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Speaker 1:
[00:15] Back to Two Judgey Girls, this is Mary from the Bay, and it's Courtney from LA.

Speaker 2:
[00:21] The finale of Beverly Hills, thank God. But first, we are recording this on a Friday. And today, I woke up to a text from Mary.

Speaker 3:
[00:31] I posted the Ciara article.

Speaker 2:
[00:36] 6 a.m. Where am I? What day is it? Who's there? Our queen Ciara, gracing the cover of Glamour magazine. Thoughts?

Speaker 1:
[00:48] She looks gorgeous. She looks effortless, very minimal makeup, natural, and does a few different, just like eight photos, a few different outfit changes. Like she's wearing jeans and like a white bra with like this really fun black coat it's like giant kind of maybe like sequins. Then she's wearing like this beautiful white, almost mermaid-esque moment. She's also wearing like a cute, just like white tee and a pink dress. I thought the overall article was so well done. She gave herself time to do this interview. I love that she didn't bash Amanda and West in this. I also love an article where they write out the question, then you read their response. There's something about that that I really like.

Speaker 2:
[01:45] Like an interview?

Speaker 1:
[01:46] Yeah. But no, like the actual question, I don't know. I loved her part about how her word of the year is community and how important it was like coming into her thirties. And then she really gave his praise to Mia. And she's like, I told her at my birthday dinner, that moving into the same building was one of the best decisions that I ever made. And I truly think it saved my life, which I just think is the sweetest, nicest thing. Then she talks about was West and Amanda invited to your birthday. And she said that Amanda was invited, but she didn't go. And that West was invited and he went. And then she talks about having boundaries with him. And one of those boundaries was no more sleeping with people on Bravo.

Speaker 2:
[02:42] Thoughts? So I want to go back to your first things about the cover itself. I thought this was a really angelic, ethereal look on her to really give her just that natural beauty. And that is telling a story in of its own. I also thought the line about community was interesting because I think she also says in this too, is like little did I know that it would play out for me without me having to do things, right? Like it figured out who my community was. I did like the little dig at Amanda where she said, Amanda is one of those people that wants the invite but won't attend. We all have those people that are like, so I have FOMO but I don't want to go, right? Like I want the invite, which is also crazy because that's a 30th birthday. It's not just a random birthday. This is a big birthday for her going to the next decade. Though across the board, Amanda has never really cared about her birthday. She just wants Kyle to acknowledge it with a Cartier watch. I will wonder if they stay together long enough, what will be the gift from Wes this year? Matching sweatpants suit. Oh, God. Imagine. But the conversation with Wes too is wild to me because I was thinking like, wow, that's like a statement to put out, hey, no more sleeping with people on Bravo goes both ways. Because, okay, he went on a date with Mia from Southern Hospitality. He went out with Molly from Southern Hospitality. The rumor is that he and Sally hooked up at that football game that they had gone to and that Bronwyn had called him. So it sounds like, hey, after BravoCon, where those lines seemingly might have been blurred, did they try again? Because she also said, when you see your ex, sometimes you run it around the block again. That they finally were like, okay, we have to create boundaries. And so it does sound like perhaps Super Bowl, they really were just friends. I don't know because the rumors that they hooked up to. But the fact that he couldn't even do that. I know. Don't agree to something if you don't want to do that. It makes me think about when Katie and Tom said nobody in the friend group aka nobody on our cast. And he went and ran with it to Raquel because he hated Katie so much. And I'm like, West must hate Ciara so much. You just start to think about these different parallels. And I thought, yeah, the interview itself was really well done. I think she didn't make it about them. This really was about her and how she's moving and how she's entering that next phase in her life. And she will deal with things at the reunion. She hasn't really had a conversation. They asked her about when did you find out about this joint statement? Less than 24 hours, less than 45 minutes from one of them, I'd assume, West.

Speaker 1:
[05:35] Right, right.

Speaker 2:
[05:36] But then she found out about what was in the joint statement with the rest of the world and thought it was interesting that neither of them mentioned the other's name.

Speaker 1:
[05:47] Yeah. No, I feel like she also probably couldn't give as much as she wanted to because she's waiting for the reunion. They talk about the reunion like who you want to sit with and that type of thing. And like they're asking her, does she have her dress yet? And it doesn't seem like she does. And I think a lot of people want to see her in an Ariana moment revenge dress. And I'm actually predicting at this point, like she won't go the super perhaps like sexy revenge dress, but she will look flawless, gorgeous.

Speaker 2:
[06:25] She can wear a trash bag and look five stars. I predict she wears black. She said there's a theme. She doesn't know if she's going to dress in the theme. But I predict she wears black and says, oh, I'm at a funeral for my friendships here.

Speaker 1:
[06:40] I like this prediction. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[06:41] Okay. I'm not worried about Ciara here. She either wants to sit with Lindsey, Carl or Mia. But I think too, like if I'm her, I'm coming into this reunion, not even angry. I'm coming in with disappointment because wow, okay, that's where you let me know our friendship lies. I also want them to sit in silence with me. I don't think I need to say anything to the two of them. If this is the choice that you made was each other, and this is the ship that you want to sail on, go for it. I don't have to tell you guys anything more about how I feel about this situation, and I'm not going to be angry at you because if you want me to be angry with you, then that gives you a reason to hate me. I'm not going to let you hate me because that's on you guys. You made this, I will not be the villain in your story.

Speaker 1:
[07:27] I feel like she is going to be very collected, and I think at the end of the day, she's going to say, I hope this is worth it. I hope if this is true love for you, that I hope it works out. Obviously, it wasn't between me and West, and at the end of the day, I'll never be able to trust you, Amanda. We're not going to be friends. I am drawing a line in the sand, and I wish you well. That's like what's going to go down.

Speaker 2:
[07:52] The Gwyneth Paltrow, I wish you well.

Speaker 1:
[07:55] Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:
[07:57] They ask her, do you think Amanda is jealous of you? She says, jealousy is such a weird thing. I think that's a question you'd have to ask her, and I hope Andy does ask Amanda that, because I want to see what the hoops are that she jumps through to say no.

Speaker 1:
[08:10] They talk about, what was your conversation like with Amanda? She's like, minimal is all I will say, because that's something I'll talk about at the reunion.

Speaker 2:
[08:18] I'm just so happy for Ciara, because she just stays winning. It's like, she's on the cover of Glamour, and those two are in sweats at Blind Tiger.

Speaker 1:
[08:28] Now, okay, so this morning, this Glamour magazine comes out. Did West and Amanda read it together? Are they screenshotting it? How did that go down in your mind?

Speaker 2:
[08:40] They woke up in a sweaty jumble, because were they together? Yes, the phones were vibrating, right? Like, what the hell is going on? Because they had, you know, maybe they went out before, or maybe they're just staying in together, getting high as hell. And that's why I'm saying, like, I love the way that she talked about these things, but she wasn't gonna put words in their mouth. Is Amanda jealous? I don't know, ask her. This wasn't necessarily totally focused on Amanda and West. This was focused on Ciara and how she's coming into that next phase of her life. She talks about interracial dating. She talks about the stereotypes that are on her. She talks about the way that people might think she's fast moving. She's like, I've been with two people publicly. I was like, is that West? Is she referring to Luke?

Speaker 1:
[09:25] I was thinking Austin.

Speaker 2:
[09:26] Oh, okay. You're right. It's totally Austin. She looks so good. I love every look. I'm just that cover. It's like she's a star.

Speaker 1:
[09:37] I was very excited to see that. It's a great way to kick off.

Speaker 2:
[09:41] Yeah. I don't know if you also saw the Us Weekly article that came out with sources where she was like, if this is what they want, I'll be happy for them. If they're in love, okay. But the main takeaway was that she would come back to the show and she would just figure out how to navigate that. I was like, hell yeah, because I think our fear for Ciara was that she would leave because she didn't want to put herself in those environments. I was like, good, because I don't want her to leave.

Speaker 1:
[10:07] Could you imagine if they all came back this summer? How insane that would be.

Speaker 2:
[10:16] I kind of love it.

Speaker 1:
[10:17] I know.

Speaker 2:
[10:20] They thought season 10 would be the worst. I know Lindsay is going to come out like a house on fire. She's been waiting to have her peace with Amanda. Absolutely. For 10 years, she has been waiting. She has bit her lip. Guess who's getting the last laugh?

Speaker 1:
[10:36] Lindsay Hubbard.

Speaker 2:
[10:37] Mother Hubbard.

Speaker 4:
[10:42] Okay, then also something really shocking that happened.

Speaker 1:
[10:46] I would have never predicted this.

Speaker 2:
[10:49] This is a Bravo name generator.

Speaker 4:
[10:51] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[10:53] Kyle Cooke is seen on the streets with Meghan King in New York and they are kissing you guys. It's like Kyle was on his tiptoes and went up and kissed her.

Speaker 2:
[11:07] Hands on her shoulders for leverage to get to her height so that they can share a kiss on the sidewalk.

Speaker 1:
[11:15] It does feel like they both were probably drinking. She seems like a little distressed and then I feel like he kisses her and then they walk off. It could have just been a friendly kiss. He does just feel like Kyle Cooke, the kissing bandit. I think he is a kissing bandit.

Speaker 2:
[11:33] Are you in a tool or are you just a tool? That's what she was trying to figure out in that moment. Did you also see the clip of him from page 6-2 that he was like, I'd like to clarify the thread that I talked about reliving and rewatching. He was saying, I don't think that the affair was happening. That's not what I was referring to. It was just the moments of.

Speaker 4:
[11:54] You keep on calling it the affair.

Speaker 2:
[11:56] Oh my God.

Speaker 3:
[11:57] It's not an affair. Well, if it happened last season, it would have been an affair.

Speaker 2:
[12:02] So he's denying there was an affair.

Speaker 4:
[12:05] Right. But you keep on calling it the affair when it's not an affair. So the damn subconscious of me.

Speaker 1:
[12:13] I mean, Courtney, you might be right.

Speaker 3:
[12:16] I don't want to be.

Speaker 1:
[12:17] As of right now, it is not an affair.

Speaker 3:
[12:21] I don't want to be right on that.

Speaker 2:
[12:22] I don't want to be right. I want to be wrong on that. No, no, no. Sorry. That has to come out of my lexicon. Like no affair. Men in black mean. But the Meghan King of it all. Now, I had asked because one of my predictions this year was that a housewife would hook up with a younger Bravo Lab. What I meant by that was one of the younger shows. I consider Housewives the senior shows of Bravo, and then you have like Summer House, Southern Charms, Southern Housewives. All those shows are like the junior shows, like the younger shows. Guys, I'm well aware, Kyle is older than Meghan King. I'm well aware Summer House is in its 10th season, so it's not considered a younger show. Real Housewives of Orange County, the show Meghan King is on its 20th season. So yes, I would say it's younger. So I had asked, does this count because it's a younger show? I'm saying, I know Kyle is older, but does this count? Because I'm just trying to cross shit off my list. We're in mid-April, and I want to be close to halfway done with these predictions, even though I'm not.

Speaker 1:
[13:32] So I feel like I'm always very generous, and I say, yeah, you can cross that off. I don't think you can here.

Speaker 3:
[13:38] What?

Speaker 1:
[13:39] Yeah, it just doesn't qualify.

Speaker 2:
[13:41] Sorry. If we find out that something happened between Bronwyn and West, does that count?

Speaker 1:
[13:47] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[13:48] Okay. So you want them to be on a younger show and younger than The Housewife?

Speaker 1:
[13:53] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[13:54] Okay. So there's multiple requirements for this specific prediction.

Speaker 1:
[13:58] Yes. Well, I think the predictions have to be pretty specific.

Speaker 2:
[14:05] Okay. But you know, I have my general category. Now, if when we do our updated predictions at the end of the year, it hasn't happened, will you give it to me?

Speaker 4:
[14:15] Of course.

Speaker 2:
[14:16] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[14:17] I'm the kind of teacher that if you're on the cusp between a B plus and an A minus, of course, I'm going to give you the A minus.

Speaker 4:
[14:23] Like, of course. I'm always glass half full. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[14:27] Thank you.

Speaker 4:
[14:28] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[14:28] So right now-

Speaker 1:
[14:29] But I think in this instance, this is a no for me.

Speaker 2:
[14:31] Here's what I'm going to do on my list.

Speaker 1:
[14:33] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[14:35] I'm not going to mark it. What I'm going to do is put a parentheses behind it so I can remind myself later down the line in case-

Speaker 1:
[14:41] Sure, in parentheses, MKE and Kyle Cooke.

Speaker 2:
[14:45] Yeah. The O'Tools. The fact that she married Joe Biden's nephew, who is now- Joe Biden is somehow going to be in the mix. It's like, what is a crazier Bravo name generator? Who would hook up?

Speaker 1:
[15:01] She's always around.

Speaker 2:
[15:02] She's always around.

Speaker 5:
[15:04] Does she have her kids back?

Speaker 1:
[15:07] I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 2:
[15:08] Okay. Just also the fact, how is this a meet up or I wonder when these celebs or Bravo lubs or reality stars are in the same room. If I see you across the room, is it because I know of you, but I don't know you, that we can instantly connect because you have that reality TV layer or your celebs or?

Speaker 1:
[15:28] I know. I feel like I wonder if Kyle even knew who she was. I'm sure he figured it out as the night went on. But she was on Orange County so long ago, well before he was on Bravo.

Speaker 2:
[15:43] Was she though 10 years ago? They could have had an overlap.

Speaker 1:
[15:49] That would be something to look up.

Speaker 2:
[15:51] She was on Season 8. Check when the Vicky Cancer storyline was.

Speaker 3:
[15:57] Check when Brooks Ayers was on Orange County.

Speaker 1:
[16:00] That feels so long ago.

Speaker 3:
[16:03] I know.

Speaker 2:
[16:04] Check that out. Also too, we're recording this on a Friday, but this will be out Sunday, but that West, he is resuming normalcy too. He didn't feel a need to make a statement about it. He's just continuing to resume normalcy. So he's posting from his kickball league. They're two and O guys, if you wanted to know. Two and O. Did they go out to a bar after? Unclear. Did Amanda show up at that bar? Unclear. I'm wondering by the time people hear this, do we think there will be more photos of West and Amanda at diet bars in New York or a movie theater? Will there be matching sweat suits? What do we predict for this weekend?

Speaker 1:
[16:40] I do think we're gonna get a sighting over the weekend. I just feel like West and Amanda are weekend hookup people. I don't think they're at the level where they're seeing each other weekday. They did have that Sunday movie, but.

Speaker 2:
[16:53] Can I ask though, for them, are their weekends different than their weekdays though? No, like a real question.

Speaker 1:
[17:01] I don't think for Amanda, but I think for West.

Speaker 2:
[17:04] Okay, he's clocking in a complex somewhere.

Speaker 1:
[17:07] I do think he has more responsibilities where he has to show up for, like the podcast once a week at least. I think he has to do work with complex. She doesn't feel like she has to like clock in everywhere, or anywhere.

Speaker 2:
[17:22] I'm the Ciara article too. See, the funny part about the Ciara article was that she wasn't necessarily shading them, but the writer was. This is like if Leah Remini started dating Ben Affleck who was with JLo. Also, resuming normalcy to Amanda meant going to dive bars with West over the weekend. There were digs in there that I was like, oh God, reading that I'd be like, Ouch, how do you recover from that?

Speaker 1:
[17:50] I think Amanda is prepping for the reunion, and I think she's probably in therapy as well.

Speaker 2:
[17:55] I'm wondering too, when is the reunion?

Speaker 1:
[17:58] It's definitely going to be, I think, on the 24th because of Jesse Solomon. Is that Jesse Solomon's concert?

Speaker 2:
[18:06] I think you're at the 25th, so a week from today that we're recording. So end of next week, we think it's going to be. Although I do wonder if Jesse has a break in his schedule, if they've pushed it back. I mean, if they're re-editing things, do they have to give those episodes to everyone so they know what they're talking about? How do we focus on the season? Like, you know what I want to do? Tell me, Mary.

Speaker 4:
[18:32] I think we're going to Surf Lodge.

Speaker 2:
[18:35] I mean, at this point, it's like, I can't focus on the season. Everything that comes out, I just want more, but I don't want more. I want a break, but I don't want a break. Because if you're telling me that tomorrow, that we're going to get Carl making out with Caroline Manzo, I swear to God.

Speaker 1:
[18:52] That's a random pair.

Speaker 3:
[18:54] Oh, but Kyle and Meghan are King Edmonds, isn't a random pair?

Speaker 1:
[18:59] Caroline Manzo, she's married.

Speaker 2:
[19:01] Mary, I'm saying life is greater than fiction. I can't put anything past it because I would have never predicted the things that would happen would happen.

Speaker 5:
[19:13] So, so true.

Speaker 1:
[19:14] Wait, also you guys, the Surflage girl DM'd us.

Speaker 2:
[19:18] She did.

Speaker 5:
[19:20] She did.

Speaker 2:
[19:21] She said, I have tea for you. I was like, oh, I was like, are you a Surflage girl? She's like, I am. And I said, all we want to know is did West meet up with you guys or did you go to Common Grounds? And she said, he did not. She went to Surflage, he did not meet up, but he was texting.

Speaker 5:
[19:41] That's not tea.

Speaker 2:
[19:43] Well, it's iced tea. Now, could she have some tea that she wanted to spill to and we could have asked more? Maybe. I just wanted to know if he had gone or not.

Speaker 5:
[19:53] She said it was a weird situation.

Speaker 2:
[19:56] Yeah, which I'm sure it was because... We watched it. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4:
[20:02] We watched it. It was, it was.

Speaker 2:
[20:03] Yeah. Okay, I think these TMZ articles that have been relatively pro-West, like they are a thing, pro-West and Amanda. I'm like, are we gonna get one of those over the weekend too? Like they're still going strong despite what people might be saying.

Speaker 1:
[20:18] Who's writing those? Are they sending it in? Are they checking in? Just so everyone knows, we're coming as a united front.

Speaker 2:
[20:26] That's what I'm wondering too, is like obviously they are going together, right? So what do we think is going to happen at the reunion seating? They come in as a united front. Are they sitting together? Who's sitting with them? Let's just do our initial prediction. Go ahead.

Speaker 1:
[20:46] Okay. There was a part of me that thought maybe Kyle would sit on Amanda's couch, but now I'm like, no way, that's not happening. Even though I do think Kyle will help defend Amanda at the reunion because he wants a little bit of heat off him and he has a heart and wants to protect Amanda in some way because he's worried about her mental health. Andy will be at the center on the couch.

Speaker 2:
[21:12] That's good.

Speaker 1:
[21:15] Next to Andy will be Ciara, Kyle, Mia, KJ, Lindsay, Carl.

Speaker 2:
[21:26] Lindsay and Carl are sitting next to each other.

Speaker 1:
[21:29] Yep, at the end.

Speaker 2:
[21:30] Is this the left couch when we're watching? They're on the left side or is this the right side?

Speaker 1:
[21:35] This is the right side for them. And actually I think Lindsay and Carl could be interchangeable, but I think they could sit next to each other.

Speaker 2:
[21:42] So wait, Lindsay would be on the end end?

Speaker 1:
[21:45] Yeah. I guess maybe not because the city. But I do think Mia and KJ should be ahead of her. She was barely on the show this season.

Speaker 2:
[21:53] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[21:54] On the other side, it's going to be Amanda West, Jessie Bailey Ben. Dara will not be featured or Levi.

Speaker 2:
[22:07] Oh, okay. I forgot about Dara, to be honest. I do see her being on it. Okay. This would go with mine, then I'm going to add her into mine. Okay. That was your right side. I'm going left side. I think Ciara ends up sitting on the left side more often than not, and I feel like Kyle and Amanda usually are on the right side of the couch. So I'm going to go Andy in the center like you. Andy in the center. Kyle is actually my wild card here, which I think is crazy, but Kyle is my wild card. I'm going to go a little wild. Right side couch, from us watching. Kyle, Amanda, West, Jesse Bailey, Ben.

Speaker 1:
[22:49] Okay. It's the same, but you have Kyle at the front, then Amanda and West.

Speaker 2:
[22:56] Okay. Then on that left side, Ciara, Lindsay, Mia, Carl, KJ, Dara. I'm putting Lindsay at the front because I think she's going to come in hot. I think there's the seniority factor too. I don't see them putting Lindsay and Carl next to each other, but if they did, then I could see Mia and Lindsay switching. I also could see it being Ciara, not first chair, if she wanted to be bookended by other people and have the support of someone on her left and someone on her right.

Speaker 1:
[23:34] I don't think they give them enough grace for that. And I think they're going to want at the front, because at the end of the day, they want it to be like Amanda versus Ciara at the top.

Speaker 2:
[23:45] Which is so, it's just so crazy. Crazy, like before, they would be sitting next to each other. I know, that is so crazy. If it's at the end of the week, hopefully we will have an update next week to be able to figure out like who is where. It's just funny because you really could move anybody anywhere. And you know the person, I really feel like it'll either be Jessie or Ben that sits next to Wes. But Ben doesn't fuck around with Ciara. It's like somebody has to have that place next to him. Otherwise, it's just Amanda and Wes on one side and the rest of them on the other.

Speaker 1:
[24:23] And we get two rows, which that was my original prediction.

Speaker 2:
[24:30] Exactly. Okay.

Speaker 3:
[24:31] Anything else, Summer House for an hour?

Speaker 2:
[24:33] Can we take a break and let's come back, Beverly Hills finale.

Speaker 5:
[24:39] Oh, my God, Courtney, this is so tough.

Speaker 1:
[24:44] And I actually thought when I finished this episode, I watched the after show, I watched Watch What Happens Live. And I had heard this rumor that Kyle, at the end of Ultimate Girls trip, that's going to be her sign off. This is a rumor floating. I can't imagine this is actually happening. Do I want it to happen? I do. And I hate to say this, I think Erika was like so calm, cool and collective on Watch What Happens Live. And I really appreciated her sharing her DV story. I feel like we've seen her be vulnerable. I also feel like she has kind of like weathered the storm a bit, even though she's going through another $25 million trial. But I feel like she's run her course and I feel like Sutton has run the course. And I think those three have got to go. Would it happen? Probably not. But I really think we need to judge this up and we need to have Rachel Zoe's friends. We need to have Bo's friends. I want to see partying. I want to see dating. I want to see actual fun and legitimate friendships because what happened this season, I feel like at the end in Italy when Dorit and Erika were talking at that table, that was like exactly what I wanted. But it just feels like they want to win.

Speaker 2:
[26:21] Okay. So Vicki denied that there was anything filmed for a send off in Ultimate Girls Trip. So I want to apologize for you there because you're not going to get what you want there.

Speaker 1:
[26:30] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[26:31] Here's a dynamic I want you to think about.

Speaker 1:
[26:33] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[26:35] With this cast, now Kyle's not going anywhere. She will go to the grave with this show. However, I want you to think about this. Could next season be somewhat interesting because the alliances are now definitely divided and it's equal on each side. So trying to go after one person isn't going to work next season because we don't have a majority alliance. Could this be really interesting where maybe even Kyle becomes on the minority and they have just Kyle, Erika and Sutton over there against Bo's, Rachel, Dorit? I mean, honestly, they got Amanda at the end. I would love to see Erika on the show without Kyle, Erika not having a queen bee. She has said since she's come on this show that Kyle is the queen bee. And so it would be an interesting dynamic to see without her, but Kyle's not going anywhere. So I'm operating as is. This cast, if they threw another one of Rachel's friends on it, if we got one of Bo's friends and we didn't build up the Kyle side, I actually think we could have some sort of interesting play there for how they operate without having to be able to go after one specific person each season.

Speaker 1:
[27:54] So I think my problem with Erika right now, I love her and I think she's been a great housewife. She's been on the show for a decade. My problem is like, it's almost like a little too curated now.

Speaker 2:
[28:11] This whole franchise is curated, to be fair.

Speaker 1:
[28:13] I know, and I think that's what's not working. I think Erika at the end was throwing us a bone, showing us John, oh my love, and her showing us him via FaceTime. But it's like, come on, if you really want to show us your life, you have to show us your life. I understand protecting your piece and all of that, and maybe she wanted to see if this was going to work out with him. So maybe he'll be on next season.

Speaker 2:
[28:42] You think production told her, you better share a little bit more. I keep thinking about how production yelled at them at Italy, based on our own story, yelled at them at Italy, said, do something. They said, you guys haven't done enough, do something at this party. Erika shows that. Her end card were things that did not even have an inkling of being talked about on this season, like that $25 million lawsuit. She goes on Watch What Happens Live, and he's like, I've got a question for you. She's like, don't let it be about the lawsuits. Obviously, we're not sharing things, which is annoying because that's not technically real life. But then I thought too, man, Kyle is calculated here because when she at the end, when Kyle says to Dorit, she tries to be nice to her for one second, can't do it. Dorit, I hope your book is successful, and I hope that that party was great. Dorit's like, thanks. Then they're like, Kathy, is that a phone or a fan? They're trying to bond over this fan. Then she goes, but another thing, Dorit, why are you coming after me? I have defended you over the years.

Speaker 1:
[29:46] She names a couple of things, burglar, the burglars.

Speaker 2:
[29:50] But her mentioning first was Lucy Lucy Apple Juice. To me, that was a threat of, I protected you there. Think about the other things I know, I will destroy you.

Speaker 1:
[30:04] I just, I also wish that they could talk more candidly, because the bodies are buried, and they're about to dig them up. And we're so close, but the fourth wall has got to come down. It really has to. And I don't want to discredit this season, Erika's sharing that domestic violence story, because that was truly powerful.

Speaker 2:
[30:27] And we stopped talking about it though, it was the one episode, and then we moved on. Not that we need to continue to talk about these things, but we're showing vulnerable side of Erika, and then we throw it away.

Speaker 1:
[30:38] Yeah, no. Yeah, that got discredited. I think it needed more light. And she even says, like, I like wanted to quit the show. Like everything was just so heavy. She said that on Watch What Happens Live. And she even talks about, he's like, are you in contact with Yolanda? She's the one that like hooked you up with the show. And she's like, well, a lot of people kind of disperse after, you know, Tom in 2020. But she said she should reach out. Then of course, they ask, you know, a shady question. And it was like, if you could give PK True Serum, what would you ask? And she said, how you really met Dorit. And I was like, what is that story? Because she was the one that on Remember Live in Vegas, where they're playing one of those games. And she said she thought the next people to get divorced were PK and Dorit, and it happened. So I'm like, what is that story?

Speaker 2:
[31:31] Tell us. Tell us. You guys aren't protecting each other. That's why I'm like, I wonder if next season, now the reunion will probably go where Dorit will go hard on Erika and Kyle. I do think that Andy really doesn't like Dorit. So he will seemingly subconsciously side with Kyle and Erika because he does like them more so.

Speaker 1:
[31:52] In the preview, Dorit's like, well, Andy will apologize for what? And then you can tell he gets heated because he's like getting activated. The reunion looks better than the season.

Speaker 2:
[32:03] Yeah, they will go head to head. Then Erika will soften a little bit because she knows it's an ensemble show and you can only be mad for so long. And so she will hope for the good between Dorit and her to move forward. But Kyle and Dorit will go so hard at each other. And at the end, Andy will say, Kyle, Dorit, is there any way that you guys will be able to move forward? Or is this just done? And both of them will say, well, I hope we could. I feel like we really got a lot of things out on the table today. And I'm hoping that we can start a clean slate because I do, I do care for you.

Speaker 3:
[32:41] I love, I love.

Speaker 2:
[32:43] I wouldn't fight this hard if I didn't love you.

Speaker 4:
[32:45] Courtney is exactly verbiage.

Speaker 1:
[32:48] And that's going to be from Kyle Richards. And I actually think Dorit is going to be like, you showed your true colors, you guys didn't come to my book cover party. And honestly, like Erika, I can't forgive Erika for not going. But then at the end of the day, I'm like, also this was a book cover party. It's not the book release party.

Speaker 2:
[33:11] And she did call you a cunt, but it's not the not attending. If Erika doesn't want to go, that's fine. But she literally on camera with Rachel had a conversation about saying it would destroy Dorit if I didn't text or call her to say I'm not coming. So then when she didn't call or text her, she sent a signal of I'm trying to destroy you.

Speaker 1:
[33:33] No.

Speaker 2:
[33:34] That's the unforgivable part right there.

Speaker 1:
[33:37] Right. Well, and then in the after show, Erika does say she would go when the book comes out, which guys, it's coming out June 2nd. So I'd be very curious because it's still not talking in real time.

Speaker 3:
[33:48] And it's going to take you all summer to read it according to Cathy Hilton.

Speaker 2:
[33:52] When Erika goes over to Sutton's house, Sutton is so giddy that she is in with the cool girls, not realizing the cool girls are now Dorit, Rachel and Bose.

Speaker 1:
[34:04] And she is like, Erika.

Speaker 3:
[34:07] I wish I was there to lie on the wall to see what they're saying about us.

Speaker 2:
[34:14] And I'm like, Sutton, you are so fucking lame.

Speaker 3:
[34:17] I thought you didn't want to go because of it. No, you clearly want the drama to be the subject that we got her.

Speaker 1:
[34:24] No, it was really funny because Sutton definitely had her hair done for Erika to come over. And Erika, she put on a white pair of pumps and jeans and no makeup, hair up. She didn't get glam for this. Yeah, she did not get glam for this. And she's like, yeah, I'll take a drink. She's like, I cannot believe I'm at Sutton Brown's house.

Speaker 2:
[34:45] Did Christ come back itself?

Speaker 1:
[34:47] I'm connected with her now.

Speaker 2:
[34:51] She makes a comment about PK, which I thought was kind of crazy in her confessional where she was like, you know, I didn't call her, even though she supported me, but she did call me a cunt. She left us in the city. You know, Bose is treating me better. I'm like, Bose has never treated you terribly. So I don't even know why that's even like a counterpoint to this whole thing. And then she says she's been her friend for eight years, but I was like, I thought it was nine, even though it's according to Dorit, it's 10. We've got to get our timeline right. But her also saying like, well, maybe PK wasn't wrong. And I can't believe I'm saying that. I'm like, I can't believe you're saying that. Imagine if somebody said that about Tom.

Speaker 1:
[35:28] I know, I know. But it's at the end of the day, I think Kyle and Erika have decided, I don't want to be friends with Dorit. And they're showing that. Their actions are showing, they don't want to be friends with this girl. And I think Dorit did a good job at her book party, not letting it get the best of her. Her and Bose are holding hands and they're having a nice moment and two hours have gone by it and she realizes Erika isn't going to show, but she wasn't going to let that moment be taken away from her. That was so sweet when Phoenix and Jagger came out and they did the unveiling. That was a cute mom moment. I didn't expect that.

Speaker 2:
[36:09] What did you think about her reading her speech from the phone? I knew that had to bother you. I know how you feel about a speech from a phone.

Speaker 1:
[36:15] My notes, Dorit reading from her phone, this was shocking. I mean, I thought she would curate something better. An iPad with a leather case or something. I don't like the hand-held device. It's tacky. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:
[36:30] I don't think she owns a printer.

Speaker 1:
[36:32] She definitely does not, or she has one and it doesn't work.

Speaker 2:
[36:35] No ink.

Speaker 1:
[36:37] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[36:38] She went to print. She's like, Jocker baby, why isn't the printer working?

Speaker 1:
[36:43] Wait. Also, Jennifer Tilly breaking her $40,000 purse, then picking it up and saying, Mommy, it hurts because it's a crystallized teddy bear. Different than your crystallization, your bedazzling.

Speaker 2:
[36:58] Mine are Amazon beads, bedazzled. I think hers are probably like Swarovski.

Speaker 4:
[37:03] Then she eats tums off the floor. Kathy's like, did you just eat that off the floor?

Speaker 1:
[37:07] She's like, my friend owns this place. I'm sure it's clean. I was like, Jennifer Tilly, hold the diamond. You are wonderful and you have the money, which I love.

Speaker 2:
[37:19] I love her so much. I never changed. Tilly never changed. We have to talk about Amanda at this party, because I don't know if you know why she was there, but it was because she wanted to support a stream of revenue for Dorit.

Speaker 1:
[37:34] Honestly, super smart for Amanda to go to this because she's playing both sides. So the other girls can't be mad at her, but she knows she still has Kyle too.

Speaker 2:
[37:43] Does she have Kyle though?

Speaker 1:
[37:45] She's not going to be on next season, so it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 2:
[37:48] I want her to come back because also we moved on from eating Amanda very fast too. Now Amanda is fine. You could tell too because Dorit was like, shit, Amanda did show up and I have bigger fish to fry here. So then I feel like the wheels in Dorit's head started turning of like, I have to give Amanda props, tell her thank you, tell her it means a lot, I got to get her on my side.

Speaker 1:
[38:09] No, I think she handled that very well. Then I was surprised at this event that nobody noticed Boze's ring ahead of time. Rachel was sincerely stunned.

Speaker 2:
[38:21] I don't think she was wearing it. I think she put it on once Dorit said.

Speaker 4:
[38:25] Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:
[38:27] I think she was trying not to take away from the moment and then Dorit announced it to the group.

Speaker 1:
[38:32] Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:
[38:34] That's why I said, I actually, I loved this look on Boze. I love the hair. She was Rachel Boze. She was. Yeah. Kathy being at that event.

Speaker 1:
[38:46] Telling. Interesting.

Speaker 2:
[38:48] I thought it was telling. I think Kathy, she's putting quotes around this, stepped out of line a lot this season with Kyle. I mean, Kyle yelling at her in Italy. Are you my sister? Being like I need the blind support, but I think she also was like, okay, I'm going to go to this. I'm going to be supportive. I'm on this cast. And then Kyle not showing up. I thought Kathy was like, bad move, Kyle.

Speaker 1:
[39:13] No, there's going to be some friction between those two. I think it's also interesting in the trailer. Andy asks Kyle, like, are you going to get like half of the agency? And she was like, well, yeah, of course. And Kathy goes, well, does Mo realize that? So they're having some friction.

Speaker 2:
[39:33] Well, the agency is a big point of contention between the two of them and why they didn't talk for a long time. So I think Kathy in her mind, maybe won't say it out loud, is like, was it worth it? Let's take a break and come back and talk about the Kyle Mo.

Speaker 1:
[39:52] So also Kyle got like a new confessional look post-wedding or something, like this leopard floral look that she'd been doing.

Speaker 4:
[40:01] Where did this come from?

Speaker 2:
[40:03] I don't know. Very, very Angelina.

Speaker 1:
[40:06] It was strange though.

Speaker 2:
[40:08] In the last episode, you got a completely new confessional too, which made me think that this was something filmed after the fact, because why are we only seeing this one time in the finale? But she talks a big game in her confessional for the not being any closer to a divorce, being like, just like when you know, you'll know when to walk away. I was like, but you haven't yet?

Speaker 1:
[40:32] I was genuinely confused.

Speaker 2:
[40:33] You know yet?

Speaker 1:
[40:34] It was like, wait, I thought you already walked away.

Speaker 4:
[40:37] You did walk away.

Speaker 1:
[40:38] You mean just finalize the paperwork. Because I don't like it. I feel like she's trying to portray to viewers, like, well, there's like a slight chance we can get back together. They're never getting back together, but she's trying to like make the viewers think that because she knows that's what the viewers want and her children. When her kids are talking about, we're going to have a parent trap moment, mom and dad are sharing a bed, are you excited to snuggle with dad? Kyle's like, stop it, girls.

Speaker 3:
[41:05] Let's get together, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[41:07] Think of all the fun we'll have.

Speaker 3:
[41:11] Then when she's in the confessional, I feel bad for her.

Speaker 1:
[41:13] She's like, it feels so strange to be on my own.

Speaker 2:
[41:18] But she's not, we know she's with Morgan. That's the annoying part about this whole thing is that she keeps lying in our faces. Now, I don't doubt that she is going through the motions of separating from Mo, especially when you have these big momentous occasions, like your daughter getting married. I thought it was telling when she said, I used to see people who were separated at their kid's wedding and think, why did you let it get to that point? But Kyle, you made the decision because you're standing up for yourself and what you wanted. I think what happened was that you missed that family unit more than you miss being married to Mauricio. Yet you can't move past a lot of this because of what has happened with him. I do think he was never emotionally fulfilling her, no that. But I think the fact that they were still this family unit provided her this sense of comfort. I think she's having this feeling of mourning of the familial unit of what it used to be. So I do feel sad for that, but it's like, stop saying you're on your own.

Speaker 1:
[42:23] No, I struggle with Kyle because I used to love her so much, and I really wanted to like her again this season.

Speaker 2:
[42:29] I know.

Speaker 1:
[42:30] Completely teemed her eight. But when she's in this confessional, it really does break my heart. I think it's the saddest thing because I think she took so much pride in her relationship and her family, and she feels like a failure that she did stick it out. She blames herself, I think.

Speaker 2:
[42:49] Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1:
[42:50] Also, Courtney, I love that you finally admitted that her and Morgan are dating.

Speaker 4:
[42:57] I think this is actually the first time that you admitted it.

Speaker 2:
[43:02] I think I always know. That house is not an investment property in Nashville.

Speaker 3:
[43:10] I do know that.

Speaker 2:
[43:15] No, I think I've said it before.

Speaker 4:
[43:17] Barely, barely.

Speaker 2:
[43:19] But Erika, watch What Happens Live 2. They didn't agree or disagree, and they asked, do you think Kyle will get back together with Moe? She said, disagree. But I was like, is that because of Kyle or is that because of Moe?

Speaker 1:
[43:29] No, they're just done. They ran the course.

Speaker 2:
[43:32] They are done, and I'm like, we don't need to see any more of him. I also thought we're doing all this wedding prep. That was Kyle's storyline outside of her tiffs with the cast, and yet all we do is we get two scenes of the wedding.

Speaker 1:
[43:47] I was surprised we got it at all, to be honest. So I was also wondering, I don't think they filmed it at the wedding. I wonder if that was just like videographer that they wanted to share. I think they had a deal, like I'm not going to film her wedding, but we'll get you guys a snippet to add in. I don't think the cameras are at the wedding. Okay, so the after show was better than the actual finale, I would say.

Speaker 2:
[44:10] Only 11 minutes long too.

Speaker 1:
[44:13] There's a little infomercial for Sutton. I was selling her shit, her pajamas.

Speaker 2:
[44:19] Do you think she had to do the upset tummy one about her tummy being upset so that she could then also advertise her pajamas? Like do our shit and we'll do your shit.

Speaker 1:
[44:32] Yeah, I don't know how that stuff works. I'd be very curious. But anyways, so I love that Dorit did this. A couple days later after Cathy's event where there's zero resolution, Dorit decides to go to Kyle's daughter's wedding solo. She walks in with her head held high. PK is also there, never speaks to PK, never speaks to Erika or Sutton. Kyle does come over to her. Cathy said she's a class act for showing up. So I feel like that was a very smart move for her, very strategic, but good for her. Like, I love that she went. I think that was really, really powerful.

Speaker 2:
[45:17] Well, and to give Kyle credit too, in the after show, she said she was really appreciative of Dorit coming because Dorit and her daughters have a relationship. And I thought it was smart of Dorit too, because let's just say this is a bump in the road and the friendship's not really over. She would be really upset if they come together next season and she missed out on this event. And so I think that there's a level of put the show to the side. I've already said I'm coming. I will come. I'll have a good time. I don't need to start any drama here. I'm here literally to support your daughter. And yeah, I think she was a class act for going. And I think that Kyle did appreciate that. So I'm glad that there wasn't any drama surrounding that.

Speaker 1:
[46:02] Yeah, I think it was so smart for her to go. And I think it wasn't smart for Erika not to go to the book party. When they're fighting at Kathy's house, and I think Dorit summed it up really well, she's like, Erika, I don't know what changed overnight. I'm a single mother. The book cover was important to me. You couldn't put our differences aside. Now I'm seeing the real you. And the way that Erika is so cold in this moment, and she talks about, well, you called me a cunt in Italy.

Speaker 2:
[46:31] It was very godfather-esque. There was no emotion.

Speaker 1:
[46:34] Honestly, acting like she just didn't give a shit. I have nothing left to say to you.

Speaker 5:
[46:38] We were good.

Speaker 1:
[46:40] You know, she just wasn't giving her-

Speaker 2:
[46:42] Were you civil when you called me a cunt in Italy? I want you to soften your edges. You are not listening. I don't have anything left to say. We're good. Like, Erika, we've had a friendship for 10 years. Nine.

Speaker 4:
[46:58] I know.

Speaker 1:
[46:59] I just, I feel bad for Dorit in this moment, because she knows exactly what's happening, and it's like Kyle is winning, and nobody was really coming to her defense. I did notice that Erika was coming to Kyle's defense and Sutton after she yelled, for sake, speak the truth when Kyle starts to lose it. And then Kathy like runs over to Kyle like calm down, calm down, calm down.

Speaker 2:
[47:21] But I thought it was good on Bose and Rachel not to defend Dorit in this moment. Like Rachel said, like they have a history. I'm not getting involved whether they're wrong or right. Like they're sitting there with Dorit. Rachel's sitting on the side of her chair. Like I think she's like, Dorit, I'm in your corner, but like honestly, let them do what they're going to do because it doesn't look good on them. And then when Bose and Dorit leave and Sutton's like, shit, I haven't had my moment yet. I've got to go follow her. I was like, this is so embarrassing Sutton, especially because you could use things against Dorit, not why did you say you hate me when everybody knows it's a joke. We all watched it. We knew it was a joke. No, it was really serious. Like Sutton could have come up and said, hey, Dorit, I don't mean to pile on this. I'm not sure the next time I'll see you, but I do want to say it did hurt my feelings when you said that. I was hoping that we would be able to get along as single mothers going through similar situations. I wanted to be there for you. I don't feel that the same. I had to take my son to college, that was my life. She could have really guilted Dorit, but the way that she decided to approach this with, I just keep thinking of you, be like the producers being like, Sutton, you better do something. She's like, I'm going to come after you. The way that Dorit tells Sutton, you are irrelevant to me. Sutton, you got to leave now. There's nothing you can say, you dust.

Speaker 1:
[48:53] Literally, Sutton chasing the fight at Rachel Zoe's house the previous week, at Cathy's house this week. So embarrassing. I did like her bow, I did like her dress. Dorit didn't.

Speaker 2:
[49:05] She's turned her fashion up a lot this season, so I'm going to give it to her, but I just love it because it's just another Regina George moment, but I just love when she was like, it's not a nice bow.

Speaker 1:
[49:18] The way that Dorit is so cold to Sutton at the end, it's hard to be on Dorit's side in this moment because I'm like- Really?

Speaker 2:
[49:26] I thought it was easy.

Speaker 1:
[49:27] Really? Because she's so mean to Sutton in particular, even though I am team Dorit, but it does feel like she's becoming the villain in this sense.

Speaker 2:
[49:39] I see what you're saying. I think for me, Dorit had a read on this whole day. Okay, they're coming after me. Yes. Sutton's now following me because she hasn't had her moment. I'm not going to give it to her. So I thought even though Dorit was being mean to her, I thought she was like, don't try this right now. You want to come after me too? I already dealt with Kyle, I dealt with Erika, and you haven't gone after me again? No. Let me just cut you down. You're not going to win this one, Sutton.

Speaker 1:
[50:08] No. It was overall embarrassing. Would you like me to leave the closing rights to you?

Speaker 2:
[50:14] I would 100 percent love for you to read me those.

Speaker 1:
[50:18] Okay, Kyle. In the end, Dorit did show up to Alexia's wedding, but Kyle and Dorit have not spoken since. While Kyle and Mo did not end up sharing a room at the wedding, neither are ready to pull the trigger on the divorce.

Speaker 2:
[50:31] Truly, though, she will not pull that trigger until he asks for it, until he's with somebody younger who wants to get married and he has to live his second life. That's when he'll ask for a divorce. At this point, it is too expensive for them to divorce. It's cheaper for them to stay married, to keep their assets wrapped up. They will play this mouse game until Mauricio decides that he's going to do it all over again.

Speaker 1:
[51:01] I only think he would have that second life if he gets someone pregnant.

Speaker 2:
[51:05] That's what I mean. There's kids involved in that second life. Yes. 100 percent on the same page there.

Speaker 1:
[51:12] Rachel, while the boy's relationship with Roger has been improving lately, Rachel's divorce is still pending with no ended site. She's been debuting a new romance on the red carpet of Beverly Hills, not by the valet stands.

Speaker 4:
[51:26] I think it's funny that was like a Moe nod.

Speaker 2:
[51:30] It was Moe and PK, not Roger.

Speaker 4:
[51:32] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[51:32] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[51:33] Wait, did we ever talk about the girlfriend's Instagram comments about Rachel?

Speaker 1:
[51:38] Not really, I don't think.

Speaker 2:
[51:40] So she gave her side of the story about it and people are like, can you believe she did that? I was like, I kind of can believe she did that because unfortunately for her she will be the villain in Rachel's story forever. But she does deserve to say her side, whether people want to listen and take her side or one thing. But I did think it was kind of funny when she was like, I've been with Roger for two years. I'm like, wait, timeline needed. Timeline needed. I don't know if you wanted to give that detail.

Speaker 3:
[52:07] When was that?

Speaker 1:
[52:09] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[52:10] Because they've been separated less than two years.

Speaker 1:
[52:12] Right, right, right, right. So who knows?

Speaker 2:
[52:15] They always tell on themselves.

Speaker 5:
[52:16] Of course, always.

Speaker 1:
[52:20] Okay. Erika is set to start her $25 million trial in April of 2026. Things are looking up though. Erika is very happy in her relationship with John and her new DJ career as DJ Pretty Mess.

Speaker 2:
[52:36] Thank God. Who was the DJ on this show? We've got Erika, thankfully.

Speaker 1:
[52:41] So now it's Erika, Meredith, Dorinda, Kyle, Maddie, James Kennedy.

Speaker 2:
[52:48] Randy, Patricia Butler.

Speaker 1:
[52:53] Seven.

Speaker 2:
[52:53] Don't forget about Abe the Babe who's also a DJ.

Speaker 1:
[52:57] I don't think I knew that one.

Speaker 2:
[52:59] No, you've known this.

Speaker 1:
[53:02] Not recorded in my memory.

Speaker 2:
[53:03] Okay. Marcus from Vanderpump Rules.

Speaker 1:
[53:07] Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2:
[53:09] Every show has got to have one.

Speaker 1:
[53:12] Okay, next. Bo's plans to have one more round of IVF while planning her two weddings on two different continents. She and Keely are still searching for their new home, but Keely's yet to get his own drawer, which that feels troubling.

Speaker 2:
[53:28] Like not even a drawer?

Speaker 1:
[53:30] Seems strange.

Speaker 2:
[53:32] I wonder if the house that they're searching for is because her Malibu one had burnt down. So I wonder if that's the house that they're looking to replace, and I don't want her to sell her current one. It's so nice.

Speaker 1:
[53:44] That's a good point. I forgot about that Malibu mansion.

Speaker 2:
[53:47] I know. Crazy.

Speaker 1:
[53:50] Sutton is working on making Sutton Brown official and keeping her Zen mentality and keeping away from vodka. That is so embarrassing. While she struggles with her empty nest, Sutton finds solace in her gang of pets and Reba.

Speaker 2:
[54:08] I don't know if it's looking good for Ms. Brown.

Speaker 1:
[54:11] Amanda got married, you guys, on 9-9-2025, because she's going to get married again on 10-10-2026. Courtney, I hope you get the invite.

Speaker 5:
[54:21] Fingers crossed.

Speaker 3:
[54:22] Put her on the next season, please.

Speaker 1:
[54:26] Amanda still plans to have an extravagant wedding in October. In the meantime, she's manifesting a best seller for her new self-published book, Godly As Fuck.

Speaker 2:
[54:39] Do you think that she had filmed scenes, and in case she didn't get picked back up, she decided to get married 9-9-25? Or was there a different reason that they got married just more like, oh, let's make it a civil union and we'll do the big party, obviously? Also, I'm going to change the line for richer or richer.

Speaker 5:
[54:59] He was like, stop it.

Speaker 2:
[55:02] He's like, this is my life.

Speaker 4:
[55:04] I know, I know.

Speaker 2:
[55:07] But she doesn't bug me as much as she bugs everybody else. I need more of her. I need her to go on her book tour. Even in the after show, she's talking about how people are talking poorly about her, and Cathy's talking about her subscription business. She's like, oh my God, Sutton's introducing me to people, and they're buying my book right in front of me on amazon.com.

Speaker 1:
[55:30] I mean, she's doing something right.

Speaker 2:
[55:32] A stream of revenue, women supporting women. It's a moment.

Speaker 1:
[55:39] Then finally, Dorit's book is set to release in June, 2026 while her divorce is still pending. She lost dead weight in both her relationships and friendships, and she loves being unburdened. Worst season ever. Definitely never want to rewatch this, and they got a cleanup shop.

Speaker 2:
[56:03] I weirdly think this could be good for next season. Now, we know what we think will happen at the reunion, but for some reason, if they left as enemies, I feel like that would be huge for next season.

Speaker 1:
[56:18] They're going to. I've seen press where they're not talking.

Speaker 2:
[56:23] But isn't Erika being softer?

Speaker 1:
[56:26] I think that's like her overall vibe.

Speaker 2:
[56:30] I mean, three-part reunion, let's go. I think it looks interesting. Glass half full, we're going to enjoy it, okay?

Speaker 1:
[56:37] No, the reunion looks interesting. I mean, Andy's asking, like, was Tom emotionally abusive? I mean, Kyle's like, oh, what? Dorit's trying to bring back smoking, like, oh, acting all cool, smoking cigs. She's acting like an asshole, okay? So I think there'll be some moments.

Speaker 2:
[56:55] I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 4:
[56:57] You know what?

Speaker 1:
[56:58] I'll be talking about it with you regardless.

Speaker 2:
[57:01] All right. Well, I hope everybody has a great weekend. Bye.