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If you have a strong will child, you will likely struggle with the following thoughts. You're not doing anything wrong as a parent, and yet it's just not working with the strong will child. All the things that you're supposed to do, like timeouts for toddlers, behavior charts for little kids, taking away screens or driver's license or a phone with your teenager. None of the traditional approaches will work with the strong will child. You're going to be frustrated by that and feel guilty, and you're going to be judged by other people. And that's why I always encourage you, if you have a strong will child, do what works for your family. And don't worry about what everybody else does, because your family life is going to look very, very different than other people. So I want to give you some tools to do it differently, to do things that actually work from toddlers all the way through the teen years. So that is what we're going to discuss on today's episode of the Calm Parenting Podcast. This is Kirk Martin, founder of Celebrate Calm. You can find us at celebratecalm.com. So I want to give a shout out to a couple that kind of inspired this podcast. It's Ben and Elizabeth, and they've got two strong willed kids. And between the kids, there are all kinds of diagnoses from ADHD, Sensory Processing Disorder, ASD, PDA, not to mention many others like our son had. And so what they wrote was like, we have always felt like failures, and we're judged by our family because we've been trying all the things we're supposed to, and yet none of it works, and we've sent thousands of dollars on therapy. And Elizabeth said, I finally convinced Ben to take advantage of your winter sale because it's like, we already spent thousands, like your program's like relatively inexpensive, let's give it a try. And so they said, as they began listening, Elizabeth said, I started to cry because I realized this tremendous weight I have been bearing thinking I'm doing something wrong, that we're bad parents, we've kind of felt helpless to help these kids. And now we get to listen and we have different ideas and a different approach to actually work. And so I applaud all the parents out there, this is hard, hard work. And you're going to be judged by other people. So let's go through a few points here. Look at consequences. Consequences work with most kids, but they tend not to work that well with strong will kids. And it's not that I'm against consequences. You have to give consequences. I'm not against them. I'm against relying on consequences as an effective tool to change a child's behavior. Because so many of you will say like, well, we're consistent and we follow through, right? Cause that's how you get judged. All your friends and family like, you know, if you were consistent and followed through, your kids would behave and you're like, really, I'd never thought about that. But you've done that for years. And we know why that is because many of our strong will kids, they don't care about losing things. They just don't want to lose their autonomy, their independence. They want to make choices. They want to learn the hard way, touch the hot stove. And we know the consequences are limited because they usually address the outward behavior. But we have to go the extra step to, to get to the root of the behavior and actually show our kids a different way to handle situations. Look, your kids already know what they are doing is wrong. That's why they lie because they did, they were impulsive, did something wrong. And now they know they're going to get in trouble and get a consequence and lose something, so they lie. So, and your younger kids also, they're very impulsive. They're not going to put it through logically in the moment of like, I know mom and dad said X would happen. Let's think this through. It that just tends not to work. So let's go through some things for toddlers. And everybody's going to say, Oh, just give them a timeout. And we tend to fall into this trap with toddlers of no, stop, cut it out. No, no, no, no, no, no. And the relatives are going to tell you all the things that you're doing wrong. But but look, you're already kids already know what they did was wrong. And timeouts, good luck getting a really intense, strong, physical, active kid to just sit still and think about your actions. It won't work. And one of my favorite stories, which is funny for me, but not for the parent, they were like, well, I kept putting my son in timeout and in a corner. And eventually he just started peeing in the corner. I was like, yeah, that's a smart kid. That's just what's going to happen. So instead of those things, if I have younger kids, here are a few principles. Whenever you say no to something inappropriate, because you have to say no, right? You can't do that. Always say yes to something appropriate. I want your energy focused on what your kids can do. See, it's one of those common things of like, well, my child's running into the street or they're doing that. And all we ever say, no, you can't do that, stop, don't do that. You'll get hurt. Well, they don't put that together. So if I'm taking my child for walking down the street or we're going to a store, I focus their brains on, hey, secret mission. Don't tell anyone, here's your job right now. Because I get the brain focused on what I want them to actually do. And then when they do that, I give a lot of intensity to them making good choices. Because, look, I know it's hard but we fall into this trap. Hey, no, stop, take that out of your mouth. Don't touch your sister, don't do that, don't do this. And then all of our energy goes to no, no, no. What are you going to do? Sit and time out. Instead, I want to set them up for success. I know it's exhausting, but you're the one who chose to have kids. It's just going to be exhausting. And so that's why I want you to simplify your life when your kids are little and lower your expectations of yourself and your kids. It's exhausting, but it's a lot less exhausting than constantly saying no and having meltdowns and tantrums. So I'm doing a lot of giving missions. Even when I say no to a child of like, let me just demonstrate, child's jumping on the sofa. I'm not coming in kind of that modern parent. Oh buddy, you know what? We don't jump on the sofa. There are springs in the sofa. And if you jump, you will, you will break the sofa. I don't like that tone. It sounds condescending and weak. I don't like saying, we don't jump on the sofa. I know this is a big deal for a lot of you. We don't do that here. You know what your strong will child is thinking? Well, we may not, but I do. If you're not jumping on the sofa, there's no we needed. You also don't have to come in, you know how many times do I have to tell you not to jump on the sofa? You're a disrespectful, disobedient little kid. I don't have to go to either of those. I can just go in the room and say, hey, jumping on the sofa, not happening in my home. See, I like that. That's short and sweet. That's just saying, hey, this doesn't happen. I'm setting a clear expectation and boundary, even matter of fact tone. Now watch where the energy goes. But I love your energy. Do I really love their energy? No, they're exhausting. But I say it anyway, hey, I love your energy. I could really use your help. Hey, could you move some mulch for me in the backyard? You want to help me stir the soup? Want to help me walk the dog? See, I'm giving, instead of just saying no, stop it, I'm giving them something to do. You know, for younger kids, we love rewind and replay, where I can say, instead of like, you know what, we don't treat our siblings like that here. No, I just say, hey, that's not going to work here. So let's do rewind and replay. And what they do is they walk backwards out of the room, and then you can show them how to come into a room and handle the situation with their sibling or with you in a different way. But discipline means to teach and to show them a different way to do it. So here's another one. Think about this. If you've got a 3, 4, 5, 6, 7-year-old child, getting them to sit still in preschool and pre-K is going to be hard. And you're going to get calls from the school about your child getting up and walking around class and not following directions all the time. Here's what I want you to know. Your child is not doing anything wrong in that situation. Now, I didn't say, right, like bludgeoning other children, causing fires, that would be wrong. But just struggling to sit still and follow directions as a little kid, they're not doing anything wrong. That's called being a child. An impulsive child is not doing anything wrong. Now, what they did may have been wrong, but being impulsive is what kids are supposed to do. And the teacher isn't doing anything wrong by also saying, hey, I've got to put them on red on the behavior chart. It's just that the behavior chart isn't going to work. And what I want you to know is you are battling arbitrary demands in an arbitrary environment for a child that age. There's nothing in nature that says a four or five, six, seven year old child should be able to sit for long periods of time. And their heads should be up in the clouds and they should be curious and exploring, not listening to other adults talking. They're not supposed to. So, if your child is struggling like that, your child isn't doing anything wrong, the teacher's not doing anything wrong, it just is. And it's hard because those are arbitrary demands. And I really want to encourage you as parents to really sort these things out in their childhood. I've said this before, make a list, get a piece of paper out, draw a line down the middle, left side of the page. Here are all the qualities and behaviors that are necessary for success in school. On the right hand side, here are all the traits and skills necessary to be successful in life. They don't always match up. And many of your strong will kids are just going to struggle in school because so much of what is asked of them, what do we reward them for? Oh, you follow directions. You are so compliant and so easy. We all like easy people and easy kids, but your kids are not made that way. And they tend to be the ones who are curious and trying different things, and they get into things and they're leaders. And but those those qualities are not always recognized or appreciated. 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Remember, we want to give kids tools to succeed. And so maybe with a younger child that's doing some early math, he's just bored, you send in a worksheet because you can't expect the teacher to do everything, right? They already have like 20 kids in class that are difficult. And so you send in a worksheet and the teacher says, hey, everybody else, you're doing like a addition with double digits, but you can't do triple digits. And now you just made it a challenge. You made the child feel like, oh, you're a little bit, you can do something different than the other kids. And it's a challenge and a mission that stimulates their brain. You can have them do all kinds of missions. Oh, I could really use your help because you take that blue backpack in the back of the class to Ms. Henderson next door. Well, that means some sensory needs because they're carrying a heavy backpack. They're getting to move for about 45 seconds, which is really nice for them. And then also sometimes when you do heavy work, sweeping is really good for this. Moving the larger muscle groups, it actually helps with fine motor skills. So we're giving tools all the time. Hey, I could really use your help. Could you refill my water bottle for me? I love say with transitions. Here's a good one. Most of your kids struggle with transitions. So when they come in from recess or the cafeteria, many of your kids are going to be kind of very scattered because in the cafeteria often it's very, very loud and chaotic. And maybe your kids struggle with their peers, so they're sitting alone. They feel kind of bad at playground. Many of your kids are not very athletic or even if they are, they're going to change the rules of the game, cheat, quit. They're going to button line and it's not always a great thing for them. So coming back into class can be hard. So here's a tool I use. I pull the child aside and say, Hey, Evan, I could really use your help because our kids love feeling like adults. They like helping other people, just not you. And so here's what I need to do. Picture these three things in your brain. One water bottle, three paper towels, the front row of desks in my classroom. I like visuals because sometimes when you paint a visual for kids, ADHD kind of kids, they remember the picture more than they remember words because words often get jumbled in their brain. So the child knows what I want him to do. When Evan comes back in, I want him to clean the front row of desk in my classroom. I was very, very specific. One water bottle, three paper towels. Not the whole row and just the front row. And when that child comes in, he's got a mission. See, it's not watch. It's not like, hey, when you come back into my class, you need to sit still and be on your best behavior because your strong will child's like, yeah, I have been on my best behavior. It's just not that all hell is that awesome. And so instead of telling like, well, when you come in, no running around, no fighting with other kids. No, I gave him a mission to do. And so when he sprang those desks off, watch what he's doing. Remember, wax on, wax off from Karate Kid? You're moving across the midline of the body. You're getting some sensory pressure, pushing down on those desks. And you're also getting a sense of accomplishment because seeing a desk go from being dirty to clean, how many of you, you'd love that. And it gives you a sense of feeling in control of something. See, those are tools we give kids. Now let's talk about adopted kids. Look, I have no other way to say this, except if you have a child who is adopted. I really want you to know this. Well, one, thank you, thank you, because I know that you did this out of love. And in many cases, you wanted to rescue a child and you really wanted to help this child. And so many parents say, well, we're having these behavior issues. And one you're likely going to have as kids who steal, they tend to steal and they lie a lot. And they'll manipulate at times, especially if they were in foster care or something else for a while, they kind of learn that survival instinct and they're going to struggle. And so many parents say, well, we adopted him or we adopted her at birth. The truth is that probably nine months when they were in the birth mother's womb, there was probably stress because by nature, if you're giving your child up for adoption, most likely you're going through some kind of stressful circumstance, right? That just makes sense. And so your kids internalize all of that. And no matter whether you got them from day one and you're the most loving parents, your kids are going to struggle with some things. And I want you to know that. Not as a, it's not a fear-based thing, but so many parents are like, well, we just love them so much and they're so, it's hard. It's just going to be harder. And many of your kids who have attachment issues, watch as they're going to seek and meet intensity because they associate intensity with connection. Because, see, the worst thing in life is not, say, with your spouse, and I'm not talking about abuse, but if you argue and fight with someone, well, at least you care enough to fight with them for something. But you know what's even worse is when you don't even care enough to fight and you're just disinterested. So what happens with many of our kids, and this isn't just adopted kids, but they associate intensity with connection because if they did something wrong when they were little, what they learned is, oh, the adult in charge kind of got mad, put down their phone, came up with me, and I got their full on intensity. You will not do that. What were you thinking? Well, see, they don't distinguish between positive intensity and negative intensity. It just means I feel some connection there. So you're really, really, really going to have to work on giving them positive intensity proactively and being able to stimulate their brains in that way, so that they're drawn more to doing the positive things, the negative. So here's the point within this podcast. You're not doing anything wrong as parents, but it just won't always work, and love often isn't enough. I know that hurts to say and for you to hear, but you're going to have to give them tools. And remember, we just talked about giving kids tools, creating successes, practice, making small wins. I can't do it right here, but we did this example before in one of the podcasts of a girl who was just used, she was just in the habit. She took things again and again from her mother. And so we put out, made this little treasure box that every time she felt that compulsion to take something, she had something appropriate to take. And every time she went to the little treasure box to take something, instead of stealing something from her sister or mom, then it was like, oh, that was awesome, because you felt compelled, you felt that desire to come and take something. And instead of doing something inappropriate, oh, you chose out of that good job. And see, that intensity is really important. So I want to create successes. And I want to affirm every single time they make progress, not perfection. And by the way, with these kids, also sensory issues, getting involved in martial arts, rock climbing, swimming can be extremely effective. But here's, and let's get to teens, but here's the thing. What doesn't work with our kids, right? We've talked about this before. You push them, they resist more. If you try to hurry a strong willed child, they tend to go more slowly. Overt praise of these kids. If you heard me say this, when I praise a strong willed child, I don't say, oh my gosh, you made such a good choice. I'm so proud of you. Because it doesn't square with how they feel inside, and it creates too much pressure, because inside they're thinking, wait, I didn't make a good choice. You're going to expect me to do that again. So when I praise strong willed kids, it's all like, hey, fist bump, hey, nice job. Like how you handle that. Hey, that shows me you're growing up. So when we get to the teen and tween years, just look, there's nothing wrong with taking away the phone, the screens, the driver's license. Sometimes you have to do that, but that doesn't mean that it's going to motivate them to change their behavior. And so that's why we have to go beyond external motivation to internal motivation. And if you have a teen or tween who is struggling, I'd encourage you with this. Let's try to get them doing one constructive activity, just one, preferably outside the home, helping another adult, helping little kids, helping animals, because your kids tend to be better with little kids, animals, and sometimes older people. And what I want them to do, even if you have to pay a neighbor or an elderly neighbor to approach your child and say, hey, I could really use some help at my house. Could you come down for 30 minutes on Wednesday afternoon after school and I'll pay you 10 bucks? You don't have to pay them money because over time, they don't really, it's not the money. They will love feeling helpful. You know what they're feeling? I have something to give someone else. Take a tweener teen their whole life who has felt different, never felt like I matched up with my peers or my siblings. I've always felt like I'm swimming upstream in life. I don't like school. I'm supposed to be really smart, but I don't get good grades because I'm not really motivated by this. Well, see, now I have something to give, doing service projects, having a greater responsibility. And I'm not talking about doing chores or doing their schoolwork. That's little, that's expected stuff of kids. But these are kids who are comfortable in the adult world. And I'd encourage you, start thinking about, how could I actually give them greater responsibility, expect more of them? When teens or tweens start giving out to other people, guess what? Other people start saying, hey, you're really good at that. Hey, if you consider going to college for this, hey, I appreciate you helping me get some technology stuff done in my home. Have you ever thought about going into IT? And when someone else mentions that or praises them, they tend to hear it a lot differently than they do coming from their parents. So I want to spark that internal motivation. So let's wrap it up this way. Moms and dads, think about that Ben and Elizabeth, have you been there before where you just feel like failures at times and judged by other people? You're not a bad parent. You're a really good parent. It's just that what you've been taught won't always work with the strong will kids. You're not necessarily doing anything wrong by taking stuff away or putting a toddler in time out. It's just that that isn't enough. It won't work. I want you to, I encourage you to spend your time. Find out what motivates your kids. Be a detective. Get in there and find out. Oh, they are driven by their independence doing adult type jobs, doing, having missions and you create successes. That tends to work a whole lot better than what we're doing right now. So thank you for being a great parent. Thanks for listening to the podcast and sharing it. Thanks for working so hard on your own anxiety and control issues and working with these kids. If we can help you in any way, let us know. I do encourage you, if you have our programs or get them, let your kids listen to them and use it as a discussion. Let them listen to the podcast. Hey, listen to this. What do you think about that? Our kids are never short of their own opinions on things and they'll let you know. But the better, the more helpful thing is that you have good discussions about what does motivate them. Oftentimes, it is a kid who is empowered, who says, Mom, Dad, I know what you want me to do, but I'm not motivated like my sister or like you are. Here's what does motivate me. You let your kids listen and they start to say, that's how my brain is made. And now they don't feel like, right? Like you sometimes feel like, oh, we don't know what we're doing as parents. We feel like failures. So do your kids. And I don't want any of you to feel like that because you're good people. All right. Love you all. We'll talk to you soon. Bye bye.