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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Welcome to Two Sons and Me. I have my son Chase, otherwise known as the baby of the family.
Speaker 2:
[00:08] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[00:08] And then I have my son Grayson, otherwise known as the servicing of the community of the family. How are you today, Chase?
Speaker 3:
[00:19] That's more him than me. I'm Chase.
Speaker 1:
[00:22] I have you on my mind all the time.
Speaker 2:
[00:23] Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[00:24] Because you're my favorite. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[00:27] He's the one that's nobody's favorite.
Speaker 1:
[00:29] He's my favorite. I love him.
Speaker 2:
[00:32] No, you don't.
Speaker 1:
[00:32] No.
Speaker 3:
[00:33] You might love him, but not as much as you love others.
Speaker 1:
[00:37] Yeah. Grayson.
Speaker 2:
[00:40] We can all agree on that.
Speaker 1:
[00:41] That's not true.
Speaker 2:
[00:43] I don't believe that.
Speaker 1:
[00:44] You do believe it.
Speaker 2:
[00:45] Right hand to God. I do not believe that at all.
Speaker 1:
[00:47] Well, then it's because you choose not to then. That's on you.
Speaker 3:
[00:51] I'm mom's favorite.
Speaker 1:
[00:52] I have never one time made a difference between any of y'all, nor have I ever said. What are you laughing at?
Speaker 2:
[01:02] Let's just cut the shit. I'm not your favorite or mama's favorite. That's mama's, Savannah's yours. That's how it is.
Speaker 1:
[01:11] It's not true. I love each of my children in a different way because each of y'all brings something different to the table. Savannah is a very calming factor for me because I know that if something needs to be done, she's going to get it done. Grayson is the baby of the family, the typical baby, and he allows me to still baby him. You bring me humor.
Speaker 2:
[01:38] Yeah, I'm a circus animal.
Speaker 3:
[01:39] A headache.
Speaker 2:
[01:40] I'm a circus animal for you.
Speaker 1:
[01:42] No. You give me laughs. You have a very tender heart, which has gotten you in a lot of trouble because your heart is soft. And Grayson has a...
Speaker 2:
[01:55] I ain't fucking soft.
Speaker 1:
[01:58] Oh my God. Folks, listen, I love all of my children in a different way because they all bring something special to that table.
Speaker 2:
[02:07] If we're on a boat, there's four life jackets.
Speaker 1:
[02:12] I taught all of y'all to swim. I taught every one of you to swim.
Speaker 2:
[02:16] If we can't swim and you can only save two people, and it's me, Savannah and Grayson, you're saving Savannah and Grayson.
Speaker 1:
[02:22] Savannah will swim. I'm going to save the weakest one, so you got it.
Speaker 2:
[02:28] No.
Speaker 1:
[02:29] You got it.
Speaker 2:
[02:29] I'm a better swimmer than both of them.
Speaker 1:
[02:33] That is true. But Grayson, all I would have to say to him is, are you going to let Chase out swim you? So then he's going to be okay.
Speaker 2:
[02:42] That is not the point of this.
Speaker 1:
[02:43] So then I might have to save Savannah because she is the weakest swimmer.
Speaker 3:
[02:46] She said that. I'd swim across the ocean before I stopped.
Speaker 1:
[02:49] Exactly.
Speaker 2:
[02:50] That wasn't the point of the question, Grayson. The point of the question was, you love them more. I understand the point of the question.
Speaker 1:
[02:55] I don't love them more.
Speaker 2:
[02:56] It's fine.
Speaker 1:
[02:57] That's not true.
Speaker 2:
[02:58] We're not going to say you're a liar.
Speaker 3:
[02:59] It is the truth. Don't lie to you.
Speaker 2:
[03:00] I know.
Speaker 3:
[03:01] You're not dad's favorite, you're not mom's favorite, and that's okay. You just need to accept that. You're papa's favorite.
Speaker 2:
[03:05] And when I win that mega million, I'm going to roguelike.
Speaker 3:
[03:08] You've been winning this mega million for the past 10 years.
Speaker 2:
[03:11] Well, shit, it's about time.
Speaker 1:
[03:12] It's every day with this one right here.
Speaker 2:
[03:15] It's every three days.
Speaker 1:
[03:16] I've got to run up to store. I've got to run up to store. And all I do is laugh. I told you mom, I said, I hope he wins this damn lottery more than anything. I said, so that way, if nothing else, we never have to hear about it again.
Speaker 3:
[03:31] You know you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than you do of winning the lottery?
Speaker 2:
[03:36] I would get struck by lightning in order to win the lottery, Grayson.
Speaker 1:
[03:41] You walk on in and get your lottery ticket with shit running down your legs and stuttering.
Speaker 2:
[03:45] If I would win, I would be in it, getting it. I don't care.
Speaker 1:
[03:51] You're so dumb.
Speaker 2:
[03:53] To win that, yeah, you could do some filthy things, some bad things to me.
Speaker 1:
[03:58] So listen, this is our new podcast. So I want to make sure that because we're getting our footing here, I'm figuring out what it is we're going to talk about each week and how we're going to handle this. So we've come up with a couple of categories that I think that we should focus on every week. One of those is dad was right, our dad was extra.
Speaker 2:
[04:26] That's another word for wrong, which is you have been before.
Speaker 3:
[04:30] He can't pronounce that word.
Speaker 2:
[04:33] Well, that's what it means.
Speaker 1:
[04:34] I don't remember ever being wrong. There was that one time back in 1989, but we'll not go there. So I want to ask each of y'all, Chase, what do you think over the course of me raising you as your dad that I was right on or that I was extra?
Speaker 2:
[05:01] I gotta have some examples.
Speaker 3:
[05:02] Yeah, it's hard to just go from...
Speaker 1:
[05:04] Okay, well then let's just say, was I right about your dating life? Or was I extra?
Speaker 2:
[05:15] With certain people, but you're definitely extra.
Speaker 1:
[05:18] Okay, extra.
Speaker 3:
[05:18] I feel like you're right and extra.
Speaker 1:
[05:21] So I can be right and extra?
Speaker 2:
[05:22] He's been right in certain situations.
Speaker 3:
[05:25] Sometimes he's just an asshole about it.
Speaker 2:
[05:26] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[05:27] But in what?
Speaker 2:
[05:28] Not to you.
Speaker 3:
[05:29] No, he is to me too.
Speaker 1:
[05:33] But see, y'all think that I talk about what y'all say.
Speaker 3:
[05:36] And he knows it pisses me off because he'll say something and I'll be like, all right, love you, bye.
Speaker 1:
[05:41] Okay, give an example of that.
Speaker 3:
[05:43] You just say like unnecessary stuff.
Speaker 1:
[05:45] Okay, then say it because that would mean that I'm extra. So then say it.
Speaker 2:
[05:48] I would say extra. I would say extra.
Speaker 3:
[05:51] I would say extra too.
Speaker 2:
[05:52] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[05:53] For what? Just the one thing?
Speaker 2:
[05:56] For like the, in my dating life, yes, I think you've been extra.
Speaker 1:
[06:00] Okay, give me some examples.
Speaker 2:
[06:03] I don't think with the people that I've dated, they've ever gotten like a clean cut fair shot.
Speaker 1:
[06:09] Chase, you've dated strippers?
Speaker 2:
[06:11] I never dated a stripper in my life.
Speaker 1:
[06:12] You brought one of them home.
Speaker 2:
[06:14] That was for TV. Uh-uh.
Speaker 1:
[06:16] You screwed her after.
Speaker 2:
[06:18] I did not. Yes, you did.
Speaker 1:
[06:19] Yes, you did.
Speaker 2:
[06:20] Mother of God. No, I did not. Left hand of God.
Speaker 1:
[06:25] You brought that crazy Spanish bitch up here that I had to throw out, went over and threw all your dishes out in the floor, dumped trash in the floor.
Speaker 2:
[06:33] Okay, I'm not saying that my track record is the best, but I was also 20 years old. But there have been some good ones in between the bad ones.
Speaker 1:
[06:44] I only know of one.
Speaker 2:
[06:45] No, there was two.
Speaker 1:
[06:47] Two. There was two out of at least 200.
Speaker 2:
[06:51] Well, whatever. I didn't bring all the other ones home.
Speaker 1:
[06:54] No, I got messages on Instagram about them.
Speaker 2:
[06:56] Oh, well, all these messages he gets, all those messages can kiss my ass. I'm just saying, I think that you've been extra on that. Like the good ones that I have dated, they haven't had a fair shot. And I feel like-
Speaker 1:
[07:07] I gave the one a fair shot. I gave the one a fair shot because she was pretty.
Speaker 2:
[07:11] Listen, every other- my siblings can date all these different people and they don't- they do not get walked through the gates of hell the way that I do.
Speaker 1:
[07:25] Grayson, he just said that I give him all this shit and then you chimed in and said, oh no, he says certain things. And I was like, bye, I love you. What are you referencing?
Speaker 3:
[07:39] I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[07:40] Now, if y'all gonna come on here and talk shit, I will say it.
Speaker 2:
[07:44] You know what, I have said it.
Speaker 3:
[07:46] You know what I mean? Like, it's not certain things. It's the way he says some stuff.
Speaker 2:
[07:51] But whenever he-
Speaker 3:
[07:52] And you're just like, all right, I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 1:
[07:54] Oh, then do it. How do I say it?
Speaker 2:
[07:56] Nothing.
Speaker 3:
[07:56] It's like, I'll tell him, like, something good that happened. And he goes, train in wheels. I'm like, why you got to reply with that?
Speaker 1:
[08:04] Okay, I knew he was coming with that. Because folks, listen, my boys, if they get a piece of tail, they're in love. They're looking for rings, want to put tattoos all over their dick and everything else to say, I'm yours, baby. So folks, they want to sit here. They fall in love every other day. So when I say training wheels, I'm saying that you are 19 years old. You might fall in love today, but you're going to fall out of love by next semester or the semester thereafter, because you're in college. I didn't send you to Bama to find a bride. I sent you to Bama to get an education.
Speaker 2:
[08:44] But if he finds one, then you knock out two birds with one stone. That is a possibility of him finding someone.
Speaker 3:
[08:51] Luke Bryan and his wife met at the Blue Room Bar in Statesboro.
Speaker 1:
[08:55] So now we're comparing you to Luke and Caroline?
Speaker 3:
[08:57] No, I'm just saying that's where they met. That's a good example. They met in college.
Speaker 2:
[09:01] So a lot of people do find their significant other in college.
Speaker 1:
[09:06] Where are you going to find yours? You're out of college. You're done.
Speaker 2:
[09:09] Yeah, well, no girl ever will get a chance.
Speaker 3:
[09:10] Not everybody finds theirs in college.
Speaker 2:
[09:12] Not everybody does, but it's a possibility.
Speaker 1:
[09:15] The possibility that you could have found yours in a strip club.
Speaker 2:
[09:18] No.
Speaker 1:
[09:19] With Star or Rain or Moon or Dream or whatever them stage names are.
Speaker 2:
[09:24] I didn't even go to the strip club trying to hook up with strippers. I would take girls to the strip club and teach them how to throw money on them.
Speaker 1:
[09:32] Why would a girl that would have done this act?
Speaker 2:
[09:35] I'm not dating them. I'm not dating any of those girls. And you're talking about when I was 21. That was almost a decade ago. Almost a decade ago. And one thing I ain't never done is get an ugly broad pregnant. Can you say that?
Speaker 1:
[09:51] We don't know that or not.
Speaker 2:
[09:52] Yeah, we do. They already came calling. I would have gotten invoiced.
Speaker 1:
[10:00] So again, let's go back to the topic that I was right or I was extra. So you're saying that I was extra when it came to who you dated.
Speaker 2:
[10:13] To certain people. Both. I think you were right about certain ones, but I think I was 50-50.
Speaker 1:
[10:22] Well, I think I have a much higher rating than that.
Speaker 3:
[10:25] I think you're right a lot of the time, but I think you're extra a lot of the time.
Speaker 2:
[10:28] But you're not always right.
Speaker 1:
[10:29] But you're not your mouth.
Speaker 3:
[10:31] Sometimes you're right and extra.
Speaker 1:
[10:34] No, we agree that my extra is generated because of how much I love y'all and that I don't want y'all going through the same some of the same shit I went through.
Speaker 2:
[10:43] I'm going to need you to love me less.
Speaker 1:
[10:45] I got you, boo.
Speaker 2:
[10:47] Just in that part.
Speaker 3:
[10:48] I'm so happy you said that.
Speaker 2:
[10:50] Just in that part.
Speaker 1:
[10:51] No, you don't get to select. Have me loving you less.
Speaker 2:
[10:53] Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1:
[10:57] So, let me ask you this since you're in college. What has been the one experience that you have had that you don't want, that you, that I don't know about, and that you were hoping that I wouldn't find out?
Speaker 2:
[11:15] Don't say that. Don't say that.
Speaker 1:
[11:22] He had sex with a dude.
Speaker 3:
[11:24] That has never happened.
Speaker 1:
[11:27] Chase.
Speaker 2:
[11:29] No. But if I could get a Powerball ticket.
Speaker 3:
[11:31] I don't think I'm going to answer that.
Speaker 2:
[11:33] If I could get a Powerball ticket.
Speaker 3:
[11:34] I'm going to sit here and incriminate myself.
Speaker 1:
[11:36] Well, folks, I can tell you, let's just talk about the elephant in the room. And neither have I. So do you, you don't want to tell me one thing that you've done that you're hiding?
Speaker 2:
[11:48] I don't think he's hiding.
Speaker 3:
[11:49] So that I'm hiding is just not really necessary for you.
Speaker 1:
[11:52] Gotcha. Chase, what is one thing in your life that you have done that I don't know about?
Speaker 2:
[11:58] No, my shit's out there.
Speaker 3:
[11:59] I told you something I did, but they couldn't tell myself. You know all my stuff, huh?
Speaker 2:
[12:03] You know all, pretty much.
Speaker 1:
[12:04] Do I know everything?
Speaker 2:
[12:05] Pretty much.
Speaker 1:
[12:07] Okay. All right, so let me ask you, what is the one thing in your life growing up that you feel I could have been a better dad with?
Speaker 2:
[12:20] This is a setup.
Speaker 1:
[12:21] It's not a setup. It's just a question.
Speaker 2:
[12:26] Um, like when I was young? Yeah. I think probably just listening more, instead of being so like on, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:
[12:37] Okay.
Speaker 2:
[12:38] But you were on because you were, I guess you were afraid of what could happen.
Speaker 1:
[12:42] Yeah, I didn't want anything bad to happen to you.
Speaker 3:
[12:46] I don't know the older I got and the more I understood a lot of stuff. But why you did certain things. Do you feel like, well, let me ask you, because I see other people, like other kids whose parents just like, go do whatever, throw their hands up and I don't care. And I'm like, if I ever did, well, let me ask you this.
Speaker 1:
[13:10] Do you think that Grayson, that I had brought him up differently than you?
Speaker 2:
[13:15] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[13:16] In what way?
Speaker 2:
[13:18] Well, I think that just comes with like growth. Like you change as a man, like the older you get. And I think you probably like you realize some, some of the stuff didn't work with us. So you just change that with him.
Speaker 1:
[13:30] Right. And.
Speaker 2:
[13:31] Definitely more patient, calmer.
Speaker 1:
[13:33] Right. Well, I think that comes like you said, age comes with age and with experience.
Speaker 2:
[13:38] Yeah, for sure. Because I mean, you know, there were like your perspective on what's really important changes.
Speaker 1:
[13:47] I can. Yes, I will agree with that because I can say that after 28 months at camp, it taught me really about what matters the most and to not sweat the small stuff. So yeah, you're right. So what do you think? Because you'll say, oh my God, you let Chase do this. If it was Savannah. So tell me when you say that, what it is that makes you say that? Is that just the baby in you that?
Speaker 3:
[14:18] No, it's, I don't know.
Speaker 2:
[14:20] I don't know how you could say that about me because I've literally gotten caught for everything that I've done and I've gotten severely, severely punished for it.
Speaker 3:
[14:30] I didn't really get anything bad.
Speaker 1:
[14:32] But you really haven't done anything that I've caught you in just yet. But now that you refuse to answer that one question, it's caused me to really think I'm answering on camera.
Speaker 3:
[14:42] That's for sure. This ain't a deposition.
Speaker 1:
[14:46] Well, since you've decided to decline that one statement, that makes me think that I need to get my PI skills back up to par. If you were looking, what advice would you give your younger self today? Let's just say, what would you say to your 15-year-old, Chase, if you could talk to him today?
Speaker 2:
[15:08] I would probably, I mean, I would definitely tell myself to just slow down, live in the moment. Definitely just don't go down the rabbit hole with partying. But I mean, I have had some, like, I do have some crazy memories and experiences, but I mean, at the end of the day, none of that was worth it. What it ended up costing me wasn't worth it. Um, save money.
Speaker 1:
[15:39] What would you tell your, what would you tell your ten-year-old self?
Speaker 2:
[15:45] Buy Bitcoin. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[15:51] I don't really know.
Speaker 2:
[15:53] I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[15:53] Do you think the reason that you don't know is because your life experiences are different than his life experiences? Do you think that has something to do with it?
Speaker 2:
[16:03] I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[16:04] You have the best hair, not to change the subject, but you have the best hair. Thank you.
Speaker 3:
[16:09] Buckle up. Like, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1:
[16:12] Because life is a show. Sometimes a shit show, as we well know.
Speaker 3:
[16:16] No idea what was coming.
Speaker 1:
[16:19] So, let me ask you, what would you say if you could, and I'm giving you the opportunity, what advice would you give me at, let's just say that I was, you were 15 years old. If you could have stepped out of yourself and talked to me to where you said you had to listen more, what would you have said?
Speaker 2:
[16:46] I don't know, just have like a calmer approach, because I think that that is better received than...
Speaker 1:
[16:56] I learned that with Savannah, believe it or not, because yelling worked with y'all, or maybe it didn't.
Speaker 2:
[17:02] It didn't work with me, I just shut down.
Speaker 1:
[17:05] Well, that's Savannah.
Speaker 2:
[17:06] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[17:06] Savannah shuts down. You can see, I can literally see the light in her eyes. It's like she dead, it's like she closes the drapes. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[17:14] And I mean, I think that, I mean, you do love us an absurd amount, but at the same time, you can't, you got to let all of us like walk our own path, you know, like experience life, the ups and the downs, because that's how you figure out who you are.
Speaker 1:
[17:34] I agree with that to a certain degree. But as a parent, it is hard for you to see your child walking down a path that you know is going to generate heartache.
Speaker 2:
[17:45] Yeah. But I mean, like, for example, like the partying stuff, like y'all had told me for years to stop partying. Like I did, it doesn't matter like how involved you are, how much you try to insert yourself. Nobody's, people are only going to change whenever they feel that they need to change. Like whenever, like they have to want that. So you can want it for someone as much as you want to. But until they want to do that, it's like beating a dead horse.
Speaker 3:
[18:15] Right.
Speaker 1:
[18:16] What do you think? What would be the thing that you wish that I could, that I would have done a little bit differently with you thus far? Because I still have a lot of years to work with you.
Speaker 3:
[18:27] A little bit of like what he said, but I got myself in more trouble because I went back a little bit. Like you'd say some things and I'm like, well, that's just not true. And then I get myself in more trouble because I'd argue back.
Speaker 1:
[18:42] But I remember, I remember one time that you did something and I got on to you and then I didn't talk.
Speaker 3:
[18:52] Yeah, you didn't talk to me for a week.
Speaker 1:
[18:54] I wasn't awake.
Speaker 2:
[18:54] You didn't talk to me for two weeks.
Speaker 3:
[18:55] We lived in the same house.
Speaker 1:
[18:56] It wasn't awake. It was like two days that we just, it was a big house too. It was easy to not run in each other. But you came to me. It was probably, that was probably one of my most impactful, and let's talk about that, how each of y'all have impacted my life. That was probably one of the biggest, most impactful moments of my life. When you came to my bedroom door and you said, can I talk to you for a second? Do you remember this? And I said, always. And you said, dad, we have lost two days of not speaking to each other. And that's time that we never get back. When if you would just sit down and talk to me.
Speaker 3:
[19:43] I told him it was childish.
Speaker 1:
[19:45] You did. You said, it's so childish because if you would just sit down, we can talk this out.
Speaker 2:
[19:49] That's mama coming out on him.
Speaker 1:
[19:51] And it was, he broke me right there in the bed. I mean, he broke me and I jumped up and I grabbed him and hugged him. I said, I love you more than anything in the world. You're 100% right and I will never do that again. Is that not how that went down? I think, so that was probably one of the most impactful moments of my life. Certainly the most with you. I think-
Speaker 2:
[20:16] And he and I, we'll come at each other, we'll be in the car and look at that, look out the window.
Speaker 1:
[20:24] I think with you, one of the more impactful moments obviously was when I came home and saw the condition that you were in and sitting on the plane and seeing the tears and I realized my child is broken. My child is truly broken. And there was that part of me that said, well, I sat on the plane and I said, God, please let my next response be the right response. And that's when I said, I love you more than anything in the world, but we're not going to do this anymore. Regardless of how much I love you, I'm not babying you. You have to get help.
Speaker 2:
[21:10] But I wasn't even like that. I mean, I wanted to go.
Speaker 1:
[21:13] I understand. But I mean, any other time I would have tried to fix it.
Speaker 2:
[21:19] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[21:20] I knew I could not fix you. That had to come from within and it had to be something that happened between you and God. So that was a very impactful moment for me. I think with Savannah, a dad raising a daughter is different. And if y'all have a daughter, you're going to come back to me and say, Oh my God, I now know what you were talking about. Savannah has had a lot of impactful moments for me. Because Savannah is, Savannah is, she wants to talk and she wants to figure it out. But I think that probably, I was watching Think Clips the other day, and of her going to the appellate court thing in Georgia. And I saw when she was walking down that sidewalk, I saw fear in her.
Speaker 2:
[22:15] Really?
Speaker 1:
[22:15] But to the world, she looked like the epitome of strength. And I think what I've learned from, one of the great things I've learned from Savannah, and that she's got, that she has gotten so much better at here in the last year, maybe, is that she's learning to be more vulnerable.
Speaker 2:
[22:34] Yeah, I can definitely see that.
Speaker 1:
[22:35] She's learning to be more vulnerable. And I told her, we had a conversation, and I said, you need to remember this. I said, you have your own road that you've got to walk, but you have to be able to let your guard down. I said, what good does your heart do if you keep it in a box and no one can ever get to it? I said, yes, you've protected yourself from heartbreak, but you never got to experience the love before it broke.
Speaker 2:
[23:08] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[23:10] And I told her, I says, when you have children, that's going to soften you.
Speaker 2:
[23:14] Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[23:16] But I already see that, but I think that she's, I've had so many impactful moments with her that it's hard to kind of pinpoint one, just one specific one. But I look every day and your mom and I talk all the time. And I cannot, you know, some people, some parents will say, Oh God, I should have never had any more children. I shouldn't have done this. I shouldn't have done that. I don't have that. I literally don't have that. Like I look at y'all and I'm like, when you walk in that door, I am the happiest person in the world. When you decide to clean up your room, I'm the happiest person in the world. You know, when Savannah comes in and she's, you know, not like a tornado, and it's just like, you know, she's coming over to the house to cook, or we're going to have a meal or whatever. I love seeing that. I love when Chloe comes in there and gives me a hug, and she'll say, oh, stop with the drama. Stop with the drama before you start. I love that when she calls that stuff out, because I sent her a message, and I said this morning, I said, really? And she came back, what now? And I said, my room. And she came to the door, and she put her hand around, she goes, I know I haven't done anything. What is it now? Drama, drama. And I said, I didn't get a hug from you last night. Oh, come here, darling. And she came up and gave me a hug.
Speaker 2:
[24:57] Chloe's got a lot of attitude.
Speaker 1:
[24:59] She does, and she's got a good personality when she wants to use it. But Chloe is so different than the rest of us, because she can ice your ass out. I thought I was good at icing. Chloe can literally ice you out to get your name and how you're genetically tied. I don't think so. No, she can. She can.
Speaker 3:
[25:19] She can with certain people.
Speaker 1:
[25:20] She can.
Speaker 2:
[25:21] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[25:21] Because I asked her the other day, I said, what about so-and-so? She said, who? I said, that friend that you had, one that I told you was going to stab you in the back. She said, I don't know who you're talking about. I said, Chloe, the one that used to always damn do shit behind your back. She says, Daddy, if I say I don't know who you're talking about, they had been removed from my mind. I was like, Oh my God. So I just think that every relationship that I have with my children is different. And I don't love any of y'all more than I love the others. It's a different love. And I'm grateful to God that he has taught me in my heart to show me how your heart expands for each relationship, for each child, even in a friendship. You think, God, I have too many friends already. But then all of a sudden you meet someone and they bring something to the table that kind of makes everything else even better. And you don't even question, like Terrence. Yeah. I mean, all of y'all love Terrence. We would have never met him had I not gone to summer camp. We would have never met him. And I mean, how wonderful of an addition to our family is he.
Speaker 2:
[26:36] Yeah. You met some solid people. You met more solid people there than you had on the outside.
Speaker 1:
[26:45] You were talking about that, what was it, two weeks ago, when we were on the phone with Dustin. And you came in and you said, you really did meet some solid guys.
Speaker 2:
[26:54] Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:
[26:56] And I really did.
Speaker 3:
[26:57] You had more friends in there than you did ever.
Speaker 2:
[27:01] That was my choice, though.
Speaker 1:
[27:02] I was able to stay away from people out here. I stayed at home and I didn't have anybody in our home. There, I was forced to become. You know, so I had to become more social and to communicate with people. And I think that that was healthy for me, too, because, you know, y'all are, y'all have relationships with these same guys now. And, you know, like Aaron, Terrence, Dustin, Christian, Schuyler, you know, all the guys that I was there with, you know, they're still in our life. Yeah. And so that part of it's a blessing. I was laughing at your mom the other night. She said, she was talking about this, you know, one woman that was there, Ashland, or Lexington. And she said, and you know, and she told me what she was in for, and I went, what kind of people was you associating with?
Speaker 3:
[28:00] My mom told me there was a woman in there that was in there for selling hot dogs at a cockfight.
Speaker 1:
[28:06] I know, bless her heart. Ain't that awful.
Speaker 2:
[28:08] For charity. Yes.
Speaker 3:
[28:09] A cockfight for charity.
Speaker 1:
[28:11] Right. And she's just selling hot dogs and they sent her to prison. Is that not horrible?
Speaker 2:
[28:15] Yeah, that is terrible.
Speaker 3:
[28:16] You can't even sell a glizzy without going to jail.
Speaker 2:
[28:18] I didn't even know that cockfighting was illegal.
Speaker 1:
[28:20] Chase, isn't that the chickens?
Speaker 2:
[28:22] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[28:23] Yeah, that's illegal.
Speaker 3:
[28:24] They attach razor blades to it.
Speaker 2:
[28:25] It was frowned upon.
Speaker 3:
[28:27] What?
Speaker 2:
[28:28] I just thought it was frowned upon.
Speaker 1:
[28:30] Well, either way, when you can't go to a good cockfight and get a hot dog, there's a problem. There's a problem with that. It's just that there's this problem. But your mother dealt with a whole different group of people.
Speaker 2:
[28:43] I mean, dad, you had some people.
Speaker 1:
[28:47] I've got people of all walks of life.
Speaker 2:
[28:49] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[28:51] If you need it, if you're having a problem with someone, I got somebody for you. If you need accounting information, I got somebody for you. If you need a good attorney that knows how corrupt the system is, I got somebody for you. If you need a good doctor who can get you a back brace without qualifying for it, I got somebody for you. I mean, I've got somebody in just about every walk. Yeah. But all of mine have all been lovely, lovely people and I'm grateful to have that experience. But that was a traumatic time for our family. And I was talking to someone the other night and he was talking about how horrible this whole situation has been for him. And I said, but you choose to lay down and wallow in it. I said, you need to get up and go out and thank God for every day that you have. Instead of sitting here whining that, you know, your prosecutor lied and this happened and this happened. Enough with that. It's over. You're done. You're free of that. Move on. Because I'm not giving you any more of my time on it. I'm not giving you more of my days away for stupid shit. Yeah. So, so tell me, let's just say, what do you want? What is your goal going? Because I mean, I give you advice every day, whether you take it or not, it's up to you.
Speaker 2:
[30:13] Not in two weeks.
Speaker 1:
[30:13] Same with you.
Speaker 2:
[30:14] Not in like two weeks.
Speaker 1:
[30:16] Why have I not given you advice in two weeks?
Speaker 2:
[30:17] I don't know. You just haven't been talking to me.
Speaker 1:
[30:19] That is not true. You say that shit.
Speaker 2:
[30:21] Bitch, I have the receipts.
Speaker 1:
[30:23] Oh my God. Do I talk, I don't talk to you every day, but I normally do talk to you.
Speaker 2:
[30:29] Oh yeah, you do.
Speaker 1:
[30:30] Yeah, I talk to you just about every day.
Speaker 2:
[30:31] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[30:32] You're in the house with me. What do you want to talk about?
Speaker 2:
[30:35] Well, I haven't been whenever I was traveling and then-
Speaker 1:
[30:39] You were gone.
Speaker 2:
[30:39] On the way back. Yeah, but we were talking every day, bitch. Don't even come at me like that.
Speaker 1:
[30:44] Then you should text me or call me.
Speaker 2:
[30:46] I have and I don't get a response.
Speaker 1:
[30:49] That's not true.
Speaker 2:
[30:51] Yeah, it is. It is true. Don't sit here and look at me crazy.
Speaker 1:
[30:54] If that is true, then I am sorry because it was not intentional.
Speaker 2:
[30:57] It's been intentional, bitch. Yeah, it is. Passive aggressive. He does love everybody, but he's one of the pettiest people I've ever met in my life and will hold a grudge. And let's talk about it.
Speaker 1:
[31:08] Let's break it down. What am I petty about everything? I, folks, I'm not petty. I do not believe in getting even, bitch.
Speaker 2:
[31:18] No, you get even. You get more than even.
Speaker 1:
[31:21] I don't believe in talking poorly about people.
Speaker 2:
[31:25] Do you? That's what you podcast does.
Speaker 3:
[31:27] All of our calls are talking poorly about other people.
Speaker 2:
[31:31] Your podcast is about you dragging people on the BOP, talking about how ugly somebody is. You are petty.
Speaker 1:
[31:38] Do I do that?
Speaker 3:
[31:38] Calling somebody fat or?
Speaker 1:
[31:40] I do not.
Speaker 2:
[31:42] Yeah, you do. Can we get it?
Speaker 3:
[31:44] Don't you have a history of calling, didn't you call like Nancy Grace or somebody a fat cow or something?
Speaker 2:
[31:49] Well, she is.
Speaker 1:
[31:50] And he is.
Speaker 3:
[31:53] She was and is.
Speaker 1:
[31:56] Well, folks, if I'm doing that, then that is a character flaw.
Speaker 2:
[32:00] You need to work on being more self-aware for sure.
Speaker 3:
[32:04] I think you're good.
Speaker 1:
[32:05] You do think I'm good?
Speaker 2:
[32:06] Grayson, we have an opportunity for change. Shut up.
Speaker 3:
[32:08] I don't want him to change his pony.
Speaker 1:
[32:10] Tell me what it is that you...
Speaker 3:
[32:12] Am I trying to turn this into a Disney show?
Speaker 2:
[32:14] I'm trying to turn my life into a damn Disney show.
Speaker 1:
[32:18] What is it that you think that I'm passive aggressive about?
Speaker 3:
[32:21] Dad.
Speaker 1:
[32:22] No, help me out here.
Speaker 2:
[32:23] Breathing.
Speaker 1:
[32:24] That is not true.
Speaker 2:
[32:25] Yes, you are.
Speaker 1:
[32:26] It's not true?
Speaker 2:
[32:27] Yes, you are.
Speaker 1:
[32:28] It's not true. What do you think I'm passive aggressive about?
Speaker 2:
[32:32] In a professional fisherman, you will fish for information like you were paid to do it.
Speaker 3:
[32:39] Okay, then let's...
Speaker 1:
[32:41] Folks, I'm trying to get them to break it down and stop being a little hoes on here.
Speaker 2:
[32:44] We're not being hoes. I'm telling you straight up, you will fish for information. You'll make shit up to think that you can shut up. That's not true.
Speaker 3:
[32:52] He will make stuff up to get you to telling yourself.
Speaker 2:
[32:55] Or to divulge information. Yes, you will. I've known the place has been the cycle for 30 years.
Speaker 1:
[33:01] This is how slender they are. If I come to you and tell you something and you think I'm fishing, I've already caught the barracuda.
Speaker 2:
[33:12] No, you haven't.
Speaker 1:
[33:13] I have.
Speaker 2:
[33:14] You haven't.
Speaker 1:
[33:14] At honest, I have. So, I've caught the barracuda. If I come and tell you something, it's because someone has already told me something and I don't want to out that person to you. So folks, I get the rap for fishing when I'm really a master cover-upper.
Speaker 3:
[33:44] I can tell by the way you're looking. It's that snitchin ass bitch right there.
Speaker 2:
[33:47] Bitch, I got snitched on my phone.
Speaker 3:
[33:49] He was looking at you the whole time. He said, somebody told me.
Speaker 1:
[33:53] No, no.
Speaker 2:
[33:53] I've never told on you.
Speaker 3:
[33:55] He's trying to set you up. Grayson, look at me.
Speaker 2:
[33:57] Grayson, look at me. Look at me, right hand to God.
Speaker 1:
[34:00] I just dropped a bomb on him with one word, which is why he jumped on that phone. I switched over to you after I had dropped my bait here and threw my line over here.
Speaker 2:
[34:12] So at the end of the day, this is the case.
Speaker 1:
[34:20] So, folks, if I am a fisherman, I am a master fisherman because I am constantly putting it mounting and putting on the wall. So, well, folks, on that note, we will revisit my pettiness. And what was the other thing y'all said? Fishing. Huh? We are going to do a segment every week on Todd's fishing expeditions. We will show how I fished and how I caught. That's what we'll do.
Speaker 2:
[34:57] No, I'm getting out of the boat and out of the water.
Speaker 1:
[35:01] Well, folks, on that note, until next week, Two Sons and Me, Chase and Grayson, I love you both with all my hearts, even though you're both full of shit and you're lying to me right now.
Speaker 2:
[35:13] I'm not lying.
Speaker 1:
[35:14] See you next week.