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Speaker 1:
[00:00] So obviously, I have all these photos of Bubber on my Apple Watch.

Speaker 2:
[00:04] I don't think we're recording.

Speaker 3:
[00:05] No, we are recording.

Speaker 1:
[00:07] This, this keeps in, keeps in mind. This child, I forgot how much she would always be smiling.

Speaker 2:
[00:14] She's a smiley little girl.

Speaker 1:
[00:15] She always smiled.

Speaker 2:
[00:17] Still smiles.

Speaker 1:
[00:18] Look at her.

Speaker 2:
[00:18] I love her smiles right now, though.

Speaker 1:
[00:21] Do you think her boys can look like this?

Speaker 2:
[00:22] Because she has one like tooth that's a little longer, and it's so cute.

Speaker 1:
[00:25] No, Bubbs, I wanna go see her.

Speaker 2:
[00:26] I know, me too. Okay, ready?

Speaker 1:
[00:29] Are we ready?

Speaker 3:
[00:30] We are.

Speaker 2:
[00:31] Okay, you ready, H? Phone, we're just, let's have the vibe so high with you having, you giving me your phone will be the highest vibe.

Speaker 1:
[00:37] Okay. It was texting my mom.

Speaker 2:
[00:38] The highest, most achievable vibe is I have the mobile. Okay. Ready? Welcome back to another episode of Two Parents & A Podcast. Happy Monday if you're listening to this on Monday, because let me tell you what, boys, this is gonna be a fun episode. We have so much to cover. Number one, we're doing The Night Before I Get Induced episode. So we're recording this Friday night, and I obviously just, well, I haven't posted it yet. Okay. I'm gonna post it while we're on the podcast, but we're also going to announce that we got married this week. Yahoo! Yay! Which we're very excited about, so we're gonna talk about it all. So we did this the night before we had Tate as well, because when you get induced, if you haven't had the baby yet, then you know the time. So we know tomorrow, 7 a.m., we go to the hospital and we get induced. So the night before Tate, we recorded an episode all about how we were feeling. And so we're gonna do that again tonight, and which is such a beautiful thing for you and I to have. I can't wait to listen back to this in 10, 20 years. But the other thing we're gonna talk about first is why we got married, if we're still having the wedding, all of those things. And, okay, so what else am I gonna tell you? Because this is the last time we're gonna talk to you guys for a while. So in this episode, we're going through Second Kid, how we're feeling the night before, and then we're going through the wedding. What? So then...

Speaker 1:
[02:04] Listener questions.

Speaker 2:
[02:05] Listener questions as well. But then I'm going on maternity leave. So the episode you guys can expect, we're gonna do some housekeeping really quickly, is what?

Speaker 3:
[02:16] Sleeping and Soothing with Dr. Ari.

Speaker 2:
[02:18] Yes, yes, a very good one. Sleeping and Soothing with Dr. Ari.

Speaker 3:
[02:22] Introduction, sibling introductions with Dr. Becky Kennedy.

Speaker 2:
[02:26] Yes, we talked all about... What do Harrison...

Speaker 1:
[02:29] I'm trying to guide the prompt for questions.

Speaker 3:
[02:31] Oh, give me another second.

Speaker 2:
[02:33] Yeah, well, honey, hold on. So, okay, so Harrison interviewed Dr. Brown, all about sleeping and soothing. And that episode, like we learned a ton in. Then we interviewed Dr. Becky this week, all about introducing. And when I tell you, we formulated a plan on the podcast. Like we learned so much about introducing a sibling into the equation.

Speaker 1:
[02:55] I did one of the things this morning with Bubba.

Speaker 2:
[02:57] You did?

Speaker 1:
[02:58] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[02:58] We also learned though, a lot about having a newborn. So like we kind of touched on a lot of different things with her, that episode, just so much knowledge. And then we're going to do a Q&A, maybe two Q&A episodes with Harrison, which I cannot wait to listen to. So I'll be asking you guys on my story to submit questions. We'll do it on the pod, Instagram account, and so you guys will dump the questions. He'll tell you about the birth. He'll tell you, he'll be here to spill all the beans.

Speaker 3:
[03:22] That's for you to tell. And we have Kyle and Courtney, Lactation's Vespa.

Speaker 2:
[03:27] Lactation Consultants. Okay, this is just a knowledge podcast now. Everything you need to know, from sleeping to introducing your baby to their new sibling to, yeah, the lactation. And I went home and I measured my nipple size and I was using a flange, how many inches too big? Like double the size.

Speaker 1:
[03:47] Such a unique saying. I went home and measured my nipple size and the flange was millimeters.

Speaker 2:
[03:53] That's what it was. Thank you for telling everybody about that.

Speaker 1:
[03:55] Good that we are not putting.

Speaker 2:
[03:59] No, we're not. We are not. But that's all the episodes we've learned so much. So that's what you guys can look forward to. Additionally, the Harrison Q&A episode. All right, let's dive into it. Enough housekeeping off the top.

Speaker 3:
[04:11] Submit questions in the comments.

Speaker 2:
[04:14] Four of H-Town.

Speaker 1:
[04:16] I feel like over the past week, my brain has been just like going at a million miles an hour. Okay? And yesterday when I was playing golf, it was very, very telling in me losing five balls in the first two holes. Like, this week has just been completely, it's been back to back nonstop on so many fronts, from obviously the wedding to Prep for Baby 2 to work stuff to recording. And it feels like now, like for the first time, I'm like slowing my brain down. So I'm very excited for this episode. And I'm not even caring the kids. I can only imagine how you're feeling.

Speaker 2:
[05:01] Yeah. Well, tomorrow, guess what you get to do? We get to sit at the hospital all day. And hopefully, it's not quite the war zone that it was last time. But I'm with you. It just feels like, ooh, we've made it here. We made it to Friday afternoon.

Speaker 1:
[05:16] The weekend is beginning. They're starting the home. And I think we may need to live discuss this. The plan is for them to start the backyard renovations on Tuesday, which feels like a crazy move.

Speaker 2:
[05:28] I know. Just hammering in the house.

Speaker 1:
[05:30] And you keep saying to start. But should we pivot that back a little bit?

Speaker 2:
[05:34] No, just there's no time like the present.

Speaker 1:
[05:35] Jules?

Speaker 3:
[05:37] I'm not involved.

Speaker 1:
[05:38] It feels like it's crazy for us to get home. If we get home Monday, and then they just start digging on Tuesday.

Speaker 3:
[05:43] Yeah, but it's outside, and these babies apparently can sleep through anything. Whatever.

Speaker 2:
[05:48] Yeah, I think it's fine.

Speaker 3:
[05:49] It's so Alex.

Speaker 2:
[05:50] Yeah, I just think if we delay it, then when is a good time, and there's never a good time, so you just start.

Speaker 3:
[05:55] You just start. What's 75 days from now? You want the pool before the end of summer.

Speaker 1:
[06:00] All right, as long as we have it on record, that this was not everyone bought into this.

Speaker 2:
[06:07] Correct. You have my full green light.

Speaker 1:
[06:09] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[06:10] All right, let's talk about the wedding.

Speaker 1:
[06:11] Let's do it. Do you want me to kick it off or do you want to?

Speaker 2:
[06:15] You can kick it off.

Speaker 1:
[06:16] So I guess the first question is, do you feel any different?

Speaker 2:
[06:21] So it's funny. We felt married. We talked about this all the time. We definitely felt married, but there were moments where I would refer to you like, oh, my husband's coming in, just because I didn't want to be like my fiance or my boyfriend, right? Because like I have a kid with you and I'm about to have two kids with you. But the other day, because we had already tied the knot yesterday, we had somebody over at the house helping me do something. And I was like, my husband will hand you that. And it was just like this exhale. I was like, that is actually my husband. So I don't feel so different, but it does feel like the circle is complete.

Speaker 1:
[06:55] Yeah, to build off of that, we feel married, we act married. It got to a point for me of feeling weird that we weren't married. And so it's what felt right. It's what felt like we needed to do. And I was so excited for us to actually finally do it. And I don't think we've actually said it yet on this episode, but I think what the main question mark ultimately was is like, we wanted to have a big wedding and we want to celebrate our love and bring together our friends and family to either Austin or another amazing city. But we just reached the point of like we shouldn't need to have to wait for that celebration of love to actually make things official.

Speaker 2:
[07:36] Right.

Speaker 1:
[07:37] And so we got to make things official. And what better time to do it than before number two comes along?

Speaker 2:
[07:44] Yeah. And Harrison said, you came to me and you're like, I want you to have the same last name as the rest of us when we bring this baby into the world. And I was like, you know what? Same. Like, do I want? I felt conflicted because I was like, I really want to have the wedding and I want to celebrate the love and I want to have our friends and family come and do that with us. Like, I do want that. But what's the most important thing to me is our family unit. And so Harrison proposed, proposed, pun intended, proposed. He was like, what about if we make it official now, but we still do the wedding? And I was like, perfect. So just so you guys know, we did it in our pajamas.

Speaker 1:
[08:21] In the photos, you'll see.

Speaker 2:
[08:22] We quite literally wore our pajamas. It was glorious. And it was, and I didn't even wear makeup. It was fab, it was fabulous.

Speaker 1:
[08:29] It was really fun.

Speaker 2:
[08:29] And we had breakfast for dinner. And it was so special. And it was really sweet. And Bubbs had her silver jammies, Harrison had black, I had white. It was like, honestly, I would say it was perfect. And it was full of joy. 91% of dog parents say their pup is an important member of their family. 40% would even save their dog over a human stranger. Safe to say, people are obsessed with their dogs, you guys. And if anyone gets being dog obsessed, it's Ollie. They're relentless about delivering the best food and experience for you and your dog. And they give you a way to check in on their health over and over and over again. Let's talk about the food. Ollie's fresh recipes are developed by real chefs and backed by vet nutritionists. There's an end to end experience. So from the moment you start your subscription, everything is tailored to your pup. And there's health check ins. With Ollie, you don't just get food. Through their app, you can actually check in on your dog's health with real vets, you guys. So get ready for both you and your pup to be obsessed. Head to ollie.com/twoparents, tell them all about your dog and use code Two Parents to get 70 percent off your welcome kit when you subscribe today. Plus, they offer an obsession guarantee. If you're not completely obsessed, you'll get your money back. That's ollie.com/twoparents and enter code Two Parents to get 70 percent off your first box. Okay, so let's tie a knot, pun intended, on the wedding here. So we got married. Obviously, I've changed my last name on Instagram and things like that, and for the people that have changed your last name, you know that's gonna take me a very long time, but we're just moving things right along. So no, my name is not legally changed yet, but the most legal way you can change your name is change your Instagram handle, as far as I'm concerned, so we've done that. Bear with me through this difficult time of the underscore that I'm dealing with. We have both usernames. We've got them all secured. We just need meta to transfer it. So right now, I have an underscore. What else do we say? I don't have much of a brand. I need you to help me here. So we got married. We're still having a wedding. We're still having bachelor and bachelorette parties. That's what I'm very excited about. So we're still gonna do all the celebratory things, but we just, I would say to wrap it up, like we just wanted to do it and make it official before our little boy joins us tomorrow.

Speaker 1:
[10:49] Yeah, I'm so happy we did, and I'm so proud to be married to you and to keep building our family.

Speaker 2:
[10:54] Same, and one thing Harrison said was, if we don't do it this week, like we are not gonna do it until the wedding. And I think you were right about that.

Speaker 1:
[11:01] Yeah, it felt like we had a really clean line in the sand on either now or later, and there was no time like the current.

Speaker 2:
[11:11] Yeah, like we weren't gonna go postpartum, so it was a good deadline for us. So anyways, we did it, we were filled with joy, we're very happy that we did it, and we will still be wedding planning, which I'm very excited about. It's funny, I'm more excited about wedding planning now than I was.

Speaker 1:
[11:30] Yeah, because the planning is focused on celebration, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2:
[11:36] Yeah, that does make sense. It's not this nerve-wracking weight, logistic, it's more of like you're planning a party.

Speaker 1:
[11:43] You're literally planning a three-day party.

Speaker 2:
[11:46] Yeah, for your friends and family. Okay, that's the view. So we wanted to just be as fun as possible, and now, okay, here's what I'll say though, let's talk about this live, because the question is, do you have a ceremony? For sure. I would like to have a ceremony, I would like us to read vows, but I'd also like to do what you said, which is have a dance break in the middle.

Speaker 1:
[12:06] Yeah, and we can give more color on that at a point in the future.

Speaker 2:
[12:09] Yeah, but we'll have, I think that would be very fun, so like a very, I want people to know, sometimes ceremonies are formal, this would be not that.

Speaker 1:
[12:18] Yeah, well, Bub's, very important to Bub's, that-

Speaker 2:
[12:22] Bub's needs a dance break.

Speaker 1:
[12:23] That she gets a dance break.

Speaker 2:
[12:24] Because she had a dance break. Yeah, it was really cute. And she's just, this morning, we were all sitting on the bed and we started playing trumpets by, is it Jason Nerulo?

Speaker 1:
[12:35] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[12:35] Yeah. And she just danced, she just was dance breaking it down. She's so cute. She loves to dance. So we'll, yeah. And then the other thing I'm wondering, for my push present, I know you're resetting my ring.

Speaker 1:
[12:49] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[12:50] And I know that takes a while. So maybe your new deadline could be the real wedding.

Speaker 1:
[12:55] That is the fairest deadline of all deadlines.

Speaker 2:
[12:58] Like that's a little too far away from me. We could maybe like a little sooner, but.

Speaker 1:
[13:02] Yeah, I think that I got to, of all requests, that was the easiest one ever.

Speaker 2:
[13:09] What?

Speaker 1:
[13:10] To have it reset by the actual wedding.

Speaker 2:
[13:12] Okay, maybe you have it reset by the end of the pool. Which is 75 days.

Speaker 1:
[13:17] I have a lady, so.

Speaker 2:
[13:18] You do? So also Harrison's wedding ring right now is one of those workout bands. We ordered it on DoorDash.

Speaker 1:
[13:24] Oh my God, I'm not wearing it.

Speaker 2:
[13:25] We DoorDashed the wedding band. It's called a quait. What's it called?

Speaker 1:
[13:29] How much trouble are you going to get in?

Speaker 3:
[13:30] None.

Speaker 2:
[13:31] None. Because we haven't, I haven't had him wearing it the past day and a half because I didn't want to knowing me, you guys, I will take a photo on Instagram and post it and then people.

Speaker 1:
[13:39] We were also like, we had an event earlier today and I asked, I was like, do you want me to wear it to the event?

Speaker 2:
[13:44] I was like, no.

Speaker 1:
[13:45] Because we haven't told people at the event yet.

Speaker 2:
[13:46] Well, the last thing I wanted to do was make an event about us.

Speaker 1:
[13:49] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[13:50] That would be terrible. So I was like, no, we can't wear it. But now I've thought about it. The deadline for my wedding band is.

Speaker 1:
[14:00] Here's what we're going to do. See that gold bracelet you're wearing?

Speaker 2:
[14:03] You want me to put it on your head?

Speaker 1:
[14:04] Pass that?

Speaker 2:
[14:05] Here you go.

Speaker 1:
[14:06] Look at this.

Speaker 3:
[14:07] Do you want me to wear it? I have it.

Speaker 2:
[14:08] Yeah, just as a ring. There we go. We're going to make shift. But what's it called? Quelo?

Speaker 3:
[14:17] I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[14:18] Isn't a quelo a drug or it's a queload? What do they do in Wall Street?

Speaker 3:
[14:22] Quelo.

Speaker 1:
[14:22] Quelo. I have no idea.

Speaker 2:
[14:24] But it was your wedding ring. We door dashed it from Dick's Sporting Goods.

Speaker 3:
[14:30] Q-A-L-O.

Speaker 2:
[14:31] Q-A-L-O.

Speaker 3:
[14:32] I don't know how you pronounce that.

Speaker 2:
[14:33] If you see Harrison rocking a black rubber ring for a while, that's it. But what he's going to do is whatever my wedding band is set in, it's going to be maybe some hammered gold or something. We're going to have him, his ring made out of also. Just give us a second on the rings. We're doing everything out of order. Do you want to dive into baby?

Speaker 1:
[14:54] I'd love to.

Speaker 2:
[14:58] We've got two listener questions off the top, and then we've got the questions that we did last time. How did you know you were ready to have a second baby? I think I'm there, but I'm so nervous to be pregnant again. It's a fabulous question. I was nervous to be pregnant again too. As you will hear throughout this episode, one common theme that I keep hammering home is, sorry, I burped, you forget how hard pregnancy is. So I was also nervous to be pregnant again. Then I got into the last month and I was like, woof, my body just totally erased this and it was harder than I remember. But all that to say, I knew we wanted more than one kid. I knew we wanted them to not be five years apart. I knew I wanted to get the pregnancy era of my life over with. And you never know how long it's going to take to get pregnant. And so my body one day was just like, you can do this again. I felt recovered, for lack of a better term. And it took me nine months to feel that way, but something in me, it was an intuition. And I said, listen, do I want to be pregnant and really go through that again? No, it was really hard, but I am ready. And so I think now knowing what to expect, of course, I can sit here and say, listen, pregnancy is really hard on me, but it's nine months for the joy of a lifetime. And that's just like a beautiful sacrifice that I know all moms are willing to make. And so for me, it was just there is no perfect time. And I could have always delayed, delayed, delayed, right? Like I didn't want to be pregnant at Bub's first birthday. Well, I was, and I was so sick. And then, you know, you don't want to be pregnant for the holidays. And then, and I just said, you know what? There's no good time, so let's just do it. And I always say it's not ready, aim, aim, aim. It's ready, aim, fire. And so we did it. And so I was with you. I was like, I think I'm there, but I was nervous to be pregnant again. It was hard, but I sit here at the end of it and tell you it's going to be the most worth it thing ever.

Speaker 1:
[16:53] And you crushed it. You crushed it. The added piece is backing, like just looking at the biological clock of things. We kind of said, okay, if we want to have somewhere between three to four kids, and you don't want to have that big age gap, there wasn't a lot of time to wait.

Speaker 2:
[17:17] Right.

Speaker 1:
[17:17] And so obviously, yeah, I don't think there's much to add beyond that.

Speaker 2:
[17:26] Like, of course, it's, you know, God willing that I could get pregnant again, and I was able to, which is amazing. But we did know, Harrison always has said this, he didn't want to be at Little League Soccer and having a newborn. Like, we just wanted our kids to be closer together. And it's nice, like, we just put the baby rocker in the basement six months ago, and we just got it back out. So like, that's, it's just, we like to be in this phase kind of all at once. And so I will say this, though, I'm starting to think it's a year and a half or two between the next two, but we'll see.

Speaker 1:
[17:59] Well, I'm following your lead on that.

Speaker 2:
[18:01] But then I did, I mean, I got to the year mark with Bubs a little before the year mark, I think it was like 10 or 11 months. And I just was like, I'm ready to do it again, I can do it again. And so I think that in the simplest form to answer this question, gut instinct, but was I excited to do it again? Of course, being pregnant is such a blessing. And of course I was excited, but I was also nervous knowing it was going to be, I mean, you're signing up for, for me, a minimum of three months of throwing up every day. And brain fog and body ache. And you know, do you really want to jump up and say, yeah, I'm ready to do that? No, but I said this to Harrison today. This has to be the cost because the reward is so great. Like pregnancy, this is the only thing that makes sense to me. It would be nine, 10 months of this to get something that beautiful. So that's how I feel about it. Okay, next question, ready? What are you most excited about having two babies? What makes you the most nervous? I'm a bit out of breath. I'm going to let you go first.

Speaker 1:
[19:06] When, before Tate was born, I love life and I felt like my cups were full.

Speaker 2:
[19:15] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[19:17] When Tate was born, just an entirely new element of love and joy was added to our lives.

Speaker 2:
[19:28] That you didn't even know existed.

Speaker 1:
[19:29] That I didn't know existed. A hole wasn't filled.

Speaker 2:
[19:33] Correct.

Speaker 1:
[19:34] Just something new was created and it was completely additive. What I'm most excited for for number two is a continued addition to that piece of life. Just the new memories of joy, the everyday experiences, and for my heart to just keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger, even when I feel like it's as big as it can get.

Speaker 3:
[20:04] Did you re-watch that episode from?

Speaker 1:
[20:06] Shut up. Did I say that?

Speaker 2:
[20:07] No, I didn't.

Speaker 3:
[20:10] You were asked how much, sorry, you were asked how do you think life will change once the baby is born? And you said, I can't wait to keep, you said, I love my life, I can't wait to keep loving life, but with a child in it.

Speaker 1:
[20:25] Wow.

Speaker 3:
[20:26] The phrase of loving life was the exact same.

Speaker 1:
[20:28] Unbelievable. And I promise I had not watched that back.

Speaker 2:
[20:31] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[20:32] Yeah. And it's funny, I was thinking, I was like, part of why I didn't want to watch it back was because if I said stuff that was like cringe, it would make me not want to do this episode.

Speaker 2:
[20:46] Right. Right. I get that. No, I think that's fitting for you though.

Speaker 3:
[20:52] Right.

Speaker 2:
[20:52] Yeah. That's like very on brand for you. And you do love life, but you do love these additions that we're having to life. I can't add anything better to that. I would be repetitive. The only thing I'm going to say, which we've said earlier is our hearts are not dividing and making room for this new baby, but they're going to be growing. And I don't know what that feels like until it happens. And so I'm excited for that. What makes me the most nervous is the unknowns. Like we didn't know what it was like to have one kid. And then we adjusted to that. And now we're going to have to adjust to two. It's man on man. You know, you don't know if you get a bad sleep or a great sleeper. You don't know if they're going to latch, not like, so there's just so many unknowns. And that makes you nervous, but it's a good kind of nerves. OK, next question. What is one piece of advice you would tell yourself at the beginning of pregnancy?

Speaker 3:
[21:42] And this specifically was to you guys as individuals. And we separately did like advice to other pregnant moms and expecting dads, second.

Speaker 2:
[21:52] OK. So the advice I would tell myself at the beginning of this pregnancy is, number one, you've forgotten a lot about what it's like to be pregnant. That's the first thing. Like you just you think you remember, you don't. It's harder than you remember. You're going to get your ass kicked in the first trimester and part of the second trimester and then again in the third trimester. But the other part of it is remember that it's all very real. So yes, there, yes, you are physically sick. Yes, mentally, half of your brain is distracted and take, I feel like it's like taken over. Yes, hormones are real. Yes, you are more emotional. Yes, your body does hurt. And yes, pregnancy, tiredness is real, exhaustion. It's real. And so, and I said this last time, like, you know, get rid of structure and don't be mean to yourself. Pregnancy for me is so humbling and just realizing that that is real. And sometimes I tell myself, be tough. Like you got to be tough. You got to get up and you got to go. And sometimes I just have to let pregnancy win and give myself grace. And you are the best reminder of that for me. But that's, that's what I would tell myself again, at the beginning of pregnancy.

Speaker 1:
[23:09] You did a phenomenal job.

Speaker 2:
[23:11] Thank you. What would you tell yourself?

Speaker 1:
[23:17] I hope this doesn't come off wrong. I would tell myself, coming into this pregnancy, my game plan was very much make sure. Where are you going?

Speaker 2:
[23:28] I'm just so hot. So I should take this off. Go. I'm listening. I'm listening.

Speaker 1:
[23:33] Okay. Coming into this pregnancy, my game plan was prioritize, making sure that you feel taking care of, because pregnancy while I'm so hard on you, that I wanted to, now that we saw what it could be like, to make sure that everything on the back end was as smooth as it could be, to support the nausea and support everything else. And so I think that my advice to myself, if I could go back in time, be like, you have a game plan, she's doing all the heavy lifting, go out and fucking execute it. So, does that make sense?

Speaker 2:
[24:20] Jules is saying, I'm not so sure it made a ton of sense. I think your game plan, yeah, was put the team on your back.

Speaker 1:
[24:27] That's not fair to say at all, because you were doing all the real work.

Speaker 2:
[24:31] I'm doing the building of the baby.

Speaker 1:
[24:32] And all the heavy lifting. And so it's just make sure you feel supported. And so that's, I think it's kind of a weird question, because I told myself, we just had a child. I just witnessed your pregnancy. And so I, real time, could look at myself and say, all right, we just went through this. What do you wish you knew? What do you wish, what are your priorities? And so I knew my priorities were go out and make sure you feel taken care of. And so that's what I focused on.

Speaker 2:
[25:07] And you held down the home front. You held down the cleaning. You held down my meals. You held down bubber. You held down a lot.

Speaker 1:
[25:14] But because you were doing It could have been building the family. Literally the real work.

Speaker 2:
[25:19] Making eyelashes.

Speaker 1:
[25:20] Did that make sense? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[25:21] Yeah, it did.

Speaker 1:
[25:22] I don't know.

Speaker 2:
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Speaker 1:
[28:06] Really powerful, what you just said.

Speaker 2:
[28:08] Thank you. Yours is, I assume, identify what your partner needs. That's what you said last time. I assume it's the same.

Speaker 1:
[28:17] You have what I said last time.

Speaker 2:
[28:19] I had the notes.

Speaker 1:
[28:20] No way. Okay, so it's what I was said, is identify what your partner needs and be for them. What I add to that, okay, so hopefully it's not just a repeat of the episode, is there's no time like the current to change.

Speaker 2:
[28:33] No time like the present.

Speaker 1:
[28:34] No time like the present. And bringing a baby into this world is, if that isn't a time that gets you, what's the right saying?

Speaker 2:
[28:51] Wakes you up, kicks you into gear?

Speaker 1:
[28:55] Yeah, if a child isn't gonna kick things into gear, then I don't know what will. And so, beyond your partner being taken care of, getting things sorted on the mental and physical health front, from a relationship perspective, friends, family, community, from a professional perspective, use the time to level the fuck up. Because it will pay dividends.

Speaker 2:
[29:33] I love that. And you know what you did? You did that. I know you don't wanna hear that, but I think you did a really good job of that this time around. You set goals, you hit them, and you really took care of us.

Speaker 1:
[29:42] You took on your responsibilities, and the more important responsibilities, and I took on my responsibilities, and you did a phenomenal job, and so I had to do a phenomenal job.

Speaker 2:
[29:53] I don't get to give up on mine. Like I don't get to wake up a month before and be like, nah. It's just like, you're just, when my race starts.

Speaker 1:
[30:04] But you do, like because you could have like, you know, you got up.

Speaker 2:
[30:09] I had my bad days.

Speaker 1:
[30:10] Here's what I can say about you. You made the most of every day. Yeah, I truly felt like you did.

Speaker 2:
[30:20] I mean, the next one is, do you have any pregnancy regrets? And I like to say, I don't have one. I gave it my all. Like, I did miss one episode because I just couldn't get here. But I thought back to the first trimester and I think a lot about like laying on this couch and, you know, did we delay a lot of recordings? Yes. But did we not come? No.

Speaker 1:
[30:45] I have a pregnancy regret.

Speaker 2:
[30:46] What?

Speaker 1:
[30:47] I wish I did a better job at spontaneous planning in the moments that you were feeling good.

Speaker 2:
[30:53] Oh, that's nice.

Speaker 1:
[30:54] Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that is a room for improvement on three. Is I felt like a lot of the time wouldn't make plans because so often the plans would be canceled or the plans would be based in very localized areas. And what I wish I did is I wish I had a list of 12 activities that I knew we could do the minute that you felt good. And so when you'd say like, hey, I'd love to go for a walk. I'd love to go for a car ride. I had a better set list of things for us to do.

Speaker 2:
[31:29] I thought you took care of me so good. You have to realize this, too. When I felt good, my ideal scenario was sitting on the couch watching a movie downstairs.

Speaker 1:
[31:38] Or walking the block.

Speaker 2:
[31:39] Walking the block. Downstairs, there was more natural light. So I don't have any regrets. And I feel like the number one thing I wanted to do was eat a lot of queso. And I did that. I packed dairy in very well to this pregnancy. I did it today. I had pancakes when I smothered them in butter.

Speaker 1:
[31:57] I feel like that's a good transition. I'd love to hear how your food experience was this pregnancy vs. last pregnancy. And before we do that, I want to formally present a trade offer. And the trade offer is not by my preference. It's feeling you out based off everything you've said today.

Speaker 2:
[32:17] Okay. I know what you're doing. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[32:19] Would you like to trade Sammy's Italian for Matt's El Rancho tonight for your last pre-birth dinner?

Speaker 2:
[32:28] So here's what I want to do. Because let me tell you what sounds good right now in this moment. Yeah. Queso sounds unbelievable. I don't like Matt's chips. I want to fly to Oklahoma City and I want to go to Ted's Escondido. And I want to get their Queso, their chips and their flour tortillas. But knowing that we can't do that because I can't fly. I need to find its water Queso. It's not fancy Queso. I want the water Queso. I want the light chips. I don't want these deep fried chips. I want the light chips and I want the fluffy tortillas. I don't know where to go to get that.

Speaker 1:
[33:04] I think I have a place on Lamar. So do you want to formally...

Speaker 2:
[33:09] Not the Taquerio Aldias.

Speaker 1:
[33:10] No, the one that just told us about.

Speaker 2:
[33:12] Okay, maybe.

Speaker 1:
[33:14] So do you want a trade request here? Do you want to accept the trade request? So you counter trade. The updated trade request is...

Speaker 2:
[33:23] I do.

Speaker 1:
[33:23] Your preferred choice of Mexican for sammies.

Speaker 2:
[33:26] I do. I want a Diet Coke and I want queso. And I'm getting this hand.

Speaker 1:
[33:29] You got to shake on the right. Come on.

Speaker 2:
[33:31] Okay, hold on one second. There we go.

Speaker 1:
[33:33] Okay. I will say that that was a win-win trade.

Speaker 2:
[33:37] Why? You want Mexican?

Speaker 1:
[33:39] Well, we smashed so much pizza last night, and then we did a big pizza night with our friends on Tuesday. So like the...

Speaker 2:
[33:45] I'm Italianed out.

Speaker 1:
[33:46] The tomato cheese bread combo is just like at highs. Mexican food also has a lot of bread and cheese and tomatoes, but...

Speaker 2:
[33:58] But we went with our friends to Flo's Wine Bar in All Day Pizza. What? And we got the pickle pizza, and I was so obsessed with it that I said to Harrison yesterday, I said, you have to take me to get the pickle pizza again. And it was so good, I can't explain to you.

Speaker 1:
[34:14] Okay. So I got a ziggust for a moment here. This would be a normal episode topic, but I think it's really, really good. And I thought about it yesterday, I meant to text it and I forgot, so I'm glad I remembered. So number one, any single guy going on a first date or second date, I highly, highly recommend Flo's Wine Bar and All Day Pizza.

Speaker 2:
[34:34] Can I tell you why I don't?

Speaker 1:
[34:37] Trust me, can I get ahead of what you're about to say?

Speaker 2:
[34:39] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[34:39] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[34:40] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[34:41] Just do not go there. You can only go there Monday through Thursday on a date and just make sure that you get there early so you can secure a good seat because they don't take reservations. But any good date planner knows that that's part of the game. Okay? Why don't you like it?

Speaker 2:
[34:59] Because you order at the counter. Yeah. You have to keep getting up to get the drinks. There's a lot of shuffling and buffling going around. And once you get your order so the buzzer goes off, you have to get up again. So you're going to keep interrupting the conversation. And if you need water, you have to get up and get that. If she wants another glass of wine, you got to get up and get that.

Speaker 1:
[35:18] Because this is all very, very good for a first date. Why?

Speaker 2:
[35:22] Because the guy can show that he's on it?

Speaker 1:
[35:24] You get to feel each other out.

Speaker 2:
[35:26] Okay, maybe.

Speaker 1:
[35:27] But now here is the big question. So I'm gonna stand by my response or my request. And this goes, you can call this either, I don't know if I want to ask this. Yeah, I'm gonna ask this for two ways. Okay, let's do a scenario analysis.

Speaker 2:
[35:42] You would thrive in this environment though of saying, I'm getting you another drink.

Speaker 1:
[35:46] But is this a deal breaker? Okay, so it's our first date. You and I, we go to Flo's Wine Bar. We sit down. We go, we order three pieces of pizza, the pickle, the cacio e pepe. The double pep. We get a little cookie for dessert. And then we go, we get two of their modified Aperol spritzes. Okay, we're sitting there. The pizza comes. I pull out my own metal knife and fork because my biggest issue with Flo's is they only have plastic knives and forks. And the pieces are big. So is it a deal breaker if on a first date I pulled out my own metal knife and fork?

Speaker 2:
[36:31] Did you bring two?

Speaker 1:
[36:34] Assuming I brought two.

Speaker 2:
[36:35] Then if you brought them just for you, deal breaker immediately. If you pull out two and you say, Hey, I brought you these because I like to cut pizza. These sizes are big. I thought you might want to cut your pizza. I would be like, thank you.

Speaker 1:
[36:47] It's not too nerdy. It felt it's a pretty nerdy vibe.

Speaker 3:
[36:50] It's a little nerdy, but it's nice.

Speaker 2:
[36:52] It's very nice. It's very, very, very nice. What would it what I would notice is if I had drank my whole drink and in an ideal world, if there was like waiters coming around, they would come around. They said, you need another drink. I would love it. I would really love it. It would go a long way if you saw I was 75 percent of the way done with my drink, popped up and said, I'm going to get you another drink. Do you want to change your order or keep it the same?

Speaker 3:
[37:17] Totally.

Speaker 2:
[37:17] Which you are very good at.

Speaker 1:
[37:19] That's why it shows character, shows dynamic.

Speaker 3:
[37:23] There's a little fine line though.

Speaker 2:
[37:25] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[37:25] Is that that guy's move then. He's taking all his first dates to fill a wine bar.

Speaker 1:
[37:30] Jules. I know that. I was waiting for that, Jules. I was waiting for that.

Speaker 3:
[37:34] Because if he comes prepared with his fork and knife, you're like, oh, you come here often.

Speaker 2:
[37:39] Does he need to acknowledge this and make a joke?

Speaker 3:
[37:41] Probably.

Speaker 2:
[37:42] I think that. I would appreciate that joke.

Speaker 3:
[37:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[37:45] Well, I think that that is one where like an end. You can only do it like so many times.

Speaker 3:
[37:59] Probably once.

Speaker 1:
[38:02] Because you can't lie.

Speaker 2:
[38:05] No.

Speaker 1:
[38:05] And so you need to make sure that your ratio of doing it with friends is higher than dates. For sure. So I think the hopeful, appropriate response is, no, no, no, I come here all the time. Like our friends, we love it, we're here every Tuesday.

Speaker 3:
[38:22] Acceptable.

Speaker 2:
[38:23] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[38:24] Or you need to go, you need to be there every Tuesday with your friends. So you need to commit to the bet.

Speaker 3:
[38:29] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[38:29] Or you need to take your mom one time when she's in town and say last time I came here with my mom.

Speaker 1:
[38:32] I was here with my mom. It drove me crazy.

Speaker 3:
[38:34] Perfect.

Speaker 2:
[38:35] I really wish that we had this.

Speaker 1:
[38:37] Okay. Look at this. Talking about marriage, talking about dating hypotheticals.

Speaker 2:
[38:41] I mean, it's just this episode. We're just chock full of it.

Speaker 1:
[38:44] Talking about babies and pregnancy and advice.

Speaker 2:
[38:47] Here's a good one. Okay. How did we choose the name? I think I said this, but now actually that you guys... I don't know if they know the name yet, so we're not going to say the name.

Speaker 1:
[38:54] Should we live tell Jules the name on the pod?

Speaker 3:
[38:57] No, because I like not knowing.

Speaker 2:
[39:00] I think that's good. I think people like not knowing.

Speaker 3:
[39:03] Yeah, I love not knowing.

Speaker 2:
[39:04] I love not knowing babies' names too.

Speaker 1:
[39:05] I need to get my phone for a second.

Speaker 2:
[39:06] Okay. I was at lunch with a friend who asked me if I had heard of this person and said the first and last name. I had not heard of the person. I loved the name and that is the name. I texted Harrison afterwards two names because when she said that name, it sparked another name that I used to love, that I actually liked for Tate. I texted Harrison both names and he responded back to the first one. He's like, I love it.

Speaker 1:
[39:38] So I'm going to add some color on the name here. So you texted it, I loved it, and initially, I loved it under the guise of X and Tate. I was like, oh, that's really fun. Then I was like, wait, how is it going to age? So I visualized, all right, I'm back working in investment banking, and I'm doing interviews, and I see X Fugman on a resume. How is that going to land? I was like, I think that will land phenomenally well.

Speaker 2:
[40:13] Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1:
[40:14] Then I looked at it, same thing. If I met another entrepreneur and this was the entrepreneur's name, I was like, oh, great.

Speaker 2:
[40:20] I love it for when he's in fifth grade. I love it for when he's a senior in high school. I love it for when he's going to college, and I love it for when he's 50.

Speaker 3:
[40:27] I want people to put their guesses in the comments.

Speaker 2:
[40:30] Definitely.

Speaker 1:
[40:30] Well, no, because this is going to come out.

Speaker 2:
[40:32] Well, maybe, I don't know when we're announcing.

Speaker 3:
[40:33] Yeah, this is going to come out before you announce a name.

Speaker 1:
[40:36] Oh, yeah, it is. I have such a great little thing to maybe drop, or you can cut this if not. And I also love the name if he goes to UT.

Speaker 2:
[40:48] I don't even get it, but okay.

Speaker 3:
[40:49] I don't get it. I have like one guess that I've seen in the comments. No, I don't want to say.

Speaker 2:
[40:54] You need it on record, Jules.

Speaker 3:
[40:56] No, I don't want to. I don't know. Walker? No, not even close.

Speaker 1:
[41:02] Terrible guess.

Speaker 3:
[41:03] I love it.

Speaker 2:
[41:04] I love the name too, but it's so funny. I'll tell you why it's not Walker. Taylor Monaco's first daughter, Walker, they call her Walkie Talkie. Adorable. Adorable. But I love it for that girl.

Speaker 1:
[41:15] Yeah, it's a cute name.

Speaker 2:
[41:16] It's such a cute name.

Speaker 3:
[41:17] I've just started seeing it in the comments recently, and I was like, that could be it. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[41:21] Isn't that funny?

Speaker 3:
[41:22] Yeah. But I never guess, because you guys say you don't like people who guess. That's why I didn't want to guess.

Speaker 1:
[41:26] Except for Chad, Chad's just guessing right away.

Speaker 2:
[41:29] We've got some guesses from our friends submitted, and one of them got it.

Speaker 3:
[41:34] I said that last episode.

Speaker 2:
[41:35] So one of them has said it. Also, when you think of a name, you think of also a nickname, and we've thought of this boy's nickname.

Speaker 1:
[41:46] A lot of nicknames, a lot of nicknames.

Speaker 3:
[41:48] Can I ask if it's a single syllable?

Speaker 2:
[41:51] You cannot ask.

Speaker 3:
[41:52] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[41:53] Okay, there goes double. Thank you for that. I think that, because that, I like that question, but it rules out.

Speaker 3:
[42:01] No, I have no clue what it is. And everyone is like, I get on meetings, they're like, you don't know the name? I'm like, no, I don't know the name.

Speaker 2:
[42:07] It's good that Jules doesn't know.

Speaker 3:
[42:08] They've never said it.

Speaker 1:
[42:09] I'm really upset we didn't Easter egg the wedding.

Speaker 2:
[42:14] We didn't have the headspace to Easter egg.

Speaker 1:
[42:16] Yeah. Do you know how I wish we Easter egged it?

Speaker 2:
[42:22] How?

Speaker 1:
[42:23] I wish that we told our friends Tuesday pizza.

Speaker 2:
[42:28] Same.

Speaker 1:
[42:28] And we just didn't talk about it, and then I was sitting there trying to get your attention, being like, are we gonna tell everyone? And then we were sitting at opposite ends of the table, and we left and we're like, should we tell them? And then we went back in, and we're like, wait, no, now it's like awkward. I wish that I wore the wedding ring to pizza on Tuesday, and I wish that, I think it would have been fun if, like, I think photos were posted of pizza if I was wearing a ring in those photos.

Speaker 2:
[42:58] Do you know where I've gotta push back on this? I love no Easter egg.

Speaker 1:
[43:01] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[43:03] I love just-

Speaker 1:
[43:04] You're a ready, ready, aim, fire, fire.

Speaker 2:
[43:06] Correct. Like, because people are guessing and it's just like, we hadn't even turned in the form yet. Like, we turned in the form yesterday. Today we announce. I like that. That's very clean. It's very-

Speaker 3:
[43:16] We Easter egged. We posted the, I mean, switched the handle.

Speaker 2:
[43:20] Correct. My username is Shane. Everyone's get an hour. We get an hour of Easter egging right now. Me with my underscore on Instagram, which I actually don't care about in the scheme of things. It's funny. You're like, okay. You live for planning the perfect trip, the thrill of comparing hotels, scoring that impossible reservation, and piecing together an unforgettable itinerary. You already think like a travel advisor, so why not become one? That's where Fora comes in. Fora is a modern travel agency built for people who love to plan travel and help others travel well. Their tech platform, training, and community give you everything you need to turn a passion for travel planning into a flexible, meaningful stream of income. As a floor advisor, you get best-in-class training, powerful booking tech, and a vibrant global community of experts and fellow advisors who share real insider knowledge to help you launch and grow your own travel business with confidence. Now is the time to finally turn your passion for travel into a fulfilling business with Fora. Become a Fora travel advisor today at foratravel.com/twoparents. That's foratravel.com/twoparents, and make sure you tell them we sent you. foratravel.com/twoparents. Okay, we're back. We did a quick pause to post the photos and the TikTok. Okay.

Speaker 3:
[44:43] How does it feel?

Speaker 2:
[44:44] To post it?

Speaker 3:
[44:44] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[44:45] It feels good. It's funny because- It's like something we've known all week, you know? And then you post it in like your high school friends see, and things like that. And it didn't used to be like that, right? Like it didn't, we didn't even used to have, now these days, you get married, you post it on Instagram, people see it, you run into them out in person, and they're like, oh, I loved your dress. Like we all see everything that everybody does. I love that. I'm obviously a big proponent of social media, but it's funny, like our parents, our grandparents, like they don't know that. They don't know the feeling of the post. But it's good, I love everybody being on the same page. I love that when we go out to dinner tonight for our Mexican food, Harrison can wear his ring. Like it's all, that to me is really fun. I also love the way we did it. I love the pajamas. I love like just in our little house. I mean, we just love our house. So we're just there.

Speaker 1:
[45:49] Okay, I'm going to... Do you wish we got married before Tate?

Speaker 2:
[45:59] No, I don't wish we did anything differently. Do you?

Speaker 1:
[46:04] I'm going to agree with you.

Speaker 2:
[46:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[46:06] I'm going to agree with you. I wouldn't change anything. But it's funny on the flip side, like if we waited until after he was born, I think my view on it would change. Like I didn't want to wait any longer. I felt like we waited as long as we could have.

Speaker 2:
[46:27] Oh, I agree with that. I think any longer we would have been waiting for the wedding to celebrate with people, whereas they... Yeah, I agree with that. But what I will say is one of my friends texted me back, one of my lifelong friends texted me back, and she said, I'm so proud of you because you just did things your way. And that message meant a lot because we did and we didn't listen to other people. We didn't follow necessarily, well, not necessarily. We did not follow a traditional timeline. We've done things backwards. But along the way, you and I have been in sync about that. We've been thoughtful about that. And we've really tried to protect our family with the way we've done things. And I think you did a really good thing where you came to me and you said, I wanna be married before he comes. I don't care about the party. I don't care about having the wedding. That can all come later. But what's best for our family is for us to do it now. And I really appreciated you bringing that into vision for me. Because that's the way we should have done it. We weren't ready to get married before Tate. It would have been too much. There was too much new city, new parents, new relationship, right? And while you and I's gut instincts were right, bringing us together, which is great.

Speaker 1:
[47:48] And while we loved each other more than we could ever imagine, there was so much going on.

Speaker 2:
[47:53] There was so much going on and to throw a wedding and that. So what we did was we said, no, we're not gonna do the formality because people think we should. Like we're not just gonna do the formality. And now it made this wedding so, it was such a sweet, it was just perfect. That's what it was, it was just perfect. And so yeah, no, I don't regret it at all. You know, I do think I would have regretted though going to the hospital tomorrow and not having done it. So I'm really, I think you're right on that. So that's, yeah, it's good. Okay, quick derail there, sorry. What do you, I read this earlier. What do you think the birth process will be like? Me the first time. I hope it's 10 hours.

Speaker 1:
[48:35] Yeah, so what we said the first time.

Speaker 2:
[48:38] I hope it's a 10 hour labor. I've mentally prepared for the worst. Oh, I said maybe the epidural doesn't work.

Speaker 3:
[48:43] That was one of your like worsts that you were preparing for.

Speaker 1:
[48:46] Unbelievable.

Speaker 2:
[48:47] Well, that came true.

Speaker 3:
[48:48] Well, I knew that because I actually rewatched this before we put it out. The thing that I didn't know is that Harrison said the number 36 hours. You said it could be 24, 36 hours. That's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[49:03] Unbelievable.

Speaker 2:
[49:05] Unbelievable. I read that earlier. You said 36 hours and you guys, it was if you didn't know it was a 36 hours.

Speaker 1:
[49:14] That's just me rolling in 12 hour increments, just knowing how my brain works.

Speaker 2:
[49:18] Of course.

Speaker 1:
[49:18] That wasn't a guess. When I make a good prediction, I like owning the prediction. That was not a prediction.

Speaker 2:
[49:27] Well, you nailed it with the 36 hours. It was 36 hours. It was six hours of pushing. The epidural did not work. When I give my, what do you think the birth process will be like, guess this time, we saw my OB today. She's like, listen, it's not going to be like last time. I'm like, correct, because I will know if the epidural does or doesn't work. But she's like, the second one does go a lot faster. Get in there, ask for the epidural. She thinks it'll be, she thinks we're rolling at nine, and we have the baby in the afternoon. So that's her guess. I'm going to assume worse than that. I'm going to assume we have a 20-hour labor, because I'm just scarred. I had a third degree tear last time. She didn't think I'll have that. I'm assuming I have a second degree. Like, I just am assuming my births are worse.

Speaker 1:
[50:18] Do you want my prediction?

Speaker 2:
[50:20] No.

Speaker 1:
[50:20] OK.

Speaker 2:
[50:21] No, I don't want your prediction because you didn't predict if I was die later or not, and that was good for me, and I was, and that was exciting, and so I don't want your prediction.

Speaker 1:
[50:28] OK. Great.

Speaker 2:
[50:30] You could say it, and I could do this.

Speaker 1:
[50:32] If you don't care, then unless Jules wants me to say it.

Speaker 3:
[50:35] She wasn't saying she doesn't care.

Speaker 2:
[50:36] Yeah, I do care. I don't want to know. You ready? I'll go to...

Speaker 1:
[50:39] If Jules can't do it.

Speaker 3:
[50:40] Go.

Speaker 1:
[50:41] Vibes are great. Vibes are great. I have a phenomenal feeling.

Speaker 3:
[50:45] That's it. Perfect.

Speaker 2:
[50:49] Okay. So now they all know. How do you think life will change after this baby is born?

Speaker 1:
[50:54] Please, you go first.

Speaker 2:
[50:56] Well, I think... Listen, it was a rough nine months for me, and I'm optimistic about my mental health postpartum this time, and I'll tell you why. I have heard the way you feel during pregnancy can be an indicator of how you feel afterwards mentally. I had prepartum depression with Tate. I had postpartum depression with Tate. I have not had, knock on wood, a lot of prepartum depression with this one, so I'm hoping that's an indicator of how I feel afterwards. I know that's not always the case, but let me hold on to my optimism.

Speaker 1:
[51:28] Can you clarify that you just said the last nine months have been really hard on you, and so...

Speaker 2:
[51:36] But I am feeling optimistic, yes. So they've been hard on me mentally and physically in the sense of loss of energy, nausea all the time, a lot of headaches this time, a lot of body ache this time. When you don't feel good, you don't have the pep in your step mentally. It's tough to wake up and be like, I'm exhausted, I need to take a nap. So that's what I mean by it's been a tough nine months. Now, while depression hasn't been present in those nine months, I'm feeling pretty good that after I have this baby, I think I'm going to feel good. Maybe that's not accurate, but let me just hold on to that truth for a second. So I'll say, the way I think life will change after this baby is born is I hope we take it in stride. I think we've done a really good job listening to people saying, Christianer was right, one is one and two is 20. So surround yourself with help, prepare. We've got the night nurse. That's our version of help in the first three months because we think that's the most important thing. If we're sleeping and we have help around the house, that should really help us. So I think-

Speaker 1:
[52:38] A lot of family in town.

Speaker 2:
[52:39] Tons of family in town. We've got our schedule for the birth. I like to think we're set up pretty good. I know when you let your guard down is when you get hit in the face. We're not doing that. I'm just saying in comparison to the way pregnancy was, I'm feeling good about feeling better.

Speaker 1:
[52:58] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[52:59] Do I think two will be hard? Yes, of course I do. I think we're gonna get our shit rocked, but I'm also gonna feel better when our shit's rocked. So I'm optimistic about that. You've heard me say it before, but I'll say it again. Skims is always changing the game with their intimates. Everything that Skims comes out with is the best. You guys have seen me in this black dress that I've been wearing the last three weeks of pregnancy. It's Skims. I've been wearing their Skims bras every day of pregnancy. The underwear have carried me through pregnancy. Their shorts, I wear their tank tops. Everything I wear is Skims. And every time I pass their store in the domain, I go in and I get whatever I can find because their basics are so good. They make the stretchiest underwear fabric. Then they created the cutest push-up bra. They did create the cutest push-up bra. And now they've done it again with the new cotton fabric that has changed my life. I have the best shorts from them. I have their pajamas. I mean, my whole closet is basically Skims. And I'm telling you, if you want to be comfy and chic, Skims is the way to go, you guys. So shop Everyday Cotton and all of my favorite bras and underwear at skims.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you. Select Podcast in the survey and be sure to select our show in the drop down menu that follows.

Speaker 1:
[54:11] Yeah. And like we've had our shit rock before. You've handled it incredibly well. And I feel like we're as well set up and as well prepared as you can be.

Speaker 2:
[54:24] Yeah. And like, am I going to be, you know, in bed for two weeks after this? Correct. Yes. I know that. And I know that my milk coming in is going to make me feel like I have the flu. And I, of course, I've forgotten some of those things, but I am optimistic about the post-pregnancy. I'm just like, I'm excited to sleep on my stomach again, things like that.

Speaker 1:
[54:41] To be a dork, like to do the dorky business thing here. One thing they talk about a lot in the startup community is the advantages of being a second time founder versus a first time founder, because you've just seen so much before. And even if those things haven't gone your way, you at least know what it's like to get hit in the face. And this very much feels like there's a second time founder feeling going through it, where you feel like both of us have a really clear understanding of what can go right and what can go wrong and what largely to expect, both from our experiences, but also what we've heard from our friends. And that's a really comforting dynamic. Yeah, and I knowing that like shit still will be hard.

Speaker 2:
[55:31] It's going to be hard. It's going to be hard. But I do think there is something to it. Yeah, one of my friends who just had their second baby, she was like, there's something really beautiful about being able to enjoy it more because you know what to expect. And then it gets really hard, like taking to taking one kid anywhere is hard, taking two kids really hard. So both will be true. But I think I think overall, it's very optimistic for us.

Speaker 1:
[55:54] Jules, what are we smirking at over there?

Speaker 3:
[55:58] Alex, did you proofread before you posted your pictures?

Speaker 2:
[56:01] No. What did I do? Did I have a typo? What typo?

Speaker 3:
[56:08] It says if and not it.

Speaker 1:
[56:11] I almost think you got to keep it.

Speaker 2:
[56:13] Of course it does.

Speaker 1:
[56:14] I almost think you got to keep it. Who cares?

Speaker 3:
[56:17] No, I'm scrolling.

Speaker 1:
[56:19] That's hilarious.

Speaker 3:
[56:20] It is.

Speaker 1:
[56:21] And this gives me a great opportunity. I had a three o'clock call. I'm just going to call them and say that I'm running a little late.

Speaker 2:
[56:26] Okay, we'll just do that now.

Speaker 1:
[56:27] Are you going to edit it or are you going to keep it?

Speaker 2:
[56:29] I'm going to keep it.

Speaker 3:
[56:31] I just like...

Speaker 1:
[56:33] What do you think? I think it's so funny.

Speaker 2:
[56:35] Just leave it. Okay. Is there anything else?

Speaker 3:
[56:42] You didn't do the having a boy.

Speaker 2:
[56:45] Oh, okay. Okay, last question. Then we're going to wrap up here and get on to our Mexican food date night because it's starting to sound really good. How do you feel having a boy? Being a boy, dad?

Speaker 1:
[57:01] This is a this is a rare answer that I actually remember. And I think I would have said something along the lines last time of having a boy. At some point, I think I've said this, which is there was a lot less unknowns in having a boy versus a girl for me. Because with a boy, all I need to do is recreate the relationship that my dad had with me. Because I think my dad had a, I think my dad and I still have a great relationship today. But growing up, I also really aspire the way he fathered in a variety of ways, both in teaching as well as having a good time together. And with Tate, like I didn't have that direct playbook. And so, to me, it's just really emulate the relationship that my dad and I had growing up and have today.

Speaker 2:
[57:51] Yeah, I think that's really sweet.

Speaker 1:
[57:53] He doesn't listen to this, so he doesn't know I'm saying these nice things.

Speaker 2:
[57:55] Well, that's really nice. Maybe we'll send him that part. We'll tell him to go to this, we'll give him a time stamp. For me, having a boy is just like it was having Tate. I don't know. I'm so excited to learn. All these moms have told me the mother-son bond is something that you can't explain. I look forward to that. I know whenever you have kids, whether they're a girl or a boy, it is the most heartwarming thing on the planet, and so I'm just excited to feel that, but it's unknown for me. I don't know, and I cannot wait to see.

Speaker 1:
[58:30] You're gonna be a phenomenal boy, mom.

Speaker 2:
[58:31] Well, I've been just looking at all these little boys. There was one today, there was a little boy sitting there, and I just thought, that's gonna be us, and we didn't know what it was gonna be like to have a girl, and then we had her, and we were just obsessed with her, so I'm excited.

Speaker 1:
[58:43] Totally. Before we end, I do realize we didn't talk food, so, because we were gonna talk food, and then we got into the trade, and so what is the food pregnancy summary that we should end this off with?

Speaker 2:
[58:58] Well, why don't you, okay, you should, I have it written down here in front of me, so you guess what pregnancy one was.

Speaker 1:
[59:03] So pregnancy one, I remember very unique, and I almost want to call them elaborate cravings, like really rich, tasty food. And so I remember steak and baked potatoes was very big, and I remember baked potatoes had its own era, I think we called them eras, and then I remember there's the bland rice era, and I remember a lot of two liters of Sprite.

Speaker 2:
[59:33] Sprite's on here.

Speaker 1:
[59:34] I remember enchiladas was a big moment.

Speaker 2:
[59:38] Mexicans on here.

Speaker 1:
[59:39] And so all of these, just a lot of like, did it just say Mexican or it was enchiladas? I'm very clear on that.

Speaker 3:
[59:47] I knew it was enchiladas, I wrote down Mexican.

Speaker 1:
[59:49] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[59:50] Chicken tenders but not chick-fil-a because I would throw it up.

Speaker 1:
[59:53] Yeah. Never barbecue, barbecue always made you throw up.

Speaker 2:
[59:56] Brisket.

Speaker 1:
[59:58] Versus this, it felt like your cravings were a lot more bland in nature. Like this, I feel like you ate a lot of Three Wishes cereal, a ton of turkey burgers and a ton of chicken. Salad, like this, it felt very, very, like two totally different craving sets. Is that accurate?

Speaker 2:
[60:21] Yes, and it's accurate. I had a lot of pancakes and I had so many eggs that I now can hardly look at eggs.

Speaker 1:
[60:29] Eggs is the only consistency between the two.

Speaker 2:
[60:31] Eggs, I, hard-boiled eggs, eggs at 2 a.m., 4 a.m., like eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs, but here's-

Speaker 1:
[60:37] Hard-boiled eggs.

Speaker 2:
[60:38] Hard-boiled eggs.

Speaker 1:
[60:38] You would hammer those.

Speaker 2:
[60:40] Every hour.

Speaker 1:
[60:41] You would have them with you everywhere.

Speaker 2:
[60:43] In my purse. I had them everywhere with me.

Speaker 1:
[60:46] Pregnancy is-

Speaker 2:
[60:48] But here's what I'll say. I ate like crap with my first pregnancy and I ate pretty healthy with my second pregnancy. I did not work out at all in my first pregnancy. I worked out a pretty good amount in my second pregnancy. I got on the scale today. Ended up pretty much in the same spot. Your body just does what your body does during pregnancy. Let it. And I didn't eat healthy this time by design. It was just what I craved. It was what my body craved. I walked a mile every day. I walked a 30 minute mile every day. And it felt really good to do that. That's why I did it. I don't get on the scale during pregnancy, but I always do the last day. And I got on it today and I just laughed to myself.

Speaker 1:
[61:28] You did phenomenally well in Pregnancy One and you did phenomenally well in Pregnancy Two.

Speaker 2:
[61:31] But admit that's pretty cool. I had bags of Doritos with the first. I had liters of Sprite with the first. I had ground turkey burgers this time and drank primarily water, ended up in the same spot. Like your body just does what your body's gonna do, which I think is a beautiful thing. And I think a lot of people get pregnant and that's why I hate those charts that tell you how much you're supposed to get. You don't get to pick how much you gain. Your baby needs what your baby needs, and your baby will get what your baby's supposed to get. And that's what I've learned from pregnancy. There's that, that's that on that. We will, that's it, that's all. So, okay, guys, it was really fun podcasting through pregnancy. We, on the other side of this, whenever I'm back, we planned to add a third episode, which I'm really excited about, because I've just been loving having this podcast to talk. And we're learning a lot from you guys. Recently learned that we need to sit our car seat up further. It's in the toddler, or it's in the infant position, we need to set it up to the toddler position.

Speaker 3:
[62:36] I learned something. I'm gonna get them for you guys as a gift. There's a special light sticky trap for the fruit flies. And I'm gonna order it to your house like today.

Speaker 2:
[62:49] Wait, is it a Zivo?

Speaker 3:
[62:50] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[62:51] I have it.

Speaker 3:
[62:51] You have it?

Speaker 2:
[62:52] I have two Zivos in the fruit fly area.

Speaker 3:
[62:54] And it's not working?

Speaker 2:
[62:55] No.

Speaker 3:
[62:56] The comments are swearing by the Zivos. Like, I mean, like tens of hundreds of comments. I'm not exaggerating.

Speaker 2:
[63:04] Let me ask you this on the Zivos. Do I need to be replacing the sticky part like daily?

Speaker 3:
[63:11] Oh, I don't know the answer to that. Or are there bugs on it?

Speaker 2:
[63:14] Yeah, but I was like enjoying it filling up.

Speaker 3:
[63:17] I thought, I don't think so. I don't think you need to do that daily.

Speaker 2:
[63:20] I have two Zivos over there by the fruit.

Speaker 3:
[63:22] Well, never mind that. Apparently, they don't work.

Speaker 2:
[63:24] Well, they do work. They have flies on them, but I need more. So now I've got the bowl out. I've got the two. I've got a whole operation.

Speaker 3:
[63:33] The internet is latching on to this fruit fly thing, so we'll get some more answers.

Speaker 2:
[63:37] And does the internet say a lot of people have fruit flies? Oh, I got the drain stuff.

Speaker 3:
[63:40] Everyone has fruit flies. Oh, something about wine corks. Look into it.

Speaker 2:
[63:46] But I did get the fruit fly killer for the drain, so I reported on it.

Speaker 3:
[63:48] Okay, good.

Speaker 2:
[63:49] Okay, guys, we love you. We're so excited to share the baby name with you. Thank you for being here with us throughout this whole journey. We're excited to be married. We're excited for baby number two, and we love you all.

Speaker 1:
[63:59] Thank you for listening.

Speaker 2:
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