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Speaker 1:
[00:24] Welcome back, everyone. Thank you for returning to the show. I'm Lynxmama.

Speaker 2:
[00:29] And I am AZ Fudd, and this is The Read. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1:
[00:34] Oh, my God, it is indeed. And amen to all things and above. Let's get things started today with Black excellence, as we always do. I'm going to give it over to Victor Glover, the first Black NASA pilot who just returned from the moon, literally. If you haven't heard about Artemis II, big old space shit that they just shot up off of Earth. And for brief, I don't know, 10 days or something like that, this got to live the dream, not going to the moon, but getting far, far away from here. Far away, far away from here, and anything to do with it. In the stars, praise God. Especially for bringing him back. Now, that part, you know, he's got a family and a life here, so lovely for him. In theory, for me, why? You know, why come back?

Speaker 2:
[01:29] Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:
[01:31] You know, when rappers make a whole bunch of money and they move out the hood, and then the hood is like, oh, you never return, you never come back to the block, for what? They did all this work and all this schooling to never have to do that. I'm losing the plot. Victor Glover returned to Earth. First of all, I watched the launch, but I didn't see the landing, and I forgot that they were gonna get back so fast.

Speaker 2:
[01:53] I mean, okay.

Speaker 1:
[01:57] I didn't. I mean, I knew that they were just kind of doing like a wee and coming right back, but I looked up one day and that were in the ocean, and I was like, okay, I guess it's done. He gave a really, really lovely speech over at the NASA, and it was quite endearing. You know, he's saying that he hadn't even really processed what they had just done, which, I mean, riding in the space, I think that might take you a...

Speaker 2:
[02:27] A little bit, yeah. A little while.

Speaker 1:
[02:29] To kind of be like, yeah, I did that. I did that, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[02:32] And now I'm back here.

Speaker 1:
[02:35] So go check that out. I love this speech. She also posted on the Twitter home again, Mission complete. I hope we glorified God, humanity, our families and our terrific teams at NASA and CSA. Time to share the good news. And here he is with the family. All gorgeous black women, natural hair. We love to see it.

Speaker 2:
[02:56] It was really sweet. Well, I mean, I was locked in to that whole mission. Like, I... Not, you know, I'm not a space hoe. I don't really fuck with space and all that. Like, it's cool or whatever, but I'm just... I've never been super interested, yeah. But this was the footage they captured, and all of that was just really incredible. And then, yeah, once they landed safely, they asses was in that water, and they got them out and everything. I was like, damn, I had an exhale in me that I didn't even realize I was nervous about whether they was going to make it back safely. But yes, it was nice. The funniest part was when they had to talk to Trump, and they was all just kind of sitting there like, girl, it's over yet.

Speaker 1:
[03:40] You know, I forget sometimes that there are so many ceremonies and ceremonial processes that come with the president being there. And it's like, again, to the point that I was just making, you do all this great work, you leave this shithole, you go do something monumental, inexplicable, just outside of it, like literal rocket science. And then you come back to the ghetto, and then you have to talk to, like, the worst part of it, the worst person on the planet.

Speaker 2:
[04:15] Yeah. They actually talked to him when they were still in space, which is like, yuck. I'm trying to, like, do my job and have a good time and all this, and here you go.

Speaker 1:
[04:24] I remind me.

Speaker 2:
[04:24] Right, right.

Speaker 1:
[04:26] I don't need to remind me.

Speaker 2:
[04:27] But yeah, that was very sweet, everything that he posted and all that. And I was just, you know, glad they made it back. This is what I want my tax dollars to go towards, you know, science and shit like that, not going to war with Iran for no goddamn reason. But anyway, yeah, you know, little things.

Speaker 1:
[04:46] Now it's time for a pop culture and lifestyle segment. It's called Hot Tops, You, Me and Toppy and Me. Have you gone to see You, Me and Tuscany yet?

Speaker 2:
[04:59] I have not. Have you?

Speaker 1:
[05:02] I think I'm going to go. I haven't seen it yet, but I think I'm going to go. It looks cute. I love the Baileys. I don't. I know that this is the brother from Bridgeton.

Speaker 2:
[05:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[05:14] Because I remember when everybody was talking about the brother from Bridgeton.

Speaker 2:
[05:17] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[05:18] I don't watch Bridgeton. Oh, that's too bad. But I do know who this is.

Speaker 2:
[05:22] It's great. It's great. No.

Speaker 1:
[05:24] It's so good.

Speaker 2:
[05:25] No, Bridgeton is so good.

Speaker 1:
[05:26] No, it's okay. I love that for you. But I might go watch this. Oh, that's so good. Okay.

Speaker 2:
[05:35] All right.

Speaker 1:
[05:38] Well, Pooh Shiesty's lawyer Bradford Cohen says that the rapper remains in good spirits despite the judge denying his bail because you're not going anywhere, babes. You won't be going a fuck place. Yep. Yep. Yep. He's definitely looking at lifetime imprisonment if convicted. And babe, I mean, I believe all the nails are in that coffin, honey. I think those were fastened in the moment that you posted selfies with that, Jorio.

Speaker 2:
[06:16] That'll do it.

Speaker 1:
[06:18] So, I mean, get the Dorito pie ready, babe. And he also says that his daddy is on house arrest and will remain on house arrest after his $250,000 bond. He is permitted to go absolutely the fuck nowhere except for two informed court dates. I don't even know if that could go in the yard. And he's looking at some hard time, too, for being present in the state.

Speaker 2:
[06:43] Right, right. You can't...

Speaker 1:
[06:44] Oversee it.

Speaker 2:
[06:45] You can't really be complicit in a federal crime. You can't really do that. They kind of run up on that.

Speaker 1:
[06:51] When you hopped on the Greyhound, did they tell you they were taking you to Cold Stone? Like, did you just... Like, oh, we're driving all the way to East Atlanta, or, well, not East, you know. Right.

Speaker 2:
[07:03] I saw that the lawyer went on some podcast or something and was like, the prosecution said he printed off the contracted staples and he was actually printing off song lyrics. And I'm like, is this the number one thing that needs to be addressed? Like, is this what you think the number one issue is like this story, the fact that like maybe they printed off song lyrics versus the-

Speaker 1:
[07:26] TikTok needs all the details. How else can we have our really petty, unnecessary video essay?

Speaker 2:
[07:33] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[07:33] God damn, I'm so tired of everybody having a fucking-

Speaker 2:
[07:35] Well, like, sir, this is not, okay. The crime was not printing the contract or the lyrics or whatever. The crime is every fucking thing else that was done. Like, let's focus on what really matters here.

Speaker 1:
[07:49] I want to know all of it, because it's all fucking ridiculous and it should have, and it's so far from something that ever should have happened.

Speaker 2:
[07:57] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[07:57] I want to know every square inch of it so I can have a good laugh. Like, I deserve to have, like, all the information so that I can have the appropriate look. So stopping at a Staples is just so delicious.

Speaker 2:
[08:12] Because it's just so, I mean, it is extremely stupid. And it's one stupid thing on a giant pile of other very stupid things. Right. But this is one where when they tell that man he's not getting out of prison for another 15, 20 years minimum, I'm going to be like, yeah, I, you know, I won't be marching for this one. I'll have no choice but to sit back. I'll have no choice but to sit back and be like, yeah, them white people did what they had to do. You're a goddamn menace, my nigga. You don't know how to act.

Speaker 1:
[08:46] I didn't even get a mixtape, my. I don't want to have me waiting for new push.

Speaker 2:
[08:49] Yikes, yikes.

Speaker 1:
[08:51] And you went, you got on the Greyhound. You went to the Staples. Why didn't you also go to Starbucks and get some coffee and then ask them to put criminal as the name on the cup?

Speaker 2:
[09:03] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[09:03] What other evidence did you need?

Speaker 2:
[09:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[09:06] Anyhow, Gucci Mane has released a response song. It is titled Crash Dummy. He addresses the record. I mean, the robbery, the armed robbery and attempt to disengage from his 1017 contract.

Speaker 2:
[09:27] Lord.

Speaker 1:
[09:29] I believe one of the initial lyrics to the song is Gucci saying, you went out like a real crash dummy. And after all that, boy, you still signed to me. And I feel like that is kind of the summary of what we were talking about when we originally spoke about this. So now you're going to be locked up for the rest of your life and you will have, you will remain in the contract because you had further obligations to it. And even if you didn't, girl, why would I? Right. So now I will make all the money from all of your music.

Speaker 2:
[10:05] Yeah, I sure will. I sure will.

Speaker 1:
[10:07] Good luck at the gates.

Speaker 2:
[10:11] Yeah, that is literally, I mean, if you haven't heard it, that is pretty much what Gucci said straight like that. Like I thought we was sitting down and talking business. You niggas came in, dabbing me up. Like everything was cool. Like shit was sweet. And then you switched up and did all this weird fuck nigga shit. But you know, you a big dumbass. And I knew that before. I just didn't know you was this level of stupid, but all your shit does belong to me. So thank you so much for that. I do appreciate it.

Speaker 1:
[10:41] He talked about putting money on a nigga's commissary. He said, paying to paper, but I was under duress. He said, I'm like Burtman, nigga, this my cash money. It was a very interesting song. I see some fans are a little bit split. There's some criticism that, you know, oh, he snitching. And I have questions for some of you niggas who feel that way. There's a couple of things.

Speaker 2:
[11:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[11:07] How do we get here when it talks to snitching? Like we evolved, I know we evolved from like the original definition of snitch to then snitch just being telling, right? Cause snitch in its origin, as far as I've always known, as a 38 year old baby. So when you do crime with someone and then you tell on the person to get out of the crime.

Speaker 2:
[11:32] Right, exactly.

Speaker 1:
[11:35] So if somebody came on your block and shot your neighbor and you told somebody what you saw, that wasn't originally snitching. Now it is.

Speaker 2:
[11:46] According to you niggas. Or if the-

Speaker 1:
[11:48] According to you.

Speaker 2:
[11:49] They even call the victims snitches, which is like, please be for real. I'm not supposed to tell on you when you came and shut up my house.

Speaker 1:
[11:58] So that's where I'm evolving to, right? Now we're at a place where this is, I guess, snitching?

Speaker 2:
[12:05] No.

Speaker 1:
[12:06] I was held in gunpoint and demanded to sign a contract, a business contract. And me talking about that is snitching? Couple of things. I would argue that Poosh Icedy snitched on himself first. Then I would argue, this being a business contract that I was involved in under duress, I clearly am going to make a report to protect my business, to report on attempts made on my business. I have to talk about it any fucking way. On top of that, I'm a rap nigga. What are we talking about? I don't understand how this is snitching to some of y'all. This is a man who has gone from old Gucci to a Gucci man that y'all still claim to be a clone because he's just transformed his life and body.

Speaker 2:
[13:15] As if he wasn't in prison. Like, you should learn something from time behind bars. I know you little niggas are allergic to that, but you really should spend some time.

Speaker 1:
[13:23] I might even burn some calories.

Speaker 2:
[13:24] You should spend some time locked up and then think about how you want to live differently and move differently through the world once you get out. I would rather be a Gucci than a Poosh Ice-T. 10 times out of 10.

Speaker 1:
[13:35] And I feel like a lot of y'all, especially after this song, probably admire Poosh Ice-T in a psych. So, at least in the decision making, right? Between the crime and the, quote unquote, snitching.

Speaker 2:
[13:52] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[13:53] And I just, I will sincerely pray for y'all tonight, because...

Speaker 2:
[14:01] It's something wrong. What? It's a love one.

Speaker 1:
[14:03] You didn't even get, you got like a song and a half from this before he went right back. I feel like if Blockbuster Video was still a thing, you would, you'd still have time before you needed to return it compared to how long this was out of jail. Prison.

Speaker 2:
[14:20] Yeah. People wait longer for their library books to come off a hold than this nigga was out. Like, this is just, the seasons didn't even change all the way, brother. He was barely out.

Speaker 1:
[14:31] Like, but, you know, It doesn't take longer to get ready for Thanksgiving dinner to like, to make all the-

Speaker 2:
[14:37] For real. I bet Jade is prepping her menu right fucking now. And this, you know, it just don't. But don't, the people who look up to Poosh Iced Tea don't aspire to shit. They have zero expectations for their lives and they probably don't think they'll see 30.

Speaker 1:
[14:52] Even he did.

Speaker 2:
[14:53] I mean-

Speaker 1:
[14:54] Till he didn't.

Speaker 2:
[14:58] It was just- So yeah, here we go. The, yeah, the judge is going to keep your ass behind bars. And there is no such thing as snitching when you, the perpetrator, pose for photographs in the jewelry that you and them other niggas stole. And then upload these photographs to Instagram. Like you have legit gotten dumber. The, the hood niggas from back in my day, in the 1900s and the early 2000s, them niggas would have never, ever, and I do mean ever posted pictures online of themselves in the shit that they stole.

Speaker 1:
[15:41] Well, they wouldn't have done half.

Speaker 2:
[15:42] Y'all are allergic to doing, I mean, it's obviously not the right thing, but like just the even halfway smart thing. This was, okay. All right.

Speaker 1:
[15:55] Now, I did see quite a few niggas say like, you really did go out like a dummy, my. You could have just fulfilled them obligations and just wrapped this up. I did see a number of niggas say that to you before. You know what I mean? I'll just lay that out in things as well. But yeah, man, the rest of your living black days, and you, it really is wild. I mean, his contract probably sucked, or was, at least for him, sucked, right? But so many musicians have, unfortunately, and I mean, the music industry was a racket in its inception. So duh.

Speaker 2:
[16:37] Yeah, everybody says it.

Speaker 1:
[16:39] But there are clearly, because so many people have this issue or have this experience, there are clearly ways to deal with it outside of taking your black ass back to the pokey. You could, and especially because people have been waiting for a ton of music. We said this already. You could have just released five back to back projects and ran for the hills like Rihanna ran for our baby.

Speaker 2:
[17:06] Like Rihanna, right. Or, you know, you hit Gucci up about it. Gucci said, come to the studio, let's talk about it. So it sounds like he was willing to at least have the conversation. Like, maybe we can work. You went there with the intent to do dumb.

Speaker 1:
[17:27] Right.

Speaker 2:
[17:28] That man was open to the conversation. Why didn't you call them other and be like, all right, chill. I'm going to hop on the Zoom because I can't leave because I'm, you know, house arrest, a county arrest or whatever. So I'm going to hop on this Zoom with Gucci. Let me at least see if we can work something. You went straight to dumb. Why?

Speaker 1:
[17:47] Well, the fun for me when I think about this is just going to be like mental fan fiction of him going back to the love of his life.

Speaker 2:
[17:57] Whoever it is in there, somebody.

Speaker 1:
[18:01] Somebody in there is just like, you said you would never leave.

Speaker 2:
[18:10] And baby, I intend to keep that for him.

Speaker 1:
[18:11] Twist some dreads for him.

Speaker 2:
[18:14] Okay. Now I have a mental energy of poo, shitey, sitting crisscross applesauce.

Speaker 1:
[18:19] You're welcome.

Speaker 2:
[18:21] Yeah. Between some grown leg while he flip his wig and talk on the phone.

Speaker 1:
[18:26] He told him how to do it too. I'm going to teach you how to rob. He was just like, listen.

Speaker 2:
[18:32] Because you got to protect yourself. Boy, I can't have you out here. Looking crazy when I leave. We're going to watch out for you. A real love story.

Speaker 1:
[18:42] Speaking of diss records, Remy Ma, my girl, Remy Smith.

Speaker 2:
[18:47] I was hoping you heard it. Oh, whee.

Speaker 1:
[18:50] Hoping I heard it.

Speaker 2:
[18:52] I should have known.

Speaker 1:
[18:53] Hoping I heard it.

Speaker 2:
[18:54] That's like saying, I hope you saw Trina at the Little Miss Drama Tour.

Speaker 1:
[18:58] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[18:58] Right. I should have known. I should have known.

Speaker 1:
[19:01] I saw Remy at the Little Miss Drama Tour. Like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2:
[19:03] Should have known.

Speaker 1:
[19:04] I saw Stefan Diggs at the Little Miss Drama Tour.

Speaker 2:
[19:07] And Quavo.

Speaker 1:
[19:07] We'll get there. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[19:09] I said, damn, everybody but Offset. Well, Offset got... Patti LaBelle did. I did. What the?

Speaker 1:
[19:18] Girl, I'm glad I missed you this way. Listen, Reminisce Smith is tired of everybody. She's sick of everybody. Did I listen to this song? I'm probably half of the streaming numbers. I've been burning this record into absolute crust.

Speaker 2:
[19:32] Oh, it's good.

Speaker 1:
[19:33] It is amazing. Like, okay. I just... So listen, Harry Ma, who is still legally married to one Papoose, she's mostly been quiet, minding her business, living her original life. And Papoose, who is now famously with boxing legend, pretty much best bitch with hands outside. Clarissa Shields, they've been together for quite some time. If you did not know this, then you probably just haven't heard of Clarissa Shields because she won't shut up about it.

Speaker 2:
[20:21] Right.

Speaker 1:
[20:23] And amidst all of her swooning, they have both been throwing shade, subs, talking walk like shit about Remy. All sorts of allegations. Remy Ma, actually Remy Ma, I had a lover in prison. Oh, you know, just Clarissa said all kinds of shit about her. Oh, I don't want to wait till I'm this age to have kids. I want to have kids during my career and be able to run around in the park with them and stuff.

Speaker 2:
[20:57] Girl, maybe don't actually, maybe hold off on that. And I say that with all due respect, maybe, maybe wait. You got some shit to work through, sister.

Speaker 1:
[21:11] Number two is the fact that there is documented proof owned and operated by one Mona Scott Young, in which Papouf bullies this lady into having a baby.

Speaker 2:
[21:23] Oh, Lord. Damn.

Speaker 1:
[21:25] Bullies her.

Speaker 2:
[21:26] I remember that.

Speaker 1:
[21:27] I feel like he got her a pregnancy test as a present or some shit. Stop it.

Speaker 2:
[21:32] He begged that lady for that baby. Begged.

Speaker 1:
[21:34] Begged.

Speaker 2:
[21:35] Duh. Come on.

Speaker 1:
[21:42] Papouf also recently, I think last year, hopped on somebody's live stream or somebody's Zoom podcast and said that he was instrumental in writing this. He was writing a very large portion of Remy's music. I think he said he wrote like three songs of her first album, including Conceited.

Speaker 2:
[22:04] He said he wrote, oh yeah. Well, he said he wrote 90% of what came out of her mouth. Yeah. Papouf, please, we don't want to get disrespectful.

Speaker 1:
[22:20] I don't know if I want to start. Yeah, I'll just start there. Why would you say that? Why would you say that? Did you, was Clarissa in the room and you had to like keep up the lie that you told her? What, like, why would you say that? Why would you say that? Why would you say that? Girl, there are still clips on YouTube. I know that because I've had them in my favorites for decades. Like, there are still videos of this lady in battle raps, in ciphers, that she wins. Yeah. From before y'all got together. She was like a jit, basically.

Speaker 2:
[23:14] I mean, there's that. And there's also, if you were that great of a writer.

Speaker 1:
[23:18] I'm getting there.

Speaker 2:
[23:19] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[23:20] Cause it's in the lyrics. Like, why you always gotta gazelle your blank hands? Like, let me hit the plot. She has also rapped just as well alongside you. A huge part of the black power, or not black, the black love story couple goals shit within your storyline is that y'all are both these insane lyricists from Battle Rap. No one ever, I mean, I'm sure some people, like I think Nicki Minaj, when she got ethered, sheethered, was like, oh, Papu's right for you. Cause that's the easy layout thing. First of all, I challenged most of y'all at home to name a female rapper that has not been accused of having Ghost Rider, I will wait. It's never happened. Every single one of them, even Safaree, when he broke up with Nicki Minaj, it went on, I think Hot 97 or some place, it was like, oh, you know, I wrote this and that, or I was helping her write what? Girl, you had a couple ad-libs that that lady graciously gave you, so you probably have a writing credit or two. There is absolutely no way that you wrote lyrics for that lady that rapped better than you. I believe The Ghost Writing Room is our what really got, that's what really set reminisce off. And she said, okay, I think I'm working on an album anyway, let me just go ahead and get to it. She went on the radar, she dropped this YFL song, W-Y-F-L, I'm sorry, for what, why are you fucking lying? It's originally a song by Crash Dummy, funnily enough, and, did I say funnily? I just did. And DJ Mack, over there, it's What You Feel Like, which is funny enough, it's kind of the same thing, meaning, I'm really not even gonna, like you can peruse all of your favorite lyrics if you'd like to, within the record. Two of mine are, I only have two that I really would like to highlight. Claris says, how you talking at your neck when I know how you make a neck work? Insanity. In, I mean, and I saw some being like, technically, he's still your, because y'all not divorced yet. And the other line was, how the nerve of niggas saying that they wrote those hits when their whole career, they never ghost wrote shit. Not for me or anybody else. You always act like you help a go help yourself. And that's the exact same shit that y'all said to Safari, which is like, girl, if you help this lady write anything, then why does your music suck? Papoose, I can't think of a song of note that you've released since like the Touch It remix. And I know that I'm just out of touch, but I know that's also because nothing has really moved enough over there for it to have come across my timeline. If you goat roast, if you goat roast, if you ghost wrote all of these, like 90% of the shit that came out of this lady's mouth, including hit records of hers, like conceded and shit, then why don't you have a hit record? And why are you trying to get Clarissa Shields a rep? You're obsessed and you're sad. God bless.

Speaker 2:
[27:23] That's really it. Great song, Remy. Congrats, girl. You chewed them niggas up.

Speaker 1:
[27:30] I really believe that this is the beginning of some shit. Like I think that she just has a, I think it's probably like the first single or a buss single for some shit. But I listen to this song now every single day. Remy, thank you so much. Battle Rapper, step to the front, please. Like all of the people, if you, I just need this energy in my hip hop music. I need this energy in the rap music. Thank you so much for bringing this to the table. Five million views in 24 hours or some shit like that. It's still climbing. I don't know what Papu is supposed to do here. Because it feels like it would be ridiculous to not respond. But how are you going to respond to your wife that just ate you? Please don't send Clarissa to the booth. Please, please, please don't send Clarissa to the booth. Whatever you do, please, please don't. Because even if you write something for her, she'll still eat her. And then what? In fact, ask her to come out of the booth. Appreciate it. Love you so much. She out here trying to sing love songs to you. I'm so worried about that lady because he got separated from Remy, what, 2024? He just filed for divorce last year. I don't understand why y'all be thinking I'm gonna go keep these niggas. I don't. Cardi, I don't know why Stefan Diggs was at this show. I'm gonna just, I wanted to say this is trolling. He was there, his mom was there, brothers was there. They're out there jamming to bodega baddie and shit. I think this is in DC. Then there's footage of her leaving like I guess an after party after the show. He walks out, I guess first, gets in, it seems like he must get into this like white car. And then she walks out. Looks like she goes to say something. She goes up to like the driver's side of the car and she's saying something into the car. And then it looks like she might have got in the car after that. I don't know, but they're already making rumors that they've done got back together, which wouldn't gag me. It would maybe just disappoint.

Speaker 2:
[29:42] Yeah, it's very possible they never broke up. And everybody just assumed they did because she unfollowed him on Instagram or whatever. But yeah, bitches take a long time to stop fucking with their baby daddy. This is actually extremely on brand for her. So I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Speaker 1:
[29:58] Unfollowing people on Instagram is... I don't know why y'all act like it's an organ. Girl, listen.

Speaker 2:
[30:09] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[30:10] Can you just like end the tour at least first before we have to do this again? I mean, I hate it when LePel came outside with her pies. You had a little Kim coming out there and walked down the fucking runway. Like she, Beyoncé, just pumping blood out of the stage. Let's get through the program. I would love that so much. King Harris was just arrested on drug charges.

Speaker 2:
[30:38] Damn.

Speaker 1:
[30:39] While wearing a Pikachu onesie. Oh, this is fantastic. Now, I did say the other day when we talked about his absolutely excellent roast of 50 Cent on this diss record behind his mama. I did say that King would likely get into trouble quite like this, not long after and that it should not take away from the power that was this 20 year old, 21 year old dissing this 50 year old expertly and getting away with it. Well, here we are in Today of Things. Police put his black ass over because he was speeding. They said he had a weed vape in a car and a gun on a dash. So how did he get him to step out of the car? Because gun, he apparently didn't want to step out of the car first. Eventually he did, they put him in cuffs, put him back in the car. He looked and sounded odd to me, did not notice a Pikachu onesie at all. Wish I did, that would have been funny. Oh my god, he really is wearing a Pikachu onesie. Well, Nintendo will probably be filing a lawsuit after that too. They are incredibly litigious. They don't play about their little animal children. I think I'm going to name my next dog... I can't decide if I want to name the next dog Zelda or Kirby. Zelda makes sense because duh. I don't like Zelda that much. I don't like the game that much. I think I just want to name my dog's Nintendo characters. Anyhow, King, his daddy showed up after this, duh, question them about it. And I think that he was released not so long after that. And she like fucked the police or whatever on Instagram.

Speaker 2:
[32:36] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:38] Oh, he also apparently threatened to sleep with his arresting officer's wife. So he's doing a great job over there. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2:
[32:44] Boy, I can't root for these kids at all. God damn. You should have been arrested for driving a cyber truck. Honestly, those cars are so fucking hideous. Every time I see one, I'm just like jail immediately for you. But yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:58] I don't know why they drive them.

Speaker 2:
[33:01] It's really hideous.

Speaker 1:
[33:03] They're so fucking ugly.

Speaker 2:
[33:05] All of them.

Speaker 1:
[33:07] I saw somebody driving one the other day, and I hope that they didn't buy it like this, but it was like all over army fatigue color, like green. I was like, did you wrap a cyber truck?

Speaker 2:
[33:21] Yeah, they did. They absolutely did.

Speaker 1:
[33:24] I have to Google what it looks like inside because I've never cared.

Speaker 2:
[33:27] And in the worst possible print, yuck.

Speaker 1:
[33:31] It's ugly. It wasn't even like, you didn't even get a Barbie pink or what? Oh my God, that lady probably has a pink cyber truck. Always should have to have.

Speaker 2:
[33:41] Money, yeah, that's not really. She's starting a rap academy in 30 days. So, you know, I wouldn't guess that she has cash on hand for something like a cyber truck, but yeah. Yeah, yeah. They're already the worst cars and y'all just make them worse-er. So, damn, King, I wanted to rue for you after you chewed up 50 Cent like that.

Speaker 1:
[34:09] These just look like a car inside with the Tesla iPad. Wait. I mean, I guess, like, you know what? Okay, it just clicked for me. You're thinking of having these cars. You're like Batman.

Speaker 2:
[34:27] Yeah. I want to feel like a superhero. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[34:31] Okay. That's stupid. And I love superheroes. I don't need a Batmobile. I don't need a Batmobile. Because now that I see through the, like, windshield, it's like, oh, this looks like Iron Man's suit or whatever. But the outside of it looks like if you cut a Pepsi can in half and then, I don't know, make some, like, artisanal belt buckles or whatever with it.

Speaker 2:
[35:07] Right. I mean, at least the Batmobile is, like, well-designed. It's actually a cute car.

Speaker 1:
[35:11] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[35:12] This thing is really horrendous. It's like asking a child to peel a potato and they just end up cutting off giant chunks of it.

Speaker 1:
[35:18] That is such a good comparison.

Speaker 2:
[35:20] Hittiest.

Speaker 1:
[35:21] It genuinely looks like that, like Cassava.

Speaker 2:
[35:27] Oh, Lord. Bless it. Ugly. Extremely. Oh, this says there's a Batmobile wrap for the Cybertruck. See, somebody thought of it. Y'all are lame. This is why you only see men driving those.

Speaker 1:
[35:47] At least like the Tesla, the regular Tesla, when I see it, although you immediately know it's Tesla when you look at it. It looks like it's trying to look like a sports car, or at least a regular car.

Speaker 2:
[36:04] Why?

Speaker 1:
[36:07] This does scream Elon Musk, though. They're so fucking ugly. And I believe someone in this neighborhood has one because I see one a lot. And every time I see one, I'm like, at least the windows are really dark, so we can't see who to embarrass.

Speaker 2:
[36:23] Like, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:25] But when you park it somewhere, I would roast you. I would laugh out loud every single time you step out of that shit in our garage or whatever if I saw you. You would hate me. Also, is there anybody that owns a Cybertruck that didn't vote for Donald Trump?

Speaker 2:
[36:44] No. Or they didn't vote at all. It's one or the other. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:52] Offset has returned to performing on stage. He was seen at a big concert a few days ago. He was brought out to stage on a wheelchair or in a wheelchair, unstrapped and then sat. First of all, I didn't know until today that they shot him in the ass. I don't know why I thought he got shot like in the face or arm or some shit like that.

Speaker 2:
[37:18] Yikes.

Speaker 1:
[37:19] No, no. I guess that's why he was in the little seat. He got shot like a kid.

Speaker 2:
[37:27] I thought it was his leg, but his ass is even funnier.

Speaker 1:
[37:31] Yeah, it is. And we can laugh because he's fine. And terrible. So he went onto the stage and he is here dressed like Justin Bieber at Coachella with a ski mask on. Did you see Justin Bieber at Coachella walk out there, dressed like your little cousin that's depressed, but his whole family ride it off as spoiled, and he had on these galoshes and a wooden stool, and then he brought out a fucking laptop with a YouTube account and nostalgia. Girl, if I was a fan, I would have sued. I would have pressed charges. I would have, what do you mean? What do you mean that we paid $8,000 for these goddamn tickets? I would have threw my $35 drink at his ass, and I do not believe it, throwing things at stage. Are you kidding me, Justin? Are you kidding me, one of the richest pop stars in the world? Are you kidding me, Hailey Bieber's fucking husband? It's just like— A hoodie?

Speaker 2:
[38:26] YouTube, nigga? Like, you— YouTube! Just feels like Coachella should warrant a little bit more polish and— Airplay. I don't want to bring up that Creole woman, but Jesus Christ. Imagine Beyoncé had been like, hold on, y'all, let me Google my top hits right quick and put together a playlist or whatever. Like, y'all would still be dragging the fuck out of her. So I did see—I didn't see the rest of his performance because I genuinely didn't care not even to stay up and stream it for free. I legit did not care, so. But I saw the next day trending all over the place.

Speaker 1:
[39:03] The only reason I knew about it is because I was going out that night and I went over to, like, a pregame thing and them niggas were watching Coachella. And I walked in and it literally took me a couple seconds because I was like, who is that? I can't see. I had no idea who it was. And someone was like, oh, it's Justin Bieber. And then he sat on this stool and he opened a Macbook and he started playing baby, baby, baby on YouTube. And we could see the YouTube. It wasn't even like, just like an embedded video. It was youtube.com/justinbiebertv or whatever. And I remember saying out loud, I think most of us kind of touched and agreed. To the point that you just made. When it's a woman, even rappers, they go out there, they have bells and whistles on the stage. They have choreography, whether they can dance or they cannot. They have multiple dancers. They have pyrotechnics. They have a roller coaster. Like a woman could never just come out on stage with some sweat pants and a tank top and just walk back and forth or sit down.

Speaker 2:
[40:16] Literally, not any woman would have been able to get away with that.

Speaker 1:
[40:21] Even the ones who can't.

Speaker 2:
[40:23] Right.

Speaker 1:
[40:23] Like Summer Walker could fully go sit her ass down and just sing.

Speaker 2:
[40:27] Summer, we know you don't want to be here. And I actually, that was my thought. Do you want to be here? I'm not sure that you, Justin Bieber, actually want to be on this stage right now. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[40:40] But the girls were like, well, Offset owes pretty much all of North America money, so he better get out there and start blowing.

Speaker 2:
[40:48] I saw a video of Katy Perry watching Justin Bieber, and she was like, I'm just glad he has YouTube Premium, because I'm not trying to see no ads.

Speaker 1:
[40:55] I did see that.

Speaker 2:
[40:55] I was like, oh, good God, yikes.

Speaker 1:
[40:58] I heard the Beliebers were pissed, but it like, I mean, that would have been so fierce if there was like an ad for Giardia insert or like, if just all of a sudden in the middle of one of his top hits where he had that Ellen DeGeneres, that swoop bang, all of a sudden there was like an ad for prize picks.

Speaker 2:
[41:25] Cunt.

Speaker 1:
[41:26] But by accident. Right. Oh, that would have been so fierce. I remember having a technical difficulty.

Speaker 2:
[41:31] A mess. I'm pretty sure he's doing it again this weekend, so maybe the YouTube portion will be out, but yeah.

Speaker 1:
[41:38] I doubt it. I doubt it. To your point, it seems like the baby doll does not want to really be there, but maybe she also has money to make. It's hard on you for everybody.

Speaker 2:
[41:48] Maybe.

Speaker 1:
[41:49] Some of y'all would be surprised.

Speaker 2:
[41:51] Maybe.

Speaker 1:
[41:52] He's plenty rich, and if not, that baby mama's.

Speaker 2:
[41:57] Oh, yeah. Oh, right.

Speaker 1:
[41:59] There's coin in the home.

Speaker 2:
[41:59] I completely forgot that girl's maiden name, but she came from somebody rich.

Speaker 1:
[42:04] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:05] Balls win. Oh, right, right, right. She is right. So she's fine. It's rich people broke, not regular people broke.

Speaker 1:
[42:14] And I don't even know if it necessarily has to be, do you want to be here? Because again, I can think of probably off the top of my head, five niggas right now, singing included, who would have done the exact same thing, and it would have been fine.

Speaker 2:
[42:28] Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1:
[42:31] At least when I went out there and half saw Frank Ocean, he had on a bubble coat, but he had like a cool stage. A cool stage with niggas in lab coats walking around, whatever, I remember. There was stuff going on.

Speaker 2:
[42:44] Yeah, something for y'all to look at.

Speaker 1:
[42:46] This, yes. This nigga stopped at the same staples as Poosh Iced Tea and said, you'll have anything I can sit on.

Speaker 2:
[42:54] He signed a contract. He got to be out there.

Speaker 1:
[42:58] Offset apparently owes $100,000 to a casino in Detroit too. Why? Yeah, it's addiction.

Speaker 2:
[43:07] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:09] Speaking of Justin Bieber and being on stage, couldn't help but think of your theory that perhaps he wanted to box up Usher because of, you know, contracts.

Speaker 2:
[43:21] Money, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[43:24] Maybe that's why he was on stage in his galoshes. On the flip side of things, Usher is going on tour with Chris Brown. They have announced a joint tour. I think they're calling it R&B, Raymond and Brown. But the streets are calling it B&B, Bumps and Bruises. I also saw it being referred to as the Predator.

Speaker 2:
[43:49] Oh, boy.

Speaker 1:
[43:51] It's rough out here on the promo side. The marketing is crucial.

Speaker 2:
[43:58] Yeah, this is actually where Usher and I part ways. This is it for me.

Speaker 1:
[44:05] And it has been pennies.

Speaker 2:
[44:06] It has.

Speaker 1:
[44:07] It has been.

Speaker 2:
[44:08] It really has. Yikes! It's been a long time coming. The Diddy shit, the Russell Simmons shit, the...

Speaker 1:
[44:17] The Russell Simmons shit was wild.

Speaker 2:
[44:19] That sexual, I don't even think it was sexual assault, unless that's what giving somebody herpes is considered. Remember that girl's suit or something? And y'all were like, she's fat. Ain't no way Usher fucked her. And it was like, ugh.

Speaker 1:
[44:32] Oh my God, that was so awful.

Speaker 2:
[44:34] That was just very ignorant of y'all. You don't, you think because that man is, anyway. So it's been, like, slowly building up to this point with Usher Raymond. And Diddy was bad enough, but I tried to give some grace, you know, like this man groomed him from a young age and victim mindset and all this. But going on tour would beat him down brown is really inexcusable. Like, there's just no way I cannot reframe that in my mind to make it make sense. And so, yeah, this is it for me. I'm glad I saw him before he ruined his reputation in my mind because he does put on a great show. But it's zero percent chance I'm giving Chris Brown even one thin dime of my money. So, yeah, Usher just don't care about aligning himself with fuck niggas. And that leads me to believe that he's also a fuck nigga. But regardless, you know, you don't need my money. So you won't be getting it. I just will not support this.

Speaker 1:
[45:38] It looks like it's a misdemeanor classified as intentionally transmitting an infatuation.

Speaker 2:
[45:45] Got you. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[45:52] Love, Bumps and Broods is Predator. Oh, there's a trailer.

Speaker 2:
[45:56] And the birds are very excited. Oh, they charpy.

Speaker 1:
[45:59] Yeah, like, that's what I'm saying here. That's what I'm thinking. Cause I'm also like, wow, Usher, okay, cool. At the same time, Chris Brown's last tour was doing huge numbers. It's no secret that lots of celebrities still love him and support him and shit. So not only does Usher not give a fuck what we think, he's probably ready to have a blast and paying attention to who are ready to have a blast with them. Similar to my statement about niggas who are like, yeah, Prusha, I'll still go back to prison with you. I'm going to be praying for y'all as well.

Speaker 2:
[46:39] Yeah, because this is a long ass tour and watch it. If it don't settle out, it'll be damn near. It's going to be packed.

Speaker 1:
[46:46] Yeah, it's going to do numbers.

Speaker 2:
[46:47] If you were disappointed at the bitches at the Kanye Show, prepare your heart and mind to be even sadder because... I mean, it's June through the rest of the year, these niggas are going to be touring, and they're going everywhere, all over the country, every major city, and some small ones too. So you can just prepare yourself. They're going everywhere. They are going everywhere, multiple days.

Speaker 1:
[47:09] So like, do they have... Okay, let me look at the dates, because I didn't even bother. I was just like...

Speaker 2:
[47:17] It's June 26th through December 11th.

Speaker 1:
[47:20] I said, not you, but of course you. Actually, it really didn't surprise me. It really didn't.

Speaker 2:
[47:27] No, it was just more like, damn, I really got to let you go. Like, I really have to let you go, bro. I cannot support it.

Speaker 1:
[47:33] Like, you are now officially the person.

Speaker 2:
[47:35] Yeah, you really, really are.

Speaker 1:
[47:37] Yikes. I want to see where they're going. Toro also partnered with Global Citizen.

Speaker 2:
[47:46] Oh, of course. Sure. Why not? That doesn't have to mean anything.

Speaker 1:
[47:52] Photoshoots, Jesus.

Speaker 2:
[47:55] They're going everywhere. Glendale? Wow. OK. Tampa.

Speaker 1:
[47:59] Oh, yeah, these are both, these are American. I was, well, yeah, this is the American leg, I'm sure.

Speaker 2:
[48:04] Well, there's so many countries. Chris Brown probably can't even get into. So let's just keep it domestic where we don't have any rules about behavior and the way you have to act in order to make money here.

Speaker 1:
[48:16] So he sold out South Africa two days in a row.

Speaker 2:
[48:20] There you go.

Speaker 1:
[48:21] And what I believe is the biggest stadium in the world. Let me look at it.

Speaker 2:
[48:24] People just, they do not care. I really have had to come to terms with it. Like, Chris Brown got a massive list. It don't even have to just be Rihanna. There's a long, long, and I did this at a live show a couple of years ago, reading off a list of all the shit Chris Brown has done since the Rihanna incident. And people just do not care. So, okay, like I can't stop y'all, obviously. And I'm not going to drive myself crazy trying to do it. I'm just not going to go. And I'm going to call y'all birds.

Speaker 1:
[48:56] It's the biggest-

Speaker 2:
[48:56] And I'm going to call you a fucking bird.

Speaker 1:
[48:59] It's the biggest stadium in Africa. Excuse my flub. But yeah, two days in a row, that bitch was sold out. 94,736 is the capacity.

Speaker 2:
[49:12] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[49:13] He will be touring abroad.

Speaker 2:
[49:15] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[49:15] With this Raymond and Barizos.

Speaker 2:
[49:18] And if R. Kelly was out, they would have him on the tour too.

Speaker 1:
[49:22] Did you hear Kaye Michelle say that she was in a relationship with him?

Speaker 2:
[49:25] I did.

Speaker 1:
[49:26] And that she has deep love for him?

Speaker 2:
[49:27] That she was in love with him.

Speaker 1:
[49:28] That's the thing that did not surprise or disappoint me.

Speaker 2:
[49:30] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[49:31] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[49:32] I said, wow, you chirping too. Like, first of all, I hate to watch any clip of that man. What's his name? Justin James? Jason Lee. Yes. I hate to watch anything to do with that man. Something, somebody. But he asked her, has she ever slept with R. Kelly? And she was like, oh yeah. Like, okay, so that's why you was doing all that advocating and making excuses and all this shit. Although she tried to clean it up this time. And she was like, you know, Robert was there wrong for some of the stuff he did, but you got to hold the mothers accountable and all the wah-wah-wah. All that.

Speaker 1:
[50:11] What happened to that girl?

Speaker 2:
[50:13] But yeah, it was actually deeply pathetic because then she started talking about how she was desperately deeply in love with that man and wanted him so bad. And he didn't give one shit about her other than how she motivated him to write music. And Jason Lee asked her if she had written him a letter in jail. And she was like, you trying to be shady? Like, you trying to be funny? And he looked like he didn't know what she meant. And I'm like, that's obviously, she thought you were referencing the fact that that can't read. But anyway.

Speaker 1:
[50:47] I'm sorry, that one went over my head.

Speaker 2:
[50:51] I don't even think Jason Lee was thinking about it like that. That's what I would have meant. I would have definitely been trying to be shady. Like, did you write him a letter? Did you put it in big block letters and have somebody help him sound it out? But yeah, she another one, man. She's out here to the giant fucking pile of bird bitches ready to do any thing for a man.

Speaker 1:
[51:12] See, but you would have delivered it in a way that would have been funny.

Speaker 2:
[51:15] And clear that I was right. Exactly. He genuinely meant it.

Speaker 1:
[51:23] Damn.

Speaker 2:
[51:24] Yeah, I did.

Speaker 1:
[51:26] Damn, that is funny.

Speaker 2:
[51:27] Why would you tell us?

Speaker 1:
[51:28] That is so funny.

Speaker 2:
[51:29] I just don't know why you would tell us that he was so deeply in love or you were so deeply in love and he was just like, oh yeah, she here as well. Like you could have kept that to yourself.

Speaker 1:
[51:39] I wouldn't have admitted to knowing him.

Speaker 2:
[51:41] Well, you can't get away from it at this point because there's so many people who are upset you for being aligned with that man. So you basically just confirmed what everybody already suspected.

Speaker 1:
[51:55] If they asked me if I ever had sex with him, I would have did like Megan when she was first asked.

Speaker 2:
[52:00] Oh yeah, no, I'm lying.

Speaker 1:
[52:02] Why would I ever do that? I'm lying.

Speaker 2:
[52:04] Oh, I'm lying through my fucking teeth because who got the proof? I'm lying. Hard and I don't care. I don't owe y'all the truth about my fucking pussy. No, I'm lying. My under oath, I am lying.

Speaker 1:
[52:20] That should be on a shirt.

Speaker 2:
[52:27] This ain't community.

Speaker 1:
[52:28] That is merch, bitch. That is merch. That bitch said, you always acting like you help a, go help yourself. I know that he was like, because I think the large portion of this is from Papu's And It's Hurt. I waved at this bitch. We were, I thought we were equally yoked. I don't understand how we've gotten to this place. Now I'm outside. And so I'm gonna, I'm gonna find me a bitch who's obsessed with me the way that I want someone to be obsessed with me. And I'm a lie. And I'm obsessed. And it feels like he finally stepped out and was like, girl, you're gonna shut up and you're gonna shut up now. And then Clarissa, I said, the bright side of things for Clarissa is that at least when she over there punching the air is practice. So, okay.

Speaker 2:
[53:34] All right.

Speaker 1:
[53:35] You know, there's some give and take there, because man, did she line you up like a fresh haircut. Jesus. But you've been so, they've been talking a lot of shit around me.

Speaker 2:
[53:46] Yeah. And she has-

Speaker 1:
[53:47] Who's she woken up?

Speaker 2:
[53:48] Yeah. And you know, she, she responded in a way that I wish more rappers would respond, which is in the studio. So I, and it was, it sounded incredible. I just, Papoose had to go find somebody younger and frankly, more foolish in order to, to align themselves with him in this way. So-

Speaker 1:
[54:11] Hoes be doing the most over So So Did.

Speaker 2:
[54:15] Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Remy said she had better digs- And I saw-

Speaker 1:
[54:22] I saw somebody on YouTube who was like, okay, I see how it go. He wasn't even negative. He was probably joking. He was joking, but he was like, see, now it's So So. Now it's So So, but back then, all right, all right. All right, Remy, let me see. I see Remy being petty. And I was like, girl, that was her husband. That was supposed to be her forever. Now let's tap in and we ask these ladies, how many that they're locked in with that give them, okay, all right, I'll take it, dick. It's not terrible, fine.

Speaker 2:
[54:55] Yeah. Yeah. And the girlies be attached. So I did see this where Clarissa had a ring on and she was like, ring on my finger, no ring on your finger, engaged. And then somebody asked Pap about it and he was like, absolutely not. That is not no damn engagement ring.

Speaker 1:
[55:20] You're lying.

Speaker 2:
[55:21] No, he was on Vlad TV and he was like, uh, no, we bought each other Christmas gifts and Valentine's day and all that, but not a ring. He said, absolutely not.

Speaker 1:
[55:33] That's humiliating.

Speaker 2:
[55:35] Yikes.

Speaker 1:
[55:38] Why couldn't he lie? Sometimes lies are like.

Speaker 2:
[55:43] Damn, girl. Damn, cause what?

Speaker 1:
[55:49] Also, like, why are you flashing a ring at me, bitch? He's filing for divorce from me after I left him. I've been had a ring. I don't want it no more. Why are you trying to yandy Smith me? That is so embarrassing. And then he was like, no, I'm not marrying a bitch. I just gave her a present.

Speaker 2:
[56:10] Engage. Fuck no. We've had presents, but like, let's be for real. Meanwhile, I might even divorce. His nostrils were so wide open for Remy that he exchanged vows with her while she was still locked up. So, I mean, you were in like probably sixth grade at that time, so you might not remember, but damn, girl. I would be embarrassed.

Speaker 1:
[56:34] Oh, fuck. And that's how she posted some shit. After the song came out, she was like, it was one of those meme quotes. They said something like, throwing shade from the gutter must be a wild experience. Simultaneously, she's posting a chain or something that she got from Lemon Pepper over at Zeus, because I guess she's working on a show at Zeus.

Speaker 2:
[56:58] Oh, God.

Speaker 1:
[56:58] So, so, Madam Shields, Big Mama Shields, The Gutter. You're about to have a program run alongside Natalie Nunn's face and Jocelyn Hernandez's ass. Right.

Speaker 2:
[57:17] Speaking of the hood, speaking of the fucking gutter, girl, you do not get more gutter than Zeus Network. So, this high horse, where is it coming from?

Speaker 1:
[57:31] I hate when I see beautiful, powerful women.

Speaker 2:
[57:34] Same.

Speaker 1:
[57:34] Just.

Speaker 2:
[57:35] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[57:36] Absorbed.

Speaker 2:
[57:37] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[57:38] Into nigginess that isn't. Like, if you are going to be obsessing over a nigga, let it be a nigga of your ilk. Like, you're a young woman, an amazing talent. That's why you keep asking this lady, like you keep saying, oh, I'll fight you, oh, get in the ring with me this, that and the third. You are, Crissle's right. Maybe it's a sixth grade of it. Because if you were more aware, you would know that that lady's not fighting anybody. I think she reminded you of that on the song.

Speaker 2:
[58:16] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[58:19] But she's not gonna...

Speaker 2:
[58:20] Wrapping her ass off over a crazy beat, too. And like, ugh, I just... The girls have got to stop acting like this behind niggas that don't even... You flashing a ring on Instagram, and Papoose is being asked about it, and he like, fuck, no, I ain't engaged to her. And yet, you crashing out every other day behind this nigga? Girl.

Speaker 1:
[58:43] And then here go his wife that Ben left his motherfucking ass. Like, I don't know why you're speaking to me. That nigga's dick is okay. I also know what his head is like. Why are you... And I don't want either of them anymore. And I've been quiet with you bitches. But now he trying to act like he wrote music for me. Ho, write music for you.

Speaker 2:
[59:06] And do it quickly.

Speaker 1:
[59:07] Because this rapping that I'm doing right now?

Speaker 2:
[59:09] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:10] Yeah, it gave this before I met you.

Speaker 2:
[59:12] It did.

Speaker 1:
[59:13] It gave... It's giving this after. It gave this during. What did you write?

Speaker 2:
[59:18] So why are the verses still good? Because you certainly didn't write this. Make it make sense. If you made me, then make another me, bitch. I don't want to do that. Let's see it. I'll wait.

Speaker 1:
[59:33] We've had to tell you this. We've had to say this over Megan. This was said for Nikki. They said this to Matthew and all. Just go ahead and push. You know, it's a pressure. Just keep on pushing. I'm sure that they critiqued each other's music. They're both huge battle rappers, amazing lyricists. I'm sure they listen to each other's music. Like this one, oh, this is fire. Beyoncé and Jay-Z listen to each other's music, you know?

Speaker 2:
[60:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[60:07] If one of them makes music, they're probably going to let the other one listen to it. Duh. But 90%? Come on. I think Clarissa was in the room. And I mean, why wouldn't she be? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[60:25] Yeah, because why else would you say this? Like, you know, niggas just start, they get to exaggerating and feeling themselves and wanting to put their dick on the table and not look weak or whatever in front of their girl. And you just let all kind of lies and fallacies come out your mouth. And now here we are. I hope y'all listen to this and decide to leave that lady alone. Why don't y'all focus on y'all relationships since y'all so happy? Why don't y'all just focus on each other?

Speaker 1:
[60:50] She posted some shit like a day or two ago. And she was like... Something like, I'm trying real hard not to stir the pot, or every day I got to convince myself not to start stirring the pot. That's what he said. You been stirring the pot once, once stopped now.

Speaker 2:
[61:07] Right. What you mean? You've been doing a horrible job of holding back. This was you holding back. You talk about that lady all the time. Every week on this fucking show.

Speaker 1:
[61:17] All the time.

Speaker 2:
[61:20] You're doing a horrible job. Very bad job at controlling yourself.

Speaker 1:
[61:27] I'm like, when this goes up in the air, girl. And it will.

Speaker 2:
[61:32] Yeah. Yup. Yup.

Speaker 1:
[61:40] To all my sisters out there, I halfway said this on the new pod about y'all with ugly. But this is a bigger problem with that. Ugly niggas, fine. Are they worth it, Jesus? Are they worth it, Jesus? Are they worth it, Jesus?

Speaker 2:
[61:59] No, never.

Speaker 1:
[62:04] It's going to be a front of the hot tops. Learn something from this. All right, we're back and it's time for the letters.

Speaker 2:
[62:14] Yes, it is. Send your questions to askthereed.gmail.com. We may read them aloud on the show. We have an update this week from Francis. If you'll remember, Francis emailed us because her mom decided to come see her in Atlanta, even though she told her not to when she told her mom to turn around and take her black ass back home. Francis said, hey, y'all, I cannot believe you read my letter. I haven't laughed this hard at myself in a long time. Thank you. I appreciate the advice you gave. I do have the tendency to close myself off from others when I'm going through a rough time. I guess I can try being around people and see how that goes. Even if my boundaries were crossed, I understand that my mom and sister love me and were just concerned. My sister happened to be arriving in town within an hour of my mom's arrival, so my mom stayed with my sister in her hotel room that night. The next day, she took her two-hour shuttle back home. Before leaving town, my mom sent a text asking, you really not going to let me see you this morning before I leave? I responded with, do you understand why I'm upset? She said, never mind. A few days later, my mom and sister just started texting me like nothing happened, so I just joined on in and we acted like everything was normal. I've suspected I might be neurodivergent for a little while, so this situation gave me the final push I needed to get tested and evaluated. $1,300 and multiple tests later, I found out that I have both ADHD and autism. Never in my 37 years of living has anyone even suggested that I might be neurodivergent, so I am still a little bit floored. Apparently, women of color are severely underdiagnosed for multiple reasons, including economic hurdles and our tendency to mask our neurodivergent traits extremely well. I told my mom and sister about my diagnosis and while they were visibly shocked, after a few seconds, my mom started to shake her head and she said, you know what, that make a lot of sense.

Speaker 1:
[64:06] Moms? And it just happens to you. I don't even think you make the decision to be the mom before you. Wow. That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 2:
[64:19] It's powerful. Yeah. They've been nothing but lovely and supportive about the whole situation and I love them two bits. To all the weird black folks out there, I'm not saying that all of us are neurodivergent, but if you've wondered about it, it may be worth looking into. Thanks again, Francis. PS. Can't wait to see y'all at your anniversary show. Congrats. Love you guys. Francis, I'm glad it worked out with your family. Glad you got a diagnosis. It's a little, the whole we just kind of brush past it and pretend like did nothing happen is a little problematic, but I'm glad y'all have that.

Speaker 1:
[64:55] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[64:56] I'm going to let y'all have that. I'm glad you're happy and that you have found out some things about yourself that maybe are affecting the way you interact with others. So good luck moving forward.

Speaker 1:
[65:07] Shout out to the point of pushing other, specifically black women to go and check it out.

Speaker 2:
[65:16] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[65:17] Because you hit some things on the head if you're talking about it. That's another reason we say that therapy for black people should be free.

Speaker 2:
[65:25] Really should. Should be part of our reparations actually, but.

Speaker 1:
[65:28] I mean.

Speaker 2:
[65:30] We deserve. But yes, good luck babe. This letter actually ties right in with our listener letters. This one comes from Kelly who said, My mom texted me and my brother asking if we could buy her ushering Criss Brown tickets for her birthday. I love my mother and she has done a lot for us. She sacrifices a lot for me and my brother and she always has for our entire lives. I even got a lot of my musical taste from her. So normally when she asks us to do things for her, I usually want to, but sometimes I can't due to my financial situation, which living in New York City for nine years will do to you. It's very true. The problem is that I hate Criss Brown. I've hated him since the Rihanna situation. His frequent violence towards women and all of his music sounding the same does not help. I forgot about the fact that I had a son.

Speaker 1:
[66:21] Girl, you gotta just skip this part. You gotta skip this part and just wait. Girl.

Speaker 2:
[66:29] Usher also just came out as a diddy sympathizer, so it's chopped for him as well. My mom is hurt though because she feels like it shouldn't be about how I feel about it. It should be about making her happy. She also mentioned that if the tickets are expensive, we can use Klarna or Affirm for them. But the entire concept of using Klarna for Criss Brown is so ridiculous to me that it is laughable.

Speaker 1:
[66:52] Put me in the ground instead.

Speaker 2:
[66:57] The tickets haven't gone on sale yet, but I'm starting to feel bad. Should I let my hatred for Criss Brown and Usher's actions stop my mom from enjoying the show? My brother and I would both be paying for it, so I do feel like we should have some say. I don't know if this is oldest daughter guilt, but I'm feeling guilty. My mom is an older millennial and works really hard, so she deserves to enjoy herself as much as she can. But I just can't see myself paying money to Criss Brown. What would y'all do in this situation? Thanks, Kelly. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[67:31] Kelly, if you got this far into the episode, I think you know where we're going.

Speaker 2:
[67:39] Baby.

Speaker 1:
[67:39] Should your hatred for Criss Brown stop you from letting your mother enjoy the show? Yes. Yes, it should stop.

Speaker 2:
[67:47] Yeah. It should.

Speaker 1:
[67:49] Your mother, I could tell that your mother was an older millennial. What's wrong with you? Because Usher. There is no other reason. You're a mother that wants to go to this concert? Let's be for real. Yet and still, even the Criss Brown of it, here we are with Usher today. I think it's actually wild, and it is another example of mother just happening to you, I guess, because how you are pretty much my age, and you say some shit like, it shouldn't be about how you feel about Criss Brown, then you'll pay for it, how the fuck you're not supposed to be about how I feel when you ask me for money for you to go.

Speaker 2:
[68:41] It's-

Speaker 1:
[68:42] Girl, ask your momma to get on Klarna for it. Imagine, imagine, Crissle, imagine walking down to Klarna Boulevard and asking them to help you fund Criss Brown tickets for your mammy.

Speaker 2:
[68:56] Can I give y'all $40 every two weeks for the next year and a half so that my momma can go see Criss Brown? Fuck no. What if these tickets are like $500? Oh shit.

Speaker 1:
[69:10] Girl, at minimum.

Speaker 2:
[69:11] Like, this is not going to be cheap. This is going to be expensive. At all. So.

Speaker 1:
[69:17] At all.

Speaker 2:
[69:18] Yeah. At all.

Speaker 1:
[69:20] You're gonna have to break bank for that lady to watch it with binoculars.

Speaker 2:
[69:23] Right, right. The nosebleeds are gonna be high. I really believe it. I do. So I think the furthest I would be willing to go is like me and my brother get together and be like, okay, for Mother's Day, we are going to pay your electric bill and get you a gas card.

Speaker 1:
[69:45] There it is. There it is.

Speaker 2:
[69:48] So that should free up some of your income.

Speaker 1:
[69:51] There it is.

Speaker 2:
[69:51] For you to go on down to your firm and ask them niggas about some. You know, for Mother's Day, we will pay half your car note or something. You know, something like that. But my money directly going to them niggas is, it's a no. And if that pisses you off or that's not good enough, then you find a way to go to the show and pay for it yourself then, sister.

Speaker 1:
[70:16] Why don't I also buy you a Cybertruck driver?

Speaker 2:
[70:22] Why don't we get some MAGA hats to go along with it and some Free R. Kelly t-shirts? Like, girl, no, fuck! I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1:
[70:31] It shouldn't be about how you feel about it. It's insane.

Speaker 2:
[70:35] The way where my money goes, my feelings shouldn't have anything to do with how I spend my money. Is everyone all right?

Speaker 1:
[70:47] Are we? Is there a gas leak around this bitch?

Speaker 2:
[70:51] If your man beat your ass and went to jail for it, and then you asked me for $400 to bail him out, do you think my feelings about where the money is going shouldn't influence whether I give it to you? Are you well?

Speaker 1:
[71:03] I mean...

Speaker 2:
[71:05] So, like I said, the most I'll be willing to do is help take some of your financial burden off of your household expenses so that you can use your money how you want to. And I would literally only do that because you're my mother who has sacrificed a lot for me and I love you.

Speaker 1:
[71:19] T. What did she say the name was?

Speaker 2:
[71:22] Kelly.

Speaker 1:
[71:23] Kelly, that is it. I don't think he can get better advice than that. That was so T. Mama, do you know what we will do? Because we're never, we're never funding your trip to Bumson Breeze. So what we can do is carry some other shit over here for you so that maybe you can coin it yourself. If there is an argument to that.

Speaker 2:
[71:49] She don't want to go that bad.

Speaker 1:
[71:51] She does not want to go.

Speaker 2:
[71:55] Because how can you argue with me about this? You see the shit these have done. Why do you want to go? Because now we really finna argue. Why do you want to go? Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[72:05] Why?

Speaker 2:
[72:05] Now, let's get down to the real me. Oh, you don't feel like you should have to defend your taste in music or whatever? Fine. I don't feel like I should have to defend not wanting to give my money to horrible niggas.

Speaker 1:
[72:15] Why is this confusing? I'm like, why are we talking about this? Like, if this bitch was, if he was going on tour like Smokey Robinson, that'd be like, okay, I'm not really expecting your generation to really be on the fence or nothing.

Speaker 2:
[72:36] Right. I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1:
[72:38] An older millennial? Why do you want to go?

Speaker 2:
[72:43] And you know, she's not alone. So many people do. So-

Speaker 1:
[72:46] That's true.

Speaker 2:
[72:47] You can go.

Speaker 1:
[72:48] She just has kids.

Speaker 2:
[72:49] You can go. But you better pray he come into your city, because if he not, then you're going to have to look at flight or drive-in and hotel and all that other shit, which is additional cost, obviously. But the tickets are not going to be cheap. So hopefully me and my brother are going in on your grocery bill or whatever. Hopefully that helps out. But no, I'm not buying the ticket for you. No.

Speaker 1:
[73:12] Because I also saw the media socials talking about, I guess it's going to be a road trip. I guess we're doing road trips this summer, babes.

Speaker 2:
[73:22] Are y'all?

Speaker 1:
[73:23] So yeah. And gas is still $15 a gallon.

Speaker 2:
[73:27] Yeah, it is. It is. And flights are so much worse. So guess what?

Speaker 1:
[73:33] So yeah, you better hope Raymond and Brown are stopping down the block, babe.

Speaker 2:
[73:38] Figure it out, babe.

Speaker 1:
[73:41] Because I'm paying one bill, Terrence is paying one bill. That is that.

Speaker 2:
[73:46] And I'm putting that money in your mother's day card so that you understand it's going both ways.

Speaker 1:
[73:51] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[73:51] Mother's day is around the corner.

Speaker 1:
[73:52] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That is wild that she want to go to this concert and want her kids to pay for it. And then try to dog them about not wanting to pay for it. Not even just because like, oh, it's expensive, which should be enough, right? If you hit your kid and you want to go see, I don't know, you want to go see Adele.

Speaker 2:
[74:15] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[74:15] And they're like, we can't, the money is too expensive, whatever.

Speaker 2:
[74:18] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[74:18] Trying to be like, well, it shouldn't be how you feel about it. I hate to do this for your mother. I would tell you to go lay down on the ladies' lawn.

Speaker 2:
[74:25] I live in New York City. Do you understand that the price you pay for things is cheaper than the price I pay for things? And that's everything. Groceries, rent, everything. Little small shit, allergy pills.

Speaker 1:
[74:38] Dollar pizza is $5 now.

Speaker 2:
[74:40] You can't even get dollar slices no more. I'm like, back in my day, you used to be able to eat in New York City for $2. You used to be able to take $5 to Vanessa's and get you a whole meal and have change. Bitch, you don't. Okay, I'm old.

Speaker 1:
[74:58] Remember when we would walk from the first Read studio and stop to get the pizza?

Speaker 2:
[75:02] Yes, yes. Down there in the financial district.

Speaker 1:
[75:05] Less than $5.

Speaker 2:
[75:06] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[75:07] Full, full, delicious.

Speaker 2:
[75:11] When I was working at MTV and was broke most of the time, all the dollar pizza shops over there by Times Square, I literally would scrape together four quarters and go eat, like.

Speaker 1:
[75:22] Four quarters.

Speaker 2:
[75:23] So yeah.

Speaker 1:
[75:24] Lunch.

Speaker 2:
[75:25] So yeah. You could be going to see somebody, you could be asking for Ray tickets and I don't have money for you to go see Ray. But for niggas I hate.

Speaker 1:
[75:35] I have money for me to go see Ray.

Speaker 2:
[75:37] I mean, I am going to see Ray, actually. I did break down and buy the ticket.

Speaker 1:
[75:42] Of course, that's going to be one of the best shows to go to.

Speaker 2:
[75:44] I fucking have to see this show. And then of course, somebody DM me after that and was like, Oh, I work for Radio City. I could have got you the ticket for way cheaper. I'm like, fuck. But anyway, you know, I'm going, I'm going.

Speaker 1:
[75:58] Next time you got to remember to give it some time.

Speaker 2:
[76:00] Yeah. Stay on the show and give it 72 hours to see if somebody come through for me. But yeah, imagine seeing, imagine seeing Chris Brown and Usher on your credit card statement and being disgusted. Like, I don't want to die and get to the pearly gates and have to answer for that.

Speaker 1:
[76:20] Not to mention, you spent that $750 for this abuser tour. You also have to go.

Speaker 2:
[76:29] No.

Speaker 1:
[76:30] Here are all the things I could have used.

Speaker 2:
[76:31] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[76:32] That $750 on that one.

Speaker 2:
[76:34] Yeah. In this expensive ass city, right? I could have ubered for a month. Oh no, girl, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1:
[76:42] Just a month.

Speaker 2:
[76:42] Oh yeah, just one month. And maybe not even enough for the whole month, but I could have done. My own bills. I have my own bills, mommy. Everything is expensive. So yeah.

Speaker 1:
[76:55] Surprise, breaking news.

Speaker 2:
[76:56] If this compromise is not good enough, then I guess you don't want to go, girl.

Speaker 1:
[77:01] I can't think of a better compromise.

Speaker 2:
[77:02] Yeah. Good luck, Kelly. Our next letter comes from B, who says, I'm a 32 year old black gay man and I'm in a relationship with a 39 year old black gay man for the last year. A couple of weeks ago, he told me that my gift giving felt like love bombing. That really caught me off guard because I do enjoy giving gifts, but it hasn't been excessive. And since the year started, I've only given him a gift for Valentine's Day and a dozen roses, which is what prompted his comment. Even though I was surprised, I tried to stay open and hear him out. He explained that in past relationships, partners would give him gifts when things weren't going well as a way to smooth things over. I asked if things between us were okay and he said yes. So I followed up by asking how those past experiences applied to our relationship and he really didn't have an answer. As we kept talking, it seemed like he realized that he may have been projecting those past experiences on to me and our relationship and spoke without fully thinking it through. He apologized and we moved on, but his comment has stuck with me. Now I feel turned off from giving him gifts altogether. His birthday is coming up and I don't feel motivated to give him a god damn thing to make matters more complicated. After that conversation, he bought me something that I had mentioned wanting, and I responded with a petty little comment when I received it. I know that wasn't the best reaction, but I'm still feeling irritated. I don't want to hold a grudge, but his comment really rubbed me the wrong way, and I'm not sure how to move on. Please help sincerely be. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[78:44] Yeah, so be in Ambe needs a little couch crystal. Because first of all, I'm not entirely sure what qualifies as love bombing.

Speaker 2:
[78:57] It's not this.

Speaker 1:
[78:59] Okay, thank you.

Speaker 2:
[79:01] It's not two gifts in four and a half months, but also y'all have been together for over a year, and love bombing happens shortly after you meet, and someone is like overwhelming this new relationship with lots of affection and grand gestures. And I just bought tickets for us to go to Paris tomorrow, pack your things, and it's excessive, over-the-top stuff early in the relationship. Somebody like a year in, a nigga buying you a dozen roses out of nowhere is not love bombing. Like, your man should have looked up what love bombing was before he even said that. And this is part of the problem with therapy terms making it to the mainstream and getting distilled to where they mean nothing. Because that's just not what that is. But, you know, y'all talked about it. He realized he was wrong, but now you're irritated.

Speaker 1:
[79:52] Yes. That is so funny.

Speaker 2:
[79:59] Love bombing, okay, fuck your birthday it is. So you're feeling petty about it. Which I understand, but yeah, you're gonna have to find a way to either let go of this grudge or let go of this relationship. And I don't know that that's necessarily the healthiest thing to do. Because, yeah, this sounds like it could be worth working through.

Speaker 1:
[80:24] Yeah, I mean, I thought we were gonna have to be like, okay, he needs to maybe talk to somebody about, was it like deflecting or projecting or whatever. But it sounds like y'all spoke, and he was like, oh yeah, maybe I am fucking tripping, and you're still upset. So I'm thinking, is it possible that, like, what could be the depth of him, of you, like, taking offense to love bombing, accusation. Because I feel like in my head, if we talked about it, and he was like, okay, yeah, I think I was tripping, I think I would take it as, okay, this was not prepared for me to be as affectionate or romantic or giving as I still am. He wasn't prepared for me to love him so much. Oh, we're talking about exes. Okay, I don't know that I would still hold on to it. This gives me both of y'all need. The couch, because now you're like, well, I'm not giving this nothing for his birthday. And I don't give a fuck what he gives me.

Speaker 2:
[81:41] Since I'm love bombing, yo bitch ass. Right. Shit. So there's a lot of reasons why you may have taken that to heart. And honestly, I can see how it would have pissed me off for multiple reasons using love bombing incorrectly.

Speaker 1:
[81:57] Yeah. You know what love bombing is.

Speaker 2:
[82:01] Having the nerve to bring that up when all I did was buy your bitch ass some flowers. I get it. I think you're going to have to make a real decision to let it go. Like, I forgive you for pissing me off. I forgive you for projecting them other niggas and they shit onto me. I didn't deserve that. This has caused a rift. And the same way y'all had to talk it through and he had to realize he was wrong, I would come to him and say, you know, I've really been feeling a way that you accused me of love bombing, which didn't make sense for multiple reasons. Like, and I'm having trouble letting it go. And talking about it with a friend might help. If you have friends who have good sense, don't ask your crash out friend who's never been in a long time relationship. You know, ask somebody who...

Speaker 1:
[82:57] Hey, you know that's what they want to ask first. You know that's what they want to ask first.

Speaker 2:
[83:01] Don't ask the bitch who's going to immediately jump to break up with him. Don't ask somebody who knows how to... Who's had experience with working through issues in a relationship. Of course, if you have a therapist, I would obviously suggest reaching out to them. But you might need to talk to your man about it and be like, I'm just having trouble letting it go. And it really sounds like forgiveness is at the root of it, even though it sounds like forgive for what? It's very offensive that somebody would accuse you of being manipulative or, you know, deceitful in some way when all you were trying to do is express emotion and care for this person. Like, it is understandable that that would make you feel a way. But forgiveness is huge here. So you may have to consciously let it go.

Speaker 1:
[83:51] I'm going to say, yeah, maybe when you do speak with a friend or something, you can pick at specifically what is still bothering you about it so that when you do talk to him, it can be clear. But I wouldn't be surprised if it is whether conscious or subconscious, if it is like, did this thing accuse me of trying to manipulate him and to stay with me or like him? It doesn't make sense for that to still at least be in the back of your mind looking at you.

Speaker 2:
[84:18] Right, cause like, damn, I bought you a dozen roses. Like, what happened to thank you, baby? This is so sweet. I really appreciate it. Like, what?

Speaker 1:
[84:30] That's wild.

Speaker 2:
[84:31] So, yeah, Bey. But it sounds like your man is a reasonable person. Like, he can admit when he's wrong. He can admit when he's overstepped. So, I would definitely talk to him about the fact that you're having these lingering feelings. Journal about it. Talk to somebody you trust, et cetera, et cetera. And, you know, just look up different tactics for deliberately trying to forgive someone. There's a lot of information on the internet about that. But, yeah, I think that's what you need here. Because feeling so pissed that you're contemplating not getting him anything for his birthday lets me know this is hitting you in a deeper place.

Speaker 1:
[85:13] Oh, yeah. that birth is deep.

Speaker 2:
[85:18] Right. It is. So.

Speaker 1:
[85:20] But I get it.

Speaker 2:
[85:21] I do, too. Good luck, babe. Our last letter comes from Marie, who says, I've been going to therapy for a couple of years now, but I recently switched therapists because I felt like I needed a change. I wanted someone who could give it to me raw and uncut, really help me with my self-love journey and push me forward in my process of healing. I'm hard headed, but I've also been dealing with the biggest manipulative, covert, narcissistic bitch in the world for the past three years. This new therapist is way different from my old one. She's an older Caribbean lady and she does not play any games. The first couple of sessions, she told me that dealing with this man was my fault, I'm insecure and I need to love myself more. Although those things were shocking to hear, I can see that point of view and it does ring true in some capacity, but our last session really left me heartbroken. Since I cut that toxic man out of my life in January and started seeing this new therapist in March, I've been trying to recover and pour into myself. I'm still going through waves of sadness and feeling abandoned along with so many other emotions. I'm really hard on myself, but in our last session, I just felt like my therapist was being really hard on me. She told me again that I'm insecure and also that I'm male-centered and saying that she would recommend me not talking to or dating anyone for about two years. I was hoping that she would pat me on the back and give me some words of encouragement or some other kind of positivity because I've been trying to get back on track with feeling joy within myself. With all that said, is therapy supposed to hurt sometimes? I thought therapy was supposed to be a sense of relief. Do you think it would be best for me to stick with this therapist? Is it common for you to leave therapy feeling worse than you did when you started? Thanks, Marie. Oh, Jesus Christ. It is common to leave therapy feeling worse than you did when you started, but not because your therapist dragged the fuck out of you and made you feel like a bad person. No, girl. You're supposed to be feeling bad because you're digging through some deep-rooted shit and it's exhausting work, not because your therapist was like, God damn, you a pussy ass bitch. When you gonna stop caring about these niggas and focus on yourself? you weak as shit, insecure asshole, like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1:
[87:43] Right.

Speaker 2:
[87:44] But also culturally...

Speaker 1:
[87:45] Are you bullying me?

Speaker 2:
[87:46] Culturally, there can be really big differences in therapists and how they approach things. Her being older and Caribbean probably contributes to that, both of those actually. Um, but I... This is, this is why when people say, I want a therapist who will really just give it to me straight and be hard on me and all this, that to me is always a sign that like, what you actually need is a giant well of compassion and care more than anything. And you just don't know it. You think tough love is what you need. Somebody just need to yell at you so you can get your dumb ass up and get your shit together. But you've probably had a lifetime of tough love which isn't loving at all. You've probably had years and years of that. And it doesn't help. It actually just provokes feelings of shame and self-hatred and depression and things like that. Like what most of us need is to have love and compassion and care and encouragement poured into ourselves. That's what we're missing. We're not missing the people being mean and trying to drag us by our asses and force us to do better. That's not... We don't lack that. We don't lack that. We have plenty of that.

Speaker 1:
[89:03] We've said this before.

Speaker 2:
[89:04] So, you know, it sounds like you were with a therapist before who was maybe gentler and gave you more of this unconditional positive regard. And you were like, this pussy bitch. You being too sweet and you might have even thought, oh, this is taking too long. It'll, you know, therapy, I'll get through this faster. Somebody will just be realer with me. That's not how healing works.

Speaker 1:
[89:31] Exactly.

Speaker 2:
[89:32] It is not. Thank you. You can't bully yourself into loving yourself more and treating yourself with more kindness. It does not work in the long term.

Speaker 1:
[89:41] I wish it did.

Speaker 2:
[89:42] Same. Because then we would not need therapy. I would have never needed therapy if that worked.

Speaker 1:
[89:49] I would just like to get to 102, 103. No.

Speaker 2:
[89:54] Sorry.

Speaker 1:
[89:56] A hundred percent agree. I think, especially someone who has older Caribbean people in my family, not shocked. However, I also don't think it's helpful for your therapist to drag you. I don't think therapy is meant to be boot camp.

Speaker 2:
[90:18] It is not.

Speaker 1:
[90:19] I've had more than one therapist, two dedicated psychiatrists, other forms of therapy. None of them have ever been like, girl, you're insecure and you're broken from your family, trauma, and girl, get your shit together. Even if those things are true or rooted in true, the way that it is expressed to me, the way that it is shared with me is not harsh, it isn't inconsiderate, it's not condescending. It often, you can help me out here, I feel like a lot of the time, I've kind of walked that way rather than pushed. I'm kind of like, I feel like my doctors will kind of, it's almost like if I have blindfolds on and I'm doing like, what is this shit called? Hot or cold, warmer, hotter, hot or cold?

Speaker 2:
[91:21] Oh yeah, that game where you move around and they're telling you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[91:27] To me, therapy is kind of like that, where they're helping me unpack and figure out, they're not unpacking for me, they're not yelling at me to clean my room. It's more so like, okay, is this, these are linens? Okay, pull this up with you. Well, where do these go? Okay, very joy at the end of Inside Out 2.

Speaker 2:
[91:50] Yes, yes, exactly.

Speaker 1:
[91:52] What if we, okay. Yeah, I agree that you, and I'll speak for myself, I would love to make huge leaps through therapy and some issues and trauma sometimes. But if my therapist was like, bitch, it just would not work.

Speaker 2:
[92:10] Right.

Speaker 1:
[92:13] I would either feel ashamed or my feelings would be hurt. And I might just be like, I don't want to do therapy, which is the worst possible decision. I do agree, though. I call, as far as like the feeling bad or feeling worse after therapy, I've called it emotional exfoliation. And that was one time when my psychiatrist out here in LA was like, hmm. Like, he said something once and was like, I think you had a good idea. Yeah, it's sometimes you talk about shit that sucks, that's traumatic, that's very deeply embedded in you. You talk about things that you've ignored. You talk about things that you have put off because you don't want to think about it. And all those things are heavy. A lot of those things hurt. And talking about it and unpacking it, regardless of how you do it with this person, is often going to leave you feeling a little raw, a little, you know, you're bringing all this muck up to the top. But the therapist's job is to kind of help you clean that up without shame and without all of these other things that aren't helpful in the process of it. So kudos to you for just being like, I think I need some other kind of help. And maybe it was in your benefit that you met one of my aunties and that they gave you a different experience so you could know what works for you and what doesn't.

Speaker 2:
[93:45] Yes. Good luck, babe. This is, you know, this is not indicative of all older therapists or all Caribbean therapists. I'm sure some older Caribbean therapists is like, God damn it. Why would it be? It just had to be one of my sisters. But yeah, you know, this is just not the way to get people into a long-term habit of making good decisions. So this is why when people talk about, you know, they want tough love or they want a therapist that will be harsh with them. I'm like, I know what you are. I know what you are. Someone whose emotions were discarded or not cared about or somebody who has felt that way consistently over your life because you feel like you need to be bullied into healing and that just don't, it just doesn't make sense, babe. But good luck to you in moving forward. I don't think this therapist is the right fit for you. So I would suggest you maybe go back to the drawing board, find somebody else or maybe even hit up your other therapist, the one you had before. I just don't want y'all to forget that therapy is not necessarily supposed to be a quick process. Some people are in therapy for years and years for a very good reason because you've been through a lot of shit and it takes time. I actually, there was one client I had in my internship where I really fucked up because I started seeing her, I did, like a few months before graduation. I was like, damn, I don't have much time with her. Let me fast track this.

Speaker 1:
[95:28] Oh, you told me.

Speaker 2:
[95:29] Yes. So after one or two sessions, I was like, okay girl, here go your problems. That nigger, that, your job, mama, blah, blah, blah, blah. And not that I wasn't incorrect, but when you hit people like that upfront without having established a relationship or really. Yeah. Because I was like, we got to fast track this therapy because I don't have a lot of time.

Speaker 1:
[95:58] Rush hour.

Speaker 2:
[95:59] Right. Never saw her again. Never saw her again. She switched to somebody else. And this was an intense conversation that I had to have with my supervisor who was like, what made you think? Shit. Right. I mean, this is a mistake for a student to make, but it's something I learned firsthand that if my therapist, who I'm sure clocked a bunch of shit about me within the first month of seeing me, if she had laid it all out for me like that, I would have never gone back to see that. I would have been like, this bitch don't know me. Who are you talking to? You're not ready for that. You have to get to a place where you're ready for somebody to kind of walk you through those things. And it is a process. So please allow the process to unfold. You're trying to rush it. The elevator to good mental health is broken. You have to take the stairs. To paraphrase.

Speaker 1:
[96:55] Work, Jennifer Lewis.

Speaker 2:
[96:56] Jennifer Lewis. But good luck to you, rooting for you, babe. That is gonna wrap up The Letters this week. If you have a question for us, send it to askthereed.gmail.com. We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll be right back.

Speaker 1:
[97:13] We are back, folks out in the world. It's time for The Read. And I will start. I'm gonna try and rip through these. One, it's all the super-devout American Christians, Catholics, who voted for Garfield Mouth. Ha-ha, with an additional ha-ha-ha. You all were just, oh, he's doing God's work, and he's just a man of the cloth, and our good God, our Savior, Jesus Christ, sent us Donald Trump, too. Now this got AI photos of him as God and Jesus Christ. You all are like, well, well, I don't know about that, but he's trying to beef with the Pope.

Speaker 2:
[98:10] I could not believe this shit. This was on my list. The Pope, Okay, I'll just move on.

Speaker 1:
[98:19] Ha ha. Next. This was for Legos. So, Lego, I've been trying, like, you've really given me, like, a new pastime, new little con destresser. I've been really leaning back into my Legos, and I've gotten new ones that I'm really excited to put together. I have one, you can't see it, it's the whole office, from the office. Think I'm going to do that one, maybe this weekend. One I've been working on for the past couple of days is, like, a Marvel, it looks like a Marvel logo, and then it has some of the characters that can, like, sit in under some shit. But I was like, oh, that's a pretty easy one to display. It's just a big block that looks like the Marvel logo. I'm like, yeah. I didn't know that it had so many doodads and knobs and levers and shit like that inside of it. I wasn't accustomed to, you know, the Tears of the Kingdom style Lego building that we have here, where you think it's going to be simple, but in fact, you have to make a vehicle, a car, bikes and all of that. Didn't have a problem with that. I actually had a really, really great time putting together, we're going to put together the like 11 Lego bags that come in the box. I got up to bag 10. And I mean, at that point, all I really had to do after that was just put some of the other letters on the front. And I got to a piece that wasn't fitting quite right. And I said, you know, it's happened a couple of times. Okay, a quick fix. I have to just plug a couple of things off. Oh, here's the problem. This one was an issue that was so far back in the building process that I essentially had to take the whole thing apart and start over. Now, I will say that I give myself a lot of grace and a lot of, I'm gonna give myself a pat on the back for my temperament there, because a couple of years ago, I would have taken that Lego set that was, I think, 85 percent done. I probably would have chucked it into the ground, like I just won the football championship. I think they call that the Super Bowl. Then I would have just felt flames on the sides of my face, burning, heaving breaths. Instead, I calmly used a little weird orange lever that comes in the boxes. I took the thing apart. I didn't soak it. I started by ripping pieces, chunks of it off. And then I was like, okay, you're being childish and you're probably going to break it. And don't let this mistake that took place in making a toy take you to that level. Even though you're having a great time, you're almost done. And it is absolutely the fault of that shitty guidebook. Why didn't you just tell us that we should download the app? Why didn't you just tell us to download the app? It shouldn't be there's a guidebook in it, or you can use the LEGO Builder app. Use the LEGO Builder app. Why the fuck with all the pages? It's like you need a piece that needs to fit over on here, on this side, so let's put that side on the far side of the page. And you can't really see if it's the right piece because you can't turn it, but you can do that on the app. Like, at this point, do I have to be Alpha and make y'all Zordon? Do I need to be Jarvis? Do I need to be Alexa? Because it feels like I can't just read pages. I can't press buttons, I can't turn pages without being at a disadvantage. And now, when I do use your apps, I have to do it with AI. It was the tiniest thing. It was just this one little piece that was backwards. And I was like, okay, I can just move this, move that, move this. And everything's already lumped together. Lego, I am on your asses. And by that, I mean I'm not gonna do anything about it. I'm not gonna finish making the thing. And I'm gonna use the app this time. But I'm pissed. I am pissed. I was sucking my teeth so many times that poor Link went under the couch because I think she thought I was mad at her. But she has associated neat teeth sucking at me just being upset. There's so many times where I have had to go, Link, I'm not talking to you. Or Link, you're fine, come here. I'm sucking my teeth because I'm looking at this photo of Chris Brown and Osha sitting next to each other looking like two giddy dumb asses, so. LEGO, pissed, pissed! Now I know not to use, if I do get one of these fucking LEGO sets that has a pulley system and a conveyor belt and all that shit, I have to A, use the app, and B, be wide open sober. No wine and LEGOs, I guess, because, bitch, and I'm looking at those LEGO one piece sets. I have to have one. I need my chopper. I need the Going Mary. I need the little one piece live action LEGO sets after I do the office one and finish the Marvel one. Speaking of one piece, Megan Thee Stallion has a Popeye's and it's in Miami.

Speaker 2:
[104:11] Of course she does.

Speaker 1:
[104:12] Well, it's in Miami Beach. That ain't got nothing to do with us.

Speaker 2:
[104:18] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[104:19] Now, she has a Popeye's on Miami Beach. They are, I guess they're doing this new one piece collab, which is amazing. That Oda was like, yeah, sure. The little chicken place can have some one piece march. Part of the, she showed it off on TikTok or on Instagram. You get like, there's a chicken that comes in a cool treasure chest. There's a chopper cupcake and there's a gum gum lemonade. Named after the gum gum fruit from one piece. The double fruit that Luffy eats that makes them all stretchy. When she took a sip to say what it tastes like, I was like, not bubblegum, not bubblegum, because A, bubblegum flavored things are disgusting. And B, why would the gum gum fruit taste like bubblegum? It's a fruit. And she said it did taste like berry, but also bubblegum. And I was like, well, and on top of that, if I really want to be nerdy, Megan, you and I both know that devil fruit all taste nasty. They're all bad. They all taste horrible. Everybody knows that. It should have been like a gum gum mezcal. But I guess you can't do that at Popeye.

Speaker 2:
[105:40] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[105:43] Right. They're supposed to taste bad.

Speaker 2:
[105:45] Got it. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[105:47] Devil fruit all give you superpowers, but they taste horrible. So I was like, I know they're obviously not going to make a lemonade that tastes bad or any drink that tastes bad. I don't make no damn sense, but please don't tell me it tastes like gum. Fuck, Megan. Well, and even she, when she was sipping it, was giving the Brittany Broski where she was like, I don't know how to, it's good, but I don't know how to describe it. Okay. I still want to try it because it's Megan. It really sits on a beautiful intersection for me. Bad Bitches, Chicken, Miami Beach, and nerd shit. So when I'm back home, I will begrudgingly cross the bridge and try to taste the, I mean, I guess I would have to go soon. They never had that one piece of shit in there that long. Well, I'll think about it or I'll imagine how it tastes, or maybe I'll get on TikTok like Crissle and I'll just, I could do that after this. I could do that after this and look at what y'all are saying about the gum gum they made. It's just, why bubblegum? Why couldn't it just taste like fruit? Why couldn't you have brought back the Sprite remix?

Speaker 2:
[107:09] Ooh, yeah. Bring back Sprite remix. A time. Oh God, that was good.

Speaker 1:
[107:13] A time. Too good, you know what? Maybe there was like a secret PTA. Bill, I was just like this sugary deadly beverage is too delicious. Because not only is it gonna kill our children, it's gonna kill us too. Cause I keep sneaking their damn Sprite remixes out.

Speaker 2:
[107:36] The whole house just.

Speaker 1:
[107:40] Babies, if you didn't get to experience the Sprite remix, I am so sorry. That was a fucking time.

Speaker 2:
[107:48] See if you can find you something on eBay.

Speaker 1:
[107:52] Don't do that.

Speaker 2:
[107:53] I mean, they'll do that. It's pop. It'll probably take 30 years to go bad. What is it even? You don't. Sugar and water.

Speaker 1:
[108:02] The kids are online buying like, candies from the 1920s. I mean, like, let's see what it tastes like. And they get rushed to the emergency room.

Speaker 2:
[108:10] That reminds me of Trixie Mattel buying an old-ass Easy-Bake Oven from like the 60s. Yes, and she baked the...

Speaker 1:
[108:19] Classic.

Speaker 2:
[108:20] She used the cake mix from the 60s.

Speaker 1:
[108:23] From the 60s.

Speaker 2:
[108:23] And then was like, oh, my stomach hurts.

Speaker 1:
[108:25] This is in case, right? Yeah, babe. You're eating 50-year-old cake.

Speaker 2:
[108:32] Don't eat that, bitch. Okay, I have a few this week. Let's just start with the trans shit. Dave Chappelle did an interview with, why? I think NPR maybe. Well, so he's talking now about how the Republican Party took all of his trans jokes and made it like a political thing, and made it like he was supporting the Republicans and their shit. And he went on Capitol Hill and he was taking pictures with people and then Lauren Boebert asked for a picture and he didn't want to say no. And he said, I didn't know the phrase, I respectfully decline, which you're fucking Dave Chappelle, you can just say I don't want to take a picture with you, you weird bitch, but whatever. So he took the picture and then she posted it and was like, this is just two people who understand that there are only two genders. And so he's like, I shouldn't even have to address all this because the Republicans took everything I said about trans people and made it weird. And it's like, first of all, the things you said about trans people were weird in and of themselves. They didn't have to stretch that far to turn it into Dave Chappelle is transphobic because you can't make those jokes and not be trans without it being punching down on trans people. You don't get to mock them in that way. And you like, this isn't a difficult concept to understand. So turning around now and being like, well, I just feel like I resent how the Republican Party took everything I did and weaponized it. Bitch, you gave them the knife. You mad that they used it to stab? You literally handed these niggas the bazooka and now you're like, I can't believe y'all shut up that school, bitch. You made it so easy for them. So that's one. And then here come Caitlyn Jenner, bitch ass. On the, she went on the Tommy Lauren Podcast talking about how she was a hypocrite for accepting the Glamour Woman of the Year Award. Remember when Glamour gave her that woman of the year? Yes. And which ties into Dave Chappelle who was like, how this bitch get woman of the year? Right. So it's like, anyway. A transphobic trans person is really a fucking mess, but for you to be transphobic trans and to have this massive of a platform and basically be willing to kick the ladder down for every other bitch, like you not the most visible person. Caitlyn Jenner is really a fucking wreck, but she was on this Tommy Lauren podcast talking about how, you know, of course she does not want to protect the LGBTQ community. Of course she doesn't. She's part of it, but protect them bitches? No, she wants to protect women because why are biological men in women's sports? And so eventually I was just like, wow, I'm really a hypocrite because I'm fighting this battle. But when I came out, I accepted the Glamour Woman of the Year Award. And, you know, so then she kind of contradicted herself. She was like, I'm still XY biologically. I mean, she said, I'm still XY, biologically I'm female, but genetically I'm still XY. There's nothing I can do about it and I'm fine with it, which is just like, I don't know that those words work in the way you think that they do. Like if you're trying to say that you have a pussy installed, like I would have just said it that way, instead of being like biologically I'm female, genetically I'm XY, like that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense, but girl.

Speaker 1:
[112:11] What are you talking about your chromosomes? Like, why does it have to be that deep?

Speaker 2:
[112:16] Because you insist on being the worst possible trans person. That's why. Because you, you know, and she even said when I came out in 2015, I only had good in my heart, you know. I thought, oh, trans people, this is such a marginalized group, and I've been feeling this way since I was a little kid. But unfortunately, the left took it, and they kind of ran with it and turned me into like this trans icon. So she's literally saying the same thing as Dave Chappelle, but about the other party. Like, I came out, and then here come all these people talking about, I deserve to be respected and telling people to use my pronouns, and the fucking libtards just turned it into some social justice. Like, bitch, because it's not just about you, you dizzy, dizzy bitch. You are not the only trans person. Like, you had an opportunity to advocate for the larger community that does not have your platform, that does not have your resources or your visibility or the protection that your whiteness affords you. They don't have your safety. All of this shit. You can still, Caitlyn Jenner, walk into the White House and shake Trump's hand, and nobody is talking about what a terrible, disgusting, disgraceful person you are. Like, that is how much... Not to your face? Right, that. But that is how much your previous identity and all of the things that you have because of what you were able to accomplish. That is how much that protects you. And yet you thought, hmm, the rest of y'all, who gives a shit? Being like, well, I came out and then the left just took my issue and ran with it. Yeah. Yeah, girl. Because we thought maybe you coming out as trans meant you would say or do something to protect the other trans people who don't have what you have. But that would require you to be a good person who cares about somebody other than yourself or your money. And I think at this point, we all know that you're not that. You can go fuck yourself. Last but not least, Megan Good. Now, I really shouldn't expect much from a bitch who married Jonathan Majors, and I know that. But she was on the Picture This Podcast with that girl, Jonica, from... Yes, yes. She hosts that, it's a Issa Rae produced show, yes. So she talked about, Megan Good went on this show and talked about how Jonica asked her, what's something you thought you couldn't live without, but actually you could? She was like, oh, my cat. I had to get rid of my little cat. His name is Bam Bam. So she goes on to talk about how Jonathan Majors had two dogs. So he's bringing his two dogs into the relationship with her cat. Then they got a third dog together. Apparently, this is where Bam Bam was like, bitch, you've crossed the line. Like, it's one thing to bring that in here. It's another thing to bring them two filthy beasts in here. To add a third insult to injury. So Bam Bam started pissing in the bed, angry. Instead of figuring out a way for all of the animals to coexist, maybe working with Bam Bam or, you know, maybe even thinking about the reality of everything's changing, we're moving or these people are moving into our home, new animals are here, a man who smells like domestic abuse is in here, like maybe having some understanding and empathy for what your cat is going through. She simply gave the cat up, rehomed it to somebody else and was like, yeah, I thought I couldn't live without my kitty because, you know, he's my baby and I'm going to miss him and I really want him here and he's my own little kitty cat, you know, but we had a puppy and the other dogs and so I just couldn't do it. And so then Jonica's like, oh, so you chose the new puppy over Bam Bam. And Megan's like, no, I chose my man. Okay. Well, you didn't say Jonathan hated the cat. You didn't say Jonathan insisted the cat, you know, go to hell or whatever. But I also don't even really care about the details of that. I would rather be single for the rest of my life than give up, Lainey. And I mean that with my whole fucking heart and soul. I'm not giving up my daughter. We're going to have to figure it out. If I meet somebody who has animals, we're going to have to figure out a way for all of us to coexist, or we're going to have to maintain separate homes, or I'm going to have to be with somebody else. I'm not giving up my baby, especially without even trying to find a way to make all of this work. You that far up Jonathan Major's ass? He already had two dogs. You didn't think, damn, maybe we should give these three animals some time to figure out how to coexist with each other before we bring yet another dog into the situation. Where was the thought or care or consideration for your fucking cat? BamBam is pissing on the bed because you brought this man into the house. Ding, ding, ding. That's a sign. If Lainey started hissing and shitting all over the floor because I'm dating somebody and this person is now in the house, guess what? Guess what? I'm going to take that extremely seriously because Lainey is a fucking sweetheart. Lainey's never met anybody she didn't like, and I do mean anybody. She loves every breathing thing.

Speaker 1:
[118:04] Tell what she told you about Kat. Didn't the cat beat you up?

Speaker 2:
[118:10] Yes, but that was my brother's fault. My brother antagonized that cat. Then the cat took it out on me. He was like, whichever one of you getting your ass beat? I don't give a.

Speaker 1:
[118:24] BamBam said, I got something for you.

Speaker 2:
[118:27] She was like, the third dog is what really pushed BamBam over the edge. So why not give up the one dog you just got instead of the cat? Is it because Jonathan Majors wanted the dog? Jonathan Majors didn't want a cat? So you siding with the abuser in multiple ways? I'd rather slit my own wrists than give up Lainey because a nigga who is a horrible fucking person doesn't want my cat in the house no more. No, I'll be damned.

Speaker 1:
[118:54] You sound like me.

Speaker 2:
[118:54] No, I mean it. Over that nigga, over that nigga, that. Does he even work? Does he even work? Does he even have a job? The idea that I would give up my baby that I gave birth to. That I would abandon the child that I birthed because she don't like a nigga. I'll get rid of the nigga and his dogs before I get rid of Lainey. Are you fucking kidding? You didn't deserve that cat.

Speaker 1:
[119:30] When I was little and before I had my first pet, I think, maybe it was after, it doesn't matter. When I was a kid, I wanted a cat at some point. I had a dog, but my dad was like, we are not getting a cat. Specifically, I'll never forget this. My dad said, do you know what cat piss smells like?

Speaker 2:
[119:56] Not bad. And I was like, no, I've never had a cat. But he grew up with cats.

Speaker 1:
[120:06] They had cats and dogs and all kinds of stuff, but he was very firm about not having a cat because he was like, that's urine. It's like it's unlike anything.

Speaker 2:
[120:16] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[120:17] You'd be like, yeah, and I don't want any when you're me. So I was like, I guess we can have a cat.

Speaker 3:
[120:21] I'd rather.

Speaker 1:
[120:22] So Bam Bam going like, let me tell you, another dog.

Speaker 3:
[120:27] It's too much. It's honestly too much. The man was bad, the dogs are worse. Bringing in another dog is where I draw the goddamn line, Megan. And instead of paying attention to that, you said, well, let's just get, did you ever love the fucking cat? Did you give one shit about the cat? I would rather live in a different house from my spouse. I would literally rather have a completely separate residence than get rid of Lainey.

Speaker 1:
[120:57] God, if ever I'm able, that's what I want regardless.

Speaker 2:
[121:02] Like cat dog parakeet.

Speaker 1:
[121:04] You have yourself to help.

Speaker 3:
[121:05] I knew Megan Good was a bird, but you gave up your fuck. Girl, if Taylor Swift fans knew who you were, they would be irate.

Speaker 2:
[121:16] Oh, right.

Speaker 1:
[121:18] I was like, wait.

Speaker 3:
[121:19] If white people knew who Megan Good was, they would be tearing her ass up like they did Dochi. At least Dochi didn't rehome a fucking cat. You gave up.

Speaker 1:
[121:28] Dochi was kidding. I mean, halfway.

Speaker 3:
[121:31] Right.

Speaker 1:
[121:32] It was a good joke.

Speaker 3:
[121:33] Right. Not something as terrible. But you just, I, you know, Lord, please keep me from whatever bird brain ass beliefs would have me choosing a nigga and new dogs over my fucking dog. My baby, who I love with my whole heart, who I flew home. I was supposed to go from Atlanta to DC. I went from Atlanta back to New York for 18 hours, just so I, just so Lainey wouldn't have to spend four days in a row at the border. Just so I could pick her up for that one day and she could sleep at home. And then I dropped her ass off the very next morning so I could fly to DC. You, I can't imagine. You didn't deserve Bam Bam. Bam Bam, wherever you are, I hope you with some people who value you, who would never give you up so that a convicted domestic abuser and his dogs could move into the house with you. Like I hope you're with people who really cherish you. And will care for you for the rest of your days. And that's another thing. They don't even live as long as we do. They don't even live as long as we do. Like you don't even get that much time with them in the grand scheme of things. Why would I give up my baby? For a man?

Speaker 1:
[122:51] If I had to wish it would be that Link lives as long as me.

Speaker 3:
[122:54] Same.

Speaker 1:
[122:55] And I don't even want to talk about it much more.

Speaker 3:
[122:57] No.

Speaker 1:
[122:58] Because she also came out of my-

Speaker 3:
[122:59] Yeah. And I think about this all the time. Like if somebody asked me, you know, you press this button and a random person dies, but Lainey lives as long as you do, would you press it? And I really have to think about that. I think the answer is no. I think I would rather just deal with the grief of losing her than the guilt over killing a random innocent person. But if I could choose the person who dies, 100 percent I would do it. And I mean without thinking twice.

Speaker 1:
[123:27] If this isn't a horror movie, I'm absolutely pressing the button. Any person on the world, girl, y'all die every day. But if it's a horror movie, you know the get your gotchas that I press the button.

Speaker 3:
[123:39] And it's your mama or something, right?

Speaker 1:
[123:41] Right.

Speaker 3:
[123:41] Or it's you. So it's like both of y'all die. Right.

Speaker 1:
[123:44] Then I fall to it. Right.

Speaker 2:
[123:46] That's exactly what it would be.

Speaker 3:
[123:48] But if you press this button, then something terrible will happen to whoever's in the White House right now. Yeah, OK. Well, all right. All right, Pete.

Speaker 1:
[123:57] How many times can I press it?

Speaker 3:
[124:04] Give up my daughter? You didn't deserve that cat in the first fucking place, girl. I'm really disgusted.

Speaker 1:
[124:11] I can't help but think that, again, my dad, both my parents, they were not closer affectionate with their pets, and they had many.

Speaker 3:
[124:20] Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:
[124:21] But they also call the dogs dog and the cat's puss. So, they kept away intruders and Vernon, and that was their plan.

Speaker 3:
[124:34] They had a purpose. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[124:37] So much so that they thought domesticating and loving on pets and wanting the dog to be indoors was American.

Speaker 3:
[124:42] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[124:43] They were like, girl, you're so Americanized because you want to name the dog and let it live in the house.

Speaker 3:
[124:48] And you know what? And that's fine. And that's fine. But this wasn't some, this wasn't a guard cat. His job wasn't to live outside and protect your property.

Speaker 1:
[124:57] You know, I'm talking about my mom and daddy when I'm in my 50s and 60s on my mother country.

Speaker 3:
[125:00] Exactly. That's a totally different thing. What Megan Goodhead was a domesticated cat who was supposed to be kept as a companion and a pet. And you gave it up for a man. And you clarified, no, it wasn't because of the dogs and we didn't want to, I chose the man. That man, yuck.

Speaker 1:
[125:22] There's a couple of people this week who have lied.

Speaker 3:
[125:27] I saw a TikTok of somebody with a Jamaican mama and they just got a cat and they brought the cat over to meet their mama. And the mama looking down and then she smiled and she said, me gran puss. So when you just said that, that they called a cat puss, how that made me think of that?

Speaker 2:
[125:49] I am speechless. There's so many things about that that just shot me in the face.

Speaker 3:
[125:56] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[125:58] Gran puss is insane.

Speaker 3:
[126:02] Our elders are the best.

Speaker 1:
[126:04] Insane. I have to tell my mother.

Speaker 3:
[126:06] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[126:07] In fact, I'm going to go look for this.

Speaker 3:
[126:09] Yeah, it'll probably come.

Speaker 1:
[126:10] Gran puss is so funny. And then you're saying it with that accent.

Speaker 3:
[126:16] You're welcome.

Speaker 1:
[126:18] So many.

Speaker 3:
[126:18] You're welcome. You're welcome. I'm really good at accents.

Speaker 1:
[126:23] So you sound like my cousin.

Speaker 3:
[126:24] Oh, that is it for me this week, Megan Good. I didn't think I could be more disappointed than you, bitch. But goddamn, girl. And I'm not even a cat person.

Speaker 1:
[126:32] Check out Picture This, hosted by one Johnica Bluth. Yeah. It's hilarious.

Speaker 3:
[126:38] Shout out, Johnica. Shout out, Issa. Megan, you know what you've done.

Speaker 1:
[126:44] There's a lot.

Speaker 3:
[126:44] You know what you've done.

Speaker 1:
[126:45] I had to repost the clip. She had Laurel on there. And he was talking about, I think she asked, like, if you could make a Mount Rushmore out of people from Chicago. He was like, Michelle Obama. He was like, I should maybe put Jesse Jackson. He was like putting, like, I think he even said Michael Jordan, even though he's not from Chicago.

Speaker 2:
[127:05] He met a lot of the Bilt.

Speaker 1:
[127:07] And Johnica was like, you ain't say nothing about Chief Keef, man.

Speaker 2:
[127:13] And you have to... And the look on Rell's face.

Speaker 1:
[127:19] He didn't even respond at first. He just looked at her like...

Speaker 3:
[127:22] Now, what do you think?

Speaker 1:
[127:23] Like, did you really just...

Speaker 2:
[127:24] And then Johnica went out.

Speaker 1:
[127:26] Johnica just goes, oh, blah.

Speaker 2:
[127:29] It was so... I tell you, I was squeaking.

Speaker 3:
[127:35] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[127:36] She's so funny. She's so, so funny.

Speaker 2:
[127:38] Please watch this show.

Speaker 3:
[127:39] Yeah, this is not against the show. This is against making good, because girl, just... Bambam, you're surely in a better place. You wanted to get away from that man and you did, so... Perhaps...

Speaker 1:
[127:54] No, Shay, Bambam might have just been like, whoo!

Speaker 3:
[127:57] That's it for me, guys. I tried to get them out.

Speaker 1:
[128:02] Ooh, I can stretch.

Speaker 3:
[128:06] Oh, man.

Speaker 1:
[128:07] Room as far as the eye can go.

Speaker 3:
[128:08] Yeah. All right. That is gonna wrap up this week's episode of The Read. Check us out on social media at This Is The Read Atlanta. We will see you soon for The Read live in Atlanta on Sunday, April 26th at The Eastern. Very, very excited to hang out with you guys.

Speaker 1:
[128:28] I will be geeked up looking for an eat.

Speaker 3:
[128:30] Oh, period.

Speaker 1:
[128:32] Joking. That was a joke.

Speaker 3:
[128:36] Thank you to the Bad Queers Pod for having me on your 300th episode to talk about gay things. One of the hosts said that they have bad queer takes that you do like your hot take at the end of the episode, and hers was that Harriet Tubman was a stud.

Speaker 1:
[129:03] I thought that was just the no. No.

Speaker 3:
[129:07] See? All right.

Speaker 1:
[129:09] So.

Speaker 3:
[129:10] All right. So this is okay.

Speaker 1:
[129:12] I mean, I don't see the problem with the bad state.

Speaker 3:
[129:16] Thank you so much to the Bad Queers for having me on the show. It was a delight. Go check that out at Bad Queers Pod.

Speaker 1:
[129:23] I'm going to.

Speaker 3:
[129:24] Online, crystalscouch.com for my advice show. I had so much fun answering y'all's questions live, chatting with y'all one-on-one. That was very fun. I think we're going to do that again for future episodes. So yes, at Crystal's Couch for more information on that. Any information, any news or announcements from you, Kid Fury, before we head out?

Speaker 1:
[129:48] Yes. I will be Photoshopping one of the classic Harriet Tubman pictures where she's in a Liberty shirt.

Speaker 3:
[129:59] Okay. All right. I'm cutting it off.

Speaker 1:
[130:02] So that we can immerse ourselves.

Speaker 3:
[130:04] I'm turning off the Zoom. I'm turning it off.

Speaker 2:
[130:07] So funny.

Speaker 3:
[130:11] I'm turning it off. Woo!

Speaker 1:
[130:14] I mean, because...

Speaker 2:
[130:16] And who else but Estelle was like, I'll do it. I'm...

Speaker 3:
[130:25] All right. No, because this is crazy. This is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[130:29] Oh, God, that is so funny.

Speaker 3:
[130:31] Of all the things.

Speaker 1:
[130:32] That was fantastic. I don't even remember what I had. Okay, yeah, Furious Thoughts podcast. New episode out now. Go to instagram.com/kidfury for all the links. Oh, I can't wait to see y'all at Atlanta. That was so funny. Because I'm about to Google it.

Speaker 3:
[130:50] No. See, I'm cutting off. I'm cutting. I'm ending.

Speaker 1:
[130:53] A lesbian.

Speaker 3:
[130:54] I'm ending. Gay. Gay. Shayna, look what you've done. Look what you've done. Are you proud of yourself?

Speaker 1:
[131:07] Lest be.

Speaker 3:
[131:10] Take care of yourselves. Y'all, we will see you next week.

Speaker 2:
[131:14] A Railroad, too.

Speaker 1:
[131:32] Okay, bye!