title Episode 915 | "21 Shots"

description The latest episode from the JBP kicks off with reactions to the Tank & Tyrese Verzuz on Thursday night (26:54) before getting to new music from Fetty Wap, The LOX, & Jozzy (1:07:12). The crew then has a conversation about disciplining kids (1:41:55), J. Cole sits down with Cam'ron (1:53:07), and Marc shares his thoughts following Usher's comments about Puff (2:04:59). Also, the internet reacts to the Bob Barker episode of the TV show 'Dirty Rotten Scandals' (2:17:34), Kandi Burruss' divorce settlement (2:34:27), the Senate approves funding for TSA (2:46:03), Ayesha Curry's apology to Steph (2:56:08), **SPOILER ALERT** Paradise Season 2's finale is around the corner (3:10:43), and much more!
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pubDate Sat, 28 Mar 2026 00:59:24 GMT

author The Joe Budden Network

duration 12910000

transcript

Speaker 1:
[00:00] The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best interests at heart or our own.

Speaker 2:
[00:32] Hell of a start.

Speaker 1:
[00:34] Oh, I thought that was our start. Say it again.

Speaker 3:
[00:36] I'm in a silly, goofy mood, guys.

Speaker 1:
[00:38] Samezies. Good morning. Samezies.

Speaker 2:
[00:41] The energy seems to be hot today.

Speaker 3:
[00:43] Yeah, super excited.

Speaker 1:
[00:44] Yes, sir. Baby free weekend. My girl got on a plane finally.

Speaker 2:
[00:52] Uh-oh.

Speaker 4:
[00:53] Uh-oh.

Speaker 3:
[00:54] She got on a plane coming?

Speaker 1:
[00:55] Couple of managers' birthdays at the strip club this weekend. Hired some new hoes.

Speaker 5:
[01:04] Uh-oh.

Speaker 6:
[01:05] Uh-oh.

Speaker 7:
[01:06] What the manager's going to do?

Speaker 6:
[01:07] Uh-oh. I stopped at Chase.

Speaker 8:
[01:09] You know what I mean?

Speaker 6:
[01:12] I walked up in Chase. Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[01:15] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[01:15] Let me get 5K.

Speaker 1:
[01:18] Big bills only. You know me so well. That know me well.

Speaker 6:
[01:23] What's up, y'all? What's up?

Speaker 2:
[01:25] Chillin. How you feelin?

Speaker 9:
[01:26] I'm unhappy.

Speaker 2:
[01:27] You're unhappy.

Speaker 9:
[01:29] B-Dot.

Speaker 2:
[01:31] Damn, you choked up.

Speaker 9:
[01:32] Yeah, man. B-Dot started this morning out of pocket.

Speaker 3:
[01:35] What did I do? Yeah, it was crazy. I didn't know when we could start the B-Dot shit.

Speaker 9:
[01:38] No, we started right now.

Speaker 3:
[01:39] Yeah. It's, you know, B-Dot's attitude has really gotten out of hand in arrogance. You know? It's like we welcome him with open arms.

Speaker 9:
[01:46] Like we always do.

Speaker 3:
[01:47] You take him to his seats. You know, telling the boss that you late. You know what I mean? Three minutes late. He's like, oh, you see how late she is?

Speaker 5:
[01:54] This corny shit.

Speaker 9:
[01:55] But that's not just for the record.

Speaker 1:
[01:58] I'd be here to see to see who's late in the news.

Speaker 3:
[02:02] All right.

Speaker 9:
[02:04] Thank you.

Speaker 10:
[02:04] Sorry.

Speaker 9:
[02:05] But the worst part is, again, I'm glad you're here.

Speaker 10:
[02:09] Thank you.

Speaker 9:
[02:10] But then you're sitting in the seat.

Speaker 3:
[02:12] It's crazy.

Speaker 10:
[02:13] It's a good seat, man.

Speaker 9:
[02:13] Yeah. You know why? Because somebody has made it a good seat. They've warmed up that seat for five years. Exactly. And then the brother came over respectfully.

Speaker 3:
[02:24] Right.

Speaker 9:
[02:25] He said, excuse me.

Speaker 10:
[02:26] Oh, he didn't say that.

Speaker 3:
[02:27] He said, excuse me, King.

Speaker 10:
[02:28] No, he said, let me get here.

Speaker 2:
[02:29] He said, get the out of the day room or run Rikers or something. Get the fuck out of my seat, brother.

Speaker 10:
[02:34] Like, trying to hurt me.

Speaker 1:
[02:35] So if he would have asked nicer.

Speaker 10:
[02:38] I'm just saying. I didn't know we were playing musical chairs.

Speaker 7:
[02:40] We're not doing that on my name. I didn't say that.

Speaker 10:
[02:42] I didn't know.

Speaker 3:
[02:43] I got you.

Speaker 6:
[02:44] Did you only do that when I start talking?

Speaker 1:
[02:46] Marc been being nasty this whole time.

Speaker 7:
[02:48] I'm talking to everybody. I wasn't talking to you.

Speaker 11:
[02:51] I said you were respectful.

Speaker 5:
[02:53] Whatever we got to do, bro.

Speaker 10:
[02:56] What's that supposed to mean?

Speaker 7:
[02:57] Welcome to The Joe Budden Podcast.

Speaker 9:
[02:59] It says The Joe Budden Podcast.

Speaker 3:
[03:01] He said he had a shank, man.

Speaker 9:
[03:03] We weren't happy with it. We just think, in all seriousness, I think you should switch seats.

Speaker 1:
[03:06] B-Dot got some of that smug Park shit.

Speaker 3:
[03:10] And B-Dot has a weapon on him. B-Dot has a shank. He admitted it.

Speaker 9:
[03:14] My weapon is a smile. It's just from Jersey. He got like seven shanks.

Speaker 8:
[03:17] It's a smile.

Speaker 1:
[03:18] You think that works, too.

Speaker 8:
[03:19] That works, too.

Speaker 6:
[03:21] Hi, you're a pretty lady.

Speaker 3:
[03:24] No, also, do you think that we've welcomed you well?

Speaker 5:
[03:27] Made you feel a little...

Speaker 10:
[03:28] Yeah, I've known Joe since I was in college for 20-plus years. So it's a comfortability here.

Speaker 3:
[03:32] I told you.

Speaker 1:
[03:33] The show can't work without friendship.

Speaker 3:
[03:35] Nah, fuck that. He's trying to use that college shit against us. Keep your eyes on him.

Speaker 9:
[03:38] Watch them guys.

Speaker 10:
[03:40] It's true. I feel good. I feel comfortable.

Speaker 9:
[03:42] I feel more comfortable with Ish sitting here.

Speaker 10:
[03:44] You do?

Speaker 9:
[03:44] Yeah, honestly, I do. It throws off my rhythm.

Speaker 10:
[03:47] Fuck your couch then, See?

Speaker 9:
[03:49] See the disrespect?

Speaker 3:
[03:50] He's so beautiful, he makes Marc even cuter. I don't know. I'm just so used to that green.

Speaker 1:
[03:57] Nah, I seen some of the ladies that like dark skin men, unlike you, they were talking out there. And we were like, oh shit, Marc and Beat Out is giving me my chocolate milk flavor. I blocked them bitches.

Speaker 8:
[04:11] Blocked them bitches.

Speaker 4:
[04:12] I love that shit, man.

Speaker 6:
[04:15] Flip, yes sir, what up, boy?

Speaker 12:
[04:17] Chillin man, I'm just paying attention to what's going on.

Speaker 1:
[04:19] My mans, they go my mans right there.

Speaker 12:
[04:21] Just paying attention to what's going on, man. I'm gonna let it out a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[04:25] Good to see my brother Flip, man.

Speaker 12:
[04:27] Talk over it, talk over it. I'm just paying attention to what's going on. There's a lot of effery, I got a gang curse. There's a lot of effery going on over here. Sandwiches for all you. Sandwiches. Sandwiches.

Speaker 3:
[04:38] Yeah. Knuckles.

Speaker 12:
[04:40] Yeah.

Speaker 9:
[04:40] That's what you meant, knuckle sandwiches?

Speaker 12:
[04:42] All types. What's up, Marc? How y'all doing, man?

Speaker 9:
[04:45] I'm great, man. I'm happy to see you, man.

Speaker 2:
[04:46] The tension is really thick.

Speaker 9:
[04:48] I love you.

Speaker 12:
[04:48] I got it.

Speaker 11:
[04:49] Marc, you're so big.

Speaker 12:
[04:51] We came in here jolly.

Speaker 9:
[04:53] We did.

Speaker 12:
[04:53] And then it just took one person to say one thing. That's how it started. Then now we start to watch things. Brother sitting in my man's sizzle.

Speaker 9:
[05:01] Not happy with that. I'm really not.

Speaker 10:
[05:03] I knew he had a seat.

Speaker 12:
[05:03] We skipped down the hallway.

Speaker 1:
[05:05] And wearing the dark, wearing his favorite color, but darker. Like he be doing the MWAH, but whatever that pink shit is. Now you got the dark skinned MWAH.

Speaker 10:
[05:14] Yeah, kind of set a thrift store.

Speaker 8:
[05:17] Fuck out of here.

Speaker 12:
[05:20] Now it feels good to be here, man. Shout out to everybody.

Speaker 1:
[05:22] I got a really dumb question for you all.

Speaker 2:
[05:24] Please.

Speaker 1:
[05:25] And you can chime in too, Mona, but it's like a dude question.

Speaker 3:
[05:28] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[05:30] Y'all see when the porno girls like are giving fellatio?

Speaker 2:
[05:35] Sure. Familiar.

Speaker 1:
[05:37] And when they put a dude, the whole dude, in their mouth, and be like, but his whole dick is in there.

Speaker 9:
[05:44] How do they do it?

Speaker 5:
[05:44] His paw.

Speaker 9:
[05:48] Just one more time.

Speaker 6:
[05:51] See, but y'all know what I'm talking about, when she put like a dude, whole dick in her mouth, and she's like, oh, it disappeared. And she look up and be talking to you.

Speaker 1:
[06:02] Y'all like that? Do y'all like when that's done to you?

Speaker 2:
[06:07] Deep throw? I mean, it's overrated, honestly.

Speaker 9:
[06:10] But it's overrated.

Speaker 10:
[06:11] I like. If it's done right, it's a commitment.

Speaker 12:
[06:14] No gag reflexes yet.

Speaker 3:
[06:15] Are you asking them, do they like to be deep throated?

Speaker 1:
[06:18] I'm asking them if that's fly to them, like when they do that.

Speaker 11:
[06:22] If it's done right. If it's done right.

Speaker 3:
[06:24] Off the gumbus. Wow.

Speaker 10:
[06:27] It shows effort.

Speaker 12:
[06:29] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[06:30] Don't make my shit disappear. That's what I'm saying. Don't make my shit disappear just off the rip. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah. Make me feel like I'm up in this beat. Don't just fucking.

Speaker 6:
[06:50] Yeah, nah.

Speaker 1:
[06:52] You're not joking if the whole thing is in there, bitch. You're lying. Something is contradictory in this shit. Don't make me disappear.

Speaker 4:
[07:00] I don't know. I just want to talk to y'all about it.

Speaker 1:
[07:03] Y'all like that shit.

Speaker 4:
[07:04] Freak ass hoes.

Speaker 5:
[07:05] That's a wild ass question.

Speaker 10:
[07:07] Hell of a segue.

Speaker 9:
[07:08] Well, I feel like I can ask this now. I was reading this story the other day about they were saying the way to prevent prostate cancer is to ejaculate at least 21 times a month. Did y'all see this story?

Speaker 6:
[07:18] Oh, I'm Gucci.

Speaker 2:
[07:18] Done and done.

Speaker 6:
[07:21] I'm killing the game.

Speaker 9:
[07:26] You clear that bar? What?

Speaker 3:
[07:28] Parks said done and done.

Speaker 5:
[07:30] You?

Speaker 3:
[07:34] Are y'all being honest?

Speaker 9:
[07:35] Yes.

Speaker 12:
[07:36] If you don't clear it with the wife, man, you got this lotion there.

Speaker 9:
[07:40] You got staff.

Speaker 12:
[07:43] He jerk on standing up, I go, hook or crook?

Speaker 9:
[07:49] Okay. So most of y'all, most of this is the hand. It's not. Y'all like, it's whatever we want.

Speaker 12:
[07:54] No judgment.

Speaker 9:
[07:54] I'm just asking.

Speaker 1:
[07:55] Whatever we got to do. No, no.

Speaker 12:
[07:56] Why you doing that, Marc?

Speaker 9:
[07:58] It was a segue.

Speaker 12:
[08:00] Stop.

Speaker 6:
[08:00] It's the hand.

Speaker 12:
[08:01] Make it right and go get some, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 6:
[08:03] Stop.

Speaker 12:
[08:03] I'm good.

Speaker 9:
[08:04] I just say I wasn't good. I just was asking.

Speaker 1:
[08:05] Nobody in here is trying to say that they fucking 21 times.

Speaker 12:
[08:09] Okay.

Speaker 1:
[08:09] A month.

Speaker 9:
[08:10] How much of that is from, how much of that is from, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2:
[08:14] Depends on the month.

Speaker 9:
[08:15] Okay.

Speaker 2:
[08:18] Just like business. Sometimes you have a good month.

Speaker 9:
[08:24] It's been a good month. For you, be that.

Speaker 10:
[08:26] No, 21 is kind of excessive, but we're okay.

Speaker 9:
[08:30] Where's your number closer to?

Speaker 10:
[08:32] Fuck you, a prostate exam?

Speaker 2:
[08:34] Whoa. That's invasive.

Speaker 9:
[08:36] That was a lot.

Speaker 12:
[08:38] See, too much depth.

Speaker 3:
[08:39] Write this thing up.

Speaker 9:
[08:42] Moan, if it was for girls, you had to 21 times.

Speaker 3:
[08:45] I would be dead.

Speaker 13:
[08:46] I would have to have to.

Speaker 8:
[08:48] I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3:
[08:49] I would have kicked the bucket already. 21 is crazy.

Speaker 11:
[08:55] Like what?

Speaker 1:
[08:56] I'm playing 21 with the ease. We're ruining the space.

Speaker 2:
[09:00] Halfway through the month.

Speaker 1:
[09:01] Halfway through the week.

Speaker 3:
[09:03] You jerk off every day?

Speaker 1:
[09:04] Let me get a week.

Speaker 2:
[09:05] Huh?

Speaker 3:
[09:05] You jerk off every day?

Speaker 1:
[09:06] Not right after my girl leaves.

Speaker 8:
[09:08] Shit.

Speaker 2:
[09:10] That's the time.

Speaker 3:
[09:13] That's my boy. He honest.

Speaker 1:
[09:14] No. I'd be sexed out. I'd be needing a break from all that shit. Like get out of here.

Speaker 7:
[09:19] But on that good day?

Speaker 1:
[09:20] But after a week?

Speaker 2:
[09:22] A day with nothing to do?

Speaker 3:
[09:24] Like tonight?

Speaker 7:
[09:25] Shortly after baby leave, you could just get you a good jerk off.

Speaker 9:
[09:28] Oh, that'd be the best one.

Speaker 12:
[09:29] Hey, yo, do you think that your girl's got an issue with y'all just jerking off, especially by the house?

Speaker 9:
[09:34] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[09:35] That is so stupid.

Speaker 1:
[09:36] Yeah, I think so. No, it's not. Cause she'd be trying to relate it to my sex drive when she's all this bullshit.

Speaker 2:
[09:43] It's different, yo.

Speaker 3:
[09:44] It's totally different.

Speaker 6:
[09:45] It's very different.

Speaker 2:
[09:47] One's a workout, one is not.

Speaker 1:
[09:49] Well, I tried to explain that and she just keeps coming back with every four months.

Speaker 3:
[09:52] That's a great way to explain to a woman. Do I want to do cardio or not?

Speaker 9:
[09:58] Just getting some shots up.

Speaker 2:
[09:59] Yeah, that's it. I still have medical needs, but I'm not trying to...

Speaker 1:
[10:05] Come by myself or tussle with this fucking 200 pound demon.

Speaker 3:
[10:11] But you know, honestly, I emulate that on stage like sex and it wears me out. I don't know how y'all do that. Like on stage, I'll emulate like a woman. And I couldn't imagine doing that for, what y'all, four minutes being nice to you. But I couldn't imagine doing that for four and a half minutes. It's so much work. Just pounding, pounding, pounding.

Speaker 2:
[10:33] It's a spread.

Speaker 3:
[10:34] Oh God, I would get a Charlie horse.

Speaker 11:
[10:36] We do.

Speaker 2:
[10:36] Yeah, it happens.

Speaker 9:
[10:38] In game, you gotta fight through it.

Speaker 2:
[10:39] You gotta get a lot of electrolytes, fight through what?

Speaker 5:
[10:41] You give it all you got and it's hard.

Speaker 11:
[10:43] You're going to do it.

Speaker 5:
[10:44] No.

Speaker 9:
[10:45] Let me try to get a post.

Speaker 6:
[10:46] You're crazy.

Speaker 5:
[10:47] In game injury, man. It depends on the position.

Speaker 2:
[10:49] It depends on the position.

Speaker 5:
[10:50] Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3:
[10:51] I guess you have to build that up through the years. You get better at that, but that's a lot of work.

Speaker 2:
[10:55] But then it goes back down. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 3:
[10:57] Right. That's a lot.

Speaker 7:
[10:59] That's a real cardio.

Speaker 2:
[11:00] It is, for sure.

Speaker 4:
[11:01] Seriously.

Speaker 2:
[11:02] I worry about Apple Watch.

Speaker 4:
[11:03] Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[11:04] I keep dragging that. Count my calories.

Speaker 11:
[11:07] I count your steps.

Speaker 3:
[11:10] All the work is on you almost.

Speaker 7:
[11:12] Yeah, don't say it.

Speaker 1:
[11:13] Yeah. I told her the other day, you want to do that challenge with a girl, just like you said, with a girl that's emulating a guy and just see how much energy it takes. Yeah, I'll do it if you emulate me. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[11:25] I'll smack the shit out of you.

Speaker 9:
[11:28] You're always saying some stupid shit.

Speaker 3:
[11:29] Girls don't even ride dick.

Speaker 2:
[11:30] Now, you seen the DTFSDL where she was in the hot tub.

Speaker 6:
[11:35] That's your man.

Speaker 5:
[11:36] That's your man.

Speaker 6:
[11:37] That's me.

Speaker 1:
[11:47] What a great show.

Speaker 2:
[11:48] That shit is wild.

Speaker 7:
[11:49] You be grabbing the thing. No, you get him to the end of the table.

Speaker 2:
[11:56] I see that.

Speaker 4:
[11:57] Yo, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[11:59] I'm old now, so I won't even forget to turn the heat off. That heat beyond 83. Heated mattress. Whoever's on top is choking. We do ID Clearwater to figure that shit out. Rock, paper, scissors. Anyway, enough about our fucking horniness.

Speaker 9:
[14:09] Brooklyn, what up out there? Queens, what up? Bronx, what up?

Speaker 13:
[19:14] Rest in peace, Freak it out.

Speaker 1:
[19:18] All right, after this, I'm done. After this, I'm done.

Speaker 13:
[19:19] We can start.

Speaker 1:
[19:22] I figured we was gonna start with R&B, might as well put some hip-hop shit on for a second.

Speaker 2:
[19:26] Here we go.

Speaker 1:
[19:33] Another song that I wish I had a car on. This is my favorite album.

Speaker 7:
[19:40] That's an amazing album.

Speaker 2:
[19:43] This goes to that classic album conversation. Is this a classic album? I think so, but a lot of people don't.

Speaker 9:
[19:52] This, Renee, I mean, this is what she got.

Speaker 1:
[19:53] Classic. How many songs on this album?

Speaker 7:
[19:57] 12, 13, and like eight singles.

Speaker 10:
[20:00] Yeah, Queenzflip.

Speaker 1:
[20:01] Everything was a single of this mother. Renee was a hit twice. Maybe three times, if I think long enough.

Speaker 2:
[20:10] This song was in there a couple of times. Yep.

Speaker 6:
[20:19] Come on, man.

Speaker 10:
[20:22] He didn't react the way I thought he would to that song, man. I'm disappointed.

Speaker 1:
[20:26] What'd you say?

Speaker 10:
[20:27] Flipped in and reacted the way I thought he would to that song.

Speaker 1:
[20:29] On some Queen shit, right?

Speaker 10:
[20:31] It's before his time.

Speaker 1:
[20:32] It's before him. It's before him. Mike Shack, man, let me keep this applause going for the best crew in the world. The gang is all here. Gang is all here. Looking good, smelling good. Fleming on the flip. All right.

Speaker 4:
[20:48] We cool.

Speaker 1:
[20:49] The Philly part of this podcast just be swallowing the flim on some they don't rush to the sink.

Speaker 7:
[21:26] Who is that?

Speaker 12:
[21:28] Pussling, Pussling, Pussling.

Speaker 6:
[21:30] And Flip and Mona and B.Dodd.

Speaker 1:
[21:35] B.Dodd. B.Dodd. Mike Shack, one two one two. What episode? Oh, 915, right? Yes, sir. Welcome to episode 915 of the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Budden here with some really amazing people to my right.

Speaker 11:
[21:49] Huh?

Speaker 1:
[21:49] The definition of punctual.

Speaker 2:
[21:53] Put the punk in punctual.

Speaker 11:
[21:54] Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6:
[21:54] Brooke, do you buy a few?

Speaker 1:
[21:56] Buy a power buy, price picks, price picks. Gang, you're to my right. Miss fucking on time herself. Miss as punctual as she want to be. Don't call her white girl. Big Demona in the building. How you doing, Mona?

Speaker 3:
[22:10] I'm great.

Speaker 1:
[22:11] Good. You look great.

Speaker 3:
[22:12] Thank you.

Speaker 1:
[22:13] Next to her, you know the vibes, man. Philadelphia is only, well, not only, because Umar is out there killing us. Our good brother, Dr. Dark Lamont Hill is in the building. Marc, how you doing, man?

Speaker 9:
[22:26] I'm great. I'm great.

Speaker 1:
[22:27] Good. Absolutely. Let me see what his hoodies say to see what sponsors we might lose today.

Speaker 2:
[22:31] Just hope dealer. That's safe, I think. Good. Although there's probably an alternate meaning or something.

Speaker 9:
[22:40] If you re-scratch the words, it says Free Palestine for the River Texas City.

Speaker 6:
[22:46] Next to Marc, we have fucking Queenz's finest, I guess, big B-Dot.

Speaker 1:
[22:52] B-Dot's in the building, man. How you doing, B-Dot?

Speaker 10:
[22:54] I'm feeling comfortable like a couch potato.

Speaker 6:
[22:58] We're going to slide you.

Speaker 1:
[22:59] We're going to slide you.

Speaker 3:
[23:00] When are we jumping this?

Speaker 1:
[23:01] Keep talking about your comfort levels in my man's seat.

Speaker 10:
[23:04] I'm going to call Elliot, man.

Speaker 1:
[23:06] Shout out to Elliot, man, if you're out there listening. Next to B-Dot. Come on, man. Mr. Thousand Doors and Up. You know the vibes when you see him. King Wawa, Big Ish in the building, man. How you doing, Ish? I'm great, sir. Good, good. Couldn't be better. Next to him. Come on, man. Come on, man.

Speaker 12:
[23:22] Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Queenz in the building.

Speaker 1:
[23:24] Queenz get the money.

Speaker 12:
[23:26] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[23:26] Big Queenz Flip in the building on a Friday. Stop fucking playing around with us, man. How you doing, Flip? I'm good, man. Yeah, I'm good. Good, good. You looking good? Who's this guy on your shirt? Marcus Garvey. I got to check y'all shirts out.

Speaker 3:
[23:38] Marcus Garvey would have seen the bracelet next to his neck.

Speaker 1:
[23:41] No, I couldn't do that.

Speaker 6:
[23:42] I don't know.

Speaker 1:
[23:42] Marcus Garvey.

Speaker 11:
[23:43] Y'all can't shame me.

Speaker 6:
[23:45] No, I don't.

Speaker 11:
[23:45] No.

Speaker 3:
[23:48] Yes, he does, everybody.

Speaker 9:
[23:49] He knows who Marcus Garvey is. This your pride.

Speaker 6:
[23:52] Y'all want me to name some more? I have no idea what they look like. The audience shouldn't be shocked.

Speaker 8:
[24:00] No, we're not going to do that right now.

Speaker 1:
[24:01] Shout out to Marcus Garvey. Rest in peace. He's dead, right?

Speaker 6:
[24:03] Oh, shit.

Speaker 1:
[24:07] I just do shit.

Speaker 2:
[24:07] Look at Marc.

Speaker 5:
[24:10] Look at Marc having a heart attack.

Speaker 1:
[24:12] Marc about to slide me.

Speaker 2:
[24:13] You got just more hope.

Speaker 11:
[24:16] You're selling no hope next year.

Speaker 1:
[24:18] Next to Flip, we have Elmira's very own Big Parks in the building. Parks, you doing all right?

Speaker 2:
[24:24] Feeling great, man.

Speaker 1:
[24:25] Good, good, good. Next to him, we got White Poe here. We got Cory here. We got Imani here who wanted to come in early for some of this Tank vs. Tyrese stuff, but we got a lot of mics. We do. We'll cover that topic, man. We'll cover it. Oh, n***a, f**k you. If you got something to say, man, text it to one of us over here.

Speaker 3:
[24:45] Hey, Mimi.

Speaker 1:
[24:47] Who else is here? Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. No, no, no. Tanner is here. Oh, s**t. Tanner is here.

Speaker 2:
[24:53] Dressed to the nines.

Speaker 1:
[24:54] Tanner is here.

Speaker 9:
[24:55] Oh, is that Tanner? I just saw a white guy in his suit and got nervous.

Speaker 11:
[24:59] Yeah, I was like, we being hard in it.

Speaker 3:
[25:04] And he's going, hey, how are you? I'm fine, n***a, how are you?

Speaker 12:
[25:09] You ain't going next to that n***a.

Speaker 9:
[25:12] I don't take the look right. I saw a white dude in his suit. I could say right the f**k out here.

Speaker 3:
[25:14] I started to throw a cup of water on the n***a.

Speaker 6:
[25:16] I let it go.

Speaker 4:
[25:20] Oh, man, yo.

Speaker 1:
[25:21] Let's see if he shrink like a slug, right?

Speaker 3:
[25:23] No, to see if he's wired, n***a.

Speaker 11:
[25:26] Look what f**k you win.

Speaker 12:
[25:28] Look what you win.

Speaker 3:
[25:29] He said, dude, see if he shrink like a slug.

Speaker 12:
[25:31] He thought she was being...

Speaker 6:
[25:31] Pause.

Speaker 12:
[25:33] She's not Mark. She ain't going to say no slick s**t. That s**t not right.

Speaker 3:
[25:37] Crazy.

Speaker 11:
[25:38] How I catch that straight?

Speaker 5:
[25:40] Because everybody gets it.

Speaker 11:
[25:42] She got three minutes. No, no, we're all here against B.Dot. They focused.

Speaker 3:
[25:45] And this is the thing, and listen, because I'm not done with B.Dot a**, y'all never said that we was allowed to do a little dance moves and shit. Now he got dance moves.

Speaker 11:
[25:53] No, we can do dance moves.

Speaker 3:
[25:54] Pay attention.

Speaker 10:
[25:54] It's encouraged.

Speaker 3:
[25:55] Okay, all right, yeah, next week.

Speaker 1:
[25:57] We never said you could do things to make the show entertaining.

Speaker 10:
[26:01] What, you want to do like a percolator or something?

Speaker 3:
[26:03] I said little dance moves.

Speaker 1:
[26:05] You mean like to make people watch the visual? You can get up and dance, shake something.

Speaker 3:
[26:08] Shut up, Joe.

Speaker 10:
[26:09] Shake something.

Speaker 3:
[26:10] B.Dot covered it already.

Speaker 12:
[26:11] Leave her alone.

Speaker 10:
[26:12] You can do the Wu-Tang next week.

Speaker 8:
[26:14] That's what I'm feeling, right?

Speaker 3:
[26:15] This, okay. All right, all right.

Speaker 1:
[26:17] Again, you guys, remember, we're being kind to our guest.

Speaker 3:
[26:23] Why?

Speaker 1:
[26:24] I'm not feeling the love right now.

Speaker 9:
[26:25] Who's the guest?

Speaker 3:
[26:25] Is he a guest?

Speaker 9:
[26:26] It's not a guest.

Speaker 1:
[26:26] B.Dot is our guest. I know we normally don't make new people feel warm and snuggly.

Speaker 9:
[26:32] Oh, that is a fact.

Speaker 1:
[26:33] So we're trying to, you know what I mean? I'll fuck you up.

Speaker 3:
[26:36] Y'all made me feel warm and snuggly.

Speaker 9:
[26:37] Oh, good. Good.

Speaker 1:
[26:38] I love that.

Speaker 12:
[26:39] You see the man, Parks?

Speaker 1:
[26:40] Hey, tape clip that up in case we need it for future usage.

Speaker 6:
[26:44] Sure.

Speaker 1:
[26:46] Can never be too short.

Speaker 6:
[26:49] What's up, y'all?

Speaker 1:
[26:50] I did all the intro shit, right? We cool, right?

Speaker 6:
[26:52] We good. Let's get to talking shit.

Speaker 1:
[26:55] Come on, Tank vs.

Speaker 6:
[26:56] Tyrese Verzuz.

Speaker 1:
[26:58] I turned it on my Apple TV too early. It never started on time. Now I got to look at interviews and all types of shit. I hate when I do shit.

Speaker 2:
[27:05] The Hulks was doing their best to try to hype that crowd up. I turned that shit off for a little bit.

Speaker 1:
[27:09] Yeah, and I rushed through. I had a stretch appointment at 7.30 to 8.30.

Speaker 2:
[27:14] Stretch appointment, huh?

Speaker 1:
[27:15] So I'm rushing it.

Speaker 2:
[27:15] Try to get that 21 out.

Speaker 1:
[27:19] No, no, not that type of stuff.

Speaker 12:
[27:21] It's the end of the month.

Speaker 1:
[27:27] Yo, Parks, the streets are saying you're coming for my chain.

Speaker 8:
[27:30] Oh, man, yo.

Speaker 2:
[27:31] It would look good on me, I think.

Speaker 12:
[27:33] Parks' body in it, I would support that.

Speaker 1:
[27:35] I'm seeing way too much Parks' name at the end of the month. This is normally my man. But yeah, they're trying to give him my chain, it feels like.

Speaker 9:
[27:44] I feel like now that it is, I think I'm kind of out the race. I'm definitely not in the top three. I feel like everybody who was going to vote for me should just vote for Parks. Everybody who was going to vote for me should just vote for Parks.

Speaker 1:
[27:56] That ain't before people anyway. You had a bad one.

Speaker 11:
[27:58] Okay, we'll see.

Speaker 9:
[27:59] I think we should just funnel all the support.

Speaker 6:
[28:00] No, Marc said he didn't.

Speaker 12:
[28:01] No, he's not in the top three, so he's trying to go live with Parks.

Speaker 11:
[28:06] We don't need your votes.

Speaker 1:
[28:07] Which is dangerous.

Speaker 8:
[28:08] Who is we?

Speaker 12:
[28:09] We don't need your votes.

Speaker 1:
[28:10] That's what people accuse you of doing with your real vote.

Speaker 9:
[28:16] That's a good joke.

Speaker 8:
[28:16] That was good.

Speaker 1:
[28:18] Jill Stein.

Speaker 9:
[28:20] We got it.

Speaker 4:
[28:21] No, no, I'm over there.

Speaker 6:
[28:22] I'm fighting.

Speaker 11:
[28:22] I'm fighting over here.

Speaker 6:
[28:24] Listen, come on.

Speaker 1:
[28:25] I'm assuming everybody here saw Tank vs. Tyrese. What are our initial thoughts before? I got an old rant.

Speaker 9:
[28:34] It went the way I said it was going to go. To me, like, they both can sing, they both talented, but I think that now that Verzuz is so much about the live performance, that's what Tank to me shined above. And he pulled some...

Speaker 1:
[28:46] Some celebrity cards.

Speaker 9:
[28:47] Yeah, he did some things. That's what I thought he was going to do. You know what I mean?

Speaker 12:
[28:51] I'm mad at it.

Speaker 9:
[28:52] Do what you got to do.

Speaker 12:
[28:52] You said it, Marc.

Speaker 2:
[28:53] He was also just great at, like, interacting with the crowd and the screen. He was, yeah.

Speaker 7:
[28:59] He was way more charismatic. He was way more personable. I don't... He mopped the floor with Tyrese too. I don't want to say that because I fuck with Tyrese, but it was...

Speaker 2:
[29:10] The turtleneck song was like...

Speaker 7:
[29:11] It wasn't even close.

Speaker 9:
[29:12] The turtleneck shit was...

Speaker 7:
[29:14] It wasn't even close.

Speaker 10:
[29:15] A lot of jackets, you know, some of the songs were kind of obscure. Like, I didn't know them, but I think it overall was kind of like one-sided.

Speaker 1:
[29:24] Now, I happened to see Tyrese's interview before the Verzuz dropped. I did not. And I came and I came... I forgot to come in here the last part and say, hey, I think that Tank is going to completely put belt the ass on Tyrese. And I wouldn't have been saying that because I spoke to Tank. That would have had nothing to do with why I was saying that. Yeah, if I wasn't retired, I mean, I'm trying to get a little shit on Put It Down, a little shit on Put It Down action.

Speaker 2:
[29:54] Would you pop out for that?

Speaker 1:
[29:55] No. The Verzuz? No.

Speaker 7:
[29:56] Did he ask you?

Speaker 1:
[29:57] Him? Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[29:58] He asked you for it?

Speaker 6:
[29:59] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[30:00] That would have been epic, bro.

Speaker 2:
[30:03] I'm retired. Alicia popped out for that, man.

Speaker 13:
[30:05] Loser.

Speaker 6:
[30:05] And rap?

Speaker 7:
[30:06] Yeah, you're a goon.

Speaker 11:
[30:07] She would have put it down.

Speaker 3:
[30:08] That would have broke the neck.

Speaker 13:
[30:09] What do you mean?

Speaker 1:
[30:10] I love that song, too.

Speaker 3:
[30:12] That's why you should have did it because you loved it.

Speaker 2:
[30:14] You only got about 20 bars of that, bitch.

Speaker 7:
[30:16] No, Tank should have been there. That's why he should have did it.

Speaker 1:
[30:19] All right, guys, can y'all stop yelling at me? Jesus. Anyway, let me play this Tyrese interview for y'all.

Speaker 14:
[30:25] I know he's really excited. I may not be as excited as he is.

Speaker 1:
[30:30] We can tell. Why not?

Speaker 14:
[30:31] I think Tank is a different category of singer than me. So when we've been approached in the past, I'm like, no, Tank needs to be singing with Brian McKnight. Tank needs to be singing with Stokely from Mint Condition. He needs to sing with somebody who has a high pitch voice.

Speaker 1:
[30:53] This is positive hate.

Speaker 14:
[30:54] Sings in what's called falsetto, hitting notes way up there. I'm not there. You know, he needs to be doing the verses with Eric Benet or just somebody who sings with a high pitch voice.

Speaker 8:
[31:05] He don't just sing high.

Speaker 14:
[31:08] I am in the raspy category like Cisco, like KC, Teddy Pimicolas, Luther Vangelo.

Speaker 1:
[31:14] Oh, this sounds scary to me.

Speaker 8:
[31:16] I wouldn't say raspy either.

Speaker 14:
[31:17] I have a different pedigree of voice.

Speaker 8:
[31:19] Smooth.

Speaker 14:
[31:19] So I just don't think we're compatible, period. So no, I never wanted to do a verses with Tank. I might lose.

Speaker 2:
[31:31] Okay.

Speaker 14:
[31:31] I might lose.

Speaker 2:
[31:32] He came in with the band.

Speaker 13:
[31:33] That's what I was saying.

Speaker 14:
[31:37] Tank 30 shows to get to.

Speaker 1:
[31:39] You know, you got to figure out. He said, what I make in 10 shows, it'll take Tank 30 shows to get to.

Speaker 2:
[31:49] In a group.

Speaker 5:
[31:49] Damn, that was shady.

Speaker 1:
[31:50] That's what he said. This was some hater shit, if I ever heard it, number one, number two. It sounded to me very early on like he was afraid.

Speaker 3:
[32:01] Yeah. Pack with fear.

Speaker 1:
[32:02] Like he was scared.

Speaker 3:
[32:03] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[32:03] Which Tyrese has been up here, friend of the show. He came up here popping his shit. He came up here with all the bravado and macho machismo confidence in the universe, understandably so. But when I heard that, I was like, belt to ass even more for Tyrese. This ain't going to go good. And then the verses starts. Tank opens up with the Sex, Love and Pain intro into his I Can't Make You Love Me cover, two joints that I absolutely love. And what a great way to open R&B verses, with you on the piano, getting in your bag. Tyrese responds with the features. He came out, told Tank he was putting the crowd to sleep, and he responds with the brat, what do you like? I was outside when that song came out, I had that album, that song meant a lot to me. Followed into Chingy pulling me back, I was signed by that point, I know what Chingy pulling me back was doing, and Chingy came out.

Speaker 2:
[33:05] Yeah, that's fire.

Speaker 1:
[33:07] I scored a point for Tyrese.

Speaker 7:
[33:09] But I knew he lost.

Speaker 1:
[33:11] You knew who lost?

Speaker 7:
[33:11] Tyrese, right there I knew he lost. The whole joint.

Speaker 1:
[33:14] Why?

Speaker 7:
[33:14] Because those two songs, to your point, I was outside, and I saw what those songs did outside, but they didn't resonate with that crowd in the manner like I thought they would. Right. That that brat shit was a smash. That Chingy song had niggas outside. The crowd was like, oh, okay. And I was like, oh yeah, he lost.

Speaker 1:
[33:34] I gave Tyrese that round.

Speaker 7:
[33:37] He got it. But again, it didn't do what it should have done. I had him win that round too.

Speaker 1:
[33:43] I gave that round.

Speaker 9:
[33:44] I had to play such a high card to me to win the round.

Speaker 3:
[33:48] I thought the same way. That confused me though when y'all talk about the crowd, because it's like, how important is the crowd that's actually sitting there watching in the verses? Is that important?

Speaker 2:
[33:56] It depends on the verses. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3:
[33:58] Because I feel like...

Speaker 1:
[33:59] It's important with two artists that are LA based.

Speaker 2:
[34:02] And this particular show was very much like a show. Like it wasn't like... Some of them you could tell it's just like crew. Like in the crowd, I don't really put too much stock in that because whoever brought more people is cool. But this looked like an actual show, like a concert.

Speaker 1:
[34:15] I didn't give Tyrese another point for the next eight or nine songs. I want to say. The next point he got from me and he didn't get a bunch of them. He got shame because that's shame. I didn't care for Tank bringing out LaToya Lockett. That part just wasn't for me. I also didn't care for Tank bringing out Homeboy that helped write Pleasure Peas Under. I absolutely loved that song, Under on some R&B head shit. That's like one of those. Homeboy that wrote it, that helped write it came out to do his... He was on some Jesse Powell shit. It seemed like he was supposed to get a deal in 98. It didn't happen.

Speaker 7:
[35:02] He kept singing.

Speaker 1:
[35:03] This is my chance to jive it. I'm saying that's what it looked like. That is what it looked like. I'm not trying to disrespect nobody.

Speaker 9:
[35:14] Imani's heard enough. He's about to sit down.

Speaker 5:
[35:16] This is his only opportunity to do this.

Speaker 3:
[35:19] He missed his chance.

Speaker 5:
[35:20] This is his only opportunity to do this.

Speaker 3:
[35:22] Everybody, here comes Imani.

Speaker 10:
[35:23] It's like nobody come to see you, Otis.

Speaker 15:
[35:25] First off, let's give respect to Bobby Outside. That's one.

Speaker 3:
[35:28] What's the name?

Speaker 15:
[35:29] Bobby Outside. He's a part of the Neutrons, a group that was signed to Joe Jackson back in the day.

Speaker 5:
[35:34] Shout out to Bobby Outside and Roy P.

Speaker 12:
[35:36] Joe Jackson.

Speaker 7:
[35:40] The Neutrons, Electrons and Protons.

Speaker 12:
[35:46] Michael Fox.

Speaker 7:
[35:47] Hold up.

Speaker 15:
[35:48] This is the problem with you. A lot of up here like to stan on their music. Some of y'all just hip hop. Y'all don't really know about R&B and everything else. So let me talk about R&B. This nigga is somebody in the industry that people respect. So let's one. Second, yes, he was bugged the fuck out. He looked crazy up there doing what he was doing. So cool, but we're not gonna talk about like he just ain't nobody.

Speaker 7:
[36:07] No, that's not what he thinks.

Speaker 12:
[36:10] He said were inside of Na'vi.

Speaker 13:
[36:11] Exactly.

Speaker 12:
[36:13] Did he sound good?

Speaker 15:
[36:15] No, he didn't sound good.

Speaker 7:
[36:18] You can be that behind the scenes, that's well respected, but the masses don't know you.

Speaker 11:
[36:23] But this is the moment where you give the masses the opportunity to get to know you.

Speaker 3:
[36:28] You used one sandwich, one show, and now it's like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, that's my brother, we scared the bacon out of your cheese together.

Speaker 15:
[36:37] Y'all do that for one, a hip hop with one single. Y'all go ahead and champion. Let me champion R&B who doesn't put some shit down in the game. Let me hold R&B down. You don't know what y'all talking about.

Speaker 9:
[36:49] Joe Jackson.

Speaker 1:
[36:49] Are you done with this Johnny Neutron shit?

Speaker 11:
[36:51] No, I'm not. Corey, look at Flip next.

Speaker 9:
[36:53] Fetty, what you saying? He was signed to Joe Jackson.

Speaker 13:
[36:55] Flip, are you okay? He's part of the Neutron.

Speaker 12:
[36:58] Oh, y'all, let me finish. Screw it.

Speaker 16:
[37:00] I believe you.

Speaker 15:
[37:03] I will agree with you that I do think that Tank mopped the floor at a certain point, but I really came up here to say I'm really disappointed with this whole versus. I think this whole shit was whack, period. I'm not going to sit here and say that Tank ain't go up there and kill vocally. We expect that all the time from Tank. But for R&B to have a moment like this, to be spotlighted like this, for two of our vets to go up there and play around with it, it wasn't something like, it was more of a comedy show than it was niggas actually going up there and showing what R&B is about. At least from the Tyrese side. Tyrese 100% treated that shit. Even when you played the interview, I'm disappointed because, if there's any moment for R&B to show up, we always talk about how the young niggas don't really go ahead and get on stage and do their thing. Tyrese, she should have came up there and showed these young why you are Tyrese. Totally disgusted with that.

Speaker 7:
[37:54] I think he tried.

Speaker 15:
[37:55] I don't think he tried.

Speaker 16:
[37:56] I think he took his shit.

Speaker 1:
[38:00] Hold up, man.

Speaker 11:
[38:02] You better not play Fah.

Speaker 1:
[38:07] Let us get some action.

Speaker 15:
[38:09] I ain't got much time.

Speaker 11:
[38:09] Go ahead.

Speaker 3:
[38:10] Can I say something? Go ahead. I don't get what the fuck you're saying because all the man said was that you could just tell that this guy, this is his only fucking chance ever. Then he stops my long take to come in with this Johnny Neutron spools.

Speaker 11:
[38:31] I only addressed that because you said it.

Speaker 15:
[38:32] I don't give a about what else you want to talk about. I want to say what I'm going to say and dip.

Speaker 3:
[38:36] Right.

Speaker 11:
[38:36] I ain't here to be a part of y'all whole shit.

Speaker 1:
[38:39] When do we get to the dip part? Thank you very much, my brother.

Speaker 6:
[38:48] Thank you.

Speaker 11:
[38:50] No, no, no, no.

Speaker 6:
[38:54] That was a lot.

Speaker 8:
[38:55] I mean, it's still to Johnny Neutron.

Speaker 1:
[38:57] Because I'm not trying to disrespect the guy.

Speaker 8:
[39:00] Of course not.

Speaker 2:
[39:00] He just didn't perform great.

Speaker 6:
[39:01] Yeah. I'm just talking about how he performed in that moment.

Speaker 1:
[39:05] But I appreciate.

Speaker 6:
[39:06] We get to the dip part.

Speaker 1:
[39:08] But I appreciate Tank sharing the stage with the writers and some of the lesser known performers. His background singer is absolutely killed.

Speaker 2:
[39:23] Band in general.

Speaker 1:
[39:25] His band absolutely killed. Tank's showmanship, his...

Speaker 2:
[39:33] Charisma, personality.

Speaker 1:
[39:34] All of that. Ability to just command a stage. There was one point where Tyrese changed his set list and was like, Tank, go ahead. I'm changing this. I'm not doing this song. You got four extra minutes. That happened a few times where Tank was unbothered. Okay, now we going, hey, all keys, all strings. I'm going to just sing an ad lib. And that started happening early on before Turtleneck. Before Turtleneck, you could see the church coming out of Tank and his whole crew on the spot. And he said it in the after interview. He said, once you got your foundation, it allowed you to play. By the time Turtleneck came, I thought this whole battle was over.

Speaker 2:
[40:17] Yeah, for sure. It was. It was.

Speaker 7:
[40:19] But even in the beginning, you could tell that Tyrese was frustrated with the sound guy, though.

Speaker 2:
[40:24] The sound was not great.

Speaker 7:
[40:25] The sound was not good, yo.

Speaker 1:
[40:26] I watched on Apple. I didn't think the sound was good.

Speaker 7:
[40:29] It was trash.

Speaker 1:
[40:29] All the clips I see on Instagram seem like they have good audio. That was not my experience.

Speaker 7:
[40:34] Nah, I watched it on.

Speaker 1:
[40:35] OK, they must have fixed it.

Speaker 7:
[40:37] Because I was traveling. I watched it today. Last night. DC. I wanted to, too.

Speaker 1:
[40:41] But he said AC. DC.

Speaker 2:
[40:43] He ain't gonna land in Seattle.

Speaker 12:
[40:46] You go to the slums. No, not in the city slums.

Speaker 3:
[40:49] You know, listen, I want everybody to take heat to the whole thing. Energy is everything. Like, the way your attitude is. And I kept thinking, is he in a bad mood? But I didn't see that interview. He went in like he lost. You can't, his mindset wasn't there.

Speaker 7:
[41:06] I just think, yeah.

Speaker 2:
[41:07] He didn't seem like he wanted to do it.

Speaker 3:
[41:08] And it was probably mostly fear.

Speaker 12:
[41:10] Even the back and forth, the insults was a little like, ugh.

Speaker 11:
[41:14] Like stinging.

Speaker 12:
[41:15] Isn't that your man?

Speaker 1:
[41:18] Yeah, I expected all of the insults.

Speaker 12:
[41:21] I didn't know that.

Speaker 1:
[41:22] I expected it to be tense. Because you got to think, right? When TGT came out, which is a long time ago now, that's 2013, somewhere around there. When that comes out, Tank has not dropped what I think is his best project yet, which is Sex, Love, and Pain II, that comes in 2016. Tyrese is coming off of Transformers, Fast and Furious, some other big franchise. So, in the group...

Speaker 7:
[41:50] He the alpha in the group.

Speaker 1:
[41:52] Well, that's where the fight is. You are the star on some movie star shit, and you have the most money. You may not be the most talented, but you have the biggest hits. But you are in the group with... And I felt for Tank, because I'm looking at Tyrese be a nut on stage, and you know Genuine is a nut on stage. Can you imagine being in a group with two fucking nuts?

Speaker 3:
[42:16] One drunk.

Speaker 1:
[42:17] Like, I felt for Tank.

Speaker 10:
[42:19] I felt for Tyrese, though. When Tank started talking about he can't sell hard tickets, I felt like his soul left his body.

Speaker 1:
[42:24] That's where I was getting to. So, in 2014, movie star, you got this, you got the bigger hits. It's nothing for Tank to do, but kind of be humble. Not so much today. We done kind of forgot about Fast and the Furious. That money is spent, Transformers is over. So, when he said, yo, that movie shit, you can't tour, and you don't tour, and you don't have hard tickets, those snaps wouldn't have worked in 2013. Today, boy, they hit hard. And you could tell that Tyrese is a bit insecure. His performance just came off. He seemed more insecure than I've ever seen him before. And two, I don't know why these artists that do their verses don't seem to be familiar with their catalog either.

Speaker 3:
[43:08] Yeah, they don't know.

Speaker 1:
[43:09] I don't know what the fuck Tyrese was up there playing. And I'm a Tyrese fan. I got all albums.

Speaker 6:
[43:16] Some of them shits, I'm like, yo, dog, if you're playing features, why are you not doing Best Man?

Speaker 1:
[43:22] Best Man is a song that people know that it's respected.

Speaker 6:
[43:27] It takes you on a ride, takes you to the movie.

Speaker 1:
[43:29] Do Best Man. Why are we not doing Signs of Lovemaking? I had that as a guaranteed point damn near for Tyrese whenever it came on, and he skipped it.

Speaker 10:
[43:38] He waited too long to perform it.

Speaker 6:
[43:40] He didn't perform it.

Speaker 1:
[43:41] I thought I heard it. You did not hear Signs of Lovemaking.

Speaker 12:
[43:43] He said the Zodiac Signs.

Speaker 7:
[43:44] I thought, no, he performed it.

Speaker 1:
[43:46] I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it.

Speaker 7:
[43:49] He didn't run it. I think he went into another song or something. Like he played this song beat. Because he said, yo, what's your sign on Macapricorn?

Speaker 12:
[43:55] He did.

Speaker 11:
[43:57] He performed it.

Speaker 15:
[43:58] But, my bad, I'm back.

Speaker 3:
[44:00] I offered him my mic too.

Speaker 1:
[44:02] No, he won't take my mic. I told him to do it.

Speaker 15:
[44:03] Yeah, out of here, man.

Speaker 13:
[44:04] Look at his neck.

Speaker 15:
[44:05] Can I just also make it clear?

Speaker 1:
[44:07] Yeah, breath smelling man good, I said the same thing.

Speaker 6:
[44:13] Yo, why you smelling?

Speaker 11:
[44:14] You do the kiss when the bitch is behind you.

Speaker 15:
[44:17] We got the winner for this shit. So, I want to point out, Tank has a band and background singers that often perform with them. So, their shit is always complete.

Speaker 11:
[44:29] You can hear it.

Speaker 15:
[44:29] Clicking. Gavin, Candice Boyd, Lonnie Burrell have always been with him. So, they're going to always be on point at the point where you don't even need the sound guy to go play something. And Tank was very clear on, I was here all day rehearsing. Tyrese came rehearse, did not do shit, left, came back, so you can tell he wasn't really prepped. And Kenyon Dixon saluted him, but he's not his go-to background singer. And Ashley from June's Diaries, she's not his go-to background singer.

Speaker 6:
[44:57] Tyrese looked like he was hating on Kenyon Dixon.

Speaker 15:
[44:59] But no, Kenyon Dixon didn't. And let me just say that too, Kenyon, that was some wack shit. You fire, you that nigga. But you can't sing background for Tank.

Speaker 1:
[45:08] Yes, he can.

Speaker 15:
[45:08] No, you can't.

Speaker 1:
[45:09] Yes, he can.

Speaker 15:
[45:09] If you are there hired to sing backgrounds for Tyrese, and Tyrese is the person who's competing against him, you can't decide to now start singing background for Tank and help him on his set. That's wack.

Speaker 1:
[45:19] Well, excuse me, dip again. All right, you're right on some performer shit. You're right, that shouldn't happen. On some fan watching, that was the flyest shit in the world. That Tank walked over to the other side, got his singer involved, Kenyon Dixon, and his band, because it wasn't just the singer. Band, get involved. And now this whole stage, that's fire.

Speaker 7:
[45:42] Yo, dog, let me tell you something. If it wasn't contentious, that's fire. You could tell anybody watching that there was a little bit of tension and friction. The second you were to, ooh, for the next, pew, I would have paid them niggas.

Speaker 1:
[45:58] Tyrese is a...

Speaker 3:
[45:59] You're funny as shit.

Speaker 1:
[46:00] I don't know what math Tyrese be doing, but we gotta get rid of the, yo, you perform in hotel lobbies as an insult.

Speaker 7:
[46:08] As, oh no, you could tell.

Speaker 1:
[46:10] And Tank flipped it on some, no, I perform wherever the fans are. Right. He answered that perfectly. First of all, Tank is always on the road. He's on the road. Anything Imani just said is true. He just came off the road. We just seen him in DC, Kari Osel and all that shit. So he's on the fucking road. One. Two, they're not small places. They're 3,000, 3500 amputee fucking theaters.

Speaker 6:
[46:32] That city to city he's selling out. I don't know why Tyrese thought...

Speaker 7:
[46:37] Two and three nights in the same city.

Speaker 6:
[46:40] See, Tyrese is unaware.

Speaker 1:
[46:41] He tried to clown that shirt that Tank was wearing. It's the chrome heart, that look. My mom hit me and said, this shirt is too big. I said, by the end of this, he won't have a shirt on.

Speaker 6:
[46:52] But he didn't have to take his shirt off. He didn't break a sweat.

Speaker 1:
[46:56] This is why I knew Tyrese was losing. When he kept saying, what the fuck did he keep saying up there? Oh, yeah, I don't normally perform this one. This one of these joints that my fans been asking me to perform for years.

Speaker 2:
[47:12] You don't understand verses.

Speaker 1:
[47:13] Oh, so either that, or you are clear that you getting a foot up your ass. And now we just getting every disclaimer in the world.

Speaker 10:
[47:20] This black top bag ain't going to work.

Speaker 7:
[47:22] Bro, listen, the thing that you just played, I didn't hear that. But when you start talking about money, that shit, it don't work. Like, yo, dog, oh, it's going to take me 10 shows to get where he getting 30.

Speaker 2:
[47:35] What you doing right now, though?

Speaker 7:
[47:36] That don't matter, my. Get up here, perform your shit. It could be Joe Schmoe. I don't give a fuck how much money you got. get up here and let us see it. Like, that shit is wack.

Speaker 6:
[47:46] Tyrese didn't play, Tyrese didn't play lately.

Speaker 3:
[47:49] Tyrese is depressed.

Speaker 15:
[47:50] No, when's the last time Tyrese had to do a 40 minute set?

Speaker 7:
[47:53] Dog. So, Imani, that don't matter. You know why? Because if you got to do a 40 minute set, I'm going to take the best songs that I'm known for and put them in that 40 minute set. I'm not going to play some B-side shit that an unresponsive crowd, the crowd already wasn't really into the shit. So, I'm going to play the shit that the crowd at least knows. I'm not going to not play my smacks.

Speaker 1:
[48:30] Nah, this is hilarious. Just freestyling about a dude changing clothes. Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. By this point, I was saying, if they keep singing this, then it's gonna be bad for them on TikTok and socials, and they kept singing it. Then they start harmonizing this shit.

Speaker 6:
[48:56] And he up there looking hot in the turtleneck.

Speaker 13:
[48:59] The nigga look beautiful.

Speaker 5:
[49:00] The nigga look nice.

Speaker 6:
[49:01] No, he also looks hot.

Speaker 13:
[49:02] Like warm.

Speaker 5:
[49:15] Fan them down, yo.

Speaker 1:
[49:18] Look. And now you got Tyrese whispering Turtleneck. What? You lost, dawg.

Speaker 9:
[49:22] Because he had to play along so he don't look mad.

Speaker 5:
[49:26] Right.

Speaker 3:
[49:27] When you getting fucked up, you gotta act like you enjoying it. That's what Tyrese is talking about.

Speaker 5:
[49:31] I think they, I feel bad for Tyrese.

Speaker 7:
[49:32] Yeah, I think Tyrese went to this wrong. I would have been on some brotherhood shit, as opposed to some insult shit, and I would have just got up there and performed with my brother. I wouldn't have got up there thinking I was him, and tried to really compete with that.

Speaker 1:
[49:45] And be clear, as a Tank fan, I think there's a lot of songs Tank left off to take home too. There's a lot that Tank didn't get to. I don't know if they were time restraints or what, but Tank had another bag to get into.

Speaker 3:
[49:56] I think that you were right when you said last week about internal group beef, and I think that even though it looked like that, who knows if that means that it'll be a longer time before they go on tour together, because that shit caused the brow, that's what caused the brow. He did that tour.

Speaker 12:
[50:10] That Aaliyah moment was that little tension.

Speaker 9:
[50:13] It was a little awkward when he thought he was dead.

Speaker 7:
[50:14] When he said, I want Aaliyah. You'll get your ass whipped or something.

Speaker 12:
[50:17] Yeah, they'll get you.

Speaker 3:
[50:18] And that's if the turtleneck shit don't take off, and people in his comments for the next month, what's up, turtleneck? Good morning, turtleneck.

Speaker 7:
[50:24] Or no, will start getting on TikTok dancing, turtleneck sliding across the floor. He not going to be able to take a turtleneck this week.

Speaker 9:
[50:32] It's going to be a long time. Maybe never.

Speaker 12:
[50:34] And when Trey came on stage, he was hot.

Speaker 10:
[50:35] Yeah, that was a little off.

Speaker 3:
[50:38] Who came on stage?

Speaker 10:
[50:39] Trey Songz.

Speaker 3:
[50:39] Oh, Trey.

Speaker 10:
[50:40] He was hot. Tyrese seemed like he was more concerned about his wardrobe changes, his sports coats.

Speaker 1:
[50:45] Well, let's slow down. Let's have a look. Slow down, beat up. We shouldn't speed over this one. I'm just trying to give it silence, because I don't really know how to tackle it. He's new. He looked a fucking mess, dog. True songs. He looked like he did. He said, yo, I came out on the last minute and had to find something to wear.

Speaker 7:
[51:11] He said he just got off a flight or some shit. Just got off a flight and this is all I found.

Speaker 6:
[51:15] all you found was the royal blue Paco sweatsuit, Paco. What the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 1:
[51:20] This is all I found. Do you know where you're going?

Speaker 6:
[51:23] you are coming to the Apple building.

Speaker 1:
[51:25] Joe, if he just a dog, do you know where the you ain't at?

Speaker 6:
[51:28] He was dressed for Roscoe's.

Speaker 7:
[51:30] Yo, dog, you gotta fly.

Speaker 2:
[51:32] You could have got a little black button down.

Speaker 7:
[51:34] No, you gotta at least come in your flight sweatsuit.

Speaker 10:
[51:38] That was it?

Speaker 6:
[51:39] My airplane sweatsuit is flying in that sweatsuit.

Speaker 4:
[51:43] Bring me a suit to the airport.

Speaker 7:
[51:45] Nah, your airport.

Speaker 10:
[51:46] He was late.

Speaker 5:
[51:47] I don't fuck around with airports.

Speaker 7:
[51:49] Nah, your airport sweatsuit gotta be better. He could have came in with a dope ass sweatsuit with dope ass sneakers on and got it off.

Speaker 1:
[51:55] And we wouldn't have paid the sweatsuit no mind if you fucking sung the song and sounded like the song, which he did not. And I'm also not a fan of Tank doing When We Twice. I think there were other songs for him to put in the beginning if you had the When We remix coming with Trey Songz. But Trey didn't, Trey didn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, nah, it wasn't that. But I loved that he came out because Trey Songz is crazy and so is Tyrese. See Tank is up there with logic and good sense and a professional. So when Tyrese came to the stage and was like, yo, cut that shit off, it could have got, it could have had that, it had that cheesy Gucci man feeling, it did. It did. Because Trey looked like he was trying to be professional in the matter, but you just walked the center stage, told him to cut my music as I was about to make up for the bad vocals that I just did. Or make up for all of it, right? Yeah, I don't know what's going on with that.

Speaker 10:
[52:58] I think that was his first appearance post of getting arrested in New York, like publicly.

Speaker 7:
[53:04] That may be true. No, that's not. He just did a show in Virginia.

Speaker 10:
[53:08] Oh, he did?

Speaker 7:
[53:08] Okay.

Speaker 4:
[53:09] Last week.

Speaker 1:
[53:10] We don't know about Virginia's show.

Speaker 3:
[53:11] All right. That big-ass sweatsuit.

Speaker 1:
[53:16] It's just a shame because Trey Song's catalogue, I'll save it for another day. But his catalogue, if he could sing it. He got slaps. Oh my God, all the slaps in the world. Anyway, Lonnie Burrell doing the end of Maybe I Deserve with Tank, Chef's Kiss, that was great. Jamie Foxx was great until we got to making the crowd say, Jamie motherfucking Foxx for the next 20 minutes.

Speaker 7:
[53:42] I could do without, I'm fine. The church shit for the last eight minutes of the Jamie Foxx shit. Like, get my leave. You killed it, leave. The whole church ensemble, you got that.

Speaker 1:
[53:55] Yeah, he seemed like the nigga. Once you invite him over to the kickback and he get a good joke in front of the bitches, it's over.

Speaker 2:
[54:02] That's Jamie Foxx, yes.

Speaker 1:
[54:03] It's over.

Speaker 7:
[54:04] You're right. That is exactly what it gets.

Speaker 1:
[54:05] Thank God the white joints don't be in my kickback.

Speaker 3:
[54:10] Don't y'all hate that.

Speaker 6:
[54:11] All right. That was a good one, y'all. I thought it was pretty good.

Speaker 8:
[54:16] y'all.

Speaker 6:
[54:17] What else? What else? What else? What else?

Speaker 1:
[54:21] Tyrese lost because he was the first one to play a song featuring his opponent.

Speaker 6:
[54:26] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[54:27] He lost for mad reasons.

Speaker 10:
[54:29] Mad reasons.

Speaker 2:
[54:31] He didn't want to be there, I don't think.

Speaker 3:
[54:32] He did not want to be there.

Speaker 7:
[54:35] I don't even think he sung that well.

Speaker 2:
[54:37] He was okay singing.

Speaker 7:
[54:38] His vocals weren't that bad. He was okay at best to me. He sounded like he was screaming. He sounded like he was screaming. And again, I think the sound dude kind of ticked him off from the rip and he never really recovered.

Speaker 3:
[54:51] Do y'all think he practiced at all?

Speaker 7:
[54:53] No.

Speaker 3:
[54:53] I don't think he practiced at all.

Speaker 15:
[54:55] One more thing. And I think the biggest reason for that is he doesn't tour, he doesn't perform as often as Tank, so you're never gonna sound as good as Tank. You also aren't really familiar with probably that band.

Speaker 3:
[55:07] Are you this Agent?

Speaker 15:
[55:09] I'm just telling you, listen, I'm just telling you.

Speaker 11:
[55:12] Are you part of this team?

Speaker 1:
[55:13] He wanted to be TGT.

Speaker 5:
[55:16] He wanted to add to the 11th.

Speaker 13:
[55:17] Will you open your iPhone?

Speaker 1:
[55:19] You want to take Genuine please?

Speaker 3:
[55:20] We were all chatting yesterday.

Speaker 15:
[55:21] Do me a favor. When I'm talking R&B, just mute up. Everybody mute up. I don't talk Eddie Murphy with you. Let me get my shit off. I think Tyrese really is fire. He has all the records in the world. He could have done way better with this. It just goes to show a nigga was not ready for this type of platform. Tank and Joe would have been better. If we could have had a match up, that would have been a better match up because those two people would have went up there and really been on some straight female vocalists.

Speaker 1:
[55:50] Yeah, Joe would have matched the energy.

Speaker 15:
[55:51] Joe would have matched the energy for that type of crowd. So Tank started to get into his comedian bag once he saw Tyrese wanted to lean into that. Tyrese, big disappointment for R&B. I really came just to say that. You still talking while I'm talking R&B?

Speaker 9:
[56:05] I think he's getting a little...

Speaker 3:
[56:06] His neck burns. He's getting a stretch appointment and you got his shit all twisted. He's an older man.

Speaker 15:
[56:09] He said my breath smells good.

Speaker 1:
[56:11] That ain't me. I wanted you to just stay.

Speaker 5:
[56:15] Uh oh.

Speaker 9:
[56:16] He's getting a stretch appointment right now.

Speaker 15:
[56:17] It's getting romantic.

Speaker 5:
[56:18] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[56:20] They can't even get this shit. Nah, his breath does smell good.

Speaker 9:
[56:22] And my knee is actually disgruntled that he can't talk on this show he's not on. Listen.

Speaker 3:
[56:29] It don't have to be a certain topic.

Speaker 9:
[56:30] You want my seat, bro? I really don't mind.

Speaker 1:
[56:33] So then at the end, it appears that Tyrese leaves while they announced that.

Speaker 5:
[56:40] That he left.

Speaker 7:
[56:41] So y'all won already. I'm out.

Speaker 1:
[56:44] Oh, ain't nobody believe that. Ain't nobody believe that.

Speaker 6:
[56:46] He didn't believe that.

Speaker 1:
[56:47] Nobody believe that. And he did it after like three. So, yo, I'm out.

Speaker 6:
[56:51] My ballet is outside. No, no, you're not. No, you're not.

Speaker 1:
[56:53] So we thought he left at the end. Tank is out there announcing that Tyrese left, which he didn't. He came back to say he wanted to do interviews, but his lady was left out there.

Speaker 2:
[57:04] That was funny.

Speaker 1:
[57:05] So now Tank's background singers.

Speaker 8:
[57:08] You left a girl on the couch. You know, it was killing that shit.

Speaker 7:
[57:13] It was a bad showing.

Speaker 2:
[57:14] When the background singers is getting on you, that's crazy.

Speaker 7:
[57:17] It was just bad all around the board for them.

Speaker 1:
[57:19] I mean, by the time the Verzuz ended, it was almost, it was 11, 15. For me, I had a great night.

Speaker 2:
[57:25] I did too.

Speaker 1:
[57:25] I was in bed, watched the shit. No, it wasn't the COVID vibes, but I was pleased.

Speaker 9:
[57:31] It was entertaining. Let me ask you a question. I think about Dipset Locks. That was a Molly Wap it. Epic, legendary.

Speaker 1:
[57:40] There's been a few Molly Wap it. That was the greatest one.

Speaker 9:
[57:43] That was the greatest one, right? So take that off the table. Where does this rank among ass whoopings and verses that y'all are?

Speaker 1:
[57:48] It wasn't nowhere near that.

Speaker 10:
[57:49] This is one of the most like lustful verses in my opinion.

Speaker 9:
[57:51] You do it just, okay.

Speaker 1:
[57:53] It's not at the top of the Molly Wap verses list. There's been too many. Ne-Yo got Molly Wap. Ne-Yo dig it. T-Pain got Molly Wap.

Speaker 2:
[58:04] He shouldn't have got Molly Wap like that.

Speaker 1:
[58:06] Yeah.

Speaker 4:
[58:07] He's due with these can longs.

Speaker 1:
[58:09] Yeah, T-Pain, but that's Lil Jon.

Speaker 10:
[58:10] Yeah, true. Yeah, the greatest take away is the Turtleneck remix, you know?

Speaker 2:
[58:16] That was probably the highlight.

Speaker 10:
[58:17] That's the highlight of the show.

Speaker 9:
[58:18] That's a fact.

Speaker 1:
[58:18] And I'm sitting there waiting to the end of the battle because Tank sent me a song that he said he was dropping right after the verses. And guess what song didn't come out?

Speaker 6:
[58:26] Whatever the fuck song he was talking about.

Speaker 2:
[58:28] There was so much music that did not come out last night. It was disappointing. It was a disappointing big day. Let's talk about that. Sheesh.

Speaker 7:
[58:35] That Apple shit got to be some Union venue and them was playing with the time too. That's Apple.

Speaker 1:
[58:40] Yeah, that was that Apple.

Speaker 2:
[58:41] This is scheduled.

Speaker 7:
[58:42] Yeah, like this is scheduled dog.

Speaker 1:
[58:45] I'm calling Tank. Wow. I don't expect him to answer. Of course he answers.

Speaker 7:
[58:50] You know you're calling.

Speaker 1:
[58:53] Well, it's early in LA right now.

Speaker 2:
[58:54] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[58:56] He should have had a long night. He should have been at Hollywood Hookah or something like that.

Speaker 2:
[59:00] I'm sure he was.

Speaker 1:
[59:02] Hello.

Speaker 17:
[59:03] Brother Joe.

Speaker 1:
[59:06] Brother Tank. My man. Hey, hey. And that's it.

Speaker 8:
[59:18] And that's it, goddamn it.

Speaker 13:
[59:20] Listen.

Speaker 1:
[59:22] Bel went to ask, but that's not what I was calling about. I was calling because you told me that a song was dropping after the verses, and I was waiting for it.

Speaker 17:
[59:31] DGT. Are we live?

Speaker 1:
[59:33] Yes.

Speaker 17:
[59:35] Okay, then I can't say too much, but let's just say, things didn't go in my favor, and it was a shock, a surprise to me, very disheartening, very disappointing, but that's how life is sometimes in this business. People will let you down and you have to put them on today, so.

Speaker 1:
[60:02] Damn. Oh, man.

Speaker 7:
[60:03] I see how this makes you. You make that voice and sentiment with some muscles.

Speaker 17:
[60:09] So what you have in your possession, just that's just for you.

Speaker 1:
[60:17] God damn, it's fire, though. Yes. It is absolutely fire. Okay, so listen, how do you feel? Belt went to ass?

Speaker 17:
[60:28] You know what? You know, we had fun in that regard. You know what I mean? Because I knew we were going to have some jokes and all the cool stuff, and I was definitely going to find a good moment, good meme, good viral moment. You know, but for me, that whole opportunity was not necessarily me versus Tyrese, but an opportunity for me to show the world who I am and what I do.

Speaker 1:
[60:49] Yeah, but you showed Tyrese too. Enough of that world shit. I know that you got to be a professional with all times, but...

Speaker 17:
[60:56] No, I'm giving you the real. He knows what I can do. 100% because I do it for him. So he know me. He know what the smoke is, but as a true Capricorn and he's a fighter himself, you know what I mean? He's a man that don't want to lose. Got his pride and ego just like me. You know, he going to handle it a certain way as he should. He's a man. But what I do is just different. Was it a fair matchup? No, no, not at all. But you know, because I could have just stuck to my records, Joe. I got nothing of those things at a number one.

Speaker 1:
[61:32] Listen, I went on air and said, did you left a lot out of your bag?

Speaker 17:
[61:36] I left a lot out, but it was making sure that all, you know, however many millions of those people were watching, that all Tank isn't just an artist. He's not, he and Tyrese are not the same. No, this guy does this and he does that. He does this well and that well. Yeah. So that was putting all my talents on display.

Speaker 1:
[61:55] Was it a conscious effort from you to not get into some of your older records? Like I thought You're A Star would have went crazy. I thought Celebrate would have went crazy. I thought fucking-

Speaker 15:
[62:07] Emergency.

Speaker 1:
[62:09] Yeah. All of that, all of that shit.

Speaker 17:
[62:11] I thought all of that would have went crazy. But when you look at the songs that I did that were the songs that I wrote and produced, those people were supposed to be there.

Speaker 1:
[62:22] One man.

Speaker 17:
[62:24] Yeah, that's when we had been rehearsing. And so, you know, once you've been rehearsing, you got the band locked in, you got the files rocked, and then people start falling out one by one, two and three days before. You know, I'm not going to go back in and just say, okay, band, let's revamp, let's try to perfect this all over. Now we land where we landed. And I just rocked with it.

Speaker 1:
[62:44] All of my pod mates told me I should have flew out there and then she don't put it down with you.

Speaker 17:
[62:49] I told you that.

Speaker 1:
[62:50] I know, I know they all call me a bitch ass. They call me wack. It's fine. It's fine. Listen, Imani.

Speaker 17:
[62:57] Maybe you brought out Chingy and I can't bring out Budden.

Speaker 6:
[63:00] Yo, dog, honestly.

Speaker 1:
[63:02] Honestly, we had to pack Chingy up, Chingle it.

Speaker 6:
[63:06] You got a little resentment for Chingy anyway.

Speaker 1:
[63:08] Yeah, yeah, I owe Chingy anyway from him clearing me out with that right there shit. But listen, our resident singer, Imani, says that he had a problem with you taking Kenyon Dixon, his background singer and getting him involved over there.

Speaker 15:
[63:25] That was up.

Speaker 1:
[63:25] I thought that was fly.

Speaker 15:
[63:27] No, it is fly, but it's still fucked up.

Speaker 17:
[63:29] No, here's how it all started. I was like, we should use background singers. He was like, yeah, let's share background singers. I was like, okay, cool. I'll put a dope crew together and we'll go from there. And he was like, well, you know, I need Kenyon Dixon because he's my guy and he's very familiar with me and I said, you know what? You need to be comfortable. Let me grab Kenyon because that's my man too. Kenyon, I need you in here so Tyrese can be comfortable, but you're doing backgrounds for both of us. He was like, all right, cool. Then Tyrese hit me again. I was like, yeah, I also need my girl Ayesha, who will also sing with me so I can be more comfortable. You know what Tyrese, you can be more comfortable. Let's hire her too. It all became, let's make Tyrese comfortable for Versus. So all the background singers you saw have never sang background singers before.

Speaker 9:
[64:23] Oh, wow. Wow.

Speaker 1:
[64:24] Yeah, but that don't matter because you worked with Candice Boyd a bunch. And Lonnie is your guy.

Speaker 15:
[64:31] Gavin is already...

Speaker 17:
[64:32] No, I hired Lonnie the day before.

Speaker 15:
[64:37] Yeah, but you and Lonnie tour.

Speaker 17:
[64:39] No, no, of course. But Kenyon, I said Kenyon, Kenyon is a solo artist, you know what I'm saying? Like he's a real solo artist on the road touring all of these things. And there was no way I was going to have Kenyon singing with me and not sing lead and not get a standout moment. You know what I'm saying? Like when you sing with Tyrese, you got to let Tyrese do all the lead singing. When you sing with Tank, you get to sing lead.

Speaker 1:
[65:07] Okay, that's nice. That got to be nice. That's nice. Well, listen man, you did exactly what me and everybody up here thought you would do. Belt to absolute ass. But I mean, R&B wins at the end of the day. TGT fans win at the end of the day. So that was really good to see. Proud of both of you brothers for just making my night that much more enjoyable and memorable. Thank you for that.

Speaker 17:
[65:31] Come on, man. Y'all having the conversation, man, was more than enough for me, man, because we value when our brothers build something, platforms like yours, man, and do great things. And you got the voice that people are tuning into and listening to, and just you guys having that conversation back and forth about it. And it contributed to our win. So I thank y'all as well, man.

Speaker 1:
[65:56] I hated Trey Songz sweatsuit. I'm just telling you that, and then I'm going to shut up. I hated that sweatsuit.

Speaker 17:
[66:06] Can I explain Trey Songz sweatsuit?

Speaker 10:
[66:07] He explained it.

Speaker 17:
[66:08] Go ahead. Trey was not supposed to be there. Me and Trey hadn't talked about that. This is literally the day of, hours before, he was like, what's the playlist, dog? Send it to me so I can leak it. I was like, man, I ain't leaking no playlist. I said, but if you was here, I'd just throw you on stage. He said, give me a second. And all of a sudden, somebody said, Trace Holtz is backstage.

Speaker 1:
[66:31] See why you can't be nice?

Speaker 6:
[66:33] That's exactly why you can't. You two, you're such a nice dude. All right, I'm chugging up.

Speaker 1:
[66:38] Listen, that was great.

Speaker 6:
[66:39] I have no comments on it.

Speaker 1:
[66:41] Everybody, go ahead, B.Dot got a question.

Speaker 10:
[66:42] Hey, yo, Tank, are we going to get the CDQ of Turtleneck?

Speaker 1:
[66:45] Oh, Turtleneck.

Speaker 8:
[66:47] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[66:49] We need the CDQ of Turtleneck, man.

Speaker 17:
[66:51] So do I need, do I actually need to make the record?

Speaker 8:
[66:54] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[66:55] You have to now.

Speaker 8:
[66:55] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[66:56] You absolutely have to.

Speaker 17:
[66:57] And do you want it like the same, with the same elements that you heard from the live version or you want to?

Speaker 15:
[67:04] You can spice it up. Nah, spice it up. Spice it up, man.

Speaker 1:
[67:06] Yeah, but I still want some of the elements. Yeah, give me both. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15:
[67:09] We need that punch.

Speaker 17:
[67:11] Because I think that slight church slash R&B Turtleneck thing has a little move to it.

Speaker 1:
[67:18] It survived. It survived. Yeah, it is. Listen, man, you got me real excited to fucking come back to LA at some point and come hang out. I'm hype. I'm hype now.

Speaker 17:
[67:29] Come on, brother.

Speaker 1:
[67:30] Come on, brother.

Speaker 17:
[67:30] Come get some sunshine, baby.

Speaker 1:
[67:33] My man. Tank, we love you, man. Hold it down.

Speaker 17:
[67:36] Thank you all so much, man.

Speaker 1:
[67:37] Peace, Tank.

Speaker 10:
[67:38] Peace, bro. You got to get Carl Thomas on the Turtleneck remix.

Speaker 1:
[67:43] Shout out to Tank. Shout out to Tyrese.

Speaker 2:
[67:45] I was entertained despite it being a little disappointing from Tyrese's side. It was a good time. And I'm glad it didn't drag on.

Speaker 1:
[67:51] You know what else niggas got to stop too? I ain't going to lie. I'm sorry, Parks.

Speaker 8:
[67:55] Go ahead.

Speaker 1:
[67:57] R&B dudes that when you get into your croon, bendy knee, pick a fan in the front of the stage, hold their hand and serenade them, it don't always have to be the fattest bitch you can find.

Speaker 11:
[68:12] That was the kind of the rules.

Speaker 8:
[68:13] That is kind of the rules.

Speaker 6:
[68:14] I know, but we got it. Come on, yo.

Speaker 12:
[68:17] Everybody feels special.

Speaker 7:
[68:18] You're bugging, bro.

Speaker 5:
[68:19] For the girl in the wheelchair.

Speaker 12:
[68:21] You're bugging.

Speaker 7:
[68:22] She's going to buy every album until you 99 years old. And every girl that looks like her is going to...

Speaker 9:
[68:29] I love it.

Speaker 3:
[68:30] You do it to make yourself a good person.

Speaker 7:
[68:31] That part, too.

Speaker 5:
[68:32] You need the girl in the wheelchair, the girl with the MS I seen how to be a player.

Speaker 7:
[68:38] That's what Bill Bellamy did.

Speaker 1:
[68:39] I'm just saying, I know why it's done. I know why it's done. I'm just saying, in 2026, you could not do it.

Speaker 2:
[68:49] Some of these R&B dudes like last year.

Speaker 1:
[68:51] Listen, I feel y'all, I'm telling y'all, when I'm looking at the show.

Speaker 12:
[68:55] You're like a lot of cake, you're free.

Speaker 2:
[68:56] You're not getting all this.

Speaker 1:
[68:59] When I went to see Chris Brown, see Chris Brown like me.

Speaker 7:
[69:02] No, no, Chris Brown is filthy rich, like you. These out here trying to get hard ticket sales, you sitting on this couch talking shit. I want these big bitches in my show.

Speaker 1:
[69:13] Chris Brown look out there in the crowd.

Speaker 7:
[69:15] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[69:16] Move, fat bitch, move.

Speaker 5:
[69:18] You up, who fat, no, you fat.

Speaker 6:
[69:21] You fat, who he bring up there.

Speaker 11:
[69:23] Oh, wow.

Speaker 1:
[69:25] What?

Speaker 6:
[69:27] And then he close the shades, so he could tongue kiss them behind that.

Speaker 7:
[69:30] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[69:31] And my problem ain't with Tank singing to the real big hoe that was in the front. It was her friend. It was her friend. Did y'all see her friends?

Speaker 3:
[69:39] What her friends do?

Speaker 1:
[69:40] The dog. If she was a mess.

Speaker 12:
[69:43] Stop it, man. That's not nice. It's almost my time.

Speaker 5:
[69:45] Chill out, bro. Chill out, bro.

Speaker 3:
[69:47] But she the cutest one?

Speaker 11:
[69:48] I hate when y'all do that. I hate when y'all do that.

Speaker 2:
[69:50] Don't walk in that point by yourself.

Speaker 3:
[69:53] Don't chill. What did the friends look like?

Speaker 6:
[69:55] Go, No mess.

Speaker 3:
[69:57] She was the cutest one? Yeah, I guess. You made all big bitches?

Speaker 1:
[70:01] They wasn't none of them.

Speaker 12:
[70:02] You don't gotta go on that ledge, Lord.

Speaker 3:
[70:03] Were they all big bitches?

Speaker 1:
[70:04] But I'm not talking about they wait no more. They just wasn't.

Speaker 3:
[70:06] They was ugly.

Speaker 6:
[70:08] Yeah, Tank up there, told Budden, please don't go.

Speaker 1:
[70:12] But at some point, I think he was singing with his eyes closed.

Speaker 6:
[70:15] Because when he opened his eyes, that said, oh man, I'm singing on Tyrese's side.

Speaker 1:
[70:22] He said, let me go back to my side with the five bitches.

Speaker 6:
[70:28] He can't trick me. Anyway, congratulations to Tank. I don't care, Flip.

Speaker 1:
[70:34] Yeah, rappers don't do those shit like that.

Speaker 10:
[70:36] Yeah, let's think about that. Rappers don't bring bitches on stage.

Speaker 2:
[70:39] There don't be bitches at the show.

Speaker 1:
[70:41] No, rappers will bring a joint up. It's going to be the joint that they plan on hitting later that night. It's going to be the joint. They've been waiting.

Speaker 6:
[70:49] Rappers have that part of the show where it's just to pull out the finest thing that they've seen and keep it in.

Speaker 1:
[70:56] She don't get to go back. Stage left. Hey, go with Corey. A lot of y'all out there wondering what Corey do.

Speaker 2:
[71:04] That's how I got buried.

Speaker 3:
[71:06] That's it right there.

Speaker 1:
[71:06] That's how Corey do. Hey, go with Corey right there. And that's it.

Speaker 2:
[71:09] That's how I got buried.

Speaker 8:
[71:10] That's stupid.

Speaker 1:
[71:12] Well, go with Corey.

Speaker 8:
[71:12] No.

Speaker 6:
[71:14] Oh, my God. At the show?

Speaker 1:
[71:17] Being lusty?

Speaker 2:
[71:18] No. Well, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[71:22] Congratulations to Tank, man.

Speaker 8:
[71:23] It's a good night, man. It's a good night.

Speaker 6:
[71:25] Listen, it's time for my favorite part of the show, Prize picks.

Speaker 1:
[71:32] All right, I got to make the font big now.

Speaker 2:
[71:34] There you go. Zoom in.

Speaker 1:
[71:35] Yeah. Should be blurry as hell, man. Zap side effects. You don't believe it till it happens to you.

Speaker 2:
[71:40] Oh, God.

Speaker 1:
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Speaker 2:
[72:44] That's a good idea.

Speaker 1:
[72:45] Oh yeah, no. All right, the Ish picks of the week. I don't really fool with Jared Allen like that. Jared Allen, for more than 20 and a half points in rebounds. Homeboy from the Rockets, that I can't pronounce his name, that KD get mad at every time he touch the ball. KD hate this guy. Alprin Singoon, for more than 36 points in rebounds and assists. The Joker, for more than 24 and a half points. And Tyler Hero, for more than 19 and a half points. Don't forget, download the app right this very second and use promo code JBP for your chance to win instantly. That JBP was a little thin, and we just had the prize picks guys up here on the Patreon. That was a little thin, you guys. Don't forget to download the app right this second and use promo code JBP for your next prize. For your chance to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup only on Prize Picks, where it's good to be right. Boy, is it. That it is. Ish, do you want to take this brief second to spend a block on Marc, now that Ace Bailey is averaging 40 points in a month for that bullshit he tried to say a couple months ago?

Speaker 9:
[73:56] What did I say?

Speaker 1:
[73:57] The sun always shines. I don't do that. Yeah, you too.

Speaker 9:
[74:00] Well, what did I say? Yeah, I said I thought VJ Edgecombe had a high.

Speaker 8:
[74:04] Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9:
[74:05] I never said Ace Bailey couldn't play.

Speaker 12:
[74:08] You, you, you.

Speaker 9:
[74:09] I said VJ Edgecombe was ahead of him. And I think he's going to be a better player. I still think that.

Speaker 1:
[74:14] Overall?

Speaker 13:
[74:14] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[74:15] Long term?

Speaker 13:
[74:16] Yeah.

Speaker 9:
[74:16] I didn't think that, I didn't think that when they were drafting him, but now I do have to watch in the season. I think Ace Bailey is going to be a great player and I think VJ Edgecombe is going to be a great player. All right.

Speaker 1:
[74:24] Let's keep the morale going, man. Let's keep the morale going high up in this piece. What we got? What we got? What we got? How y'all feeling? Feeling good.

Speaker 9:
[74:32] I feel good.

Speaker 1:
[74:33] Wherever y'all want to go. New music, B Dot?

Speaker 10:
[74:35] Yeah. Why not, man?

Speaker 2:
[74:36] Come on.

Speaker 1:
[74:36] Some Stove God. What we got?

Speaker 2:
[74:38] Stove God did not drop.

Speaker 10:
[74:39] Not quite. He was supposed to drop yesterday, but didn't happen.

Speaker 2:
[74:42] Dropped a track listing.

Speaker 10:
[74:44] Yes, he did.

Speaker 2:
[74:44] But no date. So we're on waiting time. Still beefing with his label.

Speaker 10:
[74:50] I think that's going to be forever in perpetuity. And Nicki Minaj was supposed to drop, too.

Speaker 2:
[74:56] That's true.

Speaker 10:
[74:57] That didn't happen.

Speaker 1:
[74:58] It's quiet.

Speaker 2:
[74:58] Kanye was supposed to drop, didn't happen.

Speaker 10:
[75:00] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[75:01] Oh, it's just fucking...

Speaker 10:
[75:02] But Juvenile dropped his new album, Boiling Point. That's really good. Fetty Wap dropped his album, Xaviyah. There's a couple of joints in there I like.

Speaker 1:
[75:09] The Fetty Wap album, Shout to Fetty Big Jersey.

Speaker 2:
[75:13] Patterson, what up?

Speaker 1:
[75:14] I purchased all of the songs that are R&B sounding songs.

Speaker 2:
[75:20] Most of it was R&B to me.

Speaker 5:
[75:22] It has a jazz kind of...

Speaker 2:
[75:25] Yeah, it's jazzy.

Speaker 1:
[75:27] Yeah, all of this, I fuck with it. This is on Fetty Wap's project. This is called Spot Back featuring Rob McCoy. All right, my app is up.

Speaker 10:
[76:23] But he got some bangers on there. I think with or what, that might be my favorite dream on there. It feels like Air Max 95 kind of weather. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:
[76:31] Yeah, there's some good shit on this. There's some shot bugs and the whole team over there. I haven't gotten all the way through it, but it's good for first listen.

Speaker 10:
[76:38] I like that too.

Speaker 1:
[76:39] Yeah. I enjoy this Tink record. It's called Nasty. I do like a lot of the beats on this project. They're very Fetty Wap.

Speaker 2:
[77:01] For sure.

Speaker 1:
[77:13] Yeah, I like all the top shit.

Speaker 10:
[77:14] First listen is a good project. G Herbo has a nice verse on there too.

Speaker 1:
[77:17] Yeah, they shot the video the other day, they shot the Herbo.

Speaker 7:
[77:20] Throw out a couple of dollars to that one.

Speaker 1:
[77:22] Come out. Come out tonight.

Speaker 7:
[77:23] I don't got no money.

Speaker 1:
[77:24] I got you. Come on. Come on. Still, I got you. Come on. Old school.

Speaker 9:
[77:29] Old school, like we used to do.

Speaker 7:
[77:30] No, you ain't used to giving me no money back there.

Speaker 5:
[77:34] Old school, like I used to throw you a couple.

Speaker 12:
[77:36] No, Yo, you're fucking ego.

Speaker 1:
[77:39] When I had it, sometimes you would borrow from me because we lived outside.

Speaker 6:
[77:43] And when you had it, I would borrow from you.

Speaker 12:
[77:45] I know.

Speaker 6:
[77:45] So don't get ego away, dawg.

Speaker 1:
[77:48] Yes.

Speaker 7:
[77:48] Yo, you crazy, son.

Speaker 6:
[77:49] It's OK.

Speaker 3:
[77:50] We used to loan each other money.

Speaker 6:
[77:52] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[77:53] Pay it back too? Uh.

Speaker 7:
[77:57] Because sometimes we go in there and it's not even like it's not like that.

Speaker 1:
[78:01] It just be you know when your man is met a joint in the spot and is on full erect and he don't want to go home now.

Speaker 6:
[78:08] You can tell when your man fell in love in there and he at the ATM.

Speaker 1:
[78:12] And that's when it's going shaky at the ATM. And sometimes you can't get it out.

Speaker 8:
[78:16] Then it's, yo, yo, you got a couple hundred.

Speaker 1:
[78:20] We was broke, we was working miracles with a couple hundred dollars. Fuck all that, you look pretty shit. Beedog was talking about.

Speaker 11:
[78:27] That's a nice dress. Nice dress.

Speaker 2:
[78:29] That might work with a couple hundred.

Speaker 10:
[78:31] Right. Yo, the amount of women that hit me up, told me thank you, Beedog, that was so nice. Like, it was overwhelming, by the way.

Speaker 5:
[78:37] I meant to tell that about you.

Speaker 1:
[78:39] I mean, you was tweeting all week about it. You was tweeting all week, yeah, I like women with clasps and they don't.

Speaker 5:
[78:44] He don't miss nothing.

Speaker 10:
[78:46] I thought I had you blocked, Joe.

Speaker 1:
[78:47] No, I see everything. If you wrote it, I read it, for sure.

Speaker 2:
[78:51] What type of girl do you like?

Speaker 10:
[78:53] Beautiful woman, black woman.

Speaker 9:
[78:55] Beautiful black.

Speaker 3:
[78:56] He knows what to say.

Speaker 9:
[78:58] While he was talking to his son and us, he was on FaceTime with a girl. You are a rat, man.

Speaker 3:
[79:02] Yeah, they be over here.

Speaker 9:
[79:02] Actually, you're a rat. You're talking shit to us while FaceTimeing with a girl. You're just frightened.

Speaker 3:
[79:07] You don't want that scene.

Speaker 9:
[79:08] That's why I thought he was talking a little different. Is she blowing kisses and shit?

Speaker 3:
[79:14] So, you don't have a type, B.Dot? You don't have a thing like thick, thin, what?

Speaker 1:
[79:18] Ray Strummer said that, and then nobody had a type no more.

Speaker 10:
[79:21] Not like, you know, black women, thick women, big asses, pretty faces, titties, titties.

Speaker 12:
[79:28] It don't sound right, Coach. We gotta stop, man. It's like what you like. It don't sound right.

Speaker 1:
[79:36] He emphasized in the words, right?

Speaker 9:
[79:37] Titties.

Speaker 10:
[79:40] I think we have to go have verses with women, man. Yeah, I care.

Speaker 1:
[79:48] I think B-Dot is sunny-ish and flip when it comes to women.

Speaker 12:
[79:53] I'm married.

Speaker 7:
[79:53] Watch your mouth, B. You trying to get a moment.

Speaker 12:
[79:57] I don't play with, but if I wasn't married, that's the word by no B-Dot. Good afternoon, good afternoon. I saw you in the woods. I don't know what that means. What did you talk about? That outfit. Oh! Oh, that's nothing, that's nothing. I know how to go out there and cause traction myself. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 11:
[80:24] I don't have to jump everywhere.

Speaker 10:
[80:25] Nah, that was a bad outfit though.

Speaker 12:
[80:26] It could be bad, but don't stop me. Don't stop me, you know why I'm going with this. Don't stop me.

Speaker 7:
[80:31] No, he's trying to get a moment from me.

Speaker 12:
[80:32] Yeah, I know how to get to the moments, my. So, let's get to the moments. What I'm saying is that nobody give a fuck about none of that shit. You talk about titties and ass. Just keep it. I mean, we got you, man.

Speaker 10:
[80:43] You don't like titties and ass?

Speaker 12:
[80:44] I do, but the way you said it, you wasn't confident in it.

Speaker 1:
[80:47] You like them thin mints.

Speaker 12:
[80:48] Yeah, you like the Karens and shit like that, the Rebeccas and the Stacey's. It doesn't sound like you like black women just now. It doesn't sound like that. Black! You made the black... So right, we got you, bro. I support you, Queenz, whatever you like I like. I'm down. You like a little lactose or motherfucking 2% milk, almond, I'm down. Bobby, I fuck with you, bro.

Speaker 9:
[81:11] Tension on the Joe Budden Podcast.

Speaker 3:
[81:13] How do you feel about Foopas?

Speaker 12:
[81:14] I fuck with Beat Out. I love them all.

Speaker 5:
[81:17] You like big girls?

Speaker 10:
[81:18] I mean, like how big? We talking.

Speaker 3:
[81:19] Okay.

Speaker 5:
[81:20] R&B show.

Speaker 9:
[81:21] It depends.

Speaker 3:
[81:21] I got you.

Speaker 9:
[81:22] Yeah. She might get pulled on stage at an R&B show.

Speaker 10:
[81:26] I mean, it depends. I mean, it's not necessarily.

Speaker 7:
[81:29] It's not gonna work.

Speaker 12:
[81:30] Leave him alone.

Speaker 7:
[81:31] It's not gonna work.

Speaker 1:
[81:32] All I would like is an opening to try.

Speaker 10:
[81:34] Pause.

Speaker 12:
[81:34] Okay.

Speaker 8:
[81:36] Ish.

Speaker 1:
[81:40] You don't want that verse of smoke would beat out when it come to the girls. I know.

Speaker 12:
[81:44] You're right.

Speaker 1:
[81:44] Seriously. No, you're right. Like on that couch, you second place. When ice is there, you're in first.

Speaker 12:
[81:49] Watch your mouth about freeze.

Speaker 1:
[81:53] That ain't your man. That ain't your man sitting there. Yeah, Second place.

Speaker 7:
[81:58] In what?

Speaker 1:
[81:59] In a woman versus.

Speaker 4:
[82:01] I know. Y'all don't know he can't help but talk from his ego.

Speaker 7:
[82:06] I said okay.

Speaker 3:
[82:07] Hook, line, sinker.

Speaker 1:
[82:08] Yeah, but you say it like it's unbelievable, You don't believe it.

Speaker 6:
[82:11] Who don't believe it?

Speaker 1:
[82:13] All due respect. Who don't believe it?

Speaker 7:
[82:14] You.

Speaker 1:
[82:16] Damn, That's the God biker gang.

Speaker 6:
[82:20] You say I don't believe it.

Speaker 7:
[82:21] That's the helicopter teller you shut your dumb ass up.

Speaker 1:
[82:23] I believe it depends on the location.

Speaker 7:
[82:25] What location? Okay.

Speaker 1:
[82:26] It depends on the location.

Speaker 3:
[82:28] Like what?

Speaker 1:
[82:29] Where are y'all?

Speaker 6:
[82:32] Earth.

Speaker 3:
[82:32] Harlem.

Speaker 6:
[82:35] I think there's some places that Ish catches a dub.

Speaker 1:
[82:37] I think there's some places B.Dot catches a dub.

Speaker 9:
[82:39] I don't.

Speaker 3:
[82:40] Y'all are both attractive in a different way. Like if you like yellow niggas, you make yellow like challenge me.

Speaker 7:
[82:44] Why are you comparing me to B.Dot? Compare me to you, nigga.

Speaker 3:
[82:47] Oh, shit.

Speaker 4:
[82:48] is you talking about? There we go.

Speaker 7:
[82:49] Like don't do that, my. You ain't gotta bring a third party, Compare me to you.

Speaker 8:
[82:53] Yeah, yeah, what?

Speaker 6:
[83:02] Why does he talk to me like that?

Speaker 12:
[83:04] Don't talk to him like that, You're playing on his name, man.

Speaker 9:
[83:07] You don't try to make a moment with B.Dot. No, we want you in the middle of the ring.

Speaker 8:
[83:12] Go ahead.

Speaker 12:
[83:12] Throw a beat out in there. Be that man in his business. like what he like, That is my best. Be that man. What's that shit?

Speaker 3:
[83:25] So, B.Dot's a titty man, right?

Speaker 10:
[83:27] I'm an everything man.

Speaker 1:
[83:31] Not a feat, Get out of here.

Speaker 2:
[83:33] You got me?

Speaker 9:
[83:35] All right, come on.

Speaker 1:
[83:36] What was we on? Music? I'm going to try and get Ish in there. I'm gonna try to get Ish in the game later.

Speaker 9:
[83:42] Music, music, music, music. I didn't hear much I enjoyed.

Speaker 2:
[83:45] I like Juvenile State.

Speaker 9:
[83:47] It's a good listen.

Speaker 2:
[83:47] Yeah, it's hit and miss a little bit, but the hits, I like a lot.

Speaker 3:
[83:51] Yeah, the hits hit.

Speaker 2:
[83:52] Yeah, the hits hit. Him and Manny work good. The Lenny Kravitz record they talked about up here, I really enjoyed that.

Speaker 10:
[83:58] Birdman makes a couple of appearances, too.

Speaker 2:
[84:00] Popped up a couple of times.

Speaker 3:
[84:01] I couldn't have did without him.

Speaker 10:
[84:03] I know you guys aren't big on the UK rap, but my man Central C put out a new EP.

Speaker 2:
[84:08] I fuck with him.

Speaker 10:
[84:09] Okay. That EP is strong.

Speaker 2:
[84:12] Jesse Reyes dropped the EP as well. Speaking of EP, I'm a big Jesse Reyes fan. It sounded good. Still paid. El Mene or El... I can't pronounce names. I don't know. I'm sorry that I butchered every time. He dropped a tape. Sounds for someone with no ID. Sounds like he executive produced it. He's credited on nine of the 12 records. It sounded good.

Speaker 10:
[84:34] You know he's a virgin?

Speaker 2:
[84:35] Excuse me?

Speaker 10:
[84:36] He's a virgin.

Speaker 2:
[84:36] No ID or?

Speaker 10:
[84:37] No. Ellen, that guy.

Speaker 1:
[84:39] I'm about to say, if no ID is saying that, I can promise you it's not the guy.

Speaker 2:
[84:47] He's saving himself from marriage.

Speaker 1:
[84:48] You don't want to step on nobody's lives. Who's a virgin? AC Green still ain't got no pussy.

Speaker 10:
[84:57] I don't know how to pronounce his name. I'm butchering it, but him. He revealed that in an interview. I was like, oh, okay.

Speaker 1:
[85:01] Growing up, it was only AC Green that was a virgin. And Malik Rose.

Speaker 3:
[85:04] Is he waiting or something?

Speaker 6:
[85:06] Malik Rose.

Speaker 10:
[85:06] I think he's a Muslim, so.

Speaker 3:
[85:08] He's waiting on marriage.

Speaker 6:
[85:11] Oh, you're thinking like I'm thinking.

Speaker 1:
[85:13] I've been on that one since 99.

Speaker 12:
[85:15] Malik Rose will fuck you up.

Speaker 1:
[85:18] Well, Malik Rose we used to see in the club sometimes. He was a cool dude, but that don't change what I think.

Speaker 9:
[85:24] I think he's a cool dude. Knowing him.

Speaker 6:
[85:26] Okay.

Speaker 9:
[85:28] I definitely think, for sure, that he's a cool dude.

Speaker 1:
[85:30] Thousand percent, the coolest. Yeah.

Speaker 12:
[85:33] What do you think about him?

Speaker 9:
[85:35] I think he's cool.

Speaker 12:
[85:36] He on the other side?

Speaker 9:
[85:37] I don't know what Joe did.

Speaker 3:
[85:38] What do you think, Joe?

Speaker 1:
[85:39] Walk-in closet.

Speaker 6:
[85:40] Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:
[85:41] The biggest one.

Speaker 12:
[85:43] Really?

Speaker 1:
[85:43] You think so?

Speaker 13:
[85:44] Yeah, he does.

Speaker 6:
[85:47] That's why I hate with this guy.

Speaker 12:
[85:49] The shit with the double doors?

Speaker 1:
[85:52] Shit with vanities in there.

Speaker 9:
[85:54] I don't think that's true. As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, look, I feel like a girl, he shot at one time. In fact, I know he did.

Speaker 3:
[86:04] But that doesn't mean anything, though.

Speaker 1:
[86:05] That don't mean nothing to me.

Speaker 3:
[86:07] Whenever people say stuff like, Joe said, whatever you say after, it doesn't matter, because we drew the kids, it doesn't matter. We all know now that none of that matters, right?

Speaker 1:
[86:18] Allegedly, y'all, allegedly. But anyway, listen, are y'all done with all the hip hop shit? Because I got R&B shit to get to.

Speaker 3:
[86:25] I think we did it. I think that's about it.

Speaker 2:
[86:27] The Lockstrap single never changed.

Speaker 1:
[86:29] That too? Oh, I need to hear that. No, that one we need to play, because that hook was crazy, that beat is crazy. Sheik was the first verse on there, right? Oh, the Philly people are doing something. Philly, shut the up.

Speaker 13:
[86:42] It's pretty funny.

Speaker 1:
[86:44] That's why we like to hear it. Hey, let's go, Sheik. Yo, Sheik, on the opening verse, don't get enough love when he opens the joint.

Speaker 2:
[86:57] He don't get enough love in general.

Speaker 1:
[86:58] Very.

Speaker 8:
[86:58] It's true. Come on, come on, come on, come on.

Speaker 1:
[88:18] These dudes is nice. This is great. Shout out to styles, Kiss, Sheik, the whole locks, whole yonkers. Shout out to J. Juan, shout out to Jaheem. That's a joint. That is a joint. I meant to tell y'all a couple of weeks ago when my dad, when we had the surprise birthday party for my dad celebrating his 70th. I meant to come back in here and say, cause all his friends came. A lot of people love my dad. Shout out to him. I love that. But when Jaheem comes on at like an older person party, comes up, dog, that's like not older, 52 and up.

Speaker 10:
[88:53] They love him like that?

Speaker 2:
[88:54] 52, that was very specific.

Speaker 7:
[88:59] You ain't gotta be in the 70s.

Speaker 6:
[89:00] I don't mean the 70s.

Speaker 7:
[89:01] Jaheem was, yeah.

Speaker 6:
[89:02] We can start at 50, 50 and up.

Speaker 7:
[89:04] 50 and up.

Speaker 1:
[89:05] Jaheem said, Dinah goes crazy. That shit's like the Benjamins coming on this shit. One more chance. That shit's like a bad boy set. Okay, enough of the games. Enough of the games. I had this album for a few weeks in my phone. I want to thank you artists out there that send me the link to the album to hear it early. I appreciate that. I'm forever grateful. I'm a music lover. Also, I hate when the link expires. Yeah, word. Because if your album is heat, I'm going to continue to go to the link. Boy, this link kept expiring. I kept hitting Jozzy. Yo, send me another link, send me another link, send me another link. I'm like a crankhead.

Speaker 7:
[89:42] Yo, dog, everything I heard is...

Speaker 1:
[89:45] On this project here, boy, I tell you, boy, I got to tell you.

Speaker 9:
[89:55] Oh.

Speaker 1:
[90:00] This is Hope. Why does the mic sound like that? They don't feel me yet. This is True To Me off that jazzy available right now in your phone and on DSPs.

Speaker 6:
[91:15] Let's go, Cardiac.

Speaker 1:
[92:23] It's fire on there. It's fire on there. I ain't gonna beat y'all down, cause I had about three more joints just ready to go. But that Jozzy project is absolutely tough. Everything hurt.

Speaker 3:
[92:33] I've been crazy for years.

Speaker 4:
[92:34] She's the beast.

Speaker 1:
[92:35] Yeah, congratulations. That's the one I was waiting up for. So shout out to Jozzy. Think last night she had a little private album release party.

Speaker 4:
[92:43] Okay.

Speaker 12:
[92:44] Nice.

Speaker 1:
[92:45] That I went to or didn't go to, depending on the nightshakes I got to see. I got to hail one of them Fridays.

Speaker 5:
[92:50] She got a lot of spots to.

Speaker 4:
[92:52] Jozzy with the release party tonight.

Speaker 2:
[92:54] Strip Club.

Speaker 4:
[92:55] Rock on.

Speaker 1:
[92:55] Had a little birthday shindig.

Speaker 4:
[92:57] He doing it around the corner.

Speaker 10:
[92:59] Cardi had a last show last night to at Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 2:
[93:03] Did you go?

Speaker 3:
[93:03] No, I didn't go. Jozzy had a birthday party at a Bolognani, but it was like private only. Every bitch in here was bad. Every bitch in here. She looked like she got the, she looked like she asked the Bolognani to only let the cute waitresses and shit work here.

Speaker 5:
[93:18] The bitch that gave me the shoes was bad. She get to them.

Speaker 1:
[93:20] She got them. She came up here too. She came up here. Friend of the show, she came up here and let us know how she's running through bitches.

Speaker 6:
[93:27] Like a madam? Oh shit, and then I forgot that night she came with me to the strip club.

Speaker 3:
[93:32] How was that?

Speaker 1:
[93:33] Fun.

Speaker 3:
[93:34] Yeah, Jozzy fun.

Speaker 1:
[93:35] She's a queerie. She had some work with her.

Speaker 7:
[93:36] You gonna rent her video? You gonna rent her video?

Speaker 1:
[93:44] No, he was too scared when the baby was here.

Speaker 3:
[93:46] You know what? I'm really disappointed, y'all, because I could have begged them. Oh. And y'all made it hard.

Speaker 7:
[93:51] Hey, yo, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3:
[93:53] I should have stuck with Flip. I should have stuck with Flip because he walked in and straight, excuse me, Joe Schmo, what's up, Flip? That flip up. I should have just rolled with Flip. You really, I'm disappointed. Like if that's an example of how you gonna act when we at the strip club together and your rapper friend come in and I say, I want him, I don't want your help, bro. I thought you were smoother than that.

Speaker 1:
[94:12] I'm one of the best fucking wingmen on earth.

Speaker 3:
[94:14] Show me, show me.

Speaker 1:
[94:17] Don't judge my wingman performance by my podcast.

Speaker 5:
[94:21] Oh, please, please.

Speaker 1:
[94:23] It's not the same.

Speaker 12:
[94:24] Hold on, you think you're the top W man?

Speaker 3:
[94:26] Make me a believer.

Speaker 12:
[94:27] Are you a good W man, but a man, I meant Lice Can Hope might be a...

Speaker 1:
[94:31] No, I'm not trying to compare to nobody. I'm not thinking about anybody else, Doug, but I'm pretty good at that.

Speaker 3:
[94:37] I don't know, y'all. Yeah, you should prove it.

Speaker 12:
[94:39] Now, you're a good W man.

Speaker 3:
[94:42] I sit on this couch right here, I ain't getting nothing.

Speaker 12:
[94:44] No, it's said you're a good W man.

Speaker 10:
[94:45] Nice with it.

Speaker 1:
[94:47] That's the chat streamer talk. I'm too old for that. Wingman.

Speaker 12:
[94:51] Nah, W.

Speaker 1:
[94:52] Me, wingman, consider it done. Nice little Chris Paul.

Speaker 3:
[94:56] Is it wig or no wig?

Speaker 1:
[94:58] Well, when you go out.

Speaker 12:
[95:00] No wig.

Speaker 1:
[95:00] I like it natural here.

Speaker 3:
[95:01] All right.

Speaker 7:
[95:02] Little Chris Paul.

Speaker 1:
[95:03] Look, your little comedian homeboy mad over it. Yeah, I'm hooking up with two, Mona got Mona got somebody with her that's a comedian that she go on tour with. He was here the other day, too, for The Rewind Show. That means that they've been together for a few days. And Mona came in here with red panties on showing. Oh, my God. So what am I supposed to think? I've been on tour before. I know when that late night not come. He sat up now, I start talking about him.

Speaker 12:
[95:30] He put his phone, he try to sneak record. Did we see you boy? Yeah, we see you on the hit.

Speaker 1:
[95:36] We're joking, we ain't gonna hook up with nobody.

Speaker 12:
[95:38] He got a little surgery.

Speaker 1:
[95:41] Nah, we're focused on Keith.

Speaker 3:
[95:43] I had to give him a speech before we came in here. Y'all rough. I'm like, look, they might act like they don't want you around.

Speaker 11:
[95:48] But they just tease you.

Speaker 1:
[95:50] One day in life, I want to be taken off of the, a speech needs to be given before this person comes in.

Speaker 6:
[95:57] I want to be taken off that list.

Speaker 3:
[95:58] What's the wait for the afterlife?

Speaker 12:
[95:59] You stand next to.

Speaker 1:
[96:00] I think that's so corny, yo.

Speaker 3:
[96:02] You gotta give a speech before you bring me around, Joey.

Speaker 11:
[96:04] Because Joey, he don't like humans.

Speaker 7:
[96:07] because you could say some inappropriate shit.

Speaker 3:
[96:09] And you don't like humans.

Speaker 12:
[96:10] Nah, he been nice to anybody that I brought him here.

Speaker 3:
[96:13] He'll be nice to the guests.

Speaker 12:
[96:16] I brought mad people up here, and they love him. They say, yo, the guy that I watch on the internet and him took completely different people. Everybody came with a different...

Speaker 7:
[96:22] Oh, you brought mad people up here?

Speaker 12:
[96:23] Yeah, I did. Oh. When I had an improper improv, Oh, oh yeah. You forgot? Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[96:28] I forgot.

Speaker 10:
[96:30] Thank you.

Speaker 12:
[96:32] They all love him, though.

Speaker 9:
[96:32] I definitely get a speech, though. My wife's coming up here later. I was like, yeah, you know, just remember.

Speaker 11:
[96:36] You definitely gotta get a wife a speech.

Speaker 12:
[96:37] What's the show?

Speaker 9:
[96:38] The OG company.

Speaker 7:
[96:39] You don't have to give me a wife a speech.

Speaker 9:
[96:41] No, not from, like, about Flip, right? More about how the show goes. She'll watch the Patreon. She'll hear some shit.

Speaker 12:
[96:46] You know, you say, yo, Flip gonna say some shit.

Speaker 9:
[96:48] That kind of speech, not the, you know he did.

Speaker 1:
[96:50] And I didn't assume that I was the only one the speech was about. Like, I thought it was a few people.

Speaker 9:
[96:55] Oh, yeah. For me, it's just the roof.

Speaker 12:
[96:57] Yeah, more top line.

Speaker 1:
[96:59] With you, it's just me, right?

Speaker 12:
[96:59] It's about Flip. My wife likes you.

Speaker 11:
[97:01] My wife likes you.

Speaker 9:
[97:02] I don't get it, but my wife likes you.

Speaker 12:
[97:04] I love it.

Speaker 3:
[97:05] People like Flip. If I was coming to just meet you, I wouldn't give a speech, but you're all together. I have to get it.

Speaker 9:
[97:09] That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 10:
[97:10] Is there a rule about bringing people here?

Speaker 1:
[97:12] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[97:13] Nobody can do it but me. It's the rule, basically.

Speaker 1:
[97:16] She comes from very far, so she brings somebody different every week. It'll be a new Keith next week.

Speaker 11:
[97:22] Kevin. You know, I put it there.

Speaker 10:
[97:27] I can't bring a homie from Jamaica Avenue here.

Speaker 1:
[97:29] Once Mona finished, she told us to back this up. Anyway.

Speaker 8:
[97:34] We'll keep that.

Speaker 1:
[97:36] Mona brings somebody different. Who else? Flip used to do that. We put a caboose on that.

Speaker 8:
[97:40] We didn't put a caboose.

Speaker 12:
[97:41] Watch it, mom.

Speaker 1:
[97:41] We put a caboose on that.

Speaker 12:
[97:42] Watch it, Mizzo.

Speaker 1:
[97:43] Too much coming on.

Speaker 9:
[97:44] I don't say caboose.

Speaker 12:
[97:45] Watch it. Why you stop my flow? This shit was at, this shit was like.

Speaker 1:
[97:51] That's why. And that's why.

Speaker 12:
[97:52] This shit was like the tunnel up here. That's why.

Speaker 9:
[97:54] Yo, one day, it was crazy up here.

Speaker 12:
[97:56] It was like the tunnel up here.

Speaker 3:
[97:59] He brought a Marazzi man one time.

Speaker 9:
[98:01] Like five of them.

Speaker 12:
[98:02] Plus five?

Speaker 9:
[98:03] I had to go out there and say, let's pray.

Speaker 12:
[98:05] No, no, my people-

Speaker 1:
[98:06] Bida, these started bringing, like, Imani brought a crew of chicks out here for my birthday, stuffed them in the back room when they came to me.

Speaker 9:
[98:16] Oh, yeah!

Speaker 6:
[98:16] Dog, you know how much shit I almost got hit?

Speaker 1:
[98:19] No, no, enough now.

Speaker 12:
[98:21] You know what it is?

Speaker 6:
[98:22] Because don't fly somebody up.

Speaker 12:
[98:24] That's what it is. So here's the thing.

Speaker 1:
[98:27] That's where your homie will get you in trouble, right?

Speaker 12:
[98:30] We bring people up here, and then he's just extremely nice. So when he's nice, we talk about it. And when you talk about it publicly, your partners may see it. So when I'm just hyped that my friends just appreciate being around them, but I'm not realizing that, well, I realize, but I don't take it into consideration in that moment. Like, yo, my, you ill, good-looking. You made them feel good, not realizing that your OG is watching from behind, from the shadows. Who flip-flopped up there? What you doing?

Speaker 1:
[98:55] So yeah, the rule is don't. Okay. Don't bring anybody up here.

Speaker 12:
[98:58] I'm bringing more people up here.

Speaker 1:
[99:00] Unless it's your wife or your kid. And even Marc Kidd got that rule about to change.

Speaker 5:
[99:04] Oh my God.

Speaker 3:
[99:10] Listen, and you know that Marc always, oh, he speaks Spanish, he a little gay, like he so bad. That bad as a. Diablo! He is bad, a coyote.

Speaker 1:
[99:21] I'm wait, I want to be around when Marc pop him for the first time.

Speaker 13:
[99:25] He don't believe in hitting kids.

Speaker 3:
[99:26] No, don't pop him, but when he was playing wrestling with him, he choked that out a little bit like this. I just, I just, I seen it.

Speaker 9:
[99:31] I just detained him a little bit.

Speaker 4:
[99:33] And listen, and you know, you know, normally you be leaving him alone, I him up, him up. That boy need his ass.

Speaker 9:
[99:40] I signed him up for karate this week. So I think we're gonna, some of his energy is going to go somewhere else. I signed him up.

Speaker 3:
[99:46] You're a hosepool just like that hoodie. That bad. And let me tell you something. In the black community, y'all notice at home, when it's the little light skinned boy with that little blonde ginger type of tent.

Speaker 11:
[99:56] Them be the worst.

Speaker 4:
[99:57] I'm telling you.

Speaker 9:
[99:58] What's that got a blonde ginger tent?

Speaker 3:
[99:59] That's what I seen.

Speaker 9:
[100:00] He got ginger.

Speaker 4:
[100:02] He got a little redish tip. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1:
[100:04] That bad.

Speaker 3:
[100:05] He bad. He smart. He bilingual.

Speaker 8:
[100:08] He is smart.

Speaker 1:
[100:08] I want to be around.

Speaker 8:
[100:09] He brought my hoodie.

Speaker 1:
[100:10] I want to be around with my papa. Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[100:11] I love that.

Speaker 1:
[100:13] Sometimes you be hanging out with like the kids. Like I'm going to my aunt Catherine's 90th birthday party. Oh, shit. Shouldn't have said that. No, it sounds to her.

Speaker 4:
[100:18] Oh, man. Anyway.

Speaker 3:
[100:19] You want me to take it off?

Speaker 1:
[100:21] No, no. It's fine. It's just my family be there. Sometimes you be around kids and you see them being bad and you don't say nothing cause they ain't your kid. And then they parent come out and they're like, Billy, I told you, pow! And you still be sitting there, hit a kid crying in front of you. The parent walk away.

Speaker 9:
[100:38] People don't hit other people's kids.

Speaker 6:
[100:39] You be sitting there like, oh, good for you.

Speaker 8:
[100:41] No, you're kidding me. You serious?

Speaker 9:
[100:43] You think people should hit other people's kids?

Speaker 10:
[100:44] I was raised that way. My dad used to beat strangers.

Speaker 3:
[100:47] Yeah.

Speaker 9:
[100:48] That explains a lot.

Speaker 3:
[100:49] No. And you know what? I agree. And I think that, let me tell you why. Because back in the day, you did some wild shit in your neighborhood. And on your way home, you got fucked up. The lady at the store did something. That lady on the block. And that's what was lost. When I was growing up, if the parent went to the parent, they would fist fight each other. Like you wouldn't do, it just changed. It changed from, you bring him home, saying, I whipped his ass, that's what he did. And he got another ass whooping too. Why the fuck you talk to my son like that? And then the other two parents is fighting.

Speaker 9:
[101:16] And this still is.

Speaker 3:
[101:18] Listen, we are in a dangerous time, but I think that part of community is lost. That we don't take care of each other's kids. It's not about him. No, no, no.

Speaker 9:
[101:24] That's what I'm saying. Taking care of each other's kids is cool. I mean, I grew up, when I was five years old walking in the store, if I did some dumb shit, somebody will walk me, they will walk me back to the crib, tell my parent. They weren't just fucking me up on all your road. They weren't just like, whoop my ass. Like that ain't how we did it.

Speaker 5:
[101:37] But the generation before that, that's what happened with them.

Speaker 7:
[101:40] And it depends on the neighborhood.

Speaker 1:
[101:41] And you was a good kid.

Speaker 7:
[101:42] Back in the day, it was a village.

Speaker 1:
[101:43] He was a real good kid. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 7:
[101:44] It was a village before. Like if Sharon whipped your ass, your mother knew Sharon was whipping your ass with good reason.

Speaker 1:
[101:49] Right.

Speaker 7:
[101:50] Because your mother trusted Sharon. Nowadays, your mother don't know Sharon.

Speaker 1:
[101:54] Your mother would have point one neighbor, one person that could whip your ass, not the whole neighborhood.

Speaker 9:
[101:59] You're talking like it was a gauntlet.

Speaker 3:
[102:03] It's a thing. It's a time thing. I'm talking about people that grew up in the 60s, the 50s. The 70s are a little different. 80s a little different. But me growing up in the 90s, I watched parents fight each other. That's all that happened. It would be a huge fight because something happened with the kids. We playing double dutch and now everybody fighting.

Speaker 12:
[102:17] Crack. I went to a school that-

Speaker 3:
[102:18] Crack. I mean, it destroyed the neighborhood.

Speaker 12:
[102:20] I went to a school that whooped my ass, Like my mother signed me up for that. That's how much trouble I got.

Speaker 2:
[102:24] What kind of school was it?

Speaker 3:
[102:25] Like alternative?

Speaker 12:
[102:26] No, it was a- Or was it like a Catholic school?

Speaker 1:
[102:29] It wasn't a school.

Speaker 12:
[102:30] No, it wasn't. It was a- It was a seven day invented school. It was Calmer Christian in Brooklyn. They whooped my ass.

Speaker 1:
[102:34] They were a belt.

Speaker 3:
[102:34] And they used rulers, right?

Speaker 12:
[102:35] Yeah, the teachers used to beat me.

Speaker 1:
[102:37] But you didn't change. Chicky nugget.

Speaker 11:
[102:39] It didn't change.

Speaker 12:
[102:42] I told you you lost your seat, you bitch ass. Yeah, Chicky Nugget that, out of here.

Speaker 1:
[102:46] My mom neighbor across the street in Queens, when my mom would go to work and I would break every single rule that was laid out. I'm talking about punishment, being out at a certain time. I was climbing in and out of windows.

Speaker 7:
[103:03] Ms. Tina going to rap, Ms. Tina going to rap.

Speaker 1:
[103:06] Don't you know the Mr. Alfred across the street in 86 had a camera set up.

Speaker 9:
[103:13] In 86?

Speaker 1:
[103:14] In 86.

Speaker 9:
[103:15] What the was he on?

Speaker 1:
[103:16] The VCR shit, the little monitor in his VestaBure. He used to show my mom the-

Speaker 9:
[103:22] VestaBule, In the VestaBure.

Speaker 3:
[103:25] He was out to get money or he was selling something on the weekend.

Speaker 9:
[103:27] No, he was an older dude.

Speaker 1:
[103:28] He used to show my mom the tapes and it used to do.

Speaker 13:
[103:32] Wait a minute.

Speaker 1:
[103:33] As I said. What did you say?

Speaker 9:
[103:36] Oh, freak.

Speaker 8:
[103:36] Yeah, he might have had some bullshit.

Speaker 9:
[103:38] Did he do it in the 80s? He had a video camera set up.

Speaker 1:
[103:41] Nah, he was the dude on some George Zimmerman neighborhood watch type Patroller.

Speaker 7:
[103:46] I don't remember what he was watching.

Speaker 1:
[103:48] But he was a black dude. He was a black dude.

Speaker 3:
[103:50] When you said Jemma and Sandra for the school to get beat, I asked alternative school because when I got kicked out of school and got put in alternative school, you had to sign off that they could hit you. And my mother struggled with that. That was like a thing. Because we didn't believe in beatings either. I've never had a beating.

Speaker 12:
[104:02] Oh, for real?

Speaker 3:
[104:03] Not once.

Speaker 7:
[104:04] See, that's why.

Speaker 12:
[104:04] That's why.

Speaker 7:
[104:06] The teacher used to beat my parents with the ax.

Speaker 3:
[104:08] Was it effective, Flip? Honestly.

Speaker 12:
[104:09] Yeah, it was.

Speaker 6:
[104:11] It was.

Speaker 12:
[104:12] I mean, I gave a lot of, I mean, I guess it depends on how you think, how you look at it, right?

Speaker 6:
[104:16] You don't hit your kids.

Speaker 12:
[104:17] He hit the kids.

Speaker 6:
[104:18] Excuse me, what?

Speaker 1:
[104:19] You don't hit your kids, right?

Speaker 12:
[104:20] I put my kids' asses before, yeah. Now I don't hit them, but I beat them before.

Speaker 6:
[104:24] I think that...

Speaker 9:
[104:25] Sons and daughters?

Speaker 6:
[104:26] Yes.

Speaker 12:
[104:27] My daughter, I'm a little easy on. I was a little easier on, and that's where... But my sons, I fucked them up at one point. You know what I mean? Now I can't...

Speaker 3:
[104:35] On school belts or just ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba?

Speaker 12:
[104:38] Both. Both.

Speaker 9:
[104:40] I just want to say I don't think we should hit kids. I don't think we should beat kids.

Speaker 1:
[104:44] You should let somebody hit your kids.

Speaker 7:
[104:46] Yo, let me tell you something.

Speaker 9:
[104:47] I just want to say this, because I would feel unethical not saying it on a public platform. That's true. That's true.

Speaker 12:
[104:52] Come on.

Speaker 9:
[104:54] I disagree with that position. I think it's wrong to beat kids.

Speaker 12:
[104:58] I think that some people...

Speaker 9:
[104:59] Y'all will talk to your opinions, but I just want to make sure I said it.

Speaker 7:
[105:01] People parent their kids the way they feel.

Speaker 12:
[105:03] Corporal punishment is still legal.

Speaker 10:
[105:05] It's necessary.

Speaker 7:
[105:06] I can say this, ass whippin has worked.

Speaker 10:
[105:10] I agree.

Speaker 7:
[105:11] I got my ass whooped and it worked.

Speaker 3:
[105:13] So you whoop ass.

Speaker 1:
[105:14] You're still pretty stubborn, though.

Speaker 12:
[105:16] Yo, stop doing that. Stop the flow.

Speaker 7:
[105:18] Yo, dog, I think that people parent the way they want to parent. I think whatever you feel comfortable with and how you discipline your kids within reason, you know what I'm saying? I ain't saying electrocute your kids and no shit like that. No extension cords and none of that wild shit. That's abuse. I agree. But discipline and abuse are not the same.

Speaker 3:
[105:36] Electrification don't leave a bruise, though.

Speaker 6:
[105:38] Hey, yo, here's the thing.

Speaker 9:
[105:39] It's beat your kid with a big ass butt.

Speaker 12:
[105:41] See, I told you to finish that plate, Mona, listen to me.

Speaker 10:
[105:44] That's crazy. I told my daughter I used to get a switch. She said, what, like a Nintendo?

Speaker 5:
[105:47] I was like, no.

Speaker 9:
[105:49] And do you beat her with switches?

Speaker 10:
[105:51] No, I don't have to. She's been a good kid.

Speaker 9:
[105:52] Hey, yo, but if she's not, you'll beat her with a stick.

Speaker 10:
[105:54] No, she doesn't do any. All I got to do is raise my voice, and she really starts crying.

Speaker 3:
[105:58] Most dads say that. Yeah, you just raise your voice.

Speaker 1:
[105:59] Marc, we're beating on our kid. And I'm just saying that for entertainment, because I don't hit my kids and don't believe it.

Speaker 12:
[106:04] I think our mind is the way our mind is wired, right? Because if you look at it, when I went to the school and they beat me, it was more like, yo, they're showing me the necessary, they care. That may be a fucked up way of thinking, but these people, they could have let me be outside running the streets. I was going the street. I was throwing rocks off the roof onto ongoing traffic. And I was doing a lot of shit that was bad. And these people took their time and they're like, you can't do that. And they took their time. So I think that sometimes our minds be wired, fucked up. But I feel like the discipline in Karma Christian School worked. It helped me just to get an understanding of every action has a reaction.

Speaker 9:
[106:42] Did you continue to run the streets and break laws afterwards?

Speaker 3:
[106:44] That's what I asked him. Do you think it was effective?

Speaker 12:
[106:46] Yes.

Speaker 3:
[106:47] Okay.

Speaker 12:
[106:48] I didn't do that. But there was always that, I did that because I just wanted to do it. I wanted to try it. But there was always that air or that voice in my head that told me this is wrong, you know better. And I was able to get out and maneuver before it got too late.

Speaker 9:
[107:04] Yeah, and I don't think you can judge it based on whether, because kids do that shit no matter how you discipline them. All I'm saying is that I think a lot of times we end up saying, well, it worked for me because I turned out okay. But we don't know how you would have, how it worked out if the opposite happened. So the question I always ask people is.

Speaker 12:
[107:18] But what do you base that off of? Because somebody can tell you that me being disciplined worked out for me because I was the person that was disciplined.

Speaker 9:
[107:26] I fear the con. I think you missed what I just said. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm saying that we don't know what the opposite would have been had you not been disciplined. So I'm saying it's hard to... I'm not saying your position is wrong.

Speaker 12:
[107:36] I'm saying people don't know.

Speaker 9:
[107:38] I can say I didn't get beat. I mean I did get beat, but let's say I didn't get beat. I can say I didn't get beat and I turned out great. So Mona turned out... You and Mona are in the same place, in the same show doing the same thing.

Speaker 3:
[107:49] I was fucked up.

Speaker 11:
[107:50] You and Mona are the alternative.

Speaker 9:
[107:52] I'm saying physically in the same room, you have achieved the same levels and one of you got beat, one of you didn't. So either of you can say, I didn't get beaten, it worked for me, I didn't get beaten, it worked for you. I'm sorry, I just wanted to finish one thought. When you've been beaten or beaten your kid, was that literally the only option left on the table or do we believe that there is another thing we could do to get the same outcome?

Speaker 12:
[108:14] I mean, you do what you know. So I mean, now that you get surrounded by people and obviously you look at things a little bit different, but sometimes you do what you know and when you try to speak to them on, speak to children, especially in today's society, them don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1:
[108:30] That's the part that I want. Hold on, let me say this because I don't want to jump out there and totally agree with what Ish is saying, so I won't. What I will say, your earlier point you made about the beating shit, but what I will say is, I'm with you, I don't beat my kids and won't beat my kids, ever. And I see how he treats me because of it. Like he in there just trying wild shit, shit that I would never try.

Speaker 6:
[108:58] Hey Lexington, finish your food, I'll throw this food on your face, Like it's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[109:04] I love it. It's crazy when you don't beat them, how they turn out is all I'm saying. I went to Target, I bought a Jimmy Neutron gun. Try to be a good guy.

Speaker 9:
[109:13] Shout out to the Neutrons.

Speaker 1:
[109:16] He asked me for a Jimmy Neutron gun. No, a Fortnight gun. I got the Fortnight gun. Because I'm a dad, I got some other super big shit that was up there too. Some fully automatic Nerf Semi. So I buy him all the shit, but I don't beat him. It never did. This was putting guns to my head.

Speaker 8:
[109:34] Oh, dang Lord.

Speaker 6:
[109:36] This was shooting multiple rounds. Hey, don't shoot that in the house. Shut up, Bow, bow, bow, bow.

Speaker 1:
[109:43] That was handling the recoil.

Speaker 6:
[109:46] Like a beaten, I just see where a beaten could have maybe changed.

Speaker 1:
[109:50] He don't respect me at all.

Speaker 7:
[109:53] Let me ask.

Speaker 1:
[109:53] Oh, I'm sorry. Then the shit gun Jan. I'm sorry, Mona. The Nerf bully got stuck in.

Speaker 4:
[109:58] Got lucky again.

Speaker 1:
[109:59] I had to get it out of there and shot me in the head again.

Speaker 4:
[110:02] Go ahead, Mona.

Speaker 3:
[110:03] I think that the issue for my family that they why they didn't beat is because the connection with slavery with the belt thing. I feel like when I think about that, it bothers me that we were beat as slaves and then now people beat their kids. Also, I feel like a lot of people don't have the understanding of if you're going to use beating for a consequence, you have to wait till you calm down and not be beating the shit out of these kids while you're angry, and most people don't do it and they end up either going too far or doing it for a reason they might not necessarily have done it. You don't want to beat the kid because he pissed you off.

Speaker 15:
[110:36] You want to beat the kid to get the kid to stop.

Speaker 9:
[110:38] And that's why I ask about all the alternatives. Because a lot of times, beating kids is easier than all the other punishments.

Speaker 3:
[110:45] The more effort, a therapy, some type of plan, a timeout, whatever.

Speaker 9:
[110:50] All right, fam.

Speaker 3:
[110:53] Wait a minute, but situations where you have to be accountable on both ends, you know what I mean? So it's like mommy says she's going to take you to the park and you ain't feel like getting your fucking ass up and he flipping out. It's like both of you, you know what I mean? It's all off. Either way, I just think that the damage that's caused by physically using that, it's hard to reverse that. That's why I risk it by hitting him.

Speaker 1:
[111:15] In closing, I do have one question to you about the slave shit that you said. If it was back in the days when we was in slave times and they lined all us up and the master came over there and was uncertain about you, would you rep and say, no, I'm black?

Speaker 3:
[111:35] Fuck no.

Speaker 1:
[111:37] Yeah, I didn't think you would.

Speaker 9:
[111:38] They wouldn't be uncertain.

Speaker 3:
[111:39] But also, at night, I would help put together plans to get us out of there. Put some real one. In front of master's face.

Speaker 7:
[111:46] Put some glass in they fool.

Speaker 3:
[111:47] Someone play a game and all that. Damn, shred the glass up and kill them.

Speaker 13:
[111:51] Yeah.

Speaker 12:
[111:53] Harry would have left Mona.

Speaker 7:
[111:54] Mad in the house did that.

Speaker 12:
[111:56] Harry would have left Mona on the plantation.

Speaker 10:
[111:57] Marcus Garvey staring at you.

Speaker 3:
[111:59] If y'all think for one second, I could pull off being a white woman. Y'all are crazy.

Speaker 12:
[112:04] You could.

Speaker 9:
[112:05] Not in slave times. They would have thought you might as well have been Alec Whack.

Speaker 5:
[112:08] The new version of slavery, jail times.

Speaker 3:
[112:12] Like, I never got, like, I never got, like, treated. I think that-

Speaker 10:
[112:15] Pass to Sally Hummings.

Speaker 3:
[112:16] The, what?

Speaker 10:
[112:17] No, never mind.

Speaker 9:
[112:19] By the way, there's a book out there y'all should read in the audience. It's called Spare the Child by Stacey Patton. It gets into all the arguments about spanking children. They make a great argument and it shoots down a lot of the points that people make about why they need to do it. It's just a great book. It's called, it's called Spare the Child.

Speaker 1:
[112:33] Where would you gentlemen and lady like to go next? Did anybody have a chance to see The Cole?

Speaker 2:
[112:38] I watched it.

Speaker 9:
[112:41] The Cole what?

Speaker 2:
[112:42] Cole is long winded boy.

Speaker 6:
[112:44] Cole and Cam.

Speaker 1:
[112:45] Cole and Cam.

Speaker 9:
[112:46] I saw a lot of it.

Speaker 2:
[112:47] Cole is long winded boy. I think Cam got two questions in that whole show.

Speaker 3:
[112:50] I think Cole is an Aquarius. Let me see.

Speaker 1:
[112:53] I ain't going to hold you.

Speaker 10:
[112:54] He's an Aquarius.

Speaker 3:
[112:54] He's an Aquarius. We talkers.

Speaker 1:
[112:58] He comes off very disingenuous.

Speaker 10:
[113:00] You think so?

Speaker 2:
[113:01] Really?

Speaker 9:
[113:02] Yes.

Speaker 10:
[113:03] How so?

Speaker 1:
[113:05] I almost be cool. I kind of understand why some niggas just don't be doing interviews and get to talking. I don't believe people like him. I don't believe nothing he say. He just comes off too scripted.

Speaker 2:
[113:17] You got too much of a story for each.

Speaker 1:
[113:19] It was too many times during that interview where he said, well, at first I felt like this, and then I felt like this.

Speaker 8:
[113:29] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[113:31] I don't buy it. You don't think people are- Super safe to do that. He said that when it came to how Hove decided to market him early in his career, to how Hove decided to separate or do the deal, whatever. He said it when it came to the cam suing him. He said it when it came to the Kendrick diss. He said it when it came to his features that was supposed to be both. He's just too many times where it's like, at first it was this.

Speaker 6:
[113:56] And at first it be the, at first is.

Speaker 1:
[113:59] The real shit. At first cam, I was like, man, you suing me, fuck this. But then, and then it always lands in, I don't believe none of that shit.

Speaker 2:
[114:08] I will say, I did really like learning a new excuse. I'm sorry, I was mixing the tape. I couldn't get back to you, I was mixing the tape. Six months, a year goes by, I'm mixing the tapes.

Speaker 10:
[114:23] I'm sorry, I was trying to change his mind though, Joe.

Speaker 3:
[114:25] That's no, because I wanted to get pushed up, because what I think, if he could be that kind of person, because we all know them kind of people that's like, flip floppy like that almost, or it could be super, super safe. I could see you not liking it, because when you do that, you get the opportunity to say it the right way for somebody. We all know what it feels like to put it out there and they hate it, and that's scary. So you do it that way.

Speaker 1:
[114:43] There are too many people in this world that come from different walks of life. There are too many things, places, and scenarios in this world. For me to believe that everywhere you go and every situation you put yourself in, you're that well thought out when your first thought each time is what it was.

Speaker 2:
[115:06] But I also think that the most disingenuous part for me was when he kept saying that Cam was on his mind the whole time he was finishing his album.

Speaker 6:
[115:12] All of that shit was fake.

Speaker 2:
[115:13] I was thinking about no damn Cam.

Speaker 6:
[115:15] All of that shit was fake, dawg.

Speaker 7:
[115:17] You don't think that somebody could have the initial emotional response. Like, man, fuck that. But then you go home and you think about it, you're like, you know what, I did go back on my word. I should have done X, Y, and Z that I committed to.

Speaker 1:
[115:31] Yeah, and if you do that enough times, I think there's no need to say my first thought was this. No, that's your brain and your thought. Own it. And if you felt that that many times, then there's no way I believe that in all of the other circumstances on earth, the first thought never prevails. I don't believe that.

Speaker 12:
[115:48] It just shows that you're a human though.

Speaker 7:
[115:49] What are the odds that you're the first to throw it?

Speaker 1:
[115:51] No, it shows you a celebrity and you got some media training and you know what to do.

Speaker 6:
[115:56] You can't be campaigning.

Speaker 1:
[115:57] You don't want to say anything that it piss anybody off. You want to wear the right colors. I'm not going to wear no jewelry. I'm not going to wear, I'm going to be very this, I'm going to, and he never wore jewelry. That's not what I'm saying. But I'm saying that when Eminem wore the fucking black Air Maxes, studies was done in the back to see who relates to the black Air Maxes. Same shit they do with the president side during the debates here. He seemed like that and that's how he comes off.

Speaker 6:
[116:18] That's how he came off to me, to me, to me and me only.

Speaker 10:
[116:21] I've known Cole for a long time. He's a genuine guy. That's him. I think people are entitled to change their mind and change their perspective and grow.

Speaker 1:
[116:31] But grow, he was talking about shit that happened a couple of months ago.

Speaker 3:
[116:34] You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:
[116:34] We were talking about shit that was-

Speaker 10:
[116:36] Is there a time limit on growth?

Speaker 3:
[116:37] No.

Speaker 1:
[116:38] Yo, in hip hop, I don't want to hear growth no more.

Speaker 11:
[116:40] I've been saying that.

Speaker 6:
[116:42] No, because there's too many niggas putting shit. It's the biggest room job.

Speaker 7:
[116:45] There's too many niggas putting-

Speaker 6:
[116:47] no, I got that.

Speaker 1:
[116:47] That part is true. But there's too many niggas in hip hop putting shit on growth that don't belong there. Us calling, saying, JZ don't believe in battling no more because he's grown. I don't believe JZ don't believe in battling no more. I had to go home and say that.

Speaker 6:
[116:59] I had to come on the pod and just talk about all this bullshit.

Speaker 1:
[117:01] I don't believe for one second that JZ believes that hootenanny that he told y'all. But for the sake of growth, we got to sound right on the microphone. Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 3:
[117:10] Yeah, that.

Speaker 10:
[117:10] I don't think Cole cares about being politically correct.

Speaker 1:
[117:12] Oh, please.

Speaker 11:
[117:13] You think so?

Speaker 3:
[117:14] I feel like with him, if anything, it would be just a him thing. Like he just might be that kind of guy. Cyborg, I hate those kind of people.

Speaker 11:
[117:20] I think he's a nice guy.

Speaker 3:
[117:21] That call and cuss you out in the next hours like I thought about it. It's like, stand on something.

Speaker 6:
[117:25] Even with the puff fight.

Speaker 1:
[117:29] What the fuck are we talking about? Cam, yo, shout out to Cam for being very direct with the questions.

Speaker 9:
[117:35] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[117:36] Yo, did you get in a scuffle with Puff? I say I got the clip.

Speaker 9:
[117:38] Yeah, let me see.

Speaker 1:
[117:39] I got the clip. I got the clip. I got the clip.

Speaker 7:
[117:41] I think that you could literally be like, this is where I think the authentic piece is. I initially was like, man, fuck that, nigga. I think that's an authentic reaction and response. And then I think, yo, I got businesses, I got brands. I'm this, I'm that. So now my cooler head or my logical, rational head has to prevail. And that's where you see the other side. I think both of them can be genuine.

Speaker 1:
[118:06] You do something 27 days straight, it'll form a habit. If you were that much of the second thought, nigga, I wouldn't keep hearing the first thought.

Speaker 7:
[118:14] Exactly.

Speaker 11:
[118:15] No, Joe, because in the moment, the emotional response is X.

Speaker 1:
[118:20] I'm telling you, I don't believe that. I'm not saying that you are right or wrong. I don't believe that from him. Here's the clip.

Speaker 17:
[118:26] There was a rumor, did you have a scuffle with Puff before?

Speaker 1:
[118:29] Or is that just all rumor?

Speaker 16:
[118:30] No, that actually happened. I had a...

Speaker 17:
[118:33] So, yeah, explain that.

Speaker 16:
[118:34] Nah, you know what? I damn wish I could, because it's such an ill story.

Speaker 1:
[118:39] Everything he say sound like a lie to me. I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 16:
[118:42] We did a podcast, me and Ead, and we had a bonus episode that was... The whole episode was just about that night. Okay. And that altercation, right? So we was gonna put it out, thinking like, yo, it's cool, enough time has passed, he ain't gonna feel no way, boom, boom. And then all the shit happened with him. And I was just like, nah, it felt like, damn, they're kicking a man when he's dead. You know what I mean? It would have gave the news and the world more ammo.

Speaker 15:
[119:07] I got you, sir.

Speaker 16:
[119:08] Just destroy this dude.

Speaker 15:
[119:10] It wasn't a good time to put it out.

Speaker 16:
[119:12] So similarly right now, it's like, I wanna tell it, because it's ill, but I'm like...

Speaker 6:
[119:15] No, you don't.

Speaker 16:
[119:16] You could tell it, man.

Speaker 6:
[119:18] No, you don't wanna tell it. That is a lie.

Speaker 16:
[119:20] Narratives around it be wrong.

Speaker 6:
[119:21] Let me let it go.

Speaker 17:
[119:22] The remixes is crazy.

Speaker 16:
[119:23] The remixes is crazy, like how shit be happening. But the remixes is crazy.

Speaker 17:
[119:28] No story that's out there has been right.

Speaker 1:
[119:30] She can't still try to.

Speaker 17:
[119:32] Just so people know.

Speaker 16:
[119:32] Even Punch from TDE, shout out to Punch, that's my man. He gave a rendition where I'm looking at him like, you got a lot of it right, but you wasn't really right there. So even what you're saying, you either missing details or misrepresented some details. Because I know the story and he was right there, but I know the full front, the back, I'm sitting in the driver's seat. That's a memorable night for me. So I was like, I'm recalling that shit verbatim. But even somebody that was there that's giving it, it's like.

Speaker 1:
[119:59] Yo.

Speaker 2:
[120:00] That's annoying.

Speaker 1:
[120:01] Be clear, I'm calling Cap on everything he just said. Punch also went on Twitter and said, Cap, now I wasn't there, so I have no idea what happened. But I've been in enough fights to know that the niggas that were standing five and 10 feet away seen what happened.

Speaker 2:
[120:22] Yeah, sometimes they got a better head.

Speaker 1:
[120:24] Yeah, it's a few of them niggas, they seen exactly what happened.

Speaker 3:
[120:26] And Punch told that story twice.

Speaker 1:
[120:28] And two, a lot of people have told this story. But two, he say truths in like a lying type of way. I do believe that at some point he wants to tell the story. I don't think that point has been any time between the day it happened and now. You had all the time in the world. This story happened in 2012 or something.

Speaker 4:
[120:48] It was mad long.

Speaker 1:
[120:50] So you're telling me I don't want to kick him while he's down. Yeah, he's down, but he just got down.

Speaker 2:
[120:54] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[120:55] You could have told this story, dog.

Speaker 5:
[120:58] I believe them on that. I feel like he said like, you know, I want to wait till there's enough time passed. And by the time that I think he wanted a moment to do it, I think that was a very calculated.

Speaker 3:
[121:05] When he started his show.

Speaker 5:
[121:07] Yeah, exactly. And then when that happened, the puff should happen. And he said, look, you know, I don't want to pile on. I actually believe that one.

Speaker 2:
[121:12] That's the case why you can't tell it right now. He said it with Cam. He said, JO the story is over.

Speaker 5:
[121:16] So I think there's two pieces to it. I think one is, again, I think he still doesn't want to pile on. But I think two, he don't want to do it on Cam's platform.

Speaker 3:
[121:23] I don't want to do it on Cam platform. I want to do it on my own platform.

Speaker 5:
[121:25] And I think that's the part he didn't say.

Speaker 2:
[121:27] Also, second thing.

Speaker 5:
[121:28] I'm not dropping that story on nobody else.

Speaker 2:
[121:29] That is so corny to say, such that's told a story and he got it right, but it's certain things he didn't because, I mean, a lot he got right, but a lot is like, n***a, you ain't telling it. That's the closest we gonna get. What do it matter if he don't have the fact that you elbowed him and you didn't uppercut him? Who f***ing cares? It's the same thing. If you're not gonna give it up, who cares?

Speaker 6:
[121:46] Well, he spoke about it on the off season. I forget the lyric, but he mentioned him having to scrap a puff. So it's not like he's never addressed it.

Speaker 5:
[121:55] He's acknowledged it.

Speaker 3:
[121:56] That's not an addressing or a hit.

Speaker 5:
[121:58] That's the same thing.

Speaker 6:
[122:00] He made it known that it did happen.

Speaker 2:
[122:02] So then tell a story. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1:
[122:04] Yeah, what the f*** is going on there, boy?

Speaker 2:
[122:06] What's the point? If you gonna mention it in the bar, tell a story.

Speaker 1:
[122:08] Yeah, Puff done beat up a bunch of motherf***ers.

Speaker 4:
[122:10] UCLA coach, motherf***ers, a bunch of motherf***ers.

Speaker 1:
[122:14] Anyway, shout out to J. Cole.

Speaker 7:
[122:17] Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:
[122:17] But yeah, I don't believe she can understand.

Speaker 11:
[122:20] Speaking on Puff, you heard what Usher said?

Speaker 1:
[122:24] Yes, I did hear what Usher had to say.

Speaker 11:
[122:26] Yeah, let me just say this. I commend Usher for not trying to submit to societal norm. I think it's respectable. I mean, if he haven't had a bad situation with Puff, I respect the fact that he acknowledged that, and he's not afraid to say it. I honestly respect that. I've watched a lot of people who have relationships with Puff do a whole 360 because they didn't want to be judged. And sometimes it's better not to say anything than say something at all.

Speaker 5:
[122:57] I didn't like what he said. I think...

Speaker 11:
[123:00] He's a man.

Speaker 5:
[123:01] I'm not saying he's the pylon.

Speaker 11:
[123:03] And he's talked about his legacy and what he contributed to just the culture in general. I respect it. Should I play it?

Speaker 5:
[123:10] Yeah.

Speaker 8:
[123:10] In the same way, I think many people choose to look past the reality of what our country is. The standards that we now stand on, we can't ignore the reality of the history. But in many ways, I think certain people are prosecuted and maybe not recognized for the greatness that they offer. I don't have anything negative to say about Sean Colmes because my experience was not what the world has seen, and how he's been misrepresented. I'm not saying that every man is perfect. I'm not saying that all of us don't have flaws. But I can't, with any sense of humanity, not recognize the valuable contributions that this man made for us as black entrepreneurs.

Speaker 1:
[123:56] Yeah, Usher sounds like J. Cole's second thought.

Speaker 8:
[123:58] It's just people who transition culture and ideas into something that's tangible and becomes business. So many people benefited from what he created. And I acknowledge that. And that's why I see him as legacy. You told Shaming Sharp you learned a lot about business during that era. Absolutely. What'd you learn? Puff was a mentor of Bunt.

Speaker 1:
[124:20] The interviewer was trying to get slick.

Speaker 8:
[124:21] You know, you had that really, really hard teacher, you know. But you're watching something in real time. Seems inappropriate. The idea of the level of discipline that came with that time in business, especially in an era that was trying to prove itself culturally in hip hop. Now, you can't turn on the television and not see the influence of hip hop. But the people who actually made that appropriate and are the forefathers are people like Sean Combs. And not just in the great times that they had musically, but in the idea of being able to find ways to monetize culture and create something that was not just black or white. It was colorless. It was green. That's who I see that man as.

Speaker 7:
[125:03] I don't think it's that difficult.

Speaker 8:
[125:04] That's what I choose to remember. I respect on his name because I realized that what I learned as a businessman, before I even understood what business was, came as a result of seeing the incredible things that he was able to do and the way that he positioned himself as a businessman. There are trials and tribulations that come with pressures of success and power. But what we choose to do with it is what I hope that you see with me and hopefully other people that I'm involved with, right?

Speaker 7:
[125:36] Two things could be true.

Speaker 2:
[125:37] I didn't like this.

Speaker 7:
[125:38] That's a lot of words to not also just say that video was absolutely disgusting.

Speaker 2:
[125:43] And I agree. I totally feel where Flip coming from where you're not doing what everybody else is doing. But it was a way that he could have did that without doing that. And I just like for so many people to be, it'd be a known thing that Puff fucked them up financially. It's like you mentioned about what he did for entrepreneurs. I just think he sounds stupid. I mean, he's known to rob niggas. That's what he's known to do. So it's like, what the fuck are we talking about? Also, I feel like with the age thing, I'm sure you probably looked up to him because you're a kid, you know what I mean? When you meet him or whatever. And I get what you're saying. I respect it, too.

Speaker 11:
[126:14] Everyone's experience is different, though, Mom.

Speaker 2:
[126:15] That's true.

Speaker 11:
[126:16] Everybody's experience with somebody. Just because I think we made it acceptable for, yeah, we saw the video, the piece of shit for that and stuff like that. But there's also, however, there's people that have a great experience with him. And why? They shouldn't share their experience because right now he's being looked at as this big monster. No, you can share your positive experience with somebody even if they're looked at as a monster. You can. And you shouldn't be afraid to do so if it's genuine. And a lot of times I watch people do that. I watch people be in face, laugh and smile and then change their whole shit because of some shit that came out. I'd rather somebody just shut the fuck up, y'all. A lot of times, I shut the fuck up. If I see my man, I shut the fuck up. My man did some bullshit and I love him and he took care of me and yelled me down, I'm going to shut the fuck up.

Speaker 5:
[127:00] But he didn't do that. That's my issue. I don't have an issue with him saying the good experiences he had with Puff or saying the great things that Puff did in business. I don't have a problem with that. I also don't have a problem with him shutting the fuck up if he doesn't say anything about it, right? Because that's his man. He could have just said, I don't want to talk about that. Boom, I'm cool with that. To me, it felt like a five minute straw man, right? Like he starts by saying, you know, some people get prosecuted. He says he got misrepresented.

Speaker 2:
[127:25] I did at that point.

Speaker 5:
[127:26] You could walk, if you come down on this planet and hear this interview, you would almost think to me that Puff was mistreated, almost that he didn't do anything wrong. Like he was railroaded. Right, like he was railroaded. So for me, I don't have a problem with him, and you might not know anything. Let's say, and I don't believe this, but let's say Usher knew nothing bad about Puff, doesn't know any bad stories about Puff, don't know anything, and he just found, he saw that Cassie video for the first time like us. You could still say that Cassie video was fucked up, but that's not all there is to know about this man. He's also this, this, this, and all the shit he said. That's my only issue with it. Like when you hear him talk, it's like he only talked about the good stuff. And also finally, like, I think it's a dishonest argument. I don't think anybody's ever denied those things about Puff. They're just saying, in fact, I think most of Puff's life, he's been celebrated for all the awesome shit he did. It's only in the last two to three years that all his other shit is coming out. So it's also to me like not honest to make it seem like he's never gotten his due. I think he's gotten his due, and now we find out some fucked up shit, and we need to own that too, or be quiet about it.

Speaker 2:
[128:27] He earned his fall from grace.

Speaker 11:
[128:29] Let me ask you a question. Do you think that he's maybe saying that the time that he got for the crime that he was found guilty on may be too much?

Speaker 5:
[128:37] If that's what he's saying, then say that. I think that.

Speaker 11:
[128:39] Then we're giving him time for, okay, we've talked about the video. We saw the video.

Speaker 1:
[128:43] But he said exactly what he wanted to say. It's where I'm having a problem with y'all stances. Not that I disagree with something y'all saying, but y'all stances don't leave room for the people that feel like Usher, for the people that Flipper's sitting here talking about. Everybody doesn't choose to have to acknowledge the worst of their homie when they're around.

Speaker 2:
[129:05] Why does he have to say that?

Speaker 1:
[129:07] And he said that.

Speaker 5:
[129:07] I don't think he needs to do that.

Speaker 1:
[129:09] You keep saying he should say that.

Speaker 6:
[129:11] You should not have said A and B.

Speaker 5:
[129:12] No, what I'm saying is, if you want to say B and just B, fine. What I'm saying is, when you say he's been misrepresented and some people get prosecuted.

Speaker 1:
[129:19] A lot of people feel like he was misrepresented, Parks. I mean, I'm Parks.

Speaker 5:
[129:23] It gives the impression that you feel that stuff isn't true or isn't accurate or that you don't have a position on it.

Speaker 3:
[129:29] Let me say this.

Speaker 1:
[129:30] But he said, I choose not to focus on those things.

Speaker 3:
[129:33] Even in the misrepresentation point, at some point, they were calling Puff this serial ****. They were saying that Puff did all of these things. And if you are Usher, and let's, I'm just gonna, because I don't want to be insensitive, right? Let's just say you are around Puff and you're seeing women throwing themselves at him, right? Or you might have some information of a woman that gave Puff sex consensually. And then that person then came out and said, yo, he did these things to me. That's a misrepresentation. Nobody in America can say they misrepresented Puff as a woman beater after seeing him whip Cassie's ass. That's not a misrepresentation that is accurate, is spot on, is dead on. But there could have been other things in that case that were a misrepresentation of him. They was trying to get a n***a life, my n***a.

Speaker 5:
[130:21] Right.

Speaker 3:
[130:22] For being a sexual carnivore. They was trying to get a n***a life, my n***a. So if you're looking at it from that perspective, I see how somebody that's your friend that knows the other side of you or might have been in some of that s*** with you, can say, yo, that's a misrepresentation of what these freak offs were.

Speaker 5:
[130:39] I don't take issue with that. What you just said has a lot of nuance and you're saying, it might not have been this, it might have been this, and the problem is when you give these kind of flat statements to the media, it leaves room for this conversation that didn't need to be left if you just say, some of that s*** was f***ed up, but there's a lot of s*** the media got wrong, and I want to focus on the s*** that's good about it. That's kind of what he said though. That's not how I took it. I didn't hear that.

Speaker 2:
[131:03] Right now, because we learn it, we're growing as a community, as a culture, we treat things differently when there are victims involved, and that's why you are supposed to say shit like that. There's humans that were hurt by this motherf***er, and they're still walking around, you know what I mean? You never mind, because I'm going to say that, y'all just say that one somewhere else with it.

Speaker 6:
[131:20] No, no, no, I think I can't win, you know what I mean? Like he's in a lose-lose situation. Like you just said, Marc, he was like, he shouldn't say anything, he has to, then he looks like, if he doesn't, he's complicit.

Speaker 3:
[131:29] They gonna diss him, they gonna shit on him. Y'all, you bitch ass, you ain't saying nothing because you know Puff was fondling you when you was little, da da da da da.

Speaker 7:
[131:34] But I think it's easy to just say, he did some fucked up shit, but he also did all this great shit.

Speaker 6:
[131:38] It's very simple.

Speaker 11:
[131:39] That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:
[131:40] Why does he have to say that?

Speaker 7:
[131:42] I'm not just saying that.

Speaker 11:
[131:43] But why does he have to acknowledge that he did up shit?

Speaker 1:
[131:46] That's the answer I'm looking for from y'all.

Speaker 2:
[131:48] Because of humans, that's my answer.

Speaker 11:
[131:49] So to appease someone, to appease people.

Speaker 2:
[131:53] I wouldn't call it appeasing anybody, but I would call it respecting people that were hurt in a situation. That's how I look at it. And if we talk about women, you know what I mean? So it's like, it's sensitive like that. It's a huge case now, you're going to bring up the case. The victim was champion for this person to go to jail. That lady killed herself. She has three children and a family at home. I mean, victims are hurt by it. These are famous people. I'm not talking about somebody attached to it. I'm talking about a huge case similar.

Speaker 1:
[132:17] So anytime that Puff's name is brought up to Puff's friends, they should lead with the victim?

Speaker 7:
[132:25] No, but if someone says, what do you think about this Puff situation? You should answer it. It's not like they said-

Speaker 1:
[132:30] Did I miss the question? What do you think about the Puff situation?

Speaker 3:
[132:33] But even if that is the question, I can say, yo, Puff was good to me. You don't have to state the obvious, because we all saw him with this girl's ass.

Speaker 5:
[132:43] I think in a culture like this, it is obvious. I think a lot of people, you have good morals and values. A lot of people don't, and I don't think it's obvious. I think there are enough people defending Puff and a lot of people defending awful shit that it's not clear what everybody's thinking.

Speaker 3:
[132:56] I don't know one person that defended him beating that girl, bro.

Speaker 2:
[132:59] The way that he was charged and the stupid the case was, because we all feel like the case was weird, right? Because of that, I think some people kind of like try to make it like he wasn't still fucked up as a person. The case was weird, he got arrested for some weird shit, cool. But he still was a fucking monster. So I think people take that little and run with it.

Speaker 1:
[133:19] But he wasn't a monster to everybody, which is part of what Usher is saying.

Speaker 2:
[133:23] Cool, Young Miami just came out and said she didn't have that experience.

Speaker 11:
[133:25] She was him. A lot of people, real quick and closing for me, the stuff that he was accused of and stuff like that, if you remove the beating, a lot of them niggas was into that. Meaning like the sexual expression and freedom of sex and stuff. They were into those type of things.

Speaker 7:
[133:41] Why are we removing the beating?

Speaker 11:
[133:44] No, no, we're not removing it. No, I'm talking about the beating is, I'm talking about what he got charged on, keeping it on the charges.

Speaker 7:
[133:49] I get that.

Speaker 11:
[133:50] Yeah, he didn't get charged for beating Cassie.

Speaker 7:
[133:51] I understand that.

Speaker 11:
[133:52] Yeah, we're talking about-

Speaker 7:
[133:53] We saw it though.

Speaker 11:
[133:54] We did see it, but then we saw a lot of shit.

Speaker 3:
[133:56] I think they-

Speaker 11:
[133:56] We saw a lot of shit.

Speaker 3:
[133:57] I think that's where they up.

Speaker 11:
[133:58] They did the same thing that happened with, what this name, with the jail recipes? OJ. We don't have to get to that.

Speaker 7:
[134:04] And we don't speak very positively of OJ.

Speaker 11:
[134:06] But what I'm saying with the OJ situation-

Speaker 1:
[134:07] Yeah, but y'all don't speak negatively about his man that drove him around running from the cops either.

Speaker 3:
[134:13] Or we haven't-

Speaker 5:
[134:14] It's a little different.

Speaker 3:
[134:15] Look, we haven't had enough interviews with OJ's friends. Some of OJ's friends, if they were in front of a camera, would potentially speak about him in reference. That's not true.

Speaker 7:
[134:25] I'm not saying you gotta shit on yourself.

Speaker 1:
[134:27] I'm just saying, what do y'all expect his friends to do?

Speaker 11:
[134:30] We do picket shoes.

Speaker 1:
[134:31] We do picket shoes.

Speaker 3:
[134:32] We don't talk about Dr. Dre.

Speaker 2:
[134:34] Oh, yeah, we really don't bring up him.

Speaker 5:
[134:36] Corey just said we don't talk about Dr. Dre. I agree, but I've sat up here on this platform multiple times. We need to talk about Dr. Dre. Yeah, we just need to. I mean, I think you're right. We're selected by who we get outraged by. We'll clap for one person. I agree with all of that. I'm just saying we, all of us, myself included, could do better with that. And but I'm not even saying Usher did this awful thing. I just think, again, at a moment like this, I think it does warrant, I just think a few more sentences. It's not that I wanted to say less. Everything he said was fine. I think if you just add a couple more sentences, it doesn't end up doing harm to the victims or making people become, in a culture that's dismissive of victims, reinforce that. That's why I just think, I think there's just a level of responsibility to come. I don't expect people's friends to trash them in public. That's not what I'm asking. Remember, I said he could have said nothing about it.

Speaker 3:
[135:20] But y'all are saying that his couple, so let me ask you, so I'll infer what you're meaning. The couple sentences that he could have added on would have been what, in your opinion, appropriately?

Speaker 5:
[135:32] I think if you're going, once you start walking down the street with this, right, once you say he's been misrepresented, I think it's important in a culture that's victim blaming, victim denying, to say what's been misrepresented, or just don't say he's been misrepresented. If they had asked him, Usher, what do you think about the Puff situation? He said, look, that's my friend, I just want to focus on the positive, boom, boom, boom. I ain't got no issue with it. It's not that I need him to go through this long treatise about what's fucked up about Puff. But once you throw words out like misrepresented, it invites people to believe that his head is dead.

Speaker 11:
[136:05] Marc, he's talking about one specific subject.

Speaker 5:
[136:07] But we don't know what the subject is. He's talking about Cassie, he's talking about the victims. I'm sorry, I apologize.

Speaker 4:
[136:11] No, no, no, you're good, no, you're good.

Speaker 11:
[136:14] No, no, it's all right. I want to, we're going in circles. I feel like he's talking about one specific subject. I'm talking about, I think he's talking about the sexual shit. The charges. The charges. I don't think he's talking about anything with Cassie. We saw the video, you can't make an excuse for that. We saw what that did, the one with the towel, it was disgusting. He's talking about one thing. Yo, the shit with all that sex shit, what they were saying, he was doing this, he was doing that, he was forcing this and forcing that. I think he's misrepresenting that because I might have been there. I might have been aware of the situation. There's a lot of niggas that do these type of things.

Speaker 5:
[136:42] That's why I leave it at that. Again, he's been misrepresented in some parts of the story.

Speaker 6:
[136:47] Boom.

Speaker 11:
[136:47] We good.

Speaker 5:
[136:48] Again. It just beat a little bit for me.

Speaker 6:
[136:52] Okay.

Speaker 5:
[136:52] You know who has not been misrepresented, Joe Budden?

Speaker 6:
[136:55] Who?

Speaker 5:
[136:55] Bob fucking Barker. Oh, full world has been on fire for the last. I spent my childhood... Remember when I told you about my cousin Chris? I keep saying his name. The crack addict used to raise me. He raised me along with Bob Barker. He was a babysitter. He was.

Speaker 7:
[137:13] He was. He was.

Speaker 5:
[137:13] He was. He was. And it turns out, he didn't fuck with none of y'all.

Speaker 6:
[137:17] The price is wrong, bitch.

Speaker 2:
[137:19] Y'all are surprised at that?

Speaker 3:
[137:20] Yes.

Speaker 5:
[137:21] Why?

Speaker 2:
[137:21] I'm not. White and gray, that's enough.

Speaker 3:
[137:24] But you're surprised at some older, rich white man in the 70s did fuck with blacks.

Speaker 5:
[137:30] In my clearest mind, I'm not surprised. But the childhood mark that watched Bob Barker hug people, give kisses on the cheek, I watched the documentary. Did y'all see it?

Speaker 1:
[137:38] I saw the clips. I'm trying to find, what is the name of it? Because my memory is bad.

Speaker 5:
[137:43] I think it's just called The Price is Right, because the series is called.

Speaker 1:
[137:45] No, no, no, no, you're wrong.

Speaker 5:
[137:48] The series is called Dirty Rotten Scandals.

Speaker 1:
[137:50] Dirty Rotten Scandals, six episodes. The first two episodes are Dr. Phil. The next two episodes are the Tyra Banks shit. And the last two episodes, the final two episodes, were the Bob Barker, Price is Right episode, which have now gone viral. But that went viral when I started watching, like when I started watching episode one, which was Dr. Phil. And it took me a little while to finish Dr. Phil. So the internet was going on and on about Bob Barker. And I'm like, yo, Dr. Phil is a piece of shit. How did y'all get to Bob Barker and skip saying, wow, Dr. Phil is a piece of shit?

Speaker 7:
[138:30] Well, Dr. Phil, what did he do?

Speaker 1:
[138:32] I was saying, Dr. Phil is a piece of shit, y'all.

Speaker 11:
[138:37] As far as what, racist?

Speaker 1:
[138:39] No.

Speaker 11:
[138:40] Okay, so that's why they was talking about Bob Barker.

Speaker 1:
[138:42] No.

Speaker 11:
[138:42] He was racist.

Speaker 1:
[138:43] Dr. Phil, and we'll get to Bob Barker. In short, Dr. Phil was accused of exploiting the mental health people and bringing them on the show and using their plight to sell a book or to do all the advertising for help centers where they were killing people.

Speaker 6:
[139:12] Like some Jack Kovorky and shit?

Speaker 1:
[139:16] The health centers now is a big deal, right? Like finding people that will actually care take is a big deal. But these places that he would have on it with all of these funny names, there's a bunch of funny names, but there was a bunch of ads in every episode. And during the investigation, you know, they was like, yo, is Dr. Phil sending people to places that they're killing people or letting people run away? They had these parents on, and this is what I'll say, they had these parents on. The parents' son was schizophrenic something, like there was a term. They knew he had issues. He had an episode in the house where he ran away. He had a schizo episode, ran off. They couldn't locate him, they couldn't find him. Dr. Phil people found the kid and had the kid agree to come on and do the show and then called the parents and said, hey, y'all agree to do this, we will send your son to get the help that he needs. So now the son comes on and it seems like Dr. Phil is trying to bait a schizophrenic episode out of him.

Speaker 3:
[140:18] Live for ratings.

Speaker 1:
[140:20] Live on air for the ratings. They showed the episode, this shit looks absolutely nuts. So cool, when it's all said and done, they send the kid to whatever the health care place is that Dr. Phil is promoting. The parents say that the kid was there for two weeks and they kicked him out. They kicked him out of the health care place. So then he was on the street, he got arrested, he did a whole bunch of shit. But watch it.

Speaker 5:
[140:47] It's worth watching. It's worth watching. Every episode of that series is great.

Speaker 1:
[140:50] But Bob Barker, the price is right. Yeah, Bob Barker was a piece of shit. But before we get to that, the Barker beauties, yo, Kathleen, right now. Right now.

Speaker 5:
[141:07] Right now. She's 73.

Speaker 1:
[141:09] And Holly.

Speaker 5:
[141:11] Holly is the one. Miss Parker.

Speaker 1:
[141:13] No, Kathleen was the one.

Speaker 5:
[141:14] I mean, yes.

Speaker 1:
[141:14] Kathleen was the black girl.

Speaker 5:
[141:15] Yeah, Kathleen is the other chick.

Speaker 1:
[141:18] But Holly was right. And Shorty that disappeared, who he was with, Diana.

Speaker 3:
[141:24] Kenny Smith's wife used to be one of the girls.

Speaker 1:
[141:26] I don't know.

Speaker 7:
[141:27] Y'all know a lot about the Barker beauties.

Speaker 5:
[141:29] I did some research last night on the Barker beauties.

Speaker 1:
[141:31] Well, yesterday, that was the first time I heard it phrased like Barker beauties. My grandma just used to have the prices right on her side.

Speaker 5:
[141:38] She's cute.

Speaker 1:
[141:39] And Holly was the goofy one. That's the one I remember. Cause she would always come out and fall or be doing something goofy. The Barker beauties are beautiful now is the point of what we're saying.

Speaker 7:
[141:50] Cause they were in the show.

Speaker 1:
[141:51] Yeah, these are older. These women are 70 years old.

Speaker 7:
[141:55] Still fine.

Speaker 1:
[141:56] And that Kathleen lady is almost finer now than she was.

Speaker 5:
[142:00] She looked amazing. And Bob went to touch up the 10-foot pole.

Speaker 3:
[142:04] Holly Hallstrom.

Speaker 1:
[142:05] Yeah, Holly was right too. But anyway, so Bob Barker started fucking Diana, one of the Barker beauties. She was absolutely drop dead gorgeous. Bob had good taste. But that's worse workplace misconduct and all types of other shit.

Speaker 6:
[142:20] Back in that day, was it?

Speaker 5:
[142:22] No, that's kind of the point of the story. It is like...

Speaker 1:
[142:25] It should have been.

Speaker 5:
[142:25] Right. But it was wild going on there. I mean, they used to make this will be like put on the outfit. Even the writer was like, yo, they made me put on this outfit and go downstairs into the room with all these men like wearing this shit and doing this shit. Shit ain't nothing to do with her job. It's just like that was just the culture of the spot. It was like some Mad Men shit.

Speaker 1:
[142:41] This is some Donald Sterling shit, actually. Because Diana is fucking him. And then she's the one that learns or that has the T. Well, that's when the T comes out, where people were going to be mad. Bob was going to be mad if he found out that Diana had sex with black men, which Diana's fine. So Diana's had sex with black men. And she told him one day, probably the black actors.

Speaker 3:
[143:05] We fine. So they want us. What the are you talking about?

Speaker 1:
[143:09] Go ahead.

Speaker 5:
[143:10] So Bob thought black men were the most diseased people on the planet.

Speaker 1:
[143:13] Jesus. Yeah. So he fired the girl, got rid of her.

Speaker 9:
[143:18] And she told it all.

Speaker 1:
[143:19] And then she had a case pending against him, to which he settled. And then nobody ever heard from Diana again. But then came Holly, who more of the same sexual harassment, retaliatory efforts, gender discrimination, you name it, they was on it in this. Holly got her payback. Holly got her get back at the end of the day. Because Holly had a case. She filed a suit and said, I don't care how broke I am if I got to sell a house, if I got to sell a car, whatever I got to sell, I'm not leaving this because justice needs to be done for all the shit that's going on. Claudia Jordan was in it. I was off of Price is Right by the time, so that was a surprise to me.

Speaker 3:
[143:59] The chick what's her name was Fire. I used to watch shit with Pop Corey. But Manuela, and she was on it, she was Fire, and then Kenny Smith's ex-wife, I think they divorced now. Those two were like the-

Speaker 7:
[144:13] Now that you mention it, I do remember him being a little handsy.

Speaker 9:
[144:16] He was handsy.

Speaker 5:
[144:17] They showed him on the clip, they were like, you watch the wheel and I'll watch your dresses. He would say shit like that when you go back and watch the old episode. He was saying some wild, freaky shit.

Speaker 7:
[144:24] Was he saying racist shit on there?

Speaker 1:
[144:26] No, but in the second episode is when they're like, yo, Bob Barker would only allow two black people on the show at a time. And he had to be notified. You had to write a B on the card so he would know when a black contestant is coming out. And when the black contestant came out, I love a good doc because a good doc, when they talk about some shit that I want to see, they pan right to it in the episode. So they said, yo, when black people would come out, he would run from them if they tried to touch him. And sure enough, they went right to an episode where the lady won some shit and she tried to, and he rang, oh, oh, oh, like he looked afraid.

Speaker 9:
[145:06] Yeah, yeah, he really looked afraid.

Speaker 1:
[145:09] He was a fucking mess. I'm not so sure that I'm shocked about this, but it wasn't at the top of my mind.

Speaker 9:
[145:16] So then I was mad when they said he died.

Speaker 7:
[145:19] He's been dead for a while.

Speaker 6:
[145:19] He's been dead for a while.

Speaker 9:
[145:20] So what? I want to drag him. So what?

Speaker 6:
[145:23] When these things come out, it's like, okay, he's dead. Now what?

Speaker 9:
[145:26] No, but not just he's dead.

Speaker 1:
[145:28] He died at 99.

Speaker 5:
[145:33] That's how you put it, the price is right. You don't want to go over to that zero.

Speaker 9:
[145:36] You had the nerve to live this.

Speaker 1:
[145:43] But you got the nerve to live a nice, healthy, long life of racism. Yes. 99 years ago.

Speaker 5:
[145:51] That's why people will be like, he'll get his dude. No, they don't. The world don't work that way. Bad people live a long fucking time.

Speaker 1:
[145:55] They do sometimes. You want to know, they be chilling.

Speaker 7:
[146:01] Regis Favis be loving. all the models he runs with.

Speaker 1:
[146:04] Meanwhile, we drawing the jerk off 21 times.

Speaker 9:
[146:08] This shit is crazy.

Speaker 1:
[146:10] Yeah, Bob Barker is a piece of shit. All of the beauties were beautiful and stunning. Shout out to Claudia Jordan. I felt her pain. I felt all of their pain.

Speaker 3:
[146:21] And she was a black model up there.

Speaker 1:
[146:23] And they start showing her, they start showing the old Claudia Jordan clips of her from like 01 and 02. Chill out, yo.

Speaker 11:
[146:31] What happened?

Speaker 3:
[146:31] She was fired.

Speaker 6:
[146:32] She was hot. Game show hosts might be pieces of shit. Remember like Richard Dawson from Family Feud? He used to kiss the contestants.

Speaker 1:
[146:38] Wait, he was bad?

Speaker 2:
[146:39] He was freaky.

Speaker 6:
[146:40] Richard Dawson.

Speaker 1:
[146:41] Richard Dawson was a bad guy?

Speaker 3:
[146:43] He was kissing everybody's wife in their mouth. But that was normal.

Speaker 6:
[146:46] What?

Speaker 9:
[146:46] That was normal.

Speaker 1:
[146:47] That's good.

Speaker 9:
[146:48] It was a little more normal.

Speaker 3:
[146:49] And for that little white man to be kissing black women like that and accepting that.

Speaker 1:
[146:53] I got to look up Richard Dawson. He's the first Family Feud owner? Yeah. Who was after him?

Speaker 12:
[146:57] Chuck?

Speaker 3:
[146:58] Nobody.

Speaker 6:
[146:58] It was him and then it was like Chuck Worre afterwards.

Speaker 12:
[147:00] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[147:01] That's not family.

Speaker 1:
[147:02] That's the love connection.

Speaker 6:
[147:03] You know, that's Ray.

Speaker 1:
[147:04] That's the love connection.

Speaker 5:
[147:05] Wait, hold on. We're mixing up. Richard Dawson is...

Speaker 6:
[147:08] Love connection. Yes.

Speaker 5:
[147:09] He also was real fortunate a long time ago.

Speaker 2:
[147:11] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[147:11] But the guy that...

Speaker 6:
[147:12] Ray Combs, I think was his name. Yeah.

Speaker 2:
[147:14] Rich was the one that would tongue everybody. Even little girls, he would kiss them on the lips.

Speaker 5:
[147:18] Oh, yeah. Okay. He wasn't tongueing them. He wasn't tongueing little girls.

Speaker 2:
[147:20] Not the tongue.

Speaker 11:
[147:22] Ray Combs. He would wet kiss you though.

Speaker 6:
[147:24] Hey, Richard, that's my wife.

Speaker 11:
[147:25] What are you doing?

Speaker 4:
[147:26] Yo, who the fuck is this?

Speaker 3:
[147:28] Richard Dawson?

Speaker 4:
[147:30] This guy?

Speaker 3:
[147:31] That was him.

Speaker 11:
[147:35] I'm looking at the same shit. Who the is this stupid?

Speaker 12:
[147:38] This is the one the show is known for, yo.

Speaker 9:
[147:40] No, it's not. No, it is not.

Speaker 7:
[147:43] I thought the same kid just literally a lyric in a Wu-Tang song.

Speaker 4:
[147:46] Yes. That's awesome. So he says, you're dead.

Speaker 7:
[147:49] Exactly.

Speaker 3:
[147:52] Calls him more family for you than Richard Dawson.

Speaker 5:
[147:54] Yeah, what are y'all talking about? Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[147:56] You gotta get the game show network here, man.

Speaker 3:
[147:58] Yo, what are you talking? Richard Dawson was him, my.

Speaker 1:
[148:01] I'm only trying to see what years he hosted Family Feud.

Speaker 5:
[148:05] 76 to 85. Oh, if y'all don't get the fuck out of my face with this shit.

Speaker 1:
[148:10] Don't say nothing about Richard Dawson to me no more.

Speaker 4:
[148:13] What the is wrong with y'all?

Speaker 9:
[148:15] This was on TV from 78 to 85.

Speaker 4:
[148:19] I wasn't watching a Family Feud. No, I was not. No, I was not.

Speaker 9:
[148:25] I wasn't cartooned, enjoying my childhood. You jerk. You racist, I never seen Richard Dawson.

Speaker 11:
[148:32] They say like Michael Jackson.

Speaker 9:
[148:35] They say like Marcus Garvey. I don't know fucking Richard Dawson, Who's the after him?

Speaker 1:
[148:43] What is that guy's name?

Speaker 3:
[148:44] Steve Harvey.

Speaker 9:
[148:45] No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3:
[148:47] That's the only other host I know.

Speaker 9:
[148:49] No, sir.

Speaker 7:
[148:50] A Family Feud.

Speaker 5:
[148:51] Ray Combs.

Speaker 6:
[148:52] Ray Combs.

Speaker 9:
[148:52] Ray Combs.

Speaker 6:
[148:54] The short guy that killed himself.

Speaker 5:
[148:56] I didn't know Ray Combs killed himself.

Speaker 1:
[148:58] Ray Combs killed himself. Ray Combs killed himself.

Speaker 6:
[149:01] Lincoln got shot? Yeah, he killed himself, man.

Speaker 5:
[149:03] Who the fuck is Ray Combs?

Speaker 1:
[149:04] Ray Combs is the Family Feud that I know.

Speaker 5:
[149:07] I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 1:
[149:08] Richard Dawson. What else Richard Dawson did in his life?

Speaker 5:
[149:10] The match game. No, he did the match game.

Speaker 1:
[149:13] What year was that? 71?

Speaker 5:
[149:14] I said the match game was, I mean, 70, 75, right?

Speaker 11:
[149:17] We know Ray Combs. We know that.

Speaker 5:
[149:19] Ray Combs wasn't our childhood. Yeah.

Speaker 11:
[149:21] We know Ray Combs.

Speaker 5:
[149:22] Joe was watching in the child juvenile facility. We know Ray Combs.

Speaker 11:
[149:27] You don't know this Ish?

Speaker 3:
[149:29] no.

Speaker 5:
[149:30] No, but listen, all I'm saying is go get it.

Speaker 3:
[149:31] Here we hosted for six years.

Speaker 9:
[149:34] Don't say Richard Dawson again with Ray Combs around. Don't say it.

Speaker 3:
[149:38] You're out your mind.

Speaker 9:
[149:42] How long Ray Combs did it? Six years.

Speaker 5:
[149:45] You're under the six years.

Speaker 1:
[149:48] Say something, Go ahead.

Speaker 9:
[149:51] For information.

Speaker 5:
[149:51] I'm just going to add his Richard Dawson piece. Richard Dawson, Most of the shows you watch were reruns or syndications. Yes, exactly. Even when you stopped hosting it, it was still coming on TV the whole day.

Speaker 1:
[150:02] I'm telling you, on your Philly Cable channels, Richard Dawson was probably still hosting for a long time.

Speaker 9:
[150:12] Over here where it was lit, Ray Combs was the host of Family Feud.

Speaker 4:
[150:18] How come you can't talk to fucking 50-year-old?

Speaker 9:
[150:22] Yo, I'm 45. I've never seen Rachel, what's her name? Richard Dawson before.

Speaker 11:
[150:29] Never.

Speaker 4:
[150:29] Anywhere.

Speaker 5:
[150:30] You never heard the rap lyrics?

Speaker 4:
[150:31] No.

Speaker 9:
[150:32] They'll try to Wu-Tang me today.

Speaker 11:
[150:37] We forgot.

Speaker 4:
[150:38] What the?

Speaker 3:
[150:39] I can see you.

Speaker 1:
[150:40] Which is all right with me.

Speaker 9:
[150:41] I know that.

Speaker 5:
[150:43] That makes sense for you.

Speaker 6:
[150:45] How old are you? I'm 38.

Speaker 5:
[150:46] What? Oh, my bad.

Speaker 1:
[150:49] Is Richard Dawson alive?

Speaker 5:
[150:50] No.

Speaker 6:
[150:50] He's dead.

Speaker 5:
[150:51] He's dead.

Speaker 1:
[150:51] How did he die?

Speaker 3:
[150:53] Probably kissed some shit.

Speaker 1:
[150:58] Richard Dawson ain't even had no Barker beauties. mute up.

Speaker 3:
[151:01] Yo, you're bugging. Richard Dawson was the man.

Speaker 9:
[151:04] If he was the man, why he ain't do nothing else?

Speaker 6:
[151:06] He was just kissing beauties.

Speaker 1:
[151:08] If he was the man, why he didn't do nothing else? I'm serious.

Speaker 3:
[151:10] Nigga, Alex Trebek ain't do much else but Jeopardy. He's the Don Don of Jeopardy.

Speaker 1:
[151:13] If you disrespect Alex Trebek again.

Speaker 9:
[151:16] Are you crazy?

Speaker 2:
[151:17] But you never see these from game shows.

Speaker 3:
[151:19] Don't want to do a movie.

Speaker 11:
[151:20] And yo, Richard Dawson was from the UK, Yo, get him the fuck out of here, yo.

Speaker 9:
[151:24] Don't say no Richard Dawson to me no more.

Speaker 11:
[151:29] We know Ray, Yeah, Ray.

Speaker 9:
[151:31] When it was in America, it was Ray.

Speaker 5:
[151:33] Yeah, nah, Richard Dawson was the man.

Speaker 1:
[151:35] We got it, we got it, big dawg. Yeah, you're right. We got it, we understand. But he didn't do nothing else, right?

Speaker 5:
[151:40] You heard it tonight, he was the guest host on The Tonight Show. You heard The Tonight Show? Like a frequent guest host on The Tonight Show, not like once.

Speaker 3:
[151:45] What else did Pat Sajak do?

Speaker 5:
[151:46] That was pretty big, right?

Speaker 11:
[151:47] The Dick Van Dyke Show.

Speaker 3:
[151:48] What else did Pat Sajak do?

Speaker 11:
[151:50] He got some shit in here.

Speaker 1:
[151:51] Oh, you being disrespectful.

Speaker 3:
[151:52] I'm asking you a question. Please answer my question. What else do you know Pat Sajak for?

Speaker 11:
[151:57] You know, it is in the bag.

Speaker 1:
[151:58] No, he's not. He sounds stupid. I just want some silence to be there. Alex, both Alex Trebek and Pat Sajak. Legends. Are 25 year hosts of the show. When it came on and I seen it, it was that host. And when I grew up, it was that host. Richard Dawson was there for two years, two and a half years.

Speaker 12:
[152:20] Why you always exaggerate?

Speaker 3:
[152:21] He was there longer than you guys.

Speaker 9:
[152:24] They don't matter. The 80s was lit, The 80s was way litter than that 70s Richard Dawson shit you talk about.

Speaker 1:
[152:32] Don't never say that to me again, Richard Dawson.

Speaker 9:
[152:34] Anyway, what else? What do we have about Bob Barker? What do y'all thoughts about Bob Barker?

Speaker 7:
[152:39] That's it. Bob Barker.

Speaker 6:
[152:40] I'm not watching Happy Gilmore anymore. Because he was greater than Gilmore.

Speaker 7:
[152:44] And he won in that fight, didn't he? Yeah, he did. Yeah, that's fucked up.

Speaker 3:
[152:48] Bob Barker running from the Blacks.

Speaker 7:
[152:50] Richard Dawson.

Speaker 1:
[152:51] I thought that was the dad on Dawson's Creek or some shit.

Speaker 9:
[152:55] I had no idea what you...

Speaker 1:
[152:57] What do you think this was talking about? I'm sorry. I'm part of my ignorance audience. I'm sorry, you guys. And rest in peace to Richard. Ray and Richard. Ray and Richard. Rest in peace to everybody we lost.

Speaker 6:
[153:08] Except for Bob Barker, him.

Speaker 1:
[153:10] Oh wait, Richard Dawson was when the graphics was bad on Family Feud.

Speaker 9:
[153:15] The 70s graphics.

Speaker 1:
[153:17] No, when they used to flip the thing around, it would be some bullshit.

Speaker 4:
[153:21] Yeah, I think I know who Richard Dawson is.

Speaker 3:
[153:23] This dumb said it would be Henry.

Speaker 7:
[153:25] They didn't have no fucking graphics.

Speaker 1:
[153:27] No, the bar though, there was graphics on it.

Speaker 7:
[153:29] There wasn't no graphics in the 70s, bro.

Speaker 1:
[153:32] Survey says, Richard Dawson, Dick Dawson. What else is important to you guys or unimportant?

Speaker 5:
[153:39] Unimportant to me, but interesting. I stumbled into this, the Kandi Burruss Divorce Settlement. I was...

Speaker 1:
[153:49] This is one of the Mark Thomas... Kandi from his big day. Let him cook.

Speaker 5:
[153:52] No, no, I just thought it was interesting and wondered what you thought. I don't watch reality shows, but I kind of got sucked into it.

Speaker 1:
[153:57] You literally hosted the reunion of mad reality shows. You watched them. And you were well-researched.

Speaker 5:
[154:04] Yeah, I'm a professional.

Speaker 2:
[154:05] He's a professional.

Speaker 5:
[154:06] I don't know what you call a professional.

Speaker 1:
[154:07] Don't say that P word up here.

Speaker 7:
[154:08] Oh, yeah. It strikes a nerve here.

Speaker 5:
[154:11] But Kandi Burruss and her husband, Todd, got divorced. It's a very public divorce. And here's the settlement. Todd will get $426,000 in lump sum, six cars, Mercedes G-Wagon, Porsche 911, Range Rover, Ford Bronco, Lincoln, Ford Transit van.

Speaker 2:
[154:30] God damn.

Speaker 5:
[154:31] No child support, no spousal support. Kandi keeps five cars, Bentley SUV, Escalade, Ford F-250, Porsche Cayenne, and 63 Camaro. He won. Kandi also takes the Atlanta Hawks season tickets.

Speaker 6:
[154:44] Damn, not the tickets.

Speaker 5:
[154:46] And primary control of the kids' passports.

Speaker 1:
[154:49] Oh, you're just being a jerk. You get the Hawks tickets?

Speaker 5:
[154:54] And the couple will share joint legal custody of Ace and Blaze, the kids, Steph, to sell their food truck, split credit card reward points, keep real estate details private so we don't know what happened to the houses, and additionally, Todd must move out of Kandi's guest house within 15 days of this parenting deal being signed, and Todd has to pay Kandi $38,000 for the balance of the Hawks tickets, which he did.

Speaker 1:
[155:19] 15 days is very, very low. Like, normally it's a 90 days, 120, 60, anywhere between 60 and 120. Like 15 days, you're trying to be a dick.

Speaker 5:
[155:35] 15 days in the Hawks tickets felt like, yeah, you're trying to be a dick. I don't know who right and wrong because I don't know the business, but that sounds nasty.

Speaker 7:
[155:41] You can sleep in one of the cars.

Speaker 2:
[155:42] Well, if you don't know, it's, you know, when Todd and Kandi met, it was all on, when she was on Atlanta Housewives, Kandi was working and Ty was a part of production team. So Ty had to quit his job for them to be together, for her to stay on the show and shit. Kandi.

Speaker 1:
[156:00] What was his job?

Speaker 5:
[156:01] That's what I can't get to.

Speaker 2:
[156:02] He was on the production team.

Speaker 1:
[156:03] No, before that.

Speaker 2:
[156:05] That's what he does. Like he, I guess he produces shit. I don't know what producer niggas do. He was working on a reality test.

Speaker 5:
[156:10] On the production team could mean a lot of things.

Speaker 7:
[156:11] It could.

Speaker 5:
[156:12] That could be craft services.

Speaker 2:
[156:13] Okay.

Speaker 12:
[156:16] Right.

Speaker 1:
[156:18] If she got the off tickets, he probably was craft services.

Speaker 2:
[156:20] He quits the job so they can be together. And her mother infamously hated him. So it was like a thing. She was always trying to prove his worth to her mother and all this other shit. So I think the masses pretty much believe like it is what it is, although they work together creating things after the show was on.

Speaker 5:
[156:41] Including restaurants.

Speaker 3:
[156:42] And he ain't no mutt neither.

Speaker 1:
[156:44] Oh, that's what I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 3:
[156:46] He's not a mutt. Todd Tucker, the husband of Kandi Burruss, is a television producer, director. Todd Tucker, the husband of Kandi Burruss, is a television producer, director and production manager known for his work on shows like The Real Housewives of Atlanta and various other films. He's also a... Thinner.

Speaker 1:
[157:07] Okay, I need more.

Speaker 3:
[157:08] Stephen King, shit thinner. He runs House. I'm trying to find some other shit that we wouldn't know.

Speaker 1:
[157:15] He's unemployed.

Speaker 11:
[157:15] Whose house?

Speaker 1:
[157:18] He had a run when Runs House was on. I see what he was moving at a certain time and it sounds like things may have slowed down.

Speaker 3:
[157:24] He's also an entrepreneur who's worked behind the scenes in production for networks such as VH1 and BET.

Speaker 1:
[157:28] Yeah, he's popped. Yeah, he's absolutely popped.

Speaker 5:
[157:33] He ain't need to pop stickers.

Speaker 12:
[157:35] What the is he going to do with them?

Speaker 1:
[157:36] Not a thing.

Speaker 6:
[157:37] That 400 grand is a one time payment?

Speaker 5:
[157:39] Yes, I love him. That's what I'm wondering if he's going to... Now I'm like, what does it mean to leave your other person kind of fucked up in the game?

Speaker 1:
[157:46] Oh, see, before you get there, and again, I'm not married. I have no experience. However, I assume that if two people are married and somebody is enough of a dick in the marriage for a divorce, to be divorced time, when you think the spin back is coming, the divorce, the spin back is coming. So I don't know what he did. I don't know the nature of this divorce, but I'm not... When I start seeing the details of a real ugly divorce now, I'm not on... I don't have a horse in the race until I've learned who wronged, who and what was the wrong, because you can't expect your partner to just fucking hold all that.

Speaker 3:
[158:25] True.

Speaker 2:
[158:25] They haven't dogged each other in the restaurant. It makes me think they outgrew each other.

Speaker 3:
[158:30] Ty got the restaurant.

Speaker 5:
[158:31] Okay. He did get the restaurant?

Speaker 3:
[158:32] Ty got the restaurant.

Speaker 5:
[158:33] Good for him.

Speaker 3:
[158:34] He did not receive child support or a spouse's support, but he retained control of their restaurants. They say that Kandi's network net worth is 30 mil. And his is around four.

Speaker 1:
[158:48] Actually, he's not a bum.

Speaker 5:
[158:49] He's not a bum.

Speaker 4:
[158:49] He's not a bum.

Speaker 5:
[158:52] I wish him the best in everything. I just was like, that's a big imbalance. I'm surprised he didn't get spousal support.

Speaker 1:
[158:57] That's the other part. I'm sorry, Marc. That's scary about marriage. Like once you are married, that's when the earnings matter to y'all. That's when it's considered y'all's money.

Speaker 5:
[159:14] And they made a lot of it together, the restaurants and other things.

Speaker 3:
[159:19] And if he had to quit his job because of the conflict of interest, I just think...

Speaker 1:
[159:24] Seem like you just should have gotten more.

Speaker 3:
[159:26] Yeah, but see, if you a nigger, sometimes...

Speaker 1:
[159:28] Sometimes you don't want it.

Speaker 3:
[159:29] Yeah, sometimes you look like a bitch ass nigger if you taking this chick's money. You like, fuck it, I'll start from scratch. I'm dead ass. It's unfortunate, but a lot of men, they feel uncomfortable taking more or trying to gouge. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yo, give me 400,000 some cars, a house, and some restaurants, I'm cool. I can make do with what I've been making do. I'm a. I could get it from the trenches.

Speaker 1:
[159:53] Could you see yourself taking that position if you were ever in a divorce?

Speaker 3:
[159:57] I would take that position.

Speaker 5:
[159:58] And I would be on the phone with you, like, don't take that position. I would take that position.

Speaker 3:
[160:01] Unless I was like really fucked up, then I would be like, yo, you gotta give me something. Like, when I broke up with my ex, I took nothing. Cause I took my clothes. we built a life together. We had houses, we had furniture, we had, I took my clothes.

Speaker 1:
[160:15] But you didn't go in the relationship with much.

Speaker 3:
[160:17] Who said that? I built all of that. Play yourself, go ahead.

Speaker 11:
[160:22] Play yourself, Fuck is you talking about?

Speaker 3:
[160:27] No, but again, dog, you just leave, as the guy for me, I can't speak for other men, I feel like a bitch ass nigger trying to do that.

Speaker 5:
[160:35] I don't want to fight all of that money.

Speaker 1:
[160:37] We had this talk, and a lot of people are killing Offset for his position or alleged position in the Cardi divorce, where he's like, no, I'm leaving with something. I contributed it, and I want to leave with something. I know I'm a dude, I know I got my own money, but fuck that.

Speaker 5:
[160:51] Look, Ish, you got every right to leave with less than you're entitled to, that's your choice. I just hate the idea that men aren't entitled to leave with the shit that they help build, or women. It's for me, it's whoever, if we build some shit together.

Speaker 7:
[161:05] I agree, I want a piece.

Speaker 5:
[161:07] I want a piece of it, especially if my shit is harder to replicate than yours.

Speaker 2:
[161:11] I feel like it's this year's.

Speaker 5:
[161:12] When this is over, she gon get more shows. She still got scrubs money coming in.

Speaker 3:
[161:17] Think of shit, rope hits.

Speaker 5:
[161:19] That's what I said, scrubs money.

Speaker 3:
[161:20] Yeah, like, yo dog. Shape of you money.

Speaker 2:
[161:22] I feel like she created a lot of that stuff to help him make money, to help him become independent. That's why, to me, it's crazy to be like, oh well, we build it together. She was building it with you so you can make some fucking income, cause you weren't making any.

Speaker 1:
[161:35] Kandi was a game changer. Again, it don't sound like he's ever been a bum, no.

Speaker 3:
[161:38] No, and I don't want to put a bum or a moocher on a jacket. I don't want to do that.

Speaker 6:
[161:44] Kandi flipped the script. I think a lot of things started to happen after that whole situation.

Speaker 1:
[161:49] Which Kandi, I don't know who you're talking about.

Speaker 6:
[161:50] Mary J. Blige.

Speaker 2:
[161:51] Oh yeah.

Speaker 11:
[161:52] He did her dirty.

Speaker 6:
[161:54] Like after that situation happened, I felt like there was more people, more men getting what they wanted out of situations.

Speaker 3:
[161:59] Jennifer Lopez, one of Jennifer Lopez husbands. One of them. The Chris. Is it that they got nine mil? No, they was married.

Speaker 1:
[162:07] Yeah, but he was a bum.

Speaker 2:
[162:08] Is it the comic consistency that Mary J. Blige's husband was like a mooch or no? That's not the thing?

Speaker 5:
[162:13] That's the story. I don't know what they said to each other.

Speaker 2:
[162:15] Like what do the people think?

Speaker 5:
[162:16] Mary has communicated through her interviews and I don't know her and I don't know him. But in her interviews, she has communicated that he took more than he deserved and that his approach was fucked up.

Speaker 3:
[162:26] And he was doing shit. And he was cheating.

Speaker 5:
[162:30] You can't cheat and get my money that you didn't have.

Speaker 3:
[162:31] It's who he was cheating with. Right. But who was it?

Speaker 5:
[162:36] Men don't gossip.

Speaker 2:
[162:37] Oh, please.

Speaker 5:
[162:39] Till we get home.

Speaker 2:
[162:40] The best gossipers.

Speaker 1:
[162:41] I'm about to say, we don't?

Speaker 9:
[162:43] Oh, my god.

Speaker 1:
[162:46] Yo, I know we finished New Music.

Speaker 4:
[162:49] Yep.

Speaker 1:
[162:50] But it was an album that came out like a week ago. I want to say a week ago from one of the OGs, Carrie Hilsen.

Speaker 5:
[162:57] Yes. Shout out to her.

Speaker 1:
[163:00] So I just want to play one of these records. Because I went to it on some, oh, shit, Carrie. I went to see Carrie. Let me see what the album is hitting for. And I think she did a three disc thing. The first disc has, no, no. The first disc got like nine songs, like an album. And then this two maybe has six. And then this three has five. Good joints on there. This is the one I purchased, though. First of all, any of these 80s beats come on, and I'm in. This sound like the Kiss It Better remix beat. This record is called Something About You off Cary Hilsen's new project. We need to talk. Redemption is the name of her new project. As soon as the second verse comes on and the beat changes, I'll cut it off, but I need to hear the beat change. All right, god damn, that beat is on.

Speaker 3:
[165:00] She should have sold that.

Speaker 1:
[165:01] That beat. She should have sold the what, the song?

Speaker 4:
[165:06] Damn, she's cold blooded.

Speaker 11:
[165:08] Man, she should have sold that.

Speaker 3:
[165:09] That's a smash.

Speaker 1:
[165:11] That shit is.

Speaker 3:
[165:11] Jenagate and after Christina Aguilera, Taylor Swift or one of them, that shit would have been out of here.

Speaker 1:
[165:16] That beat is absolutely ridiculous. Shout out to Carrie Hilsen. She puts on a great show, I saw her with Tank. So listen, so my girl finally went home. Make some noise. But that means-

Speaker 2:
[165:29] Nobody clap. I love that.

Speaker 1:
[165:32] No, but you should clap because that means that they got the flights back up and running for people to travel. Her flight was canceled for a long time. So the fact that she was able to get a flight out of Newark Airport and it be peace. It was empty. Yeah, it was empty.

Speaker 3:
[165:49] It was empty.

Speaker 1:
[165:51] Newark was empty, yeah.

Speaker 3:
[165:52] I walked. I got there mad early.

Speaker 5:
[165:54] You flew to DC.

Speaker 3:
[165:55] I flew to DC. I got there mad early, like two hours before.

Speaker 2:
[165:59] The flight to DC right now is insane.

Speaker 1:
[166:00] It's best to do that for time management.

Speaker 3:
[166:02] Yeah, of course. So I flew to DC.

Speaker 2:
[166:05] That was crazy.

Speaker 1:
[166:06] Yo, dawg, you just a mess.

Speaker 3:
[166:07] That's insane.

Speaker 2:
[166:07] The flight to DC right now is crazy.

Speaker 3:
[166:09] You just a messy, dawg.

Speaker 1:
[166:10] No, that's rigged.

Speaker 3:
[166:11] Why? It's a 40-minute flight.

Speaker 2:
[166:12] Because there's so much shit going on.

Speaker 3:
[166:13] It's a 40-minute flight, fam.

Speaker 2:
[166:15] It's a 10-hour drive.

Speaker 1:
[166:17] When you need to get in and get out, though, a flight is the best way. When you got something you got to come back home and do, you got to fly.

Speaker 3:
[166:24] Yo, dawg, anyway.

Speaker 1:
[166:25] But yes, the airport was empty. Newark was empty.

Speaker 3:
[166:27] So they had started, actually, they said JFK was so fucked up, they started sending the people to Newark for flights because JFK was just that up. I was literally through TSA pre-check in five, I mean, through TSA in five minutes.

Speaker 1:
[166:42] But as for the rest of you airports out there, DHS has come to terms, they've made a deal with TSA, the details of which I have no idea. I have no idea, but they have struck a deal. So they say they do expect the workers to be back to work next week, make some noise, they will be getting paid. We don't know how much they're getting paid, but they'll be getting paid.

Speaker 2:
[167:07] Did y'all hear about Tyler Perry?

Speaker 1:
[167:08] What, the Tyler Perry shit?

Speaker 2:
[167:10] Tyler Perry went to the airport in Atlanta with cash.

Speaker 1:
[167:14] Walking backwards again? No, I'm saying Tyler Perry walking backwards.

Speaker 3:
[167:19] No, he started giving TSA people in the airport money.

Speaker 2:
[167:22] Yeah, he came to the airport in Atlanta with cash, trying to give it out.

Speaker 5:
[167:28] A lot of people do that. He's soliciting again.

Speaker 11:
[167:32] Oh, God damn it.

Speaker 7:
[167:34] You gotta get his 21, too, man.

Speaker 2:
[167:36] It was a nice gesture.

Speaker 5:
[167:38] A fire gesture.

Speaker 2:
[167:38] He was trying to give them to the TSA workers, because they talk about they not being able to eat, get gas and shit like that. They try to give out cash and they shut it down. They said because it's strict rules behind what you can and can't take with TSA, because you know, their security, you know what I mean? So they shut it down. They wasn't able to give out money to anybody. I just thought that was funny.

Speaker 5:
[167:56] I think it's amazing.

Speaker 2:
[167:57] Now we have to follow the rules. Like, it's like, what the fuck? I couldn't imagine being at work going through that and this come with a bag of money. They like, no, you got to leave and me actually stay.

Speaker 5:
[168:05] You would quit that day.

Speaker 2:
[168:07] What? I'm leaving with this. Can I work over there?

Speaker 1:
[168:09] And giving them the ass too.

Speaker 2:
[168:10] Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:
[168:13] You letting them. And you letting them hit the Madea outfit.

Speaker 2:
[168:16] We could get married. It took a while for it to be. You let them with the Madea outfit.

Speaker 1:
[168:24] This is what I'm saying. We're really happy that the TSA people are going to get paid. But what I'm noticing across social media happening, and I want to ask you brothers about it, and sister, I see a lot of boyfriends on their timeline expressing that their significant others are trapped in either Miami or Houston. All flights are canceled, and their girlfriends have been trapped and stuck for weeks at a time. And the niggas are on their timeline having like full on meltdowns about it. And that made me wonder. Don't get them. Because the same way that girlfriends are stuck out of town, boyfriends are stuck out of town. The flights are a mess. However, I ain't seen one girlfriend say, Oh, man, my man is stuck in Houston.

Speaker 2:
[169:19] He can't get back.

Speaker 1:
[169:20] It's only the dudes.

Speaker 7:
[169:21] Wait till she got to open a window or something like that.

Speaker 1:
[169:24] Which made me wonder, are the women just holding it down more?

Speaker 5:
[169:31] Ish, your thoughts?

Speaker 3:
[169:33] I have no thoughts on the matter.

Speaker 1:
[169:37] Women might be holding it down more when it comes to that.

Speaker 11:
[169:40] What do you mean holding it down more?

Speaker 3:
[169:42] As far as it's like...

Speaker 11:
[169:43] Keeping it peaked. I don't understand what you're saying.

Speaker 1:
[169:45] Yeah.

Speaker 11:
[169:46] So why you don't think the is being sarcastic on the timeline? You think is really affected that their girls are stuck? They could just be sarcastic.

Speaker 1:
[169:52] I believe them. I believe them. You think that's true?

Speaker 5:
[169:55] You think it's performative?

Speaker 11:
[169:56] Come on, Joe. You know that. is lit. You got your mom. You're talking to like, Let me move you out.

Speaker 4:
[170:04] Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 2:
[170:04] If your bitch is stuck in Miami, you might...

Speaker 11:
[170:06] If my wife is stuck in Trinidad, oh man. I can't wait till she get home. I'm lit, Are you crazy?

Speaker 6:
[170:15] If she's stuck in Houston, she belongs to rap a lot now.

Speaker 3:
[170:17] Flip is wrong. First of all, Flip might be secure in his spot. These out here are insecure as fuck. And if your girl is stuck in some spot that's lit, guess what else is there? Lit niggas with some spankings.

Speaker 1:
[170:33] Ish makes a good point with the security thing, but all for the security thing. Because the security thing is true. Now I forgot what I was saying.

Speaker 3:
[170:42] And she might not have no money.

Speaker 9:
[170:44] Oh, that's what I was saying.

Speaker 1:
[170:45] If everybody is at their littest, if the boyfriend stuck out of town is at his littest and the girlfriend stuck out of town are at their littest, I think the boyfriends know that they lose.

Speaker 3:
[170:56] Yes.

Speaker 1:
[170:56] Bubble guts. Which is why they get to tweeting.

Speaker 12:
[170:58] Straight, dyer.

Speaker 1:
[171:00] Because I ain't saying them dudes ain't doing their numbers.

Speaker 3:
[171:04] It's different.

Speaker 1:
[171:04] Just not like her.

Speaker 3:
[171:05] It's different.

Speaker 2:
[171:07] He's imagining 10 dicks in her mouth.

Speaker 11:
[171:09] Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:
[171:10] Fam, think about this.

Speaker 2:
[171:11] Rich dicks.

Speaker 3:
[171:12] Yo, let me ask you this.

Speaker 2:
[171:12] A bunch of rich dicks.

Speaker 1:
[171:15] That's the thing, rich dicks.

Speaker 3:
[171:16] Look, let's say your girl lives check to check.

Speaker 2:
[171:17] I heard rich dick cum tastes different.

Speaker 4:
[171:19] Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:
[171:21] It's a joke.

Speaker 3:
[171:22] Yo, let's say your girl lives.

Speaker 1:
[171:23] I was about to have a jar.

Speaker 4:
[171:25] I skipped it.

Speaker 3:
[171:26] Let's say your girl lives check to check. How is she paying for the hotel room?

Speaker 6:
[171:29] Good question.

Speaker 1:
[171:31] Wait, why you made her pour?

Speaker 3:
[171:33] No, I'm just giving an example. Most people don't have excess bread like that. Coochie.

Speaker 5:
[171:37] That's been an extra two weeks in hotel.

Speaker 3:
[171:39] You spent an extra two weeks.

Speaker 11:
[171:41] Two weeks. Two days at least.

Speaker 3:
[171:43] Three nights, four nights could be over $1,000.

Speaker 2:
[171:45] I ain't sleeping in the bus stop when I don't got a Coochie.

Speaker 4:
[171:48] If she doesn't have that much money.

Speaker 7:
[171:50] If she doesn't have that much money, she's not staying in the hotel room. It's $300, $400 a night.

Speaker 11:
[171:56] So you think she's staying at somebody's crib?

Speaker 3:
[171:58] Oh, well.

Speaker 1:
[172:00] Wait, is it your opinion that women at the bus stop, is no such thing as good pussy at a bus stop?

Speaker 9:
[172:05] Shit.

Speaker 6:
[172:07] What's bus sucking on that lollipop?

Speaker 4:
[172:08] What bus lying?

Speaker 3:
[172:11] The 21, the 31, the 91, the old man?

Speaker 6:
[172:13] The Q5 was real nice in Queens.

Speaker 1:
[172:16] He had a Q3 back in the day.

Speaker 4:
[172:19] What say you?

Speaker 2:
[172:21] I don't know if girls were good coochies at the bus stop, but I will say when I take out my trash, it echoes in my head. That pussy corny is in my head.

Speaker 1:
[172:32] That's true.

Speaker 2:
[172:33] Bitches with good pussy don't take no trash out.

Speaker 1:
[172:35] They don't take their own garbage out.

Speaker 2:
[172:36] Come on now. I might as well do oil change, Sparks. I'm.

Speaker 7:
[172:40] Yeah, get under there. Get a wrench.

Speaker 3:
[172:42] What's going on, Pharell?

Speaker 2:
[172:43] What's happening? I'm dragging the trash to the corner in tears.

Speaker 11:
[172:47] Get a wrench.

Speaker 7:
[172:48] Get a wrench, man.

Speaker 12:
[172:49] Screw that on up.

Speaker 3:
[172:52] There's some good coochie bitches out here with 5W30.

Speaker 9:
[172:55] I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 11:
[172:57] There's some fire in the train station, too.

Speaker 12:
[173:01] What?

Speaker 2:
[173:01] You would like to think that if you had that heat, you would have a ride.

Speaker 1:
[173:07] How am I going to know?

Speaker 6:
[173:08] A Lyft account?

Speaker 11:
[173:09] The train station in Washington Heights?

Speaker 5:
[173:13] The trains and buses is different.

Speaker 9:
[173:14] Yeah, the trains and buses.

Speaker 11:
[173:15] There's fire in the trains, boy.

Speaker 2:
[173:17] Yes, there's fire in the trains and buses is shitty.

Speaker 1:
[173:19] Buses is shitty. If you saw fire on a train, like you would speak to them on a train? Like you would try to bag them?

Speaker 11:
[173:26] You gotta wait till they get out.

Speaker 3:
[173:27] It depends on which train.

Speaker 2:
[173:28] Walking up the street.

Speaker 12:
[173:29] Don't say shit.

Speaker 11:
[173:31] The Long Island Railroad.

Speaker 2:
[173:33] Yeah.

Speaker 12:
[173:33] The Amtrak? Yeah.

Speaker 11:
[173:35] The four, the three? No. How many of you get out?

Speaker 2:
[173:39] We both on the bus, I wish you would say something to me.

Speaker 11:
[173:41] You crazy.

Speaker 3:
[173:42] That New Jersey Transit got CEOs on the train.

Speaker 5:
[173:45] I say it depends on the train.

Speaker 3:
[173:46] It depends on the train.

Speaker 2:
[173:47] Right.

Speaker 3:
[173:48] be leaving Livingston, taking a train to Midtown.

Speaker 2:
[173:51] Don't talk to me if we're on the subway together, Really? I got a knife in my hand. I'm waiting on one of you.

Speaker 3:
[173:56] Subway different.

Speaker 7:
[173:57] Subway got joints on it.

Speaker 2:
[173:59] Subway hated hot bitches.

Speaker 5:
[174:01] This is some regional shit. The New York subway got everybody on it. Correct. In Philadelphia, if you're on the Broad Street subway, which is also a subway.

Speaker 11:
[174:07] Not so good?

Speaker 5:
[174:08] Not so good. If you're on the bus, it's a wrap.

Speaker 11:
[174:11] Oh, that makes sense. There's no fly joints on it?

Speaker 3:
[174:14] New Yorkers is a different region.

Speaker 5:
[174:15] Middle class people take the train in New York. Middle class people don't really.

Speaker 7:
[174:18] Rich people take the train in New York.

Speaker 5:
[174:20] Rich people take the train.

Speaker 3:
[174:20] And DC.

Speaker 5:
[174:21] Yeah. It's not like that.

Speaker 2:
[174:22] Not like that in Philly, no.

Speaker 1:
[174:24] We get it about Philly. Philly is its own little dirty place. Philly is dirty. Because Zaire walked into it, and that's too much Philly.

Speaker 7:
[174:30] Yeah, it's a lot, sir.

Speaker 2:
[174:32] It's too much North Philly in this month, but y'all got to make it clear. We North Philly, It's a difference.

Speaker 1:
[174:36] Pensacola, hell yeah.

Speaker 2:
[174:37] That's why y'all not safe, because we North Philly, You better keep it clean.

Speaker 1:
[174:41] It's funny, I never fell safer.

Speaker 3:
[174:42] That's why I don't know about one of that. That North with the F, Philly with another F, box.

Speaker 4:
[174:50] Keep that dusty ass.

Speaker 2:
[174:52] That hurt. That hurt.

Speaker 1:
[174:53] You know it ain't no joints out there. They still holding on to Amber Rose.

Speaker 4:
[174:56] Nobody with Amber Rose. Amber from Philly. That was 94.

Speaker 11:
[175:02] She did a nice one from Philly.

Speaker 1:
[175:04] Philly got her. Who Philly got?

Speaker 2:
[175:06] Philly got some bitches.

Speaker 6:
[175:07] Jill Scott.

Speaker 1:
[175:08] Look, Jill Scott is a queen up here.

Speaker 6:
[175:10] So she's out of it.

Speaker 1:
[175:11] She's out of it.

Speaker 2:
[175:12] And guess where Jill's from? North Philly.

Speaker 1:
[175:14] Jill Scott is an exception to all rules.

Speaker 2:
[175:16] And she's from North Philly.

Speaker 1:
[175:17] Look, they still own her Eve. Eve moved to London. Anyway.

Speaker 2:
[175:20] Eve, British shit.

Speaker 7:
[175:21] She got British accent up there.

Speaker 4:
[175:23] Eve in London with some rich white.

Speaker 10:
[175:25] And Eve from North Philly too.

Speaker 5:
[175:26] We love you.

Speaker 2:
[175:26] Eve from North Philly, right? From German town.

Speaker 5:
[175:28] Yeah, she from Germany.

Speaker 1:
[175:30] Let's see what else is important, unimportant.

Speaker 5:
[175:33] Breaking news for the in-cell community.

Speaker 6:
[175:36] The in-cell community is crazy.

Speaker 5:
[175:38] Ayesha Curry, she didn't apologize, but she acknowledged that she was being disrespectful to Steph Curry when she said, allegedly, that he wasn't her type.

Speaker 2:
[175:47] Oh, girl, please.

Speaker 5:
[175:48] This is big. She was on the Obama's Podcast.

Speaker 2:
[175:51] Oh, please.

Speaker 5:
[175:52] And Michelle.

Speaker 7:
[175:53] This is like a whole list of shit that, of tea suckings.

Speaker 4:
[175:56] Who gives a?

Speaker 5:
[175:57] Well, I think it was important because-

Speaker 1:
[175:58] He be cutting me off to say this stupid shit too.

Speaker 7:
[176:00] Oh, Obama's Podcast.

Speaker 5:
[176:02] been dragging-

Speaker 7:
[176:03] I love Bill Bobbler's just as much as-

Speaker 5:
[176:04] Ayesha Curry been getting dragged for a decade for being a terrible, disrespectful wife. I think we could at least shout out the fact that she tried to give some of it back and say, I came off disrespectful to Steph. And Steph laughed and was kind of like, yeah, you that one up. I just thought it was important to acknowledge that.

Speaker 1:
[176:17] Seemed like he had a talk with her about that. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[176:21] So I just wanted to salute her for it.

Speaker 7:
[176:22] Salute. Sure.

Speaker 1:
[176:23] Salute Ayesha Curry.

Speaker 7:
[176:24] Yeah, Bill Bobbler's.

Speaker 1:
[176:25] And next time you do one of them daytime talk shows and one of these buff-necked niggas walk out the back, don't gesture like you're going to take your wedding ring off and nobody will say anything.

Speaker 7:
[176:35] Just like that.

Speaker 11:
[176:36] Because we can't do it like that.

Speaker 1:
[176:37] If my wife do some shit like that, that's another thing about marriage, yo.

Speaker 12:
[176:40] Then your wife would do shit like, girl.

Speaker 5:
[176:43] See, would that really bother you?

Speaker 11:
[176:45] Yes.

Speaker 12:
[176:46] Yes.

Speaker 2:
[176:47] It's crazy.

Speaker 1:
[176:47] Yes.

Speaker 11:
[176:48] Have you lost your fucking mind? Keep getting ready to play with me like that. Because I'm not going to do that to you.

Speaker 12:
[176:53] I'm not going to go out and see a girl's face.

Speaker 1:
[176:55] I would do it. That's a joke, Marc. I'm being performative. I wouldn't do that. But that would truly bother me. Why wouldn't that bother you?

Speaker 5:
[177:05] Because I would make the same joke. To me, it's all about respecting your partner and what y'all into.

Speaker 2:
[177:11] You and your wife have great sense of humor, though.

Speaker 1:
[177:13] Yeah.

Speaker 5:
[177:13] So we joke like that. I would absolutely joke about... I mean, I talk about my wife getting... Y'all turned into abducted by aliens before we was getting hit by a bus. Right? And we would joke about... There's certain jokes we would make. And I think it has to be even on both sides. If y'all don't play like that, don't play like that.

Speaker 2:
[177:28] Plus, you can tell you can't beat your wife.

Speaker 5:
[177:30] That's probably true.

Speaker 1:
[177:32] And we shouldn't hit any woman, Mona. Disclaimer. Because you'd be up here a couple of times.

Speaker 2:
[177:39] I mean, sometimes I ain't even going to crack that one.

Speaker 1:
[177:42] Try to get sponsors.

Speaker 5:
[177:44] I just think people would be too serious about stuff. It was clear to me that Ayesha Curry was just joking because she was hosting a talk show.

Speaker 1:
[177:51] Don't joke about no wedding ring.

Speaker 5:
[177:54] For me, for me, for me. I went to people's relationships, but I didn't bug out about it. And I don't know if he gave a. I don't know. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I don't assume he did because I know I wouldn't trip if my wife was doing that.

Speaker 1:
[178:06] How often, not your wife, but how often would she be able to make that joke? Once a month? Bi-weekly? Like is that just a joke that's happening? Who the do you think I am?

Speaker 2:
[178:17] That depends though. It depends on the relationship in the husband or the spouse. At the end of the day, if y'all play like they're cool, I think what makes the difference is you're doing it on national television. So people see you do it. You know what I mean? So he might not give a fuck, but then after people troll him for a month and say, yeah, your wife won't give a fuck about you, then it might affect y'all.

Speaker 10:
[178:33] And, bitch, me and my man don't argue, don't fuzz, don't cuss at each other, none of that shit. I simply tell him to shut the fuck up and he says, yes, my queen, whatever you say.

Speaker 2:
[178:41] The fuck is that? Me and my man don't argue at all. I simply tell him, shut the fuck up, and he be like, yes, ma'am. This girl and her boyfriend did it and he said happy life, happy wife.

Speaker 7:
[179:01] I don't give a about this boy friend.

Speaker 10:
[179:07] Why you can't deal with the program?

Speaker 5:
[179:09] Let's redo that, redo that, this ain't that.

Speaker 12:
[179:12] Why you can't deal with the program?

Speaker 5:
[179:14] I am here with the program, so redo it.

Speaker 2:
[179:16] He said redo it, he hates her.

Speaker 3:
[179:19] I wrote the program.

Speaker 2:
[179:20] She's getting her ass, but he said redo it.

Speaker 3:
[179:22] I wrote the program.

Speaker 12:
[179:23] Re-do it, Joe.

Speaker 3:
[179:25] Yo, I think the thing with her is...

Speaker 1:
[179:27] Certain jokes ain't all right with me, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3:
[179:29] And she's been on a three-year run, four-year run of saying things.

Speaker 2:
[179:33] Longer than that.

Speaker 7:
[179:34] Six-year run.

Speaker 3:
[179:35] I'm just giving you, saying things that have been questionable in the media. So if this is a one-off, cool. If you're on your dude, play like that, cool. But sometimes you got to read the room and adjust accordingly, and so.

Speaker 7:
[179:46] That's what she did with the Obamas.

Speaker 5:
[179:48] That's what I felt like she did.

Speaker 1:
[179:49] Because let me ask you something, Marc. You say, if you and your partner, you say, but me too, but to that point, you don't see Steph play like that publicly.

Speaker 5:
[179:58] I don't see Steph in those contexts. I also think it's different.

Speaker 1:
[180:01] You've never seen Steph on a barca? You've never seen Steph do an interview?

Speaker 3:
[180:04] You've seen Steph do man?

Speaker 5:
[180:06] I mean, you might be right. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm saying I don't know. I haven't seen him in that context. I've never seen him on the equivalent of a dude.

Speaker 1:
[180:12] That's what I'm asking you. If you and your wife have a certain way that y'all play indoors, is it just understood that that could transfer to the public?

Speaker 5:
[180:21] No, I think indoors and out of doors are totally different. Totally different. There's jokes I would make in the house that I wouldn't make out of the house, but also vice versa. Sometimes you're more performative for the camera if you're hosting a show together, like In This Thing Together, check your Patreon. Or sometimes in the house, y'all might have jokes that go way further than you will allow in public. It just depends on how people see things, you know what I mean? Typically, a celebrity man, basketball player, or football player, or whatever. Man, period. Yeah, has a lot of options, and the assumption is he's fucking everybody. So joking that you're fucking everybody might not be the joke to make. I do think we have to account for power in relationships. I think if people don't joke, people don't expect Ayesha Curry, the Christian so-called good girl from the theater club, to make a joke about a Chippendales dancer. That's what makes it a good joke. To me, Steph said, I'll go fuck Rihanna. That ain't a good joke. He might go fuck Rihanna or whoever. Before Rihanna was with somebody, I just mean hypothetically. That's just my go-to.

Speaker 1:
[181:18] I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 11:
[181:19] That's who you want.

Speaker 5:
[181:21] I made that joke with my wife on the show. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:
[181:23] Come on, we interviewed Ayesha up here.

Speaker 5:
[181:25] Shout out to Ayesha. No disrespect to Ayesha.

Speaker 2:
[181:27] Marc got a thing for Rihanna.

Speaker 1:
[181:30] Men have a thing.

Speaker 7:
[181:31] I think this is the men view, by the way. What?

Speaker 1:
[181:33] This is the men view.

Speaker 12:
[181:34] This is the men view. Right.

Speaker 5:
[181:36] And I make jokes to put it out. I wouldn't make no where else. That's what I'm saying. I think it just depends on the relationship and the situation, but I don't think whatever's private can just go public.

Speaker 3:
[181:44] So let me ask you, right? Let's just say your wife was mad liberal with jokes.

Speaker 5:
[181:48] Yeah. Which she's not.

Speaker 3:
[181:49] No, no, I'm just saying, hypothetically. And then from 2017 to 2025, you've taken this shot and it drew public attention. You've taken this shot, it drew public attention. You take this shot, it drew public attention and scrutiny. At some point, as the husband, even if your wife is cool with it, because it keeps becoming a topic. And now people starting to look at your husband like, yo, he a bitch ass nigga.

Speaker 2:
[182:15] Yeah.

Speaker 3:
[182:16] I think that she should.

Speaker 2:
[182:18] Fall back.

Speaker 3:
[182:19] Simmer down some. Right? Jada Pinkett is out on some new shit. And they going on her because she said the shit about, yo, do y'all live together? And she was like, I mean, at some point in time, we will again.

Speaker 2:
[182:29] Jada don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3:
[182:31] She be lighting this nigga's ass up. So my thing is even at all times, I don't like that. Right?

Speaker 11:
[182:37] Jada don't give a. He don't like that.

Speaker 6:
[182:39] Hell no, man. He don't like that structure thing because it makes the man look real milk toast-like.

Speaker 5:
[182:43] Yeah, yeah, yeah. But some dudes don't care.

Speaker 3:
[182:46] But that's my point, though.

Speaker 5:
[182:48] You got to be pussy because I care.

Speaker 3:
[182:49] But if you care about him, and you care about him, again, even if Will Smith don't give a, but if you care about him, then you should care about the public persona of your dude.

Speaker 11:
[183:00] A lot of these trying to change.

Speaker 5:
[183:01] I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying that, I'll give you a perfect example. After I said that shit about my wife not taking my name, every time I post something, it's like, you bitch ass, you don't want your wife to take your name. And so my wife, when we put clips up sometimes of our podcast, and this thing together on Patreon, sometimes she'll say, I don't want to put that out because it's going to make you look bad. Or I don't want to say this thing because I don't, I care. And I'll be like, no, no, I'm with you. But I'll be like, put it out anyway because I don't care.

Speaker 1:
[183:26] Because they've been calling me a bitch ass.

Speaker 5:
[183:28] Man, since day one. But also, if you're going to take a certain position or have a certain politics or just care about your relationship in a certain way, there's certain things you're going to allow, certain things you're not. And it's up to each individual person. I don't think that makes the person a bitch ass. Don't certainly don't make me one because I'm not. But it's about what works for your relationship.

Speaker 11:
[183:46] I feel like people are changing the structure. I feel like people are just changing the structure, how things work, though, that people's comfortabilities. The structure is changing.

Speaker 3:
[183:54] Would you feel that if the shoe was reversed?

Speaker 1:
[183:56] I have a second question.

Speaker 5:
[183:58] Wait, tell me what you mean. I think I thought I did.

Speaker 3:
[184:00] Because oftentimes, especially who you are, you stand on the side of women's rights. That's for lack of a better term.

Speaker 7:
[184:12] He's a feminist.

Speaker 3:
[184:14] So if the man was a feminist.

Speaker 6:
[184:16] No, no, listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 1:
[184:17] Because that's a clean word for what we want to say.

Speaker 6:
[184:19] It's like Susan B. Anthony or something.

Speaker 4:
[184:20] He is.

Speaker 6:
[184:21] Susan B.

Speaker 5:
[184:21] Anthony fought for women's suffrage. You don't think women should vote?

Speaker 6:
[184:23] Of course.

Speaker 5:
[184:24] So what the are we talking about? Yeah, man. He's a feminist. I think clowning a dude who's been feminist is like clowning a white person who's been anti-racist. I just think it's a crazy position thing.

Speaker 1:
[184:34] Oh, now he's sensitive about it.

Speaker 9:
[184:35] I'm not sensitive, I'm just thinking about it.

Speaker 4:
[184:40] You think women should be feminists?

Speaker 6:
[184:42] No, it's just a label that is more aligned with women. That's all.

Speaker 5:
[184:45] Right, because we live in a society that doesn't support women.

Speaker 3:
[184:47] Words mean things.

Speaker 6:
[184:48] I'm just saying, if you're a feminist, like, that's like a-

Speaker 5:
[184:50] What's a feminist?

Speaker 6:
[184:51] A person that supports women's rights.

Speaker 5:
[184:53] And you're laughing at me for supporting women's rights?

Speaker 1:
[184:54] Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 4:
[184:56] That's crazy.

Speaker 6:
[184:57] It's just a label. We need to re-brand the term for men. That's all. I don't know what it looks like, but maybe it needs a re-brand.

Speaker 5:
[185:03] Why?

Speaker 6:
[185:03] Why not?

Speaker 1:
[185:04] Because it shouldn't be called-

Speaker 5:
[185:05] Because it needs to support women's rights.

Speaker 6:
[185:06] Because it has the word feminine.

Speaker 5:
[185:08] So why?

Speaker 2:
[185:09] Because it's women that you're supporting.

Speaker 6:
[185:10] I know, but it just sounds crazy right now. No, it sounds crazy saying, a man, you're a feminist. Like, no, I'm not a- I support women. I don't know.

Speaker 5:
[185:17] So does it sound crazy for a white person to be pro-black because they're not black?

Speaker 6:
[185:22] All he's saying is false equivalency. All I'm saying is false equivalency. I'm just saying the word feminist sounds crazy when you label it on a man.

Speaker 5:
[185:33] Because we're not women. Exactly.

Speaker 6:
[185:35] We're not women.

Speaker 5:
[185:35] So then why is it okay to be pro-black or a white person if you're not white?

Speaker 6:
[185:38] I'm just saying that we need to find another word for men that support women. Feminism sounds crazy.

Speaker 5:
[185:43] Here's what I'm saying in response. The idea that a man supporting a woman or a man having a label that has woman in it, the idea that that sounds crazy to you is exactly why we need words like feminism. Yeah, Marc. It suggests that anything associated with women shouldn't be attached to men. That's what it means. Marc's right.

Speaker 11:
[185:59] Bob, Marc's right, That changed what he's saying.

Speaker 5:
[186:03] I'm not changing what he's saying. He says it sounds crazy for a man to be associated with the word femme.

Speaker 11:
[186:06] That's what he said.

Speaker 5:
[186:07] Yes, to be supportive of women.

Speaker 11:
[186:08] But that doesn't mean he doesn't support the women.

Speaker 3:
[186:10] I'm not saying that.

Speaker 11:
[186:12] He's making it very clear.

Speaker 2:
[186:13] That's not what he's saying.

Speaker 5:
[186:14] That's not what Marc is saying. What Marc is saying. Let me restate it again.

Speaker 11:
[186:17] You my man, bro.

Speaker 5:
[186:18] Let me restate it. Let me restate what I'm saying. It's different coming from you. Let me restate it.

Speaker 1:
[186:24] Let them fight.

Speaker 5:
[186:26] What B. Don said, if I understand you correctly, that I'm responding to is he supports women. That's not in dispute here. He's saying we need to rebrand the title because it sounds crazy for a man to identify as a feminist because it attaches man to the word fem.

Speaker 1:
[186:40] Why is that just not a cool, fun point?

Speaker 5:
[186:42] The idea that a man is uncomfortable being attached to fem when it's I'm feminist, I'm pro-woman is itself part of the problem in the same way that if a white person said, hey, I'm pro-black and I don't want to be associated with the word black, let's have a different name for it so I don't have to be tied to the word black. You say it's a false equivalent, I'm saying it's not.

Speaker 6:
[187:01] You'll be called an ally.

Speaker 2:
[187:02] It's the same fucking thing.

Speaker 6:
[187:03] What happens? You'll be an ally.

Speaker 5:
[187:04] Yes, feminists are allies.

Speaker 6:
[187:06] But words mean things. So I'm just saying the word feminist.

Speaker 5:
[187:08] You can say words mean things if I'm saying it.

Speaker 6:
[187:10] No, because if you attribute the word femme to me, it sounds feminine. Why are you drollin Marc? No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 5:
[188:06] He's staying in a position I think a lot of people watch and take, so hopefully we got an education out of him.

Speaker 11:
[188:10] And you think, you're right, you're right. You're right now, because I understand what he's saying. I understand what he's saying, and I feel like I understand what Marc is saying as well. Marc slips that in a lot, and makes it seem like if you stand on the opposite side, if you want to be manly, you look that it's wrong.

Speaker 1:
[188:28] Marc ain't with none of the men.

Speaker 5:
[188:28] I didn't say that.

Speaker 11:
[188:30] Feminist just means being a supporter. I didn't say anything about man's shit.

Speaker 5:
[188:34] I didn't say nothing about that. I want to be a supporter of women. That's all I'm saying. That's what feminist means.

Speaker 11:
[188:37] You're right, my.

Speaker 1:
[188:38] You're my dork. Hope dealer.

Speaker 8:
[188:41] Marc is right.

Speaker 1:
[188:42] Hope dealer's not even over there.

Speaker 9:
[188:43] You're not going to disagree.

Speaker 8:
[188:44] It's fine.

Speaker 1:
[188:44] Give him some hope, man.

Speaker 11:
[188:45] And you talk through that shit, Marc.

Speaker 9:
[188:47] You're passionate. When Marc get passed, he talk to the whole Norrie. He said, shout out to Norrie.

Speaker 11:
[188:51] But listen, he shout out Norrie and then it was Verzuz.

Speaker 9:
[188:54] He's trying to deal, beat out some hope. He was not playing. Look at Marc, he don't play when it comes to that.

Speaker 4:
[189:00] No, bro.

Speaker 11:
[189:00] He don't play.

Speaker 5:
[189:01] People's rights?

Speaker 11:
[189:01] Yeah, no.

Speaker 4:
[189:02] See, look, he's sitting.

Speaker 9:
[189:03] Marc, we're not questioning people's rights, you're right.

Speaker 7:
[189:05] I'm with you, Marc, I'm a feminist.

Speaker 11:
[189:06] Parks, shut your ass up, man.

Speaker 4:
[189:07] Parks is a feminist.

Speaker 9:
[189:09] God damn it. Parks and Marc, like, we got you, we got you.

Speaker 1:
[189:15] Well, is there to be so divisive?

Speaker 11:
[189:17] Of course.

Speaker 7:
[189:18] He's a feminist, too.

Speaker 5:
[189:19] He's like that.

Speaker 11:
[189:20] Bro, you crazy. You trying to switch up the line that they said about you at the beginning of the shit, right?

Speaker 7:
[189:25] Yeah, I get it Feminist just means to have equal rights.

Speaker 5:
[189:29] Equal rights, yeah. I don't get why this is so crazy.

Speaker 7:
[189:30] It's not that crazy, but anyway.

Speaker 1:
[189:31] Well, you all made it crazy. Orbeetah was saying it could use another word, too.

Speaker 2:
[189:35] You know what's funny?

Speaker 5:
[189:36] That's not all he said, but I got you.

Speaker 1:
[189:38] That's all I heard from him.

Speaker 5:
[189:40] It's because Norrie was playing.

Speaker 1:
[189:46] Don't worry, I got a trick for you all. It's a good song. All right, shot o'clock.

Speaker 7:
[190:01] Yep, it's time.

Speaker 1:
[190:02] I'm joking.

Speaker 4:
[190:03] I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking.

Speaker 1:
[190:04] All right, Paradise Time. Sorry, I gave y'all a week. It's Paradise Time. It's Paradise Time. We'll give y'all a week, episode 7, season 2. There's only one episode left. Yeah. Next episode is the season finale. Yeah, y'all can take that Philly shit in the other room, man. Get the out of here.

Speaker 7:
[190:21] Spoiler alerts.

Speaker 1:
[190:22] Spoiler alerts are happening. Spoiler alerts are happening.

Speaker 9:
[190:28] Okay.

Speaker 7:
[190:29] Hey, we can hear y'all.

Speaker 1:
[190:30] I can hear y'all, yo. Yo, feminists. I can hear y'all.

Speaker 7:
[190:36] In the kitchen, right?

Speaker 1:
[190:37] Okay. I have many, many, many, many, many, many, many thoughts on this. Again, spoiler alerts incoming. I can steal it, Mona, your voice. Xavier should have killed Greg.

Speaker 7:
[190:55] Oh, for sure. I was like, what?

Speaker 1:
[190:56] Who's Greg?

Speaker 3:
[190:57] The post officer.

Speaker 7:
[190:57] Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[190:59] Xavier should have killed Greg. Or Craig. I might be fucking his name.

Speaker 3:
[191:02] I wouldn't give a if his name was Chris D's fertilizer.

Speaker 1:
[191:05] He should have been dead a million times, a million times over.

Speaker 7:
[191:07] I don't understand why they spared him. Like, you blew me up. No, you're done.

Speaker 1:
[191:10] He should have been so dead that even when the wife was hugging him and he had the scope on him, I thought he was still going to try to get a shot off.

Speaker 7:
[191:18] Now, you can't get no more of your wifey hair.

Speaker 3:
[191:20] No, what I thought, I thought he was going to stab the wife. I did too. I thought he was going to stab the wife. I thought, because Paradise-

Speaker 1:
[191:26] And that would have been good for him. And that would have been good for Sterling K. Brown.

Speaker 3:
[191:29] Paradise has taken some turns that were mad on-

Speaker 1:
[191:32] Yeah, Brandon. Everything but Xavier.

Speaker 3:
[191:34] Yeah, Xavier. Paradise has taken some unexpected turns. I think that's why we like it, because it's not predictable. I thought he was going to stab the wife, and I was going to be like, you stupid bitch, good for you.

Speaker 1:
[191:43] That would have been good for the wife.

Speaker 3:
[191:45] For- No.

Speaker 1:
[191:46] That would have been good for the wife and the husband. Both. Grand opening, grand closing.

Speaker 7:
[191:50] I don't understand why she did the shit inside the building. We could do this outside. We ain't doing nothing.

Speaker 3:
[191:55] How do she know she owned that nigga?

Speaker 7:
[191:57] That's true.

Speaker 3:
[191:57] You bitch ass.

Speaker 1:
[191:58] Y'all own it. Also, I don't believe Jane to be dead.

Speaker 3:
[192:04] I thought about that. I thought they would have her eyes open up.

Speaker 1:
[192:08] She too tough.

Speaker 3:
[192:09] Yeah, she is.

Speaker 1:
[192:10] She too tough for the therapist girl.

Speaker 6:
[192:12] This blow shower trick.

Speaker 1:
[192:13] To go in there. Yeah, the old shower. I'm out the shower and still running. That's not going to work on Jane.

Speaker 3:
[192:18] I thought that too. I thought that until the end when they just showed her and it went off like that, I'm like, poke that bitch again.

Speaker 7:
[192:25] That's a very unceremoniously way for her to go. You know what I mean? Exactly.

Speaker 1:
[192:30] She's too important of a character in this show for that to be the way.

Speaker 3:
[192:34] They can't, but they can't, it would be real hard for them to have Xavier coming back to the compound and Jane still be alive. Because remember that the lie was that Xavier killed the people and they all agreed on that lie. So now if Xavier comes back, Jane's still alive. The whole entire community is in an uproar now because we don't know who to believe. We gotta get her out of here. So it's fitting.

Speaker 7:
[192:58] That's valid.

Speaker 3:
[192:59] It's fitting.

Speaker 1:
[192:59] Okay. Also.

Speaker 7:
[193:01] Do we think the son is the son?

Speaker 5:
[193:03] Let's get down to brass tacks.

Speaker 1:
[193:04] Dylan, right? Yeah. He's the son. He's the son. Yo.

Speaker 3:
[193:09] He said this shit about when they were together. He said something about, fuck.

Speaker 7:
[193:16] They had the nosebleed. That was the tying, the tie.

Speaker 3:
[193:19] He said some shit about dinosaurs and some shit that was like one of the little cues for when he was young. Like that was a telltale. That was one of the telltales, but...

Speaker 1:
[193:29] He's the son and Alex, I believe, to be the system.

Speaker 7:
[193:34] I think so, too.

Speaker 3:
[193:34] I think Alex is AI.

Speaker 7:
[193:35] I think it's a thing.

Speaker 3:
[193:36] I think it's AI.

Speaker 1:
[193:37] Yeah, so we all agree there. Damn, what was I about to say that I just forgot about? What did you say before, just now?

Speaker 7:
[193:44] The nosebleed.

Speaker 1:
[193:46] The nosebleed, because it's not just Sinatra and Xavier getting nosebleeds.

Speaker 7:
[193:53] Right.

Speaker 3:
[193:55] No. The son got a nosebleed as he walked out the door.

Speaker 1:
[193:58] Man, people are getting nosebleeds. So what is the nosebleed? That's the only thing that I'm totally stumped about.

Speaker 7:
[194:03] Probably fucking some nuclear, they probably all about to die of some nuclear fallout shit. You can't go to Chernobyl still because the fucking radiation is still there. You can't be around that kind of radiation.

Speaker 3:
[194:16] But were the people in the...

Speaker 1:
[194:19] So why is Dylan's nosebleed?

Speaker 3:
[194:20] No, he's outside, but the other people aren't. So that's why I would agree with you, but Xavier and Shorty not.

Speaker 4:
[194:26] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[194:27] Okay.

Speaker 3:
[194:28] You get what I'm saying? So I don't see the whole community's nosebleed.

Speaker 7:
[194:31] Maybe the thing is they weren't safe down there, no way.

Speaker 3:
[194:33] But then the rest of the community would be still having those symptoms.

Speaker 7:
[194:37] Right.

Speaker 3:
[194:38] You get what I'm saying? Like it wouldn't just be exclusive to Xavier and Sinatra.

Speaker 7:
[194:42] I think it could be like the overarching theme is if it gets this bad where nuclear war happens, it don't matter if you're underground, above ground, outside, inside, in the fucking Elvis theater shit, you're fucking, it's over for you.

Speaker 1:
[194:55] Also, and I say this in closing so we can all enjoy the season finale next week together like a family. Totally awesome that Xavier was accepting of the wife's white baby.

Speaker 7:
[195:15] He thinks it's going to go the other way.

Speaker 1:
[195:17] He handled that with class and grace.

Speaker 7:
[195:20] Because I got my own.

Speaker 1:
[195:20] And announced, hey, we got a lot to talk about. We have a lot to catch up on, we got a lot to talk about, we have a stop to make, I have a white baby myself. That was really honorable and really noble. And would have continued to be noble. So I was sitting there waiting for him to tell her that he fucked the therapist.

Speaker 3:
[195:44] Why would he do that?

Speaker 1:
[195:45] Why would he not? We taking a long walk, we got a lot to catch up on.

Speaker 3:
[195:49] We'll catch up on that when we get to Paradise.

Speaker 7:
[195:53] Oh yeah, her?

Speaker 1:
[195:54] You don't think?

Speaker 3:
[195:55] Yeah, I ain't telling you about that bad ass, fine ass.

Speaker 7:
[195:58] She got it too.

Speaker 1:
[195:59] You got to tell her.

Speaker 3:
[196:00] He got to tell her.

Speaker 1:
[196:00] You got to tell her.

Speaker 3:
[196:01] No, he has to tell her when I see her. When she comes and says, save you, you're alive.

Speaker 7:
[196:06] She might be dead by the time you get back.

Speaker 9:
[196:08] I'm not risking it.

Speaker 1:
[196:09] Wow, Parks.

Speaker 3:
[196:09] Are you crazy, Joe?

Speaker 1:
[196:11] Wow, Parks.

Speaker 9:
[196:11] Hey, man.

Speaker 1:
[196:13] So if the therapist dies, you don't have to tell her.

Speaker 7:
[196:15] Not a soul.

Speaker 3:
[196:15] Mom's the word.

Speaker 7:
[196:17] It's between me and her.

Speaker 3:
[196:18] What? I don't even know no therapist. You know how I feel about therapy, baby. All right. You crazy, dude.

Speaker 1:
[196:24] Well, there you have it. Again, Paradise Season Finale, Monday. I don't love this season.

Speaker 3:
[196:35] You know what? I'm on offense.

Speaker 5:
[196:36] Is it better than you thought before? Because when you started-

Speaker 1:
[196:38] No, I have no.

Speaker 5:
[196:39] You feel the same?

Speaker 1:
[196:40] No. Episode 7 was great. This is what I noticed about me. I enjoy when they get back to any storyline from last year. So Sinatra, Jane, the other white boy killer bodyguard, any of last season, the son is trying to escape, the security, the president's security that's helped anything from last season, I'm cool.

Speaker 5:
[197:02] Got you.

Speaker 1:
[197:03] All that finding each other shit. I just wasn't with the new season story shit.

Speaker 3:
[197:06] Where they lose me is-

Speaker 7:
[197:07] They just dragged it, my opinion.

Speaker 1:
[197:08] Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3:
[197:09] They lose me when shit start to be unrealistic. And so you have Jane, she cuts the president's throat.

Speaker 7:
[197:17] Cool.

Speaker 3:
[197:18] Mercyless.

Speaker 1:
[197:19] She done killed a few and don't nobody know it.

Speaker 7:
[197:20] No.

Speaker 1:
[197:20] Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 3:
[197:21] No, but look, but then you just choke out the black lady. She could have killed the black lady and say, yo, I caught her in the act, da da da da da, and got away with it. You don't leave the black lady to survive to tell her story. That's not how killers work.

Speaker 5:
[197:37] You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 3:
[197:37] She came up behind her, she choked her out and then they locked her up. It's like, no, kill that too. So then you got your story and nobody could ever be none the wiser.

Speaker 5:
[197:46] Word. I get that. That makes sense to me. I'm still on Season 1 early. I paused it, but.

Speaker 7:
[197:51] I still enjoy the show. I think they're dragging the second season a little bit.

Speaker 5:
[197:54] I agree. So you don't want a Season 3?

Speaker 7:
[197:56] No, I do.

Speaker 3:
[197:56] I do.

Speaker 7:
[197:56] Because it's supposedly the last season.

Speaker 3:
[197:58] You got to have closure.

Speaker 7:
[197:59] Yeah, you got to have closure.

Speaker 5:
[198:00] Gotcha. I don't know enough. Because when Joe was talking about a couple weeks ago now, he was saying it might have been one of the greatest drop-offs from Season 1 to Season 2.

Speaker 7:
[198:07] No, I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go that far. I'm still entertained. It's not as good as Season 1 by any stretch of the imagination, but it's still good and I'm hopeful that they'll take it somewhere.

Speaker 1:
[198:19] Yeah, it's shit not as good as Giggly.

Speaker 7:
[198:22] Chill, chill, chill. There's been worse fall-offs, for sure.

Speaker 3:
[198:25] Hold up, that's the J-Lo shit?

Speaker 5:
[198:27] It took me a second to figure out what you're talking about.

Speaker 1:
[198:30] That's what I meant.

Speaker 3:
[198:30] No, it's a fall-off. I think that the writers got a little...

Speaker 11:
[198:33] Lazy.

Speaker 7:
[198:34] I think they just tried.

Speaker 11:
[198:35] They tried to...

Speaker 7:
[198:36] They dragged it. They dragged it. It took way too long to get some shit out the way that we don't really give a fuck about.

Speaker 1:
[198:41] I agree with that.

Speaker 7:
[198:43] Sometimes backstory is dope. Sometimes it's... All right, dog, let's get back to the main story.

Speaker 3:
[198:50] DTF.

Speaker 1:
[198:51] DTF is great still.

Speaker 7:
[198:52] Yeah, it's still great.

Speaker 1:
[198:53] All the shows I'm watching are great. DTF, Imperfect Women.

Speaker 7:
[198:56] That one's a little...

Speaker 1:
[198:57] I haven't watched it yet.

Speaker 7:
[198:59] That's some messy shit.

Speaker 1:
[199:00] I know. I don't want to spoil... That's the one I really want to come in here and go crazy about. That's some bird shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'll at least give it a few more weeks, but I'm going to kill...

Speaker 7:
[199:08] Kerry Washington cry faces. Her cry faces...

Speaker 1:
[199:12] Yo, we didn't talk about Drew Skis bounce back skit.

Speaker 7:
[199:16] Oh yeah, that was good.

Speaker 1:
[199:17] I'm calling it bounce back skit because he did get a lot of flack for his last... The Soul Train one. People didn't love the Soul Train one.

Speaker 3:
[199:25] What you think you're going to get for this?

Speaker 6:
[199:26] I don't think he's going to get for this one.

Speaker 1:
[199:27] They were canning it. They were saying it's bad. We just don't love this one.

Speaker 5:
[199:32] We just want to fend it easy like it.

Speaker 1:
[199:33] This one, he's doing the conservative white woman shit. People say that he's emulating...

Speaker 2:
[199:39] Charlie Kirk's wife.

Speaker 1:
[199:40] Charlie Kirk's wife and that other one. And that other girl.

Speaker 7:
[199:43] Yeah, they all kind of fit the same.

Speaker 2:
[199:45] It's all the same thing. Did y'all hear that Charlie Kirk's wife said... I think that was Charlie Kirk's wife said that she was gearing her people geared up to get some costumes made.

Speaker 10:
[199:53] So she going blackface.

Speaker 4:
[199:54] It's time to turn it up.

Speaker 6:
[199:56] Bad idea.

Speaker 7:
[199:57] Bad idea.

Speaker 2:
[199:59] They going to do something.

Speaker 6:
[200:01] Bad idea for her.

Speaker 2:
[200:04] I disagree. Not right now. I think they would love it.

Speaker 6:
[200:06] To be blackface?

Speaker 2:
[200:06] Yeah.

Speaker 6:
[200:07] I think her people would love it.

Speaker 2:
[200:09] Her people would love it. Right now you're not getting canceled for doing nothing like that. Right now you can do shit like that. It's the only time you can do that.

Speaker 1:
[200:15] What did you guys think of the Drewski skit? The new one. This one.

Speaker 2:
[200:18] Hilarious.

Speaker 3:
[200:19] I think it was funny in the beginning. Yeah, it was funny in the beginning. When he first came out, it was hilarious. And then he dragged it a little too, too much. He, like the mid to the end wasn't...

Speaker 7:
[200:30] There wasn't a great payoff at the end, but it was still funny.

Speaker 3:
[200:32] It was funny in the beginning. It was amazing in the beginning. And I think he just dragged it a little too much.

Speaker 5:
[200:36] He got such a high bar, you know, with the mega church and all the other stuff. It's a high bar.

Speaker 1:
[200:40] That mega church shit. That was some of the funniest stuff I've seen in a long time.

Speaker 5:
[200:44] It's classic.

Speaker 1:
[200:44] This one, I agree with y'all. I mean, I laughed when he first came out because he looks like a funny white girl.

Speaker 7:
[200:51] He's a very ugly white girl.

Speaker 1:
[200:52] Like a white girl with a big, big ass pot face. A little white blazer and pants with the black underneath. It was funny. But the more I watched, it was just like, oh, OK. It's just that. So what I think is, and I don't want to lose anybody with this, I just think if you're doing black face or white face, it got to be funny, funny.

Speaker 3:
[201:20] You're right.

Speaker 1:
[201:22] Like most of the white people that have done black face, none of that shit was funny.

Speaker 6:
[201:27] The Tropic Thunder? Tropic Thunder?

Speaker 1:
[201:30] That was funny.

Speaker 2:
[201:30] Oh, that was funny.

Speaker 1:
[201:31] That was funny. But that's Robert Downey Jr. That was funny.

Speaker 7:
[201:34] And that was like also, they're acknowledging that it was fucked up, that he was doing it.

Speaker 2:
[201:39] The joke was a joke.

Speaker 7:
[201:40] It wasn't like trying to. That was a joke, kind of.

Speaker 2:
[201:42] Right. That was a joke.

Speaker 1:
[201:44] White, Dave Chappelle doing.

Speaker 7:
[201:47] That was funny.

Speaker 1:
[201:48] That was hilarious.

Speaker 4:
[201:49] Yeah.

Speaker 7:
[201:50] No, the announcer dude.

Speaker 1:
[201:53] No, I'm talking about Big Z. I'm talking about from the show.

Speaker 4:
[201:55] He wasn't in white face.

Speaker 7:
[201:56] He was black.

Speaker 11:
[201:57] He was black, but he was acting like. He was black, but he was aligning with whites.

Speaker 1:
[202:01] He was a race.

Speaker 7:
[202:02] Yeah, okay. It wasn't white face or black face.

Speaker 1:
[202:04] Wait, he didn't have makeup on his face? No.

Speaker 7:
[202:06] You're talking about the announcer shit.

Speaker 2:
[202:08] Big Z was just an old black man.

Speaker 11:
[202:10] He was blind.

Speaker 2:
[202:11] I'm confused.

Speaker 11:
[202:13] He was blind. I thought he was white.

Speaker 7:
[202:14] When he did the announcer shit, he was a...

Speaker 1:
[202:17] If it was white face, that's just hilarious.

Speaker 10:
[202:20] You remember that shit?

Speaker 2:
[202:22] I don't know if I thought...

Speaker 11:
[202:23] He divorced his wife because she said, she's married a. lover.

Speaker 2:
[202:27] Yeah. He divorced his wife because she was a lover. David Chappelle the goat, though.

Speaker 11:
[202:32] That is crazy, son.

Speaker 2:
[202:35] I think that... I don't know if I thought it was funny for real or I just really enjoyed making fun of Eric and Kurt. You know what I mean? Because even when y'all are talking about I died off, I'm thinking it was funny the whole time. But I guess it was kind of corny at the end. But he's played white girls so many times in his skits, he just never paints his body white. But he's done that a lot.

Speaker 3:
[202:53] Like, he's a white girl.

Speaker 2:
[202:54] Because Bruce Lee gives that he hung on white people growing up. He gives like he's a little suburban white boy. He gives that.

Speaker 3:
[202:58] The had the flats that was leaning.

Speaker 2:
[203:00] Yeah, the ballet shoes.

Speaker 3:
[203:02] That was funny.

Speaker 2:
[203:02] He really looked like a big white bitch.

Speaker 3:
[203:03] That shit was funny.

Speaker 2:
[203:04] He did. Yeah.

Speaker 11:
[203:05] The was not needed at all.

Speaker 2:
[203:07] He wore a vegan pup cup.

Speaker 1:
[203:11] That was funny.

Speaker 6:
[203:12] Everybody gets it when he does his skits. We did the Asian nail tech.

Speaker 2:
[203:16] That was classic.

Speaker 3:
[203:17] Yeah, that was classic.

Speaker 6:
[203:19] But you don't have to do the prosthetics and the makeup. If it's funny, it's funny. It cuts through. But this time, I don't think he hit the mark.

Speaker 11:
[203:26] You think it was just too long. It was just... When it first came out, they did the dance. He would have talked.

Speaker 2:
[203:31] That was funny. I think it was great, especially with the other one being so big. I think this was pretty good to come after.

Speaker 1:
[203:36] This one had over 100 million impressions and views in a matter of hours. So, I mean, I get it. It just seems like a lot of focus on the white conservative shit and his shit lately. Some of it seems like...

Speaker 11:
[203:56] An agenda?

Speaker 1:
[203:58] Not an agenda, because who cares if you attack them? Attack them, but it just seems like... You know that anything said on that side gets attention from the politicians and just a certain level of... So, some of it just seems like we're looking for it rather than, all right, I'm trying to be funny all the way.

Speaker 3:
[204:19] That might be what he on.

Speaker 1:
[204:22] And I'm not mad at that.

Speaker 3:
[204:23] And you say that he got 100 and something million views in a couple of hours. You might not get that without the white eyes.

Speaker 5:
[204:32] The rage. It's rage.

Speaker 3:
[204:33] But you don't get it without the white eyes. So, fuck them. I'm gonna incite them, get my point across.

Speaker 1:
[204:40] So, this is acceptable rage, baby.

Speaker 3:
[204:41] And get paid at the same time. Got it.

Speaker 5:
[204:44] I think so. That's what The Right does all the time. They do shit that they know is gonna offend us. We pass the videos around. And then they fundraise on our outrage.

Speaker 2:
[204:51] Facts. That's all they do. They don't have a lot of shit to pull.

Speaker 5:
[204:54] I remember when George Bush, George W. Bush announced an attack on affirmative action on Martin Luther King's birthday, knowing that we would get mad and knowing that Republican reaction would be, you know, it's an amazing tactic. Speaking of Republicans, just wanna sneak this in real fast.

Speaker 4:
[205:11] What was I about to say?

Speaker 1:
[205:11] We didn't talk about your man, right?

Speaker 5:
[205:12] Donald Trump?

Speaker 4:
[205:13] Yeah, man.

Speaker 5:
[205:14] For the first time in over 100 years, Donald Trump will be signing, there'll be a new signature on all American money that's made. It will be Donald J. Trump.

Speaker 11:
[205:23] Yeah, this.

Speaker 5:
[205:25] Be different, bro. He's on some other shit. There's no need for it.

Speaker 7:
[205:29] So we're doing exactly what we just talked about?

Speaker 6:
[205:32] Trump is a megalomaniac.

Speaker 2:
[205:33] You wanna be the king, that's it.

Speaker 5:
[205:35] But I just want people to be aware of it. I think he did the rage bait for us. I think you're right. Yeah. But I also think in a voting context, hopefully people will pay attention to this kind of stuff. I think it's illegal for presidents to put their own face on the money while they're sitting in office. It's a long-standing rule because it gives the appearance of a monarchy.

Speaker 11:
[205:55] Of king, yeah.

Speaker 5:
[205:56] So this is the closest you can come to doing that. So he's doing the most that's humanly possible right now while doing all these other things, obviously, that's going on right now. I'd love to hear more about the Epstein files from him. I'd love to see an end to the war. I mean, there's a lot of shit that could happen, but this is just, in some ways, it's a distraction. And maybe Parks' point is even more on point than I gave credit for, and I agree with you, which is we'll be talking about him signing this money instead of talking about all these up things.

Speaker 6:
[206:21] I think it's more on narcissism. That's more of Trump's character trait and his secrecy than anything.

Speaker 7:
[206:28] It's exactly this. Look at this, look at this, look at this, look at this. And rage bait, because then there's going to be people who will go, this isn't that big of a deal, who gives a fuck what's on the one that I own, use money, cash, anyway. It's all just propaganda to fucking keep them in talking.

Speaker 6:
[206:43] Some Trump bucks.

Speaker 2:
[206:44] You know what's up with that whole rage bait thing? I am a sucker for that. I watch it live and I know it's supposed to make me mad and then I'm biting my lip. All y'all do that? It's not just me?

Speaker 3:
[206:55] It's fucking right.

Speaker 5:
[206:58] It's tough.

Speaker 2:
[206:59] You fall for rage bait?

Speaker 1:
[207:00] Do I what?

Speaker 2:
[207:01] Fall for rage bait.

Speaker 1:
[207:02] No.

Speaker 2:
[207:03] I engage in everything, comment, message and all that.

Speaker 3:
[207:05] Curse the ass.

Speaker 2:
[207:06] you, How dare you say that?

Speaker 1:
[207:09] I'm not going to see nothing on the internet that's going to make me rage fool.

Speaker 3:
[207:12] I had a little 30 minute argument with a that day.

Speaker 8:
[207:15] Fuck you, bitch ass.

Speaker 3:
[207:19] For what?

Speaker 12:
[207:19] For what?

Speaker 1:
[207:21] You know what I'm saying? I'm not why did you have to argument, but why do you do that with a guy? If you catch me in the right day, it'll be a lot of right days for you.

Speaker 3:
[207:29] No, I know. One or a couple of months. Yo, you a Trump or you MAGA? You bitch ass nigga, you like me?

Speaker 5:
[207:37] Do you do it in your DMs? I never see these arguments. Oh, you go a lot prior. That's smart. That's good though. Because if you do it too public, that encourages more people to do it. You actually handle it better.

Speaker 3:
[207:47] I'm MAGA? Me? Yo, my, you must not watch the show.

Speaker 2:
[207:51] Well, I've called.

Speaker 1:
[207:52] But why you gotta talk to people that don't know you? He don't know you.

Speaker 7:
[207:56] We have occasionally parodied some talking points of the right up here. Accidentally. And that's where I'm sure his argument came from.

Speaker 2:
[208:03] Yeah, and that's where it all comes from.

Speaker 7:
[208:05] It's falling for the rage bait thing again. They're trying to do this and this and it's like, ah, same shit.

Speaker 6:
[208:11] It could be hard to ignore shit sometimes.

Speaker 2:
[208:12] But the idea would be that you're a secret Trumper, right?

Speaker 7:
[208:15] I don't think that you're a Trumper, by the way.

Speaker 5:
[208:16] Just to be clear.

Speaker 3:
[208:17] I despise Donald Trump.

Speaker 5:
[208:19] The background context is somebody voted for Trump. So, yeah.

Speaker 11:
[208:22] No, the background out here is that Marc made up a-

Speaker 1:
[208:25] Yeah, Marc keeps saying that shit.

Speaker 6:
[208:26] Well, they told me.

Speaker 11:
[208:28] I know, you keep saying that to them, Marc.

Speaker 5:
[208:30] No, I swear on your life, man.

Speaker 3:
[208:31] Somebody on this cast told you they voted for Donald Trump, or somebody that frequents the bills-

Speaker 11:
[208:37] Yeah, somebody that was here.

Speaker 1:
[208:39] And if they told you that, why you ain't holding down? Why you keep bringing it up for months and months and months, trying to cite some shit?

Speaker 5:
[208:43] I don't want B.Dot to be left out of the context. That was my answer.

Speaker 11:
[208:46] Somebody that was here, that wasn't-

Speaker 3:
[208:47] B.Dot wasn't here when you first arrived.

Speaker 5:
[208:49] No, it's not about who used to work here.

Speaker 11:
[208:51] Somebody that's currently working here?

Speaker 5:
[208:52] Someone who's still currently employed.

Speaker 2:
[208:54] It was me.

Speaker 6:
[208:55] It's like a who's done it?

Speaker 3:
[208:56] You want it, y'all.

Speaker 5:
[208:57] I'm gonna leave it alone. It's clue.

Speaker 4:
[208:58] It's clue.

Speaker 1:
[208:59] There's no essay, man. It was just who done it.

Speaker 4:
[209:02] Got it. Who's done it?

Speaker 7:
[209:04] Who has done it?

Speaker 5:
[209:06] When Joe was correcting your shit, dog.

Speaker 1:
[209:08] See why you're not feminist.

Speaker 9:
[209:12] You can't come in our feminist clothes.

Speaker 4:
[209:19] I don't have nothing fancy. I don't have nothing.

Speaker 1:
[209:22] It's over.

Speaker 7:
[209:23] It's been a great show.

Speaker 6:
[209:23] It's over.

Speaker 9:
[209:25] Make some noise for yourselves.

Speaker 4:
[209:26] Make some noise for yourselves.

Speaker 9:
[209:28] Make some noise for yourselves.

Speaker 2:
[209:30] You guys did a great job.

Speaker 6:
[209:30] We just got here.

Speaker 9:
[209:32] Oh, boy.

Speaker 2:
[209:32] Thank you for your services.

Speaker 1:
[209:35] you get to go home. These are punching the clock, boy. These can't leave. We ain't leave here until 9 to 9 o'clock. Long Friday. No guesting. Oh, that's my favorite one. It's just my staff. Yeah, we about to kill this shit, y'all. Look at Mona.

Speaker 4:
[209:51] Look at Mona.

Speaker 2:
[209:53] I'm excited.

Speaker 4:
[209:54] Oh, man.

Speaker 1:
[209:58] Whatever.

Speaker 6:
[210:00] Hey, Rest In Peace Prodigy.

Speaker 7:
[210:02] One of the best things to come out of Scarface. Yeah, for sure. The soundtrack, I always said it was amazing.

Speaker 4:
[210:08] Yo, shut up, yo. We're taking it light. Hey!

Speaker 12:
[210:29] You know how it feels.

Speaker 1:
[210:32] Yo, hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Till next time, we bid you adieu. Farewell, adios, ariva derci, hasta la vista, arvore, so long, goodbye.

Speaker 9:
[210:48] Or simple head novels, suffice.

Speaker 1:
[210:50] Shout out to our brother, Freeze, he enabled us in spirit. Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass, hey.

Speaker 12:
[210:58] So let's make this one last, as if it's all we have.

Speaker 1:
[211:12] Lastly, the baddies are insecure.

Speaker 12:
[211:25] Oh, come on!

Speaker 4:
[211:27] Come on!

Speaker 12:
[211:29] I got my Silk Shirt ready!

Speaker 1:
[211:33] All right, I'm sorry, P. We gotta shout out Paul McCartney, who's getting ready to drop his 18th studio album.

Speaker 7:
[212:13] He's been getting a lot of press lately, man. I went back and listened to the discography.

Speaker 3:
[212:16] Man, I don't know.

Speaker 7:
[212:17] Paul's discography is a big bool. Whichever band on the road, that album's crazy.

Speaker 6:
[212:22] Think Turtleneck's going to be on there? Turtleneck?

Speaker 1:
[212:25] Nah, nah. Not at all, not at all. Again, shout out to Tyrese, Turtleneck, Gibson.

Speaker 3:
[212:32] Shout out to Tank.

Speaker 1:
[212:34] What y'all got going on this week?

Speaker 9:
[212:35] Anything, anything, anything, anything, anything?

Speaker 7:
[212:37] I'm gonna see the fans.

Speaker 1:
[212:38] Tomorrow, though?

Speaker 4:
[212:39] You're leaving tomorrow?

Speaker 12:
[212:40] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:
[212:41] All right, just in case some is happening. All right, just gotta make sure.

Speaker 4:
[212:45] Flip, what you up to?

Speaker 11:
[212:46] Outside working.

Speaker 12:
[212:48] Ish?

Speaker 11:
[212:49] Work, man.

Speaker 1:
[212:49] Back to DC., another flight? Did you take care of all the business you was doing up there? Not yet, right?

Speaker 3:
[212:56] Still moving?

Speaker 1:
[212:57] Yeah, still got you to do. No, I understand. Be that what you on this weekend, man.

Speaker 6:
[213:01] Gotta figure it out, man. You're so stupid, yo.

Speaker 1:
[213:03] Marc?

Speaker 5:
[213:04] Busy weekend. Tonight, I'm at an Iftar, and then tomorrow, kids' birthday party's all weekend, actually.

Speaker 9:
[213:15] Hey, big Mona.

Speaker 1:
[213:17] Mona, what you on this weekend?

Speaker 2:
[213:19] Family stuff.

Speaker 3:
[213:21] Like cooking for your family?

Speaker 11:
[213:23] Turn this shit up, What's your favorite?

Speaker 3:
[213:25] Macaroni and cheese.

Speaker 1:
[213:26] Turn this shit up, Is comedian Keef coming over for dinner?

Speaker 11:
[213:28] Like, fries. Yo, Joe, he's still over there to have our contact.

Speaker 4:
[213:35] Yeah, yeah, yeah, he moved down that seat.

Speaker 7:
[213:37] The whole show.

Speaker 1:
[213:38] Shout out to Mona, man, Keith, man.

Speaker 9:
[213:40] Shout out to him.

Speaker 4:
[213:41] Uh-oh.

Speaker 7:
[213:47] Come on, give him a mic. I'll do the mic.

Speaker 10:
[213:49] Come on, come on.

Speaker 4:
[213:50] Make beats, don't move like this.

Speaker 1:
[213:52] I ain't got too much going on this weekend, man. If you see me outside, Say what up the real n***a when you see me.

Speaker 4:
[213:59] And that's it, man.

Speaker 1:
[214:00] Might find a little day party, night party, little brunch or something like that.

Speaker 9:
[214:04] Might see a play.

Speaker 1:
[214:06] I gotta start lying now.

Speaker 6:
[214:07] Making his style, he's on Broadway.

Speaker 1:
[214:09] I gotta start lying now, because I've spoken about escorts too much. So people think I don't like plays and museums.

Speaker 9:
[214:16] Might hit the Bronx Zoo. Wait a minute!

Speaker 1:
[214:25] Yo, y'all have a good weekend, man. Get home to your families. Remember, be kind to yourself and be kind to everyone.