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Speaker 1:
[00:01] I'm Holly, and I'm Bridget, and this is Girls Next Level.

Speaker 2:
[00:09] Welcome back to Girls Next Level podcast. We are ready for the Kentucky Derby in a few weeks. And yeah, we're back. And you were just in Virginia City, a very haunted Nevada ghost town.

Speaker 1:
[00:22] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[00:22] What did you do? What happened?

Speaker 1:
[00:24] So I took my parents, went there for an investigation at Mackie Mansion with two investigators from that area, Denise and Selma. They invited me, they had the house. It was for ourselves that night. Dawn, she's the general manager and her son, Halen, who does the haunted tours and stuff. They were so sweet. They did like tea for us. And we like ate in the main dining room and she had cookies set out. So it was really, really sweet. And then she told, or she had actually Halen tell us about the history. I've already had them on my podcast too. I kind of know it all, but my mom hasn't. And I mean, I can get into more details on our slumber party because it's kind of a long story involved, but my mom has never had a paranormal experience. And I bring her along with me in a lot of things. And she was starting to feel like maybe I shouldn't bring her anymore because she feels like she's like a cooler.

Speaker 2:
[01:17] Yes, a cooler for those who don't know is somebody who just like sucks the luck out of the room. You don't want to have one at a gambling table.

Speaker 1:
[01:25] Yeah, I just realized I forgot my ring. Yes, like I hate when I do that.

Speaker 2:
[01:29] Did my aura ring remind you?

Speaker 1:
[01:31] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[01:31] Not sponsored, but I can't shut up about it.

Speaker 1:
[01:34] And I'm so used to like fiddling with it with my finger because it always turns and it's like facing inward. So like I always have a habit of just doing this to like make it face right. And I went to do that when I saw your ring and I was like, Oh, damn it. It's not on again.

Speaker 2:
[01:48] Bridget's not wearing her engagement ring.

Speaker 1:
[01:50] I was just on the trip away from home and now I'm not wearing my ring. What does it mean?

Speaker 2:
[01:56] You met a ghost.

Speaker 1:
[01:57] It means I put lotion on today. And oh, but anyway, long story short, my mom had her first paranormal experience.

Speaker 2:
[02:06] What happened?

Speaker 1:
[02:08] You want me to say it here? I was going to say it for the slumber party.

Speaker 2:
[02:10] Okay, we can save it for our Patreon. Yeah. But I think that's cute.

Speaker 1:
[02:13] Yeah. And she was like, I am no, like I'm not even a skeptic anymore.

Speaker 2:
[02:19] It's exciting.

Speaker 1:
[02:20] And I'm so excited. And for me it just feels like, yeah, big deal. So what, but like, it was very emotional for her when she realized what just happened. Like she started crying and stuff. And like, I know what I saw. I know what I saw. Like how could it be, you know, like really.

Speaker 2:
[02:37] Oh my God.

Speaker 1:
[02:38] And then a funny thing happened to her too that I have to tell you about, not at the Mackie Mansion, but just in Virginia city. It's a super funny story. But again, that's a slumber party thing. Cause I just feel like it's too much. But then I also, you know, was home for my grandma's birthday. Oh, but first that I had a little time from that I was home. We went, I was up on the bobcat, lifting me up on a pallet, all the way up into all of my stuff up there. And this time I brought everything down.

Speaker 2:
[03:04] Every single thing?

Speaker 1:
[03:05] Everything. Well, there's already a bunch that's on the floor in the middle, but we had put like, I think there's 32 bins up high. And my sister had done that a long time ago, trying to get some of the stuff up off the ground. But then it was before we were doing this podcast, or I was writing my book or anything like that. Now I've had to go up there, as you guys know, so many times. And so, I mean, it was back-breaking stuff. But, and I need my stepdad to help because he has to maneuver the bobcat and lift me up on the pallet and get up there. And one side is really, really high. Anyway, and some of those bins are so heavy. And I was just loading them all on. And then we cleared off, my stepdad obviously doesn't work anymore. So we cleared off a lot of his tools on some of the lower racks and put them in lower racks. And I went through every bin too, like what's in this one? Do I need anything? And I'm curious. And maybe you guys know the answer to this too. But I found accordion files of like old paperwork, old checkbooks, pay stubs, paperwork, just, you know, tax stuff basically. One was from 2011, one's from 2013. I'm sure I have other years like that too. How long do you have to keep that shit?

Speaker 2:
[04:19] It used to be seven years. Like that was always like the wisdom, you know, that I learned in my 20s or whatever. But lately people are saying do 10 years.

Speaker 1:
[04:29] Okay, so either way, 2011, 2013, I can get like a-

Speaker 2:
[04:33] Yeah, you can shred those.

Speaker 1:
[04:34] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[04:35] And there's companies that'll come do it for you and come shred everything.

Speaker 1:
[04:38] Yeah, well, I'll need to go through, cause I know if I have 2011 and I have 2013, I have other years too. So I can wait till I get it all together and figure it out. And there might be things in there, like little contracts or something that I want to keep just because it's interesting to see all the details.

Speaker 2:
[04:52] Interesting facts, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[04:56] But yeah, so I went through all of that stuff, and it was just like a lot. It was a lot. But I had to do it, not only because I needed stuff for this podcast, but also for my book. Like I'm looking for everything. And that's the other thing I did. I went through every single day of our lives in that seven and a half years, and we were at the mansion pulling photos for the book. I wish I could have just like a huge section of photos, because I have so many photos I want to share.

Speaker 2:
[05:24] Well, just ask them what they're free to do. Because I've always felt like for you, because it's always a challenge when there's been so many books written about Playboy in that era already. Like even when I was selling my books, so many publishers were like, no, Kendra already told that story. And that was just one book. You know what I mean? I always thought it would be fun if yours was like a regular book, but had almost like an element of coffee table book to it.

Speaker 1:
[05:50] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[05:50] I mean, I don't know what the publisher would be comfortable doing, but I think that would be fun. Especially because you're the crafty one. I feel like if it was like really visual and cute, that would be a nice addition.

Speaker 1:
[06:02] That's what I've been doing. I'm pulling even like cute menus that we help plan for special events. Like I spend time on details like that in the book. I don't just say, oh, we had a pumpkin carving party. I'm like, we had a pumpkin carving party and we made this menu and this is what we had. Like spider web burgers or whatever. We called everything fun names and stuff. I actually print, recopy and put the menus in there for the different events that we got creative with or the peep teenies and stuff like that. Whether all those details stay and even the menus were printed cute sometimes, and stuff on cute paper or whatever. I think it'd be fun to put in little reproductions of those things.

Speaker 2:
[06:42] No, me too. I would love that.

Speaker 1:
[06:43] But we'll see. We'll see. I'm still in the whole manuscript era.

Speaker 2:
[06:47] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[06:48] And then I went to my grandma's birthday, which again, I'll tell you more details about on the slumber party. But 107, you guys.

Speaker 2:
[06:56] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[06:57] It's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[06:58] Breaking records.

Speaker 1:
[06:59] I know.

Speaker 2:
[06:59] Breaking records and breaking hearts. Have you ever seen that trend where people will be like, oh, my grandma was a heartbreaker back in the day, and then they show a picture when she was young and she was hot?

Speaker 1:
[07:10] No, I haven't seen that.

Speaker 2:
[07:11] People do that with their grandpas a lot, and it'll show what they look like now, and not to be mean, but it's just like you look and they're like, oh, there's no way. Then they come up with a picture and you're like, who was that in 1942?

Speaker 1:
[07:23] Wow. That's cool. That's funny. That's good though.

Speaker 2:
[07:28] So should we hop in our time machine and go back in time? We are talking about season five, episode eight, I think.

Speaker 1:
[07:40] I have seven down.

Speaker 2:
[07:42] It could be anything. I could be numbering these podcast episodes wrong. It could just be anything. So we're somewhere in season five. This episode is called Kentucky Fried. It's all about us going to the Kentucky Derby. This episode first aired on November 23rd, 2008. And in commentary, it kind of sounds like I haven't seen this episode yet.

Speaker 1:
[08:03] Oh, I don't. So it sounds like I have, which is weird because I feel like most of them I had not seen.

Speaker 2:
[08:09] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[08:10] But it makes sense. You're out of the mansion now. So unless you caught it in real time on E or one of the reruns, like you wouldn't have seen it. Because as you guys know, every Sunday, Hef would show an episode, the newest episode.

Speaker 2:
[08:24] And we would typically see like a rough cut way earlier, like months earlier, but maybe I didn't miss this one. Yeah. So back on November 23rd, 2008, the number one R&B song was Single Ladies by Beyonce and the number one movie was Twilight.

Speaker 1:
[08:38] Single Ladies goes back that far?

Speaker 2:
[08:40] Yeah. Well, that's what I felt like hearing, Single Ladies and Twilight. I feel like we're in another era. Like it feels so different from like 2005, when we started Girls Next Door.

Speaker 1:
[08:52] That's so funny. I have like a weird, that's interesting you say that, because that just made me have a weird memory, which doesn't mean too much for this, but I'll tell you guys anyway what it just brought to me. When the day Twilight premiered, the night Twilight premiered, I was excited for that to come out. And I remember I was in a hotel room for beaches and I was in San Diego when we were shooting La Jolla and all that kind of stuff. And I was so excited because I was able to watch the premiere. It's just one of those weird memories that you're like, I know exactly where I was when that happened.

Speaker 2:
[09:31] Brings you back to the time. And why did we go to the Kentucky Derby? Did the Hilberts invite us? Or what prompted us going to the Kentucky Derby?

Speaker 1:
[09:39] Gosh, I don't know. I thought the Barnstable Brown people invited us, but maybe not.

Speaker 2:
[09:44] Maybe they did. I feel like the Hilberts were the intermediaries maybe. So the Hilberts are this couple who was friends with Mary. They're super nice. And I know you see Tommy Sue Hilbert in this episode. So I feel like maybe that was the connection and they invited us and then half was like, oh, this could be a cool episode. And of course, it never occurred to me necessarily that I might go to the Kentucky Derby one day, but it was such an iconic thing. I was super excited about it.

Speaker 1:
[10:10] Yeah, I had never even thought about going to the Kentucky Derby. Like it just wasn't something even on my radar, but I love going to something that's a thing like the Super Bowl or like the Kentucky Derby or Mardi Gras or like, like I love those kinds of things. I'm like checking them off. Like maybe it's not my cup of tea or maybe it is, but like I love just like saying I did it and experiencing at least once. Yes, exactly. I would love to go to an Olympics once.

Speaker 2:
[10:37] Oh, that would be fun.

Speaker 1:
[10:38] Well, they're coming to LA. Yep.

Speaker 2:
[10:41] Get your tickets ready.

Speaker 1:
[10:42] Did you hear they were selling, doing like a, I don't know exactly, like a pre-list for selling like tickets? Like you know, jump on this other list and it like gets you pre onto when the tickets do come out or something.

Speaker 2:
[10:55] I hate the way things are sold these days. Like I don't buy a lot of like luxury bags anymore because I feel like I have quite the collection, but I was really excited when Dior came out with that one. That's like all green clovers. I was like, oh, I want that one. So I thought it was so cool. We were just having dinner at Wynn one night and I'm like, let's go to Dior. I want to get this bag. And I go in there and they're like, oh, it was like the day it was coming out. They're like, oh, it pre-sold already. And I'm like so over like pre-sale culture and these bullshit lists. And like, can't we just go to the store and buy something like the old days?

Speaker 1:
[11:29] I have two questions about that. One, how do you know like what designers are coming out with and like what's cute? Because I don't see any of that. And I know it's because I'd never buy anything like that.

Speaker 2:
[11:38] Oh, just social media, just things that will come up on my feed. They were posting about this coming out and it was so cute. It's like a little lady Dior bag with like little green shamrocks all over it and a tiny ladybug. It's so cute.

Speaker 1:
[11:51] See, I feel like something like that I would think is really cute and I might like actually because it's so themed, I might actually like want to buy something like that but like I never even knew that existed and I know I don't, I have one designer handbag, that's it.

Speaker 2:
[12:05] Clearly a lot of people did because they pre-ordered the fuck out of it.

Speaker 1:
[12:08] Yeah. But I'm just, I'm like, how do I open myself up to finding even like or like super cute shoes by like designers and stuff. Like I see some people and they, like usually when I go into the store, it's just your basic, there might be something different or whatever. But like then I see people walking around with like cutest ass shoes and they're so themed and cute. I'm like, what? I would have bought those where I didn't even know those existed.

Speaker 2:
[12:31] I think it's because you're not on social media very much. And maybe when you are, your algorithm just isn't curated toward that.

Speaker 1:
[12:38] Definitely not curated towards that. So I just have to start like poking in some of those things in my search and then I'll start popping up probably. All right, I'm going to do that.

Speaker 2:
[12:45] Or liking and sharing things of that genre. And then you'll get fed it like crazy.

Speaker 1:
[12:49] Yeah.

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Speaker 1:
[13:21] Because I want to see. I was like, are people still buying magazines? Do you see this stuff in Vogue? Where are we getting this information?

Speaker 2:
[13:28] Oh, God. Fashion magazines are just so not what they used to be. Back to the episode, we open up with some kind of circus music and some cute shots of the birds in the backyard. We go into your room. All three of us are in there, which is a refreshing site. You ask Kendra what she's doing today, and she says she's starting to clean her room. I wrote, this is such a refreshing scene, especially in this season, because I'm certain we were all told to come in there, so Hef can come in and tell us for the first time, quote unquote, that we're going to the Kentucky Derby. But it feels very organic, kind of, and especially season five where Kendra's pulling away so much and not wanting to do anything with us. This whole episode was refreshing because we're kind of like all three together and doing things together and having fun together. And it's just like a cute, like it feels like a throwback to season one or two, like we're just all in your room.

Speaker 1:
[14:19] Yeah, I was going to say that too, like I really liked this episode because I felt like it was sort of like the old ones. Like we're all, it's about all three of us and all three of us doing something together. Four of us, I guess you could say too, but like especially the three of us.

Speaker 2:
[14:34] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[14:34] Seems like everybody's getting along really well. There's, it just feels like the way the show was supposed to be in this episode.

Speaker 2:
[14:42] It really does. I'm just lounging on the floor while Kendra's ranting about her room and Hef comes in.

Speaker 1:
[14:48] You're lounging on the floor with Winnie.

Speaker 2:
[14:50] Yeah. And I don't want to like be, like I'm not trying to like be mean about his looks to be mean about his looks, but I'm pointing this out because I think it's just maybe indicative of a little bit of where he was at and then how that affected our relationship moving forward. But he walks in and I feel like he looks terrible. I feel like he looks years older out of the blue. I feel like he looks tired and grumpy and we're going to get kind of a grumpy moment behind the scenes in this episode, even though we're all in a great mood. And I just felt like when our relationship started to fall apart the last few months we were there, there were a lot of reasons I wanted out of the relationship, but also because he was getting grumpy out of nowhere. And just I don't know if there were pressures going on in his professional life that I just didn't know about because I was so buried in one part of it at the studio, or if it was aging, or sometimes some of the first signs of dementia are getting mean. But I can see it on him when he walks in the room. You know what I should do?

Speaker 1:
[15:52] I should look back at our schedules because I have most of them. And I can see if I have the one for that week, because I also notice as I've been going through the schedules for my book, that he is having a lot of procedures done too.

Speaker 2:
[16:06] Like what?

Speaker 1:
[16:07] Dental work.

Speaker 2:
[16:09] I remember going with him for MRIs and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:
[16:12] Yeah, I'll have to look at what the other things are. It's nothing major. There's nothing wrong, wrong. But he was getting dental implants put in, and that's a long, tedious thing happening. And so he would have to be fasting and not taking medication or all these different things. But you can see, and then having all this blood work done and seeing the nurse and seeing the this and the that. And there was a couple of other things, too, minor stuff that he was also getting done. But it just seemed like there was a lot of appointments and a lot of blood work and a lot of fasting and a lot of this and that.

Speaker 2:
[16:47] And for someone like him, that's gotta be a nightmare, just the fasting, the having to leave the house when you don't want to.

Speaker 1:
[16:54] Well, going downstairs and seeing the nurse, I think she came to the house and drew the blood. And then doctors appointment. Like there just seemed like a lot of that going on. Like every time I'm looking at the schedule, I'm like, oh, he's prepping for another procedure again, prepping for another. One was a colonoscopy. There was just like a bunch of things. And I know he was always dealing with like his PSA, the prostate account.

Speaker 2:
[17:19] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[17:19] You don't remember him? You'd always like every time his PSA came back normal, he'd be like so excited and tell us all about it.

Speaker 2:
[17:24] Yeah, I think I just like brushed it off. Because I was always so like, weirdly optimistic about him. I just thought he's going to live to be 100. And he's going to be like great up until the moment he dies, which is so like weird and unrealistic. And it's not really something I sat and consciously thought about. It was just kind of this underlying belief and assumption I had that he was like somehow superhuman. And because he was so active for his age at the age I met him, I'm like, oh, he's going to live to be 100, just like his mom. And he's going to be fine up until that last minute. I never thought I would be like bedside nurse. I was willing to do that, but I never thought I would actually have to do that.

Speaker 1:
[18:01] Yeah. Oh, I absolutely thought the same way too. But I also think that part of that longevity is doing all these appointments and taking care of your teeth and like doing these things, even though I know Hef doesn't want to do any of this stuff. I mean, nobody really does, you know, but like especially somebody like Hef, who doesn't leave the house for anything. So but it just seemed like there was a lot in this time period. It may just be that he's feeling a little, you know, maybe he just had a procedure like the day before or something. I also did see that he had a neck procedure with Dr. Ryan.

Speaker 2:
[18:36] Oh, that same doctor that did Patty?

Speaker 1:
[18:38] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[18:39] Why do I not remember that? I feel like that would have been a big deal.

Speaker 1:
[18:42] I do too, but I don't remember it at the mansion, but it's on the schedule.

Speaker 2:
[18:47] And it happened at the mansion?

Speaker 1:
[18:49] Well, not the surgery.

Speaker 2:
[18:50] Oh, you mean like us living there?

Speaker 1:
[18:52] Yeah, it happened while we were there.

Speaker 2:
[18:53] Why don't I remember that? It must have been like super minor.

Speaker 1:
[18:58] It must have been.

Speaker 2:
[18:59] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[18:59] I think it was probably just like a little pullback or something, which is crazy because I just don't, I don't remember him healing from that. I don't remember.

Speaker 2:
[19:06] Me either.

Speaker 1:
[19:07] Him like going in for that and waiting to see if there's going to be some big difference. And I feel like it was just like a thing. I don't know, maybe at that time, maybe I wasn't thinking of it as like a cosmetic thing. Maybe I just thought he was getting something done, like not even putting two and two together.

Speaker 2:
[19:22] Or do you think it could have been on the schedule and he like canceled at the last minute? Cause I feel like if he had a plastic surgery when I was there, there's no way I wouldn't have like known about it.

Speaker 1:
[19:31] It's possible he canceled, but it is on there.

Speaker 2:
[19:35] So he walks in, he says, how would you guys like to go to the Kentucky Derby? He tells us we're invited to the Barnes-Stable Brown Celebrity Gala, which is the big Kentucky Derby party that happens every year. And I'm kicking my leg way up in the air and it looks like Hef is like hypnotized by like, cause my leg is up by like my crotch area. I don't think that's what it is, but the way they cut it, it's funny. Cause like I kick up my leg and he just goes for a second before like moving on. It's just like a funny moment. And then he tells us there was once a horse named Hugh Hefner in the Kentucky Derby and they show a clip of it. And he says there were just all these funny things they were saying like Hugh Hefner's coming up in the rear and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:
[20:15] Yeah, it's funny. And of course, the first thing I'm excited is we get to get big hats. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[20:22] So the next scene is they cut to a Beverly Hills hat boutique. And how is it pronounced? Is it Ariani or Arianne? The hat store?

Speaker 1:
[20:30] I thought it was Arians. But I don't really, I'm not positive. A couple of things I wanted to say that we did in commentary too. One, Kendra says she ordered fried chicken while she was there. And it came with the nasty brown mustard.

Speaker 2:
[20:47] Oh my god, that's funny.

Speaker 1:
[20:49] And I talk about the French's mustard thing that I want to do.

Speaker 2:
[20:55] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[20:56] Way back then. I didn't know I mentioned the commercial idea back. I didn't know I had it that long ago. Like I've always thought it, but I didn't know I thought it way back then. And then Kendra keeps going on and on and on in this episode about how much she loves Kentucky, which I thought was very strange. Not that I didn't like Kentucky. I thought it was great. Been back a few times since. I have nothing against Kentucky, but she just keeps going on. I love, I love Kentucky. I love, oh my God, you guys, I love Kentucky so much. Kentucky, oh, that's my favorite place. Like going on and I-

Speaker 2:
[21:29] Interesting.

Speaker 1:
[21:30] I feel like it's really interesting. And so I was just curious to if you liked it and if you've been back since.

Speaker 2:
[21:39] I've not been back. I haven't had occasion to be back, but I had a great experience going, but I felt like we didn't see much outside of what we did. So I can't really comment on Kentucky in general.

Speaker 1:
[21:50] Yeah. I've been back twice to Kentucky, but like they were for like a club appearance type thing.

Speaker 2:
[21:58] Oh, so you're really just in and out.

Speaker 1:
[22:00] Yeah. One of the times I was in Louisville doing a club appearance the next morning with actually Crystal McKay Hill.

Speaker 2:
[22:08] Oh, fine.

Speaker 1:
[22:09] And there was a group of playmates there. I forget who was all there. But the next, I set my alarm and the next morning, I woke up to the phone ringing in my room. And they're like, your driver's waiting for you. Take you to the airport. My alarm didn't go off. I accidentally said, PM.

Speaker 2:
[22:24] Oh God. That's one of the reasons I do military time on my phone.

Speaker 1:
[22:28] And I had 10 minutes to throw all my shit in my bag. I go, tell them I'm coming, tell them I'm coming. And I was like, oh my God. I never left so fast. And I was like, mildly hung over. And it was like, and you're rushing. And it was like awful, awful, awful. Nothing to do with Kentucky, just. But I've had a good time in Kentucky every time I've been there. And I want to go back. I want to do this whole thing again.

Speaker 2:
[22:58] Are there any haunted destinations in Kentucky you want to go to?

Speaker 1:
[23:01] 100% the number one place on my bucket list.

Speaker 2:
[23:05] What is it?

Speaker 1:
[23:05] Waverly Hills.

Speaker 2:
[23:08] OK, I get Waverly Hills mixed up with the Creeper Place. What's the Creeper Place?

Speaker 1:
[23:12] That is the Creeper Place.

Speaker 2:
[23:13] Wait, you've never been to the Creeper Place?

Speaker 1:
[23:14] No.

Speaker 2:
[23:15] I think I feel like you have because you've interviewed so many people from there.

Speaker 1:
[23:19] And any time they have Waverly Hills on their list, I'm always like, I need to know what was your experience like and did you see the Creeper?

Speaker 2:
[23:25] Oh, well, next week on this podcast, I'm going to ask you what your bucket list is. Is that on it?

Speaker 1:
[23:31] Absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[23:32] You have to go.

Speaker 1:
[23:34] Yeah, I always say if I ever go back to Kentucky again, I'm for sure doing that.

Speaker 2:
[23:39] I think you need to make a point. I think for how much you're into paranormal, you just need to make a point of planning the trip.

Speaker 1:
[23:44] Yeah. And then I talk about also how hard this episode is for me to watch. I have like very, very mixed feelings about this episode.

Speaker 2:
[23:54] Oh, tell me more.

Speaker 1:
[23:55] I love it for all the reasons we talked about at the beginning. But I don't like it for what happens at the end that we're gonna get into. And I was really upset because they didn't acknowledge it at all in this episode.

Speaker 2:
[24:11] In the beginning.

Speaker 1:
[24:12] Well, they didn't at all.

Speaker 2:
[24:14] They had to do like an addendum way after the fact.

Speaker 1:
[24:16] On the DVD. But it wasn't in the real episode. And I was adamant from the moment that they do something about it. And we'll get to it. I'm not trying to be like too secretive about it, I just don't want to spoil it before we get to it. But I was so pissed that they didn't do it. And Kendra was talking about in commentary how a lot of the fans were pissed too, that nothing was said. And so I think that's why he ended up adding it on the DVDs. But to me, when the DVDs come out, like however a year later or whatever, that's too late.

Speaker 2:
[24:48] Right.

Speaker 1:
[24:48] Like that's not okay.

Speaker 2:
[24:50] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[24:50] And you should have done it in the time. So we'll get to it though. So yeah, we're in the hat store.

Speaker 2:
[24:55] And this is very cute because like you and Kendra are just doing a cute scene together. When was the, nobody's gonna know. When was the last time you and Kendra did a scene together?

Speaker 1:
[25:06] Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[25:06] Has it ever, I'm sure it's happened at some point, but what the fuck was it? And it's just such a nice scene because like we've been complaining about like over the episodes, like she just wanted nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1:
[25:19] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[25:19] Which in some cases was fine. Like in the moment, I was glad she didn't go on the 55th search with us because I just knew it wouldn't be her thing and she'd probably ruin it for everybody. But it is nice to see you guys together in a scene.

Speaker 1:
[25:34] Yeah. Well, the reason this happened too is because obviously we have to get hats and she just wasn't even sure where to begin to get a hat like this and or what to get or whatever. So I told her, let's go, I'll go with you. There's this place on Melrose that does hats. So they gave us permission to film there. So we went there and we were basically looking for hats for her because well, maybe this is a good time to ask you, how did you come up with your outfit idea?

Speaker 2:
[25:59] Oh, okay. So the reason I did not go hat shopping with you guys is I already knew from the minute somebody said we're going to the Kentucky Derby, what my hat was going to be. Because like I said before, like I never thought I would necessarily go. But when I think of the Kentucky Derby, I had seen some kind of travel show years prior. It was probably like a Samantha Brown or something. I want to collab with her. I feel like I need to collab with her because I talk about all the time. But so I'd seen some old travel show and they were talking about like Kentucky Derby and everything people do for the Derby and getting ready. And there's a hat contest. And they were showing people who entered the hat contest. And there was this woman who had a hat. And on the brim of her hat, there was like a windmill and little horses. And I was like, that is the extra hat that I need. And I like My Little Ponies were my favorite growing up. So I knew I was going to make a hat with like tiny My Little Ponies on it. And I just knew immediately. So I did not need to go hat shopping.

Speaker 1:
[26:57] I didn't need to go hat shopping either because I knew I was going to have mine custom made to put the outfit. But I just went with Kendra to help her find a hat and to do the scene with her and stuff. My outfit, well, how did you figure out like your color scheme and stuff like that in your dress?

Speaker 2:
[27:13] Well, I think I was, I went and found like a wide brimmed hat, wanted a white one. There probably weren't a lot of colors out there. So I picked the white one, picked the My Little Ponies, I thought pink was cute. And then I had this dress made, I don't know if like, I think Trashy made it, but it was based on this other dress I have that was like, I think it was like a Jessica McClintock like prom dress or something. But it's exactly like this. But instead of like pink lace, it's black lace. But I'm like, I want one like this, but like pink to match the hat.

Speaker 1:
[27:42] For me, a couple of months earlier, like in March or so, I found these shoes. I was just like, and they were so pretty. They were yellow with like pink roses and greenery on them, all over them, little peep toe. And they are Betsy Johnson. And I fell in love with the shoes, but they're very specific. It's such a color. I had nothing to wear them with for the longest time. So when May roll, or actually probably April rolls around a month later, and we're going to the Kentucky Derby, I was like, I'm going to have a dress made that goes with those. I want to wear those shoes to the Kentucky Derby. So I'm going to have a dress made and a hat made that go with those shoes. And I wanted to wear those shoes here today, but they are in my storage here in LA, in a box I can't get to. But I have a funny story about those shoes. So years later, years later, so like a few years ago, I forget where I was, but I was backstage at an event and Betsy Johnson was having a fashion show there. So I'm backstage with Betsy Johnson. And I'm, of course, a huge fan of hers. And I'm talking to her and I knew she was going to be there. So I wore those shoes. I have other Betsy Johnson shoes too, but they're just my favorite ones. And I wore those shoes and I went up to her and I was talking to her and I was like, oh, by the way, and I wore these shoes and she looked at them and she was like, those are so old. And it was a little bit like weird. Like I felt a little uncomfortable. Like she thought like they were too old to be wearing, like not in style anymore.

Speaker 2:
[29:16] That's so weird. You'd think she'd be like so excited that you have like these vintage shoes. Like, oh, you remember that collection from blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1:
[29:23] But then later, or just recently, not even later, just recently, I just saw an interview with her and she's all about like, oh, like her closet is all stuff from like the 90s and early 2000s and stuff, and she's all about that. So I don't know if I just.

Speaker 2:
[29:39] Maybe it was just one of those weird things where like in real time, you don't know what to say.

Speaker 1:
[29:43] Maybe, or maybe I just read it wrong because I don't know her very well or whatever. But so maybe I just like misunderstood her tone or something. But I was like, oh, but I felt embarrassed that I was wearing like super old shoes.

Speaker 2:
[29:55] That's interesting to know the shoes came first because later when you put them on in this episode, I was like, damn, those match perfectly. Where'd you find those?

Speaker 1:
[30:01] Yeah, but I had a dress mishap. I went to Trashy and I brought the shoes and I'm like, I need a dress that matches this and I want like, I want the big bow on the back, which I got and the hat that matches. And they're like, okay. So then I go back to pick up the dress and this is like almost the last minute, like a few days before we're meant to leave. It was completely wrong. The dress was this, it was, I know we've had a thing about this before, chartreuse. And some people think it's a pink, but it is not. It is a green, yellow, I think of booger color. And I don't like that color at all. And they made the dress that color. Weird. And I freaked out and they were like, well, you said to match the shoes and that matches this. I'm like, this is a yellow in the shoes, not that. And at first they didn't want to fix it for me. And then I think Dot, I think it was Dot, it was either Dot or Edie was like, no, we have to do this over. Like it's clearly wrong. Like what? And so then they did it with this yellow. And I actually like the inside yellow better than this outside yellow.

Speaker 2:
[31:07] Inside yellow is really pretty.

Speaker 1:
[31:08] I know. I wanted butter. Yes. I wanted this color.

Speaker 2:
[31:12] Oh.

Speaker 1:
[31:13] But I got this color. And I, so I picked it up and I was like, I still didn't love it, but I was, but now I got to go. Like it's, it's time.

Speaker 2:
[31:23] Zero hour. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[31:24] I can't change it anymore.

Speaker 2:
[31:25] I think it's cute. Cause it's like so bright. And like, if you're going to go do the Kentucky Derby, you might as well be bold.

Speaker 1:
[31:30] Yeah. But just so you guys know, it was supposed to be like more like this color and the hat too. But anyway, so I had like a little dress mishap. I feel like a whole like thing mishap.

Speaker 2:
[31:41] Oh, well I couldn't tell cause I thought it was fun and cute.

Speaker 1:
[31:45] And then they made a custom petticoat for it too. That was the hot pink. And for some reason it wasn't with the dress. So I'm wearing a different petticoat underneath it today, but I only mentioned that because you'll see the petticoat in the scene coming up, and this is clearly not the one.

Speaker 2:
[32:01] Kendra brought her dress in her purse to try to match it at the store.

Speaker 1:
[32:05] So weird because our purse isn't even that big. And she's like, I brought my dress and I'm thinking, how could she have brought her dress?

Speaker 2:
[32:10] It's like the Mary Poppins bag. You're just bringing stuff out of it.

Speaker 1:
[32:13] And she pulls it out. And obviously the dress is small and it's one of those little bandage dresses and stuff. But still it seemed like it would never fit in her small handbag.

Speaker 2:
[32:23] You guys try on some really funny little fascinator hats. And there's one Kendra puts on that I love. It reminds me of a little orange beehive.

Speaker 1:
[32:30] Oh, is it the...

Speaker 2:
[32:31] It looks like a literal beehive kind of a little hat.

Speaker 1:
[32:33] The yellow pink one?

Speaker 2:
[32:34] That one I like too, but it was like orange and it looks like a swirly beehive.

Speaker 1:
[32:39] Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:
[32:40] It's so cute.

Speaker 1:
[32:41] That, I want to say that was, we had a lot of fun doing that.

Speaker 2:
[32:44] You know what's funny? It reminds me of the wig scene from the last episode, except this actually fits the theme of the episode. And I think it's giving Kevin a little bit of the shopping spree he always wanted.

Speaker 1:
[32:55] Oh yeah, definitely. But it was really fun trying on all the hats, even though I knew I wasn't really going to get one from there.

Speaker 2:
[33:01] Because they do have cute, funny hats that are fun to look at.

Speaker 1:
[33:04] And they custom make stuff too. So if you want something specific, I feel like if I remember right, Kendra was doing this last minute. Shocker.

Speaker 2:
[33:14] Are we surprised?

Speaker 1:
[33:16] And I don't think, they did redo the hat in a bigger size, the ones she picked, but I think it was too late to create a full new custom hat. But they do do that there.

Speaker 2:
[33:27] Nice. I like that. Good to know.

Speaker 1:
[33:30] And then Kendra says like 800 times in this episode, how big her head is. And I think we've heard this before with like the helmets for things.

Speaker 2:
[33:39] I wonder if she really has a big head or just a lot of hair because she does have really thick hair.

Speaker 1:
[33:44] Yeah. I don't know. But they're measuring it.

Speaker 2:
[33:49] And you know what they cut from the last hat they show looks a little like a brown like a pea hen like a peacock that the girl peacock. Yeah. And then they cut to the peacocks at the mansion.

Speaker 1:
[33:59] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[34:00] I wonder if that was on purpose. For sure.

Speaker 1:
[34:02] For sure. That was on purpose. But that hat I thought was so cool at the time. Like I was like, this one's cool. And I say it in commentary. You're like, then why didn't you get it? And I'm like, because it was like a thousand dollars. And I didn't like have something I wanted to. It wasn't going to be go with my outfit. But yeah. Yeah. So that's funny. And then I was asking to like, what comes first when you're trying to like pick your Kentucky Derby outfit? Do you start with the hat and then find an outfit that goes with it? Do you find an outfit, then find the hat? Or in my case, I found the shoes and then create the outfit. Like I wonder what's supposed to come first.

Speaker 2:
[34:35] Right. I wonder.

Speaker 1:
[34:36] Or not supposed to, because obviously you can do it however you want. But like, what do most people do? You're going to the Kentucky Derby. Do you find that hat or find the outfit and then find a hat?

Speaker 2:
[34:46] Yeah. People that go every year, I wonder, what do they do?

Speaker 1:
[34:49] Yeah. Or even people, I know people just have...

Speaker 2:
[34:50] Your custom mix and match.

Speaker 1:
[34:51] Kentucky Derby parties at home too, and do the whole hat thing and stuff. So I'm just curious what most people do.

Speaker 2:
[34:59] So it cuts back to the mansion. I'm in the dining room with Juliana and Sarah. And Juliana's like playing with the little, my little ponies I got. And she goes, they're going to take a shit. And she's like, you need to put some whoppers behind them on the hat.

Speaker 1:
[35:15] Whoppers would be too big for those ponies. You need like little raisin heads or something.

Speaker 2:
[35:20] Eww, raisin heads, do it like a turd.

Speaker 1:
[35:22] Chocolate sicklets, sicklets, sicklets. How do you say that word? Sicklets.

Speaker 2:
[35:27] So, so excited when I made this hat because it was just exactly what I pictured. I went and try it on and I bring it back to the girls, show them and then they do a funny animation of like me in my bedroom, like on a hobby horse wearing the hat. And this is why I think I have not seen this episode yet, or maybe just not the finished product. As in commentary, I freak out over that animation. I'm like, oh my God, I've never seen that.

Speaker 1:
[35:49] Yeah. Sarah looks like she's not convinced. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[35:53] She's like, oh, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[35:55] Okay, I wouldn't wear it, but.

Speaker 2:
[35:59] So the next shot is us getting on the private plane to Kentucky and we're on the stairs up to the plane and we're posing for a picture. And that picture, the way we're posed, it looks so cute. And just the fact that we have no pictures from the Kentucky Derby, I'm so bummed. And you can see Huff's photographer, Elaine, in this episode a lot, which is weird because she hated to be on camera. And she didn't typically travel with us either. It was usually like another photographer, like she did sometimes. So I'm like, and around this time, like we've been saying this for a while, she was kind of like piecing out and not doing as much.

Speaker 1:
[36:35] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:35] So I'm like, well, she's back with a vengeance and just on camera. Like this is weird, but we never got any of those pictures. So it's a bummer.

Speaker 1:
[36:42] I think she just had to come with for some reason, like have obviously wants pictures of this and have it photographed.

Speaker 2:
[36:47] Maybe nobody else was available.

Speaker 1:
[36:48] Yeah. And I feel like it was just maybe a timing thing. Cause I feel like if she could have had somebody else do it, she would have.

Speaker 2:
[36:55] James was hired by Playboy to be at the Playboy party with us and gave me some pictures from that. So I have a photobook for you coming, but it's not very many pictures. So it doesn't even take up a full photobook. So there's all these blank pages in the back, but you could like put stuff, put stickers or whatever.

Speaker 1:
[37:11] Yeah, yeah, it's a real bummer because stickers.

Speaker 2:
[37:15] What the fuck can I talk about? I meant like pictures or like whatever. I'm like, who's collecting stickers at our ripe old age?

Speaker 1:
[37:21] I know, I was thinking it too, but I was like, okay, well, maybe she put stickers. You know what? Somewhere that just reminded me somewhere in my mess at my parents, I shouldn't say my grandparents, my parents' house, I have this giant bin full of Mrs. Grossman stickers.

Speaker 2:
[37:39] Are those like, what stickers are those?

Speaker 1:
[37:41] Mrs. Grossman, it's like a thing.

Speaker 2:
[37:44] I'd probably recognize them if I saw them.

Speaker 1:
[37:45] You would recognize their style.

Speaker 2:
[37:46] Stickers were such a thing for kids in the 80s. And sometimes I'll see like a retro TikTok of somebody like opening their old sticker book and it's like the same sticker book I had with like the same stickers. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[37:58] And it just brings it back. I guarantee you they were Mrs. Grossman.

Speaker 2:
[38:02] Were they the like scratch and sniff ones? No. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[38:05] No.

Speaker 2:
[38:05] Were they just like cute little things, like a big one that like my cousin had and me and my sister had was called Dress the Bride and it was like a bride and you put like all her clothes on her.

Speaker 1:
[38:15] I think that's Mrs. Grossman.

Speaker 2:
[38:16] Yeah. So I'm picturing.

Speaker 1:
[38:17] Yeah. And the Mrs. Grossman sticker factory was close to where I grew up. And so I've done like tours on how the stickers are made and you can go buy a bunch of stickers. I have like piles of stickers. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[38:30] That was such an 80s kid experience that I don't think translated to future generations. My kids like sometimes they'll get handed a sticker at certain things, but they're not into stickers and never were in the same way. I think, I don't know, I guess like in the 90s, like kids got Pokemon cards and pogs and then like stickers aren't a thing anymore.

Speaker 1:
[38:50] Yeah. But it was a huge thing.

Speaker 2:
[38:52] A big deal.

Speaker 1:
[38:53] And also I was doing scrapbooking before coming to the mansion. And in that era of scrapbooking, stickers were huge. Like you didn't have a page without stickers all over it. And they have all the cute ones like Paris or I love New York. You can travel ones and stuff like campfire ones.

Speaker 2:
[39:13] Yeah. And even like trading cards in the 80s for kids were stickers. Like garbage pail kids were also stickers. Like you could peel it off the card. So interesting.

Speaker 1:
[39:23] What was your garbage pail kid?

Speaker 2:
[39:25] My personal one?

Speaker 1:
[39:26] Well, like what was Holly?

Speaker 2:
[39:28] Oh, there was Holly Wood, which was a wooden doll that was getting like woodpecked to death.

Speaker 1:
[39:34] Oh.

Speaker 2:
[39:34] I think there were a couple of different Hollies, but that was the one I remember.

Speaker 1:
[39:39] It's interesting. There's a Bridget one and it's a bride of Frankenstein.

Speaker 2:
[39:42] Oh, that's cute.

Speaker 1:
[39:43] Yeah. Bridget Bride.

Speaker 2:
[39:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:44] I think it is something like that. And then there's Bridget the Midget, I think. I think that's the one. And then there's one other Bridget one. I got all three of them.

Speaker 2:
[39:54] Interesting. There was one that was a Playboy bunny. It was called Arm Pit Brit. It was a Cabbage Patch doll in a Playboy bunny outfit. And she's holding up a tray and she has armpit hair that's yarn, like a Cabbage Patch.

Speaker 1:
[40:05] Yeah. That's funny.

Speaker 2:
[40:06] How did Garbage Pail kids get away with that? How did Cabbage Patch kids not sue? Because they looked exactly like Cabbage Patch kids.

Speaker 1:
[40:13] Yeah. Well, I guess because you can do a parody or a pun.

Speaker 2:
[40:16] But that's an extended parody that they're making a lot of money on, I feel.

Speaker 1:
[40:21] Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[40:22] And potentially brand damaging because the Garbage Pail kids are like gross and very politically incorrect. Cabbage Patch kids are like a family toy. Especially back then. I feel like you can get away with stuff like that more now. But back then, I'm just surprised that they were allowed to continue.

Speaker 1:
[40:39] Yeah. So interesting. Did you have a Cabbage Patch kid?

Speaker 2:
[40:43] Definitely not in the early days when they were super popular because we just didn't have access to that. So we had off-brand ones called Flower Kids and stuff like that. But when I was a little bit older, after the craze was over, I got one and her name was Flora Florence and she was very cute.

Speaker 1:
[41:01] I was obsessed and it was impossible to get one and whatever. Then somebody had an extra one and my mom got it for me for Christmas and I was super excited. But she wasn't exactly the style I wanted. I wanted one with the big pigtails.

Speaker 2:
[41:16] You couldn't pick because you were adopting them. So you would order a Cabbage Patch kid from the catalog, and it would be like you could ask for a girl or you could ask for a boy, but you didn't know what you were going to get. I think you could ask for skin color too because I had a black one and I specifically wanted the black one because in the catalog, they had a picture of a bunch of them and the black one was the cutest.

Speaker 1:
[41:37] Well, we had them in the store. It's just they were all picked up.

Speaker 2:
[41:42] I was on an island somewhere.

Speaker 1:
[41:43] Sorry.

Speaker 2:
[41:43] I forgot that real life existed.

Speaker 1:
[41:45] So if you got there and there were some you could obviously pick.

Speaker 2:
[41:51] You couldn't if you were ordering though from the catalog, you couldn't pick.

Speaker 1:
[41:53] Well, you couldn't really pick in real life either because they would go so fast and people were like literally fighting over these things, you guys. But somebody in our family had somebody who had an extra one and my parents bought it from them. I still have her to this day. Her name was Josie Jacqueline and she had short blonde hair. She was cute, nothing wrong with her or whatever, but I really wanted one with the pigtails. And later I bought myself one with the pigtails. And then I was really obsessed to with wanting a preemie one.

Speaker 2:
[42:24] Oh, I remember when the preemies came out, those were a thing, they were so tiny.

Speaker 1:
[42:28] Yes, and they smell so good. Like I can smell my cabbage patch kid right now.

Speaker 2:
[42:33] My sister had a preemie and when we would go like on road trips with our family, we would like hide in the back seat and we'd stick the preemie in the window and make it wave at people. And it sounds so fucking dumb, but people got the biggest kick out of it. Like people would like freak out, because this was like back in the day, like we were just not entertained the way we are now. Like anything was novel, anything was fun and like people would love seeing like the waving Cabbage Trash Kid.

Speaker 1:
[42:57] Well, think about it. You're on a road trip and you guys, this is before podcasts. This is before even like phones. Oh, definitely before phones. But like a lot of times, like radio stations didn't even come in if you were in certain areas.

Speaker 2:
[43:08] We used to listen. I don't know how my parents did it because like when we would come down like once a year, whatever from Alaska, we would do like a road trip, go visit family. We would listen. They would have cassette tapes of like kid music, like really stupid Disney songs, like not even the Disney songs from the movie, but just like Donald Duck singing something stupid.

Speaker 1:
[43:26] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[43:27] And listen to it over. I don't know how they did it. Because if like if I'm on a long road trip with my kids, like sometimes it's hard if they want to pick the music. I'm like, okay, I'm the one driving, but I'm gonna let them pick the music. And it's annoying to me even though they have like, they can go through my phone and like look up like any music they want. I don't know how my parents did it. Cause it was the same Donald Duck tape for like...

Speaker 1:
[43:51] Oh my God. Yeah. So that would be it. I feel like what I was gonna say is that would be entertaining to see that like something interesting to see on the road.

Speaker 2:
[43:59] Oh yeah. Or like those stupid Garfield dolls that people would have stuck to the window. Like we thought it was so cool to like spot one of those.

Speaker 1:
[44:06] Yeah. Did you play the games too? Like Slug Bug or like how many different states you see the license plates from and stuff like that? Yeah. All right. So we are getting on the plane and they don't show it, but there is somebody else on our flight with us. Because I think the Kentucky Derby or the Barn Stable Brown party probably is the one who sent the jet for us. So there's somebody else, we are sharing it with an actor who didn't want to be on camera.

Speaker 2:
[44:38] I don't remember this.

Speaker 1:
[44:40] Who was it?

Speaker 2:
[44:41] I don't?

Speaker 1:
[44:41] Am I not supposed to say? Why are you looking at me?

Speaker 2:
[44:43] No, say it. I just don't remember.

Speaker 1:
[44:45] Ed Norton was on our flight with us. He was very nice, but he didn't want to be on our TV show. I'm a stalker. Then in commentary, Kendra is talking about how she has such a crush on him.

Speaker 2:
[45:00] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:00] Which is interesting. Because he does not seem like her type at all. What I liked about this too, is it actually shows a little bit of the playing time. It shows in the cockpit a little bit. It shows Mary and Kendra confused about how to put their seatbelts on.

Speaker 2:
[45:19] I'm reading a giant book. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1:
[45:23] You and I reading. It looks like I'm doing homework, but later in commentary, I said I was actually reading the Rough of the Girls Next Door book.

Speaker 2:
[45:31] Oh.

Speaker 1:
[45:32] So going through-

Speaker 2:
[45:33] We're doing our coffee table book around this time. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:36] Any edits that I wanted or whatever. I don't know. And it shows Hef and Keith are playing cards. And I just feel like it's kind of interesting to see what people were doing, where people were sitting, what is it like when you're doing that. And I don't think it was a super long flight. It's not like going to Europe or anything like that. I think it was like-

Speaker 2:
[45:55] It was like four or five hours.

Speaker 1:
[45:56] Yeah. I would say it was like four hours or something. So yeah. So then the Bluegrass music is playing. And-

Speaker 2:
[46:06] We arrive in Louisville and it's rainy.

Speaker 1:
[46:08] Yes. I kind of forgot that it was so rainy that first day, but it was really rainy. And you say you have a new state- they show the state sign with the state motto, but you said, did you hear they have a new state motto?

Speaker 2:
[46:20] Kentucky, wanna? Which is like what we would say every time we played Monopoly and somebody would land on Kentucky.

Speaker 1:
[46:27] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[46:27] And I feel like Hef's not really amused. So we are driving to the hotel in a very 2000s Hummer limo. We're staying at the Galt House Hotel. And I remember when we did the red carpet for the Kentucky Derby, Billy Bush, our favorite interviewer of the era, interviewed us. And he goes, so where are you guys staying? And I go, oh, we're staying at the Galt House. Keep in mind that we had already checked out of the hotel because Hef wanted to hop in the plane on the way out.

Speaker 1:
[46:52] You guys, we had to be packed up before we even left for the Derby because the second the Derby was over, and I mean the second the Derby was over, we whipped into the limo and we're already on the way to the, we were probably at the airport before most people were even leaving the Derby.

Speaker 2:
[47:06] Totally. So we'd already checked out, but even if we hadn't already checked out, like we have security, it's a very secure hotel, like I wouldn't really care if people know where we're staying for one more night. So I said, oh, we're staying at the Galt House Hotel, and Billy was like, you just set on national television where you're staying as if I'm so stupid and just like breached security for everyone. I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[47:29] Well, then why are you asking that question if nobody should answer it?

Speaker 2:
[47:32] Yeah, are you trying to put people in danger?

Speaker 1:
[47:34] Yeah, like Tony Husket.

Speaker 2:
[47:38] In commentary, you say, I don't like interviewing with him because we're talking about Billy Bush and that thing. I say, oh, a month ago I did an interview with him and it went well. I don't know what I mean by that because I know that interview. I interviewed with him after I announced I'd left the mansion, but I wasn't quite out yet. This is probably in early November or something like that. He was just hammering me home like, well, how many times did you have sex with half a year ago as a chip? I go, I don't remember because honestly, I was with the guy for seven years. How are you supposed to know how many times? Not only that, but I'm fully dating someone else at this time, so it's not even a respectful question for me to answer. He goes, no, how many times did you have sex with a member? I don't remember. He asked me it over and over and I just kept saying, I don't remember.

Speaker 1:
[48:25] How are you supposed to know a number of how many times you slept with somebody in seven and a half years?

Speaker 2:
[48:29] Why is it a relevant question?

Speaker 1:
[48:31] Why is it anybody's business period?

Speaker 2:
[48:33] It's so weird.

Speaker 1:
[48:35] So I wouldn't say that was a positive interview.

Speaker 2:
[48:37] Yeah. I don't know why in commentary I'm saying it went well. I feel like maybe I meant I handled it well because I was just like feet in the ground. Like I don't remember.

Speaker 1:
[48:46] I don't remember, but. So you guys, this was quite an experience too. We get out of the limo and there's just a million. So everybody, and it's a weird question for him to ask too because everybody knows that everyone's staying here because there's a huge crowd out front and they have security all around. And I think everybody is pretty much staying at the same hotel and people are screaming and going crazy. And then I walk in the door and then I realize, oh, I need to wait here for everybody because as soon as we all get out of the limo and we go walking in, there is a line of women in the hats. And they're all clapping and welcoming us to the Galt House and to the Kentucky Derby. And they have, and I don't know if they do this to everyone or if they were doing this because we had the show or it's Hef's first time or what, but like it was so incredible. And then they had mint juleps ready for us on a tray. And so the second we walked through the door, like they barely let Mary and security and PR in before they were like, you know, handing us mint juleps. So it was quite the entrance with all the fans outside screaming and then coming in to all the ladies clapping and the hats and a beautiful hotel and mint juleps. So it was amazing.

Speaker 2:
[50:05] It reminds me, what talk show does that? Is it like Jennifer Hudson where they have the people lined up and the guest comes in and they're like clapping and doing a little song for them?

Speaker 1:
[50:12] I don't know it.

Speaker 2:
[50:13] Yeah, one of the talk shows does that. And then like the celebrity kind of like walks down the aisle and dances around. And every time I see it, like it's cute for everybody else. Like I'm not hating on it in any way, but every time I see it, I'm like, I would die. Like I would just be, I couldn't do it. Not that I think it's bad if anybody else does it, but I just like, if I had to like walk down this line while already singing a song about me, I couldn't do it.

Speaker 1:
[50:41] Oh my God. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[50:46] So they handed us the mint juleps, and I was very surprised at what a real mint julep tastes like. Because when I always thought of mint juleps my entire life, I think of the Disneyland version, which is like bright green, super minty, basically Kool-Aid, and then a real mint julep is like bourbon with a mint leaf or something. It's like it's a strong drink. It will put some hair on your chest.

Speaker 1:
[51:10] Definitely.

Speaker 2:
[51:12] So we get into our rooms, and you can see this in the deleted scene, but it's something I have a fond memory of as well. They had these really nice hat box, gift boxes for us, and they had Hypnotic in it, of course, the drink of the 2000s. And they had these really plush pink, Galt House Hotel robes. It was just really cute bunny slippers.

Speaker 1:
[51:33] I was so excited about those.

Speaker 2:
[51:34] Yeah. They really welcomed us so nicely, and it was such a great experience.

Speaker 1:
[51:40] It was. It was amazing.

Speaker 2:
[51:41] And it was a cute hotel. Didn't they have a hat store in the hotel?

Speaker 1:
[51:45] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[51:46] And they had this cool glass elevator in the lobby, another deleted scene. I'm like mooning people from the glass elevator. And it was cute. I would love to, if I went back to Louisville, stay in that hotel again. It was really cute.

Speaker 1:
[51:56] For sure. Like, I want to do the whole experience again.

Speaker 2:
[52:01] And then we're getting ready for the Barn Stable Brown Gala. And it's interesting because we're all wearing metallic dresses, and I don't think we planned that.

Speaker 1:
[52:09] Yeah. I don't think we did either.

Speaker 2:
[52:11] It was so weird. Not so weird that you and I are on the same page, but it's so weird how many times me, you and Kendra would just be on the same page for things without even discussing it.

Speaker 1:
[52:19] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[52:20] It's funny too, because I feel like if we did discuss it ahead of time, Kendra would be like, fuck no, I'm not doing it. I don't want to wear it. But then we would naturally do it without trying, which is funny.

Speaker 1:
[52:31] Yeah. So you're helping Hef with his bow tie, Kendra's out on the balcony, I'm putting on eyelashes. And I thought there was a nice moment with you and Hef here, he tells you how gorgeous your dress is.

Speaker 2:
[52:43] Yes, I thought that was really nice too, because I didn't get complimented on outfits a lot from him. And when I did, I would keep that outfit in rotation, because every once in a while it would happen. But I do love that dress. I still have it. I wore it for so many things. I keep pulling it back out for photo shoots and stuff like that. It's just a very like liquidy material, silver backless dress.

Speaker 1:
[53:07] Yeah, it's beautiful. So in an interview, you say, we are going to the Barnstable Brown Gala, which is supposed to be the biggest Kentucky Derby party ever. And this is a memory that sticks with me. We pull up in the limo and you guys, it's raining and it's been raining all day. And there are, and I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say thousands of people, not just hundreds, there's like thousands of people.

Speaker 2:
[53:38] Just waiting to see who walks in.

Speaker 1:
[53:40] They know that this like little area, I couldn't even see what was going on. So I don't know if it's like a little cul-de-sac where this house is or just like how they do this, but there are just so many people, so many people and we get out and everyone is just screaming and losing their mind and calling us by name. And it was like, holy shit. It was one of those few times where I felt like, oh my God, everybody knows who we are. And I feel fully confused about it.

Speaker 2:
[54:12] Right, like I say in commentary even, I'm like, I kept looking behind me to see, like who's behind me? Like why are people freaking out?

Speaker 1:
[54:18] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[54:19] Like it was an insane moment.

Speaker 1:
[54:22] And not that we wouldn't have done it anyway, but they do, I saw on our itinerary that they want you to go and socialize with the fans before entering. So it was kind of like something they ask you to do, like go take pictures, greet everybody. But we would have done it anyway, cause we like, I mean, I know, I personally like that kind of stuff. But so we went over and signed, talking to people, taking photos, just kind of whatever out there for a little while.

Speaker 2:
[54:52] Yeah. And people told us afterward that out of everybody who went to that party, like the people who got the biggest reaction were us and then Larry Berkhead, who if you don't know Larry Berkhead is the king of the Kentucky Derby social scene. He was the one who was with Anna Nicole Smith and they have a daughter, Dani Lynn and she's now like the queen of the Kentucky Derby. Like they always go every year.

Speaker 1:
[55:14] Yeah. Yeah. So that was really fun, really exciting. And it just felt so cool. Like, holy crap.

Speaker 2:
[55:22] Yeah. And it's one of those moments where, you know, in the moment I never felt famous when we were on Girls Next Door, like, obviously, I knew we had enough fame that it like opened up a few opportunities for us and stuff like that, but I never really felt famous. I think I always felt like the fuss was like still about half and that's just how I'm not saying it was, but I just, that's how I felt in the moment. So we'd always been around and then looking back on this and this felt so surreal at the time. And even in a deleted scene too, you see when we arrive at the hotel, we're the ones on the front page of the paper and we haven't even been in town yet. So it's just kind of weird evidence of how famous we were in that little moment.

Speaker 1:
[56:02] Did we get to that scene already?

Speaker 2:
[56:03] It's a deleted scene where we, it's when we get to the hotel and we're opening the gift baskets and then the local paper were the ones on the cover.

Speaker 1:
[56:12] It's crazy you guys because there were people there, all kinds of celebrities, big celebrities-

Speaker 2:
[56:17] Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1:
[56:18] And we are on the cover of the paper that we're coming to Kentucky, which I mean, that's still weird to me.

Speaker 2:
[56:25] Yeah, it's wild. So next week we will take you inside the Barnes Stable Ground Gala.

Speaker 1:
[56:31] Already?

Speaker 2:
[56:31] Yep. And if you'd like more content, check out our Patreon at patreon.com/girlsnextlevel. Check out our merch at girlsnextlevel.shop and we'll see you guys next week.

Speaker 1:
[56:40] Bye guys. Bye.