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Speaker 1:
[01:32] Hey y'all, it's Lindsie. I just wanted to hop on here really quick before the episode starts and let you guys know that this was recorded prior to any recent events. So if you're listening and feel like something isn't being addressed, that's simply because of the timing. I'm gonna be taking the time that I need to process some of these things and handle it in the right way, and I really appreciate you guys giving me that space. I will be speaking more on everything soon, and I just appreciate your love and support more than you know. It truly means everything to me. Maybe I'm just like weird, maybe I'm crunchy.

Speaker 4:
[02:05] This is The Southern Tea with Lindsie Chrisley.

Speaker 1:
[02:07] I think it's so funny when you get Christmas cards and all of these people write their children's accomplishments on the back. I don't love them.

Speaker 4:
[02:15] A southern girl and a boy mom who's trying to navigate life while staying true to her roots.

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[02:20] I am a functioning, non-functioning human being right now.

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[02:24] Join Lindsie each week as she swears to spill the tea, the whole tea and nothing but the tea. That is the tea. Here's Lindsie.

Speaker 1:
[02:35] Good morning and welcome back to another episode of The Southern Tea. I'm really excited about today's episode because I feel like this is something that we all need, especially if you're a mom, if you're overwhelmed or you just feel like you've kind of lost yourself a little bit. I'm sitting down with Dr. Sue Morter. She's an expert in bioenergetics, meditation and all things energy. And before you tune out and think this is going to be super woo woo, it is actually not. This is very much about how you show up in your real life. She talks a lot about how we hold stress, emotions and just life in our bodies and how to actually work through that instead of just pushing through like most of us do. She also has a book called The Anatomy of Awakening. And today we're gonna get into how to break out of those cycles where you feel stuck, overwhelmed or just not like yourself and how to start feeling like a human again, even if your life is chaotic. So if you're running on empty, mentally checked out or just feel off, this one's for you. Good morning, Dr. Sue, and welcome to The Southern Tea Podcast. I'm so excited you're here. How are you?

Speaker 5:
[03:40] I'm thrilled to be here. I'm excellent, absolutely feeling great today. And we just got some great news about our new book that we just launched this week that we hit number one in self-help on the USA Today.

Speaker 1:
[03:56] How amazing, congratulations.

Speaker 5:
[03:59] So it's hard to have a rough day when something like that unfolds.

Speaker 1:
[04:03] For sure. I was really excited about hosting you on the podcast because I feel like this is a conversation that so many women, especially moms, really need. And I don't know a lot about what you do, so I'm excited to really dive in. I want to start simple. Can you tell us what bioenergetics actually is and how does it work?

Speaker 5:
[04:28] You bet. So it's really what the word says, bio means body, energetics means energy flowing through our body. And everyone has actually already experienced bioenergetics in their life, but they didn't know it. If you've ever worried yourself into a stomach ache or overthought something into a headache or those kinds of things created tension in your body over what's going on in your life, then you've experienced what happens when we interrupt the natural flow of energy within our system. So that energy built our body in the womb and it continues to run and heal and allow our body to flourish. It's the movement of this electromagnetic energy through the body. It's also like what acupuncture, if you think about, they put the needles in and it routes the energy through an area that was blocked. It's that sort of a thing except we're not using needles. We're actually teaching people how to move the energy with their awareness, with their mind and most importantly, teaching people how to not interrupt the energy flow in the first place, to operate in a way that is a little more free and flowing in life.

Speaker 1:
[05:40] You sound like you were describing my life. You've worked yourself into a stomach ache. Yeah, that's literally the story of my life every day. I would just love to know how you actually got into this, and what was the moment that you were like, okay, something's not working here?

Speaker 5:
[05:58] Sure. So interesting. I was born into a family where my father was a pioneer in energy medicine, where he was working with these very principles. So I was raised with these practices in my household. In fact, it's the only health care that I've ever personally received. I've never gone to the doctor and gotten an antibiotic to heal an issue or to fix something. I know how to move the energy through my system. So whenever I would get sick or get the flu or bronchitis or whatever as I was growing up, the whole idea was to move the energy through the body and I would heal. And so then as I got older and I graduated, opened my own clinic and started treating patients, I began to develop headaches. And so I knew better, right? Like I grew up with this stuff and I should know how to prevent this, but there was something that was really trying to surface in me and I was just, you know, and this is what we do. We push it down, we suppress our truth, we try to fit in, do the right thing and so forth. And so energy was backing up in my system and creating, you know, this excess energy in my head. So I was getting headaches. So I went to learn to meditate because I knew that meditation had helped a lot of people with headaches. And I started having transcendental experiences instantly. Not just, you know, to relieve my headache, not only that happened, but I actually started waking up in ways, having all these experiences that were inexplainable through, you know, modern science and the way that things were operating. And this was back in the year 2000. So 26 years ago, it was really profound. I wasn't trying to become enlightened or work toward, you know, something and conscious. I didn't even know that that was an option. I just started having these experiences that were literally other worldly. And so that was definitely a moment that changed my life and set me into researching what that could be and how it can influence our mental health, our emotional health and our physical health. And come to find out, it impacts them all. So.

Speaker 1:
[08:14] Did you grow up in a household, like, and you're raising because of your dad's work, that there was like a belief that they didn't want to tap into modern medicine?

Speaker 5:
[08:25] You know, it wasn't so much like a religious type of belief, you know, where there are some religions that are, you know, that, but it was more a, an opportunity for the body's natural healing ability to take place. Because the more you allow it to take place, the stronger your immunity gets and the stronger your system becomes, and we're built and designed to be able to self-heal. And if we're not self-healing, there's a reason. And so my father's research took him into trying to figure out what was the reason that people didn't heal. And why did they heal when they did? And what were the environments internally that we could generate that would allow the body to more easily start to self-heal? And, you know, as it turns out, a lot of the new science today is showing us, quantum science is showing us, that our disposition, our beliefs, our whole come from in life will ultimately determine how our genes express, how our immune system then responds, how our body chemistry is orchestrated. It has very much to do with the amount of time we spend in an anxiety state versus a creative state. And so my father's research and then my work took on this disposition of, well, let's figure out how to teach people how to be grounded in a way that they're not reacting to every little thing that happens in life, because there are so many things that happen in life. And recently, we know there's a lot that happens in life in a day's time, and lots of opportunity to get really derailed. And so our focus has been to drop in and allow people to learn how to breathe in ways that moves the energy in their system, in the way that their energy system was designed to be flowing. And it allows for this self-healing regulatory manner to establish itself again, and to really solve our allergies and asthma and ulcers and digestive issues and respiratory problems, et cetera. So we can do things about it before we reach to medicines, if the medicines aren't working well for someone or if they just don't want to be on so many medications, then we start working in these other ways.

Speaker 1:
[10:52] So it's interesting that you say that because probably while my life's been pretty diabolical over the last five years, but when I was pregnant was probably the most Zen time ever and I never really thought about bringing the energy from a pregnant woman to a child. I never thought about that until you said that.

Speaker 5:
[11:14] So fascinating. Yes. So we have an energy field that we're generating and cultivating and nurturing or we're allowing it to just run crazy and wreak havoc on our system. And it of course has an influence on the developing embryo within the womb. And, you know, I always like to remind mothers that are pregnant and they're going through stressful times to realize that that little soul knew what it was doing. It landed in the right place. It can handle this. And so it is part of that individual's, their soulful contracts, if you will. It's what they're here to overcome or to master or whatever, and not to feel guilty that, you know, you should have handled it differently or anything along those lines. It's, there's sort of a divine design to how this energy flows, not only through the physical human system, but really interplanetarily there is an energy flow. The earth has her own energy field and receives influence from the planets surrounding our whole system. There's literally a mathematical system that falls into place that allows for the right energies at the right time. I call it divine right timing that will unfold if we just allow ourselves to trust what is happening and not judge ourselves and not judge the situation, but to just simply learn how to become present with whatever is happening or whatever we would love to have be happening in our lives. It works both ways. It's not just about getting okay with the hard times. It's also about really being generative and creative regarding the good times, the visions that we would love to have unfold in our lives. We can have an influence there as well.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 5:
[16:26] Oh my gosh, absolutely. Well, the migraine headaches I started getting that sent me off to learn to meditate really started the whole thing. And so I definitely had to get a handle on. What was happening for me is I started worrying about my patients. I would drive home at night worrying that, you know, that Sally wasn't going to listen to what I was saying and she wasn't going to get a handle on it fast enough to prevent something. And so my hands started, you know, white knuckle on the steering wheel on my way home at night. And I started realizing, you know, God Sue, you know, you have to chill out. There's only so much you can do. You know, you can offer the answers and you can suggest things and you can offer treatments and someone's either going to lean in to really loving themselves more and listening and embracing these ideas or they are not. And you have to just know that you do a good job if you show up and do your part. And so I was talking to myself, you know, while I'm driving home every night, just trying to get a handle and get a grip on this. And so it was so transformative for me to have these experiences in meditation. Not that somebody has to have experiences in meditation in order to change their lives, but it had that effect on me where I realized, wait a second, there's something bigger happening here. And here I am with a deep desire to be in service to people. I've gone to school, you know, became a doctor, opened a clinic, I'm helping people. So this is happening in my life for a reason and there's something I'm supposed to do to help people really put some pieces together that will help them really transcend more and more life experiences. And so my life hasn't been perfect since then. Of course, you know, I've had relationships that ended and job choices that I had to make because I started being called to go out and be a teacher. And as it turned out, you know, that was definitely my calling. It was what I was supposed to be doing, but it was a difficult decision to make when, you know, I had these patients that were depending on me and that was what I had thought my life was going to be. And so finding my best friend to come into the clinic and, you know, take over, all of that took time and an orchestration and I know that everyone who has issues in their lives that we're trying to deal with, we have to just recognize that when we get this energy flowing, we begin to become lucid and clear and we feel capable. And so we remain creative in our thinking instead of becoming fear-based in our thinking and freaking out and shutting down and becoming overly emotional and stressed and generating chemistries in the body as a byproduct of that, that further the issue and dysregulate the nervous system and cause us to get stuck in fight or flight instead of being able to move up and down in and out of those states as is appropriate. You know, it's appropriate for us to jump into fight or flight. If there actually is a bear in the room, we have to be able to run away. But we're supposed to then, as soon as we are safe, come back down out of that. But what happens in our lives today is that the bears aren't real, but they're imagined bears, or they're work bears, or relationship bears, or physical injury bears, or you name it, or three kids under the age of six bears. It's a lot. So our nervous systems just get sort of locked into this way of being that isn't healthy long term. It's designed for some short term issue that we then balance out. So we have ways of balancing that nervous system back to its ready state to move in either direction, depending on what is needed. Because when the bear is gone, we're supposed to drop down in and start healing and filtering and cleansing and detoxifying.

Speaker 1:
[20:02] But it's hard to do that. It's really hard to be able to do that because when you're at such a high level of anxiety and anxiousness, it's so hard to retrain your brain. And I have a ton of questions about meditation because I probably need to be doing it. How did you incorporate that into daily practice of your life? And what exactly does that look like for you?

Speaker 5:
[20:27] So, you know, what I'm doing is working with people and teaching them how to not live in their heads, but to live down in their bodies. That when they have a felt sense of energy deeper in their core, there's an automatic activation of the other part of the nervous system, the one that calms us down. When we are dropping down into the body and breathing in the belly, for instance, instead of breathing in the chest, we automatically start calming the system down. It just happens automatically. And when we slow our breath down, it slows down our mind. So if we're just like ruminating on something and we're thinking of all the worst-case scenarios and trying to figure out what did they mean and what's that going to do and what should I do, that thing puts us up into our head and activates the stimulus response survival instincts. And when we start breathing slower and dropping down in our body and breathing deeper below that, like in the navel, back in the belly area instead of up in the chest, it starts to activate the parasympathetic nervous system, which is the one that calms us down automatically. And so when we slow down the mind by slowing down the breath, it creates more spaciousness between our thoughts. And when there's spaciousness between our thoughts, wisdom can rise. But when we're thinking really quickly, we move our alpha brain state into a beta state or a gamma state, where we're really just like, yeah, you know, just pedal to the metal. And so when we drop down into a slower, more open, spacious state in the brain, what begins to happen is billions of bits of information that are coming into this system from the cosmos, truly from, we're bombarded by billions of bits of information every millisecond. But it's not the kind of information that makes us go crazy, like overwhelm. It's the kind of reassuring presence that happens when we're in nature, walking in the trees, sitting by the ocean, being near a babbling brook, being with pets. Those kinds of states of our disposition allow us to receive and exchange with nature in a way that our energy system is designed to. And so by breathing in your belly, it sounds like so simple, but it truly makes a difference. As a start, it's a great place for people to just start. And then there are more things that I work with all the time with people to teach them how to anchor themselves in their body, instead of them just migrating back up into their heads and overthinking again. And so there's ways to anchor ourselves in the core of the body. And if we have time for some practices or something today, I can certainly share those.

Speaker 1:
[23:19] Oh my gosh, please. I feel like I've started my practice. They talk about breathing from your belly when you go to Pilates. And I'm like, I am ready for Dr. Sue. Like I'm going to become a meditator. And I love this so much. I do want to ask you one question. What do you think the most common thing that people get wrong about energy work? Because when I was reading through some of your stuff, I'm like, okay, this sounds like really intimidating. And I don't know if you talk about any of this in your book. So if so, we can reference that as well.

Speaker 5:
[23:51] Sure. Yeah, because it seems intimidating because we're not used to talking about it. That's all. It's just a new part of us that we're learning about, that science is really opening up to. And because it's natural, your body automatically migrates toward what we're talking about. It automatically wants to do what we're showing it how to do. It was built to do what we're showing it how to do, but we've overused our mind and revved ourselves up into living in our heads all the time. And instead of trusting our guts and being in touch with that deep wisdom inside of all of us, we are running on a totally different set of circuits. And so now we start reading about energy medicine and these kinds of things, and we're like, I don't really understand it. I don't know what you're talking about. And that's why I started the conversation with saying, you know, actually, you do know what I'm talking about. Because if you've ever worried yourself into a stomach ache, you know that the way we use our mind affects our body and it affects our life. And so when we start just really, really simplifying this and allowing ourselves to relax, not asking our mind to do all the work, but allowing the mind and the body and the breath to work together, what begins to happen automatically is we have a, a deeper sense of self. We feel relief and release automatically. We feel like, oh my gosh, I can, I can do this. It's sort of like what somebody says when they say, you know, I just need to sleep on this. You know, I can't really make a decision right now. I just need to sleep on it. The reason they need to sleep on it is because their mind is working too hard. And when we go to bed and we go to sleep, that part of the conscious mind shuts down and the subconscious and our internal wisdom and our innate intelligence answers the questions. And we get up the next day and we're like, you know, here's how I feel that I need to act on this situation. Here's my decision. And we feel better about it because it's coming from the deep core truth of who we are. And so the work that I'm doing is really just teaching people how to do that without having to go lay down, without having to go to sleep, because we can operate in this way on an ongoing basis all day long and end up feeling like we have answers. We don't need to know ahead of time. We don't need to control people and situations so that we feel safe. We're going to be safe and feel and be comfortable no matter what goes down. And when we start to develop that kind of a disposition, and yes, this is what my new book is all about, when we sort of begin to develop that type of disposition, it automatically plugs us into a true way of being that we're in charge of our lives again, that we actually have some say over the kind of day we're going to have, no matter what goes on at work, and no matter what goes on with the family, or no matter what goes on with friendships, if there's a rough bump in the road, we have the bandwidth to handle it, rather than reacting to it and spinning out again into that fight or flight disposition that we all do so well.

Speaker 1:
[27:03] It's so interesting that you said about the gut and then the brain, because I just started a new trauma therapist as of this last weekend, and she was talking about the gut, and I feel like I never really thought about it before. I'm always like, just think with your head, it's not going to lead you wrong. No, that leads you wrong most of the time.

Speaker 5:
[27:26] Well, there certainly can be a lot of fear associated with our thoughts because we're governed by some basic beliefs. For instance, if somebody has a belief that they're not smart or that they're not enough or that they don't belong, then everything that we try to think of or try to do is filtered through that belief system. And so we start proving, here's how the subconscious works, it wants to be right. So it would rather recreate misery than to be wrong because its job is to keep us safe. So it's hyper vigilant on keeping us safe. So if we think that we're inadequate, then our subconscious is literally going out to prove it every day. It's sorting out in the world, it's looking for evidence that yes, in fact, I am inadequate. Yes, in fact, I don't measure up. Yes, in fact, it's true. And it's not, it's just the belief that we're running on that makes us pull those experiences out of all the possible experiences that could happen in the world. We pull the ones toward us that are proving the beliefs that we carry. So, it really becomes about, okay, we've got to develop some strong, beautiful beliefs about ourselves and anchor that in our subconscious memory so that when the subconscious is going out on our day with us as we go, it's sorting for evidence of our greatness. It's sorting for evidence of our beautiful, compassionate selves. It's sorting for the evidence of us being capable and brilliant and the answer in so many ways to what's going on in our world because we've all been living in our heads and we all need to bring a little bit more heart and a little bit more wisdom to the circumstances that we engage in if we really want things to shift and we want people to relax around us and we want to have kindness revealing again in the world in ways that, you know, it has pretty much been, you know, dramatically altered in recent years. So, for sure. Yeah. So it's reframing.

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Speaker 5:
[31:38] So I'm going back in time to a time when I was freaked out and I'm going to give myself some advice, okay? All right, I'm going to say that all you need to do is drop down in your body and breathe in your belly and stretch open your solar plexus, which is where your ribs splay apart, and allow that stomach that's in knots right now to unfold and to stretch open. And then take a breath into your chest from there and exhale down into the earth when you exhale. Because when you do that, you're going to start to feel comfortable again. You're going to start to feel grounded and connected in ways that you haven't. You're not right now. And so just know, I would say, chill out. It's going to be fine. All you have to do to get to that state of fineness is to start to do some of the practices that you're going to learn. I wouldn't have known them at the time, or I wouldn't have been stressed out. So if I was stressed out, it was because I didn't know those practices yet. And so I would start teaching them. So like I said, if we get...

Speaker 1:
[32:43] And how long does that last? If someone was trying to do that, how long are we doing that?

Speaker 5:
[32:49] Okay, so what I'm really showing people how to do, which I haven't really been... We haven't done it yet, but I'm just talking about it. But once we do this practice, I'm really encouraging people to live this way all the time, to breathe in the ways that I'm talking about so that it's always creating a disposition of you not living in your protective or your performing personality. Instead, you're dropping in to your true, authentic, essential, even soulful self. And as long as we sit there, it's going to work, if you will. And so we can sit there and live there and breathe there. And then when a big stress comes up, people pop up into their heads again and they try to deal with that. But the longer you do this, the more neurocircuitry you build to maintain and sustain this disposition, no matter what goes on, no matter what comes up in your day. And so it becomes a way of living, a way of breathing every day. So it's not just something that you do when there's a stressful problem. You are certainly reminded to do it even more when there's a stressful problem. But the invitation is for people to be proactive, which would be sort of like preventative. But we're not doing it just so that we can prevent stress responses. We're doing it because it feels better to live that way. And I just choose that for myself. Because if we walk around trying to do things to prevent problems, we're actually at a subconscious level dialing into the idea of problems all the time. And we're trying to stay away from them. But it's sort of like, you can't really try to stay away from thinking of something. If I say, don't think about a purple elephant, everybody thinks about a purple elephant. And they try not to think about the purple elephant, but it's already there. So the same thing is true with our stresses, et cetera, or trying to prevent stress. It's like, no, no, no. We are deserving of something so much more. We are deserving of a life that is based in permission granted and a flow to your life that is supported. Nature wants us to be successful and joyful and sharing and interactive and creative. That's our true design. And so if we're not experiencing ourselves or life that way, then we've stepped out of this system that I'm talking about. We're driving it in a different way than the car was meant to be driven. And so that's why it breaks down and stresses out.

Speaker 1:
[35:21] Well, let's say in a hypothetical situation, somebody listens to this podcast or somebody read your book and they're like, that's the journey that I want to go on in life, but they're surrounded by people who are like, well, I'm not going to go on that journey. Can that work?

Speaker 5:
[35:36] Oh, you bet. In fact, we have practices right inside the book that are designed for that because people will, as we grow and develop, and maybe we've been married for 10 years or maybe we've been married for 5 years, and we're feeling the desire that there's something more for me. And maybe our spouse is like, I'm fine, I'm good. I don't need you to change. Please don't. And so we have to find ways to develop our own destiny on our own. So we don't have to surround ourselves by people who agree or thinking the same way, as of course it's always lovely. And we have an amazing community that has been doing this work for many, many years, that are always available and interested in meeting new people and embracing people, you know, in ways that are so welcomed when we realize that it's time for me to make some changes in my life. But there are practices in the book where you can be sitting at the dinner table and you can be in a conversation with someone who is challenging, you know, you or there's an argument or there's a potential argument, you feel it coming or what have you. And there is a specific practice that we can do that allows us to draw our energy back within ourselves instead of it being, you know, inadvertently given away, which we do, we give our power away and because we care. But we are used to just giving our power away. And so I'm teaching people how to draw that energy back inside without shutting down or shutting the person away. You're still having the conversation, but your attention is coming back inward on to you at the same time, so that these little packages of energy are gathering inside your core and it's developing a sense of self, one that will not be scattered again. So if you just, if everyone just imagined right now that the doorway to the room that you're in, somebody walked into that doorway that triggers you, right there. And they stand in the doorway, there they are, and all of a sudden your energy just goes over there. We rush our energy onto the situation because we're automatically checking out to see what's going to happen now, I got to be ready, etc. And if we notice that that feels really lousy inside, but if we secretly, just stealthily, quietly, privately, just pull that energy back into ourselves, breathe in our belly, let our hearts feel warmed by bringing our own essence back onto us. The person can still be standing in the doorway. They can ask you a question or they can be sitting across the dinner table from you. They can be saying what they're saying, but you're not getting reactive because you're not just holding your mouth shut. You're coming into yourself and really discovering a version of you that you were so easily giving away and you didn't even know it. So we begin to truly develop a sense of self and sovereignty and independence. And we can still love people, but we don't have to give ourselves away. We don't have to empty ourselves in order to be caring and kind and compassionate. In fact, we'll be stronger and better able to help other people if we don't just disperse and splat and give everything we have away before we even integrate it and embody it for ourselves.

Speaker 1:
[39:01] That's so true.

Speaker 5:
[39:02] By doing so, it changes everything.

Speaker 1:
[39:04] I feel like a lot of us are just kind of running on autopilot in life. When you're saying, feel your energy, what does that actually look like in a real life? We're talking, I'll just give some examples, like between school drop-offs or work or relationship stuff or everything else that we have going on, what does that look like?

Speaker 5:
[39:27] There are some anchor points that I always teach people to do that are helping people to stay in their body instead of living up in their head. But the moment that the kids get out of the car and they're out into the school and you're doing your thing and you're waiting for the traffic to move and you've got a bunch of things you got to do today and here it is, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, that if first things first, bring all your energy back on to you. Don't leave it on the school grounds. Don't leave it at the back there at home or back at work. Just bring it on to you. Literally, call your energy back on to you and breathe in your belly. It seems weird, but it would happen if you just invited that to happen. It just, it does that. It follows your direction. And so when we're always thinking and worrying about other people and things and situations, all of our energy goes on to those other people and situations instead of that energy staying on the self. And so when we call it back on to the self, it allows for something new to start to happen inside the system. So that's the first thing. And then take belly breaths. And the next thing we can do is take a breath from above your head and breathe right down through the top of your head. It sounds really weird. But breathe right through the center of your brain, through your throat, through your chest, all the way down into your belly, as if you're just drawing breath down into your body, inhaling. And then when you exhale, exhale down through the tailbone and into the earth. Even if you're driving the car, you can do this. And if you're blow drying your hair, or if you're cooking dinner, or whatever you're doing. And then the next thing you would do is inhale from the earth, right up through the tip of the spine, right up into your belly, into your core, just below your heart. And then exhale up through the heart and your throat, and the center of your brain and out the top of your head. So it's called a central channel, and it's an ancient Eastern culture tradition, dealing with the Shashumana, which is this river of life that goes down through the core of us. And so it's a way of you beginning to trace this energy up and down through your system. It activates different levels of consciousness, the chakra centers, all kinds of things along those lines, and starts to integrate them. And as a byproduct of that, we start to access our creativity, our potency, our power, our loving ability, our ability to forgive something, our ability to speak our truth. All of these things start to come online. And so again, I just want to repeat this. If you take a breath from above your head and just breathe it right down behind your eyes, in through your throat, right into your heart, all the way down to your belly, big belly breath, and then exhale right down through into the earth, and then inhale up from the earth, like two feet into the earth or deeper even than that, and breathe right up into the pelvic floor, right through the tip of the spine, into the belly, and then exhale up through the heart, through the chest, and through the center of the brain and out the top of the head. It starts to route this energy in an amazing way that starts the healing process in the body. And that takes us out of fight or flight and allows us to start to heal and filter and cleanse and to regenerate new ways of being. And it gives us a sense of comfort that is more true about us than the one who is just all caught up in your schedule or your commitments or the things that you have to do before the day is done. And so, when we're operating this way, all things begin to shift. We begin to become more masterful and make decisions that allow us to sustain these sensations rather than feeling like we're at the whim of everybody else. You know, the whim of come what may. And so...

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 5:
[45:06] I don't know, is most of your audience, do they listen or do they watch this? Because I have some images I could put up that they could see.

Speaker 1:
[45:17] Well, we can do both. We can do both. If you have images, then we'd love to have them.

Speaker 5:
[45:23] There's something right here that if you look on the screen behind me, can you see these anchor points in the body and these anchor points over here? Can you see that as well?

Speaker 1:
[45:36] I can't see that one. I can see this one on this side.

Speaker 5:
[45:38] Okay. That's probably won't work then, if it's going to be set up with side by side. But basically, we can take this one and say that there are these points along the central core of your body, that if you contract the muscles in those areas, and I can teach you how to do that right now, just gently, what happens is it keeps us anchored in the body. You can do this all day long. You don't have to set aside an hour to practice this. You can do this while you're working at the computer. So the one that's here at the base of the spine is called mula banda. You don't have to know how to pronounce it in order to do it. It's sort of like a Kegel exercise. So you contract the muscles in the pelvic floor.

Speaker 1:
[46:23] I wasn't about to ask you that, but I didn't want to offend you.

Speaker 5:
[46:26] No, no, it sort of is that. And so if you have male listeners, you're about to learn what a Kegel exercise is, and you know, ladies, you might very well know this, but I'm going to go through it. In the muscles of the perineum, in the pelvic floor, you just squeeze those muscles gently. It's sort of the muscles that, if you were going to the bathroom and you had to stop the stream quickly, you would squeeze certain muscles to do that. Those are the muscles to squeeze. So you squeeze them, not like with everything you've got, but maybe do that and then relax it by one half. And then right there is a great amount of contraction to really practice this. And then later, you wouldn't even have to squeeze it that much because you're going to learn where these places are in the body. They keep you anchored there. So I promise you this, ladies, if you, or gentlemen as well, if you're driving down the street after you dropped your kids off and now you're starting to think about that argument that you had yesterday or this thing that's deadline at work or whatever it is, you're going to start feeling tension in your body. And if you squeeze mula bandha, if you squeeze this area, it's going to draw your energy out of your head only and distribute it down through your body more appropriately. And it activates your deep wisdom because your deep wisdom is about, you know, just a few inches above that, is the wisdom center in the body, just below the navel. So if we're anchoring in this way and breathing in the belly, we're stimulating the energies that would ultimately be interpreted as a wise gut feeling, that deep knowing, that hunch, that small still voice deep within us. It's real. It's a very real part of us to activate. So squeezing that Kegel exercise is called Moolabanda, is an ancient practice in Eastern culture that was used to keep people in their body when they were learning to meditate so that they could benefit from the things that they could experience in during meditation, that they would bring it back here into their life and be able to live into those things. So the next one is if you roll your shoulders up and back and down and then squeeze your shoulder blades toward each other and drop them down your spine, okay? Now take a belly breath. What it does is it fills this space in the front side of the body and it's anchoring you on the back side of the body. So your blades are together and down. Now squeeze that Kegel exercise, that Moolabanda exercise and your blades at the same time and it sort of opens up this whole belly, this whole belly region right in here.

Speaker 6:
[48:57] Yeah, you can feel it.

Speaker 5:
[48:59] You can feel it.

Speaker 6:
[49:00] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[49:00] Pardon?

Speaker 1:
[49:01] I said, yeah, you can feel it. I'm doing it right.

Speaker 5:
[49:03] You can feel it. You can feel it. And so when that starts to happen and you're breathing in the belly, you feel full, you feel comfortable. There's this beautiful nurturing energy that is now available for you that you overlook when you're just living your head, you're not down in your body to feel these things. And so this is a beautiful way to get started. And then I'll go to this fourth one way up here in the head. Next. And if you roll your eyes up and you roll them down and roll them up, roll them down and roll them up again, you start to feel something behind your eyes because the muscles are active. So if you took a line from behind your eyes, down through your heart where those shoulder blades are squeezed, all the way down into your belly where you're squeezing that Cagle exercise, if you created a line connecting them just like that, what you would begin to sense and feel as you breathe from above your head, down through that line like we were doing earlier, into the belly, and then exhaling down into the earth, and then inhaling up into the belly, and exhaling up and out the top of the head. What starts to happen is you establish this river of energy through your body that is actually connected to the universe. It's connected to nature. It is a measurable stream of energy that pours into our bodies and goes all the way into the earth. Then it rises up from the earth and it rises up through our bodies, and it generates a, I don't know if you can see that. Probably can't see it because of the way we're set up here today on this. So what happens is that energy starts cycling around and around and around your body, and it's the healing template that allows us to sense and feel in a supersensory sort of way. We become like precognitive. We are able to sense and perceive what's not only right in this moment, but we navigate our lives in a way that we actually have a greater sixth sense type of addition to our sensory nervous system. It really gets us in touch with the whole of our lives, and the point of our lives, and making really solid decisions that are just going to carry us into what our life is really meant to deliver, what we're meant to step into. So it's something that the Eastern cultures were in touch with, and the Western world just isn't, because the Western world became very advanced in developing, you know, medications and surgical procedures and technology in that way. But in these other cultures, they have maintained this awareness, and it's really the whole principle and philosophy behind yoga and meditation, et cetera, all of which I teach people how to do in a way that really sets them up to live in their bodies instead of just living in their heads, and really learning to feel while you're living your daily life. You don't have to just separate yourself out from life, as some of us have little ones running around, and it's pretty tough to go grab a half an hour for yourself. I've designed so many things for people to do that they can do while they're living their lives, while they're sitting at their computer, while they're in a meeting, while they're fixing dinner, while they're making the bed, while they're doing everything that we do.

Speaker 1:
[52:41] Because everything feels like it's chore, right? So like you're giving us a free way to be able to do this, that's going to be helpful. Because you know, it's like, you got to get the kids to school, you got to get to work, you might have a doctor's appointment, you might have therapy, like you can do what you just showed us anywhere.

Speaker 5:
[52:56] Anywhere, anytime, all the time, please. Because when you do it so many times a day, just while you're doing it, number one, you're focusing your mind on doing something that's for you, instead of just worrying about, am I going to get to that appointment? You're driving to the appointment, and you're going to get there as fast as you can get. There's no sense worrying from here to there. You could be belly breathing and practicing these anchor points, breathing up and down the central channel while you're waiting at the stoplight, while you're taking off and getting on that ramp and getting off the next one. It will allow you to develop a sense of self inside, in the body, and how energy is moving through your system begins to accentuate and anchor you in your wisdom and in your true nature, instead of just living from chore to chore, task to task, checking off the boxes, and getting another week out of the way. Life is supposed to be more enjoyable than that, and I used to do that. I used to live that way, and it's awful. It's just compared to how you could be living. I now do so much more than I did when I was running a clinic and managing other doctors and managing a staff and seeing patients all day long. I do probably four to five times as much as I was doing, seeing 60 patients a day, which was super busy, and I don't feel the way I felt at all. I do not get stressed when the going gets tough. I just enhance my attention in breathing in these patterns and these ways that I have shown people to do in both of the books that I've written about this, and all the while, I'm super functioning. I require less sleep. I used to have to lay down at lunchtime between patients, sleep, you know. I would just sleep through my lunch hour so that I could handle my afternoon patients. And I was like 30 years old when I was doing this, you know, or even younger. And so, you know, it wasn't right. You're not supposed to be that tired. And now, you know, all these years later, decades later, I go on a fraction of the sleep that I used to get at need every night. And I never have to lay down during the day. And I feel younger than I felt 30 years ago.

Speaker 1:
[55:16] So do you feel like it's truly tired or is it burnout that people are experiencing and they're saying it's tired?

Speaker 5:
[55:25] It's a great question. So what happens is we get up in fight or flight and we are performing, just taking the job done, getting the things done, everything that we have to do. And it activates the sympathetic nervous system. And over time, what happens is the adrenal glands that are up there firing and getting us through our life, they exhaust, they exhaust and they exhaust. And so now it looks like we're in parasympathetic dominance, but really we're in sympathetic dominance, but it's exhausted. We're in fight or flight, but it's exhausted. And so this, that should be nurturing and filtering and cleansing and repairing, it actually shows up like worry. It shows up like, like, God, I'm never going to get it done. And so we become apathetic. And under those conditions of worry and exhaustion, it's burnout. And so we need the rest, we need the sleep. But it's not that we don't get enough sleep at night, it's that we're stressing our system too much so that a normal amount of sleep isn't enough for us. And so we have to dislodge that until we can get a harmony happening in that nervous system again. And that's what both of my books talk about, how to do that, how to get that dislodged from being locked in this place. I talk about it like a trap door in your brain that's supposed to be open so that you're conscious and your subconscious can help each other. And that your inner wisdom can rise up so that you're not just using your mind all the time to make those decisions, but that your gut makes those decisions. That's what's supposed to be happening. This wisdom is supposed to be rising and making the choices in our lives, but this trap door has slammed shut because we got overstressed and it short circuited the system. And so now we're stuck in fight or flight because we're up here trying to live life driven by the mind. And the mind isn't built to do that. The mind is supposed to be supporting this soulful self. It's supposed to be supporting your gut wisdom. But when we shut it down, we don't have access to the gut wisdom. So we're up here in our heads trying to make all the right decisions and it freaks us out. And it's not supposed to be that hard. So there are so many things that we can do. I teach so many healing techniques inside of both of the books that allow people to get it and open up their nervous system again so that they're not burned out. Because your system is trying to heal all the time. And the only reason it's not healing is if it's stuck with the trap door slam shut, then the nervous system out of balance in this way. But we can unstick it. We can turn it around. I did. And I've taught hundreds of thousands of people in the last decades to do this. And they do. And it works.

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Speaker 5:
[60:14] You bet. I create all kinds of meditations for people, and there's music behind it that gives us that binaural beat that stills the brain, that brings us into alpha frequency or even into deeper delta and theta frequencies to really slow the mind down so that we stretch open that wave. Because when we're worrying or overthinking, that wave goes up and down, up and down, up and down in a very rapid way. And when we start to breathe lower in the body and slower in the body, and we start to associate ourselves into a meditative state or listening to that kind of music, it opens that up into much more space in between those peaks and troughs and peaks and troughs of our brain waves. And so, you bet, it's beneficial. And it's a very big part of what I offer people and make available for people who take courses with me, or they can take, you know, there's lots of free content I have on YouTube and all sorts of things along those lines, too, that people can learn.

Speaker 1:
[61:21] What are the differences between... You've written two books. What are the differences between the first one and the second one?

Speaker 5:
[61:29] Okay, yeah, so the first book was called The Energy Codes, and I wrote it several years ago, but it is still like it's... I just saw today that it was like number... Yesterday, it was number three in energy medicine and self-healing on Amazon, and it's called The Energy Codes, and it teaches us how to really get into this conversation from the angle of physical healing and those kinds of things. And the book that I've just written, that hit number one today was...

Speaker 1:
[62:04] That's so exciting.

Speaker 5:
[62:06] I know. Isn't that so fun? I'm so glad that I got to be here with you and like, yay, because I just heard just moments before I came in here. It's called The Anatomy of Awakening. And so it's geared toward really getting a handle on what your true purpose is in life and how we're supposed to be navigating this life. And so they both teach you self-healing techniques, things that you can do. The middle section of both books is all about the practices that you can do to, you know, to really start turning your life around. So I'm very excited. So basically, the second book is everything I learned since the first book. But they both carry a lot of beautiful ideas for people to work with, to change their lives in so many ways. Both of them are working with the energy flow through the body. Both of them are teaching you how to do that with your mind's attention. They have different practices in each of them. So, you know, both would serve. But I'm very excited about the one. I recap the first one a little bit in the second book at the beginning. So you kind of get a crash course on that one. And then new ideas as well that, you know, the second one I'm really excited about because it bridges science and spirituality. And it's sort of a women's approach to putting all these pieces together. It talks about deep wisdom and carries forward different goddesses and gods from the Eastern cultures and from ancient Egypt and from Greek mythology. And, you know, in a very user friendly way, just kind of like, hey, this has been going on forever but we've lost touch with it. And so we're not benefitting from the very stories that those gods and goddesses and the mythological, you know, individuals were actually trying to teach us that there's actually something that's happening today with quantum science and us bridging science and spirituality together that would actually allow you to reap the benefits that have been offered up for thousands of years. But it just got lost in translation over the years. So since these things started unfolding in my life 25 years ago, I've spent time traveling to sacred sites around the world, taking people there, studying what they have in common, understanding what the cultures were trying to preserve in their hieroglyphs and in their petroglyphs and in their statues and their cathedrals and all of it. And so I've put it all together inside of this book called The Anatomy of Awakening. That is, it just came out this past week, a week ago today actually, or a week ago yesterday. It came out. It's been out for a week. And it already hit number one on the chart. So it's just really super exciting. And I feel like it's time for us to really know the power that we have to master our lives and feel really great about ourselves and making a difference for others in the world.

Speaker 1:
[65:07] For sure. I want to get your take on a couple of things, but these are more like rapid fire. If the first question is, if someone feels completely overwhelmed right now, what would you say step one would be?

Speaker 5:
[65:22] Take a big deep belly breath and exhale right into the earth and remind yourself that nothing is bigger than you. You're not broken. Nothing's missing. Nothing's wrong. You've got this. And take that central channel breath that we were just discussing.

Speaker 1:
[65:35] Okay. Next, how do you start trusting yourself again when you've ignored your own needs for so long?

Speaker 5:
[65:40] Yeah. When you pull yourself back from who's standing in the doorway triggering you, when you pull yourself back onto you right in the face of that, which means we can do this all the time because we get triggered and we get upset and things are going on, stress is happening all the time. So you pull that energy back onto you and you're going to feel yourself again, and your subconscious automatically starts trusting you. It basically says, thank you. I can't run without this energy. Thank you for offering it up. And so it starts to develop a trusted state on the inside energetically in a felt way in your own body.

Speaker 1:
[66:13] Next question. What's something about all of this that people overcomplicate?

Speaker 5:
[66:18] People overcomplicate the idea that it has to be hard to heal because life looks really complex when we live in our minds. And so we think it takes something really complex to heal us. And when you get down in your body, you start to realize how simple it can be and how nature is on your side and how your system was actually built for living the way that we're speaking about. So we make it hard by staying in our head about it.

Speaker 1:
[66:43] This is not on my rapid fire, but it just came up in my mind. Doing this and then therapy, do you feel like over time in the last 25 years, you've seen people turn to the way of meditation versus being in a therapeutic setting? And I'm talking like therapy.

Speaker 5:
[67:02] About what?

Speaker 1:
[67:03] I'm talking about like talk therapy.

Speaker 5:
[67:05] Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this work along with talk therapy is a beautiful combination because it's getting people in their bodies and you can work things out. You know, like talk therapy is like a dentist, it's like everything. It's like a doctor, it's like a lawyer. There's good ones and there's not so good ones. So meaning therapists and doctors and dentists, et cetera. And so you want to make sure that you're working with someone who is seeing you in your wholeness and drawing that up and out of you instead of always rehashing the issues, but also allows you to discover a deeper truth of who you are and what your desires and your inspirations are. So working with this work and going through any sort of other modality is very complimentary and very supportive.

Speaker 1:
[67:51] I know. I'm sitting here thinking I need to be doing all of this while I'm also going to therapy, so that's why I asked. What is one small shift that can actually change your whole day?

Speaker 5:
[68:03] I've said it a bunch of times today, but I don't mean to be repetitive, but it is so easy to do. Drop your shoulders and take a belly breath, and Moolabanda, that whole Kegel exercise. Just get down in your body and breathe.

Speaker 2:
[68:15] I've been doing it this whole time.

Speaker 1:
[68:16] You showed me how to do it, and I've been doing it the whole time.

Speaker 5:
[68:19] It will change you. It will change you. It's like if you're driving down the road and you're upset and you do this, you can't get as upset as you were just a minute ago, because the energy is now distributed into your wisdom center and into your power center and into your heart instead of just up in your head. So it saves us from a lot of grief.

Speaker 1:
[68:37] For sure. Before we wrap up, what do you really hope that women, especially moms listening, take away from this conversation?

Speaker 5:
[68:45] That they have what it takes to not only flourish, not only survive and flourish, but to truly awaken to a greater version of who they are because of the stresses that are in their lives. One of the things that I teach people in the book is how to take a stress and turn it into something that actually makes you bigger and better than you ever would have been without the stress. So that, not to say you need stresses in order to evolve, but if there's stresses in your life, they might as well evolve you. So that's what I want people to know, that you can turn anything into something that serves you well. Not just that you cope with it better, but that you become more because of it. It's like, hey, if this is going to be so upsetting to me, it's going to serve me in some way. I'm not letting this by, so I'm going to get something out of it too. That's what people get through The Anatomy of Awakening. That's why I wrote the book.

Speaker 1:
[69:37] Okay. Dr. Sue, before we go, will you tell everybody where they can find you, where they can follow along, and where they can get your book? Because I know a lot of people are going to want more after this, and I'm actually going to go and order your book as soon as we're done.

Speaker 5:
[69:50] Oh, that is so sweet. I'm so glad. Yes, drsumorter.com is my website. I have a podcast too. I'm always talking about how to awaken, how to heal, how to awaken. That's called The Art of Awakening. Then the new book is The Anatomy of Awakening. On my website, you can find out all kinds of information about classes that I teach, and ways you can hear me speak, and all kinds of things that you can implement for yourselves at home on your own, or if you want to get plugged in with a group of people and take a class or something like that. An easy invitation into doing those kinds of things as well. It's all right there on the website. We also have a YouTube channel and we're on social media and all that stuff.

Speaker 1:
[70:38] Well, thank you so much for joining me today. I really appreciate it. Congratulations on your book. That's so very exciting, and I hope that you have a great rest of your day.

Speaker 5:
[70:47] Thank you. It's great to connect with you, and you have a great day too, and everyone listening. Bye-bye for now.

Speaker 6:
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Speaker 7:
[71:26] Do you even know what it's like to have a BFF?

Speaker 8:
[71:28] Cause we sure do. We both never had sisters growing up, so we just decided to become each others.

Speaker 7:
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Speaker 8:
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Speaker 7:
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Speaker 7:
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Speaker 8:
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