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Speaker 1:
[00:00] Just a reminder that tickets for Bus Boys, the movie, with myself and David Spade, are on sale right now. Pre-sale tickets, you can get them. It's in theaters April 17th, but if you get tickets now, it'll show the movie theaters that we're gonna sell them, or that they are selling, and then we can expand to more theaters. So, if you know when you're gonna go, and you can support, that would be great. And no pressure if you can't. Again, the pre-sale tickets are available. busboysmovie.com. I'm excited, thank you. Today's guest is one of the biggest country artists in the game right now, and I think for the future. She's got that power in her voice. She's got that, you know, it's raw, but refined. It's delightful. Her new album Dandelion is out Friday, April 10th. Wherever you stream music and she'll be taking it on tour as well. I'm excited to sit down today with the one of one Miss Ella Langley. And it's a little warm in here, do y'all feel that?

Speaker 2:
[01:27] I feel great.

Speaker 1:
[01:29] Damn, all right. You feel, you want a little flow?

Speaker 2:
[01:36] My little brother.

Speaker 1:
[01:36] He ordered it, yeah, I know he is, I met him on the way in.

Speaker 2:
[01:40] You meet the whole family now, pretty much.

Speaker 1:
[01:42] Hey, I have. I have. That guy was fresh off the damn boat, he seemed like he had some real grit to him. We'll talk about him.

Speaker 2:
[01:53] You can say that.

Speaker 1:
[01:54] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[01:56] He do.

Speaker 1:
[01:57] He do. Yeah, he do. Yeah, I met y'all's granddaddy, he was a real, he definitely seemed like he could just fix a flat tire with his tongue. That guy had some grit in him.

Speaker 2:
[02:09] What?

Speaker 1:
[02:09] I mean, not like in a pervert way, just I mean, he seemed like he could just hold a car up while somebody fixed a tire.

Speaker 2:
[02:15] He does love cars.

Speaker 1:
[02:16] Does he really?

Speaker 2:
[02:16] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[02:17] I didn't know that.

Speaker 2:
[02:18] Tesla's big Tesla guy.

Speaker 1:
[02:20] He is? He's like one of them future babies or whatever? Sure, yeah. But I mean, he's like a guy that, I don't know, I've pictured him more of like a garage type of guy, maybe. I don't know. Maybe I didn't. He said he went to see The Grateful Dead, I think I remember him saying.

Speaker 2:
[02:37] Yeah, he's my hippie grandpa.

Speaker 1:
[02:39] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[02:40] Yeah, so my parents are split in two kind of like my mom's, you met her too.

Speaker 1:
[02:44] Oh yeah, I met your mom.

Speaker 2:
[02:45] Yeah, you did.

Speaker 1:
[02:47] Dude, I met your mom. I talked to her for probably almost 20 minutes.

Speaker 2:
[02:49] I know. I came in and you were hanging out with my mom and my grandpa. Yes. What's going on here?

Speaker 1:
[02:53] I don't know what was going on. Maybe it's my real family. Yeah, it was that Jelly Roll show.

Speaker 2:
[02:58] Lainey's. Jelly Roll was there though. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[03:02] And you were on it too.

Speaker 2:
[03:03] I walked out there.

Speaker 1:
[03:05] You sang.

Speaker 2:
[03:06] Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[03:07] You guys did a great job. It was awesome.

Speaker 2:
[03:08] That was cool.

Speaker 1:
[03:08] Yeah, it was cool.

Speaker 2:
[03:09] She's so good.

Speaker 1:
[03:10] Yeah, she is just really, and she like kind of embraced, I think some people get to certain points in their career where they kind of embrace being this like thing that's bigger than them. And I think she like, she's done that kind of.

Speaker 2:
[03:26] Yeah. She's so good at giving her all, all the time.

Speaker 1:
[03:29] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[03:30] I feel like I have to have time away, like recluse time. And if I don't get that, then I'm like an insane person, even more than usual, really.

Speaker 1:
[03:40] That's how I am.

Speaker 2:
[03:40] Yeah. But Lainey, dude, she just goes and goes and goes. Like even after the CMA Awards, we went to her bar afterwards. Here she is in her last outfit, her camo outfit, you know, like the cape, the badass thing she had on.

Speaker 1:
[03:53] I haven't seen that. Bring up that camo. She's in a damn camo cape.

Speaker 2:
[03:56] Yeah. It was really good. I love that outfit. But she's then, she's in there shaking everyone's hand, you know, meeting everyone. She's just hosted the awards by herself and running around and...

Speaker 1:
[04:06] Yeah. She just goes. She looks like a nice, beautiful duck blind, I feel like.

Speaker 2:
[04:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[04:14] I mean, I bet a lot of fellas would show up to want to hunt from that, I think. But anyway, she's also married, I think. But anyway, sorry. What are we talking about? Yeah, almost. OK, let me think about where we should start from. Sorry.

Speaker 2:
[04:27] Did you grow up in church?

Speaker 1:
[04:29] I did. I don't think it was like the best church or whatever, though.

Speaker 2:
[04:32] What con? What denomination?

Speaker 1:
[04:34] It was like six, I think maybe six Baptists or something. I'm not even sure. It was like.

Speaker 2:
[04:39] Six Baptists?

Speaker 1:
[04:40] It was like one of the. It was not. It was like.

Speaker 2:
[04:44] One of them.

Speaker 1:
[04:44] It was. Yeah. It was pretty. It was wild.

Speaker 2:
[04:47] Yeah. No, I grew up with Southern Baptists.

Speaker 1:
[04:49] You did?

Speaker 2:
[04:49] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[04:50] Oh, gosh.

Speaker 2:
[04:51] Really, really small church. It started in a barn. The house that I also grew up in, my dad grew up in, and there was an old barn across the street, and it started in hay bales on that barn. Then they moved it to a church. I mean, every Sunday and Wednesday. I was 18 years old, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[05:08] Was it a big part of your social life, too?

Speaker 2:
[05:10] Yeah, yeah. I was homeschooled for some years, so pretty much all we did was go to church.

Speaker 1:
[05:15] No, and what state were you homeschooled in? Alabama?

Speaker 2:
[05:17] Yeah, South Alabama. Montgomery.

Speaker 1:
[05:20] That's one place I don't know if I would accept homeschooling in, to be honest.

Speaker 2:
[05:23] We didn't do much school, you know. We just played outside.

Speaker 1:
[05:28] Oh, yeah, but that's sometimes the best school.

Speaker 2:
[05:30] It really was.

Speaker 1:
[05:31] Oh.

Speaker 2:
[05:32] I feel like my imagination got to live longer than most.

Speaker 1:
[05:36] Yeah, that's a good point, because you kind of take kids and you put them in like this way. It's almost like being in a laboratory at a school. Like you're sitting under them, there's lights or whatever. Some kids eating paste or whatever, and you're supposed to like not say something.

Speaker 2:
[05:47] Yeah, I got in trouble a lot. I went to kindergarten in first grade and I was always in trouble.

Speaker 1:
[05:51] Like what was the crime you were guilty of?

Speaker 2:
[05:53] Talking, distracting others.

Speaker 1:
[05:56] Yeah, dude. Bro, how great was that in school when you got back on your thing? Distracting others.

Speaker 2:
[06:02] Distracting others. I had like a designated seat in the corner. It was like this little green metal desk and it was facing the corner. I just like sit over there. I know.

Speaker 1:
[06:14] Distracting others. And what do you think you were distracted from probably?

Speaker 2:
[06:16] I don't know. Anything. Just talking.

Speaker 1:
[06:19] And were you trying to get people to see you, you think, or you were just you had something to say? What was going on there, Ella Langley?

Speaker 2:
[06:25] I just think that school was boring for me. I did not like that. I did not like it at all. The whole time. Naps. Hated it. What do you mean, you have to sit still for this long?

Speaker 1:
[06:35] We had this lady named Miss Robin. She kind of had hair like yours a little bit. And she would, on nap time, when everybody's asleep, she'd come over and kind of kick me a little bit. And she let me go out with her and watch her smoke cigarettes and shit.

Speaker 2:
[06:46] So, I mean, she's pretty good.

Speaker 1:
[06:48] She was cool. And her husband was apparently, he had some domestic charges or whatever. But anyway, she let me spend time with her and watch her smoke.

Speaker 2:
[06:55] She probably needed it.

Speaker 1:
[06:57] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[06:57] Like you're a confidant at a young age.

Speaker 1:
[06:59] Yeah, I was just sitting there.

Speaker 2:
[07:00] That makes sense.

Speaker 1:
[07:01] Just leaning on this tire of this car.

Speaker 2:
[07:03] Life lessons as a lady, you know, and you're like, well, you know, what I would do is like.

Speaker 1:
[07:06] Yeah, Carl is a piece of shit, you know, just helping her out. But she would smoke. And she had this kind of like this kind of country, you know, when they get that feathered, real country feathered look, you know, when it has a lot of feathers, yeah, a lot of feathers going on, just a damn mallard of a woman, you know. Yeah. But I remember that. That was a good time. I remember. But yeah, when you got distracting, others was just like, gosh.

Speaker 2:
[07:33] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[07:34] And you were guilty of it, too.

Speaker 2:
[07:36] Yeah. Yeah. I had a bunch of eye surgeries when I when I was young. And so like for the muscles in my eyes.

Speaker 1:
[07:43] And what happened? You had bad eye muscles?

Speaker 2:
[07:45] Yeah. Sometimes I just be a little cross-eyed.

Speaker 3:
[07:49] Oh, God.

Speaker 2:
[07:50] You know, well, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[07:51] And you were in the choir, too? Was you just that cross-eyed girl to singing in the choir?

Speaker 2:
[07:54] Everywhere I was. Yeah. Everyone was singing my heart out. But then I had some surgeries and then teachers like she just is not paying attention in here. So homeschooled until sixth grade and then seventh grade went back to the same high school my dad went to. Graduated with 32 kids.

Speaker 1:
[08:10] But how could you pay attention if your eyes weren't even teeming like buddies or whatever?

Speaker 2:
[08:15] No, the doctor described it to me. I just had another one like two, maybe three years ago. And it's kind of brutal, honestly, like they have to take your eyeballs out.

Speaker 1:
[08:25] You're lying.

Speaker 2:
[08:25] I swear. My God. It's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[08:29] And they go inside?

Speaker 2:
[08:30] Yeah, get in there.

Speaker 1:
[08:31] What's it called?

Speaker 2:
[08:32] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[08:33] Damn.

Speaker 2:
[08:34] I just called it eye surgeries.

Speaker 1:
[08:36] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[08:37] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[08:38] Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2:
[08:39] But she described it to me like a horse and carriage, you know, and you have two horses and one can't be going this way and one can't be going this way. That is not going to work, you know, so they got to learn to work together. And mine just never did.

Speaker 1:
[08:53] And now you got them trusty steeds in your face, huh?

Speaker 2:
[08:55] Yeah, sometimes they slip up, but it's all right. That's just good character.

Speaker 1:
[08:58] You can just go like that.

Speaker 2:
[08:59] Yeah, yeah. I just look at everybody like this, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[09:02] Yeah, get them in line.

Speaker 2:
[09:04] Keep winking a lot.

Speaker 1:
[09:04] Yeah, that's wild. Did y'all have school dances at it? Well, I guess you've used homeschool, but once you went to your dad's school, the same school he went to, did you guys have dances at school?

Speaker 2:
[09:14] Yeah, it was like normal school.

Speaker 1:
[09:15] Did y'all have like Sadie Hawkins and stuff like that? That was like kind of southern style or what was the?

Speaker 2:
[09:19] No, it wasn't like a rich private school. Like this is out in the country. Well, Sadie Hawkins, I guess.

Speaker 1:
[09:27] You had to buy a t-shirt for some, like the girl had to ask-

Speaker 2:
[09:30] Just like a homecoming dance?

Speaker 1:
[09:31] No, the girl had to ask the guy and he had to get him a shirt that matched. You had to do matching shirts or whatever. You didn't have it? But if y'all had a dance, what did y'all do with only that many students in the class?

Speaker 2:
[09:44] I would just dance, I don't know. I would just dance around. Usually, we didn't stay that long. We'd go to a bonfire or something afterwards.

Speaker 1:
[09:51] But was it hard to date in a school that small? Was it hard to follow? What was the energy like that?

Speaker 2:
[09:56] You've known all these people your whole life. You know what they're driving, you know what their parents drive. I mean, you know how it is. That's why I really, this town and this job is very similar to a small town. You get used to, like I kind of look at the fame thing like that now, you know? Because when you're in a small town, like, I would hear shit about me all the time. I'm like, I did what? You know?

Speaker 1:
[10:22] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[10:23] And I don't know, you just get used to that.

Speaker 1:
[10:25] So do you think not being from Nashville is better coming into this kind of place? Like is it, does it, when you get here, does it get so like, is like the music scene, for lack of a better term, is it more like, is it so some type of way? If you're from Nashville, do you think it feels different?

Speaker 2:
[10:46] Probably. I mean, Ernie's from Nashville. I mean, and he's been here the whole time.

Speaker 1:
[10:52] But I'm, I guess I was like, does he feel like more of a pressure or more of a responsive? But I'm wondering, I guess I just wonder if anything is different. Like if you come from an outside group, does it feel tougher? Does it feel easier maybe? Or do you?

Speaker 2:
[11:01] I think people probably in your town that you're from, look at you a little crazier. I'm like 16 years old playing in weddings, 18 years old. I went to Auburn for two years, university. But I was playing shows the whole time.

Speaker 1:
[11:18] Was that your first shows down there?

Speaker 2:
[11:21] No, actually my first show was at this tiny little bar called Bezlo's. It's this lake in Alabama. It's called Lake Martin. But there's all these little-

Speaker 1:
[11:29] Dude, I've been on Lake Martin. Bring up Lake Martin, dude. I can't even believe you said Lake Martin.

Speaker 2:
[11:33] Yeah, this is the lake I grew up going to every summer. It's one of the, actually, the biggest man-made lakes, I believe, in the- I want to say the world. It's not the world, but it's, I think, North America at least.

Speaker 1:
[11:48] It could be the world. If you're from Alabama, that is the damn world.

Speaker 2:
[11:50] Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[11:52] I remember when going to Florida, it would seem like it was like, God, somebody had went to damn, like, they'd done it. Like, if somebody had come back from summertime and they'd gone to Florida, they had just done it. They had won the world.

Speaker 2:
[12:04] Big time.

Speaker 1:
[12:04] Yes. Or they had a shirt on that said Florida or hard rock.

Speaker 2:
[12:08] One of those-

Speaker 1:
[12:09] Hard rock destiny or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[12:10] The painted ones, whatever they do with the little air gun. What is it?

Speaker 1:
[12:13] Yeah, that shit.

Speaker 2:
[12:14] An airbrush.

Speaker 1:
[12:14] Yeah. Ricky's in destiny or whatever, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[12:17] Sick sunglasses.

Speaker 1:
[12:19] God, and just a fist jumping across the back or something.

Speaker 2:
[12:21] Everyone has like a tan line from the weird little band. Pulls your hair the whole time.

Speaker 1:
[12:26] God. Lake Martin in Alabama is considered the world's largest manmade lake. Wow. Upon its completion in 1926. Created by the Martin Dam on the Talapusa River. It covers approximately 40,000 to 44,000 acres. Yeah, I had a girlfriend when I was a child and we went out there. And her family had a lake house out there and we'd go out there, do like a, what's it called when you're kind of like behind...

Speaker 2:
[12:49] Jet skis?

Speaker 1:
[12:50] No, no, when you're behind the... You're like on the board and you're like behind the...

Speaker 2:
[12:54] Oh, a knee boarding?

Speaker 1:
[12:55] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[12:56] A leg boarding?

Speaker 1:
[12:56] Knee boarding, leg boarding, all of it.

Speaker 2:
[12:58] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[12:59] Full body boarding.

Speaker 2:
[12:59] Foot boarding.

Speaker 1:
[13:00] Foot boarding. Yeah, just boarding. I mean, you'd see somebody out there on a fucking piece of plywood out there just managing that bitch along the wake. It was beautiful out there.

Speaker 2:
[13:10] Yeah, that's what we did all summer.

Speaker 1:
[13:12] Yeah, I loved it. And Lake Life is different, dude. Strange shit happens out there.

Speaker 2:
[13:17] Especially Lake Life in the country.

Speaker 3:
[13:18] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[13:19] There's some real perverts out there, too, I will say that. Some damp perverts or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[13:25] Yeah. Rednecks everywhere.

Speaker 1:
[13:28] Yeah. Easter just happened. Did you guys, do y'all do eggs for Easter?

Speaker 2:
[13:34] Deviled eggs.

Speaker 1:
[13:35] Really?

Speaker 2:
[13:35] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[13:36] Y'all never painted eggs rolling up?

Speaker 2:
[13:37] No, yeah, of course we did. Died them, painted them.

Speaker 1:
[13:39] With that little kid or whatever?

Speaker 2:
[13:41] Yeah, so fun.

Speaker 1:
[13:42] Yeah, dude, that was really nice.

Speaker 2:
[13:43] But what do you do with them afterwards?

Speaker 1:
[13:45] I don't know. I think your grandpa would eat them or something. A lot of times we would drop them at like a senior center or something. Because regular people were not having like hard boiled eggs. That was more like a senior dessert kind of, or senior delicacy, I think.

Speaker 2:
[13:59] Deviled eggs are amazing. Do you like them?

Speaker 1:
[14:01] I've had them once or twice, but I haven't really had them when I cared, I think.

Speaker 2:
[14:07] They had a rule at church that you could only have two deviled eggs on your first go, because people would fight over them, they really would. We'd have potluck every Wednesday, so like best southern food, you can think of like all these old women in there, just cobblers and casseroles.

Speaker 1:
[14:22] Were people gambling at the, did they have that kind of thing too? Sometimes there's like a potluck where they gamble at a church for fun reason.

Speaker 2:
[14:28] No, they try not to gamble, that's the thing.

Speaker 1:
[14:30] Oh, exactly.

Speaker 2:
[14:31] Southern Rebs, they try.

Speaker 1:
[14:33] Dude, the church bus, yeah, I don't know what was going on with it. I do remember the church bus, they had like, it might have been like Seventh Day, Seventh Baptist or Seventh Day Advertis, Advern. And then, but they would put those circus peanuts in wine and the kids could have those during communion. You know those orange circus peanuts that your grandparents had? They would put those.

Speaker 2:
[14:58] Disgusting.

Speaker 1:
[14:59] But they're not, if you soak them in like a religious wine, they're not, they're good, but they're pretty good when you're a kid, you know.

Speaker 2:
[15:10] I've never seen that before.

Speaker 1:
[15:11] Yeah, they would have like a wine glass and you'd get one out of there and that was just for the children.

Speaker 2:
[15:15] Did y'all ever go to judgment houses?

Speaker 1:
[15:17] No, what was it?

Speaker 2:
[15:19] It's like, they do it around Halloween.

Speaker 1:
[15:22] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[15:23] It's like a haunted house.

Speaker 1:
[15:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[15:25] For Christians, I guess. Very scary. Remember our youth group took us. You get in there and it's like this car crash scene. And it's pretty much like convincing you that, yes, convincing you that like, you could die the second you walk out of here. So you better settle up.

Speaker 1:
[15:44] You better get saved.

Speaker 2:
[15:45] You better get saved. And I had already been saved. But going through this affected me so bad that at the end they were like, anyone, if you're not sure, you know, to sit down and talk. It's all like, raise my hand, you know. And I sat down with the guy at the table in the booth and we had the whole conversation. I'll never forget coming home and my dad was laying on the couch watching Titanic. And I said, Dad, I need to talk to you about something. And I was like, I got saved again tonight. And he like, my dad pauses the TV, he's pissed off about something, you know what I mean? He's like, that's how you know. He said, you did what? I was like, Dad, I just got so scared of this thing. He's like, baby, you know. Immediately just like, well, you are kind of a dumbass because you know, that's the whole point of being saved.

Speaker 1:
[16:30] You had to get saved twice.

Speaker 2:
[16:31] Yeah, I was so scared. It was so scary. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[16:35] But you seem like a little bit of that danger baby, you know. You've always seemed like, I mean, I don't know you very well, but to me, you've seemed like kind of like that danger baby. You know, just seem like a dang, like a hell's angel that got, you know, just took over a damn guitar city, you know. Like it just, you know, just got, went haywire in a Gibson store, you know. Or you just seem like that, like yeah, maybe you needed it two times.

Speaker 2:
[17:02] I was maybe fearless, I think, is what it is. I don't know, I'm not afraid of a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[17:08] You feel risky or you feel fearless?

Speaker 2:
[17:11] I definitely take a lot of risks. And I do have a lot of fears, which is funny that I think that, but I think, I don't know, I don't necessarily view myself as the same as, I think everyone views me, which is funny. But yeah, I say fearless would be the word. I don't know. I'm just not afraid to take a chance on something, whatever it wants. If I want to do it, then I just know like I'm going to do it. Even if part of me doesn't want to, like I remember thinking as a kid with this music thing, like, that seems like a lot. I was like, are we sure that's really what we want to do? And it's like, there was this thing inside of me that's like, if you don't do it, you're going to hate your life for your whole entire life. And so I was like, okay, but that still seems like a lot. But I just know when I make my mind up, I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[17:59] It seems like that. I mean, just from an outsider's perspective, you just seem like you know what's going on. Dang it.

Speaker 2:
[18:06] I try to act like it.

Speaker 1:
[18:08] Yeah, but sometimes that's part of it. I think sometimes that's part of life.

Speaker 2:
[18:11] It's really the whole thing.

Speaker 1:
[18:13] Yeah, it's like, sometimes it's like, pretend until the rescue shows up and joins you.

Speaker 2:
[18:17] No one's ever lived life before. Not one person has lived life before, you know? I mean, this is my first attempt at life as a human being, you know what I mean? And so it's yours and everyone else's. And it's funny, just, I think people forget that.

Speaker 1:
[18:32] Yeah, there's never a lot of credit for that. It's never like-

Speaker 2:
[18:34] It's like, is that first go?

Speaker 1:
[18:36] We hold people to a lot of like serious stuff and we're never like, yeah, you know what? It's his first time. It's his first time.

Speaker 2:
[18:44] Oh, maybe he needs a nap.

Speaker 1:
[18:45] Yeah, yeah, dude. And first of all, if they had naps for adults, for everybody, it would all be so nice.

Speaker 2:
[18:54] Yeah, but a nap goes one or two ways for me. I either wake up and I'm like, oh, I'm so glad that I got that. Or I wake up and I'm hell on earth.

Speaker 1:
[19:03] Really?

Speaker 2:
[19:04] Mad, upset, my day's kind of ruined, I don't know. I don't know, I just, I'm like, oh, I just wish I could go back to sleep. It's one of those things you either power through or you don't.

Speaker 1:
[19:12] Well, you just sound damn volatile, Ella.

Speaker 2:
[19:14] I'm not.

Speaker 1:
[19:15] You're not, you sure?

Speaker 2:
[19:16] I think you're the only one saying that.

Speaker 1:
[19:18] I could be sure, you might be right. You might be right. Maybe this is that people have a perception of you that's not exact, you know, or that, I mean, nobody's perception of somebody else is, but, or rarely, but yeah, maybe people have that perception of you. Did, whenever you were first doing shows, did they ever have like some fights at your shows or anything like that? Like, were you in some real honky tonks?

Speaker 2:
[19:37] Yeah, I've played every kind of show you can possibly imagine.

Speaker 1:
[19:40] Same, same.

Speaker 2:
[19:42] Like, I mean, restaurants, weird little wing sports bar things. Funeral? Oh yeah, funerals, so many funerals. Weddings, I started out with weddings. It was my first gig ever. Who would ever hire a 15-year-old to play while you're walking down the aisle? I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[20:01] If they're decent, maybe, or if they're cheap.

Speaker 2:
[20:03] I don't know, yeah, well, 200 bucks, maybe. And I was like, I am rich.

Speaker 1:
[20:08] Decent and cheap, that'd be my first album if I ever had one.

Speaker 2:
[20:12] But I don't know. It was always just.

Speaker 1:
[20:15] But do they have fights in here? They ever have a good, you ever see a good?

Speaker 2:
[20:18] All the time.

Speaker 1:
[20:19] Yeah?

Speaker 2:
[20:19] Yeah. I watched one guy get arrested in Tuscaloosa selling coke right in front of me on the floor, and here I am just still playing, you know?

Speaker 1:
[20:26] No way.

Speaker 2:
[20:27] Yeah. Random. I played a lot at the Floor of Ammo.

Speaker 1:
[20:30] You're choosing prison, I can tell, huh?

Speaker 2:
[20:32] Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1:
[20:33] That's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[20:34] I played, one of my last gigs I played, I fell through the stage, like my last cover gigs. I did that for a while. And I did every like.

Speaker 1:
[20:42] What, like a finishing act or something? Was it like a finishing, like?

Speaker 2:
[20:46] No, I just there, the stage was terrible. It was low budget.

Speaker 1:
[20:50] Oh, you just on some bad wood or something, huh?

Speaker 2:
[20:52] Yeah, just the, they put a rug over it thinking if she can't see this hole there.

Speaker 1:
[20:55] Oh, God.

Speaker 2:
[20:56] You know?

Speaker 1:
[20:57] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[20:58] But yeah, I played pretty much any and everything.

Speaker 1:
[21:02] And what is this? Oh, that's you right there?

Speaker 2:
[21:05] Oh, wow. Yeah, it is, I guess. Oh, that's at my family reunion. I think I was like five, four or five.

Speaker 1:
[21:12] Is that on Lake Martin?

Speaker 2:
[21:14] No, that's in Brantley, Alabama. That's way out in the country. Funny about this is when we, I remember my, when we pulled up here and my dad was like, we got the family reunion down here at the whale, a buried whale out here. And as a kid, I was like, a buried whale? Why would they bury a whale all the way out here?

Speaker 1:
[21:32] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[21:33] And, you know, it, I asked my dad about that. He said, I was saying whale, whale.

Speaker 1:
[21:40] A buried whale out there. Dude, yeah, I remember I used to have to clean out wishing wells in our area. They had this thing where they was trying to do, like, I guess, make money for the area or something, or like get a tourist thing. And so they had, they installed like a lot of wishing wells and stuff, and I got a job when some were cleaning them out. So you'd get down there and have to get down in them, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[22:03] I've never seen that happen.

Speaker 1:
[22:04] Yeah, yeah, somebody gets in there. And I had very small kind of lean wrists and everything at the time. I said, let me get down in there. And you'd bring up all the stuff and like put it on the side. And you got to keep some of the change. But then some of it you had to give to the city. But you find a lot of people, a lot of just throw a lot of junk down the recyclables, kind of a lot of to go orders, to go barbecue, kind of seem like anyway.

Speaker 2:
[22:27] You got to keep some of the change?

Speaker 1:
[22:28] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[22:29] You just got to pick out which ones you kept?

Speaker 1:
[22:31] No, they kind of, you gave it to them. And then they kind of gave you some back.

Speaker 2:
[22:36] All right, well, that's kind of nice. That's a good gig, I guess.

Speaker 1:
[22:38] I liked it. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. And I found a sword in there too. I don't want to say.

Speaker 2:
[22:44] What?

Speaker 1:
[22:44] Yeah. I found like a, I think it was a-

Speaker 2:
[22:46] What kind of sword?

Speaker 1:
[22:47] I think it was a dang. I don't want to say like a murder weapon or something, but I think it was a-

Speaker 2:
[22:51] A murder weapon sword.

Speaker 1:
[22:53] I think it was a weapon. It looked like it had been used.

Speaker 2:
[22:56] Can you imagine you murder someone and then you throw it, your place to throw it in is a wishing well?

Speaker 1:
[23:00] Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2:
[23:01] What?

Speaker 1:
[23:01] I wish I hadn't killed them, maybe. Just throw that bastard in there.

Speaker 2:
[23:04] Hit the reverse on that.

Speaker 1:
[23:06] Well, I think that's how wishing wells got their name. It's like you dropped your money in a hole and you just wish you hadn't, probably.

Speaker 2:
[23:13] Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[25:49] Nope.

Speaker 1:
[25:49] Anybody ever try you from the audience or anything like that?

Speaker 2:
[25:52] No. Lot of drunks just, you know, spilling their drinks all over the place, bumping into my microphone stand. I've had that happen a lot. Oh, that's the worst. When I hit the end of it, it just pops you right in the mouth.

Speaker 1:
[26:03] Oh yeah, cause you're not really expecting that?

Speaker 2:
[26:04] Well, they're just so close to the stage and you're playing college bars.

Speaker 1:
[26:07] Yeah. So a lot of college activity over there. And was your family an Auburn fan growing up then?

Speaker 2:
[26:13] Yeah. My mom's from Michigan, like I said. So she just kind of never really cared about that stuff. My dad was an Auburn fan, but yeah. That's kind of our football thing. It's Alabama or Auburn. There's no NFL team in Alabama.

Speaker 1:
[26:27] And does your folks, your folks are still together?

Speaker 2:
[26:31] Yeah. Yes, they are.

Speaker 1:
[26:32] And do you think like, what makes you laugh about that?

Speaker 2:
[26:37] It's been a wild ride, but I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[26:40] But they haven't given up.

Speaker 2:
[26:42] Nope. Perseverance.

Speaker 1:
[26:43] Pretty cool.

Speaker 2:
[26:44] It is really cool. It's really cool to see how they are now. Because I think there were a lot of years we were all like, y'all sure you like each other, you know? Yeah. But they did. They really stuck it out. God.

Speaker 1:
[26:59] Was there like a time when your parents were like, that they always say like, oh well, we knew when this happened that she was going to be a, do they have that kind of thing, you know? We're like, we knew when she, you know?

Speaker 2:
[27:10] My grandparents on my dad's side pretty much raised me at their house. I lived over there. They, my grandpa could play anything by ear. They were a lot older. My grandma was 45 when she had my dad.

Speaker 1:
[27:23] Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:
[27:24] Yeah. But I was like the first girl in the family, and I started to match pitch with her as a baby. So she figured out I could sing, and she's just like singing was her thing. My grandpa could, like I said, play any instrument by ear. So at their house, that's all we did.

Speaker 1:
[27:40] Use a little baby bird.

Speaker 2:
[27:41] Oh, yeah. That's all we did. They were like, this is what she's going to do. So yeah, that's my grandpa right there.

Speaker 1:
[27:47] They just put you out on the windowsill out there.

Speaker 2:
[27:49] I sang at church a lot. I learned how to read from singing hymnals. But yeah, I mean, all I did, and I really just, the whole time, like my whole family, we all just were like, this is what she's going to do.

Speaker 1:
[28:02] They just knew it.

Speaker 2:
[28:03] The whole time.

Speaker 1:
[28:04] Was there a scary point for you, like when you kind of like got a little bit spooked? I remember whenever I met you, one thing I do remember you saying is that I just knew that this is what I was doing, right? I was so determined. And I've talked to like Trey Lewis. I know you and him are friends and he mentioned that, right? Whenever I ran into him one night, we were watching your show at the knitting, knitting factory, maybe some place. I can't remember, it might have been the Bluebird or Threes.

Speaker 2:
[28:32] I don't know. I'm terrible at remembering these.

Speaker 1:
[28:33] It was a musical place. And he said she just always been so determined, right? Was there a part, though, when you, like, even your own determination came up against, like, this just feels like it's gonna be tougher than I thought, or I don't know if this is the way, or did it never get to that point for you?

Speaker 2:
[28:55] I think I always knew it was gonna be tough. I mean, how many people moved to this town in a day to do this job? I don't know. There's just, it's scary all the time because I love it. It's truly a part of who I am. Like, my whole life I've done it, and wanted to do it, and thought about it every day. Like, daydreamed every time I'm in the car. I mean, hours and hours alone driving from gigs.

Speaker 1:
[29:19] Like, dreaming about what?

Speaker 2:
[29:20] Just doing this, literally doing what I'm doing. Like, playing on stages and writing songs, and getting to do this craft for a living, you know? And I just feel like not everything always works out for me in my life. And so I like to leave, like, very little room for error, you know? And so I think, like, just keeping my head down, and I'm definitely my toughest critic, you know? Like, when I watch something, I'm never like, oh yeah, I crushed that. Never, ever, very rarely do I walk off stage, and I'm like, I was amazing out there. I'm always just like, dude, I was, what was that shit that I just said? That was so, what the fuck is wrong with me? Like, why would I say that?

Speaker 1:
[30:00] Well, it must be crazy, because you seem like such a, like, a, like kind of, like almost say you'll say whatever. You kind of save your...

Speaker 2:
[30:08] I do. That's the thing.

Speaker 1:
[30:09] And then to be such a tough critic of that person is a, that's a lot of, that's a lot of extra stress, it feels like.

Speaker 2:
[30:15] Yeah, yeah. I'm getting better at it for sure.

Speaker 1:
[30:17] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[30:17] It's weird, and I'm sure you understand this, like looking at yourself through the eyes of others, like no one should know this many thoughts about themselves. Like when everyone's like, what superpower do you want? I never understood when people were like, I want to be able to read minds. I'm like, fuck that, I do not want to know what somebody's thinking.

Speaker 1:
[30:35] Because half these people, I wouldn't either, dude, especially if you're at like some place and everybody's just a damn pervert or something, you know? And that would be most of it.

Speaker 2:
[30:43] Oh, no way, man, no way.

Speaker 1:
[30:44] Even if you're at like, even if you're just at a dang Golden Corral, no matter where you are, everybody is like, I bet you would remind you like, My dad loves a Golden Corral or a Shoney's. Dude, my stepdad, he was in one of the wars. And he would, dude, after they would go to like the Golden Corral, whatever it was, like Chinese Corral or something, or like the Yellow Bin or whatever it was called, he would sit, he would sit my mom in the car and then he would go back in and apologize for fighting these, who we thought were like the same ethnicity people when he was in like Iwo Jima or something like that.

Speaker 2:
[31:23] He'd go back in and apologize every time.

Speaker 1:
[31:25] Yeah. He would go back in and just kind of say, you know, give his peace, you know? And it was like this moment that he kind of had, you know, where, and I think it's probably like that for some people. That's like, they probably went and fought in a war and then the only people they ever saw from that culture again, was that like a, if a small restaurant popped up in their town 40 years later, that's got to be crazy.

Speaker 2:
[31:47] Yeah, they all, I don't know, I can't imagine that. I'm very interested in that. One of my favorite things to read about is historical fiction.

Speaker 1:
[31:55] Yeah? You watch over any of those war movies?

Speaker 2:
[31:59] Yeah, my dad loves a war movie, Jarheads. I don't know how many times that's been on in our living room.

Speaker 1:
[32:03] Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude, my uncle even has the soundtrack to Jarheads. I'm like, who has the soundtrack to this shit?

Speaker 2:
[32:09] On CD or what?

Speaker 1:
[32:10] I think it might be, he said it was Blu-ray. He went like, he went all in on Blu-ray.

Speaker 2:
[32:16] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:16] And he lost a lot. Yeah. But yeah, dude, I like some of those war movies. I think because they just make you feel something, you know?

Speaker 2:
[32:24] Yeah, feels like you're learning a little.

Speaker 1:
[32:26] Feels like you're learning a little, but also, yeah. And it makes you feel something. I like something if there's, I'll say this, if there's a little bit of loss in something, I like that shit.

Speaker 2:
[32:36] Yeah, keeps your attention.

Speaker 1:
[32:37] I like something that's got a little bit of loss in it. Some of your music, and probably a decent amount of it, to me, seems like it's like about, kind of like, wanting love or hoping for love, but not, like, kind of being able to make it work, or, I'm trying to think what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2:
[33:02] I think you're doing great. Those are good questions so far.

Speaker 1:
[33:04] They are?

Speaker 2:
[33:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[33:05] Thanks, dude.

Speaker 2:
[33:06] Yeah, I think I just get, They're really good.

Speaker 1:
[33:08] Sometimes I get worried or not, I don't know. I mean, I get nervous.

Speaker 2:
[33:11] I was so nervous before I came in here today.

Speaker 1:
[33:13] Were you?

Speaker 2:
[33:14] So nervous, yes. Why?

Speaker 1:
[33:15] What do you mean? You're the most confident person there is.

Speaker 2:
[33:17] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[33:20] You are, you know.

Speaker 2:
[33:21] Well, I mean, you got to put on the suit.

Speaker 1:
[33:24] That's true. And the rest of you will show up?

Speaker 2:
[33:26] That's something that I told you I learned in Southern Baptist in a small town is you learn to put on a face a little bit, you know what I mean? You can't let everyone know everything that's going on all the time. But also it's like, I run out of the ability to do that, so.

Speaker 1:
[33:41] We get burnt out of it.

Speaker 2:
[33:42] Yeah, and I just, that's been something I've had to work really hard on is the mental of this game. And I knew the whole time that would be the toughest thing for me.

Speaker 1:
[33:51] Really?

Speaker 2:
[33:51] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[33:52] Well you can't pin yourself to the way somebody else operates, that's something that I've done over the years. Like, if they can do it, I can do it. I'm not the same person as them, right? And our paths aren't the same. And I mean, I've floored it for 200 miles when I had nothing in the tank.

Speaker 2:
[34:10] Well I think it's because you are similar in the way we're like, you kind of fly through life by the seat of your pants, you know what I mean? And it's like, you're just following your gut on what you should do with your life. And instead of like, you know, if you go to school to be a doctor, like you know you do this many years of school to go and you're gonna do this. And it's like, we have no idea how this is gonna, every single day is different, every single day something could happen and that could change our lives for the best or the worst and you just never know. And so I think like you learn this skill to watch others in the way where you learn. And I think in the beginning it pushed me. I would always like compare my work ethic to, Lainey was a great one for me. But I don't know how she's superhuman. I don't know how she does what she does. But yeah, I'm different than that. You know, like I have to go be in my house and recharge, recharge, rest. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[35:09] Take time. Same. I got to do, I mean, I'm getting dang IVs. I'm petting animals for peace or whatever. They have this.

Speaker 2:
[35:16] Yeah, IVs are good.

Speaker 1:
[35:17] They got a peace petting place that's out there. And you go pet those horses for peace or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[35:21] I just got some horses.

Speaker 1:
[35:22] Did you?

Speaker 2:
[35:23] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[35:23] God, I'm thinking about getting a Doberman. It's big, but yeah, it's nothing like that.

Speaker 2:
[35:28] It'd be crazy if you came in riding a Doberman. It was big enough to do that. It's just like you found Clifford, but he's a Doberman this time.

Speaker 1:
[35:34] And Ernest is on the other one, dude.

Speaker 2:
[35:36] Yeah, yeah, but he's actually on Clifford.

Speaker 1:
[35:38] Yeah, and he's dressed like...

Speaker 2:
[35:40] He has his grill in for sure.

Speaker 1:
[35:44] There's like a hundred shades of Ernest. That's the craze. And there's nobody who is such a chameleon, I think, in humanity as Ernest, you know? What a guy. Oh, my question. So I feel like a lot of your songs are about wanting to like find a love or connect with love, but also like about like wanting independence, you know? Do you feel like you have like commitment issues when it comes to that kind of stuff? Or do you feel like some of your songs stem from that sort of thing? Or like, do you find like a root, like a common like root for some of your purpose in your music?

Speaker 2:
[36:23] You know, I think that's the thing that sometimes people think about too much, honestly. Where it's like, what is the purpose to everything? What is the finished product? I don't know, I'm only 26.

Speaker 1:
[36:36] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[36:36] It's like, I'm just writing about, I'm not going in the room thinking, okay, I need an up-tempo song today, and I need it to be perfect for radio, or I need to write this type of acoustic thing, you know? Like, I'm going in there and just writing songs, like whatever comes out that day comes out, you know? And I'm really big on not forcing, not forcing, you know? Just if I feel like I'm in there and I'm not having fun, I'm like, why are we doing this? I've somehow got to do the job I've always wanted to do. No way I'm not going to let it be fun when we're sitting in here writing these songs, you know? So yeah, I don't know, just sometimes like, I'll have a title that I really want to write, or someone in the room will say something, and then it's just like, if all of you click on that title, like you got to chase it. So yeah, I mean, and obviously, I mean, me being 26 and not married, like I've been dating, you know? I've been trying to figure that portion of my life out too.

Speaker 1:
[37:33] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[37:33] Which is complicated when you have pretty much given your everything to this one thing, you know?

Speaker 1:
[37:43] Oh yeah. I mean, that's yeah. I can relate to that. I spent so much time working that yeah, it's like, this was my first love. I liked to work the most and because work was reliable, it's like, I knew what I got in. What I put into this, I'm going to get out of this one way or the other. And I'll know if it's fair or not. I'll know if it's a fair amount because I'll know how much I put in that part of myself. I can't lie to. So it's like, I'll know. And it's an even. It'll be even. It may not be exactly what I want, but it'll be, it will be fair.

Speaker 2:
[38:16] But you know, you gave it your all.

Speaker 1:
[38:17] Yes. And to me, I know. I know. And so I know I will expect a certain return. And there's not somebody else there that like, when it's a human, for me, it's like, that's just too... It's like whenever you first learn to ride that bike and you're doing that or whatever. You know what I'm saying? And then you forget that like the, you're like turning the handlebars like this. You think they're the pedals and you just hit them.

Speaker 2:
[38:39] If this starts happening, you're going down. You're going down. That's the scariest feeling ever.

Speaker 1:
[38:44] The worst, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[38:45] Oh, so many scars from asphalt.

Speaker 1:
[38:47] And then you hit the neighbor's gate or whatever and somebody just called you like a queer, yelled something like that or something, you know?

Speaker 2:
[38:53] That's the worst I hate when that happens.

Speaker 1:
[38:55] Yeah, and it's your dad driving by.

Speaker 2:
[38:56] It's definitely your dad. Definitely my dad.

Speaker 1:
[39:00] And you haven't even seen him in like two years and you're like, this is how he shows up. Yeah. But yeah, that's something I think about knowing what you're gonna, like what you put in and what you're gonna get out. Do you feel like, because now you've kind of hit this level of popularity that's a little bit different and that's kind of scary, right?

Speaker 2:
[39:19] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[39:20] I mean, it's cool. There's a lot of great things. But that, to me, that feels interesting because you kind of like, you almost can't put it back in the tube in a way. It's like, you know, like you can't like, once you kind of cross over a certain threshold of like people knowing you, you kind of can't like, you know, your life can change and maybe, you know, people come and go in popularity. But you kind of can't go back to not being someone that was known.

Speaker 2:
[39:51] I think that's another one of the hardest parts for me. And it's I think it's just people treating you differently. Yeah, I just it's weird when somebody comes up and they're just like. It makes sense to me because if I were to see Stevie Nicks in the grocery store, like I would be a little like, you know.

Speaker 3:
[40:10] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[40:11] But it's weird when it's yourself, you know, like someone's come up to you and they're like, oh my god, I'm going to throw up on your shoes. You're like, whoa, like, I am so weird, like just, you know, immediately try to like level myself in a way. But yeah, that's an odd part. But it is cool. I'm starting to I'm getting past the stage of like, what like, because it was so in the beginning, so new, like, it was weird when somebody knew who I was or when I'm sitting at the table out to eat with friends or family and somebody's like, hey, can I get seven selfies with you? And I'm like, have like a half a meatball in my mouth? I'm like, bro, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[40:48] Or you haven't even washed up or you just don't even feel like a certain way?

Speaker 2:
[40:51] In the bathroom, have you ever had one that asks you, is someone in the bathroom? You're like, bro, no, no. And then if you say no, I've had a girl, I was making my whole band do this ab workout routine, we were in P Fitness somewhere around the world. And this girl comes up to me, mid-crunch, she's like, can I have a picture? And then I like, it was in the beginning and now I would be like, probably not right now. I'll sign whatever, you know what I mean? Just pick better time.

Speaker 1:
[41:17] Oh yeah, in the wedding you'll give it all, you'll give abs.

Speaker 2:
[41:20] But then I get up to take the picture with her and she's just like, no, no, I just want to take one of you. You ever get that when they're like, I want to take one of you and sit with you. And you're like, no, no, no, if I'm sweaty in this, you are too.

Speaker 1:
[41:30] Yeah, so you're just what? Some kind of pervert or whatever, or you're just making a time capsule or something. You don't say, you're just capturing me to keep me.

Speaker 2:
[41:36] No, I just want to take one of you.

Speaker 1:
[41:38] Yeah, I'm not doing all that.

Speaker 2:
[41:39] What's your pose if someone will take one of you?

Speaker 1:
[41:42] I'll tell you a funny story. I can't, oh, I'll tell them no. If somebody's like, I just want to take one of you.

Speaker 2:
[41:47] Yeah, you're like, no.

Speaker 1:
[41:48] I'm like, you get over here, you little urch, and you're getting in this bitch with me. If I have to stand here and look like shit, you do too.

Speaker 2:
[41:54] That's what I said.

Speaker 1:
[41:54] Yeah. Dude, a couple, probably like a year and a half ago, I started to have, like, because we would do meet and greets after every show, and maybe some of this sounds like kind of woe is me, like popularity talk.

Speaker 2:
[42:07] I'm about to relate what you're going to say.

Speaker 1:
[42:10] And I'm not mean in that. I'm grateful that people come out to shows, and I've been to a couple of your shows, and I'm excited to go to more of them. I'm excited to come to that one in Tuscaloosa where you and Morgan are playing together, and then I know of your own tour and your new album that's going to come out. But I couldn't smile anymore. The muscles in my mouth became...

Speaker 2:
[42:35] Oh, yes. You started doing that fidget thing?

Speaker 1:
[42:38] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[42:38] It's terrible.

Speaker 1:
[42:39] And then it got to the point where I just didn't even believe it anymore. My mouth had just... There was some disconnection between my true feelings and a smile, because these were all kind of put on smiles. And some of them are real, but you're just like smile. You know, it is smile, cheese, that type of thing. So, I had to start doing this. So in all my...

Speaker 2:
[43:00] That's how that started?

Speaker 1:
[43:01] Yes. So in all my pictures, I was like, I have to make another face. And this on me, it looks a little too... People are going to get scared. The kids are going to kind of be scared a little bit.

Speaker 2:
[43:11] I think that's kind of nice.

Speaker 1:
[43:13] So I'll do like...

Speaker 2:
[43:16] Just anything?

Speaker 1:
[43:17] Yeah, because this just started...

Speaker 2:
[43:19] Yeah, that, that...

Speaker 1:
[43:21] See?

Speaker 2:
[43:21] Yeah. But just the closed-mouth smile was nice. Well, no, no. That was different. You didn't do it the same that time.

Speaker 1:
[43:29] Let me try one more time.

Speaker 2:
[43:32] Yeah. Well, no.

Speaker 1:
[43:35] Kind of close.

Speaker 2:
[43:35] Try one more time, but don't squint your lips so much. Let them loose. Leave them loose a little. Start from the side, how you came in.

Speaker 1:
[43:42] Well, what's happening? Nothing much.

Speaker 2:
[43:45] Yeah, that right there.

Speaker 1:
[43:47] Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[43:47] Take a picture of that. Practice.

Speaker 1:
[43:50] You're an artist. You're a conductor.

Speaker 2:
[43:52] Well, thank you.

Speaker 1:
[43:52] She's a conductor. Yeah, I remember the first time I saw you. I didn't know as your popularity, really, I guess. The first time that I met you. I remember I said something like, man, Lainey really does such a great job of controlling the stage because I was kind of complimenting her because she really does. I can't remember what you said, but it was something like... I don't know if I said something like...

Speaker 2:
[44:15] No, you were like, you should try running around the stage like that or something. And I was like, first of all, you ain't ever been to a show, so how do you know?

Speaker 1:
[44:25] I know. To show up and be judgmental like that.

Speaker 2:
[44:28] Yeah. And then that, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[44:30] I think I was just nervous and trying to think.

Speaker 2:
[44:31] I kind of move around a little bit. Well, I've thought about that moment multiple times because I'm like, should I move around more? Is that it? Has he seen things that I should do? You should come to rehearsals and let me know?

Speaker 1:
[44:42] I think I was just nervous and I probably didn't know what to say and it was a woman and so I was just trying to say something and maybe it wasn't, yeah, I just didn't do the best supportive job probably. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[44:51] Well, it panned out.

Speaker 1:
[44:53] But yeah, I've seen it since and I'm not even going to weigh in anymore. You're obviously-

Speaker 2:
[44:58] No, I really like it. No, it really made me think extra hard about that. I was like, damn, the only thing is I'm lazy on stage.

Speaker 1:
[45:04] No, I didn't think lazy. I didn't know. I didn't know.

Speaker 2:
[45:08] A little lazy?

Speaker 1:
[45:09] No.

Speaker 2:
[45:11] I don't know how she does it. She does the whole spin thing.

Speaker 1:
[45:13] Now, she does a lot.

Speaker 2:
[45:15] I told you she is superhuman.

Speaker 1:
[45:17] She does a whole like fantasia, almost like that.

Speaker 2:
[45:20] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[45:21] Yeah, she does-

Speaker 2:
[45:21] When she does that spin thing, I would fall down 100%.

Speaker 1:
[45:26] Just swinging that donkey around, I'm like, what is even going on out here? She has got it.

Speaker 2:
[45:33] Yeah. That's probably what it is. I ain't got no balance like that. I mean, I ain't evened out, you know?

Speaker 1:
[45:38] She's got them ballast tanks on her, you know?

Speaker 2:
[45:39] She's like set up to go.

Speaker 1:
[45:40] Oh, she's a pontoon, I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2:
[45:43] She's locked in.

Speaker 1:
[45:44] Yes, she's locked in. But no, what a great person to learn from and be around, and even just to watch the things that she does, and just to notice all those things, like how is she able to engage with people so much? You know? I don't know how Jelly Roll did it. Jelly Roll got burnt out though.

Speaker 2:
[45:57] Jelly Roll is easy the same way.

Speaker 1:
[45:59] But he got burnt out.

Speaker 2:
[46:00] Yeah, I think it happens to everybody.

Speaker 1:
[46:02] It'll get you.

Speaker 2:
[46:03] Yeah, I mean, no one's actually...

Speaker 1:
[46:06] Doing it all.

Speaker 2:
[46:06] Yeah, I mean, everyone gets burnt out.

Speaker 1:
[46:08] Yeah. Did, was there a moment where you kind of had to take it like a step back? You take a vacation? What do you do like for that sort of thing? How have you learned to incorporate that into things? Because you're already back out here. You're going to go on tour again.

Speaker 2:
[46:21] Yeah, I'm still figuring it out. I think my team is figuring out a little better how to schedule in the time that's needed. But when you're in this boom moment, it's hard to say no. I mean, you're saying no to stuff that I'm like, I do kind of want to do that. But it's like, you know, I'm thinking of things six months down the road. I'm like, I'll be able to do that. And then I get there, I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm dying. Why did I do that?

Speaker 1:
[46:46] What am I doing in this lemonade?

Speaker 2:
[46:47] Yeah, but then I'm like, if I turn it down, you know, sometimes I'm like, come on, you can't, what's wrong with you? Why you can't do that? You're going to be, some people would kill to be like that. You know, and then I have that whole thing. So, at last year, it just, like I said, I think the mental game for me is definitely the hardest part of this job. Like I can do the gigs, I can do the shows, I can do that and I don't know, the burnout, I guess.

Speaker 1:
[47:17] Like thinking you can work through it, I'll fight through it, I'll figure it out.

Speaker 2:
[47:20] Yeah, and I mean, Lord, we toured pretty much minus a couple weeks here and there from 2022 to 2025. You know, and I mean, hot and heavy, most of that was in a van, you know, and then one bus and we're all packed on there and it was still like, it just happened so fast. So it's like, we're still doing these things, but these things are happening. And so everyone from the outside is like, man, that's pretty nice. You're like, well, you know, we're still getting there. We're still doing our best. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[47:50] And a van, people don't get even enough credit for even being in a damn van.

Speaker 2:
[47:54] Somebody asked me the other day, they're like, do you miss that? I'm like, hell no, I don't miss that.

Speaker 1:
[47:59] I think people should get a tax credit for being in a damn van, dude.

Speaker 2:
[48:02] We did years of that.

Speaker 1:
[48:03] If I see a van pull up any van and somebody gets out of the back of it, I'll start clapping immediately.

Speaker 2:
[48:09] Immediately.

Speaker 1:
[48:10] I don't care what they're doing. I don't care if they are very religious and that's, you know, and the side door's broken or whatever, or they are just a big family.

Speaker 2:
[48:19] I always wondered what people thought we were traveling around when they'd see us get out at a gas station. And it was just like me, my photographer, Kaylee, and a whole bunch of tattooed guys just crawling out of a van, looking disheveled, smelling like Doritos probably.

Speaker 1:
[48:35] Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:
[48:35] And whiskey.

Speaker 1:
[48:36] Doritos are good at over 50 miles an hour in a damn van.

Speaker 2:
[48:40] I lived off some gas station food for years. Taquitos from the gas station.

Speaker 1:
[48:44] They're good. They're good.

Speaker 2:
[48:46] In the moment.

Speaker 1:
[48:47] Yeah. But some of them, my problem is if you, I'll get a bag and then I'll go get them in the middle of the night and get more of them.

Speaker 2:
[48:54] Yeah. You ever get a crunchy one where it just ruined the whole thing? It's like.

Speaker 1:
[48:58] Uh-uh. The taquitos?

Speaker 2:
[48:59] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[49:00] I like them crunchy.

Speaker 2:
[49:01] Or a hot dog.

Speaker 1:
[49:02] Oh, hot dogs are good, but they're just, sometimes they don't honestly tell you how long they've been on that twirler out there on the little riverboat thing.

Speaker 2:
[49:11] They just put them back out there every so often.

Speaker 1:
[49:14] What is that? They put a bunch of hair curlers together and started just grilling them bitches.

Speaker 2:
[49:17] Who knows what kind of meat is really in these things? That ain't no meat.

Speaker 1:
[49:23] What are you talking about? Dude, this is some, this ain't no meat, bro.

Speaker 2:
[49:28] You don't wonder. I have a lady that's doing all my health stuff. You don't think so? The Buffalo Chicken, you don't think that is?

Speaker 1:
[49:35] I bet there ain't a half percent of meat in there, baby. This is meatless. They should just taste something warm on the outside of it. But, yeah, when you get those Hunt Brothers pizzas, those little slices.

Speaker 2:
[49:46] Oh, the breakfast one?

Speaker 1:
[49:48] Fire.

Speaker 2:
[49:49] That's what I grew up on.

Speaker 1:
[49:50] On Hunt Brothers?

Speaker 2:
[49:51] Yeah. I think it's Hunt Brothers. Is there an S at the end of it?

Speaker 1:
[49:54] Was there more than one? There you go, girl. Hunt Brothers.

Speaker 2:
[49:59] I've been saying it wrong. Hunt Brothers.

Speaker 1:
[50:01] But that's what it is. That's kind of southern stuff.

Speaker 2:
[50:03] That's how they say it.

Speaker 1:
[50:04] Have you seen the Country Hoodlums people? Have you seen those? Instagram? Pull them up, dude, if you can. I put them on a page the other day.

Speaker 2:
[50:13] The what?

Speaker 1:
[50:13] On my links page. This is the kind of place I grew up. I'll show you right here.

Speaker 2:
[50:17] Oh, I can't wait to see this.

Speaker 1:
[50:19] This is like our street.

Speaker 4:
[50:24] What you doing, Christie?

Speaker 3:
[50:25] I'm about to burn his shit.

Speaker 2:
[50:28] I need something volatile that's gonna happen. About my own Facebook life.

Speaker 3:
[50:31] I'm about to hit shit when he was calling me five minutes later.

Speaker 4:
[50:35] Well, Christie, he loves, he loves, Glass loves those, those golf clubs. Glass loved those golf clubs.

Speaker 1:
[50:45] This the kind of shit was going on on our street.

Speaker 4:
[50:48] No, no, you for real? No.

Speaker 2:
[50:52] And you know what he did, probably.

Speaker 4:
[50:53] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[50:55] He done fooled around. And he about to find out.

Speaker 4:
[50:58] Grab it, Willie, grab it.

Speaker 1:
[51:03] That's the kind of shit we need more of, I think. But yeah, this is just the kind of place. Have you ever seen them country hoodlums? Oh, man.

Speaker 2:
[51:11] This is like a whole thing.

Speaker 1:
[51:13] They have probably like two or three hundred clips now. They put up clips every day, and it's just them. It's just like people live in their lives.

Speaker 2:
[51:20] Oh, like it's real life people. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[51:23] And this is the one, Ern. People always say this guy or him and Ern seem like each other. No, go hit that top left one.

Speaker 2:
[51:29] Keep him coming.

Speaker 4:
[51:31] Miss Janet?

Speaker 1:
[51:33] Let's see if Miss Janet knows. He just got baptized, actually.

Speaker 4:
[51:36] Let's do it. Hey, Jean.

Speaker 1:
[51:40] And I'll say this, the women are the people, they hold it together in this group.

Speaker 2:
[51:45] Usually are.

Speaker 1:
[51:46] Yeah. But that's kind of, I feel like that's kind of enough, man.

Speaker 2:
[51:50] I'm not 18 anymore. I'm working, raising two kids, and I have little free time.

Speaker 1:
[51:54] That's why I chose University of Phoenix. I take one class at a time and log in on my schedule.

Speaker 3:
[52:00] University of Phoenix. Built for real life. Get started at phoenix.edu.

Speaker 1:
[52:06] You know, about four years ago, I was jogging somewhere. And it was a pretty good area. It was all right. I don't know. Yeah, there's some couple halfway houses, but I was going for a jog. And I saw a snail out there. And he was trying his best, but you know, they don't even have feet, but they're still going forward. They're, you know. So I picked that snail up and I moved him. I moved him probably 19 inches, brother. Saved him a month of travel. I'd consider that a power move. Just like how hiring Morgan & Morgan is a power move. Morgan & Morgan is America's largest injury law firm. They have over 100 offices nationwide and more than 1000 lawyers with over $30 billion recovered for over 500,000 clients. Morgan & Morgan has a proven track record of fighting to get you full and fair compensation. That's what they do. If you're ever injured, you can check out Morgan & Morgan. Their fee is free unless they win. For more information, go to forthepeople.com/theo or dial pound law, pound 529 from your cell phone. That's forthepeople.com/t-h-e-o or pound law, pound 529. This is a paid advertisement. Did y'all have like a most popular restaurant in your town growing up?

Speaker 2:
[53:42] Not really. I mean, a lot of chains. Like I said, the Shonys, my dad loves like a, what do you call it? A buffet.

Speaker 1:
[53:49] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[53:50] Oh, any buffet, the soft serve ice cream, you got to get it at the end.

Speaker 1:
[53:53] At the end.

Speaker 2:
[53:54] How big can you make your own ice cream gun?

Speaker 1:
[53:56] Make it tall, baby. Make it long. You like it long? Shonys was something else, dude. And they would give away these stuffed animals up front, and the sowing on them was real bad. By the time you got them bitches to the car, they was more of a... They looked... They was starting to give out a little.

Speaker 2:
[54:14] Did you go to IHOP?

Speaker 1:
[54:16] We went to IHOP, but...

Speaker 2:
[54:18] Waffle House?

Speaker 1:
[54:19] We went to Waffle House. Yeah, dude. At our Waffle House, they had... It was like... Our town was at the end of the longest bridge in the world for a while, anyway, and then they built a death from them, but then that one got tore down, and so we were back. Anyway, they had a... So the people that would get DUIs on there at night, or DWIs at night, the police officers would just drop them off at the Waffle House. They wouldn't arrest them. They'd just take them down there and drop them off.

Speaker 2:
[54:45] That's kind.

Speaker 1:
[54:45] Yeah, it was really cool. I'm just like, hey, stay here and sober up. So when you as a kid, you was running around, you could just pop in there and just hang... You'd be hanging out with the drunks and eating with all these cool drunks and shit.

Speaker 2:
[54:55] I think that's a lot of waffle houses late at night.

Speaker 1:
[54:57] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[54:57] Ours was too.

Speaker 1:
[54:58] It's kind of like a little mini rehab.

Speaker 2:
[54:59] Come and smoke and sit outside, one of the cooks, you know.

Speaker 1:
[55:01] Oh, definitely.

Speaker 2:
[55:02] I'll be in, baby.

Speaker 1:
[55:03] Yeah. Yeah. Or dude, the best is the white guy that can't even blink his eyes. So he's so geeked up and he's just making eggs, boy.

Speaker 2:
[55:11] Dude, so many, so many things.

Speaker 1:
[55:13] Oh, he'll just rip an omelet out of a chicken's ass. That dude's ready to...

Speaker 2:
[55:15] And they're all yelling at him.

Speaker 1:
[55:17] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[55:18] The best are the fights in there when they start fighting.

Speaker 1:
[55:20] It's so closed environment in there when they do the fights. I don't like being in the cage.

Speaker 2:
[55:26] They do the fights, so you've seen them?

Speaker 1:
[55:28] Yeah, it's like, I don't like being in the cage. I want to be outside of the cage. If they lock the door...

Speaker 2:
[55:32] Well, you sit on this side of the bar and they're on that side.

Speaker 1:
[55:34] Oh, that's, yeah. Oh, you mean the employees fighting? Yeah. I don't like them.

Speaker 2:
[55:38] Just random ones. I like to go to Waffle House and watch fights.

Speaker 1:
[55:41] Yeah. Well, dude, the one in Baton Rouge used to do... Look up Valentine's Day, Waffle House, Baton Rouge. They did a special thing. Did they do it at other ones you know about? Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[55:53] Like the decorations?

Speaker 2:
[55:55] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[55:55] They would decorate it and you could make a reservation. Yes.

Speaker 2:
[55:58] Where they put like a white tablecloth.

Speaker 1:
[55:59] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[56:01] That... It's romantic. I would really like that.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[56:41] I like that.

Speaker 1:
[56:42] Heart shaped hash browns. You kidding me? You know they have that? Steak and eggs with extra sides to share.

Speaker 2:
[56:49] I think I've been to Waffle House on New Year's Day for the past like five years.

Speaker 1:
[56:53] Oh, God.

Speaker 2:
[56:53] Maybe even six.

Speaker 1:
[56:54] Yeah?

Speaker 2:
[56:55] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[56:55] That's beautiful. They used to have like a badge or like a recurring partner system. Chocolate pie slices and strawberry milkshakes served as a simple date night drink.

Speaker 2:
[57:06] A steak from a Waffle House.

Speaker 1:
[57:08] Hell yeah.

Speaker 2:
[57:09] Just doing it up.

Speaker 1:
[57:10] Dude, I met a woman off the Internet once and she was from another country. She'd never been to a Waffle House and I took her to one and she loved it.

Speaker 2:
[57:19] That's one of my red flags. If a guy's like, let's go to Waffle House early in the morning, he's like, no.

Speaker 1:
[57:25] He says no?

Speaker 2:
[57:26] Let's go to Cracker Barrel. I feel like Waffle House over Cracker Barrel. I don't know. I don't know. Depends on if I want pancakes.

Speaker 1:
[57:35] I don't know. A lot of these pancakes these days, they're too hot. They're too fluffy and fat for me. I like that bitch. Like somebody already tried to eat it and it said, hell no. I like that thing. It's tough. I like a pancake.

Speaker 2:
[57:47] What does that look like?

Speaker 1:
[57:48] Just a pancake. I like that bitch.

Speaker 2:
[57:50] Flat?

Speaker 1:
[57:50] Yeah, flat. Kind of burnt. I don't like that big fluffy. It looks like part of a piece of, like an actual part of a layer of cake.

Speaker 2:
[57:56] I think that's a flapjack.

Speaker 1:
[57:58] Yeah, it could be. What is a flapjack? Bring it up because yeah, people are wandering around. People are eating hotcakes.

Speaker 2:
[58:04] What is the difference between pancake and flapjack?

Speaker 1:
[58:06] People are eating all of them, Ella. I don't know. A British flapjack is a simple, chewy, and only baked bar made by melting butter. No, don't even pull up with that shit. I'll burn your damn golf clubs if you pull that shit up again.

Speaker 2:
[58:20] It's not that bar thing.

Speaker 1:
[58:22] No, it's not. It is a, I like that group. Now, some people came out with something. Here we go. A flapjack is a baked oat bar. This isn't it, man.

Speaker 2:
[58:32] I think it is the oat bar.

Speaker 1:
[58:34] Well, then, I've been getting something else. I call it a flapjack. I like that thing that's real. It's just kind of a little more flimsy. It kind of looks like it'll fucking slap your ass if you're walking by. You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 2:
[58:45] Anyway, make the sound.

Speaker 1:
[58:46] Yeah. Finally, your brother made a sound, so he's having a good time. And I'll tell you something. I don't love a ton of syrup. I like a fair amount, but I don't like too much.

Speaker 2:
[58:55] I love it.

Speaker 1:
[58:56] You do? Do you like condiments and stuff like that? Are you a condiment person?

Speaker 2:
[59:00] To anything. I love it.

Speaker 1:
[59:01] You ever had that Zitzacki sauce? Bring it up.

Speaker 2:
[59:04] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:04] You've had it?

Speaker 2:
[59:05] The Zach sauce?

Speaker 1:
[59:07] No, Zitzacki. Bring it up.

Speaker 2:
[59:09] No, I never heard of that.

Speaker 1:
[59:10] Zad, Zit, Zad.

Speaker 2:
[59:13] Tzatziki?

Speaker 1:
[59:15] Don't even tell me that's how y'all spell it. Tzatziki.

Speaker 2:
[59:18] That is, what did you just say? Zachariah songs?

Speaker 1:
[59:22] I said that. I said Levitians 4.13, that's what I said. I said Copernicus 12.6.

Speaker 2:
[59:30] Yeah, I've had that sauce before.

Speaker 1:
[59:34] Yeah, people say, Tzatziki, I want that Tzatziki, baby.

Speaker 2:
[59:41] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:42] People love that Tzatziki. Now, what I will say is this, I do like it.

Speaker 2:
[59:47] How do you prefer it?

Speaker 1:
[59:48] Tzatziki?

Speaker 2:
[59:49] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[59:49] Just straight up in the little.

Speaker 2:
[59:51] With the little bread thing or?

Speaker 1:
[59:54] Oh, I'll take it with a P to use these. I'll have it, but I'll have a little, I mean, I've never taken one and drinking one or whatever. Like my sister used to steal all those little coffee creamers from the fricking place my stepdad would take us and she would drink them in her bed at night, all those little.

Speaker 2:
[60:07] Dude, the little ones?

Speaker 1:
[60:09] The hazelnut ones.

Speaker 2:
[60:10] That cannot be good.

Speaker 1:
[60:12] That sleepy little bitch.

Speaker 2:
[60:13] That cannot be good for your gut.

Speaker 1:
[60:14] That sleepy little bitch would finish off six of those and wonder why she's having nightmares because you're drinking damn stolen milk, okay?

Speaker 2:
[60:22] I don't understand how those stay good out for so long. I don't ever understand. And why can condiments stay on the tables at restaurants for so long, but they can at the house? I got a lot of questions.

Speaker 1:
[60:34] But no, they used to put them, they used to put the creamers on a thing of ice. In some places that I think still have respect.

Speaker 2:
[60:41] They still do, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[60:42] But some of them, those hazelnut ones, those are bad for you.

Speaker 2:
[60:44] They'll just give it to you in a coffee mug. That's already there. It's like piling them in a coffee mug and hand it to you.

Speaker 1:
[60:51] Oh yeah, somebody would just stack them in like that. But my sister would have six or eleven of them bitches in there. Complaining she's got an upset stomach. Bitch, of course you do.

Speaker 2:
[60:59] She's probably going to have an upset stomach for the rest of her life due to that.

Speaker 1:
[61:04] And she already had a damn liver transplant. You ain't getting nothing else. Mom got her that when we were kids.

Speaker 2:
[61:09] Well, what did you get?

Speaker 1:
[61:10] I didn't get shit, dude. I remember I got roller skates that were way too big for me.

Speaker 2:
[61:16] What were you like? What did you do?

Speaker 1:
[61:18] Me? I was pretty good, I guess. I don't know. I like to do my own thing. I just like to hitchhike and just have angry thoughts, I think, a lot as a kid.

Speaker 2:
[61:29] What did you do? Did you like play sports or?

Speaker 1:
[61:31] Yeah, I played basketball. What did I like to do? I like to be on my bike when I was a kid. My dad was super old, so we was always messing with him and shit. My dad was 70 when I was born, so he was an old guy. Yeah, he was old. My brother used to come in the room. I've told this before, my brother would come in the room and he'd be like, Dad's dead. And I'd be like, What? He'd be like, Yup, go in there. He's dead. And I'd go in there and he wouldn't be dead.

Speaker 2:
[62:03] Yeah. How many times did that happen?

Speaker 1:
[62:05] Oh, well, then this is how we started to flip after a while, because he'd be like, Dad's dead. And I'd be like, he'd freaking better be dead.

Speaker 2:
[62:12] Or you're dead.

Speaker 1:
[62:13] Or I'm going to whip your ass.

Speaker 2:
[62:14] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[62:15] So it got to the point where you like, hope like if dad's alive, somebody's getting their ass beat. So which is a crazy concept.

Speaker 2:
[62:22] You have to go in there and check one more time. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[62:24] Well, your dad is barely alive.

Speaker 2:
[62:26] You just go in there and kind of pissed off like this.

Speaker 1:
[62:28] There's three pictures. I mean, look at the top. Look, top four actually are all me. Zoom in on all of those. God, that looks good. That one's me.

Speaker 2:
[62:40] No, it ain't.

Speaker 1:
[62:41] Yup.

Speaker 2:
[62:41] No, it's not.

Speaker 1:
[62:42] Well.

Speaker 2:
[62:43] Is it really?

Speaker 1:
[62:44] We had some tough years. Yeah. I mean, obviously bring that kid back up.

Speaker 2:
[62:48] Dude, that is not you.

Speaker 1:
[62:50] We had some damn tough years.

Speaker 2:
[62:51] What's going on with that little zz-z-z-z thing on the side?

Speaker 1:
[62:57] Oh, honey, that's a fade, girl. That's a one into a 19. Have you ever seen that cut?

Speaker 2:
[63:03] That's crazy. It's like a bowl cut with like a weird shaped bowl.

Speaker 1:
[63:07] That's a Christian cut right there.

Speaker 2:
[63:09] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[63:09] Who cut your hair growing up, Ella Langley?

Speaker 2:
[63:12] Um, all kinds of people. I have a bad tendency to cut my own hair.

Speaker 1:
[63:16] Yup.

Speaker 2:
[63:17] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[63:17] I like that best. I really was. There's something about it. Why do you do that? And why have you enjoyed that?

Speaker 2:
[63:23] I don't know. Because it doesn't always go... Most of the time it goes bad. That's how I got bangs in the first place. I stopped... I was wearing a cowboy hat for a while. And then I took it off because it was windy one show and it was pissing me off. I decided, you know what? I'm going to take it off. And I liked how my bangs like were kind of around my face. And like 20 minutes before I walked out on stage, I decided to cut my fringe a little bit. And it was so bad. There was like one piece right here. And I was shooting the cover art for my first record that next week and Kayleigh was like, I hate you.

Speaker 1:
[63:59] At least she was honest with you.

Speaker 2:
[64:00] So I had to get, I just told her, full send it with the bangs. Yep.

Speaker 1:
[64:05] And now you're in.

Speaker 2:
[64:06] I don't think I can ever change it.

Speaker 1:
[64:08] Yeah, you love it that much, huh?

Speaker 2:
[64:09] It changed my life a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[64:11] Really?

Speaker 2:
[64:11] Yeah, I would say. I mean, I don't know. The bang thing is...

Speaker 1:
[64:17] I think it's the music.

Speaker 2:
[64:19] Well, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[64:20] But yeah, I mean, I think...

Speaker 2:
[64:21] Well, maybe a little bit of the music, but mainly the bangs.

Speaker 1:
[64:24] The bangs are nice. You know what's funny is, there's a, I think there's a, there's a, like a, what's it called? Like a big poster board in the air or whatever?

Speaker 2:
[64:34] I don't know what you're referencing right now. It looks crazy.

Speaker 3:
[64:37] Billboard.

Speaker 1:
[64:38] There's like a billboard over on Hillsboro Pike, and I thought it was you on it.

Speaker 2:
[64:45] I think I know what board you're talking about.

Speaker 1:
[64:47] Dude, here's a funny thing. I'd go buy it sometimes, and I'd always just rattle off something or sing a couple of your lyrics to it. And then somebody told me, somebody told me it's not you.

Speaker 2:
[64:57] It's not. But I know what you're talking about. And what do you mean you'd sing a couple of lyrics to it?

Speaker 1:
[65:02] I would just rattle off something, you know? I was like, oh there.

Speaker 2:
[65:04] Just to be like, what's up?

Speaker 1:
[65:05] Yeah, there's Ella just seeing how she's doing. Oh, she's still high and mighty up on that billboard up there with the, and I think it's for an earring company. I mean, I say with her fancy earrings or whatever, big earrings too. I mean, this lady had damn bird cages hanging off her head over there.

Speaker 2:
[65:19] No, what me?

Speaker 1:
[65:20] It wasn't you though.

Speaker 2:
[65:21] Wish it was.

Speaker 1:
[65:22] God, yeah. You ought to have gotten to spend more time with you. So me too. It would have been nice, I think. At school, sometimes we ask about Valentine's Day. Did you have a thing at school where you had valentines at school? Or was y'all school too small to even give a valentine? Because other people's feelings could really get hurt in that sort of closed environment.

Speaker 2:
[65:42] No, we still had valentines day.

Speaker 1:
[65:43] God.

Speaker 2:
[65:44] Yeah, we still did. It did. Every feeling did get hurt.

Speaker 1:
[65:48] If there's nine kids in my class and there's valentines day, dude, I couldn't cut that.

Speaker 2:
[65:53] That was, I'll never forget this kid. He was in our class. His name was Freddie. And he brought in this little bear and he gave it to me. And he's like, if you for you to have this bear, you got to be my girlfriend. I was like, sorry, buddy. Can't do it.

Speaker 1:
[66:07] I'm a horse girl.

Speaker 2:
[66:09] But then he went over to Shelly and gave her the bear.

Speaker 1:
[66:12] No, he didn't.

Speaker 2:
[66:12] Then I was like, hey, Freddie, come back over here. I will be your girlfriend.

Speaker 1:
[66:17] Oh, damn.

Speaker 2:
[66:18] Give me that bear back.

Speaker 1:
[66:19] So you saw that competition and Ella said, I ain't losing out. And Freddie was willing to get a woman an animal. Dude, I remember we had a guy by us. He was a taxidermist or whatever. And I just remember he had all these hard stuffed animals. I didn't know.

Speaker 2:
[66:32] Hard ones, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[66:33] Yeah, I was like, that dude has the hardest stuffed animals ever. He gave me like a squirrel because my mother said I'd love it over there all the time. She'd find me over there. And he gave me like a squirrel. And I slept with that thing. My mom was there for like four years. This big taxidermy ass squirrel.

Speaker 2:
[66:47] No, you didn't.

Speaker 1:
[66:48] With a hard tail. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[66:49] What do you mean a hard tail?

Speaker 1:
[66:51] He had it. Bring up a look at that bitch. Yeah. Look at the one. Yeah. That's a stripper.

Speaker 2:
[66:55] I've never seen one done like that before.

Speaker 1:
[66:57] Look at the one that's a stripper right there.

Speaker 2:
[66:59] That's the one that you had for sure.

Speaker 1:
[67:01] I think, I mean, I don't know. I was young, but I was happy to have it.

Speaker 2:
[67:05] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[67:07] Look at the one canoeing in its own tail. That's pretty great, actually.

Speaker 3:
[67:10] Did it have a name?

Speaker 1:
[67:11] Huh? Did you name this world? Yeah, Mr. Tucker. So he could have been trans. I have no idea. Who knows? Okay. A couple of questions about your album and then your new, what'd you say?

Speaker 2:
[67:24] Say real quick, Ella, could you pull your mic to the right just a little bit?

Speaker 1:
[67:27] Will you come help her, Trevyn? She doesn't need any help, sorry.

Speaker 2:
[67:30] That's perfect.

Speaker 1:
[67:31] This is Ella.

Speaker 2:
[67:33] Why'd you say that?

Speaker 1:
[67:34] Just because I'm thinking if there's one lady that doesn't need any help, it's probably you, I think.

Speaker 2:
[67:38] Sometimes I need help.

Speaker 1:
[67:39] You do?

Speaker 2:
[67:40] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[67:40] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[67:42] I know. Sometimes I do too. I think that's one tough thing about when you like, when things start, I think if you're like a person that's kind of controlling or you like to have a say in everything you do, do you feel like you're that kind of person? That's one thing that I love about Morgan is, Morgan knows exactly what he's doing. He is dialed in to a T, I feel like, on what is him and what represents him.

Speaker 2:
[68:07] Yeah. I'm very much that way. I mean, every bit of what I do, I have my hand in it. I'm co-producing the record. I'm writing stuff for the music video, co-directing that. I'm making the set list for the show and kind of creating that set. I literally drew out our set in my journal and gave it to the set designer. I was like, this is what I want. And they literally made that for me.

Speaker 1:
[68:31] So when people come to see this next door, it's all you.

Speaker 2:
[68:34] No, I mean, I have an incredible team.

Speaker 1:
[68:36] Right, but it all comes from you originally.

Speaker 2:
[68:39] Yeah. And it's interesting. It's hard to find people that... Sometimes people get stingy with your art, in a way. And it's funny. It's like a pride thing. And I care so much about the people that I work with, it being a collaborative experience. You know? And so everyone on my team, it really is that with, whether it be my stylist or my makeup artist or Kayleigh over here, who's my photographer and also a creative director of my management, you know? My band. It's kind of... Like, I don't tell my band to get up there and play this dang thing, Lick for Lick. I want us to get up there and have, you know, fun and play music. And obviously, there's a way a show should go. But I don't know. I just think that sometimes people put these weird perimeters around such a creative thing. And something that, like, I think You Look Like You Love Me did for me was, like, everyone told me that song was not going to work, you know?

Speaker 1:
[69:33] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[69:34] They were all like, what? What are you? My label tried to get me to sing.

Speaker 1:
[69:38] After y'all had cut it or before?

Speaker 2:
[69:39] Yes. After we had cut it, they were like, we really think you need to go back in and sing these verses. I was like, I'm not singing it. And they're like, you need to sing it. And I just fought them really hard on it.

Speaker 1:
[69:50] And they thought, you need to go back in and sing Riley's verses. Is Riley the one who sings on that?

Speaker 2:
[69:54] Yeah. But no, like the, yeah, the talking part. You know, I was all but 22, I think, at the time.

Speaker 1:
[70:00] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[70:01] Yeah. No, they wanted me to sing that, go back in. They're like, this is like going to be the worst performing song on the record.

Speaker 1:
[70:06] No.

Speaker 2:
[70:06] Yeah. And so I think with that one, I mean, it was just different.

Speaker 1:
[70:11] And you knew it wasn't?

Speaker 2:
[70:12] I mean, I didn't know what it was going to do, but I believed that.

Speaker 1:
[70:15] You believed in what it was though?

Speaker 2:
[70:16] I believed that it was different. I believed that it was something that made me smile and I enjoyed singing it. And, you know, like I said, once I put my mind to something, like if I go in and cut something, it's because I believe in it.

Speaker 1:
[70:29] And it feels like you get to know you some in that song a little bit too. I mean, it's just there's something about when somebody's talking to you, you know, when they're talking as well. I think there's. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[70:39] Tells a story in a different way.

Speaker 1:
[70:40] Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Dang. Who's out there telling Ella Langley no?

Speaker 2:
[70:48] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[70:50] But have there been parts where you've like, like as things got busier, you're like learning how to be like kind of like a boss, a leader, not necessarily a boss, but like a leader.

Speaker 2:
[70:59] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[71:00] And then those are roles that you have to step into. I think if you want to be like exactly how you want to be, you know, cause otherwise there's like, especially in music and Hollywood type of stuff, there's, it'll make something for you and serve it out there, you know? But if you want to be on top of it, it takes a lot.

Speaker 2:
[71:20] It does. I think that's one of the harder parts of this job and kind of what I've watched from watching other artists my whole life, obviously wanting to do this paid attention in a way like, you really do have to get up and fight to do it the way you want to do it every day.

Speaker 1:
[71:35] Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 2:
[71:36] You do, it's exhausting and people all day, the more success, the more people care about what you're doing. You know what I mean? In the beginning, in a label, when I was first signed, it wasn't a competitive deal. I didn't really have that much going on and it was more of like a banking on me type of a situation. So now, everyone is paying a little closer attention to what's happening, obviously.

Speaker 1:
[72:00] The pressure feels a little bit more.

Speaker 2:
[72:02] And everyone has an opinion and it's like that across the board. And that's just because it's working and everyone wants it to stay working. And you know yourself the best and your artistry. And at the end of the day, I'm the one that's going to have to do that interview. I'm the one that's going to have to sing that song every night. I'm the one that's going to have to go take those pictures. I'm the one that's going to have to work with these people. And I think it's just constantly reminding them of that and not compromising who you are as a human being because well, this is how it's usually done. I hate that phrase. I hate, well, this is what you would usually do. I was like, well, I don't give a rat's ass what you would usually do. I do not want to do it like that. I really don't. And I'm going to stick my heels in the mud.

Speaker 1:
[72:44] Yeah, I don't even have any heels. And I'm just going to put my feet in there.

Speaker 2:
[72:46] You do have heels. That's the bottom of your foot.

Speaker 1:
[72:49] This is, oh, yeah, you're right. And I'm going to put them in the mud. Yeah, dude, I've always, I don't want to do it how you want it. Dude, that's been the pilot light of my entire existence.

Speaker 2:
[73:00] Oh, yeah, do it like this. That's the worst thing you could tell me if you don't want me to do it.

Speaker 1:
[73:04] Dude, I don't want to do any. I never want, dude, I couldn't even, my eyes wasn't even open. And I was like, I ain't doing shit like you want me to.

Speaker 2:
[73:12] Yeah, keep your eyes straight. you. Nah, how about nah?

Speaker 1:
[73:18] Nah, bitch, I'm going to remix right out the gate.

Speaker 2:
[73:21] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[73:25] That's hilarious. Oh, congratulations, you guys, your tour with Morgan starts April 18th in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Bryant-Denny Stadium.

Speaker 2:
[73:36] I know, home state.

Speaker 1:
[73:38] That's so crazy.

Speaker 2:
[73:39] I think it's the first concert to be in there since like, what, 19 something?

Speaker 1:
[73:45] Bring it up.

Speaker 2:
[73:45] 1970 something. I think Alabama was the last thing. Oh, hey, bring it up.

Speaker 1:
[73:49] Oh, my god.

Speaker 2:
[73:52] Kaylee took that over there.

Speaker 1:
[73:53] Did she? God, take some of me, Kaylee. I need to live like that. I need to get a damn broach.

Speaker 2:
[74:00] A broach?

Speaker 1:
[74:02] I mean a nice necktie. I'm just joking. I'm trying to make your brother laugh. The only joy I'm having is when you guys laugh.

Speaker 2:
[74:11] That's the gig, huh?

Speaker 1:
[74:13] Well, yeah, it's just nice. When people laugh, I feel okay.

Speaker 2:
[74:16] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[74:17] Alabama Stadium show right there at Bryant. When was the last one? That's what we're asking.

Speaker 2:
[74:24] Honestly.

Speaker 1:
[74:25] This guy's just looking at pictures of men online. That's the dang football team. We just want to know when was the last one. Just ask somebody. Fucking ask, who's that Roll Tide guy? Oh, ask Roll Tide Willie, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[74:40] He's actually from your hometown.

Speaker 1:
[74:42] Dude, he was in the military with my buddy's dad. He used to be pretty, not normal, but better. I went home.

Speaker 3:
[74:49] That's where he's from.

Speaker 1:
[74:50] What? Yup. God bless him. The last concert held at Bryan Denny Stadium was a performance by the band Alabama in 1992, which followed a series of Vama Blast concerts in the early 1980s. The 2008 concert with Alan Jackson was scheduled but canceled. Damn. So that's been 30, 33 years.

Speaker 2:
[75:13] Yeah, I'm pretty excited about that one.

Speaker 1:
[75:15] That's crazy.

Speaker 2:
[75:16] And we're direct support this year. We've really worked our way up on this tour. First tour, we were first of four. We did with him. Last year, we were second of four. This year, we're direct.

Speaker 1:
[75:29] Congratulations.

Speaker 2:
[75:29] Just climb your way, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[75:31] He says, I mean, I've spoken with him about you and just, and he's like, she's got, she has it. She has got it.

Speaker 2:
[75:38] He's been really cool.

Speaker 1:
[75:39] He's a unique dude, man.

Speaker 2:
[75:40] Well, you know, I mean, him and Earn and Hardy and that whole crew has just been super kind to me.

Speaker 1:
[75:46] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[75:47] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[75:47] Oh, there's that whole group. So much fun. I remember right whenever I moved in town, we had a podcast studio. I was living over in Wedgwood Houston. I just was renting a house and putting a podcast studio and the guy was always stopping my eyes. Like, you have a podcast studio in here? I was like, no. And just like, hold on. He's like, for some reason this guy hated podcasts and whatever. And one day we got to have Morgan and came and then we had like, kind of just snuck out Hardy and Ernie and we had a blast over there. But that was fun. That was like an early episode that we had here in town.

Speaker 2:
[76:16] Yeah. Those shows are going to be cool.

Speaker 1:
[76:17] It's going to be so great. And, oh, there was something else I was going to ask you about. Oh, and then you're doing stagecoach too. Yeah. Me and my buddy, you're DJing there.

Speaker 2:
[76:26] Really? Yeah. Have you DJed before?

Speaker 1:
[76:28] No. But it looks so dang easy.

Speaker 2:
[76:33] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[76:34] I'm just joking, Diplo. But it looks pretty damn easy. So yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2:
[76:40] Yeah. I don't know. I've never tried that.

Speaker 1:
[76:42] But yeah, me and my friend, Caleb Pressley, are going to play at Diplo's Honky Tonk show.

Speaker 2:
[76:47] Stuart met him.

Speaker 1:
[76:49] You did? I did.

Speaker 3:
[76:50] Him and Glennie Balls.

Speaker 1:
[76:51] Oh, they're great, aren't they? Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[76:52] I love them.

Speaker 1:
[76:54] Glennie Balls is a character, man.

Speaker 3:
[76:55] He is.

Speaker 1:
[76:56] He loves a nice cheese, too. If you know of a restaurant in the area, he'll tell you about cheeses in any area. He almost has like a like a.

Speaker 2:
[77:04] You say, yeah, you will. You know that? Like he already knew that. He loves them cheeses.

Speaker 1:
[77:13] You know, I met him over at Havarti. Listening to Havarti. And I'm sorry. I'm just dropping a horrible cheese country music lyrics here.

Speaker 2:
[77:24] That sounds great.

Speaker 1:
[77:25] I thought it wasn't too bad.

Speaker 2:
[77:27] It's how easy it is.

Speaker 1:
[77:28] But no, that's so that's going to be cool. I'm excited. I'm excited to get to see a play out there. Let's talk about and thanks so much for spending time with us today.

Speaker 2:
[77:38] Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1:
[77:40] I appreciate it. We're happy to have you. We had this girl in yesterday. Have you ever seen that girl? She's on TikTok. She has stenosis. She has a syndrome. Cystinosis. Cystinosis. She keeps changing the name of it. But this is her. Have you seen her? She talks about the spice, a little bit of spice.

Speaker 2:
[78:01] A little hint of spiciness, a little hint of soy sauce, a little hint of the tomato, a little hint of the spice.

Speaker 1:
[78:09] A little hint of tomato in ramen?

Speaker 2:
[78:10] Yeah, it actually has a little hint of tomato. Oh yeah?

Speaker 4:
[78:13] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[78:14] What is a hint? I don't even know.

Speaker 2:
[78:17] It just sounds like a real word. That's me all the time. What is even that? I don't know. It just sounds like a real word.

Speaker 1:
[78:23] Just say it first and figure it out later. Yeah. You have your new album, Dandelion. Or Dandelion. That's how people, some people were saying it. Yeah. Congratulations. Did you feel like you had to hurry up and get this out? Or because I think sometimes coming off of like, you know, like you said earlier, like your career starts getting bigger and things start to feel like you don't want to lose the momentum, right? You've worked so hard to build a flame. Did it feel like any pressures? Like what were some pressures that were involved with this? Or was it just completely smooth? And is that a ridiculous question?

Speaker 2:
[78:58] Nothing is ever completely smooth. I don't think for real. Some, I don't know, well, I don't know. Maybe some things.

Speaker 1:
[79:05] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[79:06] Some things.

Speaker 1:
[79:08] Some things, maybe, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[79:09] But this record, I mean, I worked on it for like a year and a half. So it still took a while. But I keep saying the big word for this record is synchronicity. It did just feel like a lot of things while it was, you know, I'm co-producing for the first time, while I'm full-time touring two different tours, while, you know, just trying to balance everything at the same time, get the vocals done, you know, and it taught me a lot. And that's what was so cool about having Miranda to be a part of it, you know, because she's just so honest, you know, you've met her and hung out with her. She's just so real.

Speaker 1:
[79:46] Yeah, she's great. She likes barrel racing too.

Speaker 2:
[79:48] Yeah, she does. But she just, you know, she was just honest about, you know, days where I was like, she's like, you're burnt, dude. Take a step back. Yeah. But also, like, you know, some things I wanted to go in there, I'm like, can I say that? She's like, hell yeah, you can say that. You can say whatever the hell you want to. You know? So like that confidence of someone that has done it and like you look up at their career so much, you're like, you know what? Hell yeah. You know what? Yes. Actually, I do want the cymbals to be louder right there. I do. And no, it was really cool. This whole record, I'm so excited about it. I've never been more excited about music in my life.

Speaker 1:
[80:26] Really?

Speaker 2:
[80:27] I think I've clicked in my artistry.

Speaker 1:
[80:30] Let's go, Ella.

Speaker 2:
[80:31] Yeah. Yeah. I think I really have...

Speaker 1:
[80:33] That's a pretty badass thing to say.

Speaker 2:
[80:35] Yeah. I think...

Speaker 1:
[80:36] Especially if you're somebody you mentioned earlier that you're such a judge of yourself, you know? That you get off stage and you're like, yeah, that was fine, but it wasn't as exact as I could possibly have been, you know?

Speaker 2:
[80:50] Yeah. Man, this is as exact as I want it to be. I just... We had such a vision for it. Like, I had a hundred and something song reference playlist of what I wanted sonically for this record. And...

Speaker 1:
[81:02] Now, what do you mean? What does that mean?

Speaker 2:
[81:03] I literally just went on Spotify and made a playlist of, like, all of these songs of the era I was listening for, like, guitar tones and drum sounds and BGV background vocal parts. And, you know...

Speaker 1:
[81:15] Do you start with that idea before anything?

Speaker 2:
[81:18] Well, actually, it started with the title Dandelion. We had written that song. It's the oldest song on the record. It was almost going to be put on the last record, but I pulled it at the last minute because I just kind of felt like sonically it's where I wanted to go. And I knew it was like the context was like, feels like I'm growing and I'm not just so hung over and doing debauchery every day of my life, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe just on Tuesdays, you know? But, yeah, so I found out that Dandelion tea is a detox for your liver. Oh, yeah. And when I heard that, it was like a light bulb went off over my head. It's like, oh my God, a record called Dandelion coming after a record called Hung Over. It's like, you're just growing up. You're, you know, Dandelions are resilient. They're kind of considered a weed. But, I mean, what are kids going and picking out for their moms and bringing them? You know, it's a bunch of Dandelions and they're actually spread on the wind, which is cool if it weren't for the wind.

Speaker 1:
[82:17] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[82:17] So that's a little random little nugget in there. But, I mean, so much of that stuff is in this record. And I love it. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[82:24] I mean, sometimes I play it when I'm in my room or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[82:28] You feel that you feel like a dandelion?

Speaker 1:
[82:29] I will play it. I'm not saying all that, but I will say I will play it sometimes.

Speaker 2:
[82:33] You never have felt like a dandelion?

Speaker 1:
[82:35] I don't think so. I don't know. I mean, I could have to read through my diary, but I don't think so. Probably not. But that's OK.

Speaker 2:
[82:43] That's OK.

Speaker 1:
[82:43] But I just, yeah. I mean, I love you.

Speaker 2:
[82:44] You're more of a rose.

Speaker 1:
[82:46] OK. I'm more of a damn, what's the plant that grows on your house even if you don't want it to? Yeah, I'm more of a kudzu.

Speaker 2:
[82:54] You are more of a kudzu.

Speaker 1:
[82:56] I'm more of a damn kudzu, because they can't get rid of me. They're like, this bastard. I thought we put him out years ago. And it's like, bitch, I'm still.

Speaker 2:
[83:04] You were growing under the porch the whole time.

Speaker 1:
[83:05] I'll come out and I'll tap on your window. I'm only planting.

Speaker 2:
[83:09] Late at night. Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[83:11] I'm like a damn fungus. Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[83:13] Sorry.

Speaker 1:
[83:13] Thank you, sir. I like to, I like to vine, but we'll go fungus. We'll go fungus. No. But no, I love listening to your music. It's great. I mean, I'll be standing. I'll be standing. And who am I to judge? It's great, dude. One time I said to Morgan, I was like, man, that song is good. And he looked at me and he goes, that song is great. And I was like, he's right. And he was right.

Speaker 2:
[83:38] You just kind of sat there in silence for a minute.

Speaker 1:
[83:39] I was just trying to, I think, be cool. And he was like, no. And he was right.

Speaker 2:
[83:44] He got kind of sweaty right when he said that.

Speaker 1:
[83:45] Yeah, I think we're actually working out somewhere. So it was like, you know. Extra. It was just like, I don't know what was going on. But I remember him saying, that song is great. I was like, I respect his confidence about it. But no, I love listening to your music. It's great. But stop, quit saying that, dude. You sound like a weirdo. I like listening to your music.

Speaker 2:
[84:06] There's that smile again.

Speaker 1:
[84:07] But here's what happens is, I'll be talking to dudes and I'll be walking up and singing. Or I'm at the dang market and some guys walking by singing it.

Speaker 2:
[84:17] Singing it?

Speaker 1:
[84:18] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[84:19] Dandelion?

Speaker 1:
[84:20] All of it.

Speaker 2:
[84:21] Be heard?

Speaker 1:
[84:22] Yeah. Oh dude, yeah, my friend Alan the other day, he said, I can't get this out of my head. And I was like, well, dang, go look at some porno or something. Or go get a dang, one of them nudie mags or something. Or a bucko, you know?

Speaker 2:
[84:38] That usually, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[84:39] But anyway, I was just saying, cause that song is more of like a women-focused song. That's all I wrote.

Speaker 2:
[84:44] I wrote it with three guys.

Speaker 1:
[84:45] Did you?

Speaker 2:
[84:45] Yeah, Hardy's one.

Speaker 4:
[84:47] Did he?

Speaker 1:
[84:48] He does have long hair.

Speaker 2:
[84:49] He does.

Speaker 1:
[84:51] And he has nice hair too. Well, tell me, like, so when it comes down to making the final songs, like, or did you-

Speaker 2:
[84:59] You wanna play one? You wanna pick one out to play?

Speaker 1:
[85:02] Yeah, play a song. Really?

Speaker 2:
[85:04] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[85:04] Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2:
[85:06] I'll give you all the titles.

Speaker 1:
[85:07] All right.

Speaker 2:
[85:08] And then you can just pick one of them. Let me see about one. Just pick one that's not out yet.

Speaker 1:
[85:13] All right.

Speaker 2:
[85:14] If you- Well, how would you know? How would you know?

Speaker 1:
[85:17] I think I will know.

Speaker 2:
[85:18] Okay. Where was that sent to me at? Thank you. Okay.

Speaker 1:
[85:26] All right, let me see that. Let me just put my number in here. Sorry, I'm just watching this. Sorry. Just got taken over by the devil. The dang devil is-

Speaker 2:
[85:36] He's swiping around in there. He's always looking at his- It's like you hand it to your dad and he just keeps wiping. You're like-

Speaker 1:
[85:41] Bro, if you give somebody a phone and they swipe one picture, is there anything scarier? You have no idea what that could be.

Speaker 2:
[85:50] You just swallow. It's just so hard immediately.

Speaker 1:
[85:53] It could be casserole. It could be somebody getting a tummy tuck.

Speaker 2:
[85:57] Was this something you meant to take to show your doctor later?

Speaker 1:
[86:01] Oh, you're like, that's for my doctor. You're like, you were going to show that young lady to your doctor?

Speaker 2:
[86:07] I don't know. Me and my doctor are in touch.

Speaker 1:
[86:09] I need to go to a meeting. What about Last Call for Us?

Speaker 2:
[86:14] Yeah, you could play that one.

Speaker 1:
[86:17] Is it a fun one?

Speaker 2:
[86:21] It's not as much fun, but if you want fun, not that one.

Speaker 1:
[86:26] Oh, that's true, huh?

Speaker 2:
[86:28] But it's, I mean, I like this song.

Speaker 1:
[86:32] Oh my God. I'll just listen and enjoy it.

Speaker 2:
[86:39] Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[87:31] Here we go, boy.

Speaker 3:
[87:35] Get a picture of Chuck tapping in.

Speaker 2:
[87:37] He's my ultimate hype man.

Speaker 1:
[87:39] I can edit that in right there. We can fade it out some.

Speaker 2:
[87:54] I think we could play one more.

Speaker 1:
[87:55] We can?

Speaker 2:
[87:56] And then we can just pick which one.

Speaker 1:
[87:58] Let's do that.

Speaker 2:
[87:59] Play a fun one.

Speaker 1:
[88:00] That's good, because that might be sad, because what if somebody's just put their animal down or something?

Speaker 2:
[88:04] Then that's the song they want to cry to.

Speaker 1:
[88:05] Actually, that's a good point.

Speaker 2:
[88:06] That's why we put it out there.

Speaker 1:
[88:07] Yeah, and thank you for that.

Speaker 2:
[88:09] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[88:09] And I'll say this, I went and saw Dermot Kennedy one time. Have you ever heard of him? Mm-mm. Dude, and I didn't know people cried together in a big group at the Ryman, right? And so, there was a woman crying on my back because she'd lost a pet.

Speaker 2:
[88:25] You just let her?

Speaker 1:
[88:25] I couldn't do, what am I going to do?

Speaker 2:
[88:28] Just let her.

Speaker 1:
[88:29] She said, just push my legs back if they get up against you, and I was like, all right? But it was special.

Speaker 2:
[88:38] That's a crazy Ryman show.

Speaker 1:
[88:40] It was.

Speaker 2:
[88:40] All right.

Speaker 1:
[88:41] And I saw you at the Ryman. Remember you asked me to sing that part and I got scared.

Speaker 2:
[88:44] Why did you get so scared?

Speaker 1:
[88:46] Because I couldn't remember it all.

Speaker 2:
[88:47] There were words, there's a teleprompter out there with the words on it.

Speaker 1:
[88:51] I didn't know that. Nobody told me that part.

Speaker 2:
[88:53] I did. Yes, I did.

Speaker 1:
[88:55] I would have known. A teleprompter. I know about that. I know about words moving at slow speed in front of me.

Speaker 2:
[89:01] Yeah, there was one with the words on it and everything.

Speaker 1:
[89:04] I didn't know any of that.

Speaker 2:
[89:05] They were like, everyone was like, he was upset. And I was like, well, why?

Speaker 1:
[89:11] I think I was upset. I think I was bummed because I liked the music. And so I wanted to be helpful. And everybody else was helping out. And then I think I just got too nervous. I didn't want to mess it up.

Speaker 2:
[89:25] You would not. You could have come out there and said anything and it would have been good.

Speaker 1:
[89:29] I don't know.

Speaker 2:
[89:29] That's the fun part about that song. I mess up the words all the time.

Speaker 1:
[89:32] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[89:33] All the time.

Speaker 1:
[89:34] You do seem pretty much like you just kind of, you're willing to just roll with it no matter what.

Speaker 2:
[89:37] Hey, this is a special show for y'all. I've never done it like this before. I can't help it. I'm human. I think, you know, in a world of, you don't know what's real or not. Like, I just think going up there and not being afraid to be humble a little bit in that way. I don't want to mess up the words. Like, when I did What I Want with Morgan, I messed up the words almost every single time. I've never been so nervous to go out and do something. Really? I just felt like I could throw up before I walked out there every time. I was like, I just cannot, I could not remember those words. Like, here's me, like, there ain't no hard feelings if you only want to act like lovers do for days.

Speaker 3:
[90:09] Like lovers do.

Speaker 2:
[90:10] And I couldn't stop. I literally just.

Speaker 1:
[90:12] You really?

Speaker 2:
[90:13] I just couldn't, I don't know, and I would have it, but then, all right, POV. You go through this tunnel, you know what I mean? And you're playing in the stadium. It's the most people you've ever been in front of. You're walking out with Morgan Wall and everything gets dark and there's smoke everywhere and you got to walk out and I'm in pointy heels and there's grates out there. So you got to make sure you're not falling down in those. You get up and then here you go. You get one shot at it. There's no practice too, you know? You get one rehearsal, you go out there and it's like, okay, but doing it in front of 80,000 people is different than at 2 p.m. in the middle of the day. But what was awesome is the last time we did it is he came out and messed up the words and I... When he did that, I just started to laugh so hard because he was giving me so much shit about messing up the words. He was just like, you can't come out here and mess this up again. I was like, I might. I really am scared that I might. And so the last night he did and it was like, he just immediately could never say another thing to me about messing up the words again. So that was nice of him if he did that on purpose. He's like, that's what he says now. He's like, that's why I did it. It make you feel better about all the time.

Speaker 1:
[91:22] And he may have, who knows?

Speaker 2:
[91:24] No, because when he looked back at me, it was pure frustration that he couldn't no longer talk shit about me messing up the words.

Speaker 1:
[91:31] That it was even?

Speaker 2:
[91:32] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[91:32] That's hilarious.

Speaker 2:
[91:33] I was like, yes, thank you.

Speaker 1:
[91:36] You'll do a great job on that one. Yeah, let's play one more then. Let's play something else of it. Well, let me think about one more. Let me try and pick one more.

Speaker 2:
[91:43] OK, can I just say yes or no if I think it's a good one?

Speaker 1:
[91:46] Yeah, we'll take that part out.

Speaker 2:
[91:48] OK. Why?

Speaker 1:
[91:51] Because if people, if you say no, it's not a good one. They are.

Speaker 2:
[91:54] But maybe not for this setting.

Speaker 1:
[91:55] Yes, for this setting. That's what I'm thinking about. Bottom of your boots.

Speaker 2:
[92:01] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[92:02] Bang, bro. That was my fricking one that I wanted.

Speaker 2:
[92:06] My dad gave me that title, actually. Yeah. I was like having a freak out one night. It's actually kind of a sweet story. I was like...

Speaker 1:
[92:13] Tell me about it, Dan.

Speaker 2:
[92:14] Well, I mean, he was just giving me one of his like, baby, you know, you're fine. He's like, you know, I love you from the bottom of my boots to the top of my hat. That's a great title. Anyways.

Speaker 1:
[92:24] That's as much of a dad as there is.

Speaker 3:
[92:26] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[92:27] You know, pep talks. That's bottom to top.

Speaker 2:
[92:31] Yeah. Bottom of your boots.

Speaker 1:
[92:34] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[92:36] Yeah. Heck yeah.

Speaker 1:
[94:24] Hello Langley. That's good.

Speaker 2:
[94:29] That's good, that's good in there.

Speaker 1:
[94:30] That's good. Enough slices.

Speaker 2:
[94:32] Enough slices.

Speaker 1:
[94:34] Dude, your brother is a great dancer. That's a beautiful song.

Speaker 2:
[94:36] Dude, but he is dancing, though. I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[94:39] Pretty good, buddy. Heck yeah.

Speaker 2:
[94:42] I told you, he's my hype man.

Speaker 1:
[94:43] Yeah, no, I would get him out there and have him do it. Do you ever do that?

Speaker 2:
[94:48] No, but maybe we should. He's been streaming.

Speaker 1:
[94:51] Has he?

Speaker 2:
[94:52] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[94:53] He's a streamer?

Speaker 2:
[94:53] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[94:54] No.

Speaker 3:
[94:55] I have been streaming Mustache Stew.

Speaker 1:
[94:57] Mustache Stew?

Speaker 3:
[94:59] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[95:00] Yeah, I like that man. There's not a lot of southern streamers really, I don't feel like.

Speaker 3:
[95:05] I know. I feel like, I don't know, I'm getting a lot of exposure, dude. It's been awesome. Mustache Stew, you know, I got the brand, I got the stew, so.

Speaker 1:
[95:13] Type. I like it, dude. And is that a real hat from your sister's album? It is. Oh yeah. I got to get that.

Speaker 2:
[95:19] We bought you some.

Speaker 1:
[95:20] Yeah. Unreleased. Are they? Did you really bring one? Let's go. I can't even wait to fricking put it on whenever I get home. That's a great song. Thanks for letting us play it. And I think, and what a great story to go with it, that it came from your dad saying that to you.

Speaker 2:
[95:39] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[95:39] That's awesome. That's a nice reminder.

Speaker 2:
[95:41] Should we do one more?

Speaker 1:
[95:42] I mean, I will definitely be here for that.

Speaker 3:
[95:46] He picked out a good one.

Speaker 2:
[95:47] I think we should do Broken.

Speaker 1:
[95:49] I'll do it.

Speaker 2:
[95:50] All right. Yes. First course.

Speaker 1:
[95:52] And is it about, well, never mind, I'll just be quiet.

Speaker 2:
[95:58] You're figuring this town out one day at a time, ain't you? Can't you hear this live with the crowd, you know?

Speaker 1:
[97:44] Oh yeah, with their lighters.

Speaker 2:
[97:46] Lighters.

Speaker 1:
[97:48] People holding up pictures of people they lost. Look at them there.

Speaker 2:
[97:51] Literally.

Speaker 1:
[97:54] I want to show you with that lighter. That's pretty close. That's awesome.

Speaker 2:
[98:13] Yeah, a lot of singing choruses on this record. I can feel how proud you are. I thought a lot about wanting people to sing along to these songs. You did.

Speaker 1:
[98:20] You thought about that.

Speaker 2:
[98:21] A lot. I don't know. I just...

Speaker 1:
[98:24] No, it's interesting.

Speaker 2:
[98:25] Sometimes there's so many words in songs that I was like, I cannot remember, but I can remember the melody. So a lot with these songs, I wanted them to be kind of easy to remember. Big singing courses, you hear that course once and you already knew how to sing it.

Speaker 1:
[98:39] Yeah. Yeah, because you want to feel a part of it. I think as a listener, you want to feel a part of it as quick as you can sometimes, especially if you're a fan of somebody. You're like, if it fits you, some of them, certain songs fit certain people better than others.

Speaker 2:
[98:52] Well, maybe you haven't heard all the songs and you just know one or two and then you come to the show, but you can still catch on to songs throughout the show because I hate just standing there. I hate just standing there. I have too much ADHD to just stand there.

Speaker 1:
[99:04] God, and you have to keep getting snacks because you don't know the song. You're like, well, shit, I'll get another snack or whatever.

Speaker 2:
[99:10] Get another pretzel, I guess.

Speaker 1:
[99:11] Yeah, I'll get another pretzel.

Speaker 2:
[99:12] Maybe make it cinnamon this time.

Speaker 1:
[99:14] Yeah, maybe I'll change things up or something and get a damn diet Gatorade or whatever, which they never came out with, which I have written them about. I had this, like Choosin Texas is probably the biggest song everywhere. Apparently, they had like somebody called it. They found an alien or something. He was singing it. I think like there was like a family of aliens they saw somewhere. They saw them singing it. Like it's number one in everything. It's like, you know, it's like the biggest song that's ever happened. Some guy, you see that guy in a coma who kind of wakes up and mumbles one of the lyrics and then goes back into a coma. Yeah, he's like, I'm getting them right back. Right off.

Speaker 2:
[99:54] No, I haven't seen that one.

Speaker 1:
[99:55] There's so many memes to it, though. Have you seen a lot of those?

Speaker 2:
[99:57] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[99:59] Let's can we bring some up? What do you think about all these?

Speaker 2:
[100:02] I think that it's it's whatever people want to do with the song. You know, once I put it out there, it's like, who knows what could happen? And like I said, this is what's going to keep songs alive. You know, it's. It does sound too close. It does sound real close to that.

Speaker 1:
[100:22] Drinking Jack off by myself.

Speaker 2:
[100:23] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[100:24] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[100:25] I think it does. It does. And that like, I'll get songs stuck in my head and parts to it. And I just have that right there stuck in my head, like on repeat over and over again now.

Speaker 1:
[100:35] Just drinking Jack off by myself.

Speaker 2:
[100:36] It's like, Drinking Jack on.

Speaker 1:
[100:38] And have you ever accidentally sung it like that on stage or no?

Speaker 2:
[100:40] I feared that a lot. I really do. Cause I have the thing about me where it's like, I have one specific thing I should not say. And then I'm accidentally going to probably say it. Like I don't know why.

Speaker 1:
[100:50] God, yeah. Cause Satan's tickling you from the inside. Here's one right here. There's Jews in Texas?

Speaker 2:
[101:06] I see a new one all the time.

Speaker 1:
[101:13] Drinking Jackup by myself, there's Jews in Texas, I can tell. And it's just a, see me, a mixed guy at least, possibly a black man, fishing in a suburban man-made pond.

Speaker 2:
[101:25] There's no way that they're fishing that pond right now.

Speaker 1:
[101:27] You don't think?

Speaker 2:
[101:28] No way.

Speaker 1:
[101:29] I don't know, I bet there's some damn missing women in that bitch. Pull up one more.

Speaker 2:
[101:45] My dad loves that one.

Speaker 1:
[101:50] It says, some people can't see it because they're listening. Well, I'm eastbound and down and I can't help but cry because I farted. It says on the screen. So that's what they're saying she said. That's hilarious. Yeah, the only ones I've seen is the Jews in taxes and then drinking Jack off by myself.

Speaker 2:
[102:07] It does. It's like that. You can be my green bean. You remember that thing? You can be my queen bee. Lord. Remember that song?

Speaker 1:
[102:14] Oh.

Speaker 2:
[102:15] And everyone was like, you can be my green.

Speaker 1:
[102:17] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[102:17] Yeah. I used to do that. You can be my queen.

Speaker 1:
[102:22] Life's a pain to pass. You don't want something with us. You say it.

Speaker 2:
[102:30] You can be my green bean.

Speaker 1:
[102:31] Oh, yeah. You could be my green bean.

Speaker 2:
[102:34] But everyone's always say green bean.

Speaker 1:
[102:36] Oh, you could be my green bean. OK, I got to stop, D for some real man shows up and chokes me out. Can we? OK, moving on, Ella Langley. And then your own tour. You have your own tour.

Speaker 2:
[102:51] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[102:51] It's kicking off after or it's in between the one with Toledo, Ohio, with direct support from Morgan kind of back and forth some we start in May, May what?

Speaker 2:
[103:01] May 7th. Where we start? Toledo, Ohio. Toledo, Ohio.

Speaker 1:
[103:06] That's when Vietnam was. Was that where Vietnam was? Or not? I know it wasn't. Sorry. I know Vietnam was on a Toledo. I think Vietnam started May 7th.

Speaker 2:
[103:16] Oh, that's the day I should not.

Speaker 1:
[103:18] It doesn't matter either way at this point. Let's pretend that's not part of this. Well, you got double Marlowe's on it. You got Dylan Marlowe and Cameron Marlowe.

Speaker 2:
[103:27] Not related.

Speaker 1:
[103:29] Two totally different singers, both great.

Speaker 2:
[103:32] Caitlin Butts is on there.

Speaker 1:
[103:34] I'm trying to think if I've heard her before. Can you bring up Caitlin Butts?

Speaker 2:
[103:37] You ain't gotta die to be dead to me. She has an incredible cover of... I went down to Tulsa.

Speaker 1:
[103:48] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[103:49] Yeah, she's incredible. Her voice is incredible. She's so fun. Her songs are fun. She's also really funny.

Speaker 1:
[104:04] She's funny?

Speaker 2:
[104:05] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[104:05] Oh, that's the best. That's good.

Speaker 2:
[104:06] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[104:07] Yeah, one thing about being on tour.

Speaker 2:
[104:08] I love funny girls.

Speaker 1:
[104:08] Being on tour, there's nothing better than a funny girl. A lot of funny girls I notice, and this is something I notice, is that a lot of them are from Philadelphia area.

Speaker 2:
[104:19] I made you notice that.

Speaker 1:
[104:20] I just noticed it, and I believed it.

Speaker 2:
[104:24] Well, that's all you got to do.

Speaker 1:
[104:26] When I noticed it, I believed it.

Speaker 2:
[104:27] And then that's what it is.

Speaker 1:
[104:29] Yeah, sometimes you meet some funny girls from Philadelphia area. But anyway, also, Caitlin Butts, and I look forward to getting to meet her sometime.

Speaker 2:
[104:38] She's really good. And then Gabriella Rose is first of three for almost the whole thing. She's incredible.

Speaker 1:
[104:45] Diplo was telling me something about her, I think.

Speaker 2:
[104:47] She's so good. I believe in her a lot. She's young. And she's still like, you know, finding herself in her artistry and, you know, doing the whole damn thing. But she's so good. And yeah, yeah, yeah. The way she writes, it's like you can tell she means what she says. And then Lacey K. Booth is another one.

Speaker 1:
[105:04] So my god, they are just some good women out there.

Speaker 2:
[105:09] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[105:11] We are glad they're doing it. Well, yeah, we are glad.

Speaker 2:
[105:17] We are glad.

Speaker 1:
[105:19] Sorry, I don't know. Is this the weirdest interview? Is it OK, guys?

Speaker 3:
[105:23] It's awesome.

Speaker 1:
[105:24] Those guys are perverts, both of them. Ella, thanks so much for hanging out with us.

Speaker 2:
[105:31] Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1:
[105:32] I appreciate it. Congratulations on all of your success on everything that's going on and just learning to like figure it out because I think that's one thing that everybody's trying to do. I think sometimes people think that like people like it are in some sort of limelight or going through some sort of like popularity or exposure or fame that they...

Speaker 2:
[105:49] There's like a conductor behind the stage that's like telling you what to do every second in the day.

Speaker 1:
[105:53] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[105:54] No. Sadly, ours is in there. Can you imagine what our conductors look like too in there? It's a mess.

Speaker 1:
[106:02] If they pulled out whoever lives in my head from behind a building, from behind a building and they're like, look what we found back there, I would like fucking hang him from the nearest rope, bro.

Speaker 2:
[106:15] Have you ever watched the Inside Out movie?

Speaker 1:
[106:16] And he wouldn't have pants on, I bet.

Speaker 2:
[106:18] Probably.

Speaker 1:
[106:19] You're like, wait, you're telling me the guy in my head...

Speaker 2:
[106:22] Has never had pants on.

Speaker 1:
[106:23] Has never had pants on. The officer's like, he doesn't own pants. The officer's like, well, what?

Speaker 2:
[106:27] We can't afford pants?

Speaker 1:
[106:29] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[106:29] Oh, God.

Speaker 1:
[106:32] Have I ever watched the Inside Out movie?

Speaker 2:
[106:34] Yeah. It was like the characters that live in your brain, the cartoons. You would love this movie. I actually think that you would. It's incredible.

Speaker 1:
[106:41] I never seen this.

Speaker 2:
[106:42] You should. You should see it with your eyes. It's very good.

Speaker 1:
[106:45] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[106:47] It's like about all these characters, like they all are like, it's like sad, mad. There's like one main girl and then there's like a, I don't know what the other one is. Joy.

Speaker 1:
[106:57] Yeah. There's some anger discussed.

Speaker 2:
[106:58] Oh, I see. I see all of them. They're all labeled up there.

Speaker 1:
[107:02] Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:
[107:03] Anyway, it's just always made me think about that.

Speaker 1:
[107:05] I appreciate that.

Speaker 2:
[107:07] Welcome. Just something for later on the plane, whenever you're on a plane.

Speaker 1:
[107:10] Yeah. After I get done listening to Dandelion then, Yeah. I'll put on Inside Out. I'm sure the people sitting next to you are like, this guy's going through a lot.

Speaker 2:
[107:20] If someone came up on you watching that, they'd be like, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[107:23] Probably. It's kind of crazy that that's where we're at now. If an adult came up on another adult watching a fucking cartoon, they'd be like, yeah, man, you do. Everything's fine.

Speaker 2:
[107:31] He must be having a hard day.

Speaker 1:
[107:33] It's a crazy world. So you're going to be on tour for a bit, then? You won't get to go back home for a while? Or do you have a set date we're going to go back home? Will you be home for Easter? Will you be home for?

Speaker 2:
[107:41] Yeah. I'm going to go home for Easter.

Speaker 1:
[107:43] And then, Will you go back to the church that you grew up in?

Speaker 2:
[107:47] No, no. I kind of, well, we moved to a different place. My parents just sold that house, actually. They closed down like a week or two ago.

Speaker 1:
[107:55] Oh, nice.

Speaker 2:
[107:55] Yeah. But yeah, I just bought a house back there on a lake. And I don't want to say where, because people already come up on their boats and stuff playing my music. It's kind of funny.

Speaker 1:
[108:05] People are perverts. People are seafaring perverts.

Speaker 2:
[108:08] But it's not. It's a small town. You know what I mean? They're like, yeah, they're cool. There's like the closest. It's like a Piggly Wiggly and a DG there, you know?

Speaker 1:
[108:16] Oh, yeah. I mean, people used to pull up by our apartments and steal all the ditch onions that were out there.

Speaker 2:
[108:21] I never. What?

Speaker 1:
[108:22] You haven't?

Speaker 2:
[108:23] I have never.

Speaker 1:
[108:24] Oh, they got ditch onions out there. And congratulations on Choosin Texas as a number one. It's a number one for.

Speaker 2:
[108:35] This is so many. I don't even. It's too many slices. Too many things. It's actually crazy.

Speaker 1:
[108:41] It's a number one for everything. I think it just came out on the moon. It's the first number one on the moon, I think.

Speaker 2:
[108:46] Yeah, I don't really know. That would be nuts. No, yeah, I don't know. It's just so weird to believe that that's like a song. That's my song?

Speaker 1:
[108:56] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[108:57] What?

Speaker 1:
[108:58] I know it's hard to feel attached to things that you do sometimes.

Speaker 2:
[109:01] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[109:01] I think.

Speaker 2:
[109:02] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[109:02] I think that that makes good sense. Well, maybe that's one of the things that makes you you, but whatever the things are that make you you, they're enjoyable to witness. So thank you for spending time with us. Thank you for your music. There's so many people I know that love it, and then it brings joy to their life. And I'm glad I got to meet Mustache Stew. And yeah, when I need some photos and my conditioner sets, I'm going to call you and Dan get something swell going on.

Speaker 2:
[109:30] Something swell.

Speaker 1:
[109:31] Yeah, something swell. Ella Langley, thank you.

Speaker 2:
[109:35] Thank you for having me on here.

Speaker 1:
[109:37] Yes, ma'am.