title 04-20-26 Part One - Omar's "Not" Worth

description In part one of Red Eye Radio with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley, Gary flies solo this morning as Eric takes some personal time off.

We begin by reports that Ilhan Omar says she isn’t a multimillionaire by blaming an accounting error. President Trump has suggested the Minnesota congresswoman profited from a massive welfare fraud scandal still being investigated. Congresswoman Omar and her husband Tim Mynett have a net worth between $6 million to $30 million according to their 2025 disclosure. However disclosures from the end of 2023 showed the pair had ownership stakes that only add to the value of just above $51,000.

Also the latest on the war with Iran with audio from CBS' 60 Minutes on Iran's nuclear capabilities, hundreds of commercial tankers are stranded on both sides of the Strait of Hormuz after Iran shut the critical chokepoint on April 18, halting traffic and leaving crews trapped amid reports of gunfire and "traumatic experiences" on board. Also the "ups and downs" of negotiating with Iran, President Trump wants uranium enriched nuclear dust by sending in excavators and it's 4/20 meaning pot smokers will celebrate today along with Earth Day this Wednesday.

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pubDate Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:55:00 GMT

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[00:37] And now, it's Red Eye Radio. Gary McNamara and Eric Harley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day. Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show. From the Relief Factor Studios, this is Red Eye Radio.

Speaker 6:
[00:56] All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. I'm Gary McNamara. Eric has the morning off, so it's you and me. Oh, the weekend? The weekend was really interesting. I had the Independent Bob Golf Tournament over the weekend. I didn't play golf, though. I went to the party Friday night, went to the luncheon on Saturday, and it was 48 degrees, 30 mile-an-hour winds. It was still raining, and it was cart path only, which means you can't drive your cart up to the ball. Now, I was really sick last week. And I'm feeling great now. I mean, it's just, it's completely and totally gone, but it wasn't on Thursday, Friday, even into Saturday. And that's just the point of just sleeping. And I did see that there's this, so many people have told me, and I actually saw it in the news, this bug apparently is all around, the thing that I had. It was bad. But, I mean, I was over it by middle of last week, but it just, I was tired all the time. So ended up not playing golf, went home on Saturday afternoon, did a couple of errands around the house. It got to be early evening, and I stepped out into my backyard, and when I stepped out into my backyard, onto the deck, I turned to open the door, and I had locked myself out. Never happened before. I've never done that in my life, locked myself out. I won't go into the details of how. I'm not gonna get into the specifics of my locks, but there I am. And what I realized is, unless you're gonna break a window, my house is very hard to break into. Couldn't do it in the backyard. I was trying to, you know, looking at every window, you know, praying. Did I leave a latch open on one of the windows? No. And so I tried to climb over, I took a chair so I could get up, I tried to climb over the wood fence because I was thinking to myself, I need to get to the front yard. I didn't have my phone or anything. Need to get to the front yard. Maybe I left the front door open. Maybe, just maybe I left it open. Because I was going in and out of both doors doing things. Couldn't get over it. I mean, I just couldn't get over it. So I look at the back fence and behind me is not a backyard, behind me is basically a big pond, huge pond. This big metal fence. I was able to scale and get over that, but as I, you should have, I wish somebody was headed on film because you would have thought that as I flipped over the top, I was going to die. Twisted my ankle a little bit, then had to walk all the way around the block and come back the other way in order to get to my front door. And the front door was also locked. Luckily, I was able to get a neighbor to let me use their smartphone. Didn't take long for the locksmith to come out and was in the house in about 20 minutes. I'll tell you this, so they couldn't pick, I've got great locks on my door. I don't know why. What do they steal these days? They steal jewelry and cash, right? Come on in my front door and get my Walmart furniture from 20 years ago. Okay, it may not be Walmart. But I won't tell you how they got in. I won't give that secret away. But got in the house and everything was great. But I'm telling you, the helpless feeling when you realize, oh no, oh no, oh no. And I got new locks about a year ago. I was gonna give one to my neighbor, you know, a key to my neighbor, one to a couple of friends and just never did. It's like, oh man, no. The helplessness. I think it was like 8.30 or something at night when I realized I locked myself out. So it was an interesting weekend. It will not happen again. Well, it hadn't happened and locked myself ever out of my house or apartments, whatever I've owned, you know, ever. So that was a first. I know people are going to call and go, leave an extra key in the backyard. Yeah, I think I'll hide it. Oops. Never mind. So here we go. I want to start with this one. This, to me, was the best story of the weekend. Representative Ilhan Omar said she is not a millionaire and blamed a major accounting error. After a Congressional Financial Disclosure listing her assets as high as $30 million drew scrutiny from Republicans and a Congressional watchdog, an amended filing review by the Wall Street Journal shows Omar and her husband's assets were between 18,000 and 95,000, a sharp drop from an earlier disclosure that estimated their holdings between $8 million and $30 million. You ever done that in your head? Figured out what your net, you know, what your basically your net worth is? I've done it in my head. And I know what it is. And I could do it in 30 seconds. But in financial disclosure, there's no way you make a mistake. There's no way that you go from $6 to $30 million to $18,000 and $95,000. And I don't even know how they're, how are they confused between $18,000 and $95,000? It's real easy to do, you know, for your house. You figured out, you know, how much principal you paid off, right? Or how much debt you have left. You figure out what the appraise, reasonable appraisal value is of your house. You take that, you subtract, you know, what you still owe and you got that on the house. You do the same thing with the cars. And then for me, you look and you say, okay, what assets do I have in my house? All the money and jewelry that I, no, I'm kidding, I don't have any money and jewelry in my house. The Rolex watch that I have, no, I told you we went through that last week. You're talking about golf and I went, I have no idea this watch thing with guys. It has to be purely status. I'm not buying a $10,000 watch. But you figure out your assets and the assets of everything in my house, I don't know, 75 bucks. I mean, what's the worth of a 55-inch great HDTV that's five years old, six years old? What do you get in the streets for that? You're not gonna get 200 bucks, right? You can get one for, you get a brand new one for 300. So it's like, you know, but you can very easily figure out your net worth. You go through the accounts that you, you know, you have, you look at your 401Ks, whatever other accounts you have. It's very easy to figure out what your net worth is. But that was the best one. The amended filing reviewed by the Wall Street Journal showed that Omar and her husband's assets were between 18,000 and 95,000, a sharp drop. The amended disclosure confirms what we've said all along. The congresswoman is not a millionaire. Omar spokesperson Jacqueline Rodgers told the Journal, what are you talking about? They told you they were worth it. Omar spokesperson, it's what we told you all along. No, nobody picked it out of the air. You disclosed it. This is our financial worth, between 6 and 30 million. You're the ones that did it. It wasn't a Republican that came along and said, I'm going to figure out your net worth. And what happened was, when it came out between 6 and 30 million, the big question was, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute, how did you earn that money? You're just a congressperson. What are you doing? How are you acquiring your wealth? The revised disclosure came after the Office of Congressional Conduct requested additional information earlier this year. Omar's attorney sent in a letter to the Watchdog that the inaccurate filing was unintentional and stemmed from reliance on accountants. I don't know what the lie is here. Let me put it this way. If your net worth is between 18,000, let's split the difference, okay? Let's split the difference and say it's 60,000. All right, that's your net worth. You don't need accountants to figure that out. Well, I'll tell you, it's just so complicated to figure out what I have here. It's 60,000, you know, if it's 18,000, I don't know whether she owns a home or not, but if it's just, if it's 18,000 and, you know, they have a mortgage or whatever, and a couple of cars that they're paying payments on, and I don't know the financial situation, 18,000 is nothing, as we all know in net worth. And so, yeah, I just, something stinks in that story to begin with. And the biggest thing that stinks is, no, we told you all along she wasn't worth six to 30 million. Nobody accused you of that until you released it from your accountants. I could imagine if I had accountants. I remember we had a guy call the show one time and say, you and Gary, talking to Eric, you and Gary are billionaires. It's like, well, no, I don't know. Let me do the Ilhan. Well, maybe, maybe I am if you do the Ilhan Omar math for accounting.

Speaker 7:
[12:16] Wow, I just love this.

Speaker 6:
[12:20] As quote, as the busiest of people, it is a very common for members and their spouses to rely on learned professionals like accountants to make calculations and determinations that appear in public filings, the attorney wrote according to the journal. While the error is, of course, unfortunate, nothing illegal has occurred. The amended filing shows Omar reported between 102,001 million in income in 2024 from assets she and her husband own, according to the journal. Documentation attached to the attorney's letter showed 213,000 in distributions to her husband from his venture capital management firm and $3,000 from a winery. Wow. Either they were bragging. In a 2025 email between Omar's husband and his accountant, value the venture capital firm at 7.9 million and the winery at 1.5 million, though he owns roughly one third of both businesses, according to documents cited in the journal. Look, anybody can take a look at, even if you own assets, you know and you can figure it out by sitting down with a pen and a paper, what you have into a business, what it's worth and whatever. This is pure, I don't know what it is, but they're lying, they're either lying now or they were lying before. And to sit there and blame it on accountants, geez, just ridiculous. There you go. That was absolutely my favorite story of the day or over the weekend.

Speaker 8:
[14:09] I was like, what?

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[14:11] Because everybody was like, 30 million? Whoa, where's she getting her money from? Where's this wealth from? And then all of a sudden, they reverse it like that. Wow. We are Red Eye Radio.

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[15:38] We are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Harley, he has a morning off. I'm Gary McNamara. I don't. All right, the war and the developments over the weekend. First off, I noticed there were quite a few experts, even people from the Biden administration, that were on talking about Iran's nuclear capability before we went in last year. And then again, before we went in now, and really some interesting commentary over the weekend. This is Amos Hoxstein, Senior Advisor for the Biden administration, who talked about Iran and their nuclear capability. Here we go.

Speaker 10:
[16:20] In July, 2024, Secretary Blinken claimed Iran was one or two weeks away from having enough fissile material breakout capacity to eventually make a weapon if Iran had decided to do so. There were indirect negotiations that the Biden administration did, but it went nowhere. So when President Trump argues that he did, when no other president would, is it just simply that the bill was coming due and it fell on his watch?

Speaker 11:
[16:48] I do think there's a certain element to that. And that's why I was supportive of President Trump joining in in June to take the strikes that we had thought internally in the Biden administration we may have to take if there was a second term. We thought that the spring summer of 2025 was probably, we may have to be there in the same place. And we did war games. We did some practice runs on what it would look like to look into it.

Speaker 6:
[17:14] There you go. So I just wanted to play that for you. So the entire thing that the Democrats are talking now, even when we went in last year and now doing this, everybody knew, everybody knew from Biden, every Democrat knew whatever. So when you hear them, even when we went in last year and did it, and the response from Democrats, we all knew that it was BS. We all did. Then let's go to, this is 60 Minutes yesterday. And again, this was, let me just get it here, Matthew Bunn, former White House nuclear advisor, who now works for the Harvard Kennedy School's Belford Center on 60 Minutes about their nuclear capabilities.

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[18:00] There's no doubt that the combination of the strikes in June of last year and the ongoing war have seriously set back Iran's capabilities. But the remaining capabilities are substantial. You can't bomb away their knowledge.

Speaker 12:
[18:19] UN inspectors believe Iran has close to 1,000 pounds of uranium enriched to 60 percent, nearly ready to be used in a nuclear weapon. 970 pounds of 60 percent highly enriched uranium. What can you do with that?

Speaker 7:
[18:37] So that is enough material for, if you enrich it just a little bit more, for 10 to 11 nuclear bomb.

Speaker 6:
[18:46] And what else? I'm trying to see what else I had. Did I have another audio cut? Yeah, this is from, let me see, retired Vice Admiral Robert Hayward on 60 Minutes.

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[18:59] Would an operation like this be worth risking American lives?

Speaker 13:
[19:03] In my opinion, yes.

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[19:05] Retired Vice Admiral Robert Harward is a former Navy SEAL and Deputy Director of US. Central Command. He led elite special operations in the Middle East and says an operation in Iran could take many weeks and require a large footprint involving all the branches of the military.

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[19:25] It's high risk. You have to occupy territory. You have to confront. You have to force your way in. So all those risks are inherent in that operation, but we can do it.

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[19:54] That's what our military does.

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[22:00] We are Red Eye Radio, he is Eric Harley, he has a morning off, I'm Gary McNamara. I am here, download our Red Eye Radio app today, and you can listen when and where you choose. Just was watching the video of the US Navy opening fire on that Iranian flag cargo ship that ignored warnings to turn around over a six-hour period and how they fired in. Actually, you know, put out the announcement, you vacate your engine room, vacate your engine room, we're going to hit it. And they did from quite a distance. And just fascinating video. But before the bottom of the hour, I played those audio cuts because I did notice it over the weekend that, you know, the acknowledgment has always been there. We eventually had to go in. Democrats are going to have to eventually go in to Iran or Republicans did. And when you had the senior Biden administration officials say, you know, and that was interesting because on Face the Nation. So that it just sort of fall on Trump's lap because that was the timeline of them developing a nuclear weapon. And it's like, yeah, I agree with that. That, you know, we were thinking that in the Biden administration in the next term, we were going to have to go in and take out the nukes. So what and I thought it was interesting that the amount that I saw that on social media over the weekend and really not debated by anyone. And so Eric and I have said from the beginning what the president is doing is the correct thing to do. And if he succeeds at it, it could be monumental. Now, the problem is what the problem, the number one problem with this administration always has been. It's how you market something. Some things he's marketed well, some things he has not. One of the things, and it was a perfect example this weekend, by the time we got to Friday, the war is over, stock market up and the war isn't over. You know, it's the president's proclamation that Iran, remember last week, Iran wants this, we want this, Iran doesn't want it. They have to be forced to agree to it. And it's at up and down and back and forth. That the president is so optimistic that it's going to be ending now and everything's going to be great and everyone's going to make tons of money. And then boom, it reverses itself a day later. And the Iranians, I believe know this, whatever's left, they understand it. I mean, there's a ton of different factions in there, but they understand, no, this is how the president will react. Let's give him hope he'll be totally optimistic and then we'll take it away tomorrow. And if you see, a number of polls have shown that the eroding for support here, because you don't market a war like you may market economic policy. You can't be going up and down and up and down and up and down and up and down. Even if you're doing the right thing and you're succeeding, that's the thing. That's what gets frustrating to me is you're succeeding on this. You're accomplishing so many, at the minimum, you've taken them back at least a decade. Now, it's interesting just watching. Was it Holman Jenkins from the Wall Street Journal that was talking about the fact, look, we've already won this war and this thing out there. And you saw less of it over the weekend that Iran's winning the war, Iran's winning the war. But the mindset of Democrats, as we know, is insane. But independents and others out there will be looking and saying, okay, one day the war is won, the next day it's not, the next day it is, the next day it's not. Don't market a war that way. You can be honest with the American people and say, this is going to be tough and hopefully we've got this here and hopefully got this here and this will be our goal here. They have made clear, one thing in communication they've made clear is that he wants the nuclear stockpile gone. And when you look at what they believe is actually left there and whether it can create 11 or 12 nuclear weapons, they want that gone as they should want it gone. But it's just the marketing of it. Friday it was celebratory, almost to the point of the war is over. Saturday back on again. And so the president is going to market in the way that he markets everything, which is the same way. It's either absolutely unbelievable or it's a blank hole. But when you're in a war, it may be 75% of that, that everything is going your direction, but you got to be realistic with the people of the United States. You cannot be giving the impression all is fine. And it may be all fine, but it's the fact of the up and down. It's millions of Americans watching their 401Ks lose $50,000, gain in the last couple of weeks $60,000, and then seeing it go back down again within a matter of days. I was looking at the stock futures, and they're doing exactly what you would think, oil back up again. And those are things that people notice. They notice that. How can it be great one day and horrible the next day? Well, it really isn't. We are winning, we are winning this war. We have decimated, you know, the original and subsequent Iranian regimes after it, but you've got a huge, fractured, whatever, you know, hanging on government there that you're dealing with. And so that's how it should be marketed on a consistent basis. Now it's interesting because the president's surrogates will be out there and be doing a pretty good job saying, well, here's what we're trying to do here. I mean, Rubio's been great on it. Vance has been really good on it. But it's these highs and these lows and these highs and these lows and these highs and these lows. And you just cannot, you know, market a war that way. The American public's gonna say, hey, what's going on? This is an economic policy. This is, you know, this is a war. Where are we here? What's really going on? And the frustrating part for me is the fact is that he's accomplishing things that nobody thought could actually be accomplished in the Middle East. And now the thing is, you know, where do we go now? And let's say we get to an agreement and the Iranians allow us to go in. And again, this is the tough part. Because who are you getting to agree with you? 30% of the Iranian infrastructure, and I'm talking about the people, the infrastructure of the government agreeing with you and 70% not. How do you know? CIA probably knows. We don't know. CIA probably has a much greater idea as to what the situation is at the moment. But what happens after we get the nuclear weapons? Is Iran going to... Are we going to invest money in Iran? Is there going to be a martial program for Iran? Will the people revolt? Will it be just another, you know, Sharia government, but that's been severely wounded? Is that something that Trump wants to mess with or anybody in America, the Republicans or Democrats want to mess with? If they get their oil revenue back, will they quickly again, maybe not be a nuclear power, but will they be projecting conventional weapons, you know, in the Middle East? Do we want that? What is the possibility of a revolt and starting some sort of democracy or the beginnings of a democracy or a transitional government? Is a transitional government still off the, you know, completely off the table now? Is that not going to happen? There's so many questions that we don't have answered here. The ultimate in the very, very beginning is that if you could have gotten, you know, the regime change, which means with the regime, we're talking about the Sharia-led government is what we're talking about. And you get in the transitional government to have some form of democracy in there. That changes everything in the Middle East long-term, completely changes it. President talked about that in his eight-minute speech the night that we went in, the morning that we went in. Is that still part of what they wish to do last week or a week and a half ago when they were talking about the fact when he was, maybe it was last week, that Iran wants this, we want it, everybody's going to make a lot of money. I'm paraphrasing here. This is going to be, you know, everybody's going to progress and financially, it's going to be the great part of the world, and they'll be doing business with each other and everything else. Is that in the realm of possibility with Iran? And how do you get there? And so you look at it and you say, is victory, you know, what is victory to the American people in this? Is victory, would America look at this and say, and this would be independence, would independence look at this and say, okay, we've gone in, we've got the nuclear, we've got the nuclear material. We've accomplished what we've accomplished. Let's pull out now and get full agreement with even as we played some Democrats there in the last segment that said, yeah, we were gonna have to go in to get rid of it. We were planning on doing it. That was in the Biden administration that they were talking about. And so that's the problem. You don't have a specific defined goal as to what victory is. I will say in the last five days, they focused on, we cannot have a nuclear Iran. And so you could look at that as the benchmark. Regime change, which I believe was an initial goal. Is that still a goal now? And what happens to Iran afterwards? Do they still stay a terrorist state? Will there be a civil war inside of Iran between the factions? And should we care about that? Or is that up to the Iranians to decide for themselves? How much instability would that cause in the Middle East? Again, all questions. Don't have any answers for them yet because we don't know all the different scenarios and variables that might take place in an Iran once we get, if we get, if that's our goal, to get the nuclear weaponry and it's, excuse me, the nuclear, the enriched uranium. And it looks like Trump is serious on that. He wants that deal to do that. And I don't believe if we do that, he wants American forces to face hostile fire. And so do you choke them off as they're doing right now? So like I said, the marketing of it, stop with the up and down every day that we're at the end. Oh no, we're not at the end, but we're very close to the end. That people look at that and go, even if you're doing everything that you should be doing, which it looks like the administration is here. We've been fully supportive of what the administration has been doing. We are Red Eye Radio. You know, when it comes to supplements, there are two things that I look for and I know matter most to you. 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[37:07] He is Eric Harley, and I'm Gary McNamara. So that's still the great unknown. What exactly would a deal with the Iranians be? Besides, again, them agreeing, it seems, and that's been really crystallized in the last five or six days, that no nuclear enrichment, and we want the stuff that you have now. How do you go about that? How do you strike the deal? How do you ensure that we can get in there and do that without taking hostile fire?

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[39:39] Now, it's Red Eye Radio. Gary McNamara and Eric Harley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day. Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show from the Relief Factor Studios. This is Red Eye Radio.

Speaker 6:
[40:00] All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. I'm Gary McNamara. Eric has the morning off. You know, before we get to our Earth Day Update, I had mentioned something last hour when we were talking about, you know, what does victory look like, you know, with Iran? You know, what is it? I mean, how is the administration, how do they wish to define it? And as we talked about last hour and even last week, it looks like they've defined it as, you know, no nukes, no nuclear enrichment. We get the, you know, we get the enriched uranium that you have. And that's the minimum of victory. And I had mentioned that I had read Holman Jenkins' column, he writes for the Wall Street Journal, A victory in Iran won't look like one. And he said, So far so good, but Mr. Trump, Oh, here it is, An Iran that can't get its oil out will soon exhaust its domestic storage capacity, risking permanent damage for technical reasons to its wells by shutting them in. No wonder word came Friday of Iran hustling out a promise to stop its own blocking of shipments in the Gulf. So far so good, but Mr. Trump also wants a nuclear deal, even if it's far from clear that that would be necessary or useful, rather than merely face-saving, given the destruction already done to Iran's nuclear sites and the ability of the US and Israel at any time to return for more. The way to deal with proliferators, nuclear proliferators, it should be understood by now, is not to bargain. It also takes a special kind of leverage to get a regime like Iran's to cut its own throat, which is what Mr. Trump is asking. Mr. Trump wants a deal. Judging by the size and character of their delegation, Iran's regime survivors, they want a deal. But don't expect a big beautiful one of Mr. Trump's promise. Don't expect a deal that in the administration words represents an Iran crossing a golden bridge to a new future, which is what we talked about in last hour, what we talked about last week. And one of the challenges that the president has is one day it's this incredible nirvana that's gonna be in the Middle East. And the next thing, we're gonna destroy the civilization. I agree with it. And by the way, Jake Tapper is still trying to do the whole civilization thing, which is like stop it. And it came back, it was reborn again this week. If you take out bridges and electrical plants, that's a war crime. No, it's not, stop it for God's sakes.

Speaker 19:
[43:07] Jeez.

Speaker 6:
[43:09] It's just like the same old, same old, same old. Yeah, so don't expect a deal that in the administration, in other words, represents Iran crossing a golden bridge to a new future. If oil is flowing again, Mr. Trump perhaps should be happy with the military success he's already had. Iran's Hormuz vulnerability now has been exposed. Its oil can't exit, its imports can't enter, including the millions of tons of construction supplies it will need to rebuild its battered infrastructure. Iran will also need financing, yet its wealthy neighbors are more interested in Iran proofing their own economies. See Saudi Arabia's $250 billion rail and pipeline project to bypass the Persian Gulf. Iran faces a choice, the economic abyss or making peace with its US allied neighbors. There's little hope of attracting investor confidence if Iran can't assure its own access to world markets while it threatens others. But the next hurdle I wouldn't hold my breath for would JD. Vance calls a grand bargain, not a small deal with the mullahs. Does the Trump administration even need a clean ending? History says no. The Iraq and Afghanistan wars of Mr. Trump's predecessors were not fatal to their political interest, even as those wars went awry in ways Mr. Trump's Iran adventure hasn't yet. Afghanistan went on for 20 years. Mr. Trump's war is looking like a bargaining comparison and by certain measures even a victory. But Mr. Trump craves a deal. The question is academic because he won't act on it. But if it came to his threatened attacks on Iran's oil industry, would this really be catastrophic for the Iranian people? Under both the Shah and the mullahs, Iran is exhibit A for what economists call a resource curse. Nothing in the card suggests much improvement. As a result of the current war, the US might be better just to move on. Which brings me to a point. The Persian Gulf closure is a sudden energy shock. A slower moving shock in the opposite direction is a world getting over its energy and climate delusions. Norway is drilling enthusiastically again in the North Sea, uncovering large new deposits of oil for reasons indistinguishable from mental illness. The UK still won't. I remember Eric and I doing a story. Goes back maybe 12, 13 years ago. About the UK. It was inside the UK, I believe, where the experts were going. Maybe it was longer. Maybe it was 2009, 2010. But I remember doing the story where they were like, why isn't the US going after its oil reserves? What's going on? You've got to the, what are you doing? Now it's the opposite. Germany is saving its coal and nuclear plants. Canada is building pipelines again and making peace with its oil sands. The best way to weaken the world's oil tyrants is for responsible countries to give them competition. And it's something that we talked about in general, something that Saudi Arabia even recognized over a decade ago. That, and it's really because, you know, the United States and fracking. That's really what changed everything. We became an energy superpower. And even Saudi Arabia, even the royal family understood we have to diversify, which means if we diversify, we have to trade. And if we trade, it means we need to accept other cultures. Now, does it change overnight? No. And do I trust the Iranians? No. And would I sign a live deal to golf? Yes. No, I'm kidding. No. It depends. Would it be cash up front? And so that's where you are. And that's why there are so many questions here. You know, what is victory? To me, victory, and I think the American public would recognize it. Victory would be not if a civil war happened or the different factions were going at it, but it's the fact that if you look at it right now, can you look at what we have right now, even if we don't get the enriched uranium, if the United States and Israel will go back every time they do something, you know, get close and bomb them again and go, that's it, that's all we need to do. But the problem is, is what we saw in Iran with their proxies, the Houthis and Hezbollah and Hamas. You can be as radical as you want inside your own country and oppress your own people as long as you don't export it. And that's the situation. Can you get an Iran to that point? Don't know. So what is the grand bargain? What would be the details of the grand bargain, as JD Vance talked about? Is it just we're going to go in and get their nuclear enrichment and then that's it, you're on your own? I don't see, again, and Mr. Jenkins talked about in his piece in the Wall Street Journal, the oil rich countries of Saudi Arabia, would they come to help finance and it's like, well, if Iran isn't going to change, you've destroyed so much of their infrastructure, if they're not gonna change, who wants to invest in there? But I think the point that he makes is great and I guess it all is gonna flow right into what we're gonna talk about next, which is memories of Earth Day. No, just in general, when you look at, you go back and look at that back in 1970 and where we've gone as a world and some of the predictions, because some of the predictions are coming out now. The one in the New York Times saying in 1995 that the beaches on the East Coast are gonna be gone in 25 years. Well, they're not gone and we passed that a long time ago, but it's when you take, when you think about it, because I'm old enough to remember when we didn't know we had this oil, as much oil as we had, and the Middle East controlled everything. I remember the odd even days. I was working at a full service gas station. When the lines of cars were down the block, you'd have 200, 300 cars in line waiting to fill up. That's where we were as a nation in the 70s. Everything, it was the thing. Well, we're simply fighting this war for the oil. Every war was for the oil. Because other people had it. Well, now we have it. And other countries know how to get it. And if you want to take the power out of Iran, that's what you do. Great point by Mr. Jenkins. Everybody should be drilling. But we got into BSing ourselves to the point. And a lot of it started in the 1970s. Paul Erlich, who recently died. All the things that he was putting out there in the early 70s and through the 80s and the 90s. And even a couple of years ago went on 60 Minutes, still giving all these doomsday scenarios. And we as a nation and a world, and a significant portion of the world, still buys into that complete and total BS. To the point that you had a president win in 2020 by telling the American public, we can run our grid on solar and wind. And instead of being viewed as that's pure insanity, the American public went, yup, yup, that's a great idea.

Speaker 5:
[52:14] Sounds good to me. I don't know how anything works and I don't care how it works.

Speaker 6:
[52:18] Just, I'm an idiot. I'm ignorant. Just promise me anything. And when they finally got in, it was like, okay, we got to add nuclear too. We can't really do it that way. Well, duh. And now we're to the point, this is really interesting now, where liberal states are saying, no AI centers at all, none. And meanwhile, places like Texas, see, I saw ERCOT, our grid operator, saying, by 2032, think about it, where we are right now, six years, we may need three times the amount of electricity to run all of this, by 2032. And so there's gonna be no choice. And by the way, the people that think, no, we're gonna stop and ban AI, no, you're not. It's not gonna happen. But, you know, there's where we are right now. So we have our Earth Day update coming up here.

Speaker 7:
[53:20] It's gonna be fun.

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[53:22] A great blast from the past. We are Red Eye Radio.

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[54:37] Coming up, more with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley. It's Red Eye Radio.

Speaker 6:
[54:56] We are Red Eye Radio, he's Eric Coney, and I'm Gary McNamara. Eric has the morning off. One more thing on the war, because I just happened to see this, I was scanning during the break there. Suppose the new Iran peace talks are looking more like a joke than a hope. This is the New York Post editorial board, but it's pretty good, because the questions were all asking. As US negotiators head back to Pakistan for more peace talks, we have to ask, what's the point? It wasn't even clear as of the late Sunday if the Iranians would send a team to talk. At least one Iran-run news outlet was saying that they wouldn't. And if negotiators do show, it's likely that any concessions they make will get vetoed by the real powers back home. Last week, the Iranian foreign minister announced to the world that the Strait of Hormuz was completely open for commercial vessels, news that the president joyfully shared with the world. Then, the parliament speaker said Trump had it wrong, and Iran's forces on Saturday opened fire on multiple tankers as they proceeded towards the Strait. All this proves Trump was entirely right to continue the US blockade of Iran's oil exports, and is right now to look at seizing Iran's tankers anywhere in the world. Internal power struggles, and Iran may make talks in Pakistan nothing but a farce. The Institute of Study of War now assesses that the hardline faction of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is likely now in full charge of Iran. They also are thought to control the country's nominal top dog, the seriously injured Supreme Leader in whose name new incendiary tough talk declarations are being issued. It looks like the hardliners will ensure that only, that any negotiators can't truly negotiate. Trump would still rather end the war with no more shots fire, provided Iran offers hard guarantees that it will turn over its nuclear dust and end all nuke weapons work permanently, but it won't be snowed. It will happen one way or another. The nice way or the hard way, it's going to happen, he told ABC News on Sunday. The United States and Israel have had something like two weeks of bombing left as per original plans. Unless Iran produces some verifiable instantly deliberate concessions by Wednesday, those attacks should resume. And that's the problem. Because the negotiations have solved what? The negotiations so far. Nothing. Nothing. And so what's the plan to do it? I guess the one plan would be you keep promoting the fact that you're attempting to negotiate, which then justifies actions later on. We're going to negotiate, but we keep the blockade on. We're going to negotiate, but we keep the blockade on. We've sent our negotiators over there, and yet you may know that it's fruitless to do it. But it doesn't matter, you're looking to market it. You're marketing it to the world audience out there. We're giving them a chance. We're giving them a chance. We're giving them a chance. And this weekend, with the number, I thought it was interesting, number of experts out there in the American news media. And the one Biden senior advisor saying, yeah, we believe that in Biden's, if Biden would have won, that in the spring of last year, they might have gone in. So what we saw last year from, and this was on Face the Nation, they were even making the point in a green on the point, on Face the Nation, that, well, this just sort of fell into Trump's lap because that was the timeline. And so, yeah, we were gonna do it too. Which shows both sides knew we were going to have to do something, whether it was Democrat or Republican.

Speaker 1:
[59:21] K-pop demon hunters, Saja Boys Breakfast Meal and Huntrix Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi?

Speaker 15:
[59:30] It's not a battle.

Speaker 21:
[59:31] So glad the Saja Boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.

Speaker 18:
[59:35] It is an honor to share.

Speaker 17:
[59:37] No, it's our honor.

Speaker 18:
[59:39] It is our larger honor.

Speaker 12:
[59:40] No, really, stop.

Speaker 1:
[59:42] You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side.

Speaker 9:
[59:49] I participate in McDonald's while supplies last.

Speaker 4:
[59:51] So you're saying with Hilton Honors, I can use points for a free night stay anywhere?

Speaker 10:
[59:56] Anywhere.

Speaker 4:
[59:57] What about fancy places like the Canopy in Paris?

Speaker 10:
[59:59] Yeah, Hilton Honors, baby.

Speaker 4:
[60:01] Or relaxing sanctuaries like the Conrad and Touloume?

Speaker 15:
[60:05] Hilton Honors, baby.

Speaker 4:
[60:07] What about the five-star Waldorf Astoria in the Maldives? Are you going to do this for all 9,000 properties?

Speaker 21:
[60:13] When you want points that can take you anywhere, anytime, it matters where you stay. Hilton, for the stay. Book your spring break now.

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Speaker 6:
[60:42] And I'm Gary McNamara, along with Eric Harley. All right, Earth Week. Earth Day. Well, today is 420. You know what day that is, right? Just remember, a little bit of advice here. If you burn one on 420, understand you are destroying the world. One of the worst things for climate change is growing weed. So, understand on this 420 today, they still do that thing in Seattle. Remember, Seattle Institute used to gather together and smoke weed and have a productive day? Remember, what you do on 420 could affect the survival of the world on 422. But Earth Day, let's play the Golden Oldie. I can't believe Eric and I were playing this in the autumn of 2008. Wow. 17 and a half years ago is the first time we played this. And of course, we were talking about the insanity of climate change where we are, but this used to be our, wasn't our theme song. Well, sort of a theme song. There is a drum beat to it here. Here we go.

Speaker 8:
[62:25] Deep in the woods of North Carolina, an extremist eco group called Earth First bewails the violation of American nature.

Speaker 22:
[62:34] I want to learn the loss of all the old growth trees I've seen and tell them that we love them and that we don't want them to die, that there are some people here who do care. So I want you to know that, trees, that we care.

Speaker 17:
[63:07] I think we are deeply hurting in America. I think we are deeply craving answers. I think that we've lost our identity as we have evolved into technology and into industrialized society. Bring me to this cathedral. Bring me to those guys. Bring me to this rock that has the most incredible life. That makes me feel alive.

Speaker 19:
[63:40] I've looked at clear cuts in burnt forest, and I've felt outraged, but I didn't scream and I didn't cry, and I need to.

Speaker 6:
[63:57] You know what my favorite part of that, besides the scream is at the end? Where she says, bring me to this guy, this rock that has the most incredible life. We should have seen the delusions that we see today. There were warnings. But there you go, an oldie but a goodie. Meanwhile, preparing, this was going viral. The New York Times has reported that the East Coast beaches may disappear in as little as 25 years from now. Oops, they published this in 1995. A continuing rise in the average global sea level, which is likely to amount to more than a foot and a half by the year 2100. This say scientists would hit parts of mainly heavily populated river deltas and the cities on them making them uninhabitable and would destroy many beaches around the world. At the most likely rate of rise, some experts say most of the beaches on the East Coast of the United States will be gone in 25 years. That was 1995, which means by 2020, this is over 30 years now. 31 years later, the beaches are all still there. And it's something that we talked about when Paul Erlach died, who was the doomsdayer of all doomsdayers. I mean, he, to me, was the one. You know, that with Earth Day coming about in 1970, and Paul Erlach promoting, you know, that, you know, and we went through all of his wacko predictions. None of them came true. And still 60 Minutes had him on a few years ago saying, you still have a lot of credibility. It's like, only in the environment can you be constantly wrong, and that increases your credibility. But every single major prediction of doomsday scenarios, none have come true. And we asked this question years ago. When is it right to start questioning the credibility of these, quote, scientists who are wrong in every single doomsday prediction? And then, why is it wrong to question them and their credibility when they are consistently wrong? And I'm sure we're going to see a list this week, somebody who put together the list they do every single year on Earth Week, as it is this week, about all the different predictions that never came true. And just remember, when I was in college, you know what we were all paranoid about at that point in college? When I was in college, my first couple of years, global cooling, the upcoming ice age. By the way, the ice age is coming back again. What is it, about 6,000, 7,000 years from now? Just because of the physics of the planet, the tilt of the planet and everything else, and the orbit around the sun. They know that's coming. That's actually science based on physics. But you and I don't need to worry about that. And if they come up with a formula and a special elixir that will give us a 10,000 year lifespan, I don't know if I want that. Let me ask you this, if we could extend life to 200 or 300 years, would that medicine also cure tendonitis and arthritis and water on the knees? Or if we lived to 200 or 300 years, would we basically have just a brain and everything else would be bionic? Oh, where was it? What was the, was it the Boston Marathon this weekend? I saw they had, there was a robot that ran. Did you see that robot? They had this robot. The robot beat all the humans. And your point? Well, robots have rights, so robots should be able to run against any man or woman. The radical robot movement. What was it? Then this goes back again about, oh, when Eric and I first started working together, probably 18, 19 years ago, and I forget we saw the story, by 2056, robots will have rights. That was the prediction from the futurists at the time, and we just went, huh? Robot marriage! But yeah, there's where we are at the most. They were predicting that all the beaches on the East Coast would be gone six years ago. And that hasn't happened. I remember the first Earth Day. I was in junior high school. It was April 22nd, 1970. The weather had cleared up. I was attending Herbert Hoover Junior High School in the town of Tonawanda, New York, which is a suburb of Buffalo. Tonawanda means swift water because it's close. Well, it borders the Niagara River, which eventually goes down about what? Six, seven miles and dumps over Niagara Falls. So I grew up in the town of Tonawanda. Then there's the city of Tonawanda. And then there's North Tonawanda. And I used to date a woman that every time she would, every time I would say Tonawanda, it irritated her. When we were in the stage where we weren't getting along, it really ticked her off when I told her, I come from the town of Tonawanda. Stop it! You know what I did? Oh, I don't know. It was about 10 years ago. We remained friends after we broke up. I sent her a Town of Tonawanda T-shirt. So but there I was, Herbert Hoover Junior High School, Town of Tonawanda, suburb of Buffalo. The weather had cleared up and I don't know what class it was in, but we were told, all right, all you kids, skedaddle out to the neighborhood houses and tell everybody that they have to pay attention and save the planet on Earth Day. I'm not kidding. During school, I would have been what? In 10th? No, I would have been in 9th grade, 8th or 9th grade, whatever. So we went out and they sent us all like, you know, two kids each. You go up to a door, knock on the door. I think it was like one in the afternoon. First door we knocked on was a guy who apparently worked second or third shift. So sound asleep and we're ringing the doorbell, pounding on the door. The guy comes, opens the door in his boxer shorts. You know, he's got the undershirt on, you know, with the shoulder straps on. What the hell you're on? We're here to tell you that it's Earth Day and you need to see how it was in puberty and you need to save the planet. Get the hell out of here. That was the last door we knocked on. We just... That was my introduction to Earth Day. Wow, speaking about Earth Day, you saw, did you see the Greta story on the flotilla? I mean, now, I mean, she's forgotten about the world ending. Now it's the gauze and the sexual harassment that was apparently going on, or sexual activity on the flotilla. It was a sexual flotilla. Man, that sounds dirty. We are. It's never gonna get sane again, is it? It's just never gonna get sane. We're never gonna be normal again, are we? Well, we'll do our best, we'll put in the work, but you gotta laugh. We are Red Eye Radio.

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Speaker 6:
[73:54] We are Red Eye Radio, I'm Gary McNamara, Eric has the morning off. You know, when I look at it 56 years ago, 56 years of Earth days and Doomsday scenarios and all that, like I was a boy scout, an Eagle Scout, and I know about conservation of natural resources, and I'm all for it. And I just, I look at what the left has done though, being concerned about the environment and the conservation of natural resources has nothing to do with creating a future scenario where we as a society cannot exist. And that's where we were headed. Understand again, when Biden was running in 2020, his goal was to run the grid on solar and wind based on all the insanity of what we've been talking about the left has been promoting for the last 56 years. It's impossible to do that. But think about that. That was actually part of the president's platform, Biden's platform about what Democrats wanted to do. Eventually, after marketing that for about three or four months, they had to say, okay, I guess we have to do nuclear too because people just average people were looking at going, are you out of your freaking minds? But understand that's the point that it got to. Understand the trillions of dollars that we, of taxpayer dollars, that we flushed down the toilet for nothing. To pretend that we care. To pretend that we care about delusional, doomsday predictions that were never going to come true and never did come true. But understanding you gotta scare the hell out of everybody or you can't get what you wanna get done, which was, as we've always said, to control, government control more of the capital. Socialism.

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