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Speaker 1:
[00:00] The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious.
Speaker 2:
[00:09] It is not real.
Speaker 1:
[00:11] No one is exposing, revealing, indicting or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.
Speaker 2:
[00:21] We are trained professionals. Do not have your best interests at heart or our own.
Speaker 1:
[00:27] Enjoy the show.
Speaker 3:
[00:28] You press the button.
Speaker 1:
[00:32] Yes, welcome to episode 419. No, 419 was beef. 419 was leading up to smoke. Welcome to 418.
Speaker 4:
[01:02] And the fours and nines look kind of similar.
Speaker 1:
[01:04] 918.
Speaker 4:
[01:05] There we go.
Speaker 1:
[01:06] Welcome to episode 918 of The Joe Budden Podcast. I'm Joe Budden, and we're gonna have an amazing time today. Positive energy and positive vibes, friendship vibes, like the Villanova College players that are currently on the Knicks. The power of friendship will prevail today.
Speaker 4:
[01:26] So we're getting finger popped?
Speaker 1:
[01:27] Unless flip, nah, we ain't doing that. Unless Ish Professor is walking in. We're not doing that.
Speaker 5:
[01:33] I'm sorry, what are you? That's not how you start friendship.
Speaker 3:
[01:37] So who di Vincenzo?
Speaker 6:
[01:40] Oh shit. This, it's just...
Speaker 1:
[01:43] That's loaded.
Speaker 2:
[01:44] That's loaded.
Speaker 1:
[01:47] No one's di Vincenzo on my paper.
Speaker 2:
[01:52] There.
Speaker 1:
[01:53] How's everybody doing? It's good to see everybody.
Speaker 5:
[01:55] It's good to be back. I'm glad you said friendship vibes too, because we're gonna keep the momentum going from the last episode, the Patreon.
Speaker 1:
[02:02] Was it a really good Patreon? I saw it. A group of friends.
Speaker 5:
[02:05] A group of friends. The energy was flowing, everyone was participating, people felt heard, people felt seen and valued and respected.
Speaker 1:
[02:12] I want to keep that going.
Speaker 6:
[02:15] Nah.
Speaker 1:
[02:16] We on Friendship Podcast today.
Speaker 6:
[02:18] Nah.
Speaker 1:
[02:19] Nah. No.
Speaker 6:
[02:24] Hey, yo, why you do that? Why would something get popping when you not like, you just come back and try to add on to it? No, they had their vibes without us, boy. Accept it. They had their vibes without us. They didn't need us to be vibing, Obviously, me and you was throwing these ass. No, see, see. No, see.
Speaker 7:
[02:39] Me and you was throwing these ass.
Speaker 6:
[02:43] But I don't want to be neither, what is the trouble?
Speaker 1:
[02:45] No, you want to be.
Speaker 7:
[02:47] Look at this one. Get that a chain, boy.
Speaker 1:
[02:50] I want a group of Harmony and watching them be in Harmony.
Speaker 6:
[02:53] Not if you say shut up and have a sit in a seat and act like some shit.
Speaker 1:
[02:56] Without me, not only did I thoroughly enjoy that Patreon episode, check it out in case you missed it. Push Rod, Push Pod, Toilet, Sword, right there on the Patreon.
Speaker 3:
[03:07] That's what they named it?
Speaker 1:
[03:08] That was the name.
Speaker 5:
[03:09] You said Push Pod. I thought you were being funny. No, Push Rod.
Speaker 3:
[03:14] Push Rod.
Speaker 4:
[03:14] Push Rod.
Speaker 1:
[03:15] Oh, I made it fly in y'all. You know what?
Speaker 5:
[03:18] See what he's doing?
Speaker 8:
[03:19] He can't hurt himself.
Speaker 4:
[03:20] Not very friendly.
Speaker 5:
[03:21] Get on the way, Budden.
Speaker 6:
[03:24] Yo bro, let them have they shit. We don't need that, boy.
Speaker 2:
[03:27] Let them have it.
Speaker 1:
[03:28] You wanna be negative on them?
Speaker 2:
[03:29] the energy up.
Speaker 9:
[03:30] Yeah, I saw that shit. I saw the clips.
Speaker 1:
[03:33] You wanna up something?
Speaker 2:
[03:33] I saw the clips.
Speaker 9:
[03:35] I was hanging.
Speaker 2:
[03:37] I could be coerced.
Speaker 6:
[03:39] I was hanging.
Speaker 5:
[03:39] Don't take much.
Speaker 6:
[03:40] Parks is right here. Y'all was looking too...
Speaker 7:
[03:42] Yeah, Parks was looking good in my seat.
Speaker 6:
[03:44] Look at my man, Parks.
Speaker 1:
[03:46] Yo, subscribe to the Patreon, man. A group of friends.
Speaker 4:
[03:49] A group of friends.
Speaker 3:
[03:49] A group of friends, man.
Speaker 4:
[03:53] That's what this pod was built on. Friendship, friendship, friendship.
Speaker 3:
[03:56] Yo, fuck y'all friendship.
Speaker 9:
[03:58] I was in Trinidad like this.
Speaker 7:
[03:59] Look at these bitch ass.
Speaker 3:
[04:01] Look at them smiling and laughing.
Speaker 6:
[04:03] What the they talking about? She was good. I saw her in the airport.
Speaker 5:
[04:06] You saw her more in the airport than we saw the video.
Speaker 6:
[04:08] She was good.
Speaker 5:
[04:10] I got Instagram.
Speaker 7:
[04:12] You sure you got Instagram, Yeah. Well, yes, you should.
Speaker 3:
[04:18] Y'all was in the Mild High?
Speaker 7:
[04:20] Excuse me?
Speaker 3:
[04:21] Y'all was in the Mild High?
Speaker 6:
[04:23] No, we wasn't in the Mild High, man. I'm just saying, I saw Nala Blackman before that and I saw her in the airport. Shout out to Nala Blackman. She said, I'm not beating the allegations. She watched the podcast. Shout out to her, man, I was happy. Whatever allegations that you throw out there, she said that.
Speaker 5:
[04:39] Oh, we say that you play music a lot.
Speaker 6:
[04:41] No, Joe be throwing some, Joe throws a lot of allegations.
Speaker 5:
[04:45] How was Trinidad though?
Speaker 6:
[04:46] Trinidad was great, man. We gave it to the community. Got a lot of support from the country.
Speaker 5:
[04:51] How much support?
Speaker 3:
[04:52] Community support.
Speaker 6:
[04:56] How much support? A lot, a lot of support from the community. For sure? Yeah, for sure. What's important?
Speaker 5:
[05:03] Yeah, it's very important.
Speaker 6:
[05:04] And it's important to get back, man, and just show people that, you know, you were here to support them and put, you know.
Speaker 5:
[05:10] Where were you?
Speaker 6:
[05:11] I was in St. Paul.
Speaker 3:
[05:13] Oh, you ain't go to Laventale?
Speaker 6:
[05:14] Yeah, I went to Laventale, yeah. Shout out to them over there, too. I'm going to do something over there, too, next.
Speaker 1:
[05:18] He don't be no weird dangerous. He just write that in the caption, the most dangerous place in the world.
Speaker 6:
[05:23] That should have flipped you.
Speaker 7:
[05:24] Knock it off.
Speaker 4:
[05:25] I saw him doing some gun shit.
Speaker 6:
[05:27] Yeah, you could go do gun shit in a living state. The reason why I don't want to put guns on there because the Christmas list dude, he got charged by the country for sedition. So you can't, if you show any guns in videos, you get in trouble. I'm not even trying to participate in that. I'm trying to show another side of the community, a positive side. So they showed me a lot of love over there. Shout out to St. Paul, shout out to Johnny Bravo.
Speaker 1:
[05:48] Why you don't come over here and be positive?
Speaker 6:
[05:51] What do you mean?
Speaker 3:
[05:52] Why you don't give a wad to the community over here?
Speaker 1:
[05:53] You come over here and cursed Ish out, you cursed me out, you told Marc he's sleeping.
Speaker 5:
[05:58] NYU.
Speaker 1:
[05:58] NYU, colleges.
Speaker 7:
[06:00] Like why you can't bring some of that good positive energy?
Speaker 6:
[06:02] Because imagine a sleeping at the desk at NYU like a bird.
Speaker 1:
[06:06] Yeah, but treat us like you beat when you were in Trinidad, when you were in Chinatown. You go over there.
Speaker 8:
[06:13] Ohio.
Speaker 7:
[06:14] Yeah.
Speaker 6:
[06:14] Chinatown was a little scary.
Speaker 2:
[06:16] That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:
[06:17] Oh, you act like that.
Speaker 6:
[06:19] Yeah, he's that scared of us.
Speaker 1:
[06:19] Yeah, he act like that with us because we chump.
Speaker 6:
[06:21] I ain't got no chump. No, listen, I love y'all, man. I mean, if it wasn't for y'all, man, I wouldn't have the energy that I have now. Coming in this building and seeing y'all just have beautiful faces makes me excited.
Speaker 1:
[06:30] Power, friendship.
Speaker 4:
[06:31] Yeah. That's right.
Speaker 1:
[06:32] Friendship vibes.
Speaker 4:
[06:33] All about friends here.
Speaker 6:
[06:34] POF.
Speaker 1:
[06:36] I can't believe y'all waited till I was going to be gay.
Speaker 7:
[06:40] Everybody started sharing their gay experiences.
Speaker 4:
[06:42] That's true.
Speaker 1:
[06:42] Parks got bagged by a nigga. Ish got bagged by his professor. Marc got bagged again. Man, this was a different story. You done got bagged a couple times. He don't even realize it. He talked so much for a living. Why y'all don't do that shit when I'm here and be gay?
Speaker 5:
[06:56] It's not a safe place. It's not a safe space, Joe.
Speaker 2:
[06:59] Damn, man.
Speaker 4:
[07:00] Sorry, man.
Speaker 1:
[07:01] It's that same shit, man. I'm falling for what you're saying about me.
Speaker 4:
[07:03] Oh, shit.
Speaker 2:
[07:04] Oh, my God. Same two. Same two, right? Yeah. Back at it.
Speaker 1:
[07:10] Yo, I don't know how long I'm going to keep this friendship shit going. I'm going to try it, though.
Speaker 2:
[07:14] Look, look, look, look.
Speaker 7:
[07:15] He had to throw that shit. No, I am going to try it. It's a long broadcast. That should be cool for... Hey, they didn't keep it going long either.
Speaker 1:
[07:22] After two hours, they...
Speaker 5:
[07:24] What y'all think? Before, after, prospects?
Speaker 1:
[07:27] Oh, no, I can make it to prospects.
Speaker 5:
[07:28] I don't think you can make it to prospects.
Speaker 3:
[07:29] I think you can get right after prospects.
Speaker 5:
[07:31] I don't think you can get to prospects. Watch, I guarantee you.
Speaker 1:
[07:33] I can make it to prospects, for sure.
Speaker 2:
[07:34] Okay. That's an hour.
Speaker 5:
[07:36] I know how long it is.
Speaker 1:
[07:37] I'm telling you, I can be...
Speaker 5:
[07:38] And I know you.
Speaker 1:
[07:38] I can be a friend to the... What's the wager?
Speaker 5:
[07:41] 50 bucks.
Speaker 2:
[07:42] I'll take it.
Speaker 10:
[07:43] Done.
Speaker 1:
[07:44] Anybody else?
Speaker 4:
[07:46] No, you got it.
Speaker 6:
[07:47] Bitch.
Speaker 2:
[07:48] Y'all got that.
Speaker 3:
[07:48] Y'all got that. Bitch.
Speaker 6:
[07:50] You got back too?
Speaker 3:
[07:51] No. I'm cool.
Speaker 1:
[07:54] You ready to start the show?
Speaker 3:
[07:56] Let's get it.
Speaker 6:
[07:59] What up, bitch?
Speaker 9:
[08:01] Nothing.
Speaker 3:
[08:05] I'm just waiting for you to... Yeah, I mean...
Speaker 2:
[08:06] I thought you said, yo, dog.
Speaker 3:
[08:07] I did.
Speaker 2:
[08:08] To me?
Speaker 10:
[08:09] Yeah, you...
Speaker 2:
[08:10] Oh, you think I...
Speaker 5:
[08:11] Are you high?
Speaker 6:
[08:13] Are you all right, bro?
Speaker 8:
[08:14] Yeah, the sick of you, bro.
Speaker 6:
[08:16] You went back to the... You feel that, bro? I thought you was...
Speaker 10:
[08:19] I thought you was from the family.
Speaker 2:
[08:22] Say that to me.
Speaker 6:
[08:23] I thought you was from the family, but I couldn't... It was beautiful, bro. Is that how you still feel?
Speaker 2:
[08:27] You went back to the... Oh, shit.
Speaker 6:
[08:33] That was... Shout out to you, though, yo. I was on your page. I saw your family. That shit was beautiful, yo. It was. I loved that. It was. I loved that whole thing and the message you wrote, man. Shout out to you. Shout out to the buddies.
Speaker 1:
[08:42] That shit was hard. That's why I'm a little out of it, to be honest with you. That's what it is.
Speaker 6:
[08:46] Every time...
Speaker 1:
[08:47] All these fucking kids.
Speaker 10:
[08:49] These fucking kids.
Speaker 9:
[08:50] Until the lights turned up.
Speaker 2:
[08:52] Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:
[08:54] Anyway, I ain't gonna start like that, but it was great. It was great to see all the family, cousins and aunts and I got a lot of my... They did these t-shirts that I talked about on Instagram where my aunt Catherine was like, made it to 90 or I'm there at 90. And then my aunt Lou said, I've been there. And then my next aunt said, preparing for and then like all these teachers. Yeah, that shit was fly on some... That's dope. That shit was so I didn't realize that like my uncle Hazel's 88.
Speaker 2:
[09:27] Your uncle? Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[09:29] These are my grandfather's siblings. So my grandfather, they was deep. So they the ones that had all the fucking kids. Yeah, that was beautiful. My girl, her kids. And so I'm like, perfect, great. If there's one place in the world that my girl son's Tourette's won't be a problem, it's my family's house because my family done seen it all, heard it all, done it all and there's enough lunatics. So I'm sitting there wishing that a Tourette's outbreak happened. I'm waiting for it.
Speaker 7:
[10:10] My whole family, we deep.
Speaker 8:
[10:12] Ain't nobody gonna pass you no mind. I'm pushing, do it. I'm pushing, go ahead and do the shit you be doing.
Speaker 6:
[10:20] It doesn't happen when you get angry.
Speaker 7:
[10:22] When you get nervous, you got a trigger on you. Yeah, come on.
Speaker 6:
[10:24] But that's a good thing.
Speaker 7:
[10:25] Come on, do it.
Speaker 5:
[10:25] A lot of people here, you don't know.
Speaker 1:
[10:30] So it only almost came once, so we start biting my girl's hair on the food line to calm it down. And then the fucking full Tourette's outbreak never came.
Speaker 8:
[10:39] I said, My family didn't get to see it.
Speaker 1:
[10:43] So fine, we leave there, and I'm like, bet. We're going to go get in the pool back at the hotel. I need trunks. Let's go to fucking Walmart. My girl got a bright idea. Say, we ain't got to go to Walmart. That's further down. Let's go to Ross. Some fucking poor people's shit.
Speaker 2:
[11:01] It's not Ross. What's wrong?
Speaker 1:
[11:03] There was a bunch of bullshit in that Ross I was in.
Speaker 3:
[11:06] There was a mass down there.
Speaker 1:
[11:08] I'm talking about the one I went to.
Speaker 7:
[11:10] I'd never been to Ross.
Speaker 1:
[11:11] No, I'd be shooting in it. What, a down sound?
Speaker 3:
[11:14] It's like Marshall's, TJ Maxx.
Speaker 4:
[11:15] Oh, okay.
Speaker 7:
[11:17] I guess it was like that, just less organized.
Speaker 6:
[11:19] It's the same.
Speaker 1:
[11:20] It wasn't organized.
Speaker 4:
[11:21] Some of the TJ Maxx's and Marshall's do not be organized.
Speaker 5:
[11:23] No, it's closed everywhere, signs everywhere.
Speaker 4:
[11:26] Depends on where you at.
Speaker 1:
[11:26] See, I'd never seen an unorganized Marshall's.
Speaker 4:
[11:28] Oh, really?
Speaker 5:
[11:29] Privilege.
Speaker 1:
[11:29] Well, I'm privileged. New Jersey Marshall's.
Speaker 7:
[11:31] No, no, no.
Speaker 3:
[11:33] Suburban New Jersey Marshall's.
Speaker 4:
[11:34] Some of them shit's BMS.
Speaker 5:
[11:36] Oh, in the hood, they be here.
Speaker 3:
[11:37] Paco jeans and all that.
Speaker 2:
[11:38] We goin raw.
Speaker 1:
[11:40] All the kids gotta come to, it's the, my twin brothers, her kid, her daughter's, like, when you got all these kids everywhere you go, the kids wanna come.
Speaker 3:
[11:51] Yeah. Yeah, Man, they stay in the car and under the heat.
Speaker 5:
[11:54] Are you stupid? They're clingy like that.
Speaker 3:
[11:56] No, they're not. It's smart. I'm with my rich brother.
Speaker 5:
[11:59] I might see some shit.
Speaker 3:
[12:01] Throw that on the counter, too.
Speaker 5:
[12:02] You're crazy. I'd be everywhere.
Speaker 1:
[12:05] Yeah. So the heat exhaustion shit I tried didn't work. So we go, I park right under the sun. All these get out the car.
Speaker 5:
[12:13] All right, bet.
Speaker 1:
[12:14] We going, Ross. I'm just trying to pick up some swim trunks. Long story, less law. I look at my man. He start getting... if Ross is full of white people.
Speaker 9:
[12:31] All the white people.
Speaker 1:
[12:32] Yo, and a couple, and they know me a little bit.
Speaker 8:
[13:13] Yo.
Speaker 3:
[13:14] You are an idiot, bro.
Speaker 1:
[13:15] And he grew since the last time he did that. So he about 6'2 now.
Speaker 6:
[13:18] Yeah, he grew since the last time.
Speaker 8:
[13:20] They ain't gonna shoot.
Speaker 3:
[13:21] He was tall as shit the other day.
Speaker 7:
[13:23] She told him, I said, oh, he has the card on him.
Speaker 1:
[13:24] And I said, I said, he need a T-shirt.
Speaker 6:
[13:28] That card would be nice.
Speaker 9:
[13:33] Holy shit.
Speaker 6:
[13:35] Yo, you crazy, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 2:
[13:38] I got the out of Ross.
Speaker 6:
[13:39] So obviously, around your family, he felt comfortable, around a bunch of black people, he felt comfortable, he felt good, but when he get to those towns, he was in Ross, he thought it was about to go down.
Speaker 1:
[13:48] I have Ross shoes, but I'm never going back to Ross.
Speaker 2:
[13:51] It ain't happening.
Speaker 6:
[13:53] Has there ever been a spot that you thought that was, let's say, a broke spot that you went through?
Speaker 1:
[13:58] No, I don't really, in real life, I don't think like that.
Speaker 6:
[14:00] No, that you went to that impressed you. You went to a spot that you would, you never imagine going in, but when you went there and impressed you, like it could be a restaurant, like an Olive Garden, or some shit that you ever went to.
Speaker 1:
[14:12] I mean, man, mom and pops that have impressed me.
Speaker 6:
[14:14] Mom and pops are not all, you know what I mean, but.
Speaker 1:
[14:16] Like I'm talking about independently owned, family owned businesses that are impressive.
Speaker 6:
[14:20] Gotcha.
Speaker 2:
[14:21] A bunch of them.
Speaker 1:
[14:23] raw stone, I ain't gonna make an air.
Speaker 6:
[14:26] You got the shorts though?
Speaker 2:
[14:28] Yeah. Yeah, I got.
Speaker 1:
[14:29] Then we get home, then we get home, they supposed to leave on Thursday. So I say to my girl, yo, my last Knicks ticket is Thursday.
Speaker 6:
[14:40] Celtics.
Speaker 1:
[14:43] Big game.
Speaker 10:
[14:44] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[14:45] Know what she said?
Speaker 3:
[14:50] Take them with you.
Speaker 7:
[14:53] She said, oh, you know what I think would be a great idea?
Speaker 1:
[14:59] Why don't you bring him to the Knicks game? I said without him?
Speaker 8:
[15:03] Yeah.
Speaker 7:
[15:05] Yeah, I think that would be great, a bonding moment.
Speaker 3:
[15:07] Yeah, just a tour show. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[15:09] I said, okay, what do I do if he start doing, if he hit the move at the Knicks game?
Speaker 4:
[15:19] You just got to join in.
Speaker 5:
[15:22] That's a good idea.
Speaker 6:
[15:23] They just be the friend, I'm just, Word, Yeah, word.
Speaker 1:
[15:31] I don't know, we'll think about it.
Speaker 6:
[15:32] We'll see what's going on. You should bring him, Joe.
Speaker 2:
[15:34] Maybe, I might. You should.
Speaker 1:
[15:35] I might, because I feel a bit.
Speaker 5:
[15:37] That's a great idea.
Speaker 1:
[15:38] I'm not doing this with Marc.
Speaker 2:
[15:39] That's a great idea.
Speaker 1:
[15:41] I might bring him, though.
Speaker 6:
[15:42] Make sure you wear a shirt.
Speaker 7:
[15:44] Yeah, I'm going to have a shirt.
Speaker 6:
[15:45] He got it.
Speaker 1:
[15:47] If he start wiling.
Speaker 7:
[15:49] All right, let's have a good time.
Speaker 2:
[15:50] Let's have a good time in here.
Speaker 4:
[15:52] Like friends.
Speaker 10:
[15:53] Friends.
Speaker 8:
[15:57] Why is that funny?
Speaker 1:
[15:59] I'm not fucking with Marc today. This a fool.
Speaker 7:
[16:02] I'm keeping it up.
Speaker 1:
[16:03] Pause.
Speaker 3:
[16:04] You said the start doing a thriller.
Speaker 1:
[16:06] He started his shit.
Speaker 7:
[16:12] Cause you can see it coming before it comes, Paul.
Speaker 1:
[16:14] When like, when it's about to happen, it's the look and then they got to go get ice and like it's a thing. That's why I don't understand that shit at the awards. They know that was about to start wiling. He was doing something to let it be known. This is coming. This is gonna, but whatever.
Speaker 2:
[16:28] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[16:28] Oh, man. Anyway, he happy to be amongst friends.
Speaker 2:
[16:32] Let's have some fucking fun there. Let's do it.
Speaker 7:
[18:22] Shout out to all the sub-groups out there, all the Patronis. Ho DMV, what up Boston, what up out there?
Speaker 9:
[18:32] New Orleans!
Speaker 8:
[18:35] Got the Oprah level right.
Speaker 1:
[18:37] You without the having a blast for eating, drinking, music.
Speaker 10:
[18:42] Nah, it looked like fun.
Speaker 1:
[18:44] You made me want to go.
Speaker 4:
[18:45] Yeah, you should go.
Speaker 2:
[18:46] The Food Alone.
Speaker 1:
[18:48] Yeah, The Food.
Speaker 4:
[18:49] Best food city in the world.
Speaker 3:
[18:51] Yeah.
Speaker 9:
[18:52] Not even question. What's better?
Speaker 4:
[18:57] What's better?
Speaker 3:
[18:58] Ain't nobody fucking with the Wallen's Foods.
Speaker 8:
[18:59] Not at all.
Speaker 3:
[19:01] I'm trying to think who close.
Speaker 4:
[19:03] Nothing's close.
Speaker 1:
[19:06] I don't want to say something controversial, man.
Speaker 2:
[19:08] Get me started. You never been?
Speaker 8:
[19:10] Oh shit.
Speaker 2:
[19:12] Wallen's Foods.
Speaker 8:
[21:57] Oh my God.
Speaker 1:
[21:59] I was in the clubs when this was out. This was a moment. This is one of the better moments back then.
Speaker 10:
[22:07] Woo!
Speaker 7:
[22:09] Ho Shaolin, what up out there? Yo, what year was this? 05?
Speaker 4:
[22:44] Nah, hell no. It's like 2000, maybe 1999.
Speaker 1:
[22:47] Oh, earlier, okay.
Speaker 8:
[22:48] Quarter of a century ago.
Speaker 1:
[22:49] That's why it came out in 03. I was trying to get an album out. I'm gonna end that, but I had Rod Digger queued up. I'm gonna end that, cause we got some work to do, but we could have kept that going for a little bit. Let me get these drops out the way real quick.
Speaker 4:
[25:51] That wasn't quite it.
Speaker 9:
[25:52] I'm from Queenz!
Speaker 8:
[25:54] That's it!
Speaker 1:
[25:55] Do it without us interrupting.
Speaker 8:
[25:57] Do it again?
Speaker 1:
[25:58] Do it clean.
Speaker 4:
[25:58] Yeah, man, come on.
Speaker 8:
[26:00] I'm from Queenz!
Speaker 1:
[26:01] Thank you.
Speaker 4:
[26:02] That's solid.
Speaker 2:
[26:03] Yeah, we can make...
Speaker 1:
[26:04] The delay on me.
Speaker 4:
[26:05] Yeah, we'll make it clean.
Speaker 6:
[26:07] I'll slap both of y'all.
Speaker 7:
[26:10] Welcome to episode 918 of The Joe Budden Podcast. I'm brought to you by, fueled by, powered by, sponsored by Price Picks, Price Picks gang.
Speaker 4:
[26:19] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[26:19] I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Budden here with some really amazing people to my right. You know the vibes. Queens get the money. Queenzflip is in the building. Next to him, our good brother, Philly's finest, Dr. Marc Lamont Hill is in the building. Next to him, stop playing with him. Mr. Thousand Doors and Up, King Wawa himself. Big Ish is in the building. Next to him, you know the vibes. Mr. Tiger Furth himself, the freest of them all. Big Freeze in the building. Next to him, Potter of the Month. Our current Potter of the Month. Elmira's finest mixer, producer, fucking extraordinaire, Grammy nominated, Big Parks in the building. Next to him, come on man, you see them pictures being crispier than ever. You see the thumbnails killing these other YouTube channels.
Speaker 7:
[27:06] White Poe in the building.
Speaker 1:
[27:09] I was thirsty as hell, he didn't poe for them Jade pictures. He said, damn, let me get home first.
Speaker 7:
[27:17] That's what he said. I didn't say that.
Speaker 4:
[27:19] I don't think you were quite like that.
Speaker 1:
[27:20] No, Marc, he didn't say that. Troublemaker.
Speaker 7:
[27:23] Yo, can we keep the friendship behind Jesus?
Speaker 5:
[27:25] I want 50 bucks.
Speaker 1:
[27:26] Come on. Yeah, but you got, I'm going to keep it going. I have to violate if you get the 50.
Speaker 5:
[27:31] Yeah, I'm going to bait you.
Speaker 7:
[27:34] Let's see what you're doing here. Our good brother Cory is in the building. How are things? Still going strong? I've been away for a weekend, so I don't know.
Speaker 1:
[27:42] Going strong. Big St. Martin vibes.
Speaker 2:
[27:45] Stop playing.
Speaker 7:
[27:46] You bought the Leopard swim trunks yet?
Speaker 1:
[27:49] Match them headass shoes. Matching matches. You know what time it is.
Speaker 7:
[27:52] Tanner and Savon are here by remote.
Speaker 1:
[27:54] Big Erickson is in the building. Last but not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here. What's popping with y'all, man? Good to be back.
Speaker 5:
[28:03] Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:
[28:03] How y'all doing? Great.
Speaker 3:
[28:04] Great.
Speaker 5:
[28:05] Good, man.
Speaker 3:
[28:06] Glad to be here.
Speaker 5:
[28:06] On Friday, we got an opportunity to get some sunshine, some daylight, some fresh air, good weather. Yeah. It was really nice.
Speaker 2:
[28:15] Some daylight.
Speaker 5:
[28:16] Crispy Friday evening weather.
Speaker 7:
[28:18] Please talk into the microphone, brother.
Speaker 5:
[28:20] I apologize.
Speaker 1:
[28:20] I can't hear you, brother.
Speaker 5:
[28:21] I apologize.
Speaker 4:
[28:21] He was trying for it to go under the radar. Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[28:25] I had a good weekend. I was able to drive down to Philly for a surprise party and made it.
Speaker 1:
[28:28] Oh, wait. You just reminded me of something. Wait, I didn't mean to interrupt your thought. No, please. Tuesday, next Tuesday, did you guys open the weather app?
Speaker 4:
[28:39] Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1:
[28:40] I did, too.
Speaker 4:
[28:40] Yeah. Little 80. Yeah? Little 80 on them.
Speaker 3:
[28:46] I think Friday, too.
Speaker 4:
[28:47] No.
Speaker 1:
[28:47] Oh, shit.
Speaker 3:
[28:48] Tuesday.
Speaker 1:
[28:49] Monday, 70, Tuesday, 80.
Speaker 3:
[28:51] And Wednesday, 80. Yeah, Monday, Tuesday.
Speaker 1:
[28:54] Deal with the Tuesday, though.
Speaker 6:
[28:55] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[28:55] Is everybody good?
Speaker 5:
[28:56] He said friendship.
Speaker 1:
[28:57] Is everybody good next Tuesday?
Speaker 6:
[28:58] He said friendship, boy.
Speaker 1:
[28:59] Everybody's cool.
Speaker 5:
[29:00] What's your concern, Joe?
Speaker 3:
[29:04] Pinky told me I'd start hurting.
Speaker 2:
[29:06] Anything might start hurting.
Speaker 3:
[29:08] The kids go back to school next week.
Speaker 1:
[29:10] You know, the summer colds be a bitch. Nanny canceled. I got to get ready for all the excuses, but it's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 2:
[29:17] We can come in early and get the work done.
Speaker 6:
[29:18] Let's do it.
Speaker 1:
[29:19] Yeah, I'm down.
Speaker 6:
[29:20] What's up? What's up?
Speaker 1:
[29:21] Where y'all want to start? Anywhere y'all want to start?
Speaker 4:
[29:24] Go to Miami?
Speaker 5:
[29:25] Yeah, I got to, unfortunately.
Speaker 4:
[29:26] Start in Miami?
Speaker 5:
[29:27] Some bad news, of course. Offset.
Speaker 1:
[29:29] I thought it was great news. He lived. He's alive.
Speaker 4:
[29:33] That is true.
Speaker 1:
[29:33] That part's great. That part's great.
Speaker 4:
[29:36] That's true.
Speaker 3:
[29:36] Could have went.
Speaker 5:
[29:37] The whole scenario.
Speaker 1:
[29:38] Yeah, that could have been horrible.
Speaker 3:
[29:39] Yeah, literally. Like, I think these need to stop playing with their life.
Speaker 5:
[29:45] I agree.
Speaker 3:
[29:46] Like, it's funny. I mean, just real quick.
Speaker 4:
[29:48] Yeah, let's get some back story.
Speaker 5:
[29:49] Tell people what happened. Offset was shot in front of the Hard Rock Cafe.
Speaker 6:
[29:54] Casino.
Speaker 5:
[29:55] Casino.
Speaker 6:
[29:56] Not in the front.
Speaker 3:
[29:57] Inside. He got shot inside.
Speaker 4:
[29:58] In the valet, I think, right?
Speaker 5:
[30:00] He was allegedly shot by another rapper. Lil Tjay?
Speaker 3:
[30:05] Yes.
Speaker 5:
[30:05] Allegedly, yes. Yes. Allegedly, he was shot in the buttocks.
Speaker 4:
[30:09] Don't say it like that.
Speaker 5:
[30:10] After an alter...
Speaker 4:
[30:13] The buttocks.
Speaker 5:
[30:14] I'm reporting. That is true. Take this seriously, people. There apparently was a physical altercation over some money, an alleged debt of $10,000. From what reports I've heard, is Offset got the better of the exchange, and as he was turning to leave, yeah. Pow.
Speaker 3:
[30:31] Yeah. Bro, that shit ain't funny.
Speaker 4:
[30:32] Not at all.
Speaker 10:
[30:33] Not at all.
Speaker 3:
[30:34] Like, Doug, I remember, not to personalize it, but I remember when I got shot, this old dude told me, he was like, yo, when you go home, take a ruler, you know, a 12-inch ruler. He's like, yo, that could be the difference between life and death, and most of these can't shoot. So, yo, if you 12 inches difference, that nigga could have been not here no more, and it could be a whole different report.
Speaker 5:
[30:55] Or be paralyzed.
Speaker 3:
[30:56] Yeah, that shit ain't funny, my nigga. Like, these need to start handling themselves accordingly. They young black men, yo, and we be in the news for some stupid shit. Even once you got enough money to get away from what we trying to escape, these just be still doing dumb shit, and it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1:
[31:11] I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more with what you're saying.
Speaker 5:
[31:15] Yeah. I don't know who right and who wrong, but I know if the amount they fight over is $10,000.
Speaker 3:
[31:21] You could have caught a body for $10,000.
Speaker 5:
[31:22] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[31:22] Your lawyer fee is going to be in the millions. Like, that shit don't make no sense. You could have hit an innocent bystander for $10,000. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 8:
[31:28] Like, you said these can't shoot.
Speaker 3:
[31:29] Yeah, any.
Speaker 2:
[31:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:
[31:31] There's too many. You know how crowded casinos are?
Speaker 4:
[31:34] Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[31:35] You get what I'm saying? That could have been way different. Completely different.
Speaker 10:
[31:42] Awful story.
Speaker 2:
[31:44] What?
Speaker 5:
[31:44] Nothing.
Speaker 3:
[31:45] I'm just looking at your face.
Speaker 5:
[31:46] You got the blank face.
Speaker 2:
[31:47] No, because y'all hit it on the head with this one.
Speaker 3:
[31:49] Yeah, like, that shit ain't funny to me.
Speaker 2:
[31:50] Nothing to laugh about.
Speaker 6:
[31:55] Yo.
Speaker 2:
[31:56] All right.
Speaker 6:
[31:56] Here's the thing with me. Shout out to Offset. Shout out to TJ. I did that. I'm happy that Offset is alive and stuff like that. I do hope that Offset, you know, try to figure out his gambling addiction. I think that, you know, to avoid any...
Speaker 5:
[32:13] I didn't know he had one. Is that part of the story? Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[32:15] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[32:16] Okay. Okay.
Speaker 1:
[32:16] That's why I'm trying to let y'all be serious first, before I make jokes.
Speaker 5:
[32:19] I heard he owed the casino a lot of money, like $800,000 or $900,000. $900,000, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[32:23] Oh, so he did here.
Speaker 5:
[32:24] I know it was an addiction. I mean, when you're rich, that could be one night at gambling. I mean, you got addiction.
Speaker 1:
[32:28] It wasn't a one night thing in the park.
Speaker 5:
[32:30] Yeah, I don't know the whole... I don't know that part of the story.
Speaker 1:
[32:32] And I saw the text. Did you see the text? I saw the text that... I saw it from Academics posted it. I can't report on the authenticity of it, but it looked pretty real to me. Also, remember the Lil Tjay vid from a while back talking about Offset maybe having a gambling problem. Said he saw him in the casino. He was popped. He was in there fucking asking for... Trying to cash app, asking for cash apps. So there's a story. The text thread though was between Offset and the casino hostess.
Speaker 5:
[33:02] Okay, I didn't see this.
Speaker 1:
[33:03] And he was like, yo, I need a little something. And she said, I have to send this to the higher ups. And he said, please do. Like, did you do that yet? And she's like, are you aware of what you owe? And he's like, no, what do I owe? And she said, 850,000 and 700 and whatever number it was, but it was a substantial amount.
Speaker 2:
[33:25] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[33:26] And he said, all right, I need 500 more.
Speaker 4:
[33:30] 500,000 on top of the million.
Speaker 1:
[33:31] 500,000 more.
Speaker 2:
[33:32] Jeez. Whoa.
Speaker 1:
[33:34] It's like me in the strip club when I ran out all the money, but got a good boner going, boy, you better find some money for something we have. Hopefully, we all been there, y'all ain't gone.
Speaker 3:
[33:45] I'm talking about the gambling tab. We all ain't been there either.
Speaker 1:
[33:49] I'm not doing this with you. I'll take your word for it, friend. Yeah, this homeboy, that gambling shit is serious.
Speaker 4:
[33:58] No, it's not.
Speaker 1:
[33:59] The gambling shit is serious. Now, I would hate to be gambling again, getting my shit off, like my vice, like in my bag, be down a million. And when I leave trying to get my car or some shit, you shoot me in my ass. It's just a bad time to shoot me in the ass.
Speaker 3:
[34:18] Well, you a little bit of hate things you'll hate before that is to be down and run into the that you owe. That that you owe money. That's the last thing.
Speaker 1:
[34:25] Why does Offset owe Lil Tjay money?
Speaker 3:
[34:27] Because he was popped. He might have been popped.
Speaker 1:
[34:30] That sentence don't sound right in hip hop history.
Speaker 3:
[34:35] Why?
Speaker 6:
[34:35] It do and it don't.
Speaker 1:
[34:37] There's nothing about that sentence that says it's not true.
Speaker 7:
[34:39] Why not?
Speaker 6:
[34:41] Yeah, where Tjay is at.
Speaker 3:
[34:43] We don't know where Offset is at. All of this shit be facade with a lot of these.
Speaker 1:
[34:47] We don't know that.
Speaker 3:
[34:49] If he got an $850,000 tap, he got a couple dollars. And if he bought 500 more, he got a couple dollars. But on one of the nights you was getting your ass cracked, paused, and I'm in the casino, I loaned you 10 grand.
Speaker 9:
[35:03] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[35:04] Did you see the text between them?
Speaker 9:
[35:05] No.
Speaker 3:
[35:07] That's what I thought you were referring to, the text between Offset and Tjay.
Speaker 1:
[35:10] I don't read anything Lil Tjay types. Okay, well, he was like, he almost got our Chipotle shut down. I don't even eat Chipotle, I might have just been over there.
Speaker 3:
[35:18] I do.
Speaker 2:
[35:18] You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:
[35:20] I mean, that's the hotel I used to run away. No, no, no, no, no. I stopped with him when that happened, like, from a distance, I'm saying.
Speaker 9:
[35:27] I never stay in that hotel.
Speaker 1:
[35:29] You never stay in that hotel?
Speaker 10:
[35:30] Shit.
Speaker 1:
[35:33] Let me minus 400 from the number I thought you had.
Speaker 10:
[35:36] Got you.
Speaker 4:
[35:39] 400.
Speaker 2:
[35:40] Yeah, I'll take 400 off. You're stupid, B.
Speaker 4:
[35:44] Tell me about the text.
Speaker 3:
[35:45] No, so in the text, it's a little aggressive, and he's like...
Speaker 1:
[35:48] Who was aggressive?
Speaker 3:
[35:50] Offset was saying, boy, who are you talking to? I will smack the shit out of you.
Speaker 1:
[35:53] No, if you owe me money, don't talk to me like that. If you're the one that owed, well, how do they ask for it?
Speaker 5:
[35:59] It depends on how you ask for it.
Speaker 3:
[36:01] I'll pull the text out to you.
Speaker 1:
[36:02] I don't go with TJ ass with some fucking...
Speaker 3:
[36:04] But for Offset to say, yo, who the are you talking to? How many times have I asked you for my money?
Speaker 5:
[36:10] Right. It's a lot of factors.
Speaker 3:
[36:11] It's a lot of shit.
Speaker 1:
[36:13] And if I believe you to be all the way up, like you have my money, that's the part. So you're not giving it to me as a choice. I'm not talking about if he does have it. I mean, what Lil Tjay believes.
Speaker 3:
[36:23] Talking a little bit more reckless, like I know you got it, and now you're just not going to give it to me. Now you're being disrespectful when you're playing me out. Right. So now a nigga might want to put a little grease in their voice, like, yo, my nigga, don't think this is going to go the way you think. You're not going to just take my bread. Pardon. I read that wrong. That's Tjay. Where you at? Not going to lie. I'm going to smack the whole shit out of you. Offset. LOL. How you joking, right? I just seen this pop up. Got to be the wrong nigga you texting. Boy, I will smoke you. You barely lived already. Who the fuck you think you're talking to, nigga? You got to be talking to the wrong nigga. I'm in New York right now. Come smack me, little boy. Then some time passes.
Speaker 5:
[37:06] I'm just curious.
Speaker 3:
[37:07] Screenshot.
Speaker 5:
[37:09] I'm saying who would you have posted?
Speaker 3:
[37:11] TJ posted the screenshot and tagged him and said, TJ posted the screenshot, tagged Offset and said, yo, pay that tab, homie. Don't fade yourself over a little tin pack.
Speaker 6:
[37:20] He also owed that girl $15,000.
Speaker 3:
[37:22] So hold on. This text got a little bit more. He replies to one of Offset's stories. He says, Miami, with crying emojis. If that stopped, if it's that, stop DMing me for trace reasons.
Speaker 1:
[37:34] Then get your glasses, man.
Speaker 3:
[37:36] Never that low, bro. I just want my tin. He says, say that. And then he also posted, do not loan Offset no money. He's popped. So he's letting people know, hey, this ain't good, he's back.
Speaker 5:
[37:46] He's posted it because he, I got you.
Speaker 6:
[37:48] See, that could, and he owed, he owed the Selena.
Speaker 5:
[37:51] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[37:52] Go tell me.
Speaker 6:
[37:52] He owed the Selena, he owed the Selena Power girl $15,000. She did a video, said that she gave him $15,000.
Speaker 1:
[37:58] Okay, I'm not putting no credit to nothing, Selena Power.
Speaker 2:
[38:01] Oh, for real?
Speaker 3:
[38:02] And yo dog, Aldo Saad, we're, I hate bringing her ethics into this, but.
Speaker 2:
[38:11] No, we don't.
Speaker 5:
[38:12] No, no, I said, I hate.
Speaker 7:
[38:14] No, you don't. No, you don't.
Speaker 3:
[38:15] Once you publish that, I owe you money and all of that, and you start being, a nigga will not pay you.
Speaker 5:
[38:21] All bets are off, yeah.
Speaker 3:
[38:21] Yeah, like now I'm not going to pay you on GP. Again, I'm not saying that that's the appropriate thing, but now you done went public and all that, see me when you see me to get your money. And that's how a lot of niggas feel. Like once you post all that, now I ain't paying you shit. You get what I'm saying? And so it becomes a little gray.
Speaker 1:
[38:40] I repeat, Offset, Owen, Lil Tjay, 10 grand, just don't compute to me in hip hop.
Speaker 4:
[38:49] It shouldn't be that way.
Speaker 1:
[38:50] No.
Speaker 4:
[38:51] It shouldn't be that way.
Speaker 5:
[38:52] Owen, no. I'm borrowing, yes. I use it, but if you was in a casino one night and you was like, yo Marc, I can't, they won't give me nothing else. Give me 10, you got a lot more money than me. I would give you 10,000 just cause you you.
Speaker 3:
[39:02] And I know you got it.
Speaker 5:
[39:03] And I, cause I know you got it. I don't even got to know you that good.
Speaker 1:
[39:05] Thank you. And I would return it.
Speaker 3:
[39:07] That's the point.
Speaker 5:
[39:08] And it, that's what I said. I said the borrowing makes sense to me. No, no, what I'm saying is the borrowing. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:
[39:12] We're saying the same shit.
Speaker 5:
[39:13] So you're not speaking on the borrow.
Speaker 3:
[39:14] Okay, you're not speaking on the borrow.
Speaker 1:
[39:15] You're not borrowing.
Speaker 3:
[39:16] Got it.
Speaker 1:
[39:16] Offset owing Lil Tjay.
Speaker 8:
[39:19] Okay, okay.
Speaker 3:
[39:20] Don't sound right to me. I'll speak for myself. I thought you were saying it as him borrowing that money from Tjay sounded crazy to me.
Speaker 1:
[39:26] Shit happens.
Speaker 7:
[39:27] Yeah, that's what that shit is.
Speaker 1:
[39:28] You can borrow money from anybody. You never know where you're going to be and who you're going to be around when you pop.
Speaker 5:
[39:31] And the agent won't even give you the cash.
Speaker 1:
[39:33] It's not that.
Speaker 7:
[39:34] Return it.
Speaker 1:
[39:35] Yeah.
Speaker 7:
[39:35] Return it.
Speaker 3:
[39:36] Right, I agree. But it also could speak to how you looked at him. I forgot to hit a little.
Speaker 1:
[39:42] You can't look at nobody like that.
Speaker 3:
[39:43] You can't play with.
Speaker 1:
[39:44] You can't look at nobody like that. I was there for you when you was in a bind.
Speaker 3:
[39:48] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[39:48] Right.
Speaker 3:
[39:49] So even if I am a little nigger, why would you want to play with me like that? That's number one. Number two, if I am the little nigger, then $10,000 means way more to me than it means to you. Possible. That's what we talk about. Like, yo, $10,000 for everybody ain't a drop in the bucket.
Speaker 1:
[40:05] And you know what? What I will say about Offset, I appreciate that in every story I've ever heard about Offset, good, bad or indifferent, he could be scrapping. He don't pull out no weapon, he don't pull out no shank, he don't pull out no gun. Any story I heard, whether he was at Popeyes in Atlanta, a casino, Starlet, he just get to bow, like a good old fashioned fight, which is cool until somebody else, a nigga got the little blam blam on him.
Speaker 3:
[40:34] So the feel like he losing.
Speaker 1:
[40:35] And shoot you.
Speaker 5:
[40:36] Right.
Speaker 1:
[40:36] You know what? bow, it sound like Harlem Nights to me.
Speaker 3:
[40:39] Oh shit, you can fight.
Speaker 5:
[40:40] That's a tough L when you come to somebody like, give me my fucking money, and then you go to fight for your money, and then they win. Cause now you definitely not getting your $10,000. If I punch you in the mouth for my $10,000 and you beat my ass for my $10,000.
Speaker 4:
[40:52] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[40:53] I'm gonna ask, you ain't got that many, I'm not saying you should shoot him, but you ain't got like.
Speaker 3:
[41:00] Is it on me?
Speaker 5:
[41:01] Yeah, but you ain't got a lot of options.
Speaker 3:
[41:04] I can't walk away with this L.
Speaker 4:
[41:10] Oh, shit.
Speaker 3:
[41:11] I mean, I'm just saying.
Speaker 5:
[41:13] That don't work out good.
Speaker 2:
[41:14] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[41:16] I just think, I'm off of this Offset shit now. As a man, and granted, my thinking is a little off, so don't listen to me. I just think as a man, when judging men that are frailer than you, you should have like a checklist that you answer first to make sure they don't have a gun. Like some of the niggas I see when I'm out, I'll be like, I'll beat the absolute dog shit out of them, but they don't walk around like that.
Speaker 3:
[41:44] Nowadays, when I see that little man purse.
Speaker 7:
[41:48] Yeah, there's like a, leave that alone.
Speaker 1:
[41:52] Leave that little alone, what?
Speaker 3:
[41:54] He's definitely got it. I'm good.
Speaker 7:
[41:57] When niggas is too mismatched.
Speaker 6:
[42:00] You got to watch them.
Speaker 1:
[42:02] got on.
Speaker 2:
[42:02] Hoodie in the summer.
Speaker 6:
[42:03] Yeah.
Speaker 9:
[42:04] Oh no, that's the one.
Speaker 6:
[42:05] But they got a hoodie on in the summer.
Speaker 1:
[42:08] just threw them. When just threw on whatever.
Speaker 7:
[42:10] When a dressed like he ain't trying to get one girl.
Speaker 1:
[42:14] He got on the gray, pink, orange, some fucking tie-dye shit. Oh, he will kill this old shit.
Speaker 3:
[42:21] Crocs with a snorkel.
Speaker 7:
[42:22] Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:
[42:23] It's just questions you can answer about some of these that. Yeah, man.
Speaker 2:
[42:27] Lil Tjay, who you think you're...
Speaker 7:
[42:29] And he just got popped up at Chipotle.
Speaker 3:
[42:31] So that's more of the reason I would think that little had that on him.
Speaker 7:
[42:33] That's what I'm saying. Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:
[42:37] He might have been trying to kill him and missed.
Speaker 5:
[42:39] No, I'm pretty sure that's what would have happened.
Speaker 4:
[42:41] Nah, this sounds like an intentional...
Speaker 5:
[42:44] I don't mean that.
Speaker 3:
[42:45] I don't think these shoot good enough to intentionally shoot somebody in the ass.
Speaker 1:
[42:48] Well, I mean, he wasn't that far away, maybe. I don't know. I didn't see the footage.
Speaker 5:
[42:53] But I've seen what I told you in my brother's story when he was three feet from dude and somehow hit him in the calf. You know what I'm saying? Like sometimes people who don't shoot good don't shoot good. It just be like that sometimes.
Speaker 3:
[43:02] And my nigga, again, if you got shot in the ass, we ain't even going to say a ruler, your spine right here.
Speaker 5:
[43:07] Yeah, it could be even for his lower spine. Your spine right here.
Speaker 3:
[43:10] We're not talking about six, eight inch difference. Your spine could be right there, It could be paralyzed for life.
Speaker 6:
[43:16] That is just passionate about saving a life. I love it, yo. I just like what you're saying.
Speaker 3:
[43:21] That shit don't be no game.
Speaker 1:
[43:22] He's a victim of gun violence.
Speaker 5:
[43:25] He too has been shot in the ass.
Speaker 2:
[43:26] Yeah, that shit ain't no joke.
Speaker 7:
[43:28] Put a needle in it.
Speaker 5:
[43:30] It's bent over, please.
Speaker 1:
[43:31] Or somebody else's beef, too. I never went outside again after that.
Speaker 3:
[43:38] Y'all are like silly, bro.
Speaker 5:
[43:39] What do we say, man?
Speaker 6:
[43:40] Throw some praise at him?
Speaker 7:
[43:41] Yeah, man, for sure.
Speaker 3:
[43:42] To all parties involved.
Speaker 6:
[43:44] Do you think that Tjay gets in trouble for this, or?
Speaker 3:
[43:48] Depends.
Speaker 4:
[43:48] It's Florida.
Speaker 3:
[43:49] He got shot in the hotel, so I'm sure it's camera footage that's going to play back every single second of the altercation.
Speaker 4:
[43:56] Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[43:57] Florida. But if it's Florida.
Speaker 5:
[43:58] This is his best place. I mean, Florida is definitely illegal to shoot black people. You know what I mean? If you got any chance of getting off on this, this is the right state. You could say, I was staying on my ground.
Speaker 6:
[44:08] Don't you got to shoot them in the process of the altercation? So like they can't beat you up and go outside and walk away.
Speaker 5:
[44:15] Yeah, it's a tough one.
Speaker 3:
[44:16] You know, depending on what they say, a lot of that shit matters. Like in Florida, me and you getting into some shit, and it's all of us in here, and you say, I'm gonna kill you, nigga, and I got it on me, I could shoot you and say I was in fear for my life.
Speaker 6:
[44:28] Oh, okay.
Speaker 5:
[44:29] And when he was walking away, if I were a defensive attorney, he might be like, I saw him reach for something. I wasn't gonna let him turn around.
Speaker 3:
[44:34] He said, I'm gonna go to my car. He said, I'm gonna go do this, I'm gonna do that. I'll be right back, you wait right here. You know what I mean? Shit like that.
Speaker 5:
[44:41] I'll let him have it. We're not endorsing any of these strategies. I'm just saying, Larder gives you a lot of room to do that.
Speaker 1:
[44:46] I won't put a gambling addiction on Offset because I don't know enough about him, so I won't. But assuming that he has one, I assume a lot of rappers have one.
Speaker 9:
[44:57] It's tough.
Speaker 5:
[44:58] They do.
Speaker 3:
[44:59] If I had money like that, I would be at the casino every day.
Speaker 1:
[45:02] Really?
Speaker 3:
[45:02] You're at the casino every day now, MGM been kicking my ass the last two months.
Speaker 9:
[45:07] See?
Speaker 1:
[45:07] Well, I mean, I didn't want to bring it up, but.
Speaker 5:
[45:13] Bring it up.
Speaker 6:
[45:13] We know you got hit.
Speaker 1:
[45:14] This room has my full support.
Speaker 2:
[45:16] Son of a bitch. I want that.
Speaker 1:
[45:19] This room has my full support in any area that you might maybe struggle in it. Listen, call me sometimes when you're in the grips.
Speaker 9:
[45:27] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[45:29] Cool. All right.
Speaker 5:
[45:30] That's crazy. That was a little crazy.
Speaker 3:
[45:32] That sounded.
Speaker 1:
[45:33] You got a boy? In the grips. In the grips.
Speaker 2:
[45:35] In the grips of it. All right, never mind.
Speaker 1:
[45:37] My bad. Offset, friend of the show. Glad you are in stable condition. That could have been bad if you are struggling with gambling. I do hope you and anybody else out there that may be struggling gets it together. There's nothing. There's no laughing.
Speaker 4:
[45:53] That's not.
Speaker 1:
[45:54] It's serious business. It is.
Speaker 3:
[45:56] And I just want to say what they arrested Tjay on is misdemeanor disorderly conduct. And he has a $500 bond.
Speaker 1:
[46:03] So they arrested him for the fight.
Speaker 3:
[46:04] They ain't arrested him for shooting.
Speaker 5:
[46:06] That don't mean they can't charge him with it, though. They'll be back.
Speaker 1:
[46:09] Maybe.
Speaker 5:
[46:10] They might not have seen what they needed to see yet. They might not have seen the footage, but I hope it gets resolved however it's supposed to.
Speaker 7:
[46:17] Yeah, for real.
Speaker 5:
[46:18] Yeah, but that's crazy, man. I was just moving past Offset, NBA players, rappers. There's a lot of people who make a lot of money who fill up those casinos and give it all back.
Speaker 7:
[46:29] Tons. Tons, bro.
Speaker 5:
[46:30] Yeah, so I'm hoping T's and P's not just for Offset before. Everybody out there that's dealing with it. Because it's hard to know when you got a gambling addiction, when you got so much money.
Speaker 3:
[46:38] when you broke, you could have a gambling addiction. Like, I was in a casino a couple weeks ago, and this girl...
Speaker 5:
[46:45] No, I'm dead ass.
Speaker 3:
[46:46] So this girl... Can we believe it? No, this girl came to the table, like her dude and her homegirl was gambling. She was in the high stakes room. She said they took 15 from her and like that. She came over to that bitch. Her face looked like it was dragging the floor on my leg. I'm like, 15 in like a half an hour.
Speaker 5:
[47:03] What's the most... I'm gonna ask you first. What's the most y'all lost gambling? What's the most you ever lost gambling?
Speaker 8:
[47:07] At one shot?
Speaker 3:
[47:11] Probably like seven grand.
Speaker 9:
[47:12] Some shit like that, eight grand.
Speaker 5:
[47:14] Roulette?
Speaker 3:
[47:15] Blackjack, poker. You know I used to gamble on the street. See, all that shit. I probably lost seven, eight grand before.
Speaker 5:
[47:22] I ain't never lost nothing like that. I don't gamble like that. I do blackjack, but once I get down a couple grand, I'm done. You have a limit? I always come in with a number in my head, depending on how much money. Like lately, a couple grand.
Speaker 6:
[47:35] You gamble too, man?
Speaker 5:
[47:36] You gonna gamble it too? I gamble once every two or three years. Literally, I go to casinos once every two or three years. It's just not my thing.
Speaker 1:
[47:42] I don't play in those casinos because I know my personality.
Speaker 3:
[47:46] Yeah, you shouldn't.
Speaker 5:
[47:46] That's why I don't go. That's why I don't do it.
Speaker 3:
[47:48] Like, dog, I ain't gonna hold you if it was a casino that was close to me, I'd be in it.
Speaker 5:
[47:53] When I was in Philly, I used to go more because it was so close. I had to actually stop myself because I started to do the Black Jack apps on the phone to get good at it, to make sure I mastered it, to keep my odds as tight as possible.
Speaker 1:
[48:02] In the grips.
Speaker 5:
[48:03] Yeah, in the grips. And I didn't even know you couldn't even call me when I was in the grip. So I had nobody to lean on. So I just stopped.
Speaker 2:
[48:09] That shit different.
Speaker 3:
[48:11] No, it's a thing.
Speaker 4:
[48:12] It is, for sure.
Speaker 3:
[48:13] It's the biggest part. Oxygen in the room, you be alert. Come around, get in the windows. Features free.
Speaker 1:
[48:19] They send a little hot baddie.
Speaker 7:
[48:21] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[48:22] Massages now?
Speaker 2:
[48:23] Yeah. All right.
Speaker 3:
[48:24] You want a drink? Here you go. Massage girl, come around.
Speaker 5:
[48:27] Yeah. They know what they're doing. We were the same kids in January. They did this shit. No place had food or liquor except the casino. After midnight, so long as we get a drink, we'll just sit at the table and do this. You're like, it, I'm here. Let me put 100 down. Let me put 200.
Speaker 1:
[48:38] And even that. You're going to distract me by massage. You talking about the shoulders.
Speaker 4:
[48:44] I'm sure it could go elsewhere.
Speaker 1:
[48:46] We gon go elsewhere.
Speaker 7:
[48:49] I'm sure you're getting a handy at the table.
Speaker 3:
[48:51] Maybe by the ice cream room.
Speaker 7:
[48:54] Hit me means something totally different.
Speaker 2:
[48:57] I double down.
Speaker 3:
[49:00] You go to the bars and shit out there, like the restaurants, whatever, they got them just at the bar. Yeah, everything is different.
Speaker 5:
[49:07] Flip, you gamble?
Speaker 6:
[49:08] No.
Speaker 5:
[49:08] You live a clean life, man. You don't gamble, you don't drink, you don't do drugs, man.
Speaker 3:
[49:11] You don't eat ketchup.
Speaker 1:
[49:12] Yo, just know that if I didn't have this little thing going with Marc, I let a good one go just now.
Speaker 6:
[49:17] Yeah, no, you should let it go.
Speaker 5:
[49:19] I'm throwing it at the room.
Speaker 6:
[49:20] I let a good one go just now.
Speaker 1:
[49:22] But I'm here in the power of friendship, boy. He can't trick me.
Speaker 6:
[49:24] Hold on, fuck our friendship. Let it go.
Speaker 1:
[49:26] No, never that. We got to get the private. Any private time?
Speaker 3:
[49:29] He said you gamble, you just don't play cards.
Speaker 6:
[49:32] I gamble my life.
Speaker 2:
[49:35] That too, maybe.
Speaker 6:
[49:38] No, I went to the casino one time. Like I said, Conn put $20 in this shit called, what's this shit called? I forgot.
Speaker 5:
[49:44] Slot machine?
Speaker 6:
[49:45] No, not slot machine. I spent some cards like bank and I forgot what it's called. It's not coming to me, but I made $4,000 off of it. Then the next day I went back.
Speaker 3:
[49:57] You made $4,000 off of $20?
Speaker 6:
[49:59] Yeah, Conceded put $20 in that shit for me. He just put a ticket. How much you get him? $4,000. I didn't give him nothing. He said I should have gave him something, but you should have. no.
Speaker 1:
[50:09] Your son, tell him about the time you lost all your money.
Speaker 6:
[50:14] I swear. I went the next day and I lost it all, and I never went back again.
Speaker 4:
[50:22] I'm sorry you went through that. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[50:25] Because you ain't give them your man.
Speaker 6:
[50:27] He's rich, You put $20 for your man.
Speaker 3:
[50:31] And you hit.
Speaker 6:
[50:32] You hit.
Speaker 8:
[50:33] I was there all day.
Speaker 3:
[50:34] You want four bands.
Speaker 6:
[50:35] I don't, yeah, he left by the time I couldn't find him. So I'm supposed to still set it out? you won't.
Speaker 5:
[50:43] I owe who?
Speaker 1:
[50:43] I don't owe nobody.
Speaker 5:
[50:45] That's not what he's about to say.
Speaker 1:
[50:46] It ain't a soul on this earth I owe.
Speaker 5:
[50:47] Flip, you feel like you owe?
Speaker 6:
[50:48] Do you feel old? My man know what he got for me. Do you feel old? I'm not old, but my man.
Speaker 5:
[50:54] I just hit him.
Speaker 1:
[50:54] Okay, the old word is triggering.
Speaker 6:
[50:56] Okay, my fault, Paul, but you know what you got for me.
Speaker 1:
[50:58] But I did have something for you, and by your man, I should still have it.
Speaker 6:
[51:03] Yes, you do got it. I even hit you up.
Speaker 5:
[51:05] I feel like he said fuck that.
Speaker 6:
[51:08] No, he didn't.
Speaker 5:
[51:09] I think he did on Friday. I'm not even being funny.
Speaker 3:
[51:11] And you don't got no little $2500 or nothing.
Speaker 5:
[51:12] No, no, no, he was on the BTS tonight.
Speaker 10:
[51:13] Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:
[51:14] You can't get him back in blood, bitch.
Speaker 6:
[51:16] I didn't hit y'all real good. Give me a second. You said Friday the money that you got for me?
Speaker 1:
[51:20] I wasn't even here half of Friday.
Speaker 5:
[51:22] Yeah, you said on the half you were, not the half you weren't.
Speaker 6:
[51:24] I can't believe you said that.
Speaker 1:
[51:25] You listening to Marc?
Speaker 5:
[51:26] Look at, listen to the BTS.
Speaker 1:
[51:27] You letting Marc divide, oh shit. You letting Marc divide the first shit?
Speaker 6:
[51:31] I can't believe you did that. Not only that, you took me out the picture. You didn't get in my drop. You ignored me. Don't worry, bro.
Speaker 5:
[51:36] Flip, what picture?
Speaker 6:
[51:37] Don't worry.
Speaker 1:
[51:38] I posted the picture of Jade Cargill. Check out that Jade Cargill episode on Patreon. But when I went to do the post on Instagram and do the multiple pictures.
Speaker 5:
[51:48] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[51:49] Whatever your first picture is, the format of that, the rest of them have to be in. And I didn't realize that until after I had already published.
Speaker 5:
[51:56] And so Flip was cut out of the picture.
Speaker 6:
[52:00] But not only that, but I gave you that rundown in the text.
Speaker 1:
[52:04] I should have formatted differently.
Speaker 5:
[52:06] Reposted, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[52:07] I should have formatted differently. And as far as the money, I never said I wasn't giving you the rest of the bonus money. I said I'm not giving it to you while you're having fun.
Speaker 5:
[52:15] That's fair. That's actually what he said.
Speaker 1:
[52:16] Yeah, I'm not giving it to you while you're having fun. Yeah, never that.
Speaker 5:
[52:20] How you feel about that? How you feel about that?
Speaker 1:
[52:22] This in Trinidad turned up.
Speaker 7:
[52:24] I don't like that.
Speaker 1:
[52:24] 90 degrees, Nila Blackman looking good.
Speaker 9:
[52:27] That's when he need the money.
Speaker 5:
[52:28] That's when he need it.
Speaker 7:
[52:28] Never that.
Speaker 1:
[52:29] That's never going to happen.
Speaker 9:
[52:32] What?
Speaker 1:
[52:32] You can get it when you're home, chilling, back in New Jersey. How you going to make it? Regular daggler, nah.
Speaker 6:
[52:38] And you call yourself a good friend.
Speaker 1:
[52:40] I don't call myself that.
Speaker 2:
[52:44] Who the fuck calls? I don't call myself that.
Speaker 3:
[52:50] Yo, he might...
Speaker 5:
[52:52] That's fucked up, Joe.
Speaker 1:
[52:53] What happened, brother?
Speaker 2:
[52:54] Nothing.
Speaker 6:
[52:56] You handled it different. I can't call the... Should I call the white man?
Speaker 3:
[53:00] What did I handle different?
Speaker 6:
[53:02] Pay my bread, bro.
Speaker 3:
[53:03] I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 6:
[53:05] Pay my bread.
Speaker 7:
[53:05] Or else.
Speaker 10:
[53:06] He'd be dry snitching.
Speaker 7:
[53:07] He didn't snitch.
Speaker 3:
[53:08] He'd be miscommunicating.
Speaker 6:
[53:10] Pay my bread. That's it. I will. All right, cool.
Speaker 7:
[53:12] We can do it now.
Speaker 5:
[53:14] Remember how you were saying Offset should just pay it because he got it and the idea of Offset owing Lil Tjay money is crazy. That's Lil Tjay.
Speaker 6:
[53:21] That is Lil Tjay.
Speaker 7:
[53:21] That is Lil Tjay.
Speaker 5:
[53:24] So to keep the spirit of friendship going.
Speaker 6:
[53:25] Well, my name is Tjay, but I'm not Lil. Watch how fucking mousy I talk to me.
Speaker 10:
[53:29] Agreed and agreed.
Speaker 5:
[53:30] So pay him his money.
Speaker 1:
[53:33] I don't have cash.
Speaker 6:
[53:35] Cash app.
Speaker 3:
[53:35] App Pay.
Speaker 1:
[53:36] I'm past my limit.
Speaker 6:
[53:38] Well, you're not.
Speaker 7:
[53:39] I am. Zell.
Speaker 1:
[53:40] I'm past.
Speaker 2:
[53:40] I don't have Zell.
Speaker 5:
[53:42] You don't got Zell.
Speaker 2:
[53:44] Wow.
Speaker 3:
[53:44] You got Baker County.
Speaker 2:
[53:45] That's a gift.
Speaker 3:
[53:46] You got Apple Pay. That goes direct. There's no limit on that.
Speaker 5:
[53:48] You ain't got to do nothing.
Speaker 1:
[53:49] I'll hit wealth management and tell them to send you. Wealth management. Oh shit.
Speaker 5:
[53:55] That's how you know is making it worse.
Speaker 6:
[53:57] Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:
[53:57] Oh yeah.
Speaker 6:
[53:58] The game I was playing was Baccarat. I just remembered that.
Speaker 3:
[54:00] Baccarat.
Speaker 6:
[54:01] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[54:02] You said the bank. I thought it was.
Speaker 1:
[54:03] He popped at the Baccarat, I tell you, he want to come hit me for $500, I'm not.
Speaker 5:
[54:07] You're trying to tell me how to spend his money.
Speaker 1:
[54:10] Word.
Speaker 3:
[54:10] And when he is supposed to get his money.
Speaker 5:
[54:14] His bonus money.
Speaker 3:
[54:15] When you're having fun, I'm not giving you money. You got to be home.
Speaker 1:
[54:17] Funny shit, I almost text him my taxes. Like when he was asking for, yo, you got $500? No. I don't.
Speaker 6:
[54:25] Why would you text me your taxes?
Speaker 1:
[54:26] So you can know I don't have it. I don't have it. Sorry. I don't have it. I know. It's unbelievable. I don't have it. It's a tough one. I'm strapped. Indeed unbelievable. I'm strapped. I don't have it. When I have it, you'll be the first person to have it. When I have it, you'll be the first person to have it. I promise you. I promise you that.
Speaker 6:
[54:45] No, you said that last time.
Speaker 1:
[54:46] My word, bond.
Speaker 6:
[54:47] It's all right. Your word what?
Speaker 1:
[54:49] Bond.
Speaker 6:
[54:50] Your word is.
Speaker 1:
[54:52] My word is bond.
Speaker 9:
[54:53] Your word is bond.
Speaker 1:
[54:57] Well, we got we done. We're praying for everybody that got shot over the weekend.
Speaker 6:
[55:01] Word. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[55:02] If you got shot over the weekend.
Speaker 4:
[55:03] On Easter Sunday.
Speaker 1:
[55:05] Hold your head, yo.
Speaker 6:
[55:06] Damn.
Speaker 3:
[55:06] I'm gonna get you a different.
Speaker 1:
[55:08] I was watching the news. Five-year-old fell out the window in the Bronx. But they didn't wait till, they waited till the end of the story to say, he's in stable condition. He's safe. He's in the hospital. And I was like, all right, thank God. But then I was like, man, in the 80s, we used to always fall out the window. Cat, the cat fell out the window. fell out the window. That shit used to be a thing.
Speaker 7:
[55:34] It did.
Speaker 8:
[55:34] I'm talking about the 80s and the 90s.
Speaker 7:
[55:36] Nobody ever fell out the window.
Speaker 5:
[55:37] People fell out the windows.
Speaker 1:
[55:38] You're trying to climb some shit, escape some shit, you're running around.
Speaker 3:
[55:41] They learn from the error of their ways. They created building standards that would dictate that you have bars on your window.
Speaker 1:
[55:48] everybody that had one parent on drugs and lived in a building and had a cat, that cat fell out the window before.
Speaker 2:
[55:55] I believe you. And what I'm telling you is-
Speaker 1:
[55:57] And live to tell about it. The landlord-
Speaker 7:
[55:58] My cat fell from the ninth floor, in 1809 projects and lived.
Speaker 3:
[56:05] And the landlord lost the buildings and the new landlord said, uh, liability, we're gonna screw these bars in and keep it pushing.
Speaker 1:
[56:13] So down south, I stayed downtown, right? And I don't usually stay downtown. But it was, like, nicer over there. But it wasn't nicer. It was nicer than I have seen it in my recent trip. So I went to Michael Porter and went to call the mayor and got to- found out what the tea is. Apparently, there's some niggas out there, there's brothers, like the Davies brothers, and they went and approached the city and-
Speaker 3:
[56:39] Killed them.
Speaker 1:
[56:39] Did some shit.
Speaker 3:
[56:40] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[56:41] And now they buying up everything.
Speaker 3:
[56:42] Yeah, it should have been the Budden brothers.
Speaker 1:
[56:45] Yeah, Michael Budden. Tell me, Michael Budden. Call me, man.
Speaker 10:
[56:47] Let's do it.
Speaker 1:
[56:49] They look nice down here, though.
Speaker 3:
[56:50] No, them ain't black.
Speaker 1:
[56:51] That's why you talk to the mayor. Did Marc- did Dr. Marc Lamont Hill tell y'all that his Memphis grift worked?
Speaker 5:
[56:58] It's not a Memphis grift.
Speaker 1:
[57:00] Did Marc tell y'all that his Memphis grift worked?
Speaker 2:
[57:03] Share.
Speaker 7:
[57:04] I don't have a Memphis grift. Share.
Speaker 2:
[57:05] Share, brother.
Speaker 5:
[57:05] I don't have a Memphis grift, but I will say shout out to all the people in the city of Memphis who reached out. I stand with you in solidarity as we try to, you know, build together. So if there's any way I can support your city, just let me know. Just call. I'll be there.
Speaker 3:
[57:20] Build, be in the year.
Speaker 1:
[57:21] The mayor hit Marc.
Speaker 9:
[57:22] Appropriate word.
Speaker 5:
[57:23] The mayor did. I was off the record, but yes. But yeah, you hit me. And salute to the mayor who's doing everything he can to keep the city going, to build and grow the city, to protect the city, and hopefully to renew the stadium contract, because I think it's so important and vital to the city of Memphis.
Speaker 3:
[57:42] Since we bring in off the record stuff, did anybody hit you about Marc's comments?
Speaker 2:
[57:47] Marc's comments, Marc's comments, Marc's comments.
Speaker 1:
[57:50] Marc's comments, Marc's comments.
Speaker 2:
[57:52] Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 7:
[57:52] Oh shit I forgot. Yeah, I put that shit right in the group chat. I got you.
Speaker 1:
[57:58] Yeah, French ball hit me by that bullshit fucking Marc Lamont Hill said, yo, when them be hitting me about something my co-host said, and my co-host ain't around, you phony.
Speaker 5:
[58:08] You kick our back in.
Speaker 3:
[58:10] that guy, I'm going to walk you on that bullshit.
Speaker 2:
[58:13] What did he say?
Speaker 10:
[58:14] He phony.
Speaker 2:
[58:15] Oh yeah, because this shit is a group chat.
Speaker 1:
[58:17] He told Marc Lamont about his grizzlies take, not told him up, but he just offered a-
Speaker 4:
[58:23] Pushbacks, a pushback.
Speaker 5:
[58:24] A different take.
Speaker 10:
[58:24] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[58:25] I still disagree with him.
Speaker 1:
[58:26] A different perspective. And I put it in there just to get a good laugh and I was like, yo, every part somebody hit me about something I didn't say at all. And that was it.
Speaker 5:
[58:36] Yeah. Some people were ticked off.
Speaker 1:
[58:39] What I mean later.
Speaker 5:
[58:39] Yeah, I'll tell you later. More people, I got more support and love from that than I did people who were ticked off.
Speaker 4:
[58:44] That's all that matters.
Speaker 5:
[58:45] That's all that matters.
Speaker 4:
[58:45] That's all that matters.
Speaker 5:
[58:46] It's all about the love and the friendship.
Speaker 4:
[58:48] This is true.
Speaker 3:
[58:49] Friendship.
Speaker 4:
[58:50] Friendship is important. This podcast is based on friendship.
Speaker 5:
[58:52] It is based on friendship.
Speaker 3:
[58:53] It's just what I do.
Speaker 4:
[58:54] Always has been, always will be.
Speaker 1:
[58:56] You know, Nat, are we doing it? We doing it.
Speaker 9:
[59:02] What happened? He gave me $50.
Speaker 1:
[59:04] Oh, he's paying, because we have bros. I'm looking at the wallet.
Speaker 5:
[59:05] I pay bets.
Speaker 3:
[59:06] It's a nice wallet.
Speaker 5:
[59:07] Is it?
Speaker 2:
[59:07] Is it?
Speaker 1:
[59:07] Let me see the wallet.
Speaker 5:
[59:08] It's not nice.
Speaker 3:
[59:09] I see it, though.
Speaker 2:
[59:10] Yeah, you can see it. That is a nice wallet.
Speaker 1:
[59:11] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[59:11] It's not the worst wallet.
Speaker 10:
[59:13] I don't know.
Speaker 5:
[59:16] It's just a wallet.
Speaker 3:
[59:17] See, it's a grown man wallet.
Speaker 1:
[59:20] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[59:21] Why are you pointing at me?
Speaker 1:
[59:22] Who don't have a grown man wallet in?
Speaker 3:
[59:24] No, y'all niggas was laughing, because the last time... No, we laughed at the condition of your wallet. Your said my wallet was this fat. Your wallet was holding on by a thread.
Speaker 1:
[59:33] Only your wallet.
Speaker 10:
[59:36] What?
Speaker 2:
[59:37] What's wrong with this, man?
Speaker 10:
[59:40] He gay.
Speaker 6:
[59:52] He good on that, that's you good. Not my problem. You're gonna knock me out over here. And I can't wait. I can't wait to get dropped on the ground. I swear to God.
Speaker 7:
[60:08] You got to do it.
Speaker 6:
[60:10] You good, get up and look at his face. I was texting you and all that, you trying to violate my texts, making jokes. No, I'm good.
Speaker 2:
[60:20] I mean, listen, I ain't gonna fight you for it.
Speaker 1:
[60:22] We on air, right? You took it.
Speaker 2:
[60:23] You took it.
Speaker 1:
[60:25] But there's no way for you to win it. There's no way for you to win this.
Speaker 6:
[60:29] Are you acting like Gucci when he told you?
Speaker 5:
[60:30] I think you said if you hold the 60, he ain't give you the other 450.
Speaker 8:
[60:33] You keep that.
Speaker 2:
[60:34] You keep that.
Speaker 5:
[60:35] That doesn't sound right.
Speaker 7:
[60:36] No, that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:
[60:37] That's that Mark Burke in my shade.
Speaker 7:
[60:39] That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 6:
[60:40] No, no, listen.
Speaker 3:
[60:41] The reason why he's saying that I gotta, I'm gonna get it one way or the other.
Speaker 6:
[60:45] No, he's not.
Speaker 7:
[60:46] Hold on to that. I don't really like cash anyway. No, he's not.
Speaker 4:
[60:48] I don't like cash. Yeah, I don't like cash.
Speaker 7:
[60:51] Don't worry about it.
Speaker 6:
[60:51] We're gonna do it in the back end.
Speaker 1:
[60:53] Old school when we needed to rent lower.
Speaker 6:
[60:57] We're gonna do it in the back end?
Speaker 1:
[60:58] No, old school.
Speaker 6:
[60:59] Let him do that. Let him do that.
Speaker 4:
[61:02] The back end. That seems inappropriate in the context of our conversation.
Speaker 6:
[61:04] Back end gang.
Speaker 1:
[61:05] Yo, but if you give me my money that I earned right this second.
Speaker 6:
[61:09] I earned money too.
Speaker 1:
[61:12] Alright, so we gotta do it the hard way then.
Speaker 7:
[61:14] Listen, now it's time for my favorite part of the show.
Speaker 9:
[61:18] Price Picks!
Speaker 1:
[61:21] Alright, shoot your shot on Price Picks and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. That's right, Price Picks is now giving you $50 in lineups when you sign up and play your very first $5. Price Picks makes every dunk, every dime and every board that much more exciting. So don't miss out on this chance to get started on America's number one app for sports picks. Price Picks is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is select two or more players, look at their projected stat line and pick more or less for your chance to win big. Oh, it also just, it just, I was just reminded, Parks, there's a petition on line for you to do the picks.
Speaker 4:
[62:06] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[62:07] Because you seem to do okay.
Speaker 4:
[62:10] Sure.
Speaker 1:
[62:10] They don't want them, actually they said you and Freeze instead of me and Ish.
Speaker 5:
[62:15] I like that.
Speaker 6:
[62:16] I like that switch, that's fire. Don't say it. I think that's fire.
Speaker 3:
[62:21] Damn, Parks took the chain, now he taking the picks from you.
Speaker 6:
[62:25] Every time I drink water, y'all need to stop. You have to come up and spit out, stop.
Speaker 5:
[62:29] Let him do it. You're sitting in his seat on Friday.
Speaker 2:
[62:31] Take a seat?
Speaker 6:
[62:32] Parks, what you got for us today?
Speaker 4:
[62:33] I didn't do any research for today.
Speaker 1:
[62:35] What if he start doing the picks and the fans start getting mad?
Speaker 5:
[62:38] They gonna love this thing.
Speaker 6:
[62:41] The Parks Budden Podcast.
Speaker 1:
[62:44] Listen, on Price Picks, how you play is completely up to you. If you want flexibility, choose Flex Play, where you get paid even if one of your picks misses. And if you want the biggest payouts, go for the power play. No matter your play, Price Picks is a great way to put your takes to the test. All right, let's give them the ish picks of the week. We are going with Jalen Green for more than 22.5 points and rebounds. John Collins for more than 11.5 points. Brandon Podzemski, Pods and Warriors for more than 15 points. And Jalen Brown for more than 5.5 rebounds.
Speaker 2:
[63:24] Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:
[63:25] Don't forget to download the app right this very second and use promo code JBP to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 line up only on Price Picks where it's good to be right. And I guess it's only right that we congratulate the UCLA, the women's basketball college basketball team and Michigan for the championship. They won. Round of applause. Let me hit it for them, man.
Speaker 5:
[63:55] No surprises in either. No surprises.
Speaker 1:
[63:58] Shut up, Marc.
Speaker 5:
[63:59] No, you thought UCLA was going to lose?
Speaker 1:
[64:01] They both were surprises.
Speaker 6:
[64:02] I didn't think they were going to beat them like that.
Speaker 5:
[64:03] You thought South Carolina was going to beat UCLA?
Speaker 1:
[64:05] They both were surprises.
Speaker 5:
[64:07] It wasn't Michigan the favorite by 6.5?
Speaker 4:
[64:09] They were the favorite.
Speaker 3:
[64:10] I didn't think UCLA was going to do what they did.
Speaker 5:
[64:13] I didn't think they were going to mollywap them, but I didn't think they were going to win. No, I'm saying the winner wasn't a surprise. I didn't think it was going to be competitive.
Speaker 1:
[64:18] It wasn't a game at all. They had 22 points at half time.
Speaker 3:
[64:21] That's why I named it close.
Speaker 5:
[64:22] But I thought UCLA was going to win. I'm saying I thought they had better team.
Speaker 1:
[64:25] Why? Because the big white girl?
Speaker 10:
[64:26] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[64:28] You, yo. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2:
[64:29] You're the sportiest.
Speaker 5:
[64:30] I wasn't rooting for him. I was rooting for Dawn Staley. I'm rooting for USC.
Speaker 2:
[64:33] Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[64:33] Bring it back home.
Speaker 5:
[64:34] She's from Philly.
Speaker 1:
[64:34] Come on back home.
Speaker 5:
[64:35] Dawn Staley is my girl. I love Dawn Staley. I was definitely rooting for her on Friday night. My God.
Speaker 4:
[64:41] Oh, the handshake game.
Speaker 5:
[64:44] Yeah. By the way, that was a good game. To me, that was the kind of game I liked the National Championship to look like in terms of being closely competitive even down in that fourth quarter when she had that. There's like a turnover with six minutes left on a lazy pass and they cut it to two. And I was like, oh shit, this could get dangerous.
Speaker 1:
[64:58] Great game overshadowed by white arrogance, by that bullshit Geno did. That was absolute bullshit and fuckery.
Speaker 5:
[65:05] Geno was uncalled for. He's a dick.
Speaker 1:
[65:07] Unacceptable. See, I didn't know he was a dick, but then all the stories came out about everything Pat Summitt ever said about him.
Speaker 5:
[65:14] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[65:15] The long history between him and Dawn that I was unaware of.
Speaker 4:
[65:19] Oh, they both had beef?
Speaker 1:
[65:21] Not that they had beef, but they've worked together for quite a long time.
Speaker 3:
[65:25] He's coached her.
Speaker 5:
[65:25] She was his kid.
Speaker 4:
[65:26] Got it. I was unaware.
Speaker 5:
[65:29] Oh, wow. That was nasty. I mean, so there were a couple of things going on. Watching Geno Auriemma after their loss, just completely do the worst thing you can do as a coach, which is make a bunch of excuses and complain. On national TV, he immediately said, I got a player with a ripped jersey, and the ref is saying there's no foul. Then he's complaining about how Dawn Staley is yelling at the refs the whole game without getting, basically without getting attacked. Using curse words. Using curse words and all this shit. And saying, they got six fouls in this quarter. We didn't get any. Come on, it's the National Championship we're playing for. He's doing all this stuff on national TV seconds afterward. I know afterwards.
Speaker 3:
[66:03] No, during the game. You know when they interviewed a coach in the middle of the game? Yeah. He was saying shit in the middle of the game.
Speaker 5:
[66:08] He was doing that too.
Speaker 3:
[66:09] Using curse words, the whole shit. No shit. He was just not showing any level of professionalism or composure.
Speaker 4:
[66:15] Major sore loser vibes.
Speaker 5:
[66:16] Major sore loser. And of course, he said that she didn't shake my hand, right?
Speaker 4:
[66:20] At the beginning, right? At the beginning of the game? Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[66:22] Now, what's interesting is afterward, they showed the footage of the girl who was frustrated for a non-call, whatever. She ripped her own jersey. She didn't get her jersey ripped during a foul. He tried to make it sound like it was a foul so bad that her jersey got ripped. She ripped her own jersey with her hands, I mean. So that wasn't true. The handshake shit, I don't know what happened, but I know that's certainly not what you bring up right after you lose a game. Just say good game and walk off.
Speaker 1:
[66:45] He was tight. He was tight.
Speaker 2:
[66:47] He was tight.
Speaker 1:
[66:49] Understandably so, but the way he carried it out. It's unfortunate because part of knowing how to win is knowing how to lose.
Speaker 3:
[66:55] I was just about to say that. You come up here and whip people's asses every single year, and you expect them to exhibit a level of professionalism after they lose. You also have to be able to display the same exact thing. You win enough. There's no such thing, but Connecticut has been probably top three college women's basketball teams in history. You know what I'm saying? Like yo dog, learn how to lose, my. It don't happen every year for you, so I just think it was corny.
Speaker 1:
[67:25] And the apology was a mess.
Speaker 3:
[67:27] Horrible.
Speaker 5:
[67:28] It should have cleaned up with bad people.
Speaker 1:
[67:30] People don't know how to apologize. He apologized to the staff, he said, the players and the staff.
Speaker 7:
[67:36] He'll just apologize to the lady that you dissed.
Speaker 3:
[67:39] Or maybe he don't feel wrong in that.
Speaker 6:
[67:43] And it hurts more when somebody that, you know.
Speaker 5:
[67:45] He clearly was forced to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 6:
[67:47] It hurts more when somebody that you, I guess, she worked under him or whatever. Like now when the-
Speaker 3:
[67:52] She was a player under him too.
Speaker 6:
[67:53] When the protege outshines the master, it hurts a little more. Why?
Speaker 3:
[67:57] You should be proud that Yo, they came from my tree. I've watched this young lady go from being a basketball player to an assistant coach to a head coach.
Speaker 8:
[68:06] And I'm proud of you and your successes.
Speaker 6:
[68:07] I agree. I'm with you. You know what I'm saying? I don't like that shit and sting more.
Speaker 3:
[68:10] Actually, it should take some of this thing off, in my opinion.
Speaker 6:
[68:14] I lost to a person that I helped mold.
Speaker 4:
[68:15] Yeah, at least it was you that beat him.
Speaker 5:
[68:17] He don't think that way. He said, there's no excuse for how I handled the end of the game versus South Carolina. It's unlike what I do and what our standard is here at Connecticut. I want to apologize to the staff and the team at South Carolina. It was uncalled for in how I reacted. The story should be how well South Carolina played. And I don't want my actions to detract from that. I've had a great relationship with their staff and I sincerely want to apologize to them.
Speaker 4:
[68:38] I'm a little late for that.
Speaker 5:
[68:40] Yeah. It's whack. That was whack. I want to apologize to Dawn Staley and her staff.
Speaker 3:
[68:44] Yeah, Dawn Staley and her staff.
Speaker 6:
[68:47] Yes.
Speaker 2:
[68:48] Making fun of you.
Speaker 6:
[68:49] You got the little... The sweater guy.
Speaker 3:
[68:52] The fuzzies on you.
Speaker 6:
[68:55] Yo, stop that and tell the to fix it, yo. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 5:
[69:00] Oh, yeah. I put this sweater on. It's a new sweater and I just got some fuzzies on. Yo, my, you want it?
Speaker 2:
[69:06] It wouldn't do that if it was a Dodger's hoodie.
Speaker 5:
[69:09] Oh, as opposed to our beloved hero Malcolm X?
Speaker 1:
[69:12] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[69:13] Oh, yeah. I'd prefer Malcolm X.
Speaker 1:
[69:15] I ain't never seen Malcolm X in no Dodger color nowhere. All right, we taking this fucking... I didn't know. What the fuck is wrong with Marc, y'all? We taking this...
Speaker 5:
[69:27] What colors you see Malcolm X in?
Speaker 1:
[69:28] Not that. Not Dodger blue. What the hell, Marc?
Speaker 5:
[69:32] Do you feel like if Malcolm X wore red, white, and blue, you'd know?
Speaker 8:
[69:35] Yeah, I feel like that.
Speaker 5:
[69:36] Okay.
Speaker 4:
[69:37] I feel like that.
Speaker 5:
[69:38] In 63, he traveled to Cuba with Fidel Castro.
Speaker 2:
[69:40] Oh, God.
Speaker 5:
[69:41] Their colors are red, white, and blue.
Speaker 2:
[69:42] Oh, God.
Speaker 1:
[69:43] Knock it off.
Speaker 5:
[69:44] He's in solidarity with the Global South.
Speaker 1:
[69:46] Is that an official...
Speaker 5:
[69:46] Did the family approve that hoodie? As a member of the board...
Speaker 1:
[69:49] Or you just went to your little print-up shop you'd be going to.
Speaker 7:
[69:51] All right, stop, stop, stop.
Speaker 5:
[69:52] Go ahead. As a member of the board of the Malcolm X Foundation and the Audubon and the Shabazz Center, yes, I can say it's been approved.
Speaker 3:
[70:02] Oh my God!
Speaker 7:
[70:11] Where were we?
Speaker 1:
[70:12] Where were we? Oh, that horrible apology.
Speaker 3:
[70:14] That stupid ass apology.
Speaker 1:
[70:15] That horrible apology.
Speaker 4:
[70:16] That was the best.
Speaker 5:
[70:18] Yeah, man, that was awful.
Speaker 1:
[70:19] Congratulations to Michigan and UCLA, man. That's what I got. That's what I got. South Carolina was very quiet that day. I was out there. Oh, yeah, shit. I was out there for both, actually.
Speaker 9:
[70:32] I was out there for both.
Speaker 1:
[70:33] Boy, when they won that...
Speaker 4:
[70:35] Loud.
Speaker 9:
[70:36] Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:
[70:36] The bars was lit.
Speaker 4:
[70:38] I bet.
Speaker 1:
[70:38] Oh, my God. The streets was lit.
Speaker 4:
[70:40] I bet.
Speaker 7:
[70:40] It was a party.
Speaker 1:
[70:42] That next game...
Speaker 4:
[70:42] A little quieter.
Speaker 1:
[70:43] You could hear a pin drop, tumbleweeds, nobody in the streets until the night hit. Then people went outside. And it was scarier for some reason. It was scarier.
Speaker 2:
[70:55] Dirt bikes, motorcycles.
Speaker 7:
[70:58] They're tight now.
Speaker 1:
[71:00] I'm telling you, South Carolina had a different tone after that game.
Speaker 2:
[71:04] Hey, brother.
Speaker 1:
[71:06] I'm telling you, when white people say brother in certain states, it has different meanings.
Speaker 10:
[71:14] It does.
Speaker 1:
[71:16] The brother in South Carolina after they lost... Different brother... .on some Aryan shit. I don't know what they were... They was on some... I went right to my room, tucked in early. They was like...
Speaker 5:
[71:30] Waiting to let you go.
Speaker 10:
[71:31] Yeah.
Speaker 6:
[71:32] Yeehaw.
Speaker 9:
[71:32] Wait, what?
Speaker 7:
[71:33] I got out of there, boy.
Speaker 10:
[71:36] What?
Speaker 6:
[71:36] You want to do this now, brother? We can do it now, brother.
Speaker 7:
[71:39] I'm gonna dodge, man.
Speaker 6:
[71:41] I'm gonna clean the brother, too.
Speaker 1:
[71:43] I see you got the Angel Reese trade written on the board. I don't have enough knowledge about the trade and why I don't know if she went to Atlanta.
Speaker 3:
[71:50] Yeah, she traded to the Atlanta Dream for two first-rounders.
Speaker 5:
[71:52] Yeah, it's a great move for, I think, both sides. Chicago wants to rebuild. Obviously, Angel Reese is worth a lot as a young talent, a double-double machine. But they want to rebuild. And Atlanta wants to have a competitive lineup, a very competitive lineup right now. And their front line right now, Angel Reese makes it very, very tough. So, it's a good trade for everybody. And I think Angel Reese, as a young star, is going to do well in Atlanta. I think Atlanta is the perfect city for it.
Speaker 6:
[72:21] And you support her, you know, because you know how you feel about black players.
Speaker 2:
[72:23] So, you support her.
Speaker 6:
[72:25] Or you think about Kate.
Speaker 1:
[72:26] Talk about some Malcolm X.
Speaker 10:
[72:27] He's such a phony.
Speaker 2:
[72:30] Think what I do.
Speaker 5:
[72:32] I just gave the people the-
Speaker 6:
[72:33] You don't care about black players, but we know.
Speaker 5:
[72:34] I do care about black. I'm a huge Angel Reese fan.
Speaker 1:
[72:37] I'm on Angel Reese's board of electors.
Speaker 3:
[72:43] That's an assemblyman for the city of Atlanta.
Speaker 5:
[72:48] Assemblyman Kate this, yo. But shout out to her, man. I think it's a good trade. I think it's a good look for her career. I think it's a great place to be. I think it's a good team. I think it's a winning situation right away.
Speaker 1:
[72:58] Now, we could finally do the Magic City shit.
Speaker 6:
[73:01] Oh shit.
Speaker 1:
[73:05] All right, Badger.
Speaker 2:
[73:07] You think it's a really good gym?
Speaker 3:
[73:16] I got like 40 of them.
Speaker 1:
[73:24] Congratulations, Deandre Reese. I'm sure she'll have a blast in Atlanta.
Speaker 6:
[73:28] No doubt.
Speaker 1:
[73:30] Go Hawkeats.
Speaker 3:
[73:32] The dreams.
Speaker 5:
[73:33] They're called The Dream. Hawkeyes is so much better.
Speaker 9:
[73:36] Hawkeyes, bro. This thing is crazy.
Speaker 3:
[73:39] Atlanta Dream.
Speaker 7:
[73:40] The Hawkeyes.
Speaker 3:
[73:43] The Peacocks?
Speaker 2:
[73:44] They're stupid, y'all.
Speaker 1:
[73:46] Alright, come on, let's get into some important issues.
Speaker 5:
[73:49] There's also been, this has been a week of very interesting and big performances in the music side. We should talk about them. First, I guess Kanye is the biggest thing.
Speaker 2:
[74:00] Lucky you.
Speaker 5:
[74:02] Lucky you.
Speaker 3:
[74:03] Don't worry, we got some more after Kanye.
Speaker 5:
[74:05] We'll start with Kanye. The headline is, we're sitting here is that the Wireless Festival has been canceled.
Speaker 3:
[74:12] Well, before we do that, because you said music performances.
Speaker 5:
[74:13] That's true.
Speaker 3:
[74:14] We want to start with Friday, where he did the Night 2 at SoFi. And it was one for the ages. The live stream went out. I don't know if y'all watch that. I put the link out.
Speaker 4:
[74:29] I tried, but it wouldn't work for me. And it worked? Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[74:34] Kanye's a problem with a live show, bro. For sure. But the one we watched before, where we couldn't really hear the audio, now you can hear it.
Speaker 4:
[74:40] Oh, you can hear it in that one.
Speaker 3:
[74:41] You can hear it. This is official audio. So this was the way you want to watch it.
Speaker 5:
[74:45] Oh, man.
Speaker 3:
[74:47] And then he brought Travis Scott out for the father record. Again, these new songs from this bully album sound amazing in a live environment. And he brought Lauryn Hill out. That's like the takeaway from the show. He brought Lauryn Hill out towards the end of the show. They did All Falls Down for the first time ever. Amazing.
Speaker 4:
[75:08] With the real sample back?
Speaker 8:
[75:09] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[75:11] And then Lauryn had a small set of her own. She did a couple records. She brought her sons out to do some songs.
Speaker 5:
[75:19] I can't take that no more. Go ahead. I love... Lauryn Hill can do no wrong for me. I go to every Lauryn Hill show I can. But it's just as much as I think Miss Education is an amazing album, One for the Ages, it's been almost 30 years. There's only so many ways you can mix these songs.
Speaker 1:
[75:41] No, that's not true.
Speaker 5:
[75:42] I'm just ready for something different.
Speaker 3:
[75:45] She's giving you something different because she's doing a different version every time.
Speaker 5:
[75:48] I don't want to hear the reggae told version of X Factor.
Speaker 2:
[75:51] I want something different.
Speaker 3:
[75:53] Yo, watch your fucking mouth, watch your tongue, yo.
Speaker 1:
[75:56] I come to terms with people being immortalized off one album.
Speaker 2:
[75:59] Of course.
Speaker 1:
[76:00] Like, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2:
[76:01] Me too.
Speaker 1:
[76:01] If your album is...
Speaker 3:
[76:03] One of those...
Speaker 1:
[76:04] .is deserving of that and it ain't but so many of them, Lauren is on that list for me. Like, watching her come out with Kanye, watching her do the bougie shit, like watching... You know, Unplugged Shit was fired. But I'm totally fine with the miseducation of Lauren Hill being immortalized.
Speaker 4:
[76:19] Shit, that's where it all falls down sample codes from.
Speaker 9:
[76:22] So...
Speaker 1:
[76:24] I want to give props to the stage designer and the lighting guy, Oss Taylor from Baltimore. I had to look him up and find out who it was. That's how blown away I was by that stage and that lighting. And everything about that outside of the music, Kanye and every time he pops out like that, is one of the better visual artists that we've had in our lifetime.
Speaker 4:
[76:51] For sure. He is.
Speaker 1:
[76:51] Regardless of how you feel about his psyche and his mental health.
Speaker 4:
[76:54] Or other lifetimes. He's one of the best ever.
Speaker 1:
[76:56] Ever.
Speaker 3:
[76:57] Amazing artist all the way around.
Speaker 1:
[76:59] That's when he's in his back. And I don't blame, not that I don't blame, but I could see people seeing that show, seeing what he did three nights in a row and being like, you know what, let's try it over here. Let's try it over here. Right.
Speaker 3:
[77:13] Yeah, absolutely. What do you mean, let's try it over here? The Wireless Festival in the UK. But that was booked already before the show.
Speaker 4:
[77:22] I'm sure. A festival like this is not booked last minute.
Speaker 5:
[77:26] Well, it ain't booked no more.
Speaker 4:
[77:27] It ain't booked no more.
Speaker 5:
[77:28] That's important. And just on the SoFi thing, it took everything I had in me to listen to the album. I could never buy a Kanye ticket. I support growth. I believe in forgiveness. I just don't think. I haven't seen enough growth there for me to invest in Kanye.
Speaker 3:
[77:45] What could he do?
Speaker 5:
[77:46] I don't know. I'd have to think it through. But I would need to at least see some consistency. You know what I mean? Because to your point, Apologies, a company with merchandise and album rollouts to me is always a question mark. I give him the benefit of the doubt. I do think his mental health disclosure in the Wall Street Journal is true. All of that. But I need to see something else. I'm disturbed a little bit by how quickly we forgive. Which is why I was so excited to see the Wireless Festival. Although I haven't thought on that too. It's like everybody's not forgiven them that much. You know, when they say, well, you're not even allowed in the UK.
Speaker 4:
[78:18] Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 5:
[78:20] Because initially it was, when the festival was announced, the sponsors started pulling out. You had the Pepsi. It was four major sponsors.
Speaker 1:
[78:27] Diago, Pepsi. Pepsi was the biggest one. PayPal.
Speaker 4:
[78:31] It was also very big.
Speaker 1:
[78:33] PayPal.
Speaker 5:
[78:34] And there was a fourth one.
Speaker 1:
[78:35] And there was another one.
Speaker 3:
[78:36] Pepsi was like the official sponsor.
Speaker 4:
[78:38] Yeah, I believe so.
Speaker 3:
[78:39] So when they put their report out, it was like, oh, damn.
Speaker 6:
[78:41] So you said that you were happy that they... What did you say, Marc?
Speaker 5:
[78:45] I was happy to see the accountability that people stand out. I wish black people did that more. He was banned from the... The sponsors first said, hey, we're not rocking with this. I think there's some dishonesty there. Because clearly, you don't book a festival with Kanye West unless you've already spoken to the sponsors ahead of time and cleared some stuff.
Speaker 3:
[78:59] Well, there's a clip out now, an interview with the head of the festival who says, hey, before we even picked Kanye, we ran it by Pepsi.
Speaker 5:
[79:08] Right.
Speaker 3:
[79:08] Who okayed it. They knew we had Kanye as the headliner. They were okay with it.
Speaker 5:
[79:14] Right.
Speaker 3:
[79:15] And now, I guess, amidst all the backlash they pulled out, Pepsi will have deniability to say, hey, I don't know, you might have talked to him. You ain't talked to this person, and he got to make the call.
Speaker 1:
[79:24] Pepsi been on bullshit since Homeboy bought all of those Pepsi reward points and tried to buy an airplane.
Speaker 3:
[79:32] A fighter jet.
Speaker 1:
[79:32] And they ain't let them get the airplane.
Speaker 2:
[79:34] Fuck out of here, Pepsi.
Speaker 1:
[79:36] ain't drinking no soda, no women. Get that plane.
Speaker 3:
[79:39] I'm on his side with that still.
Speaker 1:
[79:42] He found a loophole.
Speaker 3:
[79:43] Yep.
Speaker 1:
[79:44] He won.
Speaker 3:
[79:45] And they ain't talk.
Speaker 2:
[79:47] Anyway, out of here, Pepsi.
Speaker 6:
[79:48] What was the hoopla? I don't understand what you're saying. What was the controversy? I mean, besides Kanye, after Kanye apologized, he did something else?
Speaker 8:
[79:57] No, no.
Speaker 3:
[79:59] We heard your apology, but we don't give a.
Speaker 5:
[80:00] We're not over the Nazi stuff. We're not over the Hitler stuff.
Speaker 3:
[80:02] You did 70 things, and then you apologized, and then you do another 25 things, and you apologize. Some is like, yo, dog, I'm not beat for your apology.
Speaker 6:
[80:10] Let me ask you a question. Yeah, I have a question for you, too. I have a question. When white people do it and they're easily forgiven, do you hold the same sentiments that you have? Yeah. Why would you be-
Speaker 5:
[80:19] Like who? Give me an example.
Speaker 6:
[80:20] One of them white people that go crazy.
Speaker 1:
[80:21] The one that they're using right now online is the Tourette's dude.
Speaker 6:
[80:25] Well, hold on.
Speaker 1:
[80:25] Is the Tourette's dude.
Speaker 5:
[80:26] Yeah, that's a good example. If you said next year at the Oscars, go ahead, flip, I apologize.
Speaker 6:
[80:30] No, no, Joe, this is your guy. Go ahead, go ahead, answer this question.
Speaker 1:
[80:33] That wasn't my question.
Speaker 5:
[80:35] I think he was giving an example for your question.
Speaker 6:
[80:36] He was giving an example for you. I forgot. What I was saying was you still hold, I don't agree with you saying that I'm happy that these people took a stance against Kanye West. Because he's a black man, number one. Number two, we should be more open to people acknowledging that they had some issues and seeking the help. I do understand what you're saying that it came with Merchant, and it came with a rollout, I'm with you 100%.
Speaker 3:
[81:04] But, real quick, this ain't the first time. That's my beef with Kanye. This ain't, if this is the first time, okay, maybe I can give you benefit of the doubt. But if this is like the fourth or fifth time, I see the pattern here. And now I look at more than just, okay, this is what you do.
Speaker 4:
[81:20] I think it's a timing thing. That was pretty recent though, when we were here talking about the magazine article.
Speaker 6:
[81:24] It sounds different coming from Marc though, because of what Marc stand for, to me. It sounds different coming from him, because of what you stand for.
Speaker 5:
[81:31] Well, first of all, I stand for justice. It just wants some black shit, which is my point. He said a whole bunch of anti-black shit. And I'm actually frustrated, as I said a few minutes ago, that black people don't stand on this harder. You know what I mean? Like, I also stand against anti-Semitism. I don't support anti-Semitism. He said some things that are awful. The Nazi stuff, mentioning Hitler. Who, by the way, don't fuck with black people either. So that's also anti-black. So there's all the levels to it, and I don't think it's okay for us to sweep it under the rug. I think what pisses me off is that none of these companies would have pulled out when he said slavery was a choice. None of these countries, when he said all the white lives matter stuff. When he was antagonizing black folk, none of these corporations would have pulled out. They are pulling out on this issue. I don't like that. But I'm consistent across the board.
Speaker 6:
[82:15] So do you believe that he was suffering from some... He had a mental health issue.
Speaker 5:
[82:20] I do.
Speaker 6:
[82:22] And now he's trying to get better.
Speaker 1:
[82:23] You just believe that doesn't excuse anything.
Speaker 5:
[82:25] I think it explains some of it, but also prior... If we accept his timeline for the mental health issues, he said wild shit before that. And he said wild shit in the middle of that.
Speaker 1:
[82:34] But I'm not going off his timeline. Why would I go off a sick person's timeline of their sickness?
Speaker 5:
[82:38] What I'm saying is the only reason we know that he's sick is because he said, look, I'm dealing with this illness over this period of time.
Speaker 7:
[82:44] I don't think that's true either.
Speaker 6:
[82:44] But you can use this...
Speaker 7:
[82:45] Wait, hold up a minute.
Speaker 1:
[82:46] That's not true. I agree. That is not the only way we know when somebody is sick.
Speaker 7:
[82:50] He has, before he ever got 10, 20 years, when his mom died... Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[82:55] He ain't been right since.
Speaker 1:
[82:56] And there's been mumblings of it. We didn't need him to come out and say, something's off about that guy. I say it every day when I see.
Speaker 5:
[83:03] That's true. That's fair. I agree with that point. I wasn't really saying anything different, but I guess...
Speaker 1:
[83:08] You were saying that we won't know unless he says it, and I disagree with that.
Speaker 5:
[83:11] I misspoke. I didn't mean that literally. Obviously, I've been saying for years, let's Kim has said it, other people have said it. There's no doubt Kanye has been dealing with issues. I guess what I'm saying is, if we take his apology on its face, maybe that's a better way of saying it. He's saying, I'm apologizing because this thing happened to me. I've been dealing with this stuff for this period of time. And I'm saying that if I accept that, if I accept him at his word, that ain't the only time he said fucked up shit. But even in the midst of that fucked up shit, I have to now, I have to trust him. And I'm saying, give it some time.
Speaker 1:
[83:38] I don't yet.
Speaker 5:
[83:39] Yeah. Give it some time.
Speaker 3:
[83:41] It's too soon. Not just that. Fair enough. Even if you came to this realization that, now I could publicly address my mental health issues. Cool. If he would have done that a year and a half ago, then comes the new album, then comes this rollout, then comes all of these things, it's a little bit more tolerable. It looks less cynical. If you did this shit two months ago, you were already working on your album less than two months ago. I mean, the album was done.
Speaker 6:
[84:06] You get what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:
[84:07] So if you were already knowing that you were going to do these things, and now, it's like when a comedian gets in trouble, now they got to go back on the road, they got to address the fuck ups that they had. So now, I'm going to go address these fuck ups so I can hit y'all with this new shit, because I know people are not going to gravitate to it unless I apologize to the masses. It looks disingenuous.
Speaker 6:
[84:26] Can I say something to you? Sure. I deal with family members that suffer from mental health issues and do things that's erratic, but I never guessed that.
Speaker 9:
[84:33] And...
Speaker 6:
[84:36] Cool, you can keep that joke. I really deal with it, and...
Speaker 5:
[84:40] That was inappropriate. Yeah, it's wildly inappropriate.
Speaker 6:
[84:43] I don't care about that. It was up. No, no, no. I deal with people, and... I guess my kids get mad at me all the time, because once I see them trying to get the help, I end up forgiving them, right? And I know how far they go when they're going through that stage of whatever they're going through. And there's some shit that you do, some things that are being said, some things that you never imagined stories of being made up. There's something in their mind that I can't understand, and only a professional can. So, I'm more forgiving to not to, I understand what Kanye is saying, and I'm with all that. I'm not, but if somebody's on their way to get the help, Marc, and they're seeking, how do we know he is?
Speaker 1:
[85:24] You took the words out of my mouth.
Speaker 3:
[85:25] How do we know that?
Speaker 4:
[85:26] I think forgiveness is a journey. I don't think forgiveness is always instant. I think like, let's walk through this forgiveness together.
Speaker 1:
[85:32] Right.
Speaker 6:
[85:33] But a lot of people make fun of people that's acknowledging that they're going through some mental health issues. We don't take it serious. That's the problem today in America. We don't take it serious in our hood. We don't take it serious in our community. Even in the black community, we frown upon. It's not until I came up here and he started to, Joe Budden started to say, yo, I went through this. I'm going through this and I seeked help. Even me, I was ignorant before I came up here. Before I came up here, I'm like, man, you a bitch. Now when he said it and he was proud of it and said, yo, I needed to take the steps to get better for my family. That was dope to me. Then I realized the people around me, a lot of people are afraid to talk about their mental health conditions or what they go through. It's a macho thing that come with it.
Speaker 1:
[86:11] My question, Marc, what does accountability look like?
Speaker 5:
[86:13] I think when you talk about accountability, in this instance, not there. I think part of the restorative process is asking who was harmed and how do we make them whole. If he's just on the anti-Semitic point, I think it's not for me to decide. I think those conversations need to happen with the Jewish community about how to restore that, in the same way that those conversations have to happen with the black community about what he said. What I have found, though, is that while he has been appropriately contrite in public with these anti-Semitic comments, he ain't did shit for black folk, but just keeps selling us stuff. So I don't know exactly what accountability looks like, but I know, because we'd have to think it through, but I don't think he's made any steps toward it with us.
Speaker 3:
[87:00] At all.
Speaker 5:
[87:00] That's my concern.
Speaker 3:
[87:01] And it's a reason for that. The reason for that is because when you start being disrespectful to certain demos in certain communities, they're going to cut you off by the kneecaps if they can, and they're going to pull every single ad dollar, they're going to pull every single piece of support. If I got a monkey in that race over there, my monkey not running. If I got something over here, I'm not doing it. With us, we don't do that. With nobody, with Gucci, with any entertainer, with anybody that wrongs us or crosses us, we'll diss them for three months, and then we go back to buying their shit. When you start being disrespectful to the Jewish community, when you start being disrespectful to the LGBT plus Q community, they're going to cut you off.
Speaker 5:
[87:42] I don't think he's going to say that shit.
Speaker 2:
[87:43] He ain't going to say that shit. He ain't going to fuck with me.
Speaker 6:
[87:45] LGBTQ?
Speaker 2:
[87:46] He'll fuck all of us up.
Speaker 3:
[87:47] Oh, pardon me. But you know what I'm talking about. And now you got to earn their forgiveness. With us, he don't have to earn shit because you home, or you feel like you're at home. Well, it's a two part, because a lot of people was look at me as he's one of us. So we embrace our own a little bit more anyway. Like we want him to be okay. He don't embrace. I'm with you. I'm just telling you how people look at him. Like Flip don't want to come in here and condemn a black man. You know what I'm saying? So it's like a lot of black people look at us. Kanye is one of ours. We know we need help. We don't, they already shitting on them. We don't want to shit on them.
Speaker 1:
[88:20] Well, my thing is, I don't believe that, I agree with everything y'all said, especially at this point. I don't believe that, I believe that Kanye's fan base has changed.
Speaker 2:
[88:30] That's a fact.
Speaker 1:
[88:32] I don't think that he considers himself one of us. Home. Home. I don't think that he has the love and the reverence and the yada yada yada. I don't believe that at all. That's why I didn't watch the concerts. The Bully album is not good enough for me to excuse things. What comes to mind specifically is the clan outfit when he went to do that interview and sold it. That was nuts. But I'm with Flip. I believe him to be a mental health case.
Speaker 3:
[89:04] I believe that.
Speaker 1:
[89:05] One. Two, because of that, some of them songs he was singing don't even sound right to me no more. Like Lauryn Hill was great, but you singing All Falls Down don't hit for me. It's a caricature. It's not the guy that made it. It's almost the antithesis of the guy that made it. But I'm with Flip. I want him to be better. I keep him in my prayers. I have love for him. He's an important part of music and just all of the bells and whistles. So past that, I'm not invested.
Speaker 4:
[89:41] I also don't think this is the biggest of deals. I mean, it is obviously a big financial thing, but he just sold out two shows in LA. He's not going to do the show in UK. I feel bad for his fans in UK, but I'm pretty sure he's going to do another show probably soon.
Speaker 3:
[89:57] He's been doing these shows all around the world. Mexico, Japan, like he's been on tour. You got to take a stand, my. To your point, I'm not mad at them for taking a stand. Yo bro, you have to be held accountable for certain shit that you say and certain shit that you do. Cool. I think everybody up here can agree that he has some mental health issues, but those mental health issues, when you wouldn't put that Klan shit on, you did that. That was deliberate. That was conscious. I don't know, because I'm not a mental health expert, and I want to be disrespectful to nobody that's going through these issues. My nigga, you got dressed. You ordered that. You got dressed. You put that on, and then you did whatever you did with that. That wasn't by mistake. The white lives matter. It wasn't by mistake. That you sold it. And then you stood on that shit publicly when you start speaking. My, you got to eat that. And there's another part. People don't have to forgive your apologies. Well, that's the part that people think because I go on my apology tour, I quote unquote made it right. Sometimes the people you hurt don't care. And it's forever going to be up.
Speaker 5:
[91:03] Or they need time.
Speaker 7:
[91:04] Or never. Or they don't care.
Speaker 3:
[91:07] Like, bro, you could make all the right decisions going forward. And there are people out there that you can't come back from what you said. I know first hand, there's people out there that I've heard with certain things that I've said, no matter what, it don't matter no more. You're forever over there and that's just what it is. You gotta eat that if that's what you did.
Speaker 5:
[91:25] And he said that in his letter.
Speaker 3:
[91:26] That's part of accountability.
Speaker 6:
[91:27] But to both of y'all saying this.
Speaker 1:
[91:28] Y'all say that, but y'all watch the show and listen to the album.
Speaker 6:
[91:31] But to both of y'all saying that, right.
Speaker 5:
[91:33] I watch the show.
Speaker 6:
[91:33] This is my last one.
Speaker 3:
[91:34] And I listen to the album for music.
Speaker 5:
[91:36] That's my limit. That's my line. And if I weren't on the show, Joe Budden Podcast, I wouldn't have listened to it. Okay, got it.
Speaker 6:
[91:42] Ish and Freeze.
Speaker 1:
[91:44] Damn, I'm making you listen to that?
Speaker 5:
[91:46] Yeah, you make us do a lot of things that are against my values, man.
Speaker 6:
[91:48] Saying that, like, when you're going through something, man, like saying that, like you made a decision, you're conscious, a lot of times, no, man, like they'd be in another world.
Speaker 5:
[91:57] That's true.
Speaker 6:
[91:57] And I think that you should do the, just, you're a smart guy, just do the research. It's not as cutting dry as you say it is. You might be right.
Speaker 5:
[92:05] Let me get you to come to that point. Do you think him being part of MAGA is his mental health, or do you think that's his real political belief?
Speaker 6:
[92:12] I think that was his real political belief.
Speaker 5:
[92:13] Can I ask you a question? For me, that might be enough to not fuck with him. If you're a man supporting Trump.
Speaker 6:
[92:18] Yeah, but a lot of people support Trump.
Speaker 5:
[92:20] And a lot of those people, I won't go to the concerts.
Speaker 6:
[92:22] No, no, no.
Speaker 5:
[92:24] I ain't going to see Chili either.
Speaker 3:
[92:26] To the victim of the hate speech, or the victim of these actions, do you think they care what your mental health was in the moment when you did these things?
Speaker 6:
[92:35] No.
Speaker 3:
[92:35] Like, that's what I'm talking about. Some people, all right, cool, you was having an episode, you was having a moment, you still did that, and you're going to have to live with the results of that. Yeah, that's just how it goes. Also, he's released a statement about the wireless cancellation, and it says, to those I've heard, I've been following the conversation around wireless, and I want to address it directly. My only goal is to come to London and present a show of change, bringing unity, peace and love through my music. I know words aren't enough. I'll have to show change through my actions. If you're open, I'm here. With love, yay, formerly known as Kanye West. And he sent that to whom? Is he posted?
Speaker 5:
[93:10] Posted it.
Speaker 2:
[93:11] Yeah, posted it. Marc, how you feel about that?
Speaker 5:
[93:14] I mean, I appreciate his maturity in not going apeshit about it, but that's what you're supposed to say, but at some point he has accepted, it might not have, that message of love might not happen now. This ain't the US in the 80s with black people where you just go to Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson and say, I'm sorry for calling you a nigger and keep going. No, no, you're gonna need long-term accountability. I hope he does have those conversations with the right people. I hope one day we do get to a place of healing, but it's hard for his healing to be connected to making money hand over fist.
Speaker 1:
[93:46] What would you say if he wanted to talk to you privately about some of these transgressions?
Speaker 5:
[93:49] I would love to. I've offered that before. Then I stopped offering it after it went off the rails. I had a Chris Cuomo interview.
Speaker 4:
[93:56] I think it's particularly difficult with the Nazi stuff doing a show in Europe. They were bombed by Nazis and first-hand dealt with the shit. Displaced.
Speaker 3:
[94:07] Family members tortured, family members, refugee, all of that stuff. Like, bro, you got to think about what you say and.
Speaker 2:
[94:15] He might be bad at geography like me.
Speaker 7:
[94:18] He probably don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3:
[94:22] I just think that we get entitled as human beings.
Speaker 1:
[94:29] I saw some of the backlash that I and maybe some other people received for my prediction of what would happen if Kanye West and Jay-Z did a versus. And I'd like to expound, I'd like to expound because I was down south with some time to think. I picked Jay-Z to win if they were ever to do a versus. Some people called me crazy. This is my in-depth review of how I think it would go. They both have all of the records for days, all of them. And they both have what I think is very important in versus is A-side, B-sides. So I think whoever goes second would win, right?
Speaker 3:
[95:17] The last ten.
Speaker 1:
[95:18] Whoever goes...
Speaker 3:
[95:19] But you know that the format was...
Speaker 1:
[95:20] Let me just go. Let me just go. They switch up. Anybody that goes second would win. So my advantage goes to the person that could steal some of the I'm going first rounds, right? With that said, I still pick Jay-Z to win if it goes to 20. I would pick Jay-Z to win if it went to 30. Anything past 30, I think the musicality of Kanye West would outlast the lyricism from Hove.
Speaker 8:
[95:56] That's what I think.
Speaker 1:
[95:57] So I wanted to just briefly throw a couple of rounds out at y'all. Please just answer the rounds. I don't want to hear your opinion on the rounds. Just give me what would win so I could get a gauge from y'all.
Speaker 10:
[96:08] Okay.
Speaker 1:
[96:12] If champion Kanye West were to go against... Hands up. 12 a.m. on the way to the club.
Speaker 7:
[96:19] Do it again. Do it again. Do it again.
Speaker 1:
[96:21] If champion were to go against Do It Again, what wins?
Speaker 4:
[96:26] Do it again.
Speaker 1:
[96:27] I pick Do It Again also.
Speaker 8:
[96:29] Which champion?
Speaker 7:
[96:36] This is the shit.
Speaker 3:
[96:38] I'm more champion.
Speaker 5:
[96:39] I think champion wins that round. I was like, I was surprised you said this so fast.
Speaker 1:
[96:45] I pick Do It Again against champion.
Speaker 5:
[96:46] I take champion over, dude.
Speaker 3:
[96:47] I think majority of the country.
Speaker 1:
[96:50] I don't care. I just want your opinion.
Speaker 3:
[96:51] Oh, well, I'm taking champion.
Speaker 5:
[96:53] Because that's the vibe, too. It just depends on...
Speaker 1:
[96:55] So champion-ish.
Speaker 3:
[96:56] Do it again.
Speaker 1:
[96:57] Marc champion.
Speaker 6:
[96:58] Do it again.
Speaker 1:
[97:00] I go do it again, too.
Speaker 7:
[97:00] Okay.
Speaker 4:
[97:02] I might go champion now, actually.
Speaker 7:
[97:03] Okay.
Speaker 3:
[97:04] So 3-3.
Speaker 4:
[97:04] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[97:05] Monster Kanye West versus Reservoir Dogs Jay-Z.
Speaker 4:
[97:11] Monster.
Speaker 3:
[97:12] Monster versus.
Speaker 2:
[97:13] See, I pick Reservoir Dogs.
Speaker 3:
[97:15] But can he play Monster?
Speaker 4:
[97:16] He holds on it.
Speaker 3:
[97:17] Jay-Z on it. So?
Speaker 2:
[97:19] It's his record.
Speaker 5:
[97:21] Well, that is a little bit of a... I get your point, but that's...
Speaker 1:
[97:25] What wins?
Speaker 5:
[97:25] I'm thinking. Monster.
Speaker 3:
[97:28] Monster wins, bruh.
Speaker 1:
[97:30] I'm not arguing with you. I'm just giving my take and moving on.
Speaker 4:
[97:33] Sure.
Speaker 1:
[97:33] I'm not arguing.
Speaker 6:
[97:34] I wish we could...
Speaker 1:
[97:35] Song Cry versus Devil in a New Dress.
Speaker 9:
[97:38] Song Cry.
Speaker 4:
[97:39] Song Cry.
Speaker 3:
[97:40] I gotta go Song Cry.
Speaker 1:
[97:41] I got Devil in a New Dress.
Speaker 3:
[97:42] What's Devil in a New Dress?
Speaker 6:
[97:43] You know how I be knowing the name of the song?
Speaker 5:
[97:44] The show of Rick Ross.
Speaker 4:
[97:45] The show of Rick Ross.
Speaker 5:
[97:46] I ordered the jerk. She said, You are what you eat.
Speaker 1:
[97:49] I got you. I got him. I got him. I got a devil in a new dress. I love it though.
Speaker 5:
[97:56] You might take Devil In The Dress.
Speaker 1:
[98:15] And I'll tell you one thing. I was on the fence at first, but if in some way, if in some way we get to the end...
Speaker 3:
[99:12] I'm gonna go song cry.
Speaker 1:
[99:14] And lastly, all falls down, dead presidents.
Speaker 10:
[99:20] Oof.
Speaker 5:
[99:22] I'm taking dead presidents.
Speaker 1:
[99:23] And for me, I'm taking dead presidents.
Speaker 5:
[99:24] I'm taking dead presidents. And it's mainly because I can't have Kanye win every round. Like at some point.
Speaker 3:
[99:28] All falls down, man.
Speaker 5:
[99:31] I decided over the weekend that Kanye wins, he beats Jay Z.
Speaker 1:
[99:34] Kanye wins if it goes to 50. Or 40.
Speaker 5:
[99:36] I think he wins if it goes to 20 at this point. No.
Speaker 1:
[99:39] Yeah, I don't see it.
Speaker 5:
[99:40] Because all the songs you just played would be in the 20.
Speaker 1:
[99:43] Well, I picked Jay Z for the majority of those matches.
Speaker 5:
[99:47] I picked Kanye for him. That's why I split.
Speaker 1:
[99:49] And my last question to y'all, what does Kanye play for where I'm from?
Speaker 8:
[99:54] Oof.
Speaker 3:
[99:56] I think it depends on the crowd.
Speaker 1:
[99:57] Because it's a B side. I didn't want it.
Speaker 4:
[99:58] Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[99:59] He got a couple of them, but.
Speaker 4:
[100:03] He don't have nothing with that grit.
Speaker 2:
[100:05] Yeah. Nothing.
Speaker 3:
[100:06] I don't have a thing.
Speaker 10:
[100:08] Grit ain't what you do, but.
Speaker 1:
[100:10] What if I heard him say?
Speaker 4:
[100:12] Oh, that's a tough one.
Speaker 5:
[100:13] That's a tough one.
Speaker 4:
[100:14] That's a tough one.
Speaker 5:
[100:14] I was in that this weekend.
Speaker 4:
[100:15] Yeah.
Speaker 1:
[100:16] Heard him say versus where I'm from, my final one.
Speaker 4:
[100:18] Oh, I don't like that matchup.
Speaker 5:
[100:19] It's a horrible matchup.
Speaker 3:
[100:20] It's a horrible matchup.
Speaker 2:
[100:21] Forget it. Forget it.
Speaker 1:
[100:23] I just think those records, the where I'm from is just going to be...
Speaker 3:
[100:27] I just think it depends on the crowd.
Speaker 1:
[100:28] The can I live? Those are going to be tough. But yeah, I got Kanye if it goes to 40. Anything under 40, I got.
Speaker 5:
[100:34] I think I got Yeh Nguyen beating.
Speaker 3:
[100:36] I got everybody that's from the tri-state area saying New York, I've been saying Kanye will lose. And I got the rest of the country when they hit these records saying Kanye wins.
Speaker 5:
[100:44] Yeah. I've been converted. I was converted this weekend when I thought about him.
Speaker 3:
[100:48] And I think it's a problem. No, he's a problem.
Speaker 8:
[100:51] Yes, he's different.
Speaker 4:
[100:53] He's got too many fucking records.
Speaker 2:
[100:54] Yeah.
Speaker 7:
[100:56] All right.
Speaker 1:
[100:57] Y'all know what time it is, man.
Speaker 2:
[100:58] Come on. Come on.
Speaker 1:
[100:59] Let's do it. You get home, you just listen to the lyrics.
Speaker 10:
[101:02] The lyrics is what?
Speaker 7:
[101:03] If you love my shit, shut up and listen to the words.
Speaker 1:
[101:06] True. I'm with him. Marc, stop it, Marc, stop it, stop it, Marc.
Speaker 5:
[101:19] Without a single stop, come on, man.
Speaker 1:
[101:20] Look at Stupor, stop it.
Speaker 5:
[101:21] Master in the Pain! That's right.
Speaker 7:
[101:24] Listen to the bars.
Speaker 10:
[102:03] That's my favorite part.
Speaker 6:
[102:04] I'm getting right back to it.
Speaker 7:
[102:05] No, no, no. No, no, no. Listen, audience, Parks and Marc are going to try their best to fucking defend this hootenanny.
Speaker 4:
[102:16] Defending lyricism. You're fucking right.
Speaker 1:
[102:18] Bars.
Speaker 4:
[102:19] That be a said.
Speaker 7:
[102:20] Listen to the lyrics.
Speaker 2:
[102:22] I'm playing this again.
Speaker 7:
[102:23] Fuck y'all.
Speaker 1:
[102:25] Let's rock.
Speaker 2:
[102:26] Let's rock.
Speaker 1:
[102:27] Get Marc some time to gather himself.
Speaker 9:
[102:31] When you be next. Now, cut the beat, cut the beat.
Speaker 2:
[103:40] Yo, this nigga needs help, yo. Shut up, nigga. Shut your ass up.
Speaker 4:
[103:52] At least he put the beat on this time.
Speaker 1:
[103:54] Man, we've done by then.
Speaker 2:
[103:56] We've finished with this guy, buddy.
Speaker 1:
[103:57] We outta here, nigga.
Speaker 5:
[103:58] Man, peace to the God. J electronic, I stand with you. Yo, boy. I stand with him. Look, first of all, you gotta understand the context, because a lot of y'all ignore the context.
Speaker 2:
[104:08] Let me hear it.
Speaker 4:
[104:13] Write it out. Thank you.
Speaker 9:
[104:14] No, he was doing it.
Speaker 5:
[104:16] Man, shut the fuck up and listen to my lyrics.
Speaker 9:
[104:23] I'm going to see these boos.
Speaker 5:
[104:28] That's what he was saying.
Speaker 2:
[104:30] Shut up, Marc. What the?
Speaker 5:
[104:32] Y'all will do it in my face. Y'all do it from when I'm on stage.
Speaker 3:
[104:40] They pussy.
Speaker 9:
[104:44] Look, they rapping. He only had to rap.
Speaker 5:
[104:46] He said my name.
Speaker 4:
[104:47] Yo, that's me and Marc in the crowd right there.
Speaker 3:
[104:49] Let me tell you, I'm never against fans throwing shit. I was with it.
Speaker 5:
[104:54] My fans was out of pocket, man.
Speaker 3:
[104:55] No, they wasn't.
Speaker 5:
[104:57] Listen, all jokes aside, this was the context. The lyrical pocket. He was doing all of the songs where he would start with the beat and then go acapella. That was the show he was doing. And I don't see nothing wrong with that. I mean, you could not like it, but I'm not booing somebody off stage because they're doing a performance I don't like. Y'all was fine with the country western version, The Lost Ones, when Lauryn Hill came out there, she flipped some shit up. Why can't he come out there and do acapella verses? That's what he did.
Speaker 4:
[105:24] The only problem with this is that beat is really good.
Speaker 5:
[105:27] Oh, it's amazing beat. It's one of the things people love about it.
Speaker 1:
[105:30] You see, it's not just an amazing beat. It's not just an amazing beat. It's arguably one of the best beats ever made. And if you happen to have it, play it.
Speaker 4:
[105:41] It's my song.
Speaker 1:
[105:42] Hey, we'll rap.
Speaker 3:
[105:43] Just give us the beat.
Speaker 5:
[105:43] The beat is so fired that a lot of people ignored the genius of the song. Marc, do me a favor. Jay Electronica. Marc, I got you.
Speaker 1:
[105:51] Marc, do me a favor. Read the genius of the quote that you put in the group chat. Read the genius of that, or you don't have it.
Speaker 5:
[105:58] I have it for you. No, no.
Speaker 1:
[105:59] Bro, I saw Jay Electronica live last night, and it was the most interesting show I've been to in a while. He only played the first 10 seconds of every song and spit the rest of the verse as acapella. He would stop in the middle of a verse to talk about conspiracy theories.
Speaker 4:
[106:13] This sounds like a great show.
Speaker 5:
[106:14] This is a great show.
Speaker 1:
[106:15] By exhibit C, some people had enough and started booing. Most people were there for currency. Jay crashed out and went into the crowd calling them pussy and saying they wouldn't boo to his face. He was right, my favorite rapper.
Speaker 5:
[106:28] Just to be clear, that wasn't my quote. I know, that wasn't your quote. I didn't say that. That's what I was posting what a fan said.
Speaker 7:
[106:35] Pac Jay Electronica the fuck up, man.
Speaker 1:
[106:38] I wish I was, you lucky my aunt's birthday was this weekend.
Speaker 7:
[106:41] I'd have flew there to boo you.
Speaker 5:
[106:42] No, you were not a, you were cow.
Speaker 7:
[106:44] I would have flew there to, I've been waiting.
Speaker 5:
[106:47] You would have did it in his face.
Speaker 7:
[106:48] I guarantee you that. I've been waiting 16 years to boo him to his face. Rory never brought him to me. Why? Rory kept us separate.
Speaker 5:
[106:55] Was that like a who's a better MC thing?
Speaker 7:
[106:56] Get him the fuck out of here. No, it's you Muslims in hip hop been trying to big up this bullshit for about 20 years. He's amazing. Pac him the up.
Speaker 5:
[107:06] Joe Electronica is a fucking beast.
Speaker 1:
[107:09] Oh my God, I know, I know, I know. I'm retired.
Speaker 7:
[107:11] I don't care.
Speaker 1:
[107:11] A lot of people got me wiped down. I'm top 75. I don't care.
Speaker 5:
[107:15] I'm saying even in your prime.
Speaker 7:
[107:17] He only made two songs.
Speaker 6:
[107:18] What are you talking about?
Speaker 7:
[107:20] And this is my problem with you fucking delusional Jay Elect people. He got six songs. Don't talk to me about him.
Speaker 1:
[107:26] That's not going to get a rise out of me.
Speaker 7:
[107:27] He put out like 30 songs last year. Let's talk about, no, I didn't listen to none of that shit. Oh, you should have. And I'm not.
Speaker 5:
[107:34] I have Rory send it to you.
Speaker 1:
[107:35] I won't. Don't have him send nothing to me. Unless it's the Rory album. I don't want to, other than the Rory album, he can't send me none of this bullshit. Listen, this is an absolute shit show. Now, granted, hate him.
Speaker 5:
[107:47] Granted.
Speaker 1:
[107:48] When I got booed off the stage, I did it a lot sassier.
Speaker 4:
[107:54] He sounded way tougher than you did.
Speaker 1:
[107:55] No, that's a fact. So I'll put this mic down now.
Speaker 3:
[108:01] Just one more time, I'm telling you, one more time.
Speaker 1:
[108:04] He did that. You gonna joke, man. They could joke, but you gonna jump in. That's what makes it hurt.
Speaker 3:
[108:08] I was there.
Speaker 1:
[108:09] But that's what makes it hurt. They could joke, but you gonna joke on me? I'm more a friend.
Speaker 6:
[108:14] I'm making this one up.
Speaker 3:
[108:17] I got paid to be here, though.
Speaker 1:
[108:19] You was right about that, honey cake.
Speaker 7:
[108:21] Oh, I know.
Speaker 1:
[108:22] Anyway.
Speaker 10:
[108:25] I know.
Speaker 2:
[108:27] Oh, man.
Speaker 1:
[108:28] No, you wasn't right about that, honey cake.
Speaker 7:
[108:29] All right.
Speaker 1:
[108:30] Oh, my God. Anyway, back to Jay Electronica.
Speaker 5:
[108:33] I get his frustration. If I go out there to...
Speaker 3:
[108:36] Joe gets his frustration, too. Of course, he's a German fool, that's the same frustration that Joe did. I ain't gonna say all that.
Speaker 1:
[108:41] I'm not getting to the frustration part. I'm getting to the stupid part. Every rapper has been frustrated at his show. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm not clowning him for that. I'm clowning him.
Speaker 6:
[108:50] Walking in the crowd.
Speaker 1:
[108:51] But not even that, because the deal with it bad. This is a bad decision. This is like when Crooked used to grab the mic at acapella time. Nobody here came here for acapella. We want to hear the slap. We want to hear the beat. We want to rap along. You have it. It's one of the best beats we ever heard. Yeah, but pull it out of your back pocket and do it.
Speaker 3:
[109:17] I'm not like when Crooked would do that. It's in the middle of the show as I'm going to do this real quick and we get back to this. He's doing this for every song, bro.
Speaker 1:
[109:26] That's true.
Speaker 3:
[109:27] That's totally different.
Speaker 5:
[109:29] That's the show.
Speaker 7:
[109:30] I didn't come to that show. What do you mean?
Speaker 6:
[109:34] The show would be like that more?
Speaker 3:
[109:35] If that's his fan base, number one.
Speaker 7:
[109:38] That wasn't his fan base.
Speaker 3:
[109:39] That's the problem. That nigger raps exceptionally well.
Speaker 4:
[109:43] Yes.
Speaker 3:
[109:43] Lyrically exceptionally well and a lot of people that are real lyrical, miracle niggers, i.e. Crooked, i.e. Jay-Z, sometimes they will cut the song off so you can hear the words that I'm saying.
Speaker 4:
[109:54] That beat's really fucking with the vibe today.
Speaker 3:
[109:57] They don't do it to every single song. The fans will get tired.
Speaker 6:
[110:01] You didn't boo in the beginning.
Speaker 7:
[110:02] He don't even have the songs to do that, yo.
Speaker 6:
[110:05] You get what I'm saying?
Speaker 5:
[110:06] I think every song he got.
Speaker 7:
[110:07] He don't have the songs to say, hey, yo, cut this off.
Speaker 5:
[110:10] I need to get with them for a minute lyrically. I think people have been so captivated by that beat, it was time for them to hear the actual bars. Oh, Marc.
Speaker 3:
[110:17] Bro, this is towards the end of this show. You did this, like you said, every song he let 10 seconds of the beat play and now you're playing a cappella. Every record.
Speaker 4:
[110:23] All the beats in this beat, though.
Speaker 3:
[110:25] But I'm saying by the time we got here, the fans is tired of this shit. They say, and we got your fans.
Speaker 1:
[110:31] Get out.
Speaker 3:
[110:31] Let Currency come on.
Speaker 1:
[110:32] None of the Muslim hip hop niggas said a word when he was dating that white girl. That's my other problem with these.
Speaker 3:
[110:39] What that got to do with Islam?
Speaker 5:
[110:41] Muslim does not see race or racism.
Speaker 6:
[110:44] Please just leave them alone, bro. Just let it go.
Speaker 3:
[110:48] Flip's trying to save you.
Speaker 6:
[110:49] Save him, Flip.
Speaker 5:
[110:50] You want to hear the truth?
Speaker 3:
[110:51] You know it's man, white Muslims, right? Come on, stop tickling me, It's man, white Muslims.
Speaker 5:
[110:55] That's what Malcolm X said in his letter from Jeddah.
Speaker 1:
[110:58] I think it was more about the white woman he was dating.
Speaker 5:
[111:01] Except for the Rothschild.
Speaker 4:
[111:03] Allegedly.
Speaker 5:
[111:04] Allegedly. And I don't know that to be true.
Speaker 7:
[111:06] So Jay Electronica-
Speaker 9:
[111:06] Wait, what?
Speaker 5:
[111:08] I never met him.
Speaker 7:
[111:08] Wait, am I in the Matrix?
Speaker 4:
[111:10] No.
Speaker 3:
[111:10] This Mark McCabe, boy.
Speaker 5:
[111:12] Never met him.
Speaker 3:
[111:13] I don't know that to be true.
Speaker 4:
[111:14] I'm using that for a movie. I know.
Speaker 5:
[111:20] He got the charger. It's got the charger.
Speaker 3:
[111:21] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6:
[111:22] My shit dead too, yeah.
Speaker 5:
[111:23] That's what he did.
Speaker 1:
[111:25] This shit was funny, yo. Oh shit. Sometimes the news gives you good shit before you come to work. I looked at my phone.
Speaker 5:
[111:32] Me too. I was like, it's going to be a long day at work.
Speaker 1:
[111:34] It was like, say word.
Speaker 4:
[111:35] See, I didn't even think about it. I saw Elliot posted it. I just gave it a little like and I was like, see that's dope, man. Lyricism in hip hop.
Speaker 3:
[111:41] Yeah. Did you all see when he went in the crowd?
Speaker 1:
[111:43] You're right.
Speaker 7:
[111:45] Yes.
Speaker 2:
[111:45] There are white Muslims in hip hop.
Speaker 7:
[111:48] Hey, you know what?
Speaker 2:
[111:49] You just learned.
Speaker 7:
[111:51] Peace. That's it.
Speaker 9:
[111:54] We hold it down.
Speaker 5:
[111:56] Have you never done Pump It Up a Capella?
Speaker 1:
[111:58] No.
Speaker 8:
[112:00] That's exactly my point.
Speaker 1:
[112:01] That's exactly-
Speaker 4:
[112:02] It's not a perfect example. They're not in the same-
Speaker 8:
[112:05] Pump It Up is not a perfect example.
Speaker 1:
[112:06] I love that example because-
Speaker 4:
[112:09] It is a good one.
Speaker 1:
[112:09] I like it because-
Speaker 3:
[112:10] That's his hit.
Speaker 1:
[112:11] It's a-
Speaker 7:
[112:11] Technically.
Speaker 1:
[112:12] But the hit.
Speaker 3:
[112:13] Jay Elect.
Speaker 1:
[112:15] I would be handicapping myself. I would be handicapping myself.
Speaker 7:
[112:19] That is one of the better beats ever.
Speaker 1:
[112:22] Pump It Up.
Speaker 5:
[112:22] I happen to think that I have one of those.
Speaker 1:
[112:25] Imagine me.
Speaker 7:
[112:28] Cut it. Cut that. But you ain't got the voice for it. He don't need the voice.
Speaker 9:
[112:38] You're not doing it politically enough.
Speaker 6:
[112:41] You ain't got the voice for lyricism.
Speaker 8:
[112:44] You know what I mean?
Speaker 9:
[112:50] You gotta put some swag into it.
Speaker 8:
[112:51] You can't just do it.
Speaker 5:
[112:53] They've been carrying him.
Speaker 6:
[112:54] That's what I'm saying. Yeah, more. That's funny.
Speaker 7:
[112:56] We keep shooting that.
Speaker 6:
[112:57] The beat is carrying you. He is shooting. He is shooting.
Speaker 7:
[113:00] He's ruining the friendship.
Speaker 3:
[113:02] No, one of your other more lyrical songs, if you did that and cut the beat off and slowed the words down.
Speaker 5:
[113:09] Hit some shit in there that you can do.
Speaker 2:
[113:11] Hit some shit in there, I'm sure it's gonna go viral.
Speaker 7:
[113:15] The pyramids.
Speaker 1:
[113:17] No, that wasn't me. No, that wasn't me at all.
Speaker 4:
[113:20] That was Jay Electronica.
Speaker 2:
[113:21] The Pyramids, Bob Day.
Speaker 4:
[113:23] I want you to stop Exhibit C so I can learn about The Pyramids today. Yeah, actually.
Speaker 1:
[113:27] This is some dope shit and Jay Electronica fans make me go hard at Jay Electronica. Honestly, I understand these fucking-
Speaker 3:
[113:33] No, I'm a fan.
Speaker 5:
[113:34] I'm a huge fan. He's a huge fan.
Speaker 4:
[113:37] He interrupted his albums for Conspiracy Theory.
Speaker 5:
[113:40] This is Jay Electronica.
Speaker 1:
[113:41] Hey, Jay Electronica, hey, hear me, hear me good.
Speaker 4:
[113:43] Remember when he used to wear a cape and carry a staff on stage?
Speaker 5:
[113:46] Yes.
Speaker 4:
[113:47] Yeah, this is him.
Speaker 5:
[113:48] He's that dude.
Speaker 4:
[113:49] He's kind of chilled out.
Speaker 5:
[113:50] We need to admit him to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4:
[113:53] We need to admit that he's one of the greatest ever.
Speaker 1:
[113:58] Y'all own one right here, boy.
Speaker 7:
[114:00] These two here, they've been talking.
Speaker 5:
[114:01] They was ready. They was ready for this.
Speaker 7:
[114:02] This is from Freestyle, right?
Speaker 6:
[114:04] This is from the heart.
Speaker 1:
[114:06] Y'all was ready.
Speaker 5:
[114:08] I love Jay Electronica. Shout out to my brother.
Speaker 7:
[114:09] Hey, Jay Electronica.
Speaker 1:
[114:10] Just be lucky it was my own birthday, boy. I would have been in that crowd when you walked by talking about, who going to boo in my face?
Speaker 9:
[114:17] Me.
Speaker 7:
[114:22] Tomatoes and all that shit.
Speaker 4:
[114:24] Me and Marc would have been there to make sure shit went smooth.
Speaker 3:
[114:26] Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[114:27] Jay Electronica. Where is Currency?
Speaker 3:
[114:30] That's what they were saying.
Speaker 7:
[114:31] Bring out Currency.
Speaker 4:
[114:32] Shout out to Currency.
Speaker 1:
[114:34] Shout out to Currency.
Speaker 10:
[114:35] Shout out to Currency.
Speaker 1:
[114:36] You know how bad you got to be for the whole crowd together.
Speaker 2:
[114:39] All right. Go ahead, finish that thought.
Speaker 4:
[114:42] Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1:
[114:43] No, because Currency is dope. It is.
Speaker 3:
[114:45] Currency is dope.
Speaker 1:
[114:46] I can't finish the thought.
Speaker 4:
[114:48] I wonder where they was at. All them New Orleans rappers and I was in New Orleans.
Speaker 1:
[114:50] Currency was on the toilet.
Speaker 3:
[114:52] He wiped his ass so fast to get out there.
Speaker 1:
[114:55] He didn't even get a minute to himself fucking Jay Elect out there.
Speaker 4:
[114:58] Currency is a stoner. He was sitting there getting ripped backstage laughing his ass off.
Speaker 1:
[115:02] That's a fact.
Speaker 5:
[115:03] And Jay Elect is going to be on tour for the next couple of months. He's going to be in a lot of major cities.
Speaker 1:
[115:07] Is Jay-Z coming?
Speaker 5:
[115:09] No, I don't think so. I think it's enough just to see a good Jay Elect show, man. He always was on a great show. Great crowd work, great beats.
Speaker 2:
[115:16] Come to Jersey.
Speaker 4:
[115:18] I'm sure he will.
Speaker 5:
[115:19] He will.
Speaker 3:
[115:19] I think he'll go.
Speaker 2:
[115:20] I'm going.
Speaker 5:
[115:22] I'll get a suite. Yeah, I'll get the suite.
Speaker 1:
[115:25] Come to New York. I'll be in Melrose for that one.
Speaker 5:
[115:29] That's disrespectful.
Speaker 2:
[115:31] As hell, you know.
Speaker 5:
[115:34] Peace to the God. He's going to hear this and he's going to clap back. Parks can't save you.
Speaker 7:
[115:41] Come to the Apollo.
Speaker 1:
[115:42] I've been dying a sandman across that shit.
Speaker 3:
[115:46] Apollo hold 3,500.
Speaker 2:
[115:47] No, it don't.
Speaker 7:
[115:49] No, it don't.
Speaker 2:
[115:49] Oh, shit.
Speaker 7:
[115:50] No, it does not.
Speaker 1:
[115:51] Then they just reno? I'm not talking about the renovated one. Marc, you been there to do a speech at the renovated one?
Speaker 5:
[115:57] I did an event for, yeah, last time.
Speaker 1:
[115:59] Oh, yeah, you went with Fat Joe.
Speaker 5:
[116:01] That was somewhere else, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7:
[116:03] That wasn't at the Apollo?
Speaker 5:
[116:04] That was at the Autobahn, the old Autobahn Ballroom, the Shabazz Center.
Speaker 4:
[116:08] Which he's a member of the board.
Speaker 3:
[116:10] I'm a board member, he's on the board.
Speaker 5:
[116:14] That's when Fat Joe was sitting in the second row, when I came in. He was like, yo, I'm in the Budden seats.
Speaker 2:
[116:23] That was funny as shit. That is disrespectful.
Speaker 5:
[116:27] I held it down for you though.
Speaker 1:
[116:28] Fat Joe was disrespectful.
Speaker 5:
[116:28] I held it down for you.
Speaker 1:
[116:29] I saw Fat Joe, are we done clowning? Well, y'all not clowning. Are we done with Jay Elect?
Speaker 4:
[116:33] We're done honoring the God.
Speaker 2:
[116:34] Oh my God. Peace, peace, peace.
Speaker 3:
[116:36] Get him out of here.
Speaker 4:
[116:37] Oh my God.
Speaker 3:
[116:38] Get him out of here.
Speaker 4:
[116:39] Can't wait for the New York Show, Jay.
Speaker 5:
[116:40] I'm going.
Speaker 4:
[116:42] We're about to be there.
Speaker 5:
[116:42] Facts.
Speaker 3:
[116:43] And Ish?
Speaker 4:
[116:44] And Ish for sure. And Rory.
Speaker 1:
[116:49] Ish, look, RML would start doing that Jay election in front of Ish.
Speaker 2:
[116:52] Ish was like, like what?
Speaker 1:
[116:57] What you saying?
Speaker 6:
[116:57] That is an encyclopedia, bro.
Speaker 2:
[116:58] He said, wait. Yo, he is.
Speaker 6:
[117:00] That is an encyclopedia.
Speaker 2:
[117:01] He's a genius, isn't he? He said, what? I don't do it, so.
Speaker 6:
[117:04] I didn't even do it.
Speaker 2:
[117:06] We don't know that shit. That's not true, bro. Hey, I felt you. That's the only time I have agreed with you.
Speaker 1:
[117:14] We don't just forget a random J. Get the fuck out of here. Yo, Fat Joe and Jadakiss and them would have an interesting conversation I want to ask, which made me want to come ask y'all a question. They were talking about styles and all of them. Actually, in The Lock, The Lock's The Fat Joe Show. And they said, how old is too old to start a rap career? And they were having a passion to talk about it.
Speaker 4:
[117:38] I think it's a totally different conversation than it was in the past. We say, he was able to come out, probably, they're like my age. I mean, they've been out for a while now, but they were older.
Speaker 5:
[117:47] Yeah, I mean, Jay, we just talked about Jay Elect. He started relatively late. And if you think about, I mean, Hove, we were talking about Rock M.
Speaker 1:
[117:53] How old is Jay Elect?
Speaker 4:
[117:55] I don't know.
Speaker 5:
[117:56] I think he's old. He's my age. Basically my age.
Speaker 4:
[117:59] Is he really?
Speaker 5:
[117:59] Yeah, he got to be in the 40s. Yeah, but look at Jay Z. I mean, Jay Z and Rock M, we think of them as different rap generations. They're only 18 months apart in age. Jay Z and Rock M.
Speaker 9:
[118:06] Jay Elect? Yeah.
Speaker 5:
[118:07] Hove?
Speaker 3:
[118:08] 49.
Speaker 5:
[118:08] Yeah, he's in 49. But Jay Z and Rock M, because Jay Z started so much later in his career, him and Rock M are only a year and a half apart. Like this is what I'm saying, like some great rappers have started late.
Speaker 4:
[118:17] Yeah, I mean, I know Chain started earlier, but he didn't really get like lit until he was later.
Speaker 1:
[118:23] Today, because y'all are going back to a different time, but today, what do you think the oldest a person could be to start their rap career?
Speaker 4:
[118:31] What kind of rapper do you want to be?
Speaker 5:
[118:32] Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 4:
[118:33] Because I think that matters. That matters. If you're doing just hip hop-y hip hop shit, I think we'll embrace you at any age.
Speaker 6:
[118:40] Any age.
Speaker 4:
[118:40] But if you want to be a pop rapper, you probably can't be, you probably can't be 30, if you're trying to be like a billboard top 10 type of rapper. In my opinion.
Speaker 3:
[118:50] 30 might be a little young. If you want to make like pop rap, because Chains was over 30, right?
Speaker 4:
[118:55] Yes. He was. He was.
Speaker 3:
[118:57] You know what I'm saying? And Chains was on the charts.
Speaker 4:
[118:59] Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:
[119:01] Was he over 30 in the Play Your Circle?
Speaker 4:
[119:03] No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:
[119:04] After his solo career, he was certainly over 30.
Speaker 3:
[119:07] That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:
[119:08] Got it, got it, got it.
Speaker 4:
[119:09] Shots of Chains.
Speaker 7:
[119:10] All right, so I think that's a good answer, actually.
Speaker 4:
[119:12] Yeah, I think it depends on what you want to be.
Speaker 1:
[119:13] What type of music you want to make.
Speaker 4:
[119:14] Yeah, if you're making shit for the kids, it's going to look weird if you're great, great out.
Speaker 3:
[119:19] Have some TikTok-y shit, it's going to look funny.
Speaker 1:
[119:21] My favorite shit is when on the algorithms, when it's two old white dudes that be rapping, when they pop up and they just start rapping some senior shit.
Speaker 4:
[119:27] The Irish dudes?
Speaker 7:
[119:28] Yeah, they be killing that shit.
Speaker 1:
[119:29] From London. On some old dude shit.
Speaker 2:
[119:31] Yeah, my algorithm ain't get that.
Speaker 4:
[119:35] Just titties.
Speaker 3:
[119:35] Our shit be similar.
Speaker 1:
[119:36] Yes, it did.
Speaker 4:
[119:36] Just titties.
Speaker 3:
[119:37] No, our shit be similar.
Speaker 1:
[119:39] Our algorithm be the same now to be faithful.
Speaker 4:
[119:42] You get a lot of feet in yourself?
Speaker 1:
[119:43] Faithful black men shit, huh?
Speaker 4:
[119:44] You get a lot of feet in yourself?
Speaker 1:
[119:45] No, that's never been my day. I don't get how you do that shit. That's where we, the friendship veer off. Come on, let's keep this in the spirit of performances.
Speaker 5:
[119:54] I got one for you. I just think I just sent you a clip. Trick Daddy was performing this weekend.
Speaker 1:
[120:00] Okay.
Speaker 2:
[120:01] Shout to Trick Daddy.
Speaker 3:
[120:03] We love you. Trick Daddy was invited to speak at the Alpha Kappa Alpha.
Speaker 2:
[120:09] Speak or perform?
Speaker 4:
[120:09] He was not invited to speak.
Speaker 3:
[120:11] I'm sorry, to perform. Forgive me.
Speaker 4:
[120:12] Well, that's speaking.
Speaker 3:
[120:13] Both are kind of absurd if you think about it.
Speaker 4:
[120:16] I don't know about that.
Speaker 2:
[120:17] Trick Daddy got slapped.
Speaker 3:
[120:18] I don't know about that.
Speaker 5:
[120:19] Name one.
Speaker 1:
[120:20] Take it to the house.
Speaker 3:
[120:21] Name another one.
Speaker 1:
[120:22] Shut up. Name, shut up, shut up.
Speaker 3:
[120:24] Name another one. All right, stop now, stop. No, no, you can support.
Speaker 5:
[120:27] None of them are appropriate for the Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated.
Speaker 4:
[120:32] I'm saying it.
Speaker 6:
[120:34] No, you don't.
Speaker 4:
[120:34] Ant explained it to me.
Speaker 5:
[120:34] That's what I'm trying to tell you. I suppose.
Speaker 3:
[120:36] Because they see themselves as an upper middle class proper organization. And to prove my point, they kicked them off the stage for having inappropriate music.
Speaker 4:
[120:44] But that don't prove the point. Because he also posted footage where most of them was jamming.
Speaker 3:
[120:49] That's why I want you to hit the clip.
Speaker 4:
[120:51] Well, you didn't send me the clip where most of them was jamming. Yeah, what is Marc?
Speaker 5:
[121:21] Oh, I love Trick Daddy. I'm just saying, and it was shocking. And he would never say, yo, cut the beat off, let me get y'all, let me get y'all.
Speaker 6:
[121:35] Dog, that's funny to see.
Speaker 4:
[121:36] JL.
Speaker 6:
[121:37] Look, just, I'm keepin it in the book to envision Trick Daddy at the AKA show. The AK-47 show, yeah, but the AKA show is a little funny.
Speaker 3:
[121:48] He's like, who like gettin that pussy egg?
Speaker 4:
[121:50] Well, now, now, now, now, that's, now, that's where, Now, that's where I think he may have taken it to.
Speaker 5:
[121:57] That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4:
[121:59] But I don't disagree with the booking.
Speaker 3:
[122:02] I disagree with the booking.
Speaker 4:
[122:03] I don't disagree with the booking.
Speaker 3:
[122:04] Anybody you book that's gonna get kicked off the stage shouldn't get booked.
Speaker 4:
[122:07] Nah.
Speaker 5:
[122:08] Or don't kick them off the stage. You gotta pick one.
Speaker 6:
[122:10] Or it could be a mistake where the person booking it don't know the crowd.
Speaker 4:
[122:14] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[122:14] I think you should know the crowd of that AK-47.
Speaker 1:
[122:16] You should.
Speaker 6:
[122:18] And I think the person knew the crowd. Yo, what's this?
Speaker 3:
[122:19] It's like if you have a church social, you put DMX.
Speaker 6:
[122:22] Right person.
Speaker 7:
[122:59] Yo, what state was this in?
Speaker 4:
[123:00] Hold on, let me get to this.
Speaker 3:
[123:01] It was the south, that mad, it might have been... Was it Texas?
Speaker 5:
[123:04] It was the south? I flew out to Orlando. Let me see. She tricked at it.
Speaker 2:
[123:10] Orlando, Florida.
Speaker 5:
[123:25] Everybody leaving. What did he say?
Speaker 4:
[123:33] See, and that wasn't everybody leaving. He showed one portion of a crowd leaving. And what did that mean?
Speaker 7:
[123:39] They at 60?
Speaker 4:
[123:41] Oh, please, please.
Speaker 6:
[123:43] It's not the crowd.
Speaker 5:
[123:44] There's an old guy here up there doing too much. Y'all know they pass their bedtime at about 10.30, then they shut it down.
Speaker 4:
[123:52] I'm gonna trick Daddy's eye with this.
Speaker 2:
[123:53] Me too.
Speaker 5:
[123:54] Me too.
Speaker 4:
[123:57] Thank you.
Speaker 5:
[123:58] Trick Daddy is 60 years old, talking about what?
Speaker 2:
[124:00] We wanna look too far.
Speaker 6:
[124:02] Okay, so, I can't read more into it. Apparently, they met with him prior to the show and asked him to do clean versions of his song. He's responded to all of this news coming out.
Speaker 3:
[124:14] Let me tell you what the woman said that you can respond to.
Speaker 6:
[124:16] Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3:
[124:16] So, she said out, Tiffany Moore Russell, who's the regional director of the South Atlantic, AKA's, said, to my sisters who are attending the conference, Alpha Kappa Alpha Serato Incorporated, South Atlantic region contracted with Trick Daddy, a rapper from Miami, to perform a selected list of songs after our step and stroll competition on Friday night. We met several times with him and his team to detail our requirements, including attire, language and specific songs. Unfortunately, our requirements were ignored. The language, the lyrics and the comments made by the artists were not acceptable. I ended the performance because of the disrespect for our organization and for our brand.
Speaker 4:
[124:55] And a brief word from Trick Daddy.
Speaker 7:
[124:58] Yeah, so...
Speaker 4:
[125:00] And this is a 10 minute clip so I'm not playing the whole thing.
Speaker 7:
[125:02] I wake up this morning.
Speaker 4:
[125:04] Get him Trick.
Speaker 7:
[125:05] I get five, six phone calls, text messages all day. I wonder why people texting me last night, saying certain things to me. So here's the thing, to whoever your organization is, I don't care if you're the director, the president, I don't give a f— what you is to this organization. Don't use my name to clean the same face with your mother f—, don't lie on me. That's the definition of my character. Don't mother f— defamate my character.
Speaker 4:
[125:34] Do not.
Speaker 3:
[125:36] Or defame.
Speaker 7:
[125:36] Okay, defamate. Don't defamate. Defamate my mother f—. Black men? Don't do that. Don't do that. So I make sure y'all can hear me. First of all, I want to make sure I'm loud and clear so y'all can hear me. We hear you. Do not defamate my character. I see a post with a direct report. Well, whatever the f—.
Speaker 6:
[126:08] I love Trick.
Speaker 7:
[126:08] No disrespect to the AKAs.
Speaker 2:
[126:11] Oh, shit. Come on, man, get to it.
Speaker 7:
[126:14] Highly respected, some of the most beautiful attractives and successful women that I know are AKAs. So no disrespect to y'all. But this is to y'all, the regional director, who got me totally f***ed up. This is to y'all, the regional director, who got me totally f***ed up. Don't lie on my motherf***ing name. Well, if you ever f*** me, Anita, don't get on my page acting like this. Don't play with me. Get off my page, hoe, playing all them games.
Speaker 4:
[126:42] All right, we got it. We got an idea.
Speaker 6:
[126:44] But what he went on to say was like, there are no clean versions of my songs. We all discussed this and I said, I wasn't doing clean versions.
Speaker 4:
[126:54] I don't have clean versions.
Speaker 3:
[126:56] Well, how does he not have clean versions? When his videos played on BET, they didn't play.
Speaker 6:
[126:59] He don't have clean versions.
Speaker 2:
[127:00] He don't have them.
Speaker 4:
[127:01] For performance.
Speaker 2:
[127:01] Someone else might have them.
Speaker 6:
[127:02] Yeah, y'all might have them. But for performance, this is the song. Y'all know what y'all getting when y'all book me. This is who I am.
Speaker 2:
[127:11] If you want a clean rap show, you probably should not book Trick Daddy.
Speaker 3:
[127:16] That's all I've been saying from the beginning. My point was that he didn't have hits. It was that he ain't got hits that fit that place.
Speaker 2:
[127:21] So don't book him. But that's not on him. That's on him.
Speaker 3:
[127:24] I just said either don't book him or don't kick him off the stage. You don't get it both ways. If you book them, then you know what you're getting. And you got to eat that.
Speaker 6:
[127:31] I think a couple of them.
Speaker 2:
[127:32] Which is probably one of the bars.
Speaker 3:
[127:35] Or don't book him.
Speaker 7:
[127:36] What did you say?
Speaker 6:
[127:36] There's too many people. Like you got, at an AKA convention, it could be women that...
Speaker 3:
[127:46] You want your auntie hearing this?
Speaker 7:
[127:48] Yes!
Speaker 6:
[127:48] My auntie heard this.
Speaker 4:
[127:49] AKA she heard this in Coolins College. That's why I don't understand what Marc is saying. If you were there when this song came out, if you were outside when this song came out, this is a college hit.
Speaker 3:
[128:02] Okay, let me give you all just two pieces of information. First, black fraternities and sororities go through life, right? So after you grow up, unlike white ones, typically black ones, you still rep the colors, the stuff for life.
Speaker 6:
[128:15] At 70, 80 years old, right?
Speaker 3:
[128:17] But the people that was lit in college don't go to the conferences. And the young people don't go to the conference. These conferences are mostly the old, like 60 and 70 year olds, right?
Speaker 2:
[128:26] Which means they should have been outside for Trick Daddy's run.
Speaker 3:
[128:29] Maybe.
Speaker 4:
[128:29] Not at 70.
Speaker 3:
[128:30] Not at 70. Maybe at 50.
Speaker 4:
[128:33] Wait, no. I thought that's not true. If you're 60 now, 30 years ago, what are you talking about? You was outside.
Speaker 3:
[128:40] Which is point number two, right? To the extent that that's true, point number two, these are very relatively conservative spaces. In the same way that like a church, like a church, a coaching conference or something, right? These are relatively, this is like Jack and Jill. This is like, I mean, this is bougie space. It's older bougie space. And so Trick Daddy coming ain't really it.
Speaker 4:
[129:00] Then the beef is definitely with the regional director.
Speaker 3:
[129:03] I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying don't book them. I'm saying don't book them.
Speaker 1:
[129:06] He said don't book them or don't take them off the stage.
Speaker 4:
[129:08] Yeah, but I'm just disagreeing with Marc because in all of the footage that Trick Daddy posted, they were having a blast.
Speaker 6:
[129:14] And that's my thing. I think they was lit. Well, there was a couple of them in there that might have been clutching their pearls a little bit. And because of that, they act like they ain't know what they're booking.
Speaker 3:
[129:24] The joke's right there. Pearl Necklace Joe Budden's workshop and it didn't have the time.
Speaker 4:
[129:32] Wow, Marc.
Speaker 3:
[129:33] But yeah, no, it's some people up there that's going to love it. But the problem is the leadership, aka all the organizations, not just aka, have a certain idea of how they want to present to the public. So even if it's lit and you like it.
Speaker 6:
[129:45] And aka's are the perceived and stereotypically.
Speaker 3:
[129:50] Look at the comments.
Speaker 6:
[129:51] The cleaners would be.
Speaker 7:
[129:53] Those are the wiggly gilberts.
Speaker 6:
[129:54] Yeah, they are like the bougie, light skinned, fine hair.
Speaker 4:
[129:58] I don't understand why y'all keep saying that.
Speaker 6:
[130:00] Because they have a reputation.
Speaker 4:
[130:02] Y'all keep making it sound like because you're bougie. You don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 6:
[130:07] No, no, no, no.
Speaker 5:
[130:08] They want to throw ass but they don't want to be seen throwing ass.
Speaker 6:
[130:10] They don't want anybody to know that this is what they're doing.
Speaker 3:
[130:12] It's a public image, it's a branding thing is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:
[130:16] Oh, I'm taking y'all.
Speaker 6:
[130:16] There's a person I could compare this to but I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 1:
[130:19] Who?
Speaker 4:
[130:20] Brandy.
Speaker 1:
[130:23] But go ahead.
Speaker 4:
[130:25] Whom we'll get to later.
Speaker 1:
[130:26] Yeah. But it's that.
Speaker 6:
[130:28] It's that.
Speaker 3:
[130:28] I'm glad to hear y'all.
Speaker 4:
[130:30] I'm taking your word for it but on the video they was just jamming it all.
Speaker 3:
[130:33] No, no, I know but the leadership is like we don't want to be seen jamming to Trick Daddy. It's just like if I went to the, perfect example, if I went to Congressional Black Caucus in DC.
Speaker 6:
[130:42] And Juvenile Cash Money taking over for the 99 and the 2000s. And every black woman in there knows that song, then did whatever they did to that song. But when they got their gown on and the cameras are out, they might not be backing that thing up.
Speaker 3:
[130:57] And the ones that are are embarrassing the ones that are because they don't want to be seen doing that.
Speaker 4:
[131:01] Who would be an appropriate performer?
Speaker 3:
[131:04] That's a good question.
Speaker 7:
[131:05] Jay Elect.
Speaker 3:
[131:06] Yeah, for sure. Jay Elect, Yomikis, Jay Elect, Trauma, Dumb and the Salamence, Nelly gonna hit Tic Drill on the monitor.
Speaker 6:
[131:14] Nelly.
Speaker 3:
[131:15] Nelly would be a good one.
Speaker 6:
[131:16] No, he wouldn't. They still remember, they was in college when that happened.
Speaker 3:
[131:19] They had the secrets down in Cancun, but they don't got all of the songs.
Speaker 5:
[131:22] Nelly got a bunch of them.
Speaker 3:
[131:23] They love to be able to say they have some secrets, they can't leave Cancun, it makes them feel edgy, and it can, it gestures to their whole phase. But it's not, it's not the same as...
Speaker 5:
[131:32] He's right. No, no, no.
Speaker 6:
[131:35] If they announce Nelly, they're going immediately back to that scandal from the swipe that was the colleges happening...
Speaker 3:
[131:41] They could probably get over that, but your points won't take... I meant that kind of artist. Nelly, Ja. Nelly, Ja. Ja would be great. Ja would be excellent. I can tell you, for Kappa's one time, we had, maybe like 10 years ago, we had like, maybe 15 years ago, we had like salt and pepper. The old heads wanted salt and pepper. You know what I mean? I think we've had Naughty before. We've had, like, they don't want to draw. They want to look cool without looking...
Speaker 4:
[132:06] Ratchet.
Speaker 3:
[132:06] Not ratchet, exactly.
Speaker 4:
[132:07] So you had fun with salt and pepper. You had fun with it.
Speaker 5:
[132:11] Push it real good.
Speaker 6:
[132:12] Hey, yo, what you was doing, what push it came on?
Speaker 3:
[132:14] Yeah, I was on a school bus pushing it came on.
Speaker 5:
[132:15] I was young.
Speaker 3:
[132:16] I'm talking about at the... I wasn't there.
Speaker 4:
[132:19] At the professional black, Cicaucus, whatever.
Speaker 2:
[132:21] Cicaucus.
Speaker 3:
[132:23] We were in Indiana.
Speaker 2:
[132:30] Cicaucus. Cicaucus. Yo, you are a fool, son.
Speaker 3:
[132:34] I hate this, man.
Speaker 4:
[132:37] Salt and pepper.
Speaker 2:
[132:39] Was they all there?
Speaker 4:
[132:40] You know what the little...
Speaker 3:
[132:41] Spin was there. It is before. Nah, I think about it. Must have been.
Speaker 5:
[132:44] They made up.
Speaker 3:
[132:45] Yeah, Spin was there. Yeah, they cool now.
Speaker 4:
[132:47] Spend it the old Teddy Riley, you know. Hey, here's a new group.
Speaker 5:
[132:55] What's it called?
Speaker 3:
[132:56] Cinnamon Spice.
Speaker 4:
[133:00] Yeah, Paprika and Red Pepper.
Speaker 5:
[133:02] Holy shit.
Speaker 4:
[133:04] All right, well, I'm still on Trick Daddy's side with this. Even if Marc is right, I'm on Trick Daddy's side. If you book me, I'm coming to this show to do my show, and if you have to cut the mics off and the lights off and the sound off to get me to stop, then let you do that.
Speaker 3:
[133:18] The only thing we know is somebody lying though.
Speaker 4:
[133:20] Give me my second half. Where's my second half?
Speaker 6:
[133:22] No, my second half I got before I went on stage.
Speaker 4:
[133:25] Speaking of second half, oh, look at my baby. That's good, that's good. Hey baby, hey baby, where's my second half? Hey Lex.
Speaker 5:
[133:33] Oh, oops.
Speaker 4:
[133:42] Hey, Lex, what up, yo?
Speaker 1:
[133:45] Oh, shit.
Speaker 4:
[133:47] That's my man. He acts so much like me. I'm going to fix him up.
Speaker 5:
[133:51] He won't wait.
Speaker 4:
[133:52] Yeah, I'm going to fix him up. What else we got?
Speaker 3:
[133:54] Some more revelations from...
Speaker 4:
[133:56] Yeah, have you Jay like me?
Speaker 3:
[133:58] From the Brandy book.
Speaker 4:
[133:59] Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:
[134:00] Which I know we've all had time to read now over the weekend.
Speaker 2:
[134:04] That's what I did all weekend, for sure.
Speaker 3:
[134:05] Which is great.
Speaker 4:
[134:06] Did that yesterday.
Speaker 2:
[134:07] Right on Bourbon Street.
Speaker 4:
[134:08] Yeah.
Speaker 3:
[134:09] So there were a couple of things that I thought were great from the book. We're going to get to the one that's on the board, but I just wanted to say the news has been filled with a lot of things. She talked about, in the book, I got to finish the book. She talked about her relationship with Whitney Houston, her last conversation the day before Whitney Houston died. I thought that was a great piece. She talked about her relationship with Ray J. She talked about what it was like, how she felt about herself after that awful car accident. Sure. She talked about lots of stuff, including-
Speaker 4:
[134:37] You're such a fucking prick.
Speaker 3:
[134:38] You really are.
Speaker 4:
[134:39] You're just a prick. That shit don't work up here. That shit work with the rest of the world. That bullshit don't work up here.
Speaker 3:
[134:45] I don't know what y'all are talking about.
Speaker 4:
[134:46] Anyway.
Speaker 3:
[134:46] It was an awful car accident. And she talked about how she felt and the guilt and shame she felt for a long time afterward. She said she felt like a, quote, reckless monster, which I thought was powerful and a lot of accountability. She talked about how the death of Aaliyah cut to the bone.
Speaker 4:
[135:02] All right, Marc, enough of you. Enough of you.
Speaker 3:
[135:03] And now Rodney Jerkins.
Speaker 4:
[135:04] Enough of you now, with your fucking, enough of him. Jesus sickening, all this righteous bullshit.
Speaker 3:
[135:10] I just read, it's a great book.
Speaker 4:
[135:13] It does seem to be a good book. I know my friend of the show, Angie Martinez, hosted the fucking panel where they spoke about all of that. Awesome. The Darkchild clip. The Darkchild clip. That was the one.
Speaker 2:
[135:25] Okay, what'd she say?
Speaker 6:
[135:26] That was a good clip.
Speaker 1:
[135:27] Yeah, I don't know about it.
Speaker 4:
[135:30] She said, and I'm paraphrasing, because I didn't read the book yesterday. But she said that their relationship took a turn and they had creative differences over the human album that she put out, where she felt like she didn't get his best work creatively. One, and two, she felt like she started to hear, it's the Rich Harris and Marie. She felt like she started to hear their sound that they created together. Coming from other prominent female artists. And then when she got with him on Human, she got some mid and the album was unsuccessful. And the relationship was kind of tarnished from that point.
Speaker 2:
[136:17] Okay, so that seems like...
Speaker 4:
[136:19] But what she said, which is the part where, which is the part where I was just like, okay. You know, Brandy's on my list of, I don't say nothing bad about, unless it's that little joke we've been making. You.
Speaker 2:
[136:30] I've made one too.
Speaker 4:
[136:31] Yeah, no, we... But she said that her and Rodney Jerkins were going back and forth like siblings do.
Speaker 6:
[136:41] I got the quote.
Speaker 4:
[136:42] Oh, great.
Speaker 2:
[136:43] Please.
Speaker 6:
[136:44] We were going at it like usual, the way siblings do, when only they know which buttons to push. Only this time he looked me dead in the eye and said, go do what you're gonna do while I go sell five million records with Beyonce.
Speaker 4:
[136:55] That's all we need to hear.
Speaker 2:
[136:55] We don't need direction.
Speaker 4:
[136:57] We don't need direction.
Speaker 3:
[136:59] We can't come back from that.
Speaker 2:
[137:00] So I do have a problem with her saying, this sound that we created you are now giving to other artists, but when we are in the studio, you are giving me mid. If it was a y'all thing, then y'all should have created the shit that you were giving away to. That's absolutely true. You can't take credit for some shit and then take the credit back. They'll apply to you.
Speaker 6:
[137:24] She didn't take the credit. She said collaboratively they were creating. So if you had 50 and I had 50, that's 100. But now if I come to the table with my 50 and you come to the table with 25, that's a 70 or 75 is mid.
Speaker 2:
[137:37] That's not what she's saying. She's saying the sound that we created.
Speaker 6:
[137:40] Yeah, I'm just giving you an example of how you don't necessarily got to come with your best work and we can still get mid.
Speaker 2:
[137:46] Mathematically, that makes sense. Creatively, that does not make sense.
Speaker 6:
[137:49] Either they created the sound or he had the sound.
Speaker 4:
[137:51] Well, does everyone here agree that they had a sound? Yes, right?
Speaker 3:
[137:58] I feel like Rodney Jerkins had a sound.
Speaker 6:
[138:00] No, I think that I ain't going to say that. No, I can't say that. I think I'm either.
Speaker 4:
[138:03] Because the albums that she highlighted where they were in full groove were Full Moon and Never Say Never.
Speaker 6:
[138:08] That Full Moon album.
Speaker 4:
[138:09] And if you are referencing those two albums, there was something unique happening there that we didn't really hear.
Speaker 3:
[138:15] But I just don't, and I agree with that, you're right. I guess I just, I don't know if it's 50-50 is all I'm saying. I don't know, because I wasn't in the studio, who did what.
Speaker 4:
[138:23] And she went on to talk about how some of that consisted of the way that she stacked harmonies.
Speaker 3:
[138:30] Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 1:
[138:31] Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 4:
[138:32] Not stacking of, not the stacking of harmonies, but the way that she specifically stacked them, she started to hear coming from places.
Speaker 3:
[138:39] Okay, that's a fair point. I guess for me, I don't like ultimately, to Parks' point, the idea of saying, I don't like when people are we when we win and you when we lose. That's all I'm saying. That's really all I'm saying.
Speaker 6:
[138:52] That's terrible.
Speaker 4:
[138:53] My problem with the quote is, tell me what you said. Don't just tell me, he said, yo, go do whatever the fuck bullshit you about to do, I'm gonna go sell five million records with Beyonce.
Speaker 6:
[139:05] Sound like a response to something.
Speaker 4:
[139:06] Okay, that's mean.
Speaker 6:
[139:08] It's mean.
Speaker 4:
[139:10] What did you say right before that? Don't just give me the, like, siblings who know how to trigger each other. I want to know what Diva Brandy said to Rodney Jerkins at that time and solicited.
Speaker 6:
[139:23] And see, this is going along, I'm sorry. This is going along, what I've been, the vibe I've been getting from Brandy is...
Speaker 4:
[139:30] End the book.
Speaker 6:
[139:31] I didn't read the book, but just, I'm keeping, I'm doing whatever I got to do to keep this clean image here, and everybody else is the problem. But not saying what I did to contribute, what part I played in any of this. Every story we hear, that we've been hearing, it's always something that this person did.
Speaker 3:
[139:48] Now she did take the blame in the book, though. For example, she took the blame on the Monica thing. She was like, I blame Monica for naming that album The Boy's Mind when it actually, it was Clive, and I didn't take the time to hear Monica sign it, and I poured kerosene on it, my fault. The accident, she said, her fault. So she did take responsibility in some point. I just want to be fair that she did do that sometimes.
Speaker 1:
[140:08] Sometimes I want to say more.
Speaker 6:
[140:11] But those are the ones where you can walk away from. You don't look the other way.
Speaker 3:
[140:14] Hold on.
Speaker 6:
[140:15] Those right there, you don't look any different in the public eye, even if you take accountability for them. Some of these other ones, you might look a little differently, and we've looked at you a certain way forever, so I want you all to get that side because it's going to mess up this perfect image you have of me.
Speaker 3:
[140:29] That's fair. There were some points in the book where I wanted more accountability. I just wanted to point out that she did, it wasn't a complete PR smear job.
Speaker 6:
[140:34] If you're taking accountability on shit that has no gray, right? Is it really accountability? You get what I'm saying? If it's some shit that is...
Speaker 3:
[140:45] So she could have skated on the Boys Masha, she could have just blamed it on Clive Davis and just said, he divided two women and... But she's like, no, I poured kerosene on that shit. He fucked up, but I actually did something too.
Speaker 6:
[140:55] But then Monica could now come out and say, no, that's not what happened. This is exactly what happened.
Speaker 1:
[141:00] I got a question for y'all. So would y'all say that Say My Name would be, that Beyonce did would be a Brandy sound? Say My Name, Say My Name.
Speaker 3:
[141:08] Oh, Destiny's Child.
Speaker 6:
[141:09] That's Destiny's Child.
Speaker 1:
[141:10] I know, but Beyonce, would that be like...
Speaker 4:
[141:15] What are you asking? Seriously.
Speaker 1:
[141:17] What's so funny, I could hear Brandy singing it. I'm not laughing at y'all.
Speaker 6:
[141:20] No, I could hear Brandy singing that.
Speaker 1:
[141:21] That's what I'm asking you. She said that, thank you, Ish. She said that, yo, you took the sound that we created, and you went... I heard prominent acts singing what we created, correct? So I'm asking you guys as music buffs, if the same My Name song as Destiny's Child, can you hear Brandy singing it? Would that be considered one of the sounds that he took?
Speaker 2:
[141:42] Maybe. I would also wonder if there's any Brandy songs that Rodney did not produce that he could say, you took the sauce that we created together and created that.
Speaker 6:
[141:49] I'm not mad at him for taking the sauce somewhere else. I think that once you start creating, you can't unlearn what you learned and just hold it over there for that one particular person. But at the same token, now when you come back in the studio with me, give me that fire that you get in everybody else. And she might not have felt like he was giving it to her. I'm not saying one is right and one is wrong.
Speaker 3:
[142:11] She also bailed on me. She made a choice with that album. She talks about a little bit in the book, but she talks about it in other places too. There's a viral clip going around of her kicking Rodney's back in like 10 different places. She made a decision to make a pop album. She decided that Humans wasn't going to be the same sound. She made a decision and it's like, and a lot of RBRs swing for the fences with a pop album and then when they miss, they blame somebody else. Again, I'm not saying Brandy's wrong or right. I'm saying they made a bad album. It was objectively not a good album. We won as a team, we lost as a team. To me, that should be it.
Speaker 6:
[142:46] It shouldn't have even came out publicly.
Speaker 3:
[142:47] That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2:
[142:49] It's also, in my opinion, irresponsible to blame the producers for the beats that you picked. Right. You could have said, no, these aren't good enough. Let me go somewhere else. I got to find a different producer, go a different direction.
Speaker 3:
[143:01] You're Brandy. You could do that.
Speaker 4:
[143:02] That gets tricky for me because at some point, you can ask the producer to play 500 beats. At some point, you'll know when they're not giving you their best. You know as an artist when the producer is keeping a certain folder away from you.
Speaker 3:
[143:15] What do you do as an artist then?
Speaker 4:
[143:16] There's nothing you can do.
Speaker 6:
[143:17] Six months later, you hear all this fire coming from them for this other artist, or these other two artists. You ain't played me that pack.
Speaker 3:
[143:24] This is a question I'm really asking. Why do you have to put out an album? You're Brandy. Why don't you wait or find new producers?
Speaker 2:
[143:29] I've also seen the situations, by the way, where people say, you held this shit away from me, and then they pull up an email and be like, I sent you this beat. You just didn't hear it the way that you supposed to hear it.
Speaker 6:
[143:41] You were in a different zone when that beat came on.
Speaker 2:
[143:43] That happens a lot.
Speaker 6:
[143:44] To answer your question, because this other artist right here is on my ass now.
Speaker 3:
[143:47] So I want to get something out.
Speaker 6:
[143:48] I got to remind you, oh shit, you over there dropping the heat. Let me get back out here and let you know.
Speaker 3:
[143:53] But then that goes back to, you made a decision. Live it out with it.
Speaker 4:
[143:56] And respectfully, now that I look up... I think it was when that Human album came out, because I have no idea about anything that's on that album. It says here 2008. Respectfully, the Brandy run is over at that point. Again, not only is the Brandy run over, so I could see somebody not giving her the best work. But two, I think that their issues happened before that, because then was the Timbaland album came. The Timbaland album and the Kanye, whatever that was came after the run. So there was no Darkchild and all of us were saying, hey, that's odd. How you go classic, classic, that. So I don't really agree with her timeline. I don't think that the issues happened to humans. I think they came before. They did.
Speaker 2:
[144:43] It's possible.
Speaker 3:
[144:45] They may have.
Speaker 4:
[144:46] I love that Timbaland album. That's the ship with the TI joint where I want to be. She spoke about her and Kanye's session, making the Kanye produced tracks on that album. I was on her side of that one. Kanye was just being a dick. It's just possible that Brandy is an asshole.
Speaker 2:
[145:06] That is possible.
Speaker 6:
[145:07] And don't want nobody to see it.
Speaker 2:
[145:08] That is possible.
Speaker 3:
[145:08] I mean, it's hard for me to believe that Ray J's sister could be an asshole. I don't see it.
Speaker 2:
[145:15] The term diva also happens to usually carry some asshole implications.
Speaker 3:
[145:20] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[145:21] It's not all positive.
Speaker 4:
[145:22] You know what else is funny? I don't know many instances where the artist wins this one.
Speaker 6:
[145:29] What do you mean?
Speaker 4:
[145:31] Like, it is kind of cutting your nose to spite your face, even if there's credence to what she is saying. If I roll with everything she's saying, I don't know the artist to win when you go against the super producer that you had a marriage with and had classics with, and now you go a different way, and the producer is able to go take his sauce and apply it to the field, and you're left to go find a new sauce. I think Amy Reid was extremely mature and professional after all these years when we asked her, hey, because I was trying to get to it, how did you feel hearing Crazy in Love, knowing Rich Harris and one thing, and I know what the talk was, whatever the answer she gave, class, class personified, but again, that's after years of coming to terms.
Speaker 6:
[146:16] And she wasn't really a diva like that. Yeah, she was cool, sure. You get what I'm saying? With Brandy being that diva mindset, no, I'm not accepting that. Or, Amy Reid, no disrespect to Amy Reid, was never a Brandy, right? She was never looked at and didn't have the success that a Brandy had. So she might not even been in a space where she can even object to you giving my sauce out to somebody else. You hear what I'm saying? Because it ain't your sauce. Now, if Amy Reid had a track record of three, four, five successful projects where she was a household name, Brandy's been in TV, movies, music, all of these things, she has a little more cache than Amy Reid had at the time.
Speaker 4:
[146:59] I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:
[146:59] Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6:
[147:01] You get what I'm saying? So yeah, like Amy Reid can't say nothing.
Speaker 4:
[147:05] If you're anywhere talking about our sauce, when y'all split, you have to show your side of the sauce. And many could argue that Brandy has not.
Speaker 6:
[147:17] And that's when reality set in. So it's at that point, though. So now Rodney Jerkins might be like, yo, I'm tired of you saying that this is our sauce. Go make, her mother saying they may ho. Say okay.
Speaker 1:
[147:31] You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6:
[147:31] Go make another one. And you haven't done that.
Speaker 4:
[147:34] I got to pull up all of Darkchild's fucking productions. He left Brandy to go to Michael Jackson, Beyonce.
Speaker 1:
[147:43] And I'm going to keep up.
Speaker 6:
[147:44] This is going to sound crazy. This is going to sound fucked up. I might really be saving the pack for the artist that I'm going to go diamond with.
Speaker 4:
[147:51] And that hurts. As long as it hurts.
Speaker 6:
[147:53] I might be saving the sauce for the mother I'm going to go diamond with. But unfortunately, that could be, I'm not saying it is, that could be possibly true.
Speaker 3:
[148:04] But then there's the human part of that, because I agree with that. There's the human part of it, which is if we are like siblings and you do love me and you know that's a sore spot.
Speaker 6:
[148:12] I got four or five sisters.
Speaker 5:
[148:14] Right.
Speaker 2:
[148:15] It's like, no, I'm done.
Speaker 3:
[148:18] And again, you ain't got to say it to me. I ain't say it, don't do it. I just say you ain't got to say it.
Speaker 6:
[148:23] Depending on what did you say before that?
Speaker 3:
[148:25] I'm with you, because Luther Vandross and Aretha Franklin had a very similar argument when After Jump 2 came out and it was a student next time, she was not listening to Luther, who was producing the record. And she was like, I am the queen of soul. He said, I am the person that gave you your first hit in 15 years. And she put on a mink and walked the fuck out and didn't speak to Luther for a very long time. It was like, them words, divas, they know what to say. And that was two divas, they even know what to say to cut her. You know what I mean? And when you do what you know you're doing that, you know it's at stake. I'm not mad at him for selling five of his records to Beyonce. You ain't got to say that, doofy, that tight.
Speaker 4:
[149:03] Again, I'm just trying to find her. But I want to go here before that. There ain't no dark child did this.
Speaker 2:
[149:20] It's got a lot. OK, he's got a lot.
Speaker 4:
[149:22] Let me see. I'm just trying to look at what records was coming out around that time.
Speaker 2:
[149:27] In what era?
Speaker 6:
[149:28] 06.
Speaker 4:
[149:29] Right after Full Moon.
Speaker 3:
[149:31] Brandy's 2002.
Speaker 2:
[149:33] I mean, cater to you.
Speaker 3:
[149:36] Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 6:
[149:39] And I'm just saying massive levels of success with all of these other new people. I might start.
Speaker 4:
[149:45] And Darkchild did One Wish for Ray J?
Speaker 2:
[149:48] Yeah. Yeah. He did a lot of shit. Deja Vu, Beyonce.
Speaker 4:
[149:53] Mary.
Speaker 2:
[149:54] Yeah, Mary. A bunch of Mary shit, yeah.
Speaker 4:
[149:55] Sorry, Brandy.
Speaker 6:
[149:56] Mad Mary shit.
Speaker 4:
[149:57] Michael Jackson, yeah. Sorry, Brandy, I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie to you.
Speaker 2:
[150:05] The world needs the sauce.
Speaker 6:
[150:09] Oh, shit, he did Sierra Promise.
Speaker 3:
[150:11] He did everything. God damn it.
Speaker 4:
[150:14] Yeah. I could see Brandy having an issue. I love Darkchild. When I was supposed to put my second album out, Def Jam sent me that later, worked with Rodney Jerkins and his whole team and crew to just live out there for old five.
Speaker 6:
[150:31] Because, you know, Rest In Peace, LaShawn. LaShawn used to be writing a bunch of that shit. He went to high school with me.
Speaker 5:
[150:37] LaShawn Daniels, from here.
Speaker 4:
[150:39] He had the writers' camp. He had all the producers in there. And he was in superstar mode. But he was still, you could still work with him. Like, you could still access him. And he still was passionate about breaking new acts. That's the part I'm sure drove her crazy. It's not just the sound. It's breaking new... You're building my competition with it. But he was in there playing.
Speaker 6:
[151:02] And I'm vying for...
Speaker 4:
[151:03] His whole team was playing. He on some locking shit. I have no idea what Def Jam paid him for me to go do that. And I went in there and did the Def Jam diss. Hey, really easy to see why my career just never landed where it was. I wasn't emotionally stable enough. But Shad and the Darkchild, he was great. He was great when I met him. I'm sorry that him and Brandy didn't work out. But we did get Never Say Never and Full Moon, which are two classics. Two classics.
Speaker 2:
[151:33] Big Jersey, too.
Speaker 4:
[151:34] What else we got?
Speaker 6:
[151:37] You said you wanted to ask us to fill in the blank, gang. You told me to bring it up.
Speaker 4:
[151:43] And you did.
Speaker 5:
[151:43] I'm glad you did. Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[151:45] Yeah, I'm glad you did. It's super immature.
Speaker 6:
[151:47] Oh, great. It's our type of time.
Speaker 3:
[151:49] Didn't expect anything else.
Speaker 4:
[151:49] It's super immature.
Speaker 6:
[151:50] Our type of time.
Speaker 4:
[151:51] I'm going to give it to you. Please fill in the blank to the best of your ability. It's not going to make no sense, but just do it anyway.
Speaker 5:
[151:59] Okay.
Speaker 2:
[152:02] This is a jump ball or you want to go one by one?
Speaker 4:
[152:05] Oh, I don't care. Get jumping. You can jump all day.
Speaker 2:
[152:07] Cool.
Speaker 4:
[152:09] Tejah Moses.
Speaker 1:
[152:11] Oh, my God.
Speaker 4:
[152:13] Be looking like she blank. I repeat. Tejah Moses be looking like she blank. I'm assuming the room knows who Tejah Moses is. I follow her on Instagram.
Speaker 2:
[152:37] I don't think I've seen her picture of her in some time.
Speaker 4:
[152:39] Me neither. It's all videos. Tejah Moses is amazing, elegant, classy.
Speaker 1:
[152:46] Amazing.
Speaker 4:
[152:47] She's the shit. Yeah. But Tejah Moses be looking like she blank.
Speaker 1:
[153:02] I don't know. I'm looking at her singing in the follow.
Speaker 3:
[153:03] Can't think of anything.
Speaker 2:
[153:09] Got that, boy.
Speaker 4:
[153:11] Anybody?
Speaker 3:
[153:11] Nope. Nope.
Speaker 2:
[153:12] I think that.
Speaker 3:
[153:14] That's good. That's why I said, right?
Speaker 2:
[153:15] Anybody? Come on.
Speaker 3:
[153:16] I got nothing.
Speaker 5:
[153:17] Ha! Ha!
Speaker 2:
[153:21] These sound like questions that are about to get us in trouble. Okay.
Speaker 4:
[153:24] Well, there's no answer to it. It's just a blank.
Speaker 5:
[153:26] Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 4:
[153:27] We can't get in trouble if it's a blank.
Speaker 2:
[153:30] We can.
Speaker 4:
[153:32] If it's a blank.
Speaker 1:
[153:33] She got the... Did it low.
Speaker 7:
[153:34] Just say, did it low.
Speaker 5:
[153:36] Oh, I know.
Speaker 6:
[153:37] What I will say is, I see the same icon under every picture.
Speaker 3:
[153:42] In a floatin, white shirt, little black on it.
Speaker 6:
[153:45] Yeah, yeah. You know the one I was talkin about.
Speaker 5:
[153:47] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:
[153:47] What's up, T-Dra?
Speaker 4:
[153:49] Well, I support musicians.
Speaker 5:
[153:50] I know.
Speaker 4:
[153:50] I support musicians.
Speaker 6:
[153:51] That's peace.
Speaker 4:
[153:52] And if T-Dra Moses ever wants to come over here and kick it.
Speaker 6:
[153:54] I know, for sure.
Speaker 4:
[153:55] She is absolutely welcome up here. She got my shoes. This is an open... She got your shoes.
Speaker 3:
[154:00] She won't kick it. And salute to her sons.
Speaker 4:
[154:03] This guy is such a dad.
Speaker 3:
[154:05] Shut up, yo.
Speaker 4:
[154:06] He's such a dad. Some old shit.
Speaker 2:
[154:10] She can have the worst.
Speaker 4:
[154:12] She can have my shoes. Your shoe size is kind of... teacher motions.
Speaker 2:
[154:18] Oh shit.
Speaker 4:
[154:20] Alright. Looks like we can't get an answer here. What's the answer?
Speaker 3:
[154:23] Salute the teacher.
Speaker 4:
[154:23] I don't have the answer.
Speaker 3:
[154:24] Salute the teacher.
Speaker 4:
[154:25] I know what you'll be looking like.
Speaker 5:
[154:27] She'll let you get it.
Speaker 1:
[154:30] Shout out to the teacher. I know her.
Speaker 3:
[154:32] Shout out to her kids. They tied your rods for Coach Contreras.
Speaker 4:
[154:42] I'm trying to be for a change.
Speaker 5:
[154:44] She looks amazing.
Speaker 7:
[154:47] Righteous, the caucus shit.
Speaker 5:
[154:49] Yo, yo.
Speaker 6:
[154:54] Teacher Moses is in Newark on the 9th.
Speaker 4:
[154:57] The 9th what?
Speaker 5:
[154:57] Of April.
Speaker 1:
[154:59] Let me see if I got hot numbers.
Speaker 6:
[155:00] Flowetry Say Yes Tour, featuring Raheem Devon and Teejah Moses.
Speaker 4:
[155:04] Damn it, that's the Nick Gang.
Speaker 3:
[155:05] I'm going.
Speaker 4:
[155:07] What time is that show? I would go to that.
Speaker 3:
[155:09] Eight, I think.
Speaker 6:
[155:09] Yeah, probably eight.
Speaker 4:
[155:10] Same time as the Nick Gang. Tough decision.
Speaker 1:
[155:13] Pull up on her, boy. Satisfy her up here.
Speaker 3:
[155:15] And I told you, sis from Flowetry also said she got some music for you to hear.
Speaker 4:
[155:18] That's a good dog, we talking, He said Flowetry.
Speaker 1:
[155:23] Shout out to Flowetry, though.
Speaker 3:
[155:25] That is they show.
Speaker 1:
[155:26] Teejah Moses, man, shout to you, man. You look the finest wine, Teejah Moses. will take you up in the studio. will smoke your booze. Look at this with our sons.
Speaker 5:
[155:35] Teejah, what?
Speaker 4:
[155:38] what? I know, I know, girl.
Speaker 1:
[155:48] Teejah, why not for Imani?
Speaker 4:
[155:50] Hey, Teejah Moses, we fans, girl. That's all I'm saying. We are fans. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1:
[155:54] Beautiful.
Speaker 4:
[155:55] Hey, and I'm sure the other dude, Teejah Moses fans out there, play the Phil and the Blade game.
Speaker 6:
[156:00] Go on Instagram and then, you know.
Speaker 3:
[156:02] Any other?
Speaker 1:
[156:02] Marc shout out Hassan.
Speaker 4:
[156:04] No, no, Marc is a no-way. That was crazy, yo.
Speaker 1:
[156:07] I thought you had tricks. You play a daydream. You shout out to my young boy, just a little. Yeah, I know Marc.
Speaker 4:
[156:11] Yeah, Marc is.
Speaker 3:
[156:12] I'm a Coast Country fan.
Speaker 1:
[156:13] How you know they sound like Hassan?
Speaker 3:
[156:14] Coast Country, because one of the Coast Country is from Philly.
Speaker 1:
[156:18] Who?
Speaker 2:
[156:18] Oh, really?
Speaker 4:
[156:20] Do y'all care that Savannah Guthrie is back on the news?
Speaker 1:
[156:23] Yes.
Speaker 2:
[156:25] Have they called her mom yet?
Speaker 3:
[156:27] That's why I care. I think we're getting closer to cracking this case.
Speaker 4:
[156:31] Are we?
Speaker 1:
[156:31] Allegedly.
Speaker 3:
[156:32] Yeah, I've drawn some conclusions.
Speaker 4:
[156:34] Nancy Guthrie is still missing. Savannah is back on TV doing the news. It's probably been over two months now. I want to say we don't have any word about mom, Dukes. The news ain't saying what some people are thinking.
Speaker 6:
[156:48] TMZ got another hit, right?
Speaker 4:
[156:49] And TMZ has another hit. I think TMZ should be investigated. Morning. Welcome to today on this Monday morning. We are so glad you started your week with us.
Speaker 2:
[156:59] And it is good to be home.
Speaker 7:
[157:00] Yes.
Speaker 1:
[157:01] It is good to have you back at home.
Speaker 4:
[157:02] Well, here we go. Ready or not, let's do the news.
Speaker 7:
[157:05] So good to have you back. SG, come on out here.
Speaker 4:
[157:12] I mean, I'm happy she's back at work.
Speaker 1:
[157:16] But why do you feel like TMZ should be investigated?
Speaker 4:
[157:21] TMZ being cool with.
Speaker 2:
[157:24] Kidnappers.
Speaker 4:
[157:25] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[157:27] They might be.
Speaker 4:
[157:27] Kidnappers, coroners. Yeah, TMZ, I just think it's shady. They're shady for many, many, many, many, many different reasons. But I'm saying they should be investigated because every clue we ever get or every note we ever get about Nancy Guthrie comes from TMZ. The Bitcoin shit came from TMZ. The second that Savannah went back on the news, TMZ got another Bitcoin, something that they get to report. And like, get the TMZ the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2:
[157:54] It's odd.
Speaker 4:
[157:55] It's odd.
Speaker 3:
[157:56] I used to work for a network that used to get those kind of clues. You know, Al Jazeera, I told you before, I was talking about Lydon would occasionally drop us the mixtape.
Speaker 4:
[158:03] You're talking about Al Jazeera, Mika?
Speaker 1:
[158:04] No, I'm just saying, like, sometimes the criminal drops us information.
Speaker 5:
[158:10] Don't mean we in on it. It just means they know that's how you're going to get it out.
Speaker 6:
[158:13] Oh, I view the biggest outlet that's known for certain types. I know where to get this from.
Speaker 1:
[158:17] Because how would they get it, Joe, if they didn't get it from the people?
Speaker 6:
[158:19] They can't upload it themselves. Well, these dumb niggas will. But I'm talking about the next level of criminal, we're going to get this anonymously to TMZ.
Speaker 2:
[158:27] But shouldn't they give some proper authorities the information?
Speaker 3:
[158:32] So, if I commit a crime and come to you as a reporter, yeah, you have to do that. But if I say, as a confidential source, I know who did what and I got my hands on it. I ain't do nothing wrong. Now you're protecting your source. So there's a way that you can kind of navigate it so that you don't look like. So that you're-
Speaker 6:
[158:48] Cook and Sparrow. You ain't in cahoots. Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[158:50] Well, TMZ looks like they're in cahoots.
Speaker 3:
[158:52] I think they're comfortable with that.
Speaker 4:
[158:54] Yeah, word. Run it up. We hope that Nancy Guthrie is alright.
Speaker 3:
[159:00] Word. Do you think she's alright?
Speaker 4:
[159:01] Not at all. Not in the slightest.
Speaker 3:
[159:04] You think Savannah knows?
Speaker 4:
[159:06] I don't feel liberty to answer. Do I think she knows?
Speaker 3:
[159:10] Like, do you think she- I'm not saying, like, is she in on it? I mean, like, do you think she- like, like, my gut says she knows more than she's saying. I'm not saying she did anything wrong. I'm just saying I think she knows more than she's saying. That's my-
Speaker 4:
[159:21] I think many people involved in the case know more than they're saying.
Speaker 3:
[159:25] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[159:25] I'm not saying anybody's involved. I'm with you. But this has been too long with too prominent of a parent for us to not have anything. Like this is a crock of shit.
Speaker 6:
[159:35] Not too much money.
Speaker 4:
[159:37] And nobody's even coming out to say, all right, by now we have- listen, on the docks, when they spend all the money to go looking for somebody, when they don't find them, they come- listen, we are- we don't have a body, but we are chalking it up. This person is deaf certificate, not coming back. We ain't even got that lingo yet.
Speaker 3:
[159:55] By the way, the tipster who spoke to TMZ said, I saw her alive with kidnappers in Mexico. Huh? And that the tipster still- and that tipster still wants Bitcoin. So they're at least keeping- I don't know if it's true or not, but they're at least keeping this going. Like, she's there, she's alive, pay me.
Speaker 4:
[160:14] They got to stop.
Speaker 3:
[160:15] I'm not buying it.
Speaker 4:
[160:16] Yeah, they got to stop.
Speaker 2:
[160:17] Something's fishy.
Speaker 4:
[160:18] It's very fishy.
Speaker 3:
[160:18] Yeah. Agreed.
Speaker 4:
[160:21] Jonathan May just fell out of window. See, not just the five-year-old in the Bronx. Is he all right? He- Oh, is that Jonathan May? I don't know. He go home to making good every night. He's fine. You go home to making good. You survived the 20-story fall.
Speaker 2:
[160:35] This is probably true.
Speaker 4:
[160:36] You got to get up and make it home now.
Speaker 1:
[160:38] He fell out the window while filming his action movie.
Speaker 2:
[160:40] Was it a stunt?
Speaker 6:
[160:41] I was about to say, was it part of the movie?
Speaker 1:
[160:42] Yeah, no.
Speaker 4:
[160:44] And then, was that the Maga Back movie?
Speaker 1:
[160:47] Somebody said the whole set walked off, and they said that we don't deal with Communism or Communists. Let me just get the right quote. It doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2:
[160:56] What the fuck is Communism?
Speaker 1:
[160:59] It was all over on the Internet. I believe you.
Speaker 4:
[161:01] I'd rather fall out the window than have that accident on Alec Baldwin's set.
Speaker 2:
[161:07] Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[161:08] Get up, wipe yourself off, Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[161:10] Yeah.
Speaker 4:
[161:10] Shout out to John DeMajor.
Speaker 2:
[161:11] Shout out to John DeMajor.
Speaker 4:
[161:12] I don't have anything else that's super pertinent that I have to get to here. I don't know. The rest of this shit I can ask y'all later.
Speaker 7:
[161:20] Cool.
Speaker 6:
[161:21] Sounds good to me.
Speaker 2:
[161:21] Oh, you wanted to...
Speaker 6:
[161:22] Six feet window.
Speaker 2:
[161:23] You wanted to bring some moon information to our astronomers friends.
Speaker 4:
[161:28] Oh, Artemis II. Artemis II is headed back home.
Speaker 6:
[161:35] Awesome.
Speaker 4:
[161:36] They've reached further than any human has ever reached in distance past the moon. Circling, coming back. Yeah, all that.
Speaker 2:
[161:46] Got some new pictures of the earth from up there and all that.
Speaker 3:
[161:47] It's a beautiful picture.
Speaker 4:
[161:48] The earth is round.
Speaker 3:
[161:52] Spherical.
Speaker 4:
[161:53] But I wasn't even bringing it up on the fucking flat earth front. I know that we have some people here that... I know we have some people here that don't... May not believe that we went to the moon, not to rehash it. Do y'all believe Artemis II?
Speaker 6:
[162:08] Yes.
Speaker 4:
[162:08] Yes.
Speaker 2:
[162:09] Why?
Speaker 4:
[162:09] Okay.
Speaker 6:
[162:10] I believe we have the technology and shit today to make it up to at least...
Speaker 2:
[162:14] Do a little trippy trip.
Speaker 4:
[162:15] Yeah.
Speaker 6:
[162:16] I believe that today.
Speaker 3:
[162:18] How about you, Ish?
Speaker 6:
[162:20] Yeah. I'll second that.
Speaker 3:
[162:22] So, on Artemis II, they posted from Artemis II a picture of the earth as a sphere. Does that put that to bed for y'all?
Speaker 5:
[162:31] No.
Speaker 6:
[162:32] I don't know where that picture came from.
Speaker 3:
[162:35] It's been a great show.
Speaker 5:
[162:36] The baddies are insecure.
Speaker 3:
[162:38] The staggots want to travel.
Speaker 6:
[162:40] I can post all this chat, all this AI shit now. I don't know where that picture came from.
Speaker 1:
[162:45] I want to clean up. Ish, I fell for one of your moves with that Jonathan Major shit, man. I fell for one of the AI shits. My fault. He did fall out the window with that.
Speaker 3:
[162:56] Why you have the accountability to throw him under the bus?
Speaker 1:
[162:58] Because, man, this is my man. I got to violate that. I got to. I fell for one of the Ish moves. I just have to. He's just a nigger that you want to violate. Look at him. Just staring at who he think he is. Look how he acts. I don't want to say nothing. fuck him. But I fell for one of your moves, bro, and I cleaned it up. You'll clean this shit up?
Speaker 6:
[163:19] I don't even know what this guy is talking about.
Speaker 1:
[163:21] One of your moves where you fall for something that a conspiracy.
Speaker 3:
[163:24] Life is a serious moment.
Speaker 1:
[163:25] So I had to clean it up because the kicked my back in. You don't pay attention to that. That's why. So you wouldn't know. My, give me a pat.
Speaker 6:
[163:32] Nah, I'm good.
Speaker 1:
[163:35] Why do you feel the way you have to be?
Speaker 2:
[163:36] What happened to Friends?
Speaker 3:
[163:37] I know, right?
Speaker 6:
[163:39] We couldn't make it one episode.
Speaker 4:
[163:46] I think I did a good job being friends this episode.
Speaker 3:
[163:48] You did all right. You and your best behavior.
Speaker 4:
[163:50] I think I'm gonna be this way.
Speaker 3:
[163:56] That is the best part of this song. I do it every time it comes up.
Speaker 4:
[163:59] I don't know if I'd be able to be a friend every pod though. Like this was cool, but it was kind of bland. It's like I want to shoot. I ain't gonna lie. But I'll let y'all know that that episode was so fire, I should stay home more. I agree with that.
Speaker 3:
[164:15] Okay.
Speaker 4:
[164:16] I agree with that. That's how we keep the friendship going.
Speaker 1:
[164:19] Facts.
Speaker 3:
[164:20] I could do some Friday afternoons.
Speaker 6:
[164:23] Yeah, take some off.
Speaker 3:
[164:25] Yeah, you should consider that. You need more time to yourself.
Speaker 4:
[164:28] Fuck you, Marc.
Speaker 3:
[164:29] Some Joe time.
Speaker 1:
[164:30] What the fuck up?
Speaker 4:
[164:33] Listen, man, it's a good show. Good show, good vibes. I had a real good weekend. Let me cut this off, man, let me cut this off for a minute. Yeah, I sent, that's probably why I came in here on some friendship shit, too. My weekend was so good with family and all that. I started, I just felt, I sent mushy texts to everybody. Sent my older brother mushy texts. Like, you know, it meant a lot to me, you coming out. Y'all, I love you. I appreciate you. That's dope, man. Yeah, like, sending mushy texts, corny, but it's fly. You do have to do it every once in a while. That's dope.
Speaker 3:
[165:07] You do.
Speaker 6:
[165:08] It's not corny.
Speaker 3:
[165:09] You do.
Speaker 4:
[165:09] Again, happy birthday to my aunt, Catherine. Happy birthday.
Speaker 3:
[165:12] Happy birthday.
Speaker 4:
[165:13] Happy 90th. That was awesome. Awesome time out there. Shout out to the whole family, Buddens, Ramses, people that was there, people that wasn't there. I was like, damn, I don't think I've, like, been to, like, a 90th birthday party before.
Speaker 2:
[165:29] I don't think I have either, actually.
Speaker 4:
[165:31] And my mom was like, no, my mom, you was, turned 90. And she had a 90th birthday, remember? I can't say I get in trouble. Please sit in the air. Please don't. I did tell, hey, ma. When your mother turned 90, I can't, you look at it, I'm gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 2:
[165:56] Yeah, don't do it.
Speaker 4:
[165:57] I'm gonna get in trouble, I can't. But it was a different 90.
Speaker 2:
[165:59] It's not worth it.
Speaker 4:
[166:00] Like, we was helping her walk, like it was.
Speaker 1:
[166:03] Yo, you gotta stop it. Stop, shut the up. Shut up.
Speaker 6:
[166:06] In this pot, yo.
Speaker 4:
[166:07] Rest in peace to my grandma.
Speaker 1:
[166:08] Why would you say that, yo?
Speaker 4:
[166:09] What?
Speaker 1:
[166:10] You don't have to cross the line all the time. You see the line then, Just stop at the red.
Speaker 2:
[166:15] He said, fuck that line.
Speaker 6:
[166:17] Every time.
Speaker 4:
[166:18] No, not at all. Not at all.
Speaker 1:
[166:20] No, your mom gonna get mad.
Speaker 4:
[166:21] Rest in peace to my grandma. And again, happy birthday, Dawn Catherine. Good vibes, good times, man. Y'all got any plans for the week? Any plans for the week? Plans for the week? Plans for the week?
Speaker 2:
[166:30] Ah, nah.
Speaker 6:
[166:32] No, not at all.
Speaker 2:
[166:33] Like, like this week.
Speaker 4:
[166:34] I gotta figure out how to go to the Nick Game and the Teacher Moses concert now. Hey, listen, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, I bid you a due farewell. Adios, ariva durci, hasta la vista, arbois. So long, goodbye, or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass. Hey, so let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Hey, actually, this is a perfect example of what Brandy was talking about with Doctor. I was heated at Just Blaze.
Speaker 3:
[167:15] For real?
Speaker 4:
[167:17] No, it's Fire.
Speaker 2:
[167:18] Yeah, yeah. Fire.
Speaker 4:
[167:20] I was tied at Just Blaze over this shit. I got over it.
Speaker 2:
[167:22] How soon did this come out after?
Speaker 4:
[167:24] A month.
Speaker 2:
[167:25] I can see that.
Speaker 4:
[167:26] A month, two months, three months, four months, whatever. It was right after Fire. This shit went off and then Fire couldn't take off on radio because there's some holes in the house, there's some holes in the house. And then this was like a clean fit. Oh, I was fucking gonna kill somebody. It wasn't meant for me to make it. It wasn't.
Speaker 2:
[167:44] The odds are psyched against me.
Speaker 4:
[167:45] Listen. Hey, you can't say that now. Ain't nobody doing nothing interesting this week. What a bunch of washed.
Speaker 2:
[168:35] That's a fact.
Speaker 4:
[168:37] Jesus, man.
Speaker 2:
[168:39] I had too much fun this week and I gotta chill out.
Speaker 4:
[168:41] Yeah. Yeah, I was in bed all Monday off that week in the travel.
Speaker 2:
[168:45] I went to bed at 10 o'clock last night.
Speaker 4:
[168:48] Yeah.
Speaker 2:
[168:48] I hate that shit. Well, it was 6 o'clock in the morning, all refreshed. Who wants to live like that?
Speaker 3:
[168:56] All right, all right, all right.
Speaker 4:
[168:58] Come on, because I'm getting mad all over. Shout out to Rodney, the whole Jersey, the whole North.
Speaker 3:
[169:37] Now, look what you did.
Speaker 2:
[169:39] Now you fucked up our cool little touch my computer again, nigga.