.

Speaker 1:
[76:18] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[76:18] Really good stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[76:19] No, I'll send you some content for sure. But I had a question for you.

Speaker 2:
[76:24] Do you have stuff that's not for air?

Speaker 1:
[76:27] No, this is for air. It's a question for air.

Speaker 2:
[76:30] No, but I mean, but do you have content that's even a little like dark web stuff?

Speaker 1:
[76:35] Yeah. I can send you some stuff that I have not put out. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[76:37] Oh, send it. Don't even worry. Send it right to my text. I'll watch it all. I love that stuff.

Speaker 1:
[76:42] Okay. I will absolutely do that. But Jerry-

Speaker 2:
[76:45] I know that's sick of me, but man, just waiting for it to blow up and then it does and you're like, there it goes.

Speaker 1:
[76:53] Yeah. And you're always going to watch until the end of the video too.

Speaker 2:
[76:56] Got to do it. Got to do it. And you also look for, I'll be a little discreet. I realize this is for air, but you look for things flying away. You specifically really lean into your phone to look for things flying away from the blast. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:
[77:15] I hear you. I'll get you some great content, Jerry. Some fantastic content. So I do. I got a question for you. It's about Navelation, but it also relates to your experience as an actor, as a famous actor. In Kangaroo Jack, you worked with one Jerry Bruckheimer, correct? Yeah. Okay. So Jerry Bruckheimer, he's also producing Top Gun 3. Top Gun 3 coming out. I've got what I think is maybe the best storyline ever for Top Gun 3. Which I'm willing to give for free or just get... I just want to contribute any way that I possibly can. If that means being an extra in the background of one scene, if that means if they want me to send over any notes through you or through Mr. Blutman.

Speaker 2:
[78:06] I know a young lady who's pretty high up at his production company.

Speaker 1:
[78:11] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[78:12] A huge Steelers fan, by the way.

Speaker 1:
[78:15] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[78:18] Huge. Like crazy. It's funny. I guess I'll say to her, there's a podcast and one of the guys is really into flight simulating and he has a story idea for Top Gun 3. You know what they're going to say? Don't even send it to me because they don't want there to be any... Like they don't want to be able to... You to say...

Speaker 1:
[78:46] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[78:47] They don't want to be able... They don't want you to be able to say that you stole... That they stole your idea.

Speaker 1:
[78:52] Yeah. I hear that. Non-solicited material. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[78:58] You can say her name if you want to reach out to her on social media.

Speaker 1:
[79:03] You can just... How about you just text me her name? Or her social media handle. I can reach out to her.

Speaker 2:
[79:10] I'm also not sure that she wants to be known on Macrodosing.

Speaker 1:
[79:15] Right. We won't say her name. You just text me her name and I'll do it myself, not on the air. Or if there's a way where I could just be an extra on that movie, that would also make me very happy.

Speaker 2:
[79:29] Are you keeping the storyline close to the vest?

Speaker 1:
[79:32] I know. I said it out loud just like 10 minutes ago.

Speaker 2:
[79:36] Well, just give me like two sentences.

Speaker 1:
[79:38] Okay. All right. John Henry, the steel driving man, the age old tale of man against machine as he plowed through the mountain and he finally defeated the steam engine proving that humans are still superior to all the modern inventions. That's what I'm looking at in Top Gun 3, where it's man against drone, AI drone technology. The government cancels all the contracts and says no more fighter pilots, no more fighter planes. We've got drones. We've got swarms of drones. We don't need people anymore. And then Top Gun, Tom Cruise gets up there and he's like, sometimes you need a maverick. And he proves that a man is still necessary in today's modern warfare, where he takes out... Because Jerry, listen to this. The most important part about knowing the rules is knowing when to break them. And the AI drones, they don't know when to break the rules that are coded for them. But you know who does, is a maverick.

Speaker 2:
[80:35] Sure, they'll like know when to break it and stuff.

Speaker 1:
[80:38] No, they don't. They don't, Jerry. You can't program a machine to break its own rules. Can you just go with us, Jerry? Can you just do me a favor and go with it?

Speaker 2:
[80:48] I'll tell you, my biggest problem with AI is like, I'm at that age now where anytime I see any story or any video or anything, I just assume it's AI.

Speaker 1:
[80:57] Yeah. It's a problem.

Speaker 2:
[81:01] It's wild. It's, but maybe there'll be a return to people like Maverick and like what you guys do and all that stuff, because I can't go on the Internet anymore. It's just like, I don't even know. Is this real? Is it not? I mean, I guess it's kind of interesting. It would be crazy if it was. I have to ask in comments, like, is this, is this real? Yeah, I think that's a good idea. I think, gosh, if I were you, if I were you, PFT, I would do this through social media. I think Jerry Bruckheimer is active on social media.

Speaker 1:
[81:45] Okay. I'll try to reach out.

Speaker 2:
[81:47] I would, like, because I think if I try, I'm just trying to imagine, like, like I would love to be hired by the Bruckheimer company. And I'm just trying to think, like, if I went to one of their higher ups and said, there's a guy named PFT and he has an idea for Top Gun 3, who can he talk to over there? I'm just trying to imagine if that would lessen my chances of ever working at that company again.

Speaker 1:
[82:20] Yeah, I'd say probably.

Speaker 2:
[82:21] I'd say it might increase my chances because, well, I do want to help you out. Really, my ultimate goal here is to continue working in Hollywood.

Speaker 1:
[82:31] Yeah, is to make money for yourself. Now, what if as I reached out-

Speaker 2:
[82:35] For my children who are about to enter college and stuff, it's not for myself. I'm not really lavishly spending money on myself.

Speaker 1:
[82:42] Or you have to fix the driveway.

Speaker 2:
[82:44] Of course.

Speaker 1:
[82:45] But if I reach out, can I say, I'm good friends with Mr. Jerry OC.? He's a dear close personal friend of mine, and he said that I should reach out directly to you.

Speaker 2:
[82:59] And I will tell you, he's a fucking great dude.

Speaker 1:
[83:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[83:03] He is just- When you work for him, you get it. Literally, you get it. You get why he's as good as he is. It's interesting because it's- You realize there's a real craft to making hit movie after hit movie after hit movie. He's really good at what he does.

Speaker 1:
[83:24] He's the best. He's the best at what he does. Big T, do you have any questions for Jerry? You looked like you were about to say something.

Speaker 4:
[83:29] No. I just had a question for you, PFT, which is Jerry seems to be hung up on, he doesn't know how this will affect his relationship with this company, this person. I don't think you care all that much about your idea being used as much as you do. I think your ask is you just want to be an extra. I think that's your real ask here.

Speaker 1:
[83:49] I mean, Jerry, we kind of lost you there. Did you pay your bill?

Speaker 2:
[83:59] It's probably in your mind that they have bounced around a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[84:06] Yeah. I will, listen, I will do...

Speaker 2:
[84:10] I'm going to say, you're probably not the first one to say, man, first one is the drones. I don't want to shit on your radio and radio.

Speaker 1:
[84:18] Well, I did, I also said it like seven months ago when I found out that Top Gun 3 might be a thing.

Speaker 2:
[84:27] You're going to scare off Mr. Bruckheimer. I'm just letting you know.

Speaker 1:
[84:30] Okay. All right. I'll let that go. But yeah, maybe if I could just be in the background of a scene as an... How do I go about getting extra work on one specific movie?

Speaker 2:
[84:40] Well, I've seen some images of you on the internet. You've been growing your hair out. They're going to have to shave that shit. Pilots can't look like they're working as a repo tow truck driver.

Speaker 1:
[84:56] Is that what you think I look like, Jerry?

Speaker 2:
[84:59] I mean, yeah, a little bit. You look like you have a tow truck and you're a repo person. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[85:10] Okay. We can talk about that.

Speaker 2:
[85:13] And you look like you look like someone who like online, like jumps out of his truck with like a bat and goes, it's not coming off. It's not coming off. Get away from the car. I'm going to pull away. Get away from the car.

Speaker 8:
[85:25] I'm going to pull away.

Speaker 2:
[85:27] I'm going to drag you. Well, you should have thought about that when you bought it. Sir, look for the bank. I'm so sorry about your situation. I know nothing about it. This is just business. Get off of the car. I'm driving away. That's what you look like a little bit, to me. And I know that's generalizing and stereotyping.

Speaker 1:
[85:45] That's what you look like. They have wigs in Hollywood, so I could do something. That's not an issue. If that's the hangup, we can work through that.

Speaker 2:
[85:54] If I typed into AI., show me a repo person who bought a tow truck. Kind of like what your hair looks like is what would pop up.

Speaker 1:
[86:05] Right, right. But again, that's okay. We can work through that. There's ways around that.

Speaker 2:
[86:12] I'm pretty excited about this bachelor party.

Speaker 1:
[86:14] Yeah, it's going to be a great time. Jerry, we will talk to you soon. I appreciate you calling me back. We got to get-

Speaker 2:
[86:19] Just so quickly, are you guys going to fish? Are you guys going to fish in Vegas?

Speaker 1:
[86:22] Yeah. At the Sphere.

Speaker 2:
[86:25] Friday night or Saturday night?

Speaker 1:
[86:27] I'll get back to you with the details on exactly when we're going. Are you coming?

Speaker 2:
[86:31] I'm coming, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[86:33] Okay, yeah. I'll get back to you with the detail. I think it's going to be on Friday. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[86:37] Well, then, you know what? I can't. My daughter is performing in an improv group and she has asked me to perform with her.

Speaker 1:
[86:43] Oh, all right. That'll be fun.

Speaker 2:
[86:45] A little yes and with my daughter.

Speaker 1:
[86:48] I love that. Love that.

Speaker 8:
[86:49] You want to try it?

Speaker 2:
[86:51] Big T, give me a suggestion. Let's get a suggestion from the audience.

Speaker 4:
[86:55] For what?

Speaker 1:
[86:55] Improv. We're doing improv.

Speaker 2:
[86:56] Just give me a suggestion. Just give me a word. Give me a plate. Something you keep in your pocket.

Speaker 4:
[87:02] AirPods.

Speaker 2:
[87:03] AirPods. Hey, you haven't happened to see a left AirPod. It's got a little bit of earwax on the tip and the other side has been chewed. Has anyone seen that? See, that's where you would start like an improv situation.

Speaker 1:
[87:24] And then I'd say yes, I saw one of those earlier today. But Jerry, I got some bad news for you. There was a lady that came around and she was looking specifically to buy only a left AirPod because she only has one ear. So I sold it to the lady with one ear.

Speaker 2:
[87:42] You sold her a one ear AirPod.

Speaker 1:
[87:46] I did.

Speaker 2:
[87:47] Did you do that? Who does that? No one sells an AirPod like that. All right, well, forget it.

Speaker 1:
[87:55] You're not listening to me, Jerry. It's all going in one ear, out the other.

Speaker 2:
[87:59] I know. You haven't seen, this is so weird, but it's a workman, just a left workman's glove. It's like a glove, like a suede glove. I use it to shovel, but my right hand doesn't get blisters. Just my left hand. Have you seen a left handed workman's glove?

Speaker 1:
[88:16] I actually did see a left handed workman's glove, Jerry. Yeah, it's right.

Speaker 2:
[88:20] I'm going to need that back. I'm going to need that back.

Speaker 1:
[88:22] Unfortunately, I thought it was a hamburger helper glove. So I actually already, I sold that one on.

Speaker 2:
[88:30] And seen. Look at that.

Speaker 1:
[88:31] Okay. There we go.

Speaker 2:
[88:32] You're pretty good at this, man.

Speaker 1:
[88:33] You just never say no. That was good. You know what, Jerry? Listen, I don't think it's like too many laugh out loud moments, but I think this is good warm up, just getting the brain going. All right.

Speaker 2:
[88:46] I'll text that lady from Bruckheimer.

Speaker 1:
[88:48] Yeah, just send me her online info, and then I'll just let me handle the rest, Jerry.

Speaker 2:
[88:55] How do I word this? Hey, there's a guy I know as a podcast, he wants to pitch you an idea.

Speaker 1:
[89:01] You don't have to-

Speaker 4:
[89:03] I think we dropped the script entirely, and the ask is just to be an extra.

Speaker 1:
[89:07] Yeah, just to be an extra.

Speaker 2:
[89:09] Guys, no one's going to read a script in this town. It's not happening. You just have to pitch, and then it goes from there.

Speaker 1:
[89:16] Okay, yeah, just-

Speaker 2:
[89:18] No one's going to sit down and read your guys' 400-page manifesto for Top Gun 3. No one's doing that.

Speaker 1:
[89:25] Just say, yeah, just say that you know a guy. Gas me up a little bit, Jerry. Be like he's super attractive, very average-ly tall, normal tall human. He does the number one sports podcast in the world.

Speaker 2:
[89:38] I will say that.

Speaker 1:
[89:39] And he's a massive fan of the Top Gun franchise, and a fan of Naval Aviation.

Speaker 2:
[89:46] And we're going to be nice to this lady's Steelers fan. You better be nice to Aaron and DK.

Speaker 1:
[89:53] Yes. Tell her that I will be very nice to DK Metcalf and Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy and the entire town of Pittsburgh. That's a promise.

Speaker 2:
[90:04] All right. All right, guys.

Speaker 6:
[90:06] All right.

Speaker 1:
[90:06] Bye, Jerry. Thank you for calling.

Speaker 2:
[90:08] Yeah. No worries.

Speaker 6:
[90:09] Bye.

Speaker 1:
[90:11] OK. I think we made some progress there. Jerry's very concerned.

Speaker 4:
[90:15] You're leaving that whole thing in?

Speaker 1:
[90:17] Sure. Jerry's very concerned that I'm going I'm going to blow up his career. I will not. I will not.

Speaker 4:
[90:23] I mean, I understand from his perspective, you know, he's still trying to get jobs. And if you go in there telling these people that you've got a better idea for Top Gun 3 than they do.

Speaker 1:
[90:31] I mean, he makes some good points like that. Someone's probably had the same idea or a similar idea for the script.

Speaker 4:
[90:37] I think you have a good idea for a script, but I think we just leave that off the table and you just go in and say, my name is PFT Commenter. I am a massive aviation enthusiast. And it has been my dream to spend even a tenth of a second on screen in a Top Gun film.

Speaker 1:
[90:54] Right. You might recognize me from My Parents on Billions, HBO's Billions.

Speaker 4:
[91:00] When was that?

Speaker 1:
[91:01] I co-starred in a scene with CC. Sabathia.

Speaker 4:
[91:04] Wow.

Speaker 6:
[91:05] Yeah, you're famous.

Speaker 1:
[91:06] Yeah, I was on Billions, Big T.

Speaker 4:
[91:08] Congrats.

Speaker 1:
[91:09] Thank you.

Speaker 4:
[91:10] And you don't have a SAG card for that?

Speaker 1:
[91:12] I think I did at some point.

Speaker 6:
[91:14] You're also on Netflix three times a week.

Speaker 1:
[91:15] Netflix, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[91:16] Yeah, my podcast is on Netflix. My other podcast that I sometimes pretend to care about is on YouTube.

Speaker 1:
[91:23] I care very deeply about this podcast.

Speaker 4:
[91:25] Well, you said 11 a.m. What time we get started?

Speaker 1:
[91:29] I did, but sometimes you got an interview with Kyle Swarbrick.

Speaker 4:
[91:33] I thought I had my AM PM mixed up. I thought we might have been going 11 p.m. Yeah, like, what do you want me to do?

Speaker 1:
[91:38] Just stop Swarbrick and be like, hey, Kyle, this is a great story that you're telling about how emotional you got.

Speaker 4:
[91:42] No, you should have just told me 11.45.

Speaker 1:
[91:44] When you hit that home run against the Padres. But I got to go.

Speaker 4:
[91:47] Should ask him about losing five in a row.

Speaker 1:
[91:51] We did talk about his streaks, about like how it's a long season. Phil's aren't doing so great right now. A very long season. That's why. Do you get excited after individual games at all?

Speaker 4:
[92:02] Yeah. I mean, I watch every pitch. So like, you know, I want them to win every night.

Speaker 1:
[92:08] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[92:09] But you just have to be able to. You got to dissociate from college football brain. I think the Braves uniquely struggle with this because the fan base is so college football centric that they lose two games in a row and people lose their minds. You got to shift your mindset, especially later in the season. Once it is football season, that really starts to permeate.

Speaker 1:
[92:32] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[92:34] But yeah, they're on a five game win streak right now. I love it.

Speaker 1:
[92:36] That does. You make a great point there. I hadn't thought about that, but like the general fan base of the Braves, not everybody, but you probably have more college football fans than most other teams.

Speaker 4:
[92:48] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[92:48] That root for them. So yeah, not taking the losses too hard.

Speaker 4:
[92:52] Yeah, Braves, Facebook and Twitter are... If the Braves lose two or three games in a row, don't go on social media.

Speaker 1:
[92:59] So my grandfather, Jack, Jack was a big Braves fan, and that's where I grew up visiting him down in Greensboro, North Carolina, watching the Braves. And especially over the summertime, he got Braves every night, TBS. It was like clockwork. That's what we did. We watched the Braves. He was Frank the Tank before Frank the Tank. He and Sky was falling every single time anything bad happened. It actually didn't matter. It could be the first inning. Fred McGriff would get up, and Granddaddy Jack would be like, this is a terrible ball player, terrible ball player. I was like, it says that he's batting like 263. And he's like, I think they just make those numbers up. There's no way he's batting 263.

Speaker 4:
[93:39] So this was like mid-90s, like when they're in the World Series every year?

Speaker 1:
[93:43] Early to mid, one of my first baseball memories was them finishing in last place in their division, which I believe was 1989 or 1990.

Speaker 4:
[93:52] Well, 91, they went worst to first, so it could have been 90, but the 80s, they were pretty bad.

Speaker 1:
[93:57] They're bad, yeah, the Dale Murphy era.

Speaker 4:
[93:59] Right, but the 90s, obviously, they were awesome.

Speaker 1:
[94:00] They turned everything around. So yeah, I guess my first baseball memory was 1990, that Braves team, when they were in last place. Then they go worst to first, as did the Minnesota Twins that year. And then they play each other in the World Series, which is kind of cool.

Speaker 4:
[94:12] And the Twins cheated.

Speaker 1:
[94:15] How did they cheat?

Speaker 4:
[94:16] Kent Herbeck.

Speaker 1:
[94:17] Oh, Kent Herbeck. I thought you were going to talk about the umpiring as well.

Speaker 4:
[94:22] I'm not familiar with the umpiring in that series.

Speaker 1:
[94:24] They're just, you know, like, not calling it both ways, different strike zones. But yeah, there was a strong, strong element of Frank the Tank that ran through, to the point where he would say like, they're making up those stats that are on there because I've watched him play all year and he hasn't gotten a single hit.

Speaker 4:
[94:43] Fred McGriff, notably in the Hall of Fame now, right?

Speaker 1:
[94:47] That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[94:48] He was in like the senior committee or whatever?

Speaker 1:
[94:51] The crime dog.

Speaker 4:
[94:54] I've said this for years and I may have said it on this show. I don't recall. It's never been more true than it is right now. For all that people talk about Frank the Tank, he usually ends up being correct.

Speaker 1:
[95:08] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[95:08] The Mets have lost 11 games in a row.

Speaker 1:
[95:10] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[95:11] They may never win again.

Speaker 1:
[95:13] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[95:13] And I don't know if he said this at the time, but it did coincide with a visit from Comrade Mamdani. He showed up at the ballpark. They ain't won a game since.

Speaker 1:
[95:21] That's true. He gave Mr. and Mrs. Mets a hug.

Speaker 4:
[95:24] Yeah. And they've lost 11 in a row.

Speaker 1:
[95:27] Okay, so there's some times where I'll walk around in life and crazy stuff happens. We have an amazing opportunity, an amazing workplace and job where we get to do things that sometimes feel like we're in the middle of a simulation, where you get to meet people that like you never thought that you'd meet, et cetera, et cetera. But far more often, I walk around thinking I am in the middle of Frank the Tank simulation.

Speaker 4:
[95:49] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[95:49] Like I'm an NPC in Frank the Tank simulation. When something happens that brings his entire world view together in a manner so concise that it has to be the work of somebody behind the scenes, programming it or writing a script. And when Mayor Zoran Mondani showed up, gave Mr. and Mrs. Mett a giant hug. And then the Mets proceed to go on a massive losing streak. At that point, you have to take your hat off and you have to say, Frank was right.

Speaker 4:
[96:20] Well done.

Speaker 1:
[96:21] Because Frank has dreamed this out and probably verbalized it in the past that this is going to happen. This is just a unique moment where it feels like we're all just living inside of his universe.

Speaker 4:
[96:33] They're back home tonight for the Minnesota Twins. You think they can snap it?

Speaker 1:
[96:37] No. No, I don't.

Speaker 4:
[96:40] I would love, because at this point, so yesterday they lost, they were up one nothing in the ninth inning, gave up a run in the ninth and a run in the tenth to lose. And so now, from 11 on, every single night is must watch if they're in a game late in it. So I would love for this to get to like 15 or 16.

Speaker 1:
[96:58] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[97:00] They have the Twins and Rockies, so I mean, if you can't win one of those, man, at home.

Speaker 1:
[97:06] And they're playing Pink Pony Club.

Speaker 4:
[97:09] If someone who works at that ballpark has any sense of humor, they will play Pink Pony Club tonight.

Speaker 1:
[97:18] The funny, I actually think the funniest possible outcome would be Mets lose and there's some sort of charity function that Miramam Donny is at tonight, and he comes out on stage to Pink Pony Club at the charity function right before or as the Mets lose.

Speaker 4:
[97:35] That'd be incredible.

Speaker 1:
[97:36] And then it kicks right over to SVP, and his head is spinning.

Speaker 4:
[97:39] Oh, they're actually off today. So tomorrow, Tuesday, they start their series with the Twins. So they have an off day to think about it. Yeah, please play Pink Pony Club if you work at Citi Field. That would be unbelievable.

Speaker 1:
[97:52] And one thing people don't realize, but Big T does the best frankentank impression at the entire company. It's scary how perfect it is.

Speaker 4:
[97:59] Yeah, it's honestly too good. Yeah, you don't want to go too hard. I don't know if you can do it publicly. So it's, you know, but I do, I, it's pretty good.

Speaker 1:
[98:12] The start, like the way that you kick into it is always good.

Speaker 4:
[98:16] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[98:16] It's like that. That one, that noise.

Speaker 4:
[98:19] The clap. You got to do the clap.

Speaker 1:
[98:20] Well, keep in mind, just do the grunt and the clap because that's the start of Arian.

Speaker 4:
[98:24] No, no.

Speaker 1:
[98:24] Just the grunt and the clap.

Speaker 4:
[98:25] I don't want to be on for, I, Frank and I have a nice working relationship. People forget I, in New York, maybe you don't know, in the New York office, I had the first desk that you would see when you came into the content side of the office from the front door. So in, in like 2022 was, 22 was the year that the Mets were up like 11 games and blew it and the Braves won. The one, the division. So every morning after the Mets would lose and the Braves would win, Frank would come in right by me and just stop and he would go into a tirade. And so I have a lot of personal experience. So at some point you develop a, you know, just your brain remembers what it sounds like. And, and that's where that comes from. But I like Frank. He's, I defend him more than anyone. He's never wrong. He, the Mets always lose. The Braves never lose as he famously said.

Speaker 1:
[99:23] Yep.

Speaker 4:
[99:25] And, and he just keeps people keep getting mad at him for it. I don't know. They hated Frank because he told them the truth.

Speaker 1:
[99:30] He's right. Sometimes the truth hurts.

Speaker 4:
[99:32] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[99:34] From one goat to another, I'm working on my T-Bob transitions. I feel like that was a good T-Bob transition. From one goat to another, do you have any comments about Michael Jordan showing up at a NASCAR race and being featured on Fox Sports again yesterday? When I think he is a, technically speaking, an NBA contributor for NBC. Remember that?

Speaker 4:
[99:57] I do.

Speaker 1:
[99:57] I was thinking about that.

Speaker 4:
[99:58] They really sold that one.

Speaker 1:
[100:02] How much money do you think they paid Michael Jordan for? Was it like one?

Speaker 4:
[100:07] Two or three five-minute interviews with...

Speaker 1:
[100:11] I think it was one interview that was cut up. Yeah, Toreco. It was like one interview that was cut up into a couple different five-minute segments, right?

Speaker 4:
[100:19] And they were done by November. Like the rest of the NBA season, you never saw them again. I'm going to guess, I don't know if it's public or not, they had to pay him $20 million.

Speaker 1:
[100:33] Let's see. I'm just going to look up the press release...

Speaker 4:
[100:37] Maybe 15...

Speaker 1:
[100:37] .for when they announced it. It was about a year ago they announced it. And let's see what they said it was going to include. They list all of his accolades. Let's see. Looking at this press release right now on nbcsports.com, Michael Jordan, 6 time NBA Champion, will join NBC Sports coverage of the NBA as a special contributor. The announcement was made earlier today during NBCUniversal's upfront presentation. I'm excited to see the NBA back on NBC. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, they don't really announce any plans for him at all. So I guess they didn't lie about that. But this is a big splash during the upfronts.

Speaker 4:
[101:22] Barclay makes $21 million a year. I have a hard time believing Michael Jordan would have agreed to do anything for less than Charles Barclay.

Speaker 1:
[101:31] But he doesn't... That's the thing. It's like Charles Barclay shows up to work like every day.

Speaker 4:
[101:36] I understand that. I'm not saying that that's the way it should be. I'm just telling you from the mindset of Mike, he's not showing up for less than that.

Speaker 1:
[101:48] I could see that. I could see him being competitive. But I guarantee you that NBC did not pay him $21 million to do...

Speaker 4:
[101:55] Are you sure about that?...

Speaker 1:
[101:56] to do one interview. I'm not sure about anything.

Speaker 4:
[102:01] All right. I mean, they paid him a lot. So what's a lot to you? I think there was some sort of... I think they paid him a ton of money. He did this one thing and they were like, okay, what are we going to do with you next? And maybe nothing ever materialized. Maybe he said like, I'm done. I don't want to do anything. I don't know how it worked out. But they paid him a ton of money.

Speaker 1:
[102:22] He definitely got... I can ask around. I can try to find out.

Speaker 4:
[102:26] I mean, you would agree he for sure got 10.

Speaker 1:
[102:31] For one interview?

Speaker 4:
[102:32] Again, I don't think that was the plan.

Speaker 1:
[102:34] Right. But I would imagine if they just got one interview, they would probably try to get some of that money back.

Speaker 4:
[102:39] You think they are going to Michael Jordan asking for cash back?

Speaker 1:
[102:42] They might. If all that they got from him was like a 30 minute interview with Mike Torrico, if that's it. And they paid him $10 million for that.

Speaker 4:
[102:51] Them is the breaks. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[102:53] I'm sure...

Speaker 4:
[102:53] Why didn't you do more?

Speaker 1:
[102:54] I'm sure that the contract had some deliverables written down, like what they expected for the money.

Speaker 4:
[103:02] Okay. But if you were Michael Jordan and that were the case, would you not then deliver on that?

Speaker 1:
[103:08] I don't know. We need to...

Speaker 4:
[103:09] Like, are you giving up the money you signed up for? I find that difficult to believe.

Speaker 1:
[103:13] We got to take a closer look. Got to take a closer look.

Speaker 4:
[103:16] You know people in the biz.

Speaker 1:
[103:17] I do. So I'm going to ask. I'm going to ask around to see what happened.

Speaker 4:
[103:21] Yeah, find out.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 4:
[103:42] PFT, I need a contact at Shady Rays because I keep mine in my car, but then when I'm at home and I go out on a Saturday or something and I need them, but they're in the car and the car is all the way downstairs. If you could hook me up with somebody.

Speaker 1:
[103:54] Well, see, I paid for these myself.

Speaker 4:
[103:57] Is that what the store you're going with? How do I look?

Speaker 1:
[103:59] I do. Those look awesome on you. They look great.

Speaker 4:
[104:02] My great-grandmother used to have glasses with this print on them.

Speaker 1:
[104:06] Cool. Well, they look awesome on 40-year-old dudes too.

Speaker 4:
[104:10] Love it.

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Speaker 4:
[104:18] Oh, wow. That's an even better deal than I was thinking.

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Speaker 4:
[105:39] Yeah, those are the pro polarized.

Speaker 1:
[105:42] They're really good. I love every pair that I got. So anything else we want to get to today?

Speaker 4:
[105:50] There was just one thing I sent it. I meant to include it this morning and I forgot. I just sent it to you a little while ago. Did you see Noah Lyles' wedding video?

Speaker 1:
[105:58] I did see that, yeah. So what's the reaction to that, Ben?

Speaker 4:
[106:01] Not good. Ladies, y'all have seen this?

Speaker 6:
[106:04] I saw the first 10 seconds of it. Is it him being extremely underwhelmed?

Speaker 4:
[106:11] Yeah, so they do what the kids love to do now, the first look where your wife comes and taps you on the shoulder and you turn around and say how amazing she looks in her wedding dress. But he seemed not only unenthused but put off by the wedding dress. He says like, I can't believe you went with such and such, the princess dress or something.

Speaker 6:
[106:36] He got technical with it?

Speaker 4:
[106:38] She's like, oh yeah. He's like, that train is really long. He's critiquing the dress.

Speaker 6:
[106:48] May I watch real quick and report back?

Speaker 4:
[106:49] Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 1:
[106:52] So he's a strange guy. Noah Lyles, you might remember him from, he's always making content.

Speaker 4:
[106:59] World champion of what? His infamous quote.

Speaker 1:
[107:02] World champion of what for who?

Speaker 4:
[107:04] You don't remember this?

Speaker 1:
[107:05] Who do you say that about?

Speaker 4:
[107:06] He, when he was at the Olympics, he was critiquing how in American sports, we say world champions. He was like, world champion of what?

Speaker 1:
[107:15] Oh yeah, he did the thing where it's like baseball. You're not the world champion. Yeah, yeah. But when it comes to the Olympics, you are. And he's also, he's got dyslexia, ADD, anxiety and depression. He's been very open about that. But he's always, I've seen a lot of content against my will from Noah Lyles. So put it that way.

Speaker 4:
[107:36] I think that's fair.

Speaker 1:
[107:37] He's very fast. I have watched one of the fastest.

Speaker 6:
[107:40] I've watched the clip.

Speaker 1:
[107:42] It doesn't seem like he's super jazzed about the dress.

Speaker 5:
[107:47] It's just like weird because he knows he's being recorded.

Speaker 4:
[107:49] Yeah, like even if you, I mean, of all the times to say that.

Speaker 5:
[107:53] Just smile and hug.

Speaker 6:
[107:55] And just say that your wife looks beautiful.

Speaker 1:
[107:57] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[107:58] I know the bar, I mean, like I know it's hard to ask, but yeah, no. He goes in with a lot of, how are you going to dance in this? We're going to pin it up. He's asking a lot of questions right off the bat.

Speaker 4:
[108:09] I would never do this operation that they're doing. But I mean, there is only one thing that you can't do, and it's that.

Speaker 1:
[108:22] That's pretty much what he did, yeah.

Speaker 4:
[108:26] It seems like such an easy knock it out of the park.

Speaker 1:
[108:28] Yeah. You look beautiful.

Speaker 4:
[108:31] He struck out.

Speaker 1:
[108:32] Oh my God.

Speaker 4:
[108:33] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[108:34] Oh my gosh, I'm so. And then she said, he doesn't say anything about how beautiful she looks or how excited she is. Then she basically folds into him and said, oh my gosh, I'm so nervous. He goes, why?

Speaker 4:
[108:47] Yeah, it's really odd. And how did that video get out? Who put that out?

Speaker 6:
[108:51] It seems to be like.

Speaker 4:
[108:53] Surely not them.

Speaker 6:
[108:56] It might be.

Speaker 4:
[108:57] Yeah, I don't know. Weird.

Speaker 5:
[108:59] It might have been the wedding.

Speaker 6:
[109:00] Like the wedding photography. Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[109:02] Yeah, weird deal. I don't know. But people were not happy.

Speaker 6:
[109:06] I always say though, if that's how your husband reacts on the wedding day, I'm sure that's not his first time saying something like that. You chose him. Maybe that's just how he is.

Speaker 4:
[109:21] I don't want to make sweeping generalizations. It was just an interesting video.

Speaker 6:
[109:24] It is an interesting. I'll put it this way. If that is how my husband reacted to me in that same situation, I'd be upset.

Speaker 1:
[109:36] Yeah, you just want to see him excited.

Speaker 6:
[109:40] Yeah, God forbid.

Speaker 4:
[109:41] And if nothing else, even if you hate the dress, whatever, you know you're being filmed.

Speaker 1:
[109:45] Right.

Speaker 4:
[109:46] I can't imagine having an opinion so strong about the dress to begin with. You know what?

Speaker 1:
[109:51] Almost respect to him for not reacting at all in a positive way.

Speaker 4:
[109:56] I mean, you know that was what he really thought. He's not fake.

Speaker 1:
[109:59] He's not fake.

Speaker 4:
[109:59] You can't say that.

Speaker 1:
[110:00] Because if he was going to fake it, he'd be like, oh my God. And it would be like, you could tell that he was being, he was being a hundred, he was being an asshole, but like an authentic asshole about it.

Speaker 4:
[110:08] Yeah, fair enough. We appreciate authenticity.

Speaker 1:
[110:12] We do. All right. Well, hey, good episode of Nano Dosing today. I think we made some progress on the Top Gun 3 thing. It's major inroads on that, but we will be back on Thursday. Love you guys.

Speaker 4:
[110:28] Goodbye.