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Speaker 1:
[03:20] You go to Singapore or Thailand, you can't not do it.

Speaker 9:
[03:23] The temptation is just too much.

Speaker 8:
[03:25] Does your friend know that you're banging her?

Speaker 9:
[03:27] No, he has no idea.

Speaker 3:
[03:30] Motto of the show, let your Greek flag fly.

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[03:32] Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and chain.

Speaker 1:
[03:37] Here is your host, Cathy.

Speaker 8:
[03:40] Hey, welcome to the Strip It Only podcast with Cathy. You haven't followed the Strictly Anonymous Podcast yet on Instagram or Twitter, and you want to follow me, follow me at Strict Anonymous. If you want to be on the show, it's called Strictly Anonymous because I change everybody's voices and everyone's name. So if you have an interesting, naughty secret life or even just regular, not so naughty life that you want to talk about while remaining anonymous or not anonymous, if you're out and proud, that's cool too, you can be on the show. I also look for health related stories now. I have a sexual health Saturdays. So if you have any kind of interesting health story, I love stuff like that, health and fitness story, you could send me an email at StrictlyAnonymousPodcast at gmail.com or just go to my website strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on Be on the Show. If you have a naughty confession that you want to leave on my Confessions Hotline, you could do that 24-7, the number is 347-420-3579. That's 347-420-3579. Some of those confessions make it on to a confessions episode and I talk about them. The rest of them all go up on my Patreon. My Patreon is a great place. Listen, if you're annoyed with these beginning intros and you don't want to hear effing ads and you want to see a hot pics of all the females who have called into my show, plus take part in all of the polls and questions and contests we have over on my Patreon, join my Patreon for just $7 a month. That's like super cheap. I also throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord. My Discord is great. We're having the annual dick pic contest coming up. So you want to join so you could take part in the infamous dick pic contest. Last year, we did the dick pic contest. We got like 250 dick pics, okay? Winner is going to get 300 bucks, okay? So if you want to join that, you got to get into my Discord. I do throw in complimentary access to my private Discord if you join my Patreon. Like I said, it's just $7 a month and you could cancel it anytime or you could buy my book. I have a book. It's called Strictly Anonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. It's like 17 stories from my show told in the third person. They're quick, short stories. Think like Penthouse Forum letters or naughty true stories, all in one book. It's available in e-back format, paperback format. And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, send me a screenshot of your order and I'll also give you complimentary access to my private Discord. My Discord is effing great. That's where you could go in and post your own stuff. My Discord is super fun. People get very naughty on there. We have lots of contests, tons of different channels with all kinds of content, but it is private. And I only give links to either my guests. If you call into the show, you get a link to my Discord or get my book or join my Patreon. You get it from all that. Last thing I want to tell you about is if you are looking to get into the lifestyle, the site I recommend to everybody is sdc.com. sdc.com is like the world's largest online adult dating site, but it's so much more than a dating site. It's more than a pickup place. Okay. You go on there, you're going to learn everything about the lifestyle. They have live events. They have educational stuff that you can learn on there. They also will tell you where all the gangbangs and swinger clubs and orgies and parties that are going on in your area and your neighborhood or if you're traveling, you can find out what's going on there too. That's what's great about SDC. It's like a one-stop shop for the lifestyle. And if you use my code 37712, you're going to get a free trial. So you could check it out. So go to sdc.com, use code 37712, or just go to the description and click on the link. All the links, everything I told you about including my Patreon is in the description. So anyway, today I have on James and Jess. They are super fun. Oh my God, there was a couple of times with James and I'm just like, what the fuck? He's so funny. There's a couple of things that I was like, oh, I can't believe it. But it's a fun conversation. James has this wife, Jess, who I'm like, oh my God, she's so much nicer than me. She's married. They've been together for a very long time. And he was always a super jealous Latin guy, very possessive of her and stuff. But eventually he started, like a lot of guys, like kind of getting into watching videos online of guys, of their wives with other guys. And he started getting into that kink, which was even surprising for him, right? Cause he's like a super jealous guy. And then he eventually, and he tells the whole long winded story. I'm just telling you the short version. He eventually tells her, she eventually decides to be okay with it and try it out. And they wind up doing it. She's definitely into black guys. They explain why she's calls herself like a queen of spades, hot wave. Now she has had a bunch of experiences and they go through the first one and then the second one. They talk about all their rules that they had. That's where I go off on James. Wait till you hear one of his rules he had for her and how nice she was about it. And they talk about how it has affected their relationship and how things have changed. They eventually did start an OnlyFans and an Instagram. I will put the name of it and they give a shout out to it at the end. But their whole story of how they went from being like a vanilla couple and they had actually, I forgot about this, in the beginning after they had kids, they did like have issues with Jess really not being into sex and she eventually went on testosterone therapy and she talks about that as well. And that's super interesting too. So anyway, their whole story is interesting. They're a fun couple to talk to. They both called in together. I have hot pics of Jess over on my Patreon. You could sign up there to see pics of her and all my other guests. But anyway, I'm going to get right to and be right back on with James and Jess.

Speaker 7:
[09:11] This is the Strictly Anonymous Podcast.

Speaker 8:
[09:17] Hi, James and Jess. You guys are both sitting in a car, ready to talk to me. I can't tell you how many people are doing that. I always make jokes. People are either cheating. Adults, the only things they do in their car is drive to their destination, cheat with a partner, or they're calling into my show. This is what adults are doing in their car. So many couples are calling me from their car. It's so funny. So is your James and Jess? Jess is the hot wife, queen of spades, hot wife. Okay. Whatever I put that in a title, people go crazy for it. I don't know. The whole interracial thing is really a big, you know? But anyway, I have you both on the call, right? Jess claims to say, seems to think she's a bad storyteller, but we'll see, okay? Jess, we definitely want to hear from you. Okay. So make sure to chime in and talk. But like, where do you guys want to start? First of all, tell me first, you guys, like how long you've been married and how long you guys been together and around how old are you?

Speaker 10:
[10:09] Okay. So we're in our mid 40s, and she's slightly a little bit older than I am.

Speaker 8:
[10:17] You like the older women?

Speaker 10:
[10:20] I don't know that that's what she pursued me, I would say.

Speaker 8:
[10:23] Oh, I like it. So Jess is not a good storyteller, but she's aggressive.

Speaker 10:
[10:28] Yeah, for sure. We've been married for 22 years.

Speaker 8:
[10:32] Okay. And so before you guys got into this, what was your life in the bedroom like?

Speaker 10:
[10:43] So our bedroom, how can I say? It started off spicy. When we first met, we were having sex everywhere. Like it was just by the lake in a car.

Speaker 8:
[10:57] Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the car?

Speaker 10:
[11:01] During the day, in front of my parents' house, crazy shit like that.

Speaker 8:
[11:05] You just couldn't keep your hands off each other. I feel like that's how it should be in the beginning, right?

Speaker 10:
[11:10] Right. And then kids, the whole kids' thing.

Speaker 8:
[11:14] Oh, I know.

Speaker 10:
[11:15] Yeah. And then for many years, I would say, it was just, we were just going through the motions, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[11:22] How many kids did you have?

Speaker 10:
[11:23] I had.

Speaker 11:
[11:23] It was so good.

Speaker 10:
[11:24] Yeah. I mean, it wasn't bad. Sex was good, but it wasn't great, I would say. It wasn't the way it is now, where it's just amazing.

Speaker 8:
[11:32] Right.

Speaker 10:
[11:32] But so, and I used to be a super jealous person. Right. The typical story is I was a super jealous guy.

Speaker 8:
[11:42] Like if anyone even ogled your girl, would you get pissed off?

Speaker 10:
[11:45] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8:
[11:45] Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[11:45] Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was I was constantly looking to see who was looking at my girl. You know, she's a Latina with a big old booty. You know, she's.

Speaker 8:
[11:54] Yeah. So you know, guys are checking her out.

Speaker 10:
[11:56] Exactly. And I was young and dumb, you know, full of testosterone, you know.

Speaker 8:
[12:01] And and you're Latina, too. You're a Latin, too.

Speaker 10:
[12:04] Me? Yes.

Speaker 8:
[12:05] Because so it's your culture. Don't you think a little bit to be very possessive and jealous? And yes, yes.

Speaker 10:
[12:12] Yeah. Possessive for sure.

Speaker 8:
[12:13] Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[12:13] I saw her more as like a possession.

Speaker 8:
[12:15] Yeah. Yeah. I think it's a part of your culture a little bit.

Speaker 10:
[12:19] Exactly. Yeah, I hate to. Yeah, it's a it's a bad thing. But and I guess the older that I got, you know, I've just started realizing certain things and just, you know, stuff like that is just nonsense, you know?

Speaker 8:
[12:29] Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[12:29] But yeah, so yeah, I was super jealous. But in a way, you know, because I would question her about, you know, her, you know, boyfriends that she had had, you know, and I know that in my head it was like turning me on, you know, like I'm saying, this typical story that you hear on all your shows, it would turn me on.

Speaker 8:
[12:49] Were you even surprised by that?

Speaker 10:
[12:51] I was. I was very, I was like, what the hell is going on?

Speaker 8:
[12:54] Yeah, I could imagine. That's what I say all the time and I think it's very true. People tend to think guys are super, like super selfish in bed, but typically I think men really want to please a woman. It gets their, it feeds their ego, right?

Speaker 10:
[13:34] For sure.

Speaker 8:
[13:35] Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[13:35] Yes. And so, so then, so she would tell me, you know, that she had very low energy, you know, just didn't, she's like, I want to have sex with you, but I just don't feel the drive. And you know, I had, I think I had listened to your podcast and then other podcasts as well. And you know, they were talking about getting women on testosterone. And, and I, I take, you know, you're going to frown on this, you're going to frown on this big time.

Speaker 8:
[14:01] Oh, no.

Speaker 10:
[14:03] But well, I don't know that we started this way. But anyway, I did have her go to the doctor and the doctor is a buddy of mine and we kind of, you know, told him the whole thing. And he agreed, you know, to get her on test. And so, so I started and she was OK with it. I was super nervous about that, like even bringing that up to her, because I thought she was going to shoot it down and she was going to be like, no, no, no, you know.

Speaker 8:
[14:27] But she was open to it. Jess, you were like, you were down. You wanted to get your sex drive back.

Speaker 11:
[14:32] Yes. Yes. Because, I mean, like he said, it was super hot at the beginning. And then, of course, you know, I became a mom and we had kids. And I still wanted to please him because I've always been the type of person that's like, you know, they say happy wife, happy life. But no, it's happy husband, happy wife, happy life.

Speaker 8:
[14:48] Everyone needs to be happy.

Speaker 11:
[14:50] Yeah. Yes, you keep him happy and he's gonna, you know, do everything to make you happy. And so I always try to make him happy at home. And it was just hard because I didn't have the energy. I didn't have the drive, but I wanted to please him.

Speaker 8:
[15:04] And all of that is testosterone, especially because you're saying energy too. You know, that's all testosterone.

Speaker 11:
[15:10] Yeah. So as soon as I mentioned it to the doctor, I said, I don't really have a sex drive. I said, and I'm just tired. And he said, you're low on testosterone. And I said, you know what? That's what my husband said. He had me do blood work and sure enough, he put me on testosterone and it was great. It was great. Immediately. It was great.

Speaker 8:
[15:26] How did you take your testosterone? Was it a cream? Was it a?

Speaker 11:
[15:30] No, first it was a cream, like in between the thighs. And I was on that for a couple of years. And after a while, I started kind of not working as good. And so I went back and he said, you know what? We need to do like an injection. And he said, it'll be very minimal. And I was just afraid of the side effects, you know? And so at first he had me on quite a bit. So I was having the side effect.

Speaker 8:
[15:53] What were the side effects?

Speaker 11:
[15:54] Well, the breakouts and the just, oh yeah, that's how you know. You know, certain things like that.

Speaker 8:
[16:00] Yeah.

Speaker 11:
[16:00] And we backed off a little bit. And so finally, I think I'm at the point where I'm good now because I don't have the breakouts anymore. And, you know, everything else.

Speaker 10:
[16:10] You got to dial in these because you got to dial in.

Speaker 11:
[16:12] Yes. And so, I mean, I take very little, but we were taking it twice a week.

Speaker 8:
[16:16] But what was I going to hate you for? You haven't told me yet. Did you just start dipping into her rejections or something?

Speaker 10:
[16:21] Well, I forgot that we did go to the doctor and all that. But there was there was at a point where I think she stopped the cream and she used a little bit of my testosterone.

Speaker 8:
[16:32] Oh my God. Maybe that's why she was breaking out.

Speaker 10:
[16:36] Listen, Kathy, I know you frowned on that, but listen, it's the exact same thing.

Speaker 8:
[16:41] It is.

Speaker 10:
[16:42] Mine's prescribed as well, and it's a sustained bottle. You just give her less.

Speaker 8:
[16:48] I know, but when you look at the formula, sometimes it's like five milligrams of this amount. I can't explain it, but it's okay. You're past that now. She's being dosed by the doctors, right?

Speaker 11:
[17:01] So then I could mention it to the doctor, and he said, if you want to try a little bit of your husband's, like a little one, he told me, I can't even handle doctors that say shit like that. I said, okay, we'll try it, and we tried it and showing up, and it works.

Speaker 8:
[17:14] Okay, no, I cannot promote anyone using anyone else's medication. But I can promote testosterone for women. It does work, and it was a game changer for you, right?

Speaker 11:
[17:28] Yes.

Speaker 8:
[17:29] Yeah, it saves women's lives. It's really great, and men, too.

Speaker 11:
[17:34] It saves marriages, too, I feel.

Speaker 8:
[17:36] Yeah, for sure, for sure. Okay, so now you're on testosterone, you're back to being horny.

Speaker 11:
[17:41] Yes.

Speaker 10:
[17:42] Yeah, so then our sex just was back to normal again. Well, above normal, she was wanting to in the mornings and at night, every morning and every night. And it was great.

Speaker 8:
[17:57] Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[17:58] And so I would still watch porn every now and then, you know, because obviously we're parents and sometimes one parent is angry, the other one, you know, it's not always.

Speaker 8:
[18:11] Couples just still watch porn separately. I mean, I think it's more normal.

Speaker 10:
[18:16] Yeah. Well, you know, and at the time she was still a little bit against it.

Speaker 11:
[18:20] I was against it because I felt like I should be the one turning you on and I should be.

Speaker 8:
[18:24] Oh, my God. That has nothing. It doesn't mean it doesn't mean that he's not turned on.

Speaker 11:
[18:28] No, absolutely not. Oh, my mentality is completely different. I was I'm super uptight. So how I got here, it's on him.

Speaker 8:
[18:36] Right.

Speaker 11:
[18:36] But I was super uptight, super shy, you know. And so this kind of brought me out of my show, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 8:
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Speaker 10:
[20:43] You know, it's not always.

Speaker 8:
[20:45] You still watch porn separately. I mean, I think it's more normal.

Speaker 10:
[20:49] Yeah. Well, you know, and at the time she was still a little bit against it.

Speaker 11:
[20:54] I was against it because I felt like I should be the one turning you on. And I should be.

Speaker 8:
[20:58] Oh, my God. That has nothing. It doesn't mean that he's not turned on.

Speaker 11:
[21:03] Oh, my mentality is completely different. I was I'm super uptight. So how I got here, it's on him.

Speaker 8:
[21:09] Right.

Speaker 11:
[21:10] But I was super uptight, super shy, you know. And so this kind of brought me out of my show, I guess.

Speaker 10:
[21:18] Yeah.

Speaker 11:
[21:18] You know.

Speaker 10:
[21:20] Yeah. So so then I ran across some porn where a guy was recording his wife getting fucked. I can say, right?

Speaker 8:
[21:31] Yes, you can.

Speaker 10:
[21:31] And and I thought, wow, what a weirdo. You know, it wasn't what I was thinking. Like, what a stimp. You know what I mean? I had that mentality, right?

Speaker 8:
[21:44] Totally.

Speaker 10:
[21:45] And yeah. And and then I just found myself that I just kept watching it. And I'm like, why am I still watching it? And then eventually it was like, oh, this is kind of hot. It's kind of hot if you, like, set everything aside. And I'm like, you know, and the girl was super into it. It was a black guy that was fucking her. But it's and that's not the whole thing about it, right? It's just what they were doing. And I thought, well, it's super naughty. And it's and it is kind of hot. And I got to a point where I would I was going to that video. But I would imagine my wife in that scenario. I was imagining my wife all the time. I didn't care. Whatever girl that was, I was imagining my wife in that situation. And it just progressed, I guess, into a thing where it was like, I want this to happen. I need this to be my wife. And we went for a while, you know, just doing our wild stuff because once you got on testosterone, once again, you know, we were fucking outside of the truck, you know, on the side of the road, crazy stuff.

Speaker 8:
[22:48] You're having fun again. Like it revived, it revived your sex life. That's how it should be. You're married.

Speaker 11:
[22:54] He travels a lot for work and I go with him and that's actually what we're doing now. We're on, we're traveling. That's why we're in the vehicle having this interview. And so that's why he's saying like in the vehicle and outside the vehicle, I mean, we would pull over everywhere just, you know, Right.

Speaker 10:
[23:10] Yeah. Because at home, you know, we've got the kids, so there's only so much you can do at home.

Speaker 8:
[23:15] Right.

Speaker 10:
[23:15] But yeah, this is like our time away where we can do all our crazy stuff.

Speaker 8:
[23:19] So do you, do you wind up copying to her that this is like what you're secretly watching and into eventually, I would assume?

Speaker 10:
[23:27] Not really. Not really. What I did do is one night we were traveling and, you know, it was late and I was like two in the morning. And, you know, you start talking about, you know, naughty things. And so we, I was talking to, cause I kind of, I wanted to bring it up. And what I brought up to her was a fantasy. I said, I asked her, I said, what, you know, do you have any type of fantasies? And my wife is like super vanilla. So she was like, no, nothing. I was like, okay. I was like, well, you know, and the typical thing is like, I was afraid that she was going to be like, is he gay? You're like, why is he, why is he wanting to do this? You know, and so I went ahead and told her, I was like, hey, like, I've got a fantasy. I'm like, we're threesome, but it's not the type of threesome that you think. I said, I would like to, you know, for it to be you and me and another guy. And yeah, she was very surprised, you know, but I would get into detail about it. And, you know, I could tell that it would turn her on. And but at the same time, she would question me, you know, thinking that I was just that it was like a way in for me to try to get a girl.

Speaker 8:
[24:43] Totally, that's what everyone says. Jess, let me hear from you. Like, what were those thoughts going through your mind when your husband comes in today? Because listen, the only reason why I know this, this is a kink and it's so popular is because I do my show. But when I was outside of my show, I would be shocked if some guy came and told me that because not one guy ever in my life ever said that, including the guy that just told me he was into it and I was always his best friend. So, you know, I don't think that most people know that this is something that guys are into. So when he first comes to you and tells you that, you kind of think it's like a trap for him to get the two-girl thing going on.

Speaker 11:
[25:14] Yes. Well, and especially coming from a person that was so jealous and controlling his relationship. You know what I mean? So I honestly didn't know what to think at first. I thought, oh my God, is he trying to leave me? Is he trying to test me to see if I'm going to go along with this and what's going to happen or is it because he wants another girl? And I told him, I said, look, if you want another girl, like I wasn't okay with it at the moment because I was still kind of close minded, you know? And so I told him, I was like, if you want another girl, I said, I mean, you can try it. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not bi, you know? But I was like, we can kind of try it, I guess. But I wasn't really completely open to it. You know, like I wasn't expecting it to happen like right away or anything like that. Right.

Speaker 8:
[25:58] But you couldn't believe what he was putting out there. Like even though he's telling you, this is what I like, you're thinking it has to be something else other than this.

Speaker 11:
[26:05] Yes. And so I mean, we just kept going with the conversations and every time we traveled, we'd bring up those conversations because that's what would keep us up at night because sometimes we travel through the night. And so it was always our conversations and more and more he kept saying it. And I thought, oh my gosh, he's serious. He's really serious about this. And I thought, how is he going to let someone else touch me if he used to be so jealous? And like he said, he used to question my past, you know, I didn't have a big past or anything. I just had a couple of boyfriends. And so he would question those. And I kept thinking, oh my gosh, he's just testing me right now to see what I say.

Speaker 8:
[26:46] Or like it sounds like a trap, right? Like you're going to you're going to give him what he wants and he's going to get upset. There's no way, right? Yeah, I would be afraid to.

Speaker 11:
[26:55] Yes. But no, I mean, it wasn't that wasn't the case.

Speaker 10:
[26:58] So yeah, I was I was being 100 percent and I didn't bring it up to her until I knew that I was like at least 90 percent sure about what I wanted us to do.

Speaker 8:
[27:08] Right.

Speaker 10:
[27:08] Because so I would play out the scenario constantly over in my head and think and also think about, well, what could be the negative part of this? And like, like I thought some said, okay, the worst thing that could happen is she can really dig the guy that she's fucking and then she could run off. And you know what? If that's what it is, you know what? What am I going to do? You know, you just got to keep living life. Right. It's not it's not over. You know, life's not over. It'll be fine.

Speaker 8:
[27:33] But that's a logical thing to think of. I mean, you know, for people that don't think that they're stupid. Right. Like you're thinking it all through every angle. Right. And that is a possibility. How do you know you're offering her up to somebody else?

Speaker 10:
[27:45] Exactly.

Speaker 8:
[27:45] Right.

Speaker 10:
[27:46] And for my thing is, so I'm an average guy, you know, I've got an average size cock, maybe a little bit above average, but but it's just average, you know. And so I wanted her to experience, you know, what I was watching in porn, you know, I was watching.

Speaker 8:
[28:00] Isn't that weird? Every guy is like you. It's like that's another thing, Jess. Isn't that like the opposite of what you would think you'd want? Someone bigger than him? Like it doesn't make any sense. It's like the upside down world.

Speaker 11:
[28:12] It's just the whole scenario was just like, what in the world are you saying? As far as like him thinking that I was going to think he was good, I absolutely did not think that whatsoever. And then he did show me, he started showing me like the videos that he was talking about. And I thought, okay, it looks like she's having fun. It looks like work, but it looks like she's having fun. And so I still just thought, oh, it's just a fantasy. You know, it's going to stay as a fantasy. I didn't heard her act out on it. You know, like I said, it was just more for him if that's what he wanted to do. I thought, okay, but I really didn't think it was going to, we're going to go through with it, to be honest. I didn't think it was going to happen.

Speaker 10:
[28:52] She thought I was all talk, but I was for real.

Speaker 11:
[28:55] It was not all talk.

Speaker 8:
[28:56] Okay, keep going. How does it progress? This is like the super interesting start, right? Because that everybody that hasn't started yet, like these are the moments that changes everything, right?

Speaker 10:
[29:06] Right. And so the second step is to just look for a guy.

Speaker 8:
[29:12] Well, when did she say, okay, let's do this in real life?

Speaker 10:
[29:16] She pretty would like maybe three months in, maybe something like that. We talked about it a lot.

Speaker 11:
[29:20] Because we didn't actually do anything until like a year later.

Speaker 10:
[29:24] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 11:
[29:24] It was about a year later.

Speaker 10:
[29:25] Yeah. But you had agreed to it though.

Speaker 11:
[29:27] Yes. Because I thought he was just bluffing. I was calling him bluff.

Speaker 8:
[29:31] So you're just like, yeah, okay, we'll do it fine. But you didn't think it was going to happen.

Speaker 11:
[29:35] Yeah. Because I was like, he's full of it. He's not going to go through with it. Well, I mean, you set up the Instagram account.

Speaker 10:
[29:44] Yeah. So another thing also is that.

Speaker 11:
[29:47] Well, first, he used to take video of us, we were having sex and I sometimes didn't really pay attention. Like I was all into it and he had already set up something. And I'm like, what in the world you're recording? He's like, yes.

Speaker 8:
[29:59] Oh my God.

Speaker 11:
[30:00] And so I felt very insecure about my body. And he was loving it. He would record us and since the videos were just for him, I thought, well, okay, it's fine. You know, you're going off into another day. So go ahead with the Instagram.

Speaker 8:
[30:20] This is interesting. What's wrong with that?

Speaker 10:
[30:24] No, it's because she's going off into the fact that she's got an only, you know, into how she got into that. But we're still on the hot wiping part.

Speaker 11:
[30:31] I know, but this was the part that got us there.

Speaker 8:
[30:35] Right, because you start, before you hook up with a guy, he starts, wait, but listen to me, you guys, before you hook up with a guy, you do start this Instagram account with these videos or pictures, right? OK, so that's important to say.

Speaker 11:
[30:47] And this was behind my back. He went off and was easy. So he set up an Instagram account because I would tell him, you know, I was so insecure about my body, about myself, and he was like, no, you have this amazing butt and all this stuff. And I was like, it's just you. It's just you thinking that.

Speaker 10:
[31:05] Let me tell this story because she talks down about herself a lot and I don't like it because she's amazing. But anyway, so the thing is, she used to, what she used to do is, she used to always be like bent over on the bed. She's got this big old booty. She'd be bent over on the bed waiting for me, right? And just, you know, once I'd get out of the shower. And so I would sneak a picture every now and then. And I think, I think she knew I was taking pictures. And so on Instagram, I noticed that there was a lot of girls that were showing their ass. And I'm like, well, my wife's ass is either just like this or better, you know? So so I made an account and I don't think anybody should do this. I just I did it is I've set up an account and started posting her pics and I wanted her to see the love that she would get on Instagram so she could see that she's wrong, that she's not right.

Speaker 8:
[32:03] Right. You want to give her the confidence because you're trying to tell her you're hot and she's not listening to you. Yeah, yes.

Speaker 10:
[32:09] And I wanted to show her that like, hey, there's other men out here that think you're hot as well.

Speaker 8:
[32:13] Like, yeah, right.

Speaker 10:
[32:14] It's not just me. I'm not famous just because I love you. It's because I really, you know, that aside, I think you're hot.

Speaker 8:
[32:21] Right.

Speaker 10:
[32:21] So did this immediately got tons of followers, thousands.

Speaker 8:
[32:26] Oh, you're kidding.

Speaker 10:
[32:27] So then I worked up the courage. I was like, you know what?

Speaker 11:
[32:29] I think it was less than a month.

Speaker 10:
[32:31] But anyway, so I worked up the courage to tell her about it. I'll say, hey, so I did this. And she was a little bit upset about it, but then quickly got over it. She saw how many she was getting tons of likes and good comments.

Speaker 11:
[32:45] So my thing was that I just didn't want my face to be shown. I didn't want anyone to know it's me. So I was just afraid. But once he showed me that it was just booty pics and, you know, just things like that, my face was not being shown. I thought, okay, you know what? That's fine.

Speaker 10:
[32:59] Right. Yeah. So, so then that progressed to the Olyfans. And I told her about only, I said, hey, I think we could make money with this, with your booty. But and so then we opened up the Olyfans, started doing that. It was decent. And but the conversations that the guys were having with her, a lot of them were like suggesting that she should be with a black guy. And then it just, I don't know, I had already been watching that point as well. And I was like, you know, this would be good. And then I guess we're going back. And then, you know, I brought up the whole thing to her, but the threesome and all that. And then I guess we can move on from there. But so, so I started looking on Reddit for a guy, you know, there's certain pages, there's certain pages on Reddit that you can look for BBC in Texas.

Speaker 8:
[33:51] Right.

Speaker 10:
[33:52] And so got on there, advertised her, and, you know, got all kinds of messages. And the sad thing about it is there's a lot of, there's a lot of fakes, so many fakes. And a lot of guys are on there, they'll post pictures of other guys and say that it's them, just to get a picture of your wife.

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Speaker 10:
[38:20] So I started looking on Reddit for a guy. There's certain pages on Reddit that you can look for BBC in Texas. Right. And so got on there, advertiser, and got all kinds of messages. And the sad thing about it is there's a lot of fakes, so many fakes. And a lot of guys are on there that'll post pictures of other guys and say that it's them, just to get a picture of your wife. Right. And I started getting a whole lot of that. So then I told my wife yesterday, we're not going to send pictures of you. We're just going to do the whole process and see if they can verify a picture and go from there. So we ended up finding a guy from Houston. I don't know, can we say that? In Houston. We're in Texas. But anyway, over in Houston. And it was a bust, was it? I would say it was a bust, right?

Speaker 11:
[39:20] It was a partially. So we get to a hotel and then he says, I'm going to have someone come over and I said, what?

Speaker 8:
[39:27] Oh my God, you don't even know that this is set up?

Speaker 10:
[39:30] No.

Speaker 11:
[39:31] Like I said, I was still calling his bluff. And I was like, seriously?

Speaker 8:
[39:37] He's kind of also calling your bluff. No, no.

Speaker 10:
[39:40] I kind of.

Speaker 8:
[39:41] Yeah. Come on. You're both calling each other's bluffs. Oh my God.

Speaker 11:
[39:45] He lays out this game of kicking. He lays out this sexy lingerie on the bed and he's like, all right, go shower and get dressed. And I was like, OK, he's kidding. Like, no one's going to show up. You know, this whole time I'm like kind of still don't believe him. No, no, because I thought surely the guy's not going to show up and surely he's not going to let someone touch me. Right? No, the guy shows up and I'm nervous. You know, I'm so nervous. And the whole time I'm still looking at my husband like, oh my gosh, you're going to let him touch me.

Speaker 10:
[40:14] She looked terrified.

Speaker 11:
[40:16] Like you're going to let someone touch me when you, you know, the way, like I said, the way he was years ago. Right. And he's like, yeah, go ahead. And I was like, oh my gosh, well, what do I do? You know, I act new to it. Like, like if I've never had sex basically. And so then he, he, you know, usually he just, you know, well, how we do it is he, my husband will come up to me and just kiss me. And, you know, kind of get me to calm down a little bit. So that's what we did the first time. And, and so just to calm nerves down. Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[40:47] And then let me ask you this, James, before you explain what goes down during this whole time with this guy, how are you feeling though? Because listen, you could go over it in your head a million times. Like, do you have any part of you that's nervous? Because you don't really know how you're going to react until you're in this situation. Or had you thought about it so much that you weren't nervous anymore? But did you have any kind of like worry?

Speaker 10:
[41:09] I was excited, but yes, I was nervous.

Speaker 8:
[41:12] Right.

Speaker 10:
[41:12] In the first place, you got a stranger coming over to a hotel or Airbnb.

Speaker 8:
[41:16] Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[41:17] And you don't know if he's going to kill you. You don't know if it's going to be that situation. It's either going to be real bad or real fun. And luckily, you know, the guy showed up. He was a decent looking guy. And it's funny because I guess I had only seen my cock ever. You know what I mean?

Speaker 8:
[41:40] In real life. Right.

Speaker 10:
[41:41] Right. Exactly. I've never looked anywhere else. And then so I thought, okay, well, I'm surely they've got big guys. Cool. But yeah, I don't think I was ready for what I saw. When he dropped his pants, I was like, holy shit. This guy's this guy's fucking huge.

Speaker 8:
[41:57] Oh my God. Really?

Speaker 10:
[41:59] Yeah. Well, I'm going to say, yeah, he was. He was like about eight, eight and a half, nine inches, something like that. So yeah. But anyway, so he drops his pants or he starts making out with my wife. Then he does his pants. My wife. This is something that I was very surprised. My wife just instantly just dropped her knees and started sucking his cock. It was hot. It was hot.

Speaker 11:
[42:22] It was scripted a little bit. He said, I want you to do this. And I said, okay. So once we were all in, well, then I went ahead and I mean, I did take something to kind of calm my nerves before, before he arrived, you know? So, so I was kind of relaxed. And so I mean, it didn't last long.

Speaker 10:
[42:43] Yeah. So the guy was like a two pump. Yeah, that's that. Yeah, that was a sad thing is as soon as she bent over and he was fucking her doggy like, yeah, I'm going to say it was like two or three pumps and then he came. He was done. And then after that, I think he got nervous because he was kind of a nerdy guy. And yeah, and then he just got super in his head, I guess, about coming because we were like, we're like, that's it, you know? And he just couldn't get hard anymore. But, and I remember as well, I couldn't get hard either. Like, I was like, maybe soft, like halfway. And, but I remember I was super turned on of the whole scenario. But for some reason, I just couldn't get hard. And that went away right now.

Speaker 8:
[43:35] Now, you're fine. But that first time you had stage fright.

Speaker 10:
[43:38] First time.

Speaker 11:
[43:38] Yeah, it was just, it was a lot of emotions, you know, during that first time, you know. So I feel like it was good for us to just kind of try it out since it was just like two, three pumps and then he was done. And then we were like, okay, get out, you know?

Speaker 8:
[43:52] Yeah.

Speaker 11:
[43:52] And then we had sex.

Speaker 10:
[43:54] Yeah, it was good because I don't know if I would have been ready for her to just get pounded for hours. And then, you know, being the first time, that would be kind of weird. So yeah, it was like baby steps in, I guess, kind of deal.

Speaker 8:
[44:07] How did you feel afterwards, by the way, James? Like, did you realize, OK, wasn't jealous at all? I was totally fine.

Speaker 10:
[44:14] Yeah, I was totally good with it. Yeah, I wanted more. I was like, yeah, we need to we need to do this again.

Speaker 8:
[44:20] Like, and was that guy a black guy?

Speaker 10:
[44:23] Yes, they've all been black guys. OK, so I've got this weird thing and I'm not I'm not racist whatsoever.

Speaker 8:
[44:30] But so a lot of we had a lot when you follow that with a but what the fuck does that mean? No, no, no, no, no, no. Follow with a but is like, what the fuck?

Speaker 10:
[44:39] No. Well, the thing is, the thing is, is we had we had a lot of Hispanics and a lot of white people and then a lot of black people. All message, right? It doesn't matter if you post on BBC, everybody just starts hitting you up. And so I noticed that a lot of the interactions with the Hispanic guys and the white guys, they were super aggressive and they were like they're going to be the best cock that she's ever had. You know, just really, really cocky. Yeah. And that's one thing that I did not. Exactly. It is especially for her. But for me, it's like I already I'm already like, I want to say a macho guy, but I don't want to be like already you're fucking my wife. I don't want to be the sissy in the room. You know, I'm not a, of course.

Speaker 8:
[45:31] No, no, I get it. And them saying that makes them you feel like you're kind of like, I'm already doing that to my wife. You don't need to come in and do that. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 10:
[45:40] Yeah, exactly. Like you're just there to give her a good time. Yeah, you're not going to be the greatest thing in the world. Like, it's OK.

Speaker 8:
[45:46] Yeah, they have no fucking game. That's that's wrong to go in that way.

Speaker 10:
[45:51] It is. It is. It's super. Yeah. And for me, I'm like, I'm at the point where, yeah, that's great. If you could do that, but don't say it.

Speaker 8:
[46:00] Imagine you're having a threesome with a girl and the girl says to your wife, Oh my God, don't worry, I'm going to go in and be the hottest bitch your husband has ever had. You think about it, the girl would feel.

Speaker 11:
[46:10] I would be like, no, man.

Speaker 8:
[46:11] Yeah, of course. It's like, it's just not cool, right? At all.

Speaker 10:
[46:15] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[46:15] Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[46:16] And so I noticed that. And the black guys, for the most part, you know, give it, there was a few sprinkled in there that had the same attitude. But for the most part, they were super chill. Yeah, very respectful. And I'm like, hey, this, this is what it is right here. These these these guys are awesome. Yeah. So we're going to go this route. And then I had heard of the whole QOS thing and it was exciting. I loved, you know, because you've talked about it as well. It's like the the whole, you know, the black cock and the white pussy, you know, it's just it goes together for some reason. It just looks hot.

Speaker 8:
[46:53] Right. It's it's the it's visually very stimulating, correct? Plus, you actually like the personality more. Right. Like they were they were just cooler.

Speaker 10:
[47:01] Super chill, guys. They're they don't look like they're trying to take your wife away. And also, I've I've listened. Yeah. But so I've I've listened to a lot of your episodes and I've heard I heard a white bull one time. He was kind of bragging about taking his the the guy's wife, I guess. He was a cuck. I don't know what it was, but yeah, he was kind of like bragging about taking the guy's wife. And that's the kind of energy that I'm talking about. I'm like, no, like if he was a real bull, a real bull doesn't do that.

Speaker 8:
[47:38] Right. But I got to say, though, but if in that story, the white husband was a cuck, that's what the extreme cuck does want. OK, that's what that cuck wants. You're not a cuck. You're a stag. Right. So you're not looking for that.

Speaker 10:
[47:54] Right. Right. Yeah, I guess so. But, you know, and don't get me wrong. Also, the gangbang guys, you had a group on, he was the gangbang guy.

Speaker 8:
[48:04] Oh, the one guy that runs all of them. Oh, my God.

Speaker 10:
[48:07] I guess he sets up gangbangs, like, oh, group of black guys.

Speaker 8:
[48:10] Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[48:11] I think he was an older gentleman.

Speaker 8:
[48:13] Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[48:13] But I felt like he could have done a better job. He seemed way too excited. I'm like, dude, just calm down.

Speaker 8:
[48:19] He was all over the place. Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[48:22] He was way too excited to see a wife naked. It's like, dude, you've been there. It's okay. Yeah. But anyway, for the most part, that's why I love what we do.

Speaker 8:
[48:34] Well, tell me about your second and third experience. When did it start getting good?

Speaker 10:
[48:39] Well, immediately, the second guy, the second guy she met up with was great, like this guy.

Speaker 11:
[48:46] Just a few months later, right?

Speaker 10:
[48:48] It was a couple of months later. Because we live out in the out of nowhere. And so we're like several hours from Dallas. So the guy we met up with next was over in Dallas. And yeah, super cool guy, chill, and huge cock. And he knew. So a lot of things also, these guys, they think because she hasn't had bad experiences, you know, where it just looks like a mess. It just looks like two people clashing bodies. Yeah. And so the second guy, he was just in motion with her. He was doing exactly what he needed to do. Yeah. And like you said, I did get a little bit. So we had restrictions. We, I did have certain rules. It wasn't just everything goes. Right. And so I cut it off. I cut it off too soon because I could tell that she was getting really turned on. And it almost seemed like she was about to come. And I was like, okay, we're done. It was an asshole. It was an asshole move. So that was all on me is. So we had a rule that she couldn't come. Also, not really any like eye contact while she was stuck in their cock, like no eye contact. It was rules that are out the window now.

Speaker 8:
[50:10] The eye contact one I've heard before. It's not as out there. Of course, the kissing one is always the first to come in and first to go. But I've heard of the eye contact thing before. That's out the window too?

Speaker 10:
[50:22] Yeah. Oh, for sure. It's way hotter if she gives it to my contact now. Because we take video of all these meetups and that's way hotter. At the time, it was still my ego that had these restrictions. Yeah. Like I said, now they're out the window. I think there was no kissing as well, right, in the beginning?

Speaker 11:
[50:45] I think so.

Speaker 10:
[50:46] Yeah. And so, yeah, that's all gone.

Speaker 11:
[50:48] I mean, there was a lot of rules.

Speaker 10:
[50:50] They had a lot of rules. Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[50:51] What were some of the other ones? Do you remember, Jess?

Speaker 10:
[50:54] Well, listen, there's a lot of rules for the guys because so some of these guys would show up like in Crocs, you know, just not put together at all. Maybe not freshly out of the shower. My biggest is the white dirty socks. If you're going to have white socks, please let it be a clean pair of socks. I just don't understand a brand new pair of white socks. You can't, you know, so that would be a thing.

Speaker 8:
[51:29] My dream in life is to have a new pair of socks every single day and never have to rewear a pair of socks. I'm so into clean socks. That's how much I, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 10:
[51:38] Exactly.

Speaker 8:
[51:38] Yeah, I got it. And white socks get dirty fast, but it's fucking gross. Sorry. I agree with you.

Speaker 10:
[51:44] Yeah. So, you know, black socks or, you know, take your socks off.

Speaker 8:
[51:48] Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[51:49] So, yeah, that was my biggest thing. And then just be clean. My wife has a really good sense of smell, so they would have to be like freshly showered, good breath, all that, you know, because all that, you know, it kills the vibe.

Speaker 11:
[52:03] Well, and also like I take the time to get ready for them. My husband usually picks out my outfits, any outfit that he wants to see me in. And so I get dressed up, I do my makeup, my hair, my nails, he spray tans me. I mean, like I would go all out, you know, like I get ready for them.

Speaker 8:
[52:20] Right. So you want the same.

Speaker 11:
[52:22] Yes. We expect for them to look like they're going at least on a casual date, you know, like presentable, be clean, smell good, you know, just the basic, you know, just hygiene, just be clean, you know.

Speaker 8:
[52:34] Yeah, not too much to ask. I mean, do most guys show up? But let me ask you this, out of all the guys that you've been with, would you say the majority shows up like how you want them to?

Speaker 10:
[52:45] I think.

Speaker 8:
[52:47] No, no.

Speaker 10:
[52:50] No. Only her, her, her now regular bulls. Yeah, they're great. The guys show up.

Speaker 8:
[52:56] That's why they're regulars.

Speaker 10:
[52:58] Yeah. Yes, for sure.

Speaker 8:
[53:00] Are you, let me ask you this about like when you're having the threesomes, are you typically involved, James, or are you watching, doing both, are you videotaping? Like, what's your participation?

Speaker 10:
[53:11] So it started off, you know, I set up the cameras and it started off with me being a little bit involved. And, and then I kind of just that way she warms up, you know, and then I back off and just let them do their thing. And because I started noticing that I don't like to see myself on camera. Like, I jerk off to these vids later. So, so I don't want myself in the video. That's just weird me out. So, so I like to for it to just be her and them. Eventually, I want her to be with two guys, but we have yet to do that.

Speaker 8:
[53:47] Right. But that is on your bucket list.

Speaker 10:
[53:49] Oh, for sure. Right.

Speaker 8:
[53:51] So, did you start then posting this stuff on your Olyfans and or do you keep this more stuff just for yourself?

Speaker 10:
[54:00] Well, you know, for Olyfans, you got to get consent. Yes. So it's only for the guys that have given consent. Yeah. And one of our bulls gave consent. So all his stuff is out there on her Olyfans.

Speaker 8:
[54:13] Right.

Speaker 10:
[54:14] And and yeah, just them and the guys that don't, we still go ahead and do it. And, you know, I just keep the videos for myself. You know, they're fine with it. You know, as long as I don't put it out there.

Speaker 8:
[54:25] Hey, Jess, let me ask you a couple of questions because, you know, listen, this was something that he got like hardcore into and everything. And you kind of like, it sounds like maybe in the beginning, you're like want to please your husband. You're jumping on board. Like, is this something that you're very into now? Did you realize you were very turned on by it? Like, do you enjoy like the whole hotwifing thing now? You know, how did your feelings sort of progress from like the first time you did it to now?

Speaker 11:
[54:52] So now, I think I'm just more, as long as I see him getting turned on, it turns me on. If he's turned on, I'm turned on. And then I do better. My performance is a lot better. I do enjoy it. I do enjoy it at the time. But then once we leave, it's like, it never happened.

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Speaker 11:
[55:39] You know?

Speaker 8:
[55:39] Oh, wait a second.

Speaker 11:
[55:41] That never happened.

Speaker 8:
[55:42] Wait, this is kind of interesting. So you don't have like the whole reclaiming thing? You haven't been able to tap into that or you do?

Speaker 11:
[55:50] No, we do.

Speaker 8:
[55:51] Okay. So when you say it's never happened, it's like, it just becomes back about you and your husband and you don't even think about that guy. That's what you mean?

Speaker 11:
[55:57] Yes. Yes. I don't think about it. I don't until we talked about it again. Then I'm like, oh yeah, I did do that. Oh yeah, it was fun. You know, so he'll tell me, well, it looked like you were enjoying it. I'm like, show me. And I'm like, yes, I was enjoying it. You know, it kind of, you know, kind of like it never happened.

Speaker 8:
[56:13] But let me ask you this, did you ever have bad feelings about it? Like, did you ever feel like not right about it in the beginning at all ever?

Speaker 11:
[56:20] At the beginning, yes. At the beginning, yes.

Speaker 8:
[56:23] I think that's important to talk about. That's, you know, that's real life.

Speaker 11:
[56:26] I think our first time on our drive back, we were both kind of quiet. We were both quiet. And then he started asking questions and talking. And I mean, it happened so fast, right? It was kind of a blink of an eye and then the guy was gone. Yeah. So there wasn't a whole lot to talk about, but we were talking kind of about our emotions. And I think he just still kind of needed to process the whole thing and me too. And so halfway's home, then we started talking about it and that was it. You know, we just had a conversation about how we felt at the moment and, and if it was okay. And then he said, I still want to do it again. And I said, are you sure? And he said, yeah. I said, even though this wasn't as great. And he's like, yeah. So, you know, second time came around and it was better, a little better. But like he said, he stopped it. And I thought, why would he stop it if that's what we were trying to do? Of course, I wasn't going to come.

Speaker 8:
[57:14] Yeah. Do you never come?

Speaker 11:
[57:17] No, see, so before my husband, I never came until my husband.

Speaker 8:
[57:23] And what is he, why with him, do you feel like it's because you felt so intimate with him or because his dick is shaped a different way or he just knows what to do? Like why him and nobody else?

Speaker 11:
[57:32] Like all of it together, like everything combined, he just knows how to please me. And so he was the only person that's ever made me come.

Speaker 8:
[57:38] That's why you married him.

Speaker 11:
[57:40] Yes, so it was kind of like, you know, so when we started playing, that was one of the rules, like you can't come, now it's out the window.

Speaker 8:
[57:49] Oh, that's the dumbest rule I've ever heard. Wait a second, who made up that rule?

Speaker 10:
[57:54] Well, I did, honestly.

Speaker 8:
[57:56] Oh my god, James, you are so, that is so fucking selfish of you.

Speaker 11:
[58:01] It was his fantasy, so we went by his rules. I basically just showed up.

Speaker 8:
[58:09] Wait, sorry, Jess, listen, okay, I need to stick out for you. If you were my friend, I'd be like coming over to your house with you to help you deal with this, okay? Because when you say it's his fantasy, so it's his rules, no, it's his fantasy, which means he's getting what he wants. So that means you have even more of the option to say, I get to fucking come too, so I get something out of this. That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 11:
[58:31] Well, the thing is, the thing is that it takes a lot for me to come. Like he's the one that knows what to do.

Speaker 8:
[58:36] I know, but I'm sorry, I don't care about that. I care about the fact, James, you are too fucking funny. Even you know it's ridiculous. The fact that you told her you were not allowed to come is out of control.

Speaker 11:
[58:47] Yes, because he was the only one that had ever made me come.

Speaker 8:
[58:50] He knows.

Speaker 11:
[58:51] He wanted to keep it. Yes, he knows now. He wanted to keep it that way. Like him being the only one to ever make me come.

Speaker 10:
[58:58] It was just the macho, the part in me that talks to Jenny.

Speaker 8:
[59:00] That was the leftover.

Speaker 10:
[59:02] It's all gone.

Speaker 11:
[59:03] It honestly was gone like within not even six months. He was like, no, I want you to come.

Speaker 8:
[59:07] Okay, finally. Well, the thing is, I'm sorry, I'm just always perplexed. This is why like you're married to him and I'm not. Like I just can't believe how nice you are, Jess. Like I would be like, go fuck yourself. Like I can't believe girls are so much nicer than me. This is why I never got married because I could never be like you, Jess. You're so, I can't believe you signed up for that for six months.

Speaker 10:
[59:31] Kathy, that's southern women. That's the way. Oh, really? Okay.

Speaker 8:
[59:35] Listen up, guys. This is where you get the nice girls.

Speaker 11:
[59:39] For me, it was just more like, okay, we're doing this for you. I'm cool with that. You know what I mean? Like you're already allowing someone else to touch me.

Speaker 8:
[59:46] Yeah, no, I know. You're so nice. That was nice of you.

Speaker 11:
[59:50] It wasn't so much that I was like, oh, yes, let's do this. I'm still not the type that is like, okay, yes, let's do this and I'm pushing for it every weekend. Because if it was up to him, we do it every weekend. We can't because we live so far.

Speaker 10:
[60:03] Yeah.

Speaker 11:
[60:04] We do it maybe like three or four times a year, if that, when we get them lined out. But it's not as often as he would like. And for me, I'm just like, it's whatever.

Speaker 10:
[60:14] It's hard to corral guys, single guys.

Speaker 8:
[60:17] Of course, yeah. Well, she does have her regulars. How many regulars do you have?

Speaker 10:
[60:22] She's got two regular bulls in Dallas.

Speaker 8:
[60:24] Okay. And let me ask you this, Jess, like because you go for like these guys that are kind of bigger than your husband, like are you becoming a little bit of a size queen? Do you enjoy the bigger dicks? Do you come from them now?

Speaker 11:
[60:40] No, I don't think I'm a size queen at all.

Speaker 8:
[60:43] Okay.

Speaker 11:
[60:43] I do enjoy it at the moment, but even though my husband says he's not, he's just a little bit above average, I feel his is perfect for me.

Speaker 8:
[60:53] Right.

Speaker 15:
[60:53] You're completely perfect.

Speaker 8:
[60:54] Yeah.

Speaker 11:
[60:55] Yeah. And especially he knows exactly what to do. So I don't feel like I'm missing anything at all.

Speaker 8:
[61:00] Right. I get it.

Speaker 11:
[61:02] So these guys just make it fun for the moment. He records it, then we watch it together or he watches it, whichever. And that's it. It's just for fun. It's just added fun.

Speaker 10:
[61:12] Totally. The cherry on top.

Speaker 11:
[61:13] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[61:13] But do you have orgasms with any of them?

Speaker 10:
[61:16] Yes.

Speaker 11:
[61:17] I do. It's not often. It's not all the time.

Speaker 8:
[61:19] That's kind of big for you considering your husband was the only one that ever could, right?

Speaker 11:
[61:24] Yes.

Speaker 10:
[61:25] And it's funny because now I'm the one that gets upset if she doesn't come.

Speaker 11:
[61:28] Yeah. Then I want to come.

Speaker 10:
[61:29] Really, really, you can come.

Speaker 8:
[61:32] That's why she's having the orgasms. It's all that she's doing it for you, James. She's so nice.

Speaker 11:
[61:38] If it was up to me and to him, I'd come every time, but it doesn't always work out that way. Sometimes the guys just can't stay hard or I don't know.

Speaker 8:
[61:47] Yeah, that's more common than it's not.

Speaker 10:
[61:50] Yeah. I try to tell her it's not her fault. To all the women out there, it is not your fault.

Speaker 8:
[61:54] Oh my God. I always say that. Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[61:56] Yes. Us men, I don't think anybody realizes, but this slightest little thing, it could be something that we're thinking about earlier in the day. Something could just completely kill it. Totally. Once it's killed, then all you do is focus on the fact that you can't get hard and then it's gone. It's really hard to get it back.

Speaker 8:
[62:14] It becomes a mental thing. Yeah.

Speaker 10:
[62:16] I do want to mention this. Once again, not, not, what is it? I don't recommend it for...

Speaker 8:
[62:23] Oh no, here we go.

Speaker 10:
[62:25] I don't know if you've, we got really deep into peptides. Well, there's a peptide. It's called PT-141. Men who are after bulls, I highly recommend this stuff. Yeah, don't, but do.

Speaker 11:
[62:43] We actually don't recommend it because we're not doctors or anything like that.

Speaker 8:
[62:46] Yeah, but you take it. You're allowed to talk about taking it.

Speaker 11:
[62:48] Yeah, okay. Just make it sure.

Speaker 10:
[62:51] So this stuff, it makes you get, so it works from the brain down. It's not like Viagra, all that stuff. All that stuff is great, but this works from the brain and then works its way down. It makes you want that. But at the same time, without even thinking about it. So I get hard on with that just randomly.

Speaker 8:
[63:13] Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 10:
[63:15] I'm talking about the hard on like when I was 16, 17.

Speaker 8:
[63:18] That's good to know. I want to get a doctor on talking about peptides soon. Because I want to learn about them for my show. Yeah.

Speaker 11:
[63:25] It's like super hard.

Speaker 10:
[63:27] Yeah, we do other peptides and they're great. I don't understand why it's such a thing.

Speaker 8:
[63:31] No, it's actually a new thing. I think people are becoming better educated about it. But they're becoming more mainstream and more doctors are into it. It's just a matter of educating people and learning about it. Because I feel like there's a lot of stuff on the market. They say people are selling without scripts and everything. But I want someone coming on soon to talk about them. Because I think it's interesting and people that do take them talk very highly of them.

Speaker 11:
[63:53] Yes. The only bad thing about it, it does have side effects. It does make you nauseous and it gives you a headache and things like that. But there's different places that you can inject it. I feel like the last time we did one, because he will give it to me also, or I've done it three times, I think. The first time it was good.

Speaker 10:
[64:11] It is for men and women.

Speaker 11:
[64:12] The first time it was good, I did feel nauseous, feel a little bit sick for a few minutes, and then I was on him for two days. I could not get off of him. Because it only lasts two or three, two days, I think.

Speaker 10:
[64:25] For me, it lasts three days.

Speaker 11:
[64:26] Then the second time, it did make me sick and it ruined the whole night, so we didn't get to do anything because I felt so sick to my stomach. The third time, we injected in the thigh and then went to sleep and I woke up fine and I wouldn't get off of him for two days again.

Speaker 10:
[64:43] The thing about it is I recommend to do it right before bed. That way, the nausea and all that, you sleep right through it.

Speaker 8:
[64:48] Yeah, that's why I take my supplements at night so I don't feel anything. I do have to say like Bluechew now has Bluechew Gold and it's kind of like, you know, maybe this is why they're doing it because there's all these things out now where the Bluechew Gold has all the ingredients to make you hard, like the Viagra and the Cialis, all that kind of stuff like, you know, stuff like that. But they are now putting in oxytocin and something out. Like I forget what the two other ingredients are in it to change your brain, right? It's to make you get around. Yeah, so that now you're getting the Bluechew. So you're getting like the physical hard sensation you're supposed to get. But it's now you're getting also the mental thing that you're talking about, which is great. It gets you like in the mood as well in your brain, not just in your body.

Speaker 10:
[65:29] Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 8:
[65:30] Yeah, there you go. So let me ask you guys this. OK, like at the end of the day, how long have you been like hot wiping for now at this point?

Speaker 10:
[65:38] It's only been like three years.

Speaker 8:
[65:40] Yes, only I think we're going to say three months. That would be only three months. OK, that's not that short of a time. I talked a lot of newbies. So for me, three years is, you know, a long time. How do you feel like it has changed your relationship? You know, you know, and how has it made you guys feel about each other? First, you answered, James, and then you answer, Jess, both of you answer the question.

Speaker 10:
[66:05] So yeah, it's, I think it's amazing. I don't, I don't know if it's just me, right? It might be other other guys, too. But something about her being able to go out, be naughty, then come back to me and only me and only want me, there's like a like a little flex for me. It's, it's like, I don't, I'm not intimidated now. I don't feel like I could just lose her from the drop of the hat, you know?

Speaker 8:
[66:34] You feel more confident is what you're saying than less.

Speaker 10:
[66:38] Way more confident. And I love the confidence, you know, it's not, you know, because guys, you know how guys are, you know, they're always afraid of the guy with the big dick that's going to come and steal your wife away. And I don't have that. Like I know that she can have that and then she can come back to me. And yeah, and she's awesome. Our sex life is great. We have amazing sex.

Speaker 8:
[67:02] And now, Jess, do you answer the question?

Speaker 11:
[67:05] I mean, honestly, what it's done to us is it's made our communication a lot better, our relationship a lot stronger. I mean, we talk about everything now. Everything is out in the open. Our sex life is even better, I think. I mean, it was great before. It was great, but like our orgasms now are just like beyond amazing, you know, because I feel like our connection, like I said, our communication has a lot to do with this. So it makes our relationship stronger. And it makes us just want each other, desire each other a lot more. And then our trust, I feel like we do trust each other a lot more. I don't leave. I don't go and have, you know, meet up with them by myself. He's always there. And that's the biggest thing to me. Like I don't feel like I would ever want to be away from him because I feel like I did for him. So I need him to be there watching. I want him to be there watching. That's what turns me on.

Speaker 8:
[67:54] Right.

Speaker 11:
[67:54] And I feel like that's what makes it sexier and just hotter, you know. So, but I feel like our relationship has gotten way stronger for sure.

Speaker 8:
[68:03] Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 11:
[68:04] It's, yeah.

Speaker 8:
[68:06] And do you, the last question, Jess, is because he did say that he wants to see you with two guys, right? Are you planning to do that?

Speaker 11:
[68:15] Well, we kind of tried, but it doesn't usually work out. Like one always has something going on, and we're trying to get both of my bulls from Dallas, the two that, my regulars, because I feel like they would be a good fit with me, you know. Like both of them have kind of like the same energy. They're both very laid back. They both kind of let me take charge, and I like to be the one taking charge. And I like for them to do, for them to take control here and there, but I like to be in control as well. And so I love that they both let me just do whatever I want to do. If I want to bounce around on them, they let me do it. I mean, so I feel like both of them are a really good fit together for me, you know.

Speaker 8:
[68:59] Right. So that's who you would do it with. So you could do it with them.

Speaker 11:
[69:02] Yes, because we had been looking for someone, and every time we have a meetup, I'm like, no, he wouldn't be good for a meetup with someone else. Like, we're not, you know, like he said, we're not always in rhythm, you know, I'm not always in rhythm with them because I like to take control. And a lot of these guys want to be the ones to take control and bend me up like a pretzel and, you know, all sorts of things. And I like things more sensual. And so the two bulls, my regular ones are the ones that I feel like, yeah, they would be a better match.

Speaker 8:
[69:32] Right.

Speaker 11:
[69:32] But I mean, we have something coming up in a couple of weeks and they're both available. So I'm hoping that we somehow get them both the same day and maybe make it happen. So we'll see.

Speaker 8:
[69:43] Oh, my goodness. Okay. So listen now, why don't you give a shout out to your Instagram and your OnlyFans and all that kind of stuff and make sure to send me pics for my Patreon and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 11:
[69:52] Okay. So let me see. We had to write it down. So what do we get? My OF, do you want me to give that?

Speaker 10:
[70:02] Yeah.

Speaker 11:
[70:03] It's at Curvylatina007.

Speaker 8:
[70:07] Curvylatina007. Okay.

Speaker 11:
[70:10] Yes. And then I have a Reddit account, which is Curvylatina underscore 007.

Speaker 8:
[70:15] Okay. That's easy to remember. Okay. And then do you have the Instagram still or no?

Speaker 10:
[70:20] No, we don't. We don't focus on Instagram.

Speaker 11:
[70:23] Look, they blocked us several times already. Like, it was building up really good and then somebody reports it and then that's it. And I mean, I don't even show much on there.

Speaker 10:
[70:32] I still got blocked too. I have no idea. I don't know what happens if somebody just reports it for no reason.

Speaker 8:
[70:37] I know because you see straight up porn on there all the time. It's rampant. It doesn't make sense. But you know what you learn really early on because I got deleted on YouTube and I have 57,000 followers in there. You just learn that don't put your time in places where you're not really safe and put your time into the places where you are. You know what I mean? There's no reason to bother there because you get thrown off.

Speaker 11:
[70:59] Yeah. We feel like maybe it could be some of the people that we turned down because there's so many that message.

Speaker 10:
[71:05] Guys, guys, guys, I'm not taking that.

Speaker 8:
[71:08] No, I know. I used to fight with people in the comments on YouTube. Those are probably the ones that got me thrown off too. But you know, whatever. You can't be on platforms like that if they allow people to take you down with that easy. It's not worth it for you. So listen, I will put your names and a link in the description and send me pics though. For my Patreon, I always say like R-rated pics, like if you have lingerie shots or something where nothing private is really showing, like no nips or anything. But for my Discord, when you hang up, you'll get a free link. Not free, my Discord, you don't get charged, but you'll get a private link to my Discord. There, there's a content creator section, so you could go in there and promote stuff for your OnlyFans, put your OnlyFans link in your bio, and then you can post on the guest channel when your episode airs for sure. So you'll get that link when we hang up, and then send me pics ASAP so I have it for when your episode airs for Patreon. Those pics should be R-rated. The Discord, you could do X-rated, anything goes over there. But Patreon is R-rated. But send me that stuff sooner than later, and I'll send you a free link to see the comments on your Patreon episode for like one month. When your episode airs, I'll email you, okay?

Speaker 11:
[72:17] Okay, perfect.

Speaker 8:
[72:19] Thank you guys. You made me laugh, James. Thanks so much for calling in.

Speaker 10:
[72:22] We love you, by the way.

Speaker 8:
[72:23] Oh, I love that.

Speaker 11:
[72:24] We love you so.

Speaker 8:
[72:25] I love couples that listen together. You're the best.

Speaker 11:
[72:27] Thank you guys.

Speaker 8:
[72:28] Yeah, it's awesome. Now, thanks for calling in and telling your story.

Speaker 10:
[72:32] Yes, ma'am. Thank you.

Speaker 8:
[72:33] Bye, you guys. Bye. Bye.

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[73:35] Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out till August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show, like there's a hot wife story, there's a cuck queen story, there's a cuck story, there's a gangbang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories, and they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person, and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse Letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? These are true stories, 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in e-back format, paperback format. And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th. But you could preorder it now. And if you buy my book in any format or preorder it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me, okay? I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you could win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total Strictly Anonymous community and you will love it. You'll be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private. Like I said, all you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audio book, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at StrictlyAnonymousPodcasts at gmail.com. That's StrictlyAnonymousPodcasts at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.

Speaker 7:
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Speaker 8:
[76:40] Okay, I just want to tell you, before you go, that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not gonna be out till August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show, like there's a hot wife story, there's a cuck queen story, there's a cuck story, there's a gang bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories, and they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person, and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book, I think like penthouse letters, it's more direct, it's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories, 17 of them, they're really short chapters, easy read, you could read, you know, one or two and then skip around, you could read the whole book. It's available in e-back format, paperback format, and finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th. But you could preorder it now. And if you buy my book in any format or preorder it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you'd get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me, okay? I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you could win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total Strictly Anonymous community, and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you gotta do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audio book, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at strictlyanonymouspodcasts.gmail.com. That's strictlyanonymouspodcasts.gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.

Speaker 7:
[79:01] This is the Strictly Anonymous Podcast.