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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Yo, finally, we're here at Drink Champs, the fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. We're gonna be there, you know we're gonna tear it up.

Speaker 2:
[00:07] You know there's a lot of black people there, so you know we're gonna be black as hell.

Speaker 1:
[00:09] April 25th, Atlanta, Georgia. Please go get your tickets. I'm telling you, go get your tickets. I know how this happened. I've been going there, it's been going there, you've been going there.

Speaker 3:
[00:17] Go get your tickets!

Speaker 2:
[00:19] It's going down, Drink Champs, fourth annual Black Effect, Black, Black, Black.

Speaker 1:
[00:23] blackeffect.com/podcastfestival.

Speaker 2:
[00:42] He's a legendary Queens rapper. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players. In the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk facts.

Speaker 3:
[01:11] Hopefully, good be, hopefully, what it should be.

Speaker 1:
[01:12] This is your boy, N-O-R-E.

Speaker 2:
[01:14] What up, it's DJ EFN.

Speaker 4:
[01:16] And what's up, it's Jack Thriller, the bitch killer.

Speaker 1:
[01:19] Okay. And today, we have a legend, brother, legend. We have a comedic icon. This man has held down us for years. Anytime we needed to laugh, this man has been there for us, for all of us. He has held us down. He is a legend of a legend. He's an icon, an icon. And I've been trying to get this man his flowers. I've been wanting to let him know how much he means to this game, how much he means to this support, the thing that we participate in. And he's a part of the joke. He wants to be the joke and he is the joke. And in case you don't know who we're talking about, we're talking about the one, only, dumbass.

Speaker 5:
[02:15] Yo, I was waiting for you to say, give it up for Dave Chappelle. Yo, I didn't even know you felt that way.

Speaker 1:
[02:22] No, no, you my, damn, I'm about to say you my. I'm trying to stop saying. No, no, I'm trying to stop saying.

Speaker 5:
[02:29] You don't got to say it like that. You do it like you're doing to rest, like, Shut up! Just run it up, Just say you got to rest.

Speaker 1:
[02:40] But off top, off top, off top, you did, we judged people by what they drink. And you ordered the Burt Chrysler. The Burt Chrysler.

Speaker 4:
[02:52] I, oh shit.

Speaker 5:
[02:54] I gotta be honest. I did one of Burt's podcasts, right? And he asked me.

Speaker 1:
[02:58] You did the, the cabbage shit.

Speaker 5:
[03:01] No, not that one. Something's burning. Something's burning. Where he cooks and everything, right?

Speaker 1:
[03:04] Yeah, we just did that. Oh yeah, we did that.

Speaker 5:
[03:06] Yeah, so we did that. And he said, what is this vodka? Iosso? What is it called?

Speaker 1:
[03:09] Oso. Oso.

Speaker 5:
[03:10] Oso. So he was like, he was like, you want some Oso? I was like, man, I don't fuck with that shit, right? And he said, you do know that's my vodka, right? So as a tribute to him, I want to make sure I drink it. And it's pretty good too. I did it.

Speaker 1:
[03:23] No, it's very good. It's very good. But I also saw you, I'm going to be honest with you. I saw you on the cabin. Right. And that's when I knew you were black as black as black.

Speaker 5:
[03:35] Why do you say that?

Speaker 1:
[03:37] You did not like any white jokes?

Speaker 5:
[03:40] Yo, first off, I was supposed to do that episode. It was supposed to be Bill Burr, right? And then Bill Burr got-

Speaker 1:
[03:46] Bill Burr.

Speaker 5:
[03:47] Bill Burr.

Speaker 1:
[03:48] Yeah, Bill Burr. That's the white guy who was married to our sister. Yeah. Yeah, we're right here.

Speaker 5:
[03:53] So when they pitched the show, the idea to me, I wasn't so excited about it, because the white boys got all the frat boy humor, right? But then when it was supposed to be me appearing with me and Bill Burr, so I was like, it was a good chance I hadn't really worked with Bill Burr since the Chappelle Show. I thought it was a good opportunity for us to, you know, then we had some little underlining stuff going on, so I had to be perfect. So when I show up, I looked on the trailers, right? And I didn't see Bill Burr's name. I saw Bobby Lee, right? And then when I saw Bobby Lee, I said, this shit about to be some crazy shit.

Speaker 1:
[04:22] It's almost like Mr. Lee.

Speaker 5:
[04:24] Bobby Lee and Bobby Lee and Bert Kreischer, they can't wait to get naked to do some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I knew it was going to happen as soon as I walk in, Bert Kreischer's butt ass naked with a bear in front of his dick, right? And Bobby Lee, Bobby Lee, he was naked. No, stop, stop. No, I'm telling you, he was naked on the floor like this. As soon as Bobby Lee saw it.

Speaker 1:
[04:44] My friend Bert, my friend Bert.

Speaker 5:
[04:45] Yeah, he won't be your friend after this story. But look, but yeah, your homosexual Tennessee friend. Yo, Bert was butt ass naked and Bobby Lee said, now's my chance. Jump right in front of him naked. I was like, this is not going to be the show for me. Yeah. But they knew that like I was the, everybody else was, everybody was excited, but it was funny. But I will say that's not brand of humor. But at the same time, me and Bert been knowing each other for years. We had a show on Comedy Central years ago called Reality Bites Back.

Speaker 1:
[05:13] Absolutely.

Speaker 5:
[05:13] Where we connected with that. So I said, I'll do it for him. When I went there, it was definitely obvious that I was not excited to be there. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:
[05:22] I was proud of you.

Speaker 5:
[05:23] Yeah, because white boys are the only people. They could do shit like, yeah, then I put my balls in your neck. don't do that shit. I mean, African Americans. don't do that. It could be an issue. But it was a fun show. I'm going to tell you, this is the best part of the show. It was a crazy show. But the best part, I like, there's a one moment when everybody's sitting at the table, right? And then we start talking about fatherhood and stuff like that. And it was a...

Speaker 1:
[05:50] You one of the Chinese guys, when did I add it?

Speaker 5:
[05:52] It was Korean. That was Razors. It was Korean. N-O-I-C-O, they got hyang nim, honggo ma lo chokum. For the Korean people, y'all know what it is. Yo ba seo, yo ba seo, yo ba seo, yi di wa. Money up so kata chogi, money up so hop shida. And that's a song if you into buying Korean pussy. In the translation, yo ba seo, yo ba seo, yo ba seo, yi di wa. Let's come here. Let me talk to you. Money up so kata chogi. You ain't got no money, get the fuck out of here. Money up so hop shida. And that is in celebration of people that buy pussy in Korea. And I learned that. I'm going to be honest.

Speaker 4:
[06:25] I have to ask. How do you know that?

Speaker 5:
[06:27] I was in the United States Air Force for four years. And the first base I was stationed was in Kungsan, Korea. And I was over there four years. And I used to work. I was a military police officer. A lot of people don't know that part of my life. I was the worst police. I made one arrest in like four years. My handcuffs was brand new at the beginning and the end. I didn't know what Miranda was. I thought it was a bitch to work in the club down the street. And I got connected with the culture. And I used to work with Korean military police every day. So the thing, I was excited about the culture. So every day I was practiced how to speak different words in Korean. And I learned that song. I'm not like, in my bio, it says fluently, but I'm like conversation level. I can tell if somebody's talking shit about me in Korean. And then I know how to say this is going to be a good one. This is how, if anybody's curious and thinking about buying sex in Korea, this is how you say how much for the pussy in Korean. Poji Oh My Yo.

Speaker 6:
[07:26] Poji Oh My Yo.

Speaker 5:
[07:27] You going to jail, you going to jail, and everybody in the back going to jail. If you remember that, don't take it to a karaoke spot, you're going to be fucked up. Poji Oh My Yo. That's how you say it. It's not Poji Oh My Yo. Not important, but that's some of the things I learned when I was in Korea.

Speaker 1:
[07:42] Let's make some noise for Poji Oh My Yo. Now, we're going to bounce around a little bit, but...

Speaker 5:
[07:51] Good to see you, Jack.

Speaker 4:
[07:52] Man, it's good to see you, too.

Speaker 1:
[07:53] I can talk to you in a while.

Speaker 5:
[07:55] I remember when you had a regular eye, You got the ball eye.

Speaker 4:
[07:58] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5:
[07:59] You had a marble, This got diamonds in his eye, everything.

Speaker 4:
[08:03] Yeah, Lil Duvall bought this eye for me, man. When he got in an accident, you know, he had a... I took care of him, man, wiped his ass, all that. You know, he had wanted to pay me back. He wanted to pay me back.

Speaker 5:
[08:14] That's a nice thing.

Speaker 6:
[08:15] How does he wipe his ass without being able to see it?

Speaker 4:
[08:17] No.

Speaker 5:
[08:18] No, how do you wipe his ass and talk about it?

Speaker 4:
[08:24] You can't wipe your friend's ass. You're not a real friend.

Speaker 1:
[08:27] He did say this on the show. He did say that, that. And I thought he was being a comedian.

Speaker 6:
[08:35] This is a true story?

Speaker 1:
[08:36] This is a true story.

Speaker 6:
[08:37] I don't know what you mean.

Speaker 1:
[08:38] Literally, he wiped his ass.

Speaker 4:
[08:40] Yeah, man, that's my dog.

Speaker 2:
[08:42] But you bit a bunch of times.

Speaker 1:
[08:45] Don't expect no shit. I got shit all over him.

Speaker 5:
[08:51] Nah, that's the next level for a shit right there.

Speaker 1:
[08:53] Literally, you don't expect no shit.

Speaker 4:
[08:56] Think about it. You got a girl, right? You got a girl and everything, and you're not really that comfortable with her. And you know what I'm saying? Like, wipe my ass and stuff. I've been this dog for over 20-some years. You know what I'm saying? And it ain't nothing that we ain't never trains all at back in the day, you know?

Speaker 1:
[09:12] So it is what it is.

Speaker 4:
[09:14] You know? So whatever he need, I got him. You know?

Speaker 6:
[09:17] I mean, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2:
[09:18] I prefer the stranger girl.

Speaker 4:
[09:20] Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1:
[09:22] Donnell, no, no, no. Don't put this on me. You wiping Dave Chappelle's ass?

Speaker 4:
[09:29] Nope. You would never wipe Dave Chappelle's ass?

Speaker 5:
[09:33] I don't give a. That asked me, caked up, with me. That's why I draw the line, Thank you for knowing you. Thank you for the show. I ain't wiping the grown ass. My father possibly, my son, my son maybe, but I don't know if I'm wiping them. And then DeVoe got all these, he ain't got no bitches that could wipe, I mean, no queens that could wipe his ass.

Speaker 4:
[09:52] That he was comfortable with.

Speaker 5:
[09:54] That he was comfortable with. I don't even want to know the details that he's that comfortable with, like Jack. Come over here and wipe my ass. I already kissed my ass, but wiping my ass is a whole different ball game, sir.

Speaker 4:
[10:09] Y'all my, I do that for y'all, bro.

Speaker 1:
[10:10] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's stay right there.

Speaker 4:
[10:13] All right.

Speaker 5:
[10:14] Wait, I, it depends for me.

Speaker 1:
[10:16] Okay, but let me ask you.

Speaker 5:
[10:18] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[10:21] I don't think there's ever been an iconic show, like the Dave Chappelle show. I mean, we can relate it to living color.

Speaker 5:
[10:33] Right.

Speaker 4:
[10:35] Mad TV?

Speaker 1:
[10:37] No, I'm not white.

Speaker 4:
[10:38] Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[10:40] Did I fuck up by saying that?

Speaker 4:
[10:42] Kids in the Hall?

Speaker 1:
[10:43] No.

Speaker 4:
[10:43] Okay. Key and Peele?

Speaker 6:
[10:46] Key and Peele is good.

Speaker 1:
[10:47] Key and Peele is good, but that's also a Dave Chappelle...

Speaker 4:
[10:51] The Chris Rock show?

Speaker 1:
[10:52] No. You're fucking up.

Speaker 6:
[10:55] All right.

Speaker 1:
[10:55] Sorry, I'm out. This is one of the most iconic shows. Like, I ain't gonna lie. I don't remember the last time I ran home, like, Monday night. Is Dave Chappelle coming on or whatever it is. Now, you lived this in real time. I didn't live this. I was a fan.

Speaker 5:
[11:19] Right.

Speaker 1:
[11:21] You was a part of this.

Speaker 5:
[11:22] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:24] Did you know what history you was creating when you was creating that history?

Speaker 5:
[11:28] I felt it. And the weird thing is I felt it, but Dave and Neil didn't feel it.

Speaker 1:
[11:33] Neil was the white guy?

Speaker 5:
[11:34] Yeah. He was responsible for me being on that show. I felt it.

Speaker 1:
[11:39] Neil was responsible?

Speaker 5:
[11:40] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:40] I thought you and Dave.

Speaker 5:
[11:41] I'm sorry. People would assume that because both of us from DC. And you're black. And we black. That's what would be the automatic connection. But Neil and Dave had wrote Half Baked, right? And at that time, Neil Brennan was popping on the writing side in Hollywood. He had sold like three films. He was getting a lot of money, but his shows weren't getting green lit or whatever. So he wanted to start to dabble in the directing side of it, but he didn't have the experience. So he wrote this short film, and he had sold me on some auditions in New York. He was a fan of mine. And he reached out to my manager. He said, yo, I'm doing this short film. It's just for, there's nothing just for my resume and just to get acclimated with directing and editing. And he asked me, he asked my manager, would I do it? And at the time I had shit popping, I was on HBO's The Corner. I was doing some other stuff. And I was like, well, I know you can't afford to pay me, you know, but in the event you're in a situation where you can throw me a bone, throw me a bone. And I say that, usually when you say that to people, they don't never-

Speaker 6:
[12:39] Like Hollywood shit, like right.

Speaker 5:
[12:40] Cut to, I did that for him. And months later, he called me, he said, I'm working on this show, I want you to be involved with it. I was like, what's the name of it? He said, we didn't have a name. I said, when you get a name, let me know. That show happened to be the Chappelle Show. But you gotta realize when Dave- Chappelle Show, I'm sorry. Yeah, Chappelle Show, but when Dave and Neil, Dave has a production company called Polyboy Production. And the reason why that name came about because Dave was the golden child in Hollywood. You know what I'm saying? At the age of 16 to 17, he was already working with Mel Brooks, Whoopi Goldberg had said he would be the next guy. But his pilots, he was getting the looks, but nothing was making it to the network. So I think maybe, out of frustration, my company is going to be a Polyboard production. And I think what he did with Comedy Central was like, okay, let's see how it's going to happen. They weren't as excited as me because they had been through that process. I was like, oh my God, this is an opportunity, it's a platform. So they're not knowing that. But I knew this show, the reason why I knew this show was going to pop, because I used to call Dave and I used to be like, yo, I talked to the streets today, right? And when I say streets, I used to go to the barbershops. I lived in Brownsville and it was something different about Dave's career because Main Street was already accepting of Dave. You know what I'm saying? He was the top dog, whatever. But for some reason, Dave's brand of comedy, whatever, and I'm being straight when I say it didn't resonate with the streets like that.

Speaker 1:
[14:05] At first, because the hood didn't identify with it because he was too smart.

Speaker 5:
[14:10] I hate to say this, but, most of the time people want to lowbrow comedy, and then we're coming off the heels of Def Jam. Following what you said, there's never been a show where you ran home and want to see. Def Jam was that show. Def Jam was that show.

Speaker 1:
[14:25] It lived in color.

Speaker 5:
[14:26] It lived in color. I think part of the success of Chappelle's Show, it was at a time when nobody was doing anything original, nobody was taking chances, and it felt like people was preparing themselves for cancel culture. So it was the newness of it or whatever. And we did, we took chances. But when I used to talk to my dudes in the streets, the real, it was something that, and I used to tell them, I said, every week I was like, our ratings is gonna be this, our ratings is gonna be that.

Speaker 1:
[14:52] Are you telling Dave this?

Speaker 5:
[14:53] I'm telling Dave and Neil. And they were still like, I'm still young, like, oh my God, this is my opportunity. They was already paid, they was already doing it. But I could feel, I could feel the energy of it. And week by week, it just grew and it grew and it grew. Another, it's so crazy, one of the biggest sketches on that show was the Charlie Murphy sketch.

Speaker 1:
[15:14] When you sprayed just from here?

Speaker 5:
[15:16] That was, no. No, Charlie Murphy, True Hollywood Stories.

Speaker 1:
[15:22] Was that sprayed in your hair?

Speaker 5:
[15:23] No, I was spraying, I'll tell you how that even happened. I love that, I love that, okay. But with the True Hollywood Stories, this is how sometimes the networks don't know. They didn't like that sketch. What? They didn't like the sketch with Charlie Murphy. What was wrong with it? Let me explain. First off, it hasn't been in the history of sketch comedy where it was one sketch that for the most part lasted the whole episode. If you think about it, that was one thing that had never been done. And the crazy thing, and they didn't think Charlie Murphy was funny. Wow. Tommy Central didn't think Charlie Murphy. We had to fight for them to leave that sketch in its entirety. But the reason why I knew something was different is because I was the warm up comic for that show. Like before, when you sat down, you go to a show, a taping, there's a guy that comes out there and gets the crowd.

Speaker 1:
[16:13] The live studio audience.

Speaker 5:
[16:13] The live studio audience. And when I tell you, when we dropped that sketch, and the first time Dave said I'm Rick James, bitch, the place blew up. And we knew that we was on some other shit.

Speaker 1:
[16:29] So it was I'm Rick James, bitch, or was I'm Rich Bitch?

Speaker 5:
[16:33] No.

Speaker 1:
[16:33] I'm Rick James.

Speaker 5:
[16:35] I'm Rich Bitch. That came when I did the Reparations sketch. Okay. And what people don't know, the Reparations sketch, when you give black people the money. What Dave did years ago, he did a special, I think it was called Trick Whitey. Can't remember, but one of the jokes, he was dressed up as a white guy, and then people connected with him as a white guy, and then at the last minute, he takes the mask off, and he says, I'm rich, bitch, right? And this was a part of that show. That show was basically Dave taking his joke books, making it three-dimensional, and doing it. So you would see lines from his specials in that show. When we did that line, I had to drive that truck down, right? First off, I didn't have no driver's license.

Speaker 1:
[17:19] You were smoking a cigarette.

Speaker 5:
[17:21] I was driving a cigarette truck. I didn't have no driver's license, but I didn't want them to not put me in the show. Them said, you got a license? I said, hell yeah, ain't nobody checking. And I had to drive the truck down the street. I had to hit the mark, not run through the light, because we didn't have enough money to block off the street. Spielberg and them come in town. They block off the street. It's all fake. I had to not, we in Harlem. I had to not hit the light, go through the light, not run the white chick over, take the keys out. It was a diesel truck. And then if you hear the music, I mean, the sound of the engine is going to kill the scene. I had to stop that. I had to lean over and deliver the line. And I kept messing up. I was like, I'm rich, bitch. Then I was like, bitch, I'm rich, right? I'm like, I had different variations of that, right? And then Neil looked at me. He looked at me. He said, yo, B, we got to get this right or we're just going to scratch, just sketch. And out of frustration, I was mad because I was like, they about to kill me. And that's why when you're here, I was like, just, I'm rich, bitch! That was not a frustration. And then they were like, yes, that's the one.

Speaker 1:
[18:29] That is genius.

Speaker 5:
[18:30] But it was like, I look at people talking about that show. I took advantage of every second I had on that show. A lot of people don't know, it was never a cast. Nobody auditioned to be on the show. It wasn't like, all right, we got to write for you. It was like, you're only as good as your last sketch. So I always performed on that show, like this might be the last time I'm going to perform. I wasn't one of those actors, like, well, I don't get to talk that much. I don't want to do this. I was like, I'm going to make every, anytime that camera pans to me, I'm going to go crazy. And that was with, if an editor were to take, how many times I spoke on that show, put it on the timeline, out of two and a half years, it would probably equate to about three minutes of airtime. But I said, I want to be funny. Suited that camera, what I was saying to her, Ashy Larry, he wasn't Ashy. He was just Larry.

Speaker 1:
[19:28] Yo, I know Ashy Larry. Everybody knows Ashy Larry. I know him, like, I know Ashy Larry.

Speaker 4:
[19:35] He was more sterile.

Speaker 5:
[19:37] Everybody, it was a story about somebody trying to make it by any means necessary. I don't want to take the chances. But on the paper, on the script, it only had to do them boxes and shoes. But I was like, that's not going to be enough. I want these to laugh as soon as they see me.

Speaker 1:
[19:50] Marcy Projects too.

Speaker 5:
[19:51] Marcy all day. I went, so I went to the makeup and Donnell, he was a makeup dude. I was like, yo, I need some baby powder. And everybody looking at me like, what the fuck you gonna do? I was like, and I didn't want to tell Dave enough because they probably like to look gross. I baby powdered myself up, right? And I scratched my legs. When you see in that sketch, you see me with the trash bag, that was real trash, right? I said, I want to be funny soon as that came here. And that sketch was designed, it was the first time we had somebody outside of our crew. Eddie Griffin was on that sketch. And that sketch was designed to showcase Eddie Griffin and Dave. But the camera don't know who got the most words or anything. So I said, as soon as they say, action, I'm going to go for it. And when I was doing it, I didn't know, it was an out of body situation, right? And Charlie looked up to me, he said, do you know what you're doing right there? I said, I don't know. He said, nigga, you killing this shit. And for some reason, out of all the things I did on that, to this day, I'm Ashy Larry and everything. I was in Spider-Man 2. was like, yo, y'all see Ashy Larry in Spider-Man? I was on BMF. They was like, y'all see Ashy Larry get killed on BMF? It don't matter where the fuck I go. I'm Ashy Larry. And then some people are like, do you ever get tired of that? It's so hard to be recognized in this business for anything. And how you sell tickets by people being out of dinner? So I'm not that person like, don't call me Ashy Larry. Ashy Larry is an LLC. You know what I'm saying? People can connect with, if that's enough for a person to buy a ticket to come see me and then you see what I really do, then it's a win.

Speaker 4:
[21:34] Why not?

Speaker 6:
[21:35] It stands the test of my life.

Speaker 4:
[21:38] I hate that when people don't want to be called by something people know them by. That's ridiculous to me.

Speaker 5:
[21:44] Yeah, but that's people that's shallow and don't get it. I'll tell you another story about that show. The character, we did the Player Hater's Ball, right?

Speaker 1:
[21:51] Player Hater's Ball.

Speaker 5:
[21:52] Player Hater's Ball. People don't know about that.

Speaker 1:
[21:54] That's spray me. That's also spray me.

Speaker 5:
[21:56] Let me tell you how that happened. So, I would ask Neil, I said, Neil, what's the next sketch?

Speaker 1:
[22:01] For Neil, the people that don't know, that was the writer of...

Speaker 5:
[22:05] So, I said, Neil, I said, what's the next sketch? I'm going to be here. He said, you're going to be in the Player Hater's Ball, right? So, I look at the call sheet. I don't see my name on anything in there. I said, yo, I thought you said, he said, oh, I'm sorry, B, I forgot, right? I was like, that's a real hater right there. You forgot all about me? He said, yo, just come up with something. That's what he said, it was not even, this was the day before. I'm not even written in there. He said, just come up with something. So that night, I said, what can I do? First off, Five Heartbeats was one of my favorite movies. Right? So I said, I gotta build this character. I said, you know what? I want a suit that looked like something Eddie Kane Jr. would wear, right? I'm bald, my hair don't grow. I said, now my chance to grow some hair. I said, I want a Jerry Kerouac, right? And I said, I said, I want to, this one like a bottle of champagne there.

Speaker 1:
[22:55] This is Ace's Pay, the best champagne in the world.

Speaker 5:
[22:57] I know, I've asked him before.

Speaker 4:
[22:58] Okay, you're not giving me nothing.

Speaker 5:
[22:59] So, I told him, I said, I want a champagne bottle with a nozzle. I said, I'm gonna squirt my hair with champagne. Right? This is what I said I was gonna do. And then when I went up, they said, well, we can't do that because that's too messy. This character did not exist. I had to come up with something. I called the wardrobe, I called hair and makeup.

Speaker 1:
[23:19] You gotta remember, this is back in the days as well. So, yeah, okay. They didn't have champagne like this back in the day.

Speaker 5:
[23:24] But they thought it was gonna be too messy. So, I went to the props. I said, give me an aerosol bottle. Just wrap it up in gold. Make it look like a bling situation. And I said, every time I say a word, I'm gonna punctuate it with a shh, right? This dude does not exist on paper. I get to work. Neil sees me, he's like, what the fuck is going on? And I was like, Neil, what's my name? He said, I don't know, B, come up with something, right? So I'm making everybody laugh on set. I still don't have no name. I walk past this mirror and I'm doing Michael Jackson shit and everything. I said, God damn, I look beautiful. Beautiful. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Every word out of my mouth in that sketch was all improv. Wow. It was so much that if you see the scene that was ice tea was in, right? It was ice tea. He's on stage, Patrice O'Neill. If you look at the shot, everybody went to the podium. I didn't go to the podium. I was like this, they ain't going to leave me out. I started yelling out lines. Then one shot, you see, I say, Silky, mother got one big titty and one little titty. They call the bitch Biggie Smalls. I made that up. I'm like, y'all not going to put me in there, but I interjected myself. But the one lesson I learned, and this could go out to anybody, that you don't know when your next opportunity is going to happen, you got to go hard or you possibly, you could go home. After I established myself with that, then they started writing for me. But this is how they used to write for me. They would just put the word son and just put a long line and just let me do what I wanted to do.

Speaker 6:
[25:01] Do you get writer's credit when you're doing this?

Speaker 5:
[25:02] No, I didn't get writer's credit. No, but this-

Speaker 6:
[25:05] We're not supposed to make those up. No, I just want to know the business side of that part.

Speaker 5:
[25:08] No, but I'll be honest with it. I didn't make a lot of money off the show. What people don't understand about this business, you hear so many stories and people come on these platforms and they say, I only got paid so and so and so and so, that's what the fuck you agreed on.

Speaker 6:
[25:22] It was the opportunity.

Speaker 5:
[25:24] And I looked at it like that. In fact, Patrice O'Neill, he had a conflict with the money we was getting, so he said he didn't want to be a part of it. You see how that worked out. You know what I'm saying? It was so many people that got opportunities. I'm like this, first off, I was having fun doing the show. All I wanted to do was people to see me. I would have did that show for no money. The impact it had on pop culture and what we was getting out of it, I would have had no problem getting paid. First off, at the time, I was broke, so I used to go to work. Half the sketches I was on, I just showed up for work because I know I get some free food, I get to learn a little bit more, and I get to hang around with the fellas.

Speaker 4:
[26:00] Did you have a real job when you?

Speaker 5:
[26:02] I never had a real job. I only four or five months into the business, I never had a real job. No, but I was like, I told myself like the Black Bush sketch, when me, most deaf, we up there, and I'm eating Cheetos and shit on that sketch, that was the clothes I had on that day. I had smoked some weed, I had the munchies, and it was like, let's go. And I was like, fuck it, I took the Cheetos, whatever I had, I went up there and I stuck. Dave, and not just for me, hanging out, Dave was like, you want to get some of this? I was like, yeah. So that was that, a lot of, so many stories on that show that people don't understand and don't understand what my contribution, I get it all the time. be like, yo, this is what they hit me with all the time. If it wasn't for Dave, this and that, what people don't know, I did shit before the Chappelle Show and I did shit after the Chappelle Show. I can't apologize for being on one of the greatest television shows in the history of TV. So I take it with a great...

Speaker 1:
[27:04] You know what's great? When I spoke to you the other day, I was literally watching you on Joe Rogan's show. Like literally, I was watching you on Joe Rogan's show and I was like, holy shit, he has no idea. Like, you know, I want to give you your flowers, man. Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3:
[27:22] Like, yo, where y'all at? Come on, what the?

Speaker 1:
[27:26] I want to give you your flowers, man, because I'm going to be honest with you. Snoop said, Snoop said this is better than a Grammy, because it comes from his people, but I just want you to know, I just want you to know, face to face, man to man, eye to eye, like listen to me, not you, you can't do eye to eye. Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5:
[28:00] You gotta look that way. They want you to eye to eye Jack.

Speaker 1:
[28:06] You are hands down one of the funniest people on the planet, bro.

Speaker 3:
[28:10] Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[28:11] Like I sincerely, we've been wanting to do this, me and EFN, for 10 years, bro.

Speaker 5:
[28:18] I don't believe you, son. Yeah, no, I guarantee you. No, no, no, I don't want you to shit.

Speaker 3:
[28:23] Just feel like I'm...

Speaker 4:
[28:26] No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5:
[28:29] I feel like I'm on Joe and Jaden right now. Next thing you know, I bought 18 in the grocery store.

Speaker 1:
[28:43] No, no, no, let me just tell you something. No, no, for real, for real.

Speaker 4:
[28:46] I don't believe you, son.

Speaker 1:
[28:47] You are one of the 20est people on the planet, my dude, and we have to give you your flowers. We have to take shots for you. We have to tell you how much you mean to this business, how much you mean. And I know you were with Charlamagne and DJ Envy. Y'all can go through y'all shit, but that shit ain't got nothing to do with this. And over here.

Speaker 5:
[29:08] Man, fuck Charlamagne, fuck DJ Envy. Charlamagne can get facial injections. That do botox, son. I can expect a to arch their eyebrows. That use Maybelline products, son. That get moisturizers and all that type of shit. That is one week from the BBL, Don't bring that there. That is in the booty band, son. That spell yes like this, y'all. I'm telling you what it is.

Speaker 1:
[29:40] I know we family, so we're gonna do our drinking game.

Speaker 6:
[29:44] Oh, we got it.

Speaker 5:
[29:44] You guys sent it?

Speaker 1:
[29:45] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 6:
[29:48] Jack, you drinking with us, right?

Speaker 1:
[29:49] I've been waiting to get your flowers.

Speaker 5:
[29:51] Charlamagne contour his face.

Speaker 1:
[29:57] And then we're gonna get into y'all's shit, too, because y'all have some shit, too.

Speaker 5:
[30:04] No, you was fucked up with me about something. I can't remember what it was.

Speaker 1:
[30:07] Martin Lawrence.

Speaker 5:
[30:08] You have a beef with somebody so long, you forget, but you supposed to be.

Speaker 1:
[30:11] Yeah, yeah, Martin Lawrence.

Speaker 5:
[30:12] Even when I saw y'all, I was like, yeah, what you doing here? And I knew he was trying to be nice to me, because a liked, he liked on my page 12 times. When you see a with 12 likes and five hearts, I was like, this gay, son. I didn't know what was up. I was nervous about that. You liked on me so I couldn't respond, because you had receipts of me being gay with you, son. And then as soon as I saw you, I was like this, yo, I'm sorry, I didn't like back. And then that wasn't enough. No, that wasn't enough. No, that wasn't enough. It wasn't enough that the did eight hearts and 12 thumbs in a row.

Speaker 4:
[30:52] Don't tell him, don't tell him.

Speaker 5:
[30:53] No, I'ma tell him, son. The left me a voice message, Y'all, he left me a voice message. And then I knew this was gonna do some gay shit, because he cleared his throat out before he said anything. Anytime a start off with this, ah, ah, ah, ah! Oh, this boy tell me he wipe asses, man, son.

Speaker 1:
[31:14] You got a gay brother, you got a gay brother, son.

Speaker 5:
[31:17] I do got a gay brother.

Speaker 1:
[31:18] But I'm telling you, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 5:
[31:20] You did something to me, you had to, cause I'm not that type of person. You did something to me, son. No, I didn't. You was on your shit. That's when you was on your, this is 50s shit.

Speaker 3:
[31:28] You was on your shit.

Speaker 5:
[31:30] You was too good for everybody. That's the OI, I remember the OI. You didn't have this, son.

Speaker 4:
[31:37] This is what happened.

Speaker 5:
[31:38] When a say make eye contact, they really mean it.

Speaker 1:
[31:43] Oh shit, I wasn't ready for this shit.

Speaker 4:
[31:46] So first off, I want to apologize to your face.

Speaker 1:
[31:49] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[31:50] I sincerely, sorry. I was riding a wave. I know, you was riding a wave. You was on the Breakfast Club, and it was a moment that happened, when they realized that I was on the Martin Lawrence Club. Yeah. And so when they was like, Jack's really funny than you and whatnot and all this other stuff. I was like, this is my moment.

Speaker 5:
[32:14] So I gotta re-post this shit.

Speaker 4:
[32:18] And I posted you saying, I was like, yeah, I'll burn your ass, Donnell. Anytime you want it, you can do this, baby. Whatever I do, you know I can. That's what I did! I was trying to ride the wave. I was just trying to come up.

Speaker 5:
[32:41] You know what?

Speaker 4:
[32:43] I'm sorry.

Speaker 5:
[32:43] No, it's okay. You know what? You were real, well, psyche bitch ass. But like, bossy bitch ass, white, white ass. But this is what hurt me about that. You know what hurt me about that? Now that I remember it, you reminded me of it. I don't fuck with nobody, you know what I'm saying? I don't fuck with nobody. I don't compare nobody. I don't compete with nobody. I do take it to the stage. And then it threw me off, and I'm like, and I could tell, I don't even think the word clout was invented yet. You're the originator of the clout. I was. You were the first clout nigga.

Speaker 4:
[33:18] I was clout chasing.

Speaker 5:
[33:19] I didn't know clout, I knew gout. I knew with gout. I knew gout chasers. I knew that don't need to eat no spam or nothing like that. Real clout, I did not know. And it threw me off. And the reason why it threw me off, let me tell me this. Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. I don't with like niggas, but I fucked with you. I fucked with you when you come up. I fucked with you with the Distance 50. And when you did that, I was like, ugh. I'm like, what happened?

Speaker 4:
[33:48] It wasn't like that though. That's not what my heart was.

Speaker 5:
[33:50] It was, they didn't just say it.

Speaker 4:
[33:52] That's not what my heart was. I thought you was going to see it, and you were like, oh shit. Yeah, let's go back and forth.

Speaker 5:
[33:58] Yeah. No, first of all, let me tell you. The one thing you don't want to, like can say what all they want.

Speaker 4:
[34:04] I'm not doing this in a threatening way.

Speaker 5:
[34:05] No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3:
[34:09] I ain't scared of you.

Speaker 5:
[34:17] The are like, bitch ass. This is what I...

Speaker 3:
[34:24] He can't see.

Speaker 1:
[34:25] He can't see.

Speaker 5:
[34:26] I knew it was something, but this was disturbing me. I don't fuck with nobody. I'm not trying to go on these podcasts and talk about this. I'll just put it like this. Let's take it to the stage. And it was interesting. Like, we could have went back and forth. I don't know if it would have worked out good for you because I do that. I do this shit on the stage, son. I do it. We could, we could, we could. I really appreciate the fact that I'm telling you, I didn't respond to you. I was like, I don't remember. I don't with this. I don't know why I don't with him. But I knew I didn't fuck with him, right? And then when I saw you, I was like, what is a nigga that I don't fuck with doing here?

Speaker 3:
[35:07] I didn't know that.

Speaker 4:
[35:08] I didn't know that.

Speaker 5:
[35:09] But I will say, it was genuine. Your emojis.

Speaker 4:
[35:16] I came for my... It was the hearts.

Speaker 5:
[35:19] Yeah, it was the hearts. And I'm saying to myself, I was like, he don't care what everybody else thinks. Because it wasn't the DM. It was all my shit. I was waiting for to put some rainbows on top of the shit. Somebody need to get the rainbows. But we had a different place. We older now. You know what I'm saying? I didn't stop my shit.

Speaker 4:
[35:43] I'm almost 60 years old.

Speaker 5:
[35:44] I ain't got time for that. No, and I'm the same.

Speaker 1:
[35:46] I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. Y'all comedians, I thought y'all all got along.

Speaker 4:
[35:52] What? Comedians hate comedians.

Speaker 6:
[35:54] We've learned that that's not true.

Speaker 1:
[35:56] I did not know comedians hate comedians.

Speaker 5:
[35:59] They don't, seriously. Everybody think it only could be one motherfucker on the top at a time. You know what I'm saying? don't. Kevin Hart, they don't. It's not too often that you see comradery. It's not too often that you see coming together to support each other. And I said this before, and you know this podcast world and everything, right? This is what I say, especially, and people can be critical of what I'm saying and whatever. And when I say the white boys, I mean the Rogans, I mean the Chryshers, I mean the Sigouras, I mean the Hinscots, they pick who they want to help blow up.

Speaker 1:
[36:38] That's right.

Speaker 5:
[36:39] There's no way for you not to succeed.

Speaker 1:
[36:41] Okay.

Speaker 6:
[36:41] Like they elevate and within their hands.

Speaker 5:
[36:45] What I'm saying is, they don't, what I feel, they don't feel that sense of competition. It's like this, they like this, I'll put it like this. Years ago, when I, the first time I did Rogan Show, right? And he was talking about, what am I doing in my career? I said, I'm on the road most of the time. I said, but I'll say, but I want to be more in LA because I got a young son. I don't want to be on the road as much, right? I said, but my money is on the road, right? I said, I'm thinking about reintroducing myself to Hollywood. You make this whole? I think about that song. That's the song that was resonated with me when I was doing that, right? And I said, maybe I need to reintroduce myself to Hollywood, try to get more film and TV work to make more money so I could be in LA with my son more present. And Rogan said to me, he said, just start a podcast. And this is what I'm saying. I didn't know how big Rogan was. I was like, man, ain't no money in the... I said... Let me tell you something. The word pause, for to be so intuitive, did they know exactly where to say pause? You know, like, you waiting for a pause.

Speaker 3:
[37:51] You like to dick pause.

Speaker 5:
[37:54] All right.

Speaker 3:
[37:54] I'm big, Rogan is.

Speaker 5:
[37:55] I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But I didn't know his status and his financial situation. All right. So when he said that, I was like, ain't no money in the podcast like that. And then I Googled the network. I was like, let's talk that podcast thing. I didn't know what that situation was. And then at the time, I was kind of dabbling with YouTube and stuff. At the time, I was building my shit up. I had like 5,000 subs at one point. And I had this content dude that just took my page down. And I was like, I didn't want to start from zero. So I said, how do I start? He said, how do I start? He said, it's simple. He said, you do a podcast, do it on anything. Do it on your phone. You do a podcast. He said, I'll post it on my...

Speaker 6:
[38:40] Is Rogan telling you this?

Speaker 5:
[38:42] Yeah, he said, I'ma post it on my platforms. And then you go do the circuit, bam, right? Nobody on the urban side of it had no ideas for me like that. Nobody was like, come over here, we're gonna help you.

Speaker 1:
[38:55] It makes you say black people. It wasn't with them, yeah.

Speaker 5:
[38:59] I'm not saying, I'm saying wasn't with me like that, all right?

Speaker 1:
[39:03] That's different.

Speaker 5:
[39:04] This was before the buttons and all that type of shit.

Speaker 3:
[39:06] Got to start by that too.

Speaker 5:
[39:07] But what he said was, it wasn't no fear about free pause. It was no fear about being bigger.

Speaker 1:
[39:19] Okay.

Speaker 5:
[39:19] That's a pause. It was that it was just like this, yo, this is community. We can help each other out. I don't know where that exists or maybe I didn't have the opportunity to see any of that. When I say that, that's what I mean by that.

Speaker 1:
[39:34] Just make some noise for that guy.

Speaker 5:
[39:35] Yes. But comedians don't fuck with each other. Everybody, they don't. They don't. It's like dumb competition. There's a lane for everybody. That's why I don't fuck with comedians like that.

Speaker 1:
[39:54] It hurts me.

Speaker 3:
[39:55] Are you back fucking with me today?

Speaker 1:
[39:58] Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 4:
[39:58] Can I get you back?

Speaker 5:
[39:59] No, we sit. After your heart.

Speaker 4:
[40:02] I need you, bro. No. I need you. I'm a bitch ass. Can we start over, bro?

Speaker 6:
[40:07] Sing, I need love or something?

Speaker 4:
[40:09] Well, when I first moved to New York, bro, and there was me and my homegirl, you and your homegirl, y'all looked out for us. I didn't know where to get no coke from. None of that.

Speaker 1:
[40:18] Wait a minute. What?

Speaker 4:
[40:21] What?

Speaker 6:
[40:22] What are you doing? Like Coca-Cola or Coca-ina?

Speaker 4:
[40:26] What y'all talking about? Which one is acceptable?

Speaker 5:
[40:30] No, I'm gonna tell you. What I did was, this is what I did. I don't know what happens after this, but...

Speaker 4:
[40:37] I need you. I need you. I'll do anything.

Speaker 5:
[40:39] You can be by yourself.

Speaker 4:
[40:40] I'll do anything.

Speaker 5:
[40:41] You're gonna be by yourself, son. That's all you. I'm just saying, this is what I did.

Speaker 4:
[40:45] I didn't wipe your ass.

Speaker 5:
[40:47] That's what I said to myself, and when I was going through that, I was like, going back, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna let him do his thing, and I'm gonna continue to do my thing. And then the way, like, the way I either get back at people or if I want to prove something, I just keep with my journey. I keep going hard, and then you'll just see what I'm doing. You know, I'm gonna tell you, it did, it fucked me up because you, it threw me off because we was cool.

Speaker 4:
[41:13] We were better than cool. You came to my party and bullshit show, you got hooked up with my own chef, you took her to the Radio City Music Hall, blew up.

Speaker 5:
[41:21] you talk too much.

Speaker 4:
[42:01] It ain't on me without you, bro. It ain't on me without you, bro.

Speaker 6:
[42:06] Oh, shit.

Speaker 4:
[42:07] Can we please start over? And I mean this in the most heterosexual way.

Speaker 5:
[42:11] No, we good.

Speaker 6:
[42:13] Okay, we playing Quick Tire of Sly.

Speaker 1:
[42:15] Quick Tire of Sly.

Speaker 6:
[42:16] Oh, shit.

Speaker 1:
[42:18] I'm sorry.

Speaker 6:
[42:18] No, no, come on, Jack.

Speaker 4:
[42:20] I'm in. I'm in.

Speaker 1:
[42:23] And you playing the game, too.

Speaker 6:
[42:24] He tearing up, man. He tearing up over here.

Speaker 5:
[42:26] He can't tear up. I'm in.

Speaker 6:
[42:28] I mean, one tear, one tear.

Speaker 3:
[42:30] He got one tear, this.

Speaker 1:
[42:31] I'm sorry. One side. All right.

Speaker 6:
[42:36] You ready?

Speaker 5:
[42:38] Let's make this fair.

Speaker 1:
[42:39] Okay.

Speaker 5:
[42:39] You wanna hug?

Speaker 6:
[42:57] We will play our drinking champ.

Speaker 3:
[42:58] By the way, we've been waiting to get Donnell on the show. We want to give you your flowers.

Speaker 1:
[43:04] We really want to give you your flowers, ma'am, because you are one of the funniest people on the planet. I can kid you not.

Speaker 5:
[43:13] I agree.

Speaker 1:
[43:14] Yes, I agree as well.

Speaker 4:
[43:15] Me too.

Speaker 1:
[43:17] You are one of the funniest.

Speaker 5:
[43:22] I'm not saying that. People are like, oh, he's cocky. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I'll say that. This is what I'll tell, and I'll tell everybody. I do have a nice resume. I've been a part of some iconic, historical things that resonated. Dave told me one, he said, do you realize the last 30 years, there's no comedian that can say, the top shows that resonate with pop culture, HBO's The Wire, The Corner, BMF, 20s. There's like nobody that do it, that has done that. But I don't pride myself on that. And I tell people all the time, if you became a fan of mine from The Wire, The Corner, Chappelle's Show, Guide Code, all the Law and Order series, the fucking voice I did on Soul. And that show went on to win an Oscar. I've been a part of stuff that won an Emmy. I don't care about them. If you get a part of that, that's cool. I guarantee you, if you come see me live, in your face, stand up, that's where I want to validate who I am. And that's where I want to show you that I'm a bad.

Speaker 1:
[44:26] No, you're a bad. All right, so I'm gonna go, I'm gonna start it off.

Speaker 6:
[44:31] We didn't tell them the rules yet.

Speaker 1:
[44:32] I'll tell them the rules.

Speaker 6:
[44:33] All right, we're gonna give you two choices.

Speaker 5:
[44:35] Last time I drunk this much, I was on TMZ. I hope that don't happen when I walk out the door.

Speaker 6:
[44:39] Get ready. We're gonna give you two choices. If you pick one, we don't drink.

Speaker 5:
[44:44] Right.

Speaker 6:
[44:44] But if you say both or neither of them, like you really don't want to answer, then we all drink, a shot or whatever.

Speaker 5:
[44:51] So did you get them?

Speaker 1:
[44:53] Yep. I'm just gonna say yes.

Speaker 5:
[44:56] These nuts. All right, go ahead. I love bringing that shit back. Hurry, five years. What do you do again?

Speaker 1:
[45:09] All right, so this is a drinking game. This is our drinking game. And so we're gonna ask you, right?

Speaker 6:
[45:17] I thought you were gonna... We're gonna give you two choices. Uno, dos.

Speaker 1:
[45:22] Uno, dos, okay.

Speaker 6:
[45:23] If you pick one, we don't drink, nobody drinks. We just keep going to the next one.

Speaker 5:
[45:28] Oh, if you don't pick one.

Speaker 6:
[45:29] But if you don't pick, you say both of them, you want to be politically correct. You don't want to answer, no, neither of them, then we just all drink.

Speaker 5:
[45:35] Can I take a drink right now?

Speaker 4:
[45:36] Go for it.

Speaker 1:
[45:38] Let's wait, let's wait, let's wait.

Speaker 6:
[45:39] And really, this is for anybody that, anything, any stories that come up out of these people, the places or whatever.

Speaker 1:
[45:45] So one million percent, this is probably my favorite question. And that's the cocaine session over there.

Speaker 6:
[45:53] You got your shots? Diana, because we get shots for Jack too?

Speaker 1:
[45:56] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[45:56] Diane, 30 Diana, let's do it.

Speaker 1:
[46:00] That's our system, man.

Speaker 6:
[46:01] Yeah, you got to relax.

Speaker 5:
[46:03] You got to relax. See, you up to the same shit.

Speaker 6:
[46:07] You got to relax.

Speaker 5:
[46:08] That's why nobody like you now.

Speaker 6:
[46:10] And then you can fill this up for him too. So he has something else.

Speaker 1:
[46:14] Dave Chappelle or Eddie Murphy? And we could take a shot.

Speaker 6:
[46:21] You're leading the witness, man.

Speaker 1:
[46:22] I'm leading the witness.

Speaker 6:
[46:25] And why?

Speaker 5:
[46:26] I'm gonna take a shot, why?

Speaker 1:
[46:27] Take a shot. And then let's explain why.

Speaker 5:
[46:29] Go Jack, drink.

Speaker 4:
[46:30] I'm gonna tell you why.

Speaker 5:
[46:32] The reason why I want to say that, because that question comes up a lot, but it's not fair because we never got to see Eddie Murphy develop into a true, true stand up.

Speaker 1:
[46:44] But he didn't want to, right? He didn't want to, like he didn't, he didn't.

Speaker 5:
[46:48] That has nothing to do with answering the question. Okay, my bad. What I'm saying is we never saw him develop into doing six or seven specials. We caught Eddie on stage when he was such a big star, not taken away from any of the specials he did. He was such a big star, you wanted to be in his presence, you wanted to be in the presence of a superstar. Now, when you, and Eddie has even mentioned this, he respects and appreciates Dave as a standup. I don't think Eddie Murphy could have done what Dave Chappelle does. I don't think Dave Chappelle could have done what Eddie Murphy does. Eddie Murphy is a global, international movie star.

Speaker 6:
[47:29] Superstar, he's a megastar.

Speaker 5:
[47:30] I'm saying Dave is a star, but he's like a standup star. It's not even, when you ask that question, you're never going to get the right answer. You're never going to get the right answer because they're two different beasts. And a lot of people don't give Eddie enough credit. Yes, he did raw. He did delirious, nervous. But I don't know how people understand how hard it is to be a box office draw for all of those years. Dave has made money for people. Eddie has made billions for the industry. So that's an unfair comparison. And they both have different skill sets. And both of them are masters at what they do.

Speaker 1:
[48:19] I ain't going to lie to you, that was the best answer I've heard. Listen, he's been answering this question for 10 years on Drink Champs. And that is the best answer.

Speaker 5:
[48:28] It's the real. You killed it.

Speaker 3:
[48:29] You keep on talking.

Speaker 1:
[48:30] That is the best answer.

Speaker 6:
[48:31] Well, that leads into the next one.

Speaker 3:
[48:33] Okay.

Speaker 6:
[48:33] Kevin Hart or Chris Rock?

Speaker 5:
[48:37] I'm going to be drunk when I finish this show.

Speaker 1:
[48:40] Let's do this shit.

Speaker 5:
[48:40] I need more, then I guess.

Speaker 6:
[48:42] You don't have more in that one? Right there? The little cup right there.

Speaker 2:
[48:44] There's a little cup for you.

Speaker 6:
[48:45] Oh, there you go. What you doing there, Jack?

Speaker 1:
[48:48] She's our sister.

Speaker 6:
[48:49] Oh, you're pouring a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[48:50] She's our sister. Yo, Shalu.

Speaker 2:
[48:53] That's a lot for you.

Speaker 1:
[48:54] And yo, this is 10 years in the making. I've been, we've been trying to get Donnell on here.

Speaker 5:
[49:00] And the reason why, let me answer that. The reason why I'm going to say that, because when we do this, they loaded questions. And another thing, comedy is subjective. And then you can't compare, it's hard to compare generational shit. You know what I'm saying? Now, you're talking about, in regard to a word, a word.

Speaker 1:
[49:18] Kevin Hart and...

Speaker 5:
[49:19] Chris Rock, as we said, a word. Kevin's pen is not like Chris Rock's pen.

Speaker 4:
[49:26] Nobody's.

Speaker 5:
[49:27] You know what I mean? Chris Rock is like, I've worked with Chris, I've been on the road with Chris. And I've seen how that nigga is like a fucking scientist. That got clipboards and cards and everything. Bop, bop, bop, bop, he's doing that. Kevin Hart does that, but Kevin Hart has a team that does that. Kevin Hart, again, Kevin Hart is a movie star. Chris Rock is not a movie star. The Black Cup. Chris Rock is not a movie star. And I guess if you say to Chris, What's the shit now? Are you going to let me talk?

Speaker 4:
[49:56] Sorry about that.

Speaker 5:
[49:59] What I'm saying, what I'm trying to say is...

Speaker 4:
[50:03] Let me do my mic out the way.

Speaker 3:
[50:06] No, what I'm trying to say is...

Speaker 5:
[50:11] They're two different things. I guarantee you, if you ask Chris Rock, what would he rather be, a movie star or a comedy star? I guarantee you, he'd be like this. All I want to do is tell jokes, live my life the way I want, or whatever, and just fucking write jokes and go whenever. I hung out with him the other day. There was me, Dave and Neil. Me, Dave, Chris, and Moe Hammer. It was in LA, Dave was doing a little pop-up. And I'm in the back of this house back there. I was like, God damn, look at your life, This is what I'm saying myself.

Speaker 1:
[50:45] Are you talking about Chris Rock?

Speaker 5:
[50:47] Chris Rock. It was Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, and me, and Moe Hammer. In the conversation, I was like... Who was Moe Hammer?

Speaker 1:
[50:58] Moe Hammer.

Speaker 5:
[51:00] Yeah, Moe.

Speaker 1:
[51:01] Yeah, Moe.

Speaker 5:
[51:02] He has a show. What's the name of the show?

Speaker 1:
[51:04] This is my man, Moe.

Speaker 6:
[51:05] Palestinian.

Speaker 4:
[51:07] Oh, buddy! Hell yeah.

Speaker 2:
[51:08] I'm sorry.

Speaker 6:
[51:09] We had it.

Speaker 2:
[51:10] He's on...

Speaker 4:
[51:10] He's been to Drink Champs.

Speaker 6:
[51:11] Drink Champs alumni.

Speaker 5:
[51:12] Yeah, that's good. That's right. Nothing else in there. Ain't no groovy bitches. Ain't none of that dumb shit. And we just talking and shit. And Chris was like... He said, man, I'm never gonna spend a winter in New York. And he was like, I'm too rich to be in colds. Like, I'm in a situation, I don't gotta be freezer in New York when I got a place in Santa Monica. Then we was having a conversation. And he's like, man, I just want to buy... I just want to get properties like... They can say I want to buy some property on the gold coast, right? Australia. And I'm like, man, look at my life. I'm talking to to talk about buying property overseas. These are I want to beat. Jack, you'll never see me again. I was just saying, we over eating smoked duck and horned visit, right?

Speaker 3:
[52:04] Let's eat smoked duck.

Speaker 5:
[52:10] I think Adam Sandler is about to do some new shit, whatever. He's talking about this shit. And I was like, I could tell, only thing he gave a fuck about is just doing stand up, living life as easy as possible and having a good time. You got Chris Rock on that. And then you got Kevin Hart is like, I want to make all the money I can right now. And I've worked hard enough where people could say, Kevin does this, Kevin does that. That created a brand where he's already passed generational wealth. Right, for sure. But he's a different, he's just a different person. Like when you do these comparisons, you can't compare, because everybody got their own lane. And then I would say even with Kevin Hart, I get defensive when motherfuckers talk about people that I was in the mud with. I get defensive when people talk about people that I saw they grind. I'm not talking about the grind the media's saying. I'm not talking about the dumbass motherfuckers that want to say, well, how did Kevin Hart blow up like this, when he was that dumbass shit? I'm going to tell you, I'll tell you how Kevin Hart blew up. The constantly connected with his community. He respected every fan from the first one to the last one. He let people go on that journey with him. And he did some shit when he came from Philly. He used to go do the rooms and then he'd do the mainstream rooms. He knew that the room would give me some pussy and I'd get some laughs and whatever. But these other rooms, where the people come to see you, you're going to get on. talk all of this shit about keeping real and all this type of shit. When I first started, you could have the most gangster room. We all hear stories, Club 559, all of these clubs, all of these clubs in the chilling circle, you want to say, that produced the best memories and had the best nights. But we're the producers there. We're the directors there. We're the people that's going to give you a shot to be on one of the biggest stages that a comedian could have, the Just For Laugh Comedy Festival in Montreal. This was a festival, you go from nobody knowing you to, if you got the right seven minutes, you leave them with a quarter of a million dollars, and they might have never do nothing with you. You ask the question, how did Kevin do that? Because you don't have to be in New York to blow up in LA. Motherfuckers talking, well, how's that? No, the nigger got noticed in New York, validated in LA, and now here's the situation, let's do some work. And when you start doing these, Kevin Hart, Chris Rock, you can't. Everybody's on a different lane. But I do know that's more of an interesting, engaging conversation to have than that. When I hear talk about, when I hear, I don't want to do this. Do it. No, I can't talk about it. Do it. Okay, I'm not. But when I hear motherfuckers berate legends, when I hear niggas berate and talk shit about niggas that you wanted to be.

Speaker 4:
[55:31] Fuck them, Donnell.

Speaker 5:
[55:32] Let me talk. I need my moment, nigger. I don't just curb your eye when it be floating all over the place. When I see motherfuckers have any despairing words to say about pioneers, it fucking ruffles my shit. A motherfucker, if you in this business, like Dave Chappelle, like Martin Lawrence, how dare you ever talk shit about them?

Speaker 1:
[56:08] You can't.

Speaker 5:
[56:09] When I first started, nigger, everybody wanted to audition to be a bartender on Martin's show. I don't give a fuck what you think about Martin now. I don't give a fuck what you say he ain't. You so crazy. No, the nigger is an older nigger. If you respect the, respect what he did for TV the time that they had, Go see a nigger that can't talk. It don't matter. Richard Pryor, before he passed away, they was rolling the nigger out in the wheelchair and he was shaking. I ain't being funny. The nigger was shaking. And guess what would do?

Speaker 4:
[56:53] That's what you did.

Speaker 5:
[56:54] So, and this, I'm not being particular. I don't want to be that gossip nigger. If you in this business, what we do, and you talk shit about motherfuckers that paved your way. Dave Chappelle's singer, Hanley, told the one community to fuck out my face. When everybody get in camps, fuck out my face. Say what you want to say. I'm going to fuck it. I ain't trying to be insulted or anything. I stood up for you in comedy. Any niggers that ever talk shit about them type niggers, and I'm just going to say like this, and in the comments, y'all can try to figure out who it is. It could be a whole bunch of them niggers. You are a piece of shit.

Speaker 4:
[57:34] I help you kill all them niggers.

Speaker 5:
[57:36] You should have let me have that moment. See, this is why I start fucking with you.

Speaker 1:
[57:44] Don't, don't, don't, don't, stop. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot of me. Cheers, Phyllis. Cheers. Salud.

Speaker 5:
[57:50] And here's the irony of that. It's eight niggers watching someone. You talking about me?

Speaker 1:
[57:56] Salud.

Speaker 5:
[57:57] I'm talking about all three of y'all. I'm telling you, I remember, I'm from there. You know what I remember?

Speaker 1:
[58:09] You gotta finish your shot.

Speaker 5:
[58:09] I remember, let me tell you this. I'm sorry, but when niggas talking to me what they went through, I remember having cereal with no merch. What? Noreaga. Noreaga, I had noodles with no packet.

Speaker 1:
[58:39] Can I take the shot with you? I'm sorry.

Speaker 5:
[58:42] Pancakes. No sir. No sir. Jelly.

Speaker 1:
[58:51] No peanut butter.

Speaker 5:
[58:54] let me tell you how hard I go. I have pussy with no bitches.

Speaker 6:
[59:04] You ain't got no shot, man.

Speaker 5:
[59:07] you ain't no struggle. I had pussy with no bitches.

Speaker 4:
[59:14] That's real. That's real. That's real, That's hard.

Speaker 5:
[59:19] That's real, bro. I'm telling you, man.

Speaker 6:
[59:22] All right. Next one. Rich or Pride or Red Fox?

Speaker 5:
[59:44] And both of them, you said Rich or Pride? What do you say?

Speaker 6:
[59:47] Rich or Pride or Red Fox?

Speaker 5:
[59:49] Red Fox. Both of them, guess what? I respect their stories.

Speaker 6:
[59:52] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[59:54] First of all, this is what people don't understand. Rich or Pride wasn't always Rich or Pride. Rich or Pride didn't want to be Rich or Pride. You know what Rich or Pride wanted to be? Bill Cosby.

Speaker 6:
[60:03] But Bill Cosby dissed them, right?

Speaker 5:
[60:05] Let me tell you, that was after both of them had moderate sex. Rich or Pride was a singer, right? Rich or Pride didn't want to be Rich or Pride. He wanted to be Bill Cosby because Bill Cosby was working. Bill Cosby was getting the bitches. Bill Cosby was doing all that. And Richard was like this, oh shit, he was. I mean, I don't know how he was getting them. He was getting them. You know what I'm saying? Like he was getting sleepy bitches? I don't know. I don't know. Oh man. You are getting sleepy, right? And Bill Cosby was that guy. Richard Pryor was still rough around the edges. He was still gritty. And then, you know, sometimes when you see the guys that are ahead in his business, you start emulating them. You're like, if this worked for them, it could work for me, right? And then Richard Pryor tried to do that clean stuff and didn't work for him. So he had to find his own beginning. And then he had to become Richard Pryor. And you only become Richard Pryor, the only way you can become Richard Pryor, you got to have a life. You got to have a life. You have to been through it. And I want to say this, and I'm just going to give a shout out. And everybody's been talking about, everybody's been talking about who could play Richard Pryor, right? And to my understanding, it got close to it. It was going to go in production. It didn't happen. Marlon Wayans, they even leaked an audition he did. Marlon Wayans banged it. But of this generation right now, and it's of my opinion that the only person that could play Richard Pryor is Mike Epps. The only person I've seen when Mike Epps got close to doing that role, and, you know, he embodied it. I saw him in his stand-up. The hair was growing. And I would see him do his stand-up, and I could see he was working on something. And I was like, oh, shit, this thing is going to kill it. The mannerisms, the everything. But more importantly, a lot of times, the best actor, the way you connect is when you share similarities in the life. And Mike has been public on his struggles and the things that he's done. He's very transparent about it. He just did his special, Delusional, and I called him personally and said, man, that was a piece of art. I said, you did this shit, bro. I've known him for 30 plus years. We used to jump turnstiles together in New York and shit, right? I'm proud of the. I said, man, that was so much growth, so much evolution. I'm going to give him his flies right now. So much evolution. I said, the way you did that set, you started to begin it. Jokey, jokey, jokey, jokey. And I'm asking myself why is this special called Delusional? And then once he got through that first half of his special, and then when he started connecting, and he was talking about his life, the people that helped him, the people that did everything, that's when I said that mother fucker is the shit. And I think that that dude could fucking kill that boy.

Speaker 4:
[63:11] Let's get it up for Mike!

Speaker 6:
[63:19] Martin Lawrence or Damon Waynes?

Speaker 5:
[63:23] Okay, let me, I've been telling these stories so much, I don't understand what's the comparison. When you say funny, what is it, what is it?

Speaker 6:
[63:30] It's really, whatever the criteria, your mic could be someone that's, just you happen to be closer with, it could be someone that you think is funny or someone that-

Speaker 5:
[63:36] Who is it, what, who did you say?

Speaker 6:
[63:38] Martin Lawrence or Damon Waynes? There's no specific criteria, it's whatever personal to you.

Speaker 5:
[63:43] What's, I'm having a drink again. I love both of them. Okay. And the reason why I love them for different reasons. Damon Waynes came from a family of just- Legends. So much legends, so much, so much, so much, just they were just a great family. Yeah. But then there was a moment when fucking Marlon was that guy. You went to, that's when specials were specials. You couldn't wait for a Martin Lawrence, Marlon Waynes situation. And then Martin came at this young big ear motherfucker. Wow. You know what he's talking about, dude. They both made an impact on comedy at different times. And Martin Lawrence, like Martin Lawrence, I tell you, one of the things that made me think about doing comedy, I remember I was in Maryland, right? And I wasn't even a comedian at the time, right? And I had this chick over at my apartment and we was watching HBO, right? And they said bzzz. Back in the day when bzzz on HBO, you meant something like bzzz, Sopranos. It was like, you was like bzzz, right? And they said, give it up. They said Martin Lawrence special, right? They said, Martin Lawrence, crowd goes crazy. Martin Lawrence, this is what fucked me up. Martin Lawrence first joke, he said, give it up for a brother making money the right way. He said, when you making money the right way, you could tell your lady shit like, shut the fuck up. Wawawawa. And she'll shut up, too. She'd be like, you so crazy. For 20 years of my career, I was like, you giving me my flowers eating fried chicken?

Speaker 3:
[65:32] What the?

Speaker 5:
[65:37] Yo! Yo! And you ain't cutting or nothing, You eating fried chicken right in front of my story. This just said, this just said, share it with one of the greatest moment of your career. And then you just pull out a three-piece. And the worst thing, you don't even offer a nothing, son. God damn! That's what you waited 10 years to eat chicken in front of me? Yo! He said, man, 10 years, I want to order a three-piece right in front of you with a with a diamond eyeball, My bad, my bad. Martin Lawrence, this is when I said to myself, this dude is different and it inspired me because Martin Lawrence didn't have the greatest jokes or anything, but he just had this energy that resonated with everybody. When I saw that I was in the bed with this chick and I got up and I was like, this is the shit. And it kind of inspired me to say, you know what, maybe this could be the journey because it wasn't nothing special. It was just like, when you watched Martin, you saw just like a regular dude, like round the way, having a fucking good time. But.

Speaker 6:
[67:07] Let's go to the next one. JB Smoove or Faze On Love?

Speaker 4:
[67:11] I like this.

Speaker 5:
[67:12] JB Smoove, JB Smoove, JB Smoove, JB Smoove. Oh, you're picking something. So much, five times, I would say, die line, die line, die line, die line. JB Smoove over Faze On Love. And the reason why I'll say that, because this is one thing I'll reason why I'll say that, because this is just continuing to do comedy. This is just continuing to grow. This is continuing to work in that craft. And this just sit back like serpents and shit and just wait, just to talk shit about somebody. And just to say this person is that person and they ain't doing nothing. So in that, I usually try to say the difference in everything, but JB Smoove, 1000% over Faze On Love.

Speaker 6:
[67:49] Mike Epps or Chris Tucker?

Speaker 5:
[67:52] I both respect both of them for different reasons. But the thing about both of them, both of them, they were movie stars. You know what I'm saying? Mike Epps and Chris Tucker, for their generations, they represented that hot comedian at the moment, especially with the franchise of Fridays. You know what I'm saying? Both of them, they come from the same shit. But Mike has been more consistent with stand up. And Chris is just kind of just chill and go get money whenever he feels like it.

Speaker 4:
[68:26] Let me ask you this. If you think if Mike Epps had did Friday, the first Friday, would it still have the same same impact?

Speaker 5:
[68:33] Yeah. And the reason why, because the reason why I feel like that, it wasn't it wasn't the fact that they was doing something new was bigger than who they put in that slot. The fact that they was doing black independent filmmaking, you could have been smoking.

Speaker 4:
[68:52] Me?

Speaker 5:
[68:53] Don't get caught up. The point I'm making is, the point I'm making, the point I'm making, what they sold was the story.

Speaker 4:
[69:00] Hold on, tell me about it. So you're saying that if I was smoking, this shit would have popped off. And I would be with-

Speaker 5:
[69:08] No, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, you would have had the platform to be smoky. You would have had the platform to showcase whatever it is. First off-

Speaker 4:
[69:19] Because it's the first of its kind.

Speaker 5:
[69:20] It's the first of its kind. And not only that, it's Q dabbling into something else, music, oh shit. That wasn't designed-

Speaker 4:
[69:28] It's about the franchise.

Speaker 5:
[69:29] It's the franchise. That wasn't designed to win. That was designed for Ice Cube to look like, you could get back in the booth.

Speaker 6:
[69:37] Right, right.

Speaker 5:
[69:38] It was designed to fail. One of its kind, doing something, it was designed to fail. But you can-

Speaker 6:
[69:44] You're talking about from the industry standpoint, not from the Cube standpoint.

Speaker 5:
[69:47] No, no, no. The industry.

Speaker 6:
[69:48] Right, right.

Speaker 5:
[69:49] We don't understand anything about this. What is this? They don't understand that. But the thing was, they knew their market. They knew who was going to watch it. They knew it. Same thing with Def Comedy Jam, which made Def Comedy Jam so dope. Shout out to Russell Simmons. Shout out to Stan Latham. Shout out to Bob Summer. What made it, it came from a desire to do something else. It came from, we don't have another outlet. Def Jam came from, there's this underground circuit of black comics, this culture that's busted right now, but we don't have a platform to showcase it. They was putting a nigger on David Letterman every two years. We knew that we had to try it, so they knew they had the idea. Now, all we got to do, if we're passionate about this idea, we know it's going to work. Just give us the platform for everybody to see it, and we'll show you what we're talking about. And that's what happened with that. And Noreaga said earlier about what show made you want to come home or whatever, that was Def Jam. Def Jam, it was like 12 midnight. At 12 midnight, you had to be there. I don't know if y'all remember that for the run of Def Jam, one of the best things was New Year's Eve, because nobody was doing marathons. They were running a Def Jam marathon. It started at 12 midnight, and you will watch it. And I'm telling you, for whatever people thought of what I did on Def Jam, I remember, I came, my episode that I did was some more JB. Anthony and someone else. J. Anthony Brown, some more, and Wyatt the One-Man Riot. I don't even know if he's doing comedy anymore. Somebody said, yo, you was on the New Year's Eve special. I was the first comic to come out of that gate. That meant a lot to me.

Speaker 4:
[71:39] Well, hold on. You got to touch by an Angel story.

Speaker 5:
[71:43] Why?

Speaker 4:
[71:43] Because Mike Epps, I'm sorry, Michael Blackson, he was a DJ episode.

Speaker 5:
[71:49] I tell him all the time. I tell him all the time. Def Comedy Jam, when you did Def Comedy Jam, that's why when I see the success Mike Blackson has right now, Def Comedy Jam used to be four comedians with tape. One comedian was going to get cut. Don't matter if it was funny or not, they had to make a choice. These three out of four. And I was a very young comic at the time. I didn't know a thing about being on TV or whatever. And I had a set. I talked about Fat Tonneau stealing my bike as a kid. The story used to rip from when I first started. It was a very good story. Your childhood bully. Yeah, your childhood bully. But this was a time when was doing one or two jokes, get a stand ovation, and you fucking rich the next day. So I did my set and I wasn't the strongest act on that show. I was funny. I wasn't the strongest act. Michael Blackson went on and Michael Blackson, the last comment that went on, he completely demolished this audience. Yo, now, the next day, he was going to be on the level of, I ain't scared of you. It was one of those sets that would change your life. Destroyed it, and the got greedy. He went for the encore, encore. And he used to do this joke, he had this prosthetic penis in his pants, right? He said, in something to this effect, he said, I'm African, you know what they say, Africans, we have a big dick, right? Everybody going crazy, the voice is going crazy. They go, ah, I'm like, leave. leave, you got it. And they say, you want to see my big, my African dick? And ah, he pulled out a prosthetic dick about this long. The crowd went crazy. It was crazy, but this was, HBO was like this, y'all going hard, but y'all going too hard. Yo, he put a dick on it.

Speaker 4:
[73:53] That was harder than real sex. That was harder than real sex.

Speaker 5:
[73:56] Yeah, that motherfucker did that. And it was just like, he ripped so hard, they had to cut it out. And this is what the time was. At that time, all of us was only probably doing comedy for a year, max a year and a half. And all you want to do is be on Def Comedy Jam. And that, what I'm really pleased about, what Mike did was, that could have been a blow to anybody. But he kept on with his brand and everything. And now, you know, he getting three bitches pregnant at the same time.

Speaker 3:
[74:24] Come on, y'all.

Speaker 4:
[74:25] Come on, y'all give it up for three bitches pregnant. Come on, come on, come on, baby. What else we got here?

Speaker 6:
[74:33] And shout out to Kid Capri, who used to spin on Def Comedy Jam. I used to, as an aspiring DJ coming up, I was always watching for him.

Speaker 5:
[74:39] So many, so many. It's interesting if you look at that, you look at the history of it and everything. It's so interesting because there's not a lot of people from that generation are still doing it.

Speaker 6:
[74:51] Right.

Speaker 5:
[74:51] That's why when people talk shit about, you know, like everybody wants to use OG, old head. That's OK. But not too many people can say they've been through three generations and still doing it and still having fun with it and still making it lucrative.

Speaker 6:
[75:03] Yep. All right.

Speaker 4:
[75:05] They got to get up for that.

Speaker 5:
[75:09] All right.

Speaker 6:
[75:09] Bert Kreisner or Tony Hinchcliffe? Hinchcliffe.

Speaker 5:
[75:13] First off, Bert Kreisner. And the reason why I say that is because I want to kill Tony. I saw what you did. I want to kill that nigger. That was a mistake! Yo, give me a shot, that was a mistake! That's all you, man. Let me tell you something. He knows the history of it. First off, what I will say, I say, I say fuck kill Tony, but what I will say, kill Tony is like the equivalent. It's like the white death jam. The reason why I say that, it's a platform that you can get on. He's got, he built an audience. Check it for him. Cam Patterson.

Speaker 4:
[75:57] Yeah. I don't say, he came from Kill Tony.

Speaker 5:
[75:59] So it's, but it's a platform. It's the biggest YouTube comedy show out.

Speaker 4:
[76:05] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[76:05] But, yeah, I was just on the other day, but you know, it's not a friendly brand. It's all nasty, negative. This is what Kill Tony niggas are. The comment Kill Tony is that that want to be comedians don't got the heart to do it. And then they get on their keyboard and they just be like, yeah, on the hits. They love that type shit. They have the most potential to be school shooters or pedophiles. No, I'm just telling the truth. I'm just telling the truth. They won't even be a school shooter, a pedophile or kill themselves, son. No, I'm not being funny, son. Tell them the that like that show. They want to jerk off and shoot themselves in the head. Yeah, they like this, yeah, I'll kill you. Fuck me, I never loved you, mom. They like this, fuck you, mom.

Speaker 6:
[77:03] You're not my mom.

Speaker 4:
[77:07] Hold on, I gotta know, did you know that Wynita was a man, a woman?

Speaker 5:
[77:12] Let me tell you a story. So if you don't know the story, I'm doing a show and they have this bucket pool. They pull people out, they come out and they tell jokes, right? So you don't know who it could be. They can be from anywhere, right? So an image, I'm going to say this, an image walks out, right? And where I'm from.

Speaker 4:
[77:26] Image. What, an avatar?

Speaker 5:
[77:31] Yo, say what the image was.

Speaker 4:
[77:35] It was a tram.

Speaker 5:
[77:36] Okay, it was a tram. Okay, this is what it was. I was using my peripheral. I'm telling the story, it's 3D. So, the nigger bitch walked out. So, I'm looking from my side. I'm not, I'm not looking directly at shim.

Speaker 4:
[77:59] Shim. Did they have a fat ass? Did they have a fat ass?

Speaker 5:
[78:04] The sugar.

Speaker 4:
[78:05] And some nice titties.

Speaker 5:
[78:07] The sugar is over there. And I'm not looking at the sugar. Right? Cause I'm just using this part of my eyes. Let me tell a story, sir. So, I'm looking, come out. Yeah. come out, Tony over there like, okay, this is here. Right? So, I'm not really looking at the, right? And this, this start singing a song. Mind you, the object is over there, right? This started singing a song. It was like, buddy, you're in Christ. The snigger was making an gospel song, right? She was sniffing, sniffing. Google it, nigga, don't believe me. Google it, sniff it. So the snigger is up there like, and the snigger, I'm not, I'm using my peripheral. So I don't really know what the snigger looked like, right? This snigger looked like. Exactly, nigga, that's the snigger. But look, do it from the side.

Speaker 2:
[79:19] Use your peripheral, nigga.

Speaker 5:
[79:21] I saw it like on his eye. Put it on that side of his eye. That's what I saw. Let me tell you. So I see this snigger right here, right? This right here, right? So, they start singing a song. And I had a couple of these, right? So, and I'm sad because, you know, they say, they usually say, will fuck anything, right? So, the joke I'm trying to make, right? I said, you know what? A black man will say a song like this. This is what I said. This is what I fucked up, son. I said, this is what they got me with. I said, I said, I got a song. And this is what I said. I said, I represent black people in America, right? When I say, now, I'm trying to get fly and sing, I said, That's what I said. And I was like, yeah, nigga. And then Tony said, yeah, that's interesting. Until you find out Juanita is a man. I was like, oh! I miss smoke about the snicker. So now, I can't say nothing. Can't do it. So that's what he talked about Juanita. But they talk about, you ain't know that was, you ain't know that was a bitch.

Speaker 4:
[80:36] Juanita. Juanita.

Speaker 5:
[80:41] is looking at me, man, cut it if you want, cut it, But I said, like this. is like, is telling, calling me like this. You ain't know that was a bitch.

Speaker 4:
[80:52] No, in your defense, dog, it could have happened this way.

Speaker 5:
[80:55] Let me explain why. Yo, let me explain. no. That was the ugliest bitch I ever seen in my life. Let me tell you.

Speaker 1:
[81:04] Hey, cut that part out.

Speaker 5:
[81:06] Why me cutting shit, We talking.

Speaker 1:
[81:08] Okay.

Speaker 5:
[81:08] And I'm trying to tell y'all about Juanita.

Speaker 6:
[81:11] Tell us about Juanita, man.

Speaker 5:
[81:14] What happened with Juanita was they made jokes. They was like, how do you do that? No, I said, I live in the Midwest. I know bitches that really look like Juanita.

Speaker 6:
[81:27] They're the chicks.

Speaker 5:
[81:28] Yeah, they're the chicks. Juanita is- In Ohio, Juanita is a strong three.

Speaker 4:
[81:34] Bro, it's real. It's real. It's real, bro. It can happen to anybody.

Speaker 5:
[81:42] Juanita in the Hobby Lobby in the Midwest is getting the.

Speaker 3:
[81:46] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5:
[81:48] I'm telling you, son, welcome to the Wild. It's Juanita, get her hands around, smother cover dice and chunk the top. Smother cover dice, chunk the top.

Speaker 4:
[82:00] You waffle house that motherfucker.

Speaker 5:
[82:02] Do you know what? I think we can do this. And I know we played the game, right?

Speaker 6:
[82:07] No, we're not done with the game.

Speaker 5:
[82:08] No, we're not done with the game. No, we played the game. What I'm telling you, like, this is what I want to say, moving forward with the conversation, have a go. It's all subjective.

Speaker 6:
[82:16] Of course.

Speaker 5:
[82:17] And this the thing about it is what perception you have of that person. That's right. Everybody that you name on that list, I could talk about, I could praise them or I could shit on them. Now, for the most part, everybody on the list, I praise because they made the list.

Speaker 6:
[82:30] We prefer praising people.

Speaker 5:
[82:32] Yeah, I'm gonna praise, I know, I got roses. Shut the fuck up, son. Yo, these roses are the same shit that I-Bone made out of.

Speaker 6:
[82:42] You know what? That's a good idea.

Speaker 5:
[82:47] This got a rose eyeball.

Speaker 3:
[82:49] This eyeball is crazy.

Speaker 6:
[82:51] That's what we gonna give you next time we gonna give you your rose.

Speaker 3:
[82:54] We gonna give you your eyeball.

Speaker 5:
[82:56] So there's more on that list.

Speaker 6:
[82:57] Yeah, we halfway through.

Speaker 5:
[82:59] Halfway through. Yo, you know they call me the Crasso King, I might leave, son.

Speaker 3:
[83:26] Yeah, we did.

Speaker 5:
[83:34] Let me say this, let me say this.

Speaker 4:
[83:35] Do it again, Noreaga, what did he do?

Speaker 5:
[83:37] Let me say this, this is what, Kill Tony was an example of that. Muffin's had some, I'm gonna tell you an example of what you guys did. Kill Tony was that, the shit popping, all of a sudden everything shut down, you can't do it like you normally do. Niggas don't know how were scrambling to do a show. Y'all shit was fire! And all of a sudden, computers lagging. We like, we gon handle any pose, Tripping up on the clap.

Speaker 6:
[84:26] I think you straight up said, this ain't shit, this ain't shit!

Speaker 5:
[84:43] I want some tequila! Yo, let me say this. I want to do this toast to everybody. I want some tequila with no merch!

Speaker 1:
[84:58] And, and, and, and, I ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker 5:
[85:01] You know what gonna say, Donnell, you was fucked up. Change the name if you don't want me to drink.

Speaker 4:
[85:09] Come on now, tell that shit, Donnell.

Speaker 5:
[85:11] Yeah, you want drink change, yes. And guess what my plan was? To get lit!

Speaker 4:
[85:15] There you go, there you go.

Speaker 5:
[85:17] Let's do it! You got salt don't need to get up no more, Noreaga. You be having vegans up here now, What's that shit? act like be having doing smoothies and shit. Yo, you got eatin Aki balls. What's that shit?

Speaker 1:
[85:34] Aki?

Speaker 5:
[85:36] A-C?

Speaker 6:
[85:38] Lee, can you get him a drink? Where's Dan at?

Speaker 5:
[85:40] Yeah, Dan.

Speaker 1:
[85:41] You know what? This my Donnell Rawlings. I ain't gon fart. Your, your, your, your eyes fucking me up.

Speaker 5:
[85:50] You don't, don't look at the bleeding one, Chappelle. I'll, I'll, I'll love you. Yo, he got two eyes, one from Brentwood and the other one from Compton, Just think he got beef with his old eyes and shit, What y'all doing, man?

Speaker 1:
[86:09] All eyes on beef?

Speaker 4:
[86:12] That? What is it?

Speaker 6:
[86:14] All right, hold on, hold on, let's go back into QuickChats.

Speaker 5:
[86:16] My EFN's got a weed, son.

Speaker 1:
[86:17] All right, got it.

Speaker 6:
[86:18] That's his weed, son?

Speaker 5:
[86:18] Look, check this out. It's the new joint in the talk, too. Watch this. Yo, I'm telling you, watch this.

Speaker 3:
[86:24] He can't be walking around his white neighborhood, man. He looks suspect.

Speaker 4:
[86:27] Hey, look, boss, you know what else I'm a real-time boy, mother security guard. That's how I hold it.

Speaker 6:
[86:32] That's dope.

Speaker 5:
[86:32] Yo, can we do this? Who can roll?

Speaker 6:
[86:36] Right here, we got him.

Speaker 5:
[86:38] Can you roll some My EFNs? Yo, but, yo, yo, open it up, What's up?

Speaker 3:
[86:44] All right.

Speaker 5:
[86:47] I got some Mike Tyson too, You got Mike Tyson too? Yeah, I got Mike Tyson.

Speaker 6:
[87:02] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[87:09] And it was a little awkward.

Speaker 5:
[87:10] It's not awkward, she don't know why.

Speaker 6:
[87:15] She's mad cool.

Speaker 5:
[87:18] No, I'm saying, but like you said, she has an incense.

Speaker 1:
[87:21] Right.

Speaker 5:
[87:22] And the name of the incense was pussy.

Speaker 6:
[87:23] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[87:24] Urca by those pussy.

Speaker 4:
[87:25] You want to smell that?

Speaker 1:
[87:25] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[87:26] We are very aware.

Speaker 5:
[87:27] Did you smell her pussy?

Speaker 4:
[87:29] Need to smell that.

Speaker 1:
[87:29] I don't want to.

Speaker 5:
[87:30] I don't want to smell that. Yo, it ain't disrespectful. He just want to wipe somebody's ass, say. Yo, I can't even look at your face, nor you wipe another ass, say.

Speaker 4:
[87:44] That's my dog, man.

Speaker 5:
[87:46] I don't give a fuck who he is, that.

Speaker 6:
[87:47] I just know he misses the mark.

Speaker 5:
[87:49] I don't give a. you did this, No! Yo, did you do, did you do, did you go back, or you went back to?

Speaker 6:
[88:24] Do you use wet wipes, or you just dry toilet paper?

Speaker 4:
[88:26] No, no, we use wet wipes, dude wipes.

Speaker 5:
[88:30] you, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 4:
[88:32] I had three of them.

Speaker 5:
[88:33] You double-swiped this ass.

Speaker 4:
[88:37] Yeah, I had 12 on too.

Speaker 5:
[88:39] Oh, man.

Speaker 2:
[88:42] Last question, sir.

Speaker 6:
[88:43] No, we got 10 more.

Speaker 5:
[88:45] No, we can't do 10 more, sir.

Speaker 6:
[88:47] Deaf Comedy Jam or In Living Color?

Speaker 5:
[88:50] I've been drinking. I might as well keep going.

Speaker 6:
[88:52] Let's go.

Speaker 5:
[88:53] They both marked a part in history where nothing can talk to them. They could not have coexisted together. There had to be a time lapse between one to the other. They never would have coexisted together because you probably wouldn't have heard about either one of them. So both of them are iconic. Both of them represent something in a moment of time. In a moment of time, you couldn't fuck with neither one of them. They broke barriers. 11 Colors. The reason why you get to see motherfuckin Kendrick Lamar at the Super Bowl, the reason why you get to see Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl, the reason why you wonder who's gonna perform at the next Super Bowl, because when the halftime shit wasn't nothing, 11 Colors said, this is why these so gangsta, that's why I can't compare them to anybody else. They stand on their own merit. They was the first one to say, we going up against the halftime. Nigga, we're going to halftime show. Y'all tune in over here. And they killed it. And guess what happened next year?

Speaker 2:
[89:55] Michael Jackson. good shot, good shot.

Speaker 5:
[90:01] And here's the thing. It's so easy for us to try to pin each other against, but everybody that you mentioned, everything you said had a moment in time, man. How often do a get to have a moment in time? The YNs will tell you, and I got a problem with YNs, too. You know what I'm going to start doing YNs? Is this my camera? Is this my camera? You YN, can I say the realest shit I want to say? Yo, can I get a clap before I say this? This is OG talking to a YN. You, if you keep fucking with me, if you keep talking about, I'm not relevant, if you keep talking about this shit, YN, you know what I'm going to do to you? I'm going to start your mothers, Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[90:53] our mothers, man.

Speaker 2:
[90:55] Well, he said, fuck our mothers.

Speaker 3:
[90:56] What the is wrong?

Speaker 5:
[90:57] YN.

Speaker 4:
[90:58] There wasn't a single.

Speaker 3:
[90:59] YN.

Speaker 5:
[91:01] YN. Remember, your mother is a fan.

Speaker 4:
[91:07] See what you did.

Speaker 5:
[91:08] Slow down.

Speaker 4:
[91:08] I see what you did.

Speaker 5:
[91:09] I guarantee you they want to talk now.

Speaker 4:
[91:12] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[91:14] I bet you shut the fuck up now, You want to see receipts?

Speaker 4:
[91:18] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[91:18] YN. Your mother is in my DM, bitch ass.

Speaker 4:
[91:24] I hear you.

Speaker 6:
[91:27] Patrice O'Neill or Robin Harris?

Speaker 4:
[91:33] That's cold blooded right there.

Speaker 5:
[91:34] You heard what I said, I know we're going to keep answering this question. You heard what I said, Keep playing. Okay. What was the question?

Speaker 6:
[91:44] Patrice O'Neill or Robin Harris?

Speaker 5:
[91:46] Robin Harris. Respect for both of them, but Robin Harris, if I say, people ask me, do you think you emulate anybody's style? Are you close to anybody's style? Anybody's style, I thought I'd be close to is Robin Harris. The reason I say that Robin Harris was a storyteller, he could do a hack joke, he could tell a story. He was everything. Another fun fact they don't know about Robin Harris, Robin Harris was supposed to be the original host of Def Comedy Jam. Oh, really? Yeah. In his untimely death, Martin was right back there bubbling. Robin Harris from the Comedy Act Theater in LA, that was the style. If you think about Def Comedy Jam, if you know the history of Robin Harris, you'll know that was his element. Talk about people, bring the next person on. He's supposed to be that person. It didn't happen. He passed away, Martin Lawrence. So in regard to that, Robin Harris reminds me of, everybody has somebody in a family, right? That when you go to a family reunion, everybody knows the story, but it's only one person you want to hear tell a story. And that's what Robin Harris was.

Speaker 1:
[92:48] That's better. That was fantastic.

Speaker 6:
[92:54] Delirious or raw?

Speaker 5:
[92:57] They're the same thing, same person. And they both, if you think about it, this is how much in a moment, delirious and raw was. And how much comedy has evolved, the things that you could say, the things you couldn't say. In that moment, delirious and raw, it was just like, you could say whatever you want, right? If you play delirious and raw to a person right now, they'd be like, oh my God. In that moment, there was nothing with it. It was groundbreaking. It was timeless. And it was for that moment.

Speaker 4:
[93:28] Generation or special?

Speaker 5:
[93:29] Yep.

Speaker 6:
[93:30] John Candy or Sam Kinison?

Speaker 5:
[93:32] Sam Kinison. Sam Kinison was a beast.

Speaker 4:
[93:36] Yeah, he was.

Speaker 5:
[93:36] Sam Kinison was a dark person. Rockstar. You know what? Everybody talk about mental health and everything. Sam Kinison was, he was exploring mental health in front of his audience every time he performed. Straight up. Yeah. I'm still here.

Speaker 6:
[93:54] Jim Carrey or Bill Burr?

Speaker 5:
[93:56] Bill Burr. Bill Burr. Bill Burr. I've seen Bill Burr go from on tour with me and Charlie doing the I'm Rich Bitch Tour. I've seen Bill Burr go from probably like an $800 a week in a headliner that could pack an arena anywhere in the world. So Bill Burr.

Speaker 2:
[94:15] Anywhere in the world.

Speaker 6:
[94:17] Robin Williams or George Carlin?

Speaker 5:
[94:20] George Carlin. Robin Williams was, I mean, George Carlin, when he put it like this, Robin Williams was the actor that performed with George Carlin, was a purist. And Robin Williams, in some people's eyes, was a thief. But the most notorious thief you can have. A can steal your joke and tell it in the barbershop or bowling alley. Then a can steal your joke and make a movie or a TV show. The thing that people really hate about Robin Williams is that, as funny as he was, he wasn't the most pin craftsman dude. But if he got a hold of your shit, he was going to eat it up. And he just was a fucking, was a star.

Speaker 2:
[94:57] So you're picking Robin?

Speaker 4:
[94:58] I like it.

Speaker 2:
[94:58] Isn't that okay?

Speaker 5:
[94:58] No, no, I'm sorry. I'm not sorry. I meant to continue that. But people that know, they know that Robin Williams was a gimmick. He knew how to go do an audition and light the, he knew. And you could tell he was a gimmick because ain't no way you're going to be that happy and then kill yourself.

Speaker 6:
[95:18] Right, right, right. I see what you mean by that.

Speaker 4:
[95:21] That's good.

Speaker 5:
[95:21] You know, fuck.

Speaker 4:
[95:23] I ain't there you me up with that.

Speaker 6:
[95:24] Like you don't even mean gimmick in a negative way. You're meaning that he wasn't his true self.

Speaker 5:
[95:28] Yeah. Right. He showed y'all and then the killed himself.

Speaker 6:
[95:32] Right.

Speaker 5:
[95:33] But George Carlin was a purist. George Carlin probably was one of the only white guys in the neighborhood that could fuck a black chick if he wanted to. He resonated with everybody. And when you took the time to get to know who he was and how deep he was, George Carlin is a guy that every time you watch him, he'll get funnier and funnier and funnier.

Speaker 6:
[95:54] And the shit that he said in his specials resonates today more than ever.

Speaker 5:
[95:58] Yeah. He's like that. You know what? I will put George Carlin. Bill Burr has that type of energy. People have remembered Bill Burr the same way people have remembered George Carlin.

Speaker 6:
[96:07] All right. Now some hip hop shit. Jay-Z or Big Daddy Kane?

Speaker 5:
[96:10] That's a tough one, man. Because I never fucking got no pussy, like, off of thinking I would be Jay-Z. But I never wanted to be Jay-Z, sir. I wanted to be Big Daddy Kane, sir.

Speaker 4:
[96:30] That's my.

Speaker 5:
[96:31] Real talk, nigga. I'm sorry, y'all, but Big Daddy Kane got the type of pussy I wanted, sir.

Speaker 4:
[96:36] Smooth operator, baby.

Speaker 5:
[96:38] And a bitch like Big Daddy Kane might have liked me. I like it so you like Dawson's, bitch. That's what it is.

Speaker 6:
[96:49] Mobb Deep or Clips?

Speaker 5:
[96:51] Mobb Deep. Now, I got to take Mobb Deep off, because I think one of my girlfriends said she could have fucked them or she did.

Speaker 6:
[97:00] So you're taking them off the list?

Speaker 4:
[97:03] They happened to me too. They said they happened to me. They had to.

Speaker 5:
[97:07] This bitch used to tell me all the time, you know, I could have Tupac. Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[97:12] Cap Williams or Jamie Foxx?

Speaker 5:
[97:14] Jamie Foxx.

Speaker 6:
[97:15] Curb your enthusiasm or Seinfeld?

Speaker 5:
[97:17] Curb my enthusiasm because our curb enthusiasm was breaking away with some, both of them were. OK, I'm going to say, because they had my JB smooth for it.

Speaker 6:
[97:26] Last one. Tell them the last one.

Speaker 1:
[97:27] Loyalty or?

Speaker 5:
[97:29] Loyalty or what?

Speaker 6:
[97:30] Respect.

Speaker 5:
[97:31] I don't give a about this god damn show, all right? A came up on this bus, he ate fried chicken, didn't give a fuck about me. This put his good eye in just to fuck with me. And then I threatened to YN, and y'all see, I gave me roses, pissed the shit off my roses. So in true tradition, I'm a crash out kid, I don't give a fuck about this show. Book me another time, I'm out.

Speaker 6:
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