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Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 3:
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Speaker 2:
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Speaker 4:
[01:01] When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

Speaker 5:
[01:04] They said that I am by far the most difficult talent that they're working with. You know, we could say we don't judge. I judge and I was judging.

Speaker 6:
[01:11] Money doesn't make you an asshole, but if you're an asshole and with a ton of money, you're going to be a bigger asshole. No, I didn't, I didn't mean to, I didn't mean to look in that direction.

Speaker 5:
[01:20] Jeff Lewis has issues. Hey, it's Jeff Lewis and I have issues. In today's episode, Liz Roman and Michael Beck join the show from Las Vegas. We talk about sleep routines, smoke machines, and why Michael prefers going commando. Liz has sunglasses on. Also, we are indoors here.

Speaker 7:
[01:39] It is very bright.

Speaker 8:
[01:40] It's very bright.

Speaker 3:
[01:42] And can I tell you something? I want to reveal something. I'm not really hungover. I just knew that that would be the easiest $500 I ever made in my whole life. I could just sit back, relax, kick up my feet, and she was going to do the talking.

Speaker 5:
[01:55] I thought of that this morning. We didn't need Michael the first hour.

Speaker 7:
[01:57] No. Okay, wait. So I went upstairs. We all came back. It was probably 1130. And Jeff was like, I think I'm going to sit and gamble for a second. And I went upstairs at probably 1140. And I was in bed by like 1220.

Speaker 5:
[02:12] Okay. So what happened is I gammeled a little bit. So I'm up 625.

Speaker 9:
[02:18] Really?

Speaker 5:
[02:18] Yeah. I'm up 625.

Speaker 7:
[02:19] You were up already before we even left.

Speaker 5:
[02:21] I was up 675. Then I lost 50. I'm like, um, let's, let's just, let's just call it a night because you're up 625. So then I walked through the tower suites lobby and there were a lot of people there. But I'm like, Jeff, you got to go to bed. You got to go to bed. You got ready. You got to get, you got to get up at six. So I get up to my room and then I call Michael. Hey, the lobby's going off. Let's go down.

Speaker 7:
[02:42] Wait, you made it all the way up and then left again.

Speaker 5:
[02:44] And Michael goes, I'll meet you in three minutes.

Speaker 3:
[02:49] Well, the truth is, the truth is because we went to that sushi restaurant for dinner and I don't eat sushi. And I had my little snacks, but I was kind of hungry. So I was actually at the cafe.

Speaker 5:
[02:59] You were eating? I thought you were in your room.

Speaker 2:
[03:04] Okay, wait a minute.

Speaker 3:
[03:09] No, I was getting a bowl of chicken noodle soup and a grilled cheese. But the funny thing is when you called me, I had just checked out and just grabbed my food and you're like meet me there. So I had to run up to my room, throw my food in my room and then come back down to meet you to the.

Speaker 5:
[03:23] That's funny because I thought, I'm like, God, this is like the longest three minutes. And then I texted him like, hey, I'm sitting at the bar. What do you want? And that's what took you so long.

Speaker 3:
[03:31] Yeah. You were eating? No, I didn't mean to eat it until later, until like.

Speaker 9:
[03:35] It was worse. Actually, I'm going to confess because I, okay, I did not actually feel that full after that sushi dinner either. And that, and I will say the cocktail at Lisa Vanderpump's Pinkie, I took two sips of that and I was like, hell no.

Speaker 5:
[03:57] Oh, I forgot. We met up with Lisa Vanderpump.

Speaker 1:
[03:59] You first saw that?

Speaker 9:
[04:02] That was where we all went down. Those cocktails were strong. So I, you two said, I'm going to go gamble. Okay, bye guys. I'm like, I need ice cream or I need something. So I'm going to, Michael, I'm going to, this is such a confession. I'm at the gelato stand and I see you out of the corner of my eye going into the cafe.

Speaker 8:
[04:29] I was like, I don't want to see me.

Speaker 9:
[04:31] I totally saw you and I was like, oh no.

Speaker 3:
[04:34] No.

Speaker 9:
[04:35] I got distracted and I ordered the wrong flavor and I said, oh crap. I hadn't touched you. I go, I actually want a mint and chip. And she goes, now you have to have two scoops. So I was walking through the lobby with a double scoop of ice cream by myself up to my room.

Speaker 5:
[04:50] That's just sad.

Speaker 9:
[04:52] It was, I thought, God, if I run into any of the guys, I will never live this down, but now I'm confessing all of it.

Speaker 5:
[04:57] Now Liz, we should probably remind our listeners because we talk about you all the time, but you are my manager and you also have become this kind of these live event producer, whether you want it to or not.

Speaker 9:
[05:07] Yes, you did back me into that, but I enjoy them very much because I love chumps. They are the nicest people. My favorite thing is when someone sees you Jeff and they start to cry or get choked up, like Jeff, oh my God. I just think it's the sweetest thing ever because there's a side of you I think a lot of people don't know, and it comes through in those one-on-ones, and especially the pre-cocktail hour. I'm not trying to upsell anybody, anything.

Speaker 5:
[05:36] This is a good upsell.

Speaker 9:
[05:37] I know.

Speaker 5:
[05:38] Good job.

Speaker 9:
[05:38] You actually do really give people one-on-one attention and time. It's so nice. I love it.

Speaker 5:
[05:45] That's true. I've said this over and over. It means a lot to me when people come up and they say, look, you got me through this and you got me through that. You got me through this. And it just means a lot to me. And it kind of because sometimes, you know, sometimes you look at yourself in the mirror and like, what am I doing? What am I doing with my life? What's my purpose? And I feel like whenever that happens, wherever I am, it's like, OK, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be. And I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. It's like affirmation.

Speaker 9:
[06:12] Yeah. And I think the live shows validate that because it's so intimate and it's three levels, right? We have the pre cocktail hour, then we have the live show and then we have the meet and greet afterwards. So you are talking to hundreds of people that evening and everybody has varying different reactions to you and different generations. It's moms and daughters and husbands get dragged to it, but then they actually have a really good time. So it's I've actually really enjoyed it. And I also want to say, God love her, I'm not Liz Rome. One of the live shows I couldn't figure out, this was a couple of years ago, I kept getting congratulated that I just got engaged. Now I've been married for like 26 years. And I'm like, is there something I don't know? I mean, okay. Then I realized blonde hair, blue eyes, Liz Rome, Liz Roman. I'm like, God, poor Liz Rome. No, I'm not her. So like I thought you think Liz Rome would be here following Jeff around taking pictures all day. I think she's a little above that, the director. No, so I am different than her, but I admire her greatly.

Speaker 5:
[07:16] Now, Liz, I love that you're, you know, you're pointing out all the positives of the live events. But now let's talk about the negatives, and that is hurting cats or managing chumps. It's worse than hurting cats.

Speaker 9:
[07:31] I will say that there are a lot of personalities, and it's the most challenging part, because I have my pros, okay? I have my team. Shout out Doug, shout out Jamison, shout out Shane, you know, now Ken. I mean, there's just people that I know I can rely on to get us through it. Then there's other ones that are...

Speaker 5:
[07:49] Name them.

Speaker 9:
[07:50] Name them, name them. I'm gonna say, name them. I love you, Sutton. I'm gonna say, Patrick and Po. They were...

Speaker 7:
[08:01] Famously.

Speaker 9:
[08:02] Now, I...

Speaker 4:
[08:03] Stand on your feet everybody, Polar Two!

Speaker 9:
[08:06] Wait a minute, who are you? Did you do the audio? Who recorded me on audio? It was you, Ken, when I went off on Patrick and Po, because what people don't understand, they are fabulous at these events.

Speaker 4:
[08:18] They really are.

Speaker 9:
[08:19] They are.

Speaker 7:
[08:19] They love to meet people, they love to take selfies.

Speaker 9:
[08:21] So it's just the logistical side of it, right? Where we got to get things done in a timely manner. They are going to do selfies, they are walking around with a dog, they are upselling everything they have in their catalog. And if I have them on stage, Jeff just wants to move the meet and greet along.

Speaker 7:
[08:36] Yeah, so during that, the post show meet and greet, there's a line of anywhere from 150 to maybe even 200 people. And they want to have a moment with Jeff, but with each and every reach out. So Liz gets specifically especially frustrated in that moment when, and the people in line want to get through it too. They want to have their moment.

Speaker 5:
[08:54] Well, that's where I feel bad because I see the back of the line and I see that it's not moving. And people have been waiting there up to like an hour and 15 minutes. And then I look down to my right and Patrick and Paul are exchanging numbers. They're taking multiple pictures.

Speaker 7:
[09:10] Scheduling coffee reads. Face timing moms.

Speaker 5:
[09:13] And you did lose it one night.

Speaker 9:
[09:15] Well, that's because we were having, they always say, no, it's not us. It's not us. It's not us. It is them. God love them. And I said, don't gaslight me, you sons of bitches.

Speaker 6:
[09:24] I know what you're up to.

Speaker 9:
[09:26] But I love them because now we put them down to work the crowd and they entertain the crowd immensely.

Speaker 10:
[09:32] At this last event, Liz said I was holding someone up and she looked at me in point and she goes, don't make me yell at you the way I yell at Paul and Patrice.

Speaker 9:
[09:43] Also because I'm very professional at these events. Do not drink. We're trying to stick to a schedule to get it done. And Jeff is eyeballing me through the whole thing. Are we on time? Is this moving along? Are we on time? It's like, oh my gosh. So, you're trying to move it along. So certain times it's like, I have to be the bad mom of like, come on everybody. But overall-

Speaker 3:
[10:04] But they're the most high maintenance of all of the chums.

Speaker 7:
[10:06] Or Beverly D'Angelo, famously.

Speaker 3:
[10:09] Oh yeah, Beverly.

Speaker 7:
[10:10] She had an iconic appearance at a chummas. She came out as a grand finale.

Speaker 5:
[10:12] It was iconic.

Speaker 7:
[10:13] She sang a number, but to prepare for that number was hours and hours in the green room of preparation.

Speaker 9:
[10:20] There was hot tea. There was inhalation treatments followed by cigarettes. None of it made sense.

Speaker 7:
[10:28] No. She was on vocal rest. She was drinking hot tea, but then she needed a shot of 1942. Because that looms up the chords. Then it's back to vocal rest with the nebulizer, and then it step outside and bum a cigarette off a chum. It was ups and downs of the process and Liz was very involved. All right.

Speaker 5:
[10:42] You've been very positive about Patrick and Paul and there's a lot of positives about them. But how did you feel when Patrick blamed you for the mic not working at Phoenix? He did? Well, he said that you and, was it Doug?

Speaker 7:
[10:58] Yeah, you and Doug when you did the tech check, he must not have.

Speaker 5:
[11:00] Jamison, was it you? Who was, he blamed two people. I can't remember off the top of my head. He blamed Keon and Liz. It was Keon and Liz.

Speaker 9:
[11:07] I'm going to tie this right into Vegas. It was show girls. You know what? Sabotage. That's what we were up to. I mean, what does he think really? It's an on and off button. The problem is they're constantly walking around and the microphone is like an accessory. And it's like, so he keeps hitting the on and off button. So it's not Doug or my fault. And they do a great job in the audience. So I'm not taking anything away from them. And they actually have enough volume. I think they could project from wherever they were. So it was not an issue.

Speaker 5:
[11:38] Yeah. He said that you never, you and Keon did not test the mics and that his mic didn't work. Yes. Then the then the audio guy at Phoenix said that he had turned it off accidentally.

Speaker 9:
[11:49] No. OK. Listen, we do full tech run throughs. And my favorite techs are with, you know, LeCendra and your brother Todd, because this Las Vegas trip, I mean, first of all, I had to check three fricking bags for your brother.

Speaker 5:
[12:01] I mean, the Phoenix trip.

Speaker 9:
[12:02] What was the name? Vegas? Yeah. Phoenix. OK. I had to check three bags because he was bringing a smoke machine, a laser machine.

Speaker 3:
[12:09] OK, but the laser machine was a problem because it was in the back of the place.

Speaker 9:
[12:12] None of his stuff works. A problem.

Speaker 3:
[12:14] But the problem was the laser machine was pointing into the eyes of the audience. So the audience kept getting up and coming to us in production and being like, hey, this lighting system is not working because it's the laser pointing directly.

Speaker 10:
[12:26] It's blinding people.

Speaker 9:
[12:28] It was giving them like seizures. Yeah. And then when he goes to the smoke machine, it's directly into the front tables and people are like, can you get rid of the smoke machine? But Todd wants to create an atmosphere, an experience for people.

Speaker 3:
[12:39] It's so bootleg.

Speaker 9:
[12:40] It's, we get to Phoenix and the stage is so small. He's like, well, I can't have my backup dancers. Oh, you were going to have backup dancers? Okay, fine. I can't do my costume change now. You were going to have a costume change?

Speaker 5:
[12:53] He was.

Speaker 9:
[12:54] So you just kind of roll with Todd and him and LaKendra. We do full tech rehearsals to tech. Listen, Doug is the best. I let him and Jamison roll with those mics. He's a cymbalance, a cymbalance, a cymbalance on every microphone, testing the volume.

Speaker 5:
[13:09] Can I ask you something now?

Speaker 9:
[13:10] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[13:11] Why is Doug there? Because he's not performing and he's not moderating.

Speaker 9:
[13:15] Because Doug, God love him, likes to be involved.

Speaker 3:
[13:19] She's a little controlling.

Speaker 9:
[13:21] It gives him peace of mind, I think, to know that it's going to run smoothly within his control, because it's usually a bit of a shit show.

Speaker 5:
[13:29] Look, I love that he's there and I love that he's helping out, but then sometimes I have to remind myself, oh, you're not even in the show, really.

Speaker 9:
[13:38] Well, he is your, I think, he's one of your biggest supporters, and he wants to make sure you are presented very well publicly.

Speaker 5:
[13:46] Yes.

Speaker 9:
[13:46] So I love him. I mean, I let him do what he's going to do, because I think it's for the benefit of the show. There's a lot of cooks in this kitchen and there's a lot of egos. So a lot of times I realize it's a stepping back for me and just making it run smoothly because we want the fans have a good experience. And I will admit something, I usually go on Reddit the next day. Oh, why? Because I think nasty bitches. Well, sometimes it's constructive criticism. Sometimes. And I do want to know, like, is there something we could do better? Was there something we did really wrong or off? And for the most part, everybody that goes has a fabulous time and there's usually FOMO.

Speaker 3:
[14:26] Well, I think you have to realize, like the people that come to these shows, they're not coming for some like award-winning show. They're coming because this is a fucking shit show. The whole thing is a mess and there's always something going wrong and there's always somebody drunk stumbling through the audience or somebody's falling off the stage.

Speaker 5:
[14:42] I think we've done a good job at creating organized chaos.

Speaker 3:
[14:46] Yeah, I mean, it flows, but it's a mess.

Speaker 7:
[14:49] The mics have to be on, the lights have to be on, and then the rest happens, happens.

Speaker 9:
[14:52] And we run on time. I mean, we run that show.

Speaker 5:
[14:55] Well, I was going to bring that up. It's very important to me. Also, it's a weeknight, not just for me, but for also the attendees. We got to be out by a certain time. Everybody, you know, most chumps work. Yeah, not all of them, but most of them work. And we got to get home at a decent, decent hour. So that's why I got to keep it on.

Speaker 9:
[15:13] We accomplish that.

Speaker 5:
[15:14] We do.

Speaker 7:
[15:15] I was thinking about you, Liz, on the how, how was your trip to Phoenix? Because we did send you with a tub with a smoke machine, the light machine, the fog juice, and then and then thousands of dollars in when products and hundreds of pounds of when products.

Speaker 9:
[15:28] I mean, the can and you, I don't know what the plan was, but when it got dropped off the day before by like an Uber driver, I was like, this.

Speaker 5:
[15:36] Sorry, a little person just walked by.

Speaker 7:
[15:38] We were just.

Speaker 9:
[15:39] Michael, Michael, Michael, control yourself.

Speaker 5:
[15:42] Michael, don't do that because it distracts me.

Speaker 7:
[15:44] Michael, put your sunglasses back.

Speaker 3:
[15:46] I'm sorry, I was distracted.

Speaker 10:
[15:48] Speakers in the hallway, so people can hear you. Your best behavior.

Speaker 3:
[15:55] You should have told us that a long time ago.

Speaker 10:
[15:58] Tell us that, Jamison, because now you know, now you've learned. I'm training my environment.

Speaker 3:
[16:03] Do you set the stage that this studio has windows and people are walking by. It's a walkway inside the wind. So that's why we're seeing we're in a fishbowl.

Speaker 5:
[16:10] I had no idea there were speakers out there.

Speaker 3:
[16:12] I didn't either.

Speaker 5:
[16:13] Never. And we've been we've this is our third time here.

Speaker 7:
[16:15] The wind system.

Speaker 3:
[16:16] And there's children walking by.

Speaker 9:
[16:18] Oh, oh, and I cursed. Oh, gosh. OK, now we've got to we've got to watch.

Speaker 5:
[16:21] You got to clean up your language.

Speaker 9:
[16:22] Absolutely.

Speaker 7:
[16:23] He's in a rush.

Speaker 5:
[16:24] It's a family show.

Speaker 9:
[16:25] We're just watching people walk by.

Speaker 5:
[16:27] So what was your question?

Speaker 9:
[16:28] OK, the luggage situation.

Speaker 7:
[16:29] Yeah.

Speaker 9:
[16:30] So it gets dropped off at my house. And one of them literally weighs because it's all the wind product. And remember what I said? Chas Dean, he's the sweetest, most generous guy. I go, you know, first of all, the bag is going to be checked. He's going to do full size product and it's going to weigh 100 pounds. It literally did. So my husband goes, well, what are you going to do? I go, well, I'll just valet the car Burbank and I'll get one of those little trolleys. How hard can it be? I mean, I pull up the guys like three bags. He looks at me because Burbank usually short trips. I'm like, don't judge me. And I get a trolley and I'm like wrangling to get these three things on there. I get to check in at I think I was just doing Southwest and she weighs the first and it's like 115 pounds and she goes, you've got to sort this out. I go to the next one. The next one's like 60 because that's the smoke machine. And I wasn't really even going to check my bag. And I checked my bag. My bag is 30. So now I've got three bags open. You know, I look like a luggage bomb had gone off. I look like a mess.

Speaker 7:
[17:31] I mean, also, the smoke machine looks like suspicious equipment.

Speaker 9:
[17:35] I literally have like very odd looking electronic things in a bag. But I mean, they're looking at me like, OK.

Speaker 3:
[17:41] But how do you get stuck doing this? Because you are a professional woman. You have a serious career and a serious job. How are you becoming everyone's assistant?

Speaker 7:
[17:49] Because she had a 10 a.m. flight. The idea was she's ahead. She's checking the bag. She's unloading to bring the things to the house. We roll in at 330. We're we're going, going, going straight to the venue. So we were not supposed to check bags. The idea was she has everything prepared and ready to go.

Speaker 3:
[18:02] But Shane, by yourself, I think people could have shipped their smoke machine or their product.

Speaker 9:
[18:07] The production van drove there.

Speaker 7:
[18:09] Right. We didn't think about that.

Speaker 5:
[18:11] I know we didn't think about that.

Speaker 9:
[18:13] When they were like on the way home and I'm thinking, I am not taking whatever is left home. And production goes, oh, no, we can take it. We were here the day early. We could have taken it to Vegas, to Phoenix. I go, oh, my.

Speaker 7:
[18:24] We keep it real. The show is real. We don't have the scene.

Speaker 3:
[18:27] Yeah, production doesn't exist.

Speaker 9:
[18:29] No. So then I arrive in Phoenix and I'm having to cart it out in 100 degree weather into a small Uber. I mean, it was just and then that gravel walkway and that that Airbnb you rented. Now I felt like a real housewife because I got there first and I looked around and was like, you could tell the primary suite. So I'm like, obviously that is Jeff and Jamison's love suite. I will leave it alone. I'm not gonna go in there. But then everything else I was like, well, do, I knew Doug needed an own suite. Like he needed a bathroom. Then there was, I was gonna be sharing the bedroom with LeKendra, right? So I was like, we're the only, shut up, Kian. I go, we're the only lays. Like we should have a bathroom. But then I thought, oh, Petrie can pull. They're kind of high maintenance and the dog, maybe they need a bathroom. So I literally texted Chan and go, listen, I'm gonna get ready and I'm not gonna touch any of the bedrooms. I'll just leave my luggage outside. Because I do feel like if I claimed a bedroom, like it might be drama later. And then we basically got the bedroom, LeKendra and I, that was the converted garage. It had no bathroom.

Speaker 7:
[19:33] I had a bathroom right outside the door. But actually I think it did work out because then you had the TV room, that LeKendra.

Speaker 5:
[19:39] We had a screening room.

Speaker 7:
[19:40] Well, why was she going back and forth? Why didn't she just go to bed with you?

Speaker 9:
[19:42] I kept saying, LeKendra, the bed is big enough. I grew up with eight kids in my family. I've shared bedrooms and beds and all that. So I was like, no, it's totally fine.

Speaker 5:
[19:51] You weren't fine when we told you, though, in the conference room that day.

Speaker 9:
[19:54] I am also used to, at the end of an event, unwinding in a hotel room. It's like, no, we're going to go back and there's going to be cameras up and all this and that. I was like, God love chump little slippers that Doug had for us. So it was all fun, but it was a different vibe. So I was like, oh, I got to wrap my mind around this.

Speaker 3:
[20:11] I imagine if you're away from your husband, you want to have your own room and your own space.

Speaker 9:
[20:15] Oh my God, a night off from the snoring? Yes, a hotel room.

Speaker 5:
[20:18] What happened with, so Snow White 90210 had an accident in the green room on the sofa. Did they say anything? I mean, are they gonna require deposits in the future?

Speaker 9:
[20:28] Pet deposits? Maybe no animals allowed.

Speaker 3:
[20:31] Well, there were animals allowed at that house.

Speaker 7:
[20:33] No, and we didn't have an animal at the house.

Speaker 9:
[20:35] No, we did not.

Speaker 5:
[20:36] We had a rat, a little pet rat.

Speaker 3:
[20:39] I'm not saying anything happened.

Speaker 9:
[20:40] God love it, it's barely alive.

Speaker 3:
[20:41] I'm already in trouble with them.

Speaker 5:
[20:43] It's so funny, cause I can say whatever I want.

Speaker 3:
[20:45] I know.

Speaker 5:
[20:46] And then if you say one thing about Patrik and Paul, what happens?

Speaker 3:
[20:50] Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm.

Speaker 5:
[20:51] Why don't you read the last text?

Speaker 3:
[20:52] The last text said, in all capitals, I have no words. And then it was a sad face.

Speaker 7:
[20:58] What have you done, Em?

Speaker 3:
[20:59] Well, just because I don't.

Speaker 5:
[21:00] He piles on.

Speaker 3:
[21:01] No, I just, I just don't believe the, the car accident story or the attack story. So I think because I put that into question, they're mad at me, but I love them.

Speaker 9:
[21:22] Is this? You made a dance mix?

Speaker 1:
[21:26] Oh my God.

Speaker 3:
[21:28] It's the gay dance album of the summer.

Speaker 9:
[21:30] Actually, it's really good.

Speaker 5:
[21:31] It's a summer hit.

Speaker 3:
[21:32] Yeah, it's a buck.

Speaker 9:
[21:33] Close the door, close the door. Lock the door. Actually, that is brilliant.

Speaker 5:
[21:38] We actually, Keon and Jamison have been working on a new promo, which is pretty fantastic. When will that be ready, Keon? Early next week. So I'll let you guys know because you don't want to miss it. It's real good.

Speaker 7:
[21:50] Todd's going to love it on Friday. We should play for him.

Speaker 5:
[21:53] What about Todd's endless questions and requests?

Speaker 9:
[21:55] Nothing was worse than Chump Con with Todd last year. I mean, I mean, he wanted the little people and then he...

Speaker 5:
[22:04] Well, there's one right outside.

Speaker 9:
[22:07] Can we get your number? I got to say, he had this... He wanted to do a disappearing cabinet. He wanted to do a magic trick. You have to understand, we do limit him to like eight minutes. He usually goes to 15. I'm doing the cut signal, wrap it up. Because listen, he's a great hype man. He really does get the audience...

Speaker 5:
[22:26] He runs the light.

Speaker 9:
[22:27] Yes, he gets very excited. But yes, he goes over time typically. So Chump Con last year, he goes, Liz, I've decided I'm going to do, I'm going to come out of a disappearing cabinet. I'm like, what are you talking about? So working with the venue, it was so large, we could not... I don't even know how we were going to get it there. On to stage, off of stage.

Speaker 5:
[22:48] We're going to have you check it. At Burbank Airport.

Speaker 9:
[22:51] Carry on luggage. So they basically were like, well, he's going to be on stage and then to get off stage. He likes a lot of components to his act. And I do think the greatest ad has been LeKendra because it's such added value, bang for the buck. And it's not something that's like a prop. I mean, she really does sing. When she just last...

Speaker 5:
[23:13] He leans on his props.

Speaker 3:
[23:15] But I'm bummed that you guys shut him down with the magic show because I think that would be really fun. And I think that for the next Trump Con, I would like to see him soft.

Speaker 9:
[23:22] Well, you know what I'm happy is not there anymore? The t-shirt gun because he almost killed somebody.

Speaker 3:
[23:27] That was a liability.

Speaker 5:
[23:28] That was going to be a lawsuit.

Speaker 9:
[23:30] Well, some people don't know the first time he shot it off, the whole first part of it came out and almost hit someone in the face.

Speaker 5:
[23:37] He hadn't assembled it properly. So it kind of came apart as he was shooting the, and then he almost hit somebody in the head.

Speaker 3:
[23:44] That was a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Speaker 5:
[23:46] So then now we've got no more t-shirt guns.

Speaker 9:
[23:48] No. And now he just throws them, which is fine. And like I said, he gets the audience all revved up. It's perfect.

Speaker 5:
[23:55] Now I have to tell you, so we were here, we were doing some site visits for a potential, another chump con. And so there was a guy that I had met over 10 years ago through Todd, my brother. And we all know he's had dozens of businesses and we still even today don't even know what he does for a living.

Speaker 7:
[24:14] I'm unclear.

Speaker 5:
[24:16] So this guy, and he's kind of slick this guy, dressed real nice, jewelry.

Speaker 7:
[24:21] Hair's bleached.

Speaker 5:
[24:22] Yeah. And-

Speaker 7:
[24:24] Very Susan Powder, actually.

Speaker 9:
[24:25] Actually.

Speaker 3:
[24:26] It's like a Guido, Guy Fieri kind of mix.

Speaker 5:
[24:28] I met him because he wanted me over a dozen years ago. He wanted me to endorse some sort of tanning salon. Chain.

Speaker 9:
[24:37] That is very on brand.

Speaker 5:
[24:38] Here in Vegas. So they put me up in a beautiful hotel. They took great care of me. The deal didn't come together. So here we are. I see him. I haven't seen him in 12 years. And then Michael, that was a good question. You said, you're like, how do you, first of all, how do you know Rick? I said, well, I know Rick from my brother. And then you asked, well, how did you meet Todd? And he gave the strangest answer. He's like, well, you know, we stuck together. And then you followed up. You said, well, what'd you guys do? What'd you do? What did you work together? He said, you know, some, some, what did he say? Few businesses, productions, films, videos, videos. And then he said, yeah, videos, videos. What videos? What did those two do together?

Speaker 9:
[25:21] Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5:
[25:24] I thought that too, but I didn't want to call him out or embarrass him in front of seven people.

Speaker 9:
[25:29] That is restrained of you. I am shocked.

Speaker 3:
[25:31] He actually looks like somebody who was a former porn star. So I'm not surprised.

Speaker 5:
[25:35] No, I think he's a foreign producer.

Speaker 3:
[25:37] I think he might have been on camera talent. That's the vibe I got from him.

Speaker 7:
[25:41] Some of us blur the lines.

Speaker 9:
[25:42] Investigate Michael, find it out.

Speaker 3:
[25:45] Well, it's just so sketchy.

Speaker 9:
[25:48] Well, we were backstage at Chump Mess, and your brother asked me what was going on with Chump Con. I said, we're just running into a lot of issues. I got the guy for you. I'm going to hook you up with my friend Rick. Rick's going to solve it. Rick's dialed in in Vegas. Rick was so difficult to text with. He never emailed back. I got to tell you, when you said Liz, we're going to Vegas, we're going to be with Rick. I was shocked. I was like, how did this come together? Because I've been texting the guy and he doesn't really respond to me. I thought, oh, I'm the business person. So I thought, oh, all the questions were answered and that's why we're going, right? It's going to make sense. This venue is going to work. Halfway through that walkthrough, I want to strangle you, Jeff. Because I was like, clearly, we did not ask the right questions because right out of the get-go, they did not have the right spaces.

Speaker 5:
[26:37] Can you please defend me?

Speaker 7:
[26:40] The questions were asked, they were answered, we were lied to.

Speaker 9:
[26:43] Okay. Thank you. Because I really was like, this place.

Speaker 7:
[26:47] Don't say the name of it.

Speaker 9:
[26:48] No, I'm not.

Speaker 7:
[26:49] But we did our site visit.

Speaker 5:
[26:51] I went over, Liz, do you think I would just jump on a plane and come to Las Vegas for a night? I was shocked. There was calls, there was emails. Yes, they can accommodate. Yes, they can do this.

Speaker 9:
[27:00] Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 5:
[27:01] What did I say? I said, this sounds a little too good to be true.

Speaker 9:
[27:05] I didn't say that.

Speaker 5:
[27:06] I said, so, but we gotta go check it out because what if it is indeed what he's presenting?

Speaker 3:
[27:11] The problem is we stayed at the Wynn because this has set our standards really, really high.

Speaker 9:
[27:16] It's a beautiful hotel.

Speaker 3:
[27:16] It's a beautiful property. So any other place that we were gonna go to was like, this is not the Wynn.

Speaker 7:
[27:21] I don't care if it's not as nice. We just need a venue.

Speaker 9:
[27:23] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[27:23] Well, that would help.

Speaker 9:
[27:24] The Saturday night show, there really wasn't a space that was gonna work for us.

Speaker 7:
[27:28] Yeah, so to walk through it, we were going, we were at the property with the team, with the guy, with Todd's guy and the team of the hotel. We go to the first space, oh great, that could be fun for cocktail hour. We go to the next space, oh great.

Speaker 5:
[27:38] But there were kind of roadblocks everywhere we went.

Speaker 9:
[27:40] Excuse me, yeah, I agree, because the first space, we're like, this will be awesome for karaoke. Shane's gonna host it.

Speaker 5:
[27:45] Can't do it here.

Speaker 9:
[27:46] Can't do it here. And you know what? The gall of them. We walked in that lobby, the odacity.

Speaker 3:
[27:52] Well, we're never going back there again.

Speaker 9:
[27:53] No, because we walked in, and I gotta say, right from the get go, I was like, we're in trouble, girl, because there was a four-year-old throwing a full-on tantrum in what is kind of a small lobby. So you're kind of like, okay, all right, this is an interesting energy. Vegas, listen, kids come here, it's fine, but we're looking for more of an adult vibe and venue. So this kid is screaming. Right in that same area, there is this bar where we'd have the karaoke, and they're like, well, we can't have loud noise coming out into the lobby. I'm like, what about the four-year-old throwing a tantrum? Our singers, we have Carney Wilson, we have Shane who kills it. We have amazing singers.

Speaker 5:
[28:30] The Tree Can Pole.

Speaker 1:
[28:31] Right.

Speaker 5:
[28:32] Amazing voices.

Speaker 9:
[28:32] Jamison, you would think...

Speaker 5:
[28:34] Lock the door.

Speaker 9:
[28:36] Oh my God. Someone's got to... Lock the door. Judge Lake, you were like, no, no, no. Your lobby would be blessed by this compared to what's going on here. So, all right, Jeff, I give you a pass, because I really was like, what in the world?

Speaker 7:
[28:50] So, okay, so we're doing the walkthrough. We see multiple spaces. We're like, okay, this could work for this, da-da-da, or go into the whole thing. Then after we see the first four spaces, we're like, okay, so what kind of theater, what kind of seat we have for the live show? That'll be all attendees. That'll be all talent. We need our all hands on deck venue. And they looked at us like, oh, live show. You're doing a live show?

Speaker 9:
[29:12] Oh, we didn't know about that.

Speaker 5:
[29:12] What makes that?

Speaker 7:
[29:14] And Liz, we did go through the schedule multiple times. Of course, we were assured that there were spaces for everything.

Speaker 9:
[29:20] Yeah, because he was emailed and texted all that as well.

Speaker 5:
[29:22] The good news is there was, which is, I guess, how I'm trying to justify this in my head, is that there was another option for a venue. And we went to the second site visit. And I was, you know, that was also looking good on paper, but in person, I don't want to stay there. And if I don't want to stay there, I don't want Chump staying there.

Speaker 9:
[29:43] No, because we set the bar, ChumpCon last year, was so fun and fabulous. I mean, if you were not there.

Speaker 5:
[29:49] It was also nice.

Speaker 9:
[29:50] Yeah, you should have FOMO. Resort World, we'll give them a little shot. It turned out great there. But for some reason, they have a whole new team, not going to work this time. Fine. Okay. We still want to do something because we love having a longer versus a one night event, a longer experience for fans. So we are going to have to pivot and figure something else out because we're just not finding that unicorn. Because why would people don't understand, oh, any hotel in Vegas? No, what a lot of hotels, because I've literally talked to every single one here, they want to put us in conference rooms like we're a convention. So you would just go to conference room or ballroom to ballroom, no personality, no vibe. We'd have to create vibe in every single space. That's not really what this is. So it just hasn't worked yet, but we're not giving up on it.

Speaker 3:
[30:37] Well, and the nail in the coffin at the first venue was you saying that the woman was prickly. So I think that we were not going to be invited anyway.

Speaker 5:
[30:46] I don't think she was very nice. I frankly found her to be a bitch.

Speaker 3:
[30:49] And you told them, you had to let them know.

Speaker 5:
[30:52] I just said she was prickly.

Speaker 3:
[30:53] And then she'd been punched in the face.

Speaker 9:
[30:57] Oh.

Speaker 5:
[30:57] She had some sort of black eye. And all I said is, hmm.

Speaker 3:
[31:03] It was a birthmark.

Speaker 9:
[31:05] Yes, but-

Speaker 5:
[31:05] Oh, I thought it was a black eye.

Speaker 9:
[31:06] No, Jeff, it was a birthmark. Okay.

Speaker 3:
[31:10] And you said to the guy, well, she needs to get punched in her other eye.

Speaker 9:
[31:14] He's like trying to balance it out. We're like, no, Jeff, first of all, because she very nicely-

Speaker 5:
[31:19] Don't say that exactly, Michael.

Speaker 9:
[31:20] Actually, it was pretty close.

Speaker 10:
[31:22] Just want to clarify, we are not promoting any kind of abuse.

Speaker 6:
[31:25] I've got absolutely- No, no, no, no.

Speaker 10:
[31:27] Not by us.

Speaker 9:
[31:27] We would never do that.

Speaker 10:
[31:29] We would never do that.

Speaker 9:
[31:30] We wrap up, but some of the team stayed with us. So this should have been a conversation which is called offline. We could have let the rest of the team walk away, but Jeff was already sort of, you know-

Speaker 5:
[31:41] Annoyed.

Speaker 9:
[31:41] You were annoyed.

Speaker 3:
[31:42] You were done.

Speaker 9:
[31:43] Well, because it was so clear-

Speaker 5:
[31:45] Well, they weren't very cooperative or accommodating.

Speaker 9:
[31:48] The other thing was like, we want to maybe have a pool party, and their pool, we were basically going to be put in the kids' pool area.

Speaker 7:
[31:54] Literally.

Speaker 9:
[31:55] We were like, I-

Speaker 7:
[31:56] Open to children.

Speaker 9:
[31:57] You were like, we're just telling you that's probably not the best combos or any other option. Like I said, sometimes when you deal with these large corporations, they're just not malleable. They don't want to bend the rules and make it work. So halfway through it, I was like, why are we here?

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Speaker 7:
[36:55] I mean, those gotta be four inchers.

Speaker 5:
[36:58] With a T-shirt.

Speaker 3:
[37:00] Definitely more than four inches, but thank you.

Speaker 5:
[37:02] I'm just curious, what made you think that was an appropriate look for meeting with event team?

Speaker 3:
[37:08] Okay, so we're going to Vegas. It's hot, it's 97 degrees yesterday, and I think that truthfully, my legs are my best asset right now, and they distract from the rest of my body, so I just figured why not show off the gams, maybe get us a sale, maybe get us a spot.

Speaker 5:
[37:28] So, I said, no, you need to dress appropriately. What do you have in your bag? And so, we had pulled up, I said, you're gonna have to change in the car, because we had pulled up to the first hotel, and you had informed me that you had no underwear on.

Speaker 3:
[37:44] Me and Jason Powder don't wear underwear.

Speaker 9:
[37:46] What a revelation.

Speaker 5:
[37:48] So we got out of the car and closed the door, so you would have privacy. And then we didn't communicate with the driver.

Speaker 3:
[37:55] We forgot.

Speaker 5:
[37:56] And he realized there was still someone in the car. So he walked around and he opened up the door, and we just saw Michael's ass.

Speaker 8:
[38:04] There's two children.

Speaker 5:
[38:05] Sorry kids.

Speaker 7:
[38:07] Ah, face is pressed.

Speaker 5:
[38:09] Sorry kids.

Speaker 3:
[38:09] There's two children watching us.

Speaker 9:
[38:11] Good morning.

Speaker 3:
[38:12] Yes, the driver was trying to be kind and open the door for me to get out, but he didn't realize that I was changing into my pants with no panties on.

Speaker 5:
[38:21] Now, you have a history with Vegas. Your dad loves to gamble. He used to bring you and your sister here. And it sounds like you were left unattended all weekend.

Speaker 3:
[38:28] Sorry, dad. Yes, we used to stay at the Excalibur, and the Excalibur has an arcade on the lower level. So it's a huge arcade, the entire size of the casino underneath is an arcade. So my dad did, back in the day when I think it was a little more safe, he would give us $100 each and let us go to the arcade while he gambled for hours.

Speaker 7:
[38:52] How long would you be down there?

Speaker 3:
[38:53] Hours, hours, hours.

Speaker 9:
[38:56] I mean, did cell phones exist? Were you able to get a hold of your father? Something was going wrong?

Speaker 3:
[39:00] I was like eight, we didn't have cell phones.

Speaker 9:
[39:02] Oh man, that's crazy.

Speaker 5:
[39:04] That's a gambling addiction, right?

Speaker 3:
[39:06] I think he was just trying to have a little fun. He wanted us to have fun as well. So I think he was-

Speaker 5:
[39:11] So you would just be left unattended. I mean, I guess you could do that then, right?

Speaker 9:
[39:15] Yes. I don't know if you could. Yeah, you could. Now I think it's frowned upon. I mean, was your dad a single dad too?

Speaker 3:
[39:22] Yeah, he was a single dad.

Speaker 9:
[39:23] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[39:24] He was just doing his best trying to make money.

Speaker 9:
[39:26] He's like, come on, kids are going on vacation to Vegas.

Speaker 5:
[39:29] Can you explain, so you're almost a 40-year-old man, and you're excited about going to Coachella, and but there's been some hiccups with this.

Speaker 3:
[39:37] Yes. Okay. So I am going to Coachella this year, and I've thought a lot about this because I am going with friends that are my age or older, and I think we have aged out of Coachella. But Austin is a lot younger and he's never been to Coachella. So I thought for his birthday, I would get him passes to Coachella and I would go with him for one last time. Now, the problem is my pass fell through. I was supposed to get a free wristband for the weekend. It fell through. So I've been desperately looking. This year, Coachella is completely sold out, and the prices online are like $5,000 for a VIP wristband. So I randomly happened to find one wristband from a friend who can't come to Coachella, but she lives in Sydney, Australia. So the wristband is in Australia. So she calls me two days ago, and she's like, I'm going to overnight this wristband to you, and I'm going to get it to you. We look into everything. It wouldn't make it in time for me to go. So we just forget it. Another friend randomly calls me, and she's like, I'm in Australia. I'm flying from Australia to LAX.

Speaker 5:
[40:39] Today.

Speaker 3:
[40:39] Today. So she lands at 2:30 p.m. So wait a minute.

Speaker 5:
[40:43] So she got the wristband.

Speaker 3:
[40:45] And so randomly, she would. These people don't even know each other. She was five minutes away from the other girl. So I connected them. She went to her house, got this wristband. Now is on a flight currently to LA to bring this wristband.

Speaker 7:
[40:57] How do you get it from LAX?

Speaker 5:
[40:59] Because we fly into Burbank.

Speaker 3:
[41:01] That's the million dollar question.

Speaker 7:
[41:02] But Michael, his plan was to go straight from here to Palm Springs. He doesn't even have a ticket to LA.

Speaker 3:
[41:06] What's crazy is that it's easier for me to get this wristband from Sydney to Los Angeles than it is to get this wristband from Los Angeles to Palm Springs.

Speaker 7:
[41:14] But for real, if you're a chump in going from LAX to Palm Springs today, can someone, do you have a plan?

Speaker 3:
[41:20] No, I don't. So if there's a chump listening that's going to, that happens to be flying or driving to Palm Springs after 3 p.m. today, I would love you for that.

Speaker 5:
[41:28] So how else would you get this wristband that's going to be arriving at 4 p.m. today at LAX?

Speaker 3:
[41:34] So I was thinking about it this morning. I could change my flight to fly to LAX from here, land at LAX, wait for her to land, get that wristband, and get on another flight from LAX to Palm Springs. Well that just seems a lot of work for a 40 year old man.

Speaker 5:
[41:47] What about, couldn't you just Uber it, like could your friend just put it in an Uber?

Speaker 3:
[41:52] Yes, but because it's Friday traffic, the Uber at five o'clock from LA.

Speaker 5:
[41:57] Will be $5,000.

Speaker 3:
[41:58] It's gonna be $5,000, and it's gonna get there at 10 p.m. So there's no point. So I'm in a predicament.

Speaker 7:
[42:04] So what's the plan like right now?

Speaker 5:
[42:07] Are you not going to Coachella?

Speaker 3:
[42:09] Well the new plan is, so I talked to Austin this morning, he's actually, poor guy, he's like stuck at work, and he's working a ton. So he might have to like not come today, he might have to come tomorrow morning instead. So if that's the case, he will meet up with the friend, get the wristband and bring it. So I have to check with him after radio.

Speaker 7:
[42:25] Or she could Uber from LA to talk.

Speaker 5:
[42:26] Did he really want this for his birthday, or is this something that you wanted?

Speaker 3:
[42:29] You know, the further down the road we're getting, I'm realizing I don't think that he really wanted it. I wanted to show him like a fun experience, but I don't, he's so overwhelmed with work right now that I think this is like the least of his worries.

Speaker 5:
[42:40] That was when Stu got me tickets, wanted to get me tickets to Adele for my birthday. I said, I don't even care about, I mean, now I actually went and loved it, but at the time, I'm like, I don't even like Adele. But then I went and I loved Adele.

Speaker 3:
[42:57] I think he would have fun. I think he would have fun if he came, but I think it's just, you know, it's just weird timing because work is so overwhelming.

Speaker 9:
[43:02] And Coachella is for the young at heart. And you're, I mean, you do so much walking. You don't understand the dust. I mean, if you don't have those VIP wristbands or artist pass, if you're over the age of 25, it ain't for you.

Speaker 3:
[43:15] And I'm realizing that maybe this is the universe telling me I'm too old for this.

Speaker 9:
[43:19] But you're still gonna go.

Speaker 3:
[43:20] I wanna power through it.

Speaker 9:
[43:21] You know, I wanna circle back.

Speaker 5:
[43:22] You need the universe to tell you because we've been telling you.

Speaker 9:
[43:25] Yeah. I wanna circle back. You were not wearing underwear. I always think like, you know, what if something happened on the plane? I mean, you are not wearing, I mean-

Speaker 5:
[43:32] Or an accident. And they had to cut off your jeans.

Speaker 3:
[43:35] Like what would happen on the plane where me not wearing underwear would be a problem?

Speaker 9:
[43:38] I mean, I still, when you see people wearing-

Speaker 5:
[43:40] What scenario are you concerned about?

Speaker 9:
[43:41] Well, you know, when you see people walking to the airport and they're wearing like high heels or flip flops, you're like, man, if something happens, you are just not prepared.

Speaker 5:
[43:48] Right.

Speaker 9:
[43:48] I just feel like-

Speaker 5:
[43:49] A crash is what you're saying.

Speaker 9:
[43:50] I'm trying to, you know, not-

Speaker 5:
[43:51] So you want underwear...

Speaker 9:
[43:52] .reply later today.

Speaker 5:
[43:53] If your plane crashes, you want to be wearing underwear.

Speaker 2:
[43:56] Of course. I think so.

Speaker 3:
[43:56] Like in case they like shit my pants or what do you mean?

Speaker 9:
[43:59] I mean, is that a-

Speaker 2:
[44:00] Yeah, why would you need underwear?

Speaker 5:
[44:03] I understand needing, you know, shoes, right? Sensible shoes to climb down the wing. But why would we need underwear?

Speaker 9:
[44:10] Because what if they rip? What if something happens and you're just having to run naked for your life?

Speaker 7:
[44:14] Or what if you pee a little bit?

Speaker 5:
[44:16] Right.

Speaker 7:
[44:17] I wear underwear all the time.

Speaker 5:
[44:19] Me too.

Speaker 7:
[44:19] I can't relate.

Speaker 5:
[44:20] Me too. I couldn't imagine not wearing underwear.

Speaker 3:
[44:22] It's hit or miss for me. Sometimes I wear them, sometimes I don't.

Speaker 7:
[44:25] Are you wearing them right now?

Speaker 3:
[44:26] Nope.

Speaker 9:
[44:27] Wow, with jeans. Okay. And you had those jeans on yesterday.

Speaker 8:
[44:32] Michael, what about when you wear a suit?

Speaker 10:
[44:36] Do you wear, because that fabric is usually so thin. Do you wear underwear with a suit?

Speaker 3:
[44:40] If it's thin fabric, I usually wear underwear because you just don't want to give a free show.

Speaker 9:
[44:44] Lucy Goosey?

Speaker 10:
[44:45] VPL.

Speaker 3:
[44:46] Yeah, no.

Speaker 9:
[44:46] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[44:47] Like Rick? Like Rick. Rick was given the show yesterday.

Speaker 9:
[44:52] Very tight. His suit was one of those suits. His suit was tight. So like the leg was like kind of up high. I don't know. Like that's just a look.

Speaker 5:
[45:00] So now we're getting all these calls like, come to New York, come to Nashville, come to Dallas. So I think it doesn't look like a chump con is going to be happening this year, but we are going to probably do the Chumpmas event at the Brea Improv, correct Liz, in December.

Speaker 9:
[45:16] Yeah, we'll do that again. You know I pushed you to go to the East Coast, but you always, it's sort of like, you're awesome because you bring all these chumps. And so the cost, it's not like a normal stand-up comic or a solo performer where the overhead is low. I mean, Jeff spends a lot of money to produce these shows, and I think people maybe don't understand that. So by the time you travel to New York and take a whole team with you, it's like, you know, you have a fortune. Yeah, you gotta balance it out.

Speaker 3:
[45:45] Don't count it out though, because I think like, there are some East Coast chumps that would be great. There's some other chumps that are on the East Coast often.

Speaker 5:
[45:51] We've looked at it many times, the numbers haven't made sense.

Speaker 9:
[45:54] I mean, there are also chumps within our world that would just be in New York too, if you wanted them there. So, it would work out.

Speaker 5:
[46:00] I think what's realistic is that we possibly do two chumpmas shows in Brea like we did last year. I think between now and then, we could do a couple close live shows, right? Like San Francisco, San Diego. I think that's probably what's going to be realistic, just to kind of manage everyone's expectations.

Speaker 9:
[46:19] Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5:
[46:20] The other thing too that you need to announce, Shane, is I am getting so many DMs about the projector that I bought when Jamison and I shared that wonderful, beautiful, romantic night in Phoenix.

Speaker 9:
[46:35] That was not what I envisioned. When I saw Jamison's post about it, I envisioned something a little more celestial.

Speaker 5:
[46:43] It was. Did you do a video or did you do just a photo?

Speaker 10:
[46:47] I did a post, but Shane, if you want to send me the link, I'll put it on my Instagram.

Speaker 7:
[46:51] I will. It's very low tech. That's the thing people don't get. I just Googled night time projector. It's the first in the cup.

Speaker 5:
[46:56] Yeah, but it's the same brand we keep buying.

Speaker 7:
[46:58] It's called One Fire, O-N-E-F-I-R-E, one word. One Fire Girls Toy Projector. And it's $20 on Amazon.

Speaker 9:
[47:08] Yeah, I thought it looked a little honestly juvenile. It is.

Speaker 7:
[47:11] It's for children. It's for babies.

Speaker 5:
[47:12] It's for me.

Speaker 3:
[47:14] I know, but I thought it was for me, of course.

Speaker 9:
[47:15] That's what I thought. It was going to be something a little more astrological, accurate.

Speaker 5:
[47:22] It rotates 360 degrees. And then also you have different themes. So I can do a butterfly. I can do mermaid. I can do a gifts princess.

Speaker 7:
[47:32] I'm looking at the Amazon right now. It says for girls aged four to six.

Speaker 9:
[47:37] That's well what it looks like.

Speaker 3:
[47:38] Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 7:
[47:40] I have to tell you, I'm sorry, 40 to 60.

Speaker 10:
[47:43] As I would kind of like turn over in the middle of the night, I'd open my eyes. I'd be like, this is actually very sweet.

Speaker 5:
[47:49] I love it.

Speaker 10:
[47:49] It was sweet. I have an example of it in my recap at Hey, Jamison Scala. You can take a look if you want to see what it looks like.

Speaker 9:
[47:58] That's where I saw it.

Speaker 3:
[47:58] Did you ever have to use the bathroom with the open bathroom?

Speaker 10:
[48:02] Yeah, but I begged Jeff not to come in and he did it.

Speaker 5:
[48:06] I respected you.

Speaker 10:
[48:07] And I appreciated that. Thank you.

Speaker 5:
[48:08] But I think honestly, if you want to sleep well at night, you do a sound machine, you do the projector and a Venus CBD.

Speaker 7:
[48:16] Oh, that's the trifecta.

Speaker 5:
[48:17] And you're gold. You're golden.

Speaker 9:
[48:19] I have been heavy on the Venus CBD lately because my husband, I don't know what has happened. The snoring is so out of control that if I don't knock my ass out. Oh, sorry, beep. Put the kid down the hallway. Beep. After the fact.

Speaker 7:
[48:35] Oh, Jeff Fina, one word.

Speaker 9:
[48:37] Oh my gosh. We're not doing a sales commercial right here. I'm just saying the reality truly is unless I, and I don't want to drink a bunch of Chardonnay, like I'm a 1970s housewife. Like I really just am trying to.

Speaker 7:
[48:49] You also do that.

Speaker 3:
[48:50] If you have to sleep in a bed with your colleagues.

Speaker 9:
[48:52] It's more sunsare now, it's sunsare not Chardonnay.

Speaker 5:
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