transcript

Speaker 1:
[00:00] Breaking news for your home, Way Day. Wayfair's big sale is almost here, and you can score the best deals in home, like up to 80% off everything home. Yes, you heard that right, 80% off, with free shipping on everything. Plus surprise flash deals all Way Day long. We're talking outdoor furniture and essentials, rugs and more, all at Wayfair, and all up to 80% off during Way Day. Shop Wayfair's Way Day from April 25th through 27th.

Speaker 2:
[00:33] Come see me on tour in Las Vegas, Burbank, California, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, Spokane, and Tacoma, Washington. Go to jimmydore.com for a link for tickets. We have special guests with us at Steve Baker. He's an investigative journalist, independent content creator. Under the moniker The Pragmatic Constitutionalist, he was arrested in March of 2024. Oh, that's when I first wanted to have you on, when you got arrested. He was arrested on four misdemeanor chargers related to entering the Capitol on January 6th. He was later pardoned by President Trump. Baker currently works for Blaze Media, where he continues to report on political and civil liberty issues, including the case of the DC pipe bomber. Welcome to the show, Steve Baker. Hi, Steve.

Speaker 3:
[01:39] Hey, Jimmy, thanks for having me. I got a correct part of the intro.

Speaker 2:
[01:42] Oh, sure.

Speaker 3:
[01:44] Two weeks ago today, I was fired from the Blaze, so.

Speaker 2:
[01:46] Oh, no kidding. Wow. That's right. Do we have a scoop here? You already talked about this to everybody.

Speaker 3:
[01:54] We've talked about it, but it was directly related to this incident.

Speaker 2:
[01:57] No kidding.

Speaker 3:
[01:58] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[02:00] It was related to the pipe bomber?

Speaker 3:
[02:02] Correct. 100% related.

Speaker 2:
[02:04] So now, was this year reporting? Do you remember this? Yeah, that's you.

Speaker 3:
[02:09] That's me.

Speaker 2:
[02:11] Steve has been the guy who's been comparing the walk, the gate of the January 5th pipe bomber, with the gate of a female cop that we're pretty sure was the person. And so we reported this when you first broke this story. And if you remember, former Capitol Police officer, a forensic match for January 6th pipe bomber, sources say. So this is her, according to Steve Baker, and according to a 95% sure match.

Speaker 3:
[02:42] 94% by the software, 98% by human intelligence experts. Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:
[02:48] OK. So that's what she looks like when she's planting a bomb. This is what she looks like when she's on the soccer field, and that's when she looks like, I don't know what she's doing there. But so a forensic, so you first broke the story, a forensic analysis of a female former US. Capitol police officer's gate, 94 to 98% match to the unique stride of a long sought January 6 pipe bomb suspect. According to you, a source close to the congressional investigation of January 6, additionally told Blaze News evidence has emerged recently that pointed toward law enforcement, possibly being involved in the planting of the pipe bomb. Now, this is, there's so many damning things. This is one of the most. So the pipe bomber is going to walk by getting ready to go plant the bomb. A cop car drives by and she gives them a wave. Now, if you were planting, let's watch, let's watch. So here, there's the pipe bomber. And here comes the cops. And she gives a wave. You see the wave? That's a cop car. Hey, how you doing? I'm getting ready to plant the bomb. Do you want to, I'll show it to you again. Here she comes. She sees the cop car coming. And when she hits right about here, she gives them a wave. Hey, how's it going? And here comes the cop car. Everything's good. And this is the guy they said did it, right? The DC, this is the, the feds are saying it's this guy. Brian Cole Jr. Yeah, it was not that guy. I can, I would, you know, I'd bet my house on it that it wasn't that guy. But now you've got, you've been releasing even more video evidence comparing her gait. And you say what this video means and why it's important. These side by side videos of, so let's watch. These are side by side videos of the gray hooded pipe bomber that everybody agrees that's the pipe bomber, but they don't agree who it is. So let's do some side by side analysis. So here's, here's her and here's her hair. Okay, let's keep it going. Show it again. So she does a weird, she's turning right, but she has her right foot kind of cross over her left foot. Which is-

Speaker 3:
[05:04] And let me explain that to you why that's important. This is an incredibly important moment that we captured from both the hooded bomber and the former Capitol Police officer, Shauni Kirkoff, is that if you are making a right hand turn, doesn't have to be a hard right. Doesn't have to be 90 degrees or even 45 degrees, but a slight right hand turn, it would be normal to cross your left foot over your right foot. If you're making that turn and you're crossing your right foot over your left foot into a right hand turn, you better have something to grab hold of because you're going to the ground.

Speaker 2:
[05:43] And if you try doing that, which I did, it's very awkward. You lost my balance to try to do that. But she did it easily and you could see she's a soccer player. Those pictures of her are playing soccer, right? That I showed earlier. So that's kind of a move soccer players would make. They practice those moves, right? Because they're all about the feet and trying to fake out their opponents. And so let's keep playing this a little bit. So, tell me what I'm seeing here. So, there it is. There it is again, right? That's it. That's that weird, she's coming, turning right, but putting her right foot, and there she's doing it there. At the same right leg cross. That is really good work that you got that.

Speaker 3:
[06:34] The Capitol Police officer, she has basically three very distinct moves with her right leg. Now, these could have been the product of a 2015 college soccer injury, where she broke her right tibia, and it can create this condition. Could have been from birth, but it was more than likely this injury that caused this. But she's very pigeon-toed on the right-hand side, and she has even when she's walking straight, and it's not every step. In fact, the faster she moves, the less likely she is to do it, but the more tired she is, and we have hours of video of her, by the way, Jimmy. And the more tired she is, then the more likely that that move begins to happen. So she has that right crossover in front of her left foot. They call it circumduction or something like that. And then additionally, she kind of has a right leg drag that gives a very slight limp. And that was the key that tipped me off initially that I might have a match here. And then it was from there that I took it to the experts for analysis.

Speaker 2:
[07:44] And the experts agreed with you. AI agreed with you 94% likely. And the experts, humans, said it was 98%. Correct. Let's see. Is there any more to this video? Let's see. No, I think that's... We'll show it one more time. Okay. So here, this is what we're talking about. The same move. That's the same move. That's the same move, the right leg cross.

Speaker 3:
[08:09] And if you run the probabilities on that, let's just, again, keep it frozen there for just a moment. This particular scene on the left-hand side of the screen there, the hooded figure, is right behind the Republican National Committee headquarters. And it is at just literal seconds before she drops the second device and places the second device behind... Actually, it's behind the Capitol Hill Club, which is right next to the RNC. On the right, that's the Upper West Terrace early in the afternoon after all of the violence began at the Capitol that day. And, of course, she's in all of her gear right there at the time. That is less than a half a mile away from each other.

Speaker 2:
[08:58] Well, that's the way you make that point, like this. So what are the chances of two people with that same gate being videotaped within a half mile of each other? That's your point, right?

Speaker 3:
[09:11] Within a half a mile of each other in less than 20 hours apart, it is an astronomical improbability.

Speaker 2:
[09:19] So, tell me, so what, so do you have an overall theory on the January of Pipe Bomber? Let me hear it.

Speaker 3:
[09:28] Yeah, okay. My grand unified theory is simply this, is that I do not believe that Shauni Kirkoff was a lone wolf, mastermind, evil pipe bomber. I believe that she was part of what she thought was a Capitol Police training exercises, the devices were not real, they were inert, we know that. I know that the FBI is not saying that in their reports. I know they're not saying it in the court filings from the DOJ. But FBI agents themselves who were involved in the investigation have told us, these are whistleblowers, they have filed protected disclosures to Congress and said that they were told that they were inert devices. All right, so we have a contradiction from inside the FBI right there. Additionally, if you watch these videos of her, for the hundreds of hours that myself and my team have spent on this, that you will begin to recognize that the bomber. Now, Jimmy, we have a lot more video than what the FBI has released to the American public. They've released 30 seconds of video. We have about 21 minutes of her 45-minute trek ourselves. In the totality of that video, you'll see a person that is very confident. They're not nervous. They're not scared whatsoever. They know where the blind spots are in the Capitol CCTV camera. They know when to enter from a blind spot. They know when to exit into a blind spot to replenish the backpack because the person did not carry both devices at the same time. And there was a blind spot where either she parked her car or whether her accomplice parked the car at Folger Park. There's no Capitol CCTV coverage there. And then when she's finished planting the RNC device, she disappears through a secret gate. And when I say it's a secret gate, it's a hidden gate. It's a gate in the alleyway behind the RNC. It's called Rumsey Court. And there's a gate that you can't, there's no visible evidence in this fence that there's a gate. There's no visible evidence that there's a latch. I've actually videotaped that myself to show and demonstrate. There's no way a person like Brian Cole would know that that gate existed. And then she disappears into that blind spot and then she's never seen again. So the person is well trained, but she's also coordinating with other Capitol Police officers because the next day, and this is the kill shot, Jimmy, the kill shot is that the next day, two counter surveillance Capitol Police plainclothes officers are deployed after the RNC device is found to look for another device. They drive into the area, about a quarter of a mile away, park their car across the street from the RNC, get out of their car, walk to the Congressional Black Caucus Institute and check under a bush there. And then two and a half minutes later, they find, quote unquote, they discovered the device under a bush at the DNC. The question is, what's the connection between the Congressional Black Caucus Bush and the DNC Bush? Those are the only two places that the hooded bomber sat down the night before. Those two plainclothes Capitol Police officers knew exactly where to look.

Speaker 2:
[12:51] Oh, so, okay, fantastic. Now, let me just show you, Thomas Massey is not buying the official story either.

Speaker 3:
[13:00] No.

Speaker 2:
[13:01] Here's what he says. Three things I never believe about the January 5th pipe bomb story. Number one, the bomber was a lone wolf. Number two, FBI was this incompetent for four years in a case this consequential. They didn't accuse that Cole guy until four years after, and it was like a week after you discovered it was a cop. Then all of a sudden, they come out, right? That was the timing on this?

Speaker 3:
[13:31] Five days after we named Shauni Kirkoff, the FBI put a counter surveillance team on Brian Cole's house, five days.

Speaker 2:
[13:41] The third thing is that the perpetrators were pro-Trump, so they definitely weren't. Just like the January 6th thing, which we now know was a Fed's erection. The Feds was an inside job. They had the unmarked buses show up there. They had lots of assets. They had assets inside the Capitol that took off their police uniforms, put on Trump supporter uniforms with MAGA hats inside the Capitol before anybody breached the Capitol. So, we know this was a setup. And the setup was, so they could say that Donald Trump ordered these or instigated these people, incited these people to commit the crime of federal trespassing on the Capitol, so that they could make him ineligible to run for president again. That was the theory, right?

Speaker 3:
[14:37] Yeah, the details of which element of the setup there were that day, whether it was actually guys, cops, putting on MAGA hats, or whether it was, there were cops or federal agents on those buses, or whether it was Antifa. There's all kinds of theories about that. But yes, the overall 30,000 foot view of the day was, is that there needed to be an event that was unprecedented, unlike anything that, let's just say, let's just call it for what it is. Most of the time that you have a violent riot in the streets of America, particularly in DC, it's left politically oriented. In this particular case, they needed a right politically oriented, instigated riot in order to accomplish the goal that you enunciated there.

Speaker 2:
[15:26] And the thing is, you don't, again, you don't have to like Donald Trump or you don't have to vote for Donald Trump to see that this is a big problem for democracy. And as I tried to explain to Cornell West when I had on my show, the reason why this matters is if they could do this to a sitting president of the United States, meaning the deep state, do this to him to get rid of him, they could do it to anybody. They could certainly do it to him. They could do it to Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein or anybody else who's close to grabbing power. They could do the, they could do this kind of subversive thing to them to get them eliminated from the election. That's my point. And that's why it doesn't matter. You could hate Donald Trump. You should still care about this, right?

Speaker 3:
[16:08] That's right. I mean, look, color revolution is something that our intelligence community and our Department of War, Department of Defense, back on January 6th, that's something that they do regularly around the world. I mean, this is not conspiracy theory. This is what they're good at. And we have elements of our intelligence community and our DOD that this they're expert at this. And so, I had a, I'll be honest with you, I had a, I was looking at something else related to January 6th. I had reason to believe there might even be deployment of certain types of directed energy weapons in the crowd that day. And so, I was looking for answers to that possibility, because by the way, they were deployed in the summer of 2020 by General Mark Milley. And we know that from a United States Park Police IG report. Actually quotes Mark Milley as having deployed both sound and heat weapons in the crowd in 2020. And then, so that's again, not conspiracy theory. It's in printing from the federal government. And so, we were looking for those elements in the January 6th crowd. So, I interviewed a retired three-star SOCOM general commander who told me, he said, yes, he said, we do have such a backpack sized and as they referred to it, agitation weapon. And this is exactly what he said. He said, with it, we can stop your heart. We can make you shit your pants. But, and the quote goes on, this is an exact quote, but I wouldn't need that for January 6th. All I would need is four or five of my best men to make that day happen.

Speaker 2:
[17:59] And we know they had hundreds of FBI and police assets undercover in the crowd. We know that that's for a fact. Also, you know, you talk about that this is what the deep state does. They do these kind of color revolutions. Well, they did almost the exact playbook to Bolsonaro in Brazil. And if you don't know who that is, he was considered the Trump of Brazil. And they had, so first, they had Lula was the president. They had to imprison him because he was not going along with the deep state and the establishment, right? So they put him in prison and Bolsonaro became president. They're like, whoops, he's a little too much far, too far to the right. And so then they had to let Bolsonaro, they had to let Lula out of prison. And they had to set up Bolsonaro in the exact same way, except it worked in Bolsonaro's case. They got him, made it illegal for him to run for president again. And then now if you notice, Bolsonaro is going along with a lot of the establishment, not all of it, but he's going, he's very pliable. In fact, Joe Biden congratulated him on when he won the presidency. So what does that tell you when a deep state tool like Joe Biden congratulates him for his win as president? That tells you he's working with them.

Speaker 3:
[19:16] It tells you that Bolsonaro wants to stay alive.

Speaker 2:
[19:19] Oh, OK. So here is, I find it funny that they accuse an ex-DCP police officer that now works for the CIA. And then magically there is a second suspect within a month after, five days actually, after there hadn't been any suspects for years. Why that way? She now works for the CIA. So she got a nice promotion, right, for doing this.

Speaker 3:
[19:44] Yeah. Actually, she was already a candidate for the CIA before January 6. She, believe it or not, Shauni Kirkoff testified. She was the first person to testify in the very first January 6th criminal trial.

Speaker 2:
[19:57] Oh, no kidding.

Speaker 3:
[19:58] That was in the summer of 22. The defendant's name was Guy Reffett. He was from Texas. And she testified in that trial. And in her direct examination, it was discovered in the preliminary introductions as they do in a trial, what's your name? Where do you work? She said, they asked her if she still worked for the Capitol Police. She said, no, but I still work for the government. And the prosecuting attorney with the government did not ask her who she worked with. Because the judge in a sidebar before they went on, and this is in the transcript, sidebar conversations with the judge and the attorneys are in the court transcripts. The judge warned them, warned both attorneys and said, we have a bunch of things about this next witness that are under seal, that you cannot talk about. Don't forget that, gentlemen. Both attorneys said, yes, your honor. Yes, your honor. And the examination began. And so what she said and what she revealed in that direct examination was that she already had her application in to her current position, CIA, which we learned later, before January 6th. So she was already a candidate for CIA on the 5th and the 6th of January 2021.

Speaker 2:
[21:17] This is all fascinating. Let me just show you. Here, this is from you. FBI reported to Congressman Loudermilk that two eyewitnesses who saw the bomber on January 5th said it was a white person. It's in the congressional record. What's his agenda? What's FBI's agenda? And why have most people said the bomber was a woman? Do they all have an agenda? Very well said, yes. So, and here, we know it's not the guy because the suspect's grandmother, Cole, told the New York Post he's almost autistic-like because he doesn't understand a lot of stuff. I hope he's not talking. She also alleged that he's very naïve. He would not hurt a fly. He's just not that kind of a person. I don't believe that all that he's not a terrorist. The grandmother told the Post that Cole works for the family's bail bondsman company, Brian Cole Bail Bonds. She added that he also worked for DoorDash for a time. He doesn't have any ties to DC. I don't even know how they included him in this. How did they include them in this, do you think?

Speaker 3:
[22:29] Well, we've actually found his car in DC at the same time that the bonds are being delivered. So his car is captured on Capitol CCTV traffic cams, and his car is a 2017 Blue Nissan Sentra. We have his VIN number, we have his license plate. With that, we were able to learn exactly the trim package of that particular model of car. And we found on Capitol TV three Blue Nissan Sentras 2017. Only one of them is the identical trim package of his car. And so we track that, and at the exact moment that the hooded bomber is on foot a mile away, we can see Brian Cole's car turning on to 395 to go back to Virginia. We believe that he was delivering DoorDash at the time, and that's why the FBI is reporting the self-towered payings on his phone.

Speaker 2:
[23:30] And so can you imagine being that kind of a despicable person, that you would frame a guy who's borderline autistic for something like this? Isn't that just, it's, what is, I just, I can't have a hard time wrapping my head, and they know they're doing it.

Speaker 3:
[23:44] They know they're doing it.

Speaker 2:
[23:46] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[23:47] And look, our sources inside the FBI, which are, which are legion, by the way, are, are all saying the same exact thing. We're not buying it. And in fact, the most recent whistleblower who came out specifically because of the rest of the arrest of Brian Cole Jr. And I'll tell you why he came out. He's a neighbor of the family and has seen Brian Cole walk his dog twice a day, every day for 10 years in his wife. And they said, he is not, he's not physically capable of being the bomber. And this is a current FBI agent. In his disclosure, he says this. And then, I know who the whistleblower is. I have interviewed the whistleblower. And the whistleblower said to me, he said, nobody in my shop is buying this arrest.

Speaker 2:
[24:41] So can you tell us, and if you can't, that's okay. Why did you get fired from The Blaze for talking about this?

Speaker 3:
[24:51] The Blaze had a genuine real fear of an existential defamation lawsuit from Shauni Kirkoff. Kirkoff did, in fact, engage, although we know that she's not paying for it. She can't possibly pay for it. The most feared and powerful defamation plaintiff law firm in the country, which is called Clarelock, and they're the company that got the $750 million judgment against Fox from the voting machine company.

Speaker 2:
[25:24] Oh, really?

Speaker 3:
[25:26] Yeah. The Blaze is not Fox News. It's not Rupert Murdoch. I mean, whereas Fox could survive a billion-dollar judgment, the Blaze would not survive a $50 million judgment. So they had me and my partner, who we haven't talked about yet, Joe Hanneman, who is just as involved in this entire investigative process as I have been for years working on this exact project. He and I have worked on this together, spent thousands of hours together on this project and a couple of other members of our team. And we were put under a muzzle within a day after the story came out about Shauni Kirkoff. That was November 8th of last year when we published that story. And within 24 hours, the company was already in panic because they were hearing from outside council that they had just subjected themselves to a possible existential lawsuit. So we were under gag order for five months. We didn't quit working on it. And I had developed and we had developed so much more evidence, Jimmy. I couldn't keep it inside anymore. And I just told Blaze I was going public with it with or without them. And so I put myself in a position where they had to fire me.

Speaker 2:
[26:42] I got. Okay. All right. Yeah. I mean, I could understand being that afraid of, you know, look what they did to Alex Jones, right? So you look at that and they could bankrupt, they could break up the blaze if they wanted probably. So. Right. Well, Steve Baker, great work. I appreciate you coming on. Thanks for not letting this story die. And do you think that the people of America will, you know, most people I talk to in Hollywood, most people here still believe Russiagate was real. And so do you think that the American people ever come to understand the truth about January 6th?

Speaker 3:
[27:25] I'm not going to let up until we reveal everything that we know and I'm going to tell you, I believe that the pipe bomb investigation, that story is the cornerstone. It is the corner card of the House of Cards and it will come crashing down when we solve this case and we put all, when we prove it to the American people. The first thing that people have to look at, just look at Brian Cole. He cannot physically be the bomber. In fact, our video expert, who has spent more time on looking at him than anybody else on the planet, including anybody else at the FBI, has said that Brian Cole Jr.'s body is his alibi.

Speaker 2:
[28:04] It doesn't match. Is he out on bail at this time?

Speaker 3:
[28:07] No, he's in jail. He's been held in jail since he was arrested the first week of December. He's autistic, highly OCD. He's like a, if you remember the movie Rain Man, he's like Five Minutes to Wapner kind of guy, very rigid oriented kind of individual. And so he's completely out of his element. And I think the DOJ is essentially torturing him to get him to break into a plea deal so that they can wipe their hands of this and say, we got our man guilty, done and done and move on.

Speaker 2:
[28:43] That's really, the government is evil. Let's all remember that. The biggest liars in the world are the government, the second is the corporate media, and third and a distant third are randos on social media. So anyway, Steve Baker, thank you for making time. Thanks for doing this and we'll keep abreast and hopefully we'll talk to you again.

Speaker 3:
[29:05] Thank you, Jimmy.

Speaker 2:
[29:05] Okay, pal. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week, and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmydore.com, clicking on Join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business, and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member, and if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Trump says enough is enough, tells Israel to halt attacks on Lebanon. Spoiler alert, they didn't. They didn't. Israel has violated the Lebanon ceasefire eight times in only 30 minutes. That's from Men Press News. I don't think they get what ceasefire means. I think that means you cease and we fire. That's how Israel interprets it. And you got to laugh about this stuff because it's horrible. And you can't, that's how Israel wins. If you stop laughing and you get depressed, they win. President Donald Trump instructed Israel to halt its attacks on Lebanon. Iran said the truth that Lebanon was the reason it elected to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Really? Israel will not be bombing Lebanon any longer. They are prohibited from doing so by the USA. Enough is enough, Trump wrote on Truth Social on Friday. He made the statement the day after he announced the US broker to ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon. There it is, USA will get all nuclear dust created by our great B-2 bombers. No money will exchange hands in any way, shape or form. This deal is in no way, this deal is in no way, I can't do a, if I could do a Trump impression. I'm sure that would help. Oh, it bothers me. Everybody and their brother can do a Trump impression. I can't do it. It's like Jack Nicholson. Everybody can do a Jack Nicholson impression. The deal is in no way subject to Lebanon either, but the USA will separately work with Lebanon and deal with the Hezbollah situation in an appropriate manner. Israel will not be bombing Lebanon any longer. They are prohibited from doing so by the USA. Okay, okay, okay. You're gonna do whatever Benjamin Net. By the way, they didn't stop, so. So what'd you do about it? Nuttin. Well, President Trump claimed Tehran's decision to reopen the Strait of Hormuz was unrelated to Lebanon. Iran said it is allowing traffic through the Strait only because of the truth. Oh, you know what? I tweeted out, I couldn't find, I was looking and looking and I'm trying to find out. Well, okay, so they opened it, but is Iran gonna still keep charging the $2 million? So I just asked this on the Twitters. And let's see if I got, I didn't get many responses. Furkan goes, Zirka, who usually knows stuff about this, he says good question. Okay, nobody knows. Really? No. In line with the ceasefire in Lebanon, the passage for all commercial vessels through Strait of Hormuz is declared completely open for the remaining period of ceasefire. Tehran said that all ships transiting the strait would need to coordinate with Iran. Okay, there it is. There's the foreign minister, Arigatji. Why do they have all the Italians running the Iranian foreign ministry? In line with the ceasefire in Lebanon, the passage for all commercial vessels and vessels through the Strait of Hormuz is declared completely open for the remaining period of ceasefire on the coordinated route as already announced by ports and Maritime Ordinance. Okay, the Iranian military said that the Strait is still close to military vessels. It's unclear if the ceasefire in Lebanon will hold for the next 10 days. Not going to. Already been broken. So we'll see. Since the start of the truce, Israel has already carried out one strike in Lebanon, killing one person. They've done more. Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed that he was still in the process of dismantling Hezbollah. We have not yet finished the job. There are things we plan to do to address the remaining rocket threat and the drone threat, he said. Oh, good for you. Trump asserted that Tehran agreed never to close the strait again and that the US blockade of Iranian ports would remain in effect until a final agreement is reached. Iran has agreed to never close. There it is. The Strait of Hormuz is completely open and ready for business and full passes, Trump wrote in a separate post. But the naval blockade will remain in full force in effect as it pertains to Iran only until such time as our transaction with Iran is 100 percent. So he's saying that we're not going to let Iran's ships through. How are you going to do that? What is exactly 100 percent of this transaction? What's the transaction? I'm going to guess to a permanent peace deal. Hey, if you're enjoying joining, if you enjoy joining the cult of drinking the Kool-Aid, wait till you try drinking the blockade. That one kills your entire economy at once. Iranian President Spokesperson Sayed Mohammed Mehdi Tabarrahi, another Italian, said that the claim that Tehran agreed not to close the strait again was baseless statements of the enemy. The conditional and limited reopening of the portion of the Strait of Hormuz is solely an Iranian initiative, one that creates responsibility and serves to test the firm commitments of the opposing side. If they renege on their promises, they will face dire consequences. While Tehran has not responded to Trump's assertion that Iran agreed to give up its nuclear material and dismantle its enrichment program, Iranian officials have stated that they are only willing to dilute their stockpile of 60% enriched uranium in exchange for total sanctions relief. So, okay, I have learned that after Netanyahu did not, this is from, this is, we had this guy in the show, right? Sayed Mohammed Mirandi. I have learned that after Netanyahu did not adhere to the ceasefire agreement last night, Iran told the United States that if the ceasefire in Lebanon were not swiftly announced, Iran would attack the Israeli regime. This increased pressure and helped lead to the ceasefire announcement. Okay, so here is, CNN is confirming that Trump was forced to order Israel to halt its bombing of Hezbollah just to get Iran to the negotiating table. Wow. The Trump administration is relying entirely on Pakistani generals to save their disastrous diplomatic collapse, total humiliation for Washington. And let's remember this is CNN, which is now Zionist owned.

Speaker 4:
[37:03] So much distrust between the sides, but Iran was clearly calling on Israel to stop bombing Hezbollah and Trump gave them that. So do you think trust is building on the Iranian side in these talks?

Speaker 5:
[37:21] I think without that, it would have made what the Pakistani field marshal, the interior minister were trying to do to move the Iranian side along. It would have made it much harder. JD Vance, the vice president, when he left here last weekend, he said, US has put down best and final offer, essentially the balls in the Iranian court. Now, the Pakistani team, the negotiators have gone to Tehran to try to sort of, if you will, move Iran forward, move that ball, if you will.

Speaker 2:
[37:51] Okey-dokey. Shabbat shalom. The ships are home. Breaking, Israel has violated us eight times. But here's a weird part of this ceasefire agreement. Wait till you hear this, Kurt. The text of temporary ceasefire between Lebanon and Israel has just been published. As always, the devil's in the details. What is the detail? That Israel shall preserve its right to take all necessary measures in self-defense at any time against planned, imminent or ongoing attacks. So even if an attack hasn't happened, Israel gets to bomb them because they can say...

Speaker 6:
[38:33] They don't have to prove it was imminent, right?

Speaker 2:
[38:35] They could just say, well, one was coming. So we had to, just like the United States when they started this war, that is, we had to bomb them first because we were pretty sure they were going to bomb us.

Speaker 6:
[38:47] And it was Israeli intelligence, the most moral and impeccable intelligence you can get, that told Trump that.

Speaker 2:
[38:53] Yes, the most moral.

Speaker 6:
[38:54] I mean, they had very accurate pictures of whatever evil thing he did to let him also persuade him.

Speaker 2:
[38:59] This shall not be impeded by the cessation of hostilities, besides this, it will not carry out any offensive military operations against Lebanese targets, including civilian military and other state targets in the territory of Lebanon by land, air or sea. Okay. Okay, sure. All right. So here, of Will Christi, this is his first impression. Do you want to hear it? First impression is that this returns Lebanon to post 2024 ceasefire status where Israel is allowed to strike where it wants in Lebanon if it deems it in self-defense, as per Article 3 of the ceasefire text. This will probably spare Beirut at the least. But it is a unique ceasefire where one side of the truce is allowed to fire on the other if it deems fit. The second point is that the talks between Israel and Lebanon are meant to lead to, colon, disarming of Hezbollah, demarcating the border between Lebanon and Israel. Both issues have been at the heart of Israel, Lebanon conflicts since 2006 and despite successive efforts have never found a solution. So we're unlikely to see a real solution to either of those issues in the 10 days ceasefire period. Yeah, we're not. What happens next? If not, a return to war, extension of the ceasefire. I'm going to guess war.

Speaker 6:
[40:23] I'm going to guess American boots on the ground, Jimmy, and it's about time.

Speaker 2:
[40:28] Really? Embarrassed the Israelis confess, they don't actually know what ceasefire means. It means you cease we fire.

Speaker 6:
[40:39] Yeah. We seize your things. You spelled it wrong. It's a seize fire.

Speaker 2:
[40:44] Seize. Yeah. Seize fire to Benjamin Netanyahu means that they're going to attack you while you're sleeping and while you aren't shooting at us because you believed us. Basically, that's it. The Talmud tells us that we can do whatever we want because even though we kill children for fun, mentally and emotionally, we are also children. So, yeah. There it is. Iran has announced that the Strait of Iran, he says Strait of Iran, he calls it. So that's how you know he's in a good mood.

Speaker 6:
[41:13] Was that part of the deal, the ceasefire? He has to call it the Strait of Iran, the way we say Gulf of America.

Speaker 2:
[41:18] Yeah, I think so. Glenn Greenwald, so Ann Coulter, she was with Trump, right? First couple of months of his presidency, she said, every day I wake up, it's like Christmas, Trump's doing everything I want. Now she's back to hating him. She says, yay, the strait that was open before we began bombing Iran open is open again. Everybody pretend this is a huge victory for Trump and he'll end this catastrophe.

Speaker 6:
[41:47] Was the goal to get a bunch of Israelis killed because that's what they have achieved with this, besides all the people they killed in Arab countries, which I don't, you know, that's like three to one value.

Speaker 2:
[41:54] Yeah, you're not supposed to care about them. That's your bad person. Seriously, organize a victory parade for Trump and the Rose Garden for getting the strait of Iran open for the first time in history. Then give him another bust of his head in the shape of some tacky Churchill bus sitting on Mark Levin's Fox shelf and call it a day. Call it a day. So the Iran embassy tweeted this out. Bad mood, it's called the Strait of Trump. Normal mood, it's the Strait of Hormuz. Good mood, Strait of Iran.

Speaker 6:
[42:24] Yeah, they have a Trump alert level now.

Speaker 2:
[42:27] The ceasefire has happened, but there is no ceasefire on roasting. The Iran embassy is on full savage mode and Trump is delivering comedy without a script. The ceasefire is on the ground, but on Twitter, a meme war is still going on. It's a hot war on Iran.

Speaker 6:
[42:43] I didn't think that like all the good zingers were going to come from the Iran embassy in Zimbabwe.

Speaker 2:
[42:46] Who did? I didn't even know they knew what comedy was.

Speaker 6:
[42:50] I mean, well, I mean, if you don't know what it is now, how are you going to ever?

Speaker 2:
[42:55] This is nice. So they give Trump the gold medal. He checks to make sure it's okay. Look, they're giving the he's popping the champagne. But when you look at it, he's not the winner.

Speaker 6:
[43:07] Iran is that he destroyed China with this move. It's five D chess to really hurt China.

Speaker 2:
[43:13] So this idea. So there's an idea floating around, Kurt. I'm sure you've seen it, that this is Trump doing five D chess and he wants to strangle. He wants to collapse. Rick Scott said this on Fox News last night. He said, hey, if the Chinese economy collapses over this shortage of oil, then I don't care. Well, I think just like the reason why we can't go to war with China is they make all our stuff.

Speaker 6:
[43:43] Yeah, I still don't get how we're trying to destroy a thing we trade with, that we escort their oil to them. Like our phones and viruses and shoes. Let's stop dealing with business with them if we hate them.

Speaker 2:
[43:54] We found out during COVID we can't even make masks. And if the Chinese economy collapses, doesn't that mean Walmart's economy collapses? If they are not able to make stuff, doesn't that mean Walmart's not able to sell stuff?

Speaker 6:
[44:09] I gotta see what Tim Pool says first.

Speaker 2:
[44:11] I gotta see. I know I'm getting it wrong.

Speaker 6:
[44:14] Do you know there's a million reasons Erika Kirk didn't show up to that thing? A million.

Speaker 2:
[44:19] We're gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about it.

Speaker 6:
[44:23] First a thousand, then a million. Tons of reasons.

Speaker 2:
[44:26] Yeah, tons of reasons. That they're tracking her planes. That's the problem. Well, guess what? Everybody can track any plane anytime. So we're gonna talk about that.

Speaker 6:
[44:36] What?

Speaker 2:
[44:37] Yes, you know that, right?

Speaker 6:
[44:38] They're tracking the planes? Who is it?

Speaker 2:
[44:41] That's what they're saying. No, no, the threat, because everybody was like...

Speaker 6:
[44:44] Iran probably, Iran. Because they know our real leaders are punks and they don't do anything. They're probably trying to go right to the source.

Speaker 2:
[44:49] Because the lie was that, oh no, the threat wasn't at the event. The threat was that they were tracking her travel. Well, they can do that. First of all, they've been doing it. Second of all, they can do it forever. So this threat is never going to end. So is she just going to stay Shabbat Shalom at home?

Speaker 6:
[45:05] Can her NSA mother help her?

Speaker 2:
[45:07] Right? She's going to stay Shabbat Shalom at home with her kids.

Speaker 6:
[45:10] Oh yeah, Shalom at home, as the great Rabbi Shmuley used to say.

Speaker 2:
[45:17] Candace Owens responds to JD Vance. So you saw JD Vance and he told people to stop criticizing Erika. And that's why she's getting death threats? It's the craziest.

Speaker 6:
[45:28] Wait, the thing the stupid Wokeys used to say?

Speaker 2:
[45:30] Yep.

Speaker 6:
[45:31] And AOC?

Speaker 2:
[45:31] Stochastic terrorism?

Speaker 6:
[45:33] What a surprise. I wonder what the common factor is in all those awful movements. Oh, but it's Israel.

Speaker 2:
[45:39] Remember when AOC accused me of committing stochastic violence on her?

Speaker 6:
[45:46] If you tell people I suck and then something should happen to me when they find out I suck, that's on you, Jimmy.

Speaker 2:
[45:51] So let's watch this. Here's Erika's clap back. Oh, my gosh. Maybe I do. Oh, I think I might. Okay. Yes. JD Vance said it was the most preposterous thing he'd ever seen in politics. But unless he said it was categorically the most preposterous thing he had seen in politics in a very long time, it could still be true because he hasn't seen very much in politics.

Speaker 6:
[46:18] That's right. Categorically.

Speaker 2:
[46:20] Categorically. Okay.

Speaker 6:
[46:22] Here's the category of I'm not talking about other shit.

Speaker 2:
[46:25] Here's what Candace said.

Speaker 7:
[46:27] Shame on JD Vance for taking the bait on that in response to Andrew Colbett's questioning. He's going to lecture us. He's going to come in and he's going to lecture us. Take a listen to what JD Vance has to say.

Speaker 8:
[46:37] Again, if your instinct is to go after not the left wing radicals who are assaulting Savannah or not the people who shot Charlie Kirk, but if your instinct is to go after a young mother because she's grieving in a way.

Speaker 2:
[46:48] By the way, young mother, she's 37. She's not 18.

Speaker 3:
[46:54] Stop acting like she doesn't have any agency.

Speaker 2:
[46:56] She's not 18. She's not 22. She's not even 28. She's 37. Millionaire.

Speaker 6:
[47:03] She's young for a mother of darkness in that culture.

Speaker 2:
[47:05] Yes. She's almost middle-aged.

Speaker 6:
[47:08] For a witch.

Speaker 2:
[47:09] Doesn't 40 make you middle-aged? Well, you're certainly middle-aged. Let's call Don Lemon. Let's get Don Lemon on this, because I'm pretty sure if you are 40, you are past your prime, that's for sure. Misha, sorry to break it to you. You're past your prime.

Speaker 6:
[47:25] Nikki Haley, Don Lemon knows one thing for sure. Nobody likes a MILF.

Speaker 2:
[47:30] Don Lemon ought to know. Here we go.

Speaker 8:
[47:34] You find wrong. Well, why don't you stay in your lane and mind your own business? Grief is complicated.

Speaker 2:
[47:39] Grief is complicated.

Speaker 7:
[47:41] Grief is complicated.

Speaker 8:
[47:42] You know, so, there's enough-

Speaker 2:
[47:45] So JD Vance doesn't find anything wrong with the way Erika Kirk is grieving. Sure, he married a woman from another culture, but deep down inside, he wants to see that tall American blonde ass shaking like a sack of potatoes up there on stage. Am I right? Come on.

Speaker 6:
[48:00] Wait, does he mean complicated because of all the pyrotechnics? You got to get the fire inspector in?

Speaker 2:
[48:04] That's why it's complicated.

Speaker 6:
[48:05] That's what complicates grieving.

Speaker 2:
[48:07] All right, let's start it again.

Speaker 7:
[48:08] There's a lot of shame on JD Vance for taking the bait on that in response to Andrew Colvett's questioning. He's going to lecture us. He's going to come in and he's going to lecture us. Take a listen to what JD Vance has to say.

Speaker 8:
[48:18] Again, if your instinct is to go after not the left-wing radicals who are assaulting Savannah or not the people who shot Charlie Kirk, but if your instinct is to go after a young mother because she's grieving in a way that you find wrong, well, why don't you stay in your lane and mind your own business? Grief is complicated and I just...

Speaker 7:
[48:37] Grief is complicated.

Speaker 2:
[48:38] It's complicated.

Speaker 8:
[48:40] There's another angle of this, Andrew, which is just so absurd, which is that people will say that, Erika, she's been doing this or she's been doing that, and I would be doing something different. And it's like, first of all, that's fine. If you want to criticize somebody because you have a disagreement, disagree with my politics, disagree with something that Erika or Andrew say on the Turning Point podcast, we do this desire to go after her for the way she's grieving her husband. That's the most preposterous thing I've seen in a very long time. And I've seen a lot of crazy stuff in politics.

Speaker 2:
[49:09] Just like just like what you just called me a preposterous liar.

Speaker 6:
[49:13] When when someone has to go to go. Yeah. What did you say that was so preposterous?

Speaker 2:
[49:19] I said that he wanted he was for bombing Syria, which I then was when he called me a preposterous liar, I produced a video of him and I debating it. On camera for about 20 minutes and he was for bombing Syria. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. I buried the hatchet with Jenke Uygur. I no longer have any bad feelings toward him. And that's true. I don't.

Speaker 6:
[49:39] I mean, things are a little bigger now than just, you know, I don't know, it's the magic horse, you know.

Speaker 2:
[49:45] I'm glad that he found a war that he's against finally. And so that's fantastic. He's against Gaza and now two wars and Iran. So he's two for two now since, you know, this year.

Speaker 6:
[49:55] Great job.

Speaker 2:
[49:55] Great job. So here's what Candace has to say.

Speaker 7:
[49:58] OK, first off, we do criticize them all the time for what they say on the podcast. The whole public has been doing that actually since everything happened. Please stop saying this repeat phrase that everyone grieves differently. Doesn't matter how many times you say it doesn't make it true. OK, you can't just say stuff. Everybody grieves differently. Yeah, no, for sure. Everyone that I know does this. No one. That's why it stands out to people and people go, this is strange. Most people would fear going out. They would want to be closer to their kids. Stop trying to constantly feed us this slup. But the audacity to say something, like he just said, he said that it was the most preposterous thing that he has seen in politics in a very long time. People criticizing Erika Kirk. That's the most preposterous thing he's seen in politics in a very long time. Disagreeing with the new CEO and chairman. This is not just a widow. This is the new CEO and chairman of TPUSA, a position that she did not earn, nothing that she has done, warrant her being in that position. And that to him is like, whoa, I can't believe people are doing this. I've seen some preposterous things just over the last few weeks in politics that should probably rank higher on your list. Okay, like when you guys blew up that school, 150 Iranian schoolgirls were killed and then you lied about it. That to me feels a little more preposterous. And it was not just even two days ago that Trump said that he thought Jesus was a Red Cross doctor. That was a little preposterous. Y'all just out here lying about things. I don't know, the Epstein files? Did you have time to go through them, Mr. Vice President? Nothing in there ranked more preposterous for you than us criticizing Erika Kirk. How about Trump just generally attacking a pope because he's calling for peace? How about Trump saying that Brigitte Macron is hot? That's pretty preposterous, that she's got it. It's not even close.

Speaker 2:
[51:26] Brigitte Macron is like, she's like a thinner Pete Rose with a wig. Here we go. I tell you what, she always runs it out the first base. That's what I like about her.

Speaker 6:
[51:39] I like she's got the body of David Spade and the face of Pete Rose.

Speaker 2:
[51:46] They call her Brigitte Hussle.

Speaker 6:
[51:49] Here we go.

Speaker 7:
[51:50] The federal ticket you guys ran on was calling for peace. Now you're attacking the Pope or Trump is attacking the Pope because he's calling for peace. That feels pretty preposterous. Going to war with the explicit aim of opening the straight of our muse, which was already opened before you began the war, is pretty preposterous. Gas prices right now are pretty preposterous. Us criticizing a grieving widow who can't keep her story straight about anything? No, that's not. That shouldn't even hit your radar. So please do not lecture us, JD. Do not. The lecture that is coming from you is exactly why we don't like Erika. Because we see it for exactly what it is. It's elite. She has money and connections. She can call Vice President JD Vance. She can get the Secretary Scott Besant to issue a letter on demand, demanding you stop looking into their finances. She can get Trump to say how much Charlie loved her in his Easter speech. It's the balcony approach that makes us sick. We feel it. You guys looking down the crowd like we're animals, and you're somehow more dignified. Okay, Mr. Vice President, respectfully, our friends aren't in the Epstein files, and I have enough common sense to know that the reason we refer to it as common sense is because it's shared amongst the commoners, us, the majority. Right now, the left and the right, the Internet, we have correctly identified the nature of your friend, Erika Kirk, so please, I beg of you, we are seven months into this thing. Please do not give us more bed slap. We have had our fill. If it is truly your desire to transform hearts and minds about Erika, might I very humbly suggest that you start with a story that makes sense about September 10th? What happened? One that doesn't feature magical bullets and Superman necks and trannies that write out entire confessions in the spirit of a Jane Austen novel, my love? One which doesn't feature company employees who witnessed the shooting and, for some incomprehensible reason, neglect to call 911 but instead rush to remove cameras within minutes? That would be my advice. Rather than lecturing us from a balcony, string together a coherent story and a timeline. For The Commoners, please and thank you.

Speaker 2:
[53:45] And you're welcome. So even Steven Zionist-controlled Barry Weiss-headed CBS News is calling out her garbage. Secret Service determines no credible threats to UGA rally after Erika Kirk's cancellation. That's from CBS News. That's the Larry Ellison-controlled Barry Weiss-headed, you know, the toady. So Candace responds to this. Let me read it to you. To recap, Erika Kirk flew into Athens, Georgia. We played Athens, Georgia, fun place, from Palm Beach on Tuesday. And by the way, these are all private plane. They fly around in private jets. Isn't that fantastic?

Speaker 6:
[54:33] But her life is in danger, and people keep tracking it. And if you talk about it, you're putting her life in danger.

Speaker 2:
[54:38] Don't talk about it. So she went from Palm Beach to Athens on Tuesday after a weekend bridal shower at Mar-a-Lago. She flew in aboard a massive apartment-sized jet owned by Vegas billionaires. She's on fire for God. She landed into a terminal which had been secured since Monday by our nation's secret service. There was both a military and police presence waiting at the terminal to escort the vice president who was due to land about an hour and 30 minutes after her. After learning of the crowd size, Erika decided she no longer wanted to do the event. Rather than simply canceling, she instructed her PR team. Boy, that has got to be an ironic moniker. A PR team? They're like the reverse PR team. To make up a demented lie about imminent threats against her travel safety. Again, she was already in Georgia. Sitting upon a federally cleared pathway, her PR agent and vice president then shamelessly lectured the audience about these invisible threats, suggesting they were the public's fault for having criticized her, utterly indefensible and psychopathic.

Speaker 6:
[55:56] Wait, quick question. PR means Puerto Ricans, right?

Speaker 2:
[55:58] I think so.

Speaker 6:
[55:59] Puerto Rican team.

Speaker 2:
[56:00] Puerto Rican team.

Speaker 6:
[56:06] I don't know. It's not safe.

Speaker 2:
[56:09] That's what Mel Gibson would call it. Anyway, so good for Erika, good for Candace. Oh, Candace's show. I'm loving I'm loving Candace's show.

Speaker 6:
[56:23] It's almost great. Again, if you don't like her, who cares? I want to know what these fuckers did. That's right.

Speaker 2:
[56:29] I'm with you.

Speaker 6:
[56:30] I don't have any bad feelings about Candace, but if I did, I would still want to hear this.

Speaker 2:
[56:33] I still want to. Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[56:35] I'm certainly on the team. TP USA and Charlie, it's really unfair that a guy a little bit got to open his eyes and they whacked him and they whacked him. And I feel for him for that. But let's face facts. TP USA was always a big bunch of bullshit run by psychopath Intel Zionists. So it's already been a fucked thing and you'd be an idiot to follow it. It's just now people can see that better.

Speaker 2:
[56:58] Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this?

Speaker 9:
[57:02] Hey, this is Vice President JD Vance. Thanks for acknowledging me.

Speaker 2:
[57:08] Mr. Vice President, nice of you to call. How are you?

Speaker 9:
[57:14] I'm doing really well. Thanks for asking. I just got back from Islamabad for the peace talks with Iran, where I accomplished absolutely nothing, then went straight to Georgia to Attorney Point USA event, which of course was another exercise in pointlessness. So I'm really getting back to first principles here, which is not really doing anything as VEEP and simply just talking shit.

Speaker 2:
[57:40] I see that must feel nice.

Speaker 9:
[57:43] Oh, Jimmy, it feels really good to get back to your calling. Oh, there's nothing like it.

Speaker 2:
[57:48] So who are you talking shit about these days?

Speaker 9:
[57:51] The Pope, mainly.

Speaker 2:
[57:54] The Supreme Pontiff, the Bishop of Rome. You're really aiming high.

Speaker 9:
[57:59] Yeah, in a way, there's no one higher if you think about it. This might be the most ambitious shit talking project of mine yet. But if anyone is up for the challenge, that's me. The sheer arrogance and hubris of an adult Catholic convert turning around and criticizing the Pope for articulating a basic preference for peace over war is astonishing even for me.

Speaker 2:
[58:23] Yeah, that's a pretty tall order, calling out the Pope for literally saying, blessed are the peacemakers, which is a direct quote of Jesus.

Speaker 9:
[58:32] Exactly, Jimmy. We in the Trump administration are devout Christians who love war and cruelty. So we need to distance ourselves from these peace and love pussy ass pseudo-Christians. And if that includes the literal Pope, so be it. I am ready to talk shit.

Speaker 2:
[58:50] And not just talk shit, but threaten.

Speaker 9:
[58:53] That's true. I did take the shit talking to the next level with Pope Leo. I said that he should probably be careful.

Speaker 2:
[59:03] And what did you mean by that?

Speaker 9:
[59:06] Well, the clear indication there is that he doesn't know what he's talking about and that we in the Trump administration know more about theology than he does. How I don't know. I guess just intuition. And for the Pope to just spout off about war and peace like he's doing is sort of dangerous. He should be careful.

Speaker 2:
[59:26] Wait, wait. Dangerous for whom?

Speaker 9:
[59:30] For him. For the Pope.

Speaker 2:
[59:32] How do you mean?

Speaker 9:
[59:34] Well, I think we've all seen Donald Trump's willingness to affect regime change when necessary. Currently in Iran, previously in Venezuela, next year in Cuba, we will remove leaders that are not in our interest. And Vatican City is technically a country that is ruled by the Pope.

Speaker 2:
[59:53] Are you insinuating that the Trump administration might invade Vatican City and remove Pope Leo and install a new Pope?

Speaker 9:
[60:00] I mean, things like that did happen in the Middle Ages. For a while, there were two Popes because a lot of people didn't like the first Pope. So a second Pope came along. I mean, maybe there should be more than one Pope now, like a second Pope who was cool with war and killing and other awesome stuff.

Speaker 2:
[60:18] Okay. But should the United States government be involved in the papacy like this?

Speaker 9:
[60:25] No, but why stop now? It's kind of too late to be normal.

Speaker 2:
[60:29] I see your point, I guess. Hey, but between this and Trump's recent retweet of a meme depicting him as Jesus, don't you think that your administration is losing favor with Christians?

Speaker 9:
[60:42] Not really. I mean, let's be real here. Trump deleted that tweet and said he thought it was him as a doctor, and I think that's pretty obviously the case. I mean, when I picture a doctor, I definitely picture a benevolent sleep paralysis demon with absolutely no medical instruments on his person. Jimmy, people are just being silly about this. Christians love us and what we're doing.

Speaker 2:
[61:08] You sure about that?

Speaker 9:
[61:10] Jimmy, I am confident if Jesus came back today, he would absolutely be behind this administration 100 percent, and would fully support whatever regime change war President Trump feels like doing.

Speaker 2:
[61:24] What if he didn't though? What if Jesus came back and was critical of the Trump administration?

Speaker 9:
[61:31] Hypothetically, I suppose we would have to have a conversation.

Speaker 2:
[61:37] With Jesus Christ?

Speaker 9:
[61:41] Yeah, I mean, if Jesus came back and started saying ignorant shit because he's new to the 21st century and doesn't understand geopolitics, I suppose I'd have to talk shit about him.

Speaker 2:
[61:54] About Jesus, Jesus, about Jesus Christ.

Speaker 9:
[61:59] Yeah, I mean, he is like one higher than the Pope, if you think about it. Yeah, that would be pretty daring shit talking. But you know what? If he insists on being a peace Jesus, like all that gay turn the other cheek bullshit, most Christians would be on my side. Christianity has moved on from the teachings of Jesus.

Speaker 2:
[62:23] Christians would be on your side against Jesus. I see.

Speaker 9:
[62:29] I mean, when you say it like that, it does sound crazy.

Speaker 2:
[62:33] Yeah, it does.

Speaker 9:
[62:35] Well, I'll tell you what, when he comes back, we can see how it shakes out.

Speaker 2:
[62:39] When he comes back?

Speaker 9:
[62:42] I mean, that is sort of what Pete Hegseth and the other evangelicals in the administration are going for with this Iran-Israel situation. They want to meet Jesus, so they're starting the final war in the Middle East to trigger the end time. As a Catholic, I'm not so much into that Armageddon rapture stuff, but I'm not opposed to it either.

Speaker 2:
[63:01] Well, that's beyond terrifying.

Speaker 9:
[63:04] Well, like I said, Jimmy, it's too late to be normal. These are frightening times. All we can do as Americans is pray to the God that we also wish to theologically challenge and to obey the government and just do what you're told. Oh, and don't forget to file your taxes tonight. These Jesus-bait wars aren't cheap. Okay, Jimmy, got to go. Hope I made you and your listeners feel better about everything.

Speaker 2:
[63:30] Okay, thanks, buddy. Hey, become a premium member, go to jimmydorecomedy.com. Sign up, it's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McCray. He can be found at MikeMcCray.com.