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Speaker 1:
[00:08] Hello, and welcome to She's All Bach. I'm your host, Stefanie, and today we have Bailey Taylor Brown. You know her from Grant's season of The Bachelor and also Bachelor in Paradise. Bailey, welcome to She's All Bach. Hi, Stefanie, I'm so excited to be here. I'm so excited to have you. Let's talk about Grant's season for a hot minute. You were there for three weeks?

Speaker 2:
[00:27] Week three, I was there for a brief, brief, brief moment.

Speaker 1:
[00:31] So out of the limo, you actually gave Grant your cell phone and you asked him to take pictures of you, which iconic. I need to know, was that actually your cell phone?

Speaker 2:
[00:40] It's so funny that you say this. I have to debunk this all the time. I'm like, guys, that is not my phone. That was not my phone. They don't, everyone knows we don't have our phones. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[00:49] They would not give me my phone for the night.

Speaker 2:
[00:52] That was a prop phone. It wasn't even a producer's phone. Like it was fully a prop phone. There were no contact.

Speaker 1:
[00:57] Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:
[00:57] Yeah. Like it's, it's a prop phone. So it still works as an iPhone, but it doesn't have service or anything like, like no wifi. So yeah. And I mean, you know, like that makes sense. Why would I get to have my phone and everyone else wouldn't get to have their phone?

Speaker 1:
[01:11] But I thought, I didn't think you were going to say it was your phone, but I did think you were going to say it was like a PA's phone.

Speaker 2:
[01:17] No, I don't think so. Like there was, there were no photos on the phone. Like I looked through the phone, of course, when they gave it to me, I was like, whose phone is it? No, there was nothing. The phone was like basically wiped. So I don't know. They probably have a phone like on hand for moments of, like even in paradise, like they gave us a phone to like take pictures of and there was nothing on that phone. So yeah, so it was like a fully wiped phone. And also I think everyone that knows me knows that I would never have a phone with like that kind of phone case. Like I just like to like have fun with my phone cases and I like for them to be like very pretty and pink. And so yeah, I would never have that phone case. That was not, that was not the vibe.

Speaker 1:
[01:51] No, and that's rude that they didn't think that through and that you didn't have a phone case.

Speaker 2:
[01:55] Well, to be fair, it was definitely like a fully last minute decision. Like I did not come in thinking that was going to be my limo entrance. Like I came in with a different, you know, everyone kind of has a limo entrance in their mind. Like when you're on the plane, I'm like thinking about it. And I came in and they were like, we got to scratch our idea because I originally, I didn't do that much research about Grant. To be fair, I really wanted to go into it with like a very open mind. And, you know, I just wanted to like get to know him first and everything like that. But I have a dog. I thought he had a dog, but it was actually his sister's dog. So when I got there, I was like, we're going to do like a dog parent thing. They were like, that is not his dog. Thank God they told you. No, yeah. Thank God. I would have been like, I would have been so sad. I would have been like, oh shit. Like, I don't know. So it was a very last minute impromptu decision. And we kind of all like put together ideas like a bunch of people together. So I was like, all right, like I love that. I've always loved a bit. Like everyone that knows me for my season knows that like I love a bit. I think it's so funny. My mom was a comedian, so I just I love like doing funny things. I was just like, yeah, that's hilarious. And it didn't get received well online, I feel like. I think people...

Speaker 1:
[03:06] Wait, why? I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[03:08] People thought it was like very conceited of me to take selfies and to make Grant take pictures of me, which I get.

Speaker 1:
[03:14] People will complain about literally anything, though, like come on.

Speaker 2:
[03:17] And I think now when they get to know me, they're like, that was hilarious. But everyone that knows me, like my mom thought my limo entrance was the funniest thing ever. She was like, that is so you. And everyone that knows me knows like every person around me has to take pictures of me. It doesn't matter. Like if I like my outfit, I want a photo in it. Jeremy takes literally all of my Instagram pictures now. Like anytime we travel, he has to clock in. Like there's, it's a serious thing. It doesn't matter if it's for me, for my memories. Like I still want these pictures, even if they're not getting posted. So yeah, I thought the limo entrance was funny.

Speaker 1:
[03:51] Iconic. And Jeremy does a really good job. That actually was one of my questions was that, does Jeremy take them all? Because he does really good.

Speaker 2:
[03:58] No, he's, he's really-

Speaker 1:
[03:59] You've taught him well.

Speaker 2:
[03:59] Yeah, I've taught him well. And like he would take some of my photos in Paradise. Like he would really, like he's, he's clocked in. He's clocked in. He does a good job.

Speaker 1:
[04:07] So did you ever feel like you had a connection with Grant or when you were sent home, you were like, all right, it's my time.

Speaker 2:
[04:12] It's so hard because I, obviously in the moment, like you're really just focused on that person. So you're, you know, you're like, okay, yes. Like I'm really feeling and there's a lot of things that I think we had in common. I think everyone's there. Like, you know, no one's just like placed there for a crazy reason. Everyone has a different connection to him. Like everyone is whether it's like basketball or like how your family was raised or whatever it is. So like I think in that moment, I was like, yeah, I could see this as something, you know, like actually, I honestly wouldn't have gone. I feel like it would be really hard to like fake those feelings and like be that emotionally vulnerable. Like it is such a intense emotional like state that you're in. Like you're really like focused on that person. But I feel like when I did go home, I kind of like knew I was like ready to go home and I had this wasn't like erred, but there was a moment where I like pretty much told him I was like, you know, I really like wouldn't be here if I didn't really see a connection because this is a lot emotionally and mentally like it's very taxing. It's obviously very worth it. Like I have lifelong friends. Like, you know, this moment like led me to Jeremy. Like there's so many great things that have come out of this like experience, but I was like, it is still very mentally taxing. Like I haven't had my phone. I haven't played Candy Crush. I haven't done. I'm like, there's so many things I only have this prop phone.

Speaker 1:
[05:32] Like, what am I supposed to do?

Speaker 2:
[05:33] I don't even have the prop phone. They gave me the prop phone for like an hour. They took it. I was like, wait, can I have the prop phone back? Like, can I have a digit?

Speaker 1:
[05:40] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[05:41] Can I have something like, and I, you know, so I was like, oh, this is a lot. And I wouldn't be here, you know, if I didn't see it. But I think when I went home, I think it was kind of the perfect time for me. I wasn't like as, you know, this wasn't like the love of my life. So I wasn't like, you know, devastated. I wasn't like in the dumps. I was more just like, oh, I miss my friends and I want to be there with them. And I feel like that was the best part. I was like, you like bond with the girls. And I was like, wait, they're like out of the country and I'm not there. And it was also like, grand season was really short. It was like very sped through. So when I went home, even though it was week three, only half the girls were left. So there's only like 10 girls after week three.

Speaker 1:
[06:25] How many days were you actually filming?

Speaker 2:
[06:27] We were actually filming, our weeks were like four days long. So, yeah, like, and then plus, you know, the time before. So yeah, it was like, it's still around the same time, but I think the amount of girls that went home, it was just so much shorter.

Speaker 1:
[06:41] Right, but we're talking about like a week and a half versus actually on the show, we're being told like week three, we're thinking you're like spending three weeks with this person, or at least together in the house, and you're not.

Speaker 2:
[06:51] There's no moments off camera that like you're really spending with Grant. They're all on camera. So like those are still like the same time moments, but obviously they can't show like all the time that the girls are spending together. I think it was like four or five for like a week. And that's kind of honestly how it was in Paradise. Like the weeks are definitely like shortened because there's so much. And honestly, I think it's kind of perfect that way, because I can't fathom if they actually spent a whole week because there's so much time in between and they can only fit so much into one episode. So yeah, I feel like though you're kind of like disoriented, it kind of ends up working out. So yeah, three weeks, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[07:27] I heard about group dates. People say there's a lot of hurry up and wait. Like everyone's rushing to get to the group date, but then they're like setting up or like producers are pulling people. So like there's a lot of waiting around. So I imagine if there were, if there was extra time added on, it would be that much longer.

Speaker 2:
[07:43] Oh my god, it would probably be so long. Honestly, like I kind of loved the group date. It's a weird dynamic in your head because you're like, oh, did I just like watch him make out with someone on stage? Obviously, that's, I just like took that on my brain when that happened. But I was like, oh, you know, I'm not here right now. But I kind of loved it because I feel like the girls, we actually really got to bond. Like the drive there, we like would sing and dance. And like, I kind of, yeah, it is a lot of hurry up and wait, but like, I feel like it's nice to be with your girls and like, everyone's got to do interviews. Like, there's a lot that goes into it.

Speaker 1:
[08:16] By the time you left, who did you think was going to be the final Rose recipient?

Speaker 2:
[08:22] I feel like I always knew, like I really did think it was going to be Latia at the end of it. Like, I think, I don't know. I mean, I think you hear your friends' conversations and you're like, okay, a little different than like mine and what's going on. But I think the whole thing was really shocking because I think that there's some girls that I was genuinely like jaw on the ground, that they went home night one. So I also like when I went home, I was like, I have no idea what's going to happen. And like that's kind of how until everyone got home, I didn't know what was going to happen. You know what I mean? Until I like went and was with the girls, I was like, I have literally no idea what could happen. It's I'm like the decisions every week. I'm literally like jaw on the ground shocked.

Speaker 1:
[09:05] So how soon after Grant season are you contacted for Paradise?

Speaker 2:
[09:09] I'm trying to think about when I got contacted was like in the beginning when Grant season like first aired. So I think everyone gets contacted at different areas. I think it's a little harder if you went home earlier like I did, you kind of don't you're like in limbo. You're like, you don't know. But I think there were girls, a lot of girls that were contacted after me. So I was kind of more in like the second round of girls that like, you know, started the whole process to do it. But I think you can also kind of tell about what they show when it's going on, because obviously if you're going on, I think I also kind of knew a little bit, like around the second episode, I was like, oh, I'm in this episode a lot. So they probably want me to go to Paradise because they wouldn't spend that much time showing me going home if they, you know what I mean? Showing all these different, I was kind of like, oh, I got my first episode. Like if before that I was like, oh, I got my first episode. Like I have no idea what could happen. Like I hope they show a less vapid version of me as like, I hope people get to also understand my personality and kind of take back the layers of me as well. And then I think I also kind of got that on the second and third episode. So I feel like I actually got a lot of screen time, which made me think, oh, maybe I am being considered for Paradise. And then kind of after I got contacted, like right after the second episode, I was like, oh, okay, yeah. But it's still like a limbo thing. I didn't even know if I like wanted to do it because I was like, this is a lot emotionally for me to like put myself back out there and to be in that spotlight again.

Speaker 1:
[10:41] Well, so by the time Women Tell All, you're filming that, did you know or have an idea that you were going to Paradise?

Speaker 2:
[10:47] Honestly, I didn't know that I was going to Paradise. Like I didn't know I was going to Paradise until a week before. When I was doing my Women Tell All outfit in my head, I was like, you know, I'm gonna dress like I want Paradise. Like I'm gonna wear my hair like I planned to on Paradise because like that's what I'm gonna do. And I was like, it's your audition.

Speaker 1:
[11:05] Yeah, I was like, and it literally is.

Speaker 2:
[11:07] And you know, a lot of people say Women Tell All is literally an audition for Paradise. I think it's still so hard to say that because like I was very scared going into Women Tell All. I was like, ooh, I cannot like get up. And I can't say, I was like, I can't say so. I know in my head, like there's moments and things that I wanted to like defend, but I was like, I'm just gonna try to dress the part and hope that it comes to me. And that's really what I did. But yeah, it's hard. I feel like nobody at Women Tell All knew. Every girl that I mostly talked to from my season at least that went to Paradise, we kind of all found out around at the same time.

Speaker 1:
[11:44] I would think that your seating placement at Women Tell All would have tipped you off though. You were first.

Speaker 2:
[11:49] Okay, yes. So that did make me think, you're right. And I should have like really, I should have thought about that. Because I was like, when I saw it, I was like, oh, we're gonna be sitting in like the order that we went home. Like that would, that's what would make sense to me. And then I got, I'm like, wait, why am I sitting on the front row? Like I was telling my producer, I was like, cause they knew, they knew you'd be a star. I was like, I'm stressed, I can't sit on the front row. And like, I'm not afraid of confrontation.

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Speaker 2:
[15:21] Honestly, this sounds so crazy, but I went into it with no thoughts. I did make, obviously everybody, majority of people make a list. And I, the way I made my list is I went through like the whole like whatever, The Bachelor page, where it shows everyone that was on every season. And I went on everyone's Instagram and I was like, all right, I feel like I went off vibe. So I was like, I feel like their vibe, like I'm enjoying some of their posts or whatever. And I didn't really have anyone in my head that I was like, oh, I have to see this person. I more just had a list of people that I was like, I feel like I would maybe connect with these people. And when I went in, I was also just like, I didn't really like my time, I'm thinking how long I had been in Bachelor Nation before Paradise, it was maybe like what, like six or seven months. I didn't really have time to meet anybody. I live in Atlanta. There's not that many Bachelor people in Atlanta. And I was just like, I don't know. Like I met the guys for like three seconds that were at Tell All, didn't like really hit it off with any, literally Jeremy was like at our Tell All like after, I don't even know if we really spoke. Yeah, like I think we said hi, like I, you know, hugged everyone, said hi, but I didn't really like connect with anyone. So I was nervous going into Paradise because I felt like maybe I was the only person that hadn't really talked to anybody or DM'd anybody before. And I was like, I don't know what could happen. I literally told my friends, I was like, I'm going to be there for two weeks and probably be home. I was like, I was like, don't expect me to be gone for like the entire time. And turns out I was gone for the entire time.

Speaker 1:
[16:57] Turns out, yeah. I have so many like random questions about Paradise that, okay. So before you, so this season of Paradise was unlike any other. Did you know that it was going to be as different as it actually was? For example, there was air conditioning. Were you privy to this information prior to going?

Speaker 2:
[17:16] No. Truthfully, I had no idea. The only thing I knew, I could tell that this season was going to be very different because they were really strict about who they invited to Paradise. Like they, I swear, put so much, like a lot of people or girls that I expected to also be at Paradise with me, did not get invited to Paradise, which I was like-

Speaker 1:
[17:39] Like Carolina.

Speaker 2:
[17:40] I know. And I mean, I think, you know, I like Carolina and I are friends. Like I would have expected her to be, like, I don't know. They were a lot of, I was like, they're doing, they're putting a lot of thought, not saying that they don't put a lot of thought and effort, but I do feel like usually a lot of, at least 10, 10-ish girls from the last season get to go on Paradise. And I think there was like six or seven of us from Grant season. So I was like, they're being really strict about who they're gonna let go. And I was like, that's definitely a little, I don't know what that means. Like I was like, I have, maybe they're having past people come more, like I didn't know what to expect. So I kind of, that was my only inkling. And I did kind of like in the calls, like when they were talking to me, they were like, it's gonna be so much nicer. I feel like you're really gonna feel at home. You're really gonna have moments to shine. And I didn't really watch Old Paradise. The only Paradise I've ever watched was Hannah G's season. So I had no idea what to expect. I was like, oh, I hope it's not, I was like, I hope I'm not sleeping outside.

Speaker 1:
[18:41] I mean, it's completely different from that. Now, like looking, comparing the two, it's like night and day. I mean, you guys got to sleep in each other's rooms. Whereas in the other seasons, you had to like literally fight over the boom boom room. And that was the room with air conditioning and you weren't guaranteed it. Can you tell me about the sleeping arrangements? I know you guys had roommates at first, but as people went home, people then started to have their own rooms. Were people like having fantasy suites or just at least spending time in their room alone with the people they were dating on the show?

Speaker 2:
[19:14] So I would say that nobody spent time with their partner like overnight until we got into the competition aspect. So originally everyone like, you know, until I think couples were like really finalized, like there wasn't a lot of like any of that going on. Everything was pretty much filmed. Like, you know, there's still cameras in our room. So you're never really like off camera, if that makes sense. But yeah, we like, we stayed with our roommates, I would say for the first, almost like 15, it's like 30, it's like a month. So I would say like maybe the first like 15 days. And then as we kind of started getting into our couples, I feel like at that point we had like the extra room space. So it kind of just made more sense. I think we all just honestly wanted to spend that time with our partner. And then like obviously Lea and Jonathan did not sleep in the same room. They slept separately. And sometimes when like there was a lot going on, we would still not sleep with our partner. We would like sleep because there's like still two beds. So we would like sleep in separate beds or we would like, you know. So it wasn't as much like intense stuff going on as someone would think, but it was honestly like, I feel like those moments of how it would be in a normal relationship is like you having sleepovers with your boyfriend were really nice. It felt like we got time to just like also be away from the noise and obviously you're still being recorded. But you know, everything you're saying is being recorded. So yeah, I don't know. I felt like it was kind of nice. I think that was a good addition at least to how we still have like three couples that are still together. I feel like maybe that kind of helped in a way.

Speaker 1:
[20:46] Totally. I actually feel like they should have done that in previous seasons. I just think as the viewer, it would have been nice to see more of that. I know we saw, there was one fight I think Brian and Parisa had in bed that we saw. And that was when everyone was like, well, wait, they're all like, wait, yeah, this is why aren't we don't even know this. Like at least if they were like, showed you guys closing the door or something to let the viewer know, like, oh, hey, like they're spending time together just because this is so unprecedented for this show.

Speaker 2:
[21:16] I agree. I didn't I didn't realize that that was such a big deal in the moment. I was like, oh, wait, I forgot that.

Speaker 1:
[21:21] Well, you didn't watch it.

Speaker 2:
[21:23] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[21:23] So you probably just OK. So Hannah Brown was on this season. Question I've always had. Was there actually a champagne room?

Speaker 2:
[21:31] So what is like a champagne bar that was like seated at the front and there were like chairs around it. And she did do her job. And honestly, I really enjoyed having her there. We have some mutual friends from like my old internship that I did when I was in LA. And so that was nice because I feel like she was a really good person to just get advice from. I think that was a really good thing. Like I felt like I had the Goldens. Like I had West. I feel like we had Hannah. Like there was a lot. Like I said West, Wells. I had Wells. Like we had Hannah and Jessie. Like I think, I feel like we got a lot of good people to ask advice on or to talk to. Whereas maybe in past seasons, like I guess you really wouldn't have that. You would only have Wells. So I did really enjoy having Hannah there. And honestly, like sometimes you don't want to like drink a margarita, so it was nice, like having a champagne to start, you know.

Speaker 1:
[22:24] Well, that's my drink of choice.

Speaker 2:
[22:25] I was like, it wasn't a whole room though. It was like, she had like, and it was beautiful. Like they had little treats around her. Like she had a whole setup. They kind of made it feel like maybe it was like a side room, but there were chairs around her and treats and champagne. So it was like still very nice.

Speaker 1:
[22:42] Yeah. Is it true she left early to go to her own wedding?

Speaker 3:
[22:46] I don't think she went to her wedding.

Speaker 2:
[22:47] I think she went to her bachelorette because it was only like the last episode. So like that like small week, she was, I feel like she maybe wasn't there. I actually don't fully remember. I feel like she was there for part of it and then she had to leave because I feel like I remember us saying bye to her, but she wasn't there for like the finale.

Speaker 1:
[23:05] So the intros were something that got a lot of attention this year because in the past, they were very memorable. Bachelor in Paradise was known for their intros. What did you think about the new intros? And if you can walk me through how you guys filmed them because people said that there was just like a camera there all day and you were told to walk up to it. Is that true?

Speaker 2:
[23:27] Oh, yeah. So I thought it was so cool. So the camera was there all day, like doing the sunset, the sunrise. Like they filmed all of that. Like it was just one camera. It stayed stationary. And then I think every like one or two days somebody would go. So like Alex and I did our intros together. So like we went together and then we did one separately as well. I feel like though we were only shown, I think together the entire time.

Speaker 1:
[23:53] Well, that was my question. Why were you guys, you guys were like the only ones in the beginning that had shots together.

Speaker 2:
[23:59] I feel like I remember, I think also Jonathan and Jeremy shot their intros together. And I feel like in the moment, like, you know, Alex and I were roommates. We were just like, yeah, why not do our intros together? Like we were like, that's so cute and fun. And then we still filmed separate ones, like thinking they would maybe use both.

Speaker 1:
[24:16] One episode, you guys were like birds. Like they just like really changed it up a lot. Like they made... Can you tell me about The Reunion and do you know why it didn't air on TV?

Speaker 2:
[24:26] Oh, I have, you know, they tell us nothing. So I had no idea. I wish that it would have aired on TV. I think a lot of people wanted it to air on TV. I also just like watching Reunions on TV. I think it's a little hard on a podcast because everyone's voices are a little bit layered and you don't, and honestly like no shade. Some of us really sound very similar. So you can't really differentiate like who's talking in that moment. I think it's easier to kind of like see the dynamic, see people's faces, get people's reactions. I know it went out on YouTube, but I personally never watched the YouTube. I've only listened to the podcast. So I think it should have gone on Hulu as well just for people to watch. But I think maybe they were like trying to also navigate like the whole streaming and things airing on TV too. I mean, that's just a speculation. So I don't really know. They really tell us. They tell us nothing. I find out just as you guys do everything. I'm like, I don't know what's happening.

Speaker 1:
[25:24] How was it watching this season back? Because like I said, you were the focal point of a lot of story lines. I know it wasn't necessarily easy for you. You were with Jeremy, though, at the time of obviously you guys are still together now. Was it easier having him watching it back? Did you guys watch it back together?

Speaker 2:
[25:41] So most of it we watched back together. There were like maybe two episodes where we were not together because I was in Portugal and then he was going to be joining me later. I mean, obviously, it's still hard. Like, it's never going to be easy to like watch those things like unfold and happen. I mean, it's also really hard, I think, for both of us to watch the person that you're dating, like kiss somebody else. I think that's a shell shock in its own. And I mean, it's hard. I think it's also hard because, like, when you think about how much hate we were getting, it was just so overwhelming. And I think people... And I get it sometimes because a lot of bachelor relationships are very, like, picture perfect and all these things are going right. But I also think that's just not, like, an indicator of, like, what real relationships are like in the real world. Like, they're not. I mean, even in the real world, you're not knowing, like, what your partner's thinking or what's going through their head. And also, like, you're having to make decisions in paradise, like, without the help of, like, anyone else. Which, I mean, that's kind of how it should be anyway. But you're having to kind of, like, think out loud of all your decisions when maybe, like, that's not what you would be doing. You know, you have more time. You have, what, a few hours to make a decision right there. And you kind of have to talk it out loud to know that you're, you know, so that you're processing it. Also, you have to, like, do interviews and stuff. So, it was hard. Like, of course, it was hard watching it back. I honestly don't think I would have made it through if I didn't have him, just because, like, he was just such a rock for me. I was used to already getting hate. Like, when I got hate from the first episode from Grant's season, I think it was hard. And then I, like, remembered who I was, and then I got over it. I don't think anything could have prepared me for the amount of hate that, like, we received on this season. I expected people to be upset about it, or to be upset about things, but I think that people kind of blew it out of proportion, and I still say this. I was like, it's just like a real normal relationship. Like, that's kind of how they unfold in the real world. So, like, not every relationship that comes out of paradise is gonna be like, oh, picture, and, like, also things are, like, taken out, and I think also what was really frustrating for us is that there were so many, like, beautiful moments and beautiful conversations where we did talk it through, or, like, where I was able to, like, hold him accountable about things, and we, you know, and he took accountability for those things, and where we, like, kind of expressed how we would move forward from it, and they just, they weren't shown. And so it kind of made it seem like I was just, like, letting him off, or, and I was more mad at Alex, or something like that, and that, like, wasn't the case at all. Honestly, in the moment, I wasn't mad at any of the girls, number one, because we're in a competition, so do I want us to get voted off, because, like, I freaked out at all the girls? Like, no. Also, these are my friends, like, this is who I'm confiding in, and, like, that's kind of, like, how I was, like, you know, I'm processing all of it in the moment, and so I, like, I didn't have anyone else to lean on, but, like, my friends or Jeremy during Paradise, so I wasn't, though it may seem in the moment, like, I'm, like, letting every, like, everyone's getting off on, you know, everything's fine, there's just, there's so many layers and, like, factors to it, and there's a lot of, like, missed conversations. So, yeah, I wish those were kind of shown. I think that was frustrating when we watched All Bach, because they kind of made it seem like it was, obviously, we knew it was gonna be a focal point, but it definitely was dragged out longer than we were expecting.

Speaker 1:
[29:05] Probably, like, four episodes where they made that a story line.

Speaker 2:
[29:08] Oh, I mean, Jeremy and I were getting an enormous amount of hate, and to the point where everyone checking in on us and the cast was just to check in and make sure we were okay with all the hate that we were getting. And so, I think it wasn't that we were not trying to check on the cast when they were getting hate, but it's also, like, it's really hard in that moment, because you're just getting shit on constantly. Everything you post, it's getting shit on. People think you have low self-esteem. They think you're a dummy. Like, it's, there's so much that goes into it. And also, it was, like, hard for me to watch that back because I was like, oh, like, in that moment, I did, like, kind of feel like, you know, like, I was already feeling alone. And, like, you know, I think it just, like, reinforced some of those feelings for me. And so, even, like, when I did Viall Files, like, I didn't want to add any hate to anyone. I was very, very careful about the things that I said and, like, how I portrayed them because I did also realize that some of my cast mates were getting hate when, honestly, some of them just didn't know. Like, Leia, Alicia, like, they had no idea what was going on, like, during it. And I have to say, like, even some of the girls, like, I wouldn't necessarily, like, expect Kat to say something to me like that because, like, her and I weren't as close. Like, but in those moments, like, I obviously had had closer friends. So that's also something that's just, it's hard and it's also hard in the moment. And so I don't, like, fault them for that because it is hard in the moment to, like, want to go up against when you see, like, if things look nice, you know, why add to it and why make it worse? You know, so I kind of also, I think, understand them maybe not wanting to tell me. I've always said, like, is that how I would move? No, but I can't also, like, speak to how people are. Like, they're they're navigating their own relationships. They're navigating this competition. And maybe they didn't want to, like, throw me off my game. And they probably knew that it would, like, you know what I mean? And it did throw me off. It threw me really far off my game. So I also, I understand, like, where some of the girls are coming from, that, like, you know, I am closer to as, like, not wanting to tell me. It's obviously hard just to watch it back and be like, oh, my God, I had no idea that this was going on. In all fronts. So, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:16] I remember Alex tweeting something to the effect of that she knew, but then Jeremy told her that you guys talked, so she was just like, okay, great, and, like, assumed all was fine. So I guess maybe there was, like, also a lot of people who maybe were naive to what the reality was and didn't know the full story.

Speaker 2:
[31:33] Yeah, and I think that, too. I think a lot of people didn't have all the, like, the parts to it. And, like, even in the moment, like, you kind of do forget, like, what has happened, what is being said, and, like, kind of what's going on. Things are changing in Paradise literally every day. There's, like, a new thing to, like, keep up with. So I really, like, no, I don't fault any of the girls, like, and I understand not wanting to, you know, add to the drama or, like, disrupt, like, a couple or relationship that, like, is going really well. And so, and I mean, yeah, they may, they didn't have all the facts anyway, or even, like, known what was going on. So, yeah, we're, it's all good now, but, yeah, obviously, it's also hard to watch it back.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[33:45] Storyline, I think really it was like a heat of the moment thing. Like I don't know. I obviously didn't even know that that really, obviously I knew it happened when we got home and we talked about it. But beforehand, when that was happening, I had no idea that it happened. So I don't know really what like fully went into it thoughts wise and just with everything else. But I mean, it was hard because like even after I felt really bad about going on the date, I was like, you know, I found my person. Even then, I knew that there were things that we had already said that there were things we were gonna talk about after we got home from this that like we needed to discuss. And I think it was one of those things. It's really hard to want to have a private moment when you realize all of your life and your relationship is very public knowledge. So I think it was like a hopeful to have a private moment and discuss what had happened in the phone call, but it obviously never, we didn't get to have that. So after it all aired, Susie and I also like talked, like we're friends. I adore her, I think she's an amazing person. And she was like, honestly, like the reason I said no is because I knew how much he liked you. And she even like said in her message to me, she was just like, I knew how much he cared for you, how he talked about you on our date. Like I didn't even really think that he was going to choose me. And so she was like, when he asked me to come, like I just knew it wasn't going to be like a good thing. Like she's like, she kind of said to me, she was like, I knew it would have still ended up the same way as it was going to happen. So I feel like that also gave me a lot of peace of mind. And I really appreciated her. Like she checked on me very frequently. And I know she was also like, that was a really big emotional thing for her as well. And like that, like that's hard. It's hard on all fronts for, for my friends, for him, for her, like it's hard for me. It was hard on everyone. And also I think it was just like, that's just how like how the real world is. Like there's a lot of moving pieces and parts to it. And so, you know, I feel like us going through that also made it now, like we're like really easy sailing. You know what I mean? I'm like, we've already got, yeah. I'm like, we've gone through a lot. And I feel like us being able to like move on from that and grow from that and not even like take it that deeply because at the end of the day, it still is a TV show. And there's so many conversations that weren't aired or weren't shown or moments or things. So yeah, it's hard. But I will say I really appreciated Susie like reaching out to me and coming to me and talking to me about things. And you know, cause you're always like wondering, like what happened on the date that I didn't see and all these things. And so I feel like it also helped add on to like the peace of mind that I already had.

Speaker 1:
[36:19] Yeah, she's a girl's girl. That's really cool that.

Speaker 2:
[36:22] No, she's she's the best.

Speaker 1:
[36:23] And like also, you didn't really know him at the time. Like you guys were on a TV show as strangers.

Speaker 2:
[36:28] Yeah, like that was like day seven.

Speaker 1:
[36:30] Like, come on guys.

Speaker 2:
[36:31] I'm like, it wasn't, I don't even know if it was day seven, honestly. Like the days in Paradise were really, really short. People should know that. I can't say how short they were. They were really short.

Speaker 1:
[36:42] What do you mean by that though? The days were short?

Speaker 2:
[36:45] Like the weeks, it looks like it's a week, but it's not, you know what I mean? Like it's, some people were on the beach for 24 hours.

Speaker 1:
[36:52] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:53] And that's just not enough time to do things. So like, I literally did only know. And I think that's also what was really hard for Jeremy and I watching it back. And I think even like some of the cast, just like about how things were being portrayed or shown, I'm like, this is like day six, you know what I mean? And it's being dragged out, and even when it is being dragged out, it's still only day 14 at that point, day 12. So it's kind of like, I've known this person for two weeks. I didn't know him before. I barely met him at Woman Tell All. So that's awesome. So I think that's also why I was like, oh, it's not that deep.

Speaker 1:
[37:30] It's really not that deep, guys. We all know that on the show. But so you bring up Viall Files. And I want to read your quote if you're okay with this, because you commented on a video of mine about the Viall Files. And you said, girl, if you only knew how mean he was to me when I was on his podcast, thankfully, they cut it out when they put out the podcast, but it was so mean, I was scared to say anything the entire podcast, and it threw me off. What the hell did this man do to you?

Speaker 2:
[37:59] Yeah. So to be fair, Viall Files was my first non-Bachelor podcast, so when they reached out to me, I think this was, I don't know if the phone call, oh no, the phone call had happened, because Jeremy and I were in Portugal together at that point. My mom was there. I was like, oh, I'm excited to do this. I did have a lot of reservations, just because even when I was texting my friends, I was like, oh, I got asked to do this. I'm excited, because I haven't done a non-Bachelor podcast yet, and I've been asked to, but I was like, I haven't gotten to do one yet. I also thought it was them wanting to get to know me. I knew we were going to talk about the phone call. I knew we were going to talk about things. But I also thought it was going to be for them to get to know me, because also, to be fair, I was on for three weeks on Grant season. Nobody really knows me. They know what was happening on Grant season, which is not all that I am. So yeah, and I had some reservations, and I definitely went into it with a mindset. I was like, I'm going to be really careful about what I say. I was like, my boyfriend's receiving hate, my friends are receiving hate, I'm receiving hate. I want this to go really well, because I want to maybe clear up some things so that people are not taking all these things so deeply and attacking the people that I care about. I don't want any of my, even, I didn't love Brian receiving more hate. He's literally already getting shit on. I didn't want Parisa receiving more hate. I didn't want anybody receiving hate, because it's hard and I feel like I was already dealing with it, so I kind of also understood that. So yeah, when I got asked, I had reservations, but I was still excited, because I was like, this is like a big platform. I feel like this could be a good way for me to clear things up and then maybe like, you know, when we do get to announce our relationship, people will, you know, feel more at peace, like knowing that there's more to the story. And then when I got on the podcast, I'm not, number one, I have nothing against Rachel Ruckia. I really like her as a person. I love, I love Happy Hour. I love what her and Charity do. Like, I think she's a really great person. I don't have anything bad to say. I think the hard part is like, she was heavily talking trash about Jeremy, like online, like while Paradise was airing. And like, obviously, like that's, he's my boyfriend. So like, I noticed that, like he even like, she had followed him like during it. And I still really like her, like her and I DM, like I have nothing bad to say. But obviously, I didn't know she was gonna be on the podcast with me. So I didn't, so I got on and then Rachel was on there and I was like, oh, okay. Not that anything's bad with that, but I didn't know. And I maybe wouldn't have agreed to it just because I know that Rachel and Jeremy's relationship at the time, like where they were as friends, like wasn't really in a good place. You know what I mean? And that's okay. Like she does a podcast, like she's entitled to her own opinions. But still, like I still care about my relationship and it's like a hard thing to do. And so nothing against her. Like I absolutely adore her, but I was like, oh, that was shocking. And then we get right into it. And I'm not joking, Nick said the most foul thing to me ever. I can give you what it was to a tune of it. And it was something like, oh, Bailey's here, Rachel's here. You guys both know what it's like to be like second best to Susie. And it was like so foul. It was literally so foul. It was like second best to Susie. And you know what it's like to like have to, and he said more to it. Okay. So there was actually a lot more layers that went into the comment. And I don't know if they cut it out because it was literally so foul and evil, or if they cut it out because thankfully, I was in Portugal doing it. I had horrible service. So my laptop like literally went like my Wi-Fi like went out.

Speaker 1:
[41:59] That's God trying to protect you.

Speaker 2:
[42:01] Literally, literally God was like, do not post that. And from that moment, like and normally I'm a very confident person. I'm not afraid to like stand up for myself, but I was also so taken aback by that like statement immediately that I was kind of like, oh, holy shit, I don't want to talk on this podcast the entire time. And I think even after the podcast, like he was like, she gave us no tea, she gave us nothing. And I'm like, why would I want to give you something when the whole time I walked in and you shitted on me and you made me seem like I'm a second class citizen to Susie, who's my friend? You know what I mean? Like I was like, and I was like, also I didn't even appreciate him like looping Rachel in with that either. Like I just thought that was really foul on both of us. And so many people all the time just say how his podcast is not good for women to go on. And I should have just like listened to them and not gone on the podcast. But in the moment, it's so hard to say like what you should have could have done. Like I really wanted to use it as like a stepping stone for Jeremy and I to be able to like, you know, clear up things and, and, you know, clear the air a little bit. And I was just not able to do that on that. And that was such a foul statement. I feel like to make like, I know he is very, a really vocal person, but I, it was horrible. My mom was listening, Jeremy was listening. They were both very upset with the statement and what was happening on that podcast. And so, yeah, I feel like it kind of scarred me. That was my first non-Bachelor podcast. And I was like, oh, I am not used to this. I think I've done like maybe two or three other ones and they've been great. And like, this is so nice to just be able to like talk and like go off each other. But that was, that was insane. That was literally so crazy. I've never had anyone speak to me like that, honestly, in person.

Speaker 1:
[43:50] I'm like in shock because we purposely did not discuss what happened on the show because I wanted to have like an authentic reaction here. And I didn't think it was going to be that bad. Also, like as an interviewer, how do you not know that you should be like making your guests feel comfortable and want to open up to you? And by starting off the very first sentence, by putting them down, like why would that, just like you said, why would I want to give you anything so you can cut it in your trailer and make it look like your episode is so juicy? Like, why do I want to give that to you now? Also, when he said, she gave us no tea, so were you like still on the call and he's complaining about it?

Speaker 2:
[44:28] No, I think at that point I had gotten off and they were doing like their wrap up summary.

Speaker 1:
[44:33] And you heard? Oh, you listened after.

Speaker 2:
[44:35] No, when I watched back the pod, when I listened back to the podcast and I was like, well, of course I gave you no tea. You talk shit about me, you talk shit about Jeremy. You tried to get me to talk shit about my friends. Like I was like, I don't want to do this. It was just, it was really bad. It was really, really bad.

Speaker 1:
[44:54] And it's weird that they would cut that out, but they don't cut out like the Austin Crowell thing or other things that he's done on the show that's been pretty controversial that he's gotten a lot of backlash for. So they do cut things out. They're just choosing to leave certain things.

Speaker 2:
[45:10] I wonder if it was cut out because like the service was, maybe they would have included that if like...

Speaker 1:
[45:16] They had your reaction to it. Yeah, because I was like... I literally was like, oh.

Speaker 2:
[45:24] And I just like tried to keep smiling. Yeah, it was really bad. And like, I know I should have prepared myself, I think a little bit better. And I think, I don't know if Rachel, we haven't talked about it, but I don't know if Rachel will throw it off about it. But it was just a lot in the moment. It's like, I can't speak on her, but...

Speaker 1:
[45:42] Sure, I mean, it's also different with Rachel because Nick's referring to something that happened to her years ago with a guy she's no longer with. You're with this man and Nick is making this comment about you, that's hurtful. How do you not know that that's hurtful to someone who... And like, so you weren't outwardly dating, you couldn't say you were dating Jeremy at the time. So he's talking to you as if...

Speaker 2:
[46:03] No, I couldn't say.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[47:25] Yeah, and I was like, and you know, he knows, like, you know, they get the, they get the screener, so he knows, like, what's happening. He knows if we're actually dating. He even made a comment. He was like, I'm sure Jeremy is, like, listening because he's in Portugal. And the reason is because, of course, Jeremy posted that he was in Portugal. And so I was in Portugal at the same time. But to be fair, Sean was also just in Portugal. So I had, like, seen Sean when he came into town and then Jeremy came to town. And then I had, like, he did two weeks. That was his first time meeting my family. And I was just like, I was so thrown off by the comment that I feel like I spent majority of the podcast slightly mute. Like, I just had to take time to think about what I said. And that's just not who I am at all. Like, I love talking. I'm an open book.

Speaker 1:
[48:10] I wanted to ask about Portugal because I remember that being called out. I remember you saying, like, other cast members are visiting you in Portugal, but obviously it was pretty clear that Jeremy was visiting for other reasons. Were you allowed to just be spotted with Jeremy? Like, because I know NDAs on the main show are a lot more strict.

Speaker 2:
[48:29] So here's the thing. I think if we would have won at the end, we would have been a lot more strict with how we were walking around. But truthfully, like, we kind of spent the entire time that summer just walking around New York, walking. In Atlanta, we didn't really walk around because a lot of people in Atlanta watch The Bachelor. So I was like, oh, when he came to visit, I was like, we cannot be walking around. We can't go to the park like people are going to say something. And there were times in New York where people would see us. And I would always like I wore a hat or sunglasses when we were out together. So they would maybe not notice it as much. In Portugal, I genuinely thought we weren't going to have any issues like zeroes.

Speaker 1:
[49:15] Oh, we can walk around. We can do whatever. Like we can have we're just going to.

Speaker 2:
[49:19] I was like, no one here in Portugal watches the show. Literally the first day we went out to Lisbon. We're like waiting in line for a cafe. We go to check in and I see this girl coming down the stairs and she's like, and she takes out her phone and takes a picture. And then I think maybe she said hi, but she was really sweet about it later. She like held onto the picture and she was like, I waited to post it. Like it was so nice of her to do that. And I know it was like, thank you. That was very sweet of you to wait and post. And we actually ended up going on a wine tour. And when we went to Porto, nobody was in our wine tour. There was one other group on our wine tour and I was like, ooh, I'm getting a weird feeling. Are they American? And sure enough, they were American. And we sat down and I'm so sus. Like Jeremy did not care the whole summer. He's like, whatever, we didn't win. Like, what are they gonna take from us? He was like, if we would have won money, we would have sat our butts inside like fully. But we're like, we didn't win. I'm like, who even cares about? I mean, honestly, like we're kind of irrelevant, but I was like, nobody cares.

Speaker 1:
[50:27] Like, we get to do what?

Speaker 2:
[50:28] And on the wine tour, this girl was like, she's like, oh, we took pictures with their whole group and did everything. And then she was like, oh, I don't want spoilers.

Speaker 1:
[50:37] And I was like, oh, this is one right here.

Speaker 2:
[50:40] I'm like, you don't even realize this is a spoiler, but she was really nice about it. She's like, I don't even have social media.

Speaker 1:
[50:47] I was like, oh, you're fine.

Speaker 2:
[50:49] So yeah, and then honestly, like right before the finale, we went to the US. Open.

Speaker 1:
[50:54] So you were like, not front row. If you, if photos got out of you guys, there was no, there was nothing on the line. You were concerned.

Speaker 2:
[51:01] I was scared. No, there's things on the line, but I was scared. So that's why usually majority of the time, like I would wear a hat. I would wear sunglasses. If we were walking around New York, there was a time me, Alex, Andrew and Jeremy were all in Chicago together. And Alex and I wore wigs.

Speaker 1:
[51:19] A bob?

Speaker 2:
[51:19] Andrew wore a wig too.

Speaker 1:
[51:21] Did you wear your bob wig?

Speaker 2:
[51:22] I wore like a long blonde wig. No, literally, I was like, where's that bob wig? I needed it. And then Alex wore like a kind of like curly bob, bob-ish wig with bangs. And then I wore a long blonde wig and we like went out and we were like dancing on to, it was really fun. But that's like the only time I really went incognito. And then we went to the US Open. I was like, well, this show, I was getting nervous. And then I was kind of like, whatever. At that time, I thought we were already going to, because they squeezed so much into the last episode, I was like, we were supposed to be kicked off the week before that. I was like, we should have been off the show at that point. So we kind of just like let it go and let it rain. But yeah, we were spotted at the US Open and we took pictures with people. And I just asked them to wait to post. I mean, that's so nice. Can you not post that for like three days? And I feel like everyone I met, like I've been very lucky. Every single person I've interacted with has been so sweet, so nice, so understanding. Somebody did post a TikTok video of us though, like walking on the street before the finale aired. And I didn't see it until later. And I honestly looked amazing. So I reposted it after the finale. Of course you did. I was like, this is a great video.

Speaker 1:
[52:32] I was like, oh my God, can I have this? I didn't even need to train you on how to film me. And you did so well.

Speaker 2:
[52:38] How did you get this, Queen? And I was like, oh, I am like a model. We were walking to go. I was going to meet his dad for the first time. And I was like, oh my God, this is such a cute video. So that was kind of fun. But yeah, I think a lot of couples were really staying inside. I will say we really didn't stay inside, but I had anxiety every time we went outside.

Speaker 1:
[52:59] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[52:59] Jeremy's like very chill. So he didn't care, but I cared.

Speaker 1:
[53:02] Yeah. Oh my gosh. So can you tell me about you guys today, post show, after reality TV? You guys are obviously like a rock solid couple. What's next for you guys?

Speaker 2:
[53:12] We're coming up on a year. So it's really crazy. I'm like, yes. I feel like it's such a weird concept to like meet the person that you love on TV. And I think if you would have told me that I would go in paradise and like find this amazing person, I honestly would be like, you're lying. Like, no, I mean, you go in paradise and you hope that it happens, but you don't actually, you know, I like to just like desensitize myself. I'm like, all right, you want it to happen, but it's not going to happen for you. And then I feel like that just made it like so much more, you know, sweet and amazing. And yeah, we're doing really good. We've just been going back and forth. We were in Atlanta for a few weeks. We're in New York for the month. My birthday is this month. So we're going on a birthday trip. He like planned a surprise birthday. It's a it was a surprise, but I hate surprises. And so he's like, I have to tell you because I know that you're not going to be okay with that. So yeah, he planned a trip for my birthday. We're going to like Carmel by the Sea. So it's like I've been talking about it for like literally the past six months. I'm like, look at this cute little town. And we're going to like do a whole tour. And I think that will be like really fun. And I'm so excited because like I've obviously been talking about it. I've honestly never had a partner like take an initiative to plan or do something for me. So I feel like that was also like really crazy. Because I was just like, oh my god, people that love you. Like if someone loves you, they will like put in the effort.

Speaker 1:
[54:41] If he wanted to, he will.

Speaker 2:
[54:43] If he wanted to, he would. So it's like, you know, and I was like, that's crazy. Because that's not something that I was expecting like in the slightest. Like I was like, I usually always plan all my birthdays and I do everything. And so, yeah, I felt like that was like a very like, you know, I was like, oh, this is it's all falling into piece. It's all part of like a bigger plan. And so, yeah, we're coming up on a year. We're doing good. We're in New York for the next like month. And then it's my birthday, our anniversary, and then his birthday. So we got a lot going on. We're probably going to go to Portra. Yeah, thank you. I'm celebrating the whole month of April is my birthday month, even though my birthday is at the end. And then I also celebrate throughout Torah season.

Speaker 1:
[55:19] I love you. My birthday will go until your entire birthday season.

Speaker 2:
[55:24] Yeah. So I take all of April and majority of Torah season. And then Jeremy gets the last like three or four days of Torah season.

Speaker 1:
[55:31] As he should. For his birthday.

Speaker 2:
[55:33] Yeah, as, you know, he doesn't need, he's very calm and chill. He's like, ah, he never really does. Honestly, I think Paradise on his birthday was the first time he's like really done something for his birthday. And I like planned like all of that. And that was really like, I really enjoyed doing that for him. It was really cute. So yeah, I don't know what I'm going to come up with for this year, but yeah, we've been really good. We've met each other's families. Like last night we had Passover with his family. So that was my first Passover. We did Hanukkah night one. We did Christmas with my family. So yeah, it honestly, it's so much better being in the real world together. Well, yeah, I loved our time at Paradise because like we really just got to spend so much time together, but it's really nice just like spending all day together. We have the dog in New York with us now. So it's just all honestly falling into pieces. It was like, it's all, all the pieces are falling into place.

Speaker 1:
[56:25] I'm so happy for you both. You called him your person earlier. Do you see like forever with him?

Speaker 2:
[56:33] Yeah, he is my person. Like it's really crazy. I'm like, oh, I can't believe this is like real. You know what I mean? So yeah, it's nice. Like I will say, I feel like just because our life is so public, we don't always like post with each other and everything just because like, I also feel like it's kind of nice to like keep things a little private. You know, of course, everyone always has something to say, but I think I can't imagine dating someone for this long if I didn't like really love him. You know, like that's, it's a lot of effort and work and we do a lot of traveling, we go on a lot of trips. Like we spend so much time together. We're literally together every day, all day, like every day. So, and it's really nice.

Speaker 1:
[57:12] I'm so happy for you. And with the posting thing too, that's a good strategy because the couples that go too hard, too fast, people then expect it. And then the second they slow down, people are like, why aren't you posting? Where have you been? What are you doing? If you're just like...

Speaker 2:
[57:26] What's going on? Are you guys breaking up?

Speaker 1:
[57:28] Sure, if you give the occasional update, like a regular person, then people are kind of like, oh, that's how they are. They post whatever. So yeah, that's what you wanna do, to not have people up your butt about it.

Speaker 2:
[57:39] Yeah, I think it's nice. And honestly, Jeremy's not really a big social media person, which I slightly enjoy just having done this for so long. So I think it's really nice because I feel like it helps me balance it out. And I can't imagine, I'm already trying to plan my own content. How can I plan content for the both of us? It's not gonna work. Too much. I think we're much happier being a little more private and just sharing the big moments that we have going on or when things are going on. And I think we're both also very private people in that sense. I'm definitely an open book and I'm very TMI online, but there's still so many moments where I'm like, no, it's nice to keep those just to us and what we're doing. So yeah, it's been really nice. I'm really happy and I can't believe that all this drama and everything brought us to this moment, but I'm really grateful that it all happened because I feel like it was all supposed to happen.

Speaker 1:
[58:33] Everything does happen for a reason. And also guys, just know every solo shot of Bailey, Jeremy's behind the camera.

Speaker 2:
[58:39] Jeremy's behind it.

Speaker 1:
[58:40] So there's your update right there. If you see a good shot of Bailey, you know. He's there.

Speaker 2:
[58:45] He's the one taking the picture. I mean, at this point, eight times out of 10, like I haven't shot actual content that he doesn't take. He shot a whole campaign for me the other day that I had, and we were like out in the cold. So he's putting in the work, guys. He's really going 100%.

Speaker 1:
[59:01] You've done really well with him, Bailey. You've trained him well. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:
[59:04] Yeah, yeah. He's on it.

Speaker 1:
[59:06] Where can the listeners keep up with you if you want to plug your social media or anything you want to plug?

Speaker 2:
[59:11] Yeah, you can follow me at BaileyTaylorBrown on Instagram and TikTok. And yeah, I'll have some exciting things coming this way soon, so.

Speaker 1:
[59:20] Ooh, wait, like what? You can't tell us.

Speaker 2:
[59:23] Yeah, well, I know I can. I had a podcast before I went on the show. So later, I'm going to launch that again. And I would like to... I always do stuff for pancreatic cancer. So I actually just became a national ambassador for PanCan, which is the Pancreatic Cancer Action Network. And I'm also an ambassador for Lusgarden, which is a private pancreatic cancer foundation that raises money for research. And then PanCan is kind of an all-encompassing, if you need help, if you need resources, it's a lot of things. And so, yeah, at the day after my birthday, we're gonna do a giant walk in New York for pancreatic cancer, where I'm raising money. And those that don't know, my dad passed away from pancreatic cancer in 2022. And so it's been really nice because Jeremy's been there for everything. He flew into Atlanta just to come to a cancer walk that I was talking in Atlanta that I do every year with my family. It's called Lust Garden. And so this month, we're gonna do the one in New York. And so that will be great. I'm also talking there. So yeah, I'm doing a lot of things that mean a lot to me, and that's really exciting. And it's great carrying on my dad's legacy. And there's so many people out there that are affected. But literally a girl stopped me on the street a month ago, and she was like, this sounds so crazy. She was like, my dad just passed away from paint-crowded cancer, and I like, Zoe was actually with me. We were walking, we like grabbed a bite to eat, and I was like literally broke down into tears. So I feel like it's important to like talk about those things, because there's so many people that, you know, I'm like, you can talk to me, I will, I will respond. I'm horrible at responding, but those messages I really do try, I really do try to respond to, because I also, it's hard when you don't have someone there to like recover from like something, the grief of like losing someone you love. But yeah, I have some exciting things that are coming out, some things that mean a lot to me, and yeah, I'm really excited. Yeah, the future, future's good.

Speaker 1:
[61:15] The future's bright for Bailey Taylor Brown.

Speaker 2:
[61:17] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[61:18] I love the three names. It's so cute. It's gonna be Taylor, Frankie, Paul. In the best way.

Speaker 2:
[61:23] Yeah, that's a whole other thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, some things, but yeah.

Speaker 1:
[61:27] The name, just the cute, like the cuteness of the name. We'll keep an eye out for what's to come with you. Thank you so much for being so open and for your time today, and I'll be in touch. It's so nice meeting you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2:
[61:39] I'm excited to see where this podcast goes.

Speaker 1:
[61:41] Oh, yeah. So my new solo adventure. If you guys aren't subscribed, make sure to subscribe to Shes All Bach. You could also follow me at Shes All Bach on any social media platform if you feel like it. Thank you so much, Bailey. I'll be in touch when this goes live. Yay.

Speaker 2:
[61:54] Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[61:54] Bye.