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Speaker 1:
[00:32] Hello, folks, welcome back to Straight Forward Farming Podcast. I'm your host, Tony Reed, alongside Nick McCormick on a rainy April 2nd.

Speaker 2:
[00:41] Yes, we're back.

Speaker 1:
[00:42] Yep, we are, finally. Luckily, the rain ain't got carried away for us yet.

Speaker 2:
[00:48] No, it hadn't been.

Speaker 1:
[00:48] Still a chance or two coming up here over the next day or two, but I've had nine-tenths total since Monday. Today's Thursday, so I've had three-tenths up until the day, and then got six-tenths this afternoon.

Speaker 2:
[00:59] Yeah, about the same here.

Speaker 1:
[01:01] Yeah, so overall, that ain't bad. We'll take it.

Speaker 2:
[01:03] The way the wind was blowing, you thought it was more than that.

Speaker 1:
[01:06] Yeah, still blowing about 50-mile-an-hour out there.

Speaker 2:
[01:08] Yeah, seems like it.

Speaker 1:
[01:10] Yep. Yeah, gosh, I don't know when, I don't have my list with me. I don't know when the last podcast we done was with Bob and them, so whatever that was.

Speaker 2:
[01:19] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[01:19] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[01:20] Couple weeks probably prior to Beater with a Heater.

Speaker 1:
[01:23] Yep. Yep. Which, for those of you missed out on that, that was a good time.

Speaker 2:
[01:26] It was a great time.

Speaker 1:
[01:27] I have no idea how many people was there, I mean, it was several hundred, whether it was 500, I have no idea. I mean, it had been close to that.

Speaker 2:
[01:35] More than 100, less than a thousand.

Speaker 1:
[01:36] Yep, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[01:37] If you weren't there, it's your own fault.

Speaker 1:
[01:38] Yep. Yep. That's a fact. Yep. Good time. Good weather that day.

Speaker 2:
[01:43] Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[01:44] Think we had 10 or 11 states worth of people on the count of that day, so yeah, it turned out good.

Speaker 2:
[01:51] Yes, absolutely. Good time. It's had by all.

Speaker 1:
[01:56] Yep. So spring has officially started here. A lot of field work being done. Or I should say a lot, but some.

Speaker 2:
[02:01] Some, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[02:02] I planted a few beans. For those of you who follow me on TikTok have seen that just and that was just 12 acres here at the house. Wasn't nothing big, just just enough to get the planter kinks worked out and make sure the make sure it was going to work on the new to me tractor and everything. So yeah, should be ready to roll hard now when it dries up.

Speaker 2:
[02:20] So yeah, we got all our gas on. So got that done so we can switch that tractor off of that onto something else. And so as the weather straightens out, we can just hit it and go hopefully. Yeah, hopefully we can do it one time and be done this year. Yeah, I don't mind farming more ground. I hate to do the same ground twice though.

Speaker 1:
[02:37] That's just it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it seemed like it's later in the year than what it is. Like we've just had a lot of nice weather, you know, but doesn't seem like I'm thinking we're 1st of May, not 1st of April, you know.

Speaker 2:
[02:48] Yeah. Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1:
[02:51] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[02:52] So there's nothing worse than having to replant, especially corn. Like you tear it out, it comes back, you get a better stand from the first time than you had in the replant stand, because it always gets pounded with rain too. And it's like, then you got rows over here. It's just a nightmare.

Speaker 1:
[03:07] I really think when it comes to replanting, the very first time you look at it and you think, man, I don't know, just make the executive decision then to just tear it up and be done with it. They always say, well, it's got this yield potential for that. I've never seen that work.

Speaker 2:
[03:19] I've never seen that work. No, an old timer told me one time, he was like, we were debating a field and he'd been by it. He's like, well, one thing's for sure. If you leave it, you can guarantee you're not going to have a good crop. Yeah, you got a point. He was like, you might as well go tear it up. And I don't spot any corn.

Speaker 1:
[03:35] I don't either. I do all or none.

Speaker 2:
[03:36] Yeah. And I've been that way for years. It's been years ago when dad was still planting corn once in a while. So it's been quite a while ago. He's like, I'll go over to that farm, start tearing stuff up, wherever you think, and call me back, or holler on the FM back then probably, and let me know how many bags of seed you think I need. Like, you're going to bring enough to plant the whole farm. Really? Well, it was like 10 foot of good, 20 foot of bad, 10 foot of bad, 20 foot of good.

Speaker 1:
[04:00] And then it's a circle, it's not square, it's in and out.

Speaker 2:
[04:02] What are we going to do here? I started doing it off in sections, the bad spots. I'm like, you know what? This would be just as fast to tear the whole thing out. Just do it over.

Speaker 1:
[04:08] Well, by the time you turn on the shit that you left, you just as well. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[04:13] It all depends on how the field lays. Like we've got some, you know, let's see, it's got a slope, a continuing slope to it. We can tear the bottom half up and do that maybe. But if the top half is good, but otherwise, if your lengthways with it.

Speaker 1:
[04:26] I don't hoe corn. I don't do that shit. It's all.

Speaker 2:
[04:28] Hoeing corn is just something you do to kill time until you decide you're going to tear it up.

Speaker 1:
[04:31] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[04:32] Now, I have saved some over the years of the sulfur, just set it real, shallow back there on basket off and just hit it real lightly. I have some safe. I have saved some like that.

Speaker 1:
[04:41] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[04:42] But one year we happened to have a real small, like an 18 footer or whatever, put on a light tractor and do it that way. That works really good, actually. But I just tear it up now.

Speaker 1:
[04:52] It's never right when it's trying to come up in them conditions anyway.

Speaker 2:
[04:56] No, it never is.

Speaker 1:
[04:57] No, I don't always hate making that decision, but it's I hate to when it's one of them deals where you don't catch it like immediately. The corn is getting six, eight inches tall, and then you're looking, and by then you've had more rain that fucked even more of it up. And it's like, God, what do you...

Speaker 2:
[05:14] Years ago, the same year we had that small one, we were doing a little bit of that on the corn. I went out there trying to get it set and planting, and it was a little heavy, and wouldn't close the slot, and this, that, and the other. Of course, you're changing settings. Well, you're 40 foot wide and not a very big field next thing you know, you're about done. I got Matt partway through there, hollered on the radio with dad, and he brought that one over, and he went over top of where I had went, and then did the rest of it. So we had some loose soil to work with. By the time we got done with all that, it was dried out good enough, he could plant it. So I'm like, I'm just not going back to look for a while. So a guy comes into the shop, he's like, boy, you got some good looking beans over there. And I'm like, I thought he was being a smart ass, because I'm like, this got to look like a train wreck. By gosh, those might have been the best ones I had. I'm like, I told dad, I said, maybe we're doing it wrong. I said, maybe we ought to just be, yeah, planting them in and then running over the top afterwards.

Speaker 1:
[06:03] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[06:05] Covering them over, we could plant two weeks sooner, maybe a month. And now, from what they tell you, like, you know, planting dates, everything, it's like, well, maybe we're doing it wrong the whole time.

Speaker 1:
[06:16] Yeah, I don't know. That whole planting deal, this is the first time I've ever planted March beans, and granted, this ain't going to be a real fair comparison. I mean, it's 12 acres, and this field out here for the listeners at my house, it's just a big crown, basically. Like, it doesn't stand water, it's got a ridge right through the middle of it, so the drain's good. But I mean, I don't know. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with March beans. A lot of guys tell you to plant them as early as you can, but I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[06:43] I don't know. It seems like our seasons are off anymore, and everything's off by a month somehow or another. I don't know. I prefer to be done in April. Early May doesn't tear me up. Late May, I start to get frustrated, and I hate planting in June.

Speaker 1:
[06:54] Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 2:
[06:56] So that pisses me off to no end. It's been a few years back now, and I think our insurance dates, what, the fourth? Something like that.

Speaker 1:
[07:04] Fifth, yeah, I think.

Speaker 2:
[07:05] Fourth, fifth, whatever it is. I put a lot of stuff in in a short amount of time, which was a good thing, because it started raining right after that, too. That was the only window you had, but man, I hate that.

Speaker 1:
[07:15] Yeah, that's the bad part nowadays with such big machinery and high-speed machinery. You can get all your eggs in one basket accidentally.

Speaker 2:
[07:23] Yeah, you can be wrong over everything pretty fast.

Speaker 1:
[07:25] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[07:27] But honestly, to do it the way we used to do it, I don't know if you'd ever get it done now.

Speaker 1:
[07:32] I don't know if you would either. I really don't.

Speaker 2:
[07:33] Yeah, I told dad that several years ago. I'm like, you know, if we still had two wheel drive tractors and, you know, had to disc everything once and then fuel cultivate it down twice and all that. I'm like, I don't know. You know, you couldn't do that in April because the ground was never fit for it. Yep. He's like, well, maybe we'd be better off now. But it seemed like back then we had the whole month of May was basically good. You get rain that one time in there.

Speaker 1:
[07:51] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[07:52] You know, half inch or whatever, no big deal. Now it seems like it comes down brutally hard.

Speaker 1:
[07:57] Yep. Just in sheets and we always get two windows. It'll dry up about now.

Speaker 2:
[08:01] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[08:02] And if you can get something done, do it. And then it's going to rain for a month and then you'll get back in. It seems like that's the way it is.

Speaker 2:
[08:08] I feel like that's the way it is. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[08:10] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[08:12] The windows aren't very long. It doesn't seem like no, they're not.

Speaker 1:
[08:15] But it doesn't seem like the falls have switched the other ways. Just seems like it never rains in the fall.

Speaker 2:
[08:19] Now you can just this fall went forever.

Speaker 1:
[08:21] It did.

Speaker 2:
[08:21] I was too busy in the shop to be out doing what I really wanted to be doing. But like if a guy was going to do dirt work or tree trimming or, you know, whatever, building dry dams or whatever, like this is the perfect year for it.

Speaker 1:
[08:33] It was. It went on.

Speaker 2:
[08:34] 2025 was the perfect fall for it. Like just on and on and on and on. It finally got too cold before it got really got wet, you know?

Speaker 1:
[08:43] Yeah. Yep. We're finally breaking the drought. We've been in a pretty good drought here since what? Well, early last summer. And I think they said we're still six inches below here. Now, that wasn't counting this rain that's coming through now, but we're at least getting back.

Speaker 2:
[08:57] Yeah, getting caught up.

Speaker 1:
[08:58] And I guess, I don't know how if... I don't know what the drought calendar is. Like, do we start over January 1? Do we, like, is it year?

Speaker 2:
[09:08] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[09:08] You know, I don't know how that works.

Speaker 2:
[09:10] End of June to the first of July of the next year?

Speaker 1:
[09:12] Right. I mean, technically, everybody around here is in a drought or severe drought or extreme drought, whatever, but it's mud everywhere. So it's like, well, that doesn't make sense, but it's going off the amount of rainfall.

Speaker 2:
[09:21] But it's dry, you get very deep.

Speaker 1:
[09:23] Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 2:
[09:24] It gets dry fast. Yeah. I don't know. You get out there that first little bit, it's like, oh, I could do all this in this farm. I could do all this on this farm, but now it's time to go, you know? And some of that fall stuff, it's like it's not technically making you any money.

Speaker 1:
[09:42] Right.

Speaker 2:
[09:42] The harvest is over, you got other shit to do, so on and so forth. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[09:48] Yeah, and I suppose that's how some of that stuff goes by the wayside. You know, you always think, well, I'll get it next time, next time, next time. You never do, and next thing you know...

Speaker 2:
[09:56] That little trees, you know?

Speaker 1:
[09:57] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[09:57] 20 inches around and...

Speaker 1:
[09:58] The fence row is 60 foot wide now.

Speaker 2:
[10:00] Yeah. Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1:
[10:03] I know I didn't see much tiling going on around here this year. You know, I think everybody's keeping things close to their vests, which there's been a lot of tiling done in the last 10 years, too.

Speaker 2:
[10:12] Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[10:12] Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think everybody's just...

Speaker 2:
[10:17] That is one thing I think I could say from my limited experience. If you got a farm that you can do it on, then pitter-patter, get at her.

Speaker 1:
[10:26] Yeah. I've never heard anybody regret putting it in.

Speaker 2:
[10:29] No. I mean, it sucks to pay for, but like a buddy of mine told me before we did ours, he's like, you're paying for it whether you want to or not. He's like, you're either paying for it and lost yield, so on and so forth a little bit at a time every year, or you can put it in and make the payments on it, you know?

Speaker 1:
[10:44] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[10:45] And see the benefit of it. And he wasn't wrong. If I had to do it over again, I had to title it the day I bought it.

Speaker 1:
[10:49] Yeah, and yours has been in long enough now, you know, it's actually...

Speaker 2:
[10:51] It's starting to work pretty good.

Speaker 1:
[10:52] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[10:53] Yeah. I got no complaints there. And I don't have giant holes in the field from...

Speaker 1:
[10:58] It's all consistent.

Speaker 2:
[10:59] The clay tile of, you know...

Speaker 1:
[11:00] Oh, yeah. You mean after a year? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[11:03] Yeah. I'd hate to meet the poor guys that had to dig that shit in.

Speaker 1:
[11:06] What a deal.

Speaker 2:
[11:08] Yeah. Some of that was really deep and really big to put in with a shovel.

Speaker 1:
[11:12] Yeah. I can't imagine.

Speaker 2:
[11:14] Oh, my goodness. Yeah. I'd probably stand around and say, I can't find any kids today that want to work.

Speaker 1:
[11:21] Yeah, probably so. Yeah. Gosh. And that's amazing how clay tile just butted up with a teeny tiny crack in between the seams. And how that shit never moved when you was filling it back in.

Speaker 2:
[11:32] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:32] And maybe there was a lot more to that that I'm unaware of. I mean, I don't know, but.

Speaker 2:
[11:36] I've never seen it done in person, but yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:39] But you have just to lay them. I mean, I can't imagine how you could get a bottom that flat and that square for all that shit to lay in there.

Speaker 2:
[11:47] Yeah, I mean, they did.

Speaker 1:
[11:48] I mean, I understand with a plow nowadays with it being laser GPS, wherever they run them off of it, but.

Speaker 2:
[11:53] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:54] Digging with a shovel. I mean.

Speaker 2:
[11:55] Yeah. A stick and a monocle.

Speaker 1:
[11:58] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[11:59] You got Mr. Peanut out there saying, yeah, that's good enough. Quit digging there. Yeah. But it turned a bunch of those farms around.

Speaker 1:
[12:08] It did. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[12:08] For a little bit, they could do back then made a huge difference.

Speaker 1:
[12:11] Yeah, it really did.

Speaker 2:
[12:13] You know, and that's where I see you, and I'm not connoisseur or any of this, but you go to different areas, and somebody back in the day planned out these big drainage ditches. That is a godsend because that never happens now.

Speaker 1:
[12:26] No, no, no.

Speaker 2:
[12:26] And you get south of about your house, and the big drainage ditch thing ends pretty quick.

Speaker 1:
[12:30] Yeah, it does. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[12:31] And there's no place down there to drain anything too.

Speaker 1:
[12:36] Oh, I couldn't imagine what these farmers would say nowadays if you said, hey, we're going to come in through here and got a great big ditch, you know, 30 foot wide and 15 foot deep, why they'd have a stroke. Oh, absolutely. They just had to follow the contours. I mean, it was cutting fields in half and whatever.

Speaker 2:
[12:49] Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[12:51] That'd never fly today.

Speaker 2:
[12:52] No, no, absolutely not.

Speaker 1:
[12:57] So I guess we're what, slingshotting around the moon, the way it sounds.

Speaker 2:
[13:00] Yeah, apparently so.

Speaker 1:
[13:01] I like how they keep wording us, you know, go back to the moon. It's like, well, I don't think we're stopping there. Like, I think we're just driving by. I don't know how we're not really going back, in my humble opinion, but...

Speaker 2:
[13:11] I don't know. I try not to keep up with it too much. I don't believe a lot of what they say. That's where I'm at with it. And it doesn't really affect me too much. Space travels, whatever.

Speaker 1:
[13:23] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[13:24] From what I've seen of the interstate system, maybe they autofocus on that.

Speaker 1:
[13:27] Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 2:
[13:29] Yeah, our roads aren't that great. I don't have to worry about flying.

Speaker 1:
[13:32] Yeah. Meanwhile, make sure you shut your lights off and drive electric vehicles, but we're going to just blow how many tons of...

Speaker 2:
[13:39] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[13:41] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[13:41] Yeah. And that's the other thing. So it takes that much to take off the first time, but we can do it on fumes on the way back. No big deal.

Speaker 1:
[13:48] Yeah, I don't get it.

Speaker 2:
[13:50] Sure.

Speaker 1:
[13:51] When it comes to that stuff, I'm pretty skeptical. In fact, they said this evening on the news, they were talking about it. So right now, apparently that thing is 17,000 miles straight up above the earth, and then it's going to have to turn and head towards the moon, like out, you know, or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[14:07] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[14:08] But I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[14:09] That just, now they got somebody doing that math way better than me.

Speaker 1:
[14:13] They get to throw around these numbers and I'm just like, no, you know, that's just, I mean, sure.

Speaker 2:
[14:18] You're not going to sit down and compute it to argue with them. Like they can tell you anything. I just, once they get that big in that ludicrous, it's like, Oh, okay, sure.

Speaker 1:
[14:25] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[14:25] I'll take your word for it. I guess.

Speaker 1:
[14:28] Yeah. That whole outer space deal is a little over my head.

Speaker 2:
[14:33] Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[14:36] If there even is such a thing.

Speaker 2:
[14:37] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[14:37] Oops, I didn't say that.

Speaker 2:
[14:40] I just do my Starlink works good.

Speaker 1:
[14:41] Yeah, exactly. Yep.

Speaker 2:
[14:46] Didn't they have to do something about the lights on that thing, though? Were people complaining about the lights?

Speaker 1:
[14:51] Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[14:52] Seems like I heard that a while back.

Speaker 1:
[14:54] On Starlink?

Speaker 2:
[14:54] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[14:55] Really?

Speaker 2:
[14:56] Because you ever seen those chains go to the sky? Yeah. Which looks cool. But first time was a little weird. I didn't know what it was.

Speaker 1:
[15:01] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[15:03] But, you know, didn't even dawn on me the first time. Thankfully, I was with a group of people and they're like, oh, I think that's this. And I'm like, oh, yeah, that makes perfect sense. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[15:12] Yeah. It looks like missiles coming in or something. Like, it's... Yep.

Speaker 2:
[15:17] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[15:19] Yeah. I don't know what to think about the war either. That's... I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[15:22] Yeah. I don't know. I think it's another classic way to get rid of our aging stock. Let's see how we've had this shit for a minute. Let's go ahead and get rid of that.

Speaker 1:
[15:31] Yeah. I do agree that that regime needed wiped out, but I don't know if I'm... For sure.

Speaker 2:
[15:39] But as soon as those guys start protesting a little bit, it's to let them, all the leaders that we'd wanted getting killed, we should have probably helped them right then.

Speaker 1:
[15:47] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[15:48] You know? I don't know. There's so much misinformation. Who do you believe on any of that?

Speaker 1:
[15:52] I just did. Yeah. Yeah. Then they tell you, well, you know, we've decimated Iran. We've leveled it. Well, then why isn't the Strait of Hormuz open, then?

Speaker 2:
[15:59] Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[16:01] So, I don't know. They don't add up, but whatever.

Speaker 2:
[16:04] We gave them the bottom half of the ocean. We took the top. OK. Well, then apparently they kept the strait. Maybe it's not that deep there. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[16:12] And I don't know. I suppose them idiots over there are too dumb. They'd probably blow everything up. But, you know, at what point in time, you just put a pipeline across, which I don't know what all little countries there are. You know, you start at the Arabian and then when you get to them little fringe countries. But yeah, and just do away with straight. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[16:28] I said that forever the day we landed in Iraq. Actually, the first Gulf War, I had to build a pipeline to the beach. You know, suck that bad boy dry and said, see you guys can have this shithole. Fight all you want.

Speaker 1:
[16:41] We're out. Yeah, I don't know what to think on that shit.

Speaker 2:
[16:45] Yeah, I don't know. There's so much, obviously, politics to it, you know. It's like, oh, we're going to come defend our good neighbor and good friend, the Kuwaitis. Really? Because prior to the Gulf War I, I don't know that I know a single person that had ever heard of Kuwait.

Speaker 1:
[17:04] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[17:04] I mean, I'd never heard it mentioned.

Speaker 1:
[17:06] No.

Speaker 2:
[17:06] Not by name.

Speaker 1:
[17:07] Nope.

Speaker 2:
[17:08] You know, it's like, well, then you find out what they were doing. It's like, we're the sons of the bitches, we're milkshaking Iraq. Like, I don't really blame Saddam on that. Like, he flat told them, you assholes do that. We're coming over, you know. They only got one little sliver of that oil field, and they drilled at an angle 100 miles in on them. It's like, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[17:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[17:29] I kind of think maybe he was in the right on that a little bit. Now probably taking over the whole country. But I don't know. I'd probably done a similar thing if I was.

Speaker 1:
[17:36] Yeah. I mean, is that where we're at with world leaders? Whatever you own currently now, you're not allowed to expand. Like, you know, a thousand years ago, it's like, well, hell, I want this country and this and this, and you just went in and you took them, where now it's like everybody gets all huffy about it.

Speaker 2:
[17:50] Yeah. Yeah. I think we can thank Britain for screwing a bunch of that up.

Speaker 1:
[17:56] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[17:56] Because they owned half the world or more at one time and couldn't manage to control any of it, other than one small little island in the end.

Speaker 1:
[18:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[18:04] The only thing they accomplished is getting several people driving on the wrong side of the road.

Speaker 1:
[18:07] Yeah. To think that little dipshit nation did control the bulk of the world at one time.

Speaker 2:
[18:13] Absolutely. That's what a good Navy, I guess, will get you back in the day.

Speaker 1:
[18:17] I guess, yeah. The old redcoats. American's cheating, wearing camo, hiding in the brush. Get out here and fight like a man.

Speaker 2:
[18:25] Yeah. You sick bastards. We're going to beat our drum and sound our horn and wear red. Stand here and fight like a man. I think I'm just going to hide behind this tree and shoot your ass.

Speaker 1:
[18:34] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[18:35] Seems like a better plan.

Speaker 1:
[18:37] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[18:38] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[18:39] Yep. Wasn't gentlemanly.

Speaker 2:
[18:42] We didn't have the textile industry to have uniforms for anybody anyway. It's like maybe we wanted to wear purple, but we just physically couldn't pull it off.

Speaker 1:
[18:48] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[18:50] They're just damn lucky we didn't have more munitions or whatever. Yeah. We really could have wiped them out quick.

Speaker 1:
[18:58] Yeah. What a time to have been alive back then. What a deal.

Speaker 2:
[19:01] Yeah. I'm good on the flintlock shit like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:04] God.

Speaker 2:
[19:04] Hold on a second. Let me get my powder on.

Speaker 1:
[19:06] They talk about these wars lasted years. Well, it fucking took you that long to reload.

Speaker 2:
[19:09] No shit.

Speaker 1:
[19:10] It's in the service nine years and shot three times.

Speaker 2:
[19:13] I saw Mel Gibson. You got to plant a gun behind every tree so you can run from one to the other. And he still ended up using the hatchet.

Speaker 1:
[19:19] Yeah, he did.

Speaker 2:
[19:21] Can you imagine having a real modern weapon back then?

Speaker 1:
[19:25] Oh, God. Just any sort of a Gatlin gun or any guy or something. I mean, talk about easy pickings. A British roll stander lined up in rows.

Speaker 2:
[19:33] Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[19:34] 20 deep.

Speaker 2:
[19:35] Carlos Hathcock, 100 and some confirmed kills or 92 or whatever it was. I got that for breakfast, you know. I didn't have a big deal at all. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:44] I can't imagine the gruesome, though, of getting wounded, you know, back then with no anesthesia, no sanitary.

Speaker 2:
[19:50] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[19:50] God, what a mess.

Speaker 2:
[19:52] What a mess. Yeah. Absolutely. And that's why at some point in time, I think no matter what war it was back in there, somebody's like, hey, we're kind of tired of this shit. Like, yeah, we might be able to win this, but we're just done doing it, you know? Yeah. And we're about out of men to send. Yeah. You know, no matter what war it was, like you're running thin at some point.

Speaker 1:
[20:13] Well, think of back then, you know, how much harder labor was, you know, like just to build a simple house or whatever. How long?

Speaker 2:
[20:18] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:19] You had to cut the trees down, make the boards, you know, the every process, you know, and then these assholes come in and level your shit, you know.

Speaker 2:
[20:25] Burn it all. It's like, God damn it. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:28] No insurance, no nothing. You're screwed.

Speaker 2:
[20:31] Yeah, absolutely. So now you're trying to build your new house with, you know, some steel lodged in you from a bullet wound.

Speaker 1:
[20:39] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[20:39] You can't use your one shoulder.

Speaker 1:
[20:41] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[20:42] You're 10 years older than you were when you did it the last time. It's like, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:45] That's what always makes me wonder, like you see all this weird shit on TikTok, and I'm not saying I believe any of it, but they talk about civilizations 2,000, 3,000 years ago, and it does make sense. It's like, so this was the most primitive stuff you could get. Everything was done with a hammer and a chisel, and they're building these giant, humongous buildings, and they're taking the time to carve all this stuff into the building. Like, I mean, is that believable? Like, I mean, how does that work? Like back then, it's like, man, let's just get a roof over our head. We don't need the decorations. We don't need nothing else. But I don't know. I guess if you got slave labor or whatever, maybe it does help.

Speaker 2:
[21:18] I mean, people take the time to carve shit into the urinal walls, which still boggles my mind, too. Never once have I been in a restaurant and said, you know what I should do? Carve my name into this steel panel that keeps that guy from being able to see my junk.

Speaker 1:
[21:30] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[21:31] Let me get my pocket knife out. But those guys, I suppose they were there, just building shit. I guess they had time on their hands at some point. Once the work was done, I guess we'll carve a picture in here. How many of those guys were smartasses like us? Like, hey, let's carve a bunch of stupid shit in there. A thousand years from now, I'm just going to find this. And he's going to think that we had the wheel or whatever. We're just randomly carving shit, random shapes.

Speaker 1:
[21:58] Yeah, that's even like the pyramids. I'm still torn on how that deal went down.

Speaker 2:
[22:02] I mean, I saw a great one on that the other day. And the theory on that was they didn't cut those, they didn't drag giant stones in there like they cast them right there.

Speaker 1:
[22:12] I seen that.

Speaker 2:
[22:13] And that makes way more sense.

Speaker 1:
[22:14] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[22:14] That's why they're symmetrical. That's why they stack good.

Speaker 1:
[22:16] Right.

Speaker 2:
[22:17] So on and so forth. And that makes more sense to me that we hooked 200 men and ropes to this thing and drag it, drug it 15 miles.

Speaker 1:
[22:25] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[22:25] Like that seems a little far-fetched.

Speaker 1:
[22:28] Yeah, I don't know. That would be way easier to carry the mortar, whatever you want to call it, up to the forms at the top versus... Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[22:36] Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[22:39] Yeah, I don't know that.

Speaker 2:
[22:41] Yeah, probably never know.

Speaker 1:
[22:44] And it makes you wonder, some of that stuff, how much weird stuff has happened over the years. It just happened to be plain coincidence that it worked out that way, where nowadays everybody's trying to read into it, and it was this and this. That's like, well, sometimes things just happen.

Speaker 2:
[22:56] Sometimes it's just shit and un-luck. Yeah. That's how it ended up being. There wasn't this big master plan by this leader.

Speaker 1:
[23:03] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[23:04] He just happened to find all this sand over here mixes well with this. Let's build something over here. Yeah. I don't know. The other thing is, certain civilizations were perfectly content living in a little bit of nothing, but the one that conquers them, well, we got to have something bigger and better than that. Those guys were perfectly happy before, but we killed them all. So we got to build all this other shit because we burned all their shit down. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[23:34] That is weird, though, like when you see countries in Africa today, you know, there's still dirt poor that just live like nothing. I mean, of course, I guess they don't know any better. They like they got the technology to see how we live.

Speaker 2:
[23:46] No, and they're probably happy.

Speaker 1:
[23:48] They probably are.

Speaker 2:
[23:48] You know, think about how much time we spend. Just take your cell phone, for instance, take any technology. How much time do you spend trying to make that thing work like it's supposed to work?

Speaker 1:
[23:57] A lot.

Speaker 2:
[23:58] A lot. It's like, did that really make my life any easier? Because now I got this whole set of problems that I didn't even know I had before. Trying to get this shit to work. Honestly, you and I didn't have those problems as kids because we grew up before all that shit. You know, your biggest problem back then was your damn big foot with the two levers on the top, the AA batteries were dead for the 14th time that day, and your parents finally said, we're out of batteries. You know?

Speaker 1:
[24:18] Right. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, cell phones, in a way, they've made life easier, but in a way, they've made it harder, too. You can't get away from nobody or nothing.

Speaker 2:
[24:25] I mean, I finally got mad the other day and shut mine off at the end of the day. Didn't turn back on until about 8 o'clock, and that was the most peaceful evening I had in quite some time. No, that shit works as seamlessly as it's supposed to. Electronics have no moving parts, they sell them last as long as they're supposed to, you know.

Speaker 1:
[24:47] Well, and even when you compare the way you and I live to somebody's dirt-borne Africa versus comparing us to the uber wealthy, look at the maintenance that they have just on the houses and the landscaping and the just... I mean, they can keep five guys employed year round just maintaining the place.

Speaker 2:
[25:05] We've seen it around here, I mean, every farming community has, you know, old lady who ever dies, and nothing happens with that house for a year or two. And then it just, it's in shambles within a year or two, you know, it goes down fast if somebody's not doing all the things all the time, you know, it takes one plug gutter, the next thing you know, the house needs renovated. The landscaping screwed, the yard's messed up, you gotta dig a whole bunch of shit up.

Speaker 1:
[25:27] The house is full of mold.

Speaker 2:
[25:28] Yeah, it just goes to shit fast.

Speaker 1:
[25:31] Yeah, it's crazy how that happens. Yep.

Speaker 2:
[25:35] Yeah, I don't know. Some days, I think the technology is more trouble than it's worth.

Speaker 1:
[25:43] Well, you and I was talking earlier. Take Kinsey Planters, for example. I'm not knocking Kinsey. That's a fine American company. I have nothing against Kinsey. And a lot of people, the argument that I personally hear is, oh, they're so simple, they're so simple. I'm not speaking for the brand new stuff, but guys around here that's bought one that's 10 years old or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[25:59] 3600 or whatever, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[26:00] And they're right, they are simple, but then they put all this fancy shit on them and complicate them.

Speaker 2:
[26:04] Precision shit on it or whatever, and then it's like, well, this doesn't work. And I got like, you bought it because it was simple. Now you've made it complicated. Now you're mad about it. You know, it's like, I don't know. I said, none of that shit, whether it's back from a Walkman to GPS shit, it just doesn't work as long as it should, you know? How much time have you spent switching your house over to LED light bulbs or those stupid Curly-Q light bulbs only to find out they last a third of the time as the incandescent one that was in there for the last 40 years, you know?

Speaker 1:
[26:34] Well, like electronics, there's no moving parts in there. Like, what's going wrong?

Speaker 2:
[26:37] Yeah, what's going wrong with it? That is frustrating, super frustrating. And it's like, I got a new antenna for the shop computer the other day for the Wi-Fi.

Speaker 1:
[26:45] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[26:45] Now you got to install a driver and just set it in the other. It's 2026. That shouldn't be a thing anymore.

Speaker 1:
[26:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[26:54] I should just plug it in, and it should work. Doesn't seem that complicated, and I will give Apple credit for that. Like, you don't have to do that shit on theirs. Now it doesn't cooperate with anything else other than Apple shit. But their shit just works. On that, you hit on, and the screen just comes on. Like, it doesn't take 45 minutes to boot up and all this other dumb shit. And then the stupid virus software. Could we just sell a guy virus software? It's lifetime virus software.

Speaker 1:
[27:17] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[27:18] Doesn't pop up every two seconds saying, you need to renew it, you need to do this, you need to do that. It just works.

Speaker 1:
[27:23] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[27:23] You know? As soon as you renew it and get it, it updates something, well, then your computer just doesn't work at all. Well, that's great. That's just Jim Dandy.

Speaker 1:
[27:30] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[27:31] And why don't we find the guys doing the viruses and drag them out in the street and quarter them.

Speaker 1:
[27:34] Agreed.

Speaker 2:
[27:35] And then maybe they won't build viruses anymore.

Speaker 1:
[27:37] Because I think the people building the virus software build the viruses. So you got to buy their software.

Speaker 2:
[27:41] Funny how that works, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[27:43] Yep. Create the problem and the solution.

Speaker 2:
[27:46] All in one.

Speaker 1:
[27:47] But yeah, all this GPS shit on the Stratris. Like, my stuff works fine for the most part. I mean, don't have a ton of trouble, but when it does, that's the day that it pisses you off. It's like, I should have just fucking been like it was 50 years ago and just drive this son of a bitch.

Speaker 2:
[28:00] Yeah. You know, I could take my big combine. It's basically a 23D in a Q-dress. But if you kill it, you're going to get the laptop out, guarantee it. Nine times out of ten. It's going to say the engine data set registry, some bullshit, and you're going to have to go in. It's literally, once you get the software all booted up, it's like two clicks. Then you're good to go again. But if you don't have the laptop, you're down for three days over something that really shouldn't even happen. Like, just give me a P-pump and a throttle cable.

Speaker 1:
[28:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[28:29] Wow, so frustrating.

Speaker 1:
[28:31] Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2:
[28:32] I'll turn the key on. It starts.

Speaker 1:
[28:34] Yeah, I think there's a lot of people getting to that point anymore. It just, they've took it too far. I mean, just stop with the technology.

Speaker 2:
[28:41] Well, for one, how about we never derate something? I have never needed something derated. You can tell me something's wrong, and then I need to fix it in its emergency with a big red flash and light. But I don't need to derate, ever, under any circumstance. If I want to burn that son of a bitch to the ground, let me burn it to the ground. If it's going to implode, because this condition's off. And the other thing is what irks me about engine monitoring is, okay, this thing's monitoring all this stuff and it knows all this stuff to make it work correctly, right? Something goes bad, oh, it has no idea. The diagnostics are like 45 years removed behind the software that controls it. Now, this thing monitors all, it should know exactly what's wrong with itself. It should tell you that. No, it might be this, might be that. Okay, whatever. I've said for years, don't give me any of that shit, just tie it to the air conditioner and the radio. You got low coolant, the air conditioner quits, the radio shuts off. Guarantee somebody stops and puts antifreeze in it then.

Speaker 1:
[29:34] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[29:35] I don't need to derate, so I get killed in the middle of the road. I just need to know, hey, I'm going to get hot. If I'm hot, the tractor must be hot, I'll put some coolant in it, you know?

Speaker 1:
[29:43] Agreed.

Speaker 2:
[29:45] And it seems like all this newer shit is always low on coolant. Where does it go? What are we doing with it? It doesn't have any leaks, it's not burning it. Magically, every spring, every fall, 10 guys I talked to, their shit's low on coolant, they didn't know, they get about a half mile from the house, they let it run for two hours in the driveway, it was fine. As soon as they take off down the road, now they're sitting along the road. Doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 1:
[30:09] No, it's out of control.

Speaker 2:
[30:11] Seems like it could be easier.

Speaker 1:
[30:12] Yep. Yeah, I don't get it. You know, they always give you these alarms, that, oh, you got to shut this thing down immediately, but we're not going to give you, we're going to derate it so you can't get anywhere to shut it down. It's going to be in the most unhandy spot you could imagine.

Speaker 2:
[30:24] Absolutely. Yeah. Your old 78 gets low on coolant, guess what happens? The heat gauge goes over. You're like, oh, this thing's running kind of warm.

Speaker 1:
[30:32] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[30:32] I better check the coolant. No alarm, no bullshit, doesn't derate it. If you want to run it wide open to your next location where you can pull off, you can. Now, it might be junk when you get there.

Speaker 1:
[30:40] Right.

Speaker 2:
[30:41] But then the problem is pretty easy to find. Oh shit, I got this thing hot. Now I need cylinder heads or whatever. Okay. Noted. Won't do that again. Instead, you get killed in the middle of the road because this thing just stopped. Well, all it needed was a gallon of water, but instead I got mowed down by a semi because well, I couldn't go anywhere.

Speaker 1:
[30:57] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[30:58] Super handy.

Speaker 1:
[31:00] Yeah. It's unreal.

Speaker 2:
[31:01] You think they do that on trains?

Speaker 1:
[31:03] I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[31:04] Obviously on planes, I don't think they derate.

Speaker 1:
[31:06] I don't think. I hope not.

Speaker 2:
[31:09] I think they just push through and let you know that, hey, when you land, you're going to have somebody look at that.

Speaker 1:
[31:14] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[31:14] Assuming you get the opportunity to land.

Speaker 1:
[31:16] Right.

Speaker 2:
[31:17] You're going to have that looked at.

Speaker 1:
[31:18] I don't know in the locomotive industry, you know how computerized and shit that has. I have no idea.

Speaker 2:
[31:23] To see them go by, they look like they were all built when I was a kid.

Speaker 1:
[31:25] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[31:26] But I'm sure they're newer than that at some level.

Speaker 1:
[31:28] Which they never had emissions or anything, right? Because wasn't that the whole big deal when they...

Speaker 2:
[31:32] I think, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:33] Come out of these new big tractors and took the death off of them. That's locomotive class or whatever they call it.

Speaker 2:
[31:38] It's enough horsepower that it's past that. Which, how did it take 30-some years to realize that?

Speaker 1:
[31:43] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[31:44] Like, day two, aren't you flipping through the book and be like, oh shit, 600, 700 horses.

Speaker 1:
[31:50] Here's a loophole.

Speaker 2:
[31:51] Is the minimum?

Speaker 1:
[31:52] Hmm.

Speaker 2:
[31:53] Call Cummins up. Tell him, what's the more KTA 1150s made? And we need it to be 750. Because we were 525 in the 80s, and then we went down for some reason, and then put a bunch of emissions shit on it. Like, how about we just go big and get around that? And who's monitoring that? If Deere wants to re-release your 8200 tomorrow with no emissions, can they just claim it's 700 horse?

Speaker 1:
[32:18] Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[32:18] I mean, is the US government bringing all these in and dine on them? Like, oh, nope, this one's only 699. Going to need some emissions on that.

Speaker 1:
[32:25] Like, yeah, good point.

Speaker 2:
[32:26] Because they underrated cars for years. I mean, that's how they got around a bunch of insurance shit in the muscle car era, so on and so forth. Like, who's regulating that? Nope, that 8200X is 700 horse. It doesn't need emissions.

Speaker 1:
[32:37] And tractors, you got PTO or draw bar, which is a big difference.

Speaker 2:
[32:39] Yeah, nope. So we get in there. Oh, this one just must be a dog.

Speaker 1:
[32:43] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[32:43] You know, I don't, yeah, there's so much bullshit on all that. Meanwhile, the government has none of that on any of their shit. No.

Speaker 1:
[32:50] But I still think that's where all them companies should just flow the big fuck you to them, and we ain't doing it. I guess we just don't make tractors no more.

Speaker 2:
[32:56] Yep. Absolutely. We're out of the game, I guess. And oh, by the way, the first thing we're not making is any military equipment.

Speaker 1:
[33:01] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[33:01] Fire trucks, et cetera. Like, figure it out.

Speaker 1:
[33:04] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[33:05] Woodstrom's trying to back it off for some or whatever, but I don't see that going anywhere long term.

Speaker 1:
[33:10] I mean, what he does, the next guy can redo. I mean, how do you navigate that?

Speaker 2:
[33:15] That's why I haven't seen any engine companies just jumping up and down, tearing that shit off, leaps and bounds. Now, I saw the deal the other day that, you know, the big farm summit deal he had at the White House, he's going to demand those companies take that shit off and lower the price. Okay. They might take it off. I doubt they lower the price. They're going to increase their margin, but I doubt they lower the price. Maybe half of what it cost. You know, if it cost them $10,000, put the emission shit on, the price might go down five, but it ain't going down the full value.

Speaker 1:
[33:42] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[33:44] Because now they're going to be like, well, now it's a better piece than you had before. Hell, if anything, we're going to raise the price.

Speaker 1:
[33:47] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[33:48] You know?

Speaker 1:
[33:49] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[33:50] Which, honestly, there's days if you could buy shit that didn't have any of that on there. I don't know that people care what it costs. If they can just buy one that works for a long time.

Speaker 1:
[33:57] Oh, I think so. Yeah. Yep. So I wonder now, will they take vehicles that's been deleted? Because that was always a big deal before. What, you couldn't trade it in? They'd been deleted, so can they take them now?

Speaker 2:
[34:09] I have no idea how that works. And there again, you hear all this rhetoric, but I haven't seen any manufacturers do anything about it or any legislation signed. Yeah, or anything actually on the backside of it, so who knows? Yeah. It's all for show for the most part, probably.

Speaker 1:
[34:25] Yeah, a lot of talk.

Speaker 2:
[34:28] It sounds good, probably won't ever come to anything.

Speaker 1:
[34:32] That's the bad part when it comes to, if you get a politician who does care, and I'm not touting Donald Trump, because I just swore off politics, I don't give a shit about any of it, but I mean, they're not in there long enough to make change. Government moves so slow. Now, I guess that's good if you get a dip shit like we had prior to Trump. You can't get him out of there fast enough, but if you get somebody in there that's actually decent, well, in four years, he's gone.

Speaker 2:
[34:56] The wheels move pretty slow.

Speaker 1:
[34:57] Yeah, you just can't get nothing done.

Speaker 2:
[34:59] It seems like bad regulation goes really fast.

Speaker 1:
[35:01] Absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[35:02] Good regulation is slow. And at what point in time do they have to be held accountable for their stupid decisions? Yeah. Let's just say, for instance, that I'm mailing the government a check, and the post office loses it, and then the government says, hey, we've never got your money. I mailed it. Well, you're going to have to do it again. No, no, no. Once you call your sister organization, you have them track it down. I did my part. You guys lost it. As far as I'm concerned, you're all one big entity. So you call the postmaster and figure out where it went. I don't see why I'm doing your job. I'm already paying you to do your job.

Speaker 1:
[35:40] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[35:41] Why do I have to do your job for you? It seems like you guys all track it down yourself.

Speaker 1:
[35:45] It's no different than if you sue the government. You're paying for your lawyer plus their lawyer.

Speaker 2:
[35:50] I mean, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. At some point in time, 300 million people are going to have to realize that we have more power than 535. You know, everybody's too stuck on the left versus right, and they just are too dumb to stand up on. I mean, you think back to slavery, I always thought that several times. There's 200 of you. Like, a couple of you might go down on your way to the guy with the whip, but it seems like you could take him in a rush, you know?

Speaker 1:
[36:20] It sure seems like it.

Speaker 2:
[36:21] Seems like maybe that would be an easier deal. But we're just as bad.

Speaker 1:
[36:26] Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:28] We're not doing anything about it either. You know, you're gonna take these five cops' decisions on how they think this ought to go, you know?

Speaker 1:
[36:37] Yep. Yeah, in a way, it ain't much different than slavery now, except we ain't got somebody's center beating us with a whip, but I mean, all the money you're making is going right to the king. I mean, you're not keeping much of it.

Speaker 2:
[36:47] No. You know, I think it all started over a little bit of tea tax, and to get where it's at now, and nobody seems to care. They just keep raising it and raising it and raising it.

Speaker 1:
[36:57] Yep. And keep voting ourselves. You know, hey, we need to raise money for the school. As soon as you mention school, there's that people just line up to take the tax increase.

Speaker 2:
[37:03] Well, I've told you before, Tony, there's one thing I know about education, and that is there's absolutely no way you can educate a kid in an old building.

Speaker 1:
[37:10] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:10] Can't be done.

Speaker 1:
[37:11] That's what they tell us.

Speaker 2:
[37:12] You can't pull it off. It's got to be pretty new. It's got to be pretty renovated. You know, it's got to be pretty uptown or you just can't, there's no way you can teach them.

Speaker 1:
[37:20] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[37:21] Yeah. I didn't realize math had changed that much, but apparently it has.

Speaker 1:
[37:27] Yeah, I think it has. Unreal.

Speaker 2:
[37:30] Yeah. Like I said, we're to the point that it's going to have to make a big swing back the other way sometime. I don't know. I was just talking to a buddy of mine about that. Not that in general, but, you know, back to the COVID thing, which we beat that horse up quite a bit over the years. But, you know, if that happens again, I'm going to take the, you must be vaxed, you must wear a mask crowd's attitude, if something like that happens again. I'm going to berate, belittle, just be an ass, so on and so forth, from the get-go. But only in my direction, not, you know, towards them. Like, I'm not participating, and you're an asshole for participating, because that's basically what they called me the whole time. Oh, it turns out you guys were right. We're not going to apologize to you or any of that. But yeah, the whole economy would have collapsed if we'd have done everything that the government told us to do. Damn the luck. Nope, I'm going to be a complete ass and shove it right back after me. Hopefully nothing like that ever happens again, but you know there'll be a version of it again at some point.

Speaker 1:
[38:29] Yeah, for sure. What a time to be alive.

Speaker 2:
[38:33] The lack of common sense in that whole deal.

Speaker 1:
[38:35] Oh, it was just...

Speaker 2:
[38:36] I don't know if I mentioned this before, that somebody's going to Buffalo Wild Wings, and we usually go in from the patio. I wasn't with them that day, but they went in from the patio and sat at the first table by the patio door. The waitress comes over and says, hey, you have to wear a mask to your table once you sit down, then you can take your mask off. I'm like, okay, next time we will. And they're like, no, you have to go back outside, put your mask on, come back in, sit down, then you can take it off. They were already seated at this point at the table. She said they could sit at. They just got up and left. It's like, you have to apply a little logic to the situation, you know?

Speaker 1:
[39:10] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[39:13] But apparently we couldn't pull off this equipment, so...

Speaker 1:
[39:15] Nope, that was true that the lemming's walking right off the cliff, whatever somebody said.

Speaker 2:
[39:19] Absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[39:19] Made zero sense, but that's what they said, so that's what we got to do.

Speaker 2:
[39:23] Yeah. We got kids out there playing sports with a mask around their chin.

Speaker 1:
[39:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[39:28] You know, as long as they've got it around their ears and blow their chin out, that's good enough, really. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[39:33] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[39:33] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:34] And meanwhile, Gavin Newsom, JB. Pritzker, everybody else, they're flying all over the country and going here and going there. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[39:41] Yeah. Now, there was some things about COVID I liked there in the beginning.

Speaker 1:
[39:47] Oh, same.

Speaker 2:
[39:47] I had to go do anything.

Speaker 1:
[39:50] No cars on the road.

Speaker 2:
[39:51] There was a few bright spots in there, but man, it drastically changed the world on things that you don't even realize. Supply chains, just companies that went under, products that got discontinued, so on and so forth. And we'll feel the effects of that forever, really.

Speaker 1:
[40:08] Oh, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[40:08] I think that's never going to solve itself 100%, you know?

Speaker 1:
[40:12] Yeah, that was... That would have been about six years ago right now, when that was just getting going. I think they called school off right at the end of March for the rest of the year.

Speaker 2:
[40:22] Well, it was right. It was in between the volleyball regional championship and the prelim game.

Speaker 1:
[40:32] Was it?

Speaker 2:
[40:33] I think, well, I think we got the regional championship and we won the regional that year, but then the state tournament kept getting postponed, then it got canceled. So it had been a little bit before now.

Speaker 1:
[40:42] Well, I'm trying to think, the NCAA tour, did they cancel the whole thing or do they play like the first round and then cancel?

Speaker 2:
[40:47] Well, I don't remember now.

Speaker 1:
[40:49] I think they might have got the first round in. I don't remember.

Speaker 2:
[40:53] That does seem right. I don't remember now. Remember, we got the farm show in, and got that tractor pull in, and then had it again the next year, if I remember right, because it kind of chilled out in the meantime.

Speaker 1:
[41:06] Yeah, nothing walked down here until in March.

Speaker 2:
[41:09] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[41:10] I knew it was just getting going everywhere else, but.

Speaker 2:
[41:14] But man, did that mess up a lot of things.

Speaker 1:
[41:18] Yes, it did. And we didn't really see the full effect locally, because we basically flattened the curve in six days, and we said, it.

Speaker 2:
[41:26] It's good enough. We're going to go broke if we try to flatten it any longer to heck with it.

Speaker 1:
[41:29] Bars, restaurants, hell, it was all open.

Speaker 2:
[41:31] Yeah. You want to, you don't like it, that's fine. Don't come. You know, the rest of us are going to live on. You know, my my biggest pet peeve during that time was was probably church stuff. Like I'm not willing to cancel church over that. If you're scared, stay home. Like the last place I think I'm going to get something that kills me is church. And if it does, I'm OK with that. I'm a church. Can't think of a better way to go. Like if you're that scared of it, I don't know that you're getting the full yeah, the full deal here, you know. But and just the stupid shit. Oh, we're going to wipe this down with a dry rag. We're going to do just the ridiculousness. All that. So dumb.

Speaker 1:
[42:12] Go to a drive through the you had to do everything through a box, you know, that everybody else was finger banging the whole time.

Speaker 2:
[42:17] You know, makes no sense. Plexiglass.

Speaker 1:
[42:21] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:21] That whole deal was probably done by a big plexiglass conglomerate.

Speaker 1:
[42:24] Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:25] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[42:25] 3M and plexiglass.

Speaker 2:
[42:27] Well, let's face it. Once they took smoking out of restaurants, those guys had a shitload of plexiglass left over there.

Speaker 1:
[42:32] That's right.

Speaker 2:
[42:33] Hey, we got to find a way to sell this shit.

Speaker 1:
[42:35] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:35] Hey, let's make this deal up.

Speaker 1:
[42:41] God.

Speaker 2:
[42:42] I told the guy yesterday at lunch, the hostess said, I don't know where she'd went. There were some people coming to the restaurant. I almost went to the front and been smoking or not.

Speaker 1:
[42:51] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:52] Because it was a young enough group of people, they would have no clue what I'm talking about. So the only person laughing about it would have been me and my dipshit buddies, but it had been funny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you sit on this side of the McDonald's, you'll never know. It's fine. That side has ashtrays made out of foil.

Speaker 1:
[43:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[43:13] They also fly across the room very well. Yeah. Little frisbees. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:18] Back in the day, you could smoke anywhere. You could smoke in Walmart, the mall. I mean, you could anywhere. Nobody cared.

Speaker 2:
[43:24] Yeah. And that was my one thing, whether you smoke or not, like when they mandated private businesses did not allow it, then it's like, oh, shit, they can do that.

Speaker 1:
[43:35] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[43:36] You know, oh, you can't smoke in this bar anymore. Well, I own the bar. Why can't I let them do it? You know, not me personally, but as a bar owner, let's say, what's to say they don't come out and say you can't drink? Then what am I doing in my bar? Like, you know, because now you can't play cards in a bar. You can't smoke in a bar. It's just a matter of time where you can't drink in the damn thing.

Speaker 1:
[43:55] You know what I've always said? Let's take it the other way. Let's mandate you have to smoke in here.

Speaker 2:
[44:00] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:00] I mean, are people OK with that? I mean, yeah, they never look at both sides.

Speaker 2:
[44:05] It's always I never understood the people. Oh, you have to wear your seatbelt. Why? It's my car.

Speaker 1:
[44:13] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[44:14] I get having to strap kids in this end of the day. They don't have the choice. Or don't know any better. Whatever. But if I don't want to wear mine, I don't see where that's a concern of the government.

Speaker 1:
[44:24] But I always got tired of that deal, though, with the no smoking at the bars, all these other people. Well, I'm glad you and I don't come home smelling like smoke. Well, guess what? People do at bars. They smoke and they drink. So if you don't like it, don't go.

Speaker 2:
[44:34] Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it never stopped a single person from going prior to that.

Speaker 1:
[44:39] Exactly. You know, and I still say it comes back to a guy over east of here after they passed out, was standing outside smoking in the car, ran off the highway and hit and killed him. So I mean, can you sue now? Because I would never been out there if I could have smoked in the bar.

Speaker 2:
[44:51] Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I don't know. Freedom keeps getting chipped away at it does.

Speaker 1:
[45:01] And when it's gone, you don't get it back. You don't ask me why, because I don't know why you can't stroke the pen one way or the other. But once it's gone, you never get it back like rolling back a government program.

Speaker 2:
[45:09] You can never eliminate one. You can roll them back a little bit, but you can never, never stop them.

Speaker 1:
[45:14] Anyway, enough about that shit. So seeing the math show looked like it was a success. I was actually wanting to go down there, surprise Charlie. And then we had volleyball tournaments and everything. Imagine what's going on.

Speaker 2:
[45:25] It's like the busiest weekend ever, yeah. Now that is a cool show. I would like to get down there sometime.

Speaker 1:
[45:29] I've never been to it, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[45:30] I've never been.

Speaker 1:
[45:31] I'd like to go and look like I had good weather for it.

Speaker 2:
[45:34] I didn't see any custom Volvo, so I was a little disappointed there.

Speaker 1:
[45:36] Yeah, yeah. I seen something on the internet that apparently one of them big companies had some fancy show truck, but they wrapped it. Which the way I understood it was they cleaned it all up and they wrapped it and took it down there and then peeled the wrap off of it.

Speaker 2:
[45:51] No kidding.

Speaker 1:
[45:52] And everybody was bitching about it and this and that. I thought it was kind of a genius thing.

Speaker 2:
[45:55] That seems like a smart play.

Speaker 1:
[45:57] But I don't know if they just wrapped it in something plain or if they've done something cool. I don't know, but they peeled it off when they got there.

Speaker 2:
[46:05] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[46:06] Other than that, I don't really know what happened. I never seen before and after pictures of it.

Speaker 2:
[46:10] I saw one of those really nice rigs get in a wreck on the way home.

Speaker 1:
[46:13] Oh, no shit.

Speaker 2:
[46:13] That was an old cab over in some fashion. It was pretty sweet until it got into a fender bender with a car, which is too bad.

Speaker 1:
[46:21] I've never heard how many trucks or people go to that thing.

Speaker 2:
[46:24] I don't really know. Yeah, like I said, I've never been. I've just seen the videos of it, so on and so forth.

Speaker 1:
[46:29] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[46:31] It amazes me the detail that those guys go to.

Speaker 1:
[46:35] It is crazy.

Speaker 2:
[46:36] I mean, I appreciate all the bolt heads turned the same direction, you know.

Speaker 1:
[46:39] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[46:39] Valve stems all lined up, so on and so forth.

Speaker 1:
[46:43] I don't know how they keep all the chicken lights working. Like, that's the feed in and of itself.

Speaker 2:
[46:46] No doubt. You know, those guys, you know, not too far from here, Nelson's had a truck. Absolutely gorgeous. Like, I'm not a Pee-Dee-Rill guy, per se, but I mean, I like the way they look. And that one is in my colors. You know, it's got a little red on it. It was white and silver and red. Like, just a beautiful truck. But I had seen the videos prior to Matt's, and it's just a bare frame, you know, in a shop, and they're centered now. Like, them putting that all back together is a task, and putting together work, literally every I is dotted and T is crossed, where it's just perfect. Full well knowing that they're going to go past the shop with that thing in two weeks.

Speaker 1:
[47:23] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[47:24] Hauling stuff by is amazing to me a little bit, you know? Yeah. Like, and their stuff always looks nice, and so on and so forth, but just all those show truck stuff, like there's just a lot of detail to all that, that just boggles the mind a little bit when you get down to it.

Speaker 1:
[47:39] Yeah, and I don't know how big the show inside is. Like, when they have the Louisville Farm Show, they got semi stuff inside, but I don't know if it takes up half or...

Speaker 2:
[47:48] It takes up the North Wing and the South Wing, I think. Beyond that, I don't know, because I think the West Wing had pulling tractors in it.

Speaker 1:
[47:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[47:56] I don't know about the rest.

Speaker 1:
[47:57] Well, you and I watched the pull here in the shop on the live stream. Looked like there's a lot of people there, I mean, for being a truck show.

Speaker 2:
[48:04] And to think they had a concert in there the night before.

Speaker 1:
[48:06] Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. I seen them TikToks.

Speaker 2:
[48:08] The videos that there's chairs set up and so on and so forth. I'm told that there's rumors that next year, the poll is going to be Thursday, Friday, and the concert's Saturday.

Speaker 1:
[48:17] Gotcha.

Speaker 2:
[48:18] But I don't know if that's true. I just, that's what a buddy of mine was telling me today. Whether or not that's true, I don't know. But that would be probably better for everybody if it was.

Speaker 1:
[48:25] True.

Speaker 2:
[48:26] Yeah. The problem with bringing that track in, in that short of time is it's hard to get the moisture just right. It's hard to get the air out of it. The longer it can lay in there, then you can work it down, the better off it is. Makes sense. It's no different than laying a bunch of dirt into your yard. It's got to settle a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[48:45] Yeah, that's if he didn't of itself just put the pole on, let alone everything else.

Speaker 2:
[48:50] The track at Louisville is always good, but got way better once they quit playing basketball in there. Because they used to have a Tuesday game, and then they bring a track in Wednesday, so on and so forth. Well, since they don't put basketball in there anymore, don't have as many events in there, they can put it in a little earlier, and that seems to benefit it from my view. It seems to make a difference.

Speaker 1:
[49:14] Yeah. Yeah, I need to get down there one of these days.

Speaker 2:
[49:17] Yeah. Yeah, it would be a cool show to go to.

Speaker 1:
[49:20] I guess what it looks like, too, they parade them trucks around the fair.

Speaker 2:
[49:25] Circle of champions.

Speaker 1:
[49:26] Yeah, whatever that is. Yeah. I kind of gathered like that, you can just kind of do that whenever. Like, that's just kind of open. And maybe I'm wrong on that. Maybe there's only certain times.

Speaker 2:
[49:33] Yeah, I don't know. I would assume you're doing whatever.

Speaker 1:
[49:35] Yeah, I've seen TikToks of just all hours of the day, guys taking off and running the loop.

Speaker 2:
[49:40] Well, they probably have to charge the batteries back up.

Speaker 1:
[49:41] Well, it could be.

Speaker 2:
[49:42] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[49:43] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[49:45] Yeah. I can't keep the mandatory lights working, let alone the other four.

Speaker 1:
[49:48] That ain't no kidding.

Speaker 2:
[49:49] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[49:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[49:51] Yeah. There's no small feat on some of those. Those are gorgeous trucks. The interior detail on some of those is just just unbelievable.

Speaker 1:
[50:01] There's somebody got that one. I'm going to call it a rat rod. That's what you'd call it in the car world, but you've probably seen it. It's a black. Well, if that's an auto car or a Peterbilt, whatever, and got all that shit on it.

Speaker 2:
[50:13] Kind of Mad Max style or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[50:15] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[50:16] Yeah. No, that is cool in and of itself, you know.

Speaker 1:
[50:19] Is that an auto car or what it looks? Kind of looks like the semi off over the top, style wise. That was an auto car, I think.

Speaker 2:
[50:26] Yeah, I don't know. That was a Marmon, wasn't it?

Speaker 1:
[50:31] Oh, actually, maybe it was.

Speaker 2:
[50:32] I think over the top was a Marmon.

Speaker 1:
[50:33] I think it was.

Speaker 2:
[50:34] I think. Well, it might have been an auto car. Hell, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[50:37] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[50:38] I just know he's hauling Heston hay equipment.

Speaker 1:
[50:39] Yeah, he was in the beginning.

Speaker 2:
[50:40] Yeah. No wonder he went broke.

Speaker 1:
[50:42] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[50:43] Working for farmers. They don't pay enough. Yeah, those semi stuffs are definitely cool. Now, I kind of expected that there would be an arm wrestling competition there.

Speaker 1:
[50:55] There should have been.

Speaker 2:
[50:55] But I've never seen videos on that. No. I kind of expected Charlie Trugger to turn his head around backwards, like a switch and an arm wrestle somebody.

Speaker 1:
[51:03] That's what we ought to do for next year. Get just some old junk. I don't care what's a Peterbilt day cab. Something red, you want to deck it out like that. Have the weights in the cab like he had.

Speaker 2:
[51:13] Pump a little iron.

Speaker 1:
[51:14] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[51:15] Yeah. Did he sit in the passenger seat in his off hours and use his left hand? I don't know. I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[51:21] And I was impressed. You know, that one scene there, they stopped and slept that night, but in a day cab, you know, with no sleeper on it.

Speaker 2:
[51:27] Yeah. Yeah. Couldn't even use his coat for a pillow because one sleep was gone.

Speaker 1:
[51:32] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[51:35] Military school. There's another thing you never hear anything about anymore.

Speaker 1:
[51:38] No, you don't.

Speaker 2:
[51:39] I assume they still have them. But back then, like, that was always the threat from your parents. I'll send your ass to military school. Okay. You know, several kids in movies, their parents had to go get them at military school, so on and so forth. You never hear about that now.

Speaker 1:
[51:53] I don't even know around here where you would have sent somebody.

Speaker 2:
[51:56] I have no idea.

Speaker 1:
[51:57] I suppose they're around here, but I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[51:59] We should start one.

Speaker 1:
[52:00] Yeah. Was boarding school and military school the same, or was boarding school different?

Speaker 2:
[52:05] Boarding school is just, I don't want to deal with my kids. I'm going to send them off and let somebody else raise them and educate them at this high end. But military school, I think, was training them for the military in addition to school.

Speaker 1:
[52:14] It was about like a ROTC a little bit.

Speaker 2:
[52:16] More or less, yeah, I think.

Speaker 1:
[52:18] But a boarding school, I guess, was it more college? I guess you could, like, you lived there.

Speaker 2:
[52:22] Yeah, I suppose.

Speaker 1:
[52:24] Which, to me, that had been like, hell yeah, let's send me there. Go live with all these kids.

Speaker 2:
[52:32] Probably wasn't as much fun as we're imagining it to be.

Speaker 1:
[52:35] No, nope. But nowadays, I assume that's what the rich kids would do. You know, that would be up the rally.

Speaker 2:
[52:42] Yeah, no doubt. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[52:45] Yep. Boy, I've seen old Tiger Woods, another DUI. I mean, can this dipshit not afford drivers or like?

Speaker 2:
[52:50] For the love of good gracious. Like I just told my wife two hours before I got here, I said, if I got that kind of money, Dale Arnhardt Jr. is driving my ass around.

Speaker 1:
[52:57] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[52:58] Like, you know, like, can we not hire a driver? Like, you can't tell me that guy can't afford... This was in the morning, wasn't it?

Speaker 1:
[53:05] Yeah, it was. Yeah, it damn sure wasn't of a night. Like, seeing all the clips on TV, it was broad daylight.

Speaker 2:
[53:12] I mean, I realize that this is not in, you know, small town, Midwestern USA. But I'm like, who's the asshole cop that's like, Oh, I'm going to tie up Tiger Woods. Like, don't you tell Tiger, Hey, bud, we're going to record, drag this shit out of here. You're going to make a sizable donation to our department. And this doesn't hit the newspaper.

Speaker 1:
[53:30] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[53:30] Like, and he's like, OK, here's $800,000 or $100,000, whatever it is. You know, which I realize isn't right. I'm not advocating that. I'm like, at some level, doesn't the guy feel a little bit bad or whatever? Like, I mean.

Speaker 1:
[53:43] Well, I didn't know till today. I just thought he, whatever.

Speaker 2:
[53:47] He rolled it, didn't he?

Speaker 1:
[53:48] Yeah, but he hit a trailer. There was a guy pulling a trailer that had slowed down to make a right-hand turn and look like into a private drive. Well, he come T-balling up behind him, and he went to swerve. I think he clipped part of the trailer, then rolled is what he did.

Speaker 2:
[53:59] So you're kind of hung up if there's somebody else involved.

Speaker 1:
[54:01] Which, once again, I'm sure that guy was just some blue collar. It's like, what's it going to take to make this go away? Call your buddies and flip this bitch back over.

Speaker 2:
[54:08] Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[54:09] What's 200 grand to Tiger Woods?

Speaker 2:
[54:11] How would you like to have a brand new trucking trailer and you shut up? Yeah. Of course, maybe Tiger wasn't silver enough to make those decisions.

Speaker 1:
[54:19] Well, did you see he called Donald Trump while he was waiting on the cops to get there? He really did. Yeah, so he was on the phone, which I guess it was actually Trump. That's who he said because when he hung up the phone, he's like, I was talking to the president and the cops are like, well, you have to come over here. But it sounds like they confirmed he had called Trump. Now, I don't know if he was actually talking to Trump or somebody else.

Speaker 2:
[54:37] But so, yeah, we're going to use your one phone call, which is that even a thing anymore? You never hear about that either. I hope I never experienced that either, but yeah.

Speaker 1:
[54:49] Which I've said all along, you know, when he got hurt in golf, I'm betting he's addicted to pain pills or something is probably the probably.

Speaker 2:
[54:58] I can't think of a more pansy ass way to get hurt than playing golf, but I mean, whatever.

Speaker 1:
[55:03] Yeah, because you could tell like in the footage there, like he wasn't hammered and slurred. Like, I mean, I think he was probably on some pills, means they found him in his pocket.

Speaker 2:
[55:14] Yeah, would stand to reason. Yeah. Yeah, I would think he could hire a driver, but maybe not.

Speaker 1:
[55:21] Yeah, I don't get it.

Speaker 2:
[55:23] Yeah, I don't either. I did see a great t-shirt, a great t-shirt. I'm not going to order it. But it was Tiger Woods with a golf club that was the Nike emblem swung around over his shoulder and it said, just DUI it.

Speaker 1:
[55:38] Oh, jeez. And I'm like, nice.

Speaker 2:
[55:41] Somebody's going to make their yearly wage off of that stupid shit. Yeah, somebody's coming out of winter. It's not Tiger, but somebody's coming out of winter.

Speaker 1:
[55:49] Well, did he get arrested with him and his old lady got into it a couple of years? Because was it her? She beat the shit out of his car with a golf club or something?

Speaker 2:
[55:57] I don't remember how the story went.

Speaker 1:
[55:58] Was that all at the same time, though? He got it. Did he get arrested on that deal, too? I don't remember.

Speaker 2:
[56:03] I don't know. I don't keep up with it enough anymore to know, Tony, but that sounds right.

Speaker 1:
[56:08] Yep. I mean, yeah, he's about one DUI away from having to have a driver. So you just all have to drive.

Speaker 2:
[56:15] Let's start ahead of it. Let's get the cart before the horse and, yeah, have somebody drive the cart. Yeah. Yeah, bad deal. Yeah, happens to a lot of people, but...

Speaker 1:
[56:29] I do feel bad for those guys for one aspect of everybody thinks they should be held to a higher standard.

Speaker 2:
[56:37] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[56:37] Just because he's an athlete. I'm not condoning drinking and driving or whatever he's on. Don't misunderstand me, but how many blue collar guys we know has had a DUI? I mean, you know, it...

Speaker 2:
[56:47] Doesn't make the news.

Speaker 1:
[56:48] Yeah, I mean...

Speaker 2:
[56:48] You know, because he's a celebrity and so on and so forth, but yeah, it's... It's something else. It is. He does not take good photos in those situations.

Speaker 1:
[56:59] No, never.

Speaker 2:
[57:00] Like, I don't know what he's on, but he definitely looks like he's on something.

Speaker 1:
[57:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[57:03] You know, in those. Looks sloshed of some fashion.

Speaker 1:
[57:07] Yeah. Now, cops, I do think cops should be held to a higher standard. If you're the guy who's writing the DUI, then.

Speaker 2:
[57:12] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[57:13] Yeah, I suppose you should.

Speaker 2:
[57:14] Yeah. Yeah. Why is it if you have a CDL, even if you're in your personal vehicle, it's what, .04?

Speaker 1:
[57:20] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[57:20] Well, shouldn't it be the same for cops?

Speaker 1:
[57:22] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[57:22] Shouldn't it be zero tolerance for them?

Speaker 1:
[57:23] To me, it should be.

Speaker 2:
[57:24] They can carry a gun any time. It should be lower. I want to bring that up in some legislation. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[57:31] Did you see in Illinois? Now, they're trying to pass a thing. Back here. I've got it on my phone right here. When the temperature is above. Did you see that today?

Speaker 2:
[57:39] Yeah, you can't work when it gets over 80.

Speaker 1:
[57:41] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[57:42] That's really going to narrow down the days you can work in Illinois. It's going to put it down to about six.

Speaker 1:
[57:46] Yeah. So House Bill 3762 to limit working indoors when temps exceed 80 degrees Fahrenheit, 85 heat index, and outdoors when temps exceed 80 degrees Fahrenheit and heat in down. That's kind of weird.

Speaker 2:
[58:02] Worded weird.

Speaker 1:
[58:03] But yeah, basically anything over 80 degrees sounds like you're going home.

Speaker 2:
[58:06] Yeah. That should be productive. Yeah, it should work out well.

Speaker 1:
[58:12] It just baffles me that through, whether it's through COVID, through shit like this, through whatever, they can't get enough tax money, but they try to stifle you working every chance they get. It's like, hey, numbnuts, I have to fucking work to pay the tax.

Speaker 2:
[58:24] Yeah. Yeah. See, we're good old Illinois trying to find some way to tax social media. The amount of time you spend on social media.

Speaker 1:
[58:32] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[58:32] That'll be delightful. Want to check Facebook Marketplace? We're going to need $5. Yeah. Makes perfect sense.

Speaker 1:
[58:43] Yep. I'm so sick of government.

Speaker 2:
[58:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[58:45] Everybody involved in it. You know, like right there with this idiot proposes this every guy from our side of the aisle should stand up and not be polite about it. So, you know what? You're a raging dumb fuck. That is a stupid as fucking legislation. That's exactly how they should say it. That I've ever heard in my fucking life. Sit the fuck down and shut up.

Speaker 2:
[59:02] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:03] Is exactly how you should address that. Instead, they want to ban her back and forth and be gentlemanlike.

Speaker 2:
[59:07] Take it to committee.

Speaker 1:
[59:08] Yeah. Fuck you. That's what you need to tell the guy. Fuck you. Sit down and shut up.

Speaker 2:
[59:11] If it's too hot for you, go home.

Speaker 1:
[59:12] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[59:12] Nobody's going to miss you. Yeah. Yeah. My thing is, if you don't work in those conditions, that's fine, then find something else.

Speaker 1:
[59:21] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[59:22] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:23] I mean, hell, if you want to be a dick at work and you'll say we're in some big office building, can I just turn the thermostat up to 80? Well, looks like we're going home today, boys.

Speaker 2:
[59:31] No doubt. I got to deal with the HVAC guy that takes care of this building. Well, he can't get it fixed till next week. Needs a part. I guess we're having the week off.

Speaker 1:
[59:39] And it's too hot that day, so he can't get up in the attic to fix it. So guess what?

Speaker 2:
[59:41] Yeah. It's always hot there.

Speaker 1:
[59:43] Yeah. Guess we're done till fall, boys.

Speaker 2:
[59:44] Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[59:47] I'm to the point where I just want to see him just pass all this shit. Just literally just pass it all and just watch the gridlock happen. It's just like a slow motion version of COVID. Just pass it all. Let's just see how dumb we can get.

Speaker 2:
[59:56] You know, I used to laugh when we were in school. Oh, it's too hot. We're going to let you out to 230. Ooh, thanks.

Speaker 1:
[60:02] Yeah, the heat of the day.

Speaker 2:
[60:03] Thanks. Thanks for that 30 minutes, you know, when the buses are still cooking. How about you tell the bus driver to go park them under a shade tree for a while? That would be a better deal. Now the school's air-conditioned, but we still got to let out for heat. That doesn't even make sense. It doesn't really matter how hot it is outside if the AC is working, and all those same kids are like, if the app is too hot, we're going to go to sports practice. We're going to go play baseball outside in the blazing sun now. Makes perfect sense. Apparently, it wasn't that hot.

Speaker 1:
[60:33] Once again, it all comes back to these government choices where there's just no logic applied to anything.

Speaker 2:
[60:37] None whatsoever. All it is is patting somebody's pocket somewhere. Climate change is the biggest farce of crock of bullshit that's ever been shoved in our throat.

Speaker 1:
[60:47] Yep. That it is.

Speaker 2:
[60:50] You knew when they had to rename it from how heat deal, whatever, global warming to climate change, that they're like, oh shit, our tits and a little bit of a wringer here. This isn't working out as well. We'll rename it. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[61:04] Okay. I remember when I was a kid in second grade, I probably told this story, but I'm going to tell it again. I remember that was when they talked about the greenhouse effect. And they always talked about like when you're a little kid, you know, that's why you shouldn't litter because the sun's rays come down, that hits that piece of garbage and it reflects it back up and this and that. And I remember sitting in second grade thinking, well, how does the sun know the difference between a piece of garbage and a house or a building or a car or whatever? Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[61:28] But it apparently doesn't reflect off solar panels.

Speaker 1:
[61:31] Yeah, apparently not.

Speaker 2:
[61:32] Doesn't reflect at all. That's not super heating spots in the atmosphere. And what happened to the hole in the ozone? Do we just heal that thing up? I'm like, we took away a little bit of aquanet and bang, the hole's fixed.

Speaker 1:
[61:41] Fixed itself.

Speaker 2:
[61:42] Maybe the hole's letting some shit out.

Speaker 1:
[61:44] Could have been.

Speaker 2:
[61:45] You know? When the space shuttle blows through that, does it leave a big hole? Does that heal immediately?

Speaker 1:
[61:50] Right.

Speaker 2:
[61:51] What are we doing there? All that heat going through it, you think would just blow that thing wide open?

Speaker 1:
[61:56] Well, you'd think. Yeah. Which to me, wouldn't we want a hole there? I mean, if we got global warming, wouldn't we want to let some heat out, like knock a hole in this thing?

Speaker 2:
[62:03] You would think.

Speaker 1:
[62:04] Let her vent a little bit.

Speaker 2:
[62:04] Did the smoke that we used to have in the air filter the sun out so it wasn't so bright? Right. I mean, was that better for us?

Speaker 1:
[62:11] I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[62:13] They don't know either. That's the thing.

Speaker 1:
[62:15] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[62:16] Well, for one, let's just get down to it. The dipshit is passing that stuff. Don't believe in God. So they got to come up with this bullshit science deal. I'm not saying some science isn't real, but some of that shit they just make up because they can't buy them a higher being taking care of this stuff, you know?

Speaker 1:
[62:32] One volcano disrupts every bit of emissions you've ever put on anything.

Speaker 2:
[62:36] Absolutely. Absolutely. How much emissions has been generated off putting that stupid Prop 65 warning on every product in the world from California?

Speaker 1:
[62:48] A lot.

Speaker 2:
[62:50] We're printing that on everything you can print it on every day. Like, it just makes no sense to me.

Speaker 1:
[62:57] I'm hoping the rest of the nation gets a taste of old JB Pritzker here because, boy, he's starting to slim down. He's went from 700 pounds to 675.

Speaker 2:
[63:04] Oh, Zempik? Yeah, he's doing it slow.

Speaker 1:
[63:05] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[63:06] He's doing it slow, so he didn't have all the loose skin. Yeah, he's thinning down because somebody told him, hey, fat guys can't be elected president. So he's he's trying to thin down.

Speaker 1:
[63:14] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[63:14] But then he's doubling down on stupid policies.

Speaker 1:
[63:16] That's just it. I don't I don't think the guy's electable.

Speaker 2:
[63:19] Well, gosh, I hope not. Yeah, I hope not, because he is not good for the country.

Speaker 1:
[63:27] That's what I'm wondering, you know, is the ultimate goal. I think Gavin Newsom president, JB vice president is the angle we're taking. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[63:35] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[63:37] Which he's a billionaire. So, I mean, he's got an endless supply of money.

Speaker 2:
[63:40] Yeah. Which if if you got the kind of man, what do you care? Like, why do you want the headache? You know, I don't really not doing it for the right reasons. Like, I also think Donald Trump and his heart of hearts wants to fix some of that shit, because even back you watch his interviews from when he was in his 40s and 50s, he's basically doing what he said he would do then if he were president then, even though he didn't want anything to do with politics, that finally got bad. And he's like, well, shit, I guess I got to get in this deal. But yeah, these other dipshits. Yeah, unreal. Yeah, now we're being taxed on paint in Illinois.

Speaker 1:
[64:12] Yep.

Speaker 2:
[64:13] That's nice. Yeah, can't pay anything because a little tax money on that. Maybe if they just quit running people off.

Speaker 1:
[64:20] That would be the logical choice.

Speaker 2:
[64:21] You wouldn't have to tax them as much.

Speaker 1:
[64:23] Illinois should be an economic powerhouse. And it's not.

Speaker 2:
[64:26] It's not. Nope. Nope. I figure after this Final Four, the U of Iowa probably moved to a different state with the Bears.

Speaker 1:
[64:35] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[64:36] We'll probably lose them too.

Speaker 1:
[64:37] Did I see today that Kansas City Chiefs went back and they're going to stay in the same Arrowhead Stadium?

Speaker 2:
[64:44] Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[64:45] No, I'm not saying it was true. I didn't research it. It could have been one of them.

Speaker 2:
[64:48] It might have been April Fool's Deal.

Speaker 1:
[64:50] Well, that could have been too, yeah, because I think it was yesterday when I didn't think about that.

Speaker 2:
[64:55] Yeah, you can hardly look at the news on April 1st.

Speaker 1:
[64:58] That is true.

Speaker 2:
[65:01] And I've never been to Arrowhead, but I'm told it's a pretty slick setup. It's laid out well. It's easy to get in and out of, so on and so forth, but I don't know. There again, I think some of that comes down to what makes it easier for the rich donors and to hell with the other 65,000 people that want to go to a game.

Speaker 1:
[65:18] Well, we've talked in the past, you dig deep enough, JB. Pritzker probably owns the ground in Indiana that the new stadium is going. You know what I mean? It ain't going to affect him personally, none.

Speaker 2:
[65:25] Absolutely. Or he's trying to buy all that shit at Arlington before they pass something to put it there. Like, guarantee there's an angle there for him or some of his buddies.

Speaker 1:
[65:33] Or he's wanting where Soldier Field is now for something. There's an angle somewhere, I will promise.

Speaker 2:
[65:38] All you got to do is follow the money. Yep. Yeah, it always seems to come down to that.

Speaker 1:
[65:45] But that just appalls me, though, where greed gets you. You know, if you're JB. Pritchard, and you're already a billionaire, okay, so now you're doing some shady land deal, and I'm not saying he is or isn't, but that's probably what's going on. Like, how much is enough? So the billion that you got ain't enough, so now you need 1.2 billion? I mean...

Speaker 2:
[66:03] Find a hobby.

Speaker 1:
[66:04] Yeah, I mean, what do we do?

Speaker 2:
[66:04] I got that kind of money.

Speaker 1:
[66:06] Politics is the last place I'm going to be.

Speaker 2:
[66:08] Yeah, I'm going to prop up some friends so that we can hang out and screw off all day long. Yeah. Clearly, he's not into athletic stuff, but maybe he should take up golf. Maybe he should drive Tiger Woods around, those two could play golf together, and the world would be a better place all the way around.

Speaker 1:
[66:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[66:26] Yeah. I just don't understand why those guys want... It's a power thing, I suppose, at some level.

Speaker 1:
[66:32] Yeah, well, it's got to be. I mean, especially when you're literally spending millions of dollars to get a job that pays $175,000, you know, if you're just a congressman or whatever, you know.

Speaker 2:
[66:41] And we've talked about this before, but, you know, get these guys in Congress that are in there till they literally die. It's like, wouldn't you like to enjoy a couple years of something rather than somebody have to wheel you in drooling so you can vote yes or no on something? You don't even know what it is. But, you know, the powers of he told you to vote, whatever. So you do like...

Speaker 1:
[67:02] Look at Mitch McConnell, the guy can't even carry on a conversation anymore. No.

Speaker 2:
[67:06] Why would you want to be out in the public that way? Enjoy your golden years and go home.

Speaker 1:
[67:12] I mean, at that point, you've got enough money in life to... Whatever you want to take your grandkids and go do... Anywhere in the world, you could go do it.

Speaker 2:
[67:19] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[67:19] But you're too busy fucking around with this stuff.

Speaker 2:
[67:21] Yeah, you're too busy screwing over the working man. Yeah. And the working man's always too busy to fight back.

Speaker 1:
[67:29] Yep. And then the other half are... For the other side, you know what I mean? They're stuck in the left versus right, so it's never going to change. That's why I've swore it off, and just don't pay no attention to it, and life's actually a lot better.

Speaker 2:
[67:43] No, I get that. I get that. I try not to watch too much of it anymore.

Speaker 1:
[67:49] The only snippets I get are through TikTok, if it comes across my feed, and even a lot of that I don't watch, and then I always watch the local news to know what's going on around you, and they always cover little shit here and there. But other than that, I don't watch Fox News, and I'm watching that show.

Speaker 2:
[68:02] I try not to watch the news anymore. It's nothing. My parents would always be revved up about something on the news, and I'm like, just don't watch it.

Speaker 1:
[68:08] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[68:09] You know? My mom, to this day, we revved up about the weather. I'm like, that's for the whole viewing area.

Speaker 1:
[68:13] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[68:14] It's 300 miles from here. Like, calm down. Exactly. You know, it's not.

Speaker 1:
[68:17] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[68:18] If you want to know what the weather is going to be in your local spot, look at your phone for a second. You know, agreed. Whatever. Yeah, I just don't get too caught up anymore. I can't change any of it anyway.

Speaker 1:
[68:29] No, no. Nope. It wouldn't matter if you did somebody to unchange it six months later.

Speaker 2:
[68:35] So I got enough shit to be pissed off about without finding new and creative ways to get mad.

Speaker 1:
[68:39] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[68:40] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[68:42] Yeah, I don't I don't think there's any good farm machinery coming out, is there? I mean, deer release their dumb shit down in San Antonio, but I don't buy any wild tillage tools or any. I think everybody's just status quo. I just keep in your cards.

Speaker 2:
[68:57] And we've talked about this before, but like we're kind of over the big major jumps.

Speaker 1:
[69:01] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[69:01] Like stuff so advanced now, you know, from your 8200 to a new one now, there's some creature comforts, some technology, a little more horsepower, but like the lion's share of it's basically the same. And that goes across all manufacturers. Like that stuff peaked a while back, and now we're just throwing shit on there for the sake of throwing it on there. I haven't seen anything too revolutionary, you know. There's always some wood you can buy for a planter. You know, that's probably the thing that...

Speaker 1:
[69:32] Talk about a billion-dollar industry. God damn.

Speaker 2:
[69:37] All those attachments cost a fortune. They ain't worth nothing if you go to buy a used planter. Like, oh, this one's got them, that one doesn't. It's $3,000 higher. It's $40,000 worth of shit, but it doesn't really amount to too much on the backside, necessarily.

Speaker 1:
[69:52] Yep. Yeah, did you see that thing I shared on Facebook the other day? And it was one study. It wasn't, don't take this as gospel, but Prairie Farmer had done a study in how, basically, automatic down pressure, they didn't see any benefits in springs, like on this planter sitting here, versus the new pneumatic shed or hydraulic or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[70:13] You know, we've tried about everything on that. I'm not saying that we personally have tried. I'm saying as an industry. And there, if you had nothing, okay, maybe, but what always cracks me up on some of that is, these guys buy something that's pretty new or brand new, and then they take off the new shit to put that shit on. I'm like, you're going to trade it in a year or two anyway. There's no way that pays for itself.

Speaker 1:
[70:35] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[70:36] You know?

Speaker 1:
[70:37] I've said it a hundred times. I've seen it all over social media. You've got these soil temperature deals on their plant.

Speaker 2:
[70:44] I've never seen anybody stop planning because they're too cold.

Speaker 1:
[70:46] Exactly. Well, look at this. They were planning today. The soil temps are 42 degrees. Well, apparently that option meant nothing.

Speaker 2:
[70:51] Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I don't know, you know. You mentioned the tillage thing, and there's all kinds of, you know, the cool trend now is high-speed discs. How fast can we disc? We're going to pretend it's not a disc, but it's really a disc. But we don't want to tell people that. But if we throw high-speed in front of it, now it's cool. To look at those tools, there's not that much there. I realize they weigh a lot and still cost money. But to look at them, you're like, well, how does this cost that much? And that didn't, you know. But if I can go fast and get it done quick, if I can screw it up fast, that's all I care about, you know. If it looks good on top and I can go fast doing it, how the hell with it, I'm going to roll with it, you know. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[71:31] Yeah, they've turned everything into a giant fucking drag race is all it is now.

Speaker 2:
[71:34] And then as soon as shit gets tight and things go back the other way, somebody drags out of old field cultivator and they go back and forth and they plant their crop and it's just fine, just like it's always been, you know. I like vertical tillage as much as anybody, but that's a that's a fast and loose term. We didn't we didn't put any restrictions on to what's vertical and what's not.

Speaker 1:
[71:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[71:54] So basically anything with a blade is now vertical. Okay. Even though we're angling them, curving them, this, that and the other to throw it laterally, but it's still vertical because we say it's vertical, you know. I don't know. I just told a buddy of mine today, I'm like, if I was a full-time farmer, I'd build my own tillage equipment. It's like people get it close, but they never take it all the way, it doesn't seem like. And even a fuel-collaborator thing, like in my opinion, your spacing has to be less than your shank or your sweep. So if you got seven-inch sweeps, you need six-inch spacing. But companies just can't pull that off. Some do, but then they put them too close, it won't flow any trash. The next guy spreads his toolbar way out, but his spacing is not tight enough, so it leaves unworked dirt in between them. Like, we can never quite get their eye, although I think Landall now maybe has one that they've covered all the bases on. Yeah, I think they took the Sunflower Deal and went from 10-inch sweeps to seven, I think, or nines at the worst case, at least, and it's long front to back, so it flows some trash, but it covers the whole profile. Actually, as a harrow on the back, or hurray for you, pair heads, and with a rolling basket, which I'm still mesmerized. The areas of the world, I just talked to a buddy of mine this morning, he's like, man, I can't think of a single guy around here who's got a rolling basket. And I'm like, you wouldn't farm right here with that one.

Speaker 1:
[73:24] I don't have one. I would never go back to rolling baskets. Really? Yep. Two years in a row now, I've been running rolling baskets side by side with my five bar, you can't tell how nickel's worth a difference.

Speaker 2:
[73:33] We've always had baskets. I guess when we bought that sunflower, it doesn't have a basket on it. And then I blame some of the way it worked on not having one. I bought one specifically without it, just so that it would level really good. It's got a monster hair on the back. Turns out, apparently, all the springs were out on the shanks, which seems to be a common deal because everyone I went and looked at in the last year was the same way, so we've all put springs on them now. But, I don't know, that was always more of a northern thing. They didn't ever have bathhouses or ground work better down here. Of course, it wasn't all that many years ago down here. You couldn't farm. If you had a white planter, you had to add a cultivator.

Speaker 1:
[74:10] Oh, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[74:10] That was just to give it all the white guys had had cultivators, which never made sense to me why I would want to pack the ground down that tight and turn into bug dust, whatever.

Speaker 1:
[74:20] But yeah, because that they do.

Speaker 2:
[74:22] Yes. Yeah, they're great for certain things.

Speaker 1:
[74:26] Sure.

Speaker 2:
[74:26] If you're going to seed something down like grass seed in an area, you shoved out some brush or something, and you run a construction just through there, and then got all the limbs out of it, and so on and so forth, and now you've got giant clods and you need to beat them down, that's the tool for that. That will do that nice. But you don't see anybody run one, really.

Speaker 1:
[74:47] No. I couldn't tell you last time I seen.

Speaker 2:
[74:49] But it wasn't. When we were kids, everybody had one.

Speaker 1:
[74:50] Oh, yeah. Big ones were 25 footers.

Speaker 2:
[74:52] Everybody but me knew.

Speaker 1:
[74:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[74:54] Everybody else had one, but I don't know. It's hard to make something that fits every soil type and every condition, so on and so forth. But now everything's got a full length way, so it's narrow to go down the road. What difference does it make your four-wheel drive on front of it's 21 foot wide?

Speaker 1:
[75:11] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[75:11] Who gives a shit if the tool's that wide going down the road? Like, I mean, you're not.

Speaker 1:
[75:15] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[75:16] You still got to get the tractor off the road for it. I don't know. It's funny how all that shit comes around and goes away, and then comes back in some other form with a different name and whatnot.

Speaker 1:
[75:33] Yeah, it's all about speed nowadays.

Speaker 2:
[75:36] And like I said, our window is narrow anymore, it seems like.

Speaker 1:
[75:39] It is. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[75:41] I mean, I see the, and I'll be honest with you, I couldn't go back to slow speed tillage. I just.

Speaker 1:
[75:44] Yeah. I've never went to high speed, so I guess I don't know the difference.

Speaker 2:
[75:48] Well, you know, once you've ran 8, 9, 10, 12 mile an hour in a field, it's really hard to go back to going 4 or 5.

Speaker 1:
[75:53] I can see that, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[75:54] Even if it's wide and you're getting a lot done, like it's tough to go back that way. But yeah, at the end of the day, you're getting it done. It's fine. So.

Speaker 1:
[76:04] And I still go back to that's why I say most farmers don't want to drive their tractors. That's all you hear about. Oh, I've looked at it on was you. I want to drive the tractor. Well, no, you don't because you want to get in the fucking seat and plant 3000 acres in 45 minutes. So you clearly don't want to set the tractor.

Speaker 2:
[76:17] Yeah, I've had that discussion before, too. It's like, you know. Harvest is, you know, an awesome job, a fun job. That's when you're finally reaping what you sow, literally. That's like, well, shit, we need a bigger head. We need a bigger combine. We got to go faster, get more done. Bang, harvest is over. Shit, we got done too fast, you know. Now I'm on to the next project. Yeah. It's hard to take time to enjoy some of that.

Speaker 1:
[76:45] My question is, where do all of these used vertical tillage tools go? Because if you see a used one on a lot, it's junk. Like, I've never seen one sent anywhere that somebody traded, and like, oh, yeah, this one's pretty nice. Like, no, the blades were out, half the bearings are gone. I mean, you're talking 40 grand to re-blade it, I don't know what it is. I mean, it's expensive.

Speaker 2:
[77:02] It can be expensive, yeah. Yeah. And some of that shit really hasn't changed much. Some of your major players really haven't changed that much to it, so you can either re-build or you can trade for another one. But like, so they're not giving you much for the wore out one.

Speaker 1:
[77:16] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[77:17] And honestly, there isn't a ton of used ones on the market. Guys generally don't get rid of that many of them. Like I said, if they do, they're completely trashed, you know, or something else is wrong, you know, so on and so forth. Yeah. I don't know. And the other thing is, some of that shit's got so big and takes so much power that there's no second market for it anyway. You know, if I drop off a 40 foot high speed disc to you today, you can't run it tomorrow. What are you going to do with it? You know, start taking blades off of it so it's narrower, I guess, maybe. I mean, it's your only option.

Speaker 1:
[77:53] Yeah. In fact, I don't have enough horse to run even a small vertical. I mean, hell, I'd be down to, what, an 18 footer? I mean, to run it right. I mean, if you're going to run it 18 to 24.

Speaker 2:
[78:01] Yeah, depending on the brand, depending on the conditions, depending on what you're doing. You know, we don't have a lot of hills here, which would be to your benefit there. But yeah, and the problem with that shit is, so let's say a guy like you wants one. Okay, cool. So I want a 24 footer, let's just say. Well, shit, now they're so high, nobody's buying a new 24 footer. So consequently, there's no used 24 footers. You know, it's hard to, for the smaller guy that wants one, well, shit, he can't even get one because all the ones that were sold new in the last five years were 40 foot or bigger.

Speaker 1:
[78:33] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[78:34] You know, look at big field culvators, you can usually buy a 40 foot cheaper than you can buy a 28. You know?

Speaker 1:
[78:40] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[78:41] Because the guys that can justify a 40 or can pull a 40 don't want to use one. They don't want to wore out a piece of shit.

Speaker 1:
[78:46] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[78:46] You know?

Speaker 1:
[78:49] Yep. Yeah, it makes you wonder where all the machinery goes between the combines, the tractors, the tillage, the planters. I mean, you'd think that shit would be sitting everywhere.

Speaker 2:
[78:57] You would think. It would be very interesting to know the total production numbers on all that shit. You know, especially regionally or whatever, because there's certain pockets of the world that seem like, you know, those guys down south always tell you the same thing. Dang, we ain't got no money. We can't afford any of that new shit. We can't afford to put it under sheds. And we got to buy six different harvesting equipment because we could plant all these crops. Meanwhile, three quarters of the magnums that ever got sold were south of here, apparently. Because for a while, everybody was dragging them back up here, repainting them, trying to pawn them off as something else. Well, somebody bought those new down there for something.

Speaker 1:
[79:33] Right.

Speaker 2:
[79:33] You know, 8,000 series is the same way. They sold a bajillion of those things down there somewhere to somebody.

Speaker 1:
[79:38] They did.

Speaker 2:
[79:39] You know? Yeah, I would love to know the numbers regionally versus what's left now versus what's been relocated.

Speaker 1:
[79:48] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[79:49] Because now, with the Internet world, like machinery moves so far.

Speaker 1:
[79:52] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[79:52] Which is how your weeds eat and all that shit gets spread. You know, back when our parents were our age, nobody bought a combine out of Arkansas or whatever, you know? Like hay equipment, whatever, you pick your poison. Well, now it comes up here, a plan or whatever it is, like where it got dropped off at about a tri-county area is about as far as it was going for the whole life of the product, you know? But now the shit, you know, gets sold in Southern Missouri, goes to North Dakota, comes back to Central Illinois, goes down to Arkansas, comes back to Minnesota.

Speaker 1:
[80:24] I still go back to when Mike Burkhardt had his sale there in 2021 or whatever. You know, just a regular grain cart, I don't know, a thousand bushels of J&M, whatever it was, went to the state of Washington. It's like, you couldn't find a fucking grain cart between North Dakota and Washington. I mean, you went all the way to fucking Southern Indiana to get a grain cart.

Speaker 2:
[80:41] Meanwhile, we got a dealer that is two hours closer to Washington than Mike is, that's probably got, at that time, probably had 20 of them. Yeah. You know, like, so I know there's 20 of them closer. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[80:52] I just...

Speaker 2:
[80:53] Yeah, that always does. Auction stuff amazes me in general, because, you know, in my opinion, there's two different mindsets on that. You got your group of farmers that, by God, they're gonna buy it on an auction, because if a farmer had it, it's gotta be good shape. And I'm of the opposite opinion.

Speaker 1:
[81:09] Same.

Speaker 2:
[81:09] If a farmer's had it, meh, I'd rather buy it from a dealer. Like, if something goes to shit, because I'm driving at home, the dealer's gonna do a little something for me. I buy it on an auction. That's my baby.

Speaker 1:
[81:20] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[81:21] Nothing against auction stuff, so on, so forth. But I'm like, and certain auctions have a, are known as a dumping ground. Certain ones aren't. So there's that caveat in there, too. But it's like, just because Joe Blow was using it doesn't mean it was right. It just means he was a farmer and he was pushing through one way or the other, you know.

Speaker 1:
[81:40] Especially if he knew he's going to retire or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[81:42] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:
[81:43] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[81:43] I was like, if I'm retiring in three years, well, yeah, sure. It slips in six. I'll just run seventh.

Speaker 1:
[81:47] Yeah. And if he was going broke, he damn sure wouldn't fix it.

Speaker 2:
[81:50] Exactly. Like, well, I can't believe this had that problem.

Speaker 1:
[81:53] Really?

Speaker 2:
[81:53] Because I thought maybe it would, but hey, whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[81:59] Yeah. I would much rather buy off of dealers unless it's an individual that I personally know that I know took good care of it, then it's like...

Speaker 2:
[82:07] I mean, I buy a fair amount of stuff all different ways. I never find auctions to be all that great value-wise, even if it was what it's supposed to be. Like, it seemed like that's a premium deal because people get caught up in auction fever, right? Like, myself included. You're bidding on something on eBay or on a live auction, and it's like, well, you know, whatever it is, $2,000 is my top dollar. I decide, you know, two weeks before the sale, I'm bidding, I'm bidding. Oh, shit, it's $2,100. Well, shit, what's $100? I don't want to lose, you know? If this guy thinks it's worth $2,100, hell, it's got to be. I'll bid it to $22,000. Well, shit, now it's up to $25,000, $2,500. God, that's fairly close. Boy, I would add to hell with that. Yeah, I don't want to lose, you know?

Speaker 1:
[82:49] When you get pissed, fuck this guy. Let's see how high you'll go.

Speaker 2:
[82:51] Yeah, exactly. Now I'm just running his ass up, you know? Yeah. Meanwhile, the guys at the auction house are the ones running both of you up, probably.

Speaker 1:
[82:58] Agreed.

Speaker 2:
[82:58] When you get down to it, but...

Speaker 1:
[83:00] I've never got a deal on an auction. I'm not saying I got screwed, but I just either gave what it was worth or a hair or more. I've never got a deal.

Speaker 2:
[83:07] Yeah. And the other thing, and this, I don't know how often this happens, but, you know, dad used to go to a fair amount of those auctions and, and get stuff once in a while. It's like, okay, you go out to get your semi, so you can load it up. In the meantime, some asshole stole off everything he could.

Speaker 1:
[83:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[83:25] And it doesn't happen at the dealer, right? But you come back, it's missing the dipstick for the rear end, somebody stole the fill cap off of it, they robbed the third link off of it, and they grabbed two suitcase weights. It's like, yeah, I was gone for four minutes, like a bunch of pirates, you know, which that shit doesn't happen at the dealer usually, you know? Yeah. We had a little bit of that a few different times. I always hated when dad went to an auction because he would never take the semi. And then he'd call me, hey, bring the truck up here. You were going there to buy some white and shoes, drive the damn thing to begin with.

Speaker 1:
[83:58] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[83:59] I had better shit to do. But if he took the semi, he never bought anything. I won't tell you he bought it when he was going to have to have a truck and trailer later.

Speaker 1:
[84:06] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[84:07] Whatever. Yeah. That's what it is.

Speaker 1:
[84:10] I went to an auction with your dad and we bought a pulling tractor on accident.

Speaker 2:
[84:13] Yeah. No doubt. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[84:14] Then we talked to guy and hollered at home for it. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[84:16] That is right. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[84:19] That's been a long time ago.

Speaker 2:
[84:20] That has been a long time ago. I mean, color, my mom's super impressed on that one. Did you buy anything? Yeah. We got another pulling tractor. Say what? No, we're not going to keep it. Yeah. You're damn right we're not keeping it. Yeah. And then everybody said, well, I'm not giving you that for it. I know what you paid for it. No, you don't because they didn't buy it because it no-sale on the auction.

Speaker 1:
[84:41] Oh, that is right. Yeah. We talked to the guy in the parking lot. He loaded it up.

Speaker 2:
[84:44] Yes. He was taking it home. And him and dad struck a deal. And everybody said, well, I only brought whatever it was on the auction. That's all you gave for it. I'm not giving you this. Dad's like, I didn't buy it on the auction. He was taking it home.

Speaker 1:
[84:54] I forgot about that. He bid it and they no-sale it. And that guy, we parked five vehicles in front of him just along the road. And he loaded up and he caught your dad on the way by.

Speaker 2:
[85:02] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[85:02] He said, my wife's going to kill me if I bring this thing back home. And I don't remember now what they worked out. But he said, oh, you got it loaded up. He said, just bring her on down. So, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[85:13] Well, that's been a hot minute ago.

Speaker 1:
[85:15] Oh, yeah, that's been at least 20 years ago.

Speaker 2:
[85:17] Yeah, for sure. It was a nice ride. I know the guy that bought it.

Speaker 1:
[85:21] That was a 1066, wasn't it?

Speaker 2:
[85:22] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if he still has a pull-in tractor. I don't know if any of that is a part of it, or when he switched classes, if he built a whole new one. I'll have to ask him. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[85:35] I was thinking that guy, too, was the same guy that had the pull-in tractor. He was wanting to come down anyway because there was something to do on some tires. Your dad had one tire of something, like one that got ruined, and that guy had one, and they were wanting to do a deal. They didn't care who bought the tires, but it's like, we've each got one. One of us needs to buy one from the other.

Speaker 2:
[85:55] That does sound right.

Speaker 1:
[85:56] I too sure didn't load a tire up when he unloaded the tractor.

Speaker 2:
[85:58] That does sound vaguely familiar.

Speaker 1:
[86:01] But yeah, you're right. It did no sale, and your dad didn't even go to seek him out. We were just walking the truck, and he just happened to be there loading it up. And he said, yeah, my wife's going to kill me.

Speaker 2:
[86:11] Yeah, yeah, no, I remember that.

Speaker 1:
[86:15] Cold that day. I remember it was colder than hell.

Speaker 2:
[86:16] Yeah. It was over in the Comas, wasn't it? Was, yep.

Speaker 1:
[86:19] It was an almond. It was an antique tractor auction.

Speaker 2:
[86:24] Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:
[86:27] Because I think that morning, your dad and I went and picked up the 806 boom tractor you got down south, and then we came back and went to that auction.

Speaker 2:
[86:35] That might be.

Speaker 1:
[86:35] We went to the Case H dealer down there and picked it up.

Speaker 2:
[86:39] Which we weren't planning on making that the boom tractor. We had a gas 806 on the boom at the time. He'd bought that diesel, and we had another 806 gas that he got somewhere, and there was a vegetable farmer or a pumpkin guy from Northern Illinois, and he wanted gases because he had all special help, I guess we'll call them. And he didn't want them around diesels. And he's like, well, I'd really like to have another one. You got another 806 gas. He's like, well, I got the one on this boom here, I guess. He's like, you know, he's like, well, I'll take it too. So we swapped the boom over to the diesel. That one had a, we were overhauling it at the time. There was something wrong with it. Had a scorched piston or something. Because we had the diesel partially tore down at the time. And so we overhauled it.

Speaker 1:
[87:27] Is that the same one you still got?

Speaker 2:
[87:28] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[87:28] Is it?

Speaker 2:
[87:29] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[87:30] Yeah, cause we joked it had that big satellite dish. I don't know what it was, but remember that great big-

Speaker 2:
[87:34] It's still on there.

Speaker 1:
[87:35] Is it? Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2:
[87:36] Still on there. I have no idea what it was.

Speaker 1:
[87:38] It looked like a big stainless steel bowl of some kind.

Speaker 2:
[87:39] Yeah, it looked like a mixing bowl. Yeah. Yeah, it's still on there.

Speaker 1:
[87:42] Well, if they've taken shit apart, was throwing bolts in that or something?

Speaker 2:
[87:45] I don't know. We throw hitch pins in it. And ether cans, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[87:48] Yeah. But yeah, we went there that day and got that that morning, early that morning, that was down at Flora at the Case IH dealership.

Speaker 2:
[87:56] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[87:57] I picked that up and then went up to that. Because I remember, I think we was in that blue Volvo Semi you had, and then was air shift.

Speaker 2:
[88:05] Yeah, that one was air shift, which was a nightmare.

Speaker 1:
[88:07] And it was cold and it was frozen high.

Speaker 2:
[88:09] When it got too cold, it would default to high, which was super handy.

Speaker 1:
[88:12] Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[88:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[88:13] I think by the time we got to Effingham, it was getting thawed out enough, then you could go through all the...

Speaker 2:
[88:17] Yeah, that was awesome. I liked that truck other than that. It had an air clutch and an air shift. And when it got cold, you were screwed. The one year at Louisville was supposed to get super cold. We had to start the night before and let it run all night hoping like hell that we could at least get to the interstate. Thankfully, if you go out the one way, it's not very far to the interstate. But by the time we got to the interstate, all that was high range. Yeah, but it didn't matter because I was rolling. But same thing happened to me on the way to Fort Wayne that time. We pulled in for fuel. It was working. We pulled in for fuel because I only had one tank on it. We were going to let it run all weekend because it was badass cold at Fort Wayne at that pull that year. Pulled off, it's like, oh shit, all we got is high. Thankfully, it was on a slope, and I got rolling. Got into the Coliseum there, whatever, and parked it, and we let it run all weekend, and we had low range when we went to leave. But yeah, that was the main reason for getting rid of that thing. That was a terrible idea. That had that stupid air tag. Just buy a real twin screw and be done, which is what we finally did. But that's one of the few times when we bought that truck, like we hadn't had that thing. I don't know if we had it a week. We first got that. We cleaned it up because it was pretty dirty inside. We cleaned the shit out of it and we took it to Bowling Green. Like that weekend, we got it striped out there. Transport Graphics used to come around. They always had a booth at Bowling Green. We got it striped to the whole nine yards out there, but like we didn't have any trouble with it. But like that wasn't really our MO to leave off and something that quickly that we hadn't really been through. But yeah, the worst part about that truck is it was somebody had burnt the ECM on it and we couldn't change it. It was road speed limited. Like 63 was wide open.

Speaker 1:
[89:51] No kidding.

Speaker 2:
[89:52] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[89:53] Huh.

Speaker 2:
[89:54] So we bought a different ECM for it that would run 70, but it didn't have any power.

Speaker 1:
[90:00] Really?

Speaker 2:
[90:01] And so we finally bought all the shit to hook to it, but you had to have an old computer. And I'm talking MS DOS shit basically. So there was a computer guy in town and he had an old ass computer and we were able to hook to it, but that one was burnt. So you couldn't change the horsepower on the fast one, and you couldn't change the speed on the one that had horsepower, so we were screwed, but we could communicate with them. I don't know where all that shit is still even at, but literally dad come carrying this computer in from 1982. And it would talk to it, but yeah, back to the stupid world of electronics. And that was in 94, so that was pretty early on in electronics.

Speaker 1:
[90:37] Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's weird. You like this 8200 here, knock on wood. Now it probably happened to me. You never heard about ECM and shit on all that stuff. Now this newer stuff, it seemed like you hear about it all the time.

Speaker 2:
[90:49] Those might have been made in America. Well, you know, could have been. Yeah, all this newer shit, those computer boxes are all pretty sketch. I got up. I got one the other day was remand. No, it didn't work. It was freshly remand from the company. No, that's bad.

Speaker 1:
[91:05] No kid.

Speaker 2:
[91:05] Couldn't program it.

Speaker 1:
[91:06] Did a Boxcar Magnum have ECM?

Speaker 2:
[91:09] No, it had a kind of half-assed deal. Well, a 71 didn't, I don't think. 72 might have had something for the hitch, for the three-point. Wasn't really an ECM, but yeah. No, you had to get in the MX stuff where you got any of that, with the controllers and whatnot. It's tough to beat linkage when it comes to dependability.

Speaker 1:
[91:29] Boy, to me it is.

Speaker 2:
[91:30] But all that sound travels through that. You cannot make a cab uber quiet with cables and leavers, and all that shit comes right through.

Speaker 1:
[91:37] Yep, it does. It does.

Speaker 2:
[91:38] But I've often wondered on some of that shit, like, did anybody look around very long? Like, I love 50 Series International. It's probably the best looking tractor IH ever had, in my opinion. A 5488 front wheel assist is just gorgeous. But there's what, seven or nine pivot points on the hydraulic lever to the valve.

Speaker 1:
[91:55] No kidding.

Speaker 2:
[91:57] We couldn't find a way to put less... So you get 10 thou here, 20 thou there, next thing you know, you're moving the lever three foot at the top and nothing's happening. Like, we couldn't find a way to... And we never put bushings in any of that shit. There had to be a better way on some of that. I always bitched to dad. I'm like, you know, we got an old 504. And the lever is basically straight to the valve. It just works. It has pioneer couplers on it that, in my opinion, look factory. All that works great. You buy a 1066, some dipshit says, hey, let's put all the hydraulic shit under the seat, and let's put a bunch of pivot points in there with no bushings. And just because we're out, nobody's ever going to fix it. We're going to sell all the parts, but nobody's ever going to buy them. They're just going to bitch about the fact that the lever moves a whole bunch, and they're never going to do anything about it. Like, I always want to come out with a retrofit kit that put all that shit to the right of the seat where it should have been directly connected. And then you could put a real seat on the damn thing because you can't buy an aftermarket seat for one of those that's worth the shit. It's going to have a big thing knob in the front. You're going to kick it getting on. It's going to set in the wrong spot. Like, the factory seat is the only seat to fix it, but nobody else makes one with that shorter suspension. It just pisses you off every time. I love those tractors, but it's like, I mean, once I've rebuilt a few of them here recently, well, you can make it all work really good.

Speaker 1:
[93:13] Yeah, just like the shift and people bitch about them shifting.

Speaker 2:
[93:15] If all that shit's right, they shift great. The problem is, we're out in 82, and people have just been using it for the last 20, 30, 40 years.

Speaker 1:
[93:24] And next thing you know, they're cramming it and bending the rods and, you know, got it all messed up.

Speaker 2:
[93:28] I had one the other day, this was actually not on a 66, this was on an off-brand tractor. I was like, yeah, I don't know what's wrong with it. You broke the half-inch shift lever in half. You physically broke the lever in half. I'm holding up, this is what's wrong with it. This is not connected to the shift fork anymore. You've broke it clear off. That's what's wrong. Huh, well, you know, we really don't have that many hours. You could probably do this the first day if you got rammy enough with it. You know what I mean? The Challenger Space Shuttle didn't have that many hours on it.

Speaker 1:
[93:56] Right.

Speaker 2:
[93:57] You know?

Speaker 1:
[93:57] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[93:58] But you can tear shit up fast if you're hard on stuff.

Speaker 1:
[94:01] Yeah, you can. I don't know. I just, I get tired of fighting that shit. To me, it's like, let's just fix it.

Speaker 2:
[94:08] Let's just fix it. And that shit stuff on those isn't super expensive. I mean, it's higher now than it obviously was before. Takes a little bit of time, but if you're just tedious about it, and get it all working nice, those things shift like a dream when they're tight and right.

Speaker 1:
[94:25] And for no more than those tractors get used nowadays for most guys. I'm not talking a livestock guy. It'll last us till we're dead.

Speaker 2:
[94:30] But even a livestock guy isn't using it like they would have used one of those when they were introduced, you know? So you can get by with all that shit if you just fix it up. But nobody ever seems to want to do that, you know?

Speaker 1:
[94:42] Yeah, I don't know. I just get tired of fighting that shit. It's easier just to fix it and be done with it.

Speaker 2:
[94:50] I just can't put up with it anymore. I just make, if I'm in a tractor, I just make a list on the notepad, hey, this little nuance, that little nuance, all that shit needs fixed at my earliest possible convenience, you know? So you get it in the shop. Okay, I'm going to knock a couple of these off the list. I'm going to fix this, this and this. I can get by without a fuel gauge in the four-wheel drive, just fill it up every day. I can't burn enough fuel through it to be empty by the end of the day. I can probably go two days. When I get a chance, I'm going to fix the fuel gauge, you know, whatever the case is, you know? Otherwise, you end up with, well, shit, there's 150 things wrong with this tractor. None of them are necessarily big, but well, shit, what are we going to trade it now? What are we going to do, you know? It's like if you just try to stay on top of it, you know? My old Ford truck's the same way. Like I've got a list of stuff. I've got to pull it in here this summer and knock a few things off the list to get fixed back up. Otherwise, they start to stack up. And the other problem with that is, like I can get by with a ton of that shit, because that was always my dad saying, my God, I can get by with another 30 years for that. Like that's true. But I can't have Henry over to help me one day and be like, oh, by the way, if you idle this tractor down below 1500 RPMs, you lose steering and brakes. The left brake sticks, the throttle doesn't work. You can't have 150 things on this damn thing.

Speaker 1:
[96:05] Nobody can drive it.

Speaker 2:
[96:06] Because if you're not used to it, you don't know all this shit. So you got to have some of that shit working on the off-chains. You got to have somebody help you do something. Next thing you know, you call me, hey, Nick, can I borrow your tractor? It's already hooked up to the disk. I'm like, yeah, sure. Next thing you know, you back to my machine shed because, oh, I forgot to tell you, it's stuck in reverse. You're going to get a pry bar and flick that out first. Now you put it low and there's a hole in my shit. To no fault of your own, I forgot to tell you. It's like some of that shit you just got, but there's enough bad shit happens. Normally, you got to fix some of that shit as you go.

Speaker 1:
[96:41] Yeah, that's a fact. I don't know. Well, we've been around the world on this one, I guess.

Speaker 2:
[96:46] Yeah, we have. Made a full circle again.

Speaker 1:
[96:49] We have, just like always.

Speaker 2:
[96:51] Yeah. Thanks for tuning in.

Speaker 1:
[96:56] Yeah, I guess we'll probably talk to you after planting time. Hopefully, let's just drag out for a month.

Speaker 2:
[97:01] Yeah, I mean, who knows? Gosh, I hope it doesn't. I do not want to be planting anywhere near the end of May or June. No.

Speaker 1:
[97:09] Nope, I just hope this last deal wasn't our first window.

Speaker 2:
[97:11] But yeah, I hope that's not the case.

Speaker 1:
[97:15] Yep. Well, as Nick said, thanks for tuning in. We'll see you guys next time.