title #3323 RHORI S1E04: Pizza Chip on the Shoulder

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pubDate Mon, 20 Apr 2026 21:44:22 GMT

author Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam

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Speaker 1:
[00:21] Hello, and welcome to Watch for Crapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is none other than Ronnie Karam.

Speaker 2:
[00:33] Hi Ronnie, how are ya? you, how dare you, how dare you? Welcome to Rhode Island, bitch. Yeah, snake and a troll. I don't like snakes and trolls.

Speaker 1:
[00:42] You know what, I love you.

Speaker 2:
[00:43] I love you.

Speaker 1:
[00:44] He has a pizza chip.

Speaker 2:
[00:45] Have a pizza chip.

Speaker 3:
[00:47] The pizza chip. I can't wait to get to the pizza chip portion of this.

Speaker 1:
[00:51] I'm so excited. Really excited about this pizza chip situation. Welcome, everyone, to Watch What Crappens. We are here today to talk Real Housewives of Rhode Island. And we have our beautiful Patreon that you should come join us for. patreon.com/watch What Crappens. We have bonus episodes, a free newsletter that just went up. We have ad free listening. It's just like anything you could literally ever want in life. It's all there. All the answers to all your questions in life are just on our Patreon. So come join. Also, if you listen to this in time, we have Crappy Hour Tonight. That's at 5.30 on the West Coast. And every Monday, we do Amazon Live. We go on at 1.30 and we talk about cool things that we bought recently that we want to recommend to you. So you should really come listen because we have a lot of fun on there hawking different wares. That's a real delight. That is it. Let's talk about Rhode Island. I love this episode, actually. I haven't been quite at the same level of enthusiasm as a lot of people on Rhode Island have been. That's not a negative. I've been really enjoying it, but people have been like, oh my God, this show is amazing. But for me, it's been a little bit more of a slow burn, but I feel like the show is really starting to come together. I'm feeling like the cast is starting to gel nicely, and I was just cracking up through so much of this. So I was a fan, I was a fan. What did you think?

Speaker 3:
[02:23] I think the aunties need the show. The aunties need to be on the show. That's the show for me. Every time they're on, I'm like, this is it. This is the show. I like the show. I think it's pretty good. I'm still very confused about what's going on through a lot of it, but I've started to Google, and then I've realized I'm confused because they're all in the mafia, and that's why they're not able to talk about anything. So that made it more fun. I mean, I kind of knew there were mafia rumors, but I didn't realize it was like the cast. The cast is, it's like Mob Wives. It's like a new Mob Wives, which I kind of like.

Speaker 1:
[02:57] Yeah, this is like the first time I've been scared to recap a show, because I'm like, if I say the wrong thing about Dino, I could literally get killed. Well, like it's, it's like, it might happen. It might, it's, if I get, if I get murdered, you guys just know, you guys know where to look. Okay.

Speaker 3:
[03:13] I've always had a feeling I'm going to get taken out by someone I'm talking shit about on, on this podcast. And I would much prefer it to be someone like Kyle Richards, you know, like just make someone that crazy that they finally kill you or whatever. So I wouldn't be psyched if it was Dino, but I would figure, I mean, I knew this was coming. Like when I saw that gun being pointed at me, I'd be like, oh God, really? In a Sabaro?

Speaker 1:
[03:37] I know. You know, God.

Speaker 3:
[03:39] Sound going.

Speaker 1:
[03:40] I would, you know, if I'm with you, like if, if I'm going to get murdered by someone that I talk about in one of these shows, I want it to be high profile. I want it to be like, like a rageful Tamra judge, you know, headlines for a year. But if it's Dino, it'll be like an oddly enough, oddly enough, a local Rhode Island man killed a podcaster. I'm like, oh, I don't want to be in the audience.

Speaker 3:
[04:04] Yeah, I want a bigger story. Yeah, totally. I want a much bigger story. So we start with Alicia. She's with her husband, Bill, at Pizza Mama.

Speaker 2:
[04:14] And she's like, go to the beach. So I want to get some pizza.

Speaker 3:
[04:17] So I say, you know, I think we should talk about maybe doing like red t-shirts, black t-shirts, you know, right? Cause like white gets dirty, right girls? And the girls behind the red shirt are like, oh yeah. Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[04:27] Yeah, white gets dirty so easily.

Speaker 3:
[04:29] You're so smart, Alicia. You deserve half of this business.

Speaker 1:
[04:32] Yeah. This was like her sharp tank moment when they're like, look at her. Look at her innovations.

Speaker 3:
[04:38] This is what I give to my husband's business. White shirts get dirty.

Speaker 1:
[04:43] But that being said, I will always remember, dare I invoke this? I was a big apprentice fan back in the day. And I remember one time they had a challenge, they did like a hotel challenge and they like, they had to like redesign chef uniforms. And I remember Ivanka Trump one time as the, you know, judicious consultant to her father was like, why did you change, why did you decide not to use white as the fabric? Because the reason why we use white for these sort of things is that they bleach really easily. And so you can clean them and get the stains out, like a breeze. And I remember at that time thinking, that Ivanka Trump is so smart. Like, I can't believe Ivanka thought of that. It's amazing. She is so bright. Meanwhile, there's probably a producer in your same, Ivanka, could you please bring up this point? And telling her what to say. But either way, I've always remembered Ivanka Trump saying that with these sort of things, white is actually the better fabric because you can bleach it and clean it very easily.

Speaker 3:
[05:39] And isn't that crazy? And then all these years later, her father is still saying, white is better, white is better. Every second he gets a chance.

Speaker 1:
[05:46] He really took it to heart.

Speaker 3:
[05:48] He really did. Yeah, I remember those days back when you had like Ivanka posters in your room and stuff.

Speaker 1:
[05:53] I loved Ivanka back then.

Speaker 3:
[05:55] You loved her.

Speaker 1:
[05:55] Before I knew, before I knew what was gonna happen.

Speaker 3:
[05:58] That was right when car wrapping came out and you had your Toyota wrapped with like an Ivanka face.

Speaker 1:
[06:03] Number one Ivanka fan. But the irony though is that like, we've seen plenty of chefs wearing.

Speaker 3:
[06:10] Used to be like, hey, I made some cookies. Ivanka cookie? I'm like, okay. All right. It's getting to be a little bit much, Ben. Reel it in.

Speaker 1:
[06:19] It was too much. Too much. Yeah, but anyway, I'm sorry to evoke Ivanka, but let's be honest. We know where Alicia voted, so she's probably very happy about this. So anyway, she's innovating at the Pizza Mama. And then we go to Rula's house, Rula. Rula's putting out a chair in the backyard. She's like, it's really fun watching you guys work. And it's just talking to her kids, cause the kids are like asking for some money. And one of the kids-

Speaker 2:
[06:48] Yeah, like, you owe me 50 bucks for doing work, mama. You owe me 50 bucks.

Speaker 3:
[06:55] So, okay.

Speaker 1:
[06:56] Yeah. I was gonna say one kid is like, I get 92, 2,000,000, 100 dollars, you know, which is considered a real monetary amount on this show, I think. Well, what can you do? She deserves 90,000, 2,000,000, and 45 dollars. That's a real number.

Speaker 3:
[07:16] Bill's like, oh yeah, get this cleaned up. My mistress is coming over later to take a picture by that banister. Gonna dust it. We'll talk about this in Crappy Hour, but that shit was crazy. So after the episode last week, it came out that the mistress posted a picture on her Instagram of herself at Rula's house in front of the banister with the same neighbor in back. So it was very obviously her house. Like she did it on purpose to out herself as the mistress. And then Bill sued her because apparently he had her sign an NDA when he started fucking her. I mean, that is a slime ball. I mean, if your husband is putting that much thought into having an affair, that's crazy. He's like, all right, I'm going to fuck you to us, but first I signed this NDA. So he's suing her for breaking the NDA. Stick around, very classy guy. Super classy.

Speaker 1:
[08:04] This guy is garbage. Someone, there was no one more appropriate to put their foot in their mouth. Then a podiatrist, ba-boom, shh. Give me another de Brogher and Charlotte. There we go.

Speaker 3:
[08:16] Let's go to Joellen's house. Joellen is packing. She's going for a work trip. She's like, Gare, I'm going to need help bringing my suitcase down. I'm just trying to think of everything I need because I'm a little nervous about this trip. I love working. I love working. I'm going to Chicago. It's my mid-year sales. Honestly, when I'm on my work trips, it's not that relaxing. Like it's nonstop, back to back. I like working. I could stay at home. You know, choice is not for me. I can go to sleep with dishes in the sink. There, I said it. I said it.

Speaker 1:
[08:45] It's like, okay. It was like a whirlwind Joellen monologue about chores. And we're out of the scene already. And now we go to Liz's house. Liz is wearing some crazy bathing suit top thing or whatever, where it's like, it just was like, comes in in the, it's like a, it's like a weird, like, it's like an itch Smith's of fabric across her stomach.

Speaker 3:
[09:05] Liz's fashion is amazing on this show. It's crazy. It's so tacky. It's her, the fashion ones to just laugh at every week are her and Rosie. Rosie looks insane. I don't even know what the fuck she's wearing. But Liz, like in one, she has a snake and it's not just like a diamond snake. It's like a huge stuffed diamond snake that's like coming off of her shirt and about to eat her face. Then she's wearing one, the flowery dress that she wears, looks like one of those things when you get on a roller coaster and you pull down the bars. And it's like, it's like that, but it's all flowers. I mean, she, they dress so crazy on this show. It cracks me up.

Speaker 1:
[09:40] Rosie looks like someone who was on a shipwreck and washed up on a remote island and the locals who saved her, she had to, she had to tell them that she was a rhythmic gymnast in order for them not to persecute her. And so then they were so excited that they sewed her outfits for their local rhythmic gymnastics competitions. And she has to just go on with the, with the ruse. Like that's what I think her, her fashion style looks like.

Speaker 3:
[10:04] And she debuted a new one tonight that was all like different colored glass, like sea glass or something like, I mean, it's crazy, crazy looking.

Speaker 1:
[10:13] It's going off the side of her arm. It doesn't make it. And the thing is this, like her vibe is kind of like, that's stupid. Why would you do that? That's stupid. She's stupid. Look at those old people, weird people. That's stupid. So you would think she would look at some of these fashions, be like, that's stupid. Why would I wear that? But instead, I think she sees like a pink feather and is like, I want it, put it all around my breast.

Speaker 3:
[10:35] That's me, that pink feather, put it on me. Get it on, get a glue gun, get a glue gun over here. So Liz, Dolores is coming to Liz's house and Liz says, hello, what's your sight for sore eyes? Take your sight for sore eyes. We have the same eyes.

Speaker 2:
[10:50] The same eyes.

Speaker 1:
[10:51] Sore, sore.

Speaker 2:
[10:52] Yeah, hey you waltz, I'm on Jerry's bananas.

Speaker 1:
[10:55] And we see there's this enormous bowl of bananas. Like this looks like a trophy that Donkey Kong would win. And so we see it and Dolores goes, does he eat that many bananas?

Speaker 2:
[11:05] No, he ordered six bananas yesterday to be delivered and that's what came.

Speaker 1:
[11:10] So we literally went on to Instacart and hit six on the bananas, thinking he would get six individual bananas and got six bundles of bananas.

Speaker 3:
[11:19] When you ask a man to do a woman's job, am I right? I asked my guy to help me flip a house once, not a pebble tile, not one pebble tile in the whole place.

Speaker 2:
[11:32] Let's do a little sage ceremony.

Speaker 1:
[11:34] So they're gonna do a sage ceremony to sage out the fighting. And at some point in the middle of this, I just want to point out, Liz makes a little ice coffee thing. She clearly poured some Trader Joe's ice coffee over some ice in a glass, and she hands it to Dolores. And Dolores goes, this is beautiful, thank you.

Speaker 4:
[11:52] I just cracked up.

Speaker 1:
[11:54] It was like some average milky looking beverage. This is beautiful. Thank you so much. You're absolutely beautiful. I'll never betray you.

Speaker 2:
[12:04] Well, you know, I gotta seize the place because Joellen got down my throat here the other night. We've gotta take care of them.

Speaker 3:
[12:14] And so we see a flashback to Joellen being like, oh, you don't wanna admit it? You don't wanna admit it? And we're saying, he's not having an affair, okay? And now we're back. And Dolores is saying, well, you know, she's hanging on her husband with every last thing she has. She loves him. And here comes Joellen over here. Have you met my husband? I don't think you have.

Speaker 2:
[12:32] Hi.

Speaker 3:
[12:32] I just felt so bad for her, you know? And then I got a little bit upset.

Speaker 2:
[12:38] Yeah, but at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing for me. And if it's over, I don't know why she's white knuckling so much. And Liz tells us, Woola is the boss at work. However, I don't know how much she is as a wife, but the constant denial of running away from or from it or pointing the finger somewhere else, it's only going to make it faster more. So Liz is like, you know, I played the latter part of the night over and over in my head, and I'm disgusted by my reaction, disgusted by myself. I came across as a better drunken witch. That's how I came across.

Speaker 3:
[13:21] That was a menopause moment. That's what we call a menopause moment.

Speaker 2:
[13:25] Yeah, yeah, a combination of that, and I drank too much, I just lost my shit. Plus all these fucking bananas in the house. How could you even keep a sitting mind? You know what I'm saying? Cut to Liz being like, you fake ass bitch. Fuck you, Kelsey, fuck off Kelsey, all right? You know, because of Kelsey, I felt like she cosigned on a lie to avoid her own issues with this person that she didn't want out, because I didn't know if it was dating, but it was hooking up. But Kelsey and Dino, for a brief moment, was a romantic relationship. Not what I had, okay? Radically different from what I had, but like, you know, people made it seem like we had some type of torrid affair.

Speaker 3:
[14:11] And then we see a flashback to this non-torrid affair.

Speaker 2:
[14:13] She's like, I just wanna go down to the seawall with Jerry and Dino. That's it, I gotta go to the seawall. You're starting this shit with me but I wanna go to the seawall?

Speaker 1:
[14:25] But I think because of the ongoing, you know what?

Speaker 3:
[14:29] Ongoing?

Speaker 2:
[14:30] What's this ongoing? Seawall. It's just a fucking seawall. You can't constantly, you can't go to seawall with your husband who only comes around three days a year. The guy you spend the rest of your time with, you can't do that no more. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. Self-account, see, speaking of the ongoing, it was nothing. And I hate the word ongoing, as you might have noticed. And something that she knew truly affected me. It was triggering to me. It was triggering. That's that. Here you go. Here's your iced coffee. And I also made a fruit salad.

Speaker 1:
[15:07] Oh yeah. Oh, this is beautiful. This is beautiful.

Speaker 2:
[15:09] You know what?

Speaker 1:
[15:10] This is almost as good as riding in the same car with someone. My loyalty for life is what you have.

Speaker 3:
[15:16] Do you still trust, do you still trust Kelsey?

Speaker 2:
[15:19] She's like, that might take a minute, Delores. That might take a minute because you know what?

Speaker 3:
[15:24] It's not every day you have some bitch come up to you and say ongoing.

Speaker 2:
[15:29] It is one of the most vile words in the English language, ongoing. Okay? Terrible. I hate the C word.

Speaker 3:
[15:41] Cup fitness?

Speaker 2:
[15:42] Ongoing. I hate it.

Speaker 4:
[15:45] Horrible word.

Speaker 2:
[15:46] It's a C word because you only say it by the C. Anyway.

Speaker 3:
[15:50] You only say it when you're on your way to the sea wall.

Speaker 2:
[15:57] Well, you know what?

Speaker 1:
[15:58] Was it handled wrong? Yes. You owe an apology. Yes, you do. And she has to decide about moving on and you want to move on from this fruit salad, absolutely delicious, especially with this iced coffee.

Speaker 2:
[16:08] It's like, I feel like she owes me one too, though. I feel like she owes me one too.

Speaker 1:
[16:13] Liz does this thing when she's pissed, she smiles really broadly. And later on in the episode, she's questioning why people are intimidated by her. It's like, because you have the scariest smile on Bravo, because the more you smile, the more we'd see how furious you are at someone. It's a terrifying thing when someone is really angry, but they smile at you when they're angry. It's a really, really scary thing.

Speaker 3:
[16:40] Yeah, she's got that down for sure. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. So now we go with Rosie and Alicia at the beach, and they're like, oh my God, you're so cute.

Speaker 2:
[16:53] Are we going to Miami? And we're like, why are you so cute?

Speaker 3:
[16:56] She's like, oh my God, we're going to the beach, and I know you only go to your country club. We know Alicia. She's like, yeah, I didn't dress for the beach because I only go to my country club. We just, I just said that. Yeah, because there's a beach club there.

Speaker 2:
[17:08] It's amazing.

Speaker 3:
[17:09] It's a beach club, it's the only place I go.

Speaker 1:
[17:11] Ashley's like, guys, this is my favorite beach. It's the only beach in Rhode Island where you cannot hear my husband prepare a coffee for someone.

Speaker 2:
[17:20] Joyce, we got a cappuccino ready, dammit.

Speaker 3:
[17:25] All right, you guys go first because I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. It's like a beach.

Speaker 2:
[17:29] I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[17:29] It's like sand to stairs. It's not like this at the country club.

Speaker 1:
[17:32] It's not like it.

Speaker 3:
[17:33] It's different.

Speaker 1:
[17:35] Ashley goes, see, I take my kids here because look, no riptide.

Speaker 3:
[17:38] It's like no undercurrent.

Speaker 1:
[17:39] There's also no charisma. It's like this dark brown sand. And it's like going to the lake. It's like a sad lake, but it's a beach form. And they're all just totally unimpressed. It's also like a public beach that's full of normal people.

Speaker 2:
[17:55] So of course, Alicia's like, oh my God, what about, I hope they didn't bring any pizza chips because this is disgusting, all those people over there.

Speaker 3:
[18:02] These girls, they seem a bit more like a country club bunch. Like they're showing up with their designer bags and stuff. They look like Malibu Barbie and me, Ashley. Like I look like a mom that maybe like tried a little bit today. Wacky new girl, The Housewives.

Speaker 1:
[18:21] This is your favorite beach? What the fuck? I belong to a beautiful beach club.

Speaker 2:
[18:25] Please come with me. Carry a chair, a purse and then snacks.

Speaker 1:
[18:30] It's like too much, too much to do.

Speaker 2:
[18:31] I don't know. I'd rather be a pizza mama.

Speaker 3:
[18:34] They go down the set up on the sand, but they set themselves up facing away from the water, which is hilarious.

Speaker 1:
[18:41] They probably have to, like they can't have the camera people like in the water because it's probably a liability with the equipment, but it is hilarious that they're facing away from the beach. And I guess it's also more cinematic to be able to see the ocean.

Speaker 3:
[18:53] Yeah, like they go to the beach and then sit away from the water. Okay, listen, we've already got one Housewives that's primarily focused on scenes taking place in parking lots, and you're not Real Housewives of Salt Lake City level yet.

Speaker 1:
[19:05] Yes, and Bravo's really trying to push the maritime element of the show, so they're like, we must have that ocean in the background, which honestly, I don't mind. It is really a very maritime show. Like at Liz's house, you just see the ocean just in the background the entire time. Like this is like a very, there's something like very pleasant about how this show looks. Everything's because of lighthouses and waves and seagulls and mafia. It's just lovely.

Speaker 3:
[19:33] But it's all very like cheddar biscuits. Like it's very seafood restaurant, if that makes any sense. Like even this, like, oh my God, look at us. What the beat, this is the most gorgeous beach in town. And it's like a parking lot with a puddle.

Speaker 2:
[19:46] Like, wow, isn't this amazing?

Speaker 1:
[19:48] This, I mean, let's face it, Real Housewives of Rhode Island is for the seafood lover in you.

Speaker 3:
[19:54] Yep. So guess what, guess what, guys, guess what, Alicia here. I brought pizza chips. There, I said it, you know? And she's like, I've never even heard of a pizza chip. What is that? Do you make it with the steamer? No, no, my grandfather, he was the first one to do it here. Like he had a bakery called Superior Bakery because it was pretty good. And you know what? Like pizza chips are like, it's red sauce. It's not actual cheese. It's not like regular pizza, but it's lighter. You know, it's lighter. People like bring it to the beach. I love pizza chips.

Speaker 1:
[20:21] I love Alicia. Her distinguishing feature is that there's no cheese. She's like, yeah, the pizza chips, it's just red. There's no cheese. There's no cheese on this pizza. It's just red sauce. Like you don't have to tell me like, oh, but there's no cheese. You have to tell me, oh, but it's not a chip. Because it's like a big like round of bread. It looks like a, I don't remember, but it's like a super thick pita. Yeah, like a pita or a bialli that's covered with like a tomato sauce that's been cooked down. So it almost looks like a tomato paste. I don't understand why they're called chips.

Speaker 3:
[20:56] That shit looks nasty. And they're not chips and they're not pizza. They're neither of those.

Speaker 1:
[21:02] I agree.

Speaker 3:
[21:03] Why are you calling them pizza chips?

Speaker 1:
[21:05] I want one so badly. Cause I, of course, you know, I stopped the show and then spent 15 minutes online looking at pizza chips. They can also be called pizza, not slits, pizza strips. They can also be called pizza strips if they have a sort of long shape. And everyone online is like, oh my God, these are so good. The ratio of how they look to how they taste is like, there's the farthest gap than any other food. Like they look so stupid and they taste so good. So now I desperately want a pizza chip. And also I'm like sad that we never had a Top Chef Rhode Island because you know there would have been like a Padma challenge. Chefs, since we're here in Rhode Island, please welcome my dear friend, the president of Rhode Island to talk about a local delicacy called the pizza chip. Now, one thing you may not know about these, yes, the residents do like to eat them, but they're also great for throwing at Gail's face. Let's all do it together.

Speaker 3:
[22:03] In Los Angeles, pizza chips, thin crispy oven baked dough topped with marinara and mozzarella, okay, you've already got it wrong, Google. So, whatever. So Ashley, so Alicia's like, in the summer, go to the beach as a kid, you have cheese in the sun. It's good to sit there. You know what I mean? You just don't, you don't want cheese sitting in the sun. No one wants melted cheese on a pizza. Like, no one wants that.

Speaker 1:
[22:28] The cheese just sitting there. I mean, if you're bringing pizza to the beach, I mean, I just feel like the pizza won't last long enough to be crappy in the sun, right? I would just eat all the pizza.

Speaker 3:
[22:39] People would eat it, but you know what will last? Pizza chips, guaranteed chips. So Ashley's like, I mean, they think it's great, but I'm like, who wears the cheese on my pizza? You know, because like, who wants a pizza without cheese?

Speaker 1:
[22:53] It's like a house off without a personality, Ashley. So Rosie is like, you guys, Rosie says this sentence that like, you can barely understand because of her accent and maybe she has a pizza chip in her mouth. She's like, you guys, I want to invite you all.

Speaker 2:
[23:05] You, me and Ashley, we're going on rail explorers.

Speaker 1:
[23:08] I was like, what'd she say?

Speaker 2:
[23:08] Rail explorers. What?

Speaker 1:
[23:11] Rail explorers. But they all just said what she meant. They're like, oh, so cute.

Speaker 2:
[23:15] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[23:16] And then we see a case called rail explorers.

Speaker 3:
[23:20] We're going to do that. And then we're going to have a bonfire. And we're really, we're going to do everything. You guys explore rails, go on a bonfire. Don't worry. We're going to go from one public park to another public park. Basically is what I'm saying this episode.

Speaker 1:
[23:34] Rail explorers is also what Jax Taylor used to call his group of friends. So Rosie is like, I love rail explorers. I'm kind of obsessed with it. I think it's such a fun activity. Also the views are amazing and it's such a beautiful, it's so beautiful. I don't know, ocean scape, seascape, but that's okay. Well, like whatever you call it, but I think everybody will have fun doing something active. Like maybe we won't fight each other, you know? It'll be great.

Speaker 3:
[24:05] All right, all right. We said Real Explosive five times. Is that how many times we had to say it? Okay, let's talk now. Let's talk now. Did you have a pizza chip? Okay, let's talk about the party. Like I've been dying. I've been waiting. I've been dying. I've been waiting. Dying, waiting.

Speaker 1:
[24:17] My God, I know. Hi, Ashley here. I need some clarification. Why is Rula mad at Joellen?

Speaker 3:
[24:24] Well, Rula feels like she's getting involved in her marriage. Wait, what were you going to say?

Speaker 1:
[24:29] Ashley, pay attention to your own show. How do you not know why Rula is mad at Joellen?

Speaker 3:
[24:32] It's like the biggest reason ever. Everybody knows. Ashley's like, I don't even these women are so crazy. I don't even know what their Instagram handles are.

Speaker 1:
[24:41] Yeah, I think Ashley's really trying to be the the voice of the people like, aren't these people crazy? But instead, she's just coming off like a twit. So Rosie is like, well, Rula feels like she's getting involved in her marriage.

Speaker 2:
[24:56] It's like, you know, I never knew this until recently.

Speaker 1:
[24:58] You know what? Rula met Brian while he was married to my Spanish teacher. Like what? It's like, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[25:04] This is so funny. I love Alicia. No one can make me hate her. Rula met Brian while he was married to my Spanish teacher.

Speaker 1:
[25:14] So he's a cheater basically.

Speaker 2:
[25:16] Yeah, but he doesn't look like a cheater.

Speaker 1:
[25:18] Let's be honest. Like he literally looks like a cheater. You look at him, you say that man is cheating on his wife.

Speaker 4:
[25:24] Yeah, he doesn't look like a cheater.

Speaker 3:
[25:26] He's just so hot. Only ugly people cheat. Oh, Ashley, you are in.

Speaker 1:
[25:31] He's not very hot.

Speaker 3:
[25:32] Oh, okay. That makes more sense. I was going to say you're in for a surprise. Your husband who's at his coffee bar, Audrey's at midnight checking the ice machine. So Alicia says, well, I don't know if it's true, but like Rula's husband cheated on his first wife, my Spanish teacher, with Rula. I hope that's not true. Cause like, I really did love my Spanish teacher.

Speaker 1:
[25:56] Alicia's like, Alex had to go to her high school reunion and like reunite with her Spanish teacher. And she's like, I don't know if I can do that anymore. So Rosie, it just, I just feel so bad for her. So Rosie says, okay, enough about Rula and her weirdo husband. Me and Alicia have been dying to know what happened on Saturday. So Ashley's like, is Liz not here for a reason? And Rosie goes, yeah, I've been waiting for this all day because I didn't want to attack you with it. But I'm about to climax, by the way. Now it's me, Alicia talking.

Speaker 2:
[26:29] I'm about to climax. I need to know what happened. Come on, tell me what happened.

Speaker 3:
[26:33] So Kelsey says, you know, I just said, how are you doing? And she says, I want a moment with Dino and my husband. And I said, I didn't want that because of Dino's ongoing. And before I even stopped, she fucking booked it, you know? And she said, ongoing, ongoing, nothing ongoing, seawall, seawall ongoing. And then she ran upstairs. So I followed her. Cause what else do you do? What I meant by ongoing was that this room was about them having an affair. And I thought she should distance herself from him because people are talking about us spreading lies and things that aren't necessarily true. So, geez, sorry.

Speaker 1:
[27:07] Do you think on some level, Kelsey was also saying, he's like a connected guy and you're on TV now, and maybe you shouldn't be seen with him on TV.

Speaker 3:
[27:15] It sounds like what Kelsey says to her later when they have the conversation is, I was with this guy, I did have an affair with this guy, and he was abusive, and he's a fucking killer in the mafia. So watch out is what it sounded like she's saying later.

Speaker 2:
[27:30] And Liz is like, okay, well, you're allowed to have your experiences, and I'm allowed to have my experiences. And that's just that.

Speaker 4:
[27:39] Like, are you not hearing me?

Speaker 1:
[27:41] Yeah, with the, yeah. So, Rosie's like, so what was she saying upstairs? What was she saying? And Kelsey's like, oh, you know, she's saying, fuck you, you're fake.

Speaker 2:
[27:52] What? What did she say?

Speaker 1:
[27:53] She's like, yeah, she probably said it 86 million times. In my brain, I'm like, God, did I just like dead myself with the rest of my relationship with Liz? So Kelsey's like, I mean, you just don't want to be under her wrath.

Speaker 3:
[28:05] Yeah, but you know what? She's been like that her whole life though. Like the people that we hung out with and grew up with, they weren't like regular, happy, go lucky. We're from the same cut. We wore the same type of cloth. Does that make sense? How do we say it? You're cut from the same cloth? Yeah, we're cut from the same cloth. I come off softer, happier, but get me behind a wheel and walk in front of my car. But we do walk on eggshells around her. It's true, me including, because she's no bullshit. I even get scared of her and I don't get scared of anybody, except people who crosswalks because they'll sue you.

Speaker 1:
[28:41] I don't like doing that, no bridges for me, I will not. I couldn't even watch the bridges of Madison County. I was like, what if there's women there? I don't want to run over someone else in the movies. Then we go to Joellen's house, but Joellen is not there. Jen, her sister is there doing laundry for Gary because he's not able to fold clothing.

Speaker 3:
[28:59] And he's been gone one day and he already has a full, I mean, I guess they have kids and stuff, but still. And this sister is fucking your husband, by the way. She's like, Oh, hi, just here taking care of your kids and doing your husband's laundry. Hope you're having fun on your work trip, loser. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:17] And so they have like this whole banter, you know, and Joellen's like, I really appreciate that Jen comes over when I'm out of town to help out with my kids. And she's like, Gary, found a pair of your underwear.

Speaker 3:
[29:31] Ted Baker. How'd they smell? They tasted great. Oh God, she perpetuates this fun little game of flirting with my husband, but I don't take offense. I mean, I know there's nothing going on. She loves Gary so much. As a brother, as a friend, they've never had sex. Like maybe he touched her boobs in high school. You know, keeping the family kind of thing. Yeah, cause he dated her first. So I think she's already tasted this guy.

Speaker 1:
[29:58] Yeah. So Gary's like, yeah, it's super nice that you came to help out when she's not here though. Cause like that takes a huge load off my shoulders of doing the nothing that I do.

Speaker 3:
[30:08] Sorry, did I say shoulders? I meant nuts.

Speaker 2:
[30:11] Hey. Hey.

Speaker 3:
[30:15] So she's like, oh my God, don't we have a happy marriage? And the sister's like, I'm fucking your husband. Yeah, she's like, oh, go ahead.

Speaker 1:
[30:23] I'm about to say we see like a flashback of the Minnesota and Jen's like, if I'm going to be 45 years old and I don't have kids yet, I'm just going to use Gary's. And then he like winks at her.

Speaker 3:
[30:32] She's like, yeah, you're not using my husband's sperm for kids, okay? She's like, can Gary give me sperm? I said, he's not giving you a sperm. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you?

Speaker 1:
[30:42] Okay, maybe a few sperms. You know, he, she can have a few sperms, but you know, he, she's not going to be the one to jerk them off to get the sperms out of it. I mean, don't you, she could put a finger in, she could put a finger in, I'll do the rest. That's it. That's all she gets.

Speaker 3:
[30:53] Finger. So, yeah, she calls and they have this nice scene of like, oh my God, it's the kids. And Joellen goes, wow, she's really helping out a lot around there, huh? And goes, yeah, laundry, cleaning, cooking, bowl emptying. What didn't I do? What didn't I do? Am I right, Gare?

Speaker 1:
[31:12] My relationship with Jen, as we were growing up, like we were like not close, we would fight a lot. And then she would like lock me at the house in a towel. And then Jen and I got close right after my father passed away and it was like 2010. And then like after then she would like let me back in the house with a towel. And like we became friends. So like I'm thankful and I'm appreciative of her. And I finally like understand what a best friend or sister is, you know, cause as the best friend, it's my favorite thing to do is to dangle the man that got away from her in front of a face, knowing that she can never have him again. So anyway, we're really close now.

Speaker 3:
[31:40] Okay. Well, I'd love you sister have a safe flight. I'm fucking your husband. Okay. You're hilarious. You're hilarious. Okay. Put your top back on. Put your top.

Speaker 2:
[31:48] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[31:48] Call me back. Call me back.

Speaker 2:
[31:52] Bye.

Speaker 1:
[31:53] So now we go to Alicia's and she's fixing pool furniture. She's like, Oh God, this is dirty. And that's disgusting over there. Oh God, that's awful. That's disgusting. And then in come the aunties, Sandra first. And she's like, Alicia, we're here.

Speaker 2:
[32:07] Where is she? Where's that Alicia?

Speaker 1:
[32:08] And then in comes Sharon. Oh God. I hope you guys are hungry because there's lots of food. You thought you had a lot of pizza chips before. Guess what? Got a stack of them. This one's got marinara on it. That one, oh wait, but this batch here, this also has got marinara. What about your batch over there?

Speaker 2:
[32:24] Mine got marinara on them. Hey, you got a straw.

Speaker 3:
[32:28] I want to drink some marinara. All right? And Alicia's like, wow, you know, spending time with my family is like, da da da da da da. You know, there's like so much going on.

Speaker 2:
[32:36] You can't.

Speaker 3:
[32:36] It's like overwhelming. My grandpa, my grandfather, he opened up Superior Bakery. It was great. Everybody loved it. We know Alicia, for sake. Is this all Alicia says? She said this 30 times.

Speaker 1:
[32:47] Superior Bakery.

Speaker 3:
[32:48] Superior Bakery. Yeah, it was good. And then he has some pizza restaurants. He was well known all over Rhode Island. My aunts, they like work with my grandfather. They make the dough behind the, you know, everyone in Cranston would make fun of the Cicerone Girls because they weren't really good at working. But you know, my grandfather was always stressed out yelling at him, but he was just dishing out that money. I love that all these aunts were like dough makers and they could never do it right. I know.

Speaker 1:
[33:11] Hey, Ma, you're going to go swim in? She's like, Oh no, Alicia, we're too old for that. I mean, Bill would end up vomiting.

Speaker 2:
[33:16] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[33:17] So then Billy comes in and is like, Hey, everyone. Oh wow. This is like food for like 75 people. You girls are all on diets and never even eat.

Speaker 2:
[33:23] She's like, Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1:
[33:24] So then Liz comes over and I was like, Liz. She's like the norm of this family.

Speaker 2:
[33:29] Liz. Alicia's family, I love them. They're fun to be around, you know, they're all right. My sister and Alicia's mom, they're best friends. And when we first met, I was like six or eight years old. I don't know, but I like, oh good. I like them. I'm so happy. I love it here. You know what? I love being here with you ladies because it's always so happy.

Speaker 3:
[33:52] Yeah, yesterday, I had a colonoscopy. Ma, TMI. I almost didn't make it today. I almost didn't make it today. Imagine yourself with a fist the size of Gibraltar going up your hoot.

Speaker 2:
[34:09] Alicia's mom and her sisters, they're blonde. They'll tell you anything. Once you meet them, you never forget them.

Speaker 1:
[34:16] So then Rula shows up and she's like, hello, hello everyone, it's Rula. My family's actually known Billy's Daily, I don't know his family for like, I don't know, I'd say 30 years. We've patronized, I think that's the right word, his restaurants and then his family's used our jewelry store. It's all very interconnected.

Speaker 3:
[34:33] We're patrons, they're patrons. That's how we all connect. So now Ashley comes over and hugs everyone. She's like, I've never been with the ladies in the group environment without Rosie. So I don't have my emotional support animal, but I've heard so much about these ladies.

Speaker 4:
[34:50] I'm sure it's going to be great.

Speaker 1:
[34:53] And my esthetician does, Anita and her mom and like, their, like her aunts, like they all go to my esthetician. So I guess I'm sort of connected too. I guess I'm part of the family, right? I mean, they all go in together because one of them doesn't drive. It's just like Alicia.

Speaker 3:
[35:06] This is like my big fat Greek wedding, but you guys are a town. No, she didn't just call us Greek. You know what? Should we forgive her for that one?

Speaker 1:
[35:13] Fuck. All right. Don't give her a pizza chip. Okay. She doesn't deserve it. This recipe comes from Superior Bakery. Oh yeah. Did you guys know that like we had Superior Bakery?

Speaker 3:
[35:24] Yeah. My grandfather had Superior Bakery. Everybody in Rhode Island knows him. Everybody loves him. And Ashley's like, yeah, you know, I don't like Bill, you know, like everyone wants them to get married. And she's like, yeah, everyone says, I like Billy so much. And Liz is like, yeah, as much as I love him, I want to be like, what are you doing? Like, make it right. Make it right, Bill. And so we have flashed, we see a flashback to Alicia saying, I went to the lawyers and they said, you know what? He's not leaving you with any money, not a penny, nothing. You know, he wouldn't even put my name on the house.

Speaker 1:
[35:55] So they're all shocked about this. Ashley's just like, why you, he won't like put your name on the house. And she's like, this is jointly yours. I mean, like absolutely no negotiation there. This is where you raise your daughter together. This is where you make caramel macchiatos. This is where you fix ice machines. This is where you tell Joyce that her cappuccino is ready. Like I have to recall-

Speaker 3:
[36:15] Yeah, this is pretty crazy.

Speaker 1:
[36:15] You're saying Ashley, that is crazy. How do you not like, like how do you, like if she says she wants to have her name on that house, her name should be on that house. You guys are in a committed relationship and you're raising your child there.

Speaker 3:
[36:26] Yeah, and I don't know what the laws are there. Like with common law, marriage and stuff like that. But I would suggest she leaves him now, divorces him, or she can't divorce him, but leave him, sue him for half of everything, child support and all of that stuff, because the prenup is even worse, because then you're signing everything away. Where at this point, I think she would have a claim, because it doesn't matter if they're married. It's like she helps them with the business, they have a kid together, whatever. But I think if she, I think she doesn't want to get married because she's not signing that prenup that's agreeing to get nothing. That's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[37:01] But he is like, I used to tell her you gotta go to a lawyer.

Speaker 2:
[37:05] I was like, not only that, pizza mama. I mean, that's her. Come on, she's the pizza mama here.

Speaker 1:
[37:10] Sharon's like, yeah, but no one's gonna put a name on a business that if he's not married to you.

Speaker 3:
[37:16] Well, yeah, but then why would I marry him? He's not gonna put my name in a business or the house in my name, and he's not gonna give me anything. Sharon, I don't know. This is like old school advice that was really bugging me to hear.

Speaker 2:
[37:28] Like, well, you know, men cheat.

Speaker 4:
[37:30] That's what men do.

Speaker 3:
[37:31] Like, why is it gonna marry?

Speaker 2:
[37:32] You're not gonna put it, you gotta marry him if you want, except nothing to get a little.

Speaker 1:
[37:38] You know, I've always been a runaway bride. I was always in long-term relationships, just about to get engaged. Like, let's look at those rings, those then right before, like, you know what? I don't think this is my forever. Okay, I don't wanna be some Spanish teacher that gets cheated on. You know, I would break up with them. And so, with Billy, I got the ring, and I'm finally engaged, and now I'm still hesitant on getting married because it's like, I think I need more for him. I need him to work at Superior Bakery, like my grandfather did. I need to feel more of a commitment before I make my commitment.

Speaker 3:
[38:07] And rules like, you have to make sure you look out for yourself. I'm not a licensed attorney, but I don't have any charisma. And my financial planning, I understand all this stuff. I get it. Do you understand? Is my face moving at all? Is it at all? Are my eyes blinking right now? I feel like I'm blinking.

Speaker 1:
[38:25] I like when she goes, I'm not a licensed attorney, but I work with many. I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.

Speaker 3:
[38:34] Well, I'm glad she's here to tell you this stuff, honey. Yeah, cause otherwise the law will dictate. And I don't know many dictators, but I've heard of many and I'm all about trust. Okay, I'm all about trust. So Anita says, are you happily marriage? Yes, I am, but you know, it's never perfect.

Speaker 2:
[38:52] That makes me so bad when you talk like that. It makes me so mad.

Speaker 1:
[38:58] Yeah, but we all get past any bumps, you know, unless there's actual bumps, you know, where?

Speaker 3:
[39:04] But of course we do. Yeah, we get past bumps, honey.

Speaker 2:
[39:06] Yeah, all of us get past bumps. They're gonna cheat on you. That's right.

Speaker 3:
[39:10] There's all guys who will cheat on you. What are you gonna do? You're gonna grin some bears. That's what you do, honey.

Speaker 2:
[39:16] You know what, though?

Speaker 1:
[39:16] Sometimes you can't get past bumps because I had a relationship for many years with my husband. And then I found out that he wanted.

Speaker 2:
[39:24] What? He wanted. What did he want? He wanted. He wanted. What did he want?

Speaker 1:
[39:30] What was this?

Speaker 2:
[39:30] Like what? A motorboat? No, he wanted. He wanted.

Speaker 1:
[39:35] Oh, wanted.

Speaker 3:
[39:37] Yeah, he wanted. And so he laughed. And we're like, there was an indiscretion. You're in a healthy, loving relationship. Something happens out of the blue. I don't want to cry. I'm crying right now, right? Is my face moving at all? Don't cry, honey. It's all right if you do.

Speaker 2:
[39:52] We've all cried.

Speaker 3:
[39:54] We're not here to judge you. Not at all.

Speaker 2:
[39:56] Cry, cry. We've all been there.

Speaker 1:
[40:00] I'm just having a hard time getting over a lot of the lying and the twisting. Look at me. Look how angry I am. Sorry for yelling so much. Like, let me tell you something, ruler. It's hard to trust again. And this girl is gonna be looking over her shoulder. Where is he? He didn't drop for dinner or he had to go away on a business trip. I'm telling you, do you want to live like that for the rest of your life? You may know a lot of licensed attorneys, but do you know licensed attorneys that are looking over their shoulder every single day, wondering what's my man doing? What's going on with my man?

Speaker 4:
[40:33] Do you want to live with that?

Speaker 3:
[40:34] And let me tell you, honey, I did live like that for a while.

Speaker 2:
[40:38] Mine had affairs with a lot of women, a lot of women.

Speaker 3:
[40:43] And I was like, I'm listening, but I don't necessarily want to hear all of this. That's why I'm blinking so rapidly. Am I blinking? This is a lot about Brian that people don't know they haven't seen. He's very loving. He's a great provider. You know, we also have children. He looks like Hellboy. And the one thing that sticks with me though, do you want to spend the rest of your life looking over your shoulder? That hits me. That's what hit me. Because it's very difficult to look behind me. Without a backup camera, I would be nothing.

Speaker 1:
[41:15] The years I just crashed into garbage cans and walls. So just like, you know what? I have a feeling you're going to work really hard. And I just hope and pray that you somehow hurt him.

Speaker 3:
[41:31] Find the way. Find the way to hurt that man.

Speaker 1:
[41:35] Get that fucking man back. Yeah, get right up his ass. Just hurt him real hard.

Speaker 3:
[41:41] I'll tell you the truth. I'm going to pray that you get him back. That's what I'm praying, honey. That's what I'm praying.

Speaker 1:
[41:47] I want you to get him back with the backside of your hand. Just smack him across the face a few times. I love this. I love that, you know what? You're right. Like some of the advice is very old school in a way that I'm like, we're moving past this outlook. What I loved was like this group of older women sort of coming in with the sort of motherly advice of like, we got you, you know, like we've all been through it. We'll help you through it, Rula. You know?

Speaker 3:
[42:14] It's like that generational- Yeah, and then it turns into like fucking murder him, you know?

Speaker 1:
[42:19] I've been through it. Mine cheated on me left and right. And they always wondered what happened to his brake fluid.

Speaker 3:
[42:26] Huh. So yeah, I've always been wondering what happened to my brake fluid too. So then we go to a petting zoo or something, and Ashley's there with Rosie, and there are just this scene was cracking me up, because this scene is basically Rosie like, yeah, you know, like he really wants kids. I don't really want kids, but he really does. And there are kids crawling all over Ashley, sticking their fingers up her nose. She's got one over here, one over there, they're crawling all over. She's just trying to ignore her. She's like, no, kids are great.

Speaker 4:
[43:05] You're gonna love kids.

Speaker 3:
[43:06] And if you don't have kids, you're gonna wonder, why don't I have kids? I mean, look at me, isn't this great? Anybody heard from dad? Anybody? Nobody? Okay. You know, could you call him from your phone? Just, he'll probably answer if one of the kids calls.

Speaker 4:
[43:20] We're so in love.

Speaker 1:
[43:22] We're so happy. Look, just put it in a takeout order for a macchiato. He usually responds to that. Thank you. Yeah, it was hilarious. Cause Rosie was just talking about like, yeah, like, are we gonna have kids? I don't really want to have kids. Cause my mom wanted to have like, you know, my mom wants me to have kids, but I don't want to have kids. And I don't want to be controlling. And the entire time, Ashley is really trying to say, she at one point she says, oh yeah, you know, I've become my mom where I'm like, oh, have a kid, have a kid, have a kid. You never know. You're gonna love it. You don't want to wait too long because then you're gonna regret it in like five years. So just have the kids now. Don't worry about it. There's nothing about this scene that is serving as a good advertisement for having children.

Speaker 3:
[44:05] None of this is a lore, okay? None of this. And then Rosie at one point goes, hey little guy, what does a chicken sound make? Do you know? And balk balk. Wait, is that what they sound like? I think that's a duck. No, she's like balk balk. No, that's a quack quack. Ducks are quack quack. She goes, oh yeah, I have no idea. You know, I haven't been playing with kids' toys. I don't know. She goes, yeah, she's definitely not ready to be a mom. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

Speaker 2:
[44:29] Oh God, okay.

Speaker 3:
[44:30] Yeah, you punched me in the eye.

Speaker 2:
[44:31] It's okay. It's okay.

Speaker 4:
[44:33] We're having fun, right?

Speaker 1:
[44:35] And Rosie is trying so hard to have this monologue and express this situation between her and her man. And the kid just takes Ashley's earring out and throws it. And Rosie's like, I will go get that. And she does not even break from her monologue, but I'm impressed because normally it's like, okay, I'm not gonna bother talking about anything in my life because we're just gonna pick up stuff that the kid is throwing down. Because you know, toddlers love to take things and throw them on the ground. I don't know what joy they get from that. I don't know what the sensory element of that. Maybe it's a sense of control, whatever. I do not understand. They just love it. They love it. They'll take it, throw it.

Speaker 3:
[45:11] I still do it all the time.

Speaker 1:
[45:13] But Rosie's big thing that she sort of drills down to is that she has a lot of issues with her mom, and she felt like her mom was very controlling and critical. And she basically is like, I don't want to do that to my child, and I kind of want to break the pattern. And she sort of ends the scene saying, I don't want to mess anyone up. And I just wanted to let her know that the truth is, no matter what, all parents are going to mess up their children, even the best parents. So don't worry about it, right?

Speaker 3:
[45:47] Well, and then the ones that you meet who are like, oh my God, I had the best childhood, nothing bad ever happened to me, it was great. They're not, you know, it's not always the best either. So like some of us, yes, you know, the pain is sometimes necessary. But Rosie, you know, she is saying all this about the trauma of having a mom who didn't want her and stuff like that. But she also just doesn't want to have kids. She's like, we were trying when we first started dating, like I would just not stop taking my pill, and then I would like try. She's like, I know that's fucked up, but I did kind of want a kid, and then I just realized, no, I really don't. I just don't want one. So I think that's a rough age where everybody's like, okay, if you don't do it now, this is it. And you have to make that ultimate decision. I mean, if you don't want a kid, don't have a fucking kid. I do suggest having nieces though, that you can guilt into taking care of you when you're old.

Speaker 1:
[46:36] It sucks though. Like I think it sucks so much that all this pressure gets put on women. And it also, like when we just watched Quad on Marriage and Medicine, who for years didn't want to have a kid and then decide that she wants to have a kid and it looks like it may be too late for her to carry a kid. And then the torture that she feels. So I never want to be like, well, you don't want to like be down. You don't want to like find yourself at age 41, 42, and suddenly it's like much harder. So like I never I want people if you don't want to have a kid, you should like no one should make you feel bad for that decision. I just think it's such a fucking mindfucking. I think it's so unfair that this is like, this is like, I remember a few years ago, I was telling my mom, do you think there's something in the food supply?

Speaker 3:
[47:18] Because like all of my friends are having trouble having babies. And she says, Ronnie, you're in your forties. Just the things you don't think about as a guy. But I can imagine, yeah, it's got to be rough for women, because even as a gay guy, people are always like, Ronnie, why aren't you a dad?

Speaker 4:
[47:36] You're so good with kids, don't you want to be a dad? You can adopt kids, you can even use a surrogate, you can do this, you can have a kid.

Speaker 3:
[47:44] There's a lot of pressure on me, I don't even have a boyfriend, ever.

Speaker 1:
[47:48] So yeah, yeah, we, Dom and I get it a lot. People are like, you guys want to have kids someday? I'm like, no, I'd like to have brunch.

Speaker 3:
[47:56] But Dom, I just always say, because I like, I love having a house cleaner, but I don't like living house cleaners. I just want someone to lead.

Speaker 1:
[48:05] I want to be able to like do things. No, but I think that, I think that child, despite the fact that I'm on the record about how much kids drive me nuts, I am very paradoxical in that I actually think that like, child like raising a child and like all of that, I think is actually so wonderful and so amazing. And like, I just think like, it's a great thing, but it's just not something I want to do. You know what? Like I think probably like being a marathon runner and like being a marathon is probably a wonderful feeling. I'm never going to do it. Never going to touch it. Never going to go near it. I won't even watch it on TV, honestly.

Speaker 3:
[48:43] Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, I look at accountants. I'm like, you guys are working so fucking hard right now. You're doing such a good job. I don't want to do that. Like I can respect you without wanting to have your life. So Rosie is going through all of that and asks, she's like, well, I'm supportive of whatever decisions you're making and I really hope this isn't an issue in the long run.

Speaker 4:
[49:02] You know what I mean?

Speaker 3:
[49:04] God, hold on. Let me call Jared for some. Jared, you still love me, right? Jared, Jared, it's up now. Click. Okay. Yeah, we're doing great. We're doing great.

Speaker 1:
[49:18] So then we go to Liz and her boat. So the boat's called the Gypsy Spelled G-Y-P-S-E-A, which feels cringy because I think that that's no longer a phrase we're supposed to be saying. And it's great that it's like emblazoned on a boat. But you know what? Hey, I guess this is what they're doing. And so Liz is, she's calling Jerry because they sold the boat and she's getting everything off the boat.

Speaker 2:
[49:49] So Liz is, miraculously overnight, he sold the boat.

Speaker 3:
[49:53] I'll bet he did after his little, the mob connected guy selling his boat after being gone three weeks out of a month on his boat. I'm sure it has nothing to do with drugs. The police called, they're coming for the boat. We sold it.

Speaker 1:
[50:10] Good luck, suckers.

Speaker 2:
[50:12] Jerry overnight sold the boat, miraculously. I think Jerry decided to sell the gypsy because he's had enough and he's had his fill of sportfishing. And I love that he's home prominently now. God, we're gonna go down that seawall every single day. Wow. Maybe Dina will come, but especially with a new baby on the way. Let's be honest. What's he really gonna do? You think he's gonna change the diaper? When Jerry started sportfishing, it took him away three weeks, maybe come home three days and go back another three weeks. You know, when they say there's other fish in the sea, I guess there really were a lot, because it wasn't uncommon for them to be actually called, you know, and be like, hey, look, take a look, keep an eye on her, you know, look at the hat. So yeah, he was involved in the whole thing too. And that looked a lot like a thing that it wasn't.

Speaker 3:
[51:03] Well, Liz asked me to help her out to clean her boat. Kelsey comes and she says, I'm nervous walking into this because I don't know where thought process is. You know, what do I do? So she comes in and they're like, you look pretty. You look pretty.

Speaker 2:
[51:16] You look pretty.

Speaker 3:
[51:18] You look pretty.

Speaker 2:
[51:19] Well, okay. Listen, I'm just gonna put my shit out there. This is how I feel, Kelsey. I'm not proud of my reaction. What you said to me, I feel like people ongoing. All right?

Speaker 3:
[51:31] I do not like curse words.

Speaker 2:
[51:33] And you know, it triggered me. You know, cause you were more people though, there's nothing going on anything. All right? No ongoing nothing. And that's why it was like a gut punch.

Speaker 3:
[51:43] Like you go sign the narrative to make me feel bad. You know? Well, I think when I said it, it's because like I had a different experience with Dino. And my instinct was like to, you know, try and get you to withdraw because my experience wasn't really very good with him. And it's, this does not sound good. And then she tells us she had a weak moment 10 years ago, hooked up with Dino. She and her boyfriend weren't exclusively dating. Kelsey just cheats on everybody. By the way, we're learning now.

Speaker 1:
[52:18] And by the way, when she said me and my boyfriend weren't exclusively dating, I hate to break it to you. You're still not exclusively dating.

Speaker 3:
[52:25] That's what I mean. She's never, yeah. She's just always got something. And so she says she wasn't getting attention. So she started dating Dino and Dino filled the void and she was weak and vulnerable and unhappy. And then she tried to distance herself. But the more she hated him and said, get out of my life. It's like he loved that. And then he's like, oh, now you want me out? Okay, well, I'm going to show up more. So he was stalking you basically is what you're saying.

Speaker 1:
[52:55] That's really scary. Especially cause he's like a connected guy allegedly. That's like, this is like a very cheap. She gave a very nice spin to what really sounds like a very scary situation. You know, I think that she's like, yeah, I'm not going to say.

Speaker 3:
[53:11] You're 12 years old. This guy, this older man comes with all this money. And then the minute you tell him, no, he gets obsessed with you and won't leave you alone. Yeah. Sounds pretty scary.

Speaker 1:
[53:22] That's terrifying. Terrifying.

Speaker 3:
[53:25] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[53:27] But you know what, Dino seems like a great guy, a really great guy. And yeah, so wonderful. We love Dino. He is a hero and please don't murder us. Thank you. So Kelsey is like, I appreciate his friendship to you and how he took care of you, but I didn't have that same experience. I have like PTSD over it.

Speaker 2:
[53:44] And Liz is like, Yeah, I got that, babe. We had the vastly different experiences and I know you want nothing to do with that. I understand it, but you said the word ongoing. So like, unfortunately, everything that you experience gets thrown out the window, okay? Because I'm going. God, I don't want to say the old word again. Oh, God, I'm going. Oh, I get it. I'm boarding up on my little sis. Now will you help people with the rest of my shit stuff to this fucking boat so we can all move on? I want to get to the seawall with Dino.

Speaker 1:
[54:16] So now everyone's going to arrive at a parking lot to get on to, to get, basically to travel to this what I explore, rail explorer place. So they're all at this parking lot. And I don't know why they all like show up and Rosie opens all their doors. She's like, hi, welcome to the parking lot. We are here. You made it. We're in the parking lot. So they're all arriving. And Rosie is like, so in the famous words of Elwoods, working out gives you endorphins. Endorphins make you happy and happy people don't kill their husbands. So maybe if we just cycle a little bit, we can just have a great day and nobody wants to kill each other.

Speaker 3:
[55:00] So basically, Joellen's away from work and is away for work and Rula is super excited. She's like, look at me. I'm thrilled. Joellen's out of town. Am I blinking? I'm ready to pop champagne right there. Pop bottles, tequila. Let's fucking go.

Speaker 1:
[55:21] Rula is attempting to do a fun Rula today. It's not fun at all.

Speaker 3:
[55:27] It's not fun.

Speaker 1:
[55:28] Look at me. I'm bougie, I'm drinking. So they're drinking hard ciders and they're in a car and Kelsey goes, I opened one of these with my teeth before. And so she puts it in her teeth and everyone, including me starts cringing like, don't do that. Don't do that.

Speaker 3:
[55:46] Hideous.

Speaker 1:
[55:47] Teeth only go one direction and that's downhill. Don't do that.

Speaker 3:
[55:51] Well, not when they're made out of a toilet lid. So good for her. So they get on these like little train cars and basically you pedaled the train cars. So they're split up into these cars.

Speaker 1:
[56:02] So fun. I want to do it.

Speaker 3:
[56:04] Yeah. And Kelsey says, I packed so many snacks today before I came here. I ate the leftover McDonald's cheeseburgers I put in the trash, you guys.

Speaker 1:
[56:13] They're like, oh, okay. And then Ash is like, okay, we she's like, we could be friends. That is something I would totally do. Except I wouldn't, I don't eat leftovers from the trash. I just get my husband from there. So Rosie goes, well, I feel like everything I eat makes me feel like bloated and I feel sick. So like, why not you talk about like all I want?

Speaker 3:
[56:35] Is that because of the Ozempix? No, no, I've always been like that. You know? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[56:40] Like I have colitis.

Speaker 3:
[56:41] That's why I had to quit because I had to wear diapers to work. I'm like, oh my God, she was literally bleeding from her butthole, you guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[56:48] So then I took medical leave and then I was on medical leave and I'm like, this is amazing.

Speaker 4:
[56:51] Why would I ever go back to work?

Speaker 1:
[56:53] So then Kelsey tells us, yeah, right. She left on medical leave. No, me and the entire state of Rhode Island knows that she got fired for having an affair with one of the higher ups. Wait, what? And is this a different affair than the rumor about the coach from Providence College? How many affairs can be had by one cat?

Speaker 3:
[57:13] This is so fucking funny. So Kelsey is like, yes, I love that Rosie is like, oh, I don't want people to be talking about the affair, so I'm going to get them talking about my bleeding asshole.

Speaker 1:
[57:23] My insane colitis. Because then my colitis magically cleared up and I was like, all right, I'm never going back to work. I'm like, you're working right now, sweetheart.

Speaker 3:
[57:34] Oh, so Liz is saying, okay, that was not at the party.

Speaker 2:
[57:39] I got mental. All right, man, I got mental.

Speaker 3:
[57:41] Yeah, you did, but it was your party. You were allowed to get mental, you know? It's my party and I'll fucking go through psychosis if I want to, you know?

Speaker 2:
[57:49] The cuckoo clock came out.

Speaker 3:
[57:50] It was the cuckoo clock.

Speaker 2:
[57:52] It came out of me.

Speaker 1:
[57:54] Yeah, but you know what? I appreciate that, you know? This is Dolores. I'm here, everyone. So Alicia goes, yeah, she said you apologize.

Speaker 2:
[58:00] She's like, oh, did she say that?

Speaker 1:
[58:01] It's like, yeah, she said that.

Speaker 2:
[58:02] She's like, yeah, well, she apologized to me too. And, you know, but she probably didn't tell you that, huh, huh, that she apologized to me, huh?

Speaker 1:
[58:09] Alicia goes, yeah, well. So then they finally get to this place and they're-

Speaker 3:
[58:16] Oh, sorry, I already put them on the bike things. Sorry, everybody. Everyone's totally confused now.

Speaker 1:
[58:21] Yeah, I didn't realize we were, I also thought they were on the bikes, but they were actually in the cars.

Speaker 2:
[58:28] People are gonna be like, you guys didn't even watch the show.

Speaker 1:
[58:29] We did watch it. We just, sometimes it's hard to tell different forms of transportation in Rhode Island.

Speaker 3:
[58:34] You have to get to a car to get to another car to get to a rail car. Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:
[58:38] We left out a step. Yeah, it's like literally like multiple vehicles throughout the whole rest of the show.

Speaker 3:
[58:44] Rula is wacky Rula. So she pours drinks for people in the back of her little rail car thing. And Alicia makes some jokes. She's like, I've never done this railroad thing. Like, I don't do big classes. I don't ride a bike, you know? But I do James Fonda. That's what I do. I do James Fonda. I still love her.

Speaker 1:
[59:01] James Fonda.

Speaker 3:
[59:03] Her work that's on YouTube, I love her so much.

Speaker 1:
[59:07] I love James Fonda. But I love her obviously pluralizing Jane. Or it's either that she's pluralizing Jane or she's making Fonda a possession of Jane. But I love either version of that, but I also love her dedication to this long lost fitness fad. It's like, you know what I love doing? I love doing fitness from 40 years ago. Oh, so good.

Speaker 3:
[59:28] It's actually really good. Whenever I'm working out, which has been a long time, but whenever I'm working out, I used to like to do eight-minute abs, which you can find on YouTube, and that's from like the 80s too. It's really grainy. It's like a little tiny square on the thing.

Speaker 1:
[59:43] There are some, the person who invented eight-minute abs, something just happened with them.

Speaker 3:
[59:48] Oh God.

Speaker 1:
[59:50] No, it's a thing. Maybe they died. I don't know. Either way, I'm sorry. It was just in the news. I could swear it was just in the news. Okay, they're just doing these things. They're on this, like, they're going down the track and Rosie is talking to Liz. They're in the same little cart thing. And Rosie's like, so how do you feel about Ashley?

Speaker 2:
[60:12] And Liz is like, oh, you're so direct.

Speaker 1:
[60:15] She's like, I know I can't even help it.

Speaker 2:
[60:17] Well, you know what, you know, what do I know of her? She's, you know, my very first experience, 4th of July, it wasn't a great one. Okay, like she didn't even look at me.

Speaker 1:
[60:26] And we see the 4th of July that Ashley barely said hi to Liz. So Liz is, Rosie says, honestly, Liz, you can be like really scary. Like, I don't think you realize how scary you are. Like you're so successful, you're beautiful. You have all these nice things about you.

Speaker 2:
[60:41] But those aren't scary things that you're listing there. Those aren't scary things.

Speaker 3:
[60:46] But all of them together can be scary.

Speaker 1:
[60:49] But by the way, when she says, those aren't scary things, she says that in the scariest way you could say that.

Speaker 2:
[60:59] You know, maybe I do come across as scary, but I know when my heart resigns, I would give you the shirt off my back.

Speaker 3:
[61:15] My God, I jump every time you come on the TV, girl.

Speaker 1:
[61:19] I know, seriously. So they get to the end of this track and Dolores is like, that was very fun, thank you. It was almost as fun as that fruit salad you made me.

Speaker 3:
[61:32] So now they go to another little public park area where they sit on Adirondack chairs around a fire pit with real wood, which means that there's tons of smoke blowing and the wind starts blowing and just starts blowing all the smoke into Rosie's face and she just sits there. She doesn't move.

Speaker 1:
[61:48] She just wipes it off, she looks like she's crying, but she just gets the smoke out of her eyes.

Speaker 3:
[61:52] She's literally crying because there's so much smoke and she doesn't move. Like move. Do I have to come over there and move your chair? What are you doing?

Speaker 1:
[62:00] And Fun Ruler, she's like, guys, I have a buzz. Oh my God. I'm being boozed right now. Look at me. I'm so much more fun than Joellen, right guys? Look at me. Fun Ruler.

Speaker 2:
[62:11] So they sit and they're like, it's like, oh wow, Rosie Woods, you out there yourself, out around deck chairs with a view of the sea. Wow. This is just the nicest thing we ever done did, except for me. I mean, I have a seawall in my backyard, but this is nice too.

Speaker 3:
[62:27] So Ashley and Rosie go walk to the water station and Rosie's like, okay, so I was with Liz, obviously, and you came up and I know she was just basically like the first time I met Ashley, she snapped me. I'm gonna kill the bitch. Like literally take her on a fishing boat, throw her over while I still have the boat. So yeah, you don't pay attention to her. So you're not even trying. That's what she said. So Ashley's like, oh God, oh geez, now what do I do? And really goes, they're having some side combos over there. Here's all I heard, like, like, like, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[62:58] Doing that, she's like, look at them, those young women just saying like, like, like all the time. God, they can't even speak right. So then basically Ashley says, you know, my mom always said that when she was younger, that people mistook her shyness for bitchiness. I think that's what's happening here. I'm just like truly shy in front of some people, especially the scary ones. So I'm gonna work on it.

Speaker 3:
[63:17] All right, all right, all right. Let me ask you a question. Like, I really want to help Pizza Mama, okay? So I'm growing Pizza Mama with Billy. I got all these ideas and I want to show up. I could do it, you know? Like, I'm not just a girl that's from Superior Bakery, which my grandfather started. Everyone knew him at Rhode Island. You know, I'm just not someone who's gonna do your laundry all day. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[63:37] So what do you mean? You have a name, you have a Pizza Mama, you invented it, you designed it.

Speaker 1:
[63:43] And Alicia's like, no, none of it's in my name though, FYI.

Speaker 2:
[63:46] She's like, but you have to demand it. It's up to you to demand it.

Speaker 1:
[63:50] She's like, so Ashley says, well, have you ever had a conversation about it? And so then they decide that they're going to do some role playing where Kelsey is going to pretend to be Bill. And Alicia is going to talk to Kelsey like she's Bill.

Speaker 3:
[64:07] Alicia goes, OK, OK, I love doing this stuff. I love that Alicia is just role playing with her friends often. OK, I'm Bill. OK, so what are you going to say to Bill? OK, look, here's the thing, Bill. I can't have sex with you all the time because it's not like I'd rather go to bed and watch Love Island. There, I said it.

Speaker 1:
[64:25] Yeah, I'd rather go to bed. It's like, OK, well, do you want to like, how about something more specific? He's like, OK, well, I'm not putting you on the house, Alicia, which is the thing that we're really here to talk about, Love Island, just, oh, yeah. Well, then I said, please, Billy, I have all these ideas like Pizza Mama without asking for a dollar back and knowing that I'm getting zero for like 11 years or something like that. And like, I'm giving you my whole life. And but like at the heart of it, like you should be putting me on a house because you should want to take care of me. I'm the mother of your daughter and I love you. Isn't that enough? Like that's showing me something, huh?

Speaker 2:
[65:03] Isn't that enough, Billy?

Speaker 1:
[65:04] This is gonna make me cry.

Speaker 3:
[65:06] That was actually really good. You didn't even need this work, like you haven't. So just go say that. And so Ruel is like, yeah, and tell him there's intrinsic value of being a wife and a mother that you're not being compensated for, okay? Even my kid's got $9 trillion yesterday to water.

Speaker 1:
[65:23] Yeah, there's an intrinsic value of being a wife and a mother. Kelsey turns around and goes, she doesn't even know what intrinsic means.

Speaker 3:
[65:31] That's when it comes to Alicia and Alicia's like, yeah, well, what was that?

Speaker 1:
[65:35] But I can say in Spanish, had a great teacher.

Speaker 3:
[65:39] Okay, let me put it in layman's terms. I don't know what that is either. Okay, let me make it simple. Just cause you're not actively earning an income, you're doing laundry, you're doing cooking, cleaning, whatever, helping with stuff, you got value. She's like, oh my God, ruler so financially independent. Like I envy that about her. I hate asking Billy for money. Like I feel almost embarrassed or intimidated with like the whole financial thing. This is like, wait, you guys, what were you talking about earlier? You know, cause I saw you guys over there, you was talking, what were you saying?

Speaker 1:
[66:08] Oh, we were just having a little chat. Yeah, well, what happened?

Speaker 4:
[66:12] Oh, well nothing.

Speaker 1:
[66:13] We were talking about how Rosie and I have been very intimidated by Liz, you, that one.

Speaker 4:
[66:17] Oh my God, she was looking right back at me. I should never have said her name.

Speaker 1:
[66:21] I hear if you say Liz's name three times in a row, she comes through your mirror and drags you into the netherworld.

Speaker 3:
[66:26] Rosie says, don't rub me into this. I did tell you on the rails though, sometimes you can be scary, Liz, which is true. Like intimidating, but I'm not scared now, sometimes. Well, okay, I'm a little scared.

Speaker 2:
[66:38] Liz's like, you're honest. I got this really steely exterior, but deep down I'm super sensitive and I think that's why. I think maybe it could be partly a defense mechanism or partly maybe this just be the bad-ass bitch will kill you if you fuck with her. I don't really allow many people to get close, especially fast, and I've experienced so much loss in my life that I either don't want to get close to people or they don't want to lose them. I don't want to get close to people and then be disappointed by them.

Speaker 1:
[67:10] Like, okay.

Speaker 2:
[67:11] So Liz is like, you know, sometimes I sometimes tend to jump down people's prots, but not on purpose.

Speaker 3:
[67:18] So Rosie, you asked her if, yeah, exactly. Do you think that's what happened on Saturday? And she goes, Saturday at my party?

Speaker 2:
[67:24] No, I was heated, I was drunk, and I'm not proud of it. Nobody's buying a small man.

Speaker 3:
[67:30] Circumstances happen and you move on. Next, has anybody tried Liz's iced coffee?

Speaker 1:
[67:37] It pairs beautifully with fruit salad. They all say it. I say it. So Rosie goes, well, Alicia, you said she's always been like that. Alicia's like, what? It's like, you know, that Liz just gets mad. What? Huh? You know, when you said she, you know, she's hoping to never react that way again, you should have said, it's probably not gonna change.

Speaker 2:
[67:59] Rosie, I wouldn't do that, doll.

Speaker 1:
[68:01] I wouldn't do that. We're cut from the same cement. Cloth? You got cloth? I'll take some cloth. No, no, you're cut from the same cloth. Why are you cutting your cloth? Why you buy cloth to cut it? See, this is what's wrong with you.

Speaker 3:
[68:14] Listen, I just said what it is, okay? Don't be trinic. But Liz is like, why did you say that? And Rosie's like, because I asked, like, has she always been like this? Wait, you know what? How is that? Don't turn that around. Don't turn that around right now. Don't turn it around. She was, oh my God, freak out, but then be cool is what she meant. Rosie, Rosie, I would do that if you, I will you just keep it real, okay? Don't do that, okay? And so Rosie's like, okay, well, I guess she's upset that I told the truth.

Speaker 1:
[68:39] Yeah, but I also kind of thought like that was, it was just like a fact that we were all acknowledging. And I guess you really can't be honest or transparent because everybody's afraid. So Alicia's not gonna be bad.

Speaker 3:
[68:48] Oh gosh, okay, being honest and transparent. Lady who made up colitis to get out of being fired for fucking the boss.

Speaker 1:
[68:55] And obviously pitting these two against each other was very Whitney Rose like.

Speaker 3:
[68:59] So yeah, that's her role in this. She's just gonna go try and start fights with everybody all the time.

Speaker 1:
[69:05] She's like a Whitney Rose, but a Whitney Rose who's kind of disgusted by things, which I like. So Alicia says, I said, this is who you are, this is Liz. And they're like trying to make it into something like, and so Rosie goes, you just admitted you said it.

Speaker 2:
[69:18] I mean, I didn't admit to shit.

Speaker 1:
[69:20] Don't flip like that. Don't flip that shit. Don't do that to me. Don't put shit in my mouth, okay? Unless it's a pizza chip. I'll eat a pizza chip from Superior Bakery. My grandfather started Superior Bakery.

Speaker 2:
[69:29] Don't even say his name.

Speaker 1:
[69:30] Stop talking about Superior Bakery.

Speaker 2:
[69:32] Because guess what?

Speaker 1:
[69:33] You know me like that.

Speaker 2:
[69:34] Yo, okay, once you flip your shit, I'll never see you in the same light again.

Speaker 1:
[69:37] So you fucking slow your roll. Because you're not hot.

Speaker 2:
[69:39] You're not hot.

Speaker 1:
[69:40] You don't even have a pizza chip in your name. What bakery did you work in? None, huh?

Speaker 3:
[69:44] God. Oh yeah? Now I know who you really are. Don't fuck with me. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[69:48] And Liz is like, it's all right, babe, okay. No, it's not all right.

Speaker 3:
[69:51] I was all right because she twisted my words. All right. And I don't even know that many. So you're a troll. You're a troll is what you are.

Speaker 2:
[70:00] Someone get out of thick noon already. You know, I don't like feeling betrayed.

Speaker 1:
[70:04] Like what are you trying to do? Like what are you trying to prove? I wasn't bashing Liz. And I don't like how Rosie twisted it. I don't like that behavior.

Speaker 2:
[70:12] I don't like the snakes. I don't like it at all.

Speaker 3:
[70:15] She fucked me and I'm not into that. I'm not into that, all right? You did fuck me.

Speaker 2:
[70:18] And you know what?

Speaker 3:
[70:19] Now welcome to Rhode Island, bitch. Welcome to Rhode Island, bitch.

Speaker 2:
[70:22] This is how we roll.

Speaker 3:
[70:24] Look, isn't she from Rhode Island?

Speaker 1:
[70:26] I know.

Speaker 3:
[70:26] Like literally does the local news on Rhode Island. You're like, welcome to Rhode Island. I think she understands Rhode Island, I think at this point.

Speaker 1:
[70:34] I'm sorry, I just really miss watching the OCA. Sometimes I have to quote it, you know? It's a great show. 20 years old.

Speaker 3:
[70:40] Thirsty bitch. You're so thirsty. It's scary. Fucking whore. You're a fucking whore is what you are.

Speaker 4:
[70:45] I was like, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1:
[70:47] I love this. I love this. So Ashley was like, I don't even know what happened, but I want to cry. So Alicia goes off and she's like, Rola tries to go after her. And Alicia was like, no, no, no, I need to get her out of here. Cause I'm not gonna, I'm gonna end up, I'm gonna kill her. I'm gonna kill her. No, calm down a second. Come here, come here. Okay, come here. Okay, I got a buzz. I'm being a bit bougie right now. Okay, I apologize for yelling.

Speaker 3:
[71:11] Back at the fire, Liz is like, did I miss something there? Rosie's like, I don't even know how this happened. I'm just like so starstruck by it. Like, what?

Speaker 1:
[71:21] It's like, wow, this fight, it's like Denzel Washington walked in. I'm so starstruck by it. I think she thinks that I was trying to start a problem with you, which I was, but now I'm going to act like I didn't. And I just don't know why she doesn't realize that I'm not starting a problem with you.

Speaker 3:
[71:37] Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:
[71:38] I can hear you over there. I can hear you. You know what? I can handle what? What? What?

Speaker 3:
[71:41] I was just saying you tried to do something you should have done. You know, like you just did the most grossest thing ever. Okay. It was the most grossest. Like, thank you for showing me your cards. Thanks for showing me your cards.

Speaker 1:
[71:52] Okay. Liz isn't upset about anything. It's okay.

Speaker 2:
[71:55] It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1:
[71:56] How she twisted things is what's weirding me out. Okay. It's like driving on bridges. Who does that?

Speaker 2:
[72:02] Right?

Speaker 1:
[72:02] Because people like that. They're just like a little troll, like snake eyes. But like, that's just not my style.

Speaker 2:
[72:07] Okay. You know what? I'm a local road.

Speaker 1:
[72:09] You're a highway. Get out of here.

Speaker 4:
[72:11] I feel really bad for Rosie.

Speaker 3:
[72:13] Cause like, this is a demonstration of Alicia's going to defend Liz, you know?

Speaker 4:
[72:18] And I don't know. It's not that deep.

Speaker 3:
[72:19] It's not so.

Speaker 4:
[72:20] I've never seen anything like this on my entire life.

Speaker 1:
[72:25] She's like, I would never have said it if I thought you would react this way. Like, Jesus.

Speaker 3:
[72:30] Yeah. Yeah. But I didn't like the way you looked. Okay. I don't like the way you looked. Yeah. You look like a pizza chip with eyes. Okay. And pizza chips shouldn't talk.

Speaker 1:
[72:40] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[72:40] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[72:41] It looks sneaky. You just get a sneaky little troll. It's like, well, maybe I'm like, maybe because I'm in the middle of the smoke.

Speaker 3:
[72:47] It's like, no, no, I don't like snakes either. And you're a snake though. You're a snake and a troll. Okay. Snake troll person.

Speaker 2:
[72:53] All right. All right, Alicia. Come here. Come here. Listen, listen, Alicia, Alicia, Alicia.

Speaker 1:
[72:57] So Liz goes after Alicia.

Speaker 2:
[72:58] Come on, Alicia. What's going on over here?

Speaker 3:
[73:02] She, you know what? She lies. That freaks me out. Like I don't like that shit.

Speaker 2:
[73:05] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[73:06] Liz goes, what's happening?

Speaker 2:
[73:07] Hey, by the way, do I have chocolate on my mouth?

Speaker 3:
[73:09] She goes, no. You know what? Like, I feel like I'm drooling too. Am I drooling?

Speaker 2:
[73:13] What happened to you is what happened to me Saturday night. I had the exact response, worse actually. In some ways, my storyline is a little bit better than yours, and I regretted it the next day.

Speaker 3:
[73:23] No, no, I'm not going to regret it. I promise you that.

Speaker 2:
[73:26] Gabby, you're reacting, you might.

Speaker 3:
[73:28] You might regret it.

Speaker 2:
[73:30] No, not with her. No, I was too loyal to her too. You know, I don't give a fuck, but I'm like, not with her, not with her.

Speaker 1:
[73:37] So then Ashley's like, well, that was shocking for me to see. Rosie's like, shocking for me to experience. Jesus. I guess that's her thing is that she just says Jesus at the end of everything when she's dismayed.

Speaker 3:
[73:48] They're all just cracking up that Alicia is losing it. It's like one little thing and now Alicia's gonna scream and yell for the rest of the night. They're cracking up cause it really is funny. And so now they come back because Liz has calmed her down and Kelsey's like, yeah, Rosie just exaggerates and manipulate stories and you know, don't keep talking about nonsense. You get what you get. So they come back and Alicia's like, you know what? I tell Liz exactly how I feel.

Speaker 4:
[74:14] She goes, I didn't say you didn't.

Speaker 3:
[74:15] Yeah, you just acted weird and I don't like what you did. You know what? You distracted me did I? You distracted me.

Speaker 1:
[74:20] You distracted me. It's like, well, I'm sorry I disrespected you. I didn't mean to.

Speaker 2:
[74:24] Well, then learn from that.

Speaker 1:
[74:25] It's like, well, I think you misinterpreted it.

Speaker 2:
[74:27] No, I didn't.

Speaker 1:
[74:28] It's like, well, I think it had an intrinsic thing. I just said that to confuse you.

Speaker 2:
[74:32] Why, huh? Why?

Speaker 3:
[74:33] Where am I?

Speaker 2:
[74:34] Where am I?

Speaker 1:
[74:34] How do we get into it?

Speaker 3:
[74:35] Oh my God. Can we go talk about it? She goes, oh, you know what? Like, I'd rather you tell me sorry. Like just tell, just say sorry. She's like, just come talk to me. And so they walk away.

Speaker 2:
[74:46] And now Liz is like, oh God, why you gotta walk over there to talk about it?

Speaker 1:
[74:52] So Alicia's like, Rosie, you just threw me for a loop. She was like, I don't understand. I had a whole conversation with Liz on the way here. And I said, a lot of times I feel intimidated by you and I feel like people walk on fucking eggshells with you.

Speaker 2:
[75:02] She's like, well, she knows that. Exactly. So I was like, why is it okay to call me out?

Speaker 1:
[75:06] But you're not going to call her out.

Speaker 3:
[75:09] So Liz is like, where's the, give me some of that. They're like, is there any more? Yeah, it's Bougie Roola.

Speaker 1:
[75:17] Okay, back to me, Rosie. Can you just understand that I'm not coming from a bad place? What, like Cranston? No, I literally don't even live there. Okay, well, if you say you're sorry, I'm good. Good, well, I'm really sorry. And I just don't want us to not be friends. I just don't want it to be like, you're secretly fucking hating me.

Speaker 3:
[75:34] Like, I don't hate you. I don't hate you. What are you talking about? Okay, we're good. Are you good? Okay, because I can get over shit. I can get over it. Okay, you can't though, right? But you gotta work past this shit.

Speaker 1:
[75:45] You know what? I'm a fan of the gangsta. Yeah, all of a sudden Alicia's like, no, I love you.

Speaker 3:
[75:51] Get over it. What are you mad about?

Speaker 1:
[75:54] I had a Fig Newton. You weren't watching. I had a Fig Newton. I feel so much better. Sometimes I have a temper. I forgive easily. All you have to do is say sorry. If I had my peppermint oil, I probably would have been more calm. The smell calms me down. It's like Mary Catherine Gallagher's. You put your fingers in your armpits and you smell them. I can't even do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. It's too much.

Speaker 3:
[76:14] Somehow they hug and everyone's like, oh my God, did she just hug her? And they go, God, this is record time at Flip Flop World. It's just, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2:
[76:21] We call Cece the Flip Flop. That's why we call her that.

Speaker 1:
[76:26] And that's where it ends. It's hilarious. That was a very funny fight, mainly because it was Alicia talking the entire time. And just hearing her talk is hilarious to me.

Speaker 3:
[76:35] So silly. All right, everybody, thanks so much for being here. That brings us to the end. We'll see you tomorrow for some more re-copage. Oh, actually, tomorrow's gonna be a little late. It's not going up till tomorrow night because I will be traveling, okay? Just put out the word. We'll talk to you next time, everybody. Love ya.

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[76:52] Bye. Oh, kisses. Besos. Watch What Crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alice in King.

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