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Speaker 1:
[00:02] Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.
Speaker 2:
[00:16] Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Ts In A Pod with myself, Teddi Mellencamp, and my girls, Dolores and Tamra.
Speaker 3:
[00:23] Hey, hey, hey, girls.
Speaker 4:
[00:24] How are you?
Speaker 3:
[00:26] Another great episode of Rhode Island.
Speaker 1:
[00:29] Did you like it?
Speaker 2:
[00:31] I liked it.
Speaker 3:
[00:32] Yeah, I'm invested.
Speaker 4:
[00:32] I was on at least this one.
Speaker 3:
[00:34] I know, that's why it was, yeah, that's why it's a great episode.
Speaker 2:
[00:37] I feel like at certain points, you wanted to get your popcorn out and really enjoy the show.
Speaker 4:
[00:42] I absolutely did. You know, Cynthia Bailey, there is something to be said about being a friend of. And let me tell you, she was right.
Speaker 3:
[00:51] Well, it starts out this episode, Liz says, Dino and Kelsey did have a romantic relationship at one point, but admits she was a drunk, drunken mess and wants to apologize. So this is what I like about Liz, you know, she did have a moment that she even admits was in her best moment and she knows it. It's not like somebody has to come up and tell her, you know, you're a dick, you shouldn't have done that. Go apologize. She knew it. She's like, I knew I was over served, went too many drinks and you know.
Speaker 4:
[01:19] And she had a nerve.
Speaker 2:
[01:20] Dolores, is there anything interesting in the scene that we didn't actually get to see?
Speaker 4:
[01:26] In the scene of her and I in the kitchen?
Speaker 2:
[01:28] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[01:29] No, it was fair enough. You know, she just did not like the way she reacted towards that. She, I don't think she thinks she's wrong about feeling the way she did, she just didn't like her reaction.
Speaker 2:
[01:41] Right. Right.
Speaker 4:
[01:42] And that's fair enough.
Speaker 2:
[01:44] Do you think that it kind of upset her about the Dino and Kelsey situation? The fact that Kelsey was the one that brought up you shouldn't be doing things with Dino?
Speaker 4:
[01:56] No, she she just didn't need her to put put light on it. Add fuel to the fire. Add fuel to the fire because as you see, it was Kelsey trying to get it off of herself.
Speaker 3:
[02:14] Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[02:15] But she didn't want anything to do with what she did with him come out. Apparently, it's not the same experience as Liz's friendship.
Speaker 2:
[02:25] Correct. Dolores, you also say in the scene that your heart is breaking for Rula. Do you still feel that way?
Speaker 3:
[02:34] I do.
Speaker 4:
[02:35] Because I know a lot of the things behind the scenes, which we'll get to because something was brought up this episode that's a rumor and not true.
Speaker 2:
[02:44] Okay.
Speaker 4:
[02:45] So, so yeah, I do still feel bad because she's hanging on to her marriage and she doesn't know everything that's going on. And, and she's getting, I feel like, you know, she's hearing it from people who really aren't her friends.
Speaker 3:
[03:04] They don't have her best interest, that's for sure. And I think it's got to be so hard to have to talk about potentially demise of your marriage. Your husband cheating pictures we see in the upcoming episode. It's not over. We see more pictures.
Speaker 4:
[03:22] It's not over. She thinks it is still at this party.
Speaker 3:
[03:25] Right.
Speaker 4:
[03:26] She really does. And I do believe she thinks it is. And if she doesn't and she wants to accept it, why are people so unforgiving about this? Because she has to go to sleep with her decision at the end of the night.
Speaker 3:
[03:38] Not us.
Speaker 4:
[03:39] And I mean, look at, look at Alexia and Todd. He left her. He broke her heart. She cried to us and said, help me stop wanting to be with this man. And we accepted her going back with him so easily. Yet we're seeing a woman who's actually married for many years, has children, and seems to be crazy about this guy, or she wants to say she is because she wants to stand by her man. Does she really love this guy that much? I'm having a hard time with that one. Yeah. She doesn't deviate from that.
Speaker 2:
[04:12] I think she likes her lifestyle.
Speaker 4:
[04:14] She can have that herself.
Speaker 2:
[04:16] I know.
Speaker 3:
[04:17] It's hard to break up your family. Even, you know, you get used to your normal. And I think that she has slowly gotten to a point where he, I'm sure this isn't the first time he's cheated. And she's just like, it is what it is. And it's the old school way of thinking. Like we talked about the other day. You know what? Men cheat.
Speaker 4:
[04:35] She's like, well, she's like, he's stupid. I will tell you, he's a good man. He's a good father. He's a great husband. Listen, the things he says to her in front of me, and then he like sits, like if she moves, he like sits by her. He, maybe she likes that kind of attention. Maybe she does, but she, he tells her, he loves her, he tells her, I screwed up, and then he still does. I mean, you know, listen, she loves him or she says she does.
Speaker 3:
[05:06] She probably doesn't want to break up her family.
Speaker 4:
[05:07] She doesn't want to break up her family, but that's never a reason to stay.
Speaker 3:
[05:11] I know.
Speaker 2:
[05:11] She's probably also embarrassed.
Speaker 4:
[05:14] Well, I think that too.
Speaker 3:
[05:16] For sure, especially this being broadcasted on reality TV.
Speaker 4:
[05:20] He's not the first guy to fall for a seductress or a woman who so they say she seduced him or she was looking for somebody in that realm.
Speaker 3:
[05:32] The mistress?
Speaker 4:
[05:33] Yes.
Speaker 2:
[05:34] Why blame the mistress? Why don't we blame the husband?
Speaker 4:
[05:38] I'm 100,000% blaming the husband. The mistress isn't married. She can go wherever she wants. I'm not blaming her at all.
Speaker 3:
[05:46] Dolores, why does she keep posting pictures if she knows he's married? Why does he not have a problem with it?
Speaker 4:
[05:53] That is, I think he did have a problem with it. What happened was this unravelled got out of hand and he tried to tell her things to calm her down. He tried to keep his wife. Many men do it. You're out of your league, bro. Stay where you belong. You're not cool enough to handle this. Not that this is a cool thing, but you are not a player. So don't try to be one.
Speaker 2:
[06:14] So they both just went rogue.
Speaker 4:
[06:16] They both just went rogue. Rula found out everything when she did. This woman made sure she found out.
Speaker 2:
[06:26] Do you think she actually really found out from Joellen?
Speaker 4:
[06:30] That's what she told me. I don't know that she could have known about that and really stayed. I mean, now we're pushing it.
Speaker 3:
[06:40] Right.
Speaker 2:
[06:41] But also, I mean, you have to have an idea. I think you have a general idea when you're being cheated on.
Speaker 4:
[06:48] There's a general idea.
Speaker 3:
[06:49] You have like a gut feeling.
Speaker 2:
[06:50] Yeah. You have a gut feeling.
Speaker 4:
[06:51] You know how many women I know their husbands were cheating on them, and they're like, he lusts me. He has sex with me every day. That don't mean shit.
Speaker 3:
[07:01] Guys have sex multiple times a day. Okay. He's having sex with you every day, then he's going out and get it somewhere. Does that make him a sex addict?
Speaker 4:
[07:09] No. My men like to have sex more than once a day, I think.
Speaker 3:
[07:14] This guy is not a spring chicken.
Speaker 4:
[07:17] But he's feeling himself. He's in good shape. He's a doctor. This woman, she's not young. She's in her 50s. She's not younger than Rula.
Speaker 3:
[07:30] Yeah. I don't know. It just seems like a little excessive.
Speaker 4:
[07:34] Who knows who went for who? It doesn't matter at this point. It happened. It should have ended when it should have ended. It should never have started and it didn't.
Speaker 2:
[07:45] Well, did you agree with Liz that Kelsey owes her an apology as well?
Speaker 4:
[07:49] Yes.
Speaker 2:
[07:50] You do? Okay.
Speaker 3:
[07:51] I do.
Speaker 2:
[07:52] Because then we're on a beach outing and Alicia spills that Rula met Brian while he was married to Alicia's Spanish teacher.
Speaker 3:
[08:00] Okay.
Speaker 4:
[08:00] Alicia.
Speaker 3:
[08:01] So they were both married before.
Speaker 4:
[08:05] Not true. I asked Rula, when I heard this rumor during the summer, I was like, Rula, I mean, I don't typically repeat these things, but I got it out. Were you, was he married? She goes, no, he was divorced quite some time when I had met him. We were introduced to each other by mutual friends and I happened to be friendly with his ex-wife.
Speaker 2:
[08:31] Well, can we get the Spanish teacher on the pod?
Speaker 3:
[08:35] I do, right. Alicia, I love Alicia so much. I really do. When she was sitting there saying, I'm about to climax because I want the tea. I want the tea.
Speaker 2:
[08:46] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[08:46] It's so funny because Liz was very surprised to hear that Alicia felt that way scary. I don't find Liz scary. Do you find Liz scary?
Speaker 3:
[08:57] No.
Speaker 2:
[08:58] I think that Liz just has an intimidating overall look about her. Like you don't want to fuck with her. It would be the same as, like if I felt like you didn't like me, Dolores, I feel like I'd feel that same way with you.
Speaker 4:
[09:12] Like I get that vibe off, like I guess.
Speaker 3:
[09:15] Well, there's some breaking news, there's some breaking news, guys. Oh, what? Bravo and Cocktails just posted photos of the mistress taking photos in Rula and Brian's backyard.
Speaker 4:
[09:26] Was she laying out by the pool?
Speaker 3:
[09:28] Hold on.
Speaker 2:
[09:28] Let's look. We got to look at this. Let's go to Bravo and Cocktails.
Speaker 4:
[09:31] Get Rula on the fucking phone right now.
Speaker 2:
[09:34] The older I get, the more I realize it doesn't get better with time. It gets better with laser and Obagi skin products.
Speaker 4:
[09:42] She's bad.
Speaker 2:
[09:44] Not the mistress taking pictures in Rula and Brian's backyard.
Speaker 4:
[09:48] Can I please get Rula on the phone right now?
Speaker 2:
[09:51] I mean, this is... I would be so fucking pissed. I would be so pissed.
Speaker 3:
[09:58] This woman's a bitch.
Speaker 4:
[10:03] Like, she's this.
Speaker 3:
[10:04] This is what you call a fucking homewrecker. This is a homewrecker. Fucking bitch.
Speaker 4:
[10:13] She's probably getting bombarded right now.
Speaker 3:
[10:16] Yeah, I mean, taking a call.
Speaker 2:
[10:18] Yeah, she probably does. She's probably heartbroken right now.
Speaker 3:
[10:21] Wow.
Speaker 4:
[10:22] That's uncalled for. He's not with you. Let it go. Let it go.
Speaker 2:
[10:27] But still, why were you in the house?
Speaker 4:
[10:31] That's Rula's story to tell.
Speaker 2:
[10:33] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[10:36] I think I know, but I'm going to... Oh, jeez. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[10:42] Is that her?
Speaker 4:
[10:43] No.
Speaker 3:
[10:44] So on the beach outing, when she gives out that information that Brian was married to Alicia's Spanish teacher, are they insinuating that Rula got her husband the same way she's about to lose him?
Speaker 4:
[10:55] They are insinuating that. But that, like I said, is not true. I know the story behind that. And that is absolutely not true. Can be proven. OK, divorce papers. And when they met are its public record.
Speaker 3:
[11:09] OK.
Speaker 2:
[11:09] But can we also just talk about this beach for a second? Because no one wanted anything to do with this beach except Ashley. Ashley made me laugh when she said, you know, all these women look like they're going to the country club. And I look like a mom who just tried a little bit.
Speaker 3:
[11:29] But I understand why she'd want to take her children to the beach because it's, you know, like the ways are deprecating of it.
Speaker 2:
[11:36] The beach, they were all sitting on site. Like none of them could even get their chairs straight. It was making me nuts.
Speaker 4:
[11:42] Let me explain. They were very limited on where they could film because it was first season and people didn't want them. You know, Housewives shows comes with a stigma. People were like, were you fucking sitting next to the hypodermic needles on the, on the damn last floor? And but that was because they really, the Rhode Island didn't make it easy for them to film. Now, mind you, now that the senators involved in the state house let us film there and all these things, I think it'll have a better reception next year.
Speaker 3:
[12:18] People don't understand how hard it is to film in public places. In certain towns will require a permit, even if a cast member is filming inside their house. Some cities, it takes five days to even get the permit. So let's say I want to film, it doesn't apply to me, where I live, it's fine. But let's say like, oh, I have to do, I want to do a scene with Eddie talking about whatever. They got to ask for a permit five days prior to me even filming in my own damn house. So public places, like beaches and stuff like that, some cities are very relaxed about it. Other cities, they want everything, landlord, they want the owner, they want everybody to sign off on it.
Speaker 4:
[12:59] Very expensive, too. Very. Some permits are super, super expensive. Also, we need permits in New Jersey for every house, even if we live in.
Speaker 3:
[13:10] Yeah. That gets really expensive for production.
Speaker 4:
[13:12] That's part of why Dubai doesn't film anymore.
Speaker 3:
[13:15] Right.
Speaker 4:
[13:15] It's so expensive.
Speaker 2:
[13:29] Am I in the wrong here? But I didn't think Alicia made it out when she said she was scared of Liz and walks on eggshells around her. I didn't think she was saying it in this way that Rosie ends up making it seem like later on.
Speaker 4:
[13:42] Rosie always makes it seem like it's not. Like in the first episode where Rosie, they have the lunch and they start talking about Kelsey's relationship. Jo Mellen stuck up for Kelsey, Jo Mellen brought it up as, listen, she's going through a hard time. And Rosie's like, well, doesn't she have more than one boyfriend? And Jo Mellen shut it right down.
Speaker 3:
[14:08] Right.
Speaker 4:
[14:09] And then when Rosie repeated it to Kelsey, she made it sound like Jo Mellen's the one that brought it up. She brought it up, but not in that manner and with no ill intention. But then when Rosie turned it around, yes. But I do think Alicia was kind of speaking ill of Liz in that way, kind of like could have said it nicer.
Speaker 3:
[14:30] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[14:30] I don't think Rosie twisted too much words this time. And I like Alicia. But but leave it to Rosie. She's going to repeat things.
Speaker 3:
[14:40] There's always a repeater, always a repeater and always one that exaggerates things. I got to ask that girl. OK, OK. I got to ask you, how are pizza pizza chips without cheese? Are they good?
Speaker 4:
[14:53] Oh, God.
Speaker 3:
[14:54] So it's just pizza, pizza dough with sauce on top.
Speaker 4:
[14:57] Let me tell you, Pizza Mama Pizza is the best pizza I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 3:
[15:03] Oh, my God.
Speaker 4:
[15:03] Can we go to Rhode Island?
Speaker 3:
[15:04] Let's go to Rhode Island.
Speaker 4:
[15:06] I'm an I'm addicted to eating. I have a problem. I just.
Speaker 3:
[15:10] Hi, my name is Dolores.
Speaker 4:
[15:13] I'm addicted to food and I'm a yeah, I'm a food addict. I just took a diet pill before I got on here.
Speaker 3:
[15:19] Can I can I fly to or can we fly to Rhode Island? Do a podcast from the pizza place?
Speaker 4:
[15:26] 100% of the girls. They're so nice, by the way, her and her husband are so nice. They gave me I went there one day to they let me use their they gave me the keys to their country club where they weren't allowed to film Blue Bonnet and they gave me some pat day passes. I went with my dad. They gave me the key to their cabana. I went there and it's so funny because Ashley Alicia's like, I don't do nothing. I don't know where the keys are. I don't know where all this stuff. I don't know how to get you passes. Just go see my husband. So but still very generous. I went there and they gave me all this pizza to bring home. Holy shit. There's one pizza. What hot honey on it.
Speaker 3:
[16:08] Oh, we have a place. We have a place like that. Truly pizza is so good. They've won all these awards from Italy, like the best pizza in there in Orange County. And they put spicy honey on their pizza. It is so good.
Speaker 4:
[16:21] So they had all these different pizzas, and the place is good. It's immaculate. You could eat off the floor. I'm a big deal, like with clean places.
Speaker 3:
[16:30] Well, Joellen admits that her sister flirts with her husband. Now, Joellen's sister used to date her husband right in high school.
Speaker 4:
[16:39] So Joellen, so Gary was with Joellen's sister first in high school. Joellen wanted him and like chased them down.
Speaker 3:
[16:49] Did it cause conflict between the sisters at that time?
Speaker 2:
[16:52] She said, oh, and he may have touched her boobs in high school.
Speaker 1:
[16:56] So anyway, it's so small in Rhode Island.
Speaker 4:
[17:01] They all fish in the same pond.
Speaker 3:
[17:03] There was no chitty-chitty bang-bang?
Speaker 4:
[17:06] I bet you there was, but I'm going to just say, I mean, in high school, if you're touching my boobs, probably I was going to do more than that.
Speaker 2:
[17:13] But did you see any chemistry between Gary and the sister? A little bit.
Speaker 3:
[17:18] You're really asking me. I mean, at least they're keeping it in the family.
Speaker 4:
[17:23] I felt like they played house very nice together.
Speaker 1:
[17:26] Yes, almost like a married couple.
Speaker 4:
[17:27] They joke about this really often. There's a scene at my house, and I really hope they don't cut it out. All I could tell you is my dad, he was there for it and he's still talking about it.
Speaker 3:
[17:39] Gary asking Jen how his underwear smelled as she's doing laundry.
Speaker 2:
[17:43] If she pulled that up to her nose, I was dying. I was waiting for that moment.
Speaker 3:
[17:46] She should have pulled it up and goes, smells the same.
Speaker 4:
[17:51] Memories, memories. Yeah, smell is like the best for memory, they say, so there you go.
Speaker 3:
[17:59] Well, Joellen did say that her and her sister did not get along and they were not close growing up, and it wasn't until 2010, then when their father passed away that they became close.
Speaker 4:
[18:09] Well, I'm glad that they are best friends. I guess the sister is never married or has children, so she helps Joellen a lot of really life.
Speaker 3:
[18:19] Well, that's nice.
Speaker 4:
[18:20] Yeah, I think that Joellen has a very tumultuous relationship with her mom, and we'll see that, and I think people will find that relatable.
Speaker 2:
[18:34] But I think regardless, if I knew that my husband had chitty-chitty-bang-banged or even just touched the boobs of my sister.
Speaker 4:
[18:42] Even in high school, it still counts.
Speaker 2:
[18:44] Even in high school, I don't know that I would go out of town and want my sister to play house with my family.
Speaker 4:
[18:50] Oh, well, listen, I think that we're going to have some fun with this storyline going, moving forward.
Speaker 3:
[18:55] Do you think they're just having the two of them, the sister and the husband just having fun with it, poking at it?
Speaker 4:
[19:01] Oh, yeah. I mean, listen, do I think they bang? No. But have I seen relationships where I knew the guy was banging the sister 100 percent?
Speaker 3:
[19:11] I have seen.
Speaker 2:
[19:12] Oh, my gosh. Well, then Alicia reveals more details of her relationship. Her fiance doesn't want her name on the house and he controls her finances. Are these too many red flags for Alicia?
Speaker 4:
[19:26] This is a problem. And this is why I'll tell you. And I happen to love her husband, like an amazing guy. Here's a problem. We don't know what's going to happen. If your relationships over tomorrow, he doesn't have to give you one thing. What I hate is, why do women feel the need to prove their worth in a relationship if they're not the money maker, if they don't work? Someone's time and youth and life is worth more than their money that they make. Raising his child, giving him this beautiful daughter, she's a competitive dancer, she has a beautiful life.
Speaker 3:
[20:05] That's priceless. Yeah, that's a full-time job, taking your daughter to all these dance recitals and stuff like that. She's competitive.
Speaker 2:
[20:13] I can say, I felt like her before, like when I, right after I had Slayton Cruise, is when I wasn't working for the first time in my life. It was just like I had both the kids. And I remember feeling like I had to ask for money to like go to sushi or get my nails done.
Speaker 4:
[20:28] I hate that.
Speaker 2:
[20:29] And it was the worst, the worst feeling.
Speaker 3:
[20:33] Don't you have a card? Like don't you have a card connected to accounts you can use? Like why would you have to ask for money for the children?
Speaker 2:
[20:39] No, everything's separate.
Speaker 4:
[20:41] Everything is, you know nothing. When it looks to me, I've been this person before. You know nothing. You know the bills are getting paid. You don't have a responsibility in the world, but you have to ask for every fucking dollar.
Speaker 3:
[20:56] I can do it. I could not do it.
Speaker 4:
[20:58] Well, that's a lot of relationships. I don't know why there's a monetary value on what a woman can bring to the table. The fact that somebody is there and loves you should just be enough and raise your child, or not even have a child, but the fact that you're giving your life and your time to somebody. I am so fucking disgusted with that mentality.
Speaker 2:
[21:20] I hate it. You can tell it's breaking her down. You can tell it's going to cause more issues.
Speaker 3:
[21:26] Well, either she puts up with it or she gets out.
Speaker 2:
[21:28] I think she might need to sell some of those dolls. If those are worth the money, they're what?
Speaker 4:
[21:33] Bratz dolls?
Speaker 3:
[21:35] I don't think so. I doubt it. I'd be shocked. But you know who I'm obsessed with is Alicia's aunt. Oh my God. This woman is so funny. She tells Rula that after an affair, it's hard to trust again, which obviously would be extremely hard.
Speaker 4:
[21:50] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[21:51] And then Alicia's mom wanting Rula to hurt Brian right up his ass. And I'm like, oh my God.
Speaker 4:
[21:58] That is a carbon copy of my aunt's and my family.
Speaker 3:
[22:01] Oh my God. I got to hang out with you guys.
Speaker 4:
[22:04] My aunt, Dolores, I learned more about life from her than I will ever learn. She's, that's how my aunt's talk. And they're not wrong. You get a lot of wise wisdom from them.
Speaker 2:
[22:18] But we have to also think, remember the conversation that Rula had with her family before, when her whole family's like, everybody cheats, just get over it, move on, blah, blah, blah. Now, all of a sudden we're with Alicia's family and they're like, do you want to live your life looking over your shoulder?
Speaker 3:
[22:35] Yeah. No, give it to him right up his ass is what she's saying.
Speaker 4:
[22:38] I think it's a metaphor for the mentality back when they were getting cheated on was turn the other way.
Speaker 3:
[22:43] She did say that. The aunt did say that.
Speaker 4:
[22:45] All right, well, I don't remember saying that, but I do know that's that mentality. But I can tell you that now the women telling the younger generation, you don't fucking have to put up with that. No, it's not okay.
Speaker 3:
[22:58] Because they lived it and grew up, and it's like, nope, don't do it.
Speaker 4:
[23:01] And where did it get them? It got them.
Speaker 3:
[23:04] Oh, my God. There's more breaking news. Oh, the mistress. She follows Dolores and also Two Ts Instagram account. Can we please make a clip about her?
Speaker 2:
[23:21] Why does the mistress can't be bothered to follow me and you, Tam? She could just follow the Two Ts. She wants to go straight to the source.
Speaker 4:
[23:30] This is giving me some familiarity to something that we saw on my show.
Speaker 3:
[23:36] And Andy Cohen and a bunch of housewives.
Speaker 2:
[23:39] And like two judgy girls. Like she's in the midst. Like she wants to be in this.
Speaker 4:
[23:42] She's going to be giving. So you know what's happening next. As the show airs.
Speaker 3:
[23:47] She'll be on a podcast and it's not going to be ours.
Speaker 4:
[23:50] As the show airs and as things come on, somebody on the cast will be saying, post this today. This this is coming out today. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:
[24:02] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[24:04] Brian's in trouble.
Speaker 2:
[24:06] Brian's in trouble, but I did. I love the ants. I love them saying, you know, do you want to spend your life this way? And you can feel it with Rula. She doesn't know.
Speaker 3:
[24:20] I think she knows. I think she's just her.
Speaker 2:
[24:21] No, I mean, she doesn't know if she wants to stay or go.
Speaker 4:
[24:25] Rula is going through it because now by the time you see the ants, Rula has been showed proof. Rula now, it's hit her in the face. It's like in your face that this didn't end when she was told it ended.
Speaker 3:
[24:43] Yeah, it's going to get really messy. And then I would say this season with this mistress, with connections and following bloggers and giving out information and posting pictures, it's going to get dirty.
Speaker 4:
[24:55] What we haven't seen, I feel like, is the real time woman, the person finding out. We've seen things that happened in the past, but I think what's significant to this situation is that we're seeing a woman go through and find things out.
Speaker 3:
[25:13] In real time. Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[25:14] Or for most, for the most part, did she know about, yes, there was an affair, but to find out that it didn't stop is a whole finding out about a whole nother affair now.
Speaker 3:
[25:23] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[25:24] Even though it's the same woman.
Speaker 2:
[25:25] And then you're just dealing with like, are you a pathological liar that you can look at me and say, I love you and I'm so sorry and I made this huge mistake. But yes, I'm actually still having an affair.
Speaker 4:
[25:37] Here's the thing. I think that like we've all seen, here is a guy who got himself into trouble and didn't know how to get himself out and dug his hole deeper by just not telling the truth. And that's it.
Speaker 3:
[25:53] Yeah. Well, what did you think?
Speaker 4:
[25:55] By the way?
Speaker 3:
[25:56] Yeah. What did you think about Rosie's reservation about having kids and her explanation was because her mom was critical of her, so she doesn't want to mess anybody up.
Speaker 4:
[26:05] I think a lot of people feel like that.
Speaker 3:
[26:08] Yeah. But I, do you think she'll end up going on to have kids?
Speaker 4:
[26:13] No.
Speaker 3:
[26:13] No. So it's a hard no. She likes kids, but only when she can leave them with her parents, she said.
Speaker 2:
[26:20] I'm surprised they didn't have this conversation before they got married.
Speaker 4:
[26:25] I don't know how long they knew each other before they got married.
Speaker 3:
[26:27] He did say we did talk about this before we got married. What has changed?
Speaker 4:
[26:31] You'll like him. He's a nice guy.
Speaker 2:
[26:34] Yeah. I mean, I don't know. It feels like he wants to have kids.
Speaker 3:
[26:39] Maybe it was Rosie watching Ashley with her two kids at the park and slapping her in the face.
Speaker 2:
[26:45] She's like, fuck it, I ain't having kids.
Speaker 4:
[26:47] No way.
Speaker 3:
[26:48] Those little fuckers.
Speaker 4:
[26:49] I feel like Rosie likes to be a little girl, and she doesn't want to grow up. And guess what? When you become a mother, you're not a little girl anymore.
Speaker 2:
[26:58] Then Liz goes to clean up the boat, which I'm still so glad that you told us that that was a money-making boat because from this scene, I wouldn't have gotten that either because she had all of her nice stuff in there.
Speaker 4:
[27:10] Like millions. That's like a fishing boat.
Speaker 2:
[27:16] Yeah. Then Kelsey opens up to Liz about her past with Dino. He was so controlling. She has PTSD over it.
Speaker 3:
[27:26] She kind of made it sound like Dino was low-key stalking Kelsey. That's how she was making it sound.
Speaker 4:
[27:30] No, that's what she said. She said he would show up to places. He didn't want her doing things or going out, and she just wanted to get rid of him.
Speaker 3:
[27:39] Is this another relationship Kelsey was having while dating this guy? This guy?
Speaker 4:
[27:44] Well, it's within 10 years. She said she's been there 10 years. That girl got a lot done in 10 years.
Speaker 3:
[27:50] Well, so she was with the guy. What is his name? John. John. She was with John, but she's been dating other people this whole time.
Speaker 4:
[27:58] He was allowed to.
Speaker 3:
[27:59] Just like he is.
Speaker 4:
[28:00] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[28:01] But I would think a lot of times with a guy that's wealthy and powerful like that, he'd be like, I'm going to date other people, but you're not.
Speaker 4:
[28:08] If that was my daughter, well, that's typically how it goes, but if that was my daughter, I'd knock her fucking teeth out of her mouth.
Speaker 3:
[28:14] I'd pull her out by the fucking ears.
Speaker 4:
[28:16] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[28:16] I think also, I don't think that Kelsey is the main one. I think Kelsey is the second.
Speaker 3:
[28:23] She's a side chick?
Speaker 2:
[28:24] She's the second. Not a side chick, but she's the second to John. Whoever's with John in Miami, that's the number one.
Speaker 3:
[28:33] Do you think so?
Speaker 2:
[28:34] Yeah. I think that she can't go out with anybody else, but I think he likes Kelsey. I think he would do anything for her, but he knows that at the end of the day, she's probably going to leave and he's going to let her do it.
Speaker 4:
[28:49] You know what my auntie told me? Aunt Dolores told me number one doesn't have to know about number two. Number two doesn't know about number three, but number two and three always have to know about number one.
Speaker 2:
[29:03] Right.
Speaker 3:
[29:04] Yeah. Well, okay. So we have another Sprinter band. Not a housewife show without a Sprinter band. And Rosie says she left NBC 10 on a medical leave from colitis. But Kelsey says she was fired for sleeping. Yeah. Well, hey, I can relate to that. With my stomach issues. So no judgment there. But she says she was fired for sleeping with a higher up.
Speaker 2:
[29:27] But this is the part that bugs me.
Speaker 4:
[29:30] She said it wasn't true. But anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2:
[29:32] The part that bugs me, though, is everybody else but Rosie is saying these things in their confessionals. She didn't say that to Rosie right then. She just sat there quietly. They're in the sprinter. Rosie says she left NBC on medical leave for colitis.
Speaker 3:
[29:48] You're saying she's a she's a confessional assassin.
Speaker 2:
[29:52] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[29:53] I never heard that.
Speaker 2:
[29:54] Then everybody's just silent. They're like, Oh, OK.
Speaker 3:
[29:57] I kind of that kind of bothers me.
Speaker 2:
[29:59] You know, and then the second they get into the confessional, she's like, Oh, well, actually, she was sleeping with a higher up and she got fired. You know, like that.
Speaker 4:
[30:07] She said 100 percent true this. Well, then I want to hear it at the reunion.
Speaker 2:
[30:12] I want to hear you say it in front of her because Rosie's the only one doing the stirring. It bothers me.
Speaker 4:
[30:19] Yes. You're right. And you know what else, Kelsey, when she said sucking dick for a living or she called you a slam pig or whatever it was she called you.
Speaker 3:
[30:28] A slam pig.
Speaker 4:
[30:30] When she called you all these names, why didn't you bring it up then? Because I would have shoved it right down her fucking throat.
Speaker 3:
[30:37] Right.
Speaker 4:
[30:38] Right there. Okay. Don't say it on the sprinter van, but say it when she's physically throwing you out of your house, calling you a pig.
Speaker 3:
[30:45] Yeah. Right. Have your balls. So this cast is clearly not afraid to bring up any kind of affair rumors at all.
Speaker 2:
[30:52] I mean, first, I mean, they're not afraid with the basketball coach.
Speaker 3:
[30:55] First, Rosie's accused of sleeping with a basketball coach, now a higher up at the station.
Speaker 4:
[31:00] Well, Rosie said that that's not true with the coach. She never met him. But you know what, if I was talking shit about me, if I was Kelsey, I would get down to the bottom of that. It's not hard. All you have to do in Rhode Island is scratch the surface. And I know how to pay people for information in New Jersey. Yeah, like you have to do ungodly things that you get in trouble for to get information.
Speaker 2:
[31:28] Well, Kelsey, Kelsey went deep and she said this is 100. She was 100 percent sure about this. She didn't even say 99 percent.
Speaker 3:
[31:35] But but on the bikes, Rosie tells Liz she's scary. And she doesn't allow people to get close.
Speaker 4:
[31:42] You know, you're not afraid of Liz. No one's I don't think anyone's afraid of Liz. She's Liz will give you the shirt off your back. If if you're not talking bullshit, then Liz is probably not going to.
Speaker 3:
[31:55] But I think Liz is a lot like you, Dolores. It's like she's nice. She's sweet. She'll do anything for you. But if you cross her, if you cross her, it's not going to be a good day for you.
Speaker 4:
[32:05] Rulers Calling Me. Hi, Rula. I want to tell you, I'm on my podcast. They can't hear you, but I was going to ask you if you want to make a statement. The girl posted, can I put you on speaker? It's all over the internet. Hold on one second. Rula?
Speaker 5:
[32:37] Yes, I'm here. Hi, Rula.
Speaker 4:
[32:40] Teddi and Tamra on Two Ts.
Speaker 3:
[32:42] Hi, Rula. Hi.
Speaker 5:
[32:45] How are you ladies?
Speaker 4:
[32:46] If you want to tell her what just came out, I don't know that she knows.
Speaker 2:
[32:50] Okay. We're fucking pissed right now.
Speaker 4:
[32:53] They're pissed right now. Everybody's on your side, Rula. A picture was just posted of you.
Speaker 2:
[33:00] No, not of her, of the other woman.
Speaker 4:
[33:03] Of the mistress at your house in your backyard.
Speaker 2:
[33:06] She said, the older I get, the more I realize it doesn't get better with time. It gets better with laser and Obagi skin products. And then the person says, not the mistress taking pictures in Rula and Brian's backyard. It just really pisses me off. Like who is this woman and why is she there? Why is she in your home?
Speaker 5:
[33:25] So, reluctantly.
Speaker 4:
[33:27] Just wait, Rula, so you know that we're gonna air this. Is that okay? But you probably wanna get ahead of it.
Speaker 5:
[33:33] Yeah, no, absolutely. So, this person, and everybody knows this person, so beside a select few who might just be rallying for the wrong reasons, this person I helped grant a job to and she worked with my husband in our establishment. And after granting her that opportunity, she set her eyes on me and my husband, what we worked hard for and what we had. And rather than be a respectful 50 something year old mother with two children herself who was getting a divorce and who's been let go from other jobs, she's proceeded to try to take my husband, invade my life, harass social media sites. There's proof, just ask any of them. I'm not saying that he did not do wrong. He did wrong. And I've chosen to take care of that my own way in order to seek out everything with him and protect my family. But when people are publicly thrashing me, not knowing all these details has absolutely crushed me and broken my heart. This woman came to the house twice. When she first started working for us, he extended her an invite as well as everybody else at the establishment to our well-known pre-New Year's Eve party. She went into rooms taking pictures, sizing things up. I had my caterer and bartender friends and families. I didn't even notice. They said, Rula, she's on your husband's ass this entire night. What is she? She got wasted and stayed till the last minute, ladies. To the point she, she said this, she said, I'm drunk. I probably shouldn't be driving right now. Her friend who came with her as a guest left her, left her that night. Why are you staying at my house last night? We just hired you. She said, I said, well, do you want us to call you an Uber? I'm like, what is she looking for? An invite to sleep over? And she's like, don't worry if they stop me, I'll be sure to let her know what house I came from. I had another couple here. I swear to God.
Speaker 2:
[35:44] She sounds like a real lovely person. I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. I mean, I know how heartbreaking it can be. She's a- You're very strong. It's still like when this is happening, you just, there's those moments where you feel completely just broken.
Speaker 5:
[36:02] Absolutely. I appreciate your words and I love you ladies, by the way, and I love my Dolores and I appreciate all of her support throughout all of this. But nobody knows the half. She was here twice and the second time was a summer, and she is relentless. I don't know what her objective is. My husband didn't love you. He is not in love with you. He had an opportunity to leave. We never had relationship issues. She was coming on to him. She had a plan. There's no textbook on how to handle things when someone betrays you, someone closest to you. It's true.
Speaker 3:
[36:44] She's a home wrecker.
Speaker 5:
[36:47] She's an attempted home wrecker. She doesn't get the title home wrecker because that cockroach is on her own right now. And all I hope and ask fans and others and other women who have been in my shoes to do is recognize her for what she is, a piece of trash, attempted home wrecker. You don't do that to people. You knew he was married and you knew me. Shame on you. And I feel bad for your kids. And I wonder what her family and ex-husband are thinking right now. Shame on her for doing what she's doing right now.
Speaker 2:
[37:17] When was the last time you saw her?
Speaker 5:
[37:21] In person? Oh, God, it hasn't been since maybe summer of 2024. I think it might have been the last time. And the second time she had come to the house for a barbecue for all the team and the employees. It was a rainy day and she was in a bathing suit. She splashed around and got drunk in my pool and two children were with her and everybody was mortified. And I could not get her out of this house fast enough. And I looked at my husband and I said, what is this?
Speaker 2:
[37:58] Well, we'll be thinking about you.
Speaker 5:
[38:01] Thank you. I don't know where these things come from. It's unbelievable, but I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4:
[38:06] Welcome to the world of Bravo.
Speaker 2:
[38:08] Yeah, welcome to the World Wide Web of Bravo.
Speaker 4:
[38:11] Yes. Anyway, all right, Ruel, I'm glad you answered. I'm glad you heard it from friends first.
Speaker 5:
[38:19] Yes. Thank you. I appreciate you all for bringing this to me.
Speaker 4:
[38:22] Do you want me to send you the picture?
Speaker 5:
[38:25] Sure. Go right ahead. Yeah. Sure. Send it over.
Speaker 4:
[38:28] It's her in a pair of black pants and a gray sweater. Do you remember?
Speaker 5:
[38:32] That was my pre-New Year's Eve party December of 2023.
Speaker 4:
[38:39] Okay. Well, you could look at it. I just sent it to you.
Speaker 2:
[38:43] Is that back when the affair was? Sorry to even ask, but around what time frame was the affair?
Speaker 5:
[38:52] It began from, again, what I know now, March of 2024, and he was trying to end it in late summer, fall of 2024. He kept making mistakes because he just could not keep her at bay. She was throwing threats at him, which a lot of women like that will do. And he should have just come clean. He should have come clean, but he was just trying to phase her out in his own way, knowing that he was potentially ruining his life and everything we've worked hard for. And he just could not keep her at bay. And this is why this has now gone on this long. There are other things that people don't know about that he's tried to do to stop her. She's just, she has no self-respect apparently. And you can't, you can't, she wants what she can't have. And this is not how you obtain it, ladies. All right, well, keep me posted. I'm doing my best.
Speaker 4:
[39:52] All right, stay strong.
Speaker 2:
[39:54] Stay strong.
Speaker 5:
[39:55] Thank you so much.
Speaker 4:
[39:56] You're welcome, bye.
Speaker 5:
[39:57] Take care. Bye bye.
Speaker 2:
[40:00] It gives us the information that we needed, but I mean, it still tells me, you know, there's only so much of that. As a man that's married, poor me, I was bamboozled into this affair. Like, no, you made this choice.
Speaker 4:
[40:19] Don't think there, it's not right to the other woman either. It's not right to her either, yeah. Like, listen, she chose to be with someone married and there's a chance that he is not leaving his wife.
Speaker 2:
[40:33] Of course he's not leaving his wife, but also I'm not saying she's a good person. I'm saying she's, you know, guilty, but I'm saying he's guilty as well.
Speaker 4:
[40:42] And he's more wrong than she is.
Speaker 3:
[40:44] I have a question.
Speaker 4:
[40:45] Sorry, he's more wrong than her. I don't care how it happened.
Speaker 3:
[40:48] Yeah. Okay. How did Jo Ellen find these pictures? Was she in cahoots with this mistress? Were they communicating?
Speaker 2:
[40:57] No, she said she was drunk scrolling.
Speaker 3:
[40:59] She follows her. She follows her.
Speaker 2:
[41:01] And was scrolling in the middle of the night. Rula just said it.
Speaker 4:
[41:04] So here's the thing. Brian, everybody knew Brian was doing this. This was not a secret. The only one that didn't know at the time, which no one wants to believe I feel like on the show is Rula. I feel like I believe Rula.
Speaker 2:
[41:20] I believe Rula, too. The way that she just said, like she did not know until it was happening.
Speaker 4:
[41:25] Like he didn't stay out overnight.
Speaker 3:
[41:27] Yeah. Oh, poor thing.
Speaker 4:
[41:30] Like, you know, she thought he was going through a midlife crisis. Yeah, he probably started dressing different, working out, cologne, spending more time at the gym. You know, shit in my back in my day when I was getting cheated on, you grew a goatee. Now, you just take gozempic and do some steroids and get a spray tan and get vascular all of a sudden.
Speaker 3:
[41:57] All right. Well, let's move. Let's go back to the whole rail bikes or whatever those. I've never seen those before. But on the way, Kelsey shows what show she should be on. And it's on Housewives. She opens a beer bottle with her teeth and then admits that she'd rather watch Love Island than have sex with Billy.
Speaker 4:
[42:16] But no, let's not forget what which was the... Well, she said which boyfriend, by the way.
Speaker 3:
[42:22] She'd rather have sex with Billy.
Speaker 4:
[42:25] Poor Billy. So she also said, and I'll never forget Rula's face when she said this, because Rula is so proper and she goes, I ate the cheeseburgers from McDonald's that I threw in the trash yesterday. Yeah. Well, I'm glad she knows how to rough it, because if she doesn't find a rich guy, she will be roughing it.
Speaker 3:
[42:46] That's what I'm saying. Somebody has this bougie life and she's with this guy with money and you think she's a gold digger, and then you're like, she's opening beer bottles with her back teeth and would rather watch Love Island. I'm like, girl, I don't think housewives for you. I still think you need to go over to Summer House.
Speaker 4:
[43:03] 100,000 percent. Summer House.
Speaker 3:
[43:06] Yeah, you'd fit in red.
Speaker 2:
[43:07] Listen, I feel like we're going to see her on Trader. She's going to find some handsome Bravo lab and we're going to be good to go. I mean, she's beautiful.
Speaker 3:
[43:16] She is, but I don't think she's trader worthy yet.
Speaker 2:
[43:19] No, probably not yet. But I like her.
Speaker 3:
[43:22] I like her too.
Speaker 2:
[43:24] But then once again, Rosie gets her spoon, starts stirring the pot and tells Liz what Alicia said about being scared of her. Alicia tells Rosie not to twist her words and calls her a fucking troll. Then she loses her shit.
Speaker 3:
[43:40] Loses her shit.
Speaker 2:
[43:42] I was confused. I thought she was leaving. She grabbed her grocery bag with her cheeses or her crackers that she likes to bring.
Speaker 4:
[43:51] Her crackers.
Speaker 2:
[43:53] Then she comes back and the smoke is blowing into Rosie's eyes and she's like, see, even look at what's happening to your eyes.
Speaker 3:
[44:00] I know. Dolores.
Speaker 4:
[44:03] Wait, and then she throws the drink on her own chair.
Speaker 3:
[44:07] I know. Is the accent that Alicia has, is that a Rhode Island accent?
Speaker 4:
[44:13] That's Rhode Island. That's I never left Rhode Island for three seconds. I've never, because I don't drive on the highway, I've never traveled too far from where I grew up, is the accent. I should have a Patterson accent.
Speaker 3:
[44:28] You had a great one-liner. You said Ashley is going to need a bath and holy water tonight.
Speaker 4:
[44:33] Because Ashley is from Virginia. She's so not like this is her, this was like she got her cherry pop. This was like the first fucking closest thing to a fight she's ever seen in her life.
Speaker 2:
[44:48] Yes. I think she loved it.
Speaker 4:
[44:50] No, she started crying.
Speaker 2:
[44:52] I think she's good at narrating. I think she's good at narrating what's going on.
Speaker 4:
[44:56] She's good at her confessionals, which saves you. It carries a lot away if you don't do a lot during scenes.
Speaker 2:
[45:03] But then what do you think made Alicia get over it so quickly? And then now we're good to go.
Speaker 3:
[45:09] It's not just her personality.
Speaker 4:
[45:11] She got the poison out.
Speaker 2:
[45:12] She got the poison out.
Speaker 3:
[45:14] See, I can do the same thing. I can go off on you and be like, okay, we done? Did we settle this?
Speaker 2:
[45:20] I can't.
Speaker 4:
[45:21] The problem is I'm like that. The problem is the other person has to meet you in that like spot because then you have people like Kelly.
Speaker 3:
[45:33] I was just going to say that her.
Speaker 2:
[45:34] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[45:35] I went to Atlanta when when Porsche is like, all right, I got it out of my system. I called you out for calling me out all this time. We're good. And they hugged it out. And then it wasn't over.
Speaker 2:
[45:46] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[45:46] See here, it's over.
Speaker 2:
[45:48] But do you think it's really over because Rosie doesn't upset by it or Rosie's just like, I'm sick of getting yelled at?
Speaker 4:
[45:56] No, I think she's actually over it. Because Rosie's, I think, just used to causing trouble. And yeah, she doesn't mind it.
Speaker 2:
[46:05] But I mean, it was a good episode. I I feel like I need to know a lot more about Dino. Are we going to see Dino more?
Speaker 4:
[46:13] I don't know. I don't think so.
Speaker 3:
[46:16] I want to be done with Dino.
Speaker 2:
[46:18] I might need to be on the gram in finding Dino. I need to find a little bit of a...
Speaker 3:
[46:23] You go do that.
Speaker 2:
[46:25] Yeah, I'll take my time. You go do that. I'll let you guys know.
Speaker 3:
[46:28] Okay. All right.
Speaker 2:
[46:29] All right. Well, thanks for another good episode, guys.
Speaker 4:
[46:32] Bye, guys. Okay.
Speaker 2:
[46:33] Bye.