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[00:01] Wave. Artemis 2 went to the moon. If you were to go to space, what would your aircraft be called? Uh, Wisdomis Prime. What up y'all, this is Big Bro with Kid Cudi, a Wave original presented by Jimmy John. I'm your Big Bro Scott, coming to you live from the attic of my mind, baby. This week, we have my homeboy, Wiz Khalifa, legendary weed smoker, legendary artist. This conversation is one of my favorites. Talked about behind the scenes on some of his biggest hits, me and Snoop Dogg, our favorite stoner movies. It's like the quintessential stoner episode. So roll up, kick back and vibe out with us. Happy holidays, y'all. See you on the other side. Where's my joint? Where's my joint? Where's my joint? We got my guy, Wiz. How you feeling, bro? I'm chilling, bro. Thanks for having me over. Thanks for coming to the attic, man. Yeah, it's cool over here. Yes, it's a nice cozy spot. I like the Big Bro vibes. Yeah. Very on brand. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, this is the stoner edition. It's the 420 episode. Yeah. You know what I mean? I had to have you on. Hell yeah. We are the new generation stoners. Yeah. You know? Connoisseurs of this thing. And we're probably like two of the most wholesome people in hip hop. For sure. It's true. We're unproblematic. Damn. As a. I mean, we're real niggas, but we're still unproblematic. Nobody hates us. No. We're haters, I'm sure. But they don't matter. No, no, no. They hate us. I mean, those types of haters is like because of like our glow. Exactly. Of our aura. Yeah. There's nobody who really wants anything bad to happen to us. They hate us because they hate us. You know what I mean? That's what they do, bro. I don't know how many people have checked it out. I'm pretty sure a lot of people have heard about it, but me and Wiz did a stream called Someone Cooked Tears, my series that I do on Twitch. We just cooked and it's funny because that was literally like the first time we were in the studio together, like working on something. Let's tell them a little bit about how that came about. Yeah. You've been streaming for a minute. I just saw you celebrated your 100th episode. Yeah, I started streaming a little while ago. I mean, just to get the numbers under my belt and actually learn how to do it. But I really kind of dove into it similar to how you did where you were just trying to find your way and what would work for you. And I think just naturally streaming developed over time as to something that the format kind of changed and the entry to it kind of changed and all of that shit. So I found my way that made it work for me. And I just started just really like learning like nerding out on the technology part of it. Like just really learning the, you know, the ins and outs of like how to run OBS and like set up the cameras and all of that shit. So I was like my own guinea pig, you know what I mean? And in turn, of course, the people that I fuck with, I'm gonna support like, you know what I mean? So if I see anybody on there who I genuinely fuck with in real life, I think Twitch is a great opportunity to show that and add to the community as well. Yeah, it's definitely like, you know, I love when I was able to come on your stream and gift you subs and see the reaction of the chat. Everybody was so excited, you know what I mean? It's real gratifying. You gifted me some subs too, and people were like really fucking pumped. Hell yeah. I know I was pumped. It feels good to like just hit that button and then show some love. It's super dope. So I seen that you had started streaming and just naturally as a fan and somebody who would want to see behind the scenes of what you got going on, I'm just checking it out like everybody else is too. But then, because we are who we are and we have our platforms, if I say something in the chat or if I, like you said, give subs, it becomes a moment. It becomes a thing. So like that genuine interaction turned into us being in the studio for the first time on your stream, which is really, really fun. Super professionally ran. Vibes are crazy. Chef D was there cooking it up. Chef D, Saucy D was in the house. Saucy D, yeah. So it's like those real situations where I wouldn't be able to do that in real life, Twitch gave me an opportunity to kind of break the ice and break walls down and just have a direct connection with you and made something happen that the fans have been wanting to see, we've been wanting to make happen. And it was like, we even sent songs back and forth to each other, but after we recorded on live and together in the studio, it's like, man, we should have been got together. Yeah. But it happened because of Twitch, you know? Yeah. And that shit is dope. Like I fuck with that heavy. Hell yeah. I mean, it's kind of interesting because like a lot of people don't, they're like very protective and private of what goes on in the studio. Yeah. You know, and I feel like I was that way for years. Like I never had, like it actually bums me out, that I don't have much footage of me in the studio back in the day. You know what I mean? And like now I'm trying to record everything, you know, because who knows what that session will end up being. Yep. Absolutely. So it's nice to now, at any given moment, I can go back and just like watch a full set, like watch me cook. I don't think I've ever watched myself cook before. Like seeing how my mind works like in overdrive like quickly, how I can make choices and do things quickly. Like that was, I was impressing myself. Like watching it. That's good. So I was like, I know like for fans, this has got to be the illest thing, because, you know, we're two people that people respect, you know, like people honor us and to lift the veil on that and just kind of bring them in on the vibes and especially it being our first time and like seeing it for the four hours we were streaming. I mean, we were nonstop in there chilling, you know what I mean? Seeing the camaraderie. It's not like, like I think what people saw with that stream was like, oh man, like Cudi and Wiz like really with each other. Like, this is not like just like an industry link up. Like these dudes are cool. They've been cool for years and they just now happen to be making music. You know what I'm saying? So. And like you said, like the artistry, the professionalism, a lot of these cats are in their house, like doing this shit. They don't really got no example of like what to look at and how to do it. So we're showing them, you know what I'm saying? We're showing them like, all right, cool. When it comes to this point in the session, you make this decision, you pivot here. You go, you do this. Like you're showing them how to, you know, build and stack and be confident and, you know, work through those things where it's like, we might've, I don't know, I can tell kind of how you are. I'm the same way as like we study the greats and we like really study the greats to where if we listen to music and we figure out why it makes us feel a certain way and then we repeat that but in our own way. Yeah. And that's a special skill too. For sure. To be able to be inspired but like not be a duplication but take inspiration and concoct something to make your own. Yeah, it's a feeling. So the feeling is not going anywhere. Yeah, exactly. Like, you know, if you're going to want to cry or whatever it is or you know, you just know how to make people feel like that. Didn't you say you shed tears? Yeah, hell yeah. More like a mother fighter, dog. Your part too. It wasn't even my part. It was your singing part. I was like, damn. Well, that's, I think that it's a beautiful thing because we discovered something. Yeah. Like we have a certain je ne sais quoi. Yeah. You know, we, we, we have something special and everything. I truly believe in everything happens when it's supposed to happen. For sure. You know what I mean? For sure. It's like now we're both masters at our craft. Like me, I'm more of a producer than I was back then. Like if we were linked up in like 2010, 2011 or 12, like it wouldn't have been the same vibes. I would have been like, yo man, I gotta get beats from someone or whatever. But now I'm just like at this place where I'm so inspired and I want to just cook that like I could just have you come to the studio and be like, let's make something from scratch. Yep. And like I get my guitarist, I got my engineer Ian, I got Aaron on the guitar. It's me. I got all my synths. I got my computer. I got my laptop. I got everything I need, my MP. And we just make something that didn't exist before. That gave me a whole new insight because I'm still getting beats. But I was like- Isn't that the most stressful thing though? It is. It's real constricting. Yeah, it's the most stressful part about being an artist is when is like, yo, I'm going to send you a pack. It would be like 50 beats. And then you only maybe find like one that's all right. And it's just all right. And you have to do that like maybe 10 more times with 10 different producers. Yeah. And it's just like, man. And then also, too, like when you when you fuck with so many different producers, it's kind of hard for you to like. Create a sound, depending on the type of producer you get it. If you're working with producers that can actually help you kind of create something unique, then that's OK. Right. You know. But usually it's like if you're reaching out to the same. The same guys that are wanted by everybody in the industry, you're not getting something that is your own unique sound. You're just doing their sound. Exactly. You know, and you end up sounding like everybody else. Yeah. You know, that's what I realized. Like, I had been doing it like that for so long. So I was programmed to just be like, you know, send me packs and I'll run through packs. Like I'm like, all right, cool. That's like a skill of mine. You know, you send me like seven of them bitches. I'm knocking them bitches out because it's like, you never know what you can get. Or like you said, if you send 50, I'm listening all 50, but I might pick three because I'm really, you know, being detailed about what I want to do. But instead of doing that, you showed me, you could work on one or two, but we did too. But even if we would have just done one, it would have been like, it would have still been meaningful because we captured everything that we were doing right then and there, we captured everything and how we felt. Yeah. And you don't get that when you get a Pac-Send. Nah. And it might be a really good beat, but that magic is not there. And that's what I feel better with now and more appreciate and just moving forward is like, yeah, I would much rather like that be the story that's being told rather than like, you know, just Pacs, you know what I'm saying? There's nothing wrong with Pacs. I don't want to, you know, say. Yeah, we're not shitting on producers now. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't think that Wiz and Cudi are shitting on producers. But what you're saying is that you've grown the confidence to say that you are a producer yourself. Exactly. A lot of the times, we'll just tell people what we like. Like, hey, you know, put this here. And hope for the best. Yeah. Or we already arranged the song and shit like that. So it's just taking a little bit more control and saying that you're doing what you depend on other people to do, which they shouldn't be pissed off at. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I can't just be accepting beats from fools forever. But you know what I will do? I will, if somebody has beats for me, I'll say, you know what, I'll get in the studio with you and cook up with you. Yeah, cook with you. Like, let's make a beat together. That's exciting for me. That seems like fun. You know who I want to get in the studio? Like I was in the studio last year with Hitboy and we was just making beats. You know what I'm saying? I got a couple of beats from him that are just bangers. I did a song on one of them. It's dope. It's like I got two of my boys from my heyday. I ain't even gonna say who, but you're gonna hear this record soon. But that was exciting for me because the only producer I'm ever really in the studio with is Dr. Genius. You know what I'm saying? So it was dope to like kind of like get out there and try something different. Yeah, that seems like more fun. It's like a like a new age jam session type shit. Yeah, it's super, it's super dope, man. And the possibilities are endless. You know, and then Hitboy has his style and I have my style. We were for hours just chopping samples. Yep. Just sitting there, just chopping up samples. Yep. Like I'm like, oh, it'd be dope if you just chopped up the beginning and use this piece and put it there. And he's like, I bet. What if I do this? And we're going back and forth trying different things. And shout out to Hitboy because Hitboy has been a real supporter of mine and a real homie for years and watching him thrive, watching him succeed in doing all these amazing projects with all these amazing artists, it's just beautiful, man. It is. He's a good dude. Yeah. I feel like we got to get something from Hitboy. We got to really, for the EP that we're going to do, you're right, Weed Induced Coma. I want to get into a little bit of your process when you're making songs. We know the weed has to be present. Yeah. You know what I mean? Are you one of those people that has like 20 heads in the studio or is it just usually you and the engineer? It's usually just me and my engineer. His name is Aaron. Shout out to Aaron. Shout out to Aaron, y'all. I did have a rock star era. Definitely, I did too. We all did, because you want to bring your homies. You want your homies to see this shit. My homies, some strippers, some dogs, some tattoo artists. Nice, nice. Bro, I had some crazy sessions, but it kind of like trained me to be able to record in the chaos. Yeah. It's like now I know how to be real peaceful in the chaos, like record around anything. And it conditioned me for that, but I definitely figured out that I'm way better with just me and my engineer. Yeah. Yeah. Some ideas and just a clear space to get all of that shit done. Yeah, man. I feel you, man. I had this similar experience when I was running with the good music crew early on in my career. The studio sessions would be filled with niggas, and I would just come in, and my anxiety would be through the roof, and I would just do my part and get the fuck out of Dodge. But I could focus on, I remember one song, I went to the studio, it was like 50 people in there, it was crazy. And I did Christian Dior, Divenflow. And I remember really just focusing up, because I was like, look, I have the last verse, I wanna make sure that this is really amazing. But it had all these other dope artists on it. I at first was a little taken by all the energy in the room, but as soon as I got into it, I was just like, focus on it, and finish the verse in 15, 20 minutes. And then that's how it kinda was, and so I feel you about having to be used to the chaos because every session from that point on in the good music world, whenever I was running with them, there was always heads in the studio, always heads in the background. We had to tell to stop talking, full on conversations going on behind me, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, for sure. It's like that shit, especially how the industry was during that time, it was like a fucking performance being in the studio. You had to pull up, your car had to be right, your fit had to be right. Yeah, yeah. When you got in the booth, you had to kill that shit. Yeah, man. Because not only does niggas already just looking at you, but somebody gonna hype you up before you got in there. So they got expectations. And then it's like six girls over there who you don't know at all. And it's like, all right, cool. So I got these niggas that I gotta impress. And then I got these chicks that I don't know. And then I got my big homie right here, whoever he may be, who I really fuck with, who I gotta impress. And it's like a goddamn show. But it's like, you rise to the occasion and it's like, that's kind of like what built our character. Cause we had to go through a lot more of that and then, you know, pull it back to where we're at. It's not in reverse. It's not us being by ourselves and then getting thrown into that. So it's definitely more of a skill than anything. But it's not necessary. Don't you find that the way we do it now is a much more peaceful thing? It's way more peaceful. It's so peaceful. I love to just, and you probably have the same relationship that I have with my engineer Ian. I've been working with him since 2012. And, you know, it's like he's the one. I'm like asking like, what you think of this verse? Yeah. You know what I mean? Or what do you think about putting this here and changing this there? You fuck with that. And like, I just love that. I just love it's just me and my engineer. We're just cooking something cool. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm making beats and he's tracking it. And, you know, the beautiful thing I have with my engineers is. Now we're scoring like movies, you know what I mean? And like, that's been a lot of fun because he kind of. Helped me load up my laptop with sounds and all these different things that I could use for scoring. And it just enhanced my whole shit. It's almost like the camaraderie or how we build things. Like I wouldn't be able to happen if I had a room full of people. Right. I mean, it's really it's the type of music I'm making now is more peaceful. You know what I mean? It's more like introspective reflection, you know? Yeah, yep. And it's nice to just kind of be in a room in a quiet dim lit room. You know what I'm saying? With my weed and like, Yep. Just vibes. That's why I felt cool about you inviting me to your space, because I know how important my space is to me. I don't just invite a lot of people over. I'm real hesitant to do that. Like, just because like you said, I like my peace and I like where my brain is at. And I know like how I get when other people are around. So it's like, I might as well just chill. Like I'll keep it, keep it like this. Yeah, I'm fucking with that too for sure. Man, let's talk about the beginning. Yeah, we came up at the same time, Demi. Do you remember when we performed at that club together? It was some club and we didn't talk. But this must have been like my first of like club appearances ever. I mean, it was a club that just happened to have a stage. And you were smoking, you had a lot of people around you. And I had my booth and I had like just a few friends. But like, I think early on in my career, I was really shy. I think a lot of people took my energy early on for the first half of my career as somebody who just didn't want to be bothered with people, but it was really my shyness. I was like insecure to like put myself out there, not knowing what I'm going to get on the receiving end. You know what I mean? And so I feel like that was for a while, I didn't link up with a lot of different people for a long, long time. Yeah. You know? That's why it was important for, I remember when we did that, I did that performance, and he was like, yo man, why we ain't ever work together? We ain't enemies, you ain't fuck no bitches that I know. Like, you know, we have no beef, like nothing. Why we even work together? And I was like, man, I don't fucking know, man. But in my head, I did know, it was like, man, I was a fucking like shy dude. I mean, I had all the, you know, you see me on the stage, you see me doing these videos, and you see me doing all the, all the things that Mr. Rager period of my life. And it looks like I have the most confidence. And I did when it came to my art, but when it came to like socializing, you know, I was very reserved, you know. For us, I was always a fan of everybody. Like, I'm the biggest dude who's not no hater ever. I never hated on nobody. I never would. I always find the good shit to say about. And I think just because like my attitude comes off so cocky that people think like, I don't need like comradery or need friendship. You know what I mean? Like, he's good, bro. He's got it fucking made. But I take that too. And I'm like, I go make friends. Like my friendship with currency, I hit him up on the internet and was like, dude, I like your music. I think we should link. And then he was like, okay, cool. And he was thinking, cause I was signing the Warner Brothers at that time. He was thinking that, you know, I was like a huge artist and that I would want to stay at a hotel and shit. I'm like, bro, I'm gonna sleep at the crib and we're gonna buy weed. Use the money that you were gonna get for the hotel for weed. And that's how we became friends is just me going down on my own and chilling. But I was always just not a hater, always a huge fan, and just wanted to build like worlds with people. I seen this shit as like we're always better as like, you know, teammates as than we are like against each other. So niggas who I know had motion, I was like, I need to link with these. Like, you know what I mean? They was never like, I need to do better than them. I need to shit on them. I need to get to their level. I was like, no, I need to link with these niggas. Like, they're doing it big. That's how I want to do it. Or that's how I'm doing it. So we need to do it like that together. And you was always somebody who I looked at that, like that, like Big Bro, you know what I mean? That's why I like how you doing this now. I always looked at your videos. I looked at your documentaries, just everything. You know what I mean? Just as a fan. And then when we started, I started, you know, to get to a certain level where we were, I would consider as peers, it's always just been a respect level. Yeah. It's never been like, yo, I'm gonna fucking smash this dude. Like, you know what I mean? It's just always been a respect level where it's like, you know, you have recognition for the weed shit and being a stoner and just the whole, your message for your fans. And I have the weed shit, but I have a different type of message, but it's all based around the same type of shit. Where it's like your music and your crowd is more, they thinking more and they really want to be talked to about thought. And my crowd thinks, but they're also crazy as fuck and they just want to party. You know what I mean? They just want to get loose. And that's all good too. That's all good. And that's where you see me in my section with all them people at. Cause it's like, yo, I was getting it cracking. I was in my early twenties and it was like, I was treating that shit like college, cause I was going to different colleges. So I was just treating it like I was in college. The music and the clothes and, you know, just that whole scene at that time, it was all just real accessible. Like you could just touch it. You're like, you just wake up and get to it. It almost doesn't feel like it was real. Bro, it was like a dream. Yeah, and I'm just not waking up and I'm like, well, I'm 42? Bruh, it was like, what the happened when I was 26? It was like our late teens. It was like our late teens. It was like, it was so crazy, man. Twenty-teen, bro. I mean, we were young. All right, shit was awesome. And then when we moved out to LA, bro, like we were just instantly all like buying mansions and Porsches like we skipped the bum phase, bro. Yeah, we skipped it. I mean, that was a beautiful- We never bummed it, yeah. That was a beautiful thing, us being young, successful, and just out here living our lives and making just what we thought was cool. We were going crazy, though. We were in all the best sessions. We were around all the best. We were the tast- Well, we still are, but it's like we were the tastemakers of the time. Yeah. We said what was cool and what wasn't. Yeah. And that actually really caught on and spawned, you know, other stuff as well. So it worked as well as, you know, we had a great time and it was like, you know, it was just, that shit was cool as hell, bro. Yeah. Man, shout out Jimmy John's for coming through with the 420 Munchies. No ses is complete without something savory and sweet. So get toasted with the Jimmy John's Dream Rotation Meal, available April 20th through 26th. They've got toasted favorites like the Chicken Bacon Ranch, Roast Beef and Cheddar, Ultimate Italian, or the Ham and Three Cheese Milk, with your choice of Jimmy Chips and the new Cereal and Milk Crispy Treat. For my Dream Rotation, I'm going with Chicken Bacon Ranch, Barbecue Chips, the Cereal and Milk Crispy Treat, The Last Dragon on DVD, and Pink Floyd on vinyl. Today only, The Highest Holiday, use code DREAMROTATION to get a buy one get one Dream Rotation. Order online at jimmyjohns.com or on the Jimmy John's app. Happy 420 y'all, back to the vibes, yeah! Tell me about like the first time you met Snoop. Oh man. Like that shit must have been the illest bro. Because I've had some moments with Snoop and they are like definitely like top five, one of the top five favorite moments in my life. Yeah. Like being around this guy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Whether it's him handing me a blunt every five seconds, and like steaming in the room. We were in the studio with Pharrell one time years ago. Like just, I mean, we did, man, this is years ago, bro. We did the remake of We Are the World. You know what I mean? From the 80s, right? Yeah, yeah. And they had, it was so many people in there, man. But it was such a random mix. It was such a random mix of celebrities. It was like Vince Vaughn, then you had like Jamie Foxx, you had like Snoop, then you had Lil Wayne and like, it was like the most dysfunctional choir ever. And like in the back, you had Snoop and Lil Wayne and they were just in the back like giggling, like talking shit, like fucking around, like they're like the bad kids in class in the back, you know? And it was so crazy because, I remember I did Snoop's TV show, he had this late night talk show called Dog After Dark. And that was like my first time on TV actually. And like he had wanted me to perform day and night and he was so cool, got me a bunch of weed and like really like embraced me, was like, nah, I fuck with you. And that for me was like, that was a bigger moment than like Kanye being like, yo, I fuck with you. The man with Snoop was honoring me. I was like, man, I don't know, I don't really care who I meet after this. You know what I'm saying? Cause like it's the perfect example of being like, man, you know how you see a celebrity and you'd be like, man, this look like the coolest. And you meet them and they're exactly what you thought. For sure. That's like Snoop. Yep. You know? So tell me what your first experience was. Yeah, so I'ma just be like, I used to watch like The Wash. You ever seen The Wash? Classic, classic. I used to watch that. And then there was like a couple of movies of them on tour. What about Baby Boy? Baby Boy for sure. There was like that. Fuck your four, you ain't my son. Hey, hey, you sound real hard on the phone, nephew. He called a nephew, man. But yeah, I used to watch hell of Snoop footage and be like, man, I'm going to be that nigga's best friend one day. And it sounds weird, you know what I'm saying? But like, I would be at the house. I wouldn't say it to nobody. And I would watch shit and I'd be like, man, this nigga needs a fucking friend just like me, dog. Probably got a bunch of homies. I'm sure he do. But when I meet Snoop, I'm going to be that nigga's best friend. And then, I had just, it was like one of those blurry moments where I was, you know, I was really hot at the time and I was just traveling, doing a bunch of shit and I was meeting a lot of celebrities. I had met Juicy J for the first time. Nice. Who's, you know, a huge idol of mine. So it was like. Shout out to Juicy J. Yeah. He's a supporter. He's always been supporting me. I love Juicy, love his music. And we were, man, on our EP, Weed Induced Coma, we gotta have Juicy. Got you. He would love to, bro. He make beats. Yeah, right. So I would love to hear some of his beats. Yeah, bro, he would. So Juicy, you're here now. I'm probably going to hit you after this episode. Done. You already gonna know. Done. Perfect. He would love that. Yeah. And then so I got out to the West Coast and I finally met Snoop and shit. And it was just exactly what I was thinking in my head. Like, he was like, yo, we need to shoot a movie. We need to get in the studio every day. We need to do this. You need to get an apartment out here. You need to move around the corner from me. And I did all of that shit, yo. I was like, fuck it. I'm moving to LA, Snoop said, come out here. I'm doing it. I'm getting the crib around the corner from his crib. We in the studio every day. We making the movie and we did all of that shit. And in that process of like him putting me on and working with me, he really showed me like, what somebody at the top of their game is supposed to look like. So he was never like fucked up to me or like to people around him. He was always nice. He always looked out. He was stern. He had certain rules and shit like that. And he wasn't gonna hold your hand. And there was like situations where we would be about to move like I learned from him, he say church on the move. So when he say church on the move, that means he's out. And if you ain't, when he says church on the move, if you're not right behind him, glued to him, you're getting left. So it's like shit like that, where it's like I learned how to move out here and I learned how to move as a professional. And I learned how to move as somebody who's going to be at the top of their game one day. And he definitely raised me to be to where I am now. But I got to look at that early and just see him as a great person, see him as a good business person, see him as a good family person, see him as somebody who puts other people on around him, see how he interacts with other artists, other producers, other people who do whatever it is. Snoop has his hand in so much. And just being close to him and meeting him, it really showed me what a top tier artist is supposed to be like. Yeah. I mean, he's the perfect mentor, the perfect OG to have. Yeah, absolutely. Couldn't wish for nothing better, bro. Great example of a really amazing black man to look up to. For sure. For sure. You know, it's important for, I think, the OGs to connect with the youth and the youth to connect with the OGs. You know what I mean? And that's one of the things that I'm really big into now. It's like I'm trying to connect with younger artists and just give them game. And that's one of the reasons I guess I started the Twitch stream. You know what I mean? Because I know there's going to be some young producer watching that shit in Wisconsin. That's like, you need to see some codes. You know? I want to ask you, what artists inspired young Wiz? What were you listening to? Besides Snoop, we know Snoop was in the room. I'm going to keep it real. Who else? Cam. Cam'ron? Yeah, bro. That's my favorite rapper. That was my too. Yeah, that's my favorite rapper ever, bro. But I like the Confessions of Fire, Cam. Yeah, Confessions is tough. SDE is tough. Yeah, I remember playing that shit crazy when it first dropped. Cam, to me, is just his attitude. He didn't give a. He didn't give a fuck. And he, for sure, he let it be known. He let his who he is as a person be a character as well. Yeah. Cam is crazy. Yeah, but you know what's even crazier now? Seeing this with his own podcast. And him having intellectual conversations about shit. And him being smart as fuck about certain topics, sports, and things like that. And it's really now, his podcast is really a fucking source of information that people check for. It really is, it's reputable. Yeah, it's just so cool to see OGs that we grew up listening to branch out into new lanes and have success. It's inspirational to see niggas not be watched, yo. I know, and also he's doing it with his nigga, like him and Max go back. And their connection and their chemistry and the way they laugh together is hella good. You can tell that they came up together, they've been on these. Bro, it's so good. I genuinely just laugh watching them niggas crack jokes with each other. Cause I got family from New York, my family's from Harlem as well. So it's like, just seeing how them niggas act, they never grew up for real. Like they're still the same way. That shit is so cool to see. And like you got that from their music, you got that from their swag, you got that from the people that was around them too, like the whole Dipset movement. But just even, you know, people who were affiliated with Dipset, who weren't right by Cam, they brought so much energy to the movement too because they loved him so much, they just wanted to show off so much so Cam would see him. And like, that was just like, that's inspirational for me. Like there's not too many rappers where when I see them, I'm like, yo, that's my nigga, yo. Like anytime Cam is on screen, I'm like, yo, that's my nigga. Same, same, but he's a pop culture icon. Man, for sure. You know what I'm saying? Like people don't, these kids don't know. They don't get that no more. They don't know. I mean, I feel like they feel- They don't remember the pink Range Rover, the laffy taffy Range Rover. Everything that's done now is like recreated. Yeah, man. So if like a nigga got pink on now, pink fur or whatever, it's because somebody else did it. He was the first one doing that shit, bro. Yeah. The first one, for sure. Was your dream always to be a rapper? It was to be a ninja first. I think that was everybody's dream. I remember I watched The Last Dragon, I watched Dragon Ragnar, and I thought for sure I was going to learn karate and be doing kung fu in the streets. Yeah, I wanted to be a ninja. That was my first dream. Then I had hoop dreams when AM1 was cracking. Okay. Yeah, we was crossing niggas up in the streets. With like hot sauce and shit. Yeah, exactly. But then probably like 14, that's when I started taking rap series. Okay. How old were you when you started making music series? I think I started freestyling and shit with my friends around 11, 12. Then I recorded my first, I like actually heard my voice recorded when I was 14, 15. Yeah. Then I was like, whoa, I hear my voice back was like, it me up. Yeah. Because I had started writing in like third grade, but I, and then like I said, like you said, freestyling with the homies. Yeah. 11, 12. But like, yeah, for fun. Yeah. But no, no recordings until like 14. Yeah. But you know, then at 16, I had the idea to have a career. Yeah. Hot Boys just came out, Lil Wayne was 17, was out here killing it in the group. I really connected to him. Yep. And I was like, man, this dude is traveling all over the world, like performing, like he my age, like I want to do that. Yep. You know, like I want to do that and get money and take care of my family. Yep. You know? So that's like 16 was when I really was trying to like pursue a career, like doing like open mics and like town shows and shit like that around Cleveland. Nice. And yeah, like it was, you know, cause that's why like with my daughter, I always be asking her like, so what you want to do? Cause you had to figure it out at that point in your life. Cause she's 16 now. When I was 16, I knew what time it was. Hell yeah. I knew where we were going, you know? But I know every kid, you know, has to take, some kids take their time. Some people figure it out later. Yeah. And so now with her, it's like, she's exploring every avenue, you know, to eventually see where she wants to go. And, you know, she's got two more years of high school. Yeah. You know, she's got time to figure it out. I was thinking about that, like, what fucking was driving me that whole time? Like, what was my passion? And I think it was just because of, like, how much I love music. And like what you were saying about how, like, Lil Wayne was killing it and that inspired you to do it. Beyond just, like, recording myself and hearing myself, for the first time, like, I played it for my friends and they were like, man, you're good, bro. Yeah. Like, they were like, you could do this, yo. And I'm like, you nice. I'm like, damn, I'm like, for real? And then, like, for every age, I'll always have, like, a couple friends who would, like, faithfully buy my CDs off of me. Like, it didn't matter who else did, like, they will always cop my shit. Yeah. So I'm like, all right, I got customers. I got Custies, you know what I'm saying? They're coming back. You know what I mean? I got a supplier. I'm working with something here. Yeah, yeah. So, like, yeah, like you said, about, like, 16 and shit, I'm digesting so much music. And then for me, it was like, Dipset at the time. So, like, Juelz was the young out of the crew for them. So it was like, I was on my Juelz Santana shit, like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm just young, I'm hungry, I'm here, I'm supporting whoever the big dogs are, because I know it's not really my time. And I'm running around Pittsburgh, and it's a scene there, but it's not really a scene. Yeah, it's kind of like Cleveland. Yeah, not everybody's seeing that shit. We had our own little DVD series going on and everything. I had a nigga, his name was Franchise. He was from Reading, PA, but he used to do these franchise DVDs where niggas was battling, so it was like fake smack type shit. It was going down, yo. It sounded like it was popular. Yeah, yeah, it was cool. I feel like I heard about them shits. Yeah, we had a little thing going, just because we were all so inspired and so hungry. You know, that's what was spending their money on. But I was still in high school, so I would leave school on a work release to go to the studio. Oh, wow. Yeah, so that's how I knew that that's what I really wanted to do. Because I was getting paper signed from, shout out to E Dan. I was getting paper signed from E, like the studio was my real job. So they would allow me to leave high school in the middle of the day to go to the studio to work. That's where I learned how to write songs and structure shit and put it together where it became not just me freestyling because- Like, actually making a fucking song. Yeah, yeah, making a song because they could tell that they were like, this dude is good. Like, he can rap his ass off. And I was really good in the studio where I could, you know, write a rap and then just say it, like one or two takes. Yeah, but that shit would be like 38 bars. Yeah, it'd be long as hell. Oh yeah, fuck yeah. And it was over instrumental too. So it wasn't over that 10 original. No one would just say bars. But they were just looking at me like, well, the grown men, like they suck when they come in here. It takes them all day to put that shit together, but this dude, he can actually say his rap all the way through. So they're like, we want to work with them. And that's kind of like what gave me my shot, beyond paying for studio time, but just being able to work with people who are better than me based off of my skills and shit. And that's how I built that shit up. Yeah, man. I want to ask you, since this is the 420 episode. Hell yeah. Let's talk about the 312. Let me take a bong rip. Yeah, maybe we should take a bong rip. You asked me the question, I'm going to take a bong rip. And then I'll take a bong rip before I ask you a question. Well, ask the question because I don't want you to forget it. Oh, shit. Okay, you know me so well. Okay, what is the best stoner movie? Have Bake, How High or Harold and Kumar? Okay, which Harold and Kumar? Damn, that's right. Guantanamo Bay? Let's just say Guantanamo Bay. All right, let me number these. I'm going to put Harold and Kumar as number one. Really? Yeah. Okay. I'm going to put Have Bake as number two, and I'm going to put How High as number three. I love How High. Okay. So that just goes to say how much Harold and Kumar is funny as fuck. But you know what? I would have put number one is Have Bake. I love Have Bake, but I think Harold and Kumar has better scenes though. Like the, like, like there's more, if you like put the scenes up against each other, like. But bro, like Have Bake has some crazy ass scenes too, bro. Have Bake has better characters. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, to me, I think. Harold and Kumar had NPH though. NPH, it just like, they're just out of pocket with the scenes, bro. It was wild. When they broke out of jail, like that shit was crazy. When they went and seen Dude at the mansion, that shit was crazy. When they drove through the black neighborhood. Oh, shit. You remember that, boy? Wait, hold on. I don't even know if I've seen this one. You gotta see the one with Escape. There's two Harold and Kumar movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think I've seen the second one before. The first one was when they were trying to get to the White Castle. The second one is Escape from Guantanamo Bay. We gotta watch that, bro. Yo, please. Escape from Guantanamo Bay is out of fucking pocket, bro. Look, you put me on the movie, I'll put you on the movie. Have you ever seen Tim and Eric's billion-dollar movie? No. Hell no. Yeah, Half-Baked is classic, though. What's your favorite scene on Half-Baked? Oh, shit. Oh, man. I'll just start firing off scenes, because I don't have like an ultimate favorite. Mine is when Sampson calls Mr. Nice Guy with his ass. I want to talk to Sampson. Sampson will rule like that bitch out of Sampson, because it's hard being back in hip hop. Sometimes you want to throw it all down and get lifted. That Sampson said, did you get my message? I'm Cuban B. Yes. Yes, Cuban B. Yes, Cuban B. I don't think he was supposed to say that. That was all in brawl. Bro, that shit was funny as fuck, bro. Damn. That's okay. Oh, fuck. I realized that Bones are like- Wait, now the interview is about to change drastically. Yep. Bones are like taking shots with Weed though. Okay. Yep. I like Bones. Oh my God. It just speeds the process up. It's like, I'm not going to sit here and smoke five joints. I'm going to take a bong rip and get to it. Yeah. What was your first time smoking weed? My first time smoking weed, I actually watched Next Friday and ate some barbecue Pringles in the purple can. I ate them bitches and they tasted like steak, bro. Oh my God. Yeah. It was so good. And I actually had like a trippy experience because I have like closed my eyes and I was talking to my homeboys and then I opened my eyes and I was like, why did y'all let me go to sleep? And they were like, you never went to sleep. And I was like, yes, I did. I had a dream that we was talking about this and it was like, yeah, we was actually talking about it. I'm like, damn, Weed is crazy. And then another time I had hotboxed the bathroom, it was my uncle's birthday. He went to like, he put a beat on and we all freestyled and I kicked like the craziest freestyle I ever did in my life. And they were like, about to go do shit. I'm like, how the fuck are y'all functioning right now? Cause every time I blinked, I felt like a fly, like I had 1,000 eyes. Like, yeah, and it was crazy, cause I'm like, how the fuck, why does weed make you feel like this? Every time I blinked, it was like 1,000 eyes were blinking at the same time. So I thought that's how weed was. You think that shit wasn't laced? No, I don't think it was laced. I think it was probably some bad weed and we were smoking blunts. Some backyard boogies? Yeah, exactly. We were smoking blunts in a bathroom, like with a shower on and shit. I was probably suffocating. Yeah, man. Yeah, that's probably I probably wasn't doing too well. I first time I smoked was out of a black and mild. Oh, nice. I was 15, didn't know what I was doing. You stuff the black and mild? Yeah, took the tobacco out and filled it up with weed. It's a good concept. I mean, it worked. Yeah. I had a blunt roll with some glue before. Oh, no. Yeah. I didn't smoke it, but I seen it. Yeah, I looked at it. That's great. I think everybody has a story about wacky first time smoking weed. Yeah. But I really want to know, what is your number one munchie when you're high? Like, what is a snack that you need to have when you're sitting at home? Like, is it like a certain cookie, a brand of cookies? Is it like Doritos? Is it like fucking Cosmic Brownies? Like those little Debbie Cosmic Brownies? Yeah, yeah. These people don't pay me, but Funyuns. Bro, I love Funyuns. That's your shit. Yeah, Funyuns go crazy when you're stuck. It tastes like steak. Oh man, I haven't had Funyuns in years. It's crazy, don't start, because you're not going to stop. I think I'm going to get into it, because nah, I just have a taste for it. I think I'm going to go get some after this. Yo, Funyuns, bro. Have you ever had the Funyuns, the Hot Funyuns? I don't like anything. I don't want to with it. I don't like the Flamin Hot shit on these stuff. I like the Flamin Hot Cheetos. Yeah, I just don't like the Flamin Hot seasoning. Yeah, okay. Like anything with Flamin Hot on there. It's weird for you. I can't do it, bro. Yeah, nah, this won't do it. Yeah, I feel you, I feel you. What is your dream blunt rotation with like using cartoons? Like who's the four cartoon characters that you would love to smoke with? And I'll do mine after yours. Okay, four. Donatello from Ninja Turtles. Okay. Maybe Beavis from Beavis and Butt-Head. Oh, wow, that's really great. Rocco from Rocco's Modern Life. Oh, George Jetson. Okay. Yeah, hell yeah. Okay, so let me see. Mine would be, I'm gonna go with a Ninja Turtle first because you went with Ninja Turtle first. Got to. I would definitely smoke with Michelangelo. Yep. He seems like the stoner of the crew. Yeah, for sure. Doug, actually Doug and Skeeter. Yeah, yeah. Smoke with both of them, right? Stimpy from Ren and Stimpy. Nice. And there's this character, this cartoon that came out, it was very short lived, but it was called Freakazoid. Do you remember Freakazoid? I do remember Freakazoid. I would love to smoke with Freakazoid. Freakazoid was crazy, bro. He already was like, yeah, he was out there. Cracked out. Yeah. He was a little trippy. Yeah. Freakazoid is a good cartoon, bro. Yeah, I used to draw him. Like I loved, like, how he looked. Yeah. Know what I mean? That's a rare gem. Yeah. Like, I don't know how many people like- He was like a lightning bolt or something like that. Yeah. He was a nerd that fell into the computer and like became Freakazoid. Yeah. You know? Nice. What are some of your favorite collabs outside of hip hop? Honestly, my collab with Adam Levine in Maroon 5 on Payphone is one of the bigger songs that I've been involved with. And he just looked out, man. He was a G about that whole situation. Like they already had the song done. He was like, I want to put Wiz on here. Like he was just like, I need Wiz on this song. And had me come down to the studio, record my verse. Then when they shot the video, they were trying to shoot the video without me. Like they were just going to shoot their part. He was like, no, we're shooting a video of Wiz in it. I'm like, damn, you could have really just shot the video without me. And he's like, no, I wanted to make sure that your part is on there. And of course, they play it on the radio without my part because it's easy to cut the rap part out. But I've done multiple performances with him. And he just really looked out on involving me with that song and making sure that it was a song that we shared and it wasn't just them using me for the moment. I had a lot of momentum at that time. But I think for him, it was like, he genuinely wanted to make sure it was like a real ass thing. So I appreciated that. I still do. Yeah, yup. When people look out for you in that way, especially like the OGs, you've already been doing it for a while, you know? Yeah. It's a beautiful thing, man. Like, I remember working with like, Andre 3000 a couple of times. And it was just like, he wanted, he didn't want to just come and do a verse. He wanted to like, share the record with me. He wanted us to both have equal moments on the record. Right. You know? And I'm one of very few people that have been in a studio with Andre 3000 and watched him cook. Right. You know what I mean? And like, to learn from him in that moment, like to watch him. And, you know what I say, let me see what you come up with first, and then I'll figure it out from there. So I'd always start it off, and then he'd piggyback off of it, and then come up with something super fucking dope. But it was just watching him, and how confident he was with his choices. It was just inspiring, you know? But he was just so gracious. And like your situation with Adam, like when you have someone who you look up to, you're almost in this place where I wonder, is this a fucking joke? Like why do they want me? Yeah, like you know what I mean? I mean that's how it was when I first started working with Kanye, I was like what the fuck do I have? What's going on? Why does he want me on this? Like why is he doing all this, you know? Yeah, but it's beautiful to hear your stories because we've had similar experiences on different paths but in the same realm, you know? And it's really nice to hear you kind of reflect on these moments and talk about, you know what I mean? Because it's like, I just spent so many years in my life being depressed and being like stuck in my own hell and not paying attention to nothing but what was right in front of me. You know what I mean? So like my career was the only career I knew, you know? But it's dope because it's like, man, everybody has a story and everybody's had to survive this industry for over 15 years. And like we're still here and, you know, you have fans that fucking love you. I have fans that fucking love me. Like we're both ill in our own right. Like when people see us together, they rejoice. You know what I mean? Like it's like that's all I keep seeing when people see us on Twitter engaging or, you know, you'll see in the comments under this post when we post this podcast. right. You know what I mean? Like people just really, you know, love to see us together, you know? And that brings me to like saying that, like I really truly want Weed Induced Coma to be something very fucking epic. It will be. I think we get the fucking orchestra on them. I think we really go Hans Zimmer style. It will be. And really make something cinematic as fuck. Yeah. But for every stoner in the world. I trust you, dog. You know? That's what I'm here to do is, when we were cooking up the first time, the chat was like, what you gonna do? I'm like, whatever he doesn't do. You know, my favorite line from the chat was from, not the chat, but the stream is when you were like, yeah, so my dude told me we were two Tony Hawks. Yeah. I love that. I love that. It's true. And then I came up with the name Stony Hawk after that. Oh, that's fire. Yeah. Fire. Because I never threw that out there. I'm like, we have so many name names. It's right there. Stony Hawk, bro. Oh, bro. It's right there for the technique. You know, you've been doing this so long. I have my favorites. What's your favorite venue to ever perform at? I love Red Rocks. Red Rocks is dope. Red Rocks is my shit. Cause it feels like super futuristic. There's this spot in, I think it's like Minneapolis, or like some crazy, I forget what the fuck this spot is called. But it's got a pool in the basement. Like it's like haunted and shit. What the? It's this weird random ass spot. That's one of my favorite spots to go to. Indianapolis, bro. Indiana. Yeah, I love performing out there. They're just crazy, bro. Like if it rains, like sometimes they'll try to shut the show down and then they'll just like be outside making mudslides and like just fucking living it, yeah bro. Woodstock vibes. Hell yeah. Oh my god. What's your favorite country to perform in? I'll probably say Brazil. Yeah, I love Brazil. Yeah, Brazil is cracking. You be out there with them women, don't you? Yo, you freaky ass Wiz be out there with your fucking silk shirt, fucking chain on, shades on at night. Like, hey ladies, what y'all into? The women out there will tell you exactly what you deserve and show you what you deserve. And it's not like that anywhere. I mean, like every, it's not like that everywhere where they're like, you need this. Like, you're right. You can't get no writer. But the energy is cool. They're into like, you know, martial arts, mixed martial arts out there too. It's like, you train, you surf. It's like a whole badass lifestyle, bro. Like, yeah, yeah, it's cool, bro. Yeah, I got to, I haven't even really spent much time in Brazil. Yeah. You know, I got to. I'd be on my Ninja Turtle shit, man, like. Yeah, bro, I got to, I got to, I got to get out the house more, man. There's so much I haven't seen. It's cool. You'll get there. Yeah, I'll grow up one day. Yeah, no, it's just like a comfort zone thing. Like for me, like I like being outside of my comfort zone. Like that shit makes me happy. Yeah. Like, you know, just being loud and engaging and meeting people that I don't know. Like I love that shit, bro. I love meeting people too. I like fucking with people, yo, like just talking to them. And that's why I started this podcast. Yeah. This is like what I like to do. I love to like sit with people and like get to know them and chop it up. That shit is so fucking cool and so interesting. It's the best. It really is. If I go out to eat, like I'm gonna like talk to the waiter. I'm like, what's your name? What's up, Mike? Like, you know what I mean? Like, we're gonna have a conversation cause I'm just that type of person. Like, so I really feel like, you know, if I go places, of course it's gonna be for work and shit like that. And we gotta get our job done. We just gotta make the best of it. Have to, yo. You know what I mean? You just be going to record stores, buying records and shit like that. And just like experience, like doing, I will get some incense or some candles or something like that or, you know, just like to get out and about and just do some stuff, man. Well, I'm like a 15 year old boy. I go to the toy stores, the vintage toy stores. I go buy vintage toys. Hell yeah. Fucking right. I mean, it fulfills me. Hell yeah. It's one of the funny things I do when I'm on tour. Bro. I mean, but if you can imagine, every city I go to one and they're all different and they all have different shit. Yeah, exactly. It's so fucking cool. And you wake up with it on your mind. Yeah. And then I get back after tour, and then I have a shit ton of toys that I need to play somewhere in my fucking house. I want to ask, has your relationship with your hits changed over the years? Like, is it like, you know, songs like Black and Yellow and See You Again? You know what I mean? Like, does it like? Because for me, for Day and Night, I know some people have a weird thing with their older songs or their biggest songs. You know, it's almost like some artists don't ever perform their biggest songs. Right. But like, I just kind of started putting Day and Night in my set because, you know, I hadn't done it since back in the day. And, you know, I even started performing my Oli Wali too, because of what happened with TikTok and shit. Right, right. But like, do you like to perform older songs? Do you keep those in your set and always kind of do a journey through your discography? Yeah. Yeah, I do always perform my older songs. Luckily, I still like my older songs. I look at it like music of the decades and shit like that. So it's like, if you do now, that's what I call music, whatever you call it, whatever. Like you just have to have certain songs on it. And it's like, nobody's going to ever be mad hearing them songs. And it's like, to me, that's a privilege to have songs that nobody will ever get pissed hearing. Like, and then we have multiple of them. Like some people just have one or two. Bro, we got a whole wall full of those songs. Yeah, we got, between the two of us, we got some serious problems. Bro, it's like we have a lot of those songs. So to be able to revisit that. And then I also think about other countries and other ages of music. Like when I was, you know, probably like seven to about 15, I didn't even hear words of music. I knew the lyrics and I could repeat the lyrics, but I didn't know what none of that shit even meant. So it's like there's people who don't even know what that shit even really fucking means. Like we write with our souls and we're really telling the story, but it takes time for that shit to even develop and for people to even know what you're talking about. So I think about that as well as like some people, they still on the top layer of that shit. I'm, you know, 15, 20 years in, but they still scratching the surface when it comes to some of those songs. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I like to dig in. I like to give those, I like to give that to them. I like to do the new stuff as well, but I also know like when I go see an artist that I love who's been doing it for a long time and they do too much new shit, I'm like, come on bro, like. I feel you. Give me that shit dog. So that's funny you bring that up because I'm like, you know, a couple of weeks ago, I was just kind of like fine tuning my setlist. And, you know, there was a whole thing online where on Twitter, somebody asked me to post the setlist. And I was like, this is weird. I was like, people actually do this. People actually post their setlist before their concert and like just ruin the surprise. And a lot of people were really upset because there were a lot of people that really wanted me to tell them what to expect. So I took a few days and thought about it. I was like, look, I'll say something, but you know, I'm not gonna give too much away, but I'm gonna give people an idea of what to expect, right? And I did a story on my IG where I was kind of just like, hey, this is going to be a celebration of my discography. We'll do some new stuff, but I know I have 13 albums of shit to go through and cover and songs that I haven't performed in years. Some songs I haven't performed at all. And the fans were really into that shit. They were like, yeah, this is fucking dope. It was never my plan to come out on tour and do my last album all the way through. There's so many other songs. I never got to tour in Sano, in Sano and Atramega. I broke my foot. I had to cancel that last tour. So even though there's three albums I have to cover, it's still like 10 more that I have to cover too. You know what I mean? And like, there's just no way I could do a show and not do the Mr. Ragers or the tequila shots. You know what I mean? These are like songs that people like, they are, they're like showing up knowing that that song is gonna be played and that they can sing it at the top of their lungs. You know what I mean? And it's crazy, man. I feel when you're out on stage and you know you have the perfect set list, right? And you see the reactions, like one song after the other, you play that song, you drop that shit, you see, ah! You drop another one, ah! It's like everybody's like, this is my shit, this is my shit. And it is so validating and it feels so good because I don't know if other artists feel this way, but that means so much to me, like they're loving the curation of music that I chose. You know what I mean? Or like when people after the concert are like, yo, that was the best concert, you know what I mean? For sure. As a fan of music, how do you find new music? Like me, I like fucking like put on Spotify, I'll play one song and I just let it play, you know, or do it with album music as well. Yep. Like, how do you discover music? Do you have people putting you on, people sending you records? Do you like, are you all actually on the internet looking for new music? Yeah, I actively be like fucking searching for new shit. IG, you can find a lot of shit on IG. Yeah. There's just be random shit that be playing during clips. I'll be like, what the hell is that? Or some people have shit on their story that I follow. And I'll be like, you know, figure it out. But Spotify is good. Girls. Yeah, girls have like really good music selection. They do. Yeah, so like, I just ask chicks. You know what I mean? I'll be like, what you listening to? Yeah, I told my wife to make me a playlist, but she hasn't made me one yet. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm really waiting on it. Cause she, her, you know, she's French. So she, her palette of music is gonna be different. Yeah. You know what I mean? The mind. Yeah. So I don't really like party like that no more. And plus when you go out to the club, they play Soulja Boy. So you're not really gonna get no new shit in the club. No, no, no. Like my homies, they still be like chilling with people. So if they got people around, like maybe it's after a show, they got people around, I'll let a chick get on the ox and I'll just be like asking her like what she's playing or like diving to those artists. Like, cause I'll definitely hear some shit that I never heard before. But girls put you on to a lot. Hell yeah. Like, I mean, every dude needs to know that like girls are the secret to knowing cool shit. For sure. You know? Yeah. Like, they determine if something is cool or not. 100 percent. That's when you elevate your taste level. Yeah. You start listening to chicks. Yeah. Like, my wife is so like, she's so sharp with the shit. Like, you know, I ask her advice about everything. It's a beautiful thing to have that like in the house with me. Yeah. Like, I don't have to Google. I can just ask my wife. I like bossy chicks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like chicks who will be like, say how it is. Exactly. Like, not controlling. No, but just keep it way funky. Yeah, super duper funky. Like, that's cool. I think it's cause my mom is like really bossy. So that's how I know how to communicate. I don't know how to communicate with like, like sugar coating that shit. Yeah, my mom is like the Elsie. Yeah, my mom be like, What's your mom's name? My mom's name is Peachy. Peachy and Elsie. Oh yeah, yeah. My mom be like- Mama Wiz, mama cut. For sure. My mom be like, put some lotion on them ashy ass hands. He's like, aw. Okay, mama. All right, man. It's time for the wrap up. These are a few random questions to close up the show. You ready? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. What's one thing you nerd out about that we might not expect? Right now is plants. Okay. Yeah, I'm super into plants, bro. Do you like have a garden? I'm just turning my house into a jungle, bro. I love it. Yeah. I love it. Yeah, it's crazy. It's super dope. Oh, man. It's sick to just go with the weed. It's perfect. Yeah, for sure. What is your favorite chain watch or piece of jewelry? My favorite piece of jewelry now is the beads that I wear. I actually got you some. Oh, yeah. This is Tiger's Eye. Oh, yeah. You wear that. That's for protection. Oh, man. You know what I mean? That's what I like. Yeah, get you right. Right next to the AP. There you go. That type of shit. With Master Jacket too. Boom, boom. Wiz Khalifa. I was thinking about you. I was like, I'm going to see Cud. Oh, man. Let me get it. Let me get it. Bring in gifts. Get gifty. Get gifty. Get gifty, get gifty. Artemis II went to the moon. If you were to go to space, what would your aircraft be called? Wisdom is prime. That's great. What's your favorite moment of a music legend showing you love? I'd probably say like Busta Rhymes gives like really big hugs. He does. He does. He's a gargantuan man. He like gives you a big hug. He calls you a king. He like tells you how like graceful your journey has been. Yeah. It's really, he just embraces you. I like getting hugged by Busta Rhymes, man. Busta Rhymes performed at my 40th birthday party. Yeah, I fuck with Busta, man. Yeah, he's a great guy. He is a good dude. You know, him and Spliff, they came through and I remember when I first got signed to Motown, I had like a party for me, this little event. And Busta Rhymes came and I met him and he was like, what's up, million dollar kid, million dollar kid. And we showing love and I was just like, dude, you're Busta Rhymes. Hell of love, bro. He'll hype you up real nice, bro. He met my mom at the BET Awards. It was so funny. I was like, yo, Busta knew my mom. He was like, what's up, Black Queen? I was like, oh my God. I was like, my mom couldn't believe it. What's your biggest moonshot, a goal, a dream or ambition that might seem impossible? Damn, because I could kind of like see like where I'm going to be and who I am. And I don't think like any of it's really like impossible. There's a lot of money involved. But when people see the amount of money, I don't want them to trip out. I don't want them to think that like that's going like into my bank account. This amount of money is going to get used to do something. Right. When I get it, I think that's probably like the biggest thing that I see and know is like how valuable my operation is going to be. Yeah. Yeah. With the tree. Yeah. With just everything, the whole lifestyle, like it's all going to come together and just be this thing. It's going to be used to help other things as well, but it's going to be crazy. Who's one guest do you think has to have on the show? Currency. Okay. Yeah. Okay. No deal. Have Currency on him. Currency. We gon have you come through. No, I've never met Currency. Yeah. Spitter, man. Yeah, man. Yep. So everybody loves Spitter. He's such a good dude, bro. He seem like it, man. Yeah. He seem like a good dude. That's my Big Bro. Yeah. Like for sure. Like you don't get friends like that in the industry. We're not like industry friends. We're like, and then I have to remember like that. I'm younger than him because I just got so much respect for him and so much love, but I'm actually like his little homie. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. When you get those relationships in this industry, you keep them close. Yeah, for sure. For sure. You lock in. Yeah. And that's what we do. We locked in. Bro, we're there. Anytime, every time. We could just keep doing this, you know, keep like, you know, coming up with shit and then I'll just pull up. Damn right. Damn right. We in the kitchen, man. We in the kitchen. Well, my nigga, thanks for coming, man. Yeah, we gotta finish the EP. Yes. You just let me know like what you wanna do next session. We don't have to stream everyone. We don't have to stream. We not gonna stream everyone. Yeah. We want you guys to be surprised about what, when the album comes out, you know, we don't want every record you to be heard already. Yep. But we are gonna work on this EP, Weed Induced Coma is coming this year, right? Yeah. Can we do it this year? Hell yeah. It's coming this year. This summer. This summer. Yep. Okay. But this is happening, y'all. It is. Weed Induced Coma. Yep. You heard it here first, 420 episode. Oh shit. Thanks for coming. Peace. Thanks for coming through the attic and celebrating 420 with us. Big love to Jimmy John's on this one. Until next time, love yourself, take care of each other, and remember, dream on. Peace.