title From Heaven to Hell: Trump vs. Pope Leo

description Michael and Mélissa discuss online reports that they are married, hobo-sexuals, Trump publicly attacking Pope Leo, Trump's post of an image depicting himself as Jesus that he claims is a doctor, Melania Trump's speech about Epstein, and a deep dive into Viktor Orbán's historic loss in the Hungarian elections.
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pubDate Thu, 16 Apr 2026 07:01:00 GMT

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Speaker 1:
[00:06] Welcome to Brief Recess. I'm Mélissa's husband, Michael Foote.

Speaker 2:
[00:09] I'm his estranged wife, Mélissa Malebranche Foote.

Speaker 1:
[00:12] Today on the show, we're going to talk about Fox News reporting that Mélissa and I are married. We're going to talk about hobosexuals. We're going to talk about Trump's beef with the Pope, Melania's speech on Epstein, Blue Wave midterms hopefully on the horizon, Viktor Orbán loses election in Hungary, and we're going to answer all your questions from the DM, so stick around. I thought I just lost my laptop. I just had like a where to go.

Speaker 2:
[00:42] I knew where it was. You should have just asked me. I would have just told you. Oh no.

Speaker 1:
[00:46] That's what renter's insurance is good for though, because it covers laptops and stuff.

Speaker 2:
[00:51] If you lose your laptop someplace else?

Speaker 1:
[00:54] You have to pay like the, at least for my policy, I think I have to pay like a $500 deductible and they'll replace it. But I think I had to call them and tell them that I wanted electronics covered, and they did it. Because I do lose shit a lot.

Speaker 2:
[01:08] You lose important things?

Speaker 1:
[01:10] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[01:11] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[01:11] Yeah. You said, okay, so serious. Like, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[01:15] No, no, no. I mean, I, I'm trying to think, I hate losing things.

Speaker 1:
[01:20] I mean, I don't get, I don't derive joy from it.

Speaker 2:
[01:22] No, no, no. I know. But like, I misplace things a lot. I don't actually lose them, if that makes sense. I end up finding it. And sometimes I'll buy another thing and then I'll find it and then just return to the other thing.

Speaker 1:
[01:36] Oh, you do? Okay. See, I would never, I don't have that kind of follow through. Alyssa and I are the same like that.

Speaker 2:
[01:42] We're like, messy.

Speaker 1:
[01:45] We'll just have like four of the same thing.

Speaker 2:
[01:47] Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 1:
[01:48] We keep buying them.

Speaker 2:
[01:49] But I, you know, okay, so you know what would happen to me all the time? I hate traveling without headphones.

Speaker 1:
[02:00] Mélissa Malebranche, Mélissa, no middle name, Malebranche. I got on, so I had to go to DC, which is my least favorite place on earth.

Speaker 2:
[02:08] Is it really?

Speaker 1:
[02:09] Yes. And I texted CJ and I said, next time someone tries to book me in DC, please say no.

Speaker 2:
[02:16] I'm going to be in DC in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1:
[02:17] Okay. Thoughts and prayers. Because when I was there, so I get on the Amtrak, which is already, I'm already, You're upset. I'm already upset. And this was after that guy recognized me.

Speaker 2:
[02:29] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[02:30] My wife loves you and took a photo of me looking disheveled. So I get on the Amtrak.

Speaker 2:
[02:35] I love that actually.

Speaker 1:
[02:35] And after years of these headphones working, no problems, beautiful, incredible sound, noise canceling, just what you need when you're on Amtrak. Even if you're in the choir car, there's always some guy.

Speaker 2:
[02:48] Well, so I just want to block everybody out. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[02:53] And I needed to lock in on a couple of documents. These headphones sent me a Do Not Recessitate Notice, DNR on my headphones, gone after years. And it was like a four hour train ride. And I know that's such a first world problem, but it really was awful.

Speaker 2:
[03:14] CJ and I were talking about this earlier, about like things that happen and like, it's like, oh, and then you feel bad. This is the thing that you're upset about. And I'm like, but this is your life.

Speaker 1:
[03:24] Yeah, you know what? It is my life. And I'm never going back to DC.

Speaker 2:
[03:28] But it's not like you don't care about things that are happening to other people, but you're allowed to be annoyed about that.

Speaker 1:
[03:34] And I was like going to lock in, put on white noise and work on someone's asylum application. Like it was actually to help someone else. So like I did really need those headphones in that moment. So I did buy a $10 pair to just keep in my bag at all times.

Speaker 2:
[03:53] Here's what happens to me though. I do that.

Speaker 1:
[03:55] And then you lose those.

Speaker 2:
[03:56] And I leave them somewhere. So then what ends up happening is the first part of my commute, I would get off and there was an Apple store. So I would go into the Apple store and I would buy new corded headphones, right? Because I like left my AirPods at home.

Speaker 1:
[04:12] And you also need to be able to talk to me on the phone. Nonstop while we're walking in.

Speaker 2:
[04:17] Yes, correct. And so what ends up happening is that I have this collection, it looks like a nest of like all these headphones because I've bought them repeatedly.

Speaker 1:
[04:30] Tangled.

Speaker 2:
[04:30] They're all just a tangled nest. Just a nest of them.

Speaker 1:
[04:35] Yeah. It's like when they opened the wall in our house when I was a kid and there was like a nest of mice in there. Eww. It's like that. This is sidebar. Let's get into a sidebar of just a little personal story. What's going on in our lives? What's happening with you, me?

Speaker 2:
[04:52] What's happening with you?

Speaker 1:
[04:52] Me and you.

Speaker 2:
[04:53] You and I.

Speaker 1:
[04:54] Your nails look nice. I got my toes done. My friend picked out. So I have a friend. She is so not. I love her so much. But Jesus Christ, sometimes the choices she makes stylistically, I'm like, girl.

Speaker 2:
[05:11] For herself or for you?

Speaker 1:
[05:12] For herself.

Speaker 2:
[05:13] OK.

Speaker 1:
[05:13] So we're getting our nails done and she's picking and I'm like, oh, let's pick a color. She picks neutral.

Speaker 2:
[05:20] For the toes?

Speaker 1:
[05:21] Tote.

Speaker 2:
[05:21] Neutral toes are the worst.

Speaker 1:
[05:22] Tote. Light green. I'm like, what?

Speaker 2:
[05:26] Light green?

Speaker 1:
[05:26] No, I'm asking her.

Speaker 2:
[05:27] OK.

Speaker 1:
[05:28] I'm like, pick a different one.

Speaker 2:
[05:29] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[05:30] Next one. Light brown.

Speaker 2:
[05:33] But is that the next one?

Speaker 3:
[05:35] The next one.

Speaker 1:
[05:35] Latte.

Speaker 3:
[05:39] Girl, what are you doing?

Speaker 2:
[05:40] But is that what she likes?

Speaker 1:
[05:42] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[05:43] OK. Well, that's what she likes.

Speaker 1:
[05:44] It's very like pottery teacher coded. Like it's very shops at Chico's coded.

Speaker 3:
[05:50] Dula. Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[05:51] It's very-

Speaker 2:
[05:53] Birth Dula or Death Dula?

Speaker 1:
[05:54] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[05:55] Which one?

Speaker 1:
[05:56] You know what? I would say birth.

Speaker 2:
[05:58] OK.

Speaker 1:
[05:58] Yeah, because there is a difference.

Speaker 2:
[06:00] No, of course, I actually thought about being a Death Dula.

Speaker 3:
[06:03] Yeah. I would love for you to kill me.

Speaker 1:
[06:06] My second.

Speaker 2:
[06:08] It might happen one day. You're so annoying.

Speaker 1:
[06:11] Not me thinking Death Dula is just shoot people. No, no, no.

Speaker 2:
[06:14] I was actually talking to my sister-in-law about this over the weekend.

Speaker 1:
[06:16] And she was like, well, someone kill me. And you were like, actually, I've been studying.

Speaker 2:
[06:21] And she was like, oh, you know, she's like, you probably would like that. And then my mom, my mom, my mom was there and she was like, oh, oh, oh, she was like, what is that? And I was like, you sort of help people transition over. And then you, you also help their families. And my mom was like, it was just straight face emoji Maggily.

Speaker 1:
[06:45] I feel like it's really hard to wrap your head around getting into that. But once you're like in that space, I bet it's probably pretty, you get used to it.

Speaker 2:
[06:56] I feel like it would be very rewarding. I think that, you know, the other thing I think and this is it's a short relationship. Do you know what I mean? Like you do, you help the people.

Speaker 1:
[07:08] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[07:08] And then you're, you're done. Right. As opposed to like, I think regular jobs, you got to see those people all the fucking time.

Speaker 1:
[07:17] And I don't want to.

Speaker 2:
[07:18] Sometimes. Especially the one person that you, there's always like the one person that you hate.

Speaker 1:
[07:23] Becky from Finance. Yeah. It's like, Karen from HR. We don't want to see you. Go back to your office.

Speaker 2:
[07:33] You know the person that I hate the most.

Speaker 1:
[07:34] Oh, of course I do. I know.

Speaker 2:
[07:37] I hate that person so much.

Speaker 1:
[07:39] We can't talk about him. It's CJ. He's in the studio right now. Wait, Fox News is reporting that you and I are married.

Speaker 4:
[07:46] Yes. Did you see that?

Speaker 1:
[07:48] Did you see that?

Speaker 4:
[07:50] Oh my God.

Speaker 2:
[07:51] So I sent it to a mutual friend. I was just like, look at this. And she was like, what?

Speaker 1:
[07:56] Speaking of HR, Exactly Right HR called me and said, you can't have a relationship with your co-host.

Speaker 2:
[08:02] Well, we're, and it's so-

Speaker 1:
[08:05] I Heart Radio HR called me.

Speaker 2:
[08:07] It's so weird though. Like, I think I-

Speaker 1:
[08:11] I need to clear the record. They did not call me.

Speaker 2:
[08:13] Oh, they didn't?

Speaker 1:
[08:14] No, HR and Exactly Right and I Heart, I think are both gay men that I've slept with. They know we're not married. There's no way that they think.

Speaker 2:
[08:21] You're such a messy, messy bitch.

Speaker 1:
[08:23] So Fox News picked up, I think one of my videos, which bots often pick them up and misreport what the information is.

Speaker 2:
[08:31] Michael Foote and his wife.

Speaker 3:
[08:38] Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1:
[08:41] My parents are going to be thrilled. They're going to be like, finally. We knew it was a phase.

Speaker 2:
[08:48] I need to bring in home a black wife.

Speaker 1:
[08:53] Your face.

Speaker 2:
[08:53] Yeah. Who's also like a good 15 years older than he is.

Speaker 1:
[08:58] Intergenerational, intergenerational, trans-racial marriage.

Speaker 3:
[09:04] No kids loves to thrift, loves to thrift, has a cat.

Speaker 1:
[09:08] They'll be thrilled. So my dad's like value systems on who comes into the family is based off like what services you can provide. So like Brad's an architect. Okay. He's like great free architect. For like you.

Speaker 2:
[09:23] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[09:24] So if you're going to be my, I guess, work wife.

Speaker 2:
[09:26] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[09:27] You've got to think about like what value you can add to Kevin's.

Speaker 2:
[09:31] What is what is Kevin like?

Speaker 3:
[09:34] Um, I can cook.

Speaker 2:
[09:36] I'm a really good cook.

Speaker 1:
[09:37] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[09:38] Like food.

Speaker 1:
[09:38] Yes. He loves food.

Speaker 2:
[09:39] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[09:40] I think that's great. I think you just figured it out.

Speaker 2:
[09:42] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[09:43] I think you would love that. He loves good conversation and a stiff drink.

Speaker 2:
[09:47] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[09:47] So I think I mean, you already got your podcasters. So that's the first the conversation you got down.

Speaker 2:
[09:52] Sure.

Speaker 1:
[09:53] And I've seen strangers. I've seen you drink. You've met my dad.

Speaker 2:
[09:57] I have met your dad.

Speaker 1:
[09:58] Yeah. We were married. You met him at the wedding.

Speaker 2:
[10:05] He gave me Michael's hand in marriage.

Speaker 4:
[10:06] It was lovely.

Speaker 2:
[10:09] Oh my God, Brad, that's what confused Madeline. That's why she said that you weren't coming. She was like, I thought he was supposed to marry Aunt Mélissa.

Speaker 1:
[10:17] Yeah. Auntie, Auntie Mélissa.

Speaker 4:
[10:18] That's Emisa. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[10:20] This does feel like something that would happen in an AI fruit video. Is that true?

Speaker 2:
[10:25] I'm trying so hard to like stop that shit because it's I've now there are shoes. It's so I saw the croc, the croc.

Speaker 4:
[10:37] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[10:38] So this week, I've been like every time it pops up, I go past it really fast. It's too I don't want it. I need to banish it. I need to banish it.

Speaker 4:
[10:49] I will not die in the name of Jesus. I will not die.

Speaker 1:
[10:57] Mélissa, every time she sees the video of the plane in a thunderstorm in over Africa.

Speaker 2:
[11:02] It was I think the I believe that they were going to Nigeria.

Speaker 1:
[11:07] I think where was Nigeria.

Speaker 2:
[11:08] But I saw it on the Haitian interwebs because we were like, that's us too. So they showed the difference between, it was like a flight going to Ireland that got bumpy, and people were just basically very quietly praying.

Speaker 1:
[11:25] The Irish Catholics.

Speaker 4:
[11:26] Right.

Speaker 2:
[11:28] But the plane that was going to Nigeria, people were like, they were praying out loud, and they were asking God to save them.

Speaker 4:
[11:38] My favorite one is, in the name of Jesus, I will not die, I will survive.

Speaker 1:
[11:45] Mélissa, we say that to each other all the time.

Speaker 2:
[11:48] I just think, I think it should be everyone's mantra.

Speaker 1:
[11:51] I do, I think it is like, you know what, I will not die.

Speaker 3:
[11:54] In the name of whoever, right?

Speaker 2:
[11:56] But I'm not going to die today.

Speaker 4:
[11:58] Today is not the day.

Speaker 1:
[11:59] It's an honestly, we increasingly in America need to say that more and more because we never know what's going to happen.

Speaker 2:
[12:05] It's never good.

Speaker 1:
[12:10] Let's get into your algorithm is showing, this is all the weird, crazy things happening on the Internet right now.

Speaker 2:
[12:14] It's just getting worse.

Speaker 1:
[12:15] It's Monday morning.

Speaker 2:
[12:16] Yeah. It's not Monday morning.

Speaker 1:
[12:18] Okay. Well, see, I'm already lost in the space kind of continuum. Not CJ laughing, he knew how late I was to the studio today.

Speaker 4:
[12:27] It is absolutely.

Speaker 2:
[12:28] We never record on a morning.

Speaker 1:
[12:33] I did see a thing on my algorithm about why gay people are late. I think it's like a theory. I don't think there's like an actual science or doctor behind it.

Speaker 2:
[12:42] Give me this.

Speaker 1:
[12:43] The Internet theory, which I think is just, I think it's just some gay person with Wi-Fi.

Speaker 2:
[12:48] I was going to say, it's probably like one guy. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1:
[12:50] One gay person with Wi-Fi in Brooklyn.

Speaker 2:
[12:51] But what's the notion?

Speaker 1:
[12:53] Gay people have always had to operate on like a shortened timeline with their life because of disease, persecution, death, AIDS crises. So gay people like take on more responsibility and try and do more things.

Speaker 2:
[13:11] In less time.

Speaker 1:
[13:12] No, assuming that they're not going to have a hundred years to get everything done. So that is like the theory. I don't know if that's been proven because for me, I'm like, I have so many ex-boyfriends who are lazy pieces of shit who did nothing. So I'm like, I don't know how true that is for to say for an entire population. Just deadbeat assholes lining the gutters.

Speaker 2:
[13:36] Do you know what a hobosexual is?

Speaker 1:
[13:38] Excuse me? No. This is like, you're going to surprise me with this and then next week we're going to have to have the hobosexual specialist on the show.

Speaker 2:
[13:50] So a hobosexual is, it's usually a man. It's usually a man who is in a relationship with a woman and the guy is a loser. And basically he's hanging on to you, the woman, because he's got nowhere else to go. He's a hobo, right? So he's a hobosexual.

Speaker 1:
[14:14] I can feel the comments on this video.

Speaker 2:
[14:19] I mean, I didn't make it up. I heard it somewhere and I thought it was really funny.

Speaker 1:
[14:23] I've never heard of this before.

Speaker 2:
[14:25] I think, you know, I mean, I think that it's something that I've heard on like, in, you know, like social media.

Speaker 1:
[14:33] You see it on a real.

Speaker 2:
[14:34] Right. No, social media that's geared towards women. Right. So if that's not what you're looking at.

Speaker 1:
[14:40] So it's like a Klingon. It's a guy who's like with you for your money and you're taking care of him. He's not working.

Speaker 2:
[14:44] He's not working. There was this other thing that I had seen once that said, somewhere this morning, there is a woman being driven to work by a man in her car when he goes back to her house to not do shit.

Speaker 1:
[15:03] I love the driving me to work though. I would love a little ride to work. That's sounds kind of nice actually. Not do anything. Is he going to clean up, contribute a little bit to the home?

Speaker 2:
[15:13] He's a hobosexual. He drops you off, he goes home, probably drinks, probably smokes weed, and watches. What's the sports show that's on all the time?

Speaker 1:
[15:28] Heated Rivalry? I know that's the only sports show I know.

Speaker 3:
[15:31] It's like a sports center.

Speaker 2:
[15:35] Sports center.

Speaker 3:
[15:36] The entire crew just wrote it.

Speaker 4:
[15:38] It's like a sports center.

Speaker 2:
[15:40] Sports center is on a loop and the same shit over and over. It's like every hour and it just starts over again.

Speaker 1:
[15:48] A new sport.

Speaker 3:
[15:49] No.

Speaker 2:
[15:50] Oh, the same shit? It's like the same 12 news items and it keeps on going.

Speaker 1:
[15:56] No.

Speaker 2:
[15:57] I swear to you.

Speaker 1:
[15:57] That is like, okay, so when I get too high, I will watch the same thing over and over again.

Speaker 2:
[16:03] Well, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[16:05] I think that might be what's happening.

Speaker 2:
[16:06] That's what's happening.

Speaker 1:
[16:07] I was a guest on a podcast. It was an advice podcast and someone called it and their husband was home like Monday for like 10 days at a time and then would travel for work for just in 10.

Speaker 2:
[16:20] Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[16:22] But and he was doing nothing for the 10 days and they were asking like, what do we do? What do I do with this man? Who's just like hanging out for 10 days straight.

Speaker 2:
[16:31] He did nothing?

Speaker 1:
[16:32] So and then that was like the thing was she was kind of like, well, he does cook and he does take the kids to school. I was like, oh, bitch.

Speaker 3:
[16:40] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[16:41] It might be.

Speaker 2:
[16:42] No, it's a you problem.

Speaker 1:
[16:43] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[16:44] The call is coming from inside the house.

Speaker 2:
[16:45] Yeah. Because when you said that she was saying that her husband did nothing, I thought he was sitting in his underwear watching Sports Center. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[16:53] We have to talk about what's happening online right now. Trump has decided the one person that his base likes more, he's going to take them on and that person is the Pope.

Speaker 2:
[17:03] I know.

Speaker 1:
[17:03] No one in his base love Jesus, the Pope and then him and he was like, I'm going to go for one and two.

Speaker 2:
[17:10] The best part though is this is not a Pope like any other Pope. This Pope is from Chicago.

Speaker 1:
[17:15] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[17:17] This is the other thing I wanted to tell you.

Speaker 1:
[17:18] The south side of Chicago.

Speaker 2:
[17:21] You know how I always say nothing can happen to me because I have the blood of revolutionaries running through my veins because I'm Haitian? Yeah. The Pope, Pope Leo is very distantly Haitian.

Speaker 1:
[17:31] Really?

Speaker 2:
[17:32] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[17:32] Wow. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2:
[17:34] He is.

Speaker 3:
[17:34] Right.

Speaker 1:
[17:35] Don't fuck with Asian people.

Speaker 3:
[17:36] It's like world number one.

Speaker 2:
[17:40] I was looking to see what percentage of Americans are Catholic is about 20 percent.

Speaker 3:
[17:47] That's a lot.

Speaker 2:
[17:48] The majority of those Catholics are white.

Speaker 1:
[17:51] Catholics, many Christians really GNF about the Pope. It's not just Catholics.

Speaker 2:
[18:02] No, a lot of people love the Pope.

Speaker 1:
[18:03] Pretty much all Christians are like, he's our guy.

Speaker 2:
[18:05] He's the guy.

Speaker 1:
[18:06] Yeah. I'm sure there's going to be one weird sect of Christianity is going to be in the comments being like, actually, Jebediah tells me that we hate the Pope and it'll be someone. Yeah. Sorry, Jebediah. Sorry. Ezekiel. Shout out to the distant book of Jebediah. But yeah, so here's the tea. This is a breakdown of what happened. So Trump and the Pope started beefing on the Internet. Trump did a photo of him as Jesus.

Speaker 2:
[18:38] Okay. So if it's the one that I think that you're talking about, where he's, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[18:42] He's a deity.

Speaker 2:
[18:43] Correct. And he's over somebody laying hands on them in the background. So I didn't realize this. So originally in the background, it's like three military people, like soldiers with their gear on. And then he changed it. And so there are two soldiers, and the one thing in the middle is like a horned demon. So here's the thing. Do you hear what I'm saying? Don't I sound insane?

Speaker 1:
[19:17] But this is why I do disassociate sometimes, and I feel like I have to talk to my doctor because I, oh yeah.

Speaker 4:
[19:22] Right.

Speaker 1:
[19:24] He edited it. And added a demon?

Speaker 2:
[19:28] Correct. And then also there's like light coming from his hands. But here's the thing.

Speaker 1:
[19:33] This is why I think over a certain age, you should take a test before you should have access to the Internet. Because like a lot of this is like when they take the license away from grandma. Yeah. It should be like that. Because they're the ones who are clicking the phishing bot.

Speaker 2:
[19:49] I know.

Speaker 1:
[19:49] But this is in charge of a lot. But like got a lot of responsibility.

Speaker 2:
[19:54] No, I know.

Speaker 1:
[19:55] Famously important job.

Speaker 2:
[19:56] Yeah. He's president of the United States of America.

Speaker 3:
[20:00] He's putting demons in his AI arm.

Speaker 2:
[20:03] So he took it down.

Speaker 1:
[20:05] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[20:05] He was interviewed.

Speaker 1:
[20:06] Well, because his base was calling him the Antichrist.

Speaker 2:
[20:09] Of course. But my favorite thing about this though, is that he was asked, he was like, oh yeah, I put it up and I took it down. Actually, I really thought that it was a photo of me depicting me as a doctor or a healer because we're working with the Red Cross.

Speaker 3:
[20:26] I did first it and I thought it was me as a doctor.

Speaker 2:
[20:29] Now, here's the thing. Let's say I'm willing to, that's the kind, they drive me insane. Let's say I wanted to believe that he thought that it was a photo of him healing people, like a doctor.

Speaker 4:
[20:44] You're not a doctor though.

Speaker 2:
[20:46] Like you're not a doctor.

Speaker 1:
[20:48] He's got a malpractice lawsuit now for trying to heal people.

Speaker 2:
[20:53] Oh, it's me as a doctor. What? What do you mean?

Speaker 1:
[20:57] That's not your job, honey.

Speaker 4:
[20:58] I don't do that.

Speaker 1:
[20:59] I don't think so, girl. You're not supposed to be doing that. You're not supposed to be.

Speaker 3:
[21:02] You're not a doctor, bitch.

Speaker 4:
[21:03] Like what?

Speaker 1:
[21:06] But for me, what was exciting, I know he is delulu. This is 25th Amendment. But for me, what was so exciting was how quickly the bass turned on him. They turned on him so fast. His own like MAGA, red hat owning. I know people were like, oh, bitch, not this. This is the one thing I want. They were fine with the pedophilia. They were fine with the Epstein files.

Speaker 2:
[21:31] They were like, well, we're okay with you getting rich off of this.

Speaker 3:
[21:35] Sure. We love it.

Speaker 2:
[21:36] We love it.

Speaker 1:
[21:37] A quick war. We'll send our kids.

Speaker 3:
[21:39] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[21:40] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[21:40] However, how the fuck ever.

Speaker 1:
[21:42] Now you're beefing with the Pope. And that we cannot stand for.

Speaker 3:
[21:46] It will not stand.

Speaker 1:
[21:47] MAGA cannot stand.

Speaker 2:
[21:48] It will not stand.

Speaker 3:
[21:49] It will not stand.

Speaker 1:
[21:49] They will not sit. And this is, they will not die.

Speaker 4:
[21:54] In the name of Jesus. Not you, Trump.

Speaker 2:
[21:59] The real Jesus.

Speaker 3:
[22:00] Stop our tears.

Speaker 2:
[22:01] Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1:
[22:03] The real Jesus. Well, the real Jesus please stand up and let us know.

Speaker 3:
[22:10] And why would you add a demon if you're the Red Cross?

Speaker 1:
[22:12] Yeah. Why is there a demon if you're the Red Cross?

Speaker 2:
[22:15] CJ, don't ask questions. Look at CJ asking logical questions. What's happening?

Speaker 1:
[22:20] Who's CJ?

Speaker 2:
[22:22] Again, like I was talking about this the other day, like the people who worship him, because they do. There are people who really love this man, even if they're not saying it out loud.

Speaker 1:
[22:33] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[22:34] But MAGA to MAGA, are you just like, do you think he's okay? What's going on?

Speaker 1:
[22:38] Well, there's some real Tom and Jerry shit going on in the White House lately because Melania, she burst out of, threw a wall like the Kool-Aid man and decided, Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And to give a statement about the Epstein files, to go on the record. It truly is. Do you know that meme where it's like, people are talking, it's like, hello, and it's Melania's voice. She just like was on, she just jumped in, interjected for absolutely no reason. No one was talking about Epstein.

Speaker 2:
[23:08] Nobody asked you.

Speaker 1:
[23:10] No one was talking specifically about her and Epstein. The whole world was talking about the war in Iran.

Speaker 2:
[23:16] So now what she's done is, she's made it so that more people are like, well, let me Google, let me see.

Speaker 1:
[23:23] Was she going to? Yeah. I'm not sure. Let's look into it. So then they asked Trump, they were like, did you know she was doing this? And he was like, what? What? And so then her husband is best friends with Trump. So like they're a four-

Speaker 2:
[23:39] The husband has a best friend?

Speaker 1:
[23:40] Custom, two couples, they're friends. The husband told Trump, Deport my ex-wife, this woman. Had her deported to Eastern Europe. She then was threatening. We found all this out after Melania made this random statement, being like, I don't know anything about Epstein. The friend was like, I'm going to tell everyone the tea about Melania. She did that after Melania's statement. We then found out why Melania made that statement. She was trying to preempt it.

Speaker 2:
[24:09] She knew it was going to come out.

Speaker 1:
[24:10] Yeah. The whole vibe of her friend saying that was very much like, pay me to shut up. We still haven't heard what that friend was going to say.

Speaker 2:
[24:20] I don't know. I think we've just, no one is driving the bus.

Speaker 1:
[24:28] Yeah, no.

Speaker 2:
[24:28] No one is driving the bus. The bus has got no brakes.

Speaker 1:
[24:31] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[24:32] We're just careening. We're just going to careen into a cavern. Yes, exactly. What is happening to us? And nothing is going well.

Speaker 1:
[24:43] Nothing is going well.

Speaker 2:
[24:44] JD Vance.

Speaker 1:
[24:45] I don't know what psychologically is wrong with me where I have never been more energized in my life. What happened? I truly am like on the therapist sofa. Like what happened to me in my childhood where I'm thriving in this chaotic environment?

Speaker 2:
[25:01] I mean, I think you're very busy because of what's the state of the United States.

Speaker 1:
[25:08] Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[25:09] And you are very invested in the work that you do.

Speaker 1:
[25:13] Every day I'm like, oh, a new diva video. I can easily make one right off of this Trump tweet.

Speaker 2:
[25:17] Exactly. And you know, so it's not only are you just generally busy with your regular work, but it's also providing you with content, right? Like, do you know what I mean? It's all content.

Speaker 1:
[25:28] Fodder for the tell-all.

Speaker 2:
[25:29] Exactly. And I think that's a part of the reason why you're energized because you are busy and you are trying really hard to do good things for people. And you know, and you don't want to fuck it up, right?

Speaker 1:
[25:41] So yeah, I don't want to fuck it up. I also think that like court's been crazy.

Speaker 2:
[25:45] Right.

Speaker 1:
[25:46] But I'm also seeing winds everywhere. Like there are a lot of, I think the crazier it gets, it's usually crazy for this administration because they've like kicked a hornet's nest or tried to do something or whatever. And there are more and more people that I'm seeing in the federal courts and in the immigration system who are clapping back or doing something in response to the, right? It's a house of cards that we're sort of dealing with right now. And so as that's sort of crumbling, more and more people are dogpiling. And so I do see these like little moments, these windows in what often feels like a fascist totalitarian institution when I have to go to court and work on certain cases. But then I see these little glimpses. I'm like, oh, wow, it's been dark for so long. And someone just opened like the mouse hole.

Speaker 2:
[26:49] Yeah, just a glimmer of light. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[26:51] Okay, cool. I can kind of see, but not everyone gets those moments to see that. So I have all this energy and then everyone around me is like collapsing in the street.

Speaker 2:
[26:59] Because it's just, it's so appalling. And you just feel like it's just gonna get worse.

Speaker 1:
[27:06] It is.

Speaker 2:
[27:07] And I think it will get worse before it gets better. He's not done.

Speaker 1:
[27:10] Something is going to happen at the midterms.

Speaker 2:
[27:13] What?

Speaker 1:
[27:14] There will be ice presence at the midterm elections.

Speaker 2:
[27:16] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[27:17] At the booths. Absolutely. That is my prediction.

Speaker 2:
[27:19] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[27:20] Absolutely. He sent ice agents to airports within hours. They were there overnight. There was no congressional approval there. They had the funding and he decided and there they were. So the notion that he's not going to do that in Georgia, that he's not going to do that in a key battleground state. Is it's, who are you fooling? You're in denial if you don't think that's going to happen. Speaking to you congresspeople, right? So I think that we're going to see something happen. Will it affect the outcome? I don't know. But there will be some form of ice voter intimidation at the polls for sure. And I think people think, oh, well, undocumented people shouldn't be voting. They're not supposed to be voting. Yes, that's absolutely true.

Speaker 2:
[28:10] That is true.

Speaker 1:
[28:11] However, there are a lot of documented people who can vote who are afraid of ice.

Speaker 2:
[28:16] Yes, they are.

Speaker 1:
[28:17] Actually, I would say like most of them.

Speaker 3:
[28:18] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[28:19] Right.

Speaker 2:
[28:19] Black and brown people, because I think people ice grabs and asks questions later.

Speaker 3:
[28:26] Oh, yes.

Speaker 1:
[28:26] And literally, I would say a third of my clients right now are people who have immigration status and I'm trying to get them out of removal proceedings. Right. Because they were picked up for being brown. They went. Yeah, absolutely. Right. So we know that this organization, ICE, has no problem picking people up, shooting white people in the face. Like so the notion that he's not going to use them is just as his sort of personal, his personal pit, like his secret police or absolutely. Yeah, literally.

Speaker 4:
[28:59] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[28:59] Yeah. So we do have the luxury of time as we march towards the midterm elections. So I want us all to be pressuring our representatives to do something, to stand up, to stand up.

Speaker 4:
[29:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:13] About voter suppression. It is so important.

Speaker 2:
[29:17] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:17] We're watching every single, like so many there is, there's such a blue wave right now in America. All these special elections are turning around.

Speaker 2:
[29:24] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[29:24] Are you watching some of it? It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2:
[29:27] It is. It is encouraging. And like you said, I have to remember that these are the little glimmers of light, right? That people are and also people who were Trump supporters, yes, who are now who are saying I voted for him three times.

Speaker 1:
[29:42] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[29:42] And you know what?

Speaker 2:
[29:44] I am disappointed. He has disappointed me. And I think that, you know, all the things that he said that he was going to do, right? He was going to lower grocery prices, more expensive than ever. He wasn't going to go to war. Here we are. He was going to deal with the Epstein stuff.

Speaker 1:
[30:05] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[30:05] So all the things that he said that he was going to do, he hasn't and they've completely turned around. And I think people are like, you know what? He's bullshit.

Speaker 1:
[30:15] Yeah. So there is so much change happening. I just want us to keep our foot on the necks of our representatives to make sure that voters aren't suppressed this fall because it's coming up. We're all going to go enjoy summer and then it's going to be here before we know it. So now really is the time. Do you see the guy at the courtyard Marriott drinking wine? He's on a work trip at the courtyard Marriott. In Westbury, New York on Long Island.

Speaker 2:
[30:46] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[30:46] And the lobby bar keeps pouring him huge pours of white wine.

Speaker 2:
[30:54] Like mugs of white wine? Okay.

Speaker 1:
[30:57] And every single day he updates the Internet about his glass of wine. This is so niche. This is like my curated algorithm. But if you know, you know. There is people are just posting photos of huge glasses of white wine all over my feed now because of this one guy who's at the courtyard, Courtyard Marriott in Westbury, New York on a work trip, getting drunk in the lobby.

Speaker 2:
[31:19] Getting wine drunk.

Speaker 1:
[31:20] Getting wine drunk in the lobby. The bartender is like...

Speaker 2:
[31:22] I wonder if it's Chardonnay or Shebley.

Speaker 1:
[31:25] And then, oh, it's Pinot Grigio.

Speaker 2:
[31:26] Okay, thanks.

Speaker 1:
[31:27] And the bar closes at 10 p.m. So he goes at 9.55 and she glug, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug, fills up all the way up the wine glass to the top.

Speaker 2:
[31:37] Is he trying to empty out the bottle?

Speaker 1:
[31:39] Because he's like, I'm in Westbury, New York for a work trip. I'm going to get drunk every night.

Speaker 2:
[31:45] I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:
[31:46] I'm going to get drunk every night, please fill up my glass of wine. Okay. All right, let's take a break. Let's get into Under Oath. This is a deep dive into a topic of what's happening right now. I think we want to talk about what's going on in the Hungary election, which the results came back yesterday.

Speaker 2:
[32:05] I know, and they were.

Speaker 1:
[32:07] Very exciting.

Speaker 2:
[32:08] They were exciting. We're happy for them. I think what's really interesting is how shocked Oban was. He was just like.

Speaker 1:
[32:20] Really? You sure?

Speaker 2:
[32:24] I wonder if that is going to be significant in the sense of like, are we seeing the winds change a little bit that people are pushing back on that kind of thing? What do you think?

Speaker 1:
[32:36] I hope so.

Speaker 2:
[32:38] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:39] I'm like very hopeful. But I have also been like beaten with a stick. So I feel like maybe like hopeful asterisked. Let's cover, let's like go through it because I actually didn't follow it super close. Right. And then I kind of was late to the party. Okay. So after 16 years in power, Viktor Orbán and his party were defeated in a historic election.

Speaker 2:
[33:06] And they were slaughtered.

Speaker 1:
[33:08] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[33:09] It was a shellacking, right? It wasn't close. It was overwhelming. Right. The loss was overwhelming. And this is what I was saying. He was, he seemed so taken aback by it.

Speaker 1:
[33:21] It has ended one of Europe's most entrenched populist governments. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[33:26] But I read earlier also was that for the first time, the people who came out to vote, it was something like 80 percent of the population.

Speaker 1:
[33:36] It's a huge deal.

Speaker 2:
[33:37] It's a huge, huge number.

Speaker 1:
[33:39] Massive public engagement is what I'm seeing. And I feel like this is happening in America too, right? There's an analog here where we can say that so much of new policy and administration in America is affecting populations that wasn't affecting them before, right? Everyone has to drive to work. Everyone has to pay at the pump. Everyone has to buy groceries. And so even the ignorant people who are like, well, I'm not political. Your existence is political. It always has been.

Speaker 2:
[34:09] Right.

Speaker 1:
[34:09] You're now more acutely aware of it.

Speaker 2:
[34:11] Maybe you're feeling it more.

Speaker 1:
[34:12] Yeah. And so I think that, you know, that 80% turnout in Hungary is directly related to, I think what we can expect in the midterms and in the next primary election in the US, because so much of the new policies in America are hitting populations that just weren't feeling politics traditionally before.

Speaker 2:
[34:30] Right.

Speaker 1:
[34:31] Right. People of color, gay people, we've always been acutely aware of what's going on in politics.

Speaker 2:
[34:36] We have to be. Right.

Speaker 1:
[34:37] Legislation literally is deciding whether we live or die sometimes. So that 80% I think is like an interesting marker of what could potentially happen in the US.

Speaker 2:
[34:48] I think the other thing that my understanding of what was happening in Hungary is that the people just sort of finally had enough. Right. That the people of Hungary were really struggling with poverty. Meanwhile, he had, you know, like a zoo in his home.

Speaker 1:
[35:06] Right.

Speaker 2:
[35:06] So if you have like a pet peacock or, you know, a zebra, but you're expecting me to not be able to feed my family, eventually enough is going to be enough and I'm going to figure out a way to rebel.

Speaker 1:
[35:19] I mean, these are A to B comparisons, right? Like we can compare the zoo to the new White House ballroom. Right.

Speaker 2:
[35:25] And his Ark.

Speaker 1:
[35:28] What?

Speaker 2:
[35:28] You didn't see the Ark?

Speaker 3:
[35:29] No. It looks like it looks like the- Who's Ark?

Speaker 1:
[35:32] Is it our president or- Oh, no.

Speaker 2:
[35:34] It looks like the Ark of Trump.

Speaker 1:
[35:35] I thought this was in Hungary. And this is why I don't go to DC. This is why I hate going to DC. What is that? That's Washington Square Park.

Speaker 2:
[35:43] It's not Washington Square Park. It's the Ark that Trump wants to build in the Potomac as a monument to himself.

Speaker 1:
[35:51] I mean, the audacity.

Speaker 2:
[35:53] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[35:53] The audacity of hope. The audacity of Trump to build a monument to himself. Wait, did you see the vigilante artist who made Trump and Epstein embracing the Titanic and put it? No. It's huge. Where is it? Right by the Washington Monument.

Speaker 4:
[36:18] I love that. No, I didn't see it.

Speaker 1:
[36:20] They did it overnight, yeah. But I think the direct connection to what happened in the Hungary election is that, it wasn't that who was running was very compelling and let's face it, going into an election with, I don't know, do you know of any Democratic potential candidates who are blowing your socks off? Because for me, it's Gavin Newsom is all I've really heard.

Speaker 2:
[36:44] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[36:44] I'm like, okay.

Speaker 4:
[36:45] But we, you know, I-

Speaker 1:
[36:47] Not very excited.

Speaker 2:
[36:48] Not super excited. I think desperation has set in.

Speaker 1:
[36:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:53] Right. So it's like what we did with Biden, right? We really thought you were like, all right, Uncle Joe, come in to save us. We needed saving, right? And I kept on saying, like he is going to be, for people who watched Game of Thrones, President Hodor, right? Like he was just going to hold the door. That's what he was going to do. Is it too soon still for that? Sorry.

Speaker 1:
[37:15] Oh my God. Devastating episode 10 years ago.

Speaker 2:
[37:18] But that's what we thought he was going to do. And we watched him get older and feeling like maybe he's not as with it as he's supposed to be. And also thinking that Kamala was going to do something to make us more excited about her.

Speaker 1:
[37:37] Instead, they were like, Kamala, you're in charge of the border.

Speaker 2:
[37:40] Right.

Speaker 1:
[37:41] Fix that.

Speaker 3:
[37:41] Fix that.

Speaker 1:
[37:42] And she was like, what?

Speaker 2:
[37:43] It's an impossible, an impossible task.

Speaker 3:
[37:45] Right.

Speaker 1:
[37:45] And then we had Brat Summer, which is like, how, if you can't win with Brat Summer, you can't, you shouldn't be running. She's talking about running again. You think she's going to run again?

Speaker 2:
[37:55] She said, she had said that she wasn't. And then recently I heard that there's something in the, and the thing about it is-

Speaker 1:
[38:01] I could just feel the TikTok impersonators of Kamala's voice coming up.

Speaker 2:
[38:05] The thing about it was, the reason why once Biden dropped out, again, desperation, and we were like, okay, Kamala, and we were all in behind-

Speaker 1:
[38:16] I was excited.

Speaker 2:
[38:17] I was excited because she was all that we had.

Speaker 1:
[38:20] Yeah. I mean, she's a prosecutor.

Speaker 2:
[38:22] So she was all that she, she was all that we had. And now that's what I'm so disappointed about the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1:
[38:29] Like there's no investment in the next.

Speaker 2:
[38:32] Yeah. There's no star, right? There's like, there isn't anybody who I'm like, yes, yes, that is the person that is who we need.

Speaker 1:
[38:41] And so I think what happened in Hungary was it wasn't that Maegyar. It wasn't that he was so extraordinary. It was that people were so frustrated.

Speaker 2:
[38:50] Correct.

Speaker 1:
[38:50] And I wonder if that's what Democratic DNC leadership is going to be thinking as they're getting ready for the next election.

Speaker 2:
[38:59] I hate that though.

Speaker 1:
[39:00] I know.

Speaker 2:
[39:01] I want to be excited about the process.

Speaker 1:
[39:04] I don't want to be the prom date that you pick because everyone else said no.

Speaker 2:
[39:09] Or like, you're doing somebody a favor.

Speaker 1:
[39:11] It's like Hermione. When Ron asked Hermione after he asked everyone else to go to the Yule Ball. Yeah, he asked Fleur to go to the Yule Ball. And then Hermione was like, actually, I got someone already. Yeah. So I feel like, is that what we're going to do with our next election, guys?

Speaker 2:
[39:30] That's what it feels like. I'm not hearing anything.

Speaker 1:
[39:34] I'm not hearing anything.

Speaker 2:
[39:36] I'm not hearing anything. All I see is Gavin sort of coming out.

Speaker 1:
[39:41] Tuning my earpiece. I'm not hearing anything.

Speaker 2:
[39:43] I'm not hearing anything. It's just Gavin coming out over and over again. And he's fine.

Speaker 1:
[39:49] There are so many problems with Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 2:
[39:52] There are. But right now, who else is there?

Speaker 1:
[39:57] Right. Oh, wait. What happened with that guy? I'm totally blanking on his name. He was running for election. Sexual accusations. He was like, I'm not stepping down.

Speaker 2:
[40:09] And he did.

Speaker 1:
[40:09] And he did. Republicans were like, we're going to come for you. And then he'd step down.

Speaker 2:
[40:13] He stepped down.

Speaker 1:
[40:14] Eric Swalwell.

Speaker 2:
[40:15] Yes. Eric.

Speaker 1:
[40:17] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[40:18] And I didn't know who he was. I didn't know. I didn't know who he was until-

Speaker 1:
[40:21] Brad had to explain it. Mansplain it to me.

Speaker 2:
[40:23] Oh, really?

Speaker 1:
[40:24] I'm in a same sex relationship. There's twice as much mansplaining in my home.

Speaker 2:
[40:27] I'm sorry to hear that.

Speaker 1:
[40:28] Yeah. Everything gets mansplained in this house. In this house, we believe.

Speaker 2:
[40:33] That mansplaining is important.

Speaker 1:
[40:35] Let's laugh mansplain.

Speaker 2:
[40:38] But I didn't know who he was. But again, it was so disappointing. The other thing is, what does this mean? We are learning more and more about mostly men. I'm not saying that it's always men, but mostly men who are just abusers. They're pedophiles, they're sexually aggressive, they're rapists, what is that about? I just wonder what it is about. Is it that we're just learning about it because now we have more access to information? Has it always been this way? I remember working with a woman, when Me Too came out, everybody came out with their own stories of things that happened. She said that when she was a teenager, she worked at a bakery, and she said that all the girls, it was the owners only hired young women to work there, and everyone knew not to get stuck in the back with Joe. Because he was, and she was like, and everybody knew, and like the girls would watch out for, hey, he's back there, I'll go with you, or don't go at all, or whatever it was. And like women have always had to learn how to circumvent that kind of thing. And it is something, I think if you sort of throw something out, take a poll, I wanna say that I started, occasionally feeling uncomfortable by the male gaze when I was like 12 or 13 years old.

Speaker 1:
[42:19] Really?

Speaker 2:
[42:20] And I'm not alone. I am not alone. And it's sort of like walking down the street, and think about this, at 13 years old, I was in my Catholic elementary school uniform, right? And feeling like a lecherous look, feeling it and not knowing what to do about it because I was a child, right? And what kind of a grown-

Speaker 1:
[42:42] And you don't understand.

Speaker 2:
[42:43] You don't understand. No, right. And what kind of a grown man, that's what he's doing.

Speaker 1:
[42:51] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[42:51] You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[42:52] And it incites like a trauma response.

Speaker 2:
[42:54] Oh, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[42:54] In like a young mind, right? Like it shapes how your brain develops.

Speaker 2:
[42:59] 100 percent.

Speaker 1:
[42:59] Yeah. I do think part of it has to do with access to information now. Okay. It's easier for victims to connect with each other, I feel like.

Speaker 2:
[43:08] Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1:
[43:09] And especially when you are a public figure like that. Like so many, it's easy for people, easier for people to come forward. I do love to see that we are taking it seriously and we're listening to women, because that isn't always the case.

Speaker 2:
[43:24] Correct. Correct.

Speaker 1:
[43:25] We just saw it with Pam Bondi and her ignoring hundreds of victims who came forward.

Speaker 2:
[43:31] And one would hope that as a woman herself.

Speaker 1:
[43:34] No.

Speaker 2:
[43:35] And I hear you, but like, that's not a woman.

Speaker 1:
[43:37] That's a monster. Sorry, she doesn't get to call herself a woman. That's a crazy bitch.

Speaker 2:
[43:42] She's evil. No, for sure. For sure. For sure. I mean, it's like, but like Megyn Kelly, for example, who was talking about how, you know, Epstein, he liked them barely legal.

Speaker 1:
[43:52] Like Megyn Kelly can eat shit and die. Like I truly hope she gets hit by a bus. And I want to be there. No, I'm going to use some of our karma points on that. I'm going to, how many negative karma points is that? In the name of Jesus.

Speaker 2:
[44:06] For Megyn, in the name of Jesus.

Speaker 1:
[44:07] I will not die.

Speaker 2:
[44:08] I'm going to say that is, you are negative five. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[44:13] If she's an a**, I'm not going to be sad about it.

Speaker 2:
[44:17] No.

Speaker 1:
[44:17] I think that's like negative three. I'm going to negotiate it to three.

Speaker 2:
[44:21] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[44:21] You know? Oh my God, did you see the toilet paper factory that burned down?

Speaker 2:
[44:25] No.

Speaker 1:
[44:25] Kimberly Clark, oh my God. Kimberly Clark, great drag name by the way. Someone take that.

Speaker 2:
[44:31] I bet you somebody has that.

Speaker 1:
[44:32] Because I decided mine is Magenta Cartridge Low. Isn't that a good one? It's a really good one. Please welcome to the stage, Magenta Cartridge Low. So there is Kimberly Clark, toilet paper, Miss Costco, loves her.

Speaker 2:
[44:48] Kirkland.

Speaker 1:
[44:49] Yeah. Literally, the number one toilet paper provider in America. They, a worker was so underpaid that he was like, fuck this. No. Lit his lighter and lit this huge warehouse in California that housed-

Speaker 2:
[45:08] Paper.

Speaker 1:
[45:09] Like a lot of paper. It was like the majority of their warehouse stock was in this warehouse in California. Went up like it was a powder cake.

Speaker 2:
[45:19] Sure. It's paper.

Speaker 1:
[45:20] Yeah. Everyone got out. Everyone's safe. Everyone's fine. He said, you should have paid me more.

Speaker 2:
[45:27] Well, now he's going to jail.

Speaker 1:
[45:28] Now he's going to jail. However, everyone online is like, fair wages. What's up with fair wages at the Kimberly-Clark factory? Because now, okay, so their share dropped 4% at market opening. Good. Yeah. Everyone is talking about fair wages, worker rights at the Kimberly-Clark factories. It got so bad, he burned it to the ground.

Speaker 2:
[45:52] Yeah, I know. But I mean, I think it goes along with what we've been saying. As a society, we are not okay.

Speaker 1:
[45:58] We're not okay.

Speaker 2:
[45:59] We're not okay.

Speaker 1:
[46:00] We're not okay, but also corporations listen to us when we say, pay us a little bit more so that we can afford diabetes medication, so that we can afford baby formula. Literally just like the bare minimum is what people are asking for and everyone's like, shareholder value. Sorry, we're going to put that over your well-being. And so I think like, sorry, I know we're so off topic, but I feel like-

Speaker 2:
[46:23] Who us, really?

Speaker 1:
[46:27] It reminded me, I had a friend who had a performance review at work and it didn't go well.

Speaker 2:
[46:35] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[46:35] It was like a mid-performance review and this person had done like such a ton of work, ate a lot of shit for the company and they gave her like a mid. They gave her like the middle of the road and so she quit. In the performance review. Right there. She was like, you know what, I actually did a lot and I'm going to go. Yeah. The manager was like, wait, wait, no, we don't want you to quit. But, but, but, but, but. She's like, no, you just, you had the opportunity to reward me for my work.

Speaker 2:
[47:07] You didn't.

Speaker 1:
[47:07] You had the opportunity to tell me, good job. This was a really tough year. I put it all in there while it was tough. How I went above and beyond, you still gave me the five out of 10, whatever the score was. So I'm going to go.

Speaker 2:
[47:19] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[47:20] And, and management was devastated.

Speaker 2:
[47:23] Sure they were.

Speaker 1:
[47:24] And it feels like that where it's like, I don't know, it just kind of reminded me of that of like, what's it going to take for you to recognize that your workers need to be paid, that this getting your shareholders a 0.025 percent more on their dividend isn't worth the well-being of your employees.

Speaker 2:
[47:44] Did you see that Oracle laid off something like 30,000 people?

Speaker 1:
[47:49] Oh my God. And they're going to replace them with AI?

Speaker 2:
[47:52] No, I don't know what they're going to do. But the CEO got some kind of insane bonus package.

Speaker 1:
[47:59] Yes. I think about that with Costco. I know Costco and Kimberly Clark are connected, but Costco is like its own company. I know they sell a lot of Kirkland products, but Costco, and I think it's BJs, Costco pays their employees like extremely well, and they stay for up to a decade, I think is like the average.

Speaker 2:
[48:20] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[48:21] BJs pays them nothing, and I think they stay less than a year, each employee. They're constantly cycling through people.

Speaker 2:
[48:28] Right.

Speaker 1:
[48:28] It's like how much are you spending to recruit people like that?

Speaker 2:
[48:31] I mean, I think they just think that people are dispensable, right? It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1:
[48:35] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[48:35] And so, just sort of back to this by, I was just thinking about this. So, you know what this means? The price of toilet paper is going to go up.

Speaker 1:
[48:43] Yeah, there's a shortage. There's a shortage because of this.

Speaker 2:
[48:46] Like during COVID.

Speaker 1:
[48:47] And like everything else, they're just going to pass that 4% cost onto the consumer. Yeah. So, it feels like we're at a turning point sometimes. It feels like we're in this moment where people are fed up. There are the Luigi's of the world taking matters into their own hands. There are people like this guy at the Kirkland factory burning it all down. We unfortunately, and I don't want to get into a space where I'm encouraging people to take matters into their own hands. No, we're not doing that.

Speaker 2:
[49:13] We're not. We're not.

Speaker 1:
[49:14] Looking at the facts, looking at the numbers, the shareholders of United Health Care sued United, got together and sued because after Luigi allegedly murdered because there hasn't been a conviction yet, murdered the CEO, they started approving more claims. And the shareholders got together and said, No. You approve too many claims. You're being reckless with our money. You've got to be looking out for us in capitalism. We're the bottom line.

Speaker 2:
[49:43] Sure.

Speaker 1:
[49:43] Everything comes down to shareholders, whether or not.

Speaker 2:
[49:47] So, I mean, it's really interesting.

Speaker 1:
[49:48] They got together and sued because they approved too many claims.

Speaker 2:
[49:51] So they're approving too many claims out of fear, right?

Speaker 1:
[49:55] Literally the claim approval rating or percentage went up after that. Yeah. So, people online were like, it worked. They said it, not me.

Speaker 2:
[50:09] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[50:10] They were like, it worked.

Speaker 2:
[50:11] But I hate that. And I'm not saying that you-

Speaker 1:
[50:15] It's very French. It's very French. It's like, let's set it on fire. Yeah. You know what? What if we burned it down? What if we stormed up a steel?

Speaker 3:
[50:27] Throw it in the garbage.

Speaker 1:
[50:28] It really is. It's very French Revolutionary coded.

Speaker 2:
[50:32] It is. Let me zip up.

Speaker 1:
[50:35] Sounds delicious. I'll take two.

Speaker 2:
[50:36] Right. I'm not saying anything new here, but it's still disappointing and frustrating to realize that this is what it takes.

Speaker 1:
[50:49] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[50:49] Right?

Speaker 1:
[50:50] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[50:50] It shouldn't take this.

Speaker 1:
[50:51] There is a documentary called The Price of the Vote.

Speaker 2:
[50:54] Oh, the Hungarian.

Speaker 1:
[50:56] Yes. His name is Aaron Tamar. We're going to sit down with him tomorrow. We're going to do a special brief recess.

Speaker 2:
[51:04] Short.

Speaker 1:
[51:04] Yes. We're going to release it as a short online. He covers this election in Hungary extensively. I want to hear from him. 2.2 million people watched this documentary in Hungary. It came out two weeks before the election. That's a third of their voting population and people think it had this huge impact on voter turnout in this election. This documentary, I think, really changed the course of this election. It's kind of interesting. We're going to sit down with the director tomorrow. We'll release it as a short, a little bonus episode. I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 2:
[51:39] So am I.

Speaker 1:
[51:39] What are you going to wear? Cat sweatshirt. I'll wear a dog sweatshirt. You wear a cat sweatshirt.

Speaker 2:
[51:44] I don't think I have a cat sweatshirt. Oh, I do have a cat sweatshirt.

Speaker 1:
[51:47] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[51:47] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[51:48] Or I have my octopus sweater.

Speaker 4:
[51:50] What's that?

Speaker 1:
[51:50] People on the internet love it. When I was in psychosis during COVID, I got really into crochet, and I crocheted an octopus onto a sweater during a mental breakdown.

Speaker 2:
[51:59] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[51:59] But it's really cute.

Speaker 2:
[52:01] I've never seen it.

Speaker 1:
[52:01] It's like the best thing to come out of one of my mental breakdowns, and people on the internet go ape shit for it. So maybe I'll wear that.

Speaker 2:
[52:08] I've never seen it.

Speaker 1:
[52:09] You've seen it. Have I? I've posted videos in it. Are you not following me?

Speaker 2:
[52:14] Speaking of not following, so our show, Brief Recess, has its own social media presence that's relatively new. I follow us. My mom follows us. My friends follow us. A lot of you follow us.

Speaker 4:
[52:32] You know who did not follow us?

Speaker 2:
[52:36] Michael Charles Foote.

Speaker 1:
[52:37] Okay. In my defense.

Speaker 2:
[52:39] There is no defense.

Speaker 1:
[52:41] I manage that account. So it feels like me. So I like switch between the accounts. I'm like posting and then I go back to my account. So I just never thought to follow myself. I was like, this is, it's just me. I gotta take this. It's my lawyer. Yeah. Hello. It's my agent.

Speaker 2:
[53:01] Unbelievable. Are you following us now?

Speaker 1:
[53:03] I'm following it now because you called it out. How did you even figure that out?

Speaker 2:
[53:07] Okay. I'll tell you how I figured it out. I actually, to be fair, I did not figure it out. I was in the comments and a commenter said, Michael's not even following himself.

Speaker 1:
[53:19] Who's that thought?

Speaker 2:
[53:20] I don't know. I don't remember.

Speaker 1:
[53:21] I bet it was one of my friends. My friends are such bitches.

Speaker 2:
[53:24] I love that though.

Speaker 1:
[53:25] I hate them so much.

Speaker 2:
[53:26] Then so I looked and then I went to confirm and I was like, are you not following us?

Speaker 1:
[53:32] Oh man. All right. Well, I'm following it now. Someone really clocked my T. Damn, they really gathered me.

Speaker 2:
[53:38] Yeah. It's really interesting. People pay attention to weird internet stuff, right?

Speaker 1:
[53:44] I love that.

Speaker 2:
[53:44] Oh, I know.

Speaker 1:
[53:45] All right. We'll be right back. Let's take a break. Let's get into tales from the DMs. Let's talk about all the wicked and wild, crazy, sometimes slutty things you send me on the internet. Lunacy. Yeah. You could send it to me. You could send it to the Brief Recess account, which I now follow. You can send it to our email, which is briefrecess.exactlyrightmedia.com, or you can record it through my link tree. It's called SpeakPipe, and you can record your voice and send us your. But we do like to analyze your voices. We do want a voice memo.

Speaker 2:
[54:18] Few things though. If you are sending us a voice note, remember to be sure whether or not you want us to say your name. So try not to include super personal information, right?

Speaker 1:
[54:30] Yeah, totally. Yes. Only your social circuit. No.

Speaker 2:
[54:34] Your home address.

Speaker 1:
[54:35] Just your credit card, please. Okay. So this question is no.

Speaker 2:
[54:41] Wait.

Speaker 1:
[54:42] What?

Speaker 2:
[54:43] What I always say people, while Michael is a lawyer, he's not your lawyer. You can't skip that part. You're going to get in trouble.

Speaker 1:
[54:50] Oh, yeah. Don't skip that. I told you. Just quit gaslighting.

Speaker 2:
[54:58] I won't be gaslighting.

Speaker 1:
[55:00] Do you want to read this question for me? Good day.

Speaker 2:
[55:02] Wishing you a positive weekend. Question. Does US Customs have the right to take your phone when entering the country as a random security check? That's a good question.

Speaker 1:
[55:11] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[55:12] I was forced to give them my phone at Fort Lauderdale Airport, and they held it for two hours. They made me give them my password.

Speaker 1:
[55:22] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[55:23] I was held in a waiting area. They gave me my phone back and just sent me on my way. I'm just curious because I felt violated. This happened in January of this year. Can they do that?

Speaker 1:
[55:31] They can do that.

Speaker 2:
[55:33] Do you have to give them your password?

Speaker 1:
[55:35] You don't. That's the nuance there, is that under the Fourth Amendment, you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. That is the rule and Fourth Amendment girlies where you come at me because I love the Fourth Amendment. Fourth Amendment, it's about your reasonable expectation of privacy, like the reasonable average person would expect that what's on their phone is private. This is like what courts think a reasonable person would believe. It's not you and me believing this, right? This is what a judge decides. But if your phone is password protected, a judge and jury would then say, oh, yeah, that person had a reasonable expectation of privacy on their phone. Therefore, they can't be forced to hand that over. But they can still do it. They can still say like, you need to give me your passcode. And if you give it to them, then you're basically waiving your reasonable expectation of privacy because you proffered your passcode when prompted. However, there's no law, rule, nothing that says you have to give it to them. You could say, no, it's my phone. It's private. I'm not giving you my password.

Speaker 2:
[56:47] And what then can they do to you? If this person had said, no, would they have been able to just keep this person?

Speaker 1:
[57:00] Well, what this person hasn't told me is if they're a citizen.

Speaker 2:
[57:03] Right.

Speaker 1:
[57:04] We have had reports of non-citizen visitors to the US getting the boot because at the airport sent back home. There was a big story a couple months ago over the summer, I would say, of a Norwegian tourist coming to America, had a meme of JD Vance's bloated face. Have you seen that meme? I love it. It's my screensaver. And so it was like puffy, filler face and they saw it and they sent him back to Norway. And then the whole Trump administration was like, we never did that. That didn't happen. It happened and it's happened. There are other accounts of that happening. But if you are a US citizen and you're coming to the US, you are like everyone in the US, regardless of whether they're a citizen, has Fourth Amendment rights. However, you don't have an absolute right to enter the US unless you are a citizen. So CBP, Customs and Border Protection can stop you, right? Like review your documents, look at your passport, determine if you should come in or not. Like they do have discretion there, which is why I'm like, is this person a citizen? If they are, then you could have, if you wanted to dig your heels in, not give them your phone, say it's protected, there's confidential information on there, it's none of your business. And the worst that they could have done is held them for a couple hours to look further into their background in their own systems, gone through their luggage, whatever, but not access to their phone. They can confiscate your phone. US citizens, they have been confiscating your phones, the phones, and it's been worked, they're working through it in the courts right now, whether they can do that, which is why The Times did an article a couple months ago, right after the shooting of Renee Good, the murder of Renee, talking about how you should switch your phone, power it down before you go through Customs and Border Protection, if you're entering at a US airport, because it's harder for the CIA to access your information if they confiscate your phone.

Speaker 2:
[59:05] Gotcha. But do they need to give you a reason why they're taking your phone from you?

Speaker 1:
[59:09] I mean, you can demand one, but no. If you come up red in their system and they want to take it, they can.

Speaker 2:
[59:17] But like this person.

Speaker 1:
[59:18] They can do it all in the name of-

Speaker 2:
[59:20] They got sent away like nothing.

Speaker 1:
[59:22] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[59:22] Like nothing.

Speaker 1:
[59:24] What happened to this person?

Speaker 2:
[59:25] They were sent away. They gave them the phone back and sent them away like nothing.

Speaker 1:
[59:31] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[59:31] Meanwhile, you've been cooling your heels for two hours in Fort Lauderdale.

Speaker 1:
[59:35] Yeah. Waiting to get your phone back. It's crazy. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying it's happening.

Speaker 2:
[59:41] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:41] And that no one's stopping them right now. Okay. Let's read some reviews then.

Speaker 2:
[59:46] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[59:48] I hope there's someone from Pennsylvania telling me that I'm a stupid bitch and that I should kill myself because-

Speaker 2:
[59:53] There is not.

Speaker 1:
[59:53] Last week-

Speaker 2:
[59:54] I know. What was her name? She came for us too.

Speaker 1:
[59:57] She was like, hey, you ugly whore. I was like, Jesus Christ. Oh my God. Okay. From the AfroMan episode from Magalie Malebranche. Mélissa's mom, very nice show. I enjoy watching you every week. Oh, I'm sure she's talking about me.

Speaker 2:
[60:16] She is talking about you. She's definitely not talking about me. So CJ showed this to me and I'm like, that's not my mother.

Speaker 1:
[60:22] There's no way she made an account on comment.

Speaker 2:
[60:26] And I don't like her username.

Speaker 1:
[60:29] It's a little bit too-

Speaker 2:
[60:31] I'm going to make her change it.

Speaker 1:
[60:32] Because people are going to be messaging her like, We love your daughter.

Speaker 2:
[60:37] Or not.

Speaker 1:
[60:37] My mom's going to be messaging her, Welcome, Mélissa, to the family. So excited about the recent nuptials. Oh, man. Oh, my God. OK, last week's episode, the Mount Rushmore of DC Chaos, Show Me You're Pretty says, I love this podcast. You both give me so much life. Keep up amazing work, divas. That's really nice. Thank you. Alicia123 says, Brief Recess is one of the most important, informative, and entertaining podcasts I've ever come across. I understand 11 seconds in that this will be a heavy one. Thank you for posting it. Oh, that's very sweet of you.

Speaker 2:
[61:10] That's really nice. Runway to Reality Check with Joana from Alexa. I love the Haitian mother look. It looks like something I've seen in a gangster movie.

Speaker 1:
[61:20] Oh, is it the one where she's going to beat you with a sandal?

Speaker 2:
[61:23] Wow.

Speaker 1:
[61:23] I'm surprised your mother loves this podcast after this.

Speaker 2:
[61:27] Slowly she turns but keeps you in her sights. That is definitely my mom.

Speaker 1:
[61:31] You don't have to be a relative to leave her.

Speaker 2:
[61:32] You don't have to be a relative. But it would be nice if more of my relatives watched. Although I did see a cousin, when I saw a bunch of my cousins this weekend and my cousin was like, I listen to it all the time. She's like, you guys are really good, which I really appreciate.

Speaker 1:
[61:53] Does Andre listen? Does your spouse or your other husband?

Speaker 2:
[61:56] My other husband.

Speaker 1:
[61:57] Brad doesn't listen.

Speaker 2:
[61:59] At all?

Speaker 1:
[61:59] And that's why I talk so much shit about him. And he was like, I get that at home. You yapping nonstop.

Speaker 2:
[62:07] That's actually fair.

Speaker 1:
[62:08] Because I do just kind of burst into whatever room he's in and I just started annoying the shit out of him.

Speaker 2:
[62:12] Fair, same.

Speaker 1:
[62:13] He's like, I'm imagining what you're doing on the podcast. He's like, I get plenty of that.

Speaker 2:
[62:19] I mean, I do a lot of weird, creepy things to Andre all the time.

Speaker 1:
[62:23] Yeah. Name them straight to camera. Sure.

Speaker 2:
[62:26] So what I love, my favorite thing to do is to peer at him from around a doorway.

Speaker 1:
[62:31] Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very feline of you. That's kind of like what you're a cat person.

Speaker 2:
[62:35] I am a cat person and I'll wait until he catches me. He's like, what? And then I won't say anything. I'll just back away.

Speaker 1:
[62:42] I torment Brad with the diva. Diva, pick up your fucking shoes. All right. That was Tales from the Dams. Thank you, everyone, for sending us messages. You can always leave a review for the show anywhere you get podcasts. We love reading your fun little reviews.

Speaker 2:
[62:57] Thanks, mom.

Speaker 1:
[63:01] Thank you for listening. This has been Brief Recess. Go to hell and take me with you.

Speaker 2:
[63:08] We're already there.

Speaker 1:
[63:09] This is Brief Recess. Thank you for watching. I'll see you at the polls in Hungary. This is Brief Recess. Thank you for watching. I'll see you in court.

Speaker 2:
[63:19] Not me.

Speaker 1:
[63:23] This has been an Exactly Right production recorded at iHeart Studios, hosted by me, Michael Foote, and me, Mélissa Malebranche.

Speaker 2:
[63:29] Our producer is CJ Ferroni.

Speaker 1:
[63:31] This episode was edited by Nicolas Galucci.

Speaker 2:
[63:33] Our associate producer is Christina Chamberlain, and our guest booker is Patrick Hotner.

Speaker 1:
[63:38] Our theme song was composed by Tom Breyfogle with artwork from Charlotte Delarue and Vanessa Lilac, with photography by Brad Obono.

Speaker 2:
[63:45] Brief Recess is executive produced by Karen Kilgariff, Georgia Hardstark and Danielle Kramer.

Speaker 1:
[63:50] You can find me on Instagram at Department of Redundancy Department or on TikTok at Michael Foote.

Speaker 2:
[63:54] And I'm on both Instagram and TikTok as Mélissa Malebranche.

Speaker 1:
[63:58] Got legal questions? Reach out at briefrecessatexactlyrightmedia.com. Listen to Brief Recess on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And of course, wear a podcast with video. Search for Brief Recess on YouTube.